#New season benchmarks news
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I posted it on the modmail but ill repost here for the record.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/955168338202492968/955168709650034768/unknown.png
i havent done advanced yet but my input for right now if yall want it, i think multiclick is too easy. bounceshot and bouncestrafe are WAY too hard. those felt like i was grinding for a gm score. i had to get top 3 on both of them to get master. evats is slightly too hard.
Goodstuff! :D
been hard grinding the new benches bouncets is killing me too dank for me right now (just did 40mins of it)
For the history. #1 static hater
I cannot post screenshots here, any idea why?
I would like to submit my old and new scores
I also can't post screens, I had my S1 vs S2 Aim Lab sheets ready...
upload to imgur and post
S1 Intermediate - Diamond Complete (Jade in all categories except Click Timing) - https://imgur.com/GtvzNxi
S2 Intermediate - Jade - https://imgur.com/de5GlDa
My feedback:
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Dynamic Click Timing S2 scores are way too high. Granted, it is my weakest category, but I was still over diamond in S1 and now I'm not even close to reach Platinum in S2. Something is way off.
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VT Steadytrack Intermediate - again scores look way off? I was Jade in precise tracking S1 and, as you can see, almost master in S2 VT Suavetrack, yet I can't even reach Platinum score here.
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VT Skyswitch Intermediate - scores requisites can't be right. I was Jade S1 in this same exact scenario (had a different name) and now I can't even reach platinum.
you probably can't post cuz you don't have member role
which requires level 5
mee6
why are people posting progression pics
thought this channel is meant to post beta sheet and s3 sheet for mods to adjust the score targets
i cant insert image for some reason
and its problematic to upload anything to imgur in russia
gyazo or other service works
ok my bad
The requirement to post is level 5 mee6, alternatively use a screenshot service such as gyazo or imgur, or put a discord screenshot link.
ye
S3: https://imgur.com/VjBL0Bh
S4 Beta: https://imgur.com/KyuUghE
The transition from Novice to Intermediate is a bit rough.
yeah gp needs a buff
true i shouldn't really have any jade scens
Skystrafe and bouncets are to me really hard compared to others scenarios and anglestrafe's pretty easy tho
(on the intermediate sheet)*
yeah bouncets is kinda tough
also I did like 5 runs on average on the other scenarios (once or twice a day for 3 days) but this one I did it like 10 times a day I'm climbing little by little but It's nowhere near the requirements from last season b180T similar scenario
yeah scores were lower on like saturday
but they needed a buff
now they a bit too hard compared to evats
imo
True I think it could use a bit of a nerf
its in #announcements
on the new map for the benchmarks, "vt ground varied", could any of the map owners change the movement speed for the player character, so if u press they movement keys u wont get teleported out of the map?
movement speed 0 does the trick, just tested it
took me 50 tries to get master in the new smoothbot
We know that by limiting movement you won't be shot up, the teleport out of the map is intentional so that players can not manipulate the bot's movement by moving as a player.
If you find yourself hitting your movement keys often by accident, I recommend unbinding them temporarily or resting your keyboard hand off of your keyboard.
then the air varied should have the same logic, but its locked
The Air Varied scenario does not use the same strafe logic, so it doesn't have that issue
Is it just me or does skyTS intermediate bench feel too high
its slightly too hard at most
seems easy enough to get master to me but i was also nova vox s3
i got master in the old vox thing and can only get diamond here
smurfing 
yeah its funny that bouncets 66th percentile isn't even plat
what is median
616
what is 66th
Do i need videos of novice benches or just screenshots. Same for intermediate and advanced.
i assume screenshots are enough
they want to compare if your current rank is in sync with your S4 rank
you need ur vods uploaded to YouTube if you're applying to GM+ ranks
650
so basically only the advanced scenarios
So only screenshots for novice and intermediate?
there's only 3 people who got master for bouncets
Cause I need those for the pre-req
just do eva for now its free got dia first try
correct
im finna throw hands with whoever nerfed gp
yeah I think like 630 is closer to plat
was it nerfed?
it was buffed for inter
yes they shifted all the ranks up by a whole rank
i went from barely jade to barely diamond 
(needed tbh)
true
I mean for a gmc, which he is
i had to grind nothing but horizontal tracking for a week straight to get a gm score in gp
and it was a lucky score
i suck dick at gp
gotta work on it then 💪
everytime i get better at it i lose all my skill in a few days 
advanced gp is tough asf
this took 6 days of grinding for like 5 hours a day (breaks of course) nothing but horizontal tracking and smoothness all day. slowest ive ever improved. got so nervous on bot 5 i started shaking my lead was so good. impossible to track when the bot goes ADADAD still dont know how to do it right lol. never playing this again idk how i persisted ...
im so shaky in it idk why
not shaky in anything else
i shake so bad on bot 5
just A I M
I get that tho
when u track all the bots rly good
and then get excited whatever
happened to me multiple times on air
try without hitsound so you can't hear if you're doing good
doesn't help
i can feel it
xd
but I got over it anyway so
just play some relaxing music
don't think
same lol
and im like ?????
im convinced the strat is to just think you're bad 100% of the time
I just use gm fundamemtals, and put 1-2 benches where I need to get highscore
play in totally random order
so I treat it like a routine, not a bench
ez
Did 6 runs on the new novice benches.. Considering my S3 highscores and averages I feel smoothbot and multiclick 120 might be a little bit too hard and preciseorb and bouceshot a bit too easy.
Also, should I even be gold on the new benches with only 2 gold scores?
you are very close to gold on most of your silver scores and are way over on some of your gold scores. it takes the best of the two scens for each 6 categories. so yes.
new season did 1 full run of the playlist 3 repetitions of each scenario
make sure u put ur old bench sheet so they can compare (s3)
thats good for the benchmark (shows they are good scoring)
these are all the higest scores i could make in 2-5 runs
for all of them in both season 3 and 4
Gave each bench 5 runs and this was the best out of those 5.
smoothbot and bounceTS were annoying for me but smoothbot has been a big weakness for me especially with my injury. bounceTS was just too fast and small. PreciseOrb was def the easiest. Bot size might be a tad too big.
i used to get consistent master on smoothbot
but it took me 50 attempts to get master
xd
Quick run of benches, only a few runs at most, will try to grind more throughout the week. Also a little bit rusty because of spring breake, but hopefully I can get caught up to provide more reliable data
how are you supposed to get gold complete if this isnt gold complete
buff gp back down 200 points, only 2 people have master. thoughts?
yeah ngl feels a bit rough getting plat gp after getting master like 2 months ago
i agree
It's supposed to be though
Scenario may share similarities with its predecessor
But you can't expect to match your pbs again
then again looking at it only 8 ppl have masters multiclick and a few are novas
yea i gave feedback to nerf it but i think they nerfed it too much
so imo multiclick needed a nerf but only to 165, not 170
i can get 165 every try, cant get 170 until i warm up a bit. clicking is my strength so last season i could easily get master every try
Definitely fair, I'm going to need to dedicate more time to grind out these scenarios before I give a more formulated opinion
I went from silver to iron on the bench mark
Haven’t completely benchmarked s3 since 2 months but yeah
try imgur
we getting any buffs? everyone's just getting nerfed over and over 
i just went back to s3 benchmarks and got a master score in pgti first try. i am struggling to get master in preciseorb in s4. nerfing preciseorb by a rank and a half was a bit too much...
getting master this season feels like trying to get gm
nerfs or riot
@hazy folio
u mean buffs?
Yeah, I got nerfed hard, but I am technically still a beginner so I don't mind
to me a score nerf = the score gets easier to achieve
score buff = score becomes harder?
that's how i've always heard it
i figured it was nerf means the score becomes harder because you cant abuse the previously easy scenario to get a higher rank
and buff means score is easier
uhhh, idk LOL. Maybe I'm just too entrenched in the aiming lingo
but that's how i've always thought of it too
well in any case, precise orb master threshold is too high
just took me 30 tries to get master
im not sure why the score got raised by a rank and a half
thats basically gm
yeah i looked at your feedback and talked to sini about it like a couple hours ago
i think we're def gonna reassess some of these scores. like pasu, and the tracking ones i've seen so far
cause yeah, do agree w/ you
i think the objective was to make this season slightly harder than last though. just not to the degree some scens currently are.
But also, take what i say with a grain of salt since i don't have my PC and have been somewhat disconnected from this season's benchmarks
i read somewhere that they were gonna be easier >_<
Ooooops
i cant back that up though cuz idr where i read it
Is this for all ranks, or weighted for the top-end? Like, are Iron-Gold meant to all be harder this season?
i went from 3 jade evasive target switch scores s3 to 1 diamond 1 plat. feelsbad
the gap between gold and plat must be huge
with all the buff to the intermediate scores
yet at the same time the gap between master and grandmaster is very small
because master is so hard
i just started advanced and gm does not seem that much more difficult
master is just grandmaster on different sized targets tbh
fair
from my end im struggling with a few scores to get them to plat but im just easy no brain 1 banging the golds if i completely destroy the rank below but struggle with the plat im like there do be a gap xD
ur arent the only one. one of my buddies who was mostly diamond and some master is struggling to get plat complete
but at the same time i have diamond scores so im like am i too bad or unlucky
big oof
the benchmarks arent properly adjusted yet. some are way harder than others
like preciseorb
way too hard
everyday i have woken up to me being kicked out of plat and spend the day hard grinding to get it back to lose it again xD 
besides all the scoring stuff this season is amazing the new scenarios and movement are sick
im just glad there are no gauntlets
with the unfortunate trade off of having 4 reactive tracking scens instead of 3


i was diamond/jade in most scens and now im diamond only
can you get master by having 800 energy in the advanced level or do you need to play intermediate
You can't use the energy thresholds interchangeably
👍
Would be really hard to balance that, but it's something we can consider
@hazy folio advanced scores are not final as well?
If I get a score on the new benchmarks right now can I use it for when s4 comes out?
Prolly not
What if nothing changes on the scenario except for the score requirement, or nothing changes on it at all?
It's just safer for me to say no, because we can't possibly keep track of all the constant changes we're making to the benchmarks and then comparing it to when someone achieved a said score
The leaderboards will likely also get wiped as everything gets released
Ok thanks
maybe a single rank bleeding over into the other difficulties would be cool for the future but its prob not necessary to do more than that
so u could get gm with intermediate and master with advanced but not any more
i was thinking of that in s3 because jade and diamond felt almost on the same level
I'm fine with benches becoming harder, as long as it doesn't affect the barrier-of-entry with novice ranks
Like, I hope that Iron doesn't become the new bronze difficulty-wise, I remember I was a bit discouraged at first because I felt the barrier of entry to S3 Bronze/S2 Silver was a bit high compared to everything else
idk, I still think it's important
@hazy folio lord sini please dont remove my gm score on smoothbot took me 128 tries
I agree with prilika. Can't be too hard for novice especially since you don't want to repeat the same mistake again for another season
at least from a plat-diamond perspective, they're easier
Mistake?
What mistake
I will
How I interpreted the medium article is that you want to avoid that rank below bronze issue you had in season 3 so I called it a mistake
Sorry if that explanation wasn't clear
NO STOP PLEASE
We have Iron now
And the new energy system makes things easier too since pushing your score further to the next thresholds rewards you with more energy
Think a lot of people are forgetting that element of the benchmarks a lot and undervaluing it
If we only slightly increased the scores then this whole season would be a lot less enticing
That's why you see some stronger buffs, but I think we are getting real close
As always you are the best Mr. Sini
Even if the novice scenarios-and-scores themselves are more difficult, as long as the amount of skill+effort required to hit ranks is reasonably spaced out between ranks, I'd be happy. For example, if the scenarios+scores were more difficult, but S4 Iron would still be slightly easier to achieve than S3 Bronze to account for a larger skill range (lowest rank is easier than last season, higher ranks more difficult than last season)
But maybe I'm overcomplicating it
I think a better way for me to describe it would be that I wish for the skill gap between unranked to Iron and Iron to Bronze to be about the same, as I feel like when I started aim training, the skill gap between unranked and Bronze/Silver was much higher than the skill gap to the next rank up
(I say Bronze/Silver because I started in a weird transitionary period between S2/S3)
Here's my S3 and S4 beta scores: https://imgur.com/a/W7sEq96
Am I just bad or does "VT bounceTS intermediate" feel a little overtuned?
empy said hes gonna think about bringing the back wall closer so there are less smaller targets

its so easy to become iron. anybody idc who they are can become iron within a few days. just need to smooth ur aim a bit and iron easy. so there is no point in affecting all the other ranks that most people are at for a few people that have trouble getting to iron within a week
most people with a decent amount of fps experience start between bronze-gold anyway
yeah. i had been playing fortnite for 2 years on 60hz 60 fps and i got to bronze in "sparky" in around a week
That's goode to hear, seems like my concerns were ironed out since I started grinding
is that a pun?




@zealous hound anglestrafe intermediate might have gotten overtuned? not sure 😅 i just got #1 on it and im not master yet but at the same time i just got it first try of the day... can 100% grind out a master score later. are people just not used to movement scens?
It's actually still too easy imo
But you have to already hit way less targets than pasu
but i just slammed a #1 score on the lbs
yes people are generally not playing as much movement stuff
Assuming you hit the movement score, which if you are moving you will easily do that
it's 20 score
i really enjoy the movement scenes but yea they feel too easy to me, my score wasnt great but i hardly even played
Yep that's why it was buffed
It was 98 master now it's 112
you have to hit 92 targets, and on the stationary one you have to hit 105
advanced version of anglestrafe might need to be tweaked tho, anglestrafe intermediate feels easier than bouncestrafe but anglestrafe advanced feels way harder than bouncestrafe advanced
not entirely sure on that either, havent grinded them enough
ye gonna take a peep at advanced ones too
evaTS also had it's ttk fixed lemme know what u guys score on that
on intermediate and novice
due to timescaling it had to be tuned
i did give some feedback on ground just now. i think that and preciseorb are the only significant changes needed on intermediate then they're nearly done
i scored surprisingly low on the evasive ts scenes tbh
i had them master before and i only did one try but somehow got under plat LMAO
bouncets might need a nerf
wow that must have just happened. i still think you should look at my feedback tho i think my point still stands. i didnt really want a score nerf but i wanted the scenario itself to get harder
on intermediate at least
i think all the bounce ones need to bring the back wall closer. small targets make scores wildly inconsistent
this is from only one attempt on all the new scenes
Yep that's actually happening
We already increased its difficulty, idk when you submitted your feedback, but we added much more short strafe frequency
nice, maybe make the targets slightly smaller too? the close ones are so easy to hit and the far ones are so hard to hit
that's why 3800 was so hard to reach
just now
i mean i just submitted my feedback just now
ah
ye
I was talking about the difficulty increase of the scenario itself
The nerf did just now happen
And the delay thing we will do as well
scenario length will be increased by 5s, but each bot will appear for 12s anyway, that extra 5s on the scenario is used for the delay so that you have time to readjust
I think they were really easy to get tbh
I think they were just buffed rn not too long ago
when did you do this?
the leaderboard isn't wiped
is air being changed right now? my lbs for it is bugging tf out
Still 60s scenario total bot length, just a little bit longer due to spawn delays
just read this for the first time i glossed over it earlier, gonna go try
what happened to angle strafe i noticed the scores had a big jump?
was waaay too easy score targets
i just got 850 on it first try. could most likely get 870 after a bunch of attempts and a good run. definitely less annoying to play but is no longer too hard, might even be slightly easy
although i am good at switching
the tracking part is what was fucking me up earlier so the lower ttk just made it way easier for me
ok yea @hazy folio i just got 875, masters could definitely go up 10 or 20 pts
theres 20 masters in eva rn
on that note i also think psalmTS advanced is too easy. there are 20 gms in it
evats master is 840 i only see 8 masters on it
huh
am i on the wrong scen?
i think ima reload the workshop lol
lemme check again
i think you need to reload the workshop. i just did it and still see 20. i also see sambud and Na on the boards with 842.84 and 841.84 respectively
just like yours
so its gotta be the same scen
see
ok ill reload it
for me angle strafe seems to not be updating my highsorre rn of
reload workshop
is air harder?
Yeah I think it's at a decent level now
Looking into it soon
I got a massive headache
can you guys try the new GV if you havent yet
pretty decent now
i think 3100 should be masters
oh fr?
maybe i need to refresh then
reload workshop yea
because im capping out around 3100
what fov you peeps using for switching and stafe scenarios?
wait you just changed it a second time??
uhh
idk if ive done it then ima reload
my leaderboards will not refresh on ground rn
ye it was changed twice
because the last bot wouldn't self destruct
Oh.
got 3k first try
lbs are still broken tho it has the previous entries archived
im rank 120 with only 2 ppl on the boards
@zealous hound if master is 3100 i could get it with some effort. if its 3200 i will not get it for a long while.
tbh i feel like i shouldn't have gotten a jade score in this
alright then maybe we can keep it at 3200 then
aw man and i just barely got 3100
truthfully im not a good tester for reactive tracking
i honestly think the scores should go up by 200 as a plat ranked i shouldn't be half way to masters on a score
like 2200 2600 3000 3400
well 3400 would be way too hard for master
but maybe they could reduce the gap in between from 400 to 300
so 2300 2600 2900 3200
actually that makes sense
maybe it just cuz when i compare my gp score to my air they are 3 ranks apart xD
@low elbow what are your thoughts on air?
its hard for me. i might be able to get it. but with this gp change i would maybe say that it would be easier to get air master than gp master
me right now
🤷 ground might still have the problem it had in the past. being too easy for lower ranks and too hard for higher ranks
im really not sure
idk im 60% acc on air and only just hit plat
ur literally almost beating me though which i dont think is a fluke
reactivity as always been my best category normally 1 above the rest
i just went and 1 banged diamond s3 Air by a bit so its weird that im struggling on air of all things
i doubt that air is finalized
yeeaaa
AHAH
but wait
bro what
whats going on with the lbs
bruh
idk i got #1 tho get owned
im -54
empy finna snatch it away from me again
x'D
hes probably changing shit rn that might be why its buggy

nice
ye I think 3100 is a good number ngl
VT Ground Varied Novice seems a bit hard.
Will try intermediate soon and show current benchmarks for comparison. This is 3-5 runs of every scen.
that's gotta be way too hard aint no way https://imgur.com/a/N4XMKLE
for context right before this i did one run of the new ground varied intermediate and got a diamond score (2656
the ground varied feel weird tbh idk how the scoring works
3100 is ok imo
oh sorry, I was thinking of intermediate, never checked the novice tbh
nah im cool with all those scores i think
took half a year break between those
I will adjust those right now, we updated the Ground Varied stuff and didn't account for it in the scores for Novice and Intermediate
Fixing that now
funny thing is air still seems harder but maybe it's just me
Might need nerf, but will keep a look at it
S3 iron results for S4 benchmarks
VT Pasu Intermediate is broken ? 3 shot magazine only allow 1 shot. If you miss, the next shot won't register and will reload the gun
it was fine earlier?
Dunno, didn't test it yet, was the first time
can send you a quick video if needed
will try to restart my game. Bounceshot is doing the same thing
After restarting it's the same. Doing it for every scenes having a magazine, so basically every clicking scenes
it was sure fine yesterday, because I did Pasu Novice and didn't have this problem. It's doing it on novice too now
did you reload the workshop?
I'm on Kovaaks and use the online scenes. Am I missing something ?
I understand that you are using the online scenes, but did you reload the workshop
The scenarios get uploaded frequently while they're in beta so you might have bugs when you haven't reloaded the workshop
@stable lintel
that button
Oh thanks I never knew about that button lol. Unfortunately it didn't help. Every reload scenes are still buggued. I should move that to Help-Tech since every reload scenes from kovaaks are buggued out too
So probably not VT scenes related anyway
Oh it's not just VT scenes?
yeah, just found out when finding that button
I thought it was VT since it's in Beta and I saw there were some changes over night
idk if anyone else feels this way but going for jade skyTS feels the same as going for masters voxTS
air is a little too hard imo, i agree
Really?
Imo it's not
Give it some really good tries you'll notice how easy the first 3 bots are
bot 5 even
im bad at reactive tracking so take my input on air with a grain of salt
but if it does need to be nerfed i thnk only ever so slightly
i will say though that i think ground is easier this season, but i had a much harder time on ground than air last season
ya I think ground needs to be back to 3200 master
but @vapid trench wanted to even nerf it to 3000
fkin whisper bro
lmao well 3200 was actually pretty hard to get for me, i think i got really lucky
with rng
the close bots gave me perfect patterns and i stayed on them almost the entire time
i still think 3000-3100 is good
we could settle and agree on 3150 😄
I'm gold on Air with 833 for 825 gold on S3. I struggle and peaked at 3498 on air novice ... 
But does the value for ranks changed based on the new ranking system ? Because 75 for VT Pasu Intermediate is way harder than 66 on regular pasu for S3
would actually be good
the 50+ extra damage is a pretty big deal
i could probably get another 3150 without getting a lucky rng run
with time
so i would not be upset about it
Yeah if this season was the exact same difficulty as last season it would make this season way easier due to the energy system
As it allows you to gain more energy by pushing your scores further and allows you to compensate for your weaker parts with better scores
Let's do it, buffs are really healthy for the benches
Ideally we have the standards are close as possible and maybe even spot on so we don't have to change them later down the road, if it's nerfs I think it's usually relief for most and if it's a buff i think that feels a little annoying for many
yea most of my gm scores got buffed to unranked today 🥲
but i will get them back
thank god 1w3ts didnt change tho, i think that ones perfect
i agree with 3150 totally not wanting to keep my masters score
i have 3200 so i keep it either way 😛
tho i think the scores should have even distance
its a 400 jump from plat to diamond as the rest are 300 jump so maybe bring plat up to 2200 before doing the 50 buff to all
would also help a bit with making intermediate harder that novice (saw ppl having a hard time getting novice but getting intermediate)
i agree on that
maybe 100?
bunch of people having a hard time on it so not sure
Will a new Fundamentals playlist coming to accompany this season benchmark?
no
I'm finally trying out all of the advanced benches, will see how it tourns out
So far reactive scores are extremely difficult imo
here's mine for comparison
love the new preciseorb, def better than pgti
bounceshot feels hard but ig it will take time to get used to the new scen
gv is also hard
here's mine with some feedback:
- love the new dynamic benches! might be worth nerfing bounceshot a small amount based on others' feedback but i found playing it very intuitive
- 1w5ts master at 130 feels slightly high when s3 1w4ts master was 120, was thinking 128 would be a more realistic bench. dont really think the extra target compensates enough for score, but i also haven't properly played static for months so i'm pretty washed compared to s3 - i'm kinda splitting hairs tho
- air varied master is pretty ruthless rn haha. again i am garb at the scen but 3800 is just too much imo, not sure if it's under review atm
everything else feels like it's in a great spot both in how they play and their current benches. will be interesting to see how opinions will change once i'm actually grinding 🙂
Yeah I think the scenes are top notch tbh (didn't try Advanced though, I'm still a scrub). PreciseOrb is really a great scene
- Just need to adjust either the scoring system or the scoring threshold for ranks for some of them (especially air varied imo)
- Update the fundamentals playlists to match some new scenes (strafe) even if it's not benchmark related
I think ground varied im should be harder scen
because the bot is so slow and big
makes improving on it just weird
No, we just changed it on the new spreadsheets
It takes average of all energy
oh I see
what are your thoughts on advanced gv?
Idk all the advanced stuff feels a lot harder than intermediate
Which is bound to happen, but I think maybe gv intermediate just needs to be a bit thinner so the transition to advanced isn't as crazy
yes!
Ground varied is thinner now
was ground just changed? I was struggling to hit gold on the novice benches yesterday.. i made it today, but also made diamond on the intermediate ones today
score targets changed yet or no?
The score targts for novice had been fixed yesterday
And ground intermediate is thinner now
score targets for that still need to be adjusted
I will wait for that change then 🙂 just felt weird i easily hit a diamond score and struggled to get told still after
told=gold
Yeah I think you might have played it when the score targets werent adjusted yet
does this mean that the sheet was updated? because am seeing the same points than a few days ago for bronze silver and gold in ground varied novice?
I doubt that
It was changed yesterday like I Said
it went from like 3k~ for gold to 2.5k
it's on 2500 rn, I had trouble hitting that lol
here you can see proof actually
:p
nice
it just feels weird when I can get masters on gv with relative ease but on advanced one it's not even close to gm
time to use arno's playlist again I guess
totally not me 
got 64% acc and 3004 score on ground varied intermed. is that scoring correct for that acc?
definitely more than my 3180 for 52% 
idk if i just havent grinded it enough, but bouncets feels harder even though yall brought the wall closer. am i tripping? did something change that i wasnt aware of? i cant get the same score
i think its because theyre more in the player models face
sometimes i feel they skybot the player
huh
i dont have any idea for a fix for that
if it even needs one
idk
almost feel like it needs slightly lower ttk
Appreciate the feedback btw
No prob!
Was any score changed in the AL spreadsheet? I didn't see any change at any difficulty since beta release on the AL spreadsheet, I'm starting to think I'm looking at the wrong link because it's always the same 😂
No scores have been changed recently we are working hard to release the kvk first then will focus on AL
Good to know, I was right then, thank you Empy!
2nd day went much better
gv still feels weird, sometimes there's a lot of rng involved whether the bot will shortstrafe or longstrafe, 3000 should be a gm imo
tried the intermediate sheet, imo bouncets could be buffed, but other than that everything looking good
Bouncets actually feels a bit too hard for me, like it's the same difficulty as b180t voltaic but with buffed highscores, but maybe it's just me
when i make a copy of the sheet with updated scores i get errors #value !div/0! errors
your old sheet gets updated automatically
you dont need to make a new one
i can't post screenshots here. But i posted in scores. Ground varied intermediete seems to be bugged. i get 64% acc but people got a higher score on way lower acc?
most probably because they prefire the bot spawn
I personally hold lmb the whole time on that scen
yeah so do i?
i did 2 times xD
He just did that, but its like that one specific scenario isn't updating
ldb might be weird there cuz not everyone played again after the scen got changed
Idk its weird never seen this before
some people played it and got higher scores on way lower acc and some people got over 60 acc and barely got 3k on it.
it's the only scenarios thats been wierd for me.
the problem with the bench sheet is that for example in intermediate the G7:G8 and g13:14 dont have the formulas in energy, same happens with advanced
and when u copy it .. the missing 0 creates errors
they're not supposed to have enerygy
personally I had 0 problems with the sheet
what's wrong about it?
oh
same happens in advanced
wait, no
mine doesn't have anything in them as well
and everything works just fine
well if i make a copy of the OG sheet .. i get these errors .. and my old copy didnt get the updated scores automatically
? Dumbass those are strafing, which don't count right now read the description
is the insult necesary?
No you're right, but read the description next time instead of wasting peoples time
how bout u go fuckurself
Lol
blocked
the errors still appear when i make a copy of the sheet so ... no is not wasting anyone time if the sheet is not working right .. the old copy never got the updated scores
these
make copy .. i get those errors
i made a new copy because the old copy i had still has the old scores and not the updated ones .. why? dont know
thats the error message in each column
Hmmm does it disappear if you fill it out
?
Also sometimes Google just has sync issues and your sheets get messed up
no, i copy pasted my scores on the high scores and nothing changes
Did you copy paste the entire thing or each individual
individual
Did you try manual entry?
yes
looks like i dont have access to the sheet where it gets all the scores
and thats the problem
the new and my old sheets cant retrieve the new scores
this is the sheet from where imports all the scores and looks like it has errors for me
the errors -> https://ibb.co/bKZXLPQ
@quiet ferry I might have the same issue lol
62% acc and ppl above me have 55% and lower
Some people like to hold down their M1 in between bot spawns
They just happen to get more hits
I assumed that too
but I hold lmb the whole time too
but this just doesnt add up
is there a chance that they haven't updated the scenario and their results are still put in ldb?
You know what that’s possible I think it’s your leaderboard that’s bugged since it’s displaying there are 700 entries we reset the leaderboards yesterday so there should be a lot less atm until more people play it
I think leaderboard reset doesn't reset entry count
I'm not sure what's going on here, maybe some people found exploits on the map
Or it has bugs
that we aren't aware of
Hmm my leaderboards reset the entry count
But like some people still showed up in the leaderboard when they weren’t supposed to
might be, I still see entries 3500+
which imo are nearly impossible with the current scen

Quick question can you cap your fps at 60fps and play it again please
there seems to be a bug that when fps is capped the first bot doesn’t self destruct
Ok thanks
yup that's true
Awesome thank you
so maybe that's how ppl do it?
Yup!!!!
I think we found an answer
Now
empy the detective
damn
LMFAO
good job <3
60 fps cheesers!!!
DONT BAN ME
jk ;p
WAIT
hahaha
I DIDNT CHEESE
that means bhop was looking for cheese!?
NO
ayo
4K
I HAVE SCREEN TEARING
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NONONONONONO
@zealous hound not only that but fps lock gives a score boost in general
a friend of mine who struggled to get 3k on 200+ fps just got 3k with 144 lock
this is what I got with 144 lock
just checked the advanced gv, it doesn't work there
both 144 and 60 locks don't change anything
weird
for me only 60 fps
lock
works
where it's not self destructing
on the advanced gv?
rip release then
major bug
💀
havent tried on advanced
gonna try now
i was saying 144 doesn't cause bug for me
I mean 144 vs 300 fps
the bots die
might be
remember few years ago in destiny 2 that high fps made you take more damage
somehow
just as in some older games 60cap would give u an advantage
I know in some games speedrunners have a bind to fps locks

wow ok, me and my friend didn't notice anything weird
yeah it makes the first bot last longer sometimes
and the scenario just becomes easier
time to bring the good old gpv back
yeah i had a highscore of 2500 on the advanced version locked my fps to 60 and got instant 2700
i capped to 60fps and went from 3000-3800 on ground varied intermediete. First bot never died.
That is a whack bug
if i make a copy of the last version of s4 benchmarks i get this error https://ibb.co/GVqRvpY
and i think thats to update the scores? but since it refuses access the whole sheet gets broken
yeah that doc is in the works
so that's why
you might wanna use an earlier copy of the sheet
yo is new benches coming out tmrw
no
prolly fixed tomorrow
fixed
gv works just fine now
phew
the score requirements need to be updated though
I just got near 3k with super bad run
drinking coffee not paying attention
and arno pulled off a 3.8k
actually ye
scores need a buff
do you need a vod? @hazy folio
I dont exactly know what changed, but scores I get are way higher than yesterday without using the fps bug
yeah it is way easier now
I've 8fps there for some reason
but only on intermediate
On Advanced everythins is fine
fps bug?
Same here on novice benches.. Was struggling to get over 2500 last friday, today all were 2900 scores
For some reason I feel like Air Varied scores are kinda too high for both Intermediate and Novice, I didnt struggle so much on the previous season benchmark
And I feel that BounceshotTS score is way too high in Intermediate section
Like you need to shoot 60 of them in Bounceshot Intermediate and you need to fully track 67 of them in BounceshotTS Intermediate with the same size
Plus one thing
Weird bug, but when I load SkyStrafe Intermediate it freezes, my fps drops to 89 for 1 second and then it goes back to normal
and every time when I fast reset it it happenes as well
I feel that BounceTS Intermediate scores for Plat and Diamond were supposed to be 570 and 610
can be wrong though
570 and 610 might be a bit too easy but i also feel like those scores should be lower
I mean in every other rank TS scores are slightly below than scores in the normal Bounceshot
I mean I am definetely horrendous at BounceTS and I need to improve at it a lot
I just dont get the tendency
it's fixed already dw
but it's 69 in the old sheet, and now only 670dmg (for plat)
so it's around the same lvl
77 is diamond
I meant b180 not b180TS
but here ur talking about bounceTS (b180T)
thats what I'm answering
bounceTS scoring is fine
I mean in old one b180TS scores for a specific rank were lower that b180TS
Bounceshot however might be a little hard I guess, but it's also a new scen so ppl will need time to get used to it
ur showing voxTS here
...
and in the new one its higher for plat and diamond but lower for Jade and Master
I'm showing the whole table
I accidentally clicked on VoxTS line
the tendency always was 52-35; 61-51; 70-60; 77-79; 86-77
and for the new one its 60-67; 70-71; 80-81; 90-87;
It's probably alright and it was meant to be like that because the jumps in bounceshot are higher than in bounceTS
in Intermediate section
I just find it confusing
I was comparing bounceshot scoring for plat and bounceTS scoring for plat
in prev benchmark and in the new one
what are u on
bounceshot is not a B180 from previous season, they can't be compared 1:1
idk, TS score in this scen was lower than clicking one earlier
bounceshot is harder than b180
in Intermediate
yes it is
but u said about bounceTS
and BounceTS is harder as well
it's pretty much the same
size of the targets
minor changes
that's why the dmg scores are little lowered
idk, I can be dumb but it feels so much smaller than b180TS
69 (690 dmg) in the old one = 670 dmg in s4
idk honestly
at the end of the day who am I to judge it
I'm just a gold-plat guy who's bad af
tbh u're a good judge
since ur in that skill category
but you're gold on old b180T, and not plat yet on the new one
so it's good scoring
right?
yh I guess so
I havent played old one in a while as well
so it also can be just an inaccurate representation
@zealous hound was it changed? wth
SPRAAAY
prob #1 is barely gm rn
I’m not too sure it’s possible it was changed so it can be similar to intermediate and novice to prevent the fps bug
sini or empy told me that it takes avg of all the energy
and not a sum
as in yours
have you updated ur sheet?
I dont Think i have
why is master for ground so low?
Outdated sheet
Scenario recently got bug fixed, we'll buff the scores for it soon
this is the updated one
it's weird because the score is already buffed on my sheet, but not on the one in #announcements
for me it’s 3600 master
ye exactly, but check the sheet that's in #announcements , it's still 3000 there
It's not the one in announcements we've been adjusting and it's pulling scores from another spreadsheet, we'll be using that one and giving a changelog so everyone will be moving over to that new sheet
Does anyone know about when season 4 will begin?
prob like a week from now
a few people have said bouncets feels somewhat hard even after change
like here
Submissions will be opened at our discretion during or shortly after the new season announcement
this is in #changelog
not sure when the new season announcement is though
I'm unable to directly share screenshots but still wanted to somewhat contribute. I attached my benchmark sheets on this link https://imgur.com/a/WgAKpNk
Personal observation: VT bounceTS Intermediate is either too hard, scores required are too high or I suddenly became really bad, PB being 620/670. As reference tested the Advanced version and got 618/790, and B180T Voltaic Easy still able to hit 69/69 (PB being 74/77, 3 points short of Diamond score).
what is air vaired supposed to be
Air needs to be adjusted in my opinion
Agreed. I feel like the switching scenarios and preciseorb is too hard
Im not on my pc rn but i remember seeing on the leaderboards that the top 5 scores were barely getting a masters score on some scenarios
I still don't understand how is AngleStrafe Intermediate needs 62 kills to plat. It's almost the same as plat for S3 Pasu Easy, on smaller targets, while moving 
yay i never have to do 6 sphere
You got this
is there a way to reduce our movement speed ? Kinda getting motion sick after too much strafe scenarios
wouldn't that make the scen either much easier or much harder
it would make it too easy
yeah but also you'd get less points for distance
That wasn't the point Aido, I can't player lower than 90 fov on strafe otherwise I get motion sick
no i understand, im just saying why you probably won't be able to do that unless you don't want to get on the leaderboard
oh sorry, I didn't understand it that way 
Weird that everyone is saying bounceTS intermediate is set too high, I got masters 1st try and only went higher next 2 runs
However s3 b180t used to be my weakest TS (borderline gm highscore with low masters avg)
I think it's ok
If anything imo it needs a slight buff but ok
imo it's in a good spot
https://ibb.co/SV0025t
https://ibb.co/PW1w8NV
https://ibb.co/F0Q7k3w
Season 3, Season 4 Novice and Season 4 Intermediate.
Note that i played most scenarios just a few times and I did it 5 days ago so recent changes are not taken into account here
Is it only me or everyone also has 8fps on 1st bot of intermediate GV? (Advanced and Novice works fine)
when gm
"yea raspberry said it was because the scen is making more "calculations" than the other scenarios as there was recently a bug where if you had your fps set to 60, you'd easily be able to achieve high scores. I'm sure he's working on a fix (edited)" grabbed this from something someone said in the advice thread
weird, I was just playing this scen and everything is smooth for me
yeah idk because i get the same problem as him, only lasts for the first bot and then instantly fixes
Have not played old benches for a while, new bouncets feels hard for me, can easily get gold but cant get plat, preciseorb same shit. Probably air is the worst for me (cause valorant player), but i cant even get gold on novice
how come my beta sheet averages my energy scores but all of these ones add the scores?
Kinda need help. I downloaded Air Varied to scale down the speed to train, but changing it has no effect. Reload the scene shows 0.95. That's weird
My bad, I thought the modifications were saved when you change scenarios or something
is vt psalmts advanced the exact same scen as psalmts voltaic?
the other ones are outdated
^ They're using an older version of the sheet
okok
https://i.imgur.com/E1a0H5k.png
https://i.imgur.com/OuT7j9q.png
I think Smoothbot is way too easy and should move closer to the speed it did before. I got Jade in PillStrafe which I grind lgc3 reborn a lot but definitely not jade level. bouncets scores need to be lowered but other than that everything else is great.
umm wtf is the sky strafe score for ghm
Whoever made the moving dynamic scnerios did a really good job i really like them and think its a good addition
idk i want to know as well
Hopefully it starts soon
We intend to release the new season when both our benchmarks are at an acceptable level. We're closing in on Kovaaks, Aim Lab is next and when that's done the new season can start.
How you guys can help
Keep the feedback coming via our feedback form: https://bit.ly/voltaicfeedback <--- Keeps things organised and easy to look back at for us
Keep posting your progress sheets, including when we make changes to scenarios etc.
Thank you guys so far for your feedback and patience 
i think they are acceptable lol, still I have to wait longer i guess
day 2 of having 8fps on 1st bot Ground Varied intermediate
Same lol its annoying bc thats been my fav scen to play from the benchmarks
^
No idea what is causing it sadly :/
and it's exactly 8 fps?
I can do a stream for you, is it okey? @hazy folio
because my recording program got fucked up
but yeah, it is exactly 8fps
and when the first bot is dead
everything is fine
back to 140fps+
I don't get 8fps on first bot but now that I check I can also confirm there's a weird fps drop on the first bot that jumps back up on the second bot in VT Ground Varied Intermediate.
Here's a link to a clip of the issue, you can see the jump from 190~ frames to 300~ at the 15 second mark. I didn't originally notice cause I was still at high frames (I have 240hz monitor, uncapped frames).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-00Nw_J_AA
If it does matter, I am using a 75Hz monitor with uncapped frames as well
and if you cap your frames at 75?
I don't get 8 exactly but i get sub 70 and random drops and then it jumps back to 180-220 when the next bot spawns everytime
Still 8fps
New test with locked 240fps and 75fps.
On 240 lock I still see the 190~ frames on bot 1 and then a jump to 240 cap on bot 2. On 75 it's a consistent 75 both bots. I feel like something bot 1 is doing is potentially consuming some system resource more than another but no idea what.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-0fPYwF7MM
Is it only happening on Ground Varied intermediate?
Or does it also happen on Novice and Advanced
Makes me wonder what's different about Intermediate, if that's the case
I'll run those and check
Can confirm Bot 1 and Bot 2 for novice and advanced both sit at a steady 300ish fps for me. So intermediate is the outlier
Also I just checked my task manager, for some reason it looks like VT Ground Varied Intermediate bot 1 is consuming less GPU resource than the second bot.
Advanced and Novice both fully utilize the 3D engine on bot 1 & 2
https://imgur.com/a/0hXZEIU
for me gv intermediate works fine
170+ fps\
Yes
I also have fps issues with gv intermediate, playing capped at 144 fps, first bot always drops fps to 30-50 and only with the first bot. Novice and Advanced is working fine.
Considering nobody has anywhere close to an astra score on VT Multiclick 180 Advanced (182 highest, 192 for astra) it might need to be nerfed
how many energy buckets are there per scen?




