#the-dark-ages

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prime sentinel
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especially since Hugo has said like "we love Doom 3, but that's something else, we're doing our own thing" essentially

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honestly I would just stick to the current lore and universe instead of trying to connect everything, because it is shoddily constructed since the OG games were not made with the current lore in mind lmao

plain iron
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I mainly know maykr lore, not so much the rest, but w maykr lore comes with hell lore, so I kinda know some things around that

autumn dawn
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they said they're taking the lore out of the codex and into the cutscenes or something

plain iron
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Awh man

autumn dawn
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but what kind of lore?

prime sentinel
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yeah, but I don't think we're gonna find out if Doom 3 is canon is what I'm saying

prime sentinel
autumn dawn
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still looking forward to playing Doom 3

prime sentinel
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like, you won't have to read a bunch of shit to understand the story and who every character is

plain iron
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I feel like the cutscenes are gonna make the lore kind of more up to interpretation, which is annoying

autumn dawn
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take for example: the Spectre

plain iron
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And they never tell us when they do either.

prime sentinel
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sure, but what I'm trying to say is that the story is going to be more satisfying because you don't have to read the codex to get it

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which is what I want

autumn dawn
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in 2016, they said they were Pinkies experimented on with Cacodemon eyes to give them partial invisibility

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yet in Eternal, they said they were summoned from ancient rituals to rise against the archdemons

prime sentinel
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I'm sure there will still be monster bios/lore in TDA

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I'm sure there will still be stuff to read

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but that you won't have to for the story to make sense

autumn dawn
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what i'm saying is that we're gonna expect to see a lot of changing lore and info

plain iron
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joy.

prime sentinel
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on the brightside: there will be demons to kill

plain iron
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Also with the specter, I wouldn't be shocked if the UAC accidentally recreated how they were formed

autumn dawn
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yeah, i'm really looking forward to the skull gun tearing through zombies and imps

prime sentinel
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fun fact: the guy who wrote Doom 3 is 76 and also wrote for the RE4 remake lol

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so he's still at it I guess

plain iron
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I really wanna fight the fatass maykr

autumn dawn
prime sentinel
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I don't even remember spectres in Doom 3

plain iron
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I don't like fighting maykrs but fuck j wanna hit the chonkyr

autumn dawn
autumn dawn
prime sentinel
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oh okay was it only mentioned in a recording or something?

autumn dawn
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or maybe they were hiding

plain iron
native geode
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Werent specters introduced in 2016

prime sentinel
autumn dawn
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and you just couldn't see them

native geode
plain iron
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They were in classic doom, just not the same name iirc

prime sentinel
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no they were called spectres

plain iron
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Awh shit

autumn dawn
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no they were still spectres back then

prime sentinel
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that never changed

plain iron
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I told you, I know more abt the maykrs n shit than classic doom 😭

autumn dawn
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the pinkies were called just "demons"

plain iron
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THATS RIGHT

autumn dawn
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i thought that was weird since literally everything except the zombies were all demons

plain iron
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The nameless.

prime sentinel
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Demon is the official name, but Id software has called them pinkies since forever

plain iron
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They're pink :D

prime sentinel
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its referenced in the Doom movie as well iirc

autumn dawn
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it's also referenced in 2016, where their codex said that they were unnamed in hell, and the UAC affectionately called them Pinkied

plain iron
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That's such a UAC thing to do tho

prime sentinel
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which is cute

autumn dawn
plain iron
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Oh that's kinda sad

prime sentinel
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its a reference to their nickname

autumn dawn
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it was modeled after the doom 3 pinky, and the hind legs are wheels because the original human was in a wheelchair prior to his transformation

plain iron
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Oh it gets worse

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Man.

prime sentinel
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now the Doom movie is DEFINITELY non canon hahaha

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since the monsters were created by a biological experiment

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more like RE in space :p

plain iron
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The revenant and the carcasses

autumn dawn
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the movie itself eas also kinda weird in the sense of the monsters were simple Mars aliens, and not actual demons from hell

autumn dawn
prime sentinel
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no hell energy in the movie, however

autumn dawn
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you mean "whatsoever"

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sorry didn't mean to be that guy

prime sentinel
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no I meant however in response to Thomas

autumn dawn
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oh

prime sentinel
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since the man made demons in eternal and 2016 used hell energy and shit to be made

autumn dawn
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argent

prime sentinel
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also I suppose the classic revenant is still technically a demon

plain iron
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That's right, the carcasses are powered by argent

prime sentinel
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since it is a demon skeleton that has been retrofitted with rockets and armor

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though, no word on if man does this, or demons do this

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both are equally possible in the wacky world of classic doom

autumn dawn
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they said "when a demon dies, they brush it off, wire it up some combat gear, and send it back to battle"

sleek ermine
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Weren’t revenants a normal human or smth until they got affected by a Lazarus wave

autumn dawn
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plus it makes the pain sounds of zombies

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maybe the demons themselves, it was implied they stole earth's tech for their own use

prime sentinel
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yeah

sleek ermine
prime sentinel
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so not "man made"

prime sentinel
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in the modern games the UAC kinda works with Hell, or at least experiments on its denizens

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this is not the case/way more vague in classic doom

autumn dawn
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revenants are not born, they are recycled from the dead demons so i'd say they were "demon made" and not manmade

prime sentinel
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haha yeah that's more accurate

sleek ermine
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Deag Ranak works at UAC in Eternal

autumn dawn
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classic doom was way more joking with their monster descriptions

prime sentinel
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yeah, they're flavor text more than anything

native geode
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Whats yalls favorite demons design mines the marauder

prime sentinel
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uhhh caco

autumn dawn
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doom hunter

sleek ermine
prime sentinel
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maybe revenant

native geode
prime sentinel
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unless we're talking the new games specifically

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I'm thinking of the sprites

native geode
prime sentinel
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yeah probably the cacodemon from Doom 1 and 2

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its insanely iconic

sleek ermine
hard thistle
autumn dawn
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if it was the classics, then i'd say probably Mancubus or Cyberdemon

native geode
prime sentinel
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classic doom has super iconic sprites

autumn dawn
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imp

prime sentinel
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the Imp is amazing too, with his forever open mouth lol

native geode
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Cacos piss me off in 2016

autumn dawn
prime sentinel
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those old sprites have so much character, the new games get close to replicating it with the talented animators

native geode
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True

prime sentinel
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but they aren't quite as charming to me at least

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mostly because I think the new games also want demons to look cool, which is admirable, but the old sprites are so goofy and memorable to me that nothing can really compete

autumn dawn
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i really don't mind eternal's direction with replicating the original games sprites

prime sentinel
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yeah it works

autumn dawn
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doot

native geode
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Arachnotrons in eternal almost made me break my tv and so did whiplashes

prime sentinel
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I really love the TDA imp that looks like the classic imp

prime sentinel
autumn dawn
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the classic hell knight was by far the least interesting

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due to obvious reasons

plain iron
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Yeah just a reskin

prime sentinel
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for sure, I'm so glad that they kept the Doom 3 design

native geode
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What was yalls opinion on doom 3

prime sentinel
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pretty great

autumn dawn
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i'm really excited

prime sentinel
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least favorite main line game, but they're all so good

native geode
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It was good when i played it

delicate grotto
autumn dawn
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remember kids: least favorite doesn't mean "i don't like it"

native geode
prime sentinel
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he's so funny too

plain iron
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Meatball :D

prime sentinel
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they managed to capture the goofyness of the OG well

autumn dawn
plain iron
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Meatball w arms running at you wyd

prime sentinel
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his little arms aaahhh

plain iron
delicate grotto
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Agreed. Honestly one of the best adapted demons. Looks sick as Hell too

native geode
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Do yall think my laptop can run the dark ages when it comes out mines a asus tuff gaming laptop

autumn dawn
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Hugo Martin said he wanted the Pain Elemental to look like a grumpy old man when he moves

prime sentinel
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what's in it?

native geode
autumn dawn
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oh no more pc statistics

prime sentinel
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I think the new animation team is so good

autumn dawn
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yeah the animation was extremely good, but i noticed some flaws in the lip syncing in the cutscene before the fight of Immora

plain iron
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I'm happy Emerson is still w id, his designs are very recognisable

autumn dawn
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in TAG P2

prime sentinel
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wonder if some lines were changed really late in development

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and they had to ship it

plain iron
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Wouldn't be surprised

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Wasn't TAG 2 rushed?

autumn dawn
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Valen was supposed to be killed by the Dark Lord

plain iron
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FUCK

autumn dawn
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but due to time constraints it was scrapped

plain iron
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WE MISSED OUT ON THAT

prime sentinel
plain iron
autumn dawn
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really really disappointed

plain iron
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Man that's so balls

autumn dawn
prime sentinel
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no

native geode
autumn dawn
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the betrayer

plain iron
prime sentinel
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it was because 2 DLCs were promised within a year of release or something

native geode
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Ah ok

autumn dawn
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the guy who gives Doomguy his gucci lantern

prime sentinel
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may be misremembering

delicate grotto
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Scope of TAG was a little too big for a DLC imo. Obviously the pandemic wasn’t foreseen so that definitely impacted development. Parts 1 and 2 were still a ton of fun though.

plain iron
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I wanted more intern content.

prime sentinel
delicate grotto
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Yeah I agree

prime sentinel
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like honestly TAG part 1 is my favorite part of the game

plain iron
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Why do we have no intern merch it's so sad

native geode
prime sentinel
plain iron
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We have a UAC hoodie, we should get a ARC hoodie

prime sentinel
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"ay yo you watch anthony fantano?"

autumn dawn
plain iron
delicate grotto
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Lmao

prime sentinel
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the audience for an intern funkopop is so small, but they do make really weird ass characters into funkos I guess :p

autumn dawn
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i wanted a cinematic of what earth has become after Hell's reign had ended, seeing all the humans rebuilding society, including the ARC

plain iron
prime sentinel
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I can only name 1 person who would buy an intern funko and they're talking to me right now

plain iron
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Hey, I know some more

autumn dawn
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hm who could it be

plain iron
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Giggles blinkscutely

native geode
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Doesn’t eternal take place around covid

prime sentinel
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"Don't mess with the intern fan community, there are DOZENS of us!"

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I'm messing around obviously, an intern funko would be really fucking funny though

delicate grotto
autumn dawn
native geode
plain iron
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I want a big Samuel funko or a mcfarlane figure or smthn

prime sentinel
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a Samuel Hayden figure would be dope

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give him the crucible

plain iron
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I want more merch other than doomguy and cacodemon please id software

lucid saffron
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samuel got a cool ass design

autumn dawn
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when are we seeing an official crossover of doomguy and isabelle from id software (WITHOUT SHIPPING, PLEASE)

lucid saffron
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his maykr form is pretty generic but thats still awsome because maykr design is peak

native geode
prime sentinel
plain iron
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A maykr wearing clothes is weird imo

lucid saffron
autumn dawn
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caco got enough merch give some other characters a time to shine

prime sentinel
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I would buy THE FUCK out of a classic imp sprite hoodie

delicate grotto
native geode
plain iron
autumn dawn
plain iron
native geode
autumn dawn
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i'm still saving up for a new jacket i'll probably buy on shopee and get it with a free rat to go

delicate grotto
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That’s sadly true. Only about 8-10 characters got figures

autumn dawn
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i was disappointed when the spectre wasn't a jello something figure

plain iron
delicate grotto
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Lol, guess that would fit

autumn dawn
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we need an actually transparent spectre figure

native geode
sleek ermine
sleek ermine
autumn dawn
prime sentinel
native geode
plain iron
prime sentinel
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or uh, squints at profile picture little dog?

autumn dawn
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oh

delicate grotto
prime sentinel
autumn dawn
prime sentinel
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very cute, is he yours?

autumn dawn
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yep and he's 8 months

prime sentinel
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aw

plain iron
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Aww pupper

autumn dawn
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a real demon at home

prime sentinel
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had 2 dogs, one recently passed in september

plain iron
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Awh :[

prime sentinel
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don't worry, he was 17, long happy life, toy poodle, little guy

native geode
prime sentinel
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he was very smart and knew he was annoying, we loved him dearly

plain iron
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I can't remember how old my kelpie/husky is

autumn dawn
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you know those people whose names are spelled "Keighley" or "Emileigh"?

plain iron
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I wanna say 7/8

autumn dawn
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my dog is named Coby

autumn dawn
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pronounced like Kobe Bryant

prime sentinel
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haha okay

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"Coby" lol

autumn dawn
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funny af

prime sentinel
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if I ever get another dog I want to name him Santino after the guy from the godfather

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would just be a funny dog name

autumn dawn
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we have two other dogs, aspins

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they're about a year old

prime sentinel
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(also the dog that passed was named Sonny, which is short for Santino)

prime sentinel
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puppies are fun, we haven't had any in many years

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here's an old ass picture of him lol

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(this is a joke photo we did not drive around with him like this)

plain iron
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Awh but he's a good boy

autumn dawn
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we named them after japanese names: the girl is Yuri, and the boy is "Yuchi," shortened variant of Yuichi

prime sentinel
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he was born in 2007 I bet bro was older than many user on this discord lmao

plain iron
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Lemme see if I can find photos of Bill and George

autumn dawn
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i'm [___] years older than him

prime sentinel
plain iron
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FUCK.

prime sentinel
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lmaooooo

autumn dawn
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𝓕𝓾𝓬𝓴

plain iron
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He's older than me by a few months 😭

prime sentinel
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I was born in 1999

autumn dawn
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2010, now that i feel comfortable

plain iron
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I was born in December lol

prime sentinel
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here's a more recent photo when he was older

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he's an ally lmao

plain iron
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Real and true.

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My old great Dane was lowkey a man hater

prime sentinel
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anyway, sorry for being off topic :p

prime sentinel
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his name was Hershey

autumn dawn
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かわいいですね

prime sentinel
plain iron
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Well Bill was a great Dane/mastiff, he was just very angry at bald men 💀

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And terrified of grass

delicate grotto
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Lmao

prime sentinel
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did it have a bad experience with a bald man?

prime sentinel
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thanks, he was a great dog

autumn dawn
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犬と猫はかわいい

prime sentinel
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inoperable cancer

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(heart murmur)

autumn dawn
plain iron
prime sentinel
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we knew he had it for years, just couldn't really do much about it

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anyway, sorry about going on about this haha

lucid saffron
plain iron
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I feel like doomguy would be a dog person

sleek ermine
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I would rather get a new Xbox Series X than upgrade my PC for TDA due to price constraints

prime sentinel
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I think Doomguy is a friend to all animals, personally

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he's like Snow White

plain iron
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But like. "Pitbulls are sweethearts don't demonise em" dog person I'm projecting

prime sentinel
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I've known many great pitbulls

plain iron
autumn dawn
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i've only realized that YourFriendJan's pfp and name is a homage to one of the lead devs of Roblox Pressure, my current fav game on Roblox

prime sentinel
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my mom's friend growing up was a dog groomer, always had animals at her house

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and she was close to my mom, and I was close to her son, so I was there a loooot

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and she was a hardcore dog person

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had turtles and cats too

autumn dawn
prime sentinel
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do you hate Isopods?

plain iron
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Nup I love em

prime sentinel
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you know he's probably not a fan of crabs because the demons in 2016 and eternal are very crab like

plain iron
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Rollie pollie bugs :D

autumn dawn
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isopods are neat

plain iron
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Would he have a blåhaj.

autumn dawn
prime sentinel
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idk if this has ever been confirmed but my theory is that they gave the demons bug like elements to make the player feel less bad for killing them

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in the modern games

plain iron
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Probably 😭

prime sentinel
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also you squish them like bugs

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so it only makes sense

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has starship troopers taught us NOTHING?

plain iron
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Though, something I've noticed is that divine things in doom are more buglike

prime sentinel
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well you squish them too

autumn dawn
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the tentacles of the maykrs

prime sentinel
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even demons that before were more like goats have bug like elements added to them

plain iron
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The maykr deacon's mouth reminds me of bug mandibles for some reason

prime sentinel
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the 2016 cyberdemon is a huge example

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or the barons

plain iron
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Yeah that's right

autumn dawn
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the 2016 cyber had two sets of eyes

prime sentinel
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they have a carapace

autumn dawn
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very tiny ones

plain iron
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I love designs like that

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Go multiple eyes go

prime sentinel
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the 2016 mancubus as well

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has huge bug vibes

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I definitely think the choice to make them more bug like was to make them less human and therefore more fun to kill

autumn dawn
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the carapace one, the hell knight, hell guards, and parasites had them

plain iron
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Davoth looks like a beetle

prime sentinel
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YEAH

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you're totally right, that's crazy

autumn dawn
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the mancubus had actual biological arm cannons

plain iron
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A RHINO/STAG BEETLE.

autumn dawn
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yeah he does

prime sentinel
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so I'm not crazy? the bug theory is reasonable?

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I've been thinking about this for years

plain iron
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Oh definitely

autumn dawn
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mmmm it's plausible

plain iron
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Bugs do hold a place in divinity too

prime sentinel
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I mean, the new designs for sure have bug like elements

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which is a common method for dehumanizing aliens and shit like that

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since bugs are very alien cretures to us, we tend to think they're gross (not everyone)

autumn dawn
prime sentinel
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and personally, I think mantises are adorable

autumn dawn
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they're also metal af

prime sentinel
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they have really funny faces

plain iron
autumn dawn
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Praying mantis

plain iron
autumn dawn
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ohhh

prime sentinel
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most people do not feel bad about killing bugs though, which is why, if you make a game like Doom where you are mercilessly killing things, it makes more sense to get inspiration from bugs rather than other animals

plain iron
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Also would the name of the maykr language be maykrean

prime sentinel
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no idea haha

autumn dawn
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i dunno, maybe they also spoke Argenta

plain iron
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It flows nicely imo

prime sentinel
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the old games didn't have this problem because of the low fidelity, in modern games you kinda have to make everything more believable (at least in the triple aaa space) so seeing a demon that looks more like a real animal might make it harder for some people to play the game, hence, bugs

plain iron
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The maykr language is entirely translatable in TAG btw :3

prime sentinel
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my brain is expanding

autumn dawn
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in the flashbacks doomguy had of his past, i think it's like how anime handles foreign people: they're speaking japanese so the viewer can understand, bbut in world wise, they're speaking the other language

prime sentinel
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maybe doomguy doesn't even speak english

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maybe his universe doesn't have english at all

plain iron
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Well, he did but the sentinels/maykrs said it was ugly and blunt

prime sentinel
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do you think he had to learn whatever language they speak on the current earth?

autumn dawn
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example: in JJBA part 5: an italian main character says to a japanese character "wow your italian is really good"

prime sentinel
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oh do they say its english? haha I don't remember

plain iron
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I think it does

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I'd check but I'm watching something rn

prime sentinel
autumn dawn
prime sentinel
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applies for english dubs of japanese stuff

prime sentinel
plain iron
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Samur totally learnt English frfr copium.

autumn dawn
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the khan maykr knows a lot

prime sentinel
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my theory is more fun, so I reject canon :p

plain iron
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Real

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I like making headcanons sometimes

autumn dawn
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they're fun and especially come in handy when you hate the ending of a story and need to cope

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glances angrily at Mike MacDee's Knee Deep in the Dead book

plain iron
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One of my favourite ones I've come up with was that Samur and doomguy had a decent relationship, and once Samuel kinda found out he was the seraphim, he kinda tried to mend the relationship

slim tulip
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Will my pc run DA in 1080 100fps?
Specs are i5-12400f/16gb ram/rx6600

plain iron
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Isn't a rx6600 the minimum card 😭

sleek ermine
slim tulip
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Yeah..

autumn dawn
plain iron
autumn dawn
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i estimate TDA to be like 120+ GB

sleek ermine
lucid saffron
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light

plain iron
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And isn't the minimum ram 32gb? Or am I batshit

sleek ermine
slim tulip
prime sentinel
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if you have 16 gigs of ram, you NEED to upgrade

autumn dawn
sleek ermine
slim tulip
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Who said bruh

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8 cores cpu doesn't mean that you can't launch the game or your pc will explode without it

autumn dawn
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i wonder if 2016 would make my current pc overheat and commit suicide

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sometimes i just wonder

plain iron
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There's a swell there

autumn dawn
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that's the armor

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that isn't fabric

autumn dawn
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we know how muscular doomguy is, seeing davoth

prime sentinel
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I doubt we're gonna see him naked so you can interpret it how you want haha

plain iron
prime sentinel
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unless 🤨

autumn dawn
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we did see him shirtless tho in the form of the dark lord

prime sentinel
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maybe he just has crazy obliques idk

autumn dawn
prime sentinel
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though, he appears to be a big fan of pizza...

plain iron
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I just prefer a fatish doomguy, it makes sense for him to be bigger that way, and still be muscular as shit

autumn dawn
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doomguy doesn't need to eat, drink, or sleep

autumn dawn
prime sentinel
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he doesn't? I didn't know this lore

plain iron
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I really don't want to see a shrinkwrapped doomguy 😭

prime sentinel
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did the divinity machine remove his need for food?

autumn dawn
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actually where did he get that pizza

plain iron
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He eats food, doesn't need it, just likes to

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Missing his humanity lol

autumn dawn
plain iron
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I wonder why he doesn't have a bed

prime sentinel
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doesn't sleep

autumn dawn
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the sarcophagus was where he napped for a while

plain iron
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Sleeping is wonderful everyone should enjoy sleeping

prime sentinel
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being awake for 24 full hours even if you don't have to sleep ever sounds hellish

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I wonder if he even CAN sleep

plain iron
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Fr

prime sentinel
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truly horrifying

plain iron
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Samuel watches him sleep </3

prime sentinel
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that's spooky

autumn dawn
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i'm saying "for a while" because his rage is still building up inside him

plain iron
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He's definitely passed out on that chair in his room tho

autumn dawn
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like potential energy

prime sentinel
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how did he get out of hell after 2016?

autumn dawn
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listening to....

plain iron
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Reading comic books until he passes out fr

autumn dawn
prime sentinel
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reading "the living end"

plain iron
prime sentinel
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oh do they never explain it?

plain iron
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Bega cheese...

prime sentinel
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we could get a full game just of that I guess :p why explain it

plain iron
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Lawn maykr...

prime sentinel
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clearly a lot happens between 2016 and Eternal we are not completely privy to

autumn dawn
# plain iron Vega maybe

no vega was mostly destroyed after 2016, and the new copy was still like 𝙷𝚎𝚕𝚕𝚘 𝚠𝚘𝚛𝚕𝚍!

plain iron
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I want more Samuel lore and clarification on what tf he did beforehand

prime sentinel
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they need to make a game where we have a sword fight with hayden...

autumn dawn
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STANDING HERE I REALIZE

prime sentinel
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we were promised it in 2016 dammit

plain iron
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That's what happens between eternal and TAG fr

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Sparring w Hayden's broken body

autumn dawn
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the longer the icon of sin is on earth.....

prime sentinel
#

god it sucks that they took that from us, I get that Eternal probably ended up the way it was from a plot perspective simply from the game design

#

I am certain the game design and levels came first then they wrote the story around it

autumn dawn
#

we deserved Into Sandy's City

prime sentinel
#

and I'm cool with that because the levels are awesome

#

but I wish we got the confrontation we were promised at the end of 2016

autumn dawn
#

we deserved that, and they took it away from us

plain iron
#

I want to see humam Samuel's degradation from cancer. It would be interesting on how id software would've portrayed it

prime sentinel
#

how tf they gonna put that in a doom game

#

lmao

plain iron
#

Idk I just want more old man hayden 😭

prime sentinel
#

Samuel Hayden, the Telltale series

plain iron
prime sentinel
#

well as far as we know, for most of Samuel Hayden's existence, possibly all of his human existence, the slayer was in a coffin

#

so it would be a bit difficult for them to portray human hayden

plain iron
#

Not even possibly, he got cancer around his 60/70s, and in 2016 he's over 130 years old

prime sentinel
#

yeah so its like, it would have to be a completely different game

#

that doesn't have the slayer in it

#

or maybe just flashbacks in cutscenes idk

plain iron
#

Ik it's me and my wishful thinking

prime sentinel
#

you know in portal 2 they have Cave Johnson's old recordings talk to you

#

maybe we could get old audio logs of Samuel Hayden

plain iron
#

That's a good idea.

#

I wanna see him struggle w reality [iirc his cancer was located in the sensory processing lobes]

autumn dawn
#

"i'm willing to take full responsibility for the sake of mankind"

prime sentinel
#

could be like that level with the lady in Eternal, but instead its like, an old UAC facility and its Hayden's audio logs throughout the final years of his human life

#

will have to wait till post TDA though lol

#

I have a feeling we will not be seeing our main man Sam in TDA

plain iron
#

Give human hayden random ass doomguy hallucinations he doesn't realise were memories from his time as samur

autumn dawn
#

would the tech be advanced enough to have holograms?

plain iron
prime sentinel
#

like they dig up the coffin and suddenly certain memories come flooding back

plain iron
prime sentinel
#

that would be sick

prime sentinel
autumn dawn
#

whst if instead of holograms we csn see him through the spheres of energy or something

prime sentinel
#

they can make goddamn laser guns

#

I totally think they can make holograms

#

maybe they're magic holograms lol

#

the concept art made me think the sentinels use a combination of science and magic

autumn dawn
#

oh yeah i forgot the divinity machine existed

plain iron
prime sentinel
#

when did they dig up the coffin?

#

how long was it there before the doom slayer got out?

plain iron
#

Olivia was there, and he was a robot when they got the coffin

prime sentinel
#

ah okay

autumn dawn
#

iirc sammy and olivia that bitch discovered the coffin together

prime sentinel
#

wasn't completely sure about that

autumn dawn
#

oh it was already said

plain iron
#

Olivia is under 50 at most imo

#

She just looks a bit older because disabled moment

autumn dawn
#

she wasn't disabled

prime sentinel
#

yeah she was, her legs were messed up right?

autumn dawn
#

she was just very robotty with her fit

plain iron
#

She had severe scoliosis 😭

autumn dawn
#

oh

#

guess i shouldn't speak (i never played 2016 or eternal)

prime sentinel
#

yeah I think they used argent to make her exoskeleton or something?

plain iron
#

Probably, it was experimental

prime sentinel
#

which explains why she's so obssessed with it

plain iron
#

She has a titanium alloy spine tho

#

Which is out of her skin

prime sentinel
#

the mastermind herself

plain iron
#

She also refuses pain medication, and I think that's totally reasonable

prime sentinel
#

Olivia is a great villain, I like that she is always one step ahead of you, like bowser or something haha

autumn dawn
#

btw did she transform into the spiderdemon, or was she sacrificed for it?

prime sentinel
#

I think she transformed into it

plain iron
#

The meds she would be put on would genuinely cloud her mind [she'd be put on opioid meds]

plain iron
prime sentinel
#

her mind is already clouded haha

#

by demonic forces

autumn dawn
#

a couple of hell steroids, and you turn into a spider

plain iron
#

I wanna hug Olivia lowkey

prime sentinel
#

with the BFG?

autumn dawn
#

i would.... to break her spine

prime sentinel
#

in the mouth?

plain iron
#

No :( I just wanna hug her

#

She's had a shit time

prime sentinel
#

that DOES NOT excuse what she did haha

plain iron
#

I'd also wanna hug most of the doom characters tho

autumn dawn
#

also Thomas: destroys a statue of her in Nekravol

plain iron
#

I wouldn't have the balls to talk to any one of em tho

#

I can't even talk on the phone

gentle cobalt
#

Olivia’s constant pain (self-chosen, she refused to take pain meds because she felt it clouded her mind) drove her to madness which is what let one of the Deags get to her

plain iron
#

I feel bad

prime sentinel
#

Olivia: Girlboss. Samuel Hayden: Gaslighting. The Khan Makyr: Gatekeeping.

#

I figured it out, guys

#

pack it up

autumn dawn
#

Doomslayer: on drugs

plain iron
#

Girlboss? She's a girl failure have you seen her office 😭

#

She eats like a 12 year old

prime sentinel
#

lol she's high ranking though

plain iron
#

She also probably knows french

autumn dawn
#

i don't fkin know what you're talkin about i don't know much cutscenes of 2016

prime sentinel
autumn dawn
plain iron
#

She's also ridiculously good at the doom equivalent of candy crush

prime sentinel
#

lol

autumn dawn
prime sentinel
#

I wonder what her Super Turbo Turkey Puncher 3 high score is...

plain iron
#

Oh she'd beat the slayer's ass at it

autumn dawn
#

E4M9 background

plain iron
#

Being disabled has a few perks, like the ability to lay in bed all day playing candy crush because if you move, your entire body is on fire

#

-Olivia probably

prime sentinel
#

lots of time to plan your evil soul harvesting plot

plain iron
#

That too.

autumn dawn
#

samuel builds a body for himself

#

wait no

plain iron
#

Olivia is so real for bedrotting

prime sentinel
#

well Samuel was important enough to be given a new body, I wonder if Olivia would have that luxury

plain iron
#

Definitely not, samuel would try though

prime sentinel
#

I wonder if Hayden was short when he was human, so he asked for his robot body to be made huge

#

and the tech guys shrugged and were like "alright, more room to put the tech into"

plain iron
#

He seems to have a [somewhat] soft spot for Olivia

prime sentinel
#

DAMN

plain iron
#

Awh man.

prime sentinel
#

check out the new bsky post from DOOM

plain iron
#

Bet bet

prime sentinel
#

its just the imp, its awesome

#

gorgeous model, goddamn

#

making his mouth constantly open: GOAT move

#

looks so awesome

autumn dawn
#

that's really badass

#

it looks so close to the original imp!!

#

also, with that body build, it looks more like a heavy demon rather than a fodder

delicate grotto
#

Every Doom game has incredible art direction, damn

grim cloud
#

Stalker, that means all classic imps are of the stalker variant

#

but it fires green ... i find that confusing

#

my 3 year old says its a arch vile, and he is upset im calling it a stalker

prime sentinel
#

my theory is that Imps will only fire counterable projectiles to introduce you to the concept

wooden acorn
#

Day 57 of 112

prime sentinel
#

@plain iron looking at the art book for the first time, the concept art for Eternal is so gorgeous, and its crazy how they translated a lot of this 1:1 into the game

plain iron
#

Yeah it's wonderful

prime sentinel
#

impressive work from the artist and the 3D artists at Id who brought it to life so accurately

plain iron
#

I actually own a copy and it's so worth it

plain iron
#

Mind flayers.

prime sentinel
#

look at this, is this not oddly similar to the floating monsters from TDA? just makyr instead of fleshy?

plain iron
#

I wouldn't be surprised if they used that design for it

plain iron
#

Definitely early on

#

That looks like Emerson's work

prime sentinel
#

wow

plain iron
#

I aspire to be able to draw like that one day

#

I'm relearning digital painting

prime sentinel
#

I rarely draw, I doodle in MSPaint sometimes

#

I don't have any Doom drawings so I can't post it hehe

plain iron
#

Awh draw a little doomguy scribble it's great

prime sentinel
#

maybe sometime

#

oooh yeah love this one, the Doom 64 logo is great!

#

imo Doom Eternal is tied with 3 for having the best hell

#

parts of it do remind me of Doom 3, here with those demon head statues with the lava falls coming out

#

that's very Doom 3 to me

#

just posted on the Doom bsky

waxen valley
#

Its literally the og imp

prime sentinel
native ridge
warm ibex
#

was really hoping to see them in Eternal and was fairly disappointed that they were left out. they look beautiful, absolute perfection. the pinnacle of hellspawn

prime sentinel
#

They’re beautiful, I agree

#

I like the new imp design a lot but something about this feels better, though, we will have the 2016/eternal imps with the hairy imps

#

And these are called imp stalkers, so I’m gonna guess the other ones will be called imp soldiers or something like that

warm ibex
#

I think it's cool that we have two very different types of one species on the battlefield now

#

I'm fairly certain that the Imp Stalkers will be lower evolutions of the Archviles

humble moon
#

don dak age

prime sentinel
#

Isn’t it a lore thing that the archvile is an evolved imp anyway?

#

In eternal

warm ibex
#

2016's Summoners are highly evolved modern Imps, I'm not sure if it ever says anything about the Archvile being an imp as well

#

but it seems pretty likely now. The Stalkers remind me of Eternal's Archvile

prime sentinel
#

Well I kinda think it might be a design language thing but we will see

#

The big claws are very archvile like though

humble moon
warm ibex
humble moon
#

oh and the legs of this imp remind me of the 2016 summoner

humble moon
prime sentinel
#

It’s hard to say, in a way it looks like the vile, but it also looks pretty much exactly how you would
Imagine the classic imp would look in the modern doom style

#

Sans the giant claws

humble moon
prime sentinel
#

Oh no

humble moon
prime sentinel
#

It looks the most like the OG imp imo

#

But I can see certain elements of the other 2, but is that intentional or is it just because it’s the same style?

humble moon
#

i don't know and this makes me insane

summer obsidian
#

no, i got a notification from shop that it was back and then checked my self

fleet spruce
prime sentinel
fleet spruce
#

yeah , it's awesome

wooden acorn
warm ibex
frail bloom
warm ibex
#

no worries, ping me anytime you want

half canopy
#

@warm ibex i'm a fan

warm ibex
#

hell yeah

torpid lynx
#

bro what?

sleek ermine
warm ibex
#

thank you! you guys seem pretty cool too

#

I lurk here a lot, seeing so many different opinions and theories is always interesting

sleek ermine
#

I saw you made a community post about preview gameplay 👀

#

Maybe my imagination

#

Prolly imagining

sleek ermine
#

Oh

#

So it wasn’t imagination

#

I find it funny how many YouTubers and stuff seem very busy and not very talkative and like that but when you get to talk to them they’re the absolute opposite

final dune
#

So any new news on doom the dark ages?

#

Holy balls is that John horde mode himself

warm ibex
final dune
#

Oo cool

sleek ermine
final dune
#

Cinematic promotion trailer for doom the dark ages when

slender night
warm ibex
#

That would be pretty sick

slender night
#

The Imp from D3 is my favorite design of it

warm ibex
#

It's certainly interesting! definitely don't hate it

#

I don't think D3 has any enemy designs that are just straight up bad

sleek ermine
#

Alright

slender night
#

A lot of them are ugly which is kind of the point, like I can see why someone doesn't like the Cacodemon design but come on it's for a horror-focused game

sleek ermine
#

So upgrading my PC is too expensive

#

I’ll just be getting a new XBOX (prolly if parents allow)

warm ibex
#

That's probably the way to go if you can't afford a solid PC at the moment

slender night
#

I'm going the same route but I'm not really in a hurry for it

#

I won't be buying TDA for like a year anyway so

sleek ermine
#

Basically, let’s say 1$ is 10 of my currency, and upgrading my PC would cost atleast 11000 of my currency

#

XBOX Series X is 6000 ish

#

So uh going cheaper is going better in this case right

slender night
#

You can just get a Series S if you don't care about physical gaming, it's cheaper

sleek ermine
#

Is there a major difference

slender night
#

Graphically there is one but it's not HUGE, it has 50% less memory though

sleek ermine
#

512 GB-1 TB huh

slender night
#

You can always pick up an external drive

sleek ermine
#

Wow uh yeah Series S is half the price

#

Hmmm

final dune
#

Hopefully they're gonna have more time to work on the dlc too unlike doom eternal

sleek ermine
#

If I go with Series S I save like half a year of saving

#

And my parents would probably allow it too

#

But

#

Actually nvm

#

Are the newer Xbox consoles capable of raytracing

warm ibex
#

I believe so

slender night
#

They are, but in the end that doesn't really matter

sleek ermine
#

Because doom the dark ages

slender night
#

Console games are optimized for... well, the console

sleek ermine
#

Yup it’s on Series X|S

#

When I put it in the opposite order it could get weird so fixed it

slender night
#

Plus DOOM is under Microsoft, would be silly to have your biggest game of 2025 not accessible on your current hardware

sleek ermine
#

:true:

#

Alright

#

I’ll be uh

#

Spinning wheel

#

Wow

#

S won

#

I’ll be honest I was a bit skeptical about Series S when it has just about enough SSD storage (minimum) for TDA and only up to 1440p with MAYBE 4K depending on the situation or smth

slender night
sleek ermine
feral cargo
#

Do we know if ID plans to reveal more gameplay before release?

hard thistle
#

I think that's a given

#

They had some youtubers play a little bit of it recently so they're probably getting ready for a big marketing push

frail bloom
dire pike
#

its so sad that mick gordon isnt making the sound track but the looks of the new sound track is actually kinda good tho

spare panther
#

im ngl i kinda like finishing moves stuff more than micks
dont get me wrong mick was amazing but theres just something about the new soundtrack that makes me love it

mystic barn
#

The ambient piece heard in the Imp Stalker showcase is (almost certainly) from Infernal Chasm. It likely follows the Coutdown to Death callback in the intro of the song, before bridging into the main chorus (heard at 0:35 in Finishing Move's soundtrack teaser). The ticking clock motif is probably also a reference to Countdown to Death

obsidian shard
#

52 Days

frail bloom
formal root
#

its the original

#

Holy shit, its the original guy

#

AND IT HAS A DOMINANT ARM THAT ITS USED TO SPECIFICALLY SHOOT THE FIREBALLS

mystic barn
# frail bloom Awesome analysis as always, I hope you can make the doom ost reference vid when ...

I definitely want to, and in fact, I've tried a couple of times. The issue is getting struck by copyright. Under Sections 47 and 47AA of The Copyright Act, 1968 (which is applicable to me as I'm Australian) and Bethesda's fan video policy, I'm well within my rights to do what I do. Unfortunately, that doesn't prevent someone from claiming to be the copyright holder and striking my uploads

frail bloom
#

Well atleast I can hear your mixes when the game releases

mystic barn
#

It's possible, but it'll be a little ways down the road

frail bloom
formal root
#

GOD ITS

#

UGHHH

#

THE DETAILS, THE FUCKING DETAILS LIKE THAT

#

ughh I really wish we get to see more demons have their original looking designs

formal root
#

THATS RIGHT

frail bloom
#

BUT I WANNA SEE MORE

#

MORE

formal root
#

You think the barons or knights will have it?

frail bloom
#

Gotta be

formal root
#

also

#

a thing I like about that dark ages its how the demons seem more sentient

#

THEY HAVE ARMOR AND WEAPONS?

#

LIKE

formal root
#

YEAH

#

they’re like

“oh yeah, this is an axe…I can kill with it”

frail bloom
#

ABSOLUTE UNIT

formal root
#

IT HAS WINGS

#

AND IT HAS LIKE AN ATTACK INVOLVING THOSE WINGS FROM WHAT I’VE HEARD?

#

I NEED THIS GAME ALREADY

frail bloom
#

IMMA DOOOOM EITHER WAY

formal root
#

god this game

#

AND AND THE MECH

#

THE FACT THAT THE MECH AND DRAGON ARE GONNA BE LIKE USED NOT JUST ONCE

frail bloom
#

I better fight some 4 legged titans

formal root
#

the fact that you can quite literally

#

like go pacific rim on the titans

frail bloom
plain iron
#

Awh hell yeah

#

Serrat is a good girl fr

frail bloom
#

Whatever bonding is in doom

formal root
#

“WE LOVE SERRAT”

we all say in unison

frail bloom
#

WE LOVE SERRAT

formal root
frail bloom
#

Yeah they might be preparing us for some sad stuff

plain iron
#

She probably died

formal root
#

god, that would fuck doomguy even more

#

its pretty much a second daisy

autumn dawn
#

whaddid i miss

formal root
#

dark ages hyping

frail bloom
formal root
#

the original imps returned

plain iron
#

Here's my prediction, the chonkyr kills serrat.

formal root
#

I feel

#

that since like

frail bloom
formal root
#

this is the start of like the war with hell

frail bloom
#

The one with the black cloak

autumn dawn
#

who's serrat?

plain iron
formal root
frail bloom
autumn dawn
#

oh yeah

frail bloom
#

With the scar and stuff

plain iron
#

I don't know what she actually is, she's a bit too different from other normal wintherins

autumn dawn
frail bloom
autumn dawn
#

or here if you can

plain iron
#

Similar to a demonic wintherin though

autumn dawn
#

is she a dragon/wintherin?

formal root
#

cybernetic dragon

plain iron
#

Dragons in doom aren't called dragons, typically they're called wintherins

autumn dawn
#

yeah ik

plain iron
#

All the ones we've seen so far

autumn dawn
#

maledict

formal root
autumn dawn
#

buuuuuut thats a different universe

plain iron
#

She doesn't look like a sentinel wintherin imo

autumn dawn
formal root
#

since aerial fights will be common

plain iron
formal root
#

they might throw demonic warships and demonic wintherins at us

autumn dawn
#

more cacodemon, pain elemental, and demon wintherin fights

#

like honestly i'd think that we'll be riding serrat more to invade the demon castles

vagrant path
#

and I've heard there's gonna be tanks in actual combat gameplay.

autumn dawn
#

yeah but i don't think our tiny dragon and tiny doomguy hands could destroy an entire hell ship

formal root
#

Serrat gets to destroy the turrets in the outside of the warships

vagrant path
formal root
#

and then we get into the inside and finish the job

autumn dawn
#

i was kinda speakiny from outside so that makes sense

plain iron
#

fuck yeah.

#

I hope we get to customise small things on serrat

#

Like rdr style

autumn dawn
#

skins

#

even tho it aint multiplayer

#

also on our atlan

plain iron
#

No I mean smaller things

#

The saddle style and the like

autumn dawn
#

smaller things like what

ebon shale
#

I will never understand where the point is in having skins like this in a single player game lmao

autumn dawn
#

well you wouldn't really be able to see that during gameplay cuz if you'd look then you'd see doomguy's ass on it

frail bloom
autumn dawn
frail bloom
plain iron
#

Like in rdr2, the horse stays the same colour n shit, but you can change smaller things like saddle style, stirrups and the like

autumn dawn
frail bloom
autumn dawn
#

woah that's really grainy but i appreciate the effort

ebon shale
autumn dawn
#

she looks like she's gonna be a major character

#

like maybe a tritagonist

ebon shale
#

With respect: why?

frail bloom
plain iron
#

It's the same w me n warframe

ebon shale
#

I'm not complaining at least you are funding one of my favourite dev studios. Still an odd monetisation scheme

plain iron
#

I mean, at least it's not mandatory

plain iron
#

You can work for most of the skins, which is good imo

autumn dawn
#

i find it cool that they accurately translated the classic doomguy armor into modern style

ebon shale
#

Default skin still looks better in most scenes imho

plain iron
#

His arm has scars where that demon grabbed him

autumn dawn
#

though i wanted the box cover demon in the game

#

or atleast make an official physical appearance in TDA

plain iron
#

He looks a bit too funky for that 😭

#

They're in the codex though

frail bloom
frail bloom
autumn dawn
#

some also had long snake tongues

steady otter
#

guys how much is doom the dark ages gonna be is it 70 euros as usuall or what

plain iron
#

Yeah roughly

frail bloom
#

Wait I just realized

#

There are modern imps in the backround of the imp stalker video

#

In the lastshot where he shoots the fireball

autumn dawn
#

hol on whut

frail bloom
#

Yeah look in the backround you can recognize their scoliosis posture

#

Lemme send it in screenshot

half canopy
#

the new imp looks like if it was some sort of distant cousin of the archvile

autumn dawn
#

actually that might be the case

warm ibex
#

that's what we were discussing earlier!

frail bloom
#

Look

autumn dawn
#

speaking of, do we know if archies will return in this game?

warm ibex
#

I think that's a given

autumn dawn
#

i....... don't see them.

warm ibex
#

and you don't need to! it's just that obvious

frail bloom
#

Whaa noo y

autumn dawn
half canopy
#

maybe there will be normal imps and this will be our new archie

frail bloom
#

Im onto something

warm ibex
#

(supposedly) biggest enemy roster to date, every other iconic franchise staple is coming back. of course we'll see the archvile

autumn dawn
frail bloom
#

Sentinel chaingunner would be cool

frail bloom
#

Yeah some day

autumn dawn
#

samir dude look in screenshots

#

i kinda see it but maybe that's the mushrooms

prime sentinel
#

the modern imps are grey and hairy, we already know they're in the game

grizzled umbra
#

Crazy they put the Stream Protector in Dark Ages

plain iron
plain iron
#

Hey wait that looks like the stone imps

autumn dawn
#

oh they still look like the 2016/eternal imps

warm ibex
prime sentinel
#

I'm not sure how much I agree with the archie thing, pretty sure they're seperate species

#

I think the superficial comparisons might be more just because of the way demons are designed in the new games

grizzled umbra
warm ibex
#

I don't think they do lol

prime sentinel
#

for the most part, I think the Stalker Imp resembles the classic imp the most

plain iron
autumn dawn
#

i'm not sure if i like the color

plain iron
#

I like purple

autumn dawn
#

it's kinda bluisu grey (note my slight colorblindness)

#

oh wait that is purple

grizzled umbra
prime sentinel
#

either way, the Stalker Imp might be my favorite demon design we've seen for TDA so far, it captures the classic sprite perfectly in the modern style

autumn dawn
#

yeah same

#

what about the mancubus?

#

he's got a huge ass backpack now in TDA

prime sentinel
#

Mancubus is very cool too

#

all the designs so far are lit

warm ibex
#

bro is going camping

autumn dawn
#

that's what i'm saying my guy

plain iron
#

Lowkey camping sounds great rn

prime sentinel
#

I wonder what the Tyrant/Tyrant equivilant will look like

obsidian shard
warm ibex
#

oh hey man

autumn dawn
#

shit

prime sentinel
#

Doom 64 is Hugo's favorite seemingly, so idk maybe the color is a call back, but he's not transluscent

#

maybe that's where the idea of having 2 imps comes from

plain iron
autumn dawn
#

i'm leaving this server out of 恥ずかしい

grizzled umbra
#

Cacos have had a weird evolution, the new one looks more like DOOM 3 cacos now

autumn dawn
autumn dawn
obsidian shard
obsidian shard
grizzled umbra
prime sentinel
#

I think its interesting that the vile in Eternal has knee spikes like the classic imp does, but the classic archvile has no such spikes

autumn dawn
#

doom 3 did a unique thing about the caco, even tho many people don't like it for straying too far

obsidian shard
#

i want the DOOM 64 Pain Elemental

plain iron
#

The classic archvile looks like a elongated white dude 😭

grizzled umbra
autumn dawn
#

i used to bandwagon on the hate against it, but i grew to like it

frail bloom
autumn dawn
warm ibex
prime sentinel
plain iron
autumn dawn
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i'm usually unlucky, it takes 4-5 rockets to drop him

grizzled umbra
prime sentinel
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(for reference, the mancubus consistently takes 3 in classic doom)

autumn dawn
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what's creatine