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i must be the unluckiest guy ever because it usually takes 4 for me
mancubi have 600 health
the archie has 700, and the baron has 1000
yeah you're right lol
it should take you 3-4 to get a manc most of the time
it usually takes me 3
but I also have really good luck with killing chaingunners in one shotgun shot
oh yeah me too
and I feel like me and archies are friends because I am really lucky with the arch-vile pain chance
i sometimes find myself oneshotting chaingunners with the regular shottie
I like gambling by standing in their face with an SSG
really hope there isn't a marauder type enemy in TDA
I feel like it happens to me A LOT
you have cover ready most of the time?
You're hacking dude
there's going to be a marauder type enemy that challenges the player, but they hope the player is trained better on how to fight them
it's usually RNG giving you high damage rolls
its not going to be exactly like the marauder, but it will be a "black belt" challenge
when I'm arch-vile gambling, no
i wanna see night sentinels transform into marauders
I hope it is a more consistent one, marauder I swear just does whatever he wants randomly
that's bold
wouldn't be gambling if there was no risk
eh fair enough
Ye especially buffed marauder in bloodswamps, he's on something
He might just run at you and stand there for 4 seconds, maybe spawn a dog for no reason
the swamp shrooms
On that argent goos
I forget what they're called, but the big demon with the sword is the marauder equivilant
it'll require you to parry from what we know
da doom huntah
Agaddon hunterđ¤
thank you
nah that's an Agaddon Hunter
its the marauder equivilant
that's what a doom hunter is
yep
we got a whole article about it
ask Deag Ranak on more lore about them
its not literally a marauder, but it serves the same purpose of a monster meant to test what the player has learned
what does the marauder test?
No he'll yap about the telos realm again
i think it's a miniboss, based on what we've seen in the trailer
I am not arguing with you about this, I am simply explaining the article
dude, I'm explaining the article, this is literally what Hugo said
oh
he directly compared the Agaddon hunter to the marauder
i've finished the trailer, but i don't remember that so carry on
Not trying to argue, I just never knew what the marauder was supposed to test
its an article
if you were ready enough
for the ancient trials
that sucks
Stuff like the faltering system, reaction time, enemy management
Off the top of my head
more parrying
Yeah that makes sense, I run off muscle memory when I see him I just didn't think about that lol
first we're gonna encounter the Agaddon Hunter as a boss, like the Doom Hunter amd marauder, and later in the game we'll encounter him regularly
I think the problem with the marauder is that his mechanics aren't really taught to the player, you're thrown into the deep end, in TDA more monsters will ask you to do things similar to what you will have to do to beat the agaddon hunter and he will be the test of that
marauder is just red light green light
yeah, and no other monster functions at all like that, in TDA countering is a mechanic that will appear throughout the game
i'm not really entertaining the idea of the hunter telling you "CMOM SHOOT ME WHEN IM GREEN"
Hey at the time it released, he shocked the world
Part of it lol
it'll be that you have to parry them to open them up, more than likely
Gladiator?
I cried when I saw the big flash at first
You don't know pain till the kaiser campaign
That rhymed
GREEN SPARKLE
Did you know that kaiser works at id now btw?
marauder appears before the gladiator
I played till Taras Nabad but it crashed due to me not having TAG 1 or 2 before
who's kaiser
the gladiator doesn't teach you how to fight the marauder
thought Kaiser worked at nightdive
you gotta kinda figure that out on your own
yeah, you shouldn't have to
He's a talented modder who made the kaiser campaign for doom eternal, he coded some enemy ai in the dark ages
the game should teach you how to fight the marauder way earlier with different enemies
"WHY IS HE PULLING DOGS OUT OF HIS ASS"
that's a big reason why he was so hated early on
Gladiator was a bad boss
Different kaiser
oh, lmao
hah đˇđ¸
sorry I was thinking of "guy who made Doom 64 EX and like half the maps in Legacy of Rust"
Yeah it's really coincidental
Very talented musician too
gladiator wasn't a bad boss, he was just difficult (i dunno how difficult tho, never fought him)
can't think of his music, what did he work on?
the music for Legacy of Rust was Xaser
My happiness being drained when I see his maces rotate towards me
Oh Im such an idiot
Their names are so similar
My bad
The idea of the boss is pretty easy
Xaser was the lead on LoR, Kaiser did a bunch of maps for it though
Yeah that's it
Xaser made E1M2 which is one of the best official doom maps imo, it rules so hard
yeah, the second phase was considered pretty hard by many players
Kaiser also did all the maps for Doom 64 The Lost Levels
Doom 1's E1M2, or LoR?
Shores of heaven slaps
But my favorite is the skeleton world
Sounds like a modern doom boss theme put into midi
also E2M4 started as a Doom 64 map apparently
Sometimes he won't stagger and missing a green light will cause him to do a combo that is life ruining lol
in Doom 1
LoR E1M2 is one of the best official Doom maps ever is what I was saying
the huge blood dam is so cool, the music is instantly iconic
the pipe puzzle
super memorable map
Ye Idk how he makes those groovy tunes
well the biggest reason why i like the boss is because of the ost
Blood magic and midi
Xaser did a piece for BTSX E3 that's super awesome
its in his map in the demo that released a while back
There's a third one?
we're working on it
well, I doubt I'll ever have a map ready for it, but I'm on the team technically lol
What's the hub area look like
can't divulge deets here
Like the one that's usually empty and stuff
Oh k
Ye goodnight
Speaking of hubs, do we know if there's gonna be a hub in TDA?
it's night at your countries?
No it's the linear structure of 2016
ew.
But expanded in individual levels
With how big the world is, I hoped for a hub area
I'm fine with it, you progress normally
oh yeah it's 9PM in america
Yes but imagine how damn tiring it would be for a game that big
And, if we have collectables where tf are they gonna go
I mean Eternal is pretty linear too, and it has a hub
How, having a hub area just adds more time, it's just like 2016
i'm a big fan of games putting small hub levels in between missions
Probably in some viewer in the menu
ew.
Just speculating
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bruh
While i don't like eternal, I do really like the hub
you don't like eternal?
sad smile
Yes I don't like most of the nudoom games
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I only like doom 3 đ
why do you care then
Because I like the series + lore
Brutha da lore
Hopefully dark ages is more your speed
what does a hub have to do with lore
It has more classic movement according to hugo
Cuz having your favorite game like 22 yrs ago is a long timr
with strafing and such
No dude like preference
sets all sliders to minimum
I prefer slower games, and a hub between them slows it down
I like slow games because I got a processing disorder đ
would you like glory kills?
Autism moment â˘ď¸
doom 3 doesn't have a hub
oh.
Yes but it's slower compared to 2016 and eternal
yeah but, being a horror game, it has a significantly slower pace
guess the sliders will be a huge accessibility update
It's not like I haven't played the other games, I have over 800 hours in eternal, but that's mainly from me redoing a lot of levels and reading
It's why I like eternal's hub, I can just read the codex and not worry about when I exit out, getting murdered by le demons
but i hope minimum sliders won't turn the game into baby's first bullet hell game with blood
or else it'll make TDA really lame
its a slider, so I guess that's up to you
Good thing you can make it not play like that
It's actually really funny because what do you mean I cried during a slayer gate because of several archviles đ
what do i mean?
Just play with the sliders up and it wonât affect you?
Does how other people play affect you?
Alright then itâs completely fine if the sliders being down make it âbabyâs first bullet hellâ
eh, ok
Making doom more accessible is good
I play with my sensitivity slider pretty high
Doom has never been âall about the difficultyâ every doom has had difficulty settings for less skilled players
Exactly, now it's just more flexible
Having a challenging option is good, just as good as having an easier option
I hope TDA difficulty affect enemy placement like classic doom
I donât think it will
Same tbh
i like that idea
It will probably be like modern doom
Fuck you 5 chaingunners or the TDA equivalent
Where ai behavior and damage is affected
Also Nightmare, Ultraviolence and stuff is still a thing. The sliders simply for fine tuning for folks who need it
Yes, also we know the difficulties affect the sliders, theyâre basically presets
Hugo mentioned it in the âdoom the woke agesâ clip
Classic doom be like
HMP: 5 chaingunners
UV: 18 chaingunners
It would be great, and there's no need to make master levels
Yeah but itâs a lot more development time for a modern game
Not to mention mech sections and dragon sections needing to be hanged
The reason this sort of thing was for master levels is that enemy placement in modern games is way more complex with how monsters move around and shit
only the ground enemies need the difficulty number treatment
Because ai is so complex areas need to be changed so that the ai can properly move around it
It isnât like classic doom where you just slap down a Mancubus and as long as thereâs enough room it will be gucci
maybe the enemies won't be clumped up in one spot so they won't stampede each other and accidentslly infight
also, would infighting do anythiny like classic doom and 2016?
This would also mean way more playtesting which is more time
I have no experience with newer idTech tech stack, just idtech 4 and it's editor DoomEDIT (not counting GZ). Would it really be that difficult?
The enemy pathing system is pretty complex
Isn't a lot of the features for idtech supposed to be reused, like it's navmesh (does it still use AAS?) any enemy should be able to use it.
Open the editor and check it out
Make the demons infight but make em refuse to infight certain demons [archviles]
I hope we see the summoners again tho
Yeah but monsters moving between platforms for example is manually placed and certain animations are chosen
Itâs actually super cool
Like intro animations or they literally pick out specific animations for specific clip edges
I thought they made that dynamic in Doom 2016, unless I remember incorrectly
Just got to work
You can pick certain animations
The auto ones arenât always great
Anyway I gotta get off for now, I just think different enemy placement would probably be more effort than itâs worth for every difficulty and level
where do you work
Cya, have a good day
Iâve got a 14 hour drive
Traveling to Florida atm
And my solution to my boredom is going to infernal chasm, hitting video settings and clicking loop video
This will not stop until I get there


PLAYING
Iâve been jamming for four hours based on the gps
Will update in another 4 

they better add big head cheat code to the game
I might shed a tear on the first playthrough
I dont think ill be able to play it man, I was so amazed on my first Eternal playthrough
Ill probably stare a minute at the main menu, God this game is the gift that keeps giving
we should be able to play doom eternal in TDA
through a cheat code
that'd increase the game's file size by 90 GB for no real reason
the reason they could get away with UDoom and Doom 2 in Eternal was because the WADs and even whatever code to actually run them are at most 30 MB
well, actually could be more depending if you lump in whatever it took to get the game showing up on that monitor
so let's just say (to be safe), around 60-80 MB
TBH, it would be cool to play the other doom games MP modes through it, it would bring back people. optional install obviously
well if that's the case then maybe we could just play a pixelated doom eternal, or maybe even doom 2 but with an eternal mod
so they can simultaneously give support to modmakers by making their wads officially used in a licensed doom game
only issue is that they'd need to open source the entirety of the game due to licensing
well, they could also just make a custom easter egg without using modded Doom 2
what easter eggs are you looking forward to in TDA
for me, i wanna see the hanging dead barons again
and a dead spiderdemon
id rather have a alive spider demon to kill
about the fire physics ingame...
i really like the mancubus flamethrower graphics
eternal's fire looked like lava (which i liked too) but TDA improved it
Most real thing ever said in this chat
itâs inside
Canât fall back asleep
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Damn you're really counting the days huh?
Ye
The reason why I show up here so I can remember the days @wooden acorn


The more you wait, the longer the wait
It should have a 2 minute 4 part cheat code with 2 controllers like a damn ddr game
Stupid ass stretched out wolf.
True
Fucking STUPID.
Excuse me if I get a bit political, but I think anti-wokes are the stupidest people in the world.
Literally in the old Doom we can already select the difficulty to our liking, I don't understand why they start crying because you can configure the difficulty to your liking
that's not even anti-woke, that's called ragebait ;)
Even so, I'm fed up with the existence of "anti-woke" people. I hope the developers add a skin that is a trans or LGBTQA+ flag to keep that kind of people away.
Wouldn't that just draw them in to critique the game harder? I'm all for what you mentioned but it'll have an opposite effect
And again I apologize if I have become too political.
but I hate anti-woke people
Well you're right
eh, make a skin like that instead, because those look cool
i use a trans pride slayer skin, because it looks nice xd
Well if it's any consolidation, one of the ex-big dudes from id software, John Romero, is very openly supportive of transfolk
Trve
totally
You know I have feeling that this game will be goty. Am I reaching?
Unless the highly anticipated GTA VI releases before the goty awards
I honestly don't think Gta 6 will be that great. But we will see won't we.
Overhype you think? Just might also become the case with TDA but what do I know
GTA VI being anticipated will bite in the ass more than help it
People will have crazy expectations, then play through it and be left dissapointed
:true:
That is true. Im just saying tho...
genuinely no. 90% of GTA fans are pretty much "casuals". They maybe buy COD every year and then FIFA or madden or NBA 2k if they are feeling fancy. The only way they can screw this up is with a cyberpunk launch. Best recent phenomenon to compare it to: The new carti album. Album is... meh I guess, at least looking at critic scores and definitely not worth the wait, but the fans don't listen to anything else and will praise it because they hear nothing else to compare it to.
Don't you remember when they were like "this game looks so bad" at an ALPHA build? These people are gonna be critical of the game
no lmao those are the very vocal grifters that shit on everything
Right, a huge chunk of the fanbase. The negativity will pierce through the positivity, this shit always happens, negative reviews stand out more than positive ones
Also the fans isn't really relevant, people care about critic reviews more than anything
well internet culture is based on outrage, sadly. Regardless I can't see GTA 6 not being like the best selling media product of all time. If it gets the critical acclaim is another question, but I don't think the expectations are that high since we still havent seen a whole lot of it
Oh it will sell crazy, but only within the first year, if it's not gonna be good it won't have the staying power the others have
depends on the online features I think
my ages have been getting darker lately, DOOMâ˘ď¸ed even
when do preorders end?
When the game comes out
still ainât beating Minecraft (seriously why is the game so popular still)
cause its Minecraft
Minecraft is timeless. The graphics cant age and it has limitless replayability
yeah i dont think the game is gonna be that good
maybe theyll release a trailer for doom the dark ages when the review embargo for all those people that were playing it recently lifts
lost interest in gta long ago so i feel absolutely nothing regarding gta 6
I can't wait to play this, I haven't felt this antsy since Doom 2 came out >>
Same, it feels like waiting for Christmas when you were a child đ
I hate both sides of the coin.
on one hand you have the grifter anti-woke mob that banks on losers and nutjobs, on the other, the idiots that resort to violence the moment they face even the most minor of opposition, left and right wing politics are one in the same.
both clueless mobs that hate eachother more than the big men (and barely any women) in the one percent at the top.
damn I got way politically charged with this one
Yeah anyways đ
I'm convinced Serrat is gonna die lowkey
Like there's no indication
But it wouldn't be too weird for id software to kill off a animal for the shits and giggles
Yeah, it's sad that internet culture has ruined so many movies, shows, and even games.
That's how culture works, it changes opinions
Society will change, so will public opinion
Just wait until GTA 6 comes out and becomes a huge success, and they'll act like it's the second coming of Jesus Christ.
They already are acting like it, and when it releases it probably won't live up to the hype tbh
I don't like first person games like that in general
i'm excited for both GTA6 and Doom TDA đ
I don't even particularly like nudoom [avid doom 3 lover]
Deadass only here for lore and characters
Doom 3 is a banger. I love the vibes but i'm just very particular with space horror.
Isn't GTA TPS
The two most abysmally written things in nudoom 
Or TPP, however that works
HEY, you're rightđ
Fuck probably, I played it for maybe a hour at most and went ew lmao
I played a rip-off where you're a stickman spider
last good one was gta 4
The autism works in strange ways. And for some reason it consistently makes me like abysmal lore, robots and military people đ
I can't wait for metroid prime 4 and doom TDA
Can't wait for Half-Life 3!
Lore? My brain doesnt remember jack about a games lore,despite me playing it a bunch.
Had this happen to me with KH2 (amazing game)
Nudoom lore is kinda weird and shittily written, but hey it has my favourite concept, the divine machine, so it's immediately a 10/10 in my eyes
I've started not really caring too much about doom lore, I kinda see it how I see movies like the alien franchise.
Never truly concrete and set down (despite what arrogant directors will always harp on about), and prone to retcons.
Bias
Watch doom TDA come out,and bad game journalist reviews come out for it. (Its not doom eternal so its bad/J)
I'm exclusively tismed about maykr lore and biology, it's really funny tbh
I don't care about DOOM lore because it's completely warped Doomguy around from a victim to a gladiator, feels like a sharp U-turn to make on a character and that just kind of killed the idea that the lore can be coherent to me
Yeah that was....odd
Yknow that's probably gonna happen đ
Underthemayo ahh reviews lol
Honestly I have a feeling Journalists will like tda more than eternal
Sometimes folk aren't too good at realising that id software likes to not do the same game over and over Activision
Game journalist jokes? In the big 25?
Yea
I don't think it's impossible to expect a sequel game to be similiar to the first, but for id that's like almost never gonna happen
Quake trilogy is connected by the name only
Well at least not with hugo at the helm
I like how they are taking a risk with sequels
They arent afraid to experiment with the gameplay,whilst keeping the core intact.
Not really
Compare Quake and Quake II, Quake II and Quake III, each title is completely different down to its core, aside from them all being shooters
CoD moment. it all feels the same now and it's ass
Activision used to be cool...
Was talking about the Nu doom stuff.
Skylanders was my jam back in the days.
Still have all of em
DOOM 3 was cool, now they publish Call of Duty, such a drop in quality
It's balls.
Real
Doom TDA ost is definitely really good.
I just hope it comes out on spotify or whatever
Ain't they the ones who posted ai slop on one of their stores saying "oh its a new game" or smthn or am I batshit
I want some sort of release of the DOOM 3 ost

Hrrr I'm really excited for it, I do like finishing move, I'd prefer if Andrew Hulshult was somewhere but it okay
Yeah, one being for a new Hexen, which shook the community. Surprised nobody else mentioned it here though with how closely related Heretic/Hexen and DOOM are
They also do AI for CoD loading screens and promo art
ew.
Ye. Finishing move cooked
Ai art? More like slop
I was hoping they'd get Chris Vrenna to do some tracks
Would rather eat the nasty patty
AI should've been limited to just text conversations
In non-commercial sites
ChatGPT can be useful sometimes, though most of the time it is VERY stupid
I feel like I'd be more ok with it if its used as an assistant for stuff like medical use
Was about to say
Instructions:
#1 - Feed the patient plastic
#3 - Amputate
Ai could have good,but as of now,its not good lol.
ChatGPT is very easy to gaslight it's quite funny
Chat gpt if it was a doctor
Character ai is crazy though I gotta be honest that service sucks
Some people take it too far, I mean like, getting actually attached
Yeah I've seen it happen to my friend and its kinda sad
Tbf they get severly attached to characters anyways
To the degree where they get upset if they see ship art of the character with anyone but themselves
They worry me.
I was about to say self-shipping isn't as bad as being attached to a fake person, but I failed to consider the possibility of self-shipping going too far, which I've personally never seen happen but it is a possibility
I am cooked
Howdy cooked
I don't personally selfship, idc if others do, i just get worried when they start treating a shapes bot as a real person
I don't ship entirely, I feel like I should leave that stuff up to the writers, some people ship characters that would just gut eachother if given the chance, crazy
Guilty as charged.
Oh yeah this is the dark ages channel
No but but but Samur n doomguy were diplomatically married they hated it I swear 
Shit ur right
Uh fucking um
The slayer statue has given doomguy a bit of fat on his sides [I think] and I'm happy about that
The statue from 2016 gave him a very ugly DOOM logo
How do you even manage to do this
No, the two Os are fucked up
The spike part is usually down the middle of the letters, not to the sides
fuck.
Hmm I think it just the armor.
It's chainmail, chainmail acts like fabric.
It makes more sense for him to be a tad chunky tbh
Insulation :3
wait they shipped the collectors edition?
Nawh not yet, some folk have it somehow and it's weird
oh
But yeah, chainmail acts like fabric, it's for slashes, not stabs, it's actually a reasonable armour lowkey
The biceps urk me a little
But it's not doomguy without his guns
Its peam
I think its just his muscle tbh. Feel free to correct me wrong.
What muscle đ his inguinal ligament and connected tissue maybe but it's not that smooth nor is it that high
if you jab with a sword it'll likely be easy to see it coming anyway
Yeah, jabbing with a sword is lowkey useless, smaller knives and daggers maybe, but those areas aren't vital
Biceps the best part. Makes him look badass imo.
and even then, chainmail still offered some protection from jabs. albeit very small, but it could probably save your life
Swords are usually more damaging from blunt force trauma, hence why they (and as we can see, doomguy too) would wear leather padding underneath
Doom fans so bored waiting for the dark ages mfs in the discord arguing about doom guys bf% im crying
âDoes doomguy have love handlesâ this debate will surely spark endless controversy
Yes he does, he deserves them at least.
MAKE THAT MAN CHUNKY IM TIRED OF SEEING SHRINKWRAPPED MEN 
Day 59 of 112
Man the recent concept art of TDAâs demons look incredible. Excited to see what that green beast looking thing is.
The Cyberdemon looks sick as Hell too
I wonder why nobody's talking about the skins for the guns nor the slayer
BTW what do we call the slayer now
It was doom guy now doom slayers but now what
The Doom conqueror?
Or the ancient Slayer
They should
But think tho
If they are making him EVEN cooler they should kind of change the name but keep the doom part
To be honest Iâve never been a fan of the Slayer thing
Found it somewhat generic
Well, to be fair technically Doom Guy is generic
Ye
Yeah, I entered the series through the original games
So Iâve somewhat preferred that they were more of a survivor story instead of a chosen one story
Though, sorry for being kinda harsh on ya earlier. Just seen too many people come here and start randomly pinging people for zero reason.
while I also started with classic games, i honestly love direction series is going , sure it's over the top and ridiculous sometimes but it's cool imo
my 3 cents
I think it's cool but also jarring
i sometimes can't help but think "doom slayer" is kinda corny
like it's not really a big thing but his other nicknames are honestly cooler
The Hellwalker, The Unchained Predator, etc.
the doom dude
Hereâs a good one I created, Thou who makes hell shit themselves to oblivion
Crazy how this name is accurate, they completely flipped the script on Doomguy
Yeah, canât wait for doom the slow ages to come out
well it sure is accurate
Demons gave him that name for reasom
I kinda like the evolution from survivor to legendary demon slayer, reminds me of that one evil dead sequel, the one where the guy goes back in time and fights the monsters.
And those who taste the byte of his sword will named him the doom slayer"
the slayer of doom
Better
what is that pfp
Just something is something doesnt mean it cant be beyond
Trump
istg if you support him I will

Guys, can you believe that someone said the imp stalker looks like ai art
damn
I never seen it
I'm pretty sure it's rage bait but if it's not...
Ohh wait
the doom slayer would be a cooler name if like one of davoth's nicknames was "DOOM"
like mf would be literally called "the guy that will kill satan-god"
Well idk
yeeaaah
What?
Game
What about it
Will see how raga baiters will respond
I'm gonna try to ignore them
Hahah
Any criticism that doesn't explain itself is just rage bait
Bruce Campbell is great
Well yea
I will just roast the rage baiters
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I don't mind the evolution like on an opinionated level, but I do find it a sharp U-turn, you're twisting an entire character's purpose around
I mean doomguy does deserve to be all powerful
I dont think ive heard about that
Well hes one way or another
Should let him rest
Not sure what you mean by deserve
Because he defeated all by himself
I wonder what will id do after TDA, like how will they keep doom alive
I mean he's been in hell for thousands of years since doom 64 so I think him being a demi god is more interesting than rinse and repeat
But there is a special quality to lone survivor
Budd needs moral boost
I never said the change is bad or not in place, I just said it's an extreme change
Sure
Well yea
A character whose sole experience was survivor suddenly becomes sort of a killing machine, that is a drastic change
Not one I mind really
Well yea because sentinels are different humans
?
From multiverse
What does that have to do with the character change
Possess higher intellegence
But doomguy is not a sentinel?
Because they did change him sort of
No
That's how it happened, not the period of time it took to happen
I'm just hoping TDA clears up how he came from having trauma and hallucinations to going toe-to-toe with demons on a daily basis
That's why it's unrelated but whatevs
Well yea they taought him abot self control and many more
He had trauma?
I mean we already see a hint of conflict with him being controlled and all of that
It's not really easy to flip someone with trauma to tackle the object of trauma
Yes
He didnt hallucinate
Maybe he's reluctant at first? I think that'd also help him feel like more of a character with a personality
When
the divinity machine me thinks
DOOM 64
He hallucinated the demons to look more twisted than they usually would in DOOM 64
Aah
I thought doom guy was just manic ngl, he has no issue showing brutality to demons
All I hope is that the dark ages justifies eternal's story and makes it age better by focusing on the characters more instead of the world
It would make the khan mayker and valen feel much more impactful as characters
The story is gonna be in the game itself rather than as readables now which I think is a great change
He was
Yea
Agreed, I hope they took critiscism in the story department
I tought the mother demon brought them back more twisted looking
And make change accordingly
They're slightly rotted and under radiation, sure, but that would mean they'd have muscle or bone visible. They're perfectly fine, that leads me to believe he hallucinates them to being in the form they are right now
Pretty sure the DOOM 64 manual also calls to him having hallucinations but I'm not 100% sure on that one
I'd also like some callbacks to DOOM 3
Maledict boss would be great, especially with how dragon-themed the game is
Well its said that hell creates new ones this isnt hallucination
Then agadon hunter is hallucination?
When did I say he's hallucinating the demons entirely? I just said he's hallucinating them to look different
Well yea
Dont think that
He defeated different kinds
This arent the same
It might be a fact
What do you mean by that? Are you saying the ones from DOOM 64 look different because they're a different species?
New generation
i meaaaaan
They're the exact same demons as the ones from the original two games
And fans also said that he defeated all that hes now fightig aliens
I mean he wore the original armor instead of the 64 armor in eternal sooooo
No every invasion is same
Im not sure what they'll say about that lol
The 64 armor is probably just a design tweak, I don't see it as in-lore an entirely different armor
I mean iâm sure the demons do have different breeds
best shown with the imps and imp stalkers
Yea
They also probably showed the classic design because at that time DOOM 64 was officially on only one platform, it doesn't have the same recognition
I never said they don't; I just said these ones specifically aren't a different breed
Well I mean it's a harmless theory that can work, but it depends on the story department yknow
Whether they include it or not is up to them
He might since hes under maykrs control
Anyways Imma play doom 2016 so byee
He wasn't under Maykr control in DOOM 64
In dark
We're discussing 64 right now though
Yeah, seems so
In doom 64 possibly while he was under constant rage
He was under fear
You can definitely win battles while scared
So doomguy hallucinated 64 monsters
That's kinda cool
He hallucinated how they look, they exist in reality
Yeah
Thats interesting and make sense
well, he beat a weakened davoth, not even a god, he did also beat the icon of sin
theres going to be a dlc but after that, idk tbh
maybe they'll add game modes or somethin
They said dark ages isnt last doom
But that doesnt mean that the next game they will work on is doom
Love the games, but I would like to see something new/ different after TDA
tbh he also beat the icon with regular weapons (and the comatose sword)
the comatose sword
it's what it does to titans
that does make sense lore wise since it does put titans on a coma
Pretty sure the titan is also aware that its trapped in said coma
which is horrifying
not stated anywhere iirc
Is there m+k support on ps5?
Iâd like to think of it
adds to the whole âcause as much suffering to the demonsâ thing the slayer has
Previous games donât
So I doubt they would
Am I the only one who doesn't understand the dark Ages hate?
The hate is just uncertainty, I understand their discern but disagree with most of it
The same nonsense happened with doom eternal
We well see it
I can understand it, but the problem is they don't look into it. Like I can see how some people would think the sliders would make the game easier, but they probably haven't watched the Hugo video about him talking about the sliders.
The sliders are both for making the game hard and for making it accessible to folks with disabilities đ
I never understood why folk would hate on it
I know, but I think some people originally thought they were replacing normal difficulty options with sliders, therefore making it unbalanced, etc
The difficulties act as presets that you can modify, right?
Yeah, like if you change from Hurt Me Plenty to Ultra Violence, you'll see the sliders change
and you can modify from there
I'm probably just gonna play Ultra Violence for my first playthrough
Iâm not sure if I should do nightmare or UV on first playthrough
Iâm down for a challenge, I started both 2016 and eternal on UV then did subsequent playthroughs on NM
I think Iâll start on NM and bump it down if itâs too difficult
The bfg better be in this
I like to start on nightmare, it doesn't feel that different from ultra violence
Maybe a big sentinel cannon or something
Nah weâll get the BFG in some form
Itâll be revealed the UAC stole the tech from the sentinels or something, or it will be a piece of tech from the universe the slayer originated from that was confiscated
Since the UAC technically already existed in a different universe
It'd be cool if it wasn't the bfg again
We've gotten it like 6 times, too many bfgs
You canât do doom without the BFG.
They can make it function differently but it has to be there
It is a core part of the seriesâ identity
True
I think it'd be cool if they replaced with the unmaker somehow
I wouldn't be surprised if we see the old world [the one classic doom is in] for the BFG
I just want the bfg to at least be different
the BFG is like the shotgun
important to the franchise
Something like how argent Dnur was in 2016
they can replace the unmaykr with a new power weapon but I really doubt we wonât get the BFG
It can still be the bfg, but maybe different than big ball that shoots lasers
I mean the BFG in the modern games functions as a panic button, it serves a purpose, when you are overwhelmed itâs basically a screen wipe
Brother's knees are bent worse than a pipe cleaner after that đ
I found two rats in my kitchen cabinet eating opened bird feed
Evil beasts
He's me fr
They will turn into birds if they keep eating it
Flying rats
Oh that's really unfortunate đ
Even worse
My bird was killed by a rat 
Tbh I am biased, I never liked eternal or 2016's bfg it is just a thing that kills stuff for you, like you said. I guess I just want it to be weaker, or make more demons be able to withstand a weapon like thst
Why is that funny đ
I think the entire point is for it to be super powerful lol you just have very limited ammo
Those rats were fat and greedy too
Itâs intended as a panic button
As soon as I opened the door they were ass facing me running in the opposite direction
Or I should say walking because they were so slow and fat
I hope they will give us the option of disabling items in the weapon wheel, I pick the bfg by accident sometimes
Making it weaker kinda lessens its impact as a power weapon imo anyway we donât really know how theyâll handle it in TDA yet
How many lightbulbs does it take to screw in a Nazi
I cope with my trauma by joking about i am so sorry.
It ok
No I get what you're saying, I just don't like it in modern doom games, it's more of a personal thing, but I do hope the bfg semi different from the last like 4 since this type of bfg started in Quake II
I wanna see the classic bfg.
DOOM: The Woke Ages
Shut up no one asked
yeah its the title of the upcoming woke doom
Anyone who genuinely uses that term is fucking brain-dead.
k
Those freaking sliders grr
yah
Well tehnically doomguy is other part of dark lord which means its other half of his strength which yea dark lord is weakend
There's no percentage we know of
That's what I told sleepy Joe, ok I told him the doomguy.. was only half, he walked off
I mean this tehnically is true
Well father did some nasty work
DOOM: The Fatty Ages
Finally some good fucking content.
did you know the leaves are woke because they grow on trees?
fr
The woke slayer
Does anyone think there will be a dark ages crucible?
Maybe? Kinda hard to say
thatâd be pretty sick, but I think so
It would be a sin to not have the crucible in the medieval themed melee based Doom game
Whyâs it woke?
I agree, to play TDA it should be a required to beat doom eternal UN we donât need casual gamers theyâre bad for the community!
I play on nightmare, am I vaild chat?
I play hurt me plenty and below, am I valid?
No get out
We only need the best of the best here
Nobody else is allowed
Aight I'll pack my bags.
pathetic
that's something I had thought about ages ago, if it did it'd either be a set piece or a passing remark

I used to do so myself, but after trying Ultra Violence i honestly didn't feel much of a difference between them
like Blood Swamps and Holt are equally ball busting on HMP and UV lmao
unlike say, Sigil for classic Doom where HMP and UV are completely different experience
I think he's doing something called, 'rage baiting'.
and very badly to be quite honest.
@crisp crown try harder.
TFW everyone played doom 93 in 93 because it was casual and accessible to a wide variety of people
TFW DOOM is the perfect casual and hardcore game
Theyâve gone quiet because they have no argument
typical.
Doom has always appealed to both super casual and hardcore fans
Universally appealing ass game
Everyone losing their minds about the difficulty slider when they forget difficulty sliders already existed it was just limited to 4 difficulties
Personally I play classic doom with a podcast on in the background, I love the super casual experience
I think the only people still flipping their shit about sliders are trolls and capital G gamers
And grifters
I want to see the sliders up to 11 on UN
Mainly grifters.
oh imagine like
super fast enemies
I call them silly Billieâs
(Capital G gamers are the type of people who say you didnât beat dark souls because you used summons)
Basically gatekeepers
I beat dark souls 1 no coop (didnât have XBL) but Elden ring was all summons and coop because I am old now and donât have time to grind when I have much less free time
I always play without summons but I donât think that makes me an epic hardcore gamer and anyone who doesnât is cheating
They literally exist as a difficulty option
Gonna buy doom tda just to beat it like that đ
Itâs not hard per se you just need to learn timing. Itâs quite slow compared to an action game like DMC, Bayonetta etc I suck at those
I want to love them but I canât learn I combo past XXY
Yeah but character action games are typically much more forgiving
What even is the genre name ha
The challenge is in trying to get higher ranks
The only way to describe them lmao
Hack and slash in 3D
I think in Japan metroidvanias are called âsearch actionâ games
Which makes sense
it is wild when a game/games define a genre so much that future titles are referred to by its name
"souls-like" "doom clones" though, the latter eventually fell off in favor of first person shooter
what would we call souls-likes if we didn't call them that?
Same with rogue-like and rogue-lite
Rogue was its own game
metroidvania
right, we named that one
for a while we were calling souls-likes soulsborne
I don't think that phrase is common anymore
action rp- wait nvm
i wonder is the bruiser returns. i think we can spot potential concept art of it and a quick shot of a dev working on it
bruiser?
in doom 3, it was some cyber variant of somehting, i think officially they are the generic name of hell nobles
i think there is a concept art show on that wall, as well as 1:53 timestamp point on the show case
i thoguht maybe it was a titan variant, but the other video looks to be another larger demon
the only concept art i could find its pretty crappy, not worth posting here
Off topic but does Anyone know how to increase the volume on a video ?
I feel like not enough people are talking about how cool that armored hell knight thing is
In screenshots
That's cuz the rest of the game is a testosterone overload so everything looks ordinary even tho by itself it's sick
Trueđ¤Ł
it throws energy axes, it might be similar to the cyber baron.
Man i hate bruisers, but they added much needed challenge to the game
either use artifact or use plasma gun to deflect their endless stream of projectiles
i always preffered double shotgun to the face
Surely people will mod in the pacific rim theme into mech segments if they have their own track
Did you guys pre order? If so what version?
i5-11400h RTX3060M how cooked am i guys
I preordered the collector's edition :3
I also preordered the helmet
i have to work mon-wed. Can't relaly play until later wed night, but ill prob be taking thursday off
so ill be playing at the same times as non collectors people will be playing
which also means mostly blackout taht week, but i hope there is a non spoiler chat channel. ill be drinking some wine
Iâm like 99% sure the collectors edition people will also be playing the same night as non collectors people depending how reliable the delivery companies are
Yah there is certinaly that issue, i did get my DE and 2016 boxes earlier than release, but that was through non bethesda stores,
Hrr that's comforting, I bought mine from a Australian store
I actually have to pick it up
Both digital premium edition and collectors bundle
Hrr I've been planning on doing the same
Nice nice. I recently got the premium edition for ps5 at gamestop
thatâs awesome dude
I did the same but for the Australian version of gamestop
Yea, dude no lie like just a week before TAG 2 came out I found a ps4 version of doom eternal deluxe for like 40 bucks on gamestop, happiest week of my life
Excited for release
Day 60 of 112
I preorderd The Dark Ages
what the y do to man cubus?
Yo

This emojis remind of stickers we were collecting in school
My good i love nostalgija
lol yeah
i hate mancubu desing is like carcrass but in mancubus
Whos carcuss i forgot
doom eternal demon that smap you de plasma shiekd
The small fat fucks who make energy shields
TDA's mancubi design looks fine imo
Well yea it does remind a bit but still mancubus
It looks like classic doom's mancubi
[I think]
It does def
Yes i mean thats the point
I love it
They are remaking whole franchise but with universe
Hrr I'm really hoping to see more wintherins
Hmm
The dragons we saw in TAG 2
Ohh
Wintherins
Well maybe
There's 2 types as well
Ohh
Serrat looks like the demonic one a bit more than the sentinel one
Serrat doesn't look like a wintherin tho, so it's weird
Wenis
will dark ages have m&k support for console?
Probably not
it's a modified wintherin
it has that cyber helmet

Wintherins don't have eyes. They also have a set of lower tusks.
on second look at what a wintherin look like, i can see the difference
conclusion: it's a new non-hell dragon
look in #screenshots
source: Doom Wiki
Is this doom game going to a semi open world
more than likely no
sandbox is a broad term relating to several things
so I don't even know what they fully meant
Do you think itâs worth getting the premium or regular edition
Thanks
It just means the levels themselves are larger and more open
yes
Shieldsaw for bunny.
Oooo
Would ye be willing to make me one if I can pay ya for it? Or is it just a personal thing
Ahhh fair enough
And the version that I have its not spinning, the spikes I mean, they hide tho
Oh fun, how do they hide?
basically a manual lever
Ohhh
Thatâs fair
but I did print it and worked on it
How much would you charge for one like in the pic you sent?
probably a little shy off $180, since its not spinning
depends how large you want it too
Thatâs fair!
but I gotta ask for permission to sell
How big is the little one in the pic?
a little larger than your hand... I havent measured it xD
Lmao
You can find the same model on Etsy for the shield, but its not printed they correct way and they're way smaller
Lemme know if ya get permission to sell em, would love to have one
Trying to get more non-Bethesda stuff in my collection lol
Ahh
no, Levels are still Linear in a sense and theres Still Levels/Missions
just way more open
and by Sandbox, they mean you can kill the Demons however you want
Melee, Shield, Guns, Glory Kills, Atlan, Dragon, whatever (Atlan, and Dragon are only during Specific parts since those are the "Pace-Breakers")
Modernization of classic Doom level design. Canât wait to explore the environments.
kinda semi-open because certain areas will open over time
Yeah, something like After Doom or Eviternity in that sense
They specifically mentioned the levels would be sprawling and nonlinear.
now that you mention it, i kinda want TDA to be more open world
i like the idea of smaller demons respawning when you clear an "arena"
Far better than I could do, thats for sure, looks great
The harderst part is being ripped like the doomslayer ngl 
if that's the hardest part then the 2016 doom slayer is probably the easiest to cosplay lmao
since his entire body is covered
really, I guess to do Eternal and Dark Ages all you have to do is work biceps super hard lol
Yeah I got some fake muscles lol
Anabolic steroids, my friend
nah i achieved his physique as a natty on a vegan keto diet in about 2 months
New information is coming soon! I can feel it
Your pfp is truly the leandemon
- NDA For streamers being lifted next week 2. PC Gamer issue 396, 3. Incoming Trailer no. 2
All this might happen before april
i just want new music clips really thatll hold me off until release
Probalby get a Hugo stream or two in late april, with a final launch trailer in early May
Do we know when the pc gamer issue is supposed to drop?
based on the past few months, every 27-28 days
once published, i guess they takea day to get mailed
dec 5th, jan 2nd, jan 30th, feb 27th were the last four issues
prob will be this week, just a matter of time for magazine scans
Yeah going off of that it would probably be this Thursday or Friday then, Monday at the latest
Still waiting for the final collectors item to release
Bethesda would be stupid to only make 2 of the 3 key cards
Praying itâs something cheap
which color is missing?
and when do we get skull keys?
red is missing in 2016 campaign btw
we're only missing yellow iirc i really hope it releases with a shield saw
Maybe weâll get more 2016 merch for its tenth anniversary? Since that is technically gonna fall this year? Who knows honestly
I donât, it would be cool but I donât wanna spend 400
that is like almost the same day as TDA release
true
man 10 years ago, i was living in a condo, no kids
Damn peak year was that long ago
Day 61 of 112
I hope we get a master level of every level in dark ages
master levels and grand master levels because i coudlnmt beat the later ones
Master Level Campaign mode
i hope the DLC is the argenta civil war
since the main campaign will be the unholy crusades
maybe?

