apex

[quaint karma]

this goes especially for close range

[echo inlet]

I can't be consistent with mnk for more than 4 hours I really need to switch when I get to that point

[quaint karma]

yeah im tired rn, might just play some roller cuz im bored

[dull falcon]

i have no idea who these teams are

[untold adder]

1v1 ?

[minor root]

nah that 2nd prowler kill was literally aimbot

totally not broken aa

[quaint karma]

💀

[quaint karma]

not today

[untold adder]

okay

[alpine trail]

okay the amount of shitters in diamond who just spam at u with scout

[torn oyster]

It's a pain to deal with scouters across the map being bored

[untold adder]

any 1v1s

[quaint karma]

having controller in your name will get a lot of people angry at you

LMAOOO

2 people got angry

3 others asked about it

[vague nexus]

how long did it take you to get good at roller @quaint karma ?

also did you have any prior experience on a controller?

[quaint karma]

2h

[quaint karma]

i have maybe 2 or 3k hours on console from before 2012

on cod, bf and halo

[vague nexus]

oh so no wonder you got good fast

bruh when i try to turn on a roller i make the stone grinding sound xd

[untold adder]

yo noosh u wanna play sum pubs

[quaint karma]

was about to get off tbh

also

this kryptex dude invited me after he got mad i had controller in my name

[untold adder]

alr

[quaint karma]

he was like

'why you push alone'

then he sat back with his buddy in one spot holding hands

giving enemies the whole map (in arenas)

[untold adder]

how do u know when they r mad

[quaint karma]

seirous brain damage

cuz he was talking to me

on voice

[untold adder]

are the angry people on your team

[quaint karma]

yeah

[untold adder]

or do they really go out of their way to add you

[quaint karma]

nah it was all teammates

[untold adder]

why the fuck are they angry

🥸

[quaint karma]

idk

this guy is the average mnk player

even though he has a 4k

i went to his twitch

[untold adder]

lol

[quaint karma]

terrible shaky aim

i would be mad too

[untold adder]

4k ☠️

[quaint karma]

cuz even a bronze roller will outaim him probably

[untold adder]

they really need to add badges higher than 4k

like a 4.5 or a 5k

[quaint karma]

yeah

this mf was like

'why you push?! cuz you have controller"

no cuz you dont give enemies the whole map

@vague nexusbiggest issue i have is how hard it is to move

compared to what im used to

[untold adder]

oh r u braindead pushing

[quaint karma]

but its fine, i was already doing better today

hadnt really played in a week

no

i was just taking space expecting teammates to move

[untold adder]

i really dont understand why they're mad tho

[quaint karma]

but they just sat in their spot

[untold adder]

are you dying?

[quaint karma]

i died after enemies double swung me cuz team didnt help

[vague nexus]

yeah i move like a bot when playing a roller

[quaint karma]

but i hit them both for 150

and then

nothing happened

they kept sitting back

and then they died

[vague nexus]

i need to play gibby so i could even manage to win a 1v1

[untold adder]

ohh

yeah i prefer solos

[quaint karma]

nah like

[untold adder]

helps me with positioning

[quaint karma]

idk if you know arenas maps

on overflow

bad players have this tendency to just move to this one spot

and sit there

[untold adder]

is that the lava one

[quaint karma]

3 people holding hands

yeah

the 2 spots that mirror each other

[untold adder]

where the spot

[quaint karma]

on the side near the slope

[untold adder]

the bin?

[quaint karma]

no

let me find a map

[untold adder]

the right side?

by the bridge?

[quaint karma]

the spot you can see here

in the front

the place where people always go

[untold adder]

you couldnt put some red arrows

or a circle

[quaint karma]

idk

lmao

[untold adder]

yeah

the right side by the bridge

i mainly see people go to the bin tbh

i like one clipping them

[quaint karma]

if theyre too scared to fight they just sit there

and poke

and then

[untold adder]

yikes

[quaint karma]

if enemy team is smart

[untold adder]

true arena players

[quaint karma]

which they arent

but if they were

you can just walk where the red circle is

and shoot at the people in green circle

and they cant do shit

lol

[untold adder]

i hate arenas

id rather just go to the bin and aim assist 2 of them and die to the third

[quaint karma]

thats what i was trying to do

[untold adder]

yeah

good thinking

i thought you were playing br and solo pushed a trio

[strong mural]

are u playing in EU or NA??

[dull falcon]

comp apex is always nice

[alpine trail]

the amount of braindead kids in arenas placements is wild. they get a knock, then they suicide

https://twitter.com/i/status/1598449606698078210 🙀

PurrkourCat (@PurrkourCat)

1v3 1 HP #ApexLegends

▶ Play video

Twitter · Dec 1, 2022, 10:50 PM

[unborn token]

Indeed

Still no idea why they full sent us like 300 meters across

When the other team is right next to them

Na diamond lobby gaming

Almost one cliped horizon

[lusty vault]

huge fan

[alpine trail]

Thanks oyu!!! 🧡

[lethal wraith]

clean 😎

[alpine trail]

🧡

[torn oyster]

"okay guise i'll hold this angle and play the wall, he'll never get me" type energy

why didnt he just send when it was an inital 2v1

[alpine trail]

okayy, not afraid of the 1hp

good stuff

clean

Thanks you!!!

[alpine trail]

Mole rats playing!

[dull falcon]

do i have to aim train everyday

[torn oyster]

i mean i would take breaks but if you have an hour or so out of your day to, yeah.

but i really wouldnt put in like 4-6 hours/ day

[vast oak]

man fuck this game no matter what other games i try i just miss apex its the only game that hits like this but the comp is fucked and devs are tanking game but its still all i want to do i want to not want to play it but i can just put apex in an iv bag and give it to me fuck

its in such a bad place but still all i want to do is play ranked

FUCk

[chrome agate]

Where did the vast majority of apex players come from?

Apex pros I mean

[vast oak]

i think H1 and pubg

for most part no?

[chrome agate]

I guess what I really mean to ask is where they got their ~nova tier aim from

Since apex/pubg have utterly ridiculous down time

You have to be quite talented to build fairly exceptional aim from just queuing games with like only 4 minutes of duels total

[vast oak]

i mean id argue they dont which is why controller is so used in apex pro play

game is mostly positioning

to

like 95 percent of it

imo

[devout tusk]

What pros have nova tier aim

[little verge]

Plus you've got players who came from other shooters where there wasn't as much downtime and could spend the time playing 8-10 hours a day. Kovaaks is useful because it's really time efficient and dense but if you got all the time in the world to just play a ton of games that can do a lot already.

[chrome agate]

I watch sweet sometimes and there's no way if he invested some time in kvks he wouldn't get nova

[vast oak]

sweet is macro

af i guess i dont see it

[chrome agate]

I know for some csgo pros who get nova/GM with tracking included

I'd say they are all roughly that level

[vast oak]

like all apex pros ?

[chrome agate]

Nah

[vast oak]

are nova ish lvl are u saying?

oh

ok

i was gonna say ur insane xD

[chrome agate]

I have seen some pro with kinda weak aim

But superior positioning

Yeah I should have clarified I mean the pros with great aim

[vast oak]

examples?

surly not doop

xD

[chrome agate]

I forgot

[carmine viper]

I am confused

[vast oak]

as u should

[chrome agate]

It was on the kvks subreddit

[carmine viper]

Earlier salt said majority of pros

Looks like you asked where did majority of pros get aim from?

[vast oak]

redditors on sumthin

[vast oak]

yes?

[chrome agate]

Let me see who it was

[devout tusk]

pros have good understanding of the game mechanics and the game environments, their raw aim is usually not that crazy

[frigid bramble]

i feel this so much

[chrome agate]

Would you say raw aim matters less for apex than tac fps?

[little verge]

Aim matters very little in Apex when the best way to aim is with a controller.

[devout tusk]

more but still not that much

[chrome agate]

The way I see it you still need aim superior than most players to be able to correct a bad situation or position

Or not to get shit on by randoms

[devout tusk]

sure

[vast oak]

yea u cant be a bot but nova aim is wayyy above average

[devout tusk]

like taskmast33r maybe has nova tracking

[chrome agate]

That's what I mean though, sometimes you really need that edge to one clip consistently

[devout tusk]

and his tracking is a huge outlier among pros

[chrome agate]

And move immediately to your next fight

[carmine viper]

If raw aim mattered a lot, then Firebeavers would be winning everything

[vast oak]

i mean diamond aim is enough to one clip pretty consistently imo

[carmine viper]

Aim doesn't mean shit when you get pushed 1v2, or are stuck in LOS of 100 teams

[chrome agate]

Hmm maybe I don't apply my training to game a lot

It took me like master to be able to get one clips lol

[vast oak]

for me it was around plat when i was getting consistent 1 clips

idk

[devout tusk]

kvk kinda tricked me into thinking apex aim was harder than it is cause i used to play like cfsi and would try tracking the same way

but apex characters really dont move that fast

[little verge]

I'd say Jade was when I was probably playing my best, but that's also when I was playing considerably more Apex. Now I barely touch the game and understandably do poorly because of it.

[vast oak]

bloodhound💀

[little verge]

Until you get those McDonalds wifi console players phasing through closed doors and suddenly Apex becomes Ground Plaza.

[devout tusk]

truu

[chrome agate]

Now that I think about it I remember effortlessly beating my brother in "pure" tracking like diabotical but in apex I had no chance

There's so much fcking clutter

When I get dealt damage I think it throws me off

[devout tusk]

yeah i body my friends in those types of games but apex is pretty even

cause i dont play it much anymore

cant process all the bs

[chrome agate]

I'd have to grind apex a ton to be able to apply my aim

[vast oak]

ok strange take

for me

[little verge]

Yeah, I'm pretty much done with BR much less BR + rotational aim assist + 20hz servers + rampant cheating problems and all the other mishandlings of Apex.

[vast oak]

visual clutter in apex has never bothered me

like ever

[little verge]

Nothing is going to improve at this rate, Respawn's locked into rotating rehashed content while charging for absurd collection events.

[vast oak]

didnt know it was a problem till i joined vt

[devout tusk]

did you play in the autoexec era

[chrome agate]

All apex needs is deathmatch

Could play that for hours

[vast oak]

idk

[devout tusk]

having the game be clear and then going to what it is now is a big part of it for me

if i never experienced it without the clutter i doubt i would be as annoyed

[vast oak]

before apex i played ark pvp for like 5 years

[chrome agate]

And not to mention the flinch

[vast oak]

mayb im desensitized to it

cuz that games not clear at all

[devout tusk]

man ark pvp, i always wanted to get into it but

i knew i would lose my mind

[vast oak]

yea no

its bad

shots just dont register 50% of the time

[devout tusk]

the game is so cool though

as an idea

[vast oak]

yea no its great as an idea

so good

if it worked i would never play another game

[dull falcon]

na fam i literally saw a cheater today

platy lobbies

why even bother at that point

[little verge]

I got into a lobby that was almost solely not people from NA, and the cheater I died to was someone I've reported already on three separate occasions.

It's pretty bad when you legitimately remember a name for that reason and they're still actively playing.

[dull falcon]

im not crazy am i?
https://outplayed.tv/media/W7ll5P

@little verge

[sonic pasture]

is it just me or has the audio become worse than ever in this season??

[little verge]

Could certainly be, though it could have also just been super slow sens roller.

[true ravine]

roller

3 - 3

[sonic pasture]

dont use a 2x at that range

[little verge]

That's a spectate screen.

[sonic pasture]

haha ,sorry

[little verge]

All good lol

[untold adder]

that aint roller

[dull falcon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA0NxD2KCCM

how do i get like this but like his arm stays anchored very well

[true ravine]

if it was aimbot he would kill all of them with 100% headshot

[untold adder]

smartest apex player

[true ravine]

it is just a low sens roller

nah, im just not a crybaby like u all

[untold adder]

you dont ever move your crosshair up and down like that

specially on controller

[true ravine]

smartest apex player

[sonic pasture]

ok, so if it was aimbot, why wasn't that enemy dead in record time?

[true ravine]

he literally just moved left to right right to left

[untold adder]

also look at how fast he turns around

and that little shake at the end

thats mnk if ive ever seen it

[untold adder]

first apex player to learn that not all aimbots are 100% headshot

could be closetting

[true ravine]

high sens hipfire low sens ads

[true ravine]

people in this chat waste more time calling people cheaters than actually playing the game

[frigid bramble]

i’ve jus come back from playing over watch and no apex for like a day and a bit, now on apex and idk if it’s jus czuse i was on over watch or what, but in apex looking around feels so sluggish and slow and maybe kinda like mad input lag even tho in quite a lot faster sens in apex than i was on over watch

[sonic pasture]

you don't need 100% headshot to kill people in record time. body shots are still more than enough. if that was aim bot, that guy probably wasted money for a shitty one that doesn't do the job

[frigid bramble]

i’m literally so stuck on this scen. i been doing it cause i’m doing e1se’s beginner playlist and i can only get a high score for 16.5k but i need 18k to get a passing score on his playlist

[untold adder]

yep

[true ravine]

overwatch movement pace is just slow af

[sonic pasture]

i just notice a fuck ton of deadslides. It gets on my nerves lol

[true ravine]

count to 3 then slide jump

[frigid bramble]

but what i’m saying is apex now feels REEEAAALLY slow n sluggish

[sonic pasture]

2 seconds are enough to be 100% sure

[frigid bramble]

but it could be me going from a game where i had no input lag back to apex where i got bad input lag maybe n i’ve never noticed it cause i don’t play anything else? i’m not sure

[dull falcon]

not the beginner plus one >

?

[true ravine]

idk, i use the 3 countdown to hit it safe

[sonic pasture]

but it depends on when you start counting. 2 seconds when you land on the ground after the jump

[untold adder]

just look at your hands

once your hands pop up 3 times you can slide

[frigid bramble]

whatchu mean “plus one”? i’m just doing “e1se’s beginner playlist”

[sonic pasture]

isn't this tip only if you have heirloom

[untold adder]

no

[untold adder]

only if you dont have one

[dull falcon]

@frigid bramble

[true ravine]

there is begginer, begginer plus and another one

[untold adder]

if you have an heirloom you really shouldnt be deadsliding

[frigid bramble]

yup this one bro

jus the normal beginner

is beginner plus harder scores or scenarios or something?

[true ravine]

harder scenarios

and harder accuracy requisites

[frigid bramble]

fuckkkkkkk thatttttt

[true ravine]

just do it

[frigid bramble]

beginner is hard enough i head the passing / graduation scores are jade to master voltaic lvl

[true ravine]

dont overthink too much

he gives u all the tips that u need to do well in those maps

[frigid bramble]

i’ve got passing and graduation scores for all in the beginner playlist tho except the last two. centering 90+ no strafe and the last centering one

[frigid bramble]

mmmmmm yeah he does but i got a lotta road blocks that no one’s been able to help me wit so far

[true ravine]

do this

put your FOV on 80 OW

and increase your sens 1.5x

and play like, 10-20 min each scen

then u try it again on the normal FOV and normal sens

you'll see a huge improvement on your smoothness

[dull falcon]

my best onthat is like 14k

[frigid bramble]

but why. how?

cause like i wanna kno why i’m smoother and how i’m smoother, so when i’m aiming in a game i can translate it

[true ravine]

like

[frigid bramble]

and i can consciously apply it😂. so like what’s doing the fov and sens thing do? is it a placebo?

is it like how you get use to high sens n go back to low sens n it feels extra slow n aimbotty?

[true ravine]

the FOV and the sens increased will feel like, fast af

so if u learn to be smooth on this

[dull falcon]

the sensitivity increase helps for mouse control or something

[true ravine]

when u try on your normal fov and sens

will be easier to be smooth

[sonic pasture]

yeah, i don't know why people recommend to change fov and sens. that shit messes up muscle memory right

[true ravine]

bruh

[frigid bramble]

in voltaic, muscle memory is a myth 👀

[dull falcon]

this was easy

[frigid bramble]

nah but it helps you be more adaptive. if you control high sens you improve mouse control at a faster rate n when you go back to low sens boom you’re a demon

[frigid bramble]

fuck offffff

how tf what cm are you on

i use 28.8cm on that scen

[dull falcon]

like 57 im a low sensitivity player

[untold adder]

what happened to lyr1c

[dull falcon]

i used to be like 43 or 42

[true ravine]

🤏 low skill

[dull falcon]

yessirki, idk ever since i went low sens i been enjoying it

its so much fun

[frigid bramble]

hm.. i could go that low n possibly get 18k easy, but what i’m afraid of is like

i would want to get that score n that accuracy from being somewhat around my usual gaming sens right otherwise how do i apply that in game

if on my normal sens i can’t be THAT accurate

[true ravine]

like

[frigid bramble]

that’s why i never change sens on kovaak for a specific scen

[true ravine]

the e1se's sheet is to be a thing where u improve your aim everyday until you hit those scores

dont cheese it

practice

[frigid bramble]

okay, goodddddd good

you kno what.. that’s caused me a lot of stress

[true ravine]

and dont play to get scores, play to get better then you'll get scores

[frigid bramble]

since people say “change your sens if you need” but i don’t want to it feels like that’s jus me getting a score, not learning you feel me

[true ravine]

if youre not having fun or enjoying it

dont do it

[dull falcon]

i play on 57 cm for apex aswell i dont cheese scores by changing sens

[true ravine]

take a break

theres no reason to play if youre having stress

[frigid bramble]

oh well that’s good as brother. was sens is that in game?

[frigid bramble]

buuuuuuut yah

[true ravine]

in the end, its a game and games are made to be fun

if u dont have fun on it, theres no reason to play

[frigid bramble]

i’m stressing cause my aim is bad and i’m stuck having all these problems with no solutions no matter how much i ask, therefore i’m stressed. i continue to play the scen tho so i can hopefully improve or have a random break through and be like OHHH that’s what i need to change or ohhh that’s what i need to do with my arm to blah blah blah

[dull falcon]

800 dpi .9

higher sens and trying to be smoother u feel it in ur forearms idky

[true ravine]

if u need any advice, theres #advice chat, and also, u can tag me or DM me if u want, i can help u with anything that i can help

also, all the information that u need is on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7S-mafDz08 this channel is the best in information about aim training imo

Ridd makes great videos about it

and its easy to understand what he says

so

give it a try

[frigid bramble]

maynnnne i always post in advice and i appreciate the responses i get i really do, but i’ve rarely ever gotten a response that works for me or something that i haven’t already tried/ am doing currently

i do have one recent thing in advice i posted a couple hours ago that nobodies replied to. maybe you can check that out? 😄

[true ravine]

sure

[true ravine]

like, if youre having problems with arm tracking

first of all

you will need to fix some things

like

u said u cant be smooth while doing it

if u want to use your arm well

u shouldnt be playing at 28cm

thats kinda high

i would consider to use 34.6 or 35

[little verge]

Yeah, 43-51cm is a nice range to really drive home the use of arm movements.

[true ravine]

also

about you feeling stuck

[frigid bramble]

i trained last week for a full week on 18.55cm and made a video out of it. i didnt do that bad for 18 😄 28.8 for me feels like what 43 USE to feel like

[true ravine]

this is super normal

you will not get higher scores everyday cuz youre practicing

you will be stuck all the time

this is why u practicing

[little verge]

Exactly, progress is never linear. It's a series of peaks and valleys.

[dull falcon]

i will never go back to high sens, took a while (this was on 800 dpi 1.5)

[true ravine]

to get higher skill and then be stuck in higher level of aim

[dull falcon]

honestly dont chase highscores

the scores are the byproduct

[true ravine]

dont feel bad cuz you cant beat your highscore after some days

[frigid bramble]

redwastaken did you see the pic i put up about my arm and a certain area feeling tense / worked? also i know 34cm might be better, but hang on, let me do a vod for you real quick ill go shoot in centering 90 rn and you'll see what i mean. im smooth, but i have random skips forward / jumps off the target, but im having like weird muscle spasms or twitches if you will

[true ravine]

record it

[frigid bramble]

what do you suggest instead?

[dull falcon]

i think this is a wrist thing

[true ravine]

take a break

improve other things

health

mentality

learn new things

sleep better

start at gym

[frigid bramble]

i've made sure for this specific scenario to not use my wrist even tho e1se suggests to do it because when you switch between arm and wrist range of motion the transition wont be smooth, whatever tf that means

[true ravine]

everyday youre doing your best

[frigid bramble]

VT matty told mostly or even fully only use my arm on that scen

[true ravine]

but your best changes everyday

thats why athletes try to get consistent at things, like, good shape, health, nutrition

so they can be always in high level

[frigid bramble]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......

being consistent.. id fkn love that. i know that my current best days, will be my worst days in the future, but if i could consistently have my current best days, i'd be a demon and i think id for sure pop off on youtube eventually for my clips

[true ravine]

Cristiano Ronaldo isnt good cuz he plays football all the time, hes good cuz he is consistent, and to get consistency he does everything he needs to improve in all aspects

[frigid bramble]

so that leads me into this question. how do you get consistent aim? yes aim train every day is something i hear a lot

[true ravine]

consistent habits

[little verge]

Good habits, effective practice executed with intention, and enough time to warrant growth from your routine.

[devout tusk]

i didnt get consistent aim until i started grinding like controlsphere type stuff

[frigid bramble]

okay well in the meantime of getting my 18k centering score, i should focus on other asspects of tracking aim, right? i should focus on reactivity but NOT the scores, fuck the scores, i should try every single day to NOT predict and only move my crosshair once i see the target switch ways

[devout tusk]

like constant deliberate control of the mouse

[frigid bramble]

ahhhhh okay. whats some scens you'd recommend like that then?

[true ravine]

first of all, you need to set a goal

dont go for grandmaster in a month

but

[little verge]

I also think grinding one scenario for a long time isn't necessarily you improving as much as it's you becoming more efficient at that scenario. Weight lifters avoid using the same routines all the time for the same reason.

[true ravine]

try something that u know u can hit it 100%

[sonic pasture]

what do you guys think about 3.2 in-game apex sens at 400dpi? higher than what it should be?

[frigid bramble]

ight bet bet bet. ill try graduation score in GP close long strafes

[devout tusk]

vertical hell, b180t voltaic regen, controlsphere are the ones i play the most

[true ravine]

1600 dpi .8

[frigid bramble]

or the other GP scen. thats realistic, ive already got passing score

[true ravine]

is the default sens of most pros

[devout tusk]

also tamts control hard

pasu small tracking

[true ravine]

e1ses tracking sheet

u need to get graduate scores

to level up

and do other practice

[frigid bramble]

target (passing) score is 5,500 on gp close long and autp gp far long strafes, graduation / completion score is 5,900 for both

[true ravine]

sure

[dull falcon]

i keep falling into this

[true ravine]

https://bit.ly/3NHPfyC

[frigid bramble]

okay, lets set myself some goals right now in between playing the scen im stuck on, centering 90 easy+ no strafes.

Goal 1, i will play gp close / far in the meantime and focus on absolutely no prediction, otherwise i restart the scen

[true ravine]

gonna sleep rn, i want to see Brazil winning later, gn guys

[true ravine]

practice everything

[frigid bramble]

gn brother, thanks for the help

[dull falcon]

ngl i hate gp for practicing not predicting

it moves too fast i can barely react

[frigid bramble]

what score you got on both?

[little verge]

It's a tough habit to break but it's so worth it, trust.

I used to really struggle with my reactivity on that scenario and it'd tilt me to no end.

[dull falcon]

when i was heavy with gp9 i peaked at 8k rn im like 5k best is 6k

[frigid bramble]

what kunnnnn how tf you get 8k

thats gotta be top 100

far or close?

[devout tusk]

on vss gp9?

i have almost 10k

and not even top 1000

[frigid bramble]

ohh gp9 my bad my bad

im st00pid

[frigid bramble]

talkn bout e1se beginner playlist. the gp far long strafes easy and gp close long strafes easy

you aint far, just 200 more points

thats the target score thats what youre tryna aim for, 22,800

i got 23,184 on that one

there ya go, completion score

what cm are u on

[little verge]

Everyone starts somewhere. I remember after my first fifty hours on Kovaaks I thought I was hot shit and on a whim tried to do the sparky benchmarks and was silver with some gold scores.

Move past the ego and accept that feeling is your awareness both your weakness that you can move beyond, and the breadth of the skillset you're starting to familiarize yourself with.

[frigid bramble]

i currently have 150 hrs on kovaaks 👀

[little verge]

I don't mean ego in the sense of inflated confidence but rather just a way people are averse to coming to terms with growth.

Yeah, not trying to be condescending lol. You'll grow in time though, and there's lots of useful information and people on the discord.

[lusty elk]

Damn took a 2 week break from PC, aim shaky AFFFF

[dull falcon]

no i remember when i did the vt benchmarks

that shit made me rethink life

[lusty elk]

this is an interesting convo, because I only had like 200 hours of apex before I first did Kovaaks, and that was my lifetime FPS hours lol.

Interesting to know even experienced FPS players fumbles at Kovaaks at first

[dull falcon]

i couldnt even hit silver scores

[lusty elk]

now thats unexpected

I thought FPS players start at gold or plat

interesting

[untold adder]

what are vt benchmarks

im an fps player

[dull falcon]

nah i struggled to get to gold complete

target switching was my worse enemy

i havent done the benchmarks in a minute i dont even know how to go about it anymore tbh

[little verge]

I think static was my best by far when I started, though I also had awful technique. I used a lot of friction, tension, and low sens back then so it was easy to crutch. Who needs microcorrections when you just tense and push into the pad to stop?

[dull falcon]

i still dont understand static

like what is this large margin of technique and speed between the ranks

from like diamond and up

[gentle mantle]

Speed of micro correction

[lusty elk]

speed of micro correction, target acquisition, flick speed and accuracy

I notice that static improvement comes in bursts

once you force yourself to flick faster and tank your score, after like 2 weeks you become accurate for that speed and your score improves like boom

[dull falcon]

my scores wee def tanking

[lusty elk]

yeah, trying to improve your accuracy for a faster speed will tank your score*

but that's normal

dont get disheartened

not that static really matters much for apex

tbh

[little verge]

I think it's too easy to feel like you have to be smooth but if you also never push for speed you never really challenge that side either, and so your gains in score will be minimal at best.

[dull falcon]

the "smoothness" comes from having speed sorta

[little verge]

I remember when I thought I'd never break past 1550 for VT multiclick.

[dull falcon]

i need to get back into the benchmarks but im not even sure how to break it down since its been a long time

[unborn token]

noice

850 pasu

chad

[lusty elk]

Ayo I didnt see you get your plat badge gratz fam

[unborn token]

ah yes

im also close to diamond

but i wanna submit when master

[lusty elk]

What

Damn thats a lot of progress in 2 weeks

[unborn token]

30 energy off

need to get some scores

[lusty elk]

Hell yeah nice one keep it up man

[unborn token]

my smoothbot is a jade score choke

[unborn token]

my ts was shit but i learned the technique

grinded some aimerz+ benches too

[lusty elk]

well about time to plateau abit I guess what with all those improvements

nicee

Ill get back to grinding now that Im back

[unborn token]

this was the sheet yesterday

but i got +10 energy

got my psalm ts platg

[lusty elk]

👍 👍

[unborn token]

[devout tusk]

im just different

oh lmao i thought there was headshot damage

[echo inlet]

Should I keep grinding ranked solo? I'm currently platinum 3 but it's difficult soloqing. every team basically three stacks and I either die or have to hard carry teammates who can't hit a single shot lmao

[unborn token]

Soloqing plat shouldn't be an issue

But idk you can go on apex server and find one sane human

Then it's free rp

[lethal wraith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/326941062893535242/1048241056526909542/HmmMeeting.gif

[sonic pasture]

is there any way to reduce volume of the sound effects of healing without reducing the volume of sound of footsteps??

[lethal wraith]

N

there's some scuffed ways to do it, but it's not good

also iirc the sounds in apex aren't well designed

they all cover the same gamut

while games with proper sfx have stuff like footsteps and bullet sfx cover differ ranges

[devout tusk]

its the same with visuals

everything in apex is the same value

nothing pops at all

[tepid salmon]

I honestly wonder how they fucked shit up like that

like theres no games with perfect audio, all of them could be better, but for a triple a game its awful

[lethal wraith]

there was a way to have waaaaaaaaaaaay better audio but they disabled that option

one downside was that audio ways way more fucked up vertically

[tepid salmon]

was it the launch options/cfg

[lethal wraith]

it was miles_occlusion 0

basically it's supposed to make walls muffle sounds and whatnot

but it just does not work properly at all

I mean you can see how it works rn because it's force enabled

with miles_occlusion 0 you could hear people hop on ziplines extremely audibly

[tepid salmon]

ohhh

[lethal wraith]

https://streamable.com/m2nxlz

[tepid salmon]

yeah I think I had that in r5

[lethal wraith]

oh I still have the clip, this is with miles_occlusion 0

I'm in the train building btw )

[wary star]

same

like 20 away

😭

[devout tusk]

i was so mad when they disabled that

still am

[lethal wraith]

same

I legit don't think I complained about no audio when I had that disabled

[devout tusk]

like why, you left it for 2 years

[lethal wraith]

It

[devout tusk]

"ah man the pc players are using commands again for a better gaming experience we cant have that"

[lethal wraith]

's so sad, because miles_occlusion is fucking not even done well and they force it

like brooooo

[sonic pasture]

probably the worst audio design ever. like why the fuck do i need to hear myself healing at that high volume? makes no fucking sense

[tepid salmon]

dont they actually play sounds from the whole map?

[unborn token]

Οοφ

Oof

Mine is13

Away

Pretty sad

[tepid salmon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bmUYROQNv4

yeah this

[quaint karma]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/326941062893535242/1048241056526909542/HmmMeeting.gif

[dull falcon]

apparently the audio stacks idk what that means

[little verge]

Source is limited to a number of sounds that can be in a queue. Now realize you hear sounds from all over the map and everything has a sound effect right down to scrolling through a deathbox, and it's no wonder it's a massive problem.

But Respawn chose to make it worse by restricting the disabling of occlusion and, despite knowing of the problematic areas, kept adding fifty thousand fucking ambient and UI sounds that somehow take precedence.

[wet skiff]

Yea they claim it's just an engine problem but they could at least try to work around it

same with visual clarity, they could very easily make a game that looks great but doesn't visually obscure the target in gun fights. Like it's really, really not that hard to fix some of the visuals. I gave them a whole ass document about it, we'll see if jay implements any of the suggestions though or if it just falls on deaf ears

[little verge]

Doubtful, they said they were looking into visual clutter a long while back when PVPx made an exhaustive thread.

Just the usual lip service with no payoff.

[vague nexus]

thank god, maybe respawn will finally look into it and fix it

[tepid salmon]

uhh

its 2 years old

[vague nexus]

oh

lmao

i thought its a new video

[tepid salmon]

nah lmao

[wet skiff]

Sure. But likely a big part of why those things are ignored is because they don't format it in a way that leads to useable, actionable items. Many devs don't play games or are mega casual and don't understand the nuances of the complaints.

That's why when they "fixed muzzle flash" back in S5, it was so disappointing. They didn't understand the actual complaint(which was that you couldn't see you target during gunfights), and thought players specifically wanted just the muzzle flash and nothing else tweaked, which is what they did. It did help, but of course the real complaint wasn't specifically the muzzle flash, it was visual clarity as a whole. But the devs can't understand that, they just see thousands of people on twitter complaining about something that they don't really have a problem with, and most of those users aren't helpful or really understand the issue themselves they're just mad and being dicks about it on twitter

[tepid salmon]

I wonder how, or rather if they will actually fix matchmaking in december

[wet skiff]

and even if they do understand the complaints, they have to convince their leads that it's a real complaint and that changing it will bring in money, otherwise it's a waste of time and they'll be focusing on things to improve profitability or other, higher priority issues. They don't see 1:1 with the playerbase at all, and many don't play the game so they don't understand the complaints at all.

so even if you have someone like jay who DOES play the game he still has to go through an entire team who don't play games and try to convince them to change something trivial that has no measurable impact on the game, and will require a ton of work and likely cause a ton of bugs, etc

[gentle mantle]

this new font is goofy

[dull falcon]

im crying rnnnn

[lusty vault]

What font

[dull falcon]

my scores are depressing

im going back to grinding benchmarks now and its been months

ill do this later

my mental state is meh rn

[devout tusk]

grind pogsphere goated instead

[lusty vault]

Grind ascended tracking

[gentle mantle]

the new discord font

[lusty vault]

I don’t see on mobile

[gentle mantle]

[devout tusk]

its the same for me

[gentle mantle]

strange

i hate clicking so much

[dull falcon]

its clicking

[gentle mantle]

yh it has changed for u also

[dull falcon]

the bounceshot one

[gentle mantle]

i just hate all clicking

it pisses me off

[devout tusk]

i feel like the s and t are diff

maybe its my font size

[gentle mantle]

s

t

i think the spacing feels slightly different aswell

eww

its really annoying

so subtle yet so different

[dull falcon]

yall know any good 60 percent keyboards

[devout tusk]

my ducky was pretty nice until i started playing tekken

and the s and d key stopped working

[dull falcon]

send the link

https://www.keychron.com/collections/60-layout-keyboards

i was looking at these but they look so plain and boring

[gentle mantle]

you could build one its expensive tho

[devout tusk]

just google ducky 60% cause i dont think they even sell them on their website

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=111 oh here

[little verge]

I'll always be an advocate against ducky. Their customer service is fucking abysmal.

[dull falcon]

where are they based?

[lusty vault]

That is very much the truth

[fringe girder]

love some of apex randoms

choked the 4k

[lusty vault]

Franks frying

[fringe girder]

it sometimes feels like apex match making system pairs you with 2 teammates who arent rly that good so you can "carry" them

[vague nexus]

yeah, people call it big brother matchmaking

if you are above like 2 kd you will get lower level players on your team and really really rarely you will actually get someone to carry you

[fringe girder]

the game after that i just played i could already feel the difference bunch of arena preds in the lobby and masters

[vague nexus]

sometimes the newbies are nice and i dont mind carrying someone, but usually that not the case, i get sub level 100 players who think the know the game better than me and flame me for everything

[fringe girder]

im ngl i dont even remember people talking or using voice chat alot in apex at all

[vague nexus]

i get controller players a lot who have push to talk disabled

like every 5th game

[fringe girder]

like i havent played in a while but its kinda new to me hearing people use in game vc and giving callouts and stuff in pubs

its more freqeuent

makes sense

[quaint karma]

controllers dont hvae a push to talk button

[fringe girder]

(not controller)

[lusty vault]

Your digital vibrance makes me want to commit war crimes

Nice clips though

[unborn token]

[fringe girder]

why is my steam saying apex is running but its not

i also checked task mngr no instances of it is there

[devout tusk]

could be eac

[fringe girder]

closed all that nothing solves it

hm i solved it i think

openeed local files and launched easy anti cheat exe and it worked

hope i dont have to do this everytime

[unborn token]

IS THAT

ASSETTO CORSA>>/?!?

[fringe girder]

i have 1hr played

💀

need wheel

[fringe girder]

LMAO idk why i laughed at that 10dmg in the beginning

[little verge]

It's that cheeky disrespect, I love it.

[placid root]

So weird seeing myself from a 3rd person perspective

but yeah, that movement wasn't doing much against an EVA-8

💀

[vague nexus]

wish they made the railings shoot trough

[gentle mantle]

That lurch strafe tho 😯

[placid root]

It was a lurch + tapstrafe

[gentle mantle]

It was nice

Ras strafe?

[placid root]

idk honestly lol

I just use the tap strafe bind in combination with lurching

and it makes the forward-facing lurches way faster

[gentle mantle]

True

There are two variants of ras

The single tap strafe

And double tap strafe

[placid root]

• If you go into a crouch from a jump (without jump fatigue), you go into a slide

[placid root]

it helps a lot with getting in and out of fights without being slow

[gentle mantle]

Yeah it's good

You can combine lurches with bhops as well

To combo them

As well as to get Imvand out of fights

Plus I find you are hard to hit when bhoppign and you are less susceptible to bullet slow

[placid root]

I love bhopping after someone while hipfiring a gun lmao

they expect me to not re-peek

[gentle mantle]

Hahaha challing for the win

Bhop + w lurch is so fun

Sprint speed hip fire while circling them

[placid root]

lmfao

[gentle mantle]

Jonei has a video on it would recommend if you haven't seen it

[placid root]

will look for it rn since I have nothing else to do

@gentle mantle Were you talking about the "Yuki" strafe?

I found it and I was apparently using it without knowing what it was

[gentle mantle]

No this is different

[placid root]

really?

[gentle mantle]

This is another lurch + tap strafe

Combo

Like ras

[placid root]

hm

idk then

[gentle mantle]

Or pito

I'll send you it

[placid root]

All I know is that I wasn't really looking up videos for it

It's just what I thought of in the Firing Range

[gentle mantle]

https://youtu.be/JxJDi_eOYF0

^

[placid root]

ah, I was doing something like his bhopping but by tapping W 💀

[gentle mantle]

Works but not as effective

[placid root]

yeah

[blazing path]

Someone down for some 1v1s for tracking?

[placid root]

the walljumps oml

insane

how tf do you use the EVA-8 that well lmao

half-way through the shots, my brain just shuts off

and I whiff everything without panicking

[white bramble]

my tracking aim is pretty good in kovaaks but icant hit shit in this game

[little verge]

Makes sense, you can actually see what you're aiming at in Kovaaks and don't have recoil, aim punch, etc.

[night plume]

my heirlooms from the glitch are gone

sad

heart is broken

[lusty vault]

nt

[half bramble]

are higher sensitivities actually better for tracking? ik it’s all mouse control and preference overall, but I was just wondering

[vague nexus]

its a little easier, cause tracking needs a lot of mousepad space on low sense and when you drift closer to the edge of the pad it become uncomfortable to aim

but sense is something you shouldnt force on yourself, just play whatever feels comfortable atm

[half bramble]

alright thank you

[dull falcon]

relax

[blazing path]

Someone down to run some games, or go in the range?

[alpine trail]

a friend of mine was trying to convince me ranked lobbies were different when comparing solo queueing vs having a full party

true?

i cant find any evidence except for like 2-4 yr old posts

[dull falcon]

theyre less aggro and one of the big differences to that is you dont try to land as hot and plus the higher you go rotations start to matter

[alpine trail]

i see, yeah i agree with all that. his point was more that a higher % of enemy teams in solo q lobbies for example are solo q'ers or duos with an extra random rather than a party of 3

if that makes sense

[dull falcon]

diamond score

[vast oak]

any tips on how to get used to not using auto sprint i feel like a fucking potato

my gameplay looks like its my first time playing the game without it

[frigid bramble]

what sens is this

that eva play at the door was hectic😂 fkn oathhh good shit

[true ravine]

Go to firing range and practice

[vast oak]

did fine there but in game i cant function

xD

[dull falcon]

low sens is better for tracking

[true ravine]

just keep playing, u'll get better with some time

what i used to do to play without auto sprint is spam shift when i slide jump

[atomic path]

guys I found out my aim has weakness at tracking close fast strafe targets

Is there anything I can do to improve?

[dull falcon]

idk how i won this

https://outplayed.tv/media/wRmJlX

[true ravine]

practice tracking close fast strafe targets

???

[vast oak]

autro sprint is so hard to play with out

fasfawfs

[true ravine]

i dont see a reason to not use it if youre not playing tournaments

[vast oak]

shotguns

ig

is it

[true ravine]

wdym?

its easier to play with shotguns without it?

[vast oak]

u shoot shotguns slower

cuz of pull up time

from sprint

but idk if i can go with out it

[true ravine]

u probably can

but

[atomic path]

I mean I am practising it, that is why I found that out, just asking if there is some extra tasks for this

[true ravine]

this lil time to pull up makes no difference against pub players

[vast oak]

i dont play pubs

at all

xD

[true ravine]

what rank are u now?

[vast oak]

just running thru low ranks

took break

[true ravine]

unless youre masters+

[vast oak]

for few seasons

[true ravine]

it still making no difference

[vast oak]

it will higher ranks

i was using a keybind that makes me walk but it was feeling rlly un responsive

[true ravine]

cant help u if i dont know what youre doing wrong

all youre saying is, close fast strafes is your weakness

[true ravine]

just spam shift when u slide jump, etc

[vast oak]

slide jumpings not my issue

just small mechanical errors

and im venting here

[true ravine]

like, what im trying to say is, spam it to get the auto sprint feeling

[vast oak]

xD

[true ravine]

it will get easier

[vast oak]

if i dont hold it i cant run animation my heirloom properly

so i would just end up looking at it

[true ravine]

[vast oak]

xD

[true ravine]

fair enough

[atomic path]

ok, I will try to explain, so I can't really follow a fast, random strafing target very well, my tracking is not smooth enough , feels like stuttering when I try to track it, should I just practise more, or if I can do some other tasks to help with it, like was it because my hands are not stable enough or my eyes' reading ability is not good enough to follow the targets

[true ravine]

honestly, this shotgun thing makes no difference to me since i play mostly with smg and AR's loadout

so, auto sprint is more comfortable

[vast oak]

yea fair i just like shotguns

[vast oak]

just run lg56 smooth

playlist

[true ravine]

like,

[vast oak]

or like a few scens from it for a few days

[true ravine]

your answer is right in front of u

u know your mistakes

youre not smooth

practice smoothness

[vast oak]

what sense do u aim train with

for starters

[true ravine]

u cant stop predicting the target movement, practice reactivity

[atomic path]

true🤣

[vast oak]

compared to ingame if its not the same?

[devout tusk]

Fast strafes just takes time tbh

[atomic path]

kk got it

thanks, you all

[atomic path]

400*2.93

1172edpi

[true ravine]

start using cm/360

edpi makes no sense

[devout tusk]

Thats like 34cm

[atomic path]

35.5cm

360

[devout tusk]

Damn close

[atomic path]

too high?

[true ravine]

nah

its mid

[devout tusk]

No its fine

[true ravine]

its a good sens

[vast oak]

i found playing a higher sense in kvks helps my smootness

on my main sense

[atomic path]

I use to do like 50cm/360

feels like I have no arms

[vast oak]

i do like 43 cm

[true ravine]

maybe this is the reason u feel shaky with 35cm

[atomic path]

I do this before

🤣

[atomic path]

true, I use to play games more rely on flicking than tracking, apex needs more tracking so I rise my edpi

[true ravine]

try this smoothness training

fov 80 ow
multiply your sens 1.5x

KovaaKsDashingSkyblueSeason

do it up to 2x a day

[atomic path]

kk

[true ravine]

you'll feel a little less shaky

[ember wagon]

yo

how do you pause youtube or spotify while in game

is there a chrome extensuion or something

i hate being jump master and not able to pause my music without stalling

[true ravine]

dont play music

[ember wagon]

just inbetween games

[vast oak]

do u not have a pause button on ur keybored

also why after i pop a bat dose my heal go auto to syringe

i dont remember this

happening

[ember wagon]

your selected heal item

is a keybind

you have to hover over it for it to pick that or it does priority

you can set custom keybinds for bat

[dull falcon]

how to i learn to back off better i guess is the question cuz whenever i get in fights and then i reposition its always so bad
https://outplayed.tv/media/mLEBVE

[gentle mantle]

just tap s when pulling it out

[true ravine]

your decision was bad not the position

why would u heal your hp first if u have battery?

[dull falcon]

i dont know

[true ravine]

battery takes less time to pop

always, if u have fast heals for your shield

use it

if u pop a bat there

u could finish popping it faster and then trying to fight

also

u could try to escape to your teammate

you went to opposite side

so he couldnt help u

[dull falcon]

honestly i shoulda been more selfish and not care ab the bloodhound and i probably shoulda not peaked down

[true ravine]

also

youre playing ranked

dont fight inside the gas if youre not 3 stacking

if u cant finish the fight

or if your team is losing the fight

dont go inside the gas to fight

[spring patrol]

run into storm instead of holding a door against 3 people

[gentle mantle]

just play roller and dont worry about it

[alpine trail]

https://streamable.com/k7n34s

[gentle mantle]

clean

[echo inlet]

Apparently aim wasn't the main reason I suck at apex I don't know what to do when fighting against full teams I just want to take 1v1s and most of the time in plat lobbies no one takes that guess I'm officially a hard stuck solo platinum 3 player lmao

r5 or aim trainers didn't work for me now I'm looking for a brain trainer🤣

[frigid bramble]

soon as you got cracked i would have smoked under me, syringed in the smoke, then further away and reset. probably on the upper floor maybe

you were at too predictable of a spot and they were far enough away for you to run abit further so you could atleast pop a batt off n full heal

daymmme wtf? so basicaly 800dpi 1.5 n you make it look like 2.5? thats krazy😂 good shit brotha, love the playstyle

[frigid bramble]

imo well deciding to hold that door was silly, but in that situation if youre gonna smoke then run when they break the door well if you popped a bat youre dying to storm like 2 seconds after you run away. so in that specific situation, pop the medkit then pop batt or if t hey came to the door like they did pop the medkit, smoke under you, run to away n smoke again. goneskiesssss

ahahahhaaha yeah idk how in my eyes youd be moving around your mouse like krazy n tensing up so for me personally cause i havent learnt how to instantly relax my muscles on demand, if i play like that then my aims fucked😂 . well atleast when im fighting i cant play THAT fast 🤣

my aim will be shaking like im on crack my kuz

[quaint karma]

funny thing

a syringe takes as long as a bat

always heal shields first

unless you only have small shield heals and need to heal purple or something

but you got a medkit

[alpine trail]

it auto goes to next consum to heal whatever ur missin. u can just rehover on batt if needed

[vast oak]

yea idk i just dont remember it happening for some reason

brain threw that knowledge away

xc

[quaint karma]

🤨

[frigid bramble]

🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

[vague nexus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/973587295762538497/1048384298761322496/Apex_Legends_2022.12.02_-_21.28.57.07.DVR_2.mp4

eva 8 masters

[echo inlet]

You can spam inspect to remove pull up time

[vast oak]

Whaaa

Thats

Epic

I shall try

Later

[lusty vault]

Gm

[hallow fable]

gmgmgmgm

how wsa sleepa

[frigid sundial]

is the movement speed on the R5Reloaded server higher than normal?

[half bramble]

does anyone play below 110 fov? if so why?

[lusty vault]

103

dont like the fisheye feeling

of 110

[half bramble]

interesting, in the settings does it actually say 103 or 104?

[lusty vault]

settings will say 104

[half bramble]

interesting thank you!

kinda random but do u by chance know what cl_fovscale that is?

[little verge]

Yeah, I also run 103. Just like the slightly larger player models since the game has so many obscuring effects.

[half bramble]

thank you

[untold adder]

i play 106 when 110 makes me nauseous

[half bramble]

thank you

[naive peak]

Is it easier to aim close range or long range with guns like the wingman?

Or is it just always easier to track when they're up in your face?

[gentle mantle]

if they are close up its easier to track as you dont need to account for bullet velocity

[true ravine]

yep, but its better if u use tap strafe while you do bhop

i think they nerfed tap strafe a little bit, if u try 180 degrees it will feel sluggish

but 90 degrees still good

maybe youre losing the momentum

[lusty vault]

If anyone wants to play im down

[quaint karma]

when was tapstrafe supposed to have been nerfed

havent noticed a thing

[edgy crane]

tapstrafe hasnt been changed

controller tapstrafe is just way stronger

[true ravine]

they ''nerfed'' in season 13 if im not wrong

[quaint karma]

they didnt nerf a thing

it was in the playtest

by accident

[edgy crane]

they removed it for like a day

yeah

[quaint karma]

never made it to actual game

[true ravine]

idk, tap strafe feels sluggish on 180 to me now

[quaint karma]

i can do 300 degree tapstrafes

[edgy crane]

no with configs

[true ravine]

tapstrafe demon

[edgy crane]

on controller

you use configs for tapstrafing

crouch and jump at 0 velocity

[quaint karma]

idk i just slide

and i have W and jump bound to mousehweel up

so

https://streamable.com/w47lgw

yeah most pepole do that

should work the same

[steel karma]

ik this is a random question but has anyone in here solo queued all the way to diamond / master and if so how hard was it

i want to play ranked but my friends dont always want to (which is fine) and other than that i dont know of people who actively play the game all that much