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honestly I would just stick to the current lore and universe instead of trying to connect everything, because it is shoddily constructed since the OG games were not made with the current lore in mind lmao
I mainly know maykr lore, not so much the rest, but w maykr lore comes with hell lore, so I kinda know some things around that
they said they're taking the lore out of the codex and into the cutscenes or something
Awh man
but what kind of lore?
yeah, but I don't think we're gonna find out if Doom 3 is canon is what I'm saying
I think what he means is that we're getting to play and see stuff only mentioned in the codex of games past
still looking forward to playing Doom 3
like, you won't have to read a bunch of shit to understand the story and who every character is
I feel like the cutscenes are gonna make the lore kind of more up to interpretation, which is annoying
the problem is that Doom retcons a lot
take for example: the Spectre
And they never tell us when they do either.
sure, but what I'm trying to say is that the story is going to be more satisfying because you don't have to read the codex to get it
which is what I want
in 2016, they said they were Pinkies experimented on with Cacodemon eyes to give them partial invisibility
yet in Eternal, they said they were summoned from ancient rituals to rise against the archdemons
I'm sure there will still be monster bios/lore in TDA
I'm sure there will still be stuff to read
but that you won't have to for the story to make sense
Truly a doom moment
what i'm saying is that we're gonna expect to see a lot of changing lore and info
joy.
on the brightside: there will be demons to kill
Also with the specter, I wouldn't be shocked if the UAC accidentally recreated how they were formed
yeah, i'm really looking forward to the skull gun tearing through zombies and imps
fun fact: the guy who wrote Doom 3 is 76 and also wrote for the RE4 remake lol
so he's still at it I guess
I really wanna fight the fatass maykr
they said the spectres in Doom 3 were completly manmade
I don't even remember spectres in Doom 3
I don't like fighting maykrs but fuck j wanna hit the chonkyr
he looks like a Tyrant from eternal and that is very funny to me
that's because there weren't
oh okay was it only mentioned in a recording or something?
or maybe they were hiding
I was about to ask how tf but like. I see it now
Werent specters introduced in 2016
no they're in Doom 1
and you just couldn't see them
Ah
They were in classic doom, just not the same name iirc
no they were called spectres
Awh shit
no they were still spectres back then
that never changed
I told you, I know more abt the maykrs n shit than classic doom 😭
the pinkies were called just "demons"
THATS RIGHT
i thought that was weird since literally everything except the zombies were all demons
The nameless.
Demon is the official name, but Id software has called them pinkies since forever
They're pink :D
its referenced in the Doom movie as well iirc
it's also referenced in 2016, where their codex said that they were unnamed in hell, and the UAC affectionately called them Pinkied
That's such a UAC thing to do tho
kinda sounds a bit like a reference to Id software themselves nicknaming them in the 90s
which is cute
the pinky monster (they weren't explicitly demons in the movie) was originally a human who was nicknamed "Pinky"
Oh that's kinda sad
yeah
its a reference to their nickname
it was modeled after the doom 3 pinky, and the hind legs are wheels because the original human was in a wheelchair prior to his transformation
now the Doom movie is DEFINITELY non canon hahaha
since the monsters were created by a biological experiment
more like RE in space :p
I mean, some of the demons in eternal/2016 were as well
The revenant and the carcasses
the movie itself eas also kinda weird in the sense of the monsters were simple Mars aliens, and not actual demons from hell
the revenant was manmade and engineered since 1994
no hell energy in the movie, however
no I meant however in response to Thomas
oh
since the man made demons in eternal and 2016 used hell energy and shit to be made
argent
also I suppose the classic revenant is still technically a demon
That's right, the carcasses are powered by argent
since it is a demon skeleton that has been retrofitted with rockets and armor
though, no word on if man does this, or demons do this
both are equally possible in the wacky world of classic doom
they said "when a demon dies, they brush it off, wire it up some combat gear, and send it back to battle"
Weren’t revenants a normal human or smth until they got affected by a Lazarus wave
yeah, who are "they" lmfao
plus it makes the pain sounds of zombies
maybe the demons themselves, it was implied they stole earth's tech for their own use
yeah
In 2016 it was man made I think
so not "man made"
talking about classic doom
in the modern games the UAC kinda works with Hell, or at least experiments on its denizens
this is not the case/way more vague in classic doom
revenants are not born, they are recycled from the dead demons so i'd say they were "demon made" and not manmade
haha yeah that's more accurate
Deag Ranak works at UAC in Eternal
classic doom was way more joking with their monster descriptions
yeah, they're flavor text more than anything
Whats yalls favorite demons design mines the marauder
uhhh caco
doom hunter
Agadon Hunter
maybe revenant
Cool
Any game
The marauder from DOOM?
if it was the classics, then i'd say probably Mancubus or Cyberdemon
Ya
classic doom has super iconic sprites
imp
the Imp is amazing too, with his forever open mouth lol
Cacos piss me off in 2016
those old sprites have so much character, the new games get close to replicating it with the talented animators
True
but they aren't quite as charming to me at least
mostly because I think the new games also want demons to look cool, which is admirable, but the old sprites are so goofy and memorable to me that nothing can really compete
i really don't mind eternal's direction with replicating the original games sprites
yeah it works
doot
Arachnotrons in eternal almost made me break my tv and so did whiplashes
Get grabbed idiot/lh
I really love the TDA imp that looks like the classic imp
ice grenade + rockets
Yeah just a reskin
for sure, I'm so glad that they kept the Doom 3 design
What was yalls opinion on doom 3
pretty great
i'm really excited
least favorite main line game, but they're all so good
It was good when i played it
Doom Eternal’s Pain Elemental
remember kids: least favorite doesn't mean "i don't like it"
Now thats a good one
oh my god, yes the Eternal PE is soo good
he's so funny too
Meatball :D
they managed to capture the goofyness of the OG well
i thought the things in its mouth were even smaller hands or claws
Meatball w arms running at you wyd
his little arms aaahhh

Agreed. Honestly one of the best adapted demons. Looks sick as Hell too
Do yall think my laptop can run the dark ages when it comes out mines a asus tuff gaming laptop
Hugo Martin said he wanted the Pain Elemental to look like a grumpy old man when he moves
what's in it?
Ill have to check later
Oh my God he's so right
They succeeded lol
funny and true
oh no more pc statistics
I think the new animation team is so good
yeah the animation was extremely good, but i noticed some flaws in the lip syncing in the cutscene before the fight of Immora
I'm happy Emerson is still w id, his designs are very recognisable
in TAG P2
wonder if some lines were changed really late in development
and they had to ship it
Valen was supposed to be killed by the Dark Lord
FUCK
but due to time constraints it was scrapped
WE MISSED OUT ON THAT
I think they pretty much had to release it by a certain point to make good on a legal thing

really really disappointed
Man that's so balls
legal thing related with Mick or something else?
no
Whos valen again i forgot
the betrayer
The betrayer, guy who gives you hammer
it was because 2 DLCs were promised within a year of release or something
Ah ok
the guy who gives Doomguy his gucci lantern
may be misremembering
Scope of TAG was a little too big for a DLC imo. Obviously the pandemic wasn’t foreseen so that definitely impacted development. Parts 1 and 2 were still a ton of fun though.
It does look like a lantern
I wanted more intern content.
I think TAG part 1 was better, but I enjoyed both well enough
Yeah I agree
like honestly TAG part 1 is my favorite part of the game
Why do we have no intern merch it's so sad
That intern helped more than anyone else
For sure.
intern merch 😭
We have a UAC hoodie, we should get a ARC hoodie
"ay yo you watch anthony fantano?"
i wasn't satisfied they cut him out at "oh wait im losing signal" and never bring him back again
Idk a funkopop or something 😭
Lmao
the audience for an intern funkopop is so small, but they do make really weird ass characters into funkos I guess :p
i wanted a cinematic of what earth has become after Hell's reign had ended, seeing all the humans rebuilding society, including the ARC
I like to think he's just kinda wondering tf the slayer is doing
"Is he dead or like what"
I can only name 1 person who would buy an intern funko and they're talking to me right now
Hey, I know some more
hm who could it be
Giggles 
Doesn’t eternal take place around covid
"Don't mess with the intern fan community, there are DOZENS of us!"
I'm messing around obviously, an intern funko would be really fucking funny though
No it takes place in like, the year 2100 lol
it released during covid (and during animal crossing), but the timeline is really messed up with the whole "teleporting through dimensions" thing
I was farr off lol
I want a big Samuel funko or a mcfarlane figure or smthn
I want more merch other than doomguy and cacodemon please id software
Ah ok
samuel got a cool ass design
when are we seeing an official crossover of doomguy and isabelle from id software (WITHOUT SHIPPING, PLEASE)
his maykr form is pretty generic but thats still awsome because maykr design is peak
I fucking hate that boss fight
listen if you're gonna make Doom merch, the caco and doomguy are probably the two most iconic images from the series
His maykr form is rather different to the rest, something something eye and robes
A maykr wearing clothes is weird imo
i guit TAG 1 for about 5 months after dying to him and then i picked it up and 1st tried him after 5 months
caco got enough merch give some other characters a time to shine
I would buy THE FUCK out of a classic imp sprite hoodie
There’s some neat collectibles of the Eternal toys. I think the Bethesda Gear Store and Numbskull produced about half of the ones from the game.
It took me a bit cause i was playing on ps4
I want a Samuel shrine or intern shrine smh
my broke third world country ass could not afford that
Yeah I'm aware of em, but like. man they don't even have the khan maykr
My freind said hed smash the khan maykr💀
i'm still saving up for a new jacket i'll probably buy on shopee and get it with a free rat to go
That’s sadly true. Only about 8-10 characters got figures
i was disappointed when the spectre wasn't a jello something figure
... lowkey tho I agree
Lol, guess that would fit
we need an actually transparent spectre figure
She isnt that ugly honestly
Rip their caco eyes out
She isn’t even fleshy when she dies
she looks like an archie
RIP, sorry big dog
Id rather screw the maykr than a mancubus
It could get yellowed the older it gets, it wouldn't have a good shelf life
or uh, squints at profile picture little dog?
oh
I just wanted my Pain Elemental figure. Never got made😔
you wanna talk about expensive?
he's a shih tzu who got a makeover
very cute, is he yours?
yep and he's 8 months
aw
Aww pupper
a real demon at home
had 2 dogs, one recently passed in september
Awh :[
don't worry, he was 17, long happy life, toy poodle, little guy
My huskys 8
he was very smart and knew he was annoying, we loved him dearly
I can't remember how old my kelpie/husky is
you know those people whose names are spelled "Keighley" or "Emileigh"?
I wanna say 7/8
my dog is named Coby
ew.
pronounced like Kobe Bryant
funny af
if I ever get another dog I want to name him Santino after the guy from the godfather
would just be a funny dog name
(also the dog that passed was named Sonny, which is short for Santino)
He's a bastard but he's a good boy
puppies are fun, we haven't had any in many years
here's an old ass picture of him lol
(this is a joke photo we did not drive around with him like this)
Awh but he's a good boy
we named them after japanese names: the girl is Yuri, and the boy is "Yuchi," shortened variant of Yuichi
he was born in 2007 I bet bro was older than many user on this discord lmao
Lemme see if I can find photos of Bill and George
FUCK what month
i'm [___] years older than him
June
FUCK.
lmaooooo
𝓕𝓾𝓬𝓴
He's older than me by a few months 😭
I was born in 1999
woh
2010, now that i feel comfortable
I was born in December lol
anyway, sorry for being off topic :p
my grandma had a standard poodle rescue like this
his name was Hershey
かわいいですね
my youngest brother was born in 2010 :p
Well Bill was a great Dane/mastiff, he was just very angry at bald men 💀
And terrified of grass
Lmao
did it have a bad experience with a bald man?
That’s adorable
thanks, he was a great dog
犬と猫はかわいい
condolences
Not to our knowledge 😭 the only trauma he experienced was in a kennel and that mf looked like John Romero but skinny
we knew he had it for years, just couldn't really do much about it
anyway, sorry about going on about this haha
xbox 🙂
huh, weird
I feel like doomguy would be a dog person
I would rather get a new Xbox Series X than upgrade my PC for TDA due to price constraints
But like. "Pitbulls are sweethearts don't demonise em" dog person I'm projecting
I've known many great pitbulls
He has a unreasonable hatred of isopods.
i've only realized that YourFriendJan's pfp and name is a homage to one of the lead devs of Roblox Pressure, my current fav game on Roblox
my mom's friend growing up was a dog groomer, always had animals at her house
and she was close to my mom, and I was close to her son, so I was there a loooot
and she was a hardcore dog person
had turtles and cats too
isopods? the aquatic ones?
is this further projecting haha
do you hate Isopods?
Nup I love em
you know he's probably not a fan of crabs because the demons in 2016 and eternal are very crab like
Rollie pollie bugs :D
isopods are neat
Would he have a blåhaj.
the first thing that popped up in my mind are imps
idk if this has ever been confirmed but my theory is that they gave the demons bug like elements to make the player feel less bad for killing them
in the modern games
Probably 😭
also you squish them like bugs
so it only makes sense
has starship troopers taught us NOTHING?
Though, something I've noticed is that divine things in doom are more buglike
well you squish them too
the tentacles of the maykrs
even demons that before were more like goats have bug like elements added to them
The maykr deacon's mouth reminds me of bug mandibles for some reason
Yeah that's right
the 2016 cyber had two sets of eyes
they have a carapace
very tiny ones
the 2016 mancubus as well
has huge bug vibes
I definitely think the choice to make them more bug like was to make them less human and therefore more fun to kill
the carapace one, the hell knight, hell guards, and parasites had them
Davoth looks like a beetle
the mancubus had actual biological arm cannons
A RHINO/STAG BEETLE.
yeah he does
so I'm not crazy? the bug theory is reasonable?
I've been thinking about this for years
Oh definitely
mmmm it's plausible
Bugs do hold a place in divinity too
I mean, the new designs for sure have bug like elements
which is a common method for dehumanizing aliens and shit like that
since bugs are very alien cretures to us, we tend to think they're gross (not everyone)
ehhhh not for me since i'm Christian but for other religions, i guess bugs hold some form of divinity
and personally, I think mantises are adorable
they're also metal af
they have really funny faces
Yes. Orchid mantises are very pretty imo
Praying mantis
Yeah, I was more talking abt Egyptian and the like mb 😭
ohhh
most people do not feel bad about killing bugs though, which is why, if you make a game like Doom where you are mercilessly killing things, it makes more sense to get inspiration from bugs rather than other animals
Also would the name of the maykr language be maykrean
no idea haha
i dunno, maybe they also spoke Argenta
It flows nicely imo
the old games didn't have this problem because of the low fidelity, in modern games you kinda have to make everything more believable (at least in the triple aaa space) so seeing a demon that looks more like a real animal might make it harder for some people to play the game, hence, bugs
The maykr language is entirely translatable in TAG btw :3
my brain is expanding
in the flashbacks doomguy had of his past, i think it's like how anime handles foreign people: they're speaking japanese so the viewer can understand, bbut in world wise, they're speaking the other language
maybe doomguy doesn't even speak english
maybe his universe doesn't have english at all
Well, he did but the sentinels/maykrs said it was ugly and blunt
do you think he had to learn whatever language they speak on the current earth?
example: in JJBA part 5: an italian main character says to a japanese character "wow your italian is really good"
oh do they say its english? haha I don't remember
right, its in the language the viewer speaks to make it so you don't have to know the language the characters should be speaking
i think it was the other way around, the argenta and the maykrs learned doomguy's language to understand him
applies for english dubs of japanese stuff
then how do they know its english?
Samur totally learnt English frfr copium.
the khan maykr knows a lot
my theory is more fun, so I reject canon :p
they're fun and especially come in handy when you hate the ending of a story and need to cope
glances angrily at Mike MacDee's Knee Deep in the Dead book
One of my favourite ones I've come up with was that Samur and doomguy had a decent relationship, and once Samuel kinda found out he was the seraphim, he kinda tried to mend the relationship
Will my pc run DA in 1080 100fps?
Specs are i5-12400f/16gb ram/rx6600
Isn't a rx6600 the minimum card 😭
Absolutely not. Not even open the game
Yeah..
i don't think doomguy likes to have relatiinships
Working/vague companionship is how I view it
i estimate TDA to be like 120+ GB
100 GB at minimum
light
And isn't the minimum ram 32gb? Or am I batshit
16 is minimum
Sadly, it is
I'm thinking of upgrading gpu to something like 7700xt but im not so sure if it's really worth it
if you have 16 gigs of ram, you NEED to upgrade
eternal's is about 80 (based on what i've seen, i don't have the game)
Your CPU won’t even be able to run the game 😭
Who said bruh
8 cores cpu doesn't mean that you can't launch the game or your pc will explode without it
i wonder if 2016 would make my current pc overheat and commit suicide
sometimes i just wonder
Sorry to interrupt chat but am I batshit or did the statue give doomguy some fat on the sides
There's a swell there
maybe
we know how muscular doomguy is, seeing davoth
I doubt we're gonna see him naked so you can interpret it how you want haha
It's chainmail, it functions very similarly to fabric
unless 🤨
we did see him shirtless tho in the form of the dark lord
maybe he just has crazy obliques idk
d-don't say what i'm thinking
maybe he went on a diet for Eternal
though, he appears to be a big fan of pizza...
I just prefer a fatish doomguy, it makes sense for him to be bigger that way, and still be muscular as shit
doomguy doesn't need to eat, drink, or sleep
he just eats pizzs for tue fun of it
he doesn't? I didn't know this lore
I really don't want to see a shrinkwrapped doomguy 😭
did the divinity machine remove his need for food?
actually where did he get that pizza
one could argue
I wonder why he doesn't have a bed
doesn't sleep
the sarcophagus was where he napped for a while
Sleeping is wonderful everyone should enjoy sleeping
being awake for 24 full hours even if you don't have to sleep ever sounds hellish
I wonder if he even CAN sleep
Fr
truly horrifying
Samuel watches him sleep </3
that's spooky
i'm saying "for a while" because his rage is still building up inside him
He's definitely passed out on that chair in his room tho
like potential energy
how did he get out of hell after 2016?
listening to....
Reading comic books until he passes out fr
tether?
reading "the living end"
Vega maybe
oh do they never explain it?
Bega cheese...
we could get a full game just of that I guess :p why explain it
Lawn maykr...
clearly a lot happens between 2016 and Eternal we are not completely privy to
no vega was mostly destroyed after 2016, and the new copy was still like 𝙷𝚎𝚕𝚕𝚘 𝚠𝚘𝚛𝚕𝚍!
I want more Samuel lore and clarification on what tf he did beforehand
they need to make a game where we have a sword fight with hayden...
STANDING HERE I REALIZE
we were promised it in 2016 dammit
the longer the icon of sin is on earth.....
god it sucks that they took that from us, I get that Eternal probably ended up the way it was from a plot perspective simply from the game design
I am certain the game design and levels came first then they wrote the story around it
we deserved Into Sandy's City
and I'm cool with that because the levels are awesome
but I wish we got the confrontation we were promised at the end of 2016
we deserved that, and they took it away from us
I want to see humam Samuel's degradation from cancer. It would be interesting on how id software would've portrayed it
Idk I just want more old man hayden 😭
Samuel Hayden, the Telltale series
You telling me that wouldn't be absolute fire
well as far as we know, for most of Samuel Hayden's existence, possibly all of his human existence, the slayer was in a coffin
so it would be a bit difficult for them to portray human hayden
Not even possibly, he got cancer around his 60/70s, and in 2016 he's over 130 years old
yeah so its like, it would have to be a completely different game
that doesn't have the slayer in it
or maybe just flashbacks in cutscenes idk
Ik it's me and my wishful thinking
you know in portal 2 they have Cave Johnson's old recordings talk to you
maybe we could get old audio logs of Samuel Hayden
That's a good idea.
I wanna see him struggle w reality [iirc his cancer was located in the sensory processing lobes]
"i'm willing to take full responsibility for the sake of mankind"
could be like that level with the lady in Eternal, but instead its like, an old UAC facility and its Hayden's audio logs throughout the final years of his human life
will have to wait till post TDA though lol
I have a feeling we will not be seeing our main man Sam in TDA
Give human hayden random ass doomguy hallucinations he doesn't realise were memories from his time as samur
would the tech be advanced enough to have holograms?
I'd hope we'd see Samur
oh yeah like he predicts the slayer's coming when he touches the coffin or something
like they dig up the coffin and suddenly certain memories come flooding back
In TDA? probably, the sentinels do have a form of projection
that would be sick
the Hebeth lab looks pretty damn high tech
whst if instead of holograms we csn see him through the spheres of energy or something
they can make goddamn laser guns
I totally think they can make holograms
maybe they're magic holograms lol
the concept art made me think the sentinels use a combination of science and magic
oh yeah i forgot the divinity machine existed
Nawh even before that, I mean human hayden, when the cancer got bad he started having these weird hallucinations n shit
when did they dig up the coffin?
how long was it there before the doom slayer got out?
Olivia was there, and he was a robot when they got the coffin
ah okay
iirc sammy and olivia that bitch discovered the coffin together
wasn't completely sure about that
oh it was already said
she wasn't disabled
yeah she was, her legs were messed up right?
she was just very robotty with her fit
She had severe scoliosis 😭
yeah I think they used argent to make her exoskeleton or something?
Probably, it was experimental
which explains why she's so obssessed with it
the mastermind herself
She also refuses pain medication, and I think that's totally reasonable
Olivia is a great villain, I like that she is always one step ahead of you, like bowser or something haha
btw did she transform into the spiderdemon, or was she sacrificed for it?
I think she transformed into it
The meds she would be put on would genuinely cloud her mind [she'd be put on opioid meds]
She and the mastermind become one iirc
a couple of hell steroids, and you turn into a spider
I wanna hug Olivia lowkey
with the BFG?
i would.... to break her spine
in the mouth?
that DOES NOT excuse what she did haha
I'd also wanna hug most of the doom characters tho
also Thomas: destroys a statue of her in Nekravol
I wouldn't have the balls to talk to any one of em tho
I can't even talk on the phone
Olivia’s constant pain (self-chosen, she refused to take pain meds because she felt it clouded her mind) drove her to madness which is what let one of the Deags get to her
The statue is pretty 😭
I feel bad
Olivia: Girlboss. Samuel Hayden: Gaslighting. The Khan Makyr: Gatekeeping.
I figured it out, guys
pack it up
Doomslayer: on drugs
Girlboss? She's a girl failure have you seen her office 😭
She eats like a 12 year old
lol she's high ranking though
She also probably knows french
i don't fkin know what you're talkin about i don't know much cutscenes of 2016
Several Pizza boxes.
its not a cutscene, just an area you go to
𝗦𝗰𝗮𝗿𝘆 𝗳𝗮𝗰𝘁𝘀 𝗻𝘂𝗺𝗯𝗲𝗿 𝟲𝟳: 𝘁𝗵𝗲𝗿𝗲 𝗶𝘀 𝗮 𝗙𝗥𝗔𝗡𝗖𝗘
She's also ridiculously good at the doom equivalent of candy crush
lol
oh that I remember that
I wonder what her Super Turbo Turkey Puncher 3 high score is...
Oh she'd beat the slayer's ass at it
E4M9 background
Being disabled has a few perks, like the ability to lay in bed all day playing candy crush because if you move, your entire body is on fire
-Olivia probably
lots of time to plan your evil soul harvesting plot
That too.
Olivia is so real for bedrotting
well Samuel was important enough to be given a new body, I wonder if Olivia would have that luxury
Definitely not, samuel would try though
I wonder if Hayden was short when he was human, so he asked for his robot body to be made huge
and the tech guys shrugged and were like "alright, more room to put the tech into"
He seems to have a [somewhat] soft spot for Olivia
DAMN
Awh man.
check out the new bsky post from DOOM
Bet bet
its just the imp, its awesome
gorgeous model, goddamn
making his mouth constantly open: GOAT move
looks so awesome
that's really badass
it looks so close to the original imp!!
also, with that body build, it looks more like a heavy demon rather than a fodder
Every Doom game has incredible art direction, damn
Stalker, that means all classic imps are of the stalker variant
but it fires green ... i find that confusing
my 3 year old says its a arch vile, and he is upset im calling it a stalker
I think the green is because that attack is counterable
my theory is that Imps will only fire counterable projectiles to introduce you to the concept
Day 57 of 112
@plain iron looking at the art book for the first time, the concept art for Eternal is so gorgeous, and its crazy how they translated a lot of this 1:1 into the game
Yeah it's wonderful
impressive work from the artist and the 3D artists at Id who brought it to life so accurately
I actually own a copy and it's so worth it
Mind flayers.
look at this, is this not oddly similar to the floating monsters from TDA? just makyr instead of fleshy?
I wouldn't be surprised if they used that design for it
Definitely early on
That looks like Emerson's work
Also, immora concept design from colin geller
wow
I rarely draw, I doodle in MSPaint sometimes
I don't have any Doom drawings so I can't post it hehe
Awh draw a little doomguy scribble it's great
maybe sometime
oooh yeah love this one, the Doom 64 logo is great!
imo Doom Eternal is tied with 3 for having the best hell
parts of it do remind me of Doom 3, here with those demon head statues with the lava falls coming out
that's very Doom 3 to me
just posted on the Doom bsky
Its literally the og imp
And I’m here for it
What is bsky
I'm so fucking glad these guys are back
was really hoping to see them in Eternal and was fairly disappointed that they were left out. they look beautiful, absolute perfection. the pinnacle of hellspawn
They’re beautiful, I agree
I like the new imp design a lot but something about this feels better, though, we will have the 2016/eternal imps with the hairy imps
And these are called imp stalkers, so I’m gonna guess the other ones will be called imp soldiers or something like that
I think it's cool that we have two very different types of one species on the battlefield now
I'm fairly certain that the Imp Stalkers will be lower evolutions of the Archviles
don dak age
2016's Summoners are highly evolved modern Imps, I'm not sure if it ever says anything about the Archvile being an imp as well
but it seems pretty likely now. The Stalkers remind me of Eternal's Archvile
Well I kinda think it might be a design language thing but we will see
The big claws are very archvile like though
you have a great point
and you have an excellent point
oh and the legs of this imp remind me of the 2016 summoner

It’s hard to say, in a way it looks like the vile, but it also looks pretty much exactly how you would
Imagine the classic imp would look in the modern doom style
Sans the giant claws
whoa
Oh no
Its crazy how it looks like summoner, og imp and the archvile
It looks the most like the OG imp imo
But I can see certain elements of the other 2, but is that intentional or is it just because it’s the same style?
i don't know and this makes me insane
Im gonna doooom
no, i got a notification from shop that it was back and then checked my self
considering that new games were quite noticeably built off the Doom 3's aesthetics (especially D2016) it's no surprise, Doom 3 runs deep in their DNA even if lore wise game's kinda irrelevant to modern games
Well yes. Of course, Doom 2016 in particular has a very clear aesthetic inspiration from doom 3 in terms of the UAC architecture, and you can still see it even in the Hebeth labs for dark ages
yeah , it's awesome
Imp stalkers?
Kinda looks like their belly/lighter areas of skin is a sort of softer flesh while the darker parts look more like hardened skin
check the new teaser, posted above
If you don't mind me asking, I have a question for a qna in case you make one for the march preview:
Are there more classic iterations of demons?
(Sorry for pinging)
no worries, ping me anytime you want
@warm ibex i'm a fan
hell yeah
bro what?
You seem cool :D
thank you! you guys seem pretty cool too
I lurk here a lot, seeing so many different opinions and theories is always interesting
I saw you made a community post about preview gameplay 👀
Maybe my imagination
Prolly imagining
that's right!
Oh
So it wasn’t imagination
I find it funny how many YouTubers and stuff seem very busy and not very talkative and like that but when you get to talk to them they’re the absolute opposite
Concept art and a model overview for the Imp Stalker (classic Imp) was released today, that's all the big news for now
Oo cool
People using that kind of name for people and stuff are usually very annoying or slightly brainrotted to me
Cinematic promotion trailer for doom the dark ages when
Hopefully we get a DOOM 3 design of sorts, whether as a skin or as an enemy
That would be pretty sick
The Imp from D3 is my favorite design of it
It's certainly interesting! definitely don't hate it
I don't think D3 has any enemy designs that are just straight up bad
Alright
A lot of them are ugly which is kind of the point, like I can see why someone doesn't like the Cacodemon design but come on it's for a horror-focused game
So upgrading my PC is too expensive
I’ll just be getting a new XBOX (prolly if parents allow)
That's probably the way to go if you can't afford a solid PC at the moment
I'm going the same route but I'm not really in a hurry for it
I won't be buying TDA for like a year anyway so
Basically, let’s say 1$ is 10 of my currency, and upgrading my PC would cost atleast 11000 of my currency
XBOX Series X is 6000 ish
So uh going cheaper is going better in this case right
You can just get a Series S if you don't care about physical gaming, it's cheaper
Is there a major difference
Graphically there is one but it's not HUGE, it has 50% less memory though
512 GB-1 TB huh
You can always pick up an external drive
Hopefully they're gonna have more time to work on the dlc too unlike doom eternal
If I go with Series S I save like half a year of saving
And my parents would probably allow it too
But
Actually nvm
Are the newer Xbox consoles capable of raytracing
I believe so
They are, but in the end that doesn't really matter
Because doom the dark ages
Console games are optimized for... well, the console
Yup it’s on Series X|S
When I put it in the opposite order it could get weird so fixed it
Plus DOOM is under Microsoft, would be silly to have your biggest game of 2025 not accessible on your current hardware
:true:
Alright
I’ll be uh
Spinning wheel
Wow
S won
I’ll be honest I was a bit skeptical about Series S when it has just about enough SSD storage (minimum) for TDA and only up to 1440p with MAYBE 4K depending on the situation or smth
The game is gonna be optimized for Series S
Yayayay
Do we know if ID plans to reveal more gameplay before release?
I think that's a given
They had some youtubers play a little bit of it recently so they're probably getting ready for a big marketing push
I actually like this ambient track they have. It has like ticking sounds from a clock with weird warbling from an urdak track, it's really nice
its so sad that mick gordon isnt making the sound track but the looks of the new sound track is actually kinda good tho
im ngl i kinda like finishing moves stuff more than micks
dont get me wrong mick was amazing but theres just something about the new soundtrack that makes me love it
The ambient piece heard in the Imp Stalker showcase is (almost certainly) from Infernal Chasm. It likely follows the Coutdown to Death callback in the intro of the song, before bridging into the main chorus (heard at 0:35 in Finishing Move's soundtrack teaser). The ticking clock motif is probably also a reference to Countdown to Death
52 Days
Awesome analysis as always, I hope you can make the doom ost reference vid when the game comes out(assuming you want to)
its
its the original
Holy shit, its the original guy

AND IT HAS A DOMINANT ARM THAT ITS USED TO SPECIFICALLY SHOOT THE FIREBALLS
I definitely want to, and in fact, I've tried a couple of times. The issue is getting struck by copyright. Under Sections 47 and 47AA of The Copyright Act, 1968 (which is applicable to me as I'm Australian) and Bethesda's fan video policy, I'm well within my rights to do what I do. Unfortunately, that doesn't prevent someone from claiming to be the copyright holder and striking my uploads
Oh man, so is it just not possible?
Well atleast I can hear your mixes when the game releases
It's possible, but it'll be a little ways down the road
Best of luck man. I hope you can get those doom eternal mixes back up, whoever flagged your videos were scum
IM GONNA DOOOOM
GOD ITS
UGHHH
THE DETAILS, THE FUCKING DETAILS LIKE THAT
ughh I really wish we get to see more demons have their original looking designs
Lost soul had it too
THATS RIGHT
You think the barons or knights will have it?
also
a thing I like about that dark ages its how the demons seem more sentient
THEY HAVE ARMOR AND WEAPONS?
LIKE
Like aware?
Did you see the cyberdemon?
ABSOLUTE UNIT
IT HAS WINGS
AND IT HAS LIKE AN ATTACK INVOLVING THOSE WINGS FROM WHAT I’VE HEARD?
I NEED THIS GAME ALREADY
IDK BRO BUT PARRYING IT MAKES A SHOCKWAVE
IMMA DOOOOM EITHER WAY
god this game
AND AND THE MECH
THE FACT THAT THE MECH AND DRAGON ARE GONNA BE LIKE USED NOT JUST ONCE
I better fight some 4 legged titans
Dude we can board ships with our dragon too
Can't wait to see em bond
Whatever bonding is in doom
“WE LOVE SERRAT”
we all say in unison
WE LOVE SERRAT
It just makes me sad that it all went to shit from what we have seen in eternal
Yeah they might be preparing us for some sad stuff
She probably died
whaddid i miss
dark ages hyping
Ye hopefully if they're focusing on the story, they'll make it more impactful and meaningful
the original imps returned
Here's my prediction, the chonkyr kills serrat.
Have we forgotten about the mysterious female warrior?
this is the start of like the war with hell
The one with the black cloak
who's serrat?
Hrrr ohh she looks like a dragon killer.
doomguy’s dragon
She genuinely has a cool design
oh yeah
With the scar and stuff
I don't know what she actually is, she's a bit too different from other normal wintherins
you guys have screenshots?
Hold on
She's missing the lower tusks
Similar to a demonic wintherin though
is she a dragon/wintherin?
cybernetic dragon
Dragons in doom aren't called dragons, typically they're called wintherins
yeah ik
All the ones we've seen so far
maledict
shit honestly we might fight demonic wintherins
buuuuuut thats a different universe
She doesn't look like a sentinel wintherin imo
that would be really sick
since aerial fights will be common
ITS DAVOTH'S-/j
they might throw demonic warships and demonic wintherins at us
more cacodemon, pain elemental, and demon wintherin fights
like honestly i'd think that we'll be riding serrat more to invade the demon castles
Demonic warships have actually been showcased, especially in the first trailer and dev direct.
and I've heard there's gonna be tanks in actual combat gameplay.
yeah but i don't think our tiny dragon and tiny doomguy hands could destroy an entire hell ship
in fact, we can
Serrat gets to destroy the turrets in the outside of the warships
I mean, if you can get inside it wouldn't be too hard.
and then we get into the inside and finish the job
i was kinda speakiny from outside so that makes sense
smaller things like what
I will never understand where the point is in having skins like this in a single player game lmao
well you wouldn't really be able to see that during gameplay cuz if you'd look then you'd see doomguy's ass on it
fun customization mainly
Sorry it took me a million years
eternal's skins in the single player campaign
Lemme show you
Like in rdr2, the horse stays the same colour n shit, but you can change smaller things like saddle style, stirrups and the like
it's ok
Its in screenshots
woah that's really grainy but i appreciate the effort
Yeah who spends real money to have a different skin in single Player campaign
Me
I do
With respect: why?
Yeah it's the clearest we have, but you can see the scarring and imposing nature
I'm not complaining at least you are funding one of my favourite dev studios. Still an odd monetisation scheme
I mean, at least it's not mandatory
cries in ₱
You can work for most of the skins, which is good imo
i find it cool that they accurately translated the classic doomguy armor into modern style
Default skin still looks better in most scenes imho
Mhm, they even got the scars from the classic cover too
His arm has scars where that demon grabbed him
though i wanted the box cover demon in the game
or atleast make an official physical appearance in TDA
Nah did you see the fan art
Also some of them were really beefy, looked like barons
some also had long snake tongues
guys how much is doom the dark ages gonna be is it 70 euros as usuall or what
Yeah roughly
Wait I just realized
There are modern imps in the backround of the imp stalker video
In the lastshot where he shoots the fireball
hol on whut
Yeah look in the backround you can recognize their scoliosis posture
Lemme send it in screenshot
the new imp looks like if it was some sort of distant cousin of the archvile
actually that might be the case
that's what we were discussing earlier!
speaking of, do we know if archies will return in this game?
I think that's a given
i....... don't see them.
and you don't need to! it's just that obvious
Whaa noo y
they kinda just look like rocks
maybe there will be normal imps and this will be our new archie
Im onto something
(supposedly) biggest enemy roster to date, every other iconic franchise staple is coming back. of course we'll see the archvile
that's a stretch, these "stalkers" are obviously of the imp species
But what about chaingunner
Sentinel chaingunner would be cool
Yeah some day
the modern imps are grey and hairy, we already know they're in the game
Crazy they put the Stream Protector in Dark Ages
I agree! It would fit in with the whole modern imps being related to summoners, given they act like archviles too
Hey wait that looks like the stone imps
oh they still look like the 2016/eternal imps
Here's the TDA Imp concept art featured in The Art of Slaying episode one (edited by me for clarity)
I'm not sure how much I agree with the archie thing, pretty sure they're seperate species
I think the superficial comparisons might be more just because of the way demons are designed in the new games
they look like nightmare imps
I don't think they do lol
for the most part, I think the Stalker Imp resembles the classic imp the most
Yes, that's the point, they're related, not the same species
i'm not sure if i like the color
I like purple
Well not anatomically but they have the same purple hue going, that's what I am reminded of
either way, the Stalker Imp might be my favorite demon design we've seen for TDA so far, it captures the classic sprite perfectly in the modern style
bro is going camping
that's what i'm saying my guy
Lowkey camping sounds great rn
I wonder what the Tyrant/Tyrant equivilant will look like
Hello mr Gaming
oh hey man
shit
Doom 64 is Hugo's favorite seemingly, so idk maybe the color is a call back, but he's not transluscent
maybe that's where the idea of having 2 imps comes from
I think we already saw em, them big ass winged mfs
i'm leaving this server out of 恥ずかしい
Cacos have had a weird evolution, the new one looks more like DOOM 3 cacos now
i don't want wings on my cybies
honestly i want more love for the doom 3 caco
yes sir
THE VAGARY IS BACK DAWG
I love Doom 3, great game, great code too
I think its interesting that the vile in Eternal has knee spikes like the classic imp does, but the classic archvile has no such spikes
doom 3 did a unique thing about the caco, even tho many people don't like it for straying too far
i want the DOOM 64 Pain Elemental
The classic archvile looks like a elongated white dude 😭
They became more armored defense so they can tank more
i used to bandwagon on the hate against it, but i grew to like it
Scariest thing ever
but malnourished
Wonder what species of imp this guy comes from
the archvile was always a heavier demon even in classic doom, takes like 4 SSG shots/3-4 rockets to put him down
The new purple imp looks also like a white dude 😭
i'm usually unlucky, it takes 4-5 rockets to drop him
Yeah but not the strongest heavy, he finally used creatine in Eternal
(for reference, the mancubus consistently takes 3 in classic doom)
what's creatine