Vorkot's casual training sesh

[gray grotto]

Playing on 20-25cm simply for the sake of targetting the wrist but averages stay around the same or keep dipping and then slowly climbing back up

Same for centering

And I refuse to use a slower sens simply to cheese the score

Or am I like just misunderstanding the purpose of cenetering

@dense tinsel @compact sluice @glad comet @dry zealot

Not sure what yall think

[compact sluice]

honestly was thinking the same recently because all smoothness scens I have been told to implement my arm/shoulder lol

[gray grotto]

Like horizontal is stagnating for me while Diagonal and Pasu are still steadily rising in terms of averages, even with that dip from last night.

Forgot to tag you too @upbeat scarab

^

[dry zealot]

I think u will enjoy it more if u take the approach of training X amount of days on high sens 20~cm then 30-35 cm, repeat

U can probably see results overtime better that way

[gray grotto]

I could yeah, but I was just expecting to see some form of progression with 20-25 already rather than dipping on those scenarios. Doesn't make sense t me

[upbeat scarab]

smothness like that is something that is just a raw mechanical skill

so it will take a long time to improve

you should be focusing on exactly what your wrist/fingers are doing and what errors that may be causing

e.g. tension/flicking/jitter etc

its just a very different way of developing when compared to something like pasu which is 90% technique

[upbeat scarab]

yh thats because your reading is improveing most likely

also this stagnation is probably not helped if you're just playing syw

[gray grotto]

It is definitely not tension, that is for sure.

It is just that my wrist on itself is just shaky (just like anyone has to a degree).

Oddly enough, using 35cm at first made my 25cm/360 smoother rather than the other way around

[upbeat scarab]

like is there a thinner/faster version yhou can swap to? if you're not alternating the version then you're likely auto piloting a lot of the run

if there isn't push the sens higher, like teh 10-15 range, just mix it up more to force you to maintain focus and further isolate these issues

[gray grotto]

Will do. Can definitely say I am not autopiloting but it is just that the whole wrist stability thing has just been a bit of a headache

[upbeat scarab]

w sym, try (if you can) recording some vods w handcam

like this is one of the only times you should be doing this in training, bc 99% of the time you want to foucs on in game technique and not think about what your body is physically doing

but this is such a mechanical senario that its useful to analyse it

[gray grotto]

Don't have a handcam :/ so that won't be an option.

[upbeat scarab]

as i said, its likely because there is no active learnign component to it

like you cant learn bot movement, or learn when to click

or focus on micro over wide flick

its just raw mechanics, so there will be minimal score bump from learning senario

i would also agree with ksyyz on plahing on 30cm sometimes

you do need that contrast for the higher sens to feel as effective

[gray grotto]

Alright I will pay more attention to all of that for future runs of SYW and centering. Thanks

Smoothness grind (Day 5/30)
(Link to day 4: #1196131037172990002 message )

Link to next day: #1196131037172990002 message

Benchmarks before starting day 5 (same as day 4):

Improved my averages slightly than yesterday 👍 horizontal is being a bit of a pain at the moment.

Updated sensitivity list:

After a brief discussion with multiple people it is best for me to change up some of the sens-values. Tried forcing 20-25cm into scenarios like SYW and centering to hard-focus wrist smoothness but my inconsistency with it likely hurting me in the long run.

• VAI: 30-35cm.

• Pasu Track Extrasmooth TE + Extrasmooth small TE: 30cm-35cm for training. 35-40cm for pushing.

• PTS Small TE: 35cm for training. 40cm for pushing.

• PTS DoubleExtra Small TE + PTeS eeSmall TE: 40cm for training, 40-50cm for pushing.

• All horizontal: 30-35cm for training. 35cm-40cm for pushing.

The only time I know people go that low is just temporarily to be smoother at 30-40
there's nothing wrong with using a higher cm for smoothness just don't go to like 45+

If you suck at centering on 20cm when there's alternatives you would prefer then its probably better to change. Locking yourself into such a narrow sens window just sounds bad

If your wrist stability is already shit why would you make it go through one of the hardest ranges for stability. It makes sense that you'd hit a wall straight away with little to no gains.
it'll always be better to just do something comfy and then think about making it slightly harder over time when the gains aren't the same
and then go back to the original comfy sens for a good score boost since it'll feel easier

It's like when you tried going faster on static and threw away all of your progress
instead of just continuing to optimize and improve your current pace and technique.

You yourself said that 20cm is the end of where it's optimal to use so that's the hardest in your own opinion, would you go hardest option if you're literally lowest rank in horizontal smoothness. You're essentially picking Astra level difficulty task when you're novice.

[upbeat scarab]

if it helps, i can barely break 400 on syw lol

[gray grotto]

Lets suffer together

[dense tinsel]

could you refresh scens and try this

i just want some feedback before i try and add stuff

[upbeat scarab]

i can run it as well if you post code

[dense tinsel]

its just a scen

[upbeat scarab]

ah ok

[dense tinsel]

no playlist

[upbeat scarab]

how does the scoring work

ik its like how plaza/air score, but is it just like a score threshold on each part or what

also i'd love to see a pokeball version rarther than clicking for staic

is ther any acc scoring?

bc i can hold m1 on the static parts and the bots do not have enough hp for it

but i do like the idea of the scen

[dense tinsel]

there isnt

each static kill is 6 score and each tracking kill is about 20-30

i dont remember the number

[upbeat scarab]

the static bots need more hp

[dense tinsel]

i could make a pokeball version

[upbeat scarab]

like, they seem to only have 1hp rn

and you can still hold m1 to shoot them

[dense tinsel]

yea i set it to 1hp just so that you had the option of clicking on it

[upbeat scarab]

it feels super easy to cheese ngl

[gray grotto]

New smoothbot PB 😄

and my averages on PreciseOrb are slightly higher

[dense tinsel]

i can try a pokeball version for now

[gray grotto]

Plaza finally plat now too 🙌

[dense tinsel]

i made the static bots regen with a pretty long ttk

should be uncheeseable now and it actually feels way better

[dense tinsel]

huge gains sheesh

[gray grotto]

Diamond plaza 😄

While it was unranked before

Smoothness buff is real

[dense tinsel]

geeeeeeeeeezzz

ahaha

[gray grotto]

If 5 days of TSK can already make me break records on Plaza, smoothbot and slightly raise my averages on Preciseorb then wonder how day 30 gonna look like

[gray grotto]

30 short of diamon

[dry zealot]

Good improvements

[glad comet]

Give it a couple more days, if it gives nothing - likely a bad approach. I'd probably go for slow sens that makes it easy as hell, even with that simplified you probably won't hit "insane" scores so just practice until it's getting too easy similarly to how you do with other scens?

[dense tinsel]

i dont think you need 20cm just for wrist lol

just plant your arm on the table and dont move it

the only time i know people go that low is just temporarily to be smoother at 30-40

theres nothing wrong with using a higher cm for smoothness just dont go to like 45+

at that point you wont be able ot use wrist except for syw

[gray grotto]

Yeah might dip it down a little bit

[gray grotto]

I have seen someone else comment something like that a while ago, so maybe I just should do 25-30cm then or so but I personally am not aware on how people usually tackle this type of weakness

[glad comet]

Vorkot on his way to swap recommended tracking range from 20-30 to 30-45

[gray grotto]

"Okay fuck it, 40-80cm"

[glad comet]

80cm fot syw best score

Who cares about wrist anyway

Just go slower it's more reliable and consistent!

[dense tinsel]

just do whatever you think will translate to better static scores

if you suck at centering on 5cm when theres alternatives you would prefer then its probably better to change

locking yourself into such a narrow sens window just sounds bad

[glad comet]

I agree 2.5cm is just a better alternative

[dense tinsel]

when the best precise players play at 40-55cm i dont think cheesing exists its just high sens idiots forcing their stupid ideas onto other people

[glad comet]

Matty tweeted recently that he doesn't think cheesing exists

Score is a score and ability to cheese is just bad scen design

[dense tinsel]

like if i got gm multiclick with my foot and started making fun of hand cheesers that dont use their foot id just look like an idiot

its the same w these guys

[gray grotto]

I understand, but like I mentioned: I used it mostly to target the wrist the most, let alone the shakiness of it.

But i believe I once saw Dark mention in general on how "using the sens that fits the scenario" alone can also allow you to just train properly? Or something like that.

Maybe I just need to let go of my former mindset then and just use whatever fits in general, given that going slower than 40cm on it for instance would be considered "cheesing" for me at first.

[dense tinsel]

doesnt apply to smoothness

thats a lot more for speedts

[gray grotto]

Sorry, which part doesn't apply? 😛

[dense tinsel]

using sens that fits the scenario

in fact using that logic you'd be better off at 40-60cm as thats what the best scores all use

and also if youre going to be playing static at 50cm (just a guess) then what would centering at 20cm help u for? its mostly arm with some wrist aiming so how would only wrist help lol

[gray grotto]

Given that my wrist is pretty shaky, I though that would help with just making my wrist... well, smoother in general.

[dense tinsel]

yea but if your wrist stability is already shit why would you make it go through one of the hardest sens ranges for stability

it makes sense that youd hit a wall straight away with little to no gains

itll always be better to just do something comfy and then think about making it slightly harder over time when the gains arent the same

and then go back to the original comfy sens for a good score boost since it'll feel easier

its like going to the gym as a noob and going straight to 50kg bench of course ur just gonna be laying down with the weights perma stuck to ur chest

[gray grotto]

But wouldn't it make sense to tackle the instability by forcing myself to use something that I am not as used to (without feeling impossible, mind you) so that I have to focus a little harder on keeping it smoother/more stable, thus resulting in less shakiness with enough practise?

[gray grotto]

Basically this, but doing it sooner rather than later. If that makes sense.

It doesn't feel impossible to use mind you. Just a little extra challenging.

[dense tinsel]

i dont think so because youve just started

sens changes should only be done once all other options are exhausted

[glad comet]

You're essentially picking astra level difficulty task when you're novice

[dense tinsel]

its like when you tried going faster on static and threw away all of your progress

instead of just continuing to optimise and improve your current pace and technique

[glad comet]

You yourself said that 20cm is the end of where it's optimal to use so that's the hardest in your own opinion, would you go hardest option if you're literally lowest rank in horizontal smoothness

[gray grotto]

Yeah.... very good points both of you.

I just needed to hear that to break my stubbornness

I will make a more realistic approach for next time

Thank you all yet again.

[dense tinsel]

[gray grotto]

I guess I was a bit too focussed on "optimizing for later" instead of focusing on "now"

I guess I am gonna change my SYW/Centering then from 20-25 to 30-35/40

Unrelated, but what happened to ENVISION? I noticed they aren't in the server anymore.

[dense tinsel]

ask @compact sluice

theyre best friends

[gray grotto]

@compact sluice Did you bully ENVISION again

[compact sluice]

?

waz\t

what

ive dmed him

twice

ever

😭

[gray grotto]

Yeah that means best friends now-a-days

[compact sluice]

but no he left because he wanted a break from the aim community or smthn

[gray grotto]

We are super friends cause we DM'd more. Shimmy and Lilac and Eva are Ultra friends cause we DM'd even more.

[gray grotto]

Ah understandable.

[compact sluice]

😭

[gray grotto]

Updated sensitivity list for TSK:

• VAI: 30-35cm.

• Pasu Track Extrasmooth TE + Extrasmooth small TE: 30-35cm for training. 35-40cm for pushing.

• PTS Small TE: 35cm for training. 35-40cm for pushing.

• PTS DoubleExtra Small TE + PTeS eeSmall TE: 40cm for training, 40-50cm for pushing.

• All horizontal: 30-35cm for training. 35cm-40cm for pushing.

@dense tinsel Changs all the horizontal shit to 30-35cm and made a few others a bit slower too.

New grind tomorrow ready to go yet again 😎

Was very nice to see Smoothbot and PreciseOrb being already averagely much higher even though I still suck the most at PreciseOrb

Thought had an absolute shit run and it was better than before. Aint complaining 🤷‍♂️

Plaza buff was real

I am like 8 energy off diamond

[tepid ridge]

I'd say it's about being consistent in the track and missing almost none in Smooth your wrist (for a whole minute). And don't feel afraid to lower sens, if you know what are the correct techniques (which I know u do) then you should know when it feels like cheesing it

[dry zealot]

I like this

[gray grotto]

I like you

[gray grotto]

Yup I was yet again not focusing on consistency but brute forcing gains.

[tepid ridge]

Make sure we take breaks during tracking cuz it's the most exhausting (imo) between other categories mentally, having to focus on 1 target without changing for more than an hour

[dire compass]

I know, Stevy sucks at coding.

[gray grotto]

Funnily enough it isn't for me. I enjoy it quite a lot and can play it for an extensive period of time

[glad comet]

Not adhd behavior...

[gray grotto]

Ball go trrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[glad comet]

balls working

I just smurfed in val

[paper birch]

Ball do go brrr

[glad comet]

@gray grotto I just played wrist smoothness on AL on 40 and 35 cm (compared to usual 25cm) - no difference score-wise. It literally doesn't matter I guess

[gray grotto]

Aight thanks. I was mainly too stubborn thinking I would be inflating my scores a bit on those scens but guess that is not the case and I indeed was just making it harder.

[gray grotto]

No training for today. Very limited time. Maybe later tonight if my Dungeons and Dragons session is shorter

[west python]

Vorkot do you have pasu vods, I can watch?

[gray grotto]

I do not and I am not particularly great at it either

[west python]

Fuck, looking for good vods to base my own technique off of.
😭

[west python]

DnD, you're so based for that. 💪

[glad comet]

Got to VAI benches All intermediate + 2 advanced, pretty vibey

[gray grotto]

Smoothness grind (Day 6/30)
(Link to day 5: #1196131037172990002 message )

Link to next day: #1196131037172990002 message

Benchmarks before starting day 6 (same as day 5)

Pasu track

[gray grotto]

Horizontal

[glad comet]

Master getting gapped by gold complete gg

[gray grotto]

Don't let me re-organize my stuff again 😂

[glad comet]

Get mod so you can delete messages

Just tell me to delete mine if you want it organized

[gray grotto]

@glad comet @dry zealot Do both of you mind to delete your 2 comments between the screenshots? Then I have everything stacked and y'all can go ham

[glad comet]

You finished your run now?

[gray grotto]

Imma done yes

[glad comet]

[gray grotto]

[glad comet]

gapped

[dry zealot]

[gray grotto]

** I AM PLAT COMPLETE**

[gray grotto]

** AND NOW DIAMOND **

[past slate]

WWWW

[glad comet]

WAIT 1300 FOR MASTER?

WHEN U HAVE 1320 AND ACCURACY PENALTY ON AL?

[dense tinsel]

[dense tinsel]

AL targets are bigger

[glad comet]

How bigger

[ruby tangle]

HELL YEEAH CONGRATS UR COOKING

[compact sluice]

GOAT

[compact sluice]

They’re the same size as 1w4ts targets are in S3 Kovaaks

but these ones are RASP

Targets

So they’re smaller

[upbeat scarab]

YOOOO YOURE CRAZY

We've got to get you on a pasu arc soon

I will put you in the vod dungeon

[tepid ridge]

One of the most influential person that is on this server is on their way to speed run turning to the goat ❤️

[gray grotto]

Oh god no😭😭😭

Thanks everyone❤️

[compact sluice]

or bounce

I can get you bounce Master

easyyyyy

bounce god here

[dense tinsel]

need to fix the skyts ngl

skyts below 1w5 is crazy

[compact sluice]

true

skyts is easier static

[gray grotto]

@dense tinsel @compact sluice currently skypad nerfed a bit so i cannot get it much higher atm🥲

[dense tinsel]

skypad is literally the best for speedts bro

[gray grotto]

But my flicking sucks

Skill issue'd

[dense tinsel]

you dont need speed though

[gray grotto]

I know but I am still ass

Booty

Cheeks

But yeah. TSK grind first. Static grind after that

Then work on what you told me.

The biggest issue I just have right now is adjusting to the lower friction of the skypad for stopping. It is currently difficult for me to decelerate without interfering myself unless I take it easy (which I am doing).

But that will be worked out with time

[compact sluice]

bounce is all technique

doesnt matter what pad ur ow

n

on**

[gray grotto]

I was mainly referring to static/SkyTS

Bounce can suck my ass regardless of pad

[compact sluice]

ONCE I TEACH U TECHNIQUE

GM BOUNCE

EASY

also bounce scens are generally good for mouse control

[gray grotto]

My bounce is really bad so some tips on that would be awesome by that point

BounceTS was by far the hardest bench for me.

[compact sluice]

upload vod

bounceshot

preferably

cuz ts is mid

[gray grotto]

Bounceshot was more tolerable

I don't have one and I honestly won't be touching it for a while but i think in around a month's time I'll come back to this

Bit overwhelmed with some IRL stuff atm so I will just focus on tracking for now on.

Prolly need to ask Sini to remove my helpful role again 😔 but will see

[compact sluice]

Noo

why

just because you have helpful

doesn't mean

you have a DUTY

to help people

Just help out at your own pace

also, with the amount you've helped people, you deserve it permanently bro

we need a special role for u

[gray grotto]

I know, but as stupid it may sound it is like some sort of mental connection I need to sever

[compact sluice]

fair enough

[gray grotto]

Makes me then much less inclined to open #advice and #1019641746776412200 all the time

[dense tinsel]

i improve the mnost when i shadow grind and dont try ot help people

focusing on yourself is the key

[gray grotto]

Yeah for real. Need some of that cause I haven't been thinking for myself lately.

[compact sluice]

actually

looking at other peoples stuff helps me improve

helps me understand more about aim

[upbeat scarab]

I have never played bounce

like legit I think I gave less than 20 runs on any bounce clicking scen

[compact sluice]

bahahaha

i love bounce

its so freeeee

[upbeat scarab]

it probably is tbf

like it kinda looks it

[compact sluice]

once you get the technique

it's just

being consistent

[gray grotto]

Official now.

[upbeat scarab]

my goat

my actual goat

[gray grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-goat-gif-26619008

[glad comet]

@gray grotto wasn't your progress kinda fast

[gray grotto]

Once I started getting into it a bit then it went pretty quickly yeah lol

but still not doing it like super consistently

so it could've been more

[gray grotto]

Smoothness grind (Day 7/30)
(Link to day 6: #1196131037172990002 message)

Link to next day: #1196131037172990002 message

Benchmarks before day 7:

Just finished the run. Nothing special. Improved some averages. Some dipped. It is what it is.

[glad comet]

How did you beat all my scores EXCEPT the 180/90 centering on horizontal lmao

Actually it's only 180

And I have like 600 points more for no reason

[gray grotto]

No clue

my wrist just says no

[dense tinsel]

[dense tinsel]

the 180/90 is so small bro

[glad comet]

Nah but he beat me on 90

not 180

[dense tinsel]

i keep resetting cos im not used to low acc getting good scores still

the pasu and smooth horizontal ones need like 80+ acc for pb

compared to the extra thin and 90/180

[gray grotto]

VAI has become reset-paradise for me

[dense tinsel]

bro

VAI spawns........

[gray grotto]

Up, down, up, up, up, down, down, down, down, down, up

[dense tinsel]

i will wait 10 tries for it to start down

and the moment i say fuck it we go up it goes down for another 10

[gray grotto]

I always prefer the up ones haha

[compact sluice]

evats spawn

s

are pissing me oiff

rn

as well

[gray grotto]

EvaTS is just RNG fest for real

[crisp ferry]

is there something annoying about them i never really noticed

im a burger but like i cant see anything i dislike about evaTS 😭

Its usually just a skill issue on my side 💀

[gray grotto]

For me it is the spawns.

Sometimes the bots will continuously spawn around the middle of the screen which means easy farming, but often they don't so you have to "waste time" looking around for them

[crisp ferry]

oh dude i was wanting to Alt F4 my life when this happened in speedTS for me

Sometimes they spawn allowing me to continue a streak but other times they just spawn SO far away its hell having to do like “guess flicks” if that makes sense

[compact sluice]

It’s annoying because I will pb if they spawn nice

but if they spawn shit I get -40 from pb

[dense tinsel]

it's the same with speedts tbf

you can go +100 with god rng or spam reset on dog spawns

for an hour and get nowhere near pb

[compact sluice]

true

[dense tinsel]

it's just a lot more obvious in eva

because of the ttk

[gray grotto]

No training today. I am sick as fuck.

[dense tinsel]

i hope you get better soon

[gray grotto]

Thanks man

[glad comet]

Get well soon

[gray grotto]

thanks eva

[glad comet]

Hope it's not as bad that it knocks you on the bed for couple of days like it was with me

[gray grotto]

I guess I will see tomorrow. It started this morning and has been escalating ever since. Pretty tired atm but managing

[gray grotto]

@teal sierra Become part of the Progress family

[glad comet]

@gray grotto I forgot to congrats...

On demotion

[gray grotto]

Thanks, never been happier 😂

[teal sierra]

ok

[glad comet]

NOW U CAN SHOW OFF UR DIAMOND RANK INSTEAD

BETTER IS IT

LITERAL W

Make sure to skip jade and get master role tho

[teal sierra]

r u gm now? eva

[glad comet]

Yea

[gray grotto]

Nah imma (eventually maybe) get jade for the memes

[glad comet]

Jade advices

[gray grotto]

Likely not.

[teal sierra]

i cant get pasu to master

[glad comet]

???????????????

[teal sierra]

idk y

[glad comet]

AND U HAVE VAL CHARACTER ON YOUR PFP

[teal sierra]

aimlab>

[glad comet]

Oh

Mb

Is KvK that harder

[teal sierra]

its just pasu

im not used to it

[glad comet]

pasu is like first score everyone gets to master

esp when coming from tacfps

[teal sierra]

bruh

[glad comet]

like literally open #scores

[teal sierra]

im locking in

[glad comet]

and see every single first master score angleshot ss

[teal sierra]

angle shot is free

pasu hard

[glad comet]

I'd try but I don't even have time to train what I want already

[teal sierra]

@glad comet W motivation

[glad comet]

All about mentality

You probably just got used to the scen though

[upbeat scarab]

getting jade, skipping master and waitting for gm would be amazing

[gray grotto]

getting jade, skipping master, going back to bronze, getting hardstuck silver, cry myself to sleep

[void kestrel]

ur the goat

[gray grotto]

🐐

[crisp ferry]

[compact sluice]

you feeling any better goat?

[dense tinsel]

yea i am

[compact sluice]

[gray grotto]

A little. Currently starting with Horizontal

I was doing like SYW for 5-10 minutes. Didn't get much improvement.

Did Center II 90 for like 5 minutes, suddely my horizontal got smoother. Now my SYW is better too

Center II 90 >>>> SYW

Friendship ended with SYW

Not sure what I am doing different to 10-15 mins ago lmao

Wrist suddenly just smoother

I guess I notice I am not trying to speed-match as hard now? I am little bit "undertracking" more I suppose, as in I am trying to phyiscally move my wrist a little less forcefully compared to earlier.

I guess note for next time: "Move wrist less hard" 😅

Comming full cicrcle now

Going from underutilizing my wrist months ago to now likely overutilizing my wrist to an extend (pushing the speed a little too hard)

Make it make sense

It works very well though

Huge

@glad comet hey

@dry zealot your turn now bud

[dense tinsel]

imagine getting sniped

[upbeat scarab]

I will snipe every single tracking scen of yours

[dense tinsel]

(easy)

[upbeat scarab]

(hasn't pushed them in months)

[glad comet]

Idk if u sniped me but I still have to bench pasu

[gray grotto]

what's your steam nickname?

[dry zealot]

I injured my right index finger so i cant really use my right hand, good improvement man

[gray grotto]

Meanwhile VAI

Guess Imma need to use a slightly slower sens for them too (30cm now, maybe 35cm for future reference)

[glad comet]

🤫

[gray grotto]

yippeee

[gray grotto]

get well soon man

[dry zealot]

Thx

[gray grotto]

Smoothness grind (Day 8/30)
(Link to day 7: #1196131037172990002 message)

Link to next day: #1196131037172990002 message

Benchmarks before day 8 (same as day 7):

Made some good strides with some of my horizontal scores. The rest was flip flopping between a bit better and being a bit below average.

Note to self:

• Part of my smoothness issue, especially horizontally, is due me likely accidentally speeding up too much to stay on target. I noticed that focusing on "undertracking" helped me keep my wrist/arm a bit calmer which helped with the wiggling a bit more.
• Will be using 35cm/360 on VAI now too instead of 30 given I am a bit too inconsistent with 30cm at times. Will also be using 45cm for the super small Pasu ones instead of 40. New general range being: 35-45cm

[glad comet]

Me patiently waiting for vorkot to get good and then steal all the tips and get the same twice as fast

(that's just copium I wanna play it)

[gray grotto]

My m'am you are 3 ranks higher than me

[glad comet]

Wym I'm basic in horizontal

What are you talking about

[gray grotto]

(grats btw 🙂 )

[glad comet]

YELLOW

🟡

[glad comet]

Ty Mr. Cyan rank

🧐

[gray grotto]

@dense tinsel what sens you use on PTS DoubleExtra Small TE and PTeS eeSmall TE.

Ball too small 🤏

[dense tinsel]

i dont remember

probably 45

[dense tinsel]

congrats

[gray grotto]

ty 🙂

[gray grotto]

goated sens

(Sorry if I am being obnoxious lol)

40cm

[glad comet]

40 is what I use for most of tracking so far

[gray grotto]

Yeah I think I am raising the value a tiny bet yet again to 35-45

That seems to work best so far given my own raw smoothness

[teal sierra]

@gray grotto can you link the season 3 sheet

[gray grotto]

I believe it is under pinned messages in #general

[teal sierra]

uh

got it

[upbeat scarab]

YOOOOO congrats on gm

I'm gonna be the last one here to get :(

vorkot gonna lap me at this rate

[glad comet]

there's still ksyyz

I mean don't compare yourself to vorkot

He's just better...

[upbeat scarab]

SURELY not already GM level

vorkot is actually the goat of this server

[glad comet]

I don't think they play much anyway?

Definitely not GM last time I checked AL sheet

[glad comet]

are u on kvk

[upbeat scarab]

al

well I play both

or do you mean rn

[glad comet]

I mean main benchmark one

[upbeat scarab]

yh AL

feels easier

well, more used to it

[dense tinsel]

i will definitely be last LOL

[glad comet]

you're only 8 ranks below it you can do it I believe in you

[dense tinsel]

im hopeless lol

s5 maybe

[glad comet]

you might have to wait for s6

whys ur pasu so bad

are u static player only or smth

[upbeat scarab]

na we can get ur pasu up

that shit is legit free

if you have other good scores it's legit just a knowledge gap

which is super fixable

[dense tinsel]

i used to be really well balanced

but after i got master i decided to go static and speedts only until i got nova in them

and since then its just been plateau upon plateau

[upbeat scarab]

you legit just don't play the others do you

[upbeat scarab]

probably BC you aren't playing tracking lol

like legit

[dense tinsel]

i dont play any other categories

ive done a 2-3 week smoothness arc which helped me a lot

and i tried the s3 scens for a few days

[upbeat scarab]

ok let's make a deal

[dense tinsel]

im like low jade in every other subcategory right now if i had to guess

[upbeat scarab]

I do static/speedts bootcamp

you do dynamic/reactive bootcamp

and we vod each other

ez GM for us both

[dense tinsel]

i dont think i will

😭

[upbeat scarab]

reactive most fun catagory I won't lie

[dense tinsel]

im saying i will get gm later than you because i dont care about it

[upbeat scarab]

fair

well maybe speedts is also fun but I like reactive more

[dense tinsel]

even if the other subcategories are super useful and tie into static/speedts

i really enjoy the stuff i play and wouldnt wanna give it up

i normally just do tsk bench and tracking when im burnt out just to top it up

[dense tinsel]

i was a smoothbot main until jade

its just that my static and speedts were the hardest to improve at so i played them the most

and by the time i got master in those the other subcategories were a lot easier and i coasted through

[upbeat scarab]

static really feels so hard to improve at

like I'm just not moving in terms of score it feels

[glad comet]

Do you just not grind benches at all

I'd figure if you play a lot of static you wouldn't be GM

[dense tinsel]

multiclick progression is way harder than 1w3t lol

and i dont paly it ive mostly just been doing scens i like and maxin them out

like 198 6 sphere and 1960 micro adjust 5 targets small

[glad comet]

isn't it just cluster farming gauntlet

I feel way more comfortable getting those over smol threeshot targets on AL

[dense tinsel]

yeaw but you need 177 kills on it

compared to 140

gm aint that hard but gm-nova is aids af

i could get 1700 on it if i grinded hard enough but i dont enjoy it that much

[glad comet]

u literally had vt multiclick 180 advanced name

please

wait so how long are you grinding static for now

[dense tinsel]

like 5 months

[glad comet]

so what am I about to kill 5 months just to get GM

[dense tinsel]

no lol the plateau is after gm

[glad comet]

Even better!

😭

[dense tinsel]

i got gmc s3 static and gm s4 static pretty fast

took me like 1-2 months

[glad comet]

u think if u cared about benches u'd get over it

cuz u just play whatever u want right

[dense tinsel]

hipfire nova, speedclicking arc and the speedts bench is what took up the time until now

yeah i would, i just dont see myself being happy with gm

so i figured i might aswell just try to max push whatever i enjoy so when i do end up wanting gm itd be easier with nova scores

but its a lot easier said than done for me

i get distracted by new things a lot

[glad comet]

ic

[dense tinsel]

i think if i genuinely grinded multiclick/skyts without being able to burn myself out

and be productive id be nova in both by now

but since i play for fun my improvement is limited since im not optimal

[glad comet]

So according to this nova will be the rank that will humble me

[dense tinsel]

up to you

[glad comet]

yea we'll see how it goes

[dense tinsel]

i wouldnt overthink it

everything is mental

[glad comet]

just building very rough expectations

[gray grotto]

Starts debating to continue aim training after this convo

[upbeat scarab]

you defo should

masters vorkot by December?

[gray grotto]

Only time will tell 😜

[glad comet]

More like april

[dense tinsel]

by august would be doable

[teal sierra]

gm to nova is actually fked

[dense tinsel]

yea ahaha

[teal sierra]

need everyone to add me on aimlab

"imthesolo"

[glad comet]

is it not just not being gmc that sucks

like it's easy to balance stuff up until master and push gm

but u push gm and instantly go for nova while being more or less good on only like couple tasks?

[compact sluice]

Shimmy let me make u a Bounceshot god

[crisp ferry]

i bet before december, vorkot's knowledge is alot above their rank

[gray grotto]

I still need to put it to practise though 🫠

[crisp ferry]

yeah but honestly i dont think it'll take you more than a month to get jade

im hella inconsistent and i got like 1 dot off my first jade score already, i for sureee think u got it

i think max by july u get master

[gray grotto]

It all comes down to how much time I will spent on it given I am still graduating and what not

[crisp ferry]

yeah thats pretty muich why im inconsistent too 😅

[glad comet]

@gray grotto IT'S NO TIME TO REST

HOP ON KOVAAKS

[gray grotto]

BUT

[glad comet]

CENTERING PB AIN'T GUNA BEAT ITSELF

[gray grotto]

guess no training today cause 75% of the playlist doesn't work

Okay NVM suddenly it does

[dense tinsel]

u can keep it

[glad comet]

step 1

save tsk as local

step 2

done

[gray grotto]

It is local

[glad comet]

so what is it not downloading all the tasks

[gray grotto]

it didn't register 75% of the playlist for some reason

[glad comet]

f

aimlabs better

[gray grotto]

I literally couldn't open them, but it now fixed it self magically

[dense tinsel]

how long until smoothness arc ends

[glad comet]

only about twenty smth days

[gray grotto]

Today is day 9 of 30

[dense tinsel]

damn

im working on a static bench atm

ive made like 9 scens today

[glad comet]

as aimlabs would say

architect

[gray grotto]

Gotta love them dips

[dense tinsel]

good job...

[gray grotto]

Only took like 15+ tries 😂

[upbeat scarab]

wait I don't have vorkot added??? that's fucked up

when I get home I'll post my friend code

[gray grotto]

Re-watched Matty's video on Scucchi to refresh some stuff

leggo

Almost instant aimbot cause of it

TFW I have been doing horizontal smoothness for 1:15 hours

Meanwhile "always right" isnt improving lol

Last highscore is so old now that I thought I hit a PB... nope

Boom

kek

[gray grotto]

HOPPPAAAA

[dense tinsel]

wtf ahahahah

(chill?)

[upbeat scarab]

actually insane mental fortitude

[gray grotto]

@dense tinsel Another one but 7 short of inter

[dense tinsel]

noo the edge

[dense tinsel]

not really LOL

i have a 2 hour session timer on one of my pre advanced scores

[upbeat scarab]

na but wrist smoothness

I think I had 3 hours on lddh when I pb'd

did have to take a few days break for my wrist after that tho

[dense tinsel]

back off

[teal sierra]

i have a gamer injury

no train today

[teal sierra]

get jade

[gray grotto]

tryin'

My cat is trying to PB too

[teal sierra]

bro's tracking

[dense tinsel]

somebody stoip this guy 😭 hes gonna gap us all

[gray grotto]

It is gonna be so painful to see all those scores dip tomorrow/the day after...

[dense tinsel]

DONT THINK ABOUT TOMORROW

today is ur day

[gray grotto]

arg I keep losing focus mid-run so I cannot get VAI 15 to intermediate too

[gray grotto]

Smoothness grind (Day 9/30)
(Link to day 8: #1196131037172990002 message)

Link to next day: #1196131037172990002 message

Benchmarks before day 9:

Just gonna put the current benches here cause it is faster.

Made big leaps today 🔥

[dense tinsel]

jesus LMAO so many new pinks

[gray grotto]

Arm dead

HOLY SHIT I JUST HIT MY FIRST JADE SCORE

[dense tinsel]

OMG

OMG

OMG

AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA WHAT THE FUCK

LETS FUCKING GO

[compact sluice]

shimym has informed me

you go jade score

LETS GO

[gray grotto]

Meanwhile PreciseOrb still ass

at least higher averages though

[dry zealot]

Improving so fast

[gray grotto]

There we go. Small push

[upbeat scarab]

LETS FUCKING GOOOOOII

[void kestrel]

2k is coming

[gray grotto]

Not today 😦

[past slate]

Skip over that scenario 🥲

[gray grotto]

gladly....

[glad comet]

[gray grotto]

jade

smoothbot

😄

[glad comet]

I don't speak kovaaks though 😔

[gray grotto]

[glad comet]

On your way to everyone's dream rank

😎

[gray grotto]

Pain

[glad comet]

wym pain...

[gray grotto]

PreciseOrb

is pain

[glad comet]

Good thing I'm on AL

Pain is having headache after a long while

I'm legitimately scared I might get sick again

If that happens I might as well forfeit my life

[teal sierra]

W

[compact sluice]

Play Preciseorb last I’m ngl

It’s what I did

[gray grotto]

Girlfriend's birthday today 🎁 likely no training unless the guests leave early.

[crisp ferry]

told u you were him

i hit my first jade in the same day too lol, race you to jade 💀 (im mentally 3)

static is super easy, it was funny getting 1w5ts jade and didnt take long

[gray grotto]

I will be playing TSK smoothness for 21 more days so I think you will beat me😂

[crisp ferry]

oh dont worry it looks like ill be joining 💀 for a skypad user im like COOKED at tracking sometimes

[gray grotto]

Can find my journey here so far: #1196131037172990002 message

[crisp ferry]

What benches are those and where can i find em

[gray grotto]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19ByfhuCiLdUkDI5n5JSSl41fWC3ZMqfkq9oddKu5BTg/edit#gid=1862140320

[crisp ferry]

thanksss

[gray grotto]

You can use the "benchmark" or "extra" tab for training

[glad comet]

Happy birthday to your baby

[crisp ferry]

okii thanks

[gray grotto]

Thank you 💍

[dense tinsel]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YSN7J2-kBgjS_uqqbKNB1ESX-L9HzXRXQX05xApxgug/edit?usp=sharing

[gray grotto]

Thanks

[teal sierra]

@glad comet ur turn

[glad comet]

It's never happening

[gray grotto]

Work got me all tired 😴 no training today either.

What y'all having for dinner.

Gonna make me some pizza

[void kestrel]

steak and avokado

[gray grotto]

Quite an exquisite taste 🧑‍🍳

[rain hare]

easter leftovers

ham and mashed potatos are calling my name

[upbeat scarab]

I'm going to get shwarma

[gray grotto]

Both of you now make me regret I didn't get either ham nor shwarma 😅

[rain hare]

maybe next time 🫂

[teal sierra]

can i get a voice reveal @gray grotto

[past slate]

@gray grotto Don’t do it, he’s gonna use Ai so your voice can praise him when he’s using good form 😰

[paper birch]

Woah u got Jade already? @gray grotto

Race to masters? 👀

[teal sierra]

YEP

[paper birch]

Am racing @teal sierra now too 👀

[teal sierra]

jade>GM

the EU frogs are not ready to be jade

[gray grotto]

You dont want that lmao

[gray grotto]

Oah shit you too ? 👀

[dry zealot]

[paper birch]

Me Jade complete now

[gray grotto]

The most monotone voice you ever heard praising your ass

[past slate]

🤩

[teal sierra]

whyyyyyyyy

[brazen sinew]

Yo good job I am proud of you stern ass voice

[dry zealot]

🤖 “nicely done earthling “

[gray grotto]

Okay uhhhh

Everything was steadily dipping and suddenly this

[glad comet]

BEATING SHIMMY SOON

I played horizontal every now and then after vdim and im pretty sure I surpassed shimmy's score in a couple by now

It's not as hard as I expected it to be

[gray grotto]

At was a one-time thing for today lol cause everything else has hardcore-tanked in terms of averages

And I mean really hard

Gotta get back to the top

[glad comet]

bad day

wait how much reps a day do u do

[gray grotto]

I have 3 set in the playlist but I do like 5 most of the time on average

[gray grotto]

Smoothness grind (Day 10/30)
(Link to day 9: #1196131037172990002 message)

Link to next day: #1196131037172990002 message

Benchmarks before day 10:

Hit 1 very unexpected PB but furthermore all my averages dipped hard 📉

Back to climbing the mountain again

[upbeat scarab]

yoooo almost 1k higher????

that's crazy

[gray grotto]

No clue what happened it just went ZOOM but only once

[glad comet]

According to my calculations I am getting suave celestial very soon 🧐

going up on horizontal benches, almost intermediate complete across all 5 categories

[teal sierra]

how can i do this also

[glad comet]

You don't have tsk benches?

[teal sierra]

i do not

[glad comet]

@teal sierra

[teal sierra]

okie

thx

[dense tinsel]

i played it for an hour

try and gap me now 💪🏾

[glad comet]

What's up with 90

[dense tinsel]

boring

[glad comet]

Centering hater...

[dense tinsel]

im advanced in 180?

why play the worse version

[glad comet]

Excuses...

[gray grotto]

Uuuuuuhhhhhhhhhh.

Have mercy on my soul my scores already tanked

[dry zealot]

Im getting gapped and slapped everyday

[glad comet]

shimmy thought he was safe 🗣️

[dense tinsel]

I AM

[glad comet]

I beat A WHOLE 1 PB OF YOURS

(yes it's 90)

[dense tinsel]

IM SAFE AS HELL

[glad comet]

NO YOU'RE NOT

[dense tinsel]

I GOT 5 ADVANCED SCORES YESTERDAY IM IN THE CLEAR

[glad comet]

you don't touch skypad with ur fingers when u aim right

[dense tinsel]

i started like

brushing my thumb on the pad a little bit yesterday it helped a lot with stability

[glad comet]

I thought it was not recommended ig it's fine?

[gray grotto]

Damn so we start cheating now huh?

[glad comet]

NAH

NAHHHHH

ALL OF THAT JUST TO BEAT VT DIAMOND IN CENTERING

...

[dense tinsel]

hey

HEY

game is game

[gray grotto]

fair

[glad comet]

as matty said

score is a score...

[dense tinsel]

you can keep your 25cm centering ass over there

[glad comet]

cheesing doesn't exist

[dense tinsel]

but I PLAY TO WIN

I PLAY HIPFIRE I DONT NEED SMOOTHNESS

🗣️

[glad comet]

Im legit guna play

like 80cm on 90 centering

I think it's meant to be

[dense tinsel]

no complaints here

[glad comet]

I mean it won't like boost ur score anw

[dense tinsel]

thats not even cheesing

[glad comet]

Just more speed required

Which I wanna work on

[dense tinsel]

cos its so high youll end up training arm smoothness anyways

[glad comet]

40cm centering is like snail going left and right

[gray grotto]

Meanwhile I am with 45cm on PTeS eeSmall TE and I still cant hit the fucker consistently cause it is so small

[glad comet]

I just do everything at 40

lemme check my eesmall

[gray grotto]

I lied

[glad comet]

Im on 40cm and intermediate at it

you can do it

pasu is fucking easy though

Aimlabs VDIMs has angletrack (pasu track) all over the playlists

[dense tinsel]

yeah the pasu scens are free lol

you do know that they all have the same path right @gray grotto

[glad comet]

IT'S IN THE DYNAMIC THEN IT'S IN THE PRECISE THEN IT'S IN THE EVASIVE THEN IT'S IN THE EVERYTHING

[dense tinsel]

once you do one run of pasu extrasmooth

its the same run everytime whether it strafes instantly or doesnt

[glad comet]

Sometimes it goes bottom right

and I found its path to be easier

[dense tinsel]

its just pattern learning

theres no real difficulty after that

[gray grotto]

I keep having issues with reading when it bounces off the floor. Somehow my brain just fails to do that

And I hate it when it rides vertically up the wall

[glad comet]

real

[dense tinsel]

ok so

if it slides down the wall from around the middle part and upwards itll always bounce outwards in the corner

if it slides down the wall below the middle part then itll always go straight back up

[gray grotto]

I see

[glad comet]

It's still so weird cuz like

they made it so it bounces off if it's on the end of its movement

like make it consistent 😭

[dense tinsel]

just maximise acc when its going side to side

even if you get shit acc when its riding the wall you only need like 40% anyways

[glad comet]

nice run still looks ugly though

[dense tinsel]

like you can clearly see im dog shit on the walls

[glad comet]

Its path is literally the same each time

[dense tinsel]

but it doesnt matter because the reqs are so low

yea

[glad comet]

like u can memorize when it slides up or down anyway

on both when it goes left or right

[dense tinsel]

if you just focus on it when its not bouncing or sliding u can still get crazy scores

[gray grotto]

What theme is that. Could use a different tracking theme. The current one I have is not cutting it for me

[dense tinsel]

i dont remember it was a random dokkie one

[glad comet]

That's scen's theme

pretty sure

Which you didn't override

[gray grotto]

lets see

[dense tinsel]

thats just clover alternate

[gray grotto]

This is without the override

[dense tinsel]

yea lol

[glad comet]

same thing

[gray grotto]

Mind sharing it? If that is possible. It looks clean.

[glad comet]

I put the very first theme I found

which is like

that guy's

[dense tinsel]

when im back on ill try and find it

[glad comet]

that smooth guy

[gray grotto]

Thanks

[glad comet]

I can't spell his name

[dense tinsel]

i just have no idea which one it is cos i used it for just that run

[glad comet]

sch

oo

[gray grotto]

Scucchi?

[glad comet]

ki

yes

[dense tinsel]

nt

[glad comet]

[gray grotto]

s-cookie

[glad comet]

SCHE-

[gray grotto]

Smoothness grind (Day 11/30)
(Link to day 10: #1196131037172990002 message)

Link to next day: #1196131037172990002 message

Benchmarks before day 11:

Pushed some PBs here and there and averages stabilized a little bit. Going well again 👍

[glad comet]

why dont u do vertical and other tasks

😭

[gray grotto]

I will do vertical eventually. Maybe in the last 10 days. VAI was my worst when starting out and it also indirectly helps me a bit with vertical anyway

Imagine being smooth though

Like genuinly... imagine, because you won't find it here.

[warped shell]

You use a higher sens when training your smoothness right? But when you switch to your lower sens do you actually notice improvement in it?

[gray grotto]

I use 35-45cm on the TSK scenarios depending on the size of the bots and most are relatively small, but yes if you play on something faster first and then go slower you give yourself a bit of a "buff"

And in general if your smoothness gets better on faster senses then so it will on something slower of course in general. It is universal.

[warped shell]

Understood. I just started doing 26cm on training playlists today rather than my usual 35cm. Would you mind if I showed you my TSK scores?

[gray grotto]

Sure

[upbeat scarab]

i lost my aim progress post :(

can't find it

nvm i'm stupid

[glad comet]

LMAO

[gray grotto]

Replying/pinging as a reminder for once you get on Kovaaks 🙂

[glad comet]

I'll hop on for him dw

[teal sierra]

im not improving guys

i should try drugs

[past slate]

True

Start micro dosing mushrooms to expand your brain’s pathways

[compact sluice]

macro dosing

[upbeat scarab]

i mean you joke but

psycadelics go crazy for neuroplasticity

[compact sluice]

i need them to solve my trauma

surely

[past slate]

I was joking but I actually would if I could

[dense tinsel]

?

[past slate]

It’s not haram
It is medicinal

Real talk mushrooms go crazy
We are just in the early stages of discovering the uses

[gray grotto]

Medicinal haram

[gray grotto]

Shimmmyyyyy mind giving me that theme please

[dense tinsel]

whoops i forgot

[gray grotto]

Thanks as always

[gray grotto]

Sorry 1 more thing, what are the values of your walls and floors and such? Yours look much darker than mine

[dense tinsel]

i was on 1.6 gamma and post processing on

i went back to 2.2 last night

[gray grotto]

Ah okay. Guess gotta do some tweaking then

[gray grotto]

Before and after

I like it

The post processing looks even nicer but it brings my FPS down from 900 to 600 😂

[dense tinsel]

yea it makes everything look way better

and i dont feel a frame diff even if it goes down by 200

[gray grotto]

No training today.

[glad comet]

...

[teal sierra]

wtf

getting kovaaks gm ig

[past slate]

Wtflip??!?

What specs 🤩

I get max 240

[gray grotto]

5600 & 6600xt

[past slate]

Damnn

[teal sierra]

amd gpu L

[past slate]

I think my cpu bottlenecks hard
Gtx 1660 super
i7 4770 😪

I wanna get #1,3, or 4

[compact sluice]

@gray grotto I have an idea for you

You're grinding TSK yes?

why not try

half your cm

then

normal cm

then

double cm

to try and focus every area

[gray grotto]

Are you talking about like every scenario or just change it up depending on the day?

[compact sluice]

every

time.

[glad comet]

Anima trying to sabotage vorkot so he doesn't get nova faster 🔥

(joking)

[compact sluice]

NO

ITS LEGIT

[gray grotto]

70cm = half

35cm = normal

17ish cm = double

Those Pasutrack orbs ain't knowing what will hit them

[compact sluice]

fuck yeah

[crisp ferry]

Idk if im doing some sort of forbidden tech but using 70cm was actually so free

pbed a jade score first try

[gray grotto]

I mean 70cm is super slow so you are cheesing smoothness that way 😂

[crisp ferry]

I cant lie with how easy it was i felt like i had found some sort of loophole 💀 ill get an even higher score with like 40 cm again then. I dont like cheesing

Idk if im dumb or what but using like even 45cm i do this weird thing where my crosshair is either a tiny bit infront or behind the bit most of the time

So i think im on it but im actually just right infront or behind it and dont score till i readjust. Could just be practice tho.

[gray grotto]

Could be targeting reading and/or you just needing to practise more generally to work on your speedmatching

[crisp ferry]

Im like 90% sure its speedmatching. Might do the TSK benches u sent today for fun if i dont do reactive.

[gray grotto]

Lack of speedmatching could also be due to shotty target reading. I noticed that If I am very focused on the target (like 100% full focused on it) I tend to automatically speedmatch better.

[crisp ferry]

Yeah igy, ill try that and focus on natching speed.

[glad comet]

70cm on smth like fast centering 90 is fine since you're just practicing faster smoothness which is something you don't do at 40cm

[gray grotto]

You think so?