streamchat

[jolly sky]

Literally all that had to be done was to refer them to the announcement and let it go

[tender field]

It's amazing that people manage to make drama out of nothing

[blissful imp]

Scrolling up it seems people told them it was just a test, but they then said

"no he's doing more streams on kick."
"he's said it, i saw the clips."

[rapid scarab]

yeah you can look up the messages from this morning

[blissful imp]

i've already scrolled up. idk when it started.

[jolly sky]

Yes, and all that needed to be said was "No, this is not a permanent move" and refer them to the announcement

But instead, people decided to poke and prod at the user

[wheat sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/burning-gif-17762541262232943072

[blissful imp]

People earlier did tell them that Thor has said he's not permanently moving to kick, they just didn't refer to the #streams post they were referring to what Thor has said on stream without posting a clip.

Granted i haven't scrolled all the way to the beginning of that argument so idk if they actually did refer to that #streams post or not.

[jolly sky]

Yes. I saw the people that did reply. But then they kept going. All that needed to be done was to refer the announcement post and say it's not a permanent move.

The more people poked and needled them, the less chance there was for them to want to stay due to the.....standoff-ish nature of other replies

[rapid scarab]

were wernt talking about them this while ago

[jolly sky]

Well the response to them from some people here leaves...much to be desired

Especially considering that they were a Subscriber and not a random Green Leaf troll that enters here specifically to cause trouble

[azure finch]

https://giphy.com/gifs/spongebob-spongebob-squarepants-season-6-3ohzAsIzHIXrGZZpny

Thursday is still his regular day off anyways. So I dunno.

And now for something different.

Remember to ask questions about your food.

[silver stump]

what bothered me is that they kept asserting it was a "slipperly slope" and due to that in their mind thor would definetly move to only kick streams despite him constantly asserting otherwise

[azure finch]

Like: "What juices?"

[silver stump]

beef juices

[azure finch]

The answer may surprise you. It's actually mostly apple.

[bitter jackal]

Are there other juices?

[azure finch]

Why yes, there are, it lists it as about 80% apple juice and 20% assorted other juices.

[bitter jackal]

that's like my preworkout saying the ingredients are a "Proprietary Blend"

[azure finch]

Welcome to fun horrifying food of the US Government.

[bitter jackal]

when we all know it's probably crushed up diet pills from the 70s and 80s.

[blissful imp]

the issue is. refering to the post in #streams would've probably had the same out come as saying that its just a test stream. like what people did earlier.

that person after they were told that thor has said that this is only a test and not permanent, replied with "he's doing more kick only streams, i've seen the clips" then they went on about morals and ethics which is like... morally and ethically Twitch has gotten REALLY bad lately with their decisions and moderation, they ain't no saint. All platforms have issues. kick is improving atm and is listening to feedback and is very quick with their support. And kicks moderation has improved big time since... idk exactly, but i wanna say ever since that french streamer incident is when they decided to start improving.

[azure finch]

Look, honestly, the best part of these cans is the mystery beef bits that were too low quality to sell in the market, so they can them all up and you're lucky if you don't have 1/2-inch veins.

[bitter jackal]

We had a restaurant down here that did filet mignon but would sell beef tip poboys from the trimmings off the filet for like $3

10 out of 10.

[azure finch]

If you cook it right, you'd never know.

[bitter jackal]

you had to pay for the dipping sauce though, which was like another $2

they get ya on the SAUCE

[nova bough]

I swear people just breathe and they give shit. People need to go touch grass

[azure finch]

If you don't, someone has to explain to the kids why there's something they think is a melty straw in their food.

[bitter jackal]

we're talkin bout beef juice

[nova bough]

Yea its a few messages above

[bitter jackal]

(im choosing to ignore it and have a lovely conversation about beef juice and preworkout)

[nova bough]

Making your own beef stock is the way, but im always too lazy and use the salty powder stuff that i cant spell

[bitter jackal]

uncle roger would tell you to just add MSG

[azure finch]

Bouillon. Yeah. It goes a few ways. My mother used to swear by the greasey gel kind and it was not all that.

[bitter jackal]

I got a jar of that in the fridge right now

[azure finch]

A nice beef stock. Reminds me I should make chili and french onion soup sometime sooner or later.

[bitter jackal]

I think it's in my red beans and rice recipe. I'll have to look.

[azure finch]

It works, but I dunno, doesn't have quite the right saltyness.

[jolly sky]

Again, none of this needed to be explained to the user as their obvious concern was clearly that "Thor was going to only stream on Kick"

Which has never been said by Thor, and a referral to the Stream announcement was all that was needed. And yet, more and more was added and piled on.

[broken lava]

people that dont watch kick for other people are probably gonna skip the kick only streams, its gonna lead to this weird thing where your "missing out" on stuff that happened because your not saddling 2 platforms, if an interview or some game ends up being played on a kick day, non kick people will miss out, so either kick only days will be the same stuff and nothing new, or the regular twitch people will be missing out on new things if they dont make a new account for this one stream

[bitter jackal]

I kind of wanna make some red beans and rice.

I do it in a pressure cooker so i dont have to cook it all day

[jolly sky]

FOMO is a hell of a drug. Me personally I didn't care to watch the Kick stream, I just did other stuff

[bitter jackal]

Or as I call it, my potential house insurance claim

[azure finch]

Honestly that sounds pretty good rn

[bitter jackal]

dude come over. I'll make us food.

[river cargo]

You could always just ask this discord or even thor himself about what happened on the kick stream

[broken lava]

people like me arent gonna just be scared they are missing out, they are just gonna opt ouf the inconsistant experince

[nova bough]

I didnt realize he did a stream. But i have notifications off. Im not sad about it, i just had a normal morning

[jolly sky]

But I also don't care that Thor did a Kick only stream. Like I really didn't care. It has no impact on my life and nor should it have an impact on anyone elses

[azure finch]

Would that I could make half the things I wanted in my crockpot. Unfortunately, just not in the budget til I find work, so there's that.

[bitter jackal]

Dude whaddaya wanna make?!

I got all kinds of money friendly recipes!

Because I also experienced the layoffs of 2025 and 2024.

[azure finch]

I make some interesting cheese dips. Made some pepperoni dip. Cream cheese, sour cream, pizza cheese blend, pepperoni, can of BGO (basil, garlic, oregano) tomatos. Let it slow cook. Serve with tortilla chips.

[bitter jackal]

Do you want the mac and cheese crock pot recipe?! Since you be likin cheese?

[nova bough]

Rice maker. Veggies, sauce. Cheapest meals ever that dont get old cause you change up the veggies/protein/sauces

[bitter jackal]

^also this, big ole bag of rice

[azure finch]

lol, I've got more mac and ccheese recipes than should be possible. Have a cookbook specifically of them somewhere I think still.

[bitter jackal]

hell yeah.

[nova bough]

Throw in some brown rice for the nutrition if ya need that

[broken lava]

most people are just gonna decided if they will or wont watch on kick before this do this

[azure finch]

It's all like "Goat cheese and cranberry mac and cheese" though mostly. Weird pairings.

And their basic cheddar mac and cheese recipe is kinda half-assed.

[bitter jackal]

I got super into cheese because of the family i married into (divorced now) never knew there were so many GOOD cheeses

[nova bough]

Im a sucker for good/fancy cheese

[azure finch]

I used to work at an Aldi's and let me tell you, I bought every new cheese because I wanted to.

[nova bough]

Aldis the bomb

[bitter jackal]

Can we all get together and have a charcoochie party?

[azure finch]

Shame the raspberry wendslydale molded so quick, because that was pretty good.

Can heavily advise against the blueberry vodka cheddar though.

Imagine you took full grain alcohol and drank it. That was the taste.

[bitter jackal]

ima butcher the spelling, but im a fan of gruiere

[azure finch]

It was like everclear I think.

[blissful imp]

if people don't wanna watch on kick that's perfectly fine. i completely understand with who owns kick and their rough and short history.

i just like that they're actually improving the platform for the better and hopefully they can get ads and can get more features on the platform as features is the 1 thing imo that kick is missing. Twitch has a lot of features, which as we know break A LOT due to the site being old and running on Duct tape and glue.

I do hope and really want Twitch to improve tho. its getting bad lately with the moderation and other issues.

[azure finch]

mmm cheese.

[bitter jackal]

theres a soft cheese that im not big fan of, but it goes REAL good with garlic and herb crackers

[rapid scarab]

also if you decide you dont want to watch in kick, dont complain about the consecuences

[bitter jackal]

i cannot remember the name of it though.

[broken lava]

at risk of starting another tangent on people not liking kick, but not everyone agrees they are doing their best

[azure finch]

There's a lot of 'em like that. I remember we got this vegan cheese once and it was the nastiest cheese ever, but you put it on a slightly salty cracker and suddenly it went from 1/10 to a 10/10.

[nova bough]

sometimes just crackers and cheese is good.

and pepperoni/salami

[azure finch]

Cured meats are delcious. Some nice capicola. (hot ham)

Well, usually delicious.

[bitter jackal]

I love crackers and cheese, im a sucker for just basic triscuits and sharp cheddar

[rapid scarab]

also this might upset some people but:

[azure finch]

I reserve the right to judge some of the dollar store pepperoni.

[rapid scarab]

I am sure is the worst, but ey

[nova bough]

even tho i like fancy cheese, im frugal. so basic, big block of cheese for me generally. every once in awhile ill get the expensive cheese

usually just colby jack or cheddar

[bitter jackal]

@nova bough ain't nothin wrong with a BIG OLE BLOCK

[nova bough]

i do love feta in salads tho

[azure finch]

I mean, it's probably fine, just conceptually horrid knowing what pho should be.

[rapid scarab]

@azure finch I dont think there is even a vietnamese place at all on my city

[azure finch]

There's a lot that's "technically fine", but also who wants microwaved sushi? (Frozen sushi typically has microwave instructions for thawing)

[nova bough]

fresh mozzarella is tho

[blissful imp]

i didn't say kick is doing their best. but they are improving, while being a much smaller team than twitch.

[bitter jackal]

What's everyone take on babybels?

[azure finch]

I'd have to look for mine, there's a lot of weird ones, but I don't think there's nearly enough variety still.

[azure finch]

Bland. Could be better. Good for a quick cheese snack. Better if you use them for impromptu toasted cheese on a bagel.

[nova bough]

i only considered them really when i was super into camping/backpacking

[bitter jackal]

I also think they're overhyped

[broken lava]

personally i dont see them improving at all, but i guess we can agree to disagree

[azure finch]

Like mini-bagel and they're perfect size.

[nova bough]

for bagels i always want cream cheese

but also

[azure finch]

Most taste kinda off. The cheddar is bad, the others are "almost" the type of cheese they say they are, but ends up tasting like the most generic.

[rapid scarab]

closest thing are indonesian and thai xD

[nova bough]

i am lactose intolerant

[bitter jackal]

I am also lactose intolerant. But I wil suffer for cheese.

Or pop a lactaid

[nova bough]

...i mean...

yeah. same lol

generic lactaid for the win

[azure finch]

Everyone I know in RL who's lactose intolerant has the same opinion. "Someone's going to regret this later and it's not me."

[bitter jackal]

Also my favorite gas station snack is a tobasco girthy jim

My body is the furthest thing from a temple.

[nova bough]

so many good things have milk

[azure finch]

Sure it is, there's plenty of temples to hedonism.

[nova bough]

i feel bad for a friend of mine. he cant have milk or gluten (not lactose intolerant. like allergy.)

[bitter jackal]

inb4 all you soy/almond milk lovers come at us

it is NOT the same

[nova bough]

i mean...i like those too. they are definitely different. but i drink them to cut down on the lactaids i take.

[azure finch]

Yeah, had a coworker almost get violent when told to just use banana milk in their coffee.

[nova bough]

oat milk is my personal favorite for drinks.

[bitter jackal]

what the hell is banana milk

[azure finch]

I don't know but we sold it at Aldi when I worked there.

[bitter jackal]

A rare Aldi L

[azure finch]

They basically make a mash, strain it and that's the milk because of all the starch or something I think.

[nova bough]

also, plant milks wont set most desserts that use milk

[bitter jackal]

^bam a

[azure finch]

Rare? You have incredible misconceptions about the crimes they commited to food.

[nova bough]

unless you do some weird shit like chia seeds. which can work, but its...weird.

[bitter jackal]

I'll be honest, I don't know a whole lot about aldi

[rapid scarab]

are we milking bananas now

[nova bough]

at least for pudding chia seeds work (with oat/almond milk)

[broken kite]

Anyone else not Check the discord today bc it’s Thursday and miss the stream?

[rapid scarab]

I live in here

[azure finch]

And the seltzer water? Yikes. "Candy apple, pumpkin spice, Cider-spice"

[nova bough]

yeah i didnt check, but its fine. cause i have notifications turned off.

[broken kite]

I didn’t think you would have missed it.

[azure finch]

Like... nah, I'm good.

[nova bough]

man i do love me some pumpkin, but....this is a bit weird, even for me

[azure finch]

I like my pumpkin spice baked goods, but I'mma stay away from seltzer in seasonal flavors.

[rapid scarab]

make sure you dont have the stream alerts muted ^^

[nova bough]

baked goods and pumpkin mochas.

[azure finch]

I forget what the other flavor was, but it was like sugarplum, candy cane and something else for xmas. Those were... a choice.

[nova bough]

thats my jam. i genuinely look forward to october so i can get the syrup to make pumpkin mochas/lattes.

[azure finch]

See, that's normal, you have warm flavors with warm flavors.

But seltzer? nah

[nova bough]

yeah seltzer is weird af

[azure finch]

Oh right, found another one in the folder of food.

"Ham flavor"

[nova bough]

B E A N S

bro

[azure finch]

For reference, it's that little white packet of powder.

[nova bough]

have you ever put a slice of bacon in your beans?

[azure finch]

Yes, that's fine, that's normal.

[nova bough]

if you havent you're missing so much

[azure finch]

That white powder is not bacon.

[nova bough]

oh...its flavoring

i am sad

yeah nah thats a waste. real meat or nogo

[azure finch]

I'd still probably buy it and toss the powder tbh.

But also yikes.

[broken lava]

i used to to do salt pork in beans

[nova bough]

id just...get a regular bag o beans

[azure finch]

Yeah, better that way to tune your preference tbh

Someone shows up with the chili made of green beans instead of chili/kidney is going to be in for a rude awakening

[nova bough]

someone saw "beans" and did not think that through

[azure finch]

Yeah, that pizza was a choice too.

It sounds really good except the green beans.

"Flatbread with mushroom sauce, white cheese blend, caramelized onions on top"

[worthy ivy]

idk, green beans kick ass if you slap a load of butter on them

[azure finch]

And then they put what's like, frozen green beans on it and they're just soggy.

[worthy ivy]

or cover them in honey and pan fry them for a bit before they hit the plate

booosh

epic beans

minimal fuss

[azure finch]

See, green beans are fine. On pizza though? I dunno.

[nova bough]

hard no for green beans on pizza

[azure finch]

Pineapple, I like it, it's a choice, it makes sense.

[wheat sleet]

I could make a green beam cassrrole pizza that would slap

[nova bough]

people dont realize that grilled pineapple is amazing

[azure finch]

Here's a couple more.

[nova bough]

ok so ...the right one is fine

pumpkin is fine as a filler for sauce on a pizza

[azure finch]

See, everyone likes one or the other, and it's "probably" okay, but they're also just frozen pizzas, so it immediately tanks.

[nova bough]

blend some canned tomatoes with pumpkin and its just fine as a pizza sauce

[azure finch]

Like, you made these outta fresh ingredients? Sure.

[nova bough]

beets on pizza is super weird tho

also i cant have beets

[wheat sleet]

You could probably make some kind of sweet dessert pizza with beets

[azure finch]

Maybe something like that dessert spaghetti where you press noodles from icecream.

[wheat sleet]

Spaghetti eis

https://www.mapleandmango.com/spaghetti-eis-german-spaghetti-ice-cream/

[azure finch]

Yeah that, make a nice sauce outta beets and cherry.

I want some cherry-based salsa now. It's so good.

I'm just hungry I think.

Even despite the food horrors.

[wheat sleet]

Cherry pepper salsa

[wicked schooner]

From MAGGI?!

[azure finch]

Yes <3

[broken kite]

I love peach and pineapple salsa, need to try cherry now.

[azure finch]

Yeah, I may have eaten 2 quarts of it in one sitting.

10/10 would advise, if it's made right.

[wheat sleet]

I just like charred salsas

[wicked schooner]

I wonder what thors reaction to this 🤔

[wheat sleet]

Thor like noodle

But also probably nowhere close to real pho

[wicked schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/uncle-roger-ancestor-crying-gif-12223912519138713686

[river island]

Oh tts is still on twitch lol might need to sort that out in the future

[subtle gate]

https://tenor.com/view/me-too-me-too-kid-incredibles-gif-19919940

[blissful imp]

yea. it was brought up to thor. the answered tts messanges from this morning were linking to an old twitch vod.

not to kick correctly

[river island]

[wicked schooner]

Yeah im lucky to hear my tts when thor pressed the button and managed to clip it

BEHOLD
My driest jokes
https://kick.com/piratesoftware/clips/clip_01KR17NTGS12FQ0F4GV04EGGAY

[junior jasper]

Really!

[river island]

I've been pushing the boundaries with mine lately, Ill probably pull back a little

[subtle gate]

https://media.tenor.com/images/acfa404b0616740c45add9748e78e1e0/tenor.gif

[brisk sparrow]

your name is enough no matter what

[river island]

Replacing it is gonna be a challenge

[junior jasper]

Too much fun with it

[tender field]

Kick stream does not buffer, but the clips do because you can't change the video quality!

Also, I'm in the chat

[subtle gate]

so it would seem

[toxic cloud]

We really getting a stream almost every day? Wild man https://kick.com/piratesoftware/clips/clip_01KR2TH1CPAKXM8XMEEWHJSJP0

[restive grotto]

And mirror is gonna be very angry about it.

[toxic cloud]

don't burn out tho

[wheat sleet]

Thor took Tuesday off. It's fine

[cursive flame]

https://x.com/i/status/2052508747784933471

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[gray fable]

twitch really trying to tempt us with duolingo subscriptions

[blissful imp]

this is a cool change, but why the tongue snatcher subscription?

[cursive flame]

good question, ask twitch xD

[rapid scarab]

clouds are weird today

[wicked schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/tv-simpsons-cloud-fist-grandpa-gif-12082744756246344299

[rapid scarab]

reality AI messed up there

ah I bring a nice son and music video, but starts around 0:46, marked it on the link: https://youtu.be/GxTk6OY08mg?t=46&is=AIFpO6Zj7WfrbNmt

inspired on animal farm

[full kite]

Is Thor not streaming today?

[fresh ginkgo]

It's barely past the usual time, calm down

[restive grotto]

He generally starts anywhere between 5-10 minutes past

[full kite]

No one in the offline chat so just wondering if I missed something

[tribal nest]

No no, Thor is one minute late, that must mean he tragically died in a car crash

-# it’s probably related to what happened with Henry though

[full kite]

Oh no I did miss something

What happened?

[tribal nest]

#ferretchat message

[restive grotto]

Henry has been having a bunch of issues overall.

[full kite]

Oh nooo

I hate when the little ones hurt

[wheat sleet]

Part of being in animal care, especially running a rescue, is that you will live longer than all of your patients.

[tribal nest]

Luckily we have the swamp boys for this exact situation though

[azure knoll]

Sorry I forgot to wake Thor up hold on one moment

I lost track of time

I am fully mentally checked out atm

[high canyon]

Its okay ❤️

[vast idol]

thats ok. i understand.

[wheat sleet]

Let him sleep in a bit

[tender field]

Yeah, let him sleep

[restive grotto]

You've had a lot of stuff happening with the ferrets lately, we understand.

[azure knoll]

Thor waking up

[restive grotto]

Tell him to take his time, we can wait however long.

[wheat sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/ready-to-go-wake-up-working-get-up-ready-to-work-gif-16618036

Thor, probably

[rapid scarab]

we can wait for him to have some breakfast

[faint creek]

That is basically Thor

[tribal nest]

But can Thor wait for him to have some breakfast?

[rapid scarab]

probably not

[wheat sleet]

No. No he can't.

[faint creek]

Ai doesn't need breakfast

[rapid scarab]

fair

[tribal nest]

Then I would get Mirror on stand-by to yell at him

[wheat sleet]

!mirrortellatthor

[fresh ginkgo]

o7

[wheat sleet]

Good, day off

[slender sequoia]

thor = dedge then, spelling says enough, let the man rest

[restive grotto]

With everything thats been happening thor needs the day.

[blissful imp]

Ferret stuff

[coarse python]

reselt

[verbal beacon]

Hope everyone has a good day see ya tomorrow

[long totem]

need an actual nights reselt.

yeah i think we can definitely tell, gn thor!

[wheat sleet]

Brain hasnt reselt yet

[lament sun]

does Kick allows you to watch VoDs

[ember slate]

Reselt needed

[blissful imp]

yes

[restive grotto]

Do as instructed and watch the wigglers!

[lament sun]

without an account ?

[frosty socket]

...we gonna have that turned into a meme for "Thor is exhausted", aren't we?

[blissful imp]

idk. i've never tried that

[slender sequoia]

of course

[lament sun]

only one way to find out

[wheat sleet]

Maybe

[faint creek]

Dang. Well, let him rest his bones

[rapid scarab]

he really needs it

[lament sun]

yea you cann

watchVods without an account

on kick

[wheat sleet]

Mirror has to give them back first

[rapid scarab]

proud of him for actually stopping

[lament sun]

what happened with the ferrets yesterday ? i just woke up

[faint creek]

Oh, you're right

[wheat sleet]

Vet visit, ulcer

[lament sun]

ooof

[rapid scarab]

for the people who werent there yesterday: https://kick.com/piratesoftware/videos/019e017e-7bd8-7265-bf84-2bc5361e37bd

you can watch it without account

[rapid scarab]

huh

[slender sequoia]

i am hoping that henders pulled through though yarrLove

[rapid scarab]

I am barely awake

[slender sequoia]

tbf, that gif needs to be turned into a meme for the swampbois and chilli

[rapid scarab]

https://kick.com/piratesoftware/videos/839eb8da-e7bc-4e04-8634-3952752eca5a

thar one seems to work

phone app busted

had to go trough browser

[wheat sleet]

https://kick.com/piratesoftware/clips/clip_01KR2V1A08FD4V7J6STNTV3V48

[lament sun]

uh

i dont know how to spell this right

does frankerfaceZ do not work on kick ?

[wheat sleet]

Nope

[terse pelican]

afaik only 7TV does?

[rapid scarab]

as far as I know

and not very well

[lament sun]

i have the userscript installed

and emotes are not converting on the VoD chat

thats why i asked

[rapid scarab]

for some people emotes dont work at all

for me they work as long as I am not answering to someone

[wheat sleet]

Kick emotes are a little strange and aren't saved in plaintext, rather converted to code as soon as they're entered into the chat box

[lament sun]

i have a funny story
that ends in sadness

[wheat sleet]

Also trying to put emotes into the tts redeem fills it up FAST

[slender sequoia]

ah that explains why yarrDance cannot be typed out, you'd get the emote up for yarrD and then 'ance'

[lament sun]

i can barely read the Kick Vods chat

becase its stupidly small in text size

[slender sequoia]

you can increase font size with the cogwheel at the bottom

[lament sun]

i can't change that since i can't access chat options sincei don't have an account

the end

inreasing zoom helps a bit

yay

[wheat sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-professor-hubert-farnsworth-eyes-gif-3592844138789763180

[terse pelican]

https://klipy.com/gifs/when-ur-bfs-talking-to-someone-u-dont-know--k01KR38Q131EQFYFVNR1SG2Y0YN

[wheat sleet]

Don't forget to put in your steam controller reservation today at 10am Thor time (in 9 hours)

[lament sun]

OMFG

KICK DOES NOT HAVE HOTKEYS FOR THE VIDEO PLAYER ?

oh, no apparently it does

it's just "J" and "K" do not work there

kick isn't following youtube "standard" i guess

https://kick.com/piratesoftware/videos/839eb8da-e7bc-4e04-8634-3952752eca5a?t=938
yesterday VoD's diablo starting time

[silver stump]

its the same as base twitch (top is twitch bottom is kick)

[lament sun]

i have extension to make it bigger

until i get my Sx eye cataract fixed

i can't see shit, captain

in this case, read

i usually have the chat at 16 px

[rapid scarab]

also kick high contrast makes it easier to read

[silver stump]

my example doesnt show that very well unfortunatly, because i did these signed out and twitch defaults to light mode

also on twitch i had to wait for somebody to send a message because there was no chat history

[wheat sleet]

Twitch vods record messages as they're sent. Any message sent before you start playing is unavailable

[wicked schooner]

I was supposed to be in a communication and presentation skills workshop and this is in one of the slides icant 😭

[wheat sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/maximo-espectacular-dardano-gif-20543566

[slender sequoia]

Kinda wished you immortalized another one of my quips, but w/e yarrLUL

[silver stump]

it was the only chat message to appear after like 10 seconds of waiting

[rapid scarab]

I have a need: https://fxtwitter.com/i/status/2052543251328929963

Dudes Posting Their W’s (@DudespostingWs)

Dude built an "ADHD-chair" for boring work calls

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[wicked schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/i-need-it-robert-downey-jr-gif-15118751

[worthy ivy]

it's annoying tbh - I write "classic" and get a little yellow ducky which is cool and all but not what I wanted

[blissful imp]

the duck is shaking its head saying "classic" if you watch closely and on the twitch side comes from 7tv iirc. its a very popular emote on twitch to spam

https://tenor.com/view/cute-adorable-duckling-haha-classic-gif-17283485

[wicked schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/old-man-diabetes-diabetus-intensifies-gif-11779996

[rapid scarab]

well if we are what we eat I am all of you

https://tenor.com/view/redpanda-nam-nam-redpanda-eat-redpanda-gif-25163268

[wicked schooner]

Goblins

[rapid scarab]

yes

we are legion for we are many

[vast idol]

a legion of lego legolas'

[rapid scarab]

legless lego legolas

[junior jasper]

Sister?

[rapid scarab]

no, you food

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-luffy-push-zombie-there-there-gif-4969095

[wicked schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/tomodachi-life-living-the-dream-monster-house-mii-nintendo-gif-8339833124464977406

Red probably

[rapid scarab]

yes

dont worry just with the livers

where the soul resides

[wheat sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-pat-gif-24957682

Also Red

[junior jasper]

But but we share now the red sauce? And.... Ooo so we all big family?

[rapid scarab]

yes

fox is your cousin now

[wheat sleet]

I wouldn't call it a family, more like a horde. A goblin horde.

Or a chat of goblins

[wintry coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/goblins-goblinslayers-gif-27009989

family picture.

[junior jasper]

So wholesome

@wheat sleet hello cousin! Give a big hug

[restive grotto]

Is that what you call the plural of goblins? a chat?

[worthy ivy]

a "mischief" of goblins iirc

[restive grotto]

That one does fit as well.

[wheat sleet]

No, it's chat of goblins per Thor

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/F_pLd3n9alA

[worthy ivy]

an awkwardness of goblins

a stubbornness of goblins

no

an apocalypse of goblins

[wicked schooner]

A goblin of goblins

[worthy ivy]

nlg I like a goblining of goblins

[golden latch]

A Hug of death of goblins maybe more apt with what we do in large groups

[wheat sleet]

Really it's just a mess of goblins

[golden latch]

Can we make it a pool of goblins so its atleast contained?

[worthy ivy]

a death-hug of goblins

[wheat sleet]

No, it's not contained or organized. It's a mess

[worthy ivy]

I like that one

[rapid scarab]

HAHHAA

love it

[junior jasper]

Soup of Goblins!

[junior jasper]

could be also just Hug of Goblins as its just accident 👀

[tribal bloom]

advertisers need to find their own metrics to track and work with streamers
They do. It's called sponsorships.

Unfortunately all marketing is paid/budgeted based on how many people the ad is expected to hit. Sponsorships function the same way, just more indirectly

[exotic forge]

What do you proprose the metrics they should look at?

[rapid scarab]

how do you know who is responsible for the botting?

[tribal bloom]

track like unique codes
They already do that with sponsorships
, better fingerprinting on off twitch sites
They already do that with sponsorships.
just making a value judgment on the streamer and do a flat pay out instead of trusting whatever numbers that get fudged
They already do that with sponsorships.

I'm not really understanding your point at all. It's reading to me as "I want to do away with ads and instead have everyone get sponsorships"

That'll basically just screw over small streamers.

[exotic forge]

I meant for twitch. Other than views which I agree is a very imperfect metric, how would you suggest they judge the metric? I assume they already do a mix of views, engagement, growth etc. Not sure what else they should do

I guess it's still views but take the average over a span of time?

[tribal bloom]

It all comes back to views anyway. Ad rates already factor in that a certain amount of views will be botted. It's part of the whole calculation along with category, demographic, and the like. That's why twitch is constantly fighting against viewbots because if they can prove the percentage of viewbots is lower, then they can charge agencies more for ad space

[exotic forge]

My thinking is to just accept the viewbotting variance because I can't really think of any good way to replace views

[minor nymph]

The twitch anti-botting solution makes no sense. If they have historical data indicating bots then they can detect bots and only remove that traffic. Applying arbitrary caps does nothing but open new attack vectors on streamers.

The real issue is that embeds should be abolished.

[wheat sleet]

If they had that much confidence in the ability to detect bots, they could just enforce their own ToS and ban people.

[serene valley]

if they're gonna punish people who are viewbotting, that must mean they know which the bots are.... so just don't count those as views?

[exotic forge]

Embeds as in streamers putting up their own banners/ads on their screen without going through Twitch's channels?

[serene valley]

like, isn't it that straightforward

or am I missing something

[minor nymph]

You haven't had to ping your partner manager because your stream pops to 200k viewers. This kind of shit is common even at smaller scale.

[exotic forge]

But you're blindly punishing everyone

Hmm I don't get what it's trying to solve other than punishing everyone so in hopes that some of those people who get screwed over are botters

[serene valley]

that just sounds like twitch is gearing up to make itself undesirable as a platform to stream on to me

[tribal bloom]

From experience working with smaller streamers: Alternate monetization avenues don't make you jack diddly. Ads are still superior

[wheat sleet]

It's gonna be a really hard sell to the people Neuro raids on why they don't get the extra revenue from their channel growing 10000% in a day

[exotic forge]

It will definitely drive usefulness of bots down but I feel like it'll just unfairly punish everyone. Botters and non-botters

[minor nymph]

You have no idea how the streaming space works if you think a cap helps the channel. It will immediately lead to botting accusations, reduced overall ACCV which impacts sponsorships and adrev and many other financial and visibility issues for the broadcaster.

[tribal bloom]

Considering how the swarm acts, I wonder if that counts as viewbotting

[wheat sleet]

Twitch goes by 'historical data' so I would assume they're just going to deny any explosive growth.

[exotic forge]

Think about fake reviews on Amazon. How would you fix that?

For the analogy of fake reviews on amazon, would you cap reviews for ALL products whether or not you have proof that they're fake? That's going to punish a lot of genuinely good products/ customer service

I mean at least answer any of my earlier points if you don't like my amazon analogy. It's the same point. Capping is going to punish good/growing streamers blindly.

[minor nymph]

This also doesn't solve the bot problem at all.
Bots aren't applied as a giant burst. They are done gradually over time.
The cat and mouse game you think is being fought is the one that existed 4-5 years ago.
Most botting today is done through embedded traffic on third party sites.
Hell they even advertise this

No money is being taken away from bots LOL

[exotic forge]

I mean yes but you're punishing everyone not just botters.

[minor nymph]

This doesn't remove the incentive at all.
Like I said, if they could detect bot traffic it would be removed.
Instead they are claiming they can see it but instead will apply an arbitrary cap on views.
That proves they have no idea what traffic is bots and what isn't.

This doesn't right any ship.
It just caps views when bots are suspected.

[wheat sleet]

It could just all be a smokescreen for Twitch pocketing ad revenue they normally would have to pay out.

[exotic forge]

I think that unless we have a good solution, Twitch should just try to play the cat and mouse game with botters.

[tribal bloom]

Twitch also has a history of being biased and/or inconsistent in their enforcement (see anything relating to vtubers), so it's just going to make existing problems worse

[rapid scarab]

twitch is just doing it as a marketing campaing trying to save face

[exotic forge]

Would love to know what this new metric is lol

[wheat sleet]

CCV can't be replaced

[serene valley]

they're gonna scan ur eyeballs and each eyeball scanned is a view fr fr

[rapid scarab]

cool I have a collection

[serene valley]

ah wait crap that's gonna roughly double views

[minor nymph]

How you see it doesn't matter.
How it is matters.

The botting space is dominated by real people seeing streams in embeds.
These occur slowly over the broadcast and do not result in immediate spikes.
People doing this have done it for years.

If Twitch is using historical data then they will not see bots unless it's a spike in traffic.
If Twitch can see the bots as they claim then they could cull only those views.
Yet they aren't doing this. They are applying viewership caps which also caps out normal real viewers.
This proves they do not see which traffic is malicious and which isn't.

That opens a path to abuse broadcasters.
Buy bots to hit them, cap their stream, watch the world dogpile that person for "Getting caught botting"

[tribal bloom]

It's the same metric used by advertising for literal decades

[exotic forge]

I know we're in a casual chat and I'm really not asking you to pull up publications and references but man this is yet another non-answer from you.

I still have no clue what metric you want Twitch to move into from views

[minor nymph]

And if you're wondering if people viewbot malicious or not, yes they fucking do.

[exotic forge]

I think me and Steel have the same question

[serene valley]

so that's tracking conversions then

[minor nymph]

Except Twitch allows embedded traffic of non-verified users which should be the actual focus.
None of that other shit matters when the main issue is embeds causing all of this.

[exotic forge]

Wouldn't bots have unique user codes? Aren't they real accounts? Also yeah if you hated Discord ID, then you're going to hate Twitch Real ID

[minor nymph]

Shows you the exact reasons why you're wrong.
"Not worth engaging with"

Seeya

[tribal bloom]

lol. Especially when he was responding "Just fingerprint people to use twitch"

[rapid scarab]

xD

[serene valley]

now we all look like a bunch of weirdos with thsoe messages gone

[rapid scarab]

you are a buch of weirdos, its ok

[serene valley]

true

[tribal bloom]

TBF, we already looked like weirdos

[rapid scarab]

on other news, my second monitor just died

[tribal bloom]

Give it a viking burial

[minor nymph]

"Your proof doesn't matter because I don't want to look at it."

[exotic forge]

How would that work for PC?

[rapid scarab]

it all was downhill when they considered their opinion more important that the facts

[serene valley]

my second monitor has a bunch of rows duplicating rows higher up / lower down of my monitor running through it

[rapid scarab]

like 2+2=4 is not an opinion you can argue about

[tribal bloom]

He was probably talking about digital fingerprinting, but it came across as the regular physical kind.
EDIT: Also: "Don't y'all have phones?"

[rapid scarab]

mine turns of the moments I need it the most, sometimes goes green

[exotic forge]

I think bots nowadays are able to produce unique digital fingerprints no? Maybe the IP is going to be the same...

[minor nymph]

People are already pitchforking random streamers using browser addons that claim they can see viewbots.
Capping streamers because they get a spike in traffic is going to end in a shitshow.
https://x.com/ChrisHa91780763/status/1871056752378069309

Chris Handsome (@ChrisHa91780763)

@TwitchSupport @djclancy999 @FTC

https://t.co/WoDBsuTm62. Embed viewbot abuse eh? Very. #adfraud #FakeEngagement everyday

X · Dec 23, 2024, 4:54 AM

[subtle gate]

thank you for this

[rapid scarab]

best case scenario is a marketing stutn and they wont do shit

[serene valley]

people would probably also pitchfork streamers if the caps weren't there

[rapid scarab]

pardon my french

[arctic needle]

Kick is looking better and better

[serene valley]

people would pitchfork any day of the week if the weather felt like it

[wheat sleet]

https://tenor.com/view/jerry-eating-amc-perfectly-popcorn-mouse-yum-yum-delicious-gif-15877432887457947334

[exotic forge]

I would like to solve the viewbotting problem, I just don't think that was it

[wheat sleet]

Twitch speedrunning failure

[tribal bloom]

Twitch is just desperate to find a way to charge advertisers more for view space. The best way to do that is to make sure their adds are hitting as many 'real' people as possible. It's a losing game though

[rapid scarab]

the language on the tweet let me think is directed to advertisers

"ey come back, we are totally fixing this"

[exotic forge]

If those ads hits bots instead of real people, advertisers still pay Twitch the same right?

[minor nymph]

Honestly, the best thing they can do?
Abolish embedded streams.

[wheat sleet]

Without Twitch saying they're bots, yes.

[serene valley]

no more stream on develop.games 😔

[tribal bloom]

They pay the same, but twitch can't charge them as much per-viewer since they know a large percentage might be bots. They want to charge more per view

[rapid scarab]

the moment kick ads adds, advertisers are not going back to twitch

unless they fix things for real

[tribal bloom]

Does kick allow embeds?

[serene valley]

wouldn't kick have the same problem tho

[rapid scarab]

no idea honestly

[exotic forge]

Can you elaborate on embeds?

[wheat sleet]

Kick has a problem with chat bots, but not really sure how they deal with viewbots.

[wheat sleet]

Embed stream into another website so your viewcount explodes while people are searching the wiki for minecraft

[serene valley]

I think it's whats at the bottom of https://develop.games

[minor nymph]

Bingo

That's an embed.

Now imagine putting that on a major wiki website.

[jolly sky]

It's like how there is/was always an embed of the Fextralife stream on the wiki

[rapid scarab]

https://help.kick.com/en/articles/8010826-how-to-embed-your-kick-livestream

[minor nymph]

A good example of this is the streamer Fextralife.
Their stream is embedded on every page of the fextralife wiki website.

[wheat sleet]

Fextralife got busted doing embeds and now their channel is dead

[rapid scarab]

it seems you can

[tribal bloom]

That explains a LOT to why that wiki site is so bad

[jolly sky]

It's also a garbage wiki with old and incorrect data all over the place

[minor nymph]

They stopped streaming 3 years ago.

[wheat sleet]

They haven't bothered to update it since they're not getting paid to do it anymore

[jolly sky]

It was still incorrect about a lot of things even when they were getting money lmao

[wheat sleet]

I'm pretty sure Asmongold was instrumental in their downfall since he called them out on stream constantly

[serene valley]

no idea who this person is

[tribal bloom]

Probably for the best

[jolly sky]

Hopefully the Wiki.gg guys for Dark Souls 2 get the other games Wiki's up soon, that's been the most comprehensive and correct Wiki for DS2

[rapid scarab]

souls fans are very dedicated

[serene valley]

they got that soul for it

[junior jasper]

https://klipy.com/gifs/gary-spongebob-1--k01KR4AEW2F7GPJ4V929NDA83W4

[rapid scarab]

I am not one tbf, but I came from the hitless comunity and consumed a lot of souls streams

[jolly sky]

The Wiki.gg for DS2 is still fairly new (less than a year old) and they plan to get the other games up too

[rapid scarab]

at least the other souls wikis would be nice

ah btw

today is Sir David Attenborough 100th birthday

(had to copypaste the name D:)

[tribal bloom]

I was worried last night because his name was trending and I assumed the worst

[rapid scarab]

a good news is nice now and then

[minor nymph]

https://x.com/PirateSoftware/status/2052805954715164897

Pirate Software (@PirateSoftware)

The more I see the public discourse on this the less it all makes sense.

If Twitch can identify viewbots through historical data then why can't they strip only viewbots instead of just apply an arbitrary cap on views overall?

It's because they can't.

The viewbots people use

X · May 8, 2026, 5:40 PM

[tribal bloom]

You know thor's mad when he makes a non-shitpost tweet (and every right to be, the twitch thing is mega dumb)

[minor nymph]

I am mad.
This is literally my every day.
Suddenly tons of armchair analysts are hopping in saying Twitch do good because viewbot bad.
They have no idea how any of this shit works.

[wheat sleet]

Twitch is mega dumb every day, they just made a public statement about it

[cyan vapor]

aw dangit, I missed the angry exchange

[wheat sleet]

You can still be angry about it with the rest of us

[serene valley]

really??!?!? twitch said "we mega dumb every day"??!?!

[rapid scarab]

and people will fall for it again

[serene valley]

they should

[rapid scarab]

we can share the angryness

[tribal bloom]

Wasn't that interesting. Just a dude trying to defend the new twitch thing and repeatedly saying the same thing over and over again without ever elaborating what he was talking about

[rapid scarab]

he was like "I dont care about facts because my opinion is importanter"

[cyan vapor]

alright the most common one

[wheat sleet]

Flashback to the "knock" feature and that frog guy

[tribal bloom]

Like... I get the argument that, in a world where viewbotting exists, viewer count is a kinda terrible metric. But... There really isn't an alternative for that ad space

[rapid scarab]

sorry If I am extra spicy today, had to crash my stream because diablo 4 issues and then with the monitor dying on me

[minor nymph]

Removing viewcount is an insane take and one I keep seeing.
How do you think streamers get sponsorships?

[exotic forge]

What is Dan Clancy doing

[rapid scarab]

watching streamers with human dogs

[serene valley]

the real solution is to make viewers answer a captcha before each ad fr fr ||/j just in case||

[minor nymph]

Same ol

[wheat sleet]

Trolling around young girl's hot tub streams?

[minor nymph]

They just need to kill off embeds.

[tribal bloom]

Agreed. And sponsorships are kind awful for small streamers because they either don't qualify or don't make the cutoff for them.

[rapid scarab]

I can confirm xD

[minor nymph]

Traditional sponsorships have dried up since Twitch started the "Support a Streamer" trend.
Personally I like it more. Less contracts. No bullshit. Your community supports you.

[rapid scarab]

last streamelements one I cared to look was a gacha game giving me 1 dollar for a new account that played 8h

[tribal bloom]

Yeah, the stream elements ones are the ones I was talking about. They're kinda awful to hit the minimum before they pay anything

[wheat sleet]

12.5 cents and hour haha make your viewers into slaves!

[rapid scarab]

yeh

my community might be small but would never put them into that

[serene valley]

somehow I thought you meant the sponsorship was you playing the game for 8 hours for 1 dollar

[rapid scarab]

ah no

[serene valley]

but now I realize it was tracking conversions

[rapid scarab]

they are mostly based on how many people you get into it

yeh

[wheat sleet]

No, you don't even get money for playing it. Your advertisement is free.

[serene valley]

as in new players signing up with your code playing for 8 hours

[rapid scarab]

yes

[cyan vapor]

getting ppl hooked on them sweet, sweet waifu slot machines

[rapid scarab]

brand new mails

not even returning ones

[serene valley]

there's slot machine waifus?!?!?

😳

[wheat sleet]

Gachas use drug dealer tactics

[tribal bloom]

Uh.... I think I've read that manga. Wouldn't recommend

[serene valley]

I know about the vending machine one

[rapid scarab]

I used to play one that was quite cool, big boobed vampires on castlevania aesthetic

[serene valley]

https://tenor.com/view/vending-machine-anime-vend-sailor-moon-transformation-gif-16348958847590656760

[rapid scarab]

silver and blood was called

[tribal bloom]

Oh, that one. That one is unironically really good

[split tulip]

but, will it vend

[wheat sleet]

I'm still waiting for Thomas the Tank Engine as an anime

[rapid scarab]

pretty acceptable system for a gacha

[subtle gate]

hey Thor would you recommend Linkedin for job hunting I see windows auto installed on my computer

[serene valley]

it's like, not the best thing ever but it kills time and it's honestly funny to see how many vending machines have existed, at least I assume the vending machines are based in reality

[serene valley]

why's he got sharingan and all mights hair for eyebrows

[wheat sleet]

Because Japan

[split tulip]

whats "Support a Streamer"?

[subtle gate]

https://tenor.com/view/stick-bug-get-stickbugged-lol-get-stick-bugged-stick-bugged-bee-swarm-simulator-gif-26230223

[rapid scarab]

I had to manage multiple companies linkedins. run.

every minute in there you loose some of your soul

[tribal bloom]

Can't lose what you dont' have

[split tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/deal-handshake-group-handshake-gif-13278054

[rapid scarab]

all (and I mean all) job offers in tech are AI related

[tribal bloom]

Unless you can get into soul debt

[rapid scarab]

its the corpo pit of AI

[subtle gate]

ok then that seals that then

[serene valley]

either train the AI, implement the AI, or use the AI 😔

[rapid scarab]

yes

[exotic forge]

Many jobs on linked in are fake and reposted over and over again.

[rapid scarab]

also true

[split tulip]

Be the AI

[wheat sleet]

Slightly better than tech recruiters that got paid off of pure numbers and didn't actually understand the job they were hiriing for.

[rapid scarab]

at least that has human interaction

[serene valley]

from what I can tell so far, the systems and things the AI can make depend on the quality of the engineers using it... vibe coded stuff is like, yea it works but if you look under the hood it's horrible

[subtle gate]

used an old laptop to make a rudimentary resume and now I need to get it out there

[split tulip]

I actually got hired off LinkedIn. still a cesspool tho. glad I don't have to be active there anymore

[serene valley]

which.... well that's just par for the course with tech debt

[rapid scarab]

tbf the daily minigames were cool

[serene valley]

it's better for investors to look like you are hiring rather than not have anythign open

[split tulip]

it's like the old facebook games, but proffessional

[exotic forge]

Vibe coded stuff that the developer couldn't do themselves introduce so much technical debt yeah. It'll probably work but there's going to be weird bugs that'll cost you more time to solve. It also makes scaling the app much much harder and just introduce even more technical debt.

Eventually, there's going to be too much technical debt that you can't AI your way out of and you'll have to restart the whole thing.

[serene valley]

Vibe coded stuff that the developer couldn't do themselves introduce so much technical debt yeah. It'll probably work but there's going to be weird bugs that'll cost you more time to solve

Exactly

[rapid scarab]

listen it was the peak of my office day and its sad

I was better than 50% of the CEOs

[wheat sleet]

https://i.programmerhumor.io/2025/05/1edb3d45ea0b6ba71f4499ac8ceb9fc72c415a92db1a4a9432b2fa19347e4824.jpeg

[exotic forge]

Vibe coding small components does work but you need an actual developer who has a good CS background and also knowledge of the domain so you still bascially need a full-time software engineer

[rapid scarab]

back in my day we went to stackoverflow to copy code

https://tenor.com/view/ursula-stenzel-eyeglasses-read-gif-15036259

[exotic forge]

AI isn't meant to me

[wheat sleet]

I can see it as being a shortcut to actually typing the code itself, but you need someone what would have typed that code in the first place to understand it before sending it to prod.

[serene valley]

stackoverflow is embedded in the models now

[tribal bloom]

I think primeagen described it best: AI is a multiplier. The problem is that some people are 2s, some are 1s, some are 0.5s, and some are actually negative numbers. So it doesn't make them better, it makes them worse faster

[serene valley]

yet

[rapid scarab]

when you had a problem, posted it on stack overflow and no one would comment, so you solved your own problem wrong in the comments <.<

[exotic forge]

That's true. It lets amateurs and bad coders produce more bad code faster

[serene valley]

100x engineer fr fr

whatever that means

[cyan vapor]

it was a great shortcut in my prev workplace to make blender addons for automation/features that blender didnt have, but if I needed anything more complex it was a hassle to have john ai make it work

[tribal bloom]

it was -100 x engineer and you just deleted your company's main repo and all the backups

[worthy ivy]

also, why are you making the thing is a consideration

I'm making a thing to learn how godot works
if I throw that at an AI I'll be faster maybe?

but I'm not gonna learn jack if I do that

is a results multiplier, but isn't a benefit multiplier neccessarily

[serene valley]

oooo I can do that

:3

haha oops I removed the french language pack

[exotic forge]

I just thought of something that bothered me. I'll stray away from it if need be but Primeagen keeps saying he works for Netflix so why can't Thor say he worked for Blizzard?

[brisk sparrow]

if anything it can be a benefits negator

[exotic forge]

fyi am a fan of both content creators

[tribal bloom]

is a results multiplier, but isn't a benefit multiplier neccessarily

Basically, yeah. You'll only ever get better if the AI gets better. Your personal skills do not change

[rapid scarab]

I am learning between the difference between OLED and QLED today

[serene valley]

one is queer

surely

[rapid scarab]

hahaha

the price tag it seems

[exotic forge]

It's tricky. Yes throwing in AI to make the boilerplate for you is going to speed up learning if the boilerplate is something you're already familiar with.

It's dangerous because that method may make you constantly skip stuff and produce many gaps in your knowledge that you may or not know about.

[tribal bloom]

People meme on prime about it, just not to the extent since he doesn't have as big of a userbase. Also the mustache deflects criticism

[rapid scarab]

also he uses arch

[tribal bloom]

That's like someone saying your shirt is ugly and responding by immediately removing your pants

[junior jasper]

yeah im working on academy atm and when we get new guy to our department i always say to brake our matlab set first and then try to repair it

[rapid scarab]

listen I would do it

[junior jasper]

you want them to compliment your

https://klipy.com/gifs/nicecock--k01KR4CDCKW44SG7ZR3APYY85PT

[rapid scarab]

listen I have a cool centipede:

also 69 gold

[junior jasper]

oo that have some feet for sure

[rapid scarab]

her name is Cupcake

[tribal bloom]

You can't use that, that's my brother's nickname. He had it first

[junior jasper]

oo

[junior jasper]

but my name is Aavistus

[tribal bloom]

I was talking about 'Cupcake'

[rapid scarab]

is your brother a centipede?

[prisma wing]

https://tenor.com/view/gir-eating-cupcake-cartoon-network-gif-13168929

[tribal bloom]

Not currently, but he's flying out to Thailand for surgery so he might be one by the time he comes back

[rapid scarab]

nice

[junior jasper]

BROTHER you did not say no to my claim

so cupcake is our other brother

good to know

[tribal bloom]

He's open market, so if you want to share claim that is okay

[junior jasper]

dont sell our brother

[tribal bloom]

I ain't selling him, he's free

[exotic forge]

Love him but sometimes he yaps too much lol

[tribal bloom]

Yeah, he's in my folder of streamers where I like clips and videos of them but not actual streams. I have another folder of streamers that I like only when they're doing collabs

[rapid scarab]

found a nice and cheap monitor

is white

my setup is black

[tribal bloom]

So it can't jump, that's fine

[wheat sleet]

Don't cheap out. You end up paying more than once.

(You already are)

[tribal bloom]

Sometimes even if you don't cheap out, you pay more than once. Like when my cat decided to knock over my brand new monitor because I was paying more attention to it than him

[prisma wing]

cats are dicks like that

[rapid scarab]

I knew someone whose cat bited into the monitor

and cracked it

[wheat sleet]

Monitor stand fail

[rapid scarab]

also is second monitor, I dont game or do anyhting there really

[subtle gate]

cats are dykes like that

[tribal bloom]

I had to do this for the replacement

[prisma wing]

have they tried again, since?

[tribal bloom]

Not as aggressively, no. But he walks on the window sill behind it all the time

[prisma wing]

watching...waiting

[tribal bloom]

He's also just a big cat so it doesn't take much for him to knock stuff over

Intentional or otherwise

[wheat sleet]

I have my monitors on arms clamped to the desk

No possibility of toppling by cat

[tribal bloom]

I'd clamp mine but it was a quick fix at the time and I haven't been bothered to get the clamps

[wheat sleet]

They chew on the cords though... all of them are nylon braided now

[tribal bloom]

Chewing isn't an issue. I have a spray bottle of bitterant and banana scent

[wheat sleet]

I just have an active sound deterrent. Yelling

[tribal bloom]

That doesn't work if I'm not looking

[prisma wing]

I just didnt get a new cat when my sweet Twylight passed away....cords are safe

my doggos have so many toys that they dont think to chew on stuff they shouldnt

[tribal bloom]

My cat is smart, fortunately and unfortunately.
He generally only does things he's not supposed to when he's in the same room as me, because he's doing it for attention.

[wheat sleet]

Buy a cat hundreds of dollars worth of purpose built scratchers and those a-holes still tear into the couch because cat

[prisma wing]

yup...reasons why i miss my cat... but not really

Now i just put up with 4 doggos hogging the bed

[tribal bloom]

Heh. He's actually a pretty good boy about that stuff. If he wants to play and get attention, he'll try politely for a bit before moving on to more... empathic requests.

[tribal bloom]

And will just slowly escalate

[rapid scarab]

got a 27' dell one

112 bucks

[prisma wing]

that's not bad at all Red

[wheat sleet]

27 feet wow what a deal

[rapid scarab]

yeh I know the brand

HAHHA

[prisma wing]

i think i spent around $140 on my last one when its predecessor died

the way Kuhp and I have our rigs set up, we dont have room for multi monitors, unfortunately

Alt+tab is my friend

[subtle gate]

I thought it was alt f4

[rapid scarab]

me until sunday with 1 monitor:

[subtle gate]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-the-hedgehog-sonic-for-hire-intro-sad-gif-16030489

[wheat sleet]

You're not a console peasant yet

It's still a PC

[rapid scarab]

jesus no

[subtle gate]

if only I had gone into archery instead of getting this pc

[rapid scarab]

I am bad just not as bad

[prisma wing]

ugh, i have to play navigator at work....ppl

bbl*

[wheat sleet]

Very telling: https://x.com/i/status/2052705309722825126

Dexerto (@Dexerto)

Streamer IShowSpeed admits his 1.92 million viewer stream was viewbotted and actually peaked at 300k concurrent watchers

“It was a great stream ... [but] we never broke our record ... I talked to the YouTube reps. Somebody botted it”

X · May 8, 2026, 11:00 AM

[rapid scarab]

dude once my pc broke and had to watch thor on the switch 1

had chat on phone

[wheat sleet]

I have sat in the dark during a power outage while it was storming watching Thor on my phone

[rapid scarab]

yeeeh

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3008740/Winter_Burrow/ cute survival game

Steam

Winter Burrow

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In Winter Burrow, you play a mouse who returns from the big city to find their childhood home in ruins. To make matters worse, your Aunt (who was supposed to be looking after it) has gone missing. Resto…

Price

$13.99

Recommendations

2399

[quartz sonnet]

Me: "400+ messages on a no stream day? What happened?!?"

Caught up at least lol

[wheat sleet]

Chat had to entertain itself

[rapid scarab]

things happened

[wheat sleet]

Looks like Discord is shitting the bed again

Wait, maybe just a hiccup

[serene valley]

no it is

image didn't even upload

I posted it twice

[quartz sonnet]

GiFs are going fubar

[serene valley]

thrice even

anyway discordstatus says there's errors in the API systems

[wheat sleet]

Yep images getting eaten

[brisk sparrow]

Identified - We have identified the issue. Many users are unable to start their sessions at this time
May 08, 2026 - 12:24 PDT
Investigating - We're investgating errors in our API systems.
May 08, 2026 - 12:08 PDT`

from the status page

[subtle gate]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-have-any-idea-how-little-that-narrows-it-down-blight-batman-beyond-funny-narrow-it-down-gif-25176406

[brisk sparrow]

explain this power

[subtle gate]

https://tenor.com/view/umm-ok-um-okay-hmm-wait-gif-15827095

[warm trench]

$75 Dollar cat "tree" ... $.001 straw - infinate playtime

[tribal bloom]

Can confirm. Cat is currently sleeping in a shipping box with an old coat in it rather than his cat tree with its nice hammock

[verbal kayak]

Cats do what cats gotta do

[warm trench]

Discord still crapping it's own pants .. I would have shared my cat preventing me from sitting down at my desk and pretending to ignore me.

[azure finch]

Discord is committing crimes, denying cats. I don't know which crimes, but definitely crimes.

[subtle gate]

https://tenor.com/view/community-gif-23728528

I hate that my idle games don't tick forword unless I'm actively watching them

[tender field]

Testing...

[subtle gate]

Testing

what are we testing?

[tender field]

Discord died for like a minute or two

[subtle gate]

I thought it was quiet

in the absense of sound make some

[tribal nest]

Did Discord unshit itself?

[blissful imp]

Xbox mode is now a thing for windows 11 and will actually either give you better 1% lows or just straight up better fps. https://youtu.be/LPlWKbp-TWI

[coarse python]

i think

[subtle gate]

works fine for me

must be pretty bad for it to be this quiet

[blissful imp]

discords servers are dying atm. everything is taking a bit to load

[warped venture]

oh wow I can finally get in

[tender field]

bread delivery system working. nice

[wheat sleet]

Images work now too

[tender field]

lemme test it as well...

[quartz sonnet]

React emotes are working again!

[wheat sleet]

Bed must have been unshit

[blissful imp]

the timing is crazy. i had no issues getting into discord. i woke up like an hour ago and first launched Discord maybe 15 minutes ago.

i woke up and discord fixed itself. this is the 2nd time this has happened funny enough

[minor nymph]

https://x.com/PirateSoftware/status/2052860342154477940

Pirate Software (@PirateSoftware)

@djclancy999 It's impossible for the public to verify a claim of 0.37% which makes this post harder to agree with. It's easy to find services that provide exactly what I'm talking about with embedded stream views through distributed online sources.

Why is Twitch counting views from any

X · May 8, 2026, 9:17 PM

[wheat sleet]

You can't attack that man with logic. He only understands money and girls.

[blissful imp]

Does Dan understand money? has twitch gained any money ever since Dan became the CEO? Granted i don't think twitch made money under the previous CEO, but twitch's moderation was way better under the previous CEO even tho he wasn't public at all.

Dan clancy has made great decisions, but also very strange and bad decisions. moderation being one of those with how loose its been lately.

[wheat sleet]

Just because he understands it doesn't mean he's any good at acquiring it. Not just the money.

[subtle gate]

I understand money does that mean I get a lot of it

[exotic forge]

Thank god competition like Kick exists

[tribal bloom]

I am biased against Kick and I don't think there is much they can (or will) do to change that opinion, but I'd rather not get pushed to that platform because Twitch is nosediving into the ground.

[exotic forge]

I'm curious about the growth of Twitch under the previous CEO vs under Dan actually

[exotic forge]

Yeah I'm mostly speaking about competition and possible alternatives in general in case one of these platforms just go insane

[tribal bloom]

I know... I'd just rather competition push other to improve and not act as a safety net in case one implodes

[exotic forge]

Kick would have to grow even more and then that's a possibility

[tribal bloom]

Well, here's hoping

[golden mirage]

Unfortunately, competition like that takes time to build.

[exotic forge]

To make a wrestling analogy, it's like WWE and AEW. Don't think WWE actually is threatened by AEW yet. But it's an alternative right now and if they were to experience significant growth then it'll truly be an equal competition

[tribal bloom]

I get it, just bemoaning how the world is rather than how I'd like it to be

[golden mirage]

Fair, I feel the same often.

[wheat sleet]

March 2023 is when Dan took over, shrunk since

Source: https://www.businessofapps.com/data/twitch-statistics/

[tribal bloom]

It was already on a downward trend before that, so it's hard to say how much can be attributed to him

[wheat sleet]

Downward trend was because of covid explosion

[exotic forge]

Thor, I think Twitch's mind is made up on this unfortunately

[tribal bloom]

Yeah, it feels more like a correction than anything. Still not a good sign they aren't retaining more

[quartz sonnet]

I would attribute some of that to normalization post covid when folks were more comfortable leaving home, mandatory lockdowns ending etc. I'd be more interested in seeing what 2025 and 2026 looks like, but probably won't see that data for awhile.

[golden mirage]

Covid was such a weird anomaly for everything that its hard to say what is independent and what is fallout still. Twitch may have peaked in 21 but is the reduction just a stabilization from that or fall off from bad decisions? Almost impossible to say.

[tribal bloom]

Exactly. And the economy isn't doing great either, so that also means less leisure time
EDIT: And money spent by corporations for ads too, now that I think of it

[golden mirage]

True

[wheat sleet]

People returning to normalcy with outside the home entertainment is likely the reason for most of the decline. It's not like anyone really wanted to stay home for months (except Thor)

[quartz sonnet]

I would like to stay home 99% of my existence as well, but I must also go out in the Sun every so once in awhile

[exotic forge]

I hated staying at home for that long

[tribal bloom]

Ironically, being stuck together 24/7 for two years due to covid actually helped my wife and I's relationship instead of hurting it xD

[wheat sleet]

That's probably an outlier. Many MANY of my friends became single after the lockdowns ended.

[tribal bloom]

It forced us to actually talk shit out that we'd been keeping in and we've been much happier ever since

[golden mirage]

Congrats, hope you have many more wonderful years together.

[tribal bloom]

Yeah, I've seen that with a lot of people too.
That's what I meant by it being ironic. xD

[quartz sonnet]

That's rad, glad you folks figured out that bridge!

[tribal bloom]

TY! We're at 20 years together now (only married for 4 though)

[wheat sleet]

A lot of relationships bank on having a portion of their lives private, even in a commited relationship

Spending 24/7/365 with no privacy is quite jarring

Even if it's just the commute to and from work

[exotic forge]

Back to the story, so Dan Clancy replied to the embeds issue stating according to their data, embed streams only accounted for 0.37%. what do you think about this?

[wheat sleet]

Bullshit number

[exotic forge]

So I guess they'll just provide a fake number and then sweep this topic aside sigh

[wheat sleet]

Anything to get back in advertisers pockets

Except, you know, work

[tribal bloom]

Even if that number is true, that's still a lot of watch hours. Twitch Tracker estimates april had 1.4 billion watch hours so 0.37% would still be ~5 million watch hours. That's not a lot for the platform, but it's not going to be uniformly spread out

[blissful imp]

its kinda difficult as the previous CEO was around for a while including the explosion in 2020, but 2020 doesn't seem fair as that was due to the lockdown going on. but twitch was still growing prior to 2020, and since Dan has stepped in as CEO twitch has fallen, but how much of that is twitch naturally falling off or due to the world opening up back in 2022.

[golden mirage]

It may be accurate, depends on context. For example, Twitch has many thousands of streamers on it, how many of them have the access and knowledge to have a website and embed streams into it? Probably a small percent. Of those that do, what percent actually derive any meaningful traffic? Probably a small percent.

[earnest cove]

how is twitch shooting themselves in the foot today?

[tribal bloom]

They're capping CCV for any channels suspected of viewbotting.

[blissful imp]

shitty moderation lately. using genai for category art. other stuff.

[earnest cove]

I got no words

[tribal bloom]

Technically, you had 4 words

[earnest cove]

i'm both surprised and not surprised

[wheat sleet]

With no real way to prove it, they're just stealing from creators that have explosive growth

[earnest cove]

i didn't want to spam dots which is more in line with how i feel

[quartz sonnet]

Absolutely wild thing to do. They're just incentivizing folks to jump ship as soon as a stable platform comes into being.

[tribal bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-crossed-arms-pikachu-eyes-closed-pokemon-gif-15194868

[blissful imp]

i mean would this affect the revenue streamers are getting?

it would affect ads and companies wanting to show ads on twitch due to lower view counts.

[golden mirage]

Capping CCV only feels like a valid response to the scenario of a streamer paying for the viewbotting on their own stream to defraud advertisers. In all other scenarios its punishing the streamers for something they didn't do.

[silver stump]

btw how would this affect a small streamer getting raided by a larger one

or the ferret stream raid at the end of thor's streams

[quartz sonnet]

Heaven forbid the streamer in question is being attacked by malicious actors wanting them to get kneecapped financially.

[tribal bloom]

Advertisers don't want to pay premium for ad space if they think a significant chunk are bots. So twitch can't charge them as much.

That's why they're doing all these weird changes/tests (pausing streams you aren't looking at, this change, etc.) is because they want to go to advertisers and say "Okay, we increased how many views are legitimate and so we can now charge you more for the ad space."

[golden mirage]

Probably not much. There's a system record of the raid and number of people moving over. That should easily be ruled out as a potential view bot scenario.

[wheat sleet]

Iirc they did that with the partner program before

[tribal bloom]

Or if Neuro-sama raids some small vtuber and their career suddenly explodes. Depending on the timing and the cap they implement, that can be a LOT of money lost by a small streamer that could really use it

[blissful imp]

but cutting off the view counts doesn't remove the bots... it just makes the streamers look less impressive view count wise.

if Advertisers don't like bots, this doesn't solve the issue.

unless the advertisers are ran by dumbasses

[tribal bloom]

They don't mind if bots see the ad revenue, they don't want to pay for bots seeing it. If they cap CCV on a channel that is botting, twitch can say "See, we're protecting you" to the advertisers

It's basically corporate virtue signaling

"Look how fine and majestic my capitalism is!"

[wheat sleet]

Stealing from creators with the goal of appeasing advertisers. Sounds great

[exotic forge]

Sounds like a perfect Dan Clancy plan

[serene valley]

they are

[wheat sleet]

Without a way to prove what is a legitimate viewer it's all just Twitch skimming off the top

[blissful imp]

https://tenor.com/view/dan-clancy-danclancy-twitch-ill-fix-it-i'll-fix-it-gif-5733967507585282062

[silver stump]

also because reccomendation alogritms are a snowball effect, points of rapid growth are how most medium to large streamers form

[blissful imp]

there's a few Dan Clancy gifs in gif search.

[tribal bloom]

Yup. CC careers are kind of like fissile material. It doesn't do much until you hit critical mass and then it explodes.

[blissful imp]

twitch doesn't really have a recommendation algorithm minus the front page, but most people i'd imagine use the browse section of twitch then just scroll the categories. the king maker system.

[tribal bloom]

Even if they had a proper algorithm for discovery, those still usually favor those with explosive growth

[blissful imp]

not saying people don't use the front page as their are tons that do. there was someone recently who normally gets 100 viewers normally, then they got put on the front page and got boosted to more than 3k viewers.

iirc

[tribal bloom]

Yeah, getting visibility on twitch just sucks. If you're in a category people care about, you need at minimum 50+ viewers to appear in the first couple dozen rows on twitch. If you are in a less popular category, you don't get new viewers because no one goes to that category.

Like, my wife frequently streams in categories where she's the top of the category but only because she's either the only one in the category or there's only like 2-3 other people.

[blissful imp]

this is why the best method is to stream in less popular hours so it'll be easier to be seen. Also if its got Drops.

And not saying its perfect because its not.

[tribal bloom]

Right now, discoverability on twitch is basically only categories (which only works for the most popular streamers) and raids (and people tend to raid within small communities)

So your best ticket to quick success is getting raided by someone MUCH bigger than you. Otherwise, it's a very slow process

[wheat sleet]

If you want visibility on Twitch you need to be visible off site. Twitch has zero discoverability for thr hundreds of thousands of small streamers

Ex, Thor using shorts, or people playing his games

[exotic forge]

Or I guess collab with large streamers

[blissful imp]

this is also why its best to use different sites like youtube, twitter, etc to grow on Twitch or Kick.

[tribal bloom]

At least in the vtuber space, it's pretty cliquey so it's hard to get collabs with big streamers unless you're a friend-of-a-friend type thing

[wheat sleet]

A large streamer won't usually even respond to a small one, let alone give them time for a collab

[tribal bloom]

TBF, it feels like coat-tail riding behavior so I really don't blame any streamer not wanting to engage with it

[minor nymph]

https://x.com/PirateSoftware/status/2052874166920179761

Pirate Software (@PirateSoftware)

@thrillhouse01 @djclancy999 It's not thousands of dollars and it's happened to me before. You are vastly overstating the difficulty of doing this.

The moment someone gets flagged for this and their views are capped it's going to be a shitshow of hate for that creator. The numbers don't even matter at that

X · May 8, 2026, 10:11 PM

[blissful imp]

Speaking of Twitter. they recently made a change to how they give out revenue.

Someone posted their monthly earnings and they made more than $6,000 usd on twitter the last 2 months. Saying twitter now pays them more than youtube.

[wheat sleet]

Twitter is paying out to people reposting stuff that they didn't make in the first place. It's incentivizing engagment baiting

[subtle gate]

https://tenor.com/view/dean-the-iron-giant-enough-for-one-day-gif-10102868

https://youtu.be/XO_g9EqCXok?si=-Yoteh0h4fWfZXKH

[subtle gate]

no one?

[west plinth]

huh?

[subtle gate]

I was thinking it was a dead chat but it's only been 30 minutes

[west plinth]

well it is midnihght across europe

so yeah, sleepy time

[subtle gate]

one of those "you're one of those guys" moments

[west plinth]

you just made me check my terrible sleeping habbit

[subtle gate]

[west plinth]

anyways, bye

[subtle gate]

good night

[river cargo]

I remember thor said that twitter payout for him is super low, the lowest of all platforms, I think it's very biased based on what content you post and how close you are too spacex stuff

[subtle gate]

got home from my walk to the local autozone to see if the job opening I was told about is on their website yet just to get there and see what I could've seen from home

https://tenor.com/view/pirate-software-piratesoftware-drink-water-thor-drink-gif-9478181560602122273

vanity of vanities

🫠

[minor nymph]

https://x.com/PirateSoftware/status/2052892283805303021

Pirate Software (@PirateSoftware)

For those saying that embeds no longer work or that this route was fixed I went and tested it myself.

I used an unmonetized alt account and created an embed using an iframe that was a 1x1 pixel. I then gave the webpage for this to a number of people and instructed them to view

X · May 8, 2026, 11:23 PM

Twitch is straight up lying about the issue.

Tested and proven.

[crimson tangle]

so....fextralife had no reason to quit streaming in 2023?

he fell for twitch's bluff

[rapid scarab]

all of us who tasted it counted as viewers

100%

[minor nymph]

We literally just tested it.

[rapid scarab]

yep

[minor nymph]

You can see when they loaded the 1x1 embed.

Twitch lied.

[crimson tangle]

so, you're saying that for almost 3 years twitch lied about embed requirements?

[minor nymph]

Yes

[blissful imp]

no. its based on how good each tweet does for you. likes, replies, retweets.

[crimson tangle]

sounds like something to call dan clancy out over

[flat dew]

Honestly, the only reason I see them doing something like this is so they can somehow keep from paying out as much to creators by capping viewer count

[minor nymph]

100% that is my claim yes.
We just tested it and every one of the clients counted as a viewer.
All of them were viewing on incognito tab.
All of them saw a blank page with a 1x1 embedded twitch broadcast in an iframe.
All of them counted as a viewer.

[rapid scarab]

its almost they showed of to advertisers "how much people watch twitch" and now they are realizing the bots dont buy things

[subtle gate]

"I had the feeling that was the case, egg"

[rapid scarab]

and to try and appease advertisers to come back

its a "come back I have changed" move

[minor nymph]

https://x.com/PirateSoftware/status/2052894290691711002

Pirate Software (@PirateSoftware)

@jcrichman The views are absolutely counted as per my test above. You can see the exact moment their browsers loaded the 1x1 embed. Everyone keeps trying to look the other way but this needs to be handled.

X · May 8, 2026, 11:31 PM

You can see the moment their browsers loaded the page.

[silver stump]

is this why the debt tracker fired on actual pirates?

[subtle gate]

https://youtube.com/shorts/gcI1S_jvRlY?si=cLoyLFx2Uqjc5yCc

[river cargo]

what did i just come back to lol, twitch were lying the entire time?

[rapid scarab]

yes

[minor nymph]

Yes.

https://x.com/PirateSoftware/status/2052893183194099913

Pirate Software (@PirateSoftware)

@GamingWithDaOpa @djclancy999 The parent parameter is an array. You can put as many sites in there as you like. At scale this can be used to dilute the issue. Not sure how they are actually doing it but this is a possible route.

X · May 8, 2026, 11:27 PM

[blissful imp]

this just in big company lies in 2026

https://tenor.com/view/shocker-shocked-futurama-im-shocked-gif-5296191

[river cargo]

Can you show me this account so I can compare lol, I remember elon once paid certain people extra....

https://x.com/NebsGoodTakes/status/1861796002082251171

Neb | 🏳️‍🌈 (@NebsGoodTakes)

she mentions here how she was getting payouts of around $40-$60 which is normal for an account of that size (I get a fuckload of engagement and my payments are a little less) until it jumped to tens of thousands for no apparent reason

X · Nov 27, 2024, 3:35 PM

which is just classic elon

[rapid scarab]

here in spain we have a saying, thar roughly translates to "in the basement of your failure there is always another floor"

twitch doesnt surprise me anymore

[minor nymph]

I make like 100$ per payout on Twitter

6k is wild

[river cargo]

Exactly I remember you saying that on stream sometime

Maybe you just aren't attractive enough for daddy Elon

[minor nymph]

I am 100% ok with that.

[blissful imp]

like what that account says. its based on engagement. the higher numbers you get on a tweet and of course the more tweets you put out, the higher the payment you get every month.

and actually your level of twitter blue sub no joke. as you can see by this screenshot. depending on the sub you purchase you'll get a reply boost. the biggest being from premium+

[rapid scarab]

thats why I dont engage with twitter ragebait

they capitalized toxicity

[blissful imp]

the reply boost basically means twitter is p2w. as you're paying for technically an advantage in the algorithm. although i hate calling it an advantage as its posting stuff on a social media platform.

[wicked schooner]

Paint me like one of your french ferrets

[tender field]

Morning AIR

[wicked schooner]

Morning

Im sludging through a behemoth wall of text in streamchat right now

Brb

[subtle gate]

I haven't done anything and it's almost the end of the day

https://tenor.com/view/age-of-empires2intro-gif-22696385

[wicked schooner]

Ive reached the end

[round plover]

I need to learn to never look at comments from Thor's posts...I get mad

[tranquil jewel]

20x is wild

[quartz sonnet]

Hot damn. That's hella payouts. More funds for the Ferrets!

[flat dew]

Holy carp! That's outstanding! Way to go, fellow goblins!

[muted robin]

I thought we already knew that places like fextralife were inflating their numbers by having livestreams embedded in their wiki pages? How is this news

Are people just arguing about it because it's you saying it?

I watched an asmongold video on it like 2 years ago and the video itself was even older

[blissful imp]

And to think. that's ONLY with 600 average viewers from a 12 hour stream.

now imagine what it'd look like if the average viewership was the twitch viewership of like 2.5k

And of course just imagine what people with 30k viewers are getting paid on kick

but. 30k on twitch brings in a lot of Ad rev anyways sooooo.

[blissful imp]

twitch lied and said it was fixed after it was found out Fextralife uses embeds on their wiki.

[distant rapids]

Honestly i just really am hating twitch more and more for political reasons. A certain streamer i despise (not asmon hilariously) gets special treatment even though he has said things that can actually get him in trouble with the fbi and I'm sick of twitch letting him get away with misinfo campaigns

So even of im... neutral negative towards kick, i might even have that perspective change due to sheer annoyance and frustration with twitch allowing Certain People to get away with breaking their own tos

[blissful imp]

is this hasan?

[distant rapids]

:]

[river cargo]

he and asmon are the worst

[subtle gate]

[tender field]

And asmon's youtube videos are just him saying, "I agree with that. Actually, it's bad". Half a million views

[west hawk]

Those Kick analytics are wild!

[river cargo]

I do wonder how much the pay differential changes if you're starting off as a smaller streamer

[subtle gate]

https://youtube.com/shorts/0t-VeyQV3zU?si=bfTuCk0TZxbwDQno Diffusement go