health

[tropic fern]

My wrist feels slow and kinda of unresponsive when I'm trying to to do a very fast flick, would strengthening it be the plan. I've rested it for a while and have felt no change

[spice berry]

I tried it and that's actually genius

[violet swan]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DP2zIr9Vd3_TX2cuPu83iyf480Q8g5w8-GQrxwMwQ8Y/edit?usp=sharing

[spice berry]

lies

[flat venture]

ppl just have like 1 or 2 white hairs

haev you never seen ppl with it before

lol

yeah ive seen a few ppl

with it on the cheek

I have one on my moustache

[ripe tree]

any reason why my arm starts hurting when i move my mouse

[violet swan]

@ripe tree do you put your elbow on the desk ?

[ripe tree]

no

[violet swan]

where do you have pain ?

[chilly flare]

do you guys tilt your monitor?

[covert sphinx]

mine is tilted up slightly

like 2 degrees

[chilly flare]

gotcha

[terse venture]

Guys how do i know if i have ADHD?

[tawdry ice]

you get evaluated and diagnosed

so many people self diagnose themselves who dont rly have adhd

[terse venture]

true, but unfortunally i cant afford a doctor :c

but thx anyways ❤️

[ripe tree]

it makes ur arm thicc and thicc means stronger so u can aim better

[violet swan]

I can back that.

[coral geyser]

I truly think i have carpal tunnel

I dont know what to do

Its been 4 months

Should i goto a doctor?

Or would they not take it serious

Please @ me

[ripe tree]

@coral geyser if you think you have carpal tunnel you should probably go to a doctor to get it diagnosed

[coral geyser]

Thank you, I will. Do you have any idea of what he will prescribe?

Like a cast or something

[ripe tree]

he might make you do stretching exercises

im not sure about anything else

it depends how severe it is

[coral geyser]

its not too bad, just like a tension in it

can certainly tell the difference between my right and left

[ripe tree]

it gets worse with time so if u have to money and time to see a doctor you probably should

[coral geyser]

my left is so flexible, the other can reach but have to flex

Shit baby i love me the nhs

[ripe tree]

yea

[coral geyser]

Thanks for your help

[ripe tree]

no problem if you need anything else let me know

[vast fractal]

Melatonin is not gonna help me if I'm just laying in beed thinking about stuff right?

I'm not sure if I think about stuff cause I'm worried or if it's cause I don't wanna wake up for work, or if I haven't gone into sleep state cause I'm not tiree

But I have been considered trying melatonin

There are no big downsides right? I heard it's pretty natural.

[violet swan]

@vast fractal Melatonin is a hormone who stimulate you sleep state

at the beginning, it's normal to thinking, the more you're train to sleep the easier you will fall in sleep state.

it's like snap

[vast fractal]

Thanks, I have been considering trying it, but it's not something you get addicted to is it?

Like I go on vacation and forgrt them, suddenly I can't sleep at all 😂

[violet swan]

you'll be not addicted normally, I'm not a doctor so I can say something on that.

I know that some people take is on a short period of time and their sleep comeback naturally and after that they don't needed

[thorny dew]

if you are unsure about medication, ask your doctor @vast fractal

(probably)

[vast fractal]

I'm more a try and die kinds guy, than ask my doctor

I will try it tonight, this is pretty safe tho.

[thorny dew]

@vast fractal I mean I wouldnt take medication without asking

[vast fractal]

I'm a certified labrat.

[thorny dew]

not a good idea 🙂 just ask

[vast fractal]

Tonight I'll probably just instantly fall a sleep, fucking zombied

Or that's what I always think, then the night comes and I can't sleep. Or only a few hours and I wake up.

[thorny dew]

@vast fractal just get though this night and ask tomorrow, also if you cant sleep, did you try turning of devices and dimming lights an hour before bed?

[vast fractal]

Nah, I spend too much time on tech before I sleep.

[thorny dew]

try that than, no need for medication

[ivory sky]

Is Lumbar support necessary for a office chair

I bought the WorkPro Quantum 9000 and im jjust tryin gto make sure i made a good choice

or lumbar correction i should say

[smoky rampart]

what to do if have eye strain

[fallow sand]

take a break

you can also stretch your eyes im pretty sure

[meager ore]

wait not a cowlick

im retarded

hair whorl

I always thought the earliest sign was sudden loose hair

[meager ore]

probably look out for that then

[deft jackal]

I can't find a good chair height for my desk, i watched vids on utube but it didnt really help. I keep lowering and raising my chair :/

[tardy rose]

Do whatever's comfortable. If it is impossible to be comfortable maybe it's more of a problem with your general ergonomic situation

Unless you really do have a sky high desk and very low chair but usually it's good enough

[prisma cradle]

No

Maybe just try to have ur hair set up in a way that keeps ur precious skin untouched by laserbeams out of peoples eyes

[sonic spruce]

Is it normal for scenarios that are 6-10 min per run makes me sleepy? It is very annoying when that happens (I sleep good)

scens like Air UFO 10x Hard

[thorny dew]

@sonic spruce sleepy, or tired eyes only?

also, air ufo 10x hard is weird

[sonic spruce]

@thorny dew makes me sleep

[thorny dew]

hmm idk, sorry

[sonic spruce]

it's weird because I don't feel tired

[thorny dew]

?

[sonic spruce]

I mean, that scen is hard but I don't feel tired for that, so I dont know why is that

[thorny dew]

hmm idk, maybe blinking?

[sonic spruce]

probably

weird situation

[thorny dew]

[tulip socket]

Just a random question to any health expert: they say that fasting helps improve mental performance and long term memory. Would training be best done before a meal while you're still experiencing hunger pains or right after you've eaten? I'm trying to start intermittent fasting.

[pearl dome]

Wtf

Fasting improve mental performance??

Hmm

Kinda interesting that many eastern cultures have incorporated some sort of fasting

[lavish surge]

can someone recommend a good ergonomic chair for max 400€

[placid wolf]

is the myochair good as an ergonomic chair?

and does Autonomous ship to Italy?

[pulsar niche]

where are you from?

[lavish surge]

germany

[mild delta]

how often should I stretch out my wrist?

[sharp cargo]

Imo, do it after you have ate

So you're not distracted by the hunger

And you can focus on the task at hand

[violet swan]

For the longest time I thought sore muscles was from lactic acid building up but apparently it’s not

[uncut cradle]

will i be fine with 4 hours of sleep? i woke up early for some test but now it got postponed :/

[violet swan]

No

But I’m pulling an all-nighter

So just have some coffee

:D

[ivory sky]

It would make sense. If you are moving your arm continuously and hard focusing on a task for that long with no periodic breaks, you will experience fatigue

[sharp cargo]

kovaaks makes my wrist hurt. tips?

[lusty bluff]

🤦‍♂️

Don't aim with ur wrist

warm up first

stretch

rest

[sharp cargo]

what

[lusty bluff]

Kovaaks isn't making your wrist hurt. Overuse is.

[sharp cargo]

kovaaks is making my wrist hurt

didnt experience this type of pain before doing kovaaks

[lusty bluff]

I subscribe to the belief macro movements should be done with your arm, micro with wrist. Idk man, fundamentally kovaaks isn't the issue

lol

It is a video game.

Stretch your muscles, ligaments and tendons brah. Take time away from keyboard n mouse

Eat good food and drink plenty of water 🙂

[sharp cargo]

i train on a higher sens and big movements with my arm would feel very awkward

[pulsar niche]

30 mins of kovaaks is more stress on your hand/wrist than like 5x that amount of time ingame

no game has constant aiming like kovaaks

theres rounds or other forms of downtime where your hand gets to rest

[pulsar niche]

if you feel pain i urge you to stop, i didn't and i had burning pain in my wrist/arm for 2 weeks

visited a physio and luckily it seems like it wont be chronic

i was like nah this mild soreness is nothing ill keep going

once the big pain hits you realize you screwed

[sharp cargo]

what would you recommend doing then to avoid this ?

[pulsar niche]

stop being a primarily wrist aimer with high sens, you need to do some physical/strengthening exercises for your wrist/arms

visiting a physio wouldnt hurt

just doing some stretches wont cut it long term

[sharp cargo]

seems very extreme to change my entire aiming style because of a mild pain in my arm

i dont think i ever got this before starting kovaaks yesterday

should i just take more breaks when training

[pulsar niche]

adapting to a new aiming style isnt even that bad

[sharp cargo]

my main sens is 43.54cm/360 i use both wrist and arm

wrist for microadjustments and arm for bigger movements like turning flashes etc like the other guy said

i dont really think this is the problem

[pulsar niche]

do you exercise?

[sharp cargo]

not that much

mostly sedentary

[pulsar niche]

well if you want your gaming career to last then it would be the time to turn it around

pins has some useful stuff

[sharp cargo]

i'll check it out, thanks

[lusty bluff]

Longevity-wise, wrist aiming is poor.

Your hand is hella intricate and requires a lot of management - this is why carpal tunnel issues are rampant in gamers/office workers

ty kiku for backup ❤️

[sharp cargo]

i think its the higher sens in kovaaks thats fckin me up, i have to strain my wrist to hit shots precisely

[lusty bluff]

why not use your normal sens?

[pulsar niche]

i was a primary wrist aimer for 8 years and i became an arm aimer in 3 days

i rarely use my wrist, only for micro now

[sharp cargo]

it is better for improving your mouse control

[pulsar niche]

feels way better for my arm/wrist in general

[sharp cargo]

i use my wrist mainly for micro as well

[lusty bluff]

Ye right, never heard that lol

If anything I'd think it would inhibit your muscle memory

and hinder the natural physics of how you aim

[pulsar niche]

but if you can afford it then i would suggest going to a physio, even a pinched nerve in your neck can shoot out pain to your arm/wrist

[lusty bluff]

f=ma etc

[pulsar niche]

better to get it checked out early

to avoid problems in the future

[sharp cargo]

i really, really doubt its that serious

just a mild little stingy feeling in my wrist every once in a while

[pulsar niche]

yeah stingy pain is not a good sign

if it gets any worse stop, i beg you lol

[lusty bluff]

should be able to see a little "hole" on my wrist

if it's there or close no matter what kind of pain, bad ju ju

[pulsar niche]

you didnt experience this pain during regular gaming right?

just kovaaks?

[sharp cargo]

yep only kovaaks

[pulsar niche]

yeah kovaaks is way more concentrated in terms of aim effort

its way more stress than regular games because like i said theres downtime in those

but in kovaaks you just load next scenario and keep going until your wrist cries

i didnt have issues prior kovaaks either so it must be an overuse thingy

tendons/ligaments not used to that kind of stress

[sharp cargo]

aight, i'll try to take it a bit easy for a while

do more stretches and take more breaks

[pulsar niche]

yeah do so, i think few months back one guy on this discord had to quit gaming completely and change his job since his wrist injury became chronic

[lusty bluff]

unironically pushups help wrist strength

[pulsar niche]

if scaring you works thats fine for me lol i dont want you to injury yourself further

[lusty bluff]

thats so sad wtf

[violet swan]

Go do calisthenics, wrist strength will go up

[pulsar niche]

thats bad advice

[lusty bluff]

big jump to go from sedentary to calisthenics lool

[pulsar niche]

calisthenics is like the most wrist intensive exercise possible

[lusty bluff]

ye

0 - 100 lul

ack the sentiment but

[pulsar niche]

also you cant really increase load by small incriments with calisthenics

its one variation of exercise to a way harder one

thats why people injure themselves so easily

[violet swan]

I got better at gaming thanks to being fit

[lusty bluff]

calisthenics =/= being fit lol

[pulsar niche]

you look pretty fit

[lusty bluff]

You can be fit by doing crossfit, running, general gym, etc.

[violet swan]

I check my diet aswell

[violet swan]

Well i wasnt just two months ago

Now i play like 1/10 of my playtime back then

And my scores have increased

[pulsar niche]

glad to hear you turned it around

i feel like a lot of people in this discord would benefit from turning it around like that

[lusty bluff]

physical fitness correlates with mental fitness. Blood flow works wonders 💪

[pulsar niche]

and they would progress faster in kovaaks too

[lusty bluff]

SF units have pretty fun papers on such matters

[violet swan]

Ur joints get used to calisthenics in about a month or 1-2 just dynamic stretch and stretch static afterwards

[pulsar niche]

following bodyweightfitness rr?

or something else

i should get back to that.. been a bit lazy recently

[violet swan]

Following a routine to prepare for mma atm

Tryna get lean before the clubs open again here

I can send u my ppl split if u want?

[placid wolf]

😳

[pulsar niche]

its fine, what do you do for legs?

[violet swan]

I got a pair of dumbells mostly lunges, squats jump squats

[pulsar niche]

hard to increase load on legs without weight

one leg squats lul

[violet swan]

Yeah very annoying to train with strictly bodyweigj

Bodyweight

Luckily enough my legs have quite good genes

[lusty bluff]

do pistol squats if you want to increase load

if you're into calisthenics have you investigated weight vests? They slap

can run with them too assuming you're allowed to run wherever you live

[violet swan]

Yeah weight vests are good

But i still weigh too much for my length so bodyweight progress is more then fine atl

Atm*

When i can do 4x15 pullups and chinups

I will get one tho

But atm it’s plenty to just have bodyweight

[lusty bluff]

rog

[keen violet]

Bro my neck muscles are hurting so much. It was first time in my entire life while I was playing game. Any suggestions?

[pulsar niche]

do you exercise/stretch?

we cant give u a diagnosis lol, rest/stretch and preferably go to a physio

[keen violet]

@pulsar niche ya probably I should

[keen violet]

Not everyday

[lusty bluff]

bowties are good

https://www.rogueaustralia.com.au/donnie-thompson-formal-bow-tie-au?287=478&gclid=Cj0KCQjw4cOEBhDMARIsAA3XDRi9jn87MXi0BObR3ei_Jt3hFlq0cl_v-lHs4R4B5ZhTOFAhrf1PzDYaAmvREALw_wcB

[silent osprey]

i kind of question what sort of value stuff like this has

like bad posture is muscular imbalance (to some degree), and this doesnt really do much to fix it

seems like to me itd be way smarter to improve ergonomics and do training to correct imbalances

[odd quiver]

it fixes some of the symptoms if you're too lazy to fix the problem ig

[ivory sky]

same shit dude

[keen violet]

I started full body workout today

[ivory sky]

i got a new chaior

[keen violet]

You think chair was problem?

[ivory sky]

maybe its because im practicing my posture

and im not used to it

[keen violet]

Hmm

My posture is fine actually I am weak

[pulsar niche]

might aswell put yourself into an exoskeleton and a feeding tube if you go that far to fix your posture

[violet swan]

I found a deal for a $250 steelcase leap v2 only in red (used)

get it?

[gaunt dust]

@keen violet I only get neck pain if I'm in a nerd neck posture or looking down for too long

[keen violet]

Actually I am looking down my monitor height was low it can't be adjusted. But yesterday I placed a block under the stand now it seems to be fine.

[grizzled salmon]

Check the seller’s profile and ensure that they are reliable (assuming you are getting it from eBay?) Also, $250 is a really good deal for the Steelcase Leap v2, I’d be weary.

[tepid coral]

If i 'roll' my (right hand only) hand around my wrist, it makes a click sound. No pain or anything. Should i be worried?

[silent osprey]

no

[violet swan]

while doing the wrist stretch guide thing I hear my wrists crack a lot,is this normal or?

[thorny dew]

So, im not a medical professional, but I think that cracking in the wrist is (nitrogen?) bubbles popping and coming back and that it isnt bad

wait for an answer for someone that has more knowledge than me tho

[pulsar niche]

why not if its in a good condition? those chairs usually last quite well

[wide ember]

Anyone know why I have so little energy?

It’s 8 am and I wanna go to bed

I wake up at 5 and go to bed at 8 pm

[violet swan]

have you tried sleeping less

[wide ember]

I’m even more tired

When I do that

[violet swan]

it's from craigslist and i'll see it and have a chance to sit in it before I buy it

i think prices are generally lower on craigslist as well

since less people will see it

[pulsar niche]

whats your diet like? do you exercise? when was the last time you got bloodwork done on important things like iron, vitamin d, b12, etc?

[violet swan]

Okay I'm going to go check out these chairs in a bit

the leaps

[river bobcat]

Half the time im looking at the game it is really clear and the other half it just seems really blurry. Any ideas on why or tips to help would be very much appreciated 🙂

[thorny dew]

tired eyes maybe?

[deft radish]

my wrist shakes whenever moving it side to side no matter the movement I cant flick with my wrist or track with it I can only use my arm. I have no clue what it is.

[mortal kernel]

hey, i've started getting wrist pains, any tips to recover quickly and well, and also tips for prevention?

besides stretches, ik about those and will be implementing them :)

[odd prism]

ive heard of a lot of people having good results from sleeping with a wrist brace to prevent sleeping with your wrists bent

[graceful pine]

It also made my wrist worse because it wasn't really relaxing and healing, either.

[violet swan]

go to a professional

[odd prism]

^

[mortal kernel]

alright thank you!

[pearl dome]

Is it bad to sit criss cross apple sauce on my chair while aiming

[violet swan]

for now rest though

[spice berry]

[pearl dome]

Crisscross applesauce

Is like

Is the preschool term for crosslegged

[wide ember]

I eat whatever my mom cooks and it’s usually pretty healthy, I excercise like an hour a day I’ll usually run or play tennis or something

I don’t know what the bloodwork is supposed to mean

I usually eat 1 or 2 really big meals every day instead of 3 small ones

Don’t know if that’s the problem

[wide ember]

https://youtu.be/hRDtU1PQ8Eg

[compact salmon]

shii this channel is actually helpful thanks@!

[pulsar niche]

what i meant is you could have nutritional deficiencies that cause fatigue/tiredness

and if you dont get blood tests to address common causes its going to be all guess work

[wide ember]

Idk I don’t feel like doing that

I feel fine now anyway

Guess it was a bad few days

[thorny dew]

Can someone give me a quick overview of the things you need to do to keep you and your body healthy?

especially gaming wise, so no diet etc

[violet swan]

i bought the chair but its too low so im gonna have to buy some big wheels i think

but im in my old chair now and it suckss

[wide ember]

I’m not a professional but blue light glasses, exercise taking a break every hour or so and getting enough sleep have helped me a lot

[thorny dew]

ty my eye doctor told me that my normal glasses already filter enough for some reason but the breaks I should probably do

[wide ember]

And eating too much sugar is not good but I think that’s obvious

Also drink like lots of water while gaming it’s not really a health thing I just play better

[violet swan]

update: put some duct tape on the gas cylinder to make it thicker and not slide down so far and it worked awesome

now my arms are at 90 degree angle to my desk

[violet chasm]

@thorny dew getting a big ass water jug helped me feel way better/drink way more just passively bc usually i just passively drink if i have water near me, trying to stand up and walk around for a few minutes every 1-2 hours if possible, and also trying to avoid looking at screens for an hour or so before going to bed+after waking up has helped tremendously for me with both health and sleep

also just general exercise/stretching

[sudden granite]

Getting water from your food really keeps the hydration up

I eat a lot of vegetables, soup, and green smoothies so I don't feel the need to drink water as often

[rugged stirrup]

my sleep schedule has been abysmal for the past week or so and i dont know what to do

been sleeping in bursts of 4-5 hours just randomly throughout the week with no semblance of pattern

there are days where i sleep twice and some where i dont sleep at all

anyone got tips?

[wicked mesa]

probably not healthy but what I did to fix my schedule is, try go to sleep normally wake up at whatever time you want to wake up at then just firm being tired for the day and usually it works

[pulsar niche]

use f lux if you cant avoid using a pc at night, incorporate something physical to your daily routines

[surreal orbit]

A couple things that should help:

1. F.lux is a great option if you have to use your PC at night, but if possible, you want to put screens down 60 minutes before you're going to bed.
2. Create a bedtime and a morning routine for yourself. It doesn't have to be big or dramatic, just something that tells your body "ok, we're about to do the sleep thing now" or "ok, time to be awake.
3. Make use of external cues like light (e.g. get light first thing in the morning, either sunlight or an artificial sun lamp) and mealtimes (try to make them regular)
4. Get some amount of exercise, even just a 10 minute walk, throughout the day. This should be at least 3-4 hours before bedtime.

Also tagging resident sleep expert @supple flume for some even better tips when he's around!

There's quite a few reasons your sleep can be disrupted, and some of them are medical or mental health conditions. Starting with controlling the things you can control helps you figure out "is this happening because of choices I'm making, or is this something I need to see a doctor about?"

[static cliff]

should I be concerned if I my neck popped in the morning and now its stiff and I cant move it very well

and it hurts to turn it

to the side that popped

[rugged stirrup]

thanks for the tip

s

i think the most difficult one for me to implement and get used to would probably be the screentime before bed

idk why but i feel like my brain always needs to be stimulated by something in the moment and quarantine has basically made me resort to using screens/music/videos to always keep myself entertained or watching something no matter what im doing

[smoky rampart]

during runs i keep clicking mouse2 with my middle finger unintentionally, it can be really off putting how do i go about stopping this lol

[covert sphinx]

i also do this i just changed the ads bind to something on my keyboard

never happens to me in game

[smoky rampart]

yeah i changed the ads to something on the keyboard but it still destabilizes my mouse control

[violet swan]

Needing some tips on something, no matter how many hours I sleep, I always seem to be sleepy or tired, and some days it feels like fatigue, I usually sleep around 8-9 hours a night so I have no idea, I drink like two bottles of water a day but that’s it

[odd quiver]

It might be to do with how you're eating/how active you are throughout the day

[violet swan]

yeah since the quarantine started my diet and activity went to shit

[rapid horizon]

how do i get my motivation/energy back?

[pulsar niche]

motivation for what?

[rapid horizon]

playing games, i feel like im forcing my self to play

[pulsar niche]

then you shouldnt play, if you dont enjoy it at all its detrimental to your progress

plenty of paths in life

or if you find the competitive aspects of games something you need to force, like constantly trying to get better just play casually

theres nothing you need to prove really

[winter abyss]

vitamin d/sleep/excerise

[wide ember]

Same problem I just stopped playing games I’ve been just playing the occasional kvks and doing other things

[wide ember]

Dopamine detox

[lunar pawn]

is there any good way to recover from a minor wrist injury other than taking a break

like im taking a break rn but im wondering if it's possible to heal faster

[unique cairn]

the posture guide is kinda overwhelming cuz theres so many excersices and there is no way ill do them all but i wanna do at least some, what are the top 3-5 excersices i should do for improving posture?

@thorn matrix

[lunar pawn]

nvm im stupid lol i found the pin

[violet swan]

@open ivy hey what should I do if the right side of my hand hurts and kinda feels numb at the same time; its around the pinky area and a bit lower

@open ivy also is it cause im gripping the mouse too hard?

maybe

just take a break for a bit

but if you feel its because you grip your mouse to hard. Try to find a more relaxed grip

[unique cairn]

What I do to make sure I’m relaxing my had is to do finger and hand tensing/relaxing exercises to help me feel the difference between tense and relaxed

[violet swan]

I just stretch mine and put them in hot water always does the trick for me

[violet swan]

Does anyone know how to find motivation for working out again

I want to start doing a gym routine like I used to but I haven't had the motivation to workout for a few months

Cause I'm pretty sure working out helps your mental health which would be nice

[lusty bluff]

That right there should be your motivation.

[violet swan]

The problem is that im not in a very good mental state right now so i lack any sort of motivation or anything to make me start although i know it would probably benefit me.

[lusty bluff]

https://youtu.be/6rcDY-wJOH4

Oddly timely for your problem

lol

All it takes is going to the gym. On days I don't want to go gym, I just go, and sit, and watch youtube while drinking, and then slowly warming up and getting into it

I was going to just sit on my ass and watch youtube at home so why not at gym? Just getting yourself there, is the important part.

Once you're there everything will come, if that makes sense.

So hell, if you're just sitting watching youtube, go to gym and do it until you feel like working out 😛

I ain't a psych, and I just abuse myself until i do things tbh, but when I really can't be arsed, that does the trick.

[silent osprey]

ivan is a fucken legend

[wide ember]

I had the same thing it was because my pinky wasn’t on the mouse but I was pressing it into the pad for more stopping power it was just a bad habit I had to break

[lunar pawn]

idk i find that just pushing yourself to get started is enough

and once you've had like a solid week motivation just comes

also getting good sleep makes workouts like 10x easier

that's crazy motivation for me

[violet swan]

how many hours of sleep are you meant to get?

because i think i do get sleep

unless its weekends then i stay up until like 5 in the morning

[violet chasm]

@lusty bluff super good advice tbh

i started going to the gym recently and for the first few days i just went and walked on the treadmill for a while and even used that time to do hand stretches

after a few days of that I started to hit the weights/run

just going really improves your mood and while youre there even if you feel shitty or youre not into it you usually just want to do something

[violet swan]

yeah

im gonna really try get back into gym work soon

[thorny dew]

8 Hours

[violet swan]

oh i definitely dont get that on the weekends

thanks ladan

[thorny dew]

np 🙂

[violet swan]

What is the maximum time you should train for in order to maximize learning but still avoid injuries such as tendonitis?

[thorny dew]

1-2 hours, personally I wouldnt go over an hour, cause 2 hours can probably be bad if you dont have optimal posture etc. Just my guess tho, no experience with injuries and no doctor

[violet swan]

Ok thanks.

[hot pilot]

can I have all the ergonomics advice

for my setup

[lunar pawn]

Check pins

[velvet fjord]

yo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXT4WGHawJY

this man give the advice to have shoulder blades back and slightly up

are you really supposed to have ur shoulders up?

[graceful pine]

30 mins to 1 hr to be honest. Unless you're really motivated and having a solid day to focus but you wouldn't want to crash midway on a subconscious level and form autopilot habits.

[thorny dew]

who are you answering 😄

[graceful pine]

Sorry, that's about aim training.

[thorny dew]

wait

why are you just randomly writing it in here lol

im very confused

@graceful pine

[graceful pine]

@violet swan

[thorny dew]

ohhhhhhhhhh

I see

[graceful pine]

[lunar pawn]

Not super high up, but make sure they aren't sagging

In between a shrug and sagging

[velvet fjord]

yea i got it after trying it a couple of times

[spice berry]

How do I find good recipes I feel like everything that I find by googling is just mediocre copy pasted recipes made only for clickbait rather than actually being useful do I need to find/buy an actual cookbook??

I just want decent food that's easy to make to be healthy not some tiktok trend food

[solid stirrup]

BBC good food is reasonable

[violet swan]

Is failing to click some sort of tell of a possible injury brewing in my wrist or forearm?
As in bringing my mouse on a dot, trying to click, but actually not clicking and then just moving on to the next dot

[sullen rivet]

I got sick right around the time I started aim training an hour before i go to bed after a day, any possibility they are related? It's not a like a cold or anything, im not sure what it is, i just feel terrible the day after. Headache, stomachache, general fatigue

Guess I should take a day off and see how it goes

[slow minnow]

this happens to me very very rarely, but i have no idea tbh

i sorta thought it was a mental thing tbh

like my brain realised im gonna miss and tries to stop me

[violet swan]

Hmm fair yea, I might be able to attribute it to the same thing

Just felt like it happened more than usual this morning

[violet swan]

How much sleep should I get? I am 15.

[thorny dew]

you need to try stuff out cause everyones different, but 8 hours is a good starting point

[velvet fjord]

try as hard as possible to get 8 or more.

[spice berry]

I dont feel hunger in my stomach I just get a headache if I don't eat enough is that bad?

[thorny dew]

seems odd to me, ask a doctor maybe

I dont have expertise

tho

[slow minnow]

loss of appetite isnt a good thing

probably just your stomach lining a bit upset tho

[violet swan]

I used to take a nap in the afternoon before I started aim training . Now , I train usually at 3:00pm in the afternoon as I have classes in the morning and work in the evening. If I don't take a nap then I get a mild headache throught the evening. If I take a nap and miss training then my consistency suffers. What am I doing wrong?

[unique cairn]

How much do u sleep

[violet swan]

7-8 hours excluding the nap.

[lusty bluff]

Water and caloric intake may effect that @violet swan

also I can speak from pers experience, being on a PC all day effects your eyes and can build headaches

[slow minnow]

i find it kinda crazy people say their consistency suffers if they miss a single day of training, like maybe it suffers and you need an extra 10 minutes of warmup but thats not even a big deal and breaks are almost always good for your brain to process what youve learned

[unique cairn]

Even if u struggle the day after missing it will not hurt in the long run

[violet swan]

Water, nutrition, exercise, sunlight, stable sleep schedule. @violet swan

[muted pelican]

eating healthy isn't hard, look for simple things like oatmeal with fruit (with a scoop of protein powder if you're looking concerned about muscle retention) simple cooked eggs etc

figuring out what you like and don't like would be the first step, you can always rely on google if you need extra help understanding how to cook certain foods as well

[muted pelican]

One of the easiest ways to improve my overall health was thinking of food as fuel rather than something i enjoyed, once you understand what your body needs for your daily activities it's a lot more simple when it comes to choosing what to eat

[graceful pine]

People will be hitting 50% acc on McCree and freak out about consistency if they miss a few shots and say it's because they didn't train for a day.

Unrealistic mindsets. I think people should watch more pros and see that they miss a fair bit, too.

[spice berry]

I think that's a horrible way to think

[muted pelican]

Just telling you what worked for me ☆〜（ゝ。∂）

I happen to be in the best shape of my life while reaping the rewards of healthy eating using that thought process 🤷

[winter abyss]

seems pretty based

[spice berry]

If you don't also get the mental health benefits of eating food you enjoy that's just not optimal. I also think it's more important to think about what your body needs long term rather than just to get through the day.

[edgy kettle]

Been getting some pain in my bone as in this picture shows and it clicks the morning after playing, think it's caused I've been using the outset AX which forces my hand in to a slightly tilt grip where the meaty part under my thumb isn't touching the mousepad so it been under extra strain, I get direct pain whenever stretching that part but almost no pain when playing only after so I've stopped using the outset for now but would like to continue using it since it's my fav shape but it's really hard for me to grip it without using a slight tilt grip since it have an aggressive curve on the bottom left side. Anyone know if there's anything I can do?

[sick dagger]

Hey guys do you know what it is when I get hyperfocused my vision becomes smaller then it starts becoming small & big as if it's jumping back and forth?

I feel like the movie "Wanted"

[ivory sky]

idk if anybody in here has taken the final american red cross first aid exam

but i ahve one tmr and have zero clue whats on it

[silent osprey]

@errant sky how are you tracking ur route? I've never been able to get that in Google fit

[errant sky]

you have to start walk when you actually do it

if you let it automatically track it won't be as accurate

as in click the plus thing and start walk/running

[silent osprey]

Ooh

Seems annoying

I go for like 2-3 walks a day and just let my fitness tracker do whatever shit it needs

But it'd be cool to have route stuff like that

[errant sky]

there might be an auto option, since it uses GPS it probably doesn't want it on by default

I'm used to just starting it, so it works for me :)

[spice berry]

I want to go run but I know I will be too tired to do anything after it what should I do???

[errant sky]

do it anyway

[spice berry]

why

[summer condor]

Hi

Shit don’t be on health asking some bogus reaction then saying another dumb response

[unique cairn]

@spice berry just schedule a break after. U can take a shower and relax and then u will have energy again.

[spice berry]

nah every time I run I will be like a zombie for next 3 hours minimum

[unique cairn]

That’s probably more of a mental thing tbh

Is it soreness or lack of energy?

[spice berry]

brainfog and lack of energy

[unique cairn]

How long do u run?

[spice berry]

idk I do a 3km path and I try to run most of it but walk some bits

I haven't taken time

[unique cairn]

I’m assuming u are not used to exercising that much?

[spice berry]

?

[unique cairn]

Sorry

Edited

[spice berry]

not really

[unique cairn]

And what do u do after

[spice berry]

shower and then just lay in bed

[unique cairn]

Do u eat snack/stay hydrated?

If ur body burns lots of energy/fluid u have to refuel it

[spice berry]

I stay hydrated maybe I'm not eating enough

[unique cairn]

Do u eat before?

[spice berry]

no

[unique cairn]

When do u eat?

[spice berry]

when there is food

[unique cairn]

Are u waiting for some1 to make u food?

[spice berry]

my dad makes lunch and dinner but other than that I eat bread, porridge, muesli and stuff like that

[unique cairn]

If ur parents or something usually make the food in the house try telling them u get really tired from running and that u need some snack

Usually parents will be happy to buy u a snack if it will let u excersize

Stuff like trail mix/energy bar/energy drink/ fruit / veggies is all good

[spice berry]

I don't think lack of snacks is my issue

[unique cairn]

Well idk it sounds to me like u are not eating enough whether it’s b4 or after idk

[spice berry]

I'm pretty sure I eat enough and consistently enough maybe I lack some specific nutrients

[unique cairn]

If u are eating the same amount when u don’t as when u do u are doing it wrong

About specific nutrients I can’t help with that sry 😦

[spice berry]

thanks for talking I think I got some good clues on what to investigate further

[errant sky]

yeah that was my thought too

[shell zinc]

Hey so I’ve been playing and I’ve been noticing my right shoulder have been hurting after I’m done playing

[unique cairn]

what part of your shoulder

can be caused by shrugging shoulder if table is too high, lowering shoulder if table is too low, or having arm too far forward or too far back

or from rotating shoulder too much

there are a lot of different shoulder muscles lol

[granite inlet]

my posture sucks too much my back is super curved and now i get constant back pain what doctor shud i visit?

[unique cairn]

i think this happened to me from trying to improve my posture by sitting up straight loool. hopefully it goes away tmrw but i kinda doubt it

@shell zinc also from moving shouder too far away from ur body

if u use a low sense and a big mousepad

[shell zinc]

Yeah I have a low sense

It must be that

[pulsar niche]

physio

[sullen rivet]

I been sick and I think aim training is affecting it, took a break the day before yesterday, and I felt pretty good the day after. Because I felt alright I decided to train again and the next day, being today, I feel horrible again. Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions? I got sick right around the time I started my routine as well 😔

[muted pelican]

@spice berry eat carbs before a run, pasta, bread etc. At first running is going to suck unless you already have your cardio up to speed. Start with a short goal and work your way up to the longer mileage as time goes on.
Being uncomfortable is part of running sometimes, normally before the runners high.

You can also try eating carbs the night before and running first thing in the morning? I felt pretty fresh after those ones, especially because I look forward to breakfast

[muted pelican]

What kind of sickness?

[sullen rivet]

I'm not entirely sure what it is, never felt sick like this before. But the symptoms mostly come down to headaches, stomachaches and fatigue

[muted pelican]

If you’re generally fatigued I would just suggest resting as much as possible. If you’re experiencing worse symptoms it might just be because your body can’t take it right now. The screen might make the headaches worse and the focus required to ACTUALLY improve your aim is just too tiring for your body currently.

Make sure to hydrate as much as possible along with eating plain foods if you’re dealing with an upset stomach

https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/best-foods-for-upset-stomach

[muted pelican]

Hope you feel better soon man !

[sullen rivet]

@muted pelican thank you so much! I'll have a look at the link you sent and definitely take a break from training until I'm fully recovered

[muted pelican]

You’re welcome ::D, that’s probably the best thing you could do for yourself after all! Just means you can get back to the grind faster B)

[sullen rivet]

Haha exactly

[turbid fossil]

is it normal to have random belly cramps that feel like ur being punched with a stick for 3 seconds and then everything is normal again?

[pulsar niche]

no, why would that be normal?

[deft radish]

my wrist is popping when moving my wrist right, is there a way to make the popping go away?

[violet swan]

That feel when the gyms opened back up and forearm is getting so big again that wrist posture is going to shit

[ripe tree]

just make it not big smh

[ripe valve]

Hey, if you are very fatigued after a run that is normal. You just worked out. Depending on how hard you ran feeling like a zombie for 3 hours afterwards isn't necessarily abnormal. I would mention that getting enough protein and carbs will help with recovery. I typically recommend 0.8 g of protein per kg of body weight. Having a handful of vegetables with every meal will also help with the vitamin and mineral side of things.

I would also want to know what your sleep is like. If you aren't sleeping well at night, at least 8-9 hours depending on your age, and waking up fatigued it will make you even more tired later.

[ripe valve]

There are a ton of shoulder muscles involved in moving your mouse. If you drastically increased how much you're playing you could be doing everything right but your muscles haven't build up enough endurance to catch up. If you want to build up some endurance then give this a try: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjMu52XEX0I

[ripe valve]

I agree a physio is a good place to start. You want someone who you like working with and doesn't just massage but also gives you work to do at home to make you stronger so the low back pain doesn't come back!

[ripe valve]

It depends on what kind of sick you are. Doing aim training can be very fatiguing. You don't need to stop training while you are sick but drop it to half of what you would do normally. If the aim training cuts into your sleep time it could also be part of why you don't feel as good afterwards

[ripe valve]

if it is a new thing that hasn't happened before I would say no. It could be nothing but I always err on the side of caution. Go see your family doctor and they can tell you for sure whether you need to be worried or not!

[ripe valve]

Stretching and exercises will help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoedUZ4OpPY

[ripe valve]

Also not going as far as you can to right if possible, depends on your sens, will help. Popping tends to happen at the limits of your range

[steep valley]

Quite a lot of times I find myself being out of the mood and just wanting to hop on the game straight away. Does anyone have any sort of tips to boost mood.

[sullen rivet]

thank you so much. my training doesnt cut into my sleep time but i do do it right before i go to bed, which is at about 10 PM. I try to finish training at 9am so i can calm down before i hop into bed. I think right now Ill still hold off from training till I feel completely healthy again. But I'll remember your advice for the next time I get sick and I don't wanna lose my rhythm!

[ripe valve]

Great choice to give yourself time to wind down after aim practice, that is good sleep hygiene! You know your body best so if you think complete rest will get you healthy faster then go for it. Get yourself healthy then start the grind again

[turbid fossil]

Idk I just wondered, since sometimes seemingly weird things are actually normal

[ripe valve]

It's very hard to tell just over discord which is why I recommend seeing a doc to be on the safe side

[ripe valve]

There are a lot of ways to hype yourself up. Some people like music or a inspirational video. I personally like to do 3 minutes of intense exercise to get my heart rate up and blood pumping. Intense just means intense for you so pick something that is challenging but not debilitating.

[ripe valve]

I will also mention if you always feel down then it might be a good idea to talk to your family doctor about it. I may be overstepping here but I want you to know that is an option if you need it

[steep valley]

Thank you, and I don’t really feel down in any way I just find aim training really boring.

[ripe valve]

Got it, in that case try some different scenarios or track your progress more. The sense of improvement can help increase enjoyment. If you have a goal for aim training this can also help. Are you doing it to improve at an FPS or just to feel like you are getting better. Both are completely viable

[steep valley]

I play to improve at FPS and also for enjoyment. I decided to start aim training because people were saying it helps improve aim faster. I’ll start benchmarking myself more and do like a quick warmup video before I aim train, thank you.

[violet swan]

If my back hurts to the point where it’s preventing me from exercising should I go see a chiropractor

Lower back pain

[long violet]

yes? any back pain should be taken serious imo

[ripe valve]

Yes, go see a chiropractor, pt or whoever you prefer

[ripe valve]

especially if it prevents you from exercising

[violet swan]

I wanted to do a box jump and like right before I jumped I got sharp pain in my lower back

[ripe valve]

Is the pain still there? Regardless a good physio or chiro should be able to teach you how to avoid it in the future

[violet swan]

No. It goes away after a bit but like I tried to do some exercise or anything and my lower back starts hurting a lot

A lot of the times when I get dressed too

Like when I lift my leg or something

In the morning

[ripe valve]

Go see a practitioner, my rule is if it gets worse, lingers for more than a week, or is painful enough to prevent you from doing something you should see somone

[violet swan]

its been like this for a month or so

my first time deadlifting i think i did it incorrectly

i think thats why

[ripe valve]

A month is too long, go see someone! A good practitioner will also be able to work through your technique so you can deadlift without pain in the future

[violet swan]

ill ask my mom again. she shrugged it off last time i told ehr

[worthy cloud]

if it's your first time doing it and you had nobody there to work with you chances are high that you did something incorrectly

also you'll need to learn proper warmup and mobility before any heavy compound lifting

there are some lower back pain specific movements and stretches you can do

if it comes back from just doing daily activities like getting up in the morning you should for sure see a professional

[rancid cobalt]

Hey I think I saw this talked about once before but I was just curious of there is any benefit to different posture positions or which one would put less strain on my right shoulder/neck muscle since it seems to be sore or tense while training

[summer condor]

Wash cloths or die

I think die

[odd quiver]

In general posture is very important, make sure that your spine maintains perfect symmetry and you don't slouch left or right while aiming

Try and keep your neck immediately above your torsoo and don't lean forwards such that you're off balance and your back tightens

Hybrid calisthenics has a great video on posture-improving exercises if you'd like me to link it

[pearl dome]

I finally got a desk to play on after throwing out some furniture and making the space for it in my room (used to play on a bed before this )
Assuming I'm sitting as close as possible to the desk with my stomach almost touching it, approximately how tall should the table be?

For reference, at which point should the top of the table touch my tummy?

I've seen most of the videos on yt about this but I'm still confused, everything seems weird and uncomfortable and I can't make up my mind if the desk is too low or too high or just right

Don't have adjustable chair tho so I have to improvise with towels and old schoolbooks. No matter

[pearl dome]

It's probably different for different people but if someone could tell me theirs it would bring me peace

[crystal birch]

i get wrist pain when aim training but in game its present but not nearly as bad

any tips

[quiet pawn]

Im getting eye strain after playing on a 144hz monitor for some time now im back on my 60hz and after 1 game my eyes hurts

[quiet pawn]

oh my screen is just tearing

[drowsy igloo]

hey it really depends on your chair

your elbow have to make a 90o degree angle with the desk when you're sitting on your desk

so you can measure it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8_ME4VwTiw

this video is great for understanding it

[rancid cobalt]

I really appreciate the reply and will keep that in mind also id like to watch that video if you don't mind linking it

[odd quiver]

@rancid cobalt
https://youtu.be/vZA31GMOtZE

(I know ew tiktok comps or whatever but the information is really, really good)

[uneven igloo]

really happy I've been able to get this far with essential tremor 🙂 was always sub average at most games so it's nice to see my growth over this past year

[worthy cloud]

Nice job

[odd quiver]

i have a conspiracy theory that having more vascular arms makes you a better aimer

i mean there's zero reason that freakazoid, pasha, blameF, anders, hiko, topgun, friberg, tarik

all pro at cs

and also all jacked?

some of the most capable riflers (the more percise of the two buy round roles) all also have amazing arms

[unique cairn]

How’s that a conspiracy theory

[odd quiver]

i think that the government has conspired to keep this information away from us.

[unique cairn]

Lol

[odd quiver]

Ima start tracking protein in order to get better at csgo

[worthy cloud]

@odd quiver I agree

I'm pretty good at tac fps aiming

Or at least I used to be

Surely it's the muscle

[odd quiver]

@worthy cloud I definitely think that there's some physiological merit to vascularity affecting aim

[worthy cloud]

my arms are large

but not vascular

[odd quiver]

I mean, if they're large it's probably just internal veins

They need to be vascular in order to build, right?

All I'm saying is that blameF is getting 50% headshot at events with arms like this

#4 in the world, complexity's best player

[violet swan]

[worthy cloud]

I'm a washed up CS player

got fat since covid as well

[odd quiver]

Looking good!

[worthy cloud]

been back at the gym hard for a couple weeks

training to maybe compete in a powerlifting meet

[odd quiver]

Ooo

[pearl dome]

ye I've see this. Guess I'm overthinking it.

[rose tapir]

Hey I have a question, a month ago or so I lowered my sens and now I have to wrist aim alot more then I used to do before. But I have the problem that when I go to far to the right with my wrist it like starts twitching and I cant track properly anymore. Is there a way to improve/get rid of this by strechs and shit? I already do like basics streching before practice.

[unique cairn]

Your wrist can only rotate so far

U gotta learn to use a bit of your arm in that case

[thorny dew]

LMAO

[odd quiver]

I just wanna bicep curl google don't give me this astrology shit

[plucky pine]

if I want to get strong solid wrists what should I hypothetically do

[rose tapir]

[smoky rampart]

pornhub

[unique cairn]

🚫

[dawn quail]

My ring and little fingers start hurting when I grind static dots no matter what mouse I use. Should I adjust my grip and are there some finger exercises that could help?

basically my ring finger is always right on the corner of the mouse so not quite a 1-2-2 or 1-3-1 grip

[slow minnow]

its because youre gripping too tightly

[dawn quail]

I try to grip as lightly as possible, but I guess I'll pay more attention to it. Not sure if that's it though

[devout wedge]

how do I stop having shakey hands

it makes it harder to make smooth or very linear and consistent movements

[covert sphinx]

pretty much just have to focus on staying relaxed

shakiness is mostly mental ive found

unless you have a disorder

[pulsar niche]

or your general health is poor

bad diet, no exercise

[covert sphinx]

^

[earnest pawn]

Sleep sleep and more sleep

[slow minnow]

hmm thats interesting, might not be the issue then, but it was my problem and i had the same thing

[dawn quail]

honestly I just can't find a comfortable way to rest both my ring and little fingers on the side of the mouse

not sure if a wider or thinner mouse would be better

[slow minnow]

maybe your mouse is too small

[dawn quail]

Right now I alternate between xm1r and g pro superlight, so neither are really that small

[slow minnow]

sens?

[dawn quail]

43 cm/360, but I've also played with 35 cm

[slow minnow]

nothing crazy

[dawn quail]

yeah, it's just about finding the right mouse or the right grip I guess.

[slow minnow]

yeah i think so, and some scenarios will make you tense up more than others

[dawn quail]

yeah I've also been desperately grinding for master in 6 sphere and that's one where you really tense your fingers a lot I think

[slow minnow]

i found on some static speed grinds id start out a bit tense, get a little bit or pain and then as i warmed up itd go away

all without thinking about my grip

just remember, what yoiure doing has to be sustainable

if you have to sacrafice some control by lightening your grip i think you should, and go back to focusing on technique over speed

im not opposed to some strengthening either i think you should focus on your entire arm and shoulder too

[dawn quail]

yeah, I can definitely notice some shoulder pain when doing ww3t for a long time

[slow minnow]

and remember you lose track of time easily while grinding, frequently take a 30s break and shake your hands out and do some stretches

[naive surge]

is it okay to do the wrist streching exercise more than once a day? I'm doing it everyday before kovaaks, but I'm thinking to do it at the end or between sections if I split my training in two.

[slow minnow]

a stretch should be okay to do frequently (within reason) without causeing issues, if it does, its probably a bad stretch

just remember to go in gentle and firm and test the waters first

[fading pier]

I have been using 15cm/360, was really scared about doing something to my wrist. Gadly I changed the sensitivity, I started even aiming better. Even started using my arm more than my wrist.

[pulsar niche]

below 20 is dangerous imo because then it gets to the range where u can do full 180 motion with your wrist

[fading pier]

yeah

I changed to 37cm

I am happy with my changes :)

[lone kiln]

Hey

im having an issue with pain in my pinky finger while aim training but not when gaming.

[unique cairn]

@slow minnow if u are frequently doing the stretch to relieve pain u should probably figure out a way to stop the pain so u don’t have to do the stretch frequently

If ur doing stretch frequently to help relax or something 💯

[slow minnow]

yeah its important not to just think of stretching as the solution to everything imo

[unique cairn]

Oh wrong person

[slow minnow]

sometimes you are already too stretched

and need strength

[unique cairn]

@naive surge

[slow minnow]

np

[unique cairn]

Well pain relief stretches are not long term solution

The pain is telling ur hurting ur body

Well unless it’s just fatigue

But usually it’s not in these questions lol

Stuff like “my wrist won’t go far enough, what stretches can I do so that I can move my mouse 100cm and do a 1080?”

Exaggerated the end but this is a legit question here

[pure laurel]

I was listening to a podcast and metronomes were mentioned for building speed in a skill. I've seen the use of a metronome mentioned here before but it's cool to know it has a scientific basis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJ0IBzCjEPk

[quaint junco]

do i need to do the stretching routine with both hands or only my aiming hand?

[pearl dome]

Is it normal for my right arm to feel really tired after a medium to long gaming session? Especially the biceps

[dawn quail]

Yes. It just means that you aren't used to playing that much.

[pearl dome]

Okay

[lone kiln]

Can someone help me with this

[scenic peak]

Man these benchmarks wear your wrist out lol

[unique cairn]

try relaxing ur wrist as much as possible it will last longer

[pulsar niche]

you are not supposed to play until your wrist wears out..

[fading pier]

just watched the podcast, incredible video

[compact salmon]

epci

[fluid wren]

do you guys use a different button to shoot when aim training
cause i feel like spamming left click hurts my hand

[grizzled salmon]

I use left click, since I want to apply the same amount of pressure on left click as I would in games. Believe it or not, there’s quite a drastic difference in your aim when holding down left click verses holding down an alternative key to fire. So I would recommend using left click

@fluid wren

[clever onyx]

When I play game 2hr+ my brain start to blank and can't focus any targets
do you guys have any trick to help focus?

[violet swan]

idk i can naturally play 10hours in a row without losing focus

[clever onyx]

how lol

[placid bison]

my nose bleeds badly in the morning for the second time this week because of allergy how to live

[graceful pine]

Aimer7 is on some shit with regards to health and performance for gaming.

Mans saying exercise and a healthy nutritional diet is moot.

Yeah a shitload of sugar and stimulants will give you short-term gains in a reactive aiming environment but probably not the best to encourage that.

[clever onyx]

I think it is moot that boring af

but i want to play more to be better

what a contradict

[pulsar niche]

whats ur diet like? exercise?

[clever onyx]

Rice , omelette and some veg stir fry thing or pasta sometime
and i didn't exercise

[pulsar niche]

no exercise at all is a big red flag, you can look for short term bandaid solutions like 90% of people in this channel

or actually start doing something

if no focus persists outside of games too then go to a doctor

[clever onyx]

what kind of bandaid?

have a pic?

[pulsar niche]

its a saying, like a temporary solution and not addressing the underlying cause

try to have a varied diet, do some light exercise if thats all you can do, regular sleep pattern

if you still have no focus after trying all that for a few weeks then go to a doc

[tired falcon]

Small break in between like every (couple of) match(es), standing up, looking at different stuff for a moment to kinda reset a little, long, continuous sessions can screw up your focus for the rest of the day or a big portion of the day.

[clever onyx]

I see

Thx you all

[violet ginkgo]

How to keep our eye healty and good while gaming

[ripe tree]

um

just dont hurt ur eye

[violet ginkgo]

understandable have a great day

[ripe tree]

and if u want less eye strqin just keep monotor further away ans take brakes

[slow minnow]

yo guys, im trying to do some research on hand/wrist/arm/shoulder health for gaming, if you have done any exercises that have helped a certain problem you've had, please reply to this or PM with a just a brief outline of the problem and then the exercise that helped

[pearl dome]

Should I be experiencing tension in my arm, especially the biceps when aiming upwards?

[violet swan]

Everytime I play valorant (only happens in valorant) I tend to zone out in a way where I have somewhat control of what im doing but like my brain is very foggy I guess that one way to say it. Does anyone know why?

[plucky pawn]

Need help

Anyone please

[trail finch]

I have a wrist brace and wrist wrap and both dig into the skin between the thumb and pointer finger

[scenic peak]

not sure if this is the correct spot for this. So I have a long standing issue with gripping the mouse too tight < I THINK thats what the problem is among others> that it causes my aim to be shaky and inconsistent. Is there any tried and true methods to mitigate this or am I just kinda screwed lol?

[ripe valve]

Both hands, it is very difficult to overstretch and stretching has a lot of benefits beyond just pain

[ripe valve]

Is it because your nose is dry? If it is a humidifier might help

[ripe valve]

You are a smart man. Sugar and stimulants help in the short-term but it tanks your long term gains. And it doesn't necessarily help with your decision making or higher level game sense skills

[ripe valve]

Everything Kiku and mpr said is great advice! Think about it this way: if you are feeling tired during a long session you body/mind doesn't have enough endurance to handle it. How do you increase it? Fuel yourself better with good food like vegetables, lean protein and fruits. Increase your overall capacity with exercise, you can start with just walking and then build from there if this is new for you. Sleep well so you can recover in-between sessions. It makes a difference

[ripe valve]

I recommend your monitor being about one arm's length away, and the top of the monitor should be at your eye level. The brightness of your room should match the brightness of the monitor and vice versa. Basically keep the lights on instead of gaming in the dark. Also following the 20-20 rule can be helpful. For every twenty minutes of screen time look at something a few metres away for 20 seconds to give your eyes time to reset

[ripe valve]

It is hard to know without seeing your aiming style but if it is bugging you make sure your set-up and aiming style makes it easy for you to aim upwards without straining. Basically make sure it feels like you aren't stretching to aim up

[ripe valve]

Definitely possible to work on it. Part of this is how your body is reacting to stress. What we recommend is spending at least half an hour a day in an aim trainer intentionally moving your mouse with a relaxed grip. Don't go fast, go smoothly and make sure the entire time your hand is relaxed. Keep it up every day and the results will translate

[scenic peak]

i will try this, thank you very much

[placid bison]

its totally stuck in the morning cant even breath and when i sneeze old wound opens and bleeds again

allergy killing my eyes and shnose so badly

[slow minnow]

@ripe valve i get a sore muscle on my right side (aiming side) mid back, under the shoulder blade by a few inches after hours and hours of gaming. its not a major problem, i just rest and im good, but im wondering if this is because of a lack of strength elsewhere. I also had an x-ray for lung stuff that showed mild scoliosis of the spine, could it possibly be that?

[ripe valve]

You are welcome! good luck

[ripe valve]

Is your nose dry or wet? This is outside of my scope so I recommend talking to your family doctor about this

[ripe valve]

A mild scoliosis shouldn't affect you that much. I recommend this routine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjMu52XEX0I&t=3s

[ripe valve]

That should help with shoulder stability and strength

[slow minnow]

im doing that one for a nearly a week now i love it

will keep at it

thanks

[ripe valve]

Great choice! If you don't notice a different after a couple weeks just shoot me a message

[slow minnow]

🙏 thanks

[violet ginkgo]

thx for helping

[ripe valve]

You're welcome, I hope it helps!

[tired falcon]

I'm on a vegetable with only light meats and nearly 0 sugar diet since 2 weeks and I can say - after the first hard hurdle (where I had continuous headaches for 2 days because my body and digestive system were confused) - I feel much better at the morning and my play gotten also better or "more aware". Just gotta keep it up.

[ripe tree]

wym light meats

[tired falcon]

Meats with very little fat and less amount in general.

[ripe tree]

okay

[scenic peak]

So i am practicing keeping my hand loose and relaxed, for the 30 mins as i was told, should i do certain types of scenerios for this specifically?

@ripe valve

[ripe valve]

As long as your are covering the typical aiming scenarios you experience in game then you are good. E.g. Valo is flick heavy so more flick scenarios and something like overwatch is tracking heavy so more tracking drills

[scenic peak]

@ripe valve THANKS!I do apex primarily

[ripe valve]

No problem, if you're an apex person definitely more tracking but it depends on your playstyle!

[static gale]

https://youtu.be/2h9Ub-SlyUs

i mak vid

[thorny dew]

why so cracked at fitness? 👀 thought gm's dont have time for that stuff 😄

[static gale]

thx

and nah it's the same as aim training

do thing every day and watch numbers go up

[graceful pine]

Thata why he's gm lmao.

[terse willow]

anyone know a good way to counter caffeine making me bad at aiming?

[smoky rampart]

l theanine stops the jitters from caffeine

[covert sphinx]

stop ingesting caffeine maybe?????

if its causing you problems why keep taking it

[slow minnow]

maybe youre very sensitive to caffeine, could try lowering your dosage

[graceful pine]

160mg is enough for me. The regular 300mg in energy drinks hits me too hard.

[tired falcon]

Energy drinks also with sugar makes the caffeine hit differently into your system - mostly with a crash at the end of the day and way too much energy at once.

[pulsar niche]

my elbows just cried

[static gale]

my elbows only hurt if i go way past 90 degrees

[pulsar niche]

i injured my elbow from a static hold with my own bodyweight so seeing u do that with that weight lmao

[little jackal]

when i play games my aim is really good for the first 2-4 games then falls off, could this be because of a lack of exercise? or are there other reason it could be

[azure bone]

ive been getting pain in my thumbs and my mid forearm, any particular stretches you guys know of?
ive been taking a break but the discomfort remains

[pallid cloak]

@azure bone https://bit.ly/2u8zZaF
6,7,8

[violet swan]

does anyone know how to stop drinking coffee

i started to drink it alot

i stopped and i feel so tired all the time

even after not drinking it for a few days

[thorny dew]

@violet swan I think it takes longer than a few days for the tiredness to go away, could be like 2 weeks or whatever iirc

also cutting on it slowly is better than going 100 to 0 in a day

[violet swan]

yeah

[gaunt dust]

@violet swan sounds like caffeine dependency

[thorny dew]

isnt that what everyone drinking coffee builds?

[pliant sentinel]

I feel like I have to worry about my right forearm hurting after 5 minutes on top of my desk

[thorny dew]

too much pressure maybe? like your elbow should be about 90 degrees, so you dont put a lot of pressure

[pliant sentinel]

do you want a picture?

[thorny dew]

ye why not

[violet swan]

do you know how to stop it?

[gaunt dust]

@violet swan like ladan said you should drink less and less until you don't need anymore

It's like when drug addicts go cold turkey then die later from withdrawal

[thorny dew]

can you do it like right from the desk height?

the picture

[pliant sentinel]

This is what it looks like when I’m playing

[thorny dew]

seems like you sit too low, looks like there is a lot of pressure to me

[gaunt dust]

@pliant sentinel yeah that it too much

[pliant sentinel]

I can see the issue but it still hurts even when i put the whole arm on the desk

[gaunt dust]

Can you try sitting closer so your elbow can touch instead

[pliant sentinel]

my mousemat doesn't go that far

[gaunt dust]

Or sit higher

[thorny dew]

try sitting so high that there is way less pressure

[pliant sentinel]

and there's a router in front of it

[gaunt dust]

I put a cushion on my chair so I'm not too low

[pliant sentinel]

okay

I did that and my palm feels pressure now

[gaunt dust]

Your palm shouldn't touch

Also being too high can can pressure as well

[pliant sentinel]

i feel so dumb I can't find a comfortable position

[gaunt dust]

Cause*

Do you use a high sens?

[pliant sentinel]

I can't do that I'm used to it being a pivot point

[pliant sentinel]

800dpi 1.5 on apex

It's uhhh

I can track a target without moving my arm

[thorny dew]

no pressure

[gaunt dust]

I'll check what that is in cm/360

[pliant sentinel]

essentially I'm wrist aiming

[pliant sentinel]

bout 3x

35 36

[gaunt dust]

It's 35cm

I use 37cm on apex

So it's not very high

Planting your wrist is going to limit your aim

And contribute to wrist problems

[thorny dew]

what does that look like?

[gaunt dust]

@thorny dew what do you mean?

[thorny dew]

planting your wrist

[gaunt dust]

Palm touching mousepad

[thorny dew]

so Im not?

[pliant sentinel]

This is as low as my camera angle could go

oh wow its not sending

[gaunt dust]

Sorry I meant wrist

[thorny dew]

How would your wrist not touch your pad?

[gaunt dust]

I use a finger tip and only a little bit of my palm touches

I just try and keep the wrist off the mousepad because everyone says that's bad

[thorny dew]

waaaait

do people say that?

[gaunt dust]

Yes

[gilded spire]

i don't think so

[pliant sentinel]

wat

[thorny dew]

wouldnt not planting it

look like this?

[pliant sentinel]

I took a screenshot of the pic

[gaunt dust]

Yes

[pliant sentinel]

Lol it's not letting me send the pic

[thorny dew]

and people say thats good?

[gaunt dust]

Having your wrist as a pivot is bad

[pliant sentinel]

LMFAO It thinks it's an explicit picture :(

[thorny dew]

? So that would mean wristaiming is bad

[gaunt dust]

No

You can still wrist aim without it touching

[thorny dew]

but what does wristaiming mean if it doesnt mean using your wrist as a pivot?

[gaunt dust]

I wrist aim a lot in static and get diamond scores

[gilded spire]

not putting it against mousepad reduces friction

probably

[gaunt dust]

Planting your wrist also limits your ability to use your arm

Unless you're fast at lifting quickly

Like bardoz I use my fingers to touch the mousepad for stability

[thorny dew]

wait so this is not good?

[gaunt dust]

Having your wrist as your only pivot is bad

If it isn't too much pressure then maybe it's okay

I think it's just important that you don't pressure your wrist

[thorny dew]

seems to be wrist and arm

also there isnt that much pressure on my wrist

[gaunt dust]

@thorny dew yeah I don't think that should be a problem

[thorny dew]

ty

[scenic peak]

Is a compression sleeve a good idea for stopping my arm from sticking

[true crystal]

So I'm currently in the middle of a mental crisis where my setup is never comfortable and my gameplay/focus suffers

I've been trying to sleep from 11-7, but I usually wake up at 10-12

I don't feel well rested upon waking up

I tend to think that when I get disorganized and I can't play how I like, I should spend time on other things to sort of rest my brain

Doctor aside, any tips on consistency

I need better focus

[gaunt dust]

@scenic peak yes but I noticed it increased friction on my cloth pad and decreases friction on a hard pad.

You can also lift your arm a bit as well instead of resting it fully

[violet swan]

got an issue when tracking, my arm begins to stutter and spasm, and it feels like there are bumps in my mouse pad

[bright jay]

probably one reason why im under performing some days right?

i usually sleep around 1-2 am then wake up on 7:30ish on the week days and i sleep at 4-5 am and wake up at 9-11 am on weekends

[river bobcat]

I use a hein and i picked one up the other day and im liking it def helps my arm not stick

Ive been trying to relax my arm/wrist while playing and some days I can and other I physically cannot relax it and I dont know why. Any ideas why this might be happening?

Could it be over stimulated from caffine? I usually only have a cup of green tea and sometimes coffee

[static gale]

oof

i injured my arm a few months ago doing some random bodyweight shit

was either from bent arm planches or upside down behind the back rope climb

couldn't use my right arm for like 4 months and it still hurts sometimes

[scenic peak]

@river bobcat 2 things. 1. @ripe valve said to spend 30 mins of training a day forcing a loose/relaxed grip 2. I just used a copper fit elbow sleeve and it solved my friction problem

[river bobcat]

thats the same one I use haha

[ripe valve]

@scenic peak is exactly right. Dedicate part of your practice to intentionally playing with a relaxed grip. It will translate. Typically people tense because you start to feel pressure which naturally makes you want to put more strength into your hands

[river bobcat]

ok thank you

[scenic peak]

@ripe valve last couple days I’ve been doing this and already noticed a difference

Ty!

[ripe valve]

That is awesome! I'm glad it is helping. Keep it up!

[pulsar niche]

you didnt rehab it at all?

[static gale]

did light work with it

[gaunt dust]

Will working out my arms and shoulders help with overall aiming stability?

[little jackal]

i also wanna know^

[static gale]

probably not

[graceful pine]

Why wouldn't it?

Of course it would.

Richer muscles, bloodflow, coordination, and chances are if you're working out you'll also be receiving cognitive benefits too.

Keeping your shoulders and arms strong is important too.

[little jackal]

Thanks:)

[summer condor]

Rehab done now what

What’s gunna happen to me

[supple flume]

Sounds like you have a delayed sleep pattern, which can be really tough as it shortens your sleep duration if you have to get up early for work/school. Bright light therapy might be helpful to try and re-time your sleep timing so you can get more sleep. Only getting 5.5-6.5hrs sleep per night will definitely impact your performance.

[supple flume]

It's normal to feel groggy upon waking. It's called sleep inertia, which just means your brain is trying to catch up to the fact you've transitioned from being asleep to being awake. How you generally feel during the day is more important (keeping in mind some daytime tiredness is normal).

[rugged ginkgo]

some days my eyes feel really slow, especially when tracking, everything looks blurry, while other times, i can see everything clearly and easily win every game. anyone knows why? maybe bad sleep or diet idk

[winged briar]

Guys what should i do if my thumb is cramping up when aim training?

[rugged ginkgo]

try changing grip

[fluid fulcrum]

i find my arm getting super tense when aiming sometimes

are there any good ways to help me stay relaxed while aiming

thanks

[rugged ginkgo]

it's mental, u can try to begin slow and build up speed over time when aim training

[fluid fulcrum]

alr thanks

[full hazel]

my trapezius on my aiming arm tires out after 30 minutes after arm aiming, any advice to eliminate aches or at least decrease the intensity of it?

[violet swan]

I don't know if this is a question for #health but, does anyone have any resource to help eliminate outcome dependancy?

I focus on winning and it consumes all my focus. It causes anxiety because loss is like an unacceptable outcome for me.

I just want to learn to do my best and focus on the progress rather than winning or losing

Can't say I am doing a good job though. Does anyone have a resource on this?

[median siren]

Damn I would like to read anything you find on that topic

[violet swan]

Please DM me so I don't lose you. There is this eSports caster named Dan Kappadia and in one of his podcasts he talks about outcome dependency. The name might be wrong but I am in the bed right now so can't really Google ATM. Please remind me tomorrow or DM me so I do not lose you.

[median siren]

DDK! Yeah he's a caster from CS/Valo. He's super knowledgeable. Will do.

[pallid cloak]

Focus on details... focus on doing all the right little details and you brain wont be able to focus on results

That means even if you just moving smoothly when there is no threat ect

That has helped me a lot

[toxic ferry]

I've a standing desk. I mostly use it when i'm working so i'm not always on my chair. Anyone tried playing while standing ?

[gaunt dust]

@violet swan I had this issue before but I had to realise that it's just a game so it doesn't matter if I lose. I'm playing to improve

Just remember that in the end a loss doesn't negatively affect you in the future and it's just a temporary thing

[fallen vortex]

Focus is such a weird-ass shit tbh, if you don't know how to manage it then it's really frustrating at some point

I had such issues not long time ago

But then I started to turn my thought processes off and just let myself trying do the best what I'm doing at this particular moment, so there is no goal for the future, just a moment where I need to execute or find the best decision

But you can't focus eternally and you need to understand that, just make breaks when needed and do what help you to restore that focus

That's kinda my point atm

[pulsar niche]

a lot of people start playing on autopilot after a period of focus and thats when they start repeating the same mistakes over and over

[fallen vortex]

Yeah

[pulsar niche]

you need to take breaks nobody can stay hyper focused for hours

[river bobcat]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1gI9Vmj69AGaUnyphhHnKEIvKs8PhZfEJsNaczYsRvro/edit

[sudden bramble]

the struggle with depression slows me down. im trying to work yet i keep thinking about the live I want to live. a life without these health conditions, anyone else?

[thorny dew]

you getting therapy?

for depression

[sudden bramble]

no. i dont have the medical condition, im just depressed. im trying hard to make the best of my situation, and some days i seem fine cause im obsessing and focusing on a hustle or work. all while i try to keep negative thoughts away but the gate weakens and they get through.

[pulsar niche]

if depression is majorly affecting your life then it likely is a medical condition, and the way you are describing it it seems very detrimental for you

is it possible for you to get professional help?

[thorny dew]

I agree, can you get professional help?

Also even if it wasnt the condition "depression", feeling that bad is still a reason for therapy imo

[pulsar niche]

i recommend ruling out physical causes first , common nutrient deficiencies, low testosterone for men, thyroid issues (if you cant even do these then you need therapy or some support first)

[sudden bramble]

i guess i can but never felt like i need it. that also costs money. its weird to ask my parents for a therapist. im a very closed off person.

[thorny dew]

what country are you in?

Its not weird, it just feels that way

[pulsar niche]

are your parents supportive?

im not sure if you need your parents consent to get mental health counseling or something in your country but there might be some programs for young people

[sudden bramble]

my life has been very difficult the past 3 years, and literally painful. we all have these impressions deep within our mind about how out teenage and young adult life will turn out. i just didnt know it was going to be this for me.

also the pain and sadness actually physically hurts my head. way behind my eyes, and near my prefrontal cortex i actually have some physical pain and tension from all the thoughts and emotions.

[sudden bramble]

im in the united states. i just dont want to go to therapy or ask my parents for it.

i mean what a turn after turn for me.

[thorny dew]

In my opinion you definitely should ask, do you recognize how badly its effecting you?

[pulsar niche]

why dont you want to go? theres no shame in it its very common

ive been to therapy myself multiple times and i slightly understand your perspective since you are likely young, it does feel weird

[thorny dew]

feeling like you are broken or not as worthy if you have to have therapy maybe? Thats pretty common