apex

[alpine trail]

the only difference with me on 34 cm vs 42 is on 34 my wrist tenses up more when tracking far distance but i still stay smooth

like the base of my wrist

[turbid condor]

Ite so here me out, I have dyspraxia right so shit hand eye coordination and fine motor control etc, ive usually played around 35cm since ive started aim training properly, I just feel like id benefit from a lower sens (43cm) but im not sure tbh lmao. just feels pretty low but like i find on my current sens im inconsistent and not smooth. For example,I might want to move my wrist with a certain amount of force but sometimes it moves considerably faster or further than I was intending. this is what I said in #advice

[alpine trail]

but I was shaky at first

[viscid wraith]

brother i have dead sections of my brain in my motor skills cortexes or whatever, dont let it stop you unless it causes pain lmao

[true ravine]

play on 20 and you'll improve on 37

[alpine trail]

you don't have shit anything

I've played w you and watched you play

your aim is great you just focus too much on the wrong things

[turbid condor]

play kovaaks on 20cm or game

yeh but like I focus too much on aiming lmao that's my problem

[viscid wraith]

aight im out flights is hitting his stride

[alpine trail]

how much apex have you played recently

bc you're always on cs

and OW

[turbid condor]

idk

[alpine trail]

bc you won't come on with 20 hours past 2 weeks and be crylix

[turbid condor]

my aim on Cs makes my aim shit on apex lol

crylix plays 43 😉

[alpine trail]

bottom line is what someone plays won't be good for everyone

like that guy was amazed at the fact I play 1k dpi cause its so random

if you find something that works stick with it, if you want to make something work, practice it

but if you give yourself excuses etc and just shift every ounce of focus into your aim then you will have good aim but be shit at apex

[turbid condor]

Fine motor co-ordination skills (small movements):

Lack of manual dexterity. Poor at two-handed tasks, causing problems with using cutlery, cleaning, cooking, ironing, craft work, playing musical instruments

Poor manipulative skills. Difficulty with typing, handwriting and drawing. May have a poor pen grip, press too hard when writing and have difficulty when writing along a line

Inadequate grasp. Difficulty using tools and domestic implements, locks and keys

Difficulty with dressing and grooming activities, such as putting on makeup, shaving, doing hair, fastening clothes and tying shoelaces

[velvet orchid]

solution

just play ranked

and learn how to actually play the game

[turbid condor]

yeh that's what I do lol

[velvet orchid]

not ape everyone you see

[alpine trail]

but your aim is good mate I have seen you

[velvet orchid]

gg

so easy

[alpine trail]

your aim isn't your issue man

[turbid condor]

so should I just stick to 37cm and aim train on like 20 lol

[velvet orchid]

no

stop giving a fuck about your sens

and play the game

sens doesnt matter

[alpine trail]

legit stop aim training for 1 week

and play only apex

[turbid condor]

what sens should I play then

[velvet orchid]

stop

giving

[turbid condor]

1.4 1.2

[velvet orchid]

fuck about your sens

it doesnt matter

[turbid condor]

I can't decide tho

[velvet orchid]

dude

pick one

[alpine trail]

ok go 1.3

in between

[velvet orchid]

and forget it

[alpine trail]

and stop playing kovaaks for 1 week

play apex

train aim in firing range do 1v1's play ranked do arena

solo q no fill

just play the game

[rugged reef]

My dreams

[alpine trail]

i wish apex aim trainer had like

more customization you know

bc its really fun

[velvet orchid]

wish people realized br requires game sense

not apeing everyone

[alpine trail]

speaking of

I made like 200 rp apeing master ranked lobbies

it was fun

[velvet orchid]

monkey see red monkey attack

[alpine trail]

but tbh I was trying to learn how to aggro gibby

tryna become lou part 2

[velvet orchid]

and like anyone with functioning arms and brain can make it to diamond

if you queue with premadew

[turbid condor]

gibby seems fun

[alpine trail]

I am maining gibby from now on

I got heirloom

and no one ik takes the time to really learn and main him

and 99% situations I always hear or say fuck we could've won w a gibby

never octane or ash or whatever

[velvet orchid]

yeah

if you play premade gibby must be nice

[rugged reef]

I think I’ve seen a lot of gibby and Valk

[bright elm]

if you play 37, play 20

[velvet orchid]

because theyre both broken as it gets

[bright elm]

sorry not 20

30

playing 20 won't benefit you because of how drastically different 37 and 20 are

[alpine trail]

apex is so saturated of kunai spinners

if you want to be known as a good player you need a more broad skill set

[bright elm]

unless you are specifically practicing wrist/finger smoothness

just use anything from 35 - 28

[velvet orchid]

wraith isnt even good solo

your ult is essentially useless

[alpine trail]

not even just that man how many people do you find when you are lfg

"I can only play wraith normally i guess I could try gibby"

and they are dog

[velvet orchid]

its not because theyre bad at gibby

its because theyre bad at the game

[alpine trail]

and realistically unless they remove gibby's dome and make it a survival item for everyone he will always be S tier

[rugged reef]

I don’t think I have the confidence to play gibby since I’ve heard that bad gibby bubbles just lose your team fights

[turbid condor]

u got his heirloom?

[velvet orchid]

cant possibly comprehend how to play the game if you dont have get out of jail card

[keen yoke]

just delete gibby

[alpine trail]

yeah @turbid condor

[turbid condor]

sick

[velvet orchid]

gibby valk and caustic premade

gg

[turbid condor]

did u buy it for like £400

@alpine trail

[alpine trail]

bought 5 packs

[turbid condor]

fr?

damn

[alpine trail]

and got it on the 3rd was in discord w johnny and rimes hahaha

had 550 coins

[turbid condor]

my next heirloom will prolly be gibby

damn

I'd buy an heirloom this anniversary but it's February right?

I'm buying a 240hz soon so

[alpine trail]

do you think jitter aiming works in apex aim trainer

lol

lets test

[velvet orchid]

so close to getting unstuck

[ashen trench]

8th

[turbid condor]

yh fuck

[mellow kestrel]

just realized discord was like

destroying my frametimes or something

i can actually track now, sick

[ashen trench]

https://medal.tv/games/apex-legends/clips/9tiN3uzzfj-yG/d13375M8VGL0?invite=cr-MSxPRWwsNzk3NDgwOCw bouncey

[turbid condor]

wym

like only now or has always been

[mellow kestrel]

has been for a good while

[ashen trench]

is

[mellow kestrel]

also have had random stutters all the time for super long

[ashen trench]

discord hardwere accel on

[mellow kestrel]

seems fixed

no it wasn't

[ashen trench]

hm

[mellow kestrel]

turning it on fixed ig

also using TS now

[ashen trench]

ye

i use it

[mellow kestrel]

that shit is cursed

i can actually follow targets with my eyes now

its like going from 60hz to 144 again

[turbid condor]

yeh same

how did u fix it with discord?

wait u turned hardware accel on wtf?

[keen yoke]

Hardware acceleration can actually help if you have a decent gpu

With it off, discord will use your CPU to render things and CPU rendering can be expensive if you don't have a CPU good enough to handle it

[turbid condor]

yeh I have a good gpu

2070 super

might have to try using it

but sometimes my game fps drops lol

rarely but does happen

[mellow kestrel]

i was told to turn it off too

never again

no fucking wonder i've been washed for like 2 months

[little verge]

Is that bronze bug still in the game, or am I seriously seeing that many brand new accounts in diamond?

[keen yoke]

Bug

[turbid condor]

my discord streams are also dogshit lmao, I habe good pc good Internet and like 2 fps on roblox lmao

[little verge]

Should have guessed they'd have yet to fix something in the game from the start.

[keen yoke]

They'll probably fix it in 2027

Only to break it again

[mellow kestrel]

same with two of my friends

beast pc + 500mbit fibre yet discord streams are either low qual or low fps

my streams are fine on my 3rd world internet but for some reason apex crashes if i try to stream

every other game is fine tho

[velvet orchid]

u need nitro to stream on disc

[mellow kestrel]

no

[velvet orchid]

yea

yeah

?

if u want more than 30 fps and better quality on stream

u need nitro

or boosted servers

[little verge]

Why the fuck is EVERY random lifeline the first person to engage a fight in ranked?

"Let me play this character with basically zero active abilities except to revive and I'll play so I don't even get to do that."

[mellow kestrel]

this is crazy

apex is like kovaak now

im BEAMING

[velvet orchid]

because thats how people play this game apparently

no matter whats ur characters

everyone plays like octane

yolo

[little verge]

Yeah, except this is Diamond ranked.

I'd hope a Lifeline main would understand how to position their choice of Legend at the very fucking least.

It's basically the only thing you need to actively think about as a Lifeline.

If I'm ever going to do a master grind, I can't do this shit alone because clearly no one in ranked has any functioning braincells.

[velvet orchid]

what do you expect

its diamond rankied

if u can soloq to diamond

props to u

[rugged reef]

I’m gonna try I’m at plat 3 solo but I wanna make the grind to diamond

[livid cliff]

solo q to diamond isnt hard

its quite easy

[little verge]

That's just it, I just push fights in gold and plat and get diamond without a problem.

[livid cliff]

its more solo q to masters which is hard

[little verge]

But apparently everyone else gets to diamond by hiding for 20 minute games.

[livid cliff]

gold and plat u can legit just W key every fight

dia is where it gets aids

i swear mfs only play for 3rd parties

it gets unbearable

[little verge]

Say fuck ranked and queue, get given some rando low level and get immediately dunked by Juicer lol.

[rugged reef]

Damn here I am getting humbled in plat lobbies

[livid cliff]

plat is just W key every fight

as soon as u hit dia u notice the difference in games

[mellow kestrel]

ur master ur better

[viscid wraith]

voltaic unranked best rank

besides blitz

no 🧢

[worn sparrow]

Had a lifeline in arena that didn't tap rez when she had the opportunity

I play Bloodhound in ranked and I have to remind myself to get better positions at times

Because I'm too impatient to stay in the back and wait for team to catch up

[keen yoke]

Had this happen a few days ago in Diamond

[livid cliff]

LIFELIINEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

lifelines mains just hate ressing

or they end up ressing in the worst spot

[viscid wraith]

ok ngl for once the recommended youtube short was actually pretty dope https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68Wghaw4EhQ

this was big brain

[keen yoke]

4 assists 0 dmg lmao

Just sat in his drone while we fought everyone

[livid cliff]

i asked this guy how did he get top d2 by not fighting as a team

he replied to me

"its a free game"

[keen yoke]

lmao

[alpine trail]

4 assists with 0 damage

actually impressive

[keen yoke]

very

should've asked him to carry me

[velvet orchid]

u either get apes

or looters

in ur team

no middle ground

[keen yoke]

having apes is more fun than having looters

[livid cliff]

not even apes just the teammates who cant aim n die straight away

[velvet orchid]

no

its not

[keen yoke]

bc then you can actually fight people

[livid cliff]

having apes is good

ppl who are eager to fight and cant actually fight as a team,

[velvet orchid]

like game i had now

dude rushes into 3 people when i have no shields and have to reload teammate down

[livid cliff]

way better than ppl who loot all game and its zone 4 with 3 teams and u have 0 kp

[velvet orchid]

i ask him why did he rush into 3 people alone

[livid cliff]

shits boring

[velvet orchid]

he says "two cracked"

cba

impossible to do anything soloq

[livid cliff]

rn im stuck d3

its painful

[keen yoke]

just win games ez

[proven pulsar]

Wait is this another tak

@alpine trail

Lmao it is

[keen yoke]

yes lmao

I met the other tak yesterday I think

or day before that

[bright elm]

the better tak

[proven pulsar]

[bright elm]

[keen yoke]

☹️

[bright elm]

jk

[viscid wraith]

i love how

almost 12 seasons later

this and 1v1s are somehow still our only decent warmups in game https://streamable.com/9ub7e4

at least we have vt titanfall now

that helps a bit

[mellow kestrel]

@viscid wraith sending them off jumppads is nice too

to make jumppads stay after you switch legend u need to throw it high up and switch before it lands

[wintry cypress]

literally never done this xD

[velvet orchid]

isnt it better to just target the chest so you hit all shots

[alpine trail]

if you can track a head really well chest will hardly ever be a problem

[little verge]

It's such a nice tech since you can control the decoy from other angles to do mirror or anti mirror and gauged distances.

[alpine trail]

for warming up it is good

wouldn't try and track the head all the time in game

but I don't think he does anyways

[velvet orchid]

makes sense

[viscid wraith]

this yeah

smaller target

i dont really do this much anymore anyway since no one fucking strafes they just hold left stick forward

[mellow kestrel]

ash 20b

[viscid wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-good-job-nice-awesome-good-one-gif-14316023

[mellow kestrel]

69 kills 😎

[livid cliff]

nice my valk just insanely overpeeked into 3 ppl

then gets knocked

unlucky really

[wintry cypress]

skill issue ofc

[alpine trail]

have any of you guys ever been aim coached

or coached in game in general

[wintry cypress]

nope

not me

[forest nimbus]

I have coached

but not been coached

[viscid wraith]

im considering gettings some coaching from nix since he just started doing it

not sure yet tho

[alpine trail]

I am really interested to know from some people who have been

[livid cliff]

BRO

[alpine trail]

if you have been coached what is there to gain if the specific person broadcasts their knowledge to the wider public daily

[livid cliff]

these randoms are so fucking terrible

it actually isnt funny

[alpine trail]

is it worth the extra money for specificity

[viscid wraith]

from what little coaching i recieved and gave in league i feel that spurts of like a couple weeks of coaching are super good for most people

[livid cliff]

its always the d4s flexing triple dias badges

[alpine trail]

and nix does coaching? thats sick I love that guy

[livid cliff]

so cringe man

[alpine trail]

one thing I don't get is aim coaching

[mellow kestrel]

havoc + recoil smoothing op

[alpine trail]

why would you pay someone to coach your aim, when you can get someone who mains your game

and get coached all round

[viscid wraith]

yeah aim coaching is monka imo

like

theres so many resources available

and its such a smaller percentage of the equation to the level where problems with your aim training matter

[alpine trail]

yeah man

besides it's aim

[velvet orchid]

aim coaching sounds like literal scam

lmfao

its like breathing coaching

[alpine trail]

it has so many less variables than an actual game does

[viscid wraith]

aim at the bot better lul

[alpine trail]

why not get better at the game in general you know?

[mellow kestrel]

well

[alpine trail]

well

[mellow kestrel]

having someone experienced who easily sees what you do wrong and what you can improve can be nice

[alpine trail]

yeah true

[mellow kestrel]

if you are trying to just improve your aim

but like

imo not worth with the resources available publicly, as @viscid wraith said

[alpine trail]

aim is only one component of a video game

that's what I'm thinking

[mellow kestrel]

+1

i wouldn't buy game coaching either but it's def more worth

[alpine trail]

like yeah I have spent £200 on aim coaching but I still get punched off drop

gg

money well spent

[wintry scroll]

aim coaching cringiest shit ever

especially if u have to pay for it lmao

[alpine trail]

the fact that there are people that would spend that money

[bright elm]

i mean

[alpine trail]

on aim coaching

[bright elm]

hollow got aim coaching

from gored

[mellow kestrel]

depends on the amount of money

[bright elm]

look at him now

[alpine trail]

hollow was good at the game before

[viscid wraith]

like if the weak component is your aim

which for 99% of people it isnt

[mellow kestrel]

gored does good coaching from what i've heard but like idk

[viscid wraith]

that makes some sense

[bright elm]

well y'all were roasting the fuck out of aim coaching

like it's useless

[alpine trail]

I just asked if it was worth while

[bright elm]

but now you're over here saying it's good if ur alread knowledgeable

[mellow kestrel]

if you're really good at the game but lack aim then aim coaching is 100% worth

lets just say that

:)

[alpine trail]

and was given a general consensus

[bright elm]

well hollow is a good example

hollow is pretty insane

but not for the general audience

bro there's free coaching called #vodreviews

tbh i don't see the point in bashing people to pay for aim coaching especially if they're paying someone who's credible like gored

[alpine trail]

I thought hollow was big on his aim stuff and aim training already

[bright elm]

it's their money

if they have the money to spare then it's wtv

[alpine trail]

I never would expect him to pay for coaching himself but obviously I don't know the guy personally

he just seems extremely well educated on the topic and capable of doing everything off his own accord

but you can't go wrong with help

[mellow kestrel]

he's def capable i think too, but idk if he really has the time

[alpine trail]

yeah true maybe it is easier to have someone kind of deal with that stuff for him on the side

[mellow kestrel]

probably did it to just have someone who already knows everything to just guide him real quick

he seems pretty busy so fair ig

[alpine trail]

whatever keeps you happy and it is his job tbh

I was asking bc I pay my powerlifting coach

and I saw that aim coaching is becoming a thing so I was comparing the benefits

I was just thinking to myself what would make someone want aim coaching

paid

[velvet orchid]

what advice will they give you

basically learn how to aim

nothing u can't learn urself

[mellow kestrel]

you could compare it to getting coached in e.g basketball vs. coached in physical exercises for basketball or any other sport

[alpine trail]

if I compare it to my powerlifting then I guess it would be nice to have it tailored to your specific needs

[velvet orchid]

no that's totally different

lol

[mellow kestrel]

how?

[velvet orchid]

?

[alpine trail]

but then with aiming all that takes is one quick message here and a vod review like kristian said

and you have all the feedback you need

[mellow kestrel]

if you compare competitive gaming to a sport

[velvet orchid]

how can you compare coaching in sport to aim coaching

[mellow kestrel]

then strength training and aim training is roughly the same

[velvet orchid]

the only way to improve your aim is by training

[bright elm]

but like I said

[velvet orchid]

there's no life hacks

or anything

[bright elm]

the one thing I will say tho is

[velvet orchid]

it's literally waste of money

[alpine trail]

btw I wasn't comparing them as in which is better I was just wondering what would draw someone to one instead of the other

[bright elm]

you will have complete guidance over your entire journey when you hire someone like gored

for aim coaching

[velvet orchid]

entire journey

lol

[bright elm]

well

help 24/7

[velvet orchid]

idk some people are too crazy about this aim proving

reality is some of u spend thousands of bucks and still get clapped by 50 yo who just came from work on controller

[bright elm]

it's nothing worth bashing people about, but imo, I'd only see it useful for upcoming pros or pros in general

[velvet orchid]

literally waste of money

[mellow kestrel]

i wouldn't personally get aim coaching, but if you're playing competitively and lack aim i can def see why you would

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[bright elm]

exactly my thoughts

[velvet orchid]

there's nothing special they will tell you

[alpine trail]

like I have been pretty successful with my powerlifting since getting my coach, made the british and going for EPF open, but if I were to get aim coached personally I don't think I'd have the same success

but that's on me haha

[velvet orchid]

it's like paying someone to get your groceries

[mellow kestrel]

especially if you're actively playing tournaments, scrims, etc and don't have much spare time to research everything

[velvet orchid]

you can get them yourself

[mellow kestrel]

no shit

[velvet orchid]

you're just paying for the convenience

[mellow kestrel]

yes

[bright elm]

you can say the same for sports

[mellow kestrel]

^

[bright elm]

just learn it yourself

[velvet orchid]

and the convenience in this case is 200 bucks

[mellow kestrel]

EXACTLY

[velvet orchid]

?

exactly?

[bright elm]

like ur argument is just weak because it can be said for sport coaches

[mellow kestrel]

well yeah some aim coaches are asking for DUMB amounts of money

[alpine trail]

I think you know because it is a really new thing people have all these different opinions I just wanted to hear them

[velvet orchid]

ok if u spend 200 dollars to get aim coaching

[bright elm]

why pay for a basketball coach when you can practice on your aim

[velvet orchid]

you should think about yourself

[bright elm]

no one is charging 200

[velvet orchid]

for a while

[bright elm]

for aim coaching

[velvet orchid]

basketball is different

[bright elm]

the most expensive i've seen is gored charging 40 or 60

[velvet orchid]

you can't compare it to aim lol

[mellow kestrel]

the concept still applies

[bright elm]

but that's fair because of her experience

[mellow kestrel]

yes you can

lol

[velvet orchid]

it doesn't

[alpine trail]

I don't know gored well but do you know off the top of your head the experience?

[mellow kestrel]

ok

[velvet orchid]

basketball has many branches skill wise

aiming you literally move your hand

that's it

[alpine trail]

just been around the aim community for a long time in general or is there a lot more

[spring patrol]

https://twitter.com/Caprah_/status/1487957325528846337

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[velvet orchid]

you get better by aim training more

[spring patrol]

tried someting new

[velvet orchid]

there's no life hacks

[bright elm]

a lot of experience in aim training

so she's very good

[mellow kestrel]

you're misunderstanding

[bright elm]

good reputation

in the community

so she's been around for a long time

[alpine trail]

okay thank you

[bright elm]

she actually participated in the aim labs tournamnet

like a couple months back

she did pretty well in it

I think she made it to semi finals?

[velvet orchid]

what am I misunderstanding

[mellow kestrel]

there is different branches in basketball yes, but you do strength and conditioning exercises so your body can keep up with the level of play

in games you need aim that matches the level of play

[alpine trail]

I'm a really open minded person and I have been really into my aim training shit recently so when I saw it was becoming a thing I partly considered like a one month experiment to see if it was worth my own time and if anything good could come of it

[mellow kestrel]

do you see what i'm getting at?

[velvet orchid]

no

i don't

[mellow kestrel]

alright whatever then

[velvet orchid]

?

[mellow kestrel]

not gonna bother lol

[velvet orchid]

look

[livid cliff]

how do u not understand

[stray valley]

If you only train one skill, the other ones will bottleneck you

TLDR

[velvet orchid]

if you buy the guide

[livid cliff]

hes simplified it so much

[velvet orchid]

literally

the only thing that happens

generalized

is

[mellow kestrel]

i played ball for years and i've aimed for years

i'm not talking out of my ass either lol

[velvet orchid]

you will aim train more

you can do that for free

?

[mellow kestrel]

yes

you can teach yourself basketball and strength exercises for free

yet people get coached for that

and everytihng else

[velvet orchid]

because it's different?

[coarse lily]

Some really dumb takes in here rn

[mellow kestrel]

🤦‍♂️

[alpine trail]

yeah aim training more would certainly lead to improvement in one way or another so basically you're saying you would pay someone to tell you what you already know?

[coarse lily]

[alpine trail]

what is your take I want to know haha

just out of interest everyone is sharing

[coarse lily]

I’m referring to alex

[stray valley]

Just aim 🧠

[velvet orchid]

cba people trying to justify spending 50+ dollars on getting told to practice more

[alpine trail]

maybe it isn't to do with practice more

[bright elm]

you're probably unaware of what gored offers in terms of coaching

[velvet orchid]

like a cult

[bright elm]

because it's not just paying her $60

for her to give you

general tips

[livid cliff]

just get good then

[alpine trail]

if someone told you that you are practicing ineffectively would you believe them @velvet orchid

[velvet orchid]

yes?

[alpine trail]

is that something you can just notice yourself

okay fair enough

[velvet orchid]

do i have to spend 60 bucks for that

no?

u can literally ask here

[coarse lily]

So who’s doing it for free?

[velvet orchid]

in advice

[kind prawn]

lmao

[velvet orchid]

talk to ppl

[livid cliff]

alex

[alpine trail]

well if you can do all of it yourself of course it isn't worth the money yeah you're correct

[velvet orchid]

?

[livid cliff]

is ur brain working

[bright elm]

[alpine trail]

but you can always learn i suppose

[livid cliff]

im really baffled by what ur saying

[bright elm]

THEY REMOVED THE I SLEEP EMOJI

NO WAY

[velvet orchid]

baffled by what

[livid cliff]

by what ur saying

can u read

[velvet orchid]

that I'm not trying to justify 60$ to get told to practice more?

lol

[mellow kestrel]

he’s trolling dw

[velvet orchid]

yeah

[kind prawn]

how about instead of paying an aim coach you plug your brain in and figure it out yourself 🥶

[velvet orchid]

absolutely trolling

[livid cliff]

either trolling or just braindead

idk

[mellow kestrel]

i wish you were for your own sake tbh

[bright elm]

guys coaches are useless when you can do everything yourself

same with tutors

!!!!!

[velvet orchid]

LOL

[coarse lily]

My guy acting as if paying $60 to save some time means you got some sort of mental issue

[bright elm]

fuck school guys!!!!!!

why go to school when we can teach ourselves with google

[livid cliff]

idk how someone can seem so slow

[bright elm]

!!!

[coarse lily]

I would definitely pay it if I was in a position where I could afford it regularly lmao

[velvet orchid]

comparing aim training to studying in school

ah yes

[bright elm]

that's what im saying

[livid cliff]

LMAO

[velvet orchid]

some of you are absolutely crazy

[livid cliff]

oh alex

[velvet orchid]

touch grass

[livid cliff]

u really are just dumb

LMAO

[coarse lily]

Also alex, do you think the same about therapists, etc?

[velvet orchid]

maybe if you spend 2000$ more you'll get better

[bright elm]

i know you ain't telling us to touch grass when you been sitting here all day 😭

[livid cliff]

alex aint u been on discord all day

[velvet orchid]

talking to u for one hour while playing

all day

[livid cliff]

bout go touch some grass

[velvet orchid]

ah yes

[livid cliff]

LMAO

[alpine trail]

okay I can agree that comparing aim coaches to therapists is a bit far fetched 🤣

[velvet orchid]

all day

[alpine trail]

but I get the point you're making @coarse lily

[velvet orchid]

i literally said u can't compare aim training to basketball or anything

[livid cliff]

bro spends all his time arguing on discord

[velvet orchid]

stop putting words in my mouth

you're arguing with me

if you forgot

again

[bright elm]

fr

[livid cliff]

fr

[velvet orchid]

i said you can't compare aim training to other stuff

[coarse lily]

Lmao, I was exaggerating but the joke still works imo

[bright elm]

yes you can

[velvet orchid]

yet you keep talking about other stuff

?

[bright elm]

it's legit a skill

same with playing an instrument

[velvet orchid]

what's the point

[bright elm]

playing a sport

[velvet orchid]

there's techniques?

skills to learn?

yes?

[coarse lily]

Why pay someone to teach you, just play more

[kind prawn]

learning to aim requires way less specific skills than stuff that tutors would help with tho. someone with no knowledge would be able to learn aim a lot easier than they would be able to teach themselves something like the sat

@bright elm

[velvet orchid]

^

[bright elm]

yeah i was meming

lol

[kind prawn]

ah

i see

[velvet orchid]

there's no reason to justify spending money to get told to practice more

[kind prawn]

??/

[velvet orchid]

if you think so you're literally crazy

[kind prawn]

alex

[velvet orchid]

i don't know what to tell you

[kind prawn]

alex how

how

did you think that

and type it out

man

[mellow kestrel]

@kind prawn don't bother

[kind prawn]

obviously

thats not what the coach will do

[livid cliff]

bros mentally challenged

[bright elm]

[alpine trail]

so in conclusion aim coaching isn't too bad if you have the time and money

[livid cliff]

i often question how people can be so dumb

[bright elm]

yes

[alpine trail]

thank you for contributing everyone

[bright elm]

that's what i said at first

[alpine trail]

it was a fun experience lmao

[mellow kestrel]

TLDR if you have the money to spare and you want to try aim coaching i'd say go for it

[alpine trail]

I asked what people think of aim coaching and we rabbit holed into 15 ppl typing at once

comedians

[mellow kestrel]

i personally haven't looked into it much and probably wont, im very insistent on learning stuff like this on my own

[alpine trail]

ah well

[velvet orchid]

welcome to cult of aim training for 15 years and realizing you're still not good

[mellow kestrel]

but you don't have anything to lose really

[velvet orchid]

eats your brain away

after while

💀

[livid cliff]

yet ur still here arguing

[alpine trail]

do you aim train often alex

[velvet orchid]

no

[mellow kestrel]

braindead take

[velvet orchid]

i just play the game

[mellow kestrel]

lots of ppl here who aren't even close to being aim trainer mains

[alpine trail]

okay I was wondering for a sec why you'd be in a discord like this

[mellow kestrel]

and just aim train to get an edge ingame

[alpine trail]

but if its for apex then fair enough

[mellow kestrel]

myself included ig

[velvet orchid]

im not saying it's bad

[alpine trail]

just you don't take an interest

[mellow kestrel]

.

[velvet orchid]

I'm saying finding reasons why you suck and trying to solve them outside of aim training

[kind prawn]

no

still bad

its literallyt

aim

[velvet orchid]

is waste of time

[kind prawn]

aim is the least technical skill

[alpine trail]

in apex or general

[kind prawn]

so many skills would highly benefit from a coach

[velvet orchid]

if u want to buy coach for game sense

sure

[kind prawn]

but aim isnt really one of them

[velvet orchid]

makes sense

[kind prawn]

alex

[alpine trail]

yeah that's what I said originally why would you rather not pay someone to coach you in game

[velvet orchid]

but aiming

[alpine trail]

then you will improve in all areas

[velvet orchid]

nah man

[mellow kestrel]

and if your gamesense/strats are decent but aim still lacks, and you don't feel like researching everything and learning how to aim train properly yourself?

[viscid wraith]

@spring patrol have you thought about exporting your video in a higher resolution so you force youtube into using the 4k encoder? video slaps but would be crisp af if it was in 4k

[velvet orchid]

look

[mellow kestrel]

keep in mind this stuff is very subjective, it's really all up to the individual to decide if it's worth or not

[velvet orchid]

if you want to justify spending money for that

ok

do it

i can't stop you

but if you literally can't figure out if you're practicing wrong

idk what to tell you

if you play game

like apex

and u see u can't track

[inner lake]

maybe tell them to get aim coaching idk

[velvet orchid]

u practice tracking

but ur thought would be

u can't track

so u buy coach for 60$

[coarse lily]

No one’s looking for justification lmao, it’s a service and for some people it’s relatively cheap and worth it

[velvet orchid]

to tell you to practice tracking

[kind prawn]

i dont see how aim coaching is worth it

[coarse lily]

Ah yes, just “practice tracking”

[mellow kestrel]

💀

[coarse lily]

That’s how you end up seeing ascended tracking v3 mains

[mellow kestrel]

^

[velvet orchid]

ok let's say I'm new here and to apex

[mellow kestrel]

literally me when playing kovaaks with no knowledge of how to aim train properly

[velvet orchid]

i come in this channel

i know i suck at tracking

i type "hello guys i suck at tracking what scenarios do u recommend in kovaaks"

[mellow kestrel]

it's not that simple

[alpine trail]

People pay coaches for their knowledge and critical thinking skills

[mellow kestrel]

what is ur tracking issue

[velvet orchid]

literally 10 if not more

[mellow kestrel]

smoothness?

reactivity?

[alpine trail]

Just a shortcut

[velvet orchid]

of u will type here

[alpine trail]

For relatively cheap

[velvet orchid]

he

u ask me

what's the problem

[mellow kestrel]

just going into some random tracking scen to "practice tracking" won't do shit

[velvet orchid]

we find out together

[alpine trail]

wait nix has a group coaching thing for like £3?

that's so cool man

[viscid wraith]

ye i need to look at it

if i can fit the timezone or whatever

[kind prawn]

but this isnt as helpful for aim training because its one of the least technical skills. you can literally just aim and go super far

that doesnt apply for so many other skills

[alpine trail]

now that isn't overpriced or anything tbh he is doing it his own way and I respect that

[mellow kestrel]

when buying aim coaching you're paying someone to dedicate their time to look at your aim and figuring out what exactly you should prioritize improving for you

that's really all it is

[kind prawn]

yeah

[velvet orchid]

if you ask me to describe the problem

[kind prawn]

paying for that tho

[mellow kestrel]

if whatever price they're asking isn't worth then don't buy it

[kind prawn]

seems

questionable

[velvet orchid]

i can provide you with answer

and u help me more

it's not like I'm wasting time either

[alpine trail]

Bro any coaching is questionabke

[kind prawn]

?

no

[velvet orchid]

because u have to go through the same conversation with the coach

[mellow kestrel]

if you feel like you could teach yourself it and not mind spending the time doing so

then do it

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[velvet orchid]

no

listen to me

coming here and asking people

is the same as buying a person for 60$

and asking them

[alpine trail]

Someone who pays a coach is willing to give up some pocket cash in exchange to speed up the process

[velvet orchid]

isn't that right

[alpine trail]

No it isnt

Randoms here dont have the same insight

As someone who trains aim for a living

[mellow kestrel]

well from what i understand, you get dedicated x hours voice call sessions etc with vod reviews etc

[alpine trail]

Huh?

[velvet orchid]

yes

[mellow kestrel]

where you pay the person to spend hours reviewing your vods and helping you

[velvet orchid]

but there's people here who will do it for free

[mellow kestrel]

you're paying for hours of someones time, as with anything

[kind prawn]

yes but the effectiveness can be very dependent on the skill they want to be coached in. being coached in a skill like the sat is way more effective than being coached in aiming

[mellow kestrel]

yes but quality may not be as good or as dedicated

obviously

[alpine trail]

Sure

[velvet orchid]

well

[mellow kestrel]

like sure you'll get some tips here and there

you still won't have someone fully coach you through every aspect of aim

[alpine trail]

But are u guys debating effectiveness or the lack of total value in aim coach

Bc for some people dropping 20 bucks

To speed things up

[bright elm]

value

[alpine trail]

And shortcut

[velvet orchid]

effectiveness reflects in value

[alpine trail]

Itsnt a big deal

[velvet orchid]

you're not speeding anything up

[alpine trail]

Well isnt time a resource too

You can achieve the same results

But undeniably coaching will speed it up

[kind prawn]

im saying coaching is good but getting aim coaching is way less helpful than being coached in other things

[velvet orchid]

how

[alpine trail]

There is value in saving time

[velvet orchid]

you're not saving time

[alpine trail]

How are u not

[velvet orchid]

ok

[mellow kestrel]

...

[velvet orchid]

let's say u want coaching, u pay 60$ and have to wait until the person comes online, then u have to talk about ur problems the same way you would talk with some person from here

theres no difference except paying 60$

[viscid wraith]

tbh both sides are technically correct, it just ENTIRELY depends on player goals and what they feel they need to address or work on

[alpine trail]

The value of the insight of a coach

[kind prawn]

alex

man

[alpine trail]

Versus some random

Is just not close

Imo

[velvet orchid]

and you don't need the best aimer in the world

to tell you what's wrong

[alpine trail]

But to tell u how to fix itv

[coarse lily]

Alex, no one’s going to offer a service they can charge money for for free

[mellow kestrel]

if you're not on a high level yourself, no you don't

[velvet orchid]

are you sure about that

[kind prawn]

alex just keeps typing bangers

definitely adding them to the folder

[mellow kestrel]

feel free to give hollow tips on what he's doing wrong when aiming

if you feel qualified?

[velvet orchid]

why would I give hollow tips

[mellow kestrel]

exactly

[velvet orchid]

????

what do you mean exactly

I'm unranked

I'm pretty sure

if I'm having an issue

and i ask

[mellow kestrel]

if you're high level and you want to get further some random won't be qualified to help you

more than likely

[velvet orchid]

and i see someone with a higher rank give me advice

there's a 90% chance they can set me straight

[mellow kestrel]

in that case getting a top tier aimer to coach you is valid

yes

because you're not at that level

[velvet orchid]

but you keep changing the conditions

[mellow kestrel]

...how?

[alpine trail]

Bc its condition dependany

In certain scenarios

Getting coaching

[velvet orchid]

if you're messi obviously you won't get trained by local soccer coach

[alpine trail]

Is justified

[velvet orchid]

lol

[mellow kestrel]

correct

[alpine trail]

U said soccer

[mellow kestrel]

in that case it is justifiable to get a coach qualified to help you

[alpine trail]

Instead of football

[mellow kestrel]

you see?

[alpine trail]

Thats enough for me

[velvet orchid]

yeah but that applies for 0.1% for people?

lol

[mellow kestrel]

okay and?

[velvet orchid]

you're justifying 60$ coaching for people who are literally dogshit

[mellow kestrel]

where is this 60$ from

[velvet orchid]

with an idea

of it being worth it for someone of hollows caliber

[mellow kestrel]

if a price is worth or not is completely subjective

60$ might be a lot or absolutely nothing

depends on you

[wintry scroll]

Depends on what the coach offers for that amount of money

[mellow kestrel]

like if 60 is too expensive (which i agree, i would never pay that) then either get a cheaper one or just dont?

[alpine trail]

I probably need a aim coach I cannot hit a thing

[velvet orchid]

the coach offers aim training

[wintry scroll]

Like maybe u get daily/weekly coach sessions

[mellow kestrel]

this is true

[velvet orchid]

so problem solving and plan making

u can literally get an advice from here for free and faster

[mellow kestrel]

yes, but does the coach also give you hours of their own time

lol

[velvet orchid]

this is like

wanting to learn how to paint

[wintry scroll]

But not everyone is dedicated to helping u with every problem

[velvet orchid]

and u immediately go to Picasso

[mellow kestrel]

like you're just paying someone to spend their time helping you

that is literally it

[velvet orchid]

yeah

not everyone is

[mellow kestrel]

if that is worth or not is up to you

end of discussion i cba anymore lmfao

[velvet orchid]

but there's people in hee literally camping advice channels

to give advice

i dmd some high ranked guy asking for something and he answered

[alpine trail]

is supergliding still in apex?

[velvet orchid]

(didn't charge me 60$ too)

yes

you can still superglide

[alpine trail]

ok

[viscid wraith]

fuck

i keep forgetting

this isnt a hitbox https://streamable.com/y1hxir

[summer hatch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jkin5ZkaCg

[spring patrol]

1440p?

@viscid wraith i saw someone comment about it on my channel but i never knew how

[viscid wraith]

you just export at a much higher resolution, as youtube has a set of encoders that it normally assigns to people based on their "level" of subs and such

by using a much higher res for some reason youtube goes with one of the creator encoders

which unlocks 4k options on the video

[bright elm]

yeah

you usually export in 1440p

so that youtube uses one of their better encoders

and it'll increase the quality of the vieo

video

by a lot

[viscid wraith]

for example when i do videos i export at 3840x2160

[spring patrol]

okay i'll try that

[bright elm]

i fucked this up man

[keen yoke]

lmao

[viscid wraith]

tuktuktuktuktuktuktuktuktuktuktuktuktuktuktuk ding

lmg funni

[viscid wraith]

20cm wing kinda fun https://streamable.com/q04ere

need to get an actually good clip tho so far no ones strafing or moving and fights have been lame lol

[viscid wraith]

euph with another banger https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzNlpI5RP_g

[uneven badger]

is anyone else having a crazy amount of micro stuttering recently? its driving me crazy

[viscid wraith]

@spring patrol that 4k quality looking saucy 👍

[alpine trail]

what volt is this?

Is it a collection event?

[viscid wraith]

current event

[alpine trail]

Ok thanks

is it craftable or is it apex coins

[viscid wraith]

all skins in this event are available from here on via crafting, but can also be purchased via coins in the current event shop\

its a limited time event with limited time skins that arent actually limited time cause respawn doesnt have any originality lmfao

[frail smelt]

Is there any good channels or videos about how to get better at 1 v. 2/3's that's actually practical and useful?

[alpine trail]

So its like the halloween event or whatever it was?

with the banner frames and epic wraith

so the skins can be bought even after the event is over?

[ember wagon]

wow just figured out my source of tremors is thinking of my aim

[bright elm]

crazy

[bright elm]

you can check out hollow_o's channel

he has a few educational commentary

for his solo trio games

[viscid wraith]

yes

[frigid bramble]

love love ranked arenas

[frail smelt]

Hollow is an obvious one but I'm more talking about breaking down clips

[frail smelt]

I played it at the beginning of season 11 and I've never been more tilted in my life over a game

[bright elm]

oh well

tbh i don't know anyone else

[bright elm]

avoid arenas 💀

[hoary hamlet]

go sleep its your bed time

[bright elm]

me waiting for video to process

i was studying for a lil bit

[hoary hamlet]

ooo

[hoary hamlet]

hope it went well

my future doc

🤝

[bright elm]

[hoary hamlet]

[frigid bramble]

cant i was pred last split n i want it again but it is the WORSTTTTTT shit ive ever played in my life

im sooooooooo fuckin tilted right now]

SO tilted...

especially doing this shit solo smfh

[keen yoke]

same lmao

Got D1 last season

And I'm stuck in D2 this season

Such a terrible experience

Had 2 lvl 45s on my team the other day against a 3 stack

[bright elm]

https://youtu.be/vFLjb4atro0#

[frigid bramble]

ahhaha yeah im solo d4 almost d3 rn. actualyl fkn sucks wit lvl 45 teammates

[remote wyvern]

soloing diamonds just a stats game

rp comes and goes

just gotta keep at it

for example I took a 33 loss last game and this game Im playing solo because the game decided to not give me teammates

stats

[keen yoke]

i'm on my alt account

[rugged reef]

someone sign this man 🥶

[keen yoke]

for practicing mnk since i'm a controller player

20 dmg in 4 rounds 😭

[rugged reef]

1 p2020 headshot

[little verge]

Man could have just ran up and sucker punched a dude for more damage

[keen yoke]

lmao

apparently I have to carry no matter what input i play, sadge

[viscid wraith]

is how it goes in every competitive game

unfortunately

[keen yoke]

back to controller

[viscid wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/overwatch-dramatic-hammond-wrecking-ball-hamster-gif-19521766

[hoary hamlet]

[viscid wraith]

oh shittttt

i been slacking

been a while

https://tenor.com/view/apex-legends-pathfinder-apex-mirage-finisher-gif-21867795

[hoary hamlet]

nah

NAH MAN

[deep linden]

yo @stray valley is this legit? https://github.com/Natram1zh/Apex-Autoexec-And-Tweaks-/blob/main/autoexec.cfg

[keen yoke]

Pretty sure most of those commands don't even work and are unnecessary

[deep linden]

apparently it's updated to show which ones work, which ones are placebo and which ones don't

so idk

I might test it out

[hoary hamlet]

lmk if it works

[viscid wraith]

holy shit 1.5 feels so slow now lmaoooo

[viscid wraith]

i havent even looked at it yet bro and im 90% sure my Frankenstein file has more commands than it lol

did a lot of searching around before i meshed these two together, i just commented out the duplicate commands cause lazy lol

[deep linden]

bruh

I was about to freak out when I saw the duplicated commands

my fucking programmer brain couldn't handle that shit

[viscid wraith]

lmao

[deep linden]

I was legit about to throw my keyboard out

I'm gonna have two autoexecs now

actually, three

[alpine trail]

DIS MAN CRASY!!! 🌶️

[foggy jasper]

Found a movement demon in 1v1, GOOD AIM TRAINING LOL
https://streamable.com/szmokb
https://streamable.com/lei9vz
https://streamable.com/zjm3q4

this is legit the most cracked movement player ive played against

[little verge]

Good Octanes are absolutely stupid to fight.

[viscid wraith]

im gonna be completely honest, by todays movement standards thats mediocre

when i think of insane octane movement i think of stormen and lascur

thats like

your average wannabe bouncing around in faide building

[deep linden]

except it's "amazing" and "game breaking" according to casuals and the devs :)

[viscid wraith]

also spamming fatigued bhops

is achieving little to nothing for him there lmao

other than just being "different"

our boi @burnt stone has better movement than that cause he uses it more practically and hits his shots

[burnt stone]

???

[little verge]

And then there's my boomer movement

[burnt stone]

wrong asher

[foggy jasper]

idk what ur smoking but i want some of that LOL

[burnt stone]

although it looks cool i'm not sure how he's supposed to aim while bhopping like that

the jumps are gonna scuff hipfire and ads

[foggy jasper]

hes doing all that on a controller too

he was pretty accurate with his shots too

[burnt stone]

3rd clip he confused himself and then you tried doing movement instead of just shooting him and confused yourself

[foggy jasper]

this was just a couple highlight clips of what happened

[burnt stone]

sometimes people do too much movement and while it looks flashy and cool it isn't practical and doesn't give an advantage all the time

[foggy jasper]

i think if u 1v1 this guy