everyone here na
#apex
little verge
Because it's NA hours. Only those with jobs and existential dread up at this time.
hoary hamlet
little verge
Thankfully I have both 
alpine trail
lusty vault
Unlucky
alpine trail
you literally have to try to not have a 4k badge at that point
lusty vault
Some people don’t play for 4ks
hoary hamlet
you literally have to try to not have a 4k badge at that point
i saw someone with 16k kills with a 3k
4ks are hard to come by
little verge
Both of my closest games to 4Ks were where I didn't pay any mind to kills or damage.
jagged dawn
I guess im just shit now, i think i played 4 games or something in season 8 with a 5k damage game. Now i have trouble getting 3k 😄
deep linden
i saw someone with 16k kills with a 3k
I'm at 11k kills without a 20 kill game
hoary hamlet
I'm at 11k kills without a 20 kill game
damm
deep linden
probably never will get it because ranked >>>>>> pub numbers
deep linden
No.
deep linden
What's the point of me coming back when literally no one there would actually play ranked with me
I'm only here for the resources and #909909159103844362
hoary hamlet
fairs
deep linden
I don't wanna waste my time chasing irrelevant numbers now when I can keep improving against actual people
hoary hamlet
I don't wanna waste my time chasing irrelevant numbers now when I can keep impro...
you will i hope you reach where you want too ❤️
hoary hamlet
Jo
timmy you're a different breed
i've got more to improve on so i think i just find it hard
deep linden
4ks are pretty easy if you just thirst your downs
hoary hamlet
when i do have a chance i make a mistake in terms of game sense or positioning
hoary hamlet
4ks are pretty easy if you just thirst your downs
i try to but most of my engagements dont let me
spring patrol
if u dont thirst downs when going for a 4k it’ll be harder
hoary hamlet
hmm i'll give it a go
spring patrol
also flatline 2x4 is the easiest thing for 20b4k
deep linden
sometimes you could even stall fights if you're that kind of guy
or if you have the last few people on
deep linden
i only stall at top 3
hoary hamlet
okay
deep linden
sometimes I even try to throw them a batt kekw
you can ask @trail grail
I literally threw the last two enemies a batt just for that 4k
actually 2 stacks
hoary hamlet
ik you mentioned it once
mighty brook
qheu carry me too
deep linden
I wouldn't
mighty brook
pretty please
hoary hamlet
welp
mighty brook
qheu we’ll just drop you meds
viscid wraith
I'll be brains qheu and euph you kill everything ggez
magic juniper
I don't have any mechanics besides slide jump and wall jump 
mighty brook
I'll be brains qheu and euph you kill everything ggez
qheu kill everything and I hold meds*
mighty brook
I need 24 more points
pure ice
Easy
mighty brook
and I will be plat for the first time ever
viscid wraith
That's literally one game
pure ice
1 game
viscid wraith
You can literally land by yourself edge of zone and rat for 20 points in gold lmao
I threw elo with wally and Grinder last night sadge
Grinder was getting in his head and Wallys internet was per usual lol
Managed to still go pos cause Tokyo randoms:ThumbsUp:
Had a 20 bomb path and a decent octane and we w keyed for like 7kp
magic juniper
Dang y'all are just nuts or Tokyo server kinda free
viscid wraith
Tokyo is confirmed afk diamond Ong scientifically tested sample size of 1
pure ice
The players just braindead?
viscid wraith
Opposite
Teammate quality is high
If youre good, even if you don't communicate a lot of them can play with you decently
pure ice
Oh cool
magic juniper
When I get Japanese players in NA that aren't rats they tend to be good
alpine trail
impossible
viscid wraith
Like obv u still get idiots
But the chances seem better to get intelligent life forms
Also no career plat ttv screaming that you're trash cause he got knocked first and you aren't prioritizing reviving him
spring patrol
When I get Japanese players in NA that aren't rats they tend to be good
There are some nutty players
sexyboy69 and sexygirl69 think are their names
mighty brook
👀
viscid wraith
Honestly even if they weren't overall better players than NA I'd still play yo cause everyone plays their own game and doesn't bitch beyond giving basic call outs/pings
It's fun playing with a culture that actually vaguely respects being a decent human being lol
NA 
magic juniper
I blame the sbmm
It's a lose lose though
A while back I looked up some sbmm posts
Found some from two years ago or so
Basically the new players were complaining and saying there needs to be sbmm for pubs because they're getting sweated
otherwise they would quit
mighty brook
apex just doesn’t do most things correctly
the randomness in no sbmm is what makes it fair
But nobody seems to grasp that concept
magic juniper
I think sbmm is necessary but it's cringe when experienced players stack
magic juniper
Like there should be an honor system
If you can get Diamond+ in rank, maybe you shouldn't duo or trio queue with similar players
in pubs
mighty brook
that doesn’t sound good
considering most of the player base is diamond
that would kill the game
In an instant
magic juniper
I find that extremely hard to believe
little verge
It's sad because even EA's paper on matchmaking algorithms knew that random matchmaking had better retention than SBMM, but EOMM is king because it plays on human psychology.
magic juniper
If we're talking core playerbase, yeah the higher rank players will stick through thick and thin
but most players are like legit Bronze-Gold
Pretty sure it's the same in other games too
mighty brook
you’re asking people to not play with their friends and to force them into ranked which is a stressful environment for them considering the fact they would rather play pubs
magic juniper
@alpine trail that's why it's a lose lose. You're hanging out but solo "ok" players are playing ranked without ranked teammates
mighty brook
why would you force most of the player base to not be able to play a stress free game mode with friends because they worked hard for a rank
that just sounds ridiculous no matter how you word it
magic juniper
That's a bad strawman first Apex is big stress
Second no one is forcing anyone to do anything
mighty brook
huh
you’re forcing them to not be able to play pubs with friends to chill out
did I miss something
little verge
Yeah, I'd honestly rather play against three preds just playing pubs for fun and W keyihg than three diamonds sweating it out like it's ALGS. Rank isn't the issue, it's people taking pubs too seriously.
magic juniper
Yes, it's an unspoken thing. No one said you can't do it but it's rough if you're actively improving at the game and the game hands you level >200 teammates with Pred 3 stacks
@little verge that's another issue too
ALGS gamers in pubs
No one pushes
mighty brook
you’re trying to come up with a solution that turns the games reasoning upside down and a 180 on top of that
think of what apex is
how is it supposed to be played
how is it actually played
how do the players handle situations
viscid wraith
What needs to happen is what most older fps titles did - protected matchmaking to like level 20, let you get a feel for the game if you're truly new. Have a Smurf system like league, where if it's obviously someone trying to shit on newbies they get put back into normal lobbies. Beyond that, random matchmake. Leave sbmm FOR FUCKING RANKED LOL
magic juniper
I don't think we can have a solution that doesn't impact engagement somehow
If it went back to true randoms a lot of newer or not good players would flat out leave
because there would be more random god squads
matching up
viscid wraith
Oh no snowflakes for their feelings hurt cause someone's better than them at a video game daddy eomm save me
magic juniper
I'm just venting
I'm happy Apex is growing and popular because of sbmm
Pubs still cringe though 
viscid wraith
We feel it dude, this game is 90% a joke and somehow better than almost everything out rn
iron dragon
man what the fuck
someone just yoinked a gun i landed on from a mile away
they werent even in the same room as i was yet they got the gun 
little verge
We feel it dude, this game is 90% a joke and somehow better than almost everythi...
Isn't that the worst? Like I hate the state Apex is in, but it's still somehow better than most shooters these days. Then again when your competitors are Warzone/Vanguard/BF2042 is it much wonder?
mighty brook
Super people was hella fun to play last night
I was on that shit for like 4-5 hours
viscid wraith
Super people is literally just pubg with abilities right? Saw vorez play it on stresm
magic juniper
@little verge free market
iron dragon
Super people is literally just pubg with abilities right? Saw vorez play it on s...
looks like it
little verge
When Radical Heights releases, we'll have a new king.
iron dragon
dude if quake was alive i'd just play that
magic juniper
Now that's a real gamer7 game
iron dragon
rn it's either i get a friend to play one match before they uninstall or i get my ass kicked 0-50 by people who've been playing all this time
little verge
It's OK, eventually the community will finish making Unreal Tournament for Epic
magic juniper
Yeah Quake is definitely its own thing
viscid wraith
Respawn game mode Apex
mighty brook
It looks exactly like pubg
pretty much
more polished new gen pubg with abilities and shit
viscid wraith
I would play little else if I could just play dm apex
Ow did a couple of things right, the server system being one of them
Imagine how fucking insane pred gameay would be
If instead of rogue playing snake io during queue
He's just staying warm
magic juniper
Queue times at high ranks will always be bad though because of percentage distributions
viscid wraith
I saw so so much mechanical improvement in literally 60 hrs of.overwatch just because of uptime and dm
magic juniper
Apex lowkey shafts people way outside Pred rank too
viscid wraith
That's not my point
magic juniper
Oh I'm not arguing against
Sitting in queue is awful too
There should be something we can do
Or queue for ranked in firing range
That would be so good
iron dragon
huh seems like the 5 arena matches i played yesterday did good
i'm no longer completely lost when playing
mighty brook
W
iron dragon
actually managed to wipe two squads in streamer building before i went ape and died
viscid wraith
Honestly I think I improved more in my 60 hr ow binge then I did in 400 hrs in Apex right before it
viscid wraith
I actually could and did practice a LOT
magic juniper
Down time in game cough cough Storm point
Have any of you guys intentionally dropped into the prowler area on Stormpoint? I usually do Antenna or Cascade Falls
mighty brook
imagine if apex had even 1/5th of the amount of practice accessibility fortnite had it would be 10x better
so many different ideas for maps and shit
playground to practice loot rotations
maps for practicing armor swaps
jumps you can only make by doing super glides
magic juniper
It would
Respawn designed the game to emotionally hurt us so we stay engaged for the next hit
Really no different from gambling in a casino
You guys think a possible Titanfall 3 is dead?
alpine trail
honestly dont care much about titanfall
viscid wraith
Apex is good enough to make them money. It will likely not improve much beyond what it is now until EA finds their next title to milk
alpine trail
its so weird tho
viscid wraith
Also I don't want a Titanfall 3 anymore. Not from current respawn
alpine trail
that ea doesnt think investing more into apex wouldnt be worth it
viscid wraith
I don't want to see a fucking battle pass in Titanfall
viscid wraith
They obviously don't give a shit about it anymore, let it die now ig sad as I am about it
If it comes back it'll be a money grab attempt half assed piece of shit
frank topaz
so there is some people who played 50k+ matches in apex WTF
frank topaz
i need this kind of energy they have to play this game in my life
magic juniper
@frank topaz just keep hitting that play button
These days I try to race myself for wins per hour in pubs
wintry scroll
so there is some people who played 50k+ matches in apex WTF
5k matches a season, nah dude i would have gone insane by the 3rd season i think
frank topaz
<@!624047968416170034> just keep hitting that play button
i sleep 12-16 hours per day i hate everything and everyone i could watch apex on twitch all day but too lazy to play it myself 😂
wintry scroll
Idk
I find tracking easier in ow than apex
prob just me though
And also in ow u dont really need good aim to win matches
Just spam shoot at tanks and barriers
and u are already doing your job
magic juniper
I think gamer7 was saying it's one of the easier games for skill floor but the skill ceiling can get really high for OW
Something like infinite acceleration or something
magic juniper
@iron dragon are you NA or EU? Lethal Gaming Gear opened preorders if you're NA
iron dragon
eu
iron dragon
guess i'll get an otsu instead then
viscid wraith
Ow tracking can be harder or easier than Apex - if dueling DPS or sups most of them have way faster strafes and smaller profiles than legends
Also more tracking variety with flying cuck characters
The sheer uptime tho of just holding down lmb is great in ow
Aim map, dm, match, can even have kovaaks in the background if you want
I sometime have vaaks open with Apex to try to have better uptime but get stuttering cause Apex already caps out my cpu
lusty vault
Just spam winter express
viscid wraith
To have any fun with what people play like in that mode
viscid wraith
I only played 2 games and it was literally 2 teams of caustic fuze Watson lol
Was a fucking disaster in that train
viscid wraith
Can't miss caustic gas 
Ik what u mean tho also I wasnt surprised seeing how this games degen playerbase decided to play it
kind sandal
Winter express is absolute dogshit
lusty vault
Eu mentality
spring patrol
Eu mentality
spring patrol
When I can’t even play scrims
deep linden
Meanwhile APAC's just vibing
viscid wraith
Anyone in the VT server talking about mentality when most of us have mental blocks preventing or impeding improvement 
alpine trail
really felt the arcstar nerf justn ow
stoppped shooting before he was dead and it killed me
rain marsh
Anyone in the VT server talking about mentality when most of us have mental bloc...
ive noticed i haven't beaten my benchmark in a week. i thought i was gonna hit platinum in tracking but i seem stuck... thinking about giving up... any advice -average vt discord user
rain marsh
i ate chili last night for dinner and been noticing my aim has been off... think this is correlated?
spring patrol
Bro
pure ice
i ate chili last night for dinner and been noticing my aim has been off... think...
Yes
Definitely
alpine trail
jsut took a shit and now im fraggin way harder
any advice how to do that more often
alpine trail
viscid wraith
I can't aim if I don't have socks on but I'm p sure that's like a fundamental law of the universe or something
I wonder if putting on multiple socks will provide a reactivity boost...
Thoughts?
rain marsh
I can't aim if I don't have socks on but I'm p sure that's like a fundamental la...
Unironically I have to wear shoes or else my desk doesn't feel right with my chair
iron dragon
wearing shoes inside
viscid wraith
Maybe I'll finally be platinum complete on my voltaic aim training community skill benchmarks!!!!!!
rain marsh
wearing shoes inside <:weird:642021380107272229>
I know... I'ma build a new desk tbh.. I'm on a cosco table you play beer pong on
viscid wraith
I am short person, my chair and desk are low enough if my dog goes under it she shakes it around lmao
viscid wraith
I know... I'ma build a new desk tbh.. I'm on a cosco table you play beer pong on
SAME
Lol
rain marsh
The little part where the table folds hits my chair arm a d actually just damages my chair
viscid wraith
Oof mines not bad but I play centered on it, also took the arms off my chair for maximum scootage
And stfu ik pad is dirty I can feel the angry typing lol
spring patrol
your pad has a little dirt
iron dragon
mans shitted on his pad
mortal shell
deep linden
this is old
mortal shell
Lol when the best controller player admits AA is broken 😴
viscid wraith
Yes this is not news
mortal shell
Roller bots in the comments hard delusional about how much it helps them
deep linden
I wouldn't really say Snipedown is the best controller player
rain marsh
your pad has a little dirt
Here is the grimey version
viscid wraith
Only Reddit gremlins think it's balanced
deep linden
but he's up there
mortal shell
I wouldn't really say Snipedown is the best controller player
One of the best
rain marsh
But this is the thing under my desk
mortal shell
His opinion is very valid is what I’m getting at
deep linden
I'd say the best controller player aim-wise is Genburten
viscid wraith
But this is the thing under my desk
Oof
mortal shell
Respawn never nerfing it tho cause sweet sweet Timmy $$$
spring patrol
The best controller is Genburten no one is close at all
deep linden
Gen knows about how broken it is and just plays on roller
mortal shell
Not interest in improving at a game where the meta revolves around AA
viscid wraith
If I play centers the table isnt flat and it feels werid
Rip, mines pretty stable.prob cause it's shorter than yours
viscid wraith
Not interest in improving at a game where the meta revolves around AA
Shit mindset
mortal shell
Oh god don’t even get me started on halo
deep linden
I could still outaim roller shitters
mortal shell
Against other mouse players
mortal shell
I could still outaim roller shitters
Right but if you hopped on roller for a week it would already be better than MKB you in a 1v1
deep linden
Nah not really
mortal shell
The problem isn’t the shutters
deep linden
In the end the game still revolves around playing with your team
viscid wraith
It exists
deep linden
that's why I don't even complain in Halo crossplay
because I could literally play by my team and still beat out controller players
mortal shell
because I could literally play by my team and still beat out controller players
Then it’s not the input here…
viscid wraith
Halo also requires the motor skill of a guinea pig to use the weapons
deep linden
It's unbalanced, sure, but it's stupid to complain when you could just do something else to mitigate the damn problem
viscid wraith
Halo is 85% game sense
mortal shell
“I play well so AA isn’t broken” or “I can play with my team so AA isn’t broken” neither of those addresses the point
Point is you can do that with any input
deep linden
Like genuinely this is the fucking meta and there is no denying it and all we can do now is play around it until they fucking fix it
mortal shell
Doesn’t disprove what the pros say
deep linden
I'm not disproving what they're saying
mortal shell
Anyone can do that - if someone has as good game sense as you with AA they’ll do even better
deep linden
I understand how stupid it is
mortal shell
Yea I gotcha man
deep linden
but in reality game sense matters more when you could already decently hit your shots
mortal shell
Tbh with majority of revenue coming from console I don’t see them changing it at all in the near future
I can only hope console switches to MKB as the standard input in future generations but that’ll be when pigs fly
deep linden
You could even have shit kovaak scores but if you hit your shots when you need it and your brain's good, then you've basically won the war
mortal shell
Yea that’s every game
viscid wraith
No one in here is gonna argue positive side of aim assist in here. HOWEVER every day it's good for everyone's mental to take this as a challenge and not just be butt hurt about it in every game that isn't valorant
viscid wraith
No one agrees with aim assist
deep linden
unless you're braindead
viscid wraith
Also poopoo u sera lmao
mortal shell
The only big multiplayer FPS I enjoy nowadays is the battlefields
viscid wraith
Same diff
mortal shell
BF 1/V still very enjoyable
When I die I can just say I got out aimed or out positioned
rigid jolt
i mean if you say you arent gonna play a game because it has cross play and aim assist, bad news for you man because literally any game that wants a big audience will need crossplay and therefore aim assist
mortal shell
i mean if you say you arent gonna play a game because it has cross play and aim ...
That’s literally what I’ve been saying
deep linden
If anything, I'd be more scared of a roller with a brain but even then, you could just outpoke them
viscid wraith
Unfortunately I really prefer "relevant" games with a sci-fi twist to them, or I'd probably just join a BF4 discord lol
alpine trail
did you guys know you can disable crossplay on PC
rigid jolt
roller sucks ass, but that doesnt mean you shouldnt play a game because it has it
alpine trail
I legit only found out like 2 days ago lmfao
viscid wraith
Isn't it like
deep linden
and matchmaking takes too long
viscid wraith
Buggy asf
alpine trail
yeah its okay for solo q pubs
mortal shell
Dude they won’t even let me disable cross play for warzone
alpine trail
you can 3 stack or q with ppl as long as they use the launch command too
rigid jolt
because 99% of players are on console in wz
mortal shell
Legit not even an option I click it and it says cross play has to be enabled for this game mode lol
viscid wraith
Warzone
mortal shell
Joke game
rigid jolt
they buffed aim assist in the new map for wz 
alpine trail
solo q no fill no crossplay is way more enjoyable than normal
mortal shell
they buffed aim assist in the new map for wz <:yep:913998787909931088>
:puke:
alpine trail
i tested for a full days worth so roughly 25-30 hours of games
viscid wraith
Cod hasn't been taken seriously in a competitive mnk light since MAYBE bo3 and I'll die on that hill
deep linden
I don't have to deal with rollers that much in APAC-S
mortal shell
Man I hate the direction the industry is moving in
Good thing I main Hunt Showdown where there’s no cross play COPIUM
viscid wraith
New cod is shit, stop getting miffed and join the blissfully life of ignoring the franchises continued existance
rigid jolt
alpine trail
also what colour reticle has everyone been using now
mortal shell
Oh yea I don’t touch cod with a stick
viscid wraith
also what colour reticle has everyone been using now
Green
alpine trail
white crosshair is so nice
viscid wraith
I tried blue and pink and both had too much opacity
viscid wraith
White and green best imo
alpine trail
yeah I have to agree
viscid wraith
For some reason they're more *solid
deep linden
I use black/nonexistent crosshair
mortal shell
https://twitter.com/i/status/1468634332508172304
Dude the bots in the comments
alpine trail
only way I can get enough frames for my monitor refresh rate but most fights I have to fucking echolocate the enemy
viscid wraith
I use black/nonexistent crosshair
mortal shell
On god I want to take a giant fucking dumpster and throw all the “wHolE aRm” people and make them fucking use controller to fight each other to the death and only winner lives smh
deep linden
golden berryBOT
Atomicpulsz#5888 has been warned
deep linden
nah it looks like this
alpine trail
sick
deep linden
it's like a whiteish purple with a black outline
mortal shell
<@!183659377876533258> mhmm, 'if controller is op, use it'
I like how every time it’s brought up they complain about pc advantages because their monkey brain is too small for nuance
viscid wraith
Imagine using sights laughs in p2w irons
mortal shell
As if you can’t just plug in a roller any time to a PC
magic juniper
@deep linden Apex audio so broken
deep linden
This is what the 1x HCOG R99 looks like though
magic juniper
It sounded like he was shooting behind you near the end
mortal shell
It’s Roller vs MKB not pc vs console you monkeys
alpine trail
i just like how white is the same as the hipfire crosshair and it just makes me track people a lot easier idk
deep linden
this makes my tracking on the volt so good
rigid jolt
ye i dunno why they make it a platform debate instead of input lol
deep linden
thats getting patched
which one
alpine trail
no way they will leave that crosshair that way
deep linden
the rampage bug? the reticle?
alpine trail
reticle
alpine trail
that is insane
deep linden
no reticle, hit markers only
deep linden
if you're on any gun that has a non-standard reticle
rigid jolt
are you able to do black reticle in game?
deep linden
it'll vanish
alpine trail
the volt one is insane tho
viscid wraith
Me preparing myself to type for the 54th time my responses to the aim assist rants
https://c.tenor.com/C-SVLMUThuEAAAAM/ninjapanda-panda.gif
alpine trail
the ring is off putting on the volt
the difference is day and night
I'd be surprised if they didn't remove it or try and patch it relatively soon
deep linden
are you able to do black reticle in game?
+reticle_color "-1 -1 -1"
alpine trail
also wonder if they would ever add genuine custom reticles optic specific
alpine trail
like changing 1x hcog from a dot to a plus for example
viscid wraith
also wonder if they would ever add genuine custom reticles optic specific
Planned for season 39
alpine trail
lmfao
deep linden
if you're on non-standard reticles like these guns, it'll vanish
mortal shell
ye i dunno why they make it a platform debate instead of input lol
Roller brain
Legit average IQ has to be way lower than MKB users
viscid wraith
Smol indie xompiiny they need time while they listen attentively to the community
deep linden
if you're on a regular dot, it'll be white with a black outline
mortal shell
And that’s not even elitism speaking, just look at their sentences when they type ffs
deep linden
on a wingman-type irons, it'll basically be a black dot
for the 1-2x it'll also just be a dot at any magnification
mortal shell
Me preparing myself to type for the 54th time my responses to the aim assist ran...
I think MKB players have a right to rant tbh, doesn’t mean it’s productive cause big companies will never listen
viscid wraith
Consider the average person playing a console - 90% of them have ZERO business commenting on anything relating to statistics or skill, but yay the fucking internet exists to empower Darwin awards
mortal shell
What other FPS games do you guys play?
viscid wraith
Promod
hoary hamlet
apex
deep linden
Halo, Valorant, CSGO, Quake
hoary hamlet
viscid wraith
Apex and promod are the only things I find enjoyable rn
mortal shell
Consider the average person playing a console - 90% of them have ZERO business c...
Dude I literally don’t get how someone who has never used MKB can confidently say so much bull online about how it’s op
hoary hamlet
damm i need new games
mortal shell
Extremely delusional
viscid wraith
And until scope limits are added to normal matches promod is irritating
mortal shell
Another favorite is “it only slows down your aim!!!”
They’re so clueless about their own mechanic it’s painful
ember meadow
on a wingman-type irons, it'll basically be a black dot
whats the numbers for it
viscid wraith
Unfortunately everything else except Halo fucking shit itself so Apex gets to sit at the top of the pile of shit games care free still
magic juniper
I'll probably drop Apex when Tekken 8 releases
viscid wraith
*doing literally nothing innovative or new, just rehash shit make recolors and bad battle passes that casual hremlins will slurp up
magic juniper
In the meantime I do like aim training and doing pubs
mortal shell
damm i need new games
For real
I want a good, fast paced shooter without cross play
Still dreaming 😴
viscid wraith
Gl
magic juniper
The battle passes are pretty weak
Last season I got fomo (fear of missing out) for the bp exclusive skin
viscid wraith
There won't be for probably at least 2-3 years if you look at gaming trends over time
magic juniper
But now I'm like...whatever?
clever sleet
apex skins are so shit compared to its competitors tbh
deep linden
I'll drop Apex when I get a proper team in Valorant/Halo
mortal shell
It’s not just AA, it’s the fact that every game is catering towards the most casual of losers and minimizing the skill gap
magic juniper
It's not like these skins mean anything when the game dies
viscid wraith
Not even compared to people, they're just bad lol
mortal shell
Takes the fun out of being better or improving
Look at how modern warfare encourages camping
People legit run out of TIME in TDM
magic juniper
@mortal shell the days of being hardcore
mortal shell
Holy crap I played COD since MW2 and that has never happened
iron dragon
What other FPS games do you guys play?
quake and promod
viscid wraith
Ok if you're struggling to wrap up a tdm in mw that's not the game bruh
deep linden
quake and promod
teach me how to quake
mortal shell
I’ve never heard of pro mod but I’ll look into it
viscid wraith
Steam, test launch title
mortal shell
Ok if you're struggling to wrap up a tdm in mw that's not the game bruh
Bro what, people sit all game and neither team engages so time runs out
viscid wraith
Prob will be that way for another 2 years
iron dragon
teach me how to quake
gladly
need more people to play
mortal shell
It’s been talked about in the sub for 2 years
viscid wraith
Bro what, people sit all game and neither team engages so time runs out
Perfect, more kills for you
Stay off reddit
mortal shell
It’s not even just “get good” but rather everyone including your teammates sit in a room
iron dragon
I’ve never heard of pro mod but I’ll look into it
promod is the cod4 competitive mod, promod, made into its own game and modernized + built on
mortal shell
Slow paced gameplay 😴
viscid wraith
Scum of humanity lives on Reddit and Tiktok
mortal shell
promod is the cod4 competitive mod, promod, made into its own game and modernize...
Sounds interesting
clever sleet
promod is the cod4 competitive mod, promod, made into its own game and modernize...
hows the ttk on that game?
clever sleet
iv
viscid wraith
Scopes are very op
clever sleet
ic*
clever sleet
ill play it when im sick of apex
viscid wraith
I'd play it more if it had a matchmake or something to grjnd
mortal shell
@viscid wraith have you seen this videos where a person spectated a camper for 20 mins
viscid wraith
At it's heart it's not a difficult game
viscid wraith
I've seen that kind of stuff yes
mortal shell
Paid 60 bucks to stare at a wall for 30 mins lol
viscid wraith
My gf could gun most of those kinds of gamers and she doesn't ever play shooters lmao
viscid wraith
I have 5 more hrs before my hour drive home 
viscid wraith
My gf could gun most of those kinds of gamers and she doesn't ever play shooters...
Actually this isn't totally fair Ong she's a prodigy if she ever wanted to play them
She randomly played some kovaaks cause I left it up on my comp and wanted to try it
burnt stone
Top 100
viscid wraith
And she's like fucking baseline VT gold lmao
mortal shell
Must be nice gamer genes
viscid wraith
She plays tft and slay the spire lmao
mortal shell
Do you guys find your tracking to be better than clicking
viscid wraith
Has better reactivity than me
mortal shell
My tracking is years ahead of clicking lol
burnt stone
Make her do click timing so she can speed run tft
viscid wraith
Lmao that's the funny part she plays so.casual and slowly on games
burnt stone
The most efficient buying, selling and placements
viscid wraith
That whipping some good scores out like that I was surprised
viscid wraith
Between her and my.dog both the women in my life are better at tracking then me kekw
rain marsh
Do you guys find your tracking to be better than clicking
Used to be until I worked on static.. now it's about the same
mortal shell
Yea idk if it’s cause most FPS games favor tracking more or because people naturally find it easier to track
deep linden
rain marsh
I think I was better at tracking cuz I did alot of surf and course maps in csgo where you need smooth strafes
rigid jolt
do you guys have to hold shift to spin kunai?
deep linden
do you guys have to hold shift to spin kunai?
unless you have autosprint, yes
rain marsh
I think autosprint is better off
rigid jolt
i had shift bound to walk while i was using autosprint
deep linden
autosprint is good if you have a +walk bind
viscid wraith
Technically you can spin by going wasdw i think
rain marsh
I prefer just to use the toggle sprint
rigid jolt
did i?
mellow kestrel
you asked about improving strafes right
mellow kestrel
yeah yeah just sounded like u didnt know what kovaaks was xd
i might've misread idek
rigid jolt
ah lmao i was talking about link to the fav aimbot strafe you were talking about
not link to kovaaks
mellow kestrel
ooohhhhhh
yeah sec
this is one way to do it
you can do it with and without scrollwheel (tap strafing)
its basically just movement redirect
rigid jolt
ah ok
deep linden
It's a lot easier with scroll wheel
rigid jolt
i was practicing 1v1 strafe fight with a friend on firing range and i was getting rolled lmao
deep linden
but you can do it by just doing a semi-circle with your WASD (WAS/SAW, WDS/SDW)
mellow kestrel
im used to just using wasd for it but i'd say scrolling for it is probably easier for getting it right every time
warning: controller players will shit on you if you do this
most of the time
deep linden
Selly pulled it off against Snipedown tho
mellow kestrel
but it throws mnk players off hard
rigid jolt
so basically jump left and tap right right?
deep linden
no
if you're jumping to the left, you make a semi-circle to the right and vice versa as with the inputs I gave
rain marsh
ah lmao i was talking about link to the fav aimbot strafe you were talking about
I don't think you need to tap strafe to do this just jump and press asd or dsa
rigid jolt
oh ok
rain marsh
But Idk fav aim bot is doing something else or swear cuz he can go so wide on some of those air strafes
I bound a and d to scroll up and scroll down and I seemed to get my horizonal movement that way but idk if that's how those players do that
deep linden
I don't think you need to tap strafe to do this just jump and press asd or dsa
asd isn't right thing I think (as explained through Wokka's video)
mellow kestrel
and hitting the right keys relative to the direction you're going
rain marsh
deep linden
by initially counteracting the initial jump momentum, you basically stand still in the air
rain marsh
This classic right here... I don't see how this is possible still
rain marsh
by initially counteracting the initial jump momentum, you basically stand still ...
What video is that
rain marsh
So you just tap strafe and hit a or d?
Maybe I am hitting w when I'm doing it
Like you said a above
Either way I don't see how that octane clip works
rigid jolt
i recently just learned that you can slide quite quickly after crouching
pretty sick
i would usually run to get momentum then slide
deep linden
So you just tap strafe and hit a or d?
it's not a tap strafe but moreso lurch forward, sideways, then back within 0.5 seconds
alpine trail
what is that pfp😭💀😭💀
deep linden
or back, sideways, then forward within the same time span
deep linden
what is that pfp😭💀😭💀
Dipsy from teletubbies man
alpine trail
she hit rock bottom
deep linden
truly
tap strafing is stacking multiple forward lurches while air strafing
what's being done here is just strafe lurching
rain marsh
But if ur spamming w arnt you lurching forward?
worn sparrow
About a week ago on the 1st
I did the typical check to see if dude is streaming after killed
I think it was in streamer building and you were in the corner inside on the 1st floor next to the stairs
deep linden
But if ur spamming w arnt you lurching forward?
you will lurch forward by just pressing w within 0.5 seconds after a jump
you're not even spamming W in Wokka's method
that's the point of "tap strafing"
stacking multiple forward lurches while air strafing
how do you stack multiple forward lurches?
spam w/scroll wheel if you have it bound
but what Wokka is doing is simply
Lurch back, side, then forward
he didn't tap strafe at all
I don't think any of the Korean/Japanese players tap strafed before it was popular
deep linden
that reticle thing is sick
feels great to play on lmao
trail grail
custom reticle 
deep linden
my reticle's black @trail grail
trail grail
my reticle's black <@!685055034056376362>
I want to put a Mexican flag as my reticle
Haven’t changed mine yet
rain marsh
but what Wokka is doing is simply
Lurch back, side, then forward
The other video posted said you need tap strafe which I think is wrong..
Im pretty sure I already do that semi circle lurch.. it's just that one clip if fav aim bot I don't understand
deep linden
The other video posted said you need tap strafe which I think is wrong..
yeah you definitely don't need tap strafe
it's just easier to do it midfight
what aimbot does is weird tho
I dunno how he did it
but it should be lurch
proven pulsar
I want to put a Mexican flag as my reticle
oi
rain marsh
what aimbot does is weird tho
It might be because he is stimmed?
deep linden
stim just amplifies the lurch because of the velocity boost
but idk his input sequence
anyway
if you do all the inputs within 0.2 seconds
it should have a stronger effect
trail grail
Pain
grim ibex
hello
grim ibex
Apex playlist good for improvement?
grim ibex
Plays ranked or unranked to get better?
alpine trail
ranked
deep linden
I told you man
grim ibex
Thank you
deep linden
that's what I've been tryna say
grim ibex
If anyone would like to play
I am currently diamond 4
I do not have a microphone though
deep linden
If anyone would like to play
what server do you usually play on
deep linden
I'm not gonna play rn it's 5AM
burnt stone
alpine trail
aim training rn, im also only plat 4 rn
burnt stone
Just whip out apex mobile
alpine trail
ic but im not really motiviated rn maybe tomorrow or so have been getting in the mood to play again recently
viscid wraith
Lmao I won't be on till hella late
grim ibex
I would like to add you guys to play sometime
viscid wraith
Won't be home for 5more hrs then I have to sleep for at least 2 or 3
hoary hamlet
cause every time i try to play hdd is at like 100% nd i lag
but we still do shit somewhat
hoary hamlet
Won't be home for 5more hrs then I have to sleep for at least 2 or 3
take care man nd take rest
viscid wraith
I'll prob ask gf to wake me up before 10pst so prob be on sometime after that
hoary hamlet
aight
grim ibex
today I start my aim training journey 🙂
hoary hamlet
i got out about about 12 hours back so ehh yea
grim ibex
Any recommendations for starting out
little verge
Just whip out apex mobile
You joke, but Hideouts banned 22 switch cheaters and no mobile cheaters. Clearly the superior platform.
outer jacinth
hey guys. new to apex, came from overwatch where i have a low sens but think I need a higher one for apex. what kinda sens do you guys run with 400dpi?
grim ibex
he’s very good at cooking
grim ibex
Try 2.4 and 3.6
viscid wraith
You really can't go wrong with most anything between 2-4 400
2 being in some people opinion a little too slow and 4 maybe being a bit too fast (doesn't mean they're bad tho)
viscid wraith
Try 2.4 and 3.6
Personally I play most of the time on what would be 2.2-2.8 for 400, with occasionally taking a day or two to play 4 to keep aim fresh and do a mouse control check @outer jacinth
Ugh fuckin mobile replied to wrong comment lol
rain marsh
i prefer 800 dpi so i can loot faster
viscid wraith
1.5 800 is an extremely popular sens , which is the same equivalent
rain marsh
idk tho i did 400 dpi for ever
outer jacinth
Is there a warmup routine we have anywhere? sorry if stupid question bit of a noob here
viscid wraith
Is there a warmup routine we have anywhere? sorry if stupid question bit of a no...
#resources for voltaic stuff, or google PureG Apex routine
rain marsh
that hurt my ears
outer jacinth
thank you!
outer thunder
anyone here arenas pred?
viscid wraith
Someone needs to make a meme for arena pred along the lines of the voltaic diamond one lol
outer jacinth
does anybody have a warmup routine for people with less time? I only get on to game 2-3 hours in the evening so don't want a 1 hour warmup routine haha
iron dragon
you could cut down the times you repeat a scenario
viscid wraith
Yep just do less replays
outer jacinth
think it's better to do each scenario half the time, or cut a few scenario's out? ummmm
apex is very largely tracking rather than flicking no?
viscid wraith
For most Apex routine s I'd say reduce times played
Apex is primarily tracking focused, which doesn't mean you can't/won't/shouldn't flick but tracking wis technically the more efficient aiming method so there no real reason beyond target acquisition
rain marsh
just make more time
outer jacinth
i work 8 hours a day, go gym most days, work in some yoga, revise for a degree, and try get 8 hours sleep
viscid wraith
I've been doing that shit for years so Im used to it but it's not good for u
outer jacinth
small time left haha
viscid wraith
Ahh busy guy
outer jacinth
I think more sleep would do your aim better no?
viscid wraith
Yep
outer jacinth
30mins aim training before 8 hours sleep > 1hr 30 min training before 7 hour sleep
viscid wraith
My schedule has always been fucky cause I either work long shifts or graveyards or both
outer jacinth
but 8 hours generally recommended
rain marsh
its different for everyone but generally ppl sleep less as they get older
thats why old ppl like all wake up at 5 am
viscid wraith
3-4ish is most I ever get on work days
Sometimes I just take a 1hr power nap and say fuck it lol
Then I usually will sleep a full 8 at some point on days off
Occasionally body shuts the fuck down tho and I pass out for 12
I'm 22 tho been sleeping like this since I was like 13
viscid wraith
I work 12s rn
rain marsh
id half every routine from kovaaks sleep like 5-6 hours a day and sleep 12 on my off day
whats a rerarted
is that a new move tech?
viscid wraith
Fkboy every time I don't look at you pfp close enough my tired ass thinks it looks like Joseph joestar lol I need to find this image
rain marsh
this is a picture of me lol
viscid wraith
Don't ask why I thot that was your pfp for a while tho until I saw it on PC discord lol
rain marsh
i do the same with all sorts of pfp
viscid wraith
Or something along those lines, crusaders era Joseph
spice frost
Hi i have a question, its normal when a play, my mouse pad touch the palm of my hand and gives a rub ? ^^' or is this a bad position and fake my tracking ? thanks for you advice
burnt stone
Hi i have a question, its normal when a play, my mouse pad touch the palm of my ...
Ask in #advice
burnt stone
Fkboy every time I don't look at you pfp close enough my tired ass thinks it loo...
Is it not though
I'm not going to look close enough and ruin the pfp
viscid wraith
Pog I wasn't the only one lol
grim ibex
what is a good controlshpere score
slender pulsar
worn sparrow
is there a smoothness scenario that has the bot going one direction?
kind sandal
Played Kovaaks for like 45 minutes today for the first time in ages, my aim after that havent been this awful in a year
worn sparrow
my right side smoothening is noticeably worse than my left
kind sandal
We'll see what happens if I continue with Kovaaks lol
magic juniper
@kind sandal the grind is real
Some days my aim feels like dog but my average is getting better
mellow kestrel
my right side smoothening is noticeably worse than my left
Same but thats very normal and kinda hard to avoid
Putting your arm in a way less stable and controllable position
grim ibex
tsm ate it
worn sparrow
Same but thats very normal and kinda hard to avoid
ah yeah good to know it aint just me
my right flicks def weaker too
viscid wraith
Is a less natural wrist movement, is very common like scrubs says
Is less noticeable for low sens aimers unless you're doing micro correction low sens op
mellow kestrel
take good care of your wrist while you do so
stretching etc
don't tense up and so on
grim ibex
ill have to look up stretches thank you
i did the apex routine
i should do benchmarks
like qheutie said
mellow kestrel
good way to track progress
mellow kestrel
yeah
if you find them too easy and get ez diamond scores (this won't likely happen, unless you're like actually built different) you can try the normal/advanced ones
mighty brook
@alpine trail
magic juniper
lol the random @
viscid wraith
if anyone wanna play ill be back from cat nap in like 2-3 hrs lmao
first thing i see on twitter, for once not disappointed pog https://twitter.com/ShivFPS/status/1468988853897900041
grim ibex
my clicking
is so bad
1 diamond static 1 diamond dynamic and then all diamond tracking/switching
going to apply for diamond!
what sens do you guys play kovaaks on
mighty brook
@alpine trail
mighty brook
Hello
did you see what Asher said
it’s proof
that you’re better
ahahahahahahhaaha
I win
and you lose
alpine trail
solo to pred or you’re a bot😭😭😈😈‼️‼️🗿LLL😹🤷
burnt stone
i wanna duo trio fugg
alpine trail
im still trying to solo to plat
u dont play enuf tho
mighty brook
i wanna duo trio fugg
i can be a meat shield if u want
alpine trail
smhing
burnt stone
i can be a meat shield if u want
hold up
mighty brook
839054391
burnt stone
i'm on origin kekw
burnt stone
loading up rn
mighty brook
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NOPPO FICKIONMGH SHPTYTTRTTT
NOOOS HOTTRTT
OHH MY GODDDDD
IM LOSING IT
mighty brook
ok um
sorry
my
i am freaking out
my name is euph
but idk if thats how u add on origin
burnt stone
adding on origin is just adding whatever the ign shows
mighty brook
euph
bright elm
mighty brook
alr
mighty brook
mighty brook
i got dicked down by a mirage with a red bolt on his eva that he didnt miss with
i hit him for 130 white while he was in the open
burnt stone
Room for 3rd?
i just want to play duo trios tonight sorry
magic juniper
Fun gamers tonight
viscid wraith
i just want to play duo trios tonight sorry
what server r u guys on, at least let me lobby snipe smh
burnt stone
what server r u guys on, at least let me lobby snipe smh
oregon
alpine trail
anyone need one?
just got streamsniped
champion squad and someone joins chat to say "im stream sniping"
mighty brook
burnt stone
holy shit my hands are so fucking cold
are you still sniping
burnt stone
@mighty brook heading off now, not really feeling these games