the-dark-ages

[arctic pagoda]

You think for a boss we'll get the marauder In his prime?

[valid sapphire]

Don't you remember the doom eternal trailer

That shit was slower than a snail and look how eternal turned out

[arctic pagoda]

Doom is fast as fluff boy

[delicate grotto]

Doom 2016’s was even worse lol

[valid sapphire]

Yeah

[half umbra]

I actually think that the dark ages trailers look faster than 2016 and eternal trailers. May not be faster than eternal is now but it could still be fast in its own regard

The shield and possible sprint button may carry it too which is nice

[ebon shale]

Yeah about that sprint button, I've heard that a few times now, but have we actually seen it in action?

[arctic pagoda]

A couple

It's more of a dash though

[past moon]

HALO

HI

ALA

[ebon shale]

Also about the scene 9:11 (lmao) into the direct presentation where we deflect a lost soul, is it only me or does it look like doomguy is sliding and then has more momentum going out of that slide?

[verbal bison]

Why is there no glory kill? Without it, the brutality of modern doom has decreased. I would love to see those monsters scream, their organs ripped apart, and killed and crushed. I hope the others are nice too

[inner wigeon]

You don’t know that

They can keep the brutality without glory kills if they do enough

[verbal bison]

how?

[storm shadow]

We see a Mancubus lose its whole left side with one super shotgun blast, seems pretty brutal imo

[shut whale]

Since there r gonna be cutscenes, do u believe this game will be long and also there won't be any codexes

[ebon shale]

I think it will be longer than eternal

[shut whale]

I hope so also the devs need to give enemies more attacks because to be honest I expected more from the marauder

[wheat sigil]

Yea, that was honestly one of the bigger issues with the marauder, he was very limited in his attacks

[half umbra]

Yes in some parts of the trailer you can see the dash lines/speed boost effect. Similar to the speed boost after GK rune in eternal

[half umbra]

In eternal the glory kills seem quick and effective like the slayer really has been doing this for a long time. In the dark ages he’s bashing and kicking showing the same brutality but like a powerhouse

[chrome gulch]

lowk never been so excited for a game in my life

[half umbra]

I think it makes sense in the context of the story

[wheat sigil]

It makes even more sense in a gameplay perspective

[half umbra]

That too

[wheat sigil]

Interactive stuff > watching cutscene

Also this new system could very well allow for cool melee combos

[half umbra]

All the games feel like a progression of Doom guys powers and story to me, we see him still destroy demons but in different ways

[unique rivet]

When is this game out??

[wheat sigil]

15th may

[unique rivet]

Thank you 😊

[hard thistle]

2026

[zealous crag]

i have a question : do you still have the 5 difficulty options ? or you are making it entirely yourself ? ( i love the nithgmare difficulty and i would be sad to lose this option )

[shut whale]

U need to watch direct development Marty explains it

[plucky plinth]

They changed it into the dynamic ones

[arctic pagoda]

Toom dhe ark dges

[plucky plinth]

And I am way more than happy

[arctic pagoda]

Ye

[strong cave]

What i saw there should be open world mode

With something like "stand as long as you can" mode

[shut whale]

It is open world

[strong cave]

Good

Just sad i dont have 70$

But what i have to admit is that this is one from small number of games that really worth that price

[pliant coral]

More like open area

[strong cave]

Will there be 90% off month after release ??

[pliant coral]

More likely wait for Black Friday deals for such things

[winter idol]

no, probably not even a 10% sale 6 months after release

[hard thistle]

We're just slinging untrue statements huh

[winter idol]

its not open world

the levels are open ended

similar to argent facility from doom 2016

[mint estuary]

is there a public playtest for this by any chance? got a link to one in steam messages, assuming its a scam but just wanted to check out of curiosity

[half umbra]

I wouldn’t recommend pressing that link, besides the game comes out in a few months so don’t take the risk

[mint estuary]

dont worry I dont even have the storage lol, wont for a long time

[winter idol]

there wont be a play test, id software has yet to do one

[rain glen]

Question what's the situation with dark ages dlss. Because that's the biggest concern considering you know the final fantasy rebirth pc port it's bugs were Because of dlss. Is that going to kinda effect dooms performance i hope they don't have dlss issues and optimisation with the rtx stuff

[winter idol]

how are we supposed to know how it performs with dlss before launch?

[rain glen]

Good point.

[livid verge]

Just preordered the collectors edition.

[sonic turret]

And yet the PC master race continue to march on. 🤷

[mint estuary]

I dont even wanna make my pc suffer with this bruh

[rain glen]

Yeah I know im just worried about doom that's all.

[brazen heron]

16GB VRAM for high settings FUCK NO

Nvidia being the greedy monopoly they are has 500 dollars+ cards to get 16 GB of VRAM.
Plus consoles don't have that either,their regular RAM is 16GB,yeah it is that dumb.

[eternal basin]

How much will the DLC be

[plucky plinth]

Expect maybe either around or higher than both TAG Parts

[languid rampart]

Since the designs of certain demons (i.e., imps and lost souls) take heavy influence from their classic counterparts, I hope barons do too, if they are to appear at all throughout the campaign.

Essentially, just take the gladiator, remove its armor and weapons, and leave it out in the sun for a little while.

[south pilot]

i mean 2016 barons were practically classic barons just faster

[languid rampart]

My wish may have been granted
#screenshots message

[grim cloud]

i hope we get both classic barons and hell knights. green blooded too but i guess id just likes red

[hard thistle]

I can definitely see them going for the classic barons this time seeing as every super heavy demon theyve shown so far has a pretty slow moveset

Eternal’s barons move too fast for tda’s gameplay

[grim cloud]

give us the classic baron cover demon. Here is the sprite version #classic-doom-maps-mods message

it acts more like a imp/baron hybrid in the megawad ill never finish

[hard thistle]

So excited bro it comes out 3 days before my birthday

I swear this is like the 20th time ive seen somebody say tda comes out on/near their birthday

[hard thistle]

So considerate for them to give us all a early birthday gift

[sonic turret]

I mean you still have to pay for it.

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-taxes-money-skinner-finger-thing-gif-16245332

[hard thistle]

LMFAO

[languid rampart]

Thank you id software for releasing the game 53 days before my birthday!

[fresh lintel]

i mean.. it does come out a week after my birthday..

[hard thistle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1334054884533866529/1335435769426214984/IMG_0332.png?ex=67a028fa&is=679ed77a&hm=469cf5e79c25402229f8e895f009862525bae4e3193c7b7a5d82e1442cf8287e&

[fresh lintel]

lol

[plain iron]

Man mine was December nothing is releasing on my birthday

[fresh lintel]

really? no game releases this year for December?.. that doesn't make sense

[plain iron]

None I'm aware or looking for

Maybe silksong

[fresh lintel]

man i remember when game companies would rush development to meet a christmas deadline and the game would end up like.. really shitty XD

[plain iron]

I mean, it makes money

But silksong has been in development for like 7 years

Mm indie game devs my beloved

3 blokes just.. slaving away

[fresh lintel]

Indie games are pretty cool, New Blood makes pretty good games

[plain iron]

They're the publishers, not the devs

[fresh lintel]

oh

[plucky plinth]

Tiny Glade and Stardew Valley best Indie games

[fresh lintel]

My gaming schedule is pretty good so far, I got Destiny 2 launching a new episode this Tuesday, so i've got that to play while waiting for the Dark Ages to release

[simple mist]

Turbo overkill ultrakill dusk

[fresh lintel]

yep

[simple mist]

Would also recommend roboquest too,if you wanted a good indie shooter.

[fresh lintel]

maybe again my gaming schedule is pretty good, idk if i need anymore games XD especially since my steam library is already big as it is

[simple mist]

I'm running into the opposite issue; I'm actually running out of games to play.

[plain iron]

Explodes

[simple mist]

That's crazy ik

[jade hamlet]

I love how doom has united the masses

[plain iron]

Play postal or smthn

It's a shit game but boy is it fun

[simple mist]

Yeah been also playing sf6

[fresh lintel]

DOOM always unites people, because in the end, we all have the same mission, Rip and Tear.. until it is done!

also i was rewatching the trailer for DOOM: The Dark Ages and i think some demons are reimagining's of the demon designs from DOOM 4

[plain iron]

In the doom universe, if someone is worried over trivial shit like race, gender and sexuality, they got their priorities fucked up, focus on surviving not hating

Survive, don't hate

[topaz hound]

Some ppl just natural born haters

[fresh lintel]

well.. except for demons.. feel free to hate the demons

[vapid lodge]

I really want to understand why people keep complaining about TDA's new stuff, such as:

• No Glory Kills: Back when DOOM 2016 launched, people kept complaining about Glory Kills as being forced animations and you have no control over them, just a cool execution. Now people are complaining about have a more flexible close combat system and that the Glory Kills are gone...

• Mechs / Atlans: I've seen comments around social media/youtube where they say that the mechs feel empty, only a gimmick and keep mentioning that this is similar to Pacific Rim - It's not like Hugo Martin worked on the Mech design for Pacific Rim

• The pace of the game: "Game is slower, you are not as fast as before, no meathook etc." - So these people want DOOM Eternal 2? If TDA had a very similar feel to Eternal, then they would have complained about this too.

I understand that people always find something to complain about, but this seems like they have no will to learn the reason why these new mechanics were added

[fresh lintel]

well TDA has no complaints for me, i'm sure it'll be an amazing experience and be able to stand on it's own

[vapid lodge]

Neither from me, I will buy the game on every platform

[fresh lintel]

i only preordered on pc, not enough money for me to get it on my xbox,

[ashen robin]

there are valid critisicims and then theres whining

and unfortunately there are a lot of whiners online

[vapid lodge]

Oh well

[ashen robin]

idk if you know but there were people actually whining that ragnarok reused animations

and it was basically a DLC

[vapid lodge]

Yeah I played both games

I know what you mean

[ashen robin]

as much as i hate the current state of gaming , there are a good amount of "chuds" out there whose opinions are as worthless as themselves

[woven jolt]

gameplay is typically slowed down for trailers. also, Hugo Martin literally said "heavy, strong, but STILL FAST"

[simple mist]

Yep. I love it how all 3 Nu doom games are each unique experiences.

[vapid lodge]

Yeah also true

[sonic turret]

I prefer footage that sped up personally, I always remember seeing Sonic & Knuckles on this knee TV advert with Fezhead from Pirate Radio.

It had Knuckles climbing across the overhead bars really quickly and I was like ooooh.

I just hope DA's not too fast that yall's PCs can't handle it l.

[languid rampart]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-think-the-rock-meme-gif-24810091

[odd shore]

103 days

[dusky grail]

I'm looking forward to the dragon. The trailer showing the Godzilla execution was amazing.

[past loom]

You think in TDA we will finally meet the wretch?

The one who made the suit from doom 2016

[jovial urchin]

Hopefully

[zenith briar]

I think there’s a group of people that creates an air of false drama or criticism

Haven’t heard a single player make a big deal about doom that Hugo hasn’t already hit on

Besides you know he’s already seen every complaint in the book after tag 1 and tag 2

[burnt panther]

I swear too I think the YouTube commentators and game reviewers are teaming up I swear

[zenith briar]

I think TDA will have a lot of air traffic

Learned his lesson from tag 1 and 2

The sliders were a pretty neat way to circumvent the eternal difficulty chuds

That need constant stimulation through harder difficulty

And help the casual crowd out too

[hard thistle]

Real bro they were definitely thinking of us

[grave cave]

is every doom fan in may? im always seeing this lmao

plus cant wait to see Hugos stream the Dark Age!! its gonna be fun

[tidal bloom]

thats some crazy attention to detail

[grave cave]

cant wait!

[acoustic cosmos]

anyone can help me settle an argument haha? I cant for the life of me figure out what this demon is from the key art. I posted it in #screenshots

[delicate grotto]

Are we talking about the imp-looking creatures or the demon in the foreground?

[acoustic cosmos]

with the tubings

[delicate grotto]

It’s likely the cyber-knight creature that’s been showcased a few times already. Unsure what the name might be, it’s a new demon. Could be a primitive version of the Dread Knight? I’ll send a picture of what I mean in #screenshots

[craggy osprey]

Can’t wait for this “hell yeah simulator” to drop

[acoustic cosmos]

are u the guy i was arguing with on reddit haha?

[delicate grotto]

Yeah but it could’ve been some sort of prototype design? Never know. Having discussed the picture more now though, it definitely looks like the foot soldiers we see in the background.

[acoustic cosmos]

oh no guess not lol. just seemed kinda similar for some reason. sorry about that

yeah i was arguing about a different topic dw about it haha

[delicate grotto]

Given the tubings we see, it’s the same kind of technology used with the Dread Knights in Eternal. If ID really wanted to bring back that enemy variant they could make up some sort of case that augments have been tested on Hell Knights before. Just something to throw out there. I don’t really think that’s the case, especially after comparing the pictures in #screenshots

[tribal lagoon]

Dread Knights where created by the UAC so it wouldn't make sense for them to be here with there enhancements

[delicate grotto]

I suppose. Seemed similar upon first glance. The armored shoulders, helmet and tubings gave me that impression.

[delicate grotto]

Very true, but given how far this game’s lore can stretch itself I could see ID retconning a way for them to be in the game. Don’t think they are, but, they could definitely do it lol. Especially with how jumbled things get with having interconnected universes, like two UACs. One from the Slayer’s past, and one from 2016-Eternal.

You good man? I’m just having some fun throwing around stupid theories. Anything’s possible with Doom’s lore, that’s kind of the whole fun with it.

[delicate grotto]

Well, anyways. These demon designs look incredible. Favorite so far is the Revenant. Metal as Hell.
As far as new demons go, that Gladiator-esque creature looks pretty awesome too. Some people say it’s an Aggadon Hunter, I can definitely see the resemblance. Would be sick if so.

[acoustic cosmos]

Yeah exactly my thoughts, from the back it definitely does resemble a dread knight in some way. Although now i know thats most likely not the case, it's still interesting to just discuss it haha

[topaz hound]

Yall think dark ages will be coming out for switch 2?

[half umbra]

If it does then that would be something

[placid saffron]

it has forced raytracing

[topaz hound]

Damn

[south pilot]

pray it runs on steam dec

[placid saffron]

it won't

[south pilot]

so far with the different things i have heard mixed opinions

like idc how it runs just it runs

i had someome go through the stuff with a steamdec and the required he said it would

[placid saffron]

it'll run about as well as indiana jones on it
aka not really

[south pilot]

idc

as long as it turns on

am happy

[vestal dagger]

It's not known what SM structure the Switch 2's GPU uses. Nor what compromises could be made for the game to be put on the Switch 2. Assume no and you won't be disappointed but I would not assert it as fact.

[placid saffron]

do you genuinely think there is a chance the switch 2 will be ray tracing compatible

[topaz hound]

Yea

If not there's a chance it will get dlss

[upbeat oracle]

do you kill demons in this game

[placid saffron]

maybe, but that won't make it run a game that can only be run with raytracing

[vestal dagger]

ID has only stated so far the necessity for a GPU that can support fixed function RT acceleration
Nvidia has had a capable SM for this for the last 6 years.
They may just gut that component like they did for lower format turing

they may not, stating as fact is unwise

[topaz hound]

Is ps5 and Xbox able to ray trace

[vestal dagger]

Technically, I don't imagine the base PS5/Series S/X implementations are very efficient per-SM being RDNA2 based

[placid saffron]

yes, but those aren't really handheld either

[topaz hound]

It's probably not even gonna run on my Laptop that had a tiny bit of issues with eternal

Given I'm running on medium I think

Actually I'm on mostly high

[half umbra]

Let’s hope

[vestal dagger]

If I may humour some information that isn't hard confirmed officially: It's sounding like the Switch 2 may have a 12 SM Ampere GPU optically shrunk to 5nm to fit with the rest of the SOC. To use the Steam Deck as a point of reference, the SOC in the Switch 1 has the same TDP as the Steam Deck at max. If the Switch 2's SOC runs at the same TDP as both with a wider GPU and more power efficient process than the Deck, I have a hard time imagining it wouldn't be considerably faster than the Deck. The Ampere SM is a lot more performant than an RDNA2 CU for fixed function RT acceleration, the gulf of a 12 SM 5nm Ampere gpu and an 8 CU 7/6nm RDNA2 gpu should further grow for RT performance.

Personally I think if TDA can be playable at all on the Steam Deck, it would only be a matter of ID's (or highers') interest if a Switch 2 port happens. This is assuming the Switch 2 is a 5nm APU with a 12 SM Ampere GPU on board, which is not confirmed.

Too many unknowns to say or take anything for sure at the moment, it's just my take

Mind you if it does end up being 8nm it could still work lol, wider GPUs tend to be able to do more than a narrower GPU with the same power, which could offset the already minor efficiency deficit between 8nm Ampere and 7nm RDNA2 per SM/CU

[hard thistle]

Just sacraficed the 30 i was originally saving for TDA premium for dark souls 3

Will doom the dark ages be able to run on Nintendo switch or switch 2?

[half umbra]

Definitely not the switch but possibly a low chance on the switch 2

[hard thistle]

Dang. Then how tf did doom 2016 and doom eternal run find at 30 fps? It they both run butter on Nintendo switch.

[half umbra]

Games nowadays are being pushed to newer consoles, the switch, ps4 and Xbox one are outdated

For example it’s required to run the dark ages on pc with ray tracing

[hard thistle]

Oh. So Nintendo is pretty much now trying to adjust to nowadays?

[half umbra]

Hopefully

[hard thistle]

Ok.

[half umbra]

I hear the switch 2 is as strong as a normal ps4 btw

Something like that

[hard thistle]

Let's hope Nintendo doesn't turn their new Nintendo into Nintendo airlines😂

[haughty idol]

What does this mean

I understand now

The path in my mind has opened and all has been revealed to me

[slate relic]

its like a ps4 pro but in the nintendo switch u can have the nvidia dlss4 so u can get 4x more fps

[slate relic]

im like a 95% sure that the switch 2 will be able to run it

[slate relic]

the work on the console optimization was too good to be true

[eternal basin]

Crazy story so from the xbox app there was a free download for doom the dark ages i downloaded it it sayed im too early i have to wait for the microsoft store to release it so when the game comes out do i get to play it for free?

[slate relic]

i dont think so

[slate relic]

i think it will then ask for a key

[slender night]

Is this Game Pass by chance

[timid latch]

How much RAM I will need to play Dark Ages

[gilded lake]

minimum is 16 gb, recommended is 32 gb

[eternal basin]

Nah without

[slender night]

Interesting

[eternal basin]

I cant send ss

Want to see in dm?

[slate relic]

o hell nah😭

i wanna buy the 200$ pack but ill have to play in mid/bad graphs?

[eternal basin]

What kind of key

[knotty bane]

no u literally disrespect them

[slate relic]

a digital license

[eternal basin]

Ohh alr ty

[slate relic]

u got gamepass?

[eternal basin]

Nah

Expired long time ago

[slate relic]

then idk

[eternal basin]

It was like 336mb

Afer i cliked it gave me you too early message

[timid latch]

Hell nah, that’s a lot

I only have 8

[wheat ocean]

I got the pre-release version of the game, but I wanted to ask if I could later on down the line purchase the premium edition of the game if I find it worth it?

[gilded lake]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/628250664841117696/1332083183973302294/image.png?ex=67a07ce3&is=679f2b63&hm=6380065d38f134822a16c84cc048db62976d557e9b4858fe2672e3ac4a64ffa3&

[slate relic]

dont tell me that

[gilded lake]

it's on the steam page itself

[slate relic]

[gilded lake]

i mean i can't run it either if it makes you feel better

[timid latch]

[arctic pagoda]

Doomnation

The doot

[wheat ocean]

I am worthy of the game

howwever, I was trying to upgrade my laptop to 32GB ram, but I'm trying to see what else I'd need to upgrade to match my zest

so I'm not just buying to sticks to hell

[slate relic]

i mean, i can run it but imma have to play on low/medium graphs a game i paid 200$ for

i got 16 gb of ram and 4060

[arctic pagoda]

ROM com

[slender night]

Yes

[tribal lagoon]

I need to get more RAM 😭

[timid latch]

X2

[arctic pagoda]

Hi

[dusty canopy]

Will doom dark ages be available on my Inspiron 530?

[eternal basin]

By your bio i know why you play doom😭

[plucky ingot]

[arctic pagoda]

Will the dark ages be available on the KFConsole???

[slate relic]

what the hell is that

https://tenor.com/view/kfconsole-console-cooler-master-kfc-gif-25993183

what is this

😭

[tame tiger]

perfection

[eternal basin]

A console where you can also make fried chicken😭

[woven jolt]

apparently, ray tracing will be also used for gameplay, pretty interesting

[dull rain]

Future

[hard thistle]

Is there any new news on dtda?

[arctic pagoda]

Yes

I dunno if it's a spoiler, but you play as an unnamed super soldier dubbed the doom slayer

[hard thistle]

Bro we will be ripping and tearing!!! 💪

[arctic pagoda]

Ye

Larger maps, bigger demons, cute dominating marine commander who trained doom guy

[hard thistle]

Hot sweaty muscular demons

[arctic pagoda]

Some demons are rockin that dad bod tho

[shut whale]

Does ayone here think we will get more demon warriors

[hard thistle]

I wonder if they will bring back the marauder.

Movie 🤏📸

[neon perch]

You know you're working hard, when it feels like there isn't enough time of day.

[vapid lodge]

we will definitely see the sentinel soldiers before they were corrupted, but I think I've seen the marauder illustrated in the codex when the civil war was explained

i dont know if we will see them again, I hope we do

[woven jolt]

maybe a very early version of them,

[hard thistle]

Especially with the sawshield. I love Parry systems

[shut whale]

The Doom Slayer should have a robotic companion like the one from Doom 3

[sharp jungle]

Was it a companion, really? I mean, it didn't last with him throughout the entire game (from what I remember)

[vapid lodge]

Im kinda tired of time skips, I hope we will get enough closure to understand the mysteries that 2016 and Eternal left us.

Especially now that they said the focus was only on the campaign... so

[empty breach]

i can barely run it 🥲

[empty breach]

in some form-- THE LORE REQUIRES IT

marauder doom guy kissing canon

nothing more metal than dejected buff yaoi

[vapid lodge]

I really dislike that ray tracing is forced because I wished to have known if TDA would have had more players than Eternal ever had.

Not many people have the latest stuff

Steam charts will tell us anyway

[shut whale]

Honestly I hope the bosses r a real challenge because I honestly eternal bosses were ok but not great. I expected more attacks from the Dark Lord and Khan Mayk.

[arctic pagoda]

Hi

Well you know we're gonna get a rock em sock em titan boss

Probably a boss with the dragon

[hard thistle]

That was so stupid i mouthed the words

Let me introduce you to the shiledsaw

[shut whale]

I hope the devs give the demon more attacks instead of simple attacks

[hard thistle]

Block

Throw

Parry

Deflect

[neon perch]

I hope they understand a big part of OG Doom's combat was monsters telegraphing attacks, be it sound cue or pre-fire frames. So far all I've seen is enemies are lethargic and their projectiles have comically slow travel time.

Like, I too can take Eternal and slow down every projectile by about 75% and end up with something not too dissimilar to TDA.

[half plaza]

Hurt Me Plenty difficulty setting

That's about as slow as they travel in classic Doom on that setting

[arctic pagoda]

If the games too slow just, increase the speed

Max everything up to 300%

[half plaza]

I'm sure the speed was slowed a lot to show the game off

Like, if you watch Doom Eternal's gameplay showcases it was albeit pretty darn slow

[arctic pagoda]

Ye

[half plaza]

The thing is right i'm sure it won't feel as literally fast but i think it's gonna get real intense

If they're going for that classic Doom gameplay i'm betting that third act is gonna feel like fuckin Plutonia

[wooden acorn]

Day 11 of 112

[faint shore]

I wonder if the eternal suit will be available in the dark ages

[hard thistle]

Nutting to dark ages

[hollow sandal]

All from one input, it's contextual

[hard thistle]

• everything else

[shut whale]

Honestly I can go without the cape, like in the Incredibles the woman says "No Capes"

[hard thistle]

I like to think the shield’s addition is ID’s way of letting casuals reflect the pain they went through with marauders

[hard thistle]

"Here you can be the marauder if you want"

[shadow storm]

haha yeah

pre-ordered the collector's bundle! SO EXCITED!

[swift roost]

When will we know the running status of the-dark-ages on steam deck?

[placid saffron]

Do you know how indiana jones ran on steam deck?

[south pilot]

i honestly think people dont care how it runs

all i care abt is if it runs at all

[woven jolt]

I noticed in TDA direct showcase, at 3:32, we see the red circle on the enemy. it has 4 arrows on it, 1 green, 3 red. I wonder if that's how we'll switch between shield abilities, maybe not

[spare mist]

I hope the crucible back but with new combat

[hard thistle]

How would that amount to anything

When it literally slices demons apart with one hit

[woven jolt]

well, the melee meter is only 3 uses, it could be interesting to use

[hard thistle]

but then they’d have to retcon it into not actually being able to slice demons in half with one strike

To accomodate for a revamped combat system

[grave cave]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-the-dark-ages-doom-shotgun-pump-action-shotgun-john-doom-gif-3598943377017080987

[eternal basin]

Have they completed the doing of the game

[hard thistle]

I will never stop doing doom the dark ages

[languid rampart]

gives off the same energy

https://tenor.com/view/gun-db-shotgun-gif-21597283

[hard thistle]

You can feel the intimacy between him and the super shotgun with the way he spins it

[plain iron]

Is that a fucking lever action on a double barrel shotgun?

[river lotus]

Hell yeah brother

[plain iron]

I ain't no gun expert but how tf does that work

[river lotus]

I'm guessing after each shot he pumps the lever and cycles two more shot gun shells

Into the barrel

Basically it's a double barrel lever action shotgun

[river lotus]

Also it looks cool so who are we to judge

[plain iron]

Well then it's gonna be mag fed and it don't got a magazine 😭

[hard thistle]

Hugo martins philosophy

[river lotus]

Yeah his philosophy is the best

[plain iron]

Truly, bethesda gun design
(Ik its not bethesda, but id is owned by bethesda so eh)

[languid rampart]

This is Doom we're talking about, this entire franchise is built upon blowing up the brains of demons

[river lotus]

Also there will probably be a chamber on the bottom of it where you put your shells in

DOOM IS BACK BOYS

[plain iron]

Then what's the point of the lever action if we're just gonna hand feed it 😭

[river lotus]

So what happens is you feed the shells in and after each shot he does the lever so that he can eject the cases and let the new shells in

[plain iron]

How tedious

[river lotus]

Not really

[plain iron]

Truly bethesda gun design

[river lotus]

It's no more tedious than a pump shotgun

[plain iron]

Well it's not the pump it's the SSG

The pump action is single barreled

[river lotus]

Yes but it is a similar firing mechanism

[plain iron]

Double barrels eject and reload out the top

[vagrant path]

Wait wtf where is this from

[grave cave]

no idea i saw it in the gif and im confused where but i love it

[hard thistle]

Twitter

[river lotus]

Yes but you can clearly see in the trailer that when he pulls the lever the shotgun shells eject

And new ones replace them

Just like how when you pump a pump action shotgun it ejects the shotgun cases and the a new goes in the chamber

[hard thistle]

what type of gameplay could the next doom game have without replicating the previous games

Or making it feel far off from doom

[plucky plinth]

They already did with Eternal in my eyes

Honestly, I don’t see anything worthwhile they could add to the series without straying

Either they go back to some of their other IPs, or just keep adding game after game to a franchise that needs a rest

[plucky plinth]

It doesn’t need to be, but the ammo count would be low as hell judging by the length of the weapon

Shit, wrong ping

Meant for @plain iron

Yet again, sorry Rake

[plain iron]

Hrmm

[plucky plinth]

Though, the strain on the loading mechanism would be pretty bad

On a design that’s already not as effective as say, a pump action design

[woven jolt]

a way combining doom dark ages enemy density with doom eternal's speed

[fluid vine]

It was on Bethesdas Twitter page

[swift roost]

I just search the video,it was about 30fps😢,they are same require (doom and indiana)

[graceful lion]

no

if the game was finished it would be released

[wheat cliff]

it may run decently but you'll get like 20 minutes playtime cuz the game will DRAIN the battery

I played HiFi rush on my steam deck and I legit only get an hour of playtime before my steam deck reaches like 15%

[graceful lion]

trying to run more and more performance-requiring games is gonna turn the steam deck into a steam dock 🔥

[hexed geyser]

Not sure I would try to run TDA on a Steam Deck. It may theoretically be possible, but that doesn't mean it'll work well.

[green hamlet]

I have both consoles. I’m just trying to figure out if Xbox or PlayStation 5 would be better because Xbox is known for its graphics, but PlayStation is known for its smooth performance, but every game is different. I would like to pre-order the collectors edition but since it’s $200 and I’m not sure how much they have in stock. I wanted to try to make a decision.

[empty furnace]

plasma rifle comeback?

[slender night]

What do you mean comeback? It never left

[plucky plinth]

there hasn't been a good plasma since Doom 3 imo

yes me, glazing Doom 3

first and maybe last time you'll see that lol

[winter idol]

the plasma in dark ages looks great, the double barrel one (if it is plasma)

[plucky plinth]

oh yeah it does

but I do also count sounds in my ratings as a major part of the weapon

[winter idol]

oh 100%

sound design is like 60%

[plucky plinth]

Doom 3 had a fucking perfect sound for the plasma

[winter idol]

the rapid fire nailgun mod just sounds exactly like the heavy cannon from eternal

[plucky plinth]

so kinda dogshit?

[winter idol]

i liked the sound of it

overall i think what we heard sounds alot better than even eternals gun sounds

i love the chirping sound of the accelerator

[ebon shale]

Yeah the ssg sounds absolutely monstrous

Really wanna hear the rocket launcher

[empty furnace]

eternal plasma rifle was buns

[empty furnace]

ehh 2016 had a good plasma rifle its just the sfx weren’t as good

[slender night]

Oh I guess you meant comeback in the sense of quality

[empty furnace]

the design was good but its damage was awful

[plucky plinth]

it had a better look than 2016's

[wheat sigil]

Eternal's plasma rifle is a very versatile and useful weapon due to its mods

[placid saffron]

lol, lmfao

plasma was the 1 weapon where both mods sucked 😭

[wheat sigil]

hard disagree

only way the mods would suck is by assuming perfect gameplay (not dying at all) from the player, which is just not possible

[placid saffron]

no in regular play

mbeam is basically always just worse then pb switching

it haas a very small niche as a finisher against a (super)heavy but then you'd need to combo them to basically 1 hp

[wheat sigil]

it's literally a free stun on any enemy, which could stop them from advancing (useful in tight encounters), or stop them from attacking, and if you're in closer range, that is very useful

[placid saffron]

heatblast you have to precharge with ballista ammo, fairly tricky to properly use because of that alone

[placid saffron]

damage also falters

shieldbash falters

like 3 billion things in this game falters demons

mbeam is among the slower and least damaging of those

[wheat sigil]

then you'd have to be in the demons, and you lose a dash, that's just a net-negative in the long run

[placid saffron]

oh no, not a dash whilst i have literal godmode

[wheat sigil]

damage falters are neat, but they're only soft falters

[placid saffron]

yeah and you should probably have killed what you're facing after

[empty furnace]

eh
the heat blast is just a combo extender and its basically an overpriced fodder killer
the microwave beam could be used for disabling shields quicker or destroying spirits, but thats about it

[placid saffron]

and if you pb switch instead of mbeam switching you get to not slow down so the rest of the arena won't kill you

[empty furnace]

does the plasma rifle require 25 shots to get a full heatblast charge?

[wheat sigil]

just not possible with some enemies

[wheat sigil]

60

[wheat sigil]

if you're close to them
and in my opinion, essentially the main application of mwb is stopping an enemy from doing an attack when you see them initate one

many falters just aren't fast enough

[placid saffron]

then mbeam probably isn't either

[empty furnace]

thats way too expensive

[placid saffron]

you don't charge it when you need all your ballista ammo, sometimes you don''t even fully charge it

[wheat sigil]

no not really, the only real uses for plasma ammo is ballista boosting and dblade, and you don't really need to charge it fully

[wheat sigil]

a combo extender is good, but that's not all it is

I use it to get enemies away from me

it's instant CC on any demon threatening to you

[half umbra]

I used to sleep on the plasma rifle too, y’all need to try it. It’s a sleeper pick

[wheat sigil]

and you can charge it in down-time, and then do a yeet blast for double damage

[placid saffron]

i agree, people who are wide awake won't pick it

[half umbra]

Trust. One day you’ll try it then you’ll be like “nah this is nice”

[placid saffron]

no because i found pre-loading it to be tedious and mbeam itself just was never better then an alternative

[wheat sigil]

many of the best players utilize it though

[half umbra]

Heatblast sure but that beam overall can be used in so many ways it’s almost busted

One second stun in between combos and you line yourself in front of multiple demons, you just get time to think and or recharge equipment

[waxen glacier]

101 days

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/431265631866716186/846166318155431936/image0.gif

[placid saffron]

yeah or you pb swap and instead kill them faster and don't lose maneuverability to the other demons in the arena

[half umbra]

😂 fair enough

[waxen glacier]

plasma rifle is my fav gun tbh

it's so underutilized

the heatblast and microwave beam are so good it just takes practice (mainly for the microwave beam cuz heat blast is easy to use)

[half umbra]

I think an instance of you being in the air about to get shot at then it’ll be seen as useful. That stun can help out a lot although you could just move away from fire

[wheat sigil]

the TTK difference is marginal, and what maneuverability do you lose by doing a quick stun😭

[placid saffron]

the one mbeam takes away? 😭

[wheat sigil]

yeah, when you just do a quick stun

[placid saffron]

you still lose a bit of speed of the initiation

[wheat sigil]

no one is going to hold it down

[placid saffron]

unless you use it as a finisher yeah

[half umbra]

It’s a very fun gun, I actually see it as one of the few guns with both the mods being useful

[waxen glacier]

the mbeam is really helpful when I'm fighting whiplashes

[half umbra]

Yes, prowlers too

[waxen glacier]

omg YES

[empty furnace]

imo ballista is the only gun where i can’t decide which mod is better

[placid saffron]

arbalest is pretty clearly just worse

[half umbra]

Call me crazy but I’m not that big of a fan of its mods like that

[placid saffron]

arbalest's best feature is setting up a fast-blade

[half umbra]

That’s unfortunate since that’s the only mod on the balista I use

[empty furnace]

eh its really good against hordes of cacodemons (like in sgnml)

[placid saffron]

because they tend to line themselves up dblade is actually better then lol

[waxen glacier]

airbalest works well on cacos and pain elementals from my experience

destroyer balde is alr but I usually only use it as a last resort

[half umbra]

The balista is strong but the Dblade slows down movement SO much that I just can’t get down with it

[waxen glacier]

I forgot u can shoot smaller blades from it tho

[empty furnace]

for pain elementals i use the lob

[placid saffron]

doubledblade tech

[half umbra]

That’s why I like it too

[empty furnace]

how do i do that

[placid saffron]

i forgot

[waxen glacier]

I find using the auto mod on the shotgun helpful for mowing down frozen demons

idk if anyone else here does that

I remember a few years back people HATED the auto mod lol

[half umbra]

Full auto is sick too

[waxen glacier]

micro missiles is another underrated one

especially because of the damage boost

[wheat sigil]

uhm no😭
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9-QdOxsrpk

[placid saffron]

i'm moving the goalpost but what's even the point in using mbeam in that scenario

[half umbra]

That tyrant is taking it like champ

[south pilot]

shreds the doom hunter.

[slate relic]

yeah but for doom hunter u have the 1 shot combo

[wheat sigil]

fire dblade, keep holding down m2, open the weapon wheel, switch from sticky bomb to full auto with your mod swap key (only works with the main key, if you have 2 binds for it), release weapon wheel, bam

[waxen glacier]

YES

[wheat sigil]

it works with half the mods in the game, but which except sticky bomb

[half umbra]

Micro Missiles + remote det is a fantastic combo

[wheat sigil]

same reason as why you would ballista boost in the air, disrupt enemy attacks/confuse them

[empty furnace]

ima try that

[placid saffron]

ok but why not just shoot more considering it's only 1 enemy

[wheat sigil]

To not take damage, and the damage you're losing out on is 1 pb shot😭

[hard thistle]

I wonder how the game's gonna run on my rtx 3070 laptop

[ebon shale]

I think that meets the minimum specs

[hard thistle]

yeah but I wonder if it can run it well lol

[waxen glacier]

https://tenor.com/view/overheat-computer-explosion-boom-spark-gif-17323916

/j

[hard thistle]

there's always dlss too so yeah (especially since 4 is actually good)

[ebon shale]

I dont think the 30 series gets dlss 4

[raven mica]

Seeing as this is the third modern doom game, could we categorize doom as trilogies? Classic Trilogy being 1, 2, and 64, Modern Trilogy being The Dark Ages, 2016, and Eternal.

[willow briar]

The in between being 3, 3 bfg edition, and 3 resurrection of evil XD

Y’all the hype is real tho for the new one

The slightly more open world gameplay instead of the super linear gameplay of the others, combined with being there fighting before everything goes to shit and everyone dies, is going to be so goood and it comes out right next to my birthday so I’m getting that shi for free

[graceful lion]

well, if you like frames, yes, not if you like clear/sharp graphics

[grim cloud]

i have early access which i hate having because i wont be able to play until thursday

or actually wed night, but still

Going to be a long three work days

[hard thistle]

I hope somebody gets the new doom running on a pregnancy test.

Or a tesla

[arctic pagoda]

Hey

They did

Oh new doom

[wooden ibex]

Dose anyone know if the new collectors Edition have a option for digital?

[stiff fox]

The code is going to come on the red key card

So yeah digital

[wooden ibex]

Is that confirmed?

[stiff fox]

99% sure. Microsoft has done it for Indiana Jones and Starfield collectors editions (using collectors items in their steelbooks that have codes)

[slender night]

I wouldn't be so sure personally

[digital horizon]

ufrrgr

What?

[slender night]

The promo image for the collector's edition has Xbox Series X listed instead of X|S, meaning that it'll be disc only

Can you just shut the fuck up

Nobody is gonna be dealing with your AI generated responses, stop wasting your time

[hard thistle]

😭 honestly like fr

[digital horizon]

a

Well it's not like theres things there trying to fucking murder you

[stiff fox]

I'm just going off the recent collectors trend. I personally think the code will be on the card

[slender night]

I hope there'll be a digital option aswell. Time will tell

[digital horizon]

I'm not a ghast

[river fern]

HEHEHEHEHEHEH

Fucking DESTROYED

[slender night]

Who even finds this funny man, it was just plain weird

[river fern]

Me because they make it easy for me to ban them

[slender night]

Yes okay outside of that factor

[arctic pagoda]

Hi

[grim cloud]

well i hope tis digital, i dont think there is a disc drive in my xbox

[summer summit]

I don't think there's gonna be a digital version of the collector's edition.

Unless you're asking for a steelbook case that has nothing in it.

[grim cloud]

That is giong to be a problem for people who have no disc drive

[arctic pagoda]

There is, if you're on PC

[grim cloud]

I got the Xbox Series X CE

[arctic pagoda]

Then na, you get physical

[grim cloud]

that i can't install?

that would be a big oversight

[summer summit]

Not unless you have the disc drive.

[grim cloud]

tahts stupid, should be a way to play or else ll have to return my xbox

[summer summit]

At least they're including the game on the disc unlike the collector's editions of God of War Ragnarok and Spider-Man 2 that doesn't have the game on the disc.

[flint ocean]

im tempted to buy the premuim edition of dark ages

but $100 is a lot

but also ill get the dlc for free later on when it comes out

[fierce steeple]

Just a question, are you on PlayStation?

[flint ocean]

steam

[fierce steeple]

Ah

Idk if it’s the same for steam but ps has a rewards system that you can redeem points for wallet balance so I’m using that to bring the premium price down to standard price as 100 is a bit much for me

[arctic pagoda]

Wow

[flint ocean]

damn lucky

wish i could use my steam points to buy stuff

[arctic pagoda]

Bethesda store gives points

[flint ocean]

i kinda want the collectors edition but damn $200 is a lot

[arctic pagoda]

It's fair for a collectors edition

Lot of physical goodies

[fierce steeple]

I was hoping the collectors edition would have the wearable helmet again but sadly it doesn’t

[arctic pagoda]

Sadly

[flint ocean]

true

[grim cloud]

sending email to customer service regarding the disc in CE, see if i get a response

if disc only, ill have to cancel it and maybe buy teh statue on ebay later in life

[arctic pagoda]

They did confirm CE has a disc

[grim cloud]

where?

[arctic pagoda]

On the Bethesda store

[grim cloud]

Yep, but it doesnt say Digital Code included

[flint ocean]

yeah xbox and playstation have a physical disc and pc has a code

[arctic pagoda]

Sorry Vega, I was trying to help

[grim cloud]

Ok so I will NOT be able top play the game i bought, great

[flint ocean]

why not?

[arctic pagoda]

What copy did you buy?

[grim cloud]

Xbox Series S or X i dont rememberj

[arctic pagoda]

Xbox series x is digital only?

[grim cloud]

i am not home right now to check, but i think its dig only

[arctic pagoda]

You can check on the tracking order on the store

I see

[flint ocean]

series X says disc, so if you cant take disc then i guess yours is a series S

[arctic pagoda]

Yea it says series x is disc included

Here's praying you got the right one

But hey, you can sell or trade the game to someone

[grim cloud]

flip that shit

[arctic pagoda]

Ye

[flint ocean]

cant wait to pilot the massive mech

[grim cloud]

i do have a extra copy of DE, that is already worth nearly three times but i want to give it to my kids

[flint ocean]

worth nearly three times?

[nimble zenith]

No

You can buy a digital version of X its color is white

its like a whole 100 dollars cheaper iirc

But i would rather buy the disc version because you can find tons of games cheaper on disc versions aswell

[sterile summit]

What are the chances this runs on the Steam Deck?

I say 25% chance it runs at all, and if it does then another 25% chance that it runs over 30FPS consistently

Hoping I don't have to buy another console to play it

[south pilot]

it will

i bet 100% it can run

But not very well

[sterile summit]

Honestly if Spiderman 2 somehow manages to run then anything is possible

A good performing Steam Deck version would be almost as impressive as Doom Eternal on Switch and Doom on SNES

[south pilot]

idk how it does run tho without legs

[zealous crag]

If this doesnt run on my laptop from 2022 with only i5 and 3070 I might be angry

[grim cloud]

Newish info i found from january on a playstation blog of all places. What i found most interesting

"At this point in the Doom Universe timeline, this game being a prequel – we start at the beginning of the Slayer’s time with the Sentinels. He is the outlander, blessed with power by the Sentinel’s gods known as the Maykrs. Our subjugated hero stands now as the superweapon in a medieval war against the armies of hell."-Hugo

can't post links so you will have to find it yourself, hahahahha

[tropic raft]

Interesting...I like where this story is going.

[grim cloud]

So if it takes place at the begninning of the time with the sentinels, this is long before the civiil war and much longer before he gets entombed

I dont see how they sqeeze a century of war into a 20 hour game

[tropic raft]

I think the main villian will have something to do with doom slayers past in some way. Maybe he was the one who killed doom guy's family?

[grim cloud]

Do we know the main villian? Is it taht hell horned guy?

the demons in dark ages are from a past hell, classic doom demons and dark lords either dont exists yet or have no recollection of future events. Multiverse mumbo jumbo

Unless a demon follwed the slayer through whatever portal he went through when he arrived in argenta. That would be interesting

[obsidian shard]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-slayer-doom-the-dark-ages-romance-jet-halal-gif-5814091598986569255

[obsidian shard]

HES JUMPING OUT OF AN ATLAN

[hard thistle]

The dlc will most likely timeskip to those events

[grim cloud]

or we get more doom games. Already hinted at that being a possiblibity. Maybe the civil war is a MP spin off. Who knows

[shut whale]

Xbox showcase is coming this month on 24. Donut believe we will get gameplay of Dark Ages

[obsidian shard]

we already go 10 minutes from the dev direct

[shut whale]

Yeah but I'm saying actual gameplay like 10 minutes during showcase

[hard thistle]

I heard the event will focus on indie games

[pliant coral]

Focuses on Indie games, with a random 10 minutes of DOOM

[shut whale]

Well it would be good if we get gameplay before the release which will be in 3 months

[hard thistle]

You really that hungry huh

Theyve shown off more than they need to at the direct

The next trailer will probably come out next month

[grim cloud]

i do hope we get no commentary gameplay soon though. I dont think this month

[hard thistle]

Two months before game release

[grim cloud]

3.5

months

[hard thistle]

Doom eternal trailer 2 came out around january

2 month gap

I imagine theyd do the same for the next tda trailer

[grim cloud]

oh i see, but we still got gameplay, mars core stuff stuff esp

the game has already changed a lot, since i think the showcase we have seen is pretty old (it was most of the same footage shown at QC)

[shut whale]

No it should be this month during the showcase, there won't be any showcases during the next 3 months for Xbox

[grim cloud]

well we dont know their marketing approach, anything is possible. Id say we been more in the "dark" about TDA game than the last two releases by this point

[junior spire]

i mean it needs at leats a 2060 so the gpu is good

and a tenth gen processor

so idk if the i5 is tenth gen

[hard thistle]

When will there be any new announcements with dtda?

[grim cloud]

marketing hype prob begins march if i had to guess, but it really isn't predictible

[wooden acorn]

Day 12 of 112

[grim cloud]

tommorrow marks 100 days i think

and been doing 1+ doom level per day. I should be on Doom 64 at this point, but i still have catching up to do.

[sinful lantern]

I have a question is the new doom about the marine that fought the resurrector?

[shut whale]

I noticed during the development direct when hugo was talking about upgrades, the shield saw has new upgrades and design coming soon. R we gonna get new shield designs during campaign.

[winter idol]

no one knows but probably not considering there will be slayer skins that change what the shield looks like

[zenith briar]

Doom slayer feels more and more like military space fantasy Link from Legend of Zelda every day

[tribal lagoon]

the marine that fought the Ressurector was still Doomguy

The Lost Levels take place between Doom 64 and DOOM 2016

though now I guess its more accurate to say between Doom 64 and DOOM: The Dark Ages

[grim cloud]

which is a century or more. Lots of history there with doom guy up until his entombment. Maybe even a entire age of time

[hollow pelican]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1245533461981302849/1336187418381914162/youtube-9tKFnsv2OsU.mp4?ex=67a2e501&is=67a19381&hm=8d10844d20741f2cf29ec8b9aa88c05d21f2c5073301af599b36a53668b4d9fd&

[raven mica]

Pre ordered collector's edition :D

So what's our idea on what points the game will cover

[carmine kayak]

Same i spent basically all my money that i saved up on it

[raven mica]

Some time before the sentinels turn on the maykrs but after the slayer's induction into the sentinel army, seeing as the overview seems to show the siege of taras nabad

I would think it'll cover the conflict of the sentinels and the maykrs after they start syphoning argent energy, will the game end with the trap in nekrovol as a halo reach esque final level in which you simply survive as long as possible?

Then the dlc would be what happens from that point to when the hell priests seal away the slayer

[hard thistle]

Dark Lords exist. TDA takes place in the First Age, thus there is a Dark Lord of the First Age.

I suspect this is the horned, humanoid demon we're seeing in TDA's trailer stuff.

[honest copper]

I don't know how I feel about the armor in dark ages since we see what his armor looked like in eternal with the night sentinel armor set so maybe at the end of the game he will get that armor

[vagrant path]

Azhrak I think his name is

the official name got leaked like the khan makyr did back for doom eternal

[sterile sage]

How likely is it that DARK AGES has a meta score of 95 or higher?

[vagrant path]

Bro who cares

meta score don't mean shit lmao

[sterile sage]

Wouldn't it be better to go high score?

Like BD3.

[vagrant path]

not really

if it's smth like ign it doesn't matter

if you wanna gauge the quality of a game look at reviews from actual people

[sterile sage]

I'm a big fan of this game, and I also bought deluxe, so I hope the meta score is good.

[half umbra]

When you play the game the only thing that matters is how much you like it. But I understand you want it to do well in terms of reviews

[past loom]

The night sentinels watching some angry dumbass from earth strafe run and wall hump his way thru the hordes of hell

[mossy juniper]

[slim nexus]

@wooden acorn Day 13 of 112

[spare mist]

My profile photo

[eternal basin]

If some didnt notice the zombies, imps, and cyber-zombies grew hair

[waxen glacier]

100 days

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/431265631866716186/846166318155431936/image0.gif

[grim cloud]

Dark Lord of the First lord has been reffered to as the Serpent.

100 DAYS!!!!

[woven whale]

If I get 140fps on eternal will I be able to run dark ages

[simple mist]

Reviews havent meant anything to me,since the mario bros movie

[hard thistle]

The Great Serpent is only said to have been a demon that existed in the First Age, not necessarily a Dark Lord. The wording of the Codex suggests the Serpent was rebelling, and then defeated by the Guardian.

[grim cloud]

i dont remembe rwhere i found that info, but i remember codex specifically mentioning Serpent as the first, guardian as the second, Chimera as the 3rd, and nameless as the 4th

[plain iron]

Who is the guardian? That's a new one I haven't heard

[hard thistle]

This is definitely not Codex stuff - it's likely fan info someone was touting as fact. The Nameless One is Davoth, not the Dark Lord of the Fourth Age; that would be the Aranea Imperatrix, whom we kill in 2016.

[plain iron]

That's such a banger name for the spider mastermind 😭

[hard thistle]

The only things we know regarding Dark Lord identities are:

• OG: Davoth / The Nameless One
• Dark Lord 1: Unknown
• Dark Lord 2: Unknown
• Dark Lord 3: Unknown
• Dark Lord 4: Aranea Imperatrix

[plain iron]

Very edible

[hard thistle]

The Codex simply says the Guardian was an entity who defeated the Great Serpent which led to its Hell Knights being cast into the Arenas of Hell.
Doom 3 specifically has a boss named the Guardian of Hell, whose old age has rendered it blind. I like to think this is the same entity as the Guardian mentioned in 2016's Codex.

[plain iron]

Ahh, I probably haven't unlocked that part of the codex, and doom 3 lore is too vague for me to sink my teeth in. But that sounds hella neat, thanks man :]

[hard thistle]

If you're looking for the specific entry I'm referencing, it's Hell Knight II in Doom 2016.

[plain iron]

Bet bet, time to open 2016 up

I do like the little nuggets of irrelevant lore the codex entries drop, it's neat world building

I hope we have something similar to it in TDA so it's more concise compared to doom 3 just gesturing at things sometimes

[plain iron]

Whelp my dumbass doesn't have it but I needed a excuse to play more 2016 anyways

[half umbra]

I believe dark ages has a ray tracing requirement

[tulip viper]

yo what demon are yall most excited for?

[half umbra]

All the hard ones; mostly heavy demons but anything that requires parrying to fight

[tulip viper]

Agreed, dark ages looks like its gonna have some heavy hitters

I immediately think of that giant mechanical spider creature we saw in the trailer

[half umbra]

I’ve been wondering if the tyrants are going to fly since they have wings now

Could be just a design choice but who knows

[shut whale]

Does anyone have a prediction as to when we will see like 15 min gameplay of dark ages

[winter idol]

probably not until april

[shut whale]

@winter idol hmm 🤔 maybe

[winter idol]

theres really no big game show from now until pax east which i think is like 1 week before release

[flint ocean]

whats the deal with glory kills in dark ages, ive heard something about them but i dont fully understand what the deal is

[winter idol]

they are basically gone, you 1 hit punch or smash enemies now when you glory kill them as not to break the pace of combat

[flint ocean]

but the glory kills are fun

i enjoy the brutal carnage

[winter idol]

not after 10000s of times

[flint ocean]

only issue i have with them is they get very repetitive

ive seen the same 2 cacodemon glory kills like 40 times

[copper torrent]

The glory kill is now a dedicated game mechanic instead of canned animations

[winter idol]

they did break the pace of combat, and with 100+ enemies on screen you cant have traditional longer animated glory kills

[flint ocean]

they do sorta break the flow but they gave me a moment of time to decide on my next move based on the enemies that surround me

[flint ocean]

wdym?

[winter idol]

they are basically speeding up your actions in dark ages but keeping you on the ground

so you chain attacks between enimies and kill alot faster

you can now 1 hit punch fodder i believe

[flint ocean]

cool

ill need to watch the newest trailer

[copper torrent]

Did you check out the gameplay? This game has a whole new melee system

[wooden acorn]

Ye

[flint ocean]

only video ive seen was the first one that demonstrated the skull gun and the chainshield

but there was a new one recently wasnt there

[silver oriole]

Isnt this game taking more after classic doom with its combat?

[half umbra]

Instead of you pressing the GK button, you get to string the attacks on your own depending on the color of the circle indicator around the enemy

[flint ocean]

i have no clue what that means i need to see the latest trailer

[winter idol]

it is in the fact that there is little to no jumping and enemy projectiles are slow enough for you to dodge them

[flint ocean]

aww man but i really like the fast paced combat of etneral where i double jump and dash all around

[half umbra]

Have you ever played Batman Arkham knight? Or any of the Arkham games?

[flint ocean]

nope

[half umbra]

Think of it like this, if you glory kill in eternal a set animation plays out. Now in dark ages you will be able to combo instead of that animation

[winter idol]

id software does something different for every game

[half umbra]

You choose the string

[flint ocean]

wait so i kill one enemy and then quickly move on to the next, and the chain i decide changes the animations seen during the kills?

[half umbra]

Also from what I’ve seen the game seems to have a sprint and jump mechanic still but it’s just not as high as Eternals

Yes you choose the the next chain string

[flint ocean]

where can i find the most recent trailer?

[half umbra]

Can I send you the part of the video?

[flint ocean]

i think imma buy the premium edition on steam, pre-order. i dont usually pre-order games but this looks insane and 2016 and eternal are both amazing games

[flint ocean]

yeah sure

[woven whale]

What does this mean

[half umbra]

You NEED a pc or laptop that supports ray tracing

It’s mandatory to run to game so I’m pretty sure the fps doesn’t matter too much

[woven whale]

How do I check if I have ray tracing?

[half umbra]

But if you’re asking what ray tracing is, it’s just reflections and makes the game “look better”

[woven whale]

How do I check for it then?

[half umbra]

@wheat sigil I’m sorry for the ping but can you help out?

[woven whale]

It's a gaming laptop, not a particularly expensive one but it's still good. So I would assume it supports ray tracing

[half umbra]

I’m not well adversed in this aspect sorry, I’m a console player

[woven whale]

Neither am I, cause I used to play on console lol. After a Google search it seems it's Nvidia's rtx, which I have. So I do have ray tracing then

[half umbra]

That’s good

[flint ocean]

i think im just gonna get the preorder premium version on steam. i wanna get the collectors edition but thats mad expensive. i hope i can get the collectors edition statue someday in the future tho

idk. i really want that statue

[woven whale]

Yeah, I pre-ordered premium. Well correction, my boyfriend did. The collectors edition is very expensive and me nor him are willing to pay for it, but it's a justifiable price.

[wheat sigil]

No worries, feel free to ping me any time
I cannot however help

[half umbra]

Only thing that would make me buy the collectors edition is if there was a super shot gun

[flint ocean]

fair

i just hope someday that i can buy the statue for a reasonable price

[eternal basin]

So no dash? 😧

[half umbra]

Well the shield sort of gives you a dash so there’s that

[south pilot]

i really hope de dosnt just die when dark ages drops

but who knows

[slender night]

It's already dead my man

[south pilot]

😐

[slender night]

Last major content update was almost in 2022 or so

[south pilot]

didnt ever get invasion mode

and never got a true endless mode

[grim cloud]

im sad about invasion mode

[south pilot]

init

[grim cloud]

Mods have given us endless mode if you want

i hope for official invasion mode for the new doom but dont see it happening

[coarse meadow]

So I heard that doom the dark ages will actually have glory kills, instead of watching the slayer beating up demons and slicing them with our arsenal's multiple times we can glory kill them ourselves in our own ways but it's just a rumor...

So I think we can still "Rip and Tear" once again than just throwing everything we got.

[half umbra]

Yeah the gameplay has shown some of that(I’m not being a smartass)

[coarse meadow]

Yeah but I wasn't sure cause the community and doom youtubers were saying there wasn't a glory kill animation except that hellknight dismembered part, I thought that was just a cutscene... (I'm sorry for being a sherlock)

I was on about the glory kill animation

[half umbra]

Yeah I know

[coarse meadow]

But I still wasnt sure

[half umbra]

Well to be fair none of us are sure but we’ve seen a lot of new things at least

To be honest though I’m not really sure if I’d care for the old glory kill system returning like that, I’m digging the new one

[coarse meadow]

I would say the same but its not Doom without it to be honest.

But you know what they say, all good things must come to an end.

[hard thistle]

So in 2016 we asked you to run and gun

In doom eternal it was jump and shoot

And in doom the dark ages youre gonna stand and fight

🎸🎵

[gritty mist]

Yall know the price of the game?

[plucky plinth]

$70 USD

[gritty mist]

Early access or when its out

[plucky plinth]

id Software doesn't do EA

so when it's out in May

[gritty mist]

Then even the discounts cant save me no way im buying that

[woven jolt]

I think the premium edition gives 2-day early access

[plucky plinth]

that isn't EA in the sense people see it

it's still the full game, but with an early window to play it

Early Access is usually seen as an actively developed game that isn't finished, like a public alpha/beta

[woven jolt]

they'll probably have beta-testers

or maybe just people from id

[slender night]

Not having any quality assurance in modern gaming is basically giving your game a death sentence

[grim cloud]

just two days though, and not on a weekend really makes early access not appetizing

If they had it release the friday before, i bet they would get more bites

but a fucking monday night (or tuesday due to timezones), lols

[stray pollen]

Not sure if anyone noticed in the gameplay but the combat shotgun (most likely a weapon mod or an upgrade) seems to ignite enemies if you keep connecting shots.

[hollow sandal]

I didnt notcice that, very sick if true

[hard thistle]

Could be a death animation that triggers if the demon is completely intact

The mancubus also ignites after getting hit by the shield dash

[stray pollen]

Yeah if you look at 2:28 and 4:48 of the dev direct you can see the enemies set on fire after constant shots

[grim cloud]

i need to know the names of the demons

I have called the soldiers, hell minions. There are at these three variants.

[eternal basin]

Is the developer direct deleted in yt?

Cant find it

[grim cloud]

i see it

[steel swan]

I hope they somehow manage to keep the classic weapon position option

[hard thistle]

I call the haired imps ghouls

[neon gust]

I agree. I always toggle that when I play Doom, it's that one unmistakeable trademark about the franchise

[solemn flower]

I’m gonna hope that the trailer was just holding back at what the new “glory kills” system looks… if all the glory kills in this game is just gonna “hit the dude in the face with your boot or mace”, we’re not gonna get shit like this…

https://tenor.com/view/doom-eternal-doom-glory-kill-whiplash-gif-18709557

[hard thistle]

I would prefer fast and snappy melee that's fun to engage with than stare at the same animations over and over

[solemn flower]

Yeah that’s fine, but I’m gonna be disappointed if the system doesn’t have ridiculous animations like that one.

Besides, I feel like it’d be even more boring when every single finishing move is just a kick or a mace

[remote thunder]

i've always seen sync animations as a flow tax

restacking itself i'm fine with, but the most reliable way of regening health and bp is to completely stop playing the game, watch a short movie, and then resume what i was doing

[solemn flower]

I think the short respites of getting to breathe while you a watch 1-2 second cutscene gives the player time to figure out their next move

I understand why they’re not doing cutscene glory kills, I imagine it’s because the game’s speed is slower than 2016 and Eternal, and so the glory kill cutscenes would lose their purpose when the game’s moving slow enough that you don’t need a moment of complete safety to assess your next move

I’m just sad to see the departure of the ridiculously overkill finishers

[remote thunder]

those respites become less relevant if not entirely redundant after having spent enough time with the games

[neon gust]

if glory kills truly are gone in TDA I'm not really sad about it

TDA seems to be closer to Classic Doom than other Modern Doom games (and chronologically it makes sense)

I'm looking forward to what "being closer to Classic Doom" does to the story and gameplay in more detail

[remote thunder]

you're able to process information much faster when you have a solid understanding of what to expect, and at that point never breaking your flow helps maintain that fast processing

it's the same thing in other games and physical sports (at least once you're at a certain level of competency), if you're in the zone it's better to maintain that than to take a breather and break your flow

[solemn flower]

Dedicated gamers forget that the average person who plays video games can only play them for a handful of hours a week if they’re lucky, their gamer reflexes aren’t as refined. The glory kill cutscenes were absolutely necessary for an “average” person who happens to play video games occasionally, the games would be too overwhelming otherwise

[remote thunder]

you could've just called me sweaty and it would've had the same message

i understand the importance of new and average players though

but it's not great when a game starts to feel worse, if not limiting

it's not right to ignore what dedicated players enjoy either, and i don't believe "the greater good" is an issue here

just have a toggle to either massively speed up or entirely skip the cutscenes

...but you can also take a breather by pausing the game or not interacting with the enemies and environment for a moment

so i don't entirely see them as necessary

[hard thistle]

so lemme get this straight, dark ages is supposed to be a flashback for when they put Doomguy in the coffin at ancient gods part 2 or what?

[remote thunder]

would it be more immersion breaking if they didn't exist? probably, but people who don't have the time to commit to things like this never really reach the flow state anyway

[coarse meadow]

I prefer the old glory kills system since it saves lives a lot to easily gain resources than just throwing hands or weapons at your opponent

[hard thistle]

Maybe you have to target a specific body part to trigger those animated glory kills

The dragon also seems to have animated glory kills

https://tenor.com/view/doom-doom-the-dark-ages-doom-slayer-dragon-kiss-of-death-gif-665127283724753487

[hollow sandal]

that looks very cool, i get the feeling it doesnt do to much damage

[winter idol]

they said there arent any

[hard thistle]

So that’s a cutscene?

[winter idol]

probably is

theres going to be alot more cutscenes

[zenith briar]

@hard thistle you been hacked bro take care of it

[hard thistle]

yea i already took care

my bad man, sorry if these ahhholes sent some innapropiate

i already took care of it

[arctic pagoda]

Scoob the bark ages

[hard thistle]

It's a summer blockbuster event with everything on the line

And YOU

Are the star of the show

[chilly sonnet]

Im God, guy. Need, special, armor-suits.

[tranquil magnet]

Dark ages looks great but god I really hope it still has air control movement... At the very least as an optional rune

[woven jolt]

bruh, there's a new demon called Cosmic Baron in dark ages

[chilly geyser]

like a really overpowered baron?

[woven jolt]

maybe

[chilly geyser]

i hope not

[woven jolt]

would be cool

[chilly geyser]

maybe a boss fight tho

god forbid barons give me a break

[woven jolt]

it said non-boss AI, so maybe just a normal demon

[slender night]

Give us the Maledict back for this game id

[woven jolt]

also a new demon called Acolyte

also non-boss

[chilly geyser]

arent the acolytes the invisible pinkies

[woven jolt]

those are called Spectres

[chilly geyser]

oh

[woven jolt]

the Spectre

[chilly geyser]

idk names like that always get me mixed up

[woven jolt]

ye

[chilly geyser]

i think any name thats like some ancient mythology is a different name

acolyte and sceptre sound like mythological gods

[woven jolt]

kinda

[empty ridge]

how do you know this?

[woven jolt]

dev direct

[fresh lintel]

acolyte isn't exactly a godly thing, it's more of a follower to a god,

[hard thistle]

Where di you find this

[woven jolt]

dev direct

[chilly geyser]

dev direct

[hard thistle]

Do you know the timestamp

[chilly geyser]

doom where you sit around and shoot is gonna be hella fun

[woven jolt]

around the beginning, where all 4 studios are being introduced

[hard thistle]

Mech section in nekravol https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1334054884533866529/1336575872190120016/IMG_0339.png?ex=67a44ec8&is=67a2fd48&hm=3eb04fbc9d0f9d8c4e714beeec9c649b58ace0313a6b51cfdbc8efbd5051a97b&

[woven jolt]

we can also see titans highlighted in purple...

lol

maybe it means we can do actual glory kills on them

[chilly geyser]

thatd be sick

[woven jolt]

also new demon called Serfs

maybe a type of fodder

[empty ridge]

it doesn't really look like nekravok, the top of the tower looks different

[hard thistle]

Makes sense it looks different because the tower isnt fully built at that time

[empty ridge]

don't we discover nekravol when it's fully built in the codex?

[woven jolt]

there's a new map called Hebeth

also new map called Siege

[hard thistle]

I dont think they thought of associating it with an older look at the time

Like the slayers statue in 2016

[empty ridge]

oh, we'll visit hebeth again, first time chronologically

[woven jolt]

maybe

[hard thistle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1334054884533866529/1336579066257604638/IMG_0341.png?ex=67a451c1&is=67a30041&hm=09804e3072665744a097c65c531adc76656555eff1dc1309c65d8cfae617d3fd&

[woven jolt]

you can see a full image of her,

this was kinda cut off

[empty ridge]

they always confused me, why there's statues of the praetor suit before he got trapped in hell

[hard thistle]

They didnt think of making a different armor for him at the time

[woven jolt]

yo, how do you post images, I can't

[hard thistle]

Post it somewhere else first then copy the link

And paste it

[woven jolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/405436335730458625/1336580302302089258/image.png?ex=67a452e8&is=67a30168&hm=c644d4004e29adaa66a1123288d42a425572348fe2bedd35b089220e490c53d1&

there

[hard thistle]

According to google serf means a person who works in a plot of land ruled over by a person of high status

Maybe theyre like ahzrak’s royal guard

[woven jolt]

we'll see

[hard thistle]

Like the immoran soldiers from tag2

[woven jolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/405436335730458625/1336581005401657424/image.png?ex=67a45390&is=67a30210&hm=f2136a9eb26107f2fb2032649bc4c70e9b81484f5d3b285f52633bb74016c6be&

whatever this ishttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/405436335730458625/1336581294372556820/image.png?ex=67a453d5&is=67a30255&hm=891c0576cd9994b49e636d856e44f74ff3479c4ae6dfdd5701cef2c468af0529&

[empty ridge]

Are stone imps in the dark ages?

[hard thistle]

Definitely not the four legged demon

No

Haired imps however share similar color scheme to stone imps

[empty ridge]

they pose the same

[hard thistle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1334054884533866529/1336584362417983538/IMG_0345.png?ex=67a456b0&is=67a30530&hm=5b0df39937708e770b1ffb9a2902a260c7dbf004734a74518e27df6e0c4ab70e&

Am i tripping or is that supposed to be a chaingunner on the right non boss ai column

[empty ridge]

Looks like it

[hard thistle]

Also at the bottom right looks like it says spectre

[empty ridge]

I agree

[grave cave]

cosmic baron?

[hard thistle]

Yeah wtf is that

A baron made out of stars

[empty ridge]

Barons of hell so experienced they had been in multiple invasions across the multiverse?

[tribal lagoon]

Potentially could be those mecha human spider demons carrying a big gun

Looks sorta Sabaoth-esc but with spider legs instead of a sled

[hard thistle]

What if the cosmic barons are tied to that purple void looking level

[empty ridge]

Maybe

[graceful lion]

probably configurable

dont think its gonna be DE-style glory kills

[hard thistle]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1334054884533866529/1336604101626302527/IMG_0348.png?ex=67a46912&is=67a31792&hm=83a77af82b38f4d331070731bad47a8c318ae5c7c8e6a763d4f5a6209a846ff6&

[empty ridge]

Hell carrier

[empty ridge]

Chain-

[frosty spear]

Who is this???

[lunar tiger]

I hope I can get a next gen console or a laptop to play Peak: The Dark Ages

[graceful lion]

non-boss

[graceful lion]

definitely better off getting a next gen console

but if you want your machine to do eveything, then a laptop

cosmic baron

hmmmmmmm

[empty ridge]

What are the pinky riders of TDA

[plain iron]

Am i tripping or does the boss ai category have a fucking serf???

Tf is a serf doing in the boss category

[hard thistle]

Non boss

[empty ridge]

What is a serf?

[plain iron]

It's a slave 😭

[empty ridge]

Argent slave?