Vorkot's casual training sesh

[gray grotto]

I don't know... I don't know how to feel when we talk about very slow senses when it comes to precise tracking tasks.

But that is my lack of general knowledge speaking here.

[crisp ferry]

My 70cm run was on smoothbot

it was literally my first run ever using 70 cm on anything

[glad comet]

For me, who never arm aimed, speed matching fast is quite challenging

[upbeat scarab]

I think anything above like 50cm is cheese

for tracking

but also like, I feel like if its a bench senario, it should be designed to mitigate cheesing (run 70cm on pgti I dare you), and if it's not you're just kind of trolling yourself

[gray grotto]

How about a 1km/360 speedrun sesh?

https://youtu.be/FoZpZVmcsHk?si=que9YANaOHkII-RJ

[upbeat scarab]

na I'd beat that

[rain hare]

off center

his run is invalid

reported

[gray grotto]

"Rules:

• Must not deviate from the Y-axis at any point during the run"

[compact sluice]

💀

[gray grotto]

Having another busy day. Likely wont train

[ruby tangle]

mood but im sure you'll get back to it soon :)

[glad comet]

@gray grotto may you hook me up with some hit sounds

[gray grotto]

I don't have any sorry

My hit sounds are all stock.

[teal sierra]

so ez to make

[glad comet]

Pretty sure you and shimmy shared some no

[gray grotto]

Only Shimmy. But I only downloaded his killsound

Let me see

#1196131037172990002 message

Hmmm thought there were more but apparently not

[paper birch]

I got my first Master's score

[gray grotto]

GG

[crisp ferry]

These are fire ty

[glad comet]

TSK ON TOP #1191909679228530728 message

[upbeat scarab]

my goat

[gray grotto]

Smoothness grind (Day 12/30)
(Link to day 11: #1196131037172990002 message)

Link to next day:

Benchmarks before day 12:

[glad comet]

WE BACK ON THE GRIND

[gray grotto]

Pushed a couple PBs in Pasu Track. Vai averages been averegin' and horizontal had some dips and some same-ish averages

[glad comet]

I remember having some dips in horizontal and PB like +1k right after

I'm a little bit of a coder myself and added those average % on the right

Since I do a category a day it's easier to see your weakest

[gray grotto]

So you focus horizontal one day then do vai the other or?

[glad comet]

Yea because I still play VDIM every day, I just play horizontal, so 3x6=18 reps, trying to keep entire VDIM + this in 2 hours

Gonna spam horizontal until I get suave GM, then balance the entire thing out to that rank for OCD reasons

[gray grotto]

I might consider modifying mine a bit too.

Currently I do VAI + horizontal + Pasu every day but I do notice I am getting a bit burned out from it so I am either going to do 2 categories per day and then keep rotating or also do 1 category per day but then increase the reps

[glad comet]

I might the frogger for getting pre-adv in horizontal for playing probably less than you

Even though you were in the lead

[glad comet]

It doesn't even sound that much unless you do more than 3 reps?

from your sheet it's (4 + 5 + 5) * 3 = 42 tasks

[gray grotto]

I end up doing usually more than 3 + resetting quite often

I am more often than not going at it for 1.30h - 2h

Because I get distracted. I end up being meh on the first few tasks, then go to the next few tasks, do very well on there and get my "groove", then go back to the first few trasks to try to work on my technique there yet again too + attempting to get my scores higher. Then I return back to the latter 2 tasks and re-do the same and eventually I have played that category for like 25-30m or longer before I move on to the next one lol

And then i am like "ugh i need to do the rest too"

I am having that feeling for the last 4 TSK days or so now so I end up kinda slacking by the end of it cause I just want to get the playlist over with.

[glad comet]

Maybe play 1 warmup run of the first task (just reset at 5 seconds left or smth) and that's enough, I don't even do that most of the time since my first run on always left/right turns out to be fine even if it feels awkward. I avoid any resets unless I whiffed hard on the start and yk, as you say it in #advice don't score farm, your lowest and average scores are the real indicator of skill

[gray grotto]

I do that, but I keep reverting back to it.

It is not as if I am focused on score at all times but its just that I am doing better and better as time progresses and then I am like "hmmm why not" and then I get super engaged into it because of it lol

Matty once mentioned he kept re-doing a specific task until he hits around 90% of his highest score (or similar) to make sure he spent good time engaging with that scenario or something like that. I guess I am somewhat applying that in my own way too: pushing my training until i hit a point where I felt like I "hit my cap" for that scenario that day and then move on. Not necessarily about trying to push a new highscore but just to see how far I can push myself for that day and see where I end up if that makes sense.

This if course takes a lot of time per category

IDK this satisfies me more in terms of training rather than just running 3 tasks and moving on, although I do also need to note that doing a crazy amount of repetitions of course wont result necessarily in better training after a certain point but I dont think I have done any scenario more than 7-10 tries at a point, so it is not that excessive...

So yeah I need to figure out a bit on how to approach from here on out. Either just go with the flow as you said or modify it to a smaller but higher intensity playlist

[glad comet]

Ye it's like 5% threshold or something like that

[gray grotto]

Something in that ballpark yeah.

[gray grotto]

Totally unrelated but how did you do that? 😛 I have like 0 understanding of Excel to do this

[glad comet]

Just set a value of the cell to = "HOR2UBER " & ROUND(AVERAGE(F23:F28)) & "%", & to concatenate strings (apparently), F column is hidden but it is what contains the actual accurate non-rounded percentage of your progress to uber and is used later to show progress bar + rounded percentage

Pretty simple

I couldn't modify to UBER for another rank cuz just changing column (O to, say, L for advanced) is apparently not working and I cba reading that long ass formula even for 5 seconds

@dense tinsel help

Is there 2 step guide on changing it

[dense tinsel]

idk

i havent done anything like that before

[glad comet]

Changing just this O5 to lower values doesn't seem to help

Mainly cuz majority falls under second condition

Like it basically

takes your progress to advanced

if you're not advanced

and does *0.5

accurate representation of your progress to uber indeed

[glad comet]

You changed yours you said/shown

[dense tinsel]

huh

[glad comet]

this

[dense tinsel]

yeah but what you did looks completely different lol

i just chat gpted mine i dont care about effort

[glad comet]

But your ss makes no sense

cuz it just refers to F12

which is the hidden column with % progres

and its formula is what I screenshot'd

[glad comet]

^

So you should've modified that

[dense tinsel]

yea it went into there

idk i have no energy atm because its an hour left before i break my fast

[glad comet]

Basically that entire thing is

nerfing the actual %

uhh

basically anything below advanced is 0-50%

Advanced to uber is 50-100%

if it was directly calculated against basic rank you'd get higher % as result but they decided to make it this way due to huge gaps on starter ranks

[gray grotto]

I am terrible at programmming (tried many times) so this is hocuspocus to me lol

[glad comet]

ROUND(AVERAGE(F23:F28)) is the main part

you just get the average of f23-f28

round it

and add your text using &

pretty simple

[gray grotto]

Gotcha

I guess for my next TSK-sessions I will re-introduce the vertical smoothness scenarios and then just do 2 category at a time.

Maybe Horizontal + vertical on 1 day and then VAI/Pasu on the other

Pain

[dense tinsel]

pain

[gray grotto]

Causing doing all 3 or 4 category at once now is getting a bit of a chore for me with how I keep reverting to my preferred approach rather than just sticking to 3 reps, which doesn't feel that satisfying for me

[dense tinsel]

just do whatever who cares

dont overthink it

[gray grotto]

I care mister!

[gray grotto]

Played a bit of vertical too before ending the day. Way hoping that some of the VAI practise would carry over to it but alas not much jumps. Did get some nice pushes here and there though

[crisp ferry]

W

[compact sluice]

Tsk benches are too boring idk how you play them bro lmaoo

[gray grotto]

Goofy ahhh scenarios

[compact sluice]

actually 😭

they hurt to play bro

i have like 3 runs

in all of them

at most

[gray grotto]

IDK when my crosshair lands on target my hit sound go brrrrrrrrrr and my monkey brain likes that.

[compact sluice]

lmfaooo

fair enough

[gray grotto]

Dumb question....

but for scenarios like "Vertical smoothness training popcorn", or in TSK: "VSTP Small TE", are you supposed to follow the bot all the way to the ground or do you like stop tracking it slightly above the ground and wait for it to bounce again to start tracking again?

[upbeat scarab]

when it's about to touch the ground is the ideal time to reset, but if you have no need to reset there is no issue with following it

it's just very difficult

[gray grotto]

Yeah that part is fucking me up, but reason I asked is cause I saw a VOD from Scucchi where he stopped right before it bounced so I was wondering what the ideal thing to do was.

[dense tinsel]

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeRYKwbBx-Zdxxa16zoVdKMCZYMEmmG2B

i found this awhile ago but its this crazy tracking guy

and it has all of his vods for tsk uber+

[gray grotto]

Oh shit. Thanks for that

Gonna check it out.

Gotta love how my horizontal smoothness is just wobbling left to right/going in small circles rather than a straight line

[ruby tangle]

Smoothing ur vertical

[glad comet]

I actually found it myself recently, was looking for some vods to check their resets and maybe handcam but nope.
I'm kinda doubting my resets rn but like do you start in neutral position and reset to it on always left/right?

[dense tinsel]

just on the far side of where i start

so like if the bot moves left ill put my hand on the right side etc

[glad comet]

Yeah I do the same but resetting to that far side is super unstable for me

Like specifically left side

[dense tinsel]

i just do it so that i dont have to reset as often

i struggle with it too but itll take time

[glad comet]

We just move the arm right, no arc rotation thing in centering

[dense tinsel]

yea

[glad comet]

My chair is like weirdly placed

So very left edge of my space is literally like

Inside my shoulders

It's kinda super awkward to aim from/around there

Cuz my elbow just hits my body and I get in some weird position lmao

[dense tinsel]

ywea my shoulders ache a bit from far side resets

[gray grotto]

Meanwhile me using my wrist and rotating my arm into oblivion

[teal sierra]

https://app.voltaic.gg/u/imthesolo

idk what else to do

i think i play the rng game and get axitrack astra

[gray grotto]

(Indefinitely on hold) Vorkot's aim progress

[dry zealot]

⏹️⏱️

[compact sluice]

WAIT WHY

[dense tinsel]

💔

[lapis merlin]

[compact sluice]

my helpful king…

I will carry on ur legacy

[gray grotto]

Need to focus on other things for now

[compact sluice]

🥲🥲

Best of luck man

Hope to see you back soon

[teal sierra]

the year is 2043, vorkot comes back and insta snipes matty's son on everything.

[compact sluice]

Vorkot trains for 100 years

TSK benches only

Vorkot hold the number 1 position with at least a 1k point gap between number 1 and 2

95% accuracy on every scen

[gray grotto]

Need to get my shit together first

[rain hare]

⏸️

[upbeat scarab]

the other things is an escape to the mountains to train with monks

vorkot coming back a master of his chakra able to commune with the spirit world

[gray grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/aang-previous-avatars-avatar-roku-gif-11704364

[rain hare]

take care of yourself king

🙏

[glad comet]

[compact sluice]

[dry zealot]

🥂

[crisp ferry]

vorkot on hold 💔

[rain hare]

wish vorkot would HOLD my hand

[gray grotto]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k01xxJlCkN8

Mini posted his static vid

[crisp ferry]

Real

[teal sierra]

still waiting for matty's static vid

[glad comet]

it's already there

nothing special there, just "flick fast, slow micro"

he's not static main afterall, has already gotten good enough tension management and other mandatory skills to do good at static so that makes sense for him to just flick fast and adjust

[teal sierra]

he keeps talking about making a new vid about fluidity

thats what i want

[compact sluice]

not sure this is the whole vid

the one he was talking ab months ago

idk

[glad comet]

It's probably it

One thing I realized about static is

[compact sluice]

i guess

[glad comet]

You think there's so much to say

but in the end

it's like 6 sentences

Like I tried to formulate some kind of recap of static techniques

And after couple of minutes of trying to you end up with yeah if you really tried you can compress it in 3 sentences

[paper birch]

Give me this 6 sentence summary 👀

I decided to just focus on purely static again this week before moving onto dynamic and ts since i feel like I need fundamentally better flicking techniques before doing those other sections. My coach told me it felt like I was dragging my arm during static rather than flicking and he showed me his technique and it opened my third eye and I finally got what he meant after trying it myself.

[glad comet]

Don't drag/hover mouse. Flick fast but not faster than you can handle tension management wise. Don't rush micros.

[paper birch]

This is why i need you to help me too 🥹

I also ran into this problem now where im using the same muscles/tension for micro

And im like shit now i get what this whole tension management thing means

Cus before that i had no clue what anyone meant by tension management

[glad comet]

Yea it just clicks the moment you realize your micros suck cuz you're deathgripping

[paper birch]

Yeah they werent fluid

So now i feel like i unlocked a new skill lmao

I dont know how i got to jade without realizing these

[glad comet]

You can get jade-halfway to master scores in static even without it

[paper birch]

I can show u my static vod and u can totally see what my coach meant by dragging my arm

Im rewatching it and it felt like there was no sense of urgency with my flicks

[glad comet]

It's probably what mini shown as dragging the mouse in his vid yea

[paper birch]

Ooo ill watch this later at work

[dense tinsel]

oh shit

that would genuinely be a life changer

it's like the most important thing at adv ranks

[glad comet]

plastic

[compact sluice]

I been saying this

[paper birch]

Explain fluidity 👀

[teal sierra]

probably something about...

[paper birch]

Nooooooooooo

[glad comet]

@gray grotto for future: #advice message

Also yes I asked for vods

[glad comet]

Also got pre-adv complete on horizontal (except SYWextrathin) someone pat me

[brazen sinew]

👊

[crisp ferry]

[gray grotto]

Yeet

[dry zealot]

Yo

[glad comet]

I've been beaten

[dry zealot]

Wondering if u watched minigod’s new static vid as its been talked about here iirc @gray grotto

[glad comet]

He's the one who brought it up

[dry zealot]

The idea or after its been public

Guess im late

[glad comet]

Latter, he dropped url in here

[dry zealot]

[glad comet]

hows your recovery

[dry zealot]

Going well, still hurting if i move the finger too much(has potential to re-open)

2 weeks passed i think i need at least 2 more

[rain hare]

what happened king?

[gray grotto]

Ye ye, seen it and posted the link here too 🙂

[dry zealot]

Deep cut in index finger

[fair heron]

why the hold on aim training?

[gray grotto]

^

[fair heron]

aw I wanted to see u become jade with me bc im almost there

but gl

[gray grotto]

Thanks. And grats on the climb btw ;p

[gray grotto]

Just needed to share this somewhere give the usage of "x-pilled x-maxxing" labels lately

[ruby tangle]

2this is so comic pilled

[harsh scroll]

this is too real

[pale finch]

i finally try it but find out i suck

I need to start grinding it, first day !

[dense tinsel]

you should take over this channel

vorkot needs a replacement

[pale finch]

😂 i will. I will let you guys know if i get intermediate

[gray grotto]

[glad comet]

It's fine I can post my daily TSK progress here too

[glad comet]

It's OUR thread now, sharing is caring

[pale finch]

motivation

[gray grotto]

I don't consent

[glad comet]

@dense tinsel we gotta overthrow this dictatorship

[dense tinsel]

his consent doesnt matter

[glad comet]

[dense tinsel]

when he comes back you guys might have to stop

but until then i think its cool

[glad comet]

ah yes

we're just keeping the memory of vorkot by bumping his thread

[gray grotto]

I cannot rebel against this bourgeoisie

[glad comet]

hyd mr vorkot man

is there any estimate on comeback

[gray grotto]

Probably around the summer break or later

Focusing on therapy + finishing my thesis right now

[glad comet]

Ic

gl with those

[gray grotto]

thanks 🙂

Just very overwhelmed and tired at the moment

[glad comet]

That's probably only beginning

Having like 0 free time cuz your day is filled with stuff you have to do and want to do is gg

[gray grotto]

For me it is basically the other way around: focussing too much on free time and distractions rather than doing the stuff that I need to do. Which is basically a terrible copings mechanism that I build throughout the years.

Now it is biting me in the ass and I have to turn the tides a bit.

[pale finch]

looks like this guy play with 55+ cm

should i cheese it😭

[dense tinsel]

i dont remember what it was but i think it was in the desc of each video

[pale finch]

yea, he plays 55+cm

from 55- 90 i think

im playing with 40cm

[glad comet]

Im on 40, pre-adv on horizontal (I only play horizontal for suave), you're fine

[pale finch]

okay i stick with it ig. This guy only use arm to aim

since i also use 40cm for tracking scenarios , no point of lowering sens

[glad comet]

there is point, you'll get familiar with faster movement better

I'll try very slow sens on 90 centering since it easily allows fori t

like 80ish and lower just to move my arm faster since that's what I struggle with the most from what I see

basically slowest sens my mousepad will allow for 90

[gray grotto]

From Matty's video on Scucchi

[glad comet]

Matty still didnt drop tsk vods

lemme get on his ass gently boop him

[pale finch]

i see, i do use arm for general movement and wrist for micro

[compact sluice]

[pale finch]

pre-advanced

[pale finch]

done today , gonna play some benchmark

[compact sluice]

goat

[brazen sinew]

Can someone send a link to this sheet?

[pale finch]

https://bit.ly/EnglishTSK

[harsh scroll]

Looks like fun, gonna give this one a try today

[rain hare]

It is not fun

Far from it

[harsh scroll]

ok yeah i can barely do the basic/beginner 😭 maybe i'll give these another go ltr

[fervent bear]

There's 3 seperate benchmarks, you can focus work your way up to extra starting from the first tab, should be level I II III etc., then move onto benchmark normal

[harsh scroll]

yeah i got through the beginner tab with all lvl 4 - i went through the new tsk extra tab which has been painful

eyes hurt after starting at these tiny lines and dots man holy

maybe ill give the categories im missing basic on a go tmr

which scenarios from the list do you all think have been the most helpful for you all?

thinking ill grind out smoothness for a bit as well

[gray grotto]

All of them except for VAI grandmaster, PTS close fast and SYW extra thin

[harsh scroll]

thanks, will give these a go

have a good feeling about grinding out smoothness

[gray grotto]

They are great. Has helped me a lot already

Hit smoothbot jade after like 1 weeks of use or so. I forgot

[upbeat scarab]

I need to get on these I think

[harsh scroll]

What was your routine like during that period?

[gray grotto]

VAI, Pasu Track and Horizontal. Every day.

Minus the scenarios I mentioned before

[wispy hare]

what this TSK about?

[gray grotto]

@wispy hare ^

[wispy hare]

yeah but its like a smoothness benchmark?

[gray grotto]

yes

click on the link

[wispy hare]

ah okok

jeah i got lvl IV after trying

so i go for Extra now i guess

[sleek heart]

😄 i keep thumbs up for you bro

[gray grotto]

henlo. thanks!

[glad comet]

@gray grotto stop getting everyone on this TSK drug!!

[gray grotto]

People say it is the good stuff

[glad comet]

@dense tinsel isn't it funny how u telling vorkot to grind smoothness made like literally everyone else do that now

[gray grotto]

That is the Shimmy effect

[glad comet]

what is jade equivalent on tsk

asking for a friend

[dense tinsel]

no idea

pre advanced id guess? on hard/extra mode

im nearly advanced and my best precise score is jade

[glad comet]

I have gm in steady with pre adv

Almost gm in both suave and mini

But like I only have pre adv in horizontal just so i don't have to worry about suave

Idk it took like no time to get pre adv horizontal for me

Doesn't feel like jade...

[dense tinsel]

im jade

max effort jade too

[compact sluice]

i started it because i was sucking d1ck at plaza

[compact sluice]

there is SO much worse

of me

out there

hahaha

[harsh scroll]

how did you decide how long you played each scen for?

[gray grotto]

I just set 3 runs minimum and always went over it myself

[glad comet]

@teal sierra TEKHNIKALLI THIS IS ASTRA - HALFWAY CELESTIAL PACE RUN I FULLY WHIFFED

fucking screenshot shit

basially I had 410 in 20s

Did half my PB in 20s

[teal sierra]

did u give up

[glad comet]

Yes, I'm nowhere near close to do that consistently

Especially if I spend like 4h to do 60 runs

RESET RESET RESET RESET fml

[teal sierra]

hard focus acc next time u play

[glad comet]

ye I'm still like in search of optimal focus state

99% of my dynamic runs are spam clicking at some point and it's hard for me to fight it without going 0.1 hits per hour

[teal sierra]

i started going real slow and then gradually raised my pace

to work on speed i just played the novice version

i need a static main to fix me

[warped shell]

Is this better than vdim for smoothness

[gray grotto]

Yes

[warped shell]

What scens should i play if im jade and wanna grind out to master and gm vt

[gray grotto]

All of the ones in the "extra" tab

[warped shell]

while im doing the playlist i do notice that some scens like smooth thin seem to be very beginner-intermediate level rather than something u should do to push master. does it still work even considering that?

[glad comet]

Yeah if you're not like horizon on it you can definitely improve, it's raw smoothness after all if you shake off the big smooth target quite a lot even knowing its exact route then you can definitely improve that

[gray grotto]

Even on "easier" scens you can do a lot of training and optimization

[harsh scroll]

what scores are you getting to make you say that?

[warped shell]

Not really scores, but ive heard that you should play scens where u have below around 50% accuracy on smoothness scens to improve

[harsh scroll]

icic

[pale finch]

am i about to get advanced scores

just realized my dpi was set to 1600 but my sens was still the same when I used 800 dpi

so I was playing on 20cm for the past year

[past slate]

For the past year?? 💀

I change my sens every breath I take ngl

(Only while playing kovaaks)

[pale finch]

it's because of my mouse setting on logitech hub

I haven't checked it after I took a break at the end of 2022

[past slate]

Ah

[pale finch]

sens is always same

mouse dpi is different

[past slate]

I meant like, changing it to be comfortable

[past slate]

Nice :D

[pale finch]

should get pre advanced today

[pale finch]

yessssssssssssssssssssss

[glad comet]

suavetrack sends their regards

[pale finch]

L horizontal smoothness

[glad comet]

[pale finch]

😭

[glad comet]

intermediate syw extra thin felt more like an achievement compared to anything else LMFOA

[pale finch]

I don't want to try harder. Getting perfect score is too tough

you should feel the same

[glad comet]

wym try harder

on what

[pale finch]

this bench

[glad comet]

I play like

1 section

[pale finch]

the scenarios are easy. Just don't wnat to grind them

[glad comet]

after vdim

mostly horizontal rn

[glad comet]

ye it gets bored for ppl

not for me tho I like it

my plan is get whatever rank is required to get suave gm and then bring other categories to that rank

so I don't have to worry about suave later

[pale finch]

what rank is required

i didn't hear of that

[glad comet]

I meant

whatever rank will get me suave gm

im pre-adv complete now

even tho I didnt play suave yet with that result I'm not sure if u can get gm with it

also I didn't work on any other non-horizontal smoothness yet my minitrack improved with suave

so I think horizontal is W

[pale finch]

minitrack 😵‍💫 I figured it out why I had 2432 score 2 years ago

cuz my fucking dpi was halved

[pale finch]

i choked

[glad comet]

why not 3k...

[pale finch]

I want to

I am having my exams this week and next week

I only practiced today on this week

Wish I have mor etime

[teal sierra]

steady track nova grind

[warped shell]

How does tsk rank correlate to kovaaks rank for smoothness

[gray grotto]

No clue

I wouldn't think about it too much

It is their own set of things

[dense tinsel]

It doesn't

[pale finch]

advanced

BLESSED

[glad comet]

@gray grotto I AM NOW SKILLFUL ENOUGH

To notice slow spots on my pad

Only took 120 days and getting GM

Now I understand what "mud" feels like

[gray grotto]

Time to spend 50 bucks on Artisan + another 50 bucks on import fees 😎

[glad comet]

REAL

artisan is best quality right ye

[glad comet]

I'm not eager to get it (I cud probs wash this and flip it since it's 900x400 and I never used the other side) but be good to know which one I'm aiming to get

This one claims to be fast/control so I assume this means balanced

which one is balanced for artisan and slightly faster than balanced?

[teal sierra]

went from gsrse to hayate otsu, jump in speed was crazy and now the otsu feels slow😭

gonna get raiden mid soon

[gray grotto]

Zero is technically speaking the balanced one

But pad-descriptions are often than not accurate. Have seen plenty of "controlled pads" by marketing which ended up being much faster

[glad comet]

yea idk

what's faster than zero?

if I go for artisan do I get zero or the faster one is what I'm thinking

[gray grotto]

That is up to you

In terms of speed from "slowest" to fastest: Zero > Otsu > Hien > Raiden

[glad comet]

Yea like I figured balanced is easiest but at the same time pretty much everyone just goes for speed since it's just better just requires more skill to control it?

[dense tinsel]

no

people just prefer speed because you can make it controlled anyways with low sens

you're not forced to pick 1 u can do both with speed pad

[glad comet]

so why did u say no

[dense tinsel]

because you were wrong

[glad comet]

pretty much everyone just goes for speed since it's just better just requires more skill to control it
?

[dense tinsel]

yeah read my message again

[glad comet]

im dyslexic

[dense tinsel]

tts time

[glad comet]

so ur telling speed pad = slow sens??!

I just dont quite understand what you meant if you may try to rephrase it pls

[dense tinsel]

vorkot moment 💔

[glad comet]

LMAO

if it's us two maybe it's a you problem...

[dense tinsel]

no it's definitely you two

[glad comet]

mb

[dense tinsel]

comprehension curse

because i always have to refer to irl situations instead

if you have a slow car it'll always be slow it can never have choices

if you have a fast car you can go slow or fast

so a fast car is better because it lets you change how you want to drive

like how a speed pad is better because you can change sens for how much control and speed you want.

[glad comet]

what i said was speed pads > cuz u can do both with skill

isn't that what you're saying...

[dense tinsel]

no because there's no skill in any of it

for either pad

maybe if you have an xqc build but i assumed better

[glad comet]

so glass pad doesn't require more skill to control it??

[dense tinsel]

no LOL

[glad comet]

whats even xqc build

[glad comet]

then why aint everyone on skypad

[dense tinsel]

i got used to it in an hour it's freelo

[dense tinsel]

why isn't everyone on the same peripherals for everything

[glad comet]

nah but I mean if speed is just better isn't it what everyone would go for regardless of preference

[dense tinsel]

well the obvious answer is that people don't try things

[glad comet]

what about those that tried glass for a while and were like nah too hard

pretty sure vorkot is one of them now no

[dense tinsel]

they just listen to whatever other people say

[dense tinsel]

it's funny because the best rated cloth pad that everyone goons for is just a temporary glass pad

either way it's just a long and rather useless conversation as it'll always end in people use what they're most comfy with

even if a lot of the time it's not the best option on the market

[glad comet]

alr

well I'll defo go for otsu at least then if it comes to it

[teal sierra]

no get raiden or else u will be sad

like me

im sad

[glad comet]

Idk I barely care about it tbh

Only reason to swap is current one dying

Even though I have slow spots I literally just forget about it and play just fine

[brazen sinew]

Wheres the Shidenkai in this list

Im going to Japan in 2 weeks so I'm about to buy the shit out of everything

Thank God you actually have like a testing section for mousepads in Japan such a based place

What are like some good skates I should look at never used any at all

Mostly cuz nothing ships here and Ali express is banned

Stock gpx skates are definitely something

[gray grotto]

I swapped away from glass cause I am tired of using a sleeve, the scratching and that I cannot keep my fingers on the pad.

All makes me feel icky given I have a texture + sound sensitivity.

Skypad's glide is amazing but I just cannot deal with this.

The Fnatic Jet almost completely resolves these issues while being as fast, if not slightly faster than glass but the pad's durability is bad.

[gray grotto]

Similar to the Raiden but it has been discontinued. You might find one or you might not. Don't get the black one at least given that one has tracking issues

[gray grotto]

Corepads, tiger ice, x-raypad jades

[gray grotto]

If I could read I likely would be upset

[teal sierra]

i dont have my fingers on the pad regardless

i feel like it brings inconsistency

prob why i suck at static tho

[brazen sinew]

The V2 is still made right?

[gray grotto]

Shidenkai is either already discontinued or discontinued very very soon

[brazen sinew]

Damn

Hopefully they have one

I feel like it would be a really good surface for me

[pale finch]

3 2800+ runs in a row and i sitll fucked up

bro ....

3100 run

[teal sierra]

what sens

[pale finch]

51cm

practicing my arm

like my hand always got into a weird position and gave up aiming

😶‍🌫️

[teal sierra]

id go faster than that

[pale finch]

nvm i got it brother

[teal sierra]

but its fine

demon

[pale finch]

i didn't choke as much

[pale finch]

im also very close to this .

[warped shell]

tsk wont make u improve on voltaic?

[gray grotto]

It does

There is just no direct correlation between TSK and Voltaic bench ranks

[pale finch]

so It seems I have the smoothness required for this scenario since I got 2436 2 years ago

I realized just by playing more times, i can now read the bot better

[pale finch]

fuck extra thin

[compact sluice]

Thank you for keeping vorkots post alive

[upbeat scarab]

it's so funny seeing everyone just colonise it

[pale finch]

[pale finch]

i fucking chokeedddddd

[gray grotto]

Should call it "Everyone's progression sheet" at this point

[compact sluice]

[gray grotto]

[brazen sinew]

Fr

[glad comet]

wait until summer when vorkot comes back with his army and decolonizes this thread by any means necessary...

[teal sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/deakin-josh-dibb-animal-collective-panda-bear-noah-avey-tare-gif-12045138103978072826

[dry zealot]

[teal sierra]

sigma

[compact sluice]

GJ on nova

[pale finch]

could have been decemt

[glad comet]

@teal sierra happy nova

do you think I should do the same and just grind 6 tasks (1 from each category)

[teal sierra]

yes

[glad comet]

reasons? 🥺

[teal sierra]

grind 6 tasks then actually get good after

[glad comet]

perfect pizza strat

I'll probs do it cuz

[teal sierra]

im just trying to speedrun astra

[glad comet]

I feel like first signs of slight burn out

And VDIMs take more time

And I feel like I'd rather play static every day 30 mins and add something else on top of that

[teal sierra]

i stopped playing vdim a long time ago

[glad comet]

they're still nice imo

just I don't fit it within 2h anymore

which sucks

[teal sierra]

i just play the tasks that are harder for me

like from the vdim

[glad comet]

ye

my sort of completionist nature be like

LEMME GET GOOD AT ENTIRE VDIM

and go elite

@gray grotto whats the term for your arm slowly crawling down on the pad

I forgot 😔

[teal sierra]

this happens to me

idk y

[glad comet]

it's completely normal

it has a term which I forgot

[solemn elbow]

999

[glad comet]

Perfect I'd never open that scen again

Unless you go for 1111

[solemn elbow]

i had that run

i choked so bad

so no not perfect

[glad comet]

[solemn elbow]

omg

im losing it

i keep getting like 960

[paper birch]

Is this even vorkot's thread anymore 👀

[teal sierra]

its my thread

look at the leaderboard

[paper birch]

Mans took over

[glad comet]

LMAO

Taken over by the rule of strongest

[teal sierra]

angleshot is so free

lock in

[glad comet]

IM ASS

😭

[paper birch]

share advice pls

[teal sierra]

for wat

[glad comet]

@teal sierra got 2432 on axi

ROAD TO NOVA BEGINS

[teal sierra]

W

[glad comet]

so how did u improve ur static since last time

flick faster?

[teal sierra]

bardpill

[glad comet]

so flick faster

[teal sierra]

focused on micros

[glad comet]

I played static on 40 my entire life

My micros are peak

Just gotta moving weirdly sometimes

[teal sierra]

i can flick really fast and be accurate

my micros were just bad

still are

but all good

[glad comet]

so I'm the opposite

[teal sierra]

spam pokeball

and play twoshot elite

[glad comet]

I used to be pretty fast

lemme compare our scores on pokeballs from adv vdim

[teal sierra]

ah man

vdim this vdim that

[glad comet]

it has ike

fuck ton of pokeball

I mean yea

I'll probably just push speedTS

like my flicks ain't that bad

[teal sierra]

i need to play ts

i just dont like it

[glad comet]

ur suave is 2.6k

ofc u hate it LMAO

gotta get a bit smooth

@dense tinsel are there similar to your static benches

[dense tinsel]

nah

[glad comet]

Like none that break it down into parts like that?

or is it just shimmy bench propaganda-lie

[teal sierra]

i need dynamic bench for aimlab

[glad comet]

pick the pace and maintain it manyeeee

[teal sierra]

im dynamic goat

its so fun

i need more stuff to play tho

[glad comet]

wait before I rinse your angleshot score

[glad comet]

vdim ofc

star clicking is goated

[teal sierra]

do it

[glad comet]

im skipping nova going directly for astra

nova IS NOT AN OPTION

I'll peek my score at last second if it's below 1100 I reset

🤠

[teal sierra]

peek

[glad comet]

yes

wide as well

[paper birch]

Im focused on target switching this week... 👀 Tips please. Or maybe a vod review hehe

Im also bad at static...

[teal sierra]

i cant help u

at any of those

[paper birch]

SAD

[teal sierra]

ik

im sad

[paper birch]

My problem with static tho was that big explosive

[teal sierra]

watch a vod of someone one rank higher

[paper birch]

initial flick

My coach told me I had no sense of urgency

I wasnt doing them big explosive flicks into micros

But I still got a jade score on both

[teal sierra]

r u on aimlab?

[paper birch]

(barely)

Aimlabs yeh

[teal sierra]

play pulse shot i think its called

[paper birch]

Its the one where they go big right

[teal sierra]

forces fast

yeah

[paper birch]

Yeah its in the vdim

[glad comet]

SPEED

SPEED IS KEY

SPEED IS EVERYTHING

[teal sierra]

just play that

[glad comet]

assuming you're smooth enough

[paper birch]

I got used to the pacing of the one in vdim

I have masters in tracking

Both precision and tracking

[teal sierra]

STOP VDIM MAN JUST PLAY ONE TASK 60 TIMES

[glad comet]

VDIM

VDIM

VDIM

VDIM

[paper birch]

precision and reactive*

[glad comet]

SPAM VDIM SO THIS BAD OPINION GETS LOST IN MESSAGES

[paper birch]

I honestly think its just speed LOL

I play the actual benchmarks alot

[glad comet]

If you have suave master you should just push speed of your flicks in TS

[paper birch]

but i also spam the scenarios in the vdim

[teal sierra]

if u know your issue then why play the whole vdim

i actually dont understand

[paper birch]

Makes me feel better...

[glad comet]

Try playing 60cm for a bit to get used to speed movement and then switch back to your normal sens, goal is to keep the arm movement speed while controlling it on normal sens

[paper birch]

🥹

60cm

[teal sierra]

give up

[paper birch]

Is my static

Sens

[glad comet]

Do that on TS

[paper birch]

tracking is 45 or 30

[glad comet]

If you're too comfortable with 60 fuck it go 80

[paper birch]

BET

but i think solo has more credibility

since hes

[glad comet]

but tbh like neither of these are required

[paper birch]

NOVA

👀

[glad comet]

this man is ass

please

[paper birch]

But ill do 80 cm

[teal sierra]

im not saying vdim is ass

[paper birch]

Is he

[teal sierra]

its just u know ur issue is speed so spam the speed task no???

[paper birch]

Okay ill 80 cm then ill try pulseshot

[glad comet]

Honestly all you need for switching is just speed most of the time

[paper birch]

Its just that big initial flick!

[glad comet]

Except for arcswitch ofc

[paper birch]

Coach did tell me to do pulseshot early too tho

Before i hit jade on static

[teal sierra]

me and this coach 🤝

[glad comet]

But you don't even need to go 60/80cm to develop master-level speed on whatever sens you use for switching. I played switching 40cm only and were just fine

[paper birch]

Hes cool

VT driize

[teal sierra]

u play everything on 40

[glad comet]

yea

got to gm

what now

huh?!?!

huh!??!

[teal sierra]

?

[paper birch]

He also told me not go lower than 45

[glad comet]

pulseshot is kind of task you hate cuz ur bad at it at first but then u get good and u be like holy shit that's good

[paper birch]

cm

[teal sierra]

why angri?

[glad comet]

ye my point is

[paper birch]

I like pulseshot tho

[glad comet]

like

master is just

you know

master

nothing special just play it

[paper birch]

Damn im not even master

🥹

[glad comet]

can't stay on target after flick - work on smoothness? Can but scores are not it - push speed and try to keep the same smoothness

[paper birch]

But target switching this week

[teal sierra]

ive never been jade so who's the real winner

jade harder than nova

[paper birch]

I'll switch back to static or dynamic next week

[glad comet]

nova is new jade after I get it

[paper birch]

soon?

[teal sierra]

when tho?

[glad comet]

tbh it all depends on my static at this point

no matter how good scores I hit on everything else

[teal sierra]

i had 300 hours aimlab before i knew about vt. now im at 800

[glad comet]

afk hours?

[teal sierra]

zero

i cant play val cause i lag'

[glad comet]

I'm on 400 hours with some afk

[teal sierra]

so i just lab

[glad comet]

ACTUALLY

+13 hours from kvk

[teal sierra]

woah

goat

[glad comet]

not even nova yet time to give up

[paper birch]

Never give up

[pale finch]

hey yo wtf

this thread went viral

Time to grind after studying my exam shit

[pale finch]

idk what is this choke

all i need was a 95% acc

[paper birch]

Solo does that

[gray grotto]

I have heard people refer to it as "Mouse drift"

[kind rune]

u guys go down??

i always drift up ,...

[gray grotto]

@ionic patrol grats by the way 🙂

[teal sierra]

thank u

but its time to actually get good

[compact sluice]

bro is jacksepticeye

https://tenor.com/view/jacksepticeye-speed-gif-20515611

[glad comet]

Ye found it too but they also refer to drift as to when cursor is shakingly moving towards some direction when you're not touching the mouse

[dense tinsel]

oh wait you meant it that way

tsk bench i guess

[glad comet]

nah I meant

static specifically

[dense tinsel]

Oh nah

[glad comet]

with micros/speed etc broken into parts

[dense tinsel]

actually

I think there was some weird aimlab one

i dont remember the name though

never tried it cos it had like 200 scens

[glad comet]

perfect LMAO

[dense tinsel]

there was so much

[dense tinsel]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SB19CNJqjBQIl71zblF4SseCVot_BuGnqlTXfIXV4AU/edit#gid=2124777537

found it

its aimlab

[glad comet]

what the

[dense tinsel]

yea......

😭

[glad comet]

those are just 1wXt tho

[dense tinsel]

Nah

I don't remember what level si what

But the map size increases so you start with hipfire micros and it gets bigger until widewall

[glad comet]

oh

guess I'll add them to the "to try" list along with your benches

[dense tinsel]

so theyre never being played 💔

[pale finch]

So many scenarios 😶‍🌫️

Should just play 1 scenario of each

[pale finch]

time for me to test it out

there is only 3 people on the leaderboard =.=

[rain hare]

I played your benches buddy 🫂

[pale finch]

ayo , that's almost immortal

that's embarrasing bro

[glad comet]

@teal sierra get your score up 🗣️

[teal sierra]

frick

i got this

[teal sierra]

cant do it

ur getting gapped when i stop being sick

[glad comet]

AIGHT BET

I'm fully GM in static btw

idc

I can't hit GM score but I am GM

[paper birch]

Damn

I want gm static too

[pale finch]

i was too bored

improving so much !!

i guess im just tired

but pace went crazy

there we go

not even trying but idk why my flicks suddenly are so accurate

[pale finch]

ayoooooooo first horizontal advanced

get 180 to advanced tmr prolly

gotta rets

[gray grotto]

Guys no offense but I really would appreciate it if you all stop posting here

Just bloating up my sheet for no reason

Post in your own/create your own please.

[compact sluice]

O

[dense tinsel]

💔

[glad comet]

F

[wispy hare]

[teal sierra]

start a thread

[glad comet]

oh you don't know

LMOA

mine exists for like 17 weeks now

[teal sierra]

so everyone has one

[glad comet]

but I don't spam scores in there

just short day recaps

#1191909679228530728

[teal sierra]

i need somewhere to yap

[glad comet]

nah

my thread aint for yapping

shimmy is on his way to yap there

ff

[glad comet]

we need to hunt for new threads to conquer

@dense tinsel I saw you typing 👁️

[teal sierra]

https://discord.com/channels/153919886471593984/1124731342098272266/threads/1225267693494730772/1225267693494730772

own this guy

[glad comet]

that thread is already like #general

[pale finch]

I’m so offended rn.I am going to yap Eva’a post

[glad comet]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[teal sierra]

guys stop posting here

[pale finch]

What is grandmaster equivalent to in aimerz benchmark

[glad comet]

indeed I'm sorry 😔

[paper birch]

Guys i hit

arcswwitch

masters

i was in a flow state then realized i was in it and was gonna break pb

and panicked in the middle

And i kinda fumbled and tried to collect myself before i ruined my score any further

[gray grotto]

@paper birch ^

[paper birch]

Oops sorry

[gray grotto]

Np

[dense tinsel]

💔

he doubled down

[upbeat scarab]

you deleted yours BC people were spamming in it

[dense tinsel]

sky is blue

atleast people listen here

[gray grotto]

Probably been shared already, but good video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qe5yyoGGP24

Just got it in my recommendations

[gray grotto]

Need y'all opinion on something.

Trying to update my logo. Has my initials "b" and "p" in there + will be used for a video/photo portfolio.

Any preferences?

[compact sluice]

New 2

Number 1

[gray grotto]

Friends of mine also seem to like the taller stem more (new 2)

[compact sluice]

Looks more like a P

[dense tinsel]

new 2 number 1

[rain hare]

I always thought it was a turbo LMAO.

assumed you were just a car guy

but yes new 2 left is the best imo as well

[gray grotto]

Haha nah it was supposed to resemble a camera's shutter but I can definitely see what you mean.

But thanks for the input so far y'all. Seems like Row 2 will definitely be the pick

[compact sluice]

Ofc goat

[wispy hare]

i prefeer to not have the Iris in the logo because imo its a standart photographer thing wich not every one undersands. I would go with new 2 because it looks more like a P wich its supposed to look. i would go for the 3rd one because the dot makes it more interesting imo. so New 2 - 3 for me. 🙂 overall the logo looks very simple but effective and it works for everything. Looking good

[gray grotto]

Appreciate the explanation 👍 Thank you

I was mostly trying to use the negative space within the logo to show the "P" but I guess it's "not enough" to some degree.

[fair heron]

imo id say just stay with this one

[gray grotto]

Not feeling the other options?

[fair heron]

nah not rlly

[gray grotto]

I see I see

[teal sierra]

guys

no typing in the vorkot thread

jesus

[gray grotto]

I literally asked them to comment on something

[wispy hare]

you think you are better because u nova now

[teal sierra]

u guys cant tell sarcasm through a text?

noobs

[wispy hare]

i only understand sarcasm when i hit gm 😮

[gray grotto]

Sarcasm update wasn't installed in my firmware

[glad comet]

guys
no typing in the vorkot thread
jesus

[gray grotto]

guys
no typing in the vorkot thread
jesus

[wispy hare]

guys
no typing in the vorkot thread
jesus

[compact sluice]

guys
no typing in the vorkot thread
jesus

[upbeat scarab]

new 1 number 2 imo

[rain hare]

this is p clean ngl

big tire vibes from this

[gray grotto]

Perfect

[glad comet]

@gray grotto WHATSUP

I didn't mean to use your thread to ask something but...

@dense tinsel is constant speed in static that you advice about keeping the speed during the flick or

[gray grotto]

Feel free to yap about

[glad comet]

What doink mr vorkot man

[brittle jacinth]

yo vorkot, long time dude

how u doing?

[gray grotto]

Thread is open to yapping again otherwise this just so dead 😂

[teal sierra]

???????????

[glad comet]

holy shit solo

we got it

the yappage thread

[gray grotto]

???????????????

[teal sierra]

the hypocrisy is real

[glad comet]

ill correct u on that

it's called sexism

but reverse sexism doesn't exist obviously so shut up

[gray grotto]

I am confused

[teal sierra]

ur secist

x

[glad comet]

he's med cuz u told him to stop yapping last time

and now u encourage yapping cuz its me

presumably

hows ur shit vorkot july is coming

[gray grotto]

Nah I encourage yapping cause I changed my mind lmao. I wanted to comment that some day soon, but given you are already ahead of me I thought I just mention it now too then

Anyway

[teal sierra]

no way ur asking @dense tinsel for advice

[glad comet]

nah I wanted to

get his explanation

on shit

and then ping u

and ask u why u aint doing it

🤣

[teal sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-better-homelander-antony-starr-the-boys-im-better-gif-25853880

[glad comet]

I mean im still chasing secrets of static yk

[gray grotto]

@glad comet @brittle jacinth Doing okay-ish I guess. Not physically though. Will have an MRI later this week cause I might have a herniated disc that is causing me trouble.

[glad comet]

even tho it's just about giving more time in ik

[brittle jacinth]

ouch. that doesnt sound good