health

[split yarrow]

I hate to socialyze It's a part of me who wants to be alone and free 😮‍💨

[noble trellis]

still have to get diagnosed

not something you can just be sure about

[uneven ivy]

I mean, I'm not saying go talk to random people, but trained professionals

[uneven ivy]

I think you can be sure you have a problem without it being diagnosed. The problem is, you can't get any help for it if you don't get diagnosed.

[noble trellis]

sure isnt the right word

you can think that you have a problem but you cant be sure

especially with something like clinical depression which is so fuzzy, vague and at the same time nuanced and complicated

[violet swan]

I seen a video on why water is "essential" for good aim, but I dont drink water regularly and I am still Immortal 3 in Val and perform fairly well. How important actually is it?

[noble trellis]

try to go a few days without it

[violet swan]

I hardly drink it. I may have a glass of it every week. I always have like Sports drink n shit with me

[buoyant minnow]

Is it normal to switch to mouth breathing when focusing in game?

[pallid mural]

That contains water im pretty sure

[thin delta]

You don’t need to drink “water” itself

You can drink anything containing water

But it’ll be less healthy

[celest linden]

its just good for brain function and body function

[vagrant hinge]

Is it normal to have pain in your pinky finger. when training?

[open ivy]

Nope, pain is definitely not normal anywhere when performing aim training. May be a sign of some repetitive strain (underpreparation injury)

[vagrant hinge]

what should i do? I'm trying pinky stretch's

[open ivy]

I can only give general recommendations since there are alot of potential reasons why you might have some pain along a pinky side of your hands (tendon, nerve, joint, referred nerve, etc.)

Generally pinky sided issues we see from weakness of the muscles of the hand. Performing some strengthening exercises for the pinky / ring finger (using a finger strengthener) will be a good start.

Something like that, focusing on pressing with the last three fingers or pinky / ring. Performing up to 3x12-15 2x/day.

On top of that I would evaluate your posture to see if there may be contributions of suboptimal positions of the shoulder leading to earlier fatigue in the wrist & hand -> compensations at the hand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_7x46S3Nic&t=36s

This is a new general routine i've made that doies have some basic strengthening of the hand in there

YOu can also use a cup, pillow, towel to create some resistance to squeeze for your hand

[vagrant hinge]

Thanks

[chrome warren]

I know this isn't physical health focused and more on my mental, but the situation ship has blocked me on everything, I feel relieved realising she was a red flag. But I shall hopefully find the ability to be at peace on my own and enjoy my life for the present rather than dwell on the future and past

[violet swan]

more aim motivation

[chrome warren]

very true big brain plays

[minor fox]

Is this grip unhealty? I have most palm contanct on the right side and sometimes my pinky starts hurting

i tried tilting my hand to the left so the left side of my palm also makes contact with the mousepad but that feels kind of unnatural. I think i could get used to it though

[minor fox]

and more time, my gf also broke up with me today

[lean sigil]

Is there any pro therapist, i can talk with ? I have a big problem that ruin my life

[tropic lichen]

Your pinky hurting could be due to how the shape forces it to sit. Your hand resting more on the right side of your palm is completely normal.

[minor fox]

Thats how my pinky sits, it might be too straight or even bent inwards

[tropic lichen]

Try curling it a bit. OP1 is quite a slim mouse.

[minor fox]

i also have that on other mice aswell, sora v2, gpx and np-01s aswell

i tried curling it a bit and that feels a lot better for now, thanks :)

[onyx oriole]

guys i injured my keyboard hand again

[onyx oriole]

Have a feeling it's because I have my keyboard too slanted making my wrist bend which is causing the pain

[umbral lion]

Does anybody know why my mouse arm flares out ? It feels odd and hurts my shoulder and just feels so unnatural . Like my arm I use for my mouse flares out to the right like far right inside of being straight in the middle if that makes sense

[empty abyss]

Idk if this is the place to ask but I was wondering why after taking a break the bottom of my wrist to my forearm aches after and sometimes while playing. I was thinking early symptoms of carpal tunnel but I dont feel any sharp pains, numbness, or pins and needles in my hands, just a dull ache in my forearm. Any ideas?

[velvet grotto]

If it's to do with depression or emotion, I think I could help. Clearly I'm not a certified therapist but I've made it through tons of bad things in my life so I believe I could possibly help.
Of course though if you'd rather talk to a certified professional then that's totally cool too

[lean sigil]

It is about a type of anxiety cause of gaming. I won't go in depth here

[muted tundra]

@lean sigil look up zach and karen, theyre esports performance coaches/therapists.
im pretty sure they do coaching idk of they're closed rn

theyve worked with a buncha t1 teams before

[lean sigil]

do you have any twitter or somthing for me ?

[muted tundra]

@lean sigil https://twitter.com/KARINTZARFATY

[lean sigil]

Thank you

[lean sigil]

I joined there dc server and it is insane there is so many ressources, i need watch all of them

[muted tundra]

the discord is kinda dead rn, there used to be daily posts but i thikn theyre busy with coaching a team rn

[lean sigil]

Oh how can i contact them ?

Twitter dm ?

[muted tundra]

idk if they respond to dms rn

[lean sigil]

mhhh i see

i need to find a way

[grave vale]

who has info on autism spectrum disorder, can't you progress because of it

[valid barn]

I've been having issues with strain in my wrist-to-forearm section of my arm and in general issues with my arms locking/ getting stiff after about 15 runs. I have been stretching for the last 2 weeks? and I haven't seen improvement so far. Do I just need to stick with it or is there anything else I can do? I also am a programmer and have been training to get to 125 wpm.

[verbal star]

My right shoulder has been feeling a little funny and I'm worried it's biceps tendonitis, does anyone here have any recommendations on prevention/treatment?

[crude meteor]

at the PTs in here, legit question. im a medical student, i was wondering what you guys wish u saw more in physicians for treating the typical gamer musculoskeletal complaints

[haughty forge]

excuse the horrible imagery - but when im claw gripping my ring and pinky finger are always pushed together and just uncomfortable, however it feels impossible to actually grip it with them separately like the 2nd picture, if i hold my mouse with my left hand its normal claw but right its so strange 0-0

[noble trellis]

you can put your ring finger higher up

that might help

[sand birch]

Would canting my m&kb like split keyboard people sometimes do be a good idea?

[clever heath]

is there anyway to reduce performance anxiety, i currently play overwatch and when i cant really hit my shots that i should probably hit it just gets me down real bad. I've been trying to say that its fine but it sometimes get to me especially if we lost the match overall. Is there something i can do or practice to remove this bad mental?

[twin hornet]

wrist feels strained and sort of burns on the left and its shaky while tracking

[pallid mural]

Have less volume on the pc + use mobility routines from 1hp youtube/ site

[dire iron]

my right hand(mainly fingers) have pain since 1 month ago
Is this reason just over working or I have to rest my hands?
How can I rest my hand well?

[pallid mural]

This can be related to your shoulder, neck and upper back posture and strength. As well as overuse + that together. Have less volume on the pc, fix posture if needed, use mobility routine from 1hp. Do that for a while and see if u feel relief/improvement

I also recommend increasing sens a tiny bit on val so u can be less explosive for a while

[dire iron]

Ok thanks

[quaint talon]

wow, working out for only a couple days has given me pretty decent results, i feel like i dont struggle with focusing as much, faster, and smoother too

[fleet tree]

ive been trying to do a playlist but it makes my eyes hurt, is it just that i dont blink enough?

[orchid hawk]

a

[slate halo]

Ive been having a pretty messed up sleeping schedule for a while wake up "daytime" sleep "morning" could this be holding me back?

[pallid mural]

Heck yea brotha

[pallid mural]

U’re just new to it, after some days u will adjust. Do some breaks in between and keep urself hydrated

[pallid mural]

its not optimal, but wont kill u

[hollow minnow]

Is muscle imbalance in the arms really that bad? People notice that my right arm is bigger than my left. But it’s not that big of a difference. And I keep getting told to train my left arm.

[grave vale]

I have an autism spectrum disorder, am I no longer progressing? But i never elvove in game

[thorny kestrel]

Took a long break (since beginning of October I am so washed now) from playing FPS games because of a constant wrist pain and tingle feeling in my fingers. Decided I wanted to grind again. Started practicing with my playlist again last night and the pain came back and feeling it this morning. Did stretches previously and found it never helped. Also switched to trying to use my arm more when aiming but haven't seen any improvement. aim trained previously for a year and never had these problems until September of 2023 out of nowhere. Anyone know any way to get rid of this or help improve it? (claw grip)

[noble trellis]

see a physical therapist

sounds like cts

are you experiencing some numbness in fingers when the wrist tingles

[thorny kestrel]

Yea back in october I did that's why I stopped

[noble trellis]

sounds like carpal tunnel

see someone

for the time being you can try to do stretches and exercises for your shoulders actually

cts can be caused/made worse by poor posture as well

[thorny kestrel]

Damn, thank you so much I thought it was something like that but was in denial lol. I sit at a desk all day for my job so that might contribute to it as well.

[noble trellis]

probably does

it might not be that so i wouldnt worry

definitely do see someone

does sound like youre describing nerve pain

[thorny kestrel]

Does the type of keyboard I use contribute to that? at work I have the worst membrane keyboard ever and I find that when I type I sorta feel it in my wrist. I don't have this problem at home when typing.

[bright rapids]

any health advice on how to fix blood circulation for valorant? Always happens for my circulation to reduce blood flow to my hands whenever I hop in a ranked game, making my aim extremely inconsistent and bad, yet I have never found a solution for over a year now

[pallid mural]

Sounds like a mental problem

Get less stressed about winning in ranked if so

[pallid mural]

Not aesthetic and can lead to some issues depending on the difference and the movements u’re doing

For example doing deadlifts with one erector bigger and a tight ql on one side is a serious issue that can only get worse

[bright rapids]

Not really though, my mental is perfectly fine, I always think positively in my games and sometimes even bop to music in my head, i'm generally the one that's trying to cheer up the people in my team yet my body can't understand that I don't want to be stressed about this game and always reacts like this

[pallid mural]

Honestly i might be wrong, but it does still sound to me like it could be a mental problem, after this comment

Like deep down u do stress

Kinda thing

But just my guess, u can try other things like exercising

Pouring hot water on them etc

[pallid mural]

Try going into ranked without results oriented goals, ie: win. Try and have an improvement mindset with outcome independence. Whatever will happen happen. Oh i did a mistake? Now lets see how i can improve on that for the future

[pallid mural]

Btw my hands feel weird and weak on games when im not eating or drinking enough

Maybe thats related aswell

[bright rapids]

Oh I don't care about my RR, never cared, the only result oriented goal I ever cared about was my own mistakes, though generally I only get those thoughts after I self vod review myself and realize that I am a nuisance to my team sometimes

[pallid mural]

Okay, what about ur general fitness?

Exercising improves blood flow

Nutrition?

[bright rapids]

Very bad, I don't work out yet, I eat lots of sweets (quit the habit of eating chips though, I still eat atleast 4 chocolates in total in a day and thats the only sugary thing I still consume)

Still is an excess of sugar though considering what they put in those

For general eating I eat like once or twice a day

[pallid mural]

Honestly if u eat good nutrition throughout the day + the 4 chocolate bars then its fine for bloodflow terms imo(not for the other stuff tho)

Wait once a day?

That has to be suboptimal

[bright rapids]

I eat like 4 chocolates every 2 days lol

So like 12 every week practically

[pallid mural]

Are u a skinnyboy like me, who’s hard for him to eat

[bright rapids]

no I am kinda in the fat side

[pallid mural]

Oh okay

Hmm

[bright rapids]

Like 70kg

Don't remember

72

[pallid mural]

So about the nutrition still

What good foods do u eat

Tho im siding to the exercising and particularly grip work and running/walking can enhance ur bloodflow to the fingers

There’re also other components that can help u if u google search im pretty sure

[bright rapids]

Generally meat like steak, sausages, omelets, spinach with onions and eggs etc

[grave vale]

why no one answers me?!!

[pallid mural]

Whats your routine looking like

[grave vale]

that's to say

[pallid mural]

Do u aimtrain? If yes, what do u do exactly, and do u do it everyday? Which game are we talking about

[grave vale]

Ah koovack then training in game for habits recoil of weapons only saturday And sunday

[pallid mural]

What only saturday and sunday? Game or kovaaks

[grave vale]

The two

[pallid mural]

Thats part of the reason u dont improve

Start training or playing the game everyday

What do u train on kovaaks and which game is it exactly?

[grave vale]

No time for monday at friday

[pallid mural]

Then im sorry but it will be much harder to improve

[pallid mural]

^

[grave vale]

I begin koovack i bronze for the moment André play apex

[pallid mural]

For apex i cant really help as i dont play it, what do u do on kovaaks, which routine name?

[grave vale]

Benchmark ressources

[pallid mural]

Can u send a picture of your benchmark to #advice ? We will continue on there

Of the google sheet so i can see the scores

[grave vale]

I send private message

[orchid cosmos]

Hello,
What's ur chair/desk height ?
My desk is low af, 63cm and my chair is something about 42cm I really don't find my posture comfortable at all.
My hands are very low and I have t o"lower the shoulders.

Playing valorant and other games is ok but, I just started Aimlabs and after 3-4 task I already feeling my right shoulder being tired/uncomfy.

[strange gyro]

(I can send u more information, if u want)
Short answer : Just have a chair to desk height where your shoulders are relaxed without holding it up or having it slacking off the table (down)

[orchid cosmos]

Yeah that what I read. It's really frustating I really feel more comfortable on my work desk/chair combo lol

[strange gyro]

I've heard gaming chairs are horrible for gaming (font : West Proter) They offer bad posture and just have an aesthetic look but are cushiony. I currently use a normal desk chair which is just comfy and with a height adjustment thingy

[orchid cosmos]

THIS

I have a Corsair T150 something like that, and the chair is so shit lmao

II have a 5$ chair that you could find in waiting room in hospitals, and god damn

1000% better

[strange gyro]

May I look at the model if u are able to provide the correct name? (corsair T150 is a steering wheel..) Just curious

[orchid cosmos]

T1 Race

Big shit chair

That what happens when you buy without trying 🙂

[strange gyro]

Those look like they want to make u develop "gaming posture" Lmao

[strange gyro]

Are you able to adjust the height for this? I'll send a video in your dm's for in depth. If needed remove the arm rests, you have a table

[orchid cosmos]

I've something like this at work and tbh when I sit on it I just feel so much better than the setup at my home that sucks 💀

Yeah I can adjust everything

[strange gyro]

Nvm (u got dms closed), here take this, I am not a professional and won't give the best advice for sure. But I can give u a starting point

https://youtu.be/EqeDWH4kcME?si=3pt9JHtiR8iWKJIT

[orchid cosmos]

I think I'll steal the chair and measure the desk height

[strange gyro]

This talks about chairs if u fell for the click bait title and image

[orchid cosmos]

xd

I'll take a look at

[uneven ivy]

Doctor

[pallid mural]

Whats the problem with your mental, stressing in ranked?

For general mental health go to a psychiatrist, for specific gameplay mental health - treat ranked like a swiftplay - just play. Dont put over expectations on urself

U put too much importance on winning / performing

Thats the problem

Try to have fun more

Even in pro teams, before the round starts the coaches will say “remember to have fun bois” or something along those lines

Stress is bad

Another thing that can help u, is to have one more major goal(higher than gaming in importance for u) than gaming

Idk ur situation, but when all i had was gaming, i was stressing more

[vocal seal]

i get this pain everytime i play and the more i play the more the pain and time it lasts scales

im not rly sure how to avoid doing this

[pallid mural]

Try to reduce gaming volume on the pc, grip lightly, do mobility routine for ur whole upper body everyday. U can fine good ones on 1hp site and youtube. Work on your posture and begin exercising slowly if not already

[uneven ivy]

Regular wrist and hand exercises. Also, go to the gym, it will train your grip strength which can help in the long run

[vocal seal]

alr, my posture is pretty alright at the moment but ill try to exercises

i struggle to bc its immensely boring for me

[uneven ivy]

Well do them better so they feel like something

[vocal seal]

what?

[uneven ivy]

Like, the exercises should feel quite a bit, so they shouldn't be "boring", you just need to come up with a way of getting yourself to start doing them

[pallid mural]

I think he means do them with good intensity so they’re more fun

[uneven ivy]

And when you learn them, you can do them between rounds in game etc

[pallid mural]

Oh u mean the finger ones

[vocal seal]

i assume so, just it doesnt rly change much for me LOL

it is so boring its agonizing

[pallid mural]

Before doing them think and know that they will help ur goal and that will keep u motivated

[vocal seal]

feels mentally like im dragging myself through gravel

it doesnt LOL

[pallid mural]

U have to want it

[vocal seal]

i do

[pallid mural]

Treat urself after doing them for X amount of days

[vocal seal]

dont get anything from treating myself

[uneven ivy]

If you have pain in your hands, surely when you do the exercise you feel like pretty sharp pain?

[vocal seal]

no i dont

not rly

[uneven ivy]

Then you need to do them better

[vocal seal]

what exercise r we referring to here

[pallid mural]

Nah u dont treat urself good then

[uneven ivy]

hand stretches

[vocal seal]

no i just dont feel i ever deserve it, and i dont get anything from it

[vocal seal]

its just like, regular muscle strain that i feel

[pallid mural]

? What u mean

[vocal seal]

i dont get any satisfaction from it

[pallid mural]

Whats the treat + what did u do to deserve the treat

Has to be after good work

[uneven ivy]

I can't motivate you, and no one else can't motivate you, and if you can't motivate yourself, then you probably need to see a doctor lmao

[vocal seal]

is what i have been doing for like 5 years LOL

epic ADHD win

[uneven ivy]

are you medicated

[vocal seal]

yeah, doesnt change much for wanting to do exercise

can u guys send me what u think i should be doing for exercises

[uneven ivy]

The medication should give you self control, unless the dosage is too low

[vocal seal]

should i doing both hand and upper body mobility

[uneven ivy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_7x46S3Nic

For life, you want to exercise everything but for gaming, just focusing wrists and hands is fine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiRC80FJbHU

[pallid mural]

Are u not motivated in general or just exercise

[vocal seal]

should i do both or just one

[uneven ivy]

do everything

[vocal seal]

uhhhhh both atm ig

[vocal seal]

limit to how many times i should do em?

[uneven ivy]

I mean

You should be just doing the maximum amount of exercise you can get yourself to do

and if you struggle to get yourself to do anything, you should see a doctor

[vocal seal]

mhm

idk makes it easier when i can do the exercises while doing something else

[uneven ivy]

Sure, just take the 10minutes it takes to learn the exercises, and then you can just do them while gaming or watching something

[vocal seal]

ya but like, if i am motivated ill do it over n over again

okie dokie

should i do those two and the 1hp upper body routine?

and then run through the 3 videos again

and then rinse repeat until i cant physically anymore

[uneven ivy]

I think the HP1 is going to have a more noticeable impact

[vocal seal]

@pallid mural wait is this the one u were referring to

[uneven ivy]

Okay I see where this is going. Just do the 1HP video once a day at least every day you feel pain

[pallid mural]

Thats one of them ye, try that

[uneven ivy]

you can do the exercises more if you want

[vocal seal]

well id like more to PREVENT it from happening in the first place

[uneven ivy]

Was it you that was about to get looked at for ADHD?

[vocal seal]

aight

[uneven ivy]

The way to prevent is exercise

[pallid mural]

Ye, i was diagnosed in the past but need it again cuz i lost it lol

Got 2 tablets for adhd test

[uneven ivy]

How's that going?

Tablets, like medication?

[pallid mural]

Ye

[vocal seal]

ya u just said that i should do it after pain

ive just been resting a lot

[uneven ivy]

Tension control, going to the gym to increase grip strength, doing regular exercises

[uneven ivy]

You tried them yet?

[vocal seal]

im prob not gonna go to gym, i have a hand crusher though so ill try that ig

the thing is my pain isnt wrist pain its specifically in the side of my hand

[pallid mural]

No i have to try them on the day of the test on the 13th

[uneven ivy]

Exercise is the second most efficient way of treating ADHD, so if you can ever start going to the gym it can help a lot with everything from motivation to self-worth

[uneven ivy]

Good luck, it should be a massive difference

[vocal seal]

its so mind numbingly boring for me that i dont think it will tbh

ive been doing regular exercising for the past few weeks and its agonizing

[uneven ivy]

wireless earbuds and get a PT or a friend to show you how to do it

[vocal seal]

music doesnt help rly

[uneven ivy]

exercising is really fun, especially when you're just getting started. Like, it's very painful

[vocal seal]

its insanely boring for me

always has been

[uneven ivy]

Add intensity

[vocal seal]

doesnt change

dont have weights that i could use atm either

[uneven ivy]

if you're a beginner even pushups can be difficult enough

[vocal seal]

pushups r so boring

they're okay because i finish them fast

[pallid mural]

I think if u do mini goals with the exercises it will help

Like a game

[uneven ivy]

You should get into some high intensity exercises if your problem is boredom

[pallid mural]

Today i will do 2x10, in two days i will do 2x12 no matter what etc

Trust me just thinking about this pumps me up

Cuz i imagine the toughness and reaching the goal moment

[vocal seal]

what options do i have

[vocal seal]

just because i say im going to do something doesnt mean i will

goals dont rly

work for me

i get there and im like

oh cool ig

[uneven ivy]

boxing, team sports, just pushing yourself

[vocal seal]

have no interest in engaging in a sport like that

[uneven ivy]

Buhurt

[vocal seal]

and there r no team sports that r regularly available near me, and especially not ones i want to play

[vocal seal]

whar

[uneven ivy]

medieval fighting

[vocal seal]

ah'

i dont think anyone is doing that around me LOL

[pallid mural]

Thanks bro 👍

[vocal seal]

@pallid mural @uneven ivy routine was cool

ty gang :D

[mint ember]

Guys is my hand fucked?

[swift ice]

hey does anyone know why my wrist shakes like this? ive been trying to fix it for 3 years and i get the same advice "dont grip hard" "practice smoothness" etc etc etc. ive followed the advice mentioned and still nothing it still shakes. does anyone have any idea? https://streamable.com/kjmevu

[violet swan]

Anybody know what causes pain in your palm just under the thumb and pinky finger, I dont even grip my mouse hard

[naive sparrow]

when i twist my left wrist it makes a click with little pain

[lethal badger]

yeah i get the same

[cursive parrot]

could be muscle soreness from playing too much. Try massaging them and taking a couple days break from playing / aim training. You could also try a palm or claw grip, those'll provide better stability.

[fleet pulsar]

can u guys suggest me great desk setup video guides in term of chair position, monitor positon, etc? I have my eye level in the middle of the monitor because if I did try the "ergonomic" position where the eye level are at the top of the monitor, my neck get sore and become someone grandma

[pallid mural]

West proter’s

[teal mural]

my neck tends to lean to the right subconciously, which is not comfortable I believe it is due to my right eye being less strong than my left, hence my prescription glasses. is there a way to improve this?

[uneven ivy]

Daily neck stretches

[tame otter]

Any wrist strengthening exercises? When I play basketball, as I try to shoot the ball my wrist starts to have a sharp pain after some time (After not shooting the ball for some time it doesn't hurt as much, but there is still some pain). I think it's due to the fact that I usually sit on my pc all day without any breaks.

I think I might have carpal tunnel or something like that unfortunately.

Also the last time I benchmarked myself (around like 3-2 weeks ago) around 2-3 scenarios in, my wrist started hurting and getting tired. It was really noticable during the static clicking scenarios.

[pallid mural]

Use more arm in ur training, take frequent breaks every 30 minutes, do a mobility routine for the whole upper body everyday, 1hp site has good info about injury prevention and rehab(also youtube channel)

Also make sure to reduce tension on ur arm wrist and fingers consciously while playing

And reduce gaming time on the pc

Until u feel better

[sacred swan]

is there a reason i cant stay focused on moving targets

its like i just zone out after 3 seconds

[sacred swan]

maybe its adhd xd

because i noticed ive also had this problem all my life when reading text, that i just cant keep being focused on it while reading

[uneven ivy]

get diagnosed and medicated

[quaint talon]

sounds like me, and i have adhd

and i cant stay focused on moving targets either sometimes

[haughty lark]

anyone find it easier to do aim training after gym sessions?

especially when the caffeine has worn out and playing valo/training is just chilling

[sacred swan]

yes bc working out increases bloodflow in the brain and muscles

[fleet pulsar]

💪I can feel the Testosterone flowing in my blood

[maiden hemlock]

or just take exorbitant amounts of hydralazine 💯 🔥

[brave stirrup]

time to turn into a pasu warrior

[quaint talon]

maybe later

[vale oasis]

my eye keeps twitching when i shoot dots am i dying?????

[brittle ferry]

im starting to get some wrist pain from aiming, any ways i can avoid this

[brave stirrup]

do u tense alot?

[brave stirrup]

yes

[vestal smelt]

how to make my hand stop shaking ?

[brittle ferry]

occasionally but im working a lot on it atm, it never used to hurt when i didnt regulate my tension at all

[brave stirrup]

oh ok

[brave stirrup]

Play smoothness scens and stop tensing

[eternal valley]

center of wrist which im assuming is the tendon seems a little strained, no sharp pain should i take a break or nah

[lime imp]

Does mewing really work

[main torrent]

What do u think it does?

[faint bear]

Is having headaches post routine normal

I do the VDIM routine and usually have a headache after especially after tracking tasks

[pallid mural]

Are u new?

[faint bear]

The only breaks I have is like 5 seconds between 10 tasks for water n posture check

[faint bear]

Yeah a bit

[pallid mural]

Why do u need this

[faint bear]

I do play a lot of video games tho

Like 4 ish hours a day

But never get headaches

[pallid mural]

Thats normal then, aimtraining tracking is different and more intense than gameplay

Get frequent breaks, get up and hydrate

With time it will be easier

[faint bear]

Alright getting up seems like a great Idea to add to my routine

Thanks

[pallid mural]

Do some more than seconds, like 5 minutes or so every 30 min

Then u can continue with more focus + reduced continuous fatigue

[faint bear]

Hmmm alright I’ll try that out

[frail torrent]

hi :D i need some help, i was trying to bar squat again today and i noticed that i was having a lot of pain i wanna say in my flexor carpi ulnaris, on both of my forearm/wrists and i kind of need help for that

any suggestions?

[pallid mural]

Im assuming u took a long break, u will need to expect an adjustment period, if u did ur previous weights after a break dont, use lower for a bit

There also a lot of videos about pain on elbows forearms wrists on youtube

[frail torrent]

nah no breaks im just trying more quad movement types

ill do more research, thanks!

[pallid mural]

Try checking out youtube for squat related arm pain + 1hp channel, they have rehab and prehab for gamer related pain but its same muscles so it should help as well potentially

[frail torrent]

alright thank you tons!

[dire iron]

I often can't take sleep
Do I have to go to hospital?

[verbal cosmos]

why can't you sleep?

you just go into bed and stay with your eyes open?

[dire iron]

idk
I don't feel sleepy

[uneven ivy]

probably, or at least the doctor

[verbal cosmos]

you should probably try to fix your sleep schedule by trying to go to sleep earlier. even though if you can't sleep, going to bed early will make you go to sleep earlier.

avoid screen-time before bedtime if you can, at least an hour before bed.
try taking walks in the evening, helps you relax.
avoid eating anything very sugary before bed, no coffee either. just drink water.

[dire iron]

ok,I'll try it

[solar remnant]

im dead

[swift cosmos]

I figured I'd ask about this here.
I'll try and explain this as best as I can, but the thing that I can most compare it to is an orgasm.

It typically happens while I'm very engrossed in a match and I start well, reaching a climax, it builds up and up and up until it explodes; it's a dopamine rush; yes, but it really impacts the game in a negative way because I perform worse during the coming down and I can typically only calm down fully after the game ends.

I have tried to calm down and try and slow down when this happens, but it doesn't really seem to work. Once I'm on the train I can't get off, If I try to get off I have to derail and crash. And that sucks, a lot

I assume this is flow

I'm not conscious during it, only once I'm about to peak and come down; I really want to avoid that peak, or maintain it. Because if I don't, I will come down and 99% of games that a come down during while they haven't ended; I will lose.

[swift cosmos]

Um, well, I realised that this is connected to something specific to me. So, yeah...

[real sun]

?

[pallid mural]

I saw multiple times aimers saying u can be a good aimer with 200ms reaction time, i dont think its critical at all

Its just an edge for a few situations

If u have experience and learned and applied all the skills, its more than enough

[pallid mural]

Cant think about the zone if u want to enter / stay in it

Be goal driven, have fun and challenge yourself, thats it

We cant perform 100% at all times, not possible

Better not to stress about it

Take a break after a game or two then come back

[uneven ivy]

adhd?

[swift cosmos]

No

[naive sparrow]

is it bad that my dynamic sens is higher than my in game val sens

[pallid mural]

Nope

If its substantially higher (for example 20 dynamic 55 ingame) i recommend from time to time training dynamic on a similar sens to ingame( 40-50)

[naive sparrow]

is 46-52 good?

[pallid mural]

Ye no problem

[naive sparrow]

is it bad if my static is 80cm when my val sens is 52?

since static is mainly what val is shouldnt i just use my static sens as my val sens?

[pallid mural]

Not necessarily, u are training ur speed more with 80cm. However i recommend training with slightly higher sens even in static, to still practice some smoothness with the deceleration/micro part of static

Like 65cm

[naive sparrow]

oh

so is it bad to have the static sens the same as in game

does having it lower in aimlab give me larger benifit

[pallid mural]

Not important for it to be the exact same

By manipulating the sens u train ur weakpoint more with the same muscles the ingame sens uses

For example

If ur ingame is 52 using 40 can train precision and smoothness with ingame movements + using 65 can train speed for that ingame sens

Cuz being smooth and precise is harder on 40, and being quick is harder on 65

The ingame sens will benefit more from training like that

Or should i say ur general mouse control performance with the ingame sens

[north panther]

Any advice if I feel uncomfortable in any position I play?

[pallid mural]

When did this start

[north panther]

like

1 week ago @pallid mural

[open ivy]

For anyone that has wrist pain - 1HP is looking for a few beta testers for something we have built based on our experience & work in treating injuries over the past 10 yrs.

We are looking for 5 only. If you're interested 🖐🏻 react and I'll DM you

[fiery jackal]

Does anyone know if I should do wrist exercises before any aimlab routine? If so, what should I do? Thank you very much and sorry for the inconvenience.

[open ivy]

https://youtu.be/hsyUH4OIk2w?si=sHJS8jkgr1HQDydU

This is a good general routine you can use to warm-up before your actual routine

If you want to be more specific, it's about identify what muscles you use more frequently based on your grip, aiming style etc.

[fiery jackal]

thank you

[crude yarrow]

need advice on how to fix wrist skipping

[raven ridge]

using less than 40 if i use 52 could be counter productive to train my precision ?

[open ivy]

We have our 5 beta testers already! thanks everyone

[pallid mural]

I think its most likely mental

[pallid mural]

U dont need to train highsens on static (30cm)

Its counterproductive to learning the technique

[raven ridge]

ok ty

[pallid mural]

See more here: #1219576679140167820 message

[copper basin]

how do you make yourself more into an outdoor person? i think it's starting to cause tensions with my parents, because they want me off the computer more (obviously being on the computer too long isn't good for your health)
it'd also help IMO so i won't want online character customization in the games i play

[pallid mural]

I think getting a hobby that involves meeting other people and doing stuff with them can help

The first action is always the hardest

[uneven ivy]

get airpods and start walking, cycling, exploring, visiting people, visiting places, going to the library, going to the nature etc

[jovial rain]

anyone else got issues with clicking much? it feels like much clicking is the worst for my hand, for example in micro static scenarios where you click much. could that be a grip issue or something?

[turbid fossil]

What is the airpod parts good for

like “go do a free hobby, but first spend a tonna money for some reason”

[pallid mural]

Any earphone can apply😎

[pallid mural]

Try doing a mobility routine for ur hand and fingers

1hp youtube/site has good info

[jovial rain]

ah yeah good idea, i always forget doing it

[pallid mural]

Try and relax the grip aswell, will help health and performance

[jovial rain]

i wonder is there much difference in click force needed in mouses? i got a superlight x pro, wonder if something easier to click would also help

[pallid mural]

There’s definitely some clicks that are better and some that are harder for spam clicking

Idk about gpx tho

Didnt use it

[unkempt dragon]

Guys I think I got osteoarthritis

[turbid fossil]

Why

No earphones -> better situational awareness

[turbid fossil]

What is your problems?

[turbid fossil]

gpx should be relatively easy to click

all the logimice are imo

Just make sure to take frequent breaks

I grinded a lot of schulte, which requires very fast clicking and minibreaks are the goat for handhealth

[uneven ivy]

Not really the relevant part of it at all

[arctic eagle]

My hands feels tired all the time. Especially fingers. I play Valorant 8 hrs a day and 1 hrs aimlab kovaaks. I recently increased my sens from .167 to .23 on 1600 dpi, wrist gets tired as usual but the fingers and palm ache even when I wake next day. Plz help.

[uneven ivy]

how are you sitting

[arctic eagle]

How do I explain it…. I sit almost straight

[uneven ivy]

What does almost straight mean? Have your back to your chair, and your arm so that it has support somewhere and isn't just hovering

[turbid fossil]

How often do you take your hand off the mouse

While playing

Minibreaks are great

Even for a couple seconds in between rounds and shaking them loose or whatever

finger- and palmaches are not good

[errant kestrel]

Anyone have desk advice for a person with short arms and wide shoulders?

I feel like no matter what I do i'm either leaning in to make up for how short my arms are or pulling my pecs/chest tight asf to keep my arms close so I have a wider range of motion with my arm

[uneven ivy]

Adjust the height of the table/chair if u can

[arctic eagle]

Ya I sit with my back to the chair and actually have my full arm on the desk expect the elbow. I just bend a little from my neck because I position my monitor somewhat low

[arctic eagle]

Thx. Haven’t thought about that 👍

[radiant pollen]

Hello just wandering how do you guys deal with forearm pain

idk if it is about fatigue or smth else

[pallid mural]

Frequent breaks, less tension while aiming, mobility routine and rehab using 1hp exercises on their site/ youtube. Also potentially ur posture and arm position

Can also be caused by weaknesses in the upper back, shoulder and arm muscles

[radiant pollen]

thx for that

im doing some exercices times to times but i think my posture is bad i am arched forward

so theses pains are not common while training like i shouldn't have them ?

[cursive parrot]

get a recliner and sunbathe, shit feels so good.

[leaden herald]

hello how to deal with wrist pains specifically only occurs when i try to do pushups

[pallid mural]

Use something u can hold onto so ur wrists are neutral

Or do a mobility routine for ur wrists

• frequent breaks

[leaden herald]

are there any routines u recommend?

[pallid mural]

1hp site / yt channel

Also u can search specifically on yt “ push up wrist pain”

Im sure u will find useful stuff

[leaden herald]

thanks!

[radiant pollen]

For me push ups were hurting when i started now i dont have pain.

[leaden herald]

i used to do them all the time with no pain but now when i try it hurts likecrazy

[radiant pollen]

Is your form good ?

like hands open elbow parallel to the body

[leaden herald]

yes

[radiant pollen]

have u take a long break from training ?

[leaden herald]

yes a few months

[radiant pollen]

I think that it is the reason

[next crow]

this is a weird question but is there an objectively unhealthy cm/360.

[violet swan]

probably something like 100cm+ that requires a lot of arm movvement

you will strain your shoulder

100cm is maybe okay but i am sure anything that makes you feel painful or uncomfortable is just not for you.

Although just make sure you got the right posture in place before judging any CM/360 since posture plays a huge role in those cases. Anatomy as well since some people got wide shoulders, etcetera.

This video is perfect: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=locnPgVvRio

[next crow]

what about something like 2xm/360, is there anything unhealthy with that

because i totally dont use 2cm?360

[next crow]

[violet swan]

I've no idea in that case lol but I'd say no since you'll be doing little to no movement or you'll break your wrist trying to control it. 2CM/360 is just not feasible. Follow voltaic sens range and you should be OK

[next crow]

i was a big reeps96 fan and when i found out he uses 2cm/360 i copied him and enjoy playing on the sens, im just scared because even though he is a pro i dont know if you can get carpel tunnel syndrome or something from using a sens so "high"

the problem isnt aiming on the sens, its the fear that it can be harmful to my wrist or something even though i dont feel pain while using it

@violet swan you cant tell me this isnt cool https://twitter.com/i/status/1754174608125685921

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[violet swan]

You can do wrist stretches, exercises to prevent that and keep yourself on the safe side. An even better choice? Invest a wrist powerball or a light dumbbell. And yes, you might not feel the pain now but later on if you are not careful now.

I would say that you need to be really cautious using such a sensitivity since you're trying to replicate this type of aiming which usually results in people tensioning a lot etcetera to compensate for the insane speed. TL;DR, Too much tension = no good for your wrist.

And yes, it is cool but remember that after all it's a preference and what works for you may not work for others and vice versa. There is professionals using lower sens as well, aren't they cool too? :)

[next crow]

i used to use 70cm/360 then 30cm/360 and they hurt more than 2cm/360 hence why i taught myself how to use this sens, its weird because i felt more pain on norm....ldk

[violet swan]

Objective matter really. Did you have the right posture in place during your time using these sens? where was the pain?

This video depicts what you should be aiming for: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=locnPgVvRio

[next crow]

i genuinely belive i have good posture, i have a recored video of back then and looking it at its probably better than my posture now (i sit on my leg now)

k thanks

will chechk it out

the pain was in my shoulder btw

[narrow vigil]

thats totally not ok

[uneven ivy]

Unhealthy in a way where you'll not hit anything and lose your mind

[teal mural]

I struggle with wrist pain, even though I have like 0 tension in my arm, wrist, or fingers I fail to understand what I am doing wrong. I do daily stretches.

My boyfriend who also aim trains struggles from this as well. holding the minimum amount of tension possible to move the wrist, arm, or fingers and yet still have pain after a short time.

[pallid mural]

Might be fatigue built up from aimtraining + gaming for long periods a day for multiple weeks/ months

[teal mural]

possible as I literally cannot hold any less tension, and yet I'm still having strain extremely fast.

[pallid mural]

I would recommend pc volume reduction and strengthening the tendons of the whole upper body

[teal mural]

So stretches for the entire upper body?

[pallid mural]

Im suggesting whole upper body cuz its all connected, for example neck problem can cause finger problems etc

Mobility routine + strength routine

Exercising helps strengthen the body

[teal mural]

if it matters at all the wrist pain is caused when moving to the right specifically

not shaky when moving to the right, but painfull rather fast.

[pallid mural]

Ye the tendons there are less “built” compared to the left

[teal mural]

no pain on the left side, or when moving to the left.

So basically build them up, over time?

no better way to reduce strain, when moving to the right.

[pallid mural]

I meant that structurally even if u look at ur hand u will see the left has more bone etc, but ur answer is right aswell

Painful tendon needs less work then strengthening

Mobility routine can help alleviate tight spots that might pull on the tendon and make more space for it to move

I recommend checking 1hp site/ youtube

[teal mural]

I use 1hps wrist routines

daily

[pallid mural]

Stretch or strength

[teal mural]

injury prevention.

[pallid mural]

Can u give some examples so i know if its just stretches or strengthening exercises

[teal mural]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzjOCYkn8mY&t=633s&ab_channel=1HP

[pallid mural]

When did u start this

[teal mural]

about

a month and a half ago.

[pallid mural]

How many hours a day are u doing mouse movements

Probably overworked as i said above

[teal mural]

well it depends I am usually on for about 7 hours 2 spent aim training

I can't even get on for 30 minutes to aim train recently

wrist pain when I move to the right

[pallid mural]

Wow definitely reduce time on the pc then, at least until pain subsides, then slowly build up

Some recommend to even lock the wrist inplace for awhile but i dont think its necessary imo

[teal mural]

Alright.

[viscid dome]

I noticed my pinky really hurts after playing awhile anyone have any tips?

[past gazelle]

change your mouse grip

[viscid dome]

Im using claw rn

palm and fingertip just feel rly weird still

but thx ill try that

[past gazelle]

everything takes time to get used to it

[past gazelle]

does anyone here facing some problems with his university life?

i'm at my 2nd year in medical school and when ever i want to study i find myself playing or doing something else useless and that made me repeat the year and i don't know how exactly fixing this problem of being afraid that i will forget what i studied and keeps holding me from even looking at my note books and sheets. (that's embarrassing asking such a question here but i don't know where to ask.)

[plush quail]

can anyone else see their nose while gaming?

its only the right side

[uneven ivy]

Do you have glasses?

[plush quail]

don't wear them when i play but i do need glasses

[wooden birch]

anyone know why my hands are always cold no matter what I do

[uneven ivy]

Wear warmer core clothing

[wooden birch]

you think I haven't tried that

[pallid mural]

? Idk if u are but this sounded a bit too aggressive, hes tryin to help u

Anyways that could be a circulation issue

Google how to improve circulation to ur fingers

[uneven ivy]

stop smoking, start exercising, drink more water, sleep more, and if nothing works see a doctor

[open ivy]

Hey just went through the thread - happy to provide some more specifics about how you can look to approach this if you are looking for some individual guidance here. Pain when moving to the right is likely an issue of the ulnar deviators, most commonly we see ECU issues

If you haven't already checked out our free wrist pain guide - https://1-hp.org/gaming-wrist-pain/ It has specific exercises you can look to do that will target that area.

With respect to what KsyyZ had mentioned. The temporary reduction of PC time & load is definitely the right approach in modifying load however we can get a bit more specific with where the PC use will be reduced. Different activities on the PC have varying levels of strain on the wrist and hand. Just reduce the aim training by 50% for the next week. And then 1 hr for the other PC time.

This would mean 6 hrs PC, 15-20 min aim training. Nothing which irritates the area

[teal mural]

How would one go about building endurance and avoiding future injury?

[open ivy]

I think while a grip change can definitely be helpful in the short-term (and it being a potential contributor, but would require a more full evaluation to identify exact reason) it will be more beneficial to just beginning to do some exercises to strengthen the wrist & hand.

Specifically the muscles which control the pinky both in its ability to flex (provide fingertip pressure on mouse) or extend (when you pick up the mouse). I would actually try this more recent routine of mine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_7x46S3Nic&lc=Ugyx899-JRMSCE3FhOx4AaABAg

This can be helpful. Or check our our gaming wrist pain guide which I just posted which can potentially give you some specifics based on your region of discomfort

[viscid dome]

Got it, thank u!!

[open ivy]

Oh man alot of reasons

https://1-hp.org/blog/hpforgamers/coldhandswhilegaming/

Wrote an article a long time ago about this and the underlying physiology contributing to why we experience cold hands

[open ivy]

Good question, some nuance to this. GENERALLY it is just about doing exercises to strengthen the muscles that you use most frequently based on your grip, DPI, sens, mouse movement style, (among other individual variables).

By identifying the muscles you are using more frequently. You can perform specific endurance exercises for them. The routines we post are all general meaning they target a majority of the muscles but may not cover all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoedUZ4OpPY&t=2s

This video actually goes over the regions, what tye do and some more specifics. You would perform higher repetitions and sets (3x15-20) based on your current capacity.

But endurance itself doesn't reduce risk. It's about optimizing some of the other factors (lifestyle, posture, ergonomics). Lifestyle or your schedule is typically the other large contributor to risk of injury. What I mean by lifestyle is how long you are gaming with strenuous activities without breaks, are you even taking breaks? What are you doing within your breaks to reduce cumulative stress on tissues.

Posture & ergonomics are typically the smaller contributor (20% in most cases that we've treated)

Hopefully this makes sense but everyone's situation is different so those need to be accounted for in order to have the better indivdiualized program

[golden marsh]

I’m trying to get into med school

I wanna become a paramedic

[past gazelle]

I gradtuated as paramedic when i was in high school and i spent 2 years after high school to be a pharmacist i will graduate in 2 months but my main univirsty im studying to be a surgeon but i can't focus on my study at all when ever i want to study i found my self doing smth else that's useless and saying i will study tmru and the cyrcle keeps in

Im able to do my exams cuz im remember from my class when the professor explains but i can't focus on my notes when im home and forgetting what i studied

[plush quail]

why when i do these exercises i start to face more problems

back when i had alittle more serious issues around my wrist and forearm i tried doing these but it still never prevented it from happening just noticed it made me more tense afterwards and limiting my range of how far i can bend my wrist

also when i game i tend to see the right side of my nose while playing and it’s very distracting and really impacts my gameplay especially on kovaaks

[open ivy]

Really good question and really common especially wnen the muscles & tendons are a bit more irritable.

In certain cases when individuals (not saying you might fall into this situation but it's possible) have lower levels of physical activity (no exercise or movement), spend 10-12 hours on the PC daily for several years it can lead to decontioning which can really lower the capacity (think of it as HP) that the tissues can handle.

So even though it might not have been an issue before, the HP is gradually lowering from no conditioning of the wrist and hand. And eventually the tissue gets irritated. When someone in this position tries to do general prescribed exercises, it leads to continued irrtiation because it is not SCALED to the level of strength or resistance the individual can handle.

This is like giving a new weightlifter 30# for DB curls at a 3x10 volume. THey will not be able to handle it and likely will have more overall discomfort or pain

[open ivy]

Ultimately it's about finding yoru capacity in both exercises and how much you can handle without overloading and then gradually progressing / strengthening from there

[plush quail]

cant argue with the truth, that was me for almost two years and on top of that i had some struggles with losing weight so i can see how impactful that would’ve been, by any chance do you have some videos you would recommend for someone in my position i tend to over do things when they aren’t shown because i feel like i should be able to do more but then it bites me in my ass

[open ivy]

I really wish I could give you a video that would just cover every potential regression and progression based on the multiple variables out there but it's really depends on a multitude of factors. If some of my general routines have not been helpful for you or caused some irritation at most I would recommend doing 50% of the prescribed amount in those videos as a start

ultimaetly I always recommend our gaming wrist pain guide (free) as a initial start

https://1-hp.org/gaming-wrist-pain/

since its pain region specific

but from there in order to account for other things that might lead to the lack of progress or tolerance oef the exercise at a certain resistance would really recommend setting up a consult with us

https://1-hp.org/game-without-pain/

[plush quail]

by any chance do you think a lot of this could be caused by my shoulder blade because i do notice i do feel pain in that area also and i’ve speculated that it could be the root cause but of course i don’t know

[open ivy]

It's a possible contributor but depends on how that area behaves and the overall posture / etc.

[plush quail]

ok reached out for a consultant thank you, last question not to sure if this would be in you’re area of expertise but do you know why i see my right side of my nose when i game and when i use my phone it can get super distracting

[open ivy]

Hmm not our main competency but can ask around our internal provider network to see if anyone migiht have an idea. Can likely discuss more in the consultation

[plush quail]

ok thank you that would be extremely appreciated has been something i’ve been dealing with some time now

[wet iron]

How long should I rest for if I stopped when my wrist started feeling tired?

[uneven ivy]

When is the last time you've gone for a eye sight test?

[torn forge]

I know this isn’t the place for it mybe but I’m on my road to lose weight and start eating healthier bcs of my recent heart problems… I am atm 170cm and have almost 90kg, I work heavy duty job for 9-10 hours a day (construction), I calculated I need around 2.8-3k calories a day and I do around 5-5.5k a day atm… Could someone help me start some diet plan? I can cook and live to cook, but I would like to hear some examples from you people in chat

[hardy thicket]

i dont really cook and not a big eater, but i have heard from friends that when they started, they tried to cut out a lot of saturated fat

and slowly cut out like a meal a day

[uneven ivy]

Soup

[plush quail]

around 8months ago

is this something that isn’t normal?

[uneven ivy]

I mean I have a lazy eye/crooked eye so if I'm without my glasses I can see that some effect. Idk how you're playing games without glasses and not getting a headache tho, if u have crooked eyes

[prime spear]

do you guys have any recs other than caffeine for adhd auto pilot / lack of focus especially during long sessions of gaming / aim training

[plush quail]

not sure never thought i necessarily needed them because i only really have trouble seeing from far

[naive sparrow]

why do my fingers click when i open my hands fast

[copper spindle]

i need help trying to play a static task and my arm is tensing and hurting no matter how much i try to relax what could be causing this

[uneven ivy]

Medication

[plush quail]

other than the obvious stuff what helped me is listening to calm music still dealing with it my self but setting goals before games or before you aim train has helped me focus alittle more

[exotic solstice]

cardio

preferably running

[latent venture]

How do u guys get ur time to play videogames, i wanna do aimtraining and vor reviewing but with work i get like 2-3 hours of gaming in a day so if i do theese things i cant really game a lot, also working out and eating good and healthy and getting enoth sleep takes up too much time. How do i get more time 😦

[turbid fossil]

Certainly. Here is an aim training schedule for someone low on time:

Schedule for NoseBleedHero
Sleep for 10 hours
Prepare and consume food for 1 hour
Expel waste for 1 hour
Work for 6 hours
Aim train for 6 hours

Make sure to maintain your schedule consistently for maximum aim training benefit!

[cosmic geyser]

I notice a lot of eye/visual strain when I'm doing certain long-strafe tracking scenarios like VT Suavetrack for example. Never had any issues in the past with static/switching before, which makes me believe motion blur is the problem. Are there some monitor or in-game settings i can change to combat this?

[civic tangle]

i took a little break from gaming and these days im back but i barely play fps games and aim training. but i have noticed that when i aim train i feel this weird exhaustion or idk muscle tightening at my inner elbow. i cant finish a flick task without this happening and it really makes me slow down. it feels like when you do a dead hang for as long as you can and then when you come down your forearms really tighten idk

[normal atlas]

does not eating before playing hinder your performance by a lot or am i just bad at aiming?

[regal plank]

hey i was wondering about wrist aiming since you can get carpal tunnel from using it , is it really that bad ?

[jovial rain]

absolute opposite for me. after my evening meal im way worse. digestion is much work for the body

[regal plank]

True

[plush quail]

i think it might be bad to only target using ur wrist but if you have a sens were you use wrist with a mix of arm and fingers you should be fine

[shell lake]

do you need rest days for aimtraining like the gym does?

I have went on for a month straight with no days relaxed on aim at the end of the day ending with aim and this just shot into my head as a gym rat after a back day strugling to controll my forearms a lil

[uneven ivy]

Aim training is mostly mentally exhausting, so you can quickly reach a point where you're not really getting a benefit from it. But like, a bit every day should be fine. Your brain recovers during sleep, faster than muscles.

[vast lodge]

@regal frost this guy could use some help

[blissful surge]

and with starvation you cant put your focus on the game

[normal atlas]

after every 2 comp games, should i take a break for 5 mins or is that too short of a break?

i know i still have the skill

[normal atlas]

also anyone experiences uh, shaking with your foreamrs

i kinda feel it when i use it to aim, im not used to using my foreams

[normal atlas]

also, does posture have short term effects? like better in game performance or is it just for long term stuff

whicvh i will be very thankful for in my 30's?

[violet swan]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[normal atlas]

thanksz

[patent inlet]

is it normal that i can feel muscle activation in my forearms while aim training/deathmatching in valorant

its not like pain its legit like a forearm pump

i think im accidentally flexing a muscle unconsciously maybe

idk

[grizzled talon]

idk if putting it there but, should i do a wrist warmup before playing?

do I make me understand?

[noble trellis]

unless youre experiencing pain currently from your posture or messing up stability/rom you wont find any improvements in ingame performance

[normal atlas]

im not really having pain

but my mouse sensor gets al ittle bit janky when my arm is too high up the mousepad

or too low

[eager breach]

Good Sleep + eating + drinking a lot of water helps a lot with being more alert/better reaction time and flicks

[glossy chasm]

Any idea why my hand hurts less when using some mouse weights?

[violet swan]

is there something wrong with the height of my table? It's less apparent in kovaaks but whenever I play apex I just get this light sore on my bicep/rotator cuffs and my elbow and i feel like it has an effect on my keypresses and tracking

[pallid mural]

Likely tensing to compensate for mouse control (harder to control a lighter mouse in most cases)

And tensing less on a bit heavier

[pallid mural]

Try being a bit higher, this can also be caused from repeated stress everyday for long hours and bad posture

[woeful grotto]

i got a wrist question..

[pallid mural]

I recommend a bit less pc volume and mobility routine from 1hp

[woeful grotto]

whenever im tracking with my wrist and not my arm, if i ever go past like 25 degrees to the right, my tracking starts to shudder and stutter real bad

(this is while paying attention to my tention btw)

im not grippin like crazy

[pallid mural]

Mobility routine + smoothness training + combine arm wrist and fingers when tracking(shoulder as well )

[woeful grotto]

does that just come with practice/unused muscle is weak or is it a medical thing i should look at

[woeful grotto]

thats the thing i need to fix this cause its really apparent

[pallid mural]

Just regular mouse control and maybe some mobility restriction nothing serious

We all had shaky aim in the beginning and it will also shake if stressin too much

[woeful grotto]

idk its just my wrist has always been rediculously shaky and i didnt realise how bad it was till i decided to boot up kovaaks yesteraday

it feels super out of my controll tho, like i can focous on my hand and arm and feel all the muscles relaxing but for some reason i cant keep it smooth

[pallid mural]

Ye cuz ur smoothness skill needs work

Aiming is mostly static and smoothness

[woeful grotto]

only reason i noticed it was in smoothness scenarios so i started to focous on the issue and if i lock my wrist and only use arm i do a hell of alot better but anything that involves my wrist ends in overshooting or jitters or muscle spasm but ill keep at the smoothness bots for a few more days and see if it improves

[pallid mural]

Ye u can train ur wrist specifically but remember to use all muscles still

Whats ur sens on tracking

[woeful grotto]

ye i know to aim you need to use everything its just my arm is so far ahead of my wrist in terms of tracking i need to specialise in my wrist for a bit

[pallid mural]

Cool 👍

[woeful grotto]

500 dpi 9.5 ow 103 fov

no accel

[pallid mural]

Im actually using my left hand cuz my right is injured, can u tell me the cm value on gamingsmart.com

[woeful grotto]

29.17 cm/360

its a little high

ik

[pallid mural]

Try training on 35 for a bit is what i would do

[woeful grotto]

but ive been through the whole find your sens journey and by far this is the best comfort/performance

[woeful grotto]

il try this

whats the science behind it?

[pallid mural]

A bit more smoothness automatically

And easier to train on

While still not being too low to reduce wrist usage and smoothness requirement

U can return to 30 whenever u want

[woeful grotto]

my b im stoopid

[pallid mural]

All good

[woeful grotto]

forgot that increased 360 is inversely proportional to sens

thought you ment higher sens = smoother

[pallid mural]

Yep its common to get confused by it

[violet swan]

thanks for replying! I will see if raising my seat height helps

[woeful grotto]

trying it rn and its smoother but i fear its only because the jitters are = to less pixels

the issue of the spasms in the wrist motion are still happening its just less noticeble and i wanna eradicate it completely

[pallid mural]

Ye now it will be easier to train smoothness

Recheck in 2 weeks

Rank and routine?

I recommend everyday smoothness training

[woeful grotto]

i know it take time, i just wanted a more professional confirmation weather or not you think it IS something that will go away with practice, before i put hours and hours into training it

casue for all i know i just have an essential tremmor

but if its super common for most players then ill just keep going at it

[pallid mural]

Im pretty sure its smoothness issue

But i dont see ur hand so idk

Its beneficial to train smoothness anyway

Even if u have legit tremors

[woeful grotto]

just feels like within the first 20 secconds of tracking its fine

and withing like a 40 degree span

but when i get outside of that its almost like my mouse is snagging on the pad and then lurching super far forward

but its just my muscles bugging out

[pallid mural]

Maybe they’re not used to control in that rom (training) or weak (training)

Or lack mobility (mobility training 😎)

[woeful grotto]

i only know the noob terms

never heard of a "mobility" bot to train

reccomendations...?

[pallid mural]

Noo 😆 physical mobility

[woeful grotto]

lol

[pallid mural]

To increase muscle rom (range of motion ) and stability through the range

[woeful grotto]

never heard range of motion as rom before that makes a lot more sense

[pallid mural]

Haha ye

Its extra popular on fitness forums

[woeful grotto]

my first thought was i dont really use that muscle very often its prolly just weak outside of a certain degree of motion, but ive had finger tremmors my whole life (not noticible enough to affect micro adjustments) but i just wonder if my wrist is suffering the same thing

no way to know except keep grinding ig

[pallid mural]

Glhf

Eating sleep and physical activity helps all human activity so its good to do regularly and with quality

My fingers can feel weird if i play a lit without eating

[woeful grotto]

at my peak physical activity i was a fit 14yr old who played soccer every day, still couldnt click the heads when i hopped on sige every night tho

[pallid mural]

xD

[woeful grotto]

okay yeah im pretty sure its weak ass muscle

spent like 5 mins typing and first track on after that was smooth as butter, but 2 secconds later it got shaky

[glossy chasm]

should I use weights then for tensing less or focus on control on my lighter mouse?

[faint bear]

everytime I do the Wrist stretch and posture guide in #resources a lot of my bones in my hands crack is this normal

cause I used to crack my fingers but for some reason my wrist crack too

[pallid mural]

Ur choice, tension control will improve regardless

[pallid mural]

Its fine

[proven meteor]

What am I doing wrong here? Is it tension or pressure? Recently every time I go to put down my arm on my desk to aim I feel it numbing up, at first I thought it was my new arm sleeve being a bit tight but I have tested without it and still happens, it started to affect me outside of playing games so I am stopping for now but, what can I do so it doesnt happen again?

[normal atlas]

so, aim training is mentally exhausting right and how do you prevent the exhaustion and do it like the pros?

do I just be optimistic

[regal plank]

hey i was wondering how badly does sitting position, desk and chair height affect your aim ? i am like 160cm, my feet ain't touching the ground, and my table is so tall that it makes my arms flare out when i put it on the table, is this why i can't move my arm properly and use it for aiming ?

[pallid mural]

Tendon issue, figure out which tendon is irritated and why

Can be from neck to fingertip

Start doing full upper body mobility routine and reduce volume pc

[pallid mural]

Its important for performance but mostly ur health, use a pillow below u

Or a higher chair

[pallid mural]

They get used to it over time and doing scheduled mini breaks and refueling helps aswell

[proud belfry]

i feel like my hand shakes a lot and twitches even whilst relaxed. for example, a lot of the time when laying my hand on my girlfriends thigh she says she can always feel me shaking and twitching. or another example if i just position my hand on my mousepad as if i was holding a mouse i think i can feel my hands shake a little

and also whilst i track a target ill be really nice a smooth, at a consistent speed, then my hand will just like twitch and all of a sudden ive just jumped forward in front of the target... is there any possible way to fix this sort of thing?

[shell blaze]

Is it normal after challenging yourself with harder to do scenarios to have headaches?

[pallid lynx]

if it feels like math than yeah

it could be not as good if it doesn't feel like a math headache

non scientific or health practitioner opinion 😛

[naive sparrow]

idk if its the exercises ive been doing or what but now my wrist shakes when i rotate it like when i go to scoop something like dog food or preworkout and pour it out when i twist my wrist it gets all shakey idk why

[pallid mural]

If its after exercise its understandable

[naive sparrow]

no its like right now

i normally do them at night

all ive done today was just played some ranked

maybe its because ive been doing the exercise too recently?

[uneven ivy]

Stretch

[dapper ermine]

jelq

[lilac wagon]

should i workout after I aim train?

or can i do it before

[quaint talon]

ima be honest ive felt the same thing ever since i started going to the gym

[proud belfry]

^

[rapid iris]

so how is this masterclass going to be held? Through VC or will it be documented properly for others that havent seen it

[high mica]

Am I stupid or is it impossible to get a decent amount of my arms on the table AND upholding the 90 degree angle? The table is just literally in the way and I'm not even 'big'

If I only have my forearms or like half of my forearms on the table it's a lot more tougher and borderline annoying to play on a low sens (like 45cm/360)

[dusk summit]

guys what does it mean when you have pain in your eyes? more specifically moving them in all directions and a pain directed towards the back of them

have had it for days now

[uneven ivy]

Have you watched faraway objects

[dusk summit]

yeah i tend to practice TS with a very high FOV and have been grinding that for the past few days is that why?

paid off except for this pain i got going on LOL

[uneven ivy]

No I mean like look out the window every now and then

IRL

[dusk summit]

ohhh

no

i have not

[uneven ivy]

See if that helps. I've placed my PC in front of a window so it's pretty easy for me

[sand birch]

How far apart should I have my hand on my keyboard, and my hand on my mouse?

[modest notch]

posture for playing?

[lilac wagon]

check pinned messages

[modest notch]

tysm

[calm plaza]

Anyone know how I can improve self control

Because I say to myself that I’m gonna go to bed on time or I’m going to focus on revising etc but I end up going to bed late and doing 1 question and getting distracted

[onyx oriole]

Guys how do I start working out again?,A problem I have with consistency with all activities is that the moment i get bad sleep 1 time and when I get bad or not enough sleep I tend to not have energy I tend to just not do it,should I push myself anyway or is that my body telling me it's a bad idea?

Also how much sugary drink in a day is too much,I tend to make drinks with cordials or drinks with coco powder with 1,5-2 tablespoon of condensed milk or tea with 2-4 tablespoon of sugar.

[crimson glacier]

get consistent good sleep first then work on working out

[crimson glacier]

set alarms/reminders. write down on paper saying youre gonna sleep at blank time. dont do jumps that you think r too big like sleeping at 10pm when u usually sleep at 2am

[tepid dawn]

You can buy an adjustable chair

I'm having the same fuckin problem.

[high mica]

But that won't magically make my stomach able to travel through the table, no?

It's like I need a cut part out of it

[patent inlet]

is it normal to have wrist pain

from aiming

playing val and stuff

[turbid fossil]

Sometimes a stripe of dark substance appears on my nose.

This happens frequently after drinking coffee (often within an hour).

What do you think is the cause of this? Not sure if its normal or not, but my family says its weird.

When I google blood on nose, I only get results for nosebleeds, which I haven’t had in many years, but idk what it is then

[pallid mural]

Google a more specific term

Like “ black stripe appear nose coffee”

Try things like that

[marble granite]

Hello, i have been playing aimlab for few years 2 weeks ago i was playing it for 6-7 hours a day and then i wasnt able to control my pinky and ring finger anytime i use wrist or fingertips or anything that moves those 2 fingers, i went to a doctor and did a electromyogram the doctor said it is normal but probably its something else and its a lifetime thing, i cant be able to put tension on the 2 fingers or they will get worse and worse till maybe the ulnar nerve is fully injured, he said there is nothing to fully fix it, i feel like i dont believe that, can you help with any advice?

[uneven ivy]

rest and change your grip

[marble granite]

i rested for 15 days, it didnt work, once i got back it got worse again, and my grip is just palm so nothing wrong with it i think?

[uneven ivy]

clearly there must be something wrong if it causes this

[turbid fossil]

That doesnt return good results either

[pallid mural]

Hmm kinda weird, u might want to get checked

Deficiencies / doc opinion on this (skin profession)

[uneven ivy]

Does it wash off

[turbid fossil]

Yeah

[pallid mural]

Search black oil face coffee maybe

I thought it stays there lol

[uneven ivy]

have you tasted it??

[turbid fossil]

ah no, it washes off quickly

[turbid fossil]

That may be a good idea

[pallid mural]

Mobility routine for whole upper body

Start exercising as well

Plus reduced pc time

Wishing u speedy recovery

[proven meteor]

Can anyone help me figure out what I have? I thought I was dealing with carpal tunnel syndrome with the only difference that I get the symptoms all the way to my bicep, sometimes the shoulder, I just did some exercises and they helped a lot but now the same symptoms started to develop in my left arm so now im confused... My appointment is in 3 weeks so im on my own for a while

[pallid mural]

Quit gaming for 2 days, do a full mobility routine twice a day, u should feel a lot better

When u do game, do frequent breaks

Of a few minutes to loosen the body

Keep good posture throughout the day

[proven meteor]

Where can I find a routine?

[pallid mural]

Youtube and 1hp site / channel

Also pinned comments here

[wispy silo]

I have a little bit of astigmatism on my less dominant eye (left eye).
I’m going to start doing exercises to make my vision less blurry
I’m assuming using an eye patch for long periods would change my eye dominance after like 3 days. Would simply taking off the eye patch revert back to my right eye or would I need to cover left

[ripe goblet]

why not get some glasses

[wispy silo]

I do but that doesn’t really fix astigmatism

Also I just want to strengthen my left eye

[ripe goblet]

i have one in my left eye as well

[wispy silo]

Ah unlucky 😪

[ripe goblet]

i havent tried glasses yet but thats what my eye doctor recommended

one real lens one fake

15/20

[wispy silo]

Yea, when they make yur senses they mark where your pupils are to correct for astigmatism
Feels fine with glasses tbh

Lenses*

[uneven ivy]

Is this diagnosis by a doctor or your idea of it?

[wispy silo]

Doctor told I have astigmatism

It was my idea was for eyepatch tho
But I looked it up and it’s actually a thing

[uneven ivy]

Funny thing which might be or might not be related is that around 50% of people with ADHD have astigmatism

And I can say my vision and focus is much better after both getting glasses and starting medication

[wispy silo]

💀 that’s funny

[uneven ivy]

And personally I can say that just looking out of the window at faraway objects helps a lot

(that's why my PC is next to the window)

[wispy silo]

Ooo nice
It’s really good to practice going from screen to far away objects

To strengthen eyes

[uneven ivy]

yeah, well I think it "rests" your eye more than trains them

[wispy silo]

That’s one of the things I’m trying as I work in my left

[uneven ivy]

And I also have glasses with a lot of correction for my less dominant eye

[wispy silo]

Ah nice
My glasses are lowk soo outdated
I think they are 5 years old 😭

I had more recent ones but they broke and I never went to eye doctor since

[uneven ivy]

Probably should book an appointment then

I used to get major head aches due to having no glasses or improper glasses

[wispy silo]

Yeaa :/

[uneven ivy]

I think getting glasses is one of the cheapest and quickest things anyone can do to improve their wellbeing so I would just do it and think about it later haha

[patent inlet]

It started yesterday so when I do pretty much anything on my mouse my index finger starts feeling really weird i dont know how to explain it like its not pain its not tingling

kinda like if it was half asleep idk

and i feel a tiny bit of that in my pinky aswell

but if i go and play videogames i feel like a burning sensation in my wrist and hand

not a painful one tho

just a sensation but none of these symptoms im having are painful just wanna make sure

what could be the cause to these things

?

Even after TYPING on my keyboard with both of my hands and scrolling some discord and youtube with my mouse my index finger feels that same kinda half asleep awkward feeling.

its minimal enough that it wouldnt bother or make me quit playing but im just conserned if im developing something bad

I play mostly valorant and probably like 2.5-3h of aimlabs a week and im not like a nolifer but i probably average like 3h of valorant/aimlab a day in normal weeks

though ive been playing more the past 5 days cus of sick

[uncut pawn]

I recently been obsessed with aim training, and i recently start feeling pain in my forearm tendon, should i go to the doctor or it should heal by resting?

[pallid mural]

Its not out of the norm, reduce pc volume and intensity, do mobility routine twice a day and exercise, 1hp youtube and site can help

Mobility for whole upper body btw

[uncut pawn]

Should i start today or wait till the pain is gone?

[uneven ivy]

Pretty sure any kind of stretches can be safely done right away. Obviously if you feel like something is broken, see a doctor.

[hollow minnow]

i do this sometimes

[wispy silo]

Bro I realize how bad my eyes are from trying to do that 😭

It’s like weirdly frustrating

Like my eyes can’t adjust so my brain feels angry 💀

[hollow minnow]

lmfao. if i have been gaming extremely long like +8 hours straight or smth and i try it, it takes sooo long for my eyes to correctly focus but after a few seconds it feels fine

[wispy silo]

Yeaa, I need to make it a habit

I’m gonna start reading books
After 1 page you focus on something in the distance for awhile and resume

[hollow minnow]

you know what my brain really hates? the fact that i can decouple vergence from accommodation

[wispy silo]

What’s that mean lol 😅

[hollow minnow]

vergence is like where ur looking and how much ur eyes are pointing inwards. and accommodation is ur focus, like how blurry it is

so like

for example i can converge my eyes very much (cross my eyes) but still keep my accommodation far away so its not blurry

because usually when ur looking at something very close to you, the background gets blurry

[wispy silo]

Ohh wth

I’m like trying it rn

Lol

[hollow minnow]

and when these 2 things dont match, the brain gets conflicting info from the eyes and therefor i get a headache

[wispy silo]

Yeaa

[hollow minnow]

the uncomfy feeling u get is called VAC

lol

theres a wiki

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vergence-accommodation_conflict

[wispy silo]

Bro taught me like 5 terms lol

[hollow minnow]

lmfao

have u ever tried those autostereograms

where u relax ur cross ur eyes to get a 3d image

[wispy silo]

DUUUDE
I keep seeing those vids but I can never do them

Makes my eyes and brain hurt

[hollow minnow]

im pro at them 😎

[wispy silo]

Damn

[hollow minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/stereogram-glitch-gif-12563068

[shadow orbit]

sharky

[slow remnant]

anyone know any ways to help with sweaty hands while gaming?
when i play for not even 10-20 mins i produce an actually decent amount of sweat and i feel like it reduces my performence a lot, especially while using mousepads

sucks tbh

[uneven ivy]

Wash your hands and your mouse regularly, have a towel near you

[cobalt mountain]

im super horny for characters, esspecially moira and loba, soeome help

[uneven ivy]

take a shower and go to sleep

[cobalt mountain]

its 5pm here in australia

[uneven ivy]

Did I stutter?

[cobalt mountain]

yes

[tepid dawn]

Guys is that normal that after playing 1/1:30h of tracking scenarios i get wrist ache while doing more than 2h of static/dynamic does nothing?

[tepid dawn]

I think an arm sleeve that covers ur wrist can help u a lot

[patent inlet]

does anyone have a clue of what it could be

[ripe goblet]

too much computer. stretch your hands/wrists/fingers and move your body more

[patent inlet]

ig

ive been sick for a week but usually lift 2h a day and got 7h of school

[uneven ivy]

If you're lifting a lot you need to stretch a lot

You could have a lot of stiff muscles in your arms, especially in small areas like hands, fingers, wrists. HP1 has great exercises for those

[patent inlet]

ye rn im just taking a break from val and aimtrainers and stretching a bit

[regal plank]

should you lean on your chair when playing or lean more into the monitor ?

[uneven ivy]

The more of your back and body that touches the chair, the better

leaning into the monitor isn't dangerous in short bursts tho, but if you do that, you should get out of your chair periodically and rest your back on the chair from time to time

[regal plank]

cus my only my lumbar on the spine touches me while the rest of my body is just upright

my table is quite tall so when i lean my whole back onto the chair, my arm is just flat on the table

[uneven ivy]

Can you lower the table/make the chair higher/pull the chair closer

[regal plank]

my chair is maximum height and my table is build into a structure so it is unfortunate news for me

[uneven ivy]

If it's causing you issues, getting a new table will probably have the best $/benefit ratio

[ember dagger]

I play relatively low sens (between 35-50cm) and if I aim train too much in a week I get pain in my shoulder, are there any warmup exercises for this? I've tried doing some light internal and external rotation stuff with a band but it doesn't feel like its helped too much

[solar loom]

hi, at work i use cameras daily and my hand has started to hurt here, and the more frequently i use it, the more it hurts

[thorn jungle]

Any quick fixes for tennis elbow?

[patent inlet]

ive gotten it from lifting (or atleast had the symptoms) a few times and its just gone away with rest

like not doing push days for like a week

[patent inlet]

i used to play 81.64cm/360 and didnt get this wow

i play like 60cm now tho

[stark kraken]

advice for shoulder pain ?

[shell lake]

what kind I am a gym nerd might be able to help

the shoulder

[shell lake]

like sitting at the desk if your elbow is unsupported it might hurt due to shoulders getting tired and for aiming generally you keep your forearm on the desk so it might be just wrong way of sitting.

also if it is in gym setting u might just gave poor stabilizer muscles in your shoulders, working on those is not that hard if your gym has bands there are also things you can do just in your room with a book

so keep forearm on desk most of it and that helps me with not getting tired while gaming and also for aiming

[stark kraken]

I have 90-70% of my arm on the desk rn

[stark kraken]

as for gym settings my main exercise for soldier is mostly pull ups variations and push up, other than that some 5kg dumbbells for the smaller muscles group

side lateral rise*

[shell lake]

is it placed down or hoverring over the desk mb ur chair is too hight or the otherway around too low and ur arm is pushed up

[shell lake]

low shoulder volume cuz such a small muscle recovers fast if you want it to grow train it more offen with two isolation exc also incorpirate some stabilaty work might help

[stark kraken]

I have my arm is a bit of angle as my mousepad is quite big

[stark kraken]

tryna stay slim and compact here not trying to gain volume

[shell lake]

is it possibe to see a photo or something in your general gaming sitting way cuz describing in words is hard

[shell lake]

then just adding stabilaty work will do the trick

[shell lake]

a bit of an angle is questionable terms cuz I know a classmate who said he sits at a bit of an angle and during a programing class bro sat with his spine facing the left as his torso looked forwards

so idk what you consider a bit

[stark kraken]

might be possible

not rn tho

still outside

[shell lake]

fair

tuch grass lmao

[stark kraken]

resting rn

[shell lake]

fair

also what kind of gym goer are u that does not want to pack on size cuz this is the first time I have heard of that

like a powerlifter with an already substantial amount of muscle mass just working on strength

or just on a cut?

[stark kraken]

pretty much I’m a cyclist and hiker

[shell lake]

oh endurance athlete

cool

I love bikes but curently do not have one due to old one messing up on the chain loosening and falling off offen

[stark kraken]

its a pain tbh

get roadbike

better

u’ll have giga thigh

[shell lake]

it was a city bike the old one

like thin tire stuff

[stark kraken]

ic ic

[shell lake]

imma look into that but later rn do not have the money just bought a new monitor and kinda want to not spend for a little bit.

[stark kraken]

well that kind of bike is heavy af

[shell lake]

I have some decent muscle on my legs already but more size is not unwelcome

[stark kraken]

well if you don’t cycle often and long its not worth to buy

[stark kraken]

XD

I pretty much just exercise for health

[shell lake]

I would use it evry day to get to the gym faster cuz it is a 30min walk

[stark kraken]

not really shredded or muscular guy here

[shell lake]

I am just muscle and some fat rn doin a cut so I am decently sized as a person

[stark kraken]

man just get a normal bike then 😂

[shell lake]

yea fairs

[stark kraken]

pretty much 173cm with 80kg rn

so yea

[shell lake]

but heavy sounds better cuz it might break less

[stark kraken]

pretty chunky myself

[shell lake]

I am 184cm with 98.8kg as of this morning weigh in

[stark kraken]

holy

u’re tall af then 😂

[shell lake]

Lithuanian so avrage hight for my land for a male is 180cm I am basicly bearley above avrage where I am

[stark kraken]

ic ic

Indonesian here

[shell lake]

cool

[stark kraken]

dunno the average height here

[shell lake]

lemme look it up

[stark kraken]

alrite

[shell lake]

men are 163.55cm

so ur tall for ur land

I feel short in my own classes cuz one dude is 2m and 11cm tall in my class lol

I ask bro how many steps it takes to get to poland with them long legs he said more than 5 lol

[stark kraken]

holy

man hiking with long cloth is painful