health

[rose vale]

And unless something random changed I feel a little less fatigued when I’m not taking it

But like I mentioned I struggle to get up, even waiting in bed 2 hours before getting up or just keep falling asleep until noon and I get like 12 hrs of sleep

[marsh latch]

damn sounds heavy

[rose vale]

Yea I don’t even know at this point

Like I totally could’ve had the medication for me but had some things happen and think it was the medication and moved on

It’s so hard to tell

[marsh latch]

just keep going i guess, no point in stopping now. but thats the cost of being impatient in some regard and having incompetent doctors, those two dont work well together

[rose vale]

Yea it might take longer because I’m trying to find any free route I can

I don’t think I’ll ever go to the school health care again tbh my primary care doctor is already free

Guy was kinda an asshole

[marsh latch]

the guy who called you stupid?

[rose vale]

I mean not really but it was implied 😭

Kinda trashed on my primary care doctor aswell which i actually really like the guy

[marsh latch]

med studies and the stress that comes with it for sure emerge some interesting egos 😂

even if your journey is not done yet be aware of the steps you already made, you can be proud for not giving up

[rose vale]

Yea he didn’t seem professional at all, really young I assume aswell. I’m gonna trust the guy that probably has triple the experience especially in treating depression and anxiety

[rose vale]

One hell if a journey I pray it ends soon

Probably been maybe 6 years since my health started dropping

I don’t even really have a starting point yet

Hell i could even just be normal and life just sucks that bad 💀

[marsh latch]

but you already had alot of them to get the motor rolling

[marsh latch]

haha yeah to be honest, life always sucks and is never easy. just a few of us will have the luck for it

[rose vale]

Yea but despite all of the medication and shit I’ve taken I could’ve just had a depressive year and like just assumed I felt worse on it

Yk

That’s what really sucks is it’s practically just like a loop

[marsh latch]

yeah totally, thats why consistency is so important

[marsh latch]

welcome to depression, if thats really the case with you

[rose vale]

I’m hoping once I actually get a sleep test or adhd test like I’ll know for sure it’s not sleep related or maybe I have adhd or a sleep disorder that’s kinda causing it all

Or just have it crossed off so we can focus on something else

[rose vale]

I definitely was depressed as a teen but I don’t really feel like that anymore, more just fatigue and little interest in stuff which I know are depressive symptoms but could also be tied into other things

[marsh latch]

was about to say that, dont overhype yourself on a problem, the downfall if its not the case is brutal

[rose vale]

Also I kinda feel like I’ve practically covered everything I could’ve done depression wise

[dusk sedge]

meth

[marsh latch]

always a good choice

[dusk sedge]

jokes aside

for depression best bet is probably ketamine

iv or spray

[marsh latch]

you have experience with that to make that statement?

[rose vale]

💀

[dusk sedge]

yes with ket, but not actual ketamine therapy

[rose vale]

It’s fine I’ll take fent

[dusk sedge]

either way there arent as many side effects like with ssris

which are way more common

[rose vale]

If it’s recommended I can try to get another blood test

It’s probably been over 5-6 months and a decent bit has changed since then

[dusk sedge]

bro carnivore diet believe me

raw meat

[marsh latch]

bro i think your a bit too deep in that tiktok health bubble 😂

[dusk sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/goatis-agarthan-agarthan-emperor-gif-12526890639325960400

there are way too many layers of irony idk what is true anymore

[marsh latch]

everyone knows you have to eat the balls, the rest is propaganda from the vegans

[dusk sedge]

bull testicles ftw

[marsh latch]

wouldnt hurt, hell you can even type in your weekly diet and let chat gpt look for possible deficiencies and get them checked out with extra blood tests

[dusk sedge]

oh hell nah not chatgpt

[rose vale]

It’s nothing special I mean it’s not super limited but I’m only eating stuff my college had to offer

Meal plan money

If I can try to find like an actual sheet of diet information maybe I could actually make something up

[marsh latch]

for instance i wouldve never guessed im deficient in folacic acid or whatever its called in english, even tho im not trying to get pregnant

or am even able too get pregnant i have to add

[rose vale]

Get pregnant

[marsh latch]

yeah sure ill try and drink 20 gallons of water in one sitting maybe i look for a bit like that before i die

[rose vale]

But last time I got one I think the only thing that stood out was the vitamin D

And it wasn’t even like super super low but I took vitamin D for awhile to go above the norm

[marsh latch]

alot of stuff being on the low side of normal surely add up

[rose vale]

Yea I mean idek where to start rn im practically just waiting for the adhd testing and I’ll have to see if I can find a direct cost after insurance for a in lab sleep test

[marsh latch]

just keep the basics down until then, good sleep-, diet-, excercise routine. people often forget that the basics still make the biggest impact overall

[rose vale]

Yea I’ve been trying to get more workouts and walks in lately

It’s about a 15 minute walk to the student center and occasionally I’ll walk there and back or walk there and get transportation back which is free

The only thing I wanna look towards is something to cover the blinds, not 100% sure if there is space for blackout curtains or anything

[marsh latch]

ooh nice investment

[rose vale]

Kinda wish I was back at home sometimes I had an AC installed and blackout stuff and everything

The sun shines literally right at my window super early and obviously blinds don’t block everything

Especially the angle that I sleep the cracks at the bottom of the blinds idk

[final hedge]

I feel Wat is most Comfortable to me isn't comfortable :(

[rose vale]

One thing I struggle with is knowing how much of a workout counts as a workout, that produces the benefits of feeling better, sleeping better etc

Like sometimes I’ll walk for 15+ minutes in the sun or like I have this app where I have a specific workout that I do

[marsh latch]

i would consider a workout something that is challenging for my body

[dusk sedge]

its subjective and genetic

overworking would have negative effects

high intensity for short periods of time will improve how u feel

low intensity jogging for example should also do that

and it really depends on mood

[uneven ivy]

Why no stimulants, e.g. The actual stuff you use to treat ADHD with? Psych lacks certifications?

Oh yeah, I read more, typical, unlucky

The wait is worth it tho

[rose vale]

yea I don't have a diagnosis lmfao

[dusk sedge]

eebro stop getting people on drugs

[uneven ivy]

In the meantime, just enjoy being a dumbass version of yourself and fix other possible issues you have

[uneven ivy]

Why?

[rose vale]

eebro do you use fent

[uneven ivy]

I don’t use any illicit substances

[dusk sedge]

adhd is a call from nature

not something that yearns medication to be a good slave

[uneven ivy]

Exercise is probably the second most effective treatment for ADHD, first obviously being meds

[uneven ivy]

Lmao

[marsh latch]

dont worry he eats animal balls for breakfast

[dusk sedge]

not good enough

[rose vale]

I haven't noticed any difference but I'll keep doing it for the sake of health

[uneven ivy]

I’ve seen enough ppl with and without adhd try the meds to know the difference. For non-adhd, it’s like nothing, for adhd people, they usually start cleaning shit and doing stuff they were supposed to do 2 weeks ago

[marsh latch]

lift some heavy round things. pick them up, put them daown, get some muscles. atleast youre depressed then AND jacked

[uneven ivy]

Well, the thing is that exercising still doesn’t cure a lot of things. It’s helpful, and definitely supplements a wide variety of treatments.

Point is, without exercising the wait for diagnosis could be much, much worse

[rose vale]

idrk some symptoms I have and some I dont at all which makes me think I aint have it

[uneven ivy]

And after diagnosis exercising will be much easier and the benefits gained from it become consistent and long term

Many of the side effects for most medications will be less severe if you exercise, eat well and sleep well

[rose vale]

yea that's fair

[rose vale]

god bro

[rose vale]

Question about melatonin, should it only be used whenever I struggle to sleep on time or when my sleep schedule gets messed up?

[rich ore]

when you struggle to sleep

depends on you though

If u can’t sleep any day at all u take daily

I’d only take it when u really struggle cause it can give u annoying ass side effects

[dusky thicket]

am i supposed to feel this in the inner elbow too?

[marsh latch]

yes, those are the muscles you are stretching

[marsh latch]

The usecase is very limited and is just showing major benefits in people with a genetic sleeping disorder. Keep in mind that those people they researched took atleast 2mg, the over the counter stuff is dosed at 0.5mg. In contrast the „healthy“ people with or without sleeping problems reduced their time to fall asleep by 2-5 minutes which is statistically „irrelevant“. So: if you have the money for it go and try it out, but keep in mind the dosage

[rose vale]

Yea what’s surprising is that the normal dosage is so low but they sell 10mg like it’s nothing and people just assume that means better sleep

[uneven ivy]

Best way to sleep is to practice proper sleep hygiene, which basically just means being tired when you go to bed, only sleep in your bed and have your body run on a schedule

And if you have a sleep disorder, it can fuck with each one of these, so sleeping becomes increasingly difficult.

But you can also cause yourself incredible mental anguish without having a sleep disorder, if you just don’t sleep when you should.

[marsh latch]

yeah, supplement industry is clever in marketing and is easily reaping in the money from people who are desperate. they have to justify the pricetag somehow, even if all of it is major bullshit for the vast majority of people who use it

[rose vale]

Well I pretty much have that down

Well I guess not being tired when I go to bed I’m tired all the time

[marsh latch]

[rose vale]

Whether or not I just finished a workout, had a healthy meal or on 200mg of caffeine it’s pretty much similar

And usually between 12pm - 4 pm I have this like super huge tiredness wave that’s just so draining

Then I usually start to feel better and more awake at night

FYI just installed blackout curtains so hopefully that helps a little, especially when the sun rises directly in front of my window

[marsh latch]

that after dinner tiredness fucks me up too, some sugar helps me. i usuallly eat a banana for that

[rose vale]

I meant near noon, after lunch

im usually more awake at night than I am when I wake up

[marsh latch]

oh nevermind i meant lunch not dinner, i forgot thats a difference

[uneven ivy]

Also focus on waking up at the same time.

[rose vale]

I do

I lay down by 11:45 and be asleep by 12 and wake up at 9

[marsh latch]

what helped me improve my sleep quality was 30min-1hours before going to bed stopping to do any stressful stuff: playing games (fuck cs) scrolling social media or whatever. just you and your thoughts before going to bed for an hour or 30minutes

[rose vale]

I mean idk I usually use night mode to cancel out blue light and chill or just listen to a YouTube video and try not to watch it

I’d get pretty bored lmfao

well I mean I'm always bored I guess

[marsh latch]

the art in winding down is learning to be bored, and to stay bored. im not joking when i say that people arent able to be bored anymore. bored? instant distraction with something else. absolutely deadly for your brain

[rose vale]

The best thing I can think of is trying to read, but I suck at reading I always zone off or read the same sentence twice or more

Or just forget the second I read it

So not the greatest experience

[marsh latch]

i can recommend being bored more. you spend more time with your thoughts that way that otherwise will get to you once you go to bed

[rose vale]

Weird thing that’s probably unrelated but curious about sleep positions, I wake up sometimes and my hand is numb because I was sleeping on it or something like that, but it’s practically impossible to sleep on my back

I usually either sleep on my side or on my stomach

[marsh latch]

just tuck it under your pillow to avoid that. i have second smaller one for that because i find it uncomfortable having my hand under the big one

[rose vale]

Fair

Curious about the sugar thing because wouldn’t that be more likely to cause a crash? Also isn’t like a sudden burst of energy a myth, sugar rush I mean

[marsh latch]

in adolescent people yeah, you wont eat that amount of sugar and youre probably already used to high amounts cuz 'merica. but in little children? absolutely they are on crack then

and youre not diabetic either so no worries, sugar is still energy and fructose for example gets a tad slower broken down than the usual "refined" sugar from sugarbeets

[rose vale]

That’s understandable

[night schooner]

Hey gang long story short I think I have tennis elbow from playing any way you reduce the pain / discomfort?

[uneven ivy]

Sugar gives you energy in a biological sense. It doesn’t jolt your brain or anything like that. Just restores your depleted atp stores. Which is why sipping sugary drinks is a scientifically proven way to restore energy to your brain when studying, especially with adhd

[sturdy thorn]

rest and OTC pain meds

light stretching also

[crisp magnet]

Never had L-Theanine in my life I think and many people suggests it for aim training? What does it do and how much should I be taking per day

[rose vale]

It’s supposed to make you relaxed without tiredness, usually I take it with caffeine at a 2:1 ratio, 100mg caffeine 200mg l theanine

It’s said to smooth out the energy and cause like a balanced state of alertness with relaxation

Also said to counteract the jittery or anxious feelings from caffeine

Normal dosing is usually between 100-400mg

[remote horizon]

Aiming without an armrest feels very uncomfortable but it feels like I have a greater range of motion and thus better tracking when I do… any suggestions on how to get rid of the discomfort?

[inland lake]

If it isn't painful on your shoulder just play more and you'll get used to it

FYI armrests aren't necessarily bad

[somber scroll]

does your health even matter if your gold in like every game ever

[winter osprey]

let me give you a different view. If you are shit at running but still run for fun, do you want to get injured?

I believe you mean, that because you don't play as much you are not necessarily gonna injure yourself, which is probably true, but if you are concerned just do some stretching and you should be fihe

[somber scroll]

I didnt think about injury ngl lmao does that happen eventually

Prob will

[winter osprey]

then tbh just do some stretching. It'll only take a couple of minutes and will lessen the chances by a lot.

[somber scroll]

Noted

[winter osprey]

or you'll pay the price like me

3 weeks of no real gaming

sad times

[somber scroll]

Lmao i’ve had carpal tunnel pretty bad before

Idk if it necessarily “goes away” or just subdues but regardless i feel you

[winter osprey]

oh then pls at least stretch, maybe even do some strenching

[somber scroll]

Not from shooters honestly it was rhythm games but regardless i can still do stretches, im sure it wouldnt hurt

[winter osprey]

but at the end of the day it's still extreme stress on the wrist/fingers/arm

I wonder how muscian deal with it

[somber scroll]

True true

They dont i’ve known plenty of piano players and almost all of them had carpal tunnel

[winter osprey]

damn

[old parcel]

Yo, what can I do about sweating palm, my mouse and hands always clean and washed, but anyway it happens while training in kovaaks / playing , I have an idea to try sleeve that covers palm partly, but maybe anyone can give me a advice?

[open island]

do yk if 200 mg of both is fine too?

[rose vale]

200mg is a little much caffiene just for gaming tbh

[rich ore]

The 400mg I just blasted says otherwise

[rose vale]

chill bro

lmfao

I mean I can consume more if I want

but I already get bad withdraws despite taking 100-250 daily

[dusk sedge]

just do meth atp

[uneven ivy]

Probably mental issue

[mild ivy]

hello everyone

[severe crypt]

@wild grove

[azure glade]

i started digging in this channel and this video helped me a lot. thank you so much

[shrewd cradle]

ye i'll make a less cringe impromptu version eventually

but i can't explain with words

sometimes u need a video

[bright garnet]

@visual fiber Can you start going to the gym pls? Ur Like 5'3 215 pounds

[visual fiber]

Oh my days why is the gay Polish femboy talking

[bright garnet]

No bro

Im on estrogen

[visual fiber]

Why is the gay trans Polish femboy talking

[bright garnet]

Estrogen is the tech to get better at aiming

[reef bolt]

eA estrogen aimers

Should estrogen be a banned PED for aiming? More at 11

[dusk sedge]

piss testing when

[somber scroll]

Does a perc-30 increase performance

[dusk sedge]

HELL YEAH

[somber scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-yachty-censored-not-drake-tech-support-gif-8658410013845332703

[amber anvil]

TWIN when did u hurt ur wrist i did like 2 and a half weeks ago 💔and now for everyone i know i’m becoming a big advocate for stretching 😭

[sharp mantle]

How badly carpal tunnel affects aim? Apart from pain (only when using very high sens or bending wrist), I feel like I have less control over micros and such. Maybe it's just in my mind, but it really bothers me.

[open island]

i dont think you should be straining your wrist at all in the first place

if you already have carpal tunnel

😭

its literally just gonna get worse

im no health expert tho

[sharp mantle]

the thing is, I've returned to fps after 6 months break and didn't have carpal tunnel symptoms during these 6 months. It WAS issue before, when I was grinding, but I just stopped and carpal tunnel stopped being an issue too

now it slowly comes back tho

numbness and pain

And I dont play crazy sens like 20cm, it's just 45cm on average

[winter osprey]

exactly, I don't want anyone experience the withdrawl, I have felt

my wrist is technically still not fully healed, but who cares

[amber anvil]

yeah mine isnt either, its getting better now tho i can tell so im gonna wait until im fully healed

[amber anvil]

are you stretching before playing

[winter osprey]

like I'm fully healed for gaming, but when I do like push ups, I feel it

[amber anvil]

ah i see i see, im not fully healed for gaming yet 💔

[winter osprey]

don't worry, the path is not going to run away

[amber anvil]

yesyes

[sharp mantle]

not really

[amber anvil]

probably should start doing wrist stretches before you play, especially since you are already feeling pain, i wouldnt even play if i was you since ur feeling pain

[sharp mantle]

it's time to start my 100cm arc..

[left trout]

yes

[glossy chasm]

in #cs2 i learned i have to become smarter to practice and play more efficient, how I do it?

[alpine ether]

new intelligence maxxing method just dropped

[high moss]

Yo if im tired af should I just skip kovaaks or suffer and force myself through a playlist?

[glossy chasm]

Nah like I think they ment I should not mindless do my tasks, so question is what do you do to keep engaged in aim training or when playing

[hasty stag]

remove all distractions that you can
go into games with a goal in mind

[uneven ivy]

What do you mean carpal tunnel

[sharp mantle]

?

[uneven ivy]

Do you have a diagnosis

Do you have symptoms of carpal tunnel syndrome

[sharp mantle]

yes i do

both

[uneven ivy]

Ok well ask ur doctor what to do then

[sharp mantle]

that's not what i asked

[somber scroll]

Very btw

It affects like anything you need to do with your hands honestly

It sucks to have

Though are you straining really hard when you aim or have you just been training for a long time

[sharp mantle]

mostly time ig? i dont really strain my wrist, my hand is relaxed when i play, but sometimes you just need to flick quick very fast and yeah

i did stretches today and it helped a lot

didnt realize it

before

[hot dirge]

when youre playing, does ur keyboard wrist/lower palm touch the desk or is it floating? lately my keybaord shoulder started aching after a bit of gaming and idk why

[smoky siren]

how do people play ranked for 8+ hours without getting tired, i really wanna go pro and am commited to playing, and it's a lot of fun to improve, but i need to be no lifing the game if i want any chance, and i'm just too tired to play at my fullest, what can i do to remedy this?

[ivory basin]

is icing wrist after putting a little too much over time in a good idea?

[ivory basin]

what game?

[smoky siren]

valorant

[ivory basin]

oh alr

idk i guess like with your question like are you concerned about being too tired to focus and really improve or like whats the root of the question

[median snow]

Why do you think you need to play for 8+ hours to become pro?

[uneven ivy]

You have a medical issue and you’re bothered with hypothetical effects on video game performance

[real canyon]

By pure motivation, enjoyment, and years of built up stamina for long sessions of gaming

[smoky siren]

games been out for 5 years, people have insane amounts of hours and experience, every radiant ive spoken to has said id need to no life the game to achieve the goals i want

[hasty stag]

imo nolifing the game doesn't mean playing ranked for 8 hours, better to play less games where you're 100% locked in
rest spend on vod reviews, mechanics, util etc etc

[celest shuttle]

I’m not one to say anything but I climbed the most when I played the least, quality of games > quantity. Playing 8 hours a day will not help u improve and if anything will hinder u because ur brains not meant to stare at a screen for that long. Take breaks reflect on ur gameplay and play with intent to improve.

[green stirrup]

I play 25cm/360 in every shooter i play i aim with my wrist mostly but now my wrist hurts when i play should i go lower sens?

[celest shuttle]

Why even ask 😭 could also be ur mouse tho and if u take breaks whole u play or stretch before and after ur session. Could be a lot of different things but lower sens could help.

[burnt galleon]

i think this should go here but ive noticed that my adhd jitters affect my aim alot and cause a constant shake motion is there anything to do that since for the past few days its just been none stop

[thorn tiger]

Anyone got any tips to reduce eye strain when playing aim trainers? Everytime I play kovaaks, my eyes start to strain yet in game it feels perfectly fine.

[untold wing]

This will sound dumb, but, actually blink. Like sometimes a person can be staring / trying to focus on stuff for a long period of time without blinking, like when say, trying to read the targets' movements. But you gotta like actually blink / find times to blink if needed.

[hot dirge]

my keyboard shoulder started weirdly to fatigue so quickly in gaming sessions, it used to be my mouse shoulder but after i adjusted my chair height and everything it started to fatigue, i could like play 2 or 3 games before it starts to hurt so much, i bought this elbow rest to help it but it really didnt do anything, im really confused on what to do cuz both my arms are at around 90 degress and somewhat parallel

[shrewd cradle]

wtf is this attachment

Sit higher and scoot your chair in

[hot dirge]

lmao its basically an arm rest figured it might be the reason cuz pain started after i removed it from my chair

[shrewd cradle]

#health message

[hot dirge]

oh this is really neat it answers all my schizo questions thank u so much

but same thing eva said whenever i go to that position stability becomes really difficult

[shrewd cradle]

Define stability

I tend to sit a bit lower in the chair for clicking tasks so I can get better contact to the desk

But for tracking?

I always try to start from a high position

Then slink down as I need

[hot dirge]

moving from left to right feel really awkward in reactive scenarios always landing far from target like i have no control opposed when chair is lower

[shrewd cradle]

Reactive is kind of like clicking for me as well; my goal isn’t to say ‘you have to sit like this’, just establish a base awareness of where to start

[hot dirge]

i see then il keep lowering it lil by lil til it feels stable

[ivory basin]

what are hte basics of starting to care for / protect my wrists? my wrists have had pain before but i did some like forearm exercises, and now that ive started playing koavaaks a lot more (sometimes like 3+ housr per day) i want to take preventative measures instead of changing it up once it starts hurting

[open island]

stretch mainly

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JKKSBWXHM-V5C9gMhVFWQgsHwVLcVMgb/view

[upbeat stratus]

pills.gg

[small bear]

this guy knows what's up

[rose vale]

I have this issue whenever I put some form of tension in my jaw it pops 1 or the other ear. it makes like a gritty sound and somewhat feels like it could be liquid? they also started sometimes hurting whenever I get a headache. I only remembering it happening after a plane ride, I was told my ear drums were ruptered but I did see a doctor and said that there isn't any scarring. not sure if this is like a ETD thing or something

I probably should see a ENT but I'm curious if anyone knows or has an idea of what it might be 😭

[short wagon]

I had a shoulder injury around 7 years ago, which resulted in my right shoulder being clicky if I try to spin it 360. It could also cause the whole shoulder area to ache when I do heavy stuff like flicking (I flicked my arm once while playing table hockey and had to fix my arm for 2 days)
I tried consulting doctors but they said I can't fix it back into place, so does it affect my aim in a significant way?

[real canyon]

Sounds like TMJ

[rose vale]

ill look into it

[errant kestrel]

i get shoulder/neck pain on lower sens. any advice?

[uneven ivy]

How do you feel?

Is it just a visual thing

17 is pretty early for anything related to schizophrenia, but if you're noticing changes in your mood and alertness, you should consider seeing a dr

and if it's just a visual thing, maybe go get your eyes checked

It's never really a bad idea to see a doctor if you have sudden changes in your vision, state of mind, etc

The worst thing is that maybe you didn't have anything and you're completely healthy. And that's not really a problem

[uneven ivy]

why are you using weed

talk to a dr

[uneven ivy]

then you need to discuss it with the dr who prescribed it

[amber anvil]

erm @empty pendant

[valid tree]

ive noticed my eyes feel like they get "cross eyed" a lot when i try to kill an enemy
this only happens in games like cod btw, in battlefield ive never had this issue, same with apex or ow or whatever
idk if this is a "health" issue since it happens only in cod buy its annoying me

[lyric isle]

Usually it happens to me after I play for longer the 3 hours.

[valid tree]

it happens to me no matter how much i play

[hazy epoch]

are you doing any eye warmups

[valid tree]

no

i just play some kovaaks then hop in game

what can i do to train my eyes

[hazy epoch]

https://www.eyetrainer.gg/

[valid tree]

my eyes can also become blurry when i try to aim at a target- oh shoot

[hazy epoch]

i like to go through this once

[valid tree]

ill take a look thanks

oh ive seen this

in a meme lol

[hazy epoch]

it works

[valid tree]

ill trust you

how long should i do it everyday?

like 10-15 minutes?

[hazy epoch]

i just do it once right before i start playing

[valid tree]

bet thanks

@hazy epoch you think playing brain games can help

im trying to prevent my fast cognitive decline

[hazy epoch]

they could yeah

keeping up general health would as well

good sleep and diet

[valid tree]

Guess I gotta fix everything in my life or something like that

[static copper]

my forearm is just twitching randomly ever since i hopped on kovaaks what do i do

[subtle pebble]

why does this part of my shoulder hurt when I aim? (ik the picture shows left, but pretend it's right sided)

I'm sure this is a FAQ, sorry in advance

[hasty stag]

also whenever you're outside get used to just looking as far as you can into the distance

[open island]

yh i developed myopia cus of gaming 😭

[clever oriole]

Hi guys, can anyone help me why does my thumb hurt during playing on my mouse hand? I can provide grip pictures and stuff

[fierce zealot]

i have the same issue, its either u grip your mouse too tight or the mouse you have isnt suitable for your mouse grip/hand size

[clever oriole]

its happening even when i dont grip it tightly and it only appeared recently after changing mice but i changed from razer viper to wlmouse strider, they are almost the same shape

[valid tree]

this is interesting advice, ill keep this in mind lol

[proud sinew]

I play mostly aimtrainers nowadays so my left hand just sits there lying on my desk not even pressing but just resting on WASD and now its like easy to get fatigued when I do actually play what can I do about it?

[barren sentinel]

Hey ive recently notced ive been missclicking rightclick a lot whenever i left click as well as my fingers tend to lock in place sometimes when aim training. Anyone know anything about resolving this issue?

[open island]

play more

[proud sinew]

I guess lol

[half escarp]

lack of thoracic spine mobility

https://youtube.com/shorts/icgnTWzgw6U?si=s6XT6hYxRSfXosWL

check this out

[onyx tiger]

Hello, I get some pain at the resting part of my arm at the desk and the right side of my wrist, do someone know how to fix? I drew this red line to show more or less the spot. Also sometimes get stiff wrist

[sturdy spruce]

This is a weird one, when i put my wrist on the desk im slightly pronated so like im actually resting on the outside part of my wrist

shold I be making sure I habe full surface contact with my wrist??

in orde to do this id have to move my arm out so it twists in

[marsh latch]

Its not weird its normal dont worry

[lyric isle]

How can I stretch my left thumb if it gets sore from the spacebar after a while of playing

I know this is oddly specific but it really sucks

Wondering if anyone else has the same issue

[marsh latch]

depends on which part of your thumb muscle you wanna stretch

oh nvm i didnt read from pressing down, gimme a sec

[amber anvil]

just making sure, it’s not overuse right? cuz my thumb/wrist has been hurting for a while after i didn’t stretch and played way too much

[marsh latch]

https://1-hp.org/blog/healthy-movement/thumb-flexor-stretch/

[lyric isle]

The joint that connects the hand to the thumb

That's really all I have an issue with

I'll take a look

[clever oriole]

It shouldnt be, thats a different kind of pain for me, but I never streatch it, I think im gonna start and see if it improves

thank u a lot

[mossy flume]

when ever i push my index finger back it hurts

[shell crest]

why does my shoulder hurt when i track

[indigo seal]

anybody elses back of the hand hurt when aim training

i swear i can play for 4 hours straight but i cant do 2 straight minutes of scenarios

[rich ore]

Depending on what you play, aim usually doesn’t really constantly give constant tension

That’s usually the reasoning behind it

Specifically tac shooters

[indigo seal]

so i should probably do more controlsphere to help manage tension? i play 27cm and i find myself tightening my grip alot more when i microadjust/track slower targets rather than flicking

[rich ore]

Yeah, practice smoothness/tension control

Most people have tension issues when starting out so there’s nothing to worry about

27cm is a bit high in my opinion but others would beg to differ

[muted aurora]

my eyes hurt

[storm marlin]

Does anyone have any idea how on earth you get rid of brain fog when you're gaming

I feel like as soon as I hop into a game I get this wave of brain fog and it just overwhelms me and I cannot make decisions quick enough to save my life

[marsh latch]

proper sleep, diet, and excercise

[midnight hull]

Anybody have the PowerPoint of the effects of caffeine on your brain that was done here recently?

[uneven ivy]

Diagnosis and medication

[storm marlin]

Diagnosis of what?

[uneven ivy]

Idk

[storm marlin]

👍

[woeful iris]

Hello, excuse me for disturbing.
Has anyone here ever had severe neck tension when playing or doing aim training?
It often happens to me while I'm training and at the end of a session I can really have pain in my neck, does anyone have any information or anything like that ?
Thank you for your answer !

[marsh latch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxV-yImHXSw

[woeful iris]

Thx you so much dude, I feel my neck much less loaded and lighter
This helps me a lot, thank you so much!

[uneven ivy]

Do you have other symptoms

And what kind of brainfog

[storm marlin]

Idk like I just can’t focus on anything at all

[subtle glen]

Does anyone have any recommendations for good chairs for people who are overweight at the moment

[uneven ivy]

how do you do at school/work

[valid barn]

I was noticing recently that I was quite negatively set in life and that I was seeing alot of the negative in life.
Yesterday on a caffeinated ow2 drives run I decided to look at all the positives and fully believe in myself. I noticed significantly better results and am applying that currently in training where it's better too.

Has anyone experienced relatively the same? I am curious if this is a just me thing in aimtraining specifically

[vital shell]

Yes it makes you better supposing you take the right amount. Too much will cause jitters which might be a problem if you are doing very small precise tracking. Anyways it improves reaction time, focus, synaptic plasticity, et cetera

Only issue is you get a tolerance quickly, personally I would only take caffeine one day and then take two days off, repeat

[spring relic]

i have a pretty bad diet and keep getting junk food but i need to stop

how can i solve this

[uneven ivy]

learn how to cook

start from one dish

and a lot of vegetables

[viral galleon]

Hey guys, I feel like my setup isn’t really aligned properly, but I’m not sure what to change. I’ve got my chair set up right and it feels ergonomically fine. My adjustable desk is at about 72 cm height, but it feels like it should go a bit lower — the problem is that if I lower it more, the tabletop presses against my legs.
I’m about 1.90 m tall. Do I just have unusually long arms, or do you have any idea what I could adjust? I’ve been playing like this for a while and I’m used to it, but it feels like I could get more stability in my aim if my arm rested differently.

[untold wing]

Mindset applies to many things in life. Although, personally, I go for a zero expectation mindset (different from high or low expectation), where I just try to notice / be aware of all positive and negative things as a whole, not avoiding either.

Eventually I got used to processing negative feelings pretty quickly as well, so they don't need to linger for long.

IMHO, if you look at everything, not only looking at positives or only looking at negatives, it becomes easier to actually solve problems in life so they don't need to keep spawning negative thoughts and such.

[tender hare]

i changed my mindset and the pace i improved at increased by an unreal amount

i reached jade at about 90 hours then fixed my mindset

ended up reaching master in 100 hours and gm in 186

it really does help a lot to have a positive mindset

[candid hill]

Hey guys, I feel like I'm getting a little cold inside here. It's probably my tendons, right?

[vocal badger]

my wrist on my keyboard feels uncomfortable any1 know some fixes ( it hinders my movement by causing strain in my hands)

[compact canopy]

Put it in rice

[bronze wren]

how do I get rid of shoulder pain?? I have very good posture but idk if its from overuse or something like that.

like i have the pain in the muscle area and not rlly my bones or what not

[inland lake]

Ideally check your posture again, if your hand is constantly floating etc it puts more strain on the shoulder, exercises like https://youtu.be/rjMu52XEX0I can help build more strength and endurance

[bronze wren]

my hand is never floating and im very relaxed but idk whats causing this

ill check out the vid tho :3 tytyyy

[gloomy delta]

Besides the exercises/stretches recommended in the posture guide, does anyone have any recommendations for supplemental back exercises for posture? I have access to gym equipment and I was thinking using dumbbells for a kind of horizontal shrug at an angle on a bench might help

[hasty stag]

face pulls are generally good

what you describe is i think kelso shrug?

and u can do Y-raises

for lower traps area

[stone kiln]

hey guys! I have fibromyalgia issues that cause me a lot of pain after significantly aim training, so I need to balance my time carefully when it comes to what to train in. Any idea on a shorter alternative to VDIM?

[robust stirrup]

my wrist on my keyboard feels uncomfortable any1 know some fixes ( it hinders my movement by causing strain in my hands)

[distant vault]

try putting smth under the keyboard

[obtuse lance]

Has anybody figured out if this is a scam or not?

[hazy epoch]

yes?

[cinder phoenix]

i have a pain above my elbow on the left hand side on my right arm and weakness in my hand

also my mental sucks atm ive been stuck at the same level for like a year now

[median finch]

Hey guys, im looking for some advice for my desk setup.
I have problems off not knowing how to sit at my table.
I am constantly playing around with desk height and posture. (Somehow I still hit immortal in val)
I am 1m 85cm tall and sit with my knees at a 90 degrees angle.
Currently my desk sits at a height of 81 cm.
Would love to her some advice / tipps on what I might be doing wrong / can do better!

[marsh latch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxV-yImHXSw

[median finch]

ty

[robust stirrup]

hey guys! I have fibromyalgia issues that cause me a lot of pain after significantly aim training, so I need to balance my time carefully when it comes to what to train in. Any idea on a shorter alternative to VDIM?

[vital shell]

just lower the amount of times you do each task and cut out the ones that aren’t variants of benchmark tasks if you’re trying to improve on benchmarks

[uneven ivy]

focus on tension management and ergonomics

[signal flame]

Whats the general approach to tension management i want to hold the mouse firmly enough to have some accuracy when i hold it loose its harder

[bronze wren]

how do i fix neck pain?? I lwky got rid of my shoulder pain now my neck hurt ;c

[marsh latch]

https://tenor.com/view/nod-basically-homeless-move-head-pull-gym-gif-26716093

jk

https://tenor.com/view/cable-face-pulls-gif-18253055505570849655

for example

[bronze wren]

DEADAHH???

BET

[marsh latch]

on my left foot i bet

[crystal stream]

You can simply divide VDIM into segments (i personally do them by 2/3rds when I need to divide) and train at your pace

[crystal stream]

permanent or after movement/a training session/bad posture? and which part hurts

[bronze wren]

lwky permanant idk why ;c

[robust stirrup]

Put it in rice

[uneven ivy]

You have 0 tension when you practice. No firmness at all

Do the opposite of what you’re doing right now

[signal flame]

I tried that and my accuracy gets cooked

And even then there’s little shakage like the shaking doesnt go away its frustrating

[uneven ivy]

that's why you're supposed to practice

[uncut barn]

Hello why my hand hurting at that red circled spot I'm concerned it's been 2 days

I was riding my moped 2 days ago and when I got home it start to hurt, I tried to hop on aim training and its hurt much when I'm turning my mouse into left side with my wrist

[crystal stream]

if it's the back of your neck it's probably bad posture, check monitor height, shrugged shoulders and neck support and also your pillow, then check back in a couple days

If it's a side and the pain's getting better over time it's probably just strain from a bad move, throw an NSAID gel at it but if the pain's not getting better i'd suggest seeing a specialized doctor since it could be tendinitis that needs proper treatment

[bronze wren]

now my deltoids hurt ;c my neck dont hurt no more wtf man

I CANT HAVE A NORMAL PAINLESS EXPERIENCE

i have to play on controller rn man </3

[crystal stream]

Arms too far from your torso probably

[bronze wren]

is it supposed not supposed to be flared out a bit?? like completely aligned with ur shoulder or somethin

[crystal stream]

flared out?
It's supposed to be a little spread not stuck to your torso of course but not so spread out that you can feel your deltoids stretching

[bronze wren]

it goes out a little bit, not much at all- like im not WINGING it yk??

[crystal stream]

table too high?

[bronze wren]

it feels normal, like rn my deltoids hurt like fkin hell rn

😭

[crystal stream]

might wanna stop playing then and relax for a bit, throw an ice pack at it and see tomorrow

your posture's fine based on this pic

[bronze wren]

i mean do I be playing every damn day tbh 😭 I lwky cant do anything else but play on roller atm lolol

could overuse be a problem too? idk cuz i've never rlly felt this kinda pain tbh

[crystal stream]

Take a break mate, this doesn't sound like posture pain it could be tendinitis and you might wanna get that checked tomorrow if it doesn't go away. For now just use an ice pack and an NSAID gel if you ahve one

[bronze wren]

its been going on for like 3 days now but like my dumbass still on kovaaks 😭💔 but i'll take a break for sure-

[lunar ridge]

Could be rsi

[elfin moat]

i had the same issue but on both sides for almost 2 years , Started Lifting weight/Strength training and within 1 week the issue was gone completely

[inland pawn]

Is having a tilted wrist in your resting position not recommended or a never do thing?

[robust stirrup]

focus on tension management and ergonomics

[rotund oriole]

Put it in rice

[ocean panther]

You can simply divide VDIM into segments (i personally do them by 2/3rds when I need to divide) and train at your pace

[uncut barn]

Ooh I see

Thanks

[cinder phoenix]

I’ll ask again because I didn’t get an answer last time, so I have a pain on the back on my hand in the middle weakness in my hand in general, and my fingers constantly shake like tremors I can’t stop when I straighten them, and after aim training i get a like a nerve thing above my elbow on the right hand side which shoots to my pinky?

[elfin moat]

People here will only be able to speculate, Take a couple days break and go and see a doctor

[cinder phoenix]

fair enough mate ill do just that ty

[uneven ivy]

probably a stuck nerve or some shit, do stretches and if it doesn't go away, see a dr

and stop death gripping ur mouse

[robust stirrup]

table too high?

[cinder phoenix]

@uneven ivydoes feel like a stuck nerve bro amma go see a doctor about it and i dont death grip either so thats what i was confused about ygm

[wraith musk]

whats a good chair i can get for under 200$?

[strong blaze]

i have this issue that when i try to make micro adjustments my wrist just cant move and control my sens which was .175 1600dpi valorant
and i think its probably cause of a physical problem
im underweight and physically weak
im 5,7 with 44kgs and when i move my joints in my body it feels like yk when something gets rusty it has that stuttering kinda feeling to it
that kind of feeling i get when i move my arm my wrist my joints in my whole body like they are rusted idk how to explain it properly and i switched to lower sens cause of this issue
i have been struggling with smoothing my aim too i have tried everything but my aim is not getting fixed cause i cant move my wrist smoothly it’s stuttering like micro adjusting in small pixels kinda
its not smooth
what should i do in order to fix this issue
please help

[viscid phoenix]

bulk 🙂 healthier aimers are better aimers

[strong blaze]

any quick solutions?

or any exercises or anything

[iron nest]

Start going to the gym, makes you feel better too

Try playing more control tracking too I guess

And not tensing your hands because that's probably the issue

[strong blaze]

should i change my sens?

like lower it?

[iron nest]

I genuinely don't think sens matters

Anything between 0.12 and 0.2 1600 is perfectly fine and definitely not what's holding you back

If your micros are weak, just focus on training them

Just grind tsk smoothness and control tracking

[livid latch]

how do i deal with shoulder strain after ~30 mins? it’s really tanking my ability to aim, and it’s not like i play super low sens (usually 20-50cm)

for context, i usually sit very close to my desk (stomach touching table).
my arms are splayed out a little and most of my arm on the desk (except for elbow and a bit of arm). arms are mostly straight on desk (right arm curves very slightly to the left).
i also lean slightly inwards when aiming.

kinda sit similarly to aspas in the image attached, with my arm being much more straight and leaning in further (monitor is further back)

[hazy epoch]

are your shoulders shrugged up

[kindred galleon]

if its the front of your shoulder that hurts, try having your head up high and more in line with your back. It'll straighten your posture and let your shoulders not rotate inside and compress the muscles

[livid latch]

i think its more on the top of my shoulder, but i will def try this out

[kindred galleon]

try lowering the desk/raising the chair then

[livid latch]

i have my desk about as low as i can and my chair up (chair about 45cm, desk at 65 cm), could it be that my arm is too far forward/out of line with my torso?

or could be a need to stretch/strengthen muscles is what im thinking

[kindred galleon]

Top of shoulder hurts whrn your arm rests too high up

[livid latch]

weird, my desk cant really go lower than this cause the frames in the way, using a flexispot e7 if that matters

[kindred galleon]

Try resting your head on the headrest of ylur chair while playing

Learn to feel when your head dips down then, and get it back up 🤷

[hazy epoch]

@summer trout so many bots in here...

[summer trout]

bruh this again?

[hazy epoch]

they pop out like roaches

weird bots as well just copying old messages

[fringe reef]

Idk if anyone here are experts but as someone who experience migraines that mimic stroke while these nasty episodes can affect alot of things why don't they affect my ability to play at high levels while it feels like my head feels like it weighs like a car i just have no issues at all playing video games

You know it would be nice on what people's thoughts on why this isn't affected

[kindred galleon]

are those migraines showing up randomly, or during exercise ?

[shrewd latch]

there's this needle prick sensation that feel between my thumb and palm

is that bad? i googled it showed me that could be carpel's tunnel

the needle thing's happening everytime i do long tracking with my arm

[hybrid tusk]

what do you guys thing the cause of pain in the yellow-ish green and grey area on the left side of my back could be?

[stark citrus]

Arthritis in my right wrist

Any aides?

[fringe reef]

They're something i live with my diagnosis is migraines with aura, intractable

[robust parrot]

From carrying your team too much

on a serious note, you could be retracting your scapula abit (hunching) or tensing in that area

[sterile snow]

Who use this Here aimers ?

[robust parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-try-not-to-laugh-gif-7682731162751353849

[median sierra]

How much wrist pain is normal? Is that a sign to take a break? I just started doing the VDIM little more than a week ago and usually my wrist is a bit sore by the end, but I just started today and it's already sore

[kindred galleon]

Okay this is not posture related, i'm not going to be of any help

[open island]

0 from my experience

[blissful scarab]

Anyone got chair recommendations? I’m decently tall 183cm but I’m very skinny and none of the chairs I have had can adjust armrests to the proper width and have the backing at the proper height, I got back issues and the fact I can’t ever have proper support when I play is making it so I have to stop playing and I really don’t want to

[brisk shuttle]

imo it's normal to feel some strain after long sessions especially when training everyday, but if it's pain then yeah that is a sign to take a break

But it really depends on where your pain is and by what it's caused so

[inland lake]

what was wrong with the armrests? Too wide apart?

[blissful scarab]

yh and my backing has bad adjustments where i can only lock it too far back or too much to the front so i cant ever rest my back 😭

takes a lot out of me to play even one game like this and i really wanted to push for asc this act but i cant sit properly on ts and my doctor told me its gonna be bad if i dont so i might need to quit if i cant find something better

feels like all the shit i do at therapy is insta undone after even an hour sitting in this chair bro

ive been just putting up with it for the past couple of months but i cant anymore

[inland lake]

what kind of chairs have you been trying, for armrests I can definitely recommend looking for 4d adjusting next, I'd assume most okayish chairs would do okay with the back support/adjustment

[blissful scarab]

I’ve only rlly had office chairs and ikea office chairs because I never had my own money to spend before until recently, but they weren’t completely cheap still very bad tho

Honestly I don’t know where to look for chairs that are decent quality at all bc my current one was like 400 dollars (if u convert currency) but the back adjustments are bad and don’t fit me at all same with arm rests 😭 closest they go is too far for me by a lot

[inland lake]

Ideally you'd check out local chair stores, try them out and see, last time I was researching chairs I went over a bunch of btodtv tier lists so I can recommend that

[blissful scarab]

Sadly not really a thing where I live

I mean there are stores with chairs just not ones that specifically sell them and never many options lol

[inland lake]

You're in EU?

[blissful scarab]

Poland yeah

Closest thing to a chair store I’ve seen is bodzio meble lol

My mother said she could let me see the guy who she buys chairs from for her work but she said they’re not very comfortable so idk

[inland lake]

Try to checking out btodtv to see what you think are good chairs that also fit your budget, you might find a polish shop that can simply ship it from another city, even across EU is okay, offeco even offers some refurbished options

[blissful scarab]

Okay will do, thank you

[brittle lake]

I've been grinding hard on kovaaks and valorant for about a week and a half now, and i woke up yesterday with a pain in my thumb when i move my wrist to the max it can go (left and right) and it hasnt gone away. when I play the pain isnt there but when i pick up something it tends to have pain (i dont use my wrist much in my grip/aim style). I wondered if anyone had any idea of possible reasons/fixes I can attempt to do.

[gloomy delta]

This is a while later, but thanks for the advice and naming Kelso shrugs, it's been helpful

[hoary basalt]

look up mattyow wrist exercise videos

[static knot]

Look 1 hp's free wrist pain guides, helps me alot

[brittle lake]

actually tysm, found an exercise that targets the exact part of the hand i need it to.

i appreciate it

[static knot]

All thanks to 1hp, i find it really helpful as it gives exercises based on the part of the hand not just overall exercises

[tame marten]

Is the wrist area where a watch would sit meant to touch the pad ive been having pain as i push it down because it lifts upwards off the pad but I pivot there just trying to stop the pain i get

[carmine zephyr]

?

where can i find it

[static knot]

Search on google 1hp free wirat pain guide

[carmine zephyr]

yeah ty bro

[hoary basalt]

mattyow has videos on wrist exercises, you should do those

[naive dagger]

@fluid marsh can you help here?

[static knot]

You shouldn't push it hard, you should just drop it naturally

[fair grove]

is there any way i can tell if wrist pain is coming from aimimg or from gym

[high moss]

when i just get on and warmup my hands are extremely shaky its hard to aim. Sometimes it will continue throughout the day. What could it be? I don't drink caffeinated drinks

[hazy epoch]

@summer trout

atomize

[bronze kite]

Hi i did 1 hour on kovaak trying viscose benchmarks, now my 4th and 5th fingers hurt. I always warmup my hands before playing but that was like 4hours before playing kovaaks. Any tips on how to avoid this?

[fallen jackal]

You'll get stronger the more you do it💪

[spare summit]

probably a long shot but does anyone else have an Intraocular lens in their left or right eye?

[inland dew]

take breaks

[high kernel]

dont summon satan or whtever

[spare summit]

what

[high kernel]

what u js wrote sounded like an incantation

[mint rock]

Anybody know why my upper arm feels tired after 1 match of overwatch?

It constantly feels tired even tho I’m not on super low sens (30cm/360). I make sure most of my forearm is on the table and make sure my posture is straight

[deep pecan]

This used to happen to me a crazy ton, it could be a lot of different things but in my personal case it was a combination of chest tightness that lead to overactive trap engagement in the opposite arm and that lead to constant shoulder->long bicep head activation which would constantly fatigue my arm when aim training, i recommend doing some research on internal and external rotation shoulder benchmarks and see if you lack in any of those departments too

[hazy epoch]

just sounds like an excessive amount of tension is being used

[mint rock]

Probably, I'm still getting used to arm aiming (since the 26th) so I'm conscious when using it every time I'm on the game

[golden sentinel]

hey guys question going in an unusual direction

have u guys noticed aim training affecting real life hand eye coordination? particularly catching and throwing stuff

[shrewd latch]

hi, when i play this (KovaaKsMountingBurntorangeCashdrop) scenario, everytime i track from right to left, the slightest movement of my wrists causes a sharp needle prick in my wrists, idk why this is happening, it started 2 weeks ago.

[violet swan]

u prolly need to do wrist exercises or go to the docter if this does not work

[static knot]

@tulip notch

I wanted to ask if i need to do stretching or endurance exercises of wrist even i don't feel pain or can i skip them?

[uneven ivy]

yes to both

[static knot]

Do both?

[uneven ivy]

yes

[vocal verge]

i think this counts as a health question so my vision is pretty bad and im currently waiting for my updated lenses for my perscription but every time ive been aim training im really having trouble focusing on targets without it becoming really blurry kinda? or like i start to get rlly bad triple vision do i js ditch aim training until i get my new lenses or is there any way to still like improve my scores without straining the fuck out of my eyes

and its not like something that gets worse over time its just every time i get on i like, struggle really bad focusing on targets without it straining or feeling weird

also im kinda scared that when i do get my new lenses im gonna be like permanently stuck in progress? cause my eyesight has gotten worse over the past like 6 months ive had my current glasses

[obsidian comet]

Probably best to ask your optometrist about the focusing issues. Im assuming youre a bit younger if your eyes are progressively getting worse. Don't train too long past when you notice your focusing issues, strain will not help your decline in vision. Spend at LEAST 30 minutes outside WITHOUT your glasses on, supposedly this can help slow down prescription progression. Im not entirely sure if thats true though, but an older optometrist told me this years ago

I dont see why a new prescription would hinder your progress though.

i would also play around with monitor brightness, distance from your monitor and things like that to try and manage eye fatigue

[vocal verge]

tbh i was thinking about it cuz my optometrist told me that my vision will get worse into my early 20s so thats kinda what i meant

[obsidian comet]

Depends at the rate your vision is declining now, but it will usually slow down around 20's late teens. at least it did for me

[vocal verge]

but yeah ill try that i lowkey need to stop using such high brightness on most of my devices anyways😭

[vocal verge]

its pretty bad im ngl

like i didnt think my vision got much worse but

[obsidian comet]

Yeah, look i dont think blue light or eye strain itself will speed up much of a decline as far as im aware theres conflicting studies etc but its still good to manage these things especially if your eyes lose focus and strain anyways. If youve told your eye doctor about the focusing stuff im sure it will be all sorted in ur new prescription

[vocal verge]

i mean like they didnt really tell me about ways to reduce eye straining so i was like super worried i was gonna feel like this way about looking at my monitor forever

[gusty elk]

Does anyone know how to deal with eyes stinging while aim training? I used to be good to go just applying some dry eye eye drops which definitely helped me out a bunch but now it seems like not even those are working anymore. I've tried various solutions online, like messing with my monitors settings, washes, compresses and so on, but nothing seems to be working. It's definitely been impacting my grinding lately

[analog fjord]

take a break from the screen. Move your head away from the monitor and do eye exercises to give your eyes a rest. The best solution in your case would be to go to the doctor.

[unkempt shard]

Is it normal for your aim to get worse after heavy lifting even two days after the fact?

[final hedge]

Do you guys think you aim better when you build more muscle? I remember seeing a thing where the more fat you are the more smoother you can aim but the more skinny the more shakey, but I ask dis because all of the best aimers like Hauntr, and Zell are super jacked in my opinion! I mean it would make sense but I am interested on your guys thoughts!

[hasty stag]

i mean being healthy definitely helps

can't really tell if muscle itself does

the best static player rn is mega jacked but mattyow(best overall) i wouldn't say is..

[cunning heath]

Ever since i got back into aim training ive been getting these random short stinging pains on the areas highlighted in the picture every couple minutes and its kind of weird.. Anyone know what this is and how i could fix it?. I also feel them on the other side mainly on the Forearm, Kind of hindering my scores

[obsidian comet]

Having more muscle can allow for more fine motor control, less fatigue etc. So its possible that the stronger and bigger you are musculature wise that it could benefit your aim. But to what extent , would depend on the person and what their starting point was to begin with. If you started while already muscular, the benefits of getting even bigger would probably be 0. But if you were super skinny or super overweight, it might have more of an effect.

[tidal sorrel]

deifnitely not, no, however, cognitive benefits from cardiovascular exercise have been proven for some time & overall better blood flow and such probably helps, especially long term

the primary thing proven from cardiovascular exercise (anything that gets the heart pumping) has to do with memory

i believe studies are on better long term brain support & some others are on doing cardio around some 'learning session'

[final hedge]

I do notice when I do Cardio and then play I play better!

[final hedge]

Thanks oyu! :)

[tidal sorrel]

strange how it works, iirc it has been proven to have preventative properties for memory deterioration

[final hedge]

Wat is Memory deterioration? I feel like I think I know wat you mean because when I talk to somebody after running in Cardio I feel like I don't remember wat they said especially if they said their name!

[tidal sorrel]

basically memory loss due to aging, long term

in terms of short term, ive found the difficulty of the run determines how primed for learning i feel lmfao

if im gassed beyond my limits and require time to recover my breaths and such, you best believe i am not primed to learn

i believe the learning boost around the time you learn is less proven than the long term memory things

[obsidian comet]

i wouldn't say definitely not, but i do agree in the sense that its not a reason to gain muscle/be healthier as the benefits are probably so miniscule over other benefits like you mentioned which are much more helpful

[tidal sorrel]

the part that would be important would just be the process of gaining muscle (nutrition, sleep, etc) rather than the muscle itself really

[obsidian comet]

Yep forsure

[ocean token]

any help would be appreciated

[rose vale]

why do I feel like its hard to stop tensing once I notice I was tensing? do I have like carpal tunnel or something my wrist gets tired so easily

[ocean token]

same my man

[lone phoenix]

Lowering tension once it is accumulated is a skill in and of itself. Might be worth to practice it specifically during a run if you feel yourself getting close to locking out over score farming for that run. Also might be over using wrist? Hard to say without more info

[rose vale]

yea I don't really know how to explain it, I even notice it outside of aiming like when I'm writing

[lone phoenix]

Hmm. Yea, outside my knowledge unfortunately. Prolly worth mentioning to your doctor next time u have a check up or something. If there’s no pain it shouldn’t be too scary? 1hp has some wrist exercises I believe, could be worth a shot

[rose vale]

its not really pain, just fatigue and maybe some sort of pressure in my wrists, I can try that though.

the weird thing is it only happened once I quit aim training for a bit, I didn't have it before. Once I came back I just had perm terrible tension management. I went to the doctor at one point maybe a month or 2 ago and he did some weird ass tests to see if I felt any pain or anything and he basically just said its most likely overuse of the wrist

although I havent been aim training hard or anything like that ever since I stopped

[rose vale]

one thing I noticed is that wrist exercises cause my aim to be super shaky after

[lone phoenix]

That is definitely fatigue. I usually play some other more chill game before aimtraining after the gym if I work arms

[rose vale]

I mean I barely have done anything today lol

[hasty stag]

wrists are delicate muscles so imo it makes sense even if it was light exercise

[rose vale]

yea that's fair, but its almost an everyday thing. I notice it more when aimtraining obviously because that's way more demanding but it still happened even after I stopped for 1-2 months

once i start tensing in a task, its really hard for me to figure out how to stop, like what it feels like to stop tensing

[lone phoenix]

Honestly don’t know any tips for wrist tensing. My tension management isn’t really at that level yet. Untensing large muscles like in the arm or more lengthy members like the fingers are a bit easier. Arm is pretty naturally just flexing and fingers is detensed by kind of “letting go” of the mouse or arching my fingers more if I’m really super tense (I use fingertip grip btw)

[rose vale]

Yea im not really sure, its hard for me to tense anything BUT the wrist, and whenever i start tensing it feels like i cant stop

I honestly have no idea though like it’s super hard to explain how it feels and stuff 😭

[lone phoenix]

Post #1153030249198669884 and hope a better player can take a look lol

[visual quest]

Now I know why I get sever pain from playing games.

[hasty stag]

this is a CRAZY angle

[visual quest]

I kinda posted this in frustration, but you made me laugh. It is pretty suggestive 😅

[edgy ivy]

Can someone help me figure out why gaming is causing me serious back and knees pain?

[scenic coral]

how are we supposed to know digitally

[rose vale]

Does anyone else find them selves loosing focus and just everything becoming blurry sometimes

[tribal stratus]

Move gang don't sit too long

[edgy ivy]

Is there a channel without rage baiters that might be able to help me?

[lone phoenix]

This vid might help, knee pain is a weird one tho https://youtu.be/dxV-yImHXSw?si=Y-V-a4FIfYhAJKL4

[hasty stag]

we need some details can't help without em

like back pain seems pretty obvious that it's from too much sitting?

but knees no clue

gaming isn't any more straining than just sitting in a chair for these

[stuck radish]

Developing some pain in the top side of my wrist and middle of the hand, any good stretches? Ive looked up some on YT, and Ive been doing them, but the pain in my wrist isn't going away. The pain isn't unbearable and I would rate it like a 2/10 with being a chronic 3/10 at the very worst, I just dont want it to develop into something worse

[rose vale]

Besides being typically cheaper per dose, are there any other useful benefits of caffeine pills over something like an energy drink?

[uneven ivy]

Caffeine pills are not useful

Neither are energy drinks

[rose vale]

Elaborate?

[cedar fable]

I really struggle with eye fatigue over the course of a single challenge. Any tips for handling that?

I have to put mental effort in coordinating my blinks when strafes start so I can blindly follow until I can see properly

This is particularly noticeable on challenges like Controlsphere Far, Far Larger 90%, while statics are easier because I can reset my eyes during flicks

[tidal sorrel]

no, not particularly, no

many people on the fitness side of things utilize caffeine pills for cost efficiency, the only notable difference there is you'd miss out on a handful of the other ingredients energy drinks put in them (usually something with less study-backed data than caffeine anyways) but truthfully, even then, they're all under dosed amounts of those things anyways

[crude laurel]

i mean post in advice im not to sure and it could be your posture diet health idk

[dusk bison]

move around more

[blissful mist]

i get wrist pain easy. once of my favorite and most relieving stretches I do is pull my thumb straight back along it's natural path (what feels the most comfortable) and stretch it far back, then hold it brielfy. This is the singular most helpful styretch i've personally found.

Next i do my fingers, sometimes one at a time, sometimes grouped together 2 fingers at a time. Same stretch as thumb.
Last i push alll my fingers at the same time, essentially my wrist, back. Then do some wrist circles and it feels so much better aftrer that (at least for several more scens before it gets tight again)

[rose vale]

should my back be against the back of the chair? whenever I do I can't really touch the ground with my feet though.. but then I feel too short and I can't lower my desk height

I think my chair is just terrible for this its a cheap one and doesn't feel like it has much support lmao

idrk how to like arch the bottom of my back, I get confused about that the most

[hasty stag]

it should be a natural position, same as if you were just standing

[rose vale]

Yea idk man 😭

It feels impossible unless I actually had someone with me irl showing

Looking at videos don’t help because I can’t feel what they feel and can’t really look at how I’m sitting

[hasty stag]

i mean ur chair should already have a curve

[rose vale]

Kinda but it seems to like bend back too much

[severe fern]

do ppl use the back of the chair? I can't move my arm back at all if I do

[stoic ember]

has anyone here dealt with rsi? if so what were the onset symptoms

cause i’ve had a minor pain in my wrist and stiffness that’s been slowly building over the last month and it’s pretty hard to ignore now lol

I think i’m increased risk as well cause i aim train a lot and my job involves repetitive movements of the wrist / lifting

am i cooked

[hushed oak]

Mild discomfort and/or soreness, tingling, numbness or stiffness are the early symptoms.

Probably should see a doctor if you can.

[static knot]

Is bending middle finger necessary during control tracking? I recently tried the clover's grip and some air scenarios and i also implemented higher tensions and i noticed mild pain in my thumb joint after it. I don't know what has caused it

[inland lake]

not necessary at all no

[robust bough]

might be good to get some strength training in

any type of exercise tbh

[fair iron]

idk if you're issue is fixed but my friend had this issue, minus the knee. He had really bad chronic lower back pain, mind you this guy is pretty physically fit. Culprit was his chair! We found out after I hung out at his place and I sat in his gaming chair for 1 hour and I had to go through 1 night of lower back pain. So maybe your chair or something in your setup is compromising your posture and causing pain.

[edgy ivy]

I also think it's my chair because I just recently purchased it but I genuinely don't know what's wrong with it

All I know, is ever since I got this chair my upper back, and behind my knees are in horrible pain

[fair iron]

GG unlucky you might have to change chairs or make adjustments to ur chair 🫡

Just to make sure I'd also sacrifice a friend or someone you know to sit in your chair for like 1 hour

[edgy ivy]

So after purchasing this chair I really don't have any extra money to spend to buy another one. I was kinda hoping someone could help me figure out what's wrong with it and maybe I could find a cheaper solution

Like I've tried placing pillows behind my back

[fair iron]

I see 🤔 I'm gonna guess btw that your new chair is an upgrade from the old one. Well I did a little research (like 5 mins) and stumbled on this thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/OfficeChairs/comments/1bepyqu/new_ergonomic_chair_seems_to_cause_more_pain/

Assuming 1) Ur posture is "fine"( as in you don't look like a 🦐 when you sit), 2) this chair is really new( purchased less than 2 weeks ago ), and 3) Your upper back doesn't have any issues. Then maybe the pain ur experiencing is just ur body getting used to a new gaming posture!? So maybe u gotta play the painful waiting game.

btw I'm no expert I'm just throwing out ideas 😭

[kindred galleon]

It absolutely isn't necessary. Your fingers should rest with the least ampunt of effort and tension possible at any time on your mouse

[static knot]

Yes, i noticed that its a technique issue and not a finger placement issue and i am training my fingers. Also i am doing the exercises by 1hp and it helped me a lot of reduce the stiffness after i aim trained

I've ordered a finger resistance band and i will also train finger endurance with that

[scenic coral]

relatable

i used to have a chair with wheels but it felt unstable for my back

so i used a chair that had no wheels

[kindred galleon]

Start with much less sets/reps than you'd think

The range between fiber strengthening and fiber injury is mighty thin

[kindred galleon]

Wish i could lock the wheels on my Embody

[rose gale]

Has anyone else dealt with full body acne, like acne everywhere including the neck back ears legs calves pelvic region etc, like I’m not unhygienic I shower everyday and I make sure to drink at least 3L of water a day but I’m unsure how to treat this properly. For my face at least I use niacinimide and salicylic acid but the rest yeah no clue

[static knot]

Thanks for that ♥

[kindred galleon]

Everyone uses those at my climbing gym, and everyone fucks at least one finger up bc of that, they add fatigue on already damaged fingers, usually one or two just give up

[static knot]

How much reps ypu recommend per day and when to progress

[kindred galleon]

at first, only 1x15 or 2x10 per hour or so

after like 5 sets you'll have done enough for the day

only once you have great stamina you can build up serious numbers

[leaden turret]

guys after aim training I feel like my fingers are getting stiff and hurting, can you recommend any stretching?

[kindred galleon]

1. Physically warm up before aim training (pistol squats, knuckles to the ground, pushups, whatver you like)
2. Play with less tension. You could be Bronze or GM, this advicd works at any skill range. Achieveing the same score woth less tension than before is absolutely an improvement.
3. For stretches, ideally you'd do those before, during and after playing. Short list for fingers :

• clench the fingers as tight as they'll go, but dont engage the thumb. Roll the fingies as small as it'll go, for about 20-30s. Repeat a few times if you feel lile your hands are still cold.
• hold your arm steady, grab a thumb with your other hand and bring it towards your face for 30s.
• only do this one if you're comfortable w it, but place your fingers on the side of a table (i'side part of the fingers against the countertop) and walk up to the edge of the table/lift your wrists or elblws while kepping the fingers pressed down for 10-30s.

[leaden turret]

think you it feel better

[tribal raft]

hey I just did my viscose benchmark today like the whole 36 scenarios, and for some reason the area around my wrist feels hurtful. Im not new to aim training and am kind of used to to training for an hour or longer when Im not playing any other game that specific day. I need some help regarding how I can ease up this pain and is it normal? if not then what I should be doing differently. I am aware I dont do tension management properly and am working on it

[kindred galleon]

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[cunning moon]

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[kindred galleon]

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[static knot]

In the past few days i noticed tenderness in my thumb's tendon. I haven't changed anything in my training. I wonder why it is happening.

[kindred galleon]

Are you using claw grip ?

[static knot]

Yes i use claw grip

[kindred galleon]

Nailed it.

Use less arch in your thumb, and if possible don't press as hard into your mouse.

Ideally the thumb is in line with the wrist, not pressed down

[static knot]

Hmm i noticed it also andwas thinking to apply it next time i play

Thanks

[uneven ivy]

Too much tension

[kindred galleon]

Play for shorter sessions

[keen flicker]

does anyone know anything about chlorine dioxide (ClO2)?

[kindred galleon]

You wanna bleach your house ?

[spark quarry]

@amber anvil

[glad sequoia]

Is shifting my grip (subconsciously) during a scenario, particularly during TSing a sign of a mouse that’s too small? I have long slender fingers and a pretty large palm and use a op18k. I also notice pain inbetween my pinky and ring finger at times

[real canyon]

if your grip shifts, try using more tension on your fingertips to lock the mouse into place

[glad sequoia]

my hand generally js feels cramped with the mouse

[keen flicker]

more than that.

[keen flicker]

that's due to you putting isolated clamp force on your tendons trying to hold the mouse with fingers. a lot of grip finding comes after many hours of constant playtime so your body/brain automatically will find a position where nothing hurts, the least effort to do so. where it feels "natural"

at the beginning of your session you'll go in high intensity and consciously do everything to acquire the competitive highground. alas, it will hurt places where you put the most stress on

[glad sequoia]

ive put 70h into kovaaks now, and many many more in aiming as a whole so sounds odd to me

[golden panther]

just got a standing desk. what height should I have it set to ?

[hasty stag]

so you have a 90 degree angle at the elbow

and can move your arm around planted without having too much weight on it

[kindred galleon]

Most likely your fingerd are too long flr the little space in on the curve of the OP1. Try gripping further back, more like Ftip

[dusk bison]

no

id say the opposite

a good mouse you should be able to adapt your grip depending on the situation and it should still feel natural

[glad sequoia]

well it causes my pinky and ring finger knuckle lots of pain after a bit of time

sort of sharp

[edgy canyon]

guys is it possible that i have a hand tremor if i cant eat a soup with a spoon?

how to fix 🥲

[kindred galleon]

Get a doc to prescibe you a ct scan, or rmi

Electromyogram, radiography of the shoulders, etc

Anything to spot what's wrong with your hands and the chain

[edgy canyon]

that sounds expensive af icl

thanks for the help

advice*

i ll go figure out if i can get this covered by public healthcare

[kindred galleon]

yeah depends on your country unfortunately

[hot dirge]

i have a genuine question, do u guys ever play without pain? like can you go on a 3 hour sessions without feeling anything on ur back or shoulder from the first 30 mins? i get fatigued pretty quickly even tho ive been with a physical therapist for 4 months and i never got any better, and ive been having this pain for like 4 years that i forgot the feeling of playing with no pain

[wind lion]

Pain free my brudda, something must be wrong and that pt guy must be scamming you, I would find a different guy

[hot dirge]

its a 2nd pt and all gave me same diagnoses, unlucky i guess

[unborn jay]

I'm in kinda desperate situation atm, I already started playing a lot more casually and stopped aim training (do it only once in a while \ after a long break) but my wrist strains way too fast atm. It also clicks a lot at this bone part.
To be more precise, I have some pain at this wrist bone part on pinky side and overall have "strain" feeling at top side of wrist, like it's tired out, even after I played for like 30 minutes.
I tried multiple strengthening exercises, stretches ect. I switched from viper mini to thorn, it helped a lot, but didn't fix it. I tried to place my hand different ways (closer\further from body, pin wrist to mousepad or hold it slightly above). Changing desk height.
But sadly nothing yet helped to fix it. I even start to feel that strain when I'm not playing but just simply working and holding mouse for a day.

If someone has any idea if that can be fixed somehow, I will appreciate it.

[mild jay]

idk if u are athletic or strong but I had similar problems until I just went to the gym and I came back to it and no pain what so ever. I do stretches and strengthening exercises since im more serious about aim training now but it should not be giving bad pain

[worn summit]

I often have back pain, specifically in my right shoulder blade. I've had this for over a year, only when I play aim trainers for extended periods. I recently realized that I unconsciously raise my shoulder during these sessions, and this, combined with my hunched posture while playing because I use a chair without a backrest, contributes to the problem. I don't know if this applies to you, but personally, it helps to sit up straighter and try to lower my shoulder as soon as I notice it rising. I hope this helps.

[glad sequoia]

Anyone else have migraines that could get triggered by playing too much Kovaaks or an otherwise aim trainer

[unborn jay]

I'm go to gym 2-3 times a week, sadly doesn't help. And for me it's not even aim training giving pain, but just playing :E

[high kiln]

is iit normal for a strained wrist/arm after static grinds

[kindred galleon]

I woumd point at lack of sports or exercise during the week, no stretches before your gaming sessions, and or no pauses during that sessions

And that's assuming you have perfect posture, which is unlikely for anyone

[hot dirge]

im honestly thinking my posture is pretty bad, i sometimes slouch when i get too locked in the game but i try my best to stay upright.

also did an MRI and turns out i have a tendinitis on my rotator cuff and thats probably from my posture aswell, gotta fix it asap.

[undone peak]

I want to try Rhodiola rosea has anyone tried it before and how did you find it?

[kindred galleon]

have been using it for the last 7 years

will not go away from my cupbaord, it's great

[undone peak]

exactly what i wanted to hear, thank you for that.

ive heard about a bunch of people having major benefits from it so going to hop on the train and see how it goes

[kindred galleon]

i absolutely adore Siberian Eleuthero alongside it, great xhen your sleep isnt at its best

[undone peak]

absoloutely perfect considering ive just been up for 30 hours

almost 30 i beleive its just under 26

[undone peak]

do you have a specific brand of the eleuthero you use?

[kindred galleon]

nootropicsdepot for everything

[undone peak]

perf, thanks!

[uneven ivy]

put your ass as deep into the chair as it goes

and make sure your back has contact with the backrest as often as possible, with as much surface area, so your back is actually resting on it

If you want to be in a forward position, just bring your chair closer to the table and make sure your backrest is at the most forward angle

[hot dirge]

unfortunately my chair if i put my back on the backrest i would be sitting like this _

the only way i can have my back with a normal spine curvature |_ is me forwarding myself and maintaining it while being conscious about it, thats what i do currently but its weird cuz only my whole right side only hurts from neck to lower back so i guess time for either a new chair or i have something wrong with my muscles balance

[uneven ivy]

Sounds like a fucked up chair wth

[hot dirge]

yea i fell for those gaming chairs

gotta buy an office one

[uneven ivy]

Good quality gaming chairs are basically the same as office chairs lmao

the real tip is to test the chair before you buy it

[hot dirge]

its a good chair most people here only buy from this brand

i might be not using the lumbar support correctly

[uneven ivy]

Try to put your ass as deep as you can

and try without the lumbar support pillow if there is one (and with it)

[kindred galleon]

you can name products here lol, we could help you if we now what we're dealing with

[hot dirge]

oh i meant where i live people buy from it, this is the chair i have without the leg rest.

in the pic it looks like it can do |_ but its really a _

[kindred galleon]

can you recline the backrest ?

[hot dirge]

yeah

[kindred galleon]

i'd take off both the headpad and the butt one

or scoot it up

i'd want your shoulders open, and your spine straight

pb w these chairs is that the sides fold your shoulder inwards

[uneven ivy]

Looks weird

[hot dirge]

head is off always

[uneven ivy]

Yeah try it without the pads, I feel the headrest especially fucks up my posture

[kindred galleon]

some high end ergo chairs are designed without headrests, for good reason imo

[uneven ivy]

Also you can have the back be straighter by tightening the screws

if the screws are loose

might as well do that first

[kindred galleon]

mmmh, you dont want a flat plank in your back

[hot dirge]

so i keep the lumbar

[uneven ivy]

I'd try it without and with

without just sit as far back as you can

and check that the screws under this are tight

on both sides

[hot dirge]

ill give it a look

but idk the more i search the more i see people hating on these type of chairs alot

and only praising the office chairs

[kindred galleon]

kinda yeah

[woven garnet]

@sacred moon

[uneven ivy]

It doesn’t really matter if it’s a gaming chair or office chair as long as it fits your ass

[iron fractal]

2 question how and how much does proper exercise and diet help with gaming, in the sense if u got from hardly exercising and having a rather bad diet to have regular exercise and a good diet what improvement can u see in ur aim, even if its just u find it easier to concentrate and build muscle memory faster?

[marsh latch]

yes, alot

[iron fractal]

how much excercise a week/day is good and how intense like if i did just a 30 min run or jog would that still suffice that same and more intense training, and are there any good diet resources around, as im quite a picky eater being autistic and all, and can u list some of the effects, i just like having an idea of how it will help to motivate me further

[marsh latch]

its just going to get complicated if you want it to be. pick an excercise you have fun with, do it regularly. what people sometimes dont understand is that doing sth regularly or consistently doesnt mean its doing it every day. just 1x per week would be a gamechanger too, IF you do it every week. more can be better if it fits your schedule, no point in burning yourself out. as for diet, drink water, pick fruits and vegetables (and meat if you want) you like, and again, it eat on a regular basis. as you can already guess, maintaining constistency is the most important part. as for effects, it doesnt really matter, everything will get better no matter what if you stick to it. if you really need an example: my reaction time increased by 20ms just by eating my veggies everyday

[iron fractal]

is tea fine? i usually drink tea and its easier for me to consitently drink?

[ember wadi]

anyone know what could be causing my middle left trap to be hurting while aim training? Used to have it on both sides but managed to get rid of it on the right side by removing my arm rests so my shoulders wouldnt be in an awkward position. The left side pain is persisting tho. Even added more trap exercises to my back day and didn't rly notice an improvement.

[marsh latch]

water will still be water even with herbs, totally fine for starters

[uneven ivy]

Exercising makes your brain and body function

If you don’t exercise, your body and brain don’t work

[uneven ivy]

As much vegetables, fruits, starchy carbs with fiber

[uneven ivy]

Tea is absolutely fine, unless it interferes with your sleep

[iron fractal]

i dont feel the effects of caffiene

[uneven ivy]

But tea dries me up, at least. So I recommend water as well

[uneven ivy]

Do you have problems in your life that you’re seeking to fix with these changes?

Something like ADHD can’t really be completely fixed with dietary or exercise changes

[iron fractal]

just want to better myself and improve my health with the excuse of improving at games and aim training

[iron fractal]

howd u know i had ADHD

[ember wadi]

caffeine not working is a common ADHD thing

[uneven ivy]

Lol

[uneven ivy]

Then u need to get stimulant medication and work that out with your doctor

[queen sandal]

how should i be sitting to aim better and not feel like garbage after a long sesh?

[uneven ivy]

less tension

[queen sandal]

it doesnt feel like i tense up all that much, but idk since im still getting better at being less tense with my mouse

[iron fractal]

with tension it isnt just ur mouse, its ur finger, wrist, arm and depending on how u sit/aim mabye ur shoulder

[queen sandal]

the problem is i struggle to feel tension unless its on purpose

[iron fractal]

that means ur doing it subcounsily from either 1, bad habit, 2 bad posture/set up, 3, nerves

u need to become more aware of ur tension, how to achieve that im not sure, become more purpuseful with tension...

[queen sandal]

4: all 3

[lavish trail]

pentabounce hurt anyone elses elbows or just me

[frosty veldt]

i really stuggle with arfid is there anything that could help with that

[hazy condor]

honestly ive had 0 added benefits from training n proper diet so its prob going to be subjective, if u want to try n see if it works for u n adds some sort of a benefit then 4km jog with med-low intensity might be enough or u could go tryout a gym

[solemn gust]

I started doing mobility stuff, and the reverse prayer starts hurting quite quickly

does that mean I am overdoing kovaaks/gaming?

I had double cubito-ulna injuries like 12 years ago, I may just also have wrist mobility issues

[tender hare]

so recently i've started getting tired after like 7 mins of aim training (which never happened before)

it only started happening after i got sick

what could be the issue?

my arm was never this tired when aim training before

[uneven ivy]

tension

[tender hare]

never had an issue before and my tension management got better

[uneven ivy]

Try doing some mobility exercises

[tender hare]

like?

[abstract dew]

happend to me too, i just hopped off for a week and it was gone

[tender hare]

did you play any aim intensive game and did you workout

[abstract dew]

Nope I stopped workout and any kind of heavy aim for that week but also cause i felt not really "healed", after i was sick a week prior | i hope that helped

[kindred galleon]

Did you just get a cold, or something more serious ?

[tender hare]

dust allergy

had it for 2 days then it got down into my throat

[kindred galleon]

yeah ok inflammation can rly f up your endurance

get your histamine levels right, and make sure to hydrate properly while recovering

[proud patrol]

I have a terrible habbit of blinking in serious situations like tracking in ow, holding angles in val and mid kovaaks scenario. how do i stop it?

[kindred galleon]

dont stop

it's hella important to blink, time it on the bot dir changes

[uneven ivy]

Wtf

[hasty stag]

I have a terrible habbit of breathing in serious situations like tracking in ow, holding angles in val and mid kovaaks scenario. how do i stop it?

[uneven ivy]

meditation and deep sea diving

[silent birch]

i was playing soccer this morning

as a defender

i hit my shoulder hard against another player that was running towars me

towards

and it felt like i had a semi dislocation from my shoulder and back in place (although it doesnt feel quite right)

and when i move my right arm (mainly vertical movement) it hurts a lot

[limpid kayak]

Rest it and go doctors

Don’t do stuff that puts it in pain until you know what’s wrong

[uneven ivy]

If no bones are broken, it takes probably like 2 weeks to heal if you rest

or if you hurt it again, you can potentially have a semi-detached shoulder.

[proud patrol]

what

[solar condor]

i am recently returning to val and im having pain here , am i to tense trying to aim?

[silent birch]

probably

especially common for low sens

low sens high speed tracking

or high sens precision

[solar condor]

i been messing around with sens , i was 1600 .28 on val. now .26 but idk how to be less tens sometimes. i see the other aimers in game have smooth aim and just more precise. the aimtrainers tilt me alot cause i do all the training and see improvement just to get on and diffed

[silent birch]

could u try sending a vod for me to review

[sage perch]

yo my hp is really low i think, my arm gets weak after playing one run

[terse sky]

Do I need to raise my chair or lower it?

[hasty stag]

i think that's fine, could raise a bit if u think you have too much weight on your arm

can also just experiment

[limpid kayak]

Is fine now

[ebon bay]

OSPUUUUUUZE

[sage perch]

i can't i do this my arm feel weak i can't aim properly

[stiff topaz]

Hey so my vision tends to go blurry if i play tracking tasks for too long (like 30+ minutes, especially with control tracking) is this something i should be worried about or am i just going too hard? (Not blinking enough and too short breaks between attempts)

[uneven ivy]

Look out of the window as often as you can

[spice flame]

i have astigmatism and i get this when i dont wear glasses. if u dont have any maybe consider turning ur monitors brightness down a wee bit

[stiff topaz]

I also have astigmatism! I am always wearing glasses but will try the brightness thing

[quasi patio]

went to clinic last week ,Doc said its tendonitis gave me a brace and some meds , anyone who has experience with this and could tell me how to speed up the healing process and how to return to kovaaks ? . I started with some stretches and light upper and lower arm training to strengthen the wrist . Thank you

[marsh latch]

thats medical advice, so best check out a proper physical therapist for treatment of it

[uneven ivy]

Did you get the sleeping braces? What’s the cause for your tendonitis? Did you do physical exercise or just gaming?

If it’s from gaming, you need to fix your posture, focus on tension control (e.g. No tension at all)

Also do as your doc says

When you sleep or whenever you use the brace, make sure your wrist is actually resting. And when gaming, pay attention to the angle your wrist has, and learn to aim train on 0 tension

[quasi patio]

@uneven ivy thank you

[mystic grove]

how does going to the gym and working on my upper body affect my aim i went to the gym consistently for a few months in the past and im not sure if going back will negatively affect my aim

[uneven ivy]

it will help your brain

also if you're not using isolated machines, it will train your wrists and that can help with endurance and tension control

[celest shuttle]

It’ll help u not be a twink and tension max

The stronger ur muscles the more control u have over them usually

[glacial valley]

guys usually yall take 1 day off per week?

aim training, game, etc

just doing nothing at all

its cause recently I have been feeling that my tracking is getting worse in-game. Like, I'm smooth but I'm not matching the speed of the target, I can't see my crosshair properly, and I feel like there is a huge delay in my vision when spotting enemies

[near umbra]

Can someone simplify what happened during the supplements 101 stage?

[stiff topaz]

to me this sounds like effects of not sleeping enough

[mild jay]

if you have restmax (8 proper hours deep sleep), sunmax (30 mins a day), carrotmax (eat carrots everyday), banana max (1 banana a day), milk max (1 cup milk daily), and food max (2-3 quality meals daily) your body, eyes in your case, should have no problem processing where your target is

I would also gymmax as well because i used to have wrist pains when i was around 17 but i just went to gym and gymmax and did isolated wristmaxxing exercises now no pain and i can kovaaksmax all day which is usually 1 hour a day

basically what im saying is you should healthmax first and then aimmaxxing will follow

and taking 1 day off a week is called restmaxxing which in my opinion is perfectly fine

[grim jetty]

do u add the ''max'' thing for the meme or u genuinely call it like that

[marsh latch]

whats wrong with maxxing

[grim jetty]

because yk...

carrotmax

[glacial valley]

oh i can be that too

[glacial valley]

i got it, ty very much, but somehow i feel kinda brainroted

with the max stuff lol

[marsh latch]

carrots are cheap and very healthy, dont hate carrots

[glacial valley]

carrots are good

[rose vale]

It sounds funny max

What am I supposed to do when wristmaxing 😔

[grim jetty]

a okey okey i thought he was fr

[rose vale]

I think you gotta mememax some more

[fallen flint]

humormaxing

[wraith plinth]

Yo

Anyone trying to give me physique pointers

[rose vale]

does anyone else have their pinky not really hurt but like kinda sore from pressing shift or control alot?

[bitter temple]

u need to pinkymax ig

fr tho lock in on stretching

can’t be good big

sign*

[rose vale]

happens to ONLY my pinky. Could be stretching or maybe just bad positioning on my pinky finger

idk

[robust bough]

when I used to grind hypixel

never really stopped until I stopped playing minecraft so mcuh

[rose vale]

I mean I notice it in apex and warframe alot because I hit ctrl to slide alot lol

[high kiln]

is it okayy to still aimtrain iif ur arm is sore post workout

[fallen flint]

in wf i have my bullet jump and slide to my back mouse button, helped a lot with my pinky

[rose vale]

Maybe I try that because I don’t think I use mouse buttons in WF, in apex tho it’s 2 of my abilities lol

[viral galleon]

Can you guys recommend a Video Guide for ergonomic Setup of chair, desk, Monitor etc? All inclusive

[rocky valve]

Any advice or thoughts on how to discern the difference between what may be pain or soreness? When I aim train and/or been playing my main game(Apex) more offten I notice the inside of my elbows get this weird tightness feeling.

[valid oyster]

I'm planning to main a 16in laptop display (moving from 24in), but the screen size is quickly becoming detrimental to my normal way of play. Is it okay if I "hunch forward" and get my eyes closer to the screen relative to the distance of the previous monitor?

It's going to be something like a 60deg angle

[ocean notch]

why not stay on 24 inch

if u say u plan

[valid oyster]

Can't

[west drum]

serious question guys, why does it feel like my wrist needs an oil change and is rusty af? especially when i do tracking exercises in which i use my wrist rather than my arm there's so much micro flickering in it. it's only appeared recently also - i have 1500+ hours on aim trainers why is this happening now

is there any real wrist exercises i can do?

[hasty stag]

yeah

with dumbells, bands, or just bodyweight

[hasty stag]

i mean its gonna fuck up your posture in the long term

but if you moderate your playtime, take breaks, exercise, you should be fine i think

[uneven ivy]

Try warming ur hands and wrists in hot water

[kindred galleon]

You're wearing out the small stabilizer muscles if you rely too much on just the wrist

Spreading the task to the arm, wrist and even the fingers will help reduce individual muscle soreness

[twin fiber]

does anyone know how to fix tendonitis in your forearm/shoulder and pinched nerves aswell

[half adder]

Can you describe your symptoms and the area where you feel pain in detail?

[twin fiber]

like stiffness in my elbow forearm area towards like the outside of my elbow and the back of my shoulder/towards my neck and like constant pain but gets worse when i play

[half adder]

Like these two area ?

[twin fiber]

Yes for the first pick on the second pick it’s left from the circle

But like slightly

[half adder]

Do you use a chair with wheels or a chair with fixed legs?

[twin fiber]

Wheels

[half adder]

Sitting on a chair with wheels is one of the causes of neck-and-shoulder pain. A wheeled chair isn’t stable; even if you sit close to the desk, your body will unconsciously push down on the desk to brace yourself and keep the chair from rolling backward → which can lead to neck and shoulder strain.

As for your forearm, it could be because you’ve been overusing it. Try resting for a few days, massaging it, and applying an ice pack to the painful area. If it doesn’t improve after 3 days, you might consider seeing a specialist or a doctor

[twin fiber]

Alright tysm

[ocean briar]

Hey - anyone got any chair recommendations?
Looking for a new chair to improve posture and such for aiming. Got a height adjustable desk and loving it but my chair a little old and looking for something that isnt a million dollar overpriced herman miller lol. Something ergonomic and not necessarily a gaming chair although secret lab ones might be ok. Let me know please, anything would be greatly appreciated 🙂

[slate halo]

Hey, im starting to think about buying 1HPs course as my hand/wrist worsened a bit. Can anyone tell me if its worth it/helped someone?

[fallen flint]

if i bananaovermax can i slip a little carrotmaxxing out

[mild jay]

i think bananamaxxing is important for overall health but for specifics in eyesight and being able to look at your opponent clearly, carrotmaxxing is more important

[fluid fiber]

@sage perch

[fluid fiber]

@sage perch

[terse sky]

I finally managed to fix my ergonomics and set myself properly to be comfortable and healthy and it was way easier then I thought it be

[marsh latch]

ergonomicmaxxing

[proven zodiac]

i get fatigued/sore in my hands while aimtraining with a fingertip mouse but when i play games i feel fine. any idea why?

[marsh latch]

aim training is volume heavy, games are not. you just fatigue way quicker in aimtraining because of it

[proven zodiac]

so if i aimtrain more and it will go away eventually?

its so bad tho like 5mins in im already struggling

[marsh latch]

yeah just like with any exercises if you rest properly between sessions and days

[fluid fiber]

@sage perch

[robust bough]

100000 reps of flicking an hour vs like 15

[tender hare]

recently i noticed that whenever i play clicking scenarios that requires a lot of flicking my fingers will sweat like crazy

only happens on scens like 1w2ts or floating heads

even when i play aether i don't sweat