ptb-discussion

[solar atlas]

I dont understand what all of u are on, she finally looks decent bro🥹

[old tartan]

Lethal Pursuer buffs Vecna 2's Gutted Supercom addon, right?

...that's a dumb question now that I think about it

[solar atlas]

I love nancys model rework

[daring vessel]

Barely, imo the base add-on still needs a buff.

[grave sparrow]

yes I want that

[grave sparrow]

bro she looks like holly downgraded

[old tartan]

opinions on the Vecna 2 build?

[manic fulcrum]

Sweet

Personally I would switch one of them with I’m all ears if your going for a chase build

[ripe bison]

comparison I saw the other day

Honestly whats weird about the new portrait render in particular is more her expression

[stoic crypt]

the never get value ahh build

[manic fulcrum]

Vecna lowkey op tho

All you need to do is use stealth build and ur good

[hot compass]

Anyone notice Nurse is bugged in 2v8? The few times I've played her, her camera is placed lower and I can't look up at all.

[stoic crypt]

he’s not op, i’m tired of hearing this

[stoic crypt]

he doesn’t need stealth when he’s already strong

he’s a A tier killer currently, he’s very beatable

S tier on small indoor maps

[ripe bison]

He is pretty insane if you know what you are doing

Not sure why youd need to run a stealth build tho

[tired spade]

he’s literally so op it’s crazy😭

[stoic crypt]

u don’t play dbd if u think he’s op

[tired spade]

actual propaganda people be tryna spread so he doesn’t get nerfed

[stoic crypt]

go against nurse and blight first, they don’t have counter lmao

[tired spade]

they’re also op what’s ur point😂

[stoic crypt]

u never have gone against ptb ghoul

it’s a guessing game from both the killer and survivor when it comes to countering vecna

[tired spade]

bro i’ve been playing since release and im currently iri 1 i play dbd

[stoic crypt]

lmao, it’s funny u think he’s op u can run him for like 2 mins if u just shift w and be unpredictable and fake pallets and vaults

[tired spade]

who in a dead by daylight discord doesn’t play dead by daylight

[stoic crypt]

bro said iridescent one like it means something 😭

[tired spade]

did u not see the comp dbd game with vecna ?

[stoic crypt]

everyone is iridescent one if they play the game, mfs compare it to like a master rank or something

[tired spade]

it means i played brodie not skill

rank use to be skill now it’s just play time

[stoic crypt]

he’s not op, shift w and fake pallets and vaults dude he’s 4.4

and his undergate ability is only good for traversal, it will barley ever get hits against good survivors

only thing that should prolly get touched is the cooldown on his power being increased

[tired spade]

every single comp player ive seen is getting dominated by ts

[ripe bison]

His power attack has basically no cooldown

[tired spade]

the cooldown on his power, shouldn’t be able to undergate cross map should have a timer that’s it

[ripe bison]

thats mainly the issue

[stoic crypt]

that’s the only thing that should get touched

[tired spade]

only things that need nerfs

his under gate being able to cross map with no drawbacks is not op???

[stoic crypt]

u think undergate should have a timer when it’s already a huge ass cooldown to get? are we deaduzz

[tired spade]

what other killer has zero drawback (cooldown/charges) on a ability like that

[ripe bison]

Hadn't considered the undergate's mobility strength tbh. Makes sense in retrospect

[stoic crypt]

blight

[tired spade]

helll yeah

[fickle crane]

Well, the drawback is the startup time to go down into the ground and the delay when you come out of the ground. In general, I don't think it's better for map traversal than Wraith's cloak

[ripe bison]

[tired spade]

he has charges brodie 🫩 do YOU play dbd

[stoic crypt]

still gets his power back quick as hell depending on how many charges he uses

[tired spade]

literally just a bad take, objectively bad take🫩

[stoic crypt]

the cooldown on vecnas power being like 2 seconds is the only thing that needs to be increased

[fickle crane]

Could I ask you to elaborate as to why?

[tired spade]

comparing wraith and him is crazy asl

[stoic crypt]

bro thinks vecna is op when he’s a shift w counter

[tired spade]

i wish there wasn’t no slow mode i can’t explain nun lmao

[stoic crypt]

don’t 3 gen urself and ur fine

depending on the map

[tired spade]

that goes for everyone literally 😭 bro the problem is he’s just as op as blight and nurse with better map traversal and way less skill needed

[ripe bison]

Honestly whats more concerning is the fact that a new killer has a single part of their toolkit just be a thing another killer's entire power is

[stoic crypt]

blight isn’t 4.4 bruh what, blight can counter shift w and vecna can’t 😭😭

[ripe bison]

He should be 4.4

[fickle crane]

I wouldn't necessarily say that. I think Wraith has better mobility and a better "attack out of power" than Vecna does.

Now, I think Vecna's M2 attack is good enough that even without Undergate he'd be better than Wraith, but I'm only comparing mobility

[tired spade]

how is the undergate worse than wraith bro 😭😭 one goes thru every breakable/ window in the game, gets a aoe attack, is faster more dangerous and one can body block windows.. if that was all he had in his kit it would be fine but then the rest of his powers just make ts overtuned terribly

[tired spade]

thank you i was just saying this

[craggy bay]

Is scavenger, stake out, built to last and change of plan a good build

[stoic crypt]

ask in game discussion channel

[tired spade]

change of plan is so mid🫩

[craggy bay]

Gotcha

[tired spade]

but the build seems cool 🙏🏽

[tired spade]

i’m not tapped in w dbd lingo what do “4.4” mean

[stoic crypt]

and ur saying he’s op without knowing this is crazy

[ripe bison]

The difference is that Wraith can immediately smack someone out of it and utilize it mid chase as an antiloop and what-not. First has it primarily as just a mobility tool. While the aoe CAN hit people it can be avoided in most cases (unless its an indoor map) by paying attention and running away.

[stoic crypt]

he’s slower than the average killer, he’s the same speed as nurse

[tired spade]

gang i don’t sit here and discuss dead by daylight i just play the game a disgusting amount

[ripe bison]

Nurse has a movement speed of 3.8

she needs an addon to move at 4.4

[stoic crypt]

oh hell naw

[ivory flame]

who thinks vecna is op. reply

[stoic crypt]

he’s the same speed as chucky

[ripe bison]

did you actually not know this?

[tired spade]

it’s not like i don’t know i use to main em it’s juss ones a mid killer and the other is S tier

[stoic crypt]

nah i didn’t know they changed this, i don’t play nurse so

[craggy bay]

I think it’s good in a few niche situations

[stoic crypt]

back in my days she used to be 4.4

[ripe bison]

Was change a looooooong time ago

Only way to make her 4.4 is to run an irri addon which limits her to only one blink charge

[fickle crane]

There's a few things. I would like to clarify however, I only specified Undergate is worse for mobility.

1. Wraith can go into his stealth form while moving, and his transition in and out of his stealth form is much faster. When I was playing Vecna, I often found I didn't want to use my Undergate to catch up to survivors because of how long it took to go down into the ground, and how long it took to come out afterwards.

2. While the Undergate does have an AoE attack, it is extremely difficult to hit out in the open when the survivor sees it coming. The windup is so long and you're slowed so much during it that it's often difficult to actually get the hit. It's more useful in its ability to zone survivors, or catching them off guard, but all killers get a free hit when you catch someone off guard. Compare to Wraith, who can go right behind someone and uncloak to hit someone.

3. Vecna's Undergate has a really long cooldown. I believe it's 35 seconds. Wraith can go in and out whenever he wants. Additionally, Vecna cannot break pallets, walls, or generators while in Undergate. Wraith can. Even though Vecna can go under pallets, it usually doesn't actually result in hits. As for windows, Wraith can still cross them, albeit a little slower.

I guess a simple way of thinking about it is this. If Vecna's only power was the Undergate, do you think he would be stronger than Wraith? I personally don't think so. Undergate is nice, but it's supplementary, not the main attraction of his power.

[tired spade]

duh thats why i just said if it was the ONLY thing in his kit like wraith it would be fine it’s overtuned because u have the ability with the broken ass m2🫩

have we all not seen comp players go against vecna and get dominated?? ts is busted asl and deserved whatever nerfs is coming his way

[fickle crane]

I may be stupid, but what do you mean by ts and asl in this context?

[ripe bison]

He just needs tweeks to not be stupid

Its not as though this killer is the most insane thing imaginable that is breaking down the world as we know it and will never not do that

In a PTB and has basic shit that needs to be applied before live

[tired spade]

this shi, as hell

[fickle crane]

Oh I see. I was confused because like "this is busted... American Sign Language?"

[tired spade]

idk how we’re saying it’s easy to dodge his m2’s anyways when competitive dead by daylight players couldn’t do it

[fickle crane]

Could I ask you to send me a video or link? I'd like to see how players more experienced than me play as and against Vecna.

[ripe bison]

oof

[fickle crane]

Ah. DM it to me then?

[tired spade]

ahh i can’t in here im bouta dm u

[ripe bison]

post it here after you ge tit

[fickle crane]

Thank you

Wait can I post it bc of my perms?

[ripe bison]

yeah

[fickle crane]

https://youtu.be/LG-wkbk9GnE?si=HAUVm5DCie8ZPlqY

Hooray

[ripe bison]

ugh this is why I dont watch videos like this

obnoxious clickbait and the odds of it being ragebait

why does nearly every youtuber have to be like this

[tired spade]

instant cooldown is so crazy😭😭 if u dodge one hes juss gonna redo it😭😭

[ripe bison]

first moment was pretty funny. Dude just stood there

The survivor I mean.

[stoic crypt]

he slowdowns when doing, keep running forward

[tired spade]

there nun u could do but run as far as u can

god pallets are useless

[stoic crypt]

and if u have a exhaustion ur going to gain mega distance

[ripe bison]

reminds me, the delay before teh attack hits is very short

[stoic crypt]

if he commits to the chase, he will prolly lose the game if ur teammates are on gens

[tired spade]

wayyy to short

[granite furnace]

wait did they remove the obsession chance increase from object

[ripe bison]

Its not like Pyramid Head's where there is a noticable delay before it will hit you

[stoic crypt]

not true at all predrop it and keep running he doesn’t have a scamper or vault like ghoul bruh

[tired spade]

he don’t really gotta commit when he could hit u from 10 meters away and juss spam ts

[stoic crypt]

how can he spam it if u predrop a pallet and keep running bruh

ur acting like his range is the equivalent to huntress bruh

he’s forced to break the pallet if he wants to keep chasing u

[ripe bison]

Something Ive noticed about this clip is that these guys clearly arent familiar with how the killer works much

at the time of the clip

[stoic crypt]

propaganda at its finest, first impressions of a killer while ur figuring out the counter play as the game starts 💀

[tired spade]

he could kinda just walk past it and trust u dont wanna stay at no loop with him

[fickle crane]

Yeah I'm watching the video and they're generally approaching it how they would a normal killer. If you go down to 3:24, the person is looping the Vecna as they might against a regular killer, but let's say the killer was Nurse instead. The survivors would likely approach the situation differently.

[ripe bison]

regardless it does put forward the simple fact there theres little delay to attempt to dodge a ranged attack and the short cooldown

[stoic crypt]

how can he just walk past a god pallet

i’m talking specifically about god pallets where ur forced to break it or go back

[tired spade]

if u 50/50 him he gets free hits

his m2 ignores god pallets

at least nurse has charges or takes skill

[wanton coral]

i just realized i havent seen a new map for the chapter, are we getting one and its part of the official release or are we not getting one?

[ripe bison]

reminds me

[tired spade]

she has charges and cooldown he has like a 1 second cooldown lmao

[ripe bison]

Its really funny how comp players seem to abuse ping crap

as if that is something you should be doing

[tired spade]

aye bro comp gotta do what comp gotta do lmaoo they do it in every game dbd is no different

that is funny tho

[ripe bison]

Fucking with your internet for an unfare advantage?

Thats nto a tech thats practically cheating

[tired spade]

u mean lagswitching or something?

[stoic crypt]

ur not understanding what im saying ur forced to break the pallet to keep chasing or just leave chase

[tired spade]

cause whatever ur talking about is done in every other competitve game ever

[ripe bison]

yeah

Im just whining off topic though anyway

[tired spade]

what god pallet can vecna not use to his advantage

maybe u know about a god pallet that i dont know about

[fluid fern]

what are you talking about

Im not understanding this conversation

[ripe bison]

Dude is trying to emphasize how absurdly broken and S tier the new killer is in the PTB even though its been established that it's not difficult to fix

[fluid fern]

I mean if you're getting 2 tapped or M2'd at vaults and pallets its your fault

[tired spade]

should mention that theres someone arguing against me

[ripe bison]

Thats fair

[fluid fern]

but if you wanna say his miss cooldown is too short, yeah everyone agrees

[ripe bison]

Short cooldown and short windup

[fluid fern]

personally Id rather play against ST Vecna than a lot of other killers

[tired spade]

hes not op

[ripe bison]

Windup as in like, after you release the attack there isn't much delay before it pops up

[tired spade]

just coming in talking for no reason

fuck are you even talking for no one was talking to u

[fickle crane]

It's a public server

[tired spade]

useless dialogue

[ripe bison]

Im confused

[tired spade]

im saying cause he just butted in like im talking for no reason but theres someone thats disagreeing with the obvious and this guy apparently knows all

like wtf kinda shi is that to just pop in like u know what ur talking about

[ripe bison]

[tired spade]

actual useless dialogue

[ripe bison]

dialgoue

[tired spade]

aye ima catch yall tho gn everyone

[fickle crane]

IDK I think if someone says something a server and someone else wants to join, they can. If they wanted a private chat, they'd go to DMs. It's not like any of us have any special authority or knowledge anyways

[stoic crypt]

god pallet that u are forced to break to get to the other side, im not talking about a god pallet at like shack, im talking specifically about pallets u have to destroy to get to the other side, people like ghoul and nurse can go over it

[fluid fern]

nihilistic posts like this literally contribute nothing to the covnersation

[ripe bison]

dude just left and youre arguing with him still

[stoic crypt]

i was doing something sorry i can’t reply every 2 seconds, he can reply when he can

[ripe bison]

[daring vessel]

Is Secret Project + Retribution + Plaything + Pain Resonance a good build for Vecna?

Or should I swap Hex: Retribution out for Floods of Rage.

[ripe bison]

if you want to go all in on totem crap run pentimento

[wanton coral]

is it normal for the 2v8 killer timer to go from 8 minutes to a longer time after ive played a survivor match?

[wanton pilot]

anyone wanna play the PTB with me after?

[daring vessel]

Dude what is going on, I'm putting my Vecna attack RIGHT ON TOP OF SURVIVORS and it still misses and takes a thousand years to activate, idk if the PTB is lagging or what but it feels awful to play today.

[vagrant forum]

the M2 attack has an anti-camp sorta feature built in, if it is used on someone on hook/unhooking, it will delay activation. In my experience it feels as if that effect lingers around the hook location for a few moments after unhooking

and his transversal attack, that actually does take 1000 years to activate, i can rarely land it

[daring vessel]

I never use it near hooks.

I'm not talking about the traversal attack either.

I can never land his traversal attack either.

[echo dune]

@daring vessel His m2 is a little hard to hit, you have to predict survivoirs pathing to be able to hit it effectively i can give you a couple videos of comp players playing him and you can get an idea of how to use him from there

[daring vessel]

Sure.

I'm suprised that even on the PTB survivors are extremely attention hungry to me getting a 3k and trying to get me to come see them get hatch when their whole team died and they're on last hook.

This weird ass Nancy.

[echo dune]

Its human psyche to feel in control a little hence the tbagging at gates and hatches,

[echo dune]

search up comp dbd vecna on youtube

[daring vessel]

I've literally been sitting in the basement for 10 minutes this person is insane.

[echo dune]

yk they got a sad life if they are still sitting there

[celest hare]

-# Whenever I'm down because I feel like I have no life I just* remember comp DBD exists

[granite furnace]

the hatch should automatically close after 120 seconds

to prevent shit like this

[daring vessel]

I agree.

[granite furnace]

like why do you want me to see you win that badly

[daring vessel]

It should automatically close after 2 or 3 minutes.

[celest hare]

Not even a win LMAO*

A pity escape

[daring vessel]

Exactly like I killed your whole team and you're death hook, what's there to celebrate?

[granite furnace]

the hatch is the dbd equivalent of a participation trophy

[celest hare]

DBD players are so pathetic that they do it in hopes that you believe it means something, of course nobody does so they just look extremely stupid

[granite furnace]

I know it makes for some good "final girl" esque moments but more often than that it creates situation where players will stop helping their team in hopes of getting hatch

[celest hare]

The whole hatch thing 100% needs a rework

[daring vessel]

If I abandon does it automatically sacrifice them since they haven't done a generator in like 20 mins?

[celest hare]

There's EGC which is perfect and amazing and chef's kiss lmao then there's that pos game mechanic that only exists because of old hatch

[celest hare]

As in maybe stuff not involving the hatch either, like after a while the survivor gets revealed, or EGC immediately starts with hatch but a bit longer or something idek

[daring vessel]

It's been so long it's given me the option to abandon.

[granite furnace]

Genuinely all they need to do is make the hatch close after 2 or 3 minutes it's really that simple.

[celest hare]

And make EGC start then true

[granite furnace]

Alternatively, add a perk that makes the hatch close for 20 seconds if a survivor stands on it for too long

[celest hare]

Isn't EGC 2 minutes but 4 slowed down?

[granite furnace]

it would be too funny

[daring vessel]

I just abandoned anyway because I get the last laugh, they don't escape/get hatch, and I don't watch them leave.

[celest hare]

Hatch should auto close in 2 minutes and then also trigger EGC like usual

[granite furnace]

Yup

[celest hare]

Yeah 👏 would be nice

[granite furnace]

2 minutes is plenty of time to find it

so not being able to shouldn't be an issue

[celest hare]

Ye and that + the 2 minutes of egc if the survivor isn't slugged, which is most likely, it lines up with the 4 minutes egc if it's slowed down usually lol yknow

[celest hare]

Players should be able to abandon in a slugging for the 4k situation

[daring vessel]

Why can this killer use his vine attack IMMEDIATELY after coming out of the undergate and it lands right on top of me, entirely unavoidable?

[celest hare]

I mean like it's as avoidable as any other vine attack but it's ridiculous you're still in range when that happens lmfao

Inarguably needs a longer CD after undergate

The one change not a single person can disagree with is the undergate mode needs a small range lullaby when its moving

[celest hare]

Also the perspective on it is ngl insane, it's like Krasue's headform but what worse? Why tf does this killer have that. Wtf are BHVR doing

I'd make posts about it but they do NOT listen to them

And then they get deleted after the PTB 😐

[echo dune]

lol what? are youa ctually saying you are having trouble escaping his undergate attack?

[celest hare]

Lullaby... what

Also still won't have anyone convince me that the insane Vecnas don't always hit their undergate attacks in their current state

[south saddle]

after experiencing undergate attack the first time and taking a hit I never got hit by it again

[celest hare]

I want to see someone who's clearly using it to the best of its ability say otherwise

[echo dune]

Even comp players dont hit the undergate attack consistently? watch any comp there is no consistent hit and the upside down movement is so loud you can hear it coming so idk what the ever living hell you talking about

[south saddle]

can't relate to getting hit by it

[celest hare]

No excuse for no lullaby

[south saddle]

eyes usually work

[celest hare]

You're still in range for an immediate vine attack if you're not injured by it (the speed boost after)

[south saddle]

what if I dodge it

[celest hare]

The point is if you don't

[echo dune]

Bro some of these people in the server just want things nerfed just because they cant counter it

[south saddle]

can't relate

[celest hare]

Yknow it's not that visible right lmfao are we deadass saying it shouldn't have a lullaby when Victor and drac's bat form lullaby exists

[south saddle]

dracula is a mapwide teleport

[celest hare]

I'm sorry you're so cringy holy, you don't have to bring 'skill issue' into everything you disagree with 😭

[south saddle]

victor is almost a free injury or down when he finds you

[celest hare]

Cool, for accessibility's sake it needs a lullaby

[south saddle]

can't relate, I just see him coming and dodge

[echo dune]

I never said its a skill issue I am saying you need to learn counterplay, if you litreally just bait him into doing it early. hell if he begins to come up with you on top of him you can easily get out of its range

[celest hare]

Good for you, sometimes you can't

[south saddle]

sometimes any killer gets a hit

[celest hare]

huh

[celest hare]

Insane Vecnas do not seem to miss it at all

[south saddle]

I watched KL miss multiple times in a row, then landed a few in a row after that

[celest hare]

I don't believe some of you have gone against insane Vecnas

[echo dune]

Hens, Otz and others even they dont hit in consistently

[south saddle]

also played vs d3ad and he couldn't down me at all until everyone else was dead

[celest hare]

Otz is mid as hell?

[echo dune]

Hens?

[celest hare]

Not that mid but like Otz is just a super casual player no?

[south saddle]

I do agree some vine attacks will be free but others won't esp vs haste

but what decent killer doesn't have guaranteed hits sometimes

[echo dune]

Bro the homie is really the manifestation of
" Cant learn counterplay must need nerf "

[echo dune]

true

[celest hare]

Bro the homie is really the manifestation of
" Valid complaints about a killer I can't see is overtuned because I've only gone against dog shit to mid ones means he must have a skill issue "

[south saddle]

vecna also takes forever to down someone depending on kit and situation

[celest hare]

That's not an excuse for some aspects being way overtuned though. I'm just gonna wait to see how he launches

[south saddle]

some teams will gen rush so hard that one down will screw you

[echo dune]

exactly people are acting like its a 100% hit rate

[celest hare]

He's piss easy to play and hit the undergate attack against survivors dodging and trying to predict the best they can

[south saddle]

iirc ping affects undergate a lot

I'm curious how it is in other settings

[echo dune]

if you ping is high its going to be a hit, simple as that

[south saddle]

but I remember going underground vs him and doing a gen under a hole, I could barely see undergate's mist before he was already on the ground when he fell through

so one change I want is to more easily see the mist when he's airborne

[echo dune]

Me too

[celest hare]

Which is stupid

[echo dune]

are you saying a killer should be nerfed because your ping is high? do you know how dumb you sound rn?

[celest hare]

It's goofy how the vine attack lingers but only for a tiny bit it's off putting

[celest hare]

Am I saying it's stupid an attack will hit no matter what if you have slight lag? Yes I am 😱

[echo dune]

You cant blame a killer because of your internet like what?

[celest hare]

You disagree with this? At what ping do you think against insane Vecnas being hit is unavoidable

[echo dune]

I disagree with the idea that ones ping should be factored into balancing

His attacks does need a slighter cooldown nerf but other than that he is balanced

[celest hare]

'If you don't have utterly perfect ping it's okay for an attack that can down and grant a super powerful antiloop power to be entirely unavoidable'

[echo dune]

firstly his antiloop needs to be earned, and his undergate attack is insanely weak so if you are considering that as an anti loop then my friend that veterans role is wasted

[celest hare]

The fuck LMAO grants access to a if there was a role for reading comprehension skills THAT would be wasted on you

[celest hare]

Y'know maybe I do 🤔 not as bad as you apparently, but I missed a keyword lmfao "high"

[stoic crypt]

i wouldn’t call someone who has guides that are 10 hours long casual

[celest hare]

What do you call a bit above casual because I wouldn't say any more than that

[stoic crypt]

he’s def not casual bro

he plays the game a lot

[gusty jewel]

Is it taking so long to load in as a killer?? In ptb

[celest hare]

But he's just not as good as people who seem to want to be (as good as they are) with similar hours, plus he tries hard to 'play nice' all the time

It feels wrong calling him whatever you'd call Hens and stuff

[stoic crypt]

yeah i hate that he does that too but i think it’s prolly cuz he’s a bhvr partner

tru3talent has good takes and is fairly good at the game

[celest hare]

Does he? 💀 didn't he say swfs should take longer on gens

Also I know he's a pretty shitty person but that's probably pretty common lmao

[stoic crypt]

that’s one of the bad takes

scott jund also has fairly good takes that i agree with

[celest hare]

Samee haven't seen any I don't yet

I swear people's 'takes' are either dogshit, only for themselves, not good for the health of the game stuff, or logical, in everyone's best interest, good for the health of the game stuff, there's very little split evenish lol

Love how Hens can say syringes need a nerf and there'll STILL be as big of a backlash or whatever as there was, 99% of dbd players don't know shit about the game it's painful

Sometimes I think of the community and it makes a little more sense why BHVR does such baffling stuff lmao
"Nobody asked for this" wellllll 🤔

[stoic crypt]

i like hens for the most part

comp dbd will always been goofy to me tho

[stoic oasis]

No way, that shit is hilarious. You cannot watch KnightLight nearly split his desk in half when he loads into a solo queue with a No Mither user and not find it hilarious

[ripe bison]

His videos suck

But he is cool.

[ripe bison]

Everything Ive heard and seen of KnightLight is that he is the posterboy if sweaty assholes in dbd

[stoic oasis]

I mean.. yes? But he’s funny as fuck. He plays the highest MMR in the game, I really don’t care if he’s an asshole to 5000 hour killer mains

[ripe bison]

Fair

[stoic oasis]

There are tons of streamers out there of whom sit around in low MMR and bully new killers all day. Multi thousand hour killers don’t mind a bit of trash talk or toxic play

[stoic crypt]

the one dude on tik tok and youtube shorts who runs meg and 360s baby killers

lame ash, the most brainless content

[stoic oasis]

They fucking suck. There are tons of huge streamers that run four man bully squads and purposefully drop their MMR so they can ruin the game for baby killers

[ripe bison]

Didnt some creator accuse others or major creators of smurfing or something not long ago

Ive heard about it but thats all

[celest hare]

Same and same about comp dbd 🥀

[digital forge]

How much longer is the PTB up for?? Idk if its worth the download time

oh nvm its only like a 13 minute wait, I'm doing it

[stoic oasis]

Until the 13th

[fickle crane]

I'm not ready to say goodbye for two weeks

[stoic oasis]

Hens does a lot of exposés on people like that

[stoic oasis]

Loving Dustin that much?

[stoic crypt]

it was tru3

he claimed multiple people smurf to bully baby killers for content

like ayrun and shit, which i lowkey believe, it wouldn’t surprise me

[echo dune]

Lovin vecna fr fr

[stoic oasis]

Ayrun for sure does. If you watch any of his gameplay and connect the hours, it doesn’t make any sense. He plays against the dumbest, most baby killers you will ever come across

Whenever he is invited to comp he is absolute ass and gets shit on mercilessly

[echo dune]

Isnt ayrun that guy who had that whole drama with quietkillz or was that skermz?

[stoic oasis]

Probably both. They both suck ass in comp yet have 10k+ hours and act like they’re the best players to ever touch the game in their videos

Skermz got shit on by QuietKills playing perkless Trapper and had a temper tantrum though

Meanwhile Epi shits on QuietKills without any issue

And Epi doesn’t claim to be anything special, unlike Skermz that acts like he’s a god

[echo dune]

Oh yeah those dudes were going on quietkills for no reason like they all played stupid and started messing about after they did 3 gens

[ripe bison]

Never watched QuietKills but based on video titles and thumbnails alone, losing to an asshole like that running perkless trapper must be rough lol

Hes that trapper main that "owns" "toxic survivors" or whatever right?

[echo dune]

he is actually pretty funny and gives rather non biased opinions so he is pretty fun to watch

[ripe bison]

His video titles amd thumbnails give the exact opposite impression

Always avoided em for that

[echo dune]

He usually acts like that to be funny and imo its pretty fun to watch him just go full trapper mode you should look at the match with skermz and swf he had

[ripe bison]

I do play trapper a ton. Should be fun watching someone better than me kick ass I suppose

[stoic oasis]

I agree completely. Of all the DBD creators, he is one of the more genuine ones that plays for the fun of the game, rather than playing to be toxic and shitting on newbies

[ripe bison]

Honestly most dbd youtuber thumbnails make me want to bash my head

Cause theyre all either mimicing hens or jrm, and are either obnoxiously clickbaity or just look like shit

[fickle crane]

That's kinda one of the things I really like about Scott Jund. Like regardless of how much you agree with him, I really do like his "I'm going to keep it real" kind of vibe he has going on, if that makes sense? Like I don't get the same sense he's performing in the same way a couple others do

[ripe bison]

Scott is one of the like two content creators who just feels like a guy giving an opinion or talking in my experience.

Other being a former editor of his I think?

I mean Otz does too but most of his content is stream compilations or stream compilations disguised as video essays, and a lot of people take him like hes law.

His mods also banned be from his discord for dumb reasons >:(

[stoic oasis]

Woooow, calling people the n word in Otz’s Discord server?

The only thing I dislike about Otz is that he takes ten hours to explain anything

[ripe bison]

I know youre joking but on his server you can get strikes for violating the server's vague rules. Like promoting toxicity or calling Victor a baby (latter was not on the rules but I got a strike for it anyway)

[fickle crane]

Yeah that's the thing. Like I've always thought Scott was really stubborn but that just feels like it's because he's a stubborn person. I've never once doubted his authenticity

[stoic oasis]

Calling Victor a baby? As in the fucking child that pops out of Charlotte?

[ripe bison]

His podcast where its just him and two or three other creators talking is amazing and needs more content

[fickle crane]

I need to get around to watching that

[ripe bison]

No Victor is a grown adult and Behavior does NOT includr adults as killers or characters within their game. Discussion of stomping in a baby will not be tolerated by Behavior or any content creator.

[stoic oasis]

Well thank you very much for deterring me from ever interacting with the man-children that are Otz’s mods LOL

[ripe bison]

I was more joking about the general drama surrounding victor

Behavior did NOT like people calling Victor a baby or making jokes about kicking the baby

[stoic oasis]

I know LOL. I was dying laughing reading your message

[ripe bison]

Ic

[stoic oasis]

I wasn’t planning on joining his Discord server in the first place, but any inkling of possibility is now gone

Sounds like a bunch of fucking sensitive losers over there

Stereotypical Discord mods that they make all those GIFs about

[void pasture]

I wonder if eyes of Belmont applies to the aura reading given to your teammates with we see you. I mean I’d assume it applies to you seeing the aura, but I wonder if your teammates get the extra 3 seconds even if they aren’t running it.

Probably not

[ripe bison]

Worth testing either way

[astral cipher]

Worth mentioning that Cote did actually confirm that they can do underaged killers

Or making them part of killer’s power

It’s just that obviously it implies that those characters can’t be harmed or killed, which is what happening to Victor

[drowsy mortar]

why dustin as big as the killers

[astral cipher]

He’s using the same male model skeleton all other male characters are using

[stoic oasis]

He hit a growth spurt

[astral cipher]

Plus Aestri

[stoic oasis]

You know how the Entity chooses favourites and gifts them? He gifted Dustin puberty

[astral cipher]

He

[stoic oasis]

I meannnn. It? LOL

[astral cipher]

No it’s just funny because I’ve never seen anyone refer to entity as him

[stoic oasis]

I just imagine him as some cool guy, you know?

[astral cipher]

It’s usually either it or she

No idea why but it’s kinda stuck with the community

[stoic oasis]

I honestly don’t even know why I used he 🤣. Thinking about it, I’d say it’s more of an it

[astral cipher]

Canonically it is it

[stoic oasis]

But you never know, the Entity could be a he, or a she

[astral cipher]

[uneven bridge]

pretty sure it's because spiders just have an association with being female

most spider deities, legends, and mythological figures are female, e.x. arachne

[split fractal]

I have a question why is there a PTB?

[fickle crane]

I imagine both because it helps BHVR to get feedback on a design to make iterations on it, and also partially to generate hype in anticipation of the actual release

[astral cipher]

That’s a good point

[astral cipher]

Don’t most live service games have their own version of PTB nowadays?

[fickle crane]

I imagine a lot do yeah. It makes sense. Players are pretty good at figuring out why a proposed change might not work

[celest hare]

What's funny is I thought the same thing, like it's passable cause he's aged up a bit, but his actor has a condition that pretty much would make this not possible and Dustin has the same thing (I heard this anyway and it makes enough sense to not doubt it, should google it lol)

So BHVR's laziness is lowkey kinda 😬 , 100% should've put the effort in. I didn't realise he's shorter in the lobby though, never realised characters are animated(?) to be shorter/taller in the lobby than they actually are in matches

[flint oyster]

in french text involving dbd the entity is referred to using feminine pronouns

[astral cipher]

Isn’t that because French has gendered nouns lol

[celest hare]

Is it a mistranslation or intentional lol

For the language did they have to pick one or the other so they went with feminine

[astral cipher]

What?

[celest hare]

Did they mean to give it 'gendered nouns' or 'feminine pronouns'

Or did they just translate it lazily

[astral cipher]

Translate what

[celest hare]

Any 'gendered nouns' or 'feminine pronouns' lmao

[astral cipher]

Gendered nouns is just a concept that exists within certain languages

[celest hare]

I know, did they mean for it to be feminine

[astral cipher]

Who

[celest hare]

Whoever tf translated it bro idfk 😭

[astral cipher]

The French?

What translation are we talking about

[celest hare]

The entity

Feminine pronouns, can this slowdown eat shit and die it's killing me

[astral cipher]

Who said anything about translated texts

[celest hare]

... it in french 🙏 I doubt it's a mistake

[astral cipher]

Ethan are you familiar with concept of gendered words in the first place

[celest hare]

DBD is primarily English

[celest hare]

Yes, holy fuck, did they mean to use FEMININE pronouns lmaoo

Or was it what the translator spewed out

[astral cipher]

By all accounts the translation should be correct

[celest hare]

How is it that complicated to understand what I'm saying holyy, yeah what I thought ty

[astral cipher]

If there was a translation in the first place, for all we know the lore could’ve been written in English

[celest hare]

I assumed it's written in English?

[astral cipher]

We don’t know

[celest hare]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-rage-silly-cat-bald-head-bald-cat-gif-14874789195890697183

[flint oyster]

i mean

bhvr is a canadian company iirc they have a connection to french so i would assume they had very specific input on the french translation

[celest hare]

I just had everyone glaze me in a 2v8 postmatch 😭

[celest hare]

I thought maybe it was a forced thing

Oh and in English too, interesting

[celest hare]

Oh right I forgot about that lmao

[indigo quartz]

NERF THE FIRST IF YOU SEE RAI_U SAY HI

GIVE HIM KANEKI TOKENS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[celest hare]

Self absorbed anon nurse thought we were talking about them, they're not that guy

[echo dune]

I have only seen in this entire ptb only like 5-6 people and only them saying he is broken others not so much so i am fairly certain that its such a very niche opinion that he is broken

[indigo quartz]

who?

[echo dune]

you and some guy named snail and a couple more other than that most dont complain about him 24/7 just one complaint which is justified the cooldown being a little too short

[indigo quartz]

asked

was ingame meant to send that while u were typing

[echo dune]

sure!

[celest hare]

[indigo quartz]

gottem

btw i have about a 60% wr vs this killer with several 4 to 5 gen chases

that literally doesn't mean i dont feel like i'm having to put forth 100% of my brain power to not get gimmicked meanwhile buddy is just throwing out free circles that i cannot see with little repercussion cuz there's no token system

[celest hare]

🙏 thanks for having a brain

[indigo quartz]

that's stupid and ridiculous for what's supposed to be a for fun party game

<3

[astral cipher]

It’s fun to dodge circles

[celest hare]

The amount of times people forget fun's importance in killers lmao. Killer could be designed so that one survivor immediately dies of a heart attack but they're weaker to balance it out, and some people would still say it's fine because it's balanced

[indigo quartz]

i laughed 10/10 example

bro's actually right this shit just ain't fun to play against

[celest hare]

People defending old tombstone lol but god forbid you bring it up, you suffer from MAJOR skill issue and small dick if that happens

[indigo quartz]

i have more fun weaving and dodging kaneki than this shit

[celest hare]

My issue is I'm not even sure how to balance parts

[indigo quartz]

just add token's man its a practical fix for most spammy powers

[celest hare]

Wait yeah true

[indigo quartz]

if bro just had to do slightly more thinking or offer me a bigger window of punishment for properly dodging

i wouldnt give a shit about the strength of his m2

[celest hare]

I can see it being tokens based making it have better design, doubt they'll do it though

[indigo quartz]

it's the fact that its so strong with little consequence just to throw out

if you dont get the hit okay u probably just spooked that survivor just wait 2 secs and fire off another one!!

[celest hare]

I've seen plenty say that he is HARD punished for missing lmao

[indigo quartz]

you hit it obviously that's the best reward

bro if ur on an indoor map it's insufferable

if you have space sure you can keep holding w but the moment you hit a corner of the map it's usually ogre

and i still havent mentioned accidentally passing the killer off onto teammates doing objs

[celest hare]

Maps aren't designed for his type of power either there's plenty where you can get walked down pretty quick to edges lmao

S m a l l

[indigo quartz]

cuz again his antiloop makes containing him a massive pain/issue

[indigo quartz]

yesssssssssssss this was my entire last match more or less

i just kept getting ran into map edges i held chase for 5 gens

but i literally noticed that was a reoccuring theme of that match and several others

[celest hare]

Literally LOL loop temu Vecna too long = edge map

[indigo quartz]

i think i need to record my matches so these non believers can actually see

it continuously happens if u can loop

and that's not okay it's literally nurse 2.0 with slightly less strength

not even blight can push me this hard to edge map consistenly

[celest hare]

Obviously you're supposed to stun and dumb tech the Vecna with lithe to un-edge yourself smh, idiot survivor main

Y'know a killer's overtuned or whatever when the best counterplay is pray they're not good at the character lmao

[indigo quartz]

u right bro

mft + dh dead combo i need to get with the times

[celest hare]

(Basically just nurse comes to mind with that)

[indigo quartz]

i like you chap

i wish i could give you a +1

[celest hare]

loll I can't react so have this

[indigo quartz]

idk why people think a killer's only weakness being people not being strong at it is okay

this is literally krause all over again

[celest hare]

Oh god that was not fun lmaoo

[indigo quartz]

bro can easily go hard on slugging, he can camp pretty well, has antiloop, and doesn't give any shits about pallets or windows

but hey i'm bad and dont know what i'm doing being a 63% escape rate survivor on live

[celest hare]

Haven't seen anyone mention his insane undergate perspective either

[indigo quartz]

oh you mean how he goes 3rd person as well

and also giving him ez opportunity to reclose that same gap

you worked so hard to achieve? and then can instantly fire off a m2 after coming out

xdddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

token's literally help remedy this entire thing mang i dont get it

[celest hare]

I swear it's even higher up than Krasue's head form which is already insane

[celest hare]

Lmao made even easier with add-on(s?)

[celest hare]

On many maps you can see EVERYTHING istg

[indigo quartz]

bro gets it

hex thick opinion clearly does not xddd

[weak jay]

is already known if they'll fix Nancy appearance?

[celest hare]

I think it's amazing but I wouldn't mind actual further improvements

[celest hare]

'PTB character only needs 1 change' ... 🤨

[indigo quartz]

haha yeah imagine if hunty just never had to reload bro!!!

[brazen gulch]

guys does the 2v8 queue tme just not change

[celest hare]

The constant power creep-y stuff is pretty funny, it's unavoidable but lol

[celest hare]

Uhh like the ETA it says? Is it not changing for you

[brazen gulch]

yeah

it was 21 minutes, its still 21 after 30 mins

[celest hare]

One change nobody can argue with and yet somehow some people still disagree, ||you can guess who,|| is that undergate mode needs a lullaby with a fair range, at least when it's moving (only change would be its shows up with the visible heartbeat accessibility setting). It should happen if not because Victor has it and Dracula's bat form has it (and it's most comparable to), then at least for accessibility

[celest hare]

Yeah maybe give up oof, maybe report that as well

[indigo quartz]

amazing his power can even cause dh to bug out

[shy badge]

that's been happening to me for the past few days

[indigo quartz]

i dh'd his m2 bs on 2nd state and somehow didnt get my dh proc and i got caught in a mori without ever taking damage

fun killer yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[indigo quartz]

i think he needs a muted/lullaby radius

[celest hare]

Exactly, just like drac (not range wise, range wise much smaller)

[celest hare]

Oof... 💀 Maybe try reporting or seeing about it

[indigo quartz]

where do you report ptb bugs

[reef sedge]

#bug-reports, make sure if there is a version question to put the PTB version.

[celest hare]

OMG RIGHT IT'S EASIER NOW

It was inexcusably dogshit before

[indigo quartz]

ty

[naive tree]

I thought he maintained his terror radius when he went under, crazy that he doesnt

[celest hare]

Yeah 😐 only excusable if they gave it a lullaby at least when moving

[naive tree]

It 100% should get a lullaby

speaking of which remove sadakos lullaby

[celest hare]

Random af but seeing this gif listening to Clap Your Hands by Sia just now made me snort so loud omfg

[celest hare]

Maybe make it smaller but isn't it very fair? You can barely see her when she's demanifested 😭

[naive tree]

Wraith

Wraith is barely visible until he's 6 meters away from a survivor, but he's fully stealthed, moving over 40% faster then sadako

[celest hare]

For me he's very visible and easier to track but yeah idk

I feel like maybe reducing its radius would be fair because there's still the sound that plays and it'd help with accessibility but irdk, you're probably right

[celest hare]

Ocean waves sound I think

Oh wait that is the lullaby lmao

You mean don't give her undetectable when demanifested but remove the lullaby?

[naive tree]

She is undetectable, she also just has a lullaby

[celest hare]

Anyways I think whatever you want out of her is probably fair just wouldn't/don't really know
-# I should sleep my eyes 🔥

[naive tree]

She's supposed to have stealth character but for some reason is the only one with a radius of here I am bitches

[celest hare]

Ye so removing the lullaby would give her free undetectable AND make her really hard to see/track, and she only takes like a second to be able to attack (right)? Maybe that's fair but idkk

But yeah at the very least the radius is probably too big, I've noticed that

[cunning kelp]

They lowk need to nerf the shadow class but only for chucky

[tender flame]

how do i dodge vecna? what's the reaction time to it?

it feels sub 200 ms wtf

[shy badge]

you don't dodge vecna you just let it happen

[tender flame]

fym by dat

[shy badge]

there's nothing you can do, you just let it happen

[tender flame]

im serious

[shy badge]

yeah, so am i

[autumn mirage]

I just realize Still sight now is worthless since Extrasensory Elven perk is just better in every way 💀

[fallow nymph]

me when I wait 40 minutes in queue for spirit in 2v8 just for everyone to dc 😂 ✌️

[winged badge]

Yeah, I hope they go back and buff Still Sight soon. Could probably even get away with making the aura reading map wide or Empathy distance since you have to stay in one spot for it unlike Eleven's

[manic fulcrum]

No he ain’t small indoor maps is still good for him you just need to be good with guessing where they’ll be

[manic fulcrum]

Bc you can sneak on gens and get multiple hit on the ones that are doing it

[autumn mirage]

pretty much or at least a rework, Eleven perk is straight up better than using bound, Still sight, chest perks, windows of opportunity and more 💀

[winged badge]

I think Windows still has it beat, only because you're not really going to be crouching all that much in chase. But yeah, Detective's Hunch is also outdone. Even Alan's Boon.

[autumn mirage]

Yeah but with 2 crouchs you know all pallets location

[viscid mesa]

Visionary and Deja vu are better than the Alan Wake gen totem perk

[winged badge]

It's my least favorite boon by far

[indigo quartz]

who wants killer practice vs me

[granite oriole]

Just deja vu, visionary is meh...

[stoic oasis]

Only because you use Discord Light Theme I don’t want to

[indigo quartz]

no i use dark mode

cant send screenshots here

[stoic oasis]

Uh huh, classic excuse

All you Discord Light Theme users are the same

[flint spade]

can anyone reach a moderator or someone that could help me rq?

[stoic oasis]

Or you could?

[flint spade]

balright

[stoic oasis]

Ping them if you need to, or DM one of them

[flint spade]

the crew ones orr

[stoic oasis]

The crew ones, yes

They’ll throw a temper tantrum if it’s not important though

[flint spade]

alr

[echo dune]

Has anyone actually seen the new steve harrington cosmetic its as if they just made him some what puffier almost

[flint spade]

yo @stoic oasis its just the human verification thing it keeps popping up anytime i do anything

any fix?

[echo dune]

why not just use the command / mod mail

[flint spade]

wym?

[stoic oasis]

Waaait… are you a fucking clanker?

[flint spade]

nooooo

they keep thinking i am tho

[stoic oasis]

…That’s what a clanker would say

[flint spade]

and it wont stop it keeps asking me

[stoic oasis]

I honestly have no idea what that is, but did you try verifying yourself?

[flint spade]

ye its not that its just like when your on google and you gotta verify your not a robot well its that on here and anytime i add or text someone it makes me do it

[stoic oasis]

So it’s on the entirety of Discord, not only this server?

[flint spade]

yes

i just thought maybe someone in here knew how

[stoic oasis]

I’d contact the Discord staff then if you can’t resolve it lol

[indigo quartz]

what

[echo dune]

I was talking about the model change ( said the word cosmetic by mistake! )

[indigo quartz]

i know our game is held together by duct tape

but is it too much to ask that if this mfer is holding his dumb power that at least there's some faint indicator near me that allows me to have some understanding of where he's aiming

considering he isnt locked into a fixed camera angle/position

[weak jay]

will all the ST Characters get updated voice lines? if so, will they be the original ones or not? or did i get false info on YT?

[stoic oasis]

Nothing is confirmed until it releases

[spare canopy]

Do characters, BP, and all progress get wiped once the PTB moves to full release? Or will we still be able to access progress on live release and PTB?

[cold sonnet]

waiting 45 minutes just for "something went wrong with your game"

so fun

[astral cipher]

Whatever happens on PTB, stays on PTB

[spare canopy]

🔥

[cunning kelp]

I’m pretty sure the PTBs are under a different game than the actual game so anything that you get with cells are kept, unless any killers or survivors come free with the PTB

[bold sphinx]

vecna was fun the first five seconds but now everyone dc as soon as they go against him

i've seen more dc against him in the ptb than against any other character

[granite oriole]

That's the right thing to do

Surely BHVR will look at balance issue some day, right?

[bold sphinx]

he wasn't that strong at first, he was even weak

but now that people can play him a little bit better, i see how fucking good he can be

if ur team can't deny his power until late, it's a free game

if one of the member in the whole team isn't good he can just farm his power off them, and have unlimited injure mode

[granite oriole]

?

How double tap insta down without CD is weak

[bold sphinx]

most people would miss so much and take alot of time to reach their cd and the double tap almost no vecna i've seen use it were able to hit both they're lucky if they hit even one, but now that they've learned to use it, it's way stronger and the undeground ability make it really hard for surv to heal since you can literally use it on them as soon as they unhook

[granite oriole]

It's very slow on hook, isn't it? For a few seconds after unhook too, no?

[bold sphinx]

it makes healing at normal speed after unhook near impossible if the vecna comeback

lot of other killer than do the same ofc but the one vecna have is worst

[granite oriole]

We'll make it time

[bold sphinx]

what?

[granite oriole]

Perk that doubles your healing speed after unhook

[bold sphinx]

you underestimate how fast he can comeback while using underground attack 😭

[granite oriole]

I mean, he's busted. I don't want to play against that shi

[bold sphinx]

and it's even worst if he slugs

as good as a slugging nurse, just lost at 3 gens against him it's rlly strong

every of my team8 is crying in the chat 😭

[granite oriole]

Full skillcheck coulrophobia Doctor on small map allows you to slug like crazy

With double iri add-ons

[bold sphinx]

the amount of conditions this takes is alot, and works mainly against new team that can't do skillcheck but vecna can do it really easily with only the nurse calling perks just like the nurse can

[open patrol]

Quick question: if they wanted dustin to be short like he is in the lobby why didnt they just make him the same size as a female survivor?

[worthy stone]

Because male survivors have one model and female survivors have one model putting a males model on a female model doesn’t seem that simple I think

[open patrol]

Oh, I figured it’d just be like shrinking him a bit, its a little odd to have him scaled shorter in the lobby tho compared to that game bc they clearly have the model for it, plus I think if he was the same size as female survivors it wouldnt be pay to win right?

[worthy stone]

eh who knows I mean then you could just say Dustin is the only male character to have a smaller model similar to a female model it’s just simpler for bhvr to not change the one model for one survivor but then again you can also say it’s false advertising since Dustin the lobby is smaller but bigger in game and you can say robin is taller in the lobby but shorter in game but due to their model limitations

[open patrol]

Idk Id just rlly like him to be shorter and robin to be taller, they kinda did a similar thing with the d&d chapter, so its interesting to see it cant be done here, we’ll see when the ptb is over but I do hope they make more unique skeletons for the survivors honestly, especially since people are saying it is false advertisement in a way

[bold sphinx]

DID ANYONE SEE THE HUGE BUG WITH LEON WHEN HES LISTENING TO MUSIC

it's so weird you literally see his upper body leaving the lower part

[keen storm]

Is the queue for 2v8 PTB long for everyone (survivors)? I've been trying to play survivor for a while and haven't gotten any games. I'm in the Aussie/Oceania zone, maybe it's less populated than other servers...

[digital forge]

So does anybody else feel like Vecna's clock thing should either be a LITTLE bit shorter or fill up 1/2 or 3/4 the thing instead of an instant injure?? Skill issue probably but I'm reallt struggling to face him on literally any outdoor map

[glass fox]

so based on ptb what would be The First's best addons and combo?

[cursive phoenix]

i have found so many cool tricks with this killer

unlike every other killer, the delay due to using power near a hooked survivor can actually be used to your advantage

also, this addon's aura is not increased by lethal. im assuming a bug

also i think turn back the clock shoudl state either "current progress" or "total progress" to make it clear on which it is. also it cant be used on regressing gens, which is either a bug, or should also be specified

[ripe bison]

Brown one that damages generators and breaks pallets with the aoe of the movement power

[stoic crypt]

my new favorite killer

the fraud is really goated

[glass fox]

pop is the only perk that ever uses current progress

[cursive phoenix]

your right, since when did they remove the term "total progress" i remember seeing that

[cursive phoenix]

seems he cant be stunned when hitting with his pwoer

[stoic crypt]

this may just be a ping issue

[summer heath]

aestri has a male skeleton, so it’s definitely possible

[ancient harness]

||;;||

[cunning kelp]

The addon that lets him have 2 charges is insanely good

Followed by the one that gives him 20% haste after coming out of the upside down

[static kite]

when is the stranger things chapter out for australia

[real pond]

Will we have 2v8 or is it just for the testing 💔

[gray horizon]

likely january 27 for everyone

[native aspen]

https://x.com/i/status/2010743795898278172

Dead by Daylight (@DeadbyDaylight)

There's no turning back the clock.
The First - Vecna is coming to Dead by Daylight on January 27.

X · Jan 12, 2026, 4:00 PM

[sly copper]

I have a question about the torchbearer class for those who have tried the ptb

does anyone know how many people are allowed in the torchbearer class in 2v8? is it the normal 4 players or has it been limited to 2 or less

[ripe bison]

Its the normal 4

4 players who can never land flashlight or flashbang saves but always try

[sly copper]

thank god

[sly copper]

this is what I’m dreading, when we had to search the entire map for a flashlight, the people who didnt know the timing always got the lights

[ripe bison]

Niw all thsie people who cant will start the game with one and waste time trying to land them

[tacit nest]

Add me

[vital zealot]

Couldnt be me

[sly copper]

why

[daring vessel]

Does Nurse still get 3 blinks when in range of the partner killer in 2v8?

[ripe bison]

No

[daring vessel]

Well that's lame.

[craggy mortar]

omfg NO good bp offerings

[daring vessel]

Is 2v8 queue broken rn? I queued up over 10 minutes ago and the wait time has been saying 5 minutes.

[brazen gulch]

mine doesnt even tell me queue time

[daring vessel]

Definitely broken/bugged rn then.

I've been waiting for like 20 mins with it saying 5 minutes.

[daring vessel]

So when I play killer on 2v8 everyone is a gen efficient machine, but when I play survivor on 2v8 nobody does gens except me. It just doesn't make sense.

[versed idol]

yeah ever since that was removed its been harder to enjoy playing nurse in 2v8 :/ she needs that for the extra traversal really badly

[daring vessel]

She's so bad in 2v8.

Someone holds W and there's nothing you can do.

There's also a billion obstacles in 2v8 so it's easy to lose LOS.

[versed idol]

yeah i've gotta sweat my ass off to get an 8k and even then the gens seem to pop 4 at a time

[versed idol]

also this is so damn true, my fiancé and i will get the craziest survs ever when we duo killer and then the next game as survs get teammates who don't know what generators even are

[daring vessel]

Yeah, there's not even double gens for double the people so if people actually decide to do gens they will go faster than the blink of an eye.

[daring vessel]

Yeah I always get crazy survivors when I play 2v8 killer, then headless chickens for teammates.

[split perch]

does killer matchmaking always take so long? i swear ive been waiting 15 minutes 😭

[brazen gulch]

maybe skill issue bro

[daring vessel]

Your life is a skill issue bro.

[calm iron]

I just tried vecna and he's super fun imo. My only problem is when traversing the upside-down you might as well be a puddle. Do we know if we'll get and VFX for it when in releases?

[placid heron]

I think it’s time we reduce how much we spend in the blood web by half for the next PTB.

[solemn chasm]

in the ptb when using corrupt intervention the affected generators are not highlighted in white its a glitch

[normal bramble]

how u try

[lavish plank]

Does anyone know when the eu servers are getting the vecna update

[calm iron]

How do you mean?

[echo dune]

PTB my friend,

[echo dune]

You have hollow shell>

?

[hazy kraken]

guess tiff liked nemesis' whip way too much💀

[echo dune]

So how is everyone liking Vecna?

[digital badge]

i think is ok, only i hope bhvr dont nerf him

[daring vessel]

If they nerf him like they did Krasue he's DOA.

[fickle crane]

I need him in live now

[worthy stone]

I like him he feels very unique like you can’t really compare him to something his aoe is new and his vines are a pyramid head attack kinda but overall I’m surprised he doesn’t need any nerfs from the ptb

The nerf you could say is for his vines but if he misses it goes on cooldown and he’s 110 so his counter play is to hold w

[echo dune]

Nerfing his cooldown as i have been saying will turn him into a long range nemesis, vecnas will just go complete animation lock = m2

[worthy stone]

Wdym complete animation lock =m2

[echo dune]

yk how nemesis plays right? most nemi players dont go for tentacle unless the survivor is animation locked

i.e, window vault pallet vault or throwing down pallet etc

[fleet elbow]

How does one get into PTB

[stoic crypt]

i don’t think his cooldown should be insane

7 seconds seems fine to me anything above that might be od, especially cuz survivors can gain hella distance upon the first vine attack

[plain quest]

Vecna needs 3 hits to damage, do you think 21 seconds (minimum) is reasonble to get a single damage state as a ranged killer

Whilst hitting all your attacks

Seems too long imo

[limber tiger]

Lets make it 30 seconds

[ripe bison]

Really fun but needs tweaks to not be absurd on release. Also needs addon reworks.

Increasing the ammoint of counters needed would also be a good thing. Feels way too easy.

[echo dune]

What counters would you like to see added?
and what tweaks?

[ripe bison]

No i mean

By counters I mean the number of hits it takes to trigger worldbreaker

[echo dune]

By how much?

[ripe bison]

For tweaks stuff like the cooldown and/or windup for his ranged attack.

[ripe bison]

Can't say for sure if Im honest. Id need to play around with him a little more.

[limber tiger]

$ptb info

[dusty edge]

Learn about PTBs here: :link: https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/kb/articles/358-ptbs

[echo dune]

Cause making it like 3 or even 4 it will take 4 or 5 hits respectively just to injure and taking about 50% hit rate that will be a death sentence to the character

His undergate attack is almost impossible to hit against smart survivors

unless badly zoned or something

so his m2 is the only thing going for him

[stoic crypt]

literally

[ripe bison]

Thats kind of the point thougj

[fickle crane]

I do think a lot of our idea of Vecna 2's strength does kind of need to be tempered by the fact that the PTB's matchmaking is not as precise as live server's. I was doing very well in most of my PTB games, but I generally do a lot better on the PTB than I do on live, even when very little is changed

[echo dune]

Yeah, since that is not a consistent source of dmg nerfing his the other one will just make him weak

[stoic crypt]

he has one of the best m2s in the game tho so

i would only make his cooldown longer that’s it

nothing else, they shouldn’t buff his upside down attack

[fickle crane]

I am slightly biased because I love Vecna 2, but I would prefer if major balance changes waited a week or so after his live release. I think his cooldown being short makes sense for the kind of M2 he has.

[stoic crypt]

it’s fine for zoning and traversal

[echo dune]

I agree, but nerfing his cooldown more than needed will make him feel very weak and force vecna to play extremely safe, like a nemesis who only hits on animation lock

[ripe bison]

No there needs to be more of a delay before the attack pops up similar to pyramid head's attack.

You cant mind game and attempt to dodge it if there is little warning

[stoic crypt]

u already get a audio queue bruh and u can dodge all of his m2s as long as ur not directly in the middle of it when he places it

[echo dune]

As scott jund puts it, if his cooldown is far too long it will just mkae going against him boring as there is no constant guessing game between the killer and survivor

[stoic crypt]

and he’s 4.4 bruh like shift w being the obvious counter to him, he doesn’t need more counter play for his m2 when there already is by being unpredictable and faking pallets and vaults

[fickle crane]

From what I have seen, a lot of the way people try to dodge it seems similar to how people dodge the Unknown's attack at closer ranges. Both are difficult to react to at close range, so a lot of people will instead wait until you are capable of firing it and then begin to move unpredictably. You may not be able to react to it once you press M1, but a lot of the counterplay seems to be in anticipating where it's going to be

I know with suggestions like these, I'm likely to never be a game designer, but personally, I would enjoy 4.2 m/s Vecna more than I would enjoy Vecna with nerfs to his actual power

[echo dune]

As long as you keep dodging him you will always have distance between vec2na and you

[echo dune]

That will make him very weak to exhaustion perks which tbh is fine there is room for counterplay

[fickle crane]

He already is. I don't necessarily mind that.

My thinking is similar to my thoughts on Nurse. Her being slower than survivors makes sense because of how strong her power is. Theoretically, a Nurse played absolutely perfectly could be impossible to dodge. I do not think that Vecna is as good as Nurse, but I think that a slightly similar principle applies

I'm not saying Vecna should be 4.2, I'm just saying that from my personal bias, I love how Vecna's power feels and wouldn't want to see it changed much, and I kind of like the idea of the inexorable end that a powerful killer with slow movement speed can represent.

[echo dune]

Ive been watching a lot of comp plays with vec2na, and those dudes dont got any problem beating him and can usually get consistent 2-3 escapes

[fickle crane]

Admittedly, I do not take comp DBD into consideration much when it comes to my balance philosophy. I think the experience and needs of comp players and the majority of the playerbase are quite different

[echo dune]

I do take it into balance, because i personally believe if they can dodge and eventually beat vec2na, proves it depends squarely on the persons skill to win or lose not on the character or his power

I would personally want to see Vec2na unerfed on release, if he is too strong then sure nerf him

[fickle crane]

One moment, I need to put a pin in this.

[shrewd geyser]

I average dbd player with average reaction time and for me was quite difficult to dodge the vec2na m2 attack on close-mid distance,even sound dont help me too much

[echo dune]

If you look at huntress its also hard to dodge when they are close-mid distance. So its not anything new, Huntress m2 point blank to mid range is also easy to hit

[shrewd geyser]

But you always can crouch or bait

[shrewd geyser]

1 is projectile 1 is ground area attack, definitely projectile is easier to dodge(for me)

Will be better I they gave more time to react or louder sound

[echo dune]

True, but even the most newbie player can hit the projectile and AOE at close- mid range, if its a guranteed hit 100% only then I would consider it a nerf worthy ability ( at long range )

but I guess we can agree to disagree

[shrewd geyser]

I wonder what they will do to vec2na on realise

[heavy vessel]

dbd is so boring these days

i hope the live release for stranger things part 2 has good content

[weary pilot]

Does vecna's brown addon that causes gens to regress from undergate attack count towards the regression limit?

[snow tusk]

Anything that damages gens counts towards regression limit. Only “exception” would be ruin but that’s because it’s doesn’t damage gens and just actively regress them

[astral cipher]

Anything that damages gen for at least 2.5% in an instance

Ruin is not the only exception, Oppression bypasses the system too

So if the add-on doesn’t do any immediate percentage based regression, it will also not count

[snow tusk]

Yea but no one remembers Oppression, certainly slipped my mind

[astral cipher]

It’s a fairly common perk nowadays

At least compared to how rare it used to be

[snow tusk]

Not in the Pain Res meta and perhaps soon to be Turn Back the Clock

[visual shell]

when is vecna coming to non ptb

[snow tusk]

27th

[tawny bison]

Hahha me and Steve just ran a pyramid head for 4 gens and he quit

[signal kelp]

Was looking for what date the chapter would be available. Happy i found my answer here. Asked in general chat and someone said september 11th

[stoic crypt]

it’s a guessing game between survivor and killer

i don’t see why u want him brutally nerfed, nurse does the exact same shit but is more braindead

[echo dune]

My friend read above! I am in support of wanting to see him go to live without nerf!

[celest hare]

https://youtu.be/NLAWCd1h6Rw?si=SkXGnqK-T5kTx4V- it's okay though because nurse exists am I right fellas 😏

These teams just weren't comp enough for Vecnussy smh my head

[misty vault]

Is ptb on console ?

[echo dune]

I just watched the first 2 matches and here is my observation :-
1)The survivors were actively not trying to keep distance and actively were rushing vec2na in the face

2)Actively forcing themselves into corner like the combine harvester where its a guranteed undergate attack

3. Actively Dcing and giving up ( early game )

4. The killer got easy hits because they didnt keep distance and were rushing him

5. The killer didnt throw shots, but actually took shots reasonably ( for example, against survivors who didnt know their aura was revealed, standing on hills, and the killer was flicking his mouse to mindgame survivors who can see him, also aiming at checkspots, faking his power etc

[celest hare]

All very true

[echo dune]

Every killer needs to be countered using their own specific sets of counterplay. You cant expect them to not use their advantage ( Survivors actively not using counterplay that is pre running etc )

[celest hare]

Very true

[stoic crypt]

bro didn’t master shit

[echo dune]

The video title is very misleading he is playing against clueless survivors, and you have to give him that he is good, using flicks and fakes to mindgame survivors

[celest hare]

Pretty sure he's playing the character the realistically best it can be played lol, I don't see how it'd take much having played him and stomping survivors with ease myself

[echo dune]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LG-wkbk9GnE

watch this and then make up your mind a little

[celest hare]

COMP DBD such a good measurement for that's overtuned and overpowered 💪

Cater for the majority ❌
Cater for the top 0.01% of players ✔️

[echo dune]

My point to showing this is, they werent using the perks that are used by the majority! So even without that they managed this.
But there is no point to us debating anymore, its clear neither of us are willing to change our opinion

[summer heath]

tbtc is not becoming meta its too limited and not effective enough to justify bringing against a meta team

[summer heath]

vecna has a literally humanly inachieveable skill ceiling

[limpid crag]

What

[celest hare]

As does what, every single killer? Lol?

[craggy mortar]

Yeah i just got it but i didn't have any before

[autumn mirage]

when does PTB end today?

[ripe bison]

His power is similar to Nurse's in that a human being can never perfectly achieve attack landings every single time without fail, but if they could he would be insane. There is always room for error no matter what. Applies similarly to Springtrap but to a lesser extent

[limpid crag]

Yap

[celest hare]

Except nurse is the strongest killer in the game so if the word insane applies to anyone it'd be nurse

[subtle zephyr]

Nearly every Blight main will disagree with you on that

[summer heath]

? nurse is just better than blight

[subtle zephyr]

Mmm...it depends on how you play them

Nurse and Blight are easily the best killers in the game but it depends on how you play them and utilize their kit

[vital zealot]

nurse is much harder to be good with

blight is easy mode. anyway do we think henry is going to be buffed or nerfed post ptb?

[limpid crag]

He will be the same

[celest hare]

For me it's the total opposite

[vital zealot]

the blink cooldowns drive me insane

[celest hare]

Same, and for blight it's just how clunky it feels to play as

[upper karma]

so

[celest hare]

mmmmyeahhhhhh 👄

[subtle zephyr]

Tf

[cursive knot]

How many hours the update will release?

[native aspen]

The chapter is set to release on January 27th

[cursive knot]

The 2v8

[meager imp]

336 hours

[cursive knot]

Oh fuck

[limber tiger]

Unknown

[ripe bison]

We are getting chaos shuffle not 2v8

[limber tiger]

Says who?

I dont see anything from bhvr

[ripe bison]

Was announced a year ago

They also talked about it last month I believe

Theyre making it so addons are also randomized

[raven flume]

Is the stranger things ptb paid

[limber tiger]

Wdym

Its free as long as you own dbd on steam

[ripe bison]

PTBs are always available to anyone who owns the game on steam

Steam specifically. Not Epic store or console

[limber tiger]

I ong do not see anything on it

[ripe bison]

I was off by three days

[olive holly]

when is vecna coming to live servers

[limber tiger]

That says 2025

Its 2026

[limber tiger]

Jan 27th

Its pinned in here

[olive holly]

okay thanks

[viscid mesa]

I just saw this in my feed
https://fxtwitter.com/shitpost_2049/status/2011091194353254799?s=20

Shitpost 2049 (@shitpost_2049)

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[flat oracle]

Yeah they don't announce events a year in advance, that was for the third iteration of chaos shuffle last year that happened 16th - 28th 2025

[ripe bison]

Oof

My brain being stupid

[limber tiger]

CatManThree is having the alzheimer's

[raven flume]

K ty

[autumn mirage]

😭

never let them know your next move ig

[ripe bison]

lmao

[autumn mirage]

CatManThree was right tho

[patent sand]

anybody else getting into lobbies and then stuck on the loading screen when it tries to load into the trial?

[sharp ivy]

Yes

[celest hare]

You know what's funny? I read your screenshot without seeing a single issue. How tf is it 2026

[violet raven]

Yup

Update the app

[limber tiger]

Was this today?

[autumn mirage]

I took this pic rn

literally this second chaos shuffle is on game, not PTB 😭

[limber tiger]

Well its good that its available, they hadn't said anything tho

[solar atlas]

Dude yes

Sometimws my whole game crashes

[autumn mirage]

Didnt they went over the banned addons beforehand this past months?

[solar atlas]

But it only happens on survivor for some reason

[patent sand]

its on both

[autumn mirage]

also as usual nice Frieren pfp :3

[autumn mirage]

Damm didnt check ptb, so 2v8 is gone?

[jagged fable]

why arent the chaos shuffle servers not loading

[patent sand]

yep

[jagged fable]

it js goes into the loading screen and says theres a problem

[patent sand]

update ur game

[jagged fable]

huh

[limpid crag]

Ptb is over go home BYYYYE

[autumn mirage]

😔

[jagged fable]

so how long does ptb last for now

[limpid crag]

0

[autumn mirage]

damm thats sad

[jagged fable]

wait so ptb is gone?

[limpid crag]

Yeah yuh

[solar atlas]

It wnded today

[patent sand]

i dont think so

[limpid crag]

It fucking died

[limber tiger]

Im unsure I've tried looking and I couldn't find anything on the CS stuff from posts etc
We are the official dbd discord and as such we like official info posted just as a future thingy, leaks and unofficial posting of future stuff is typically frown upon
Thanks im excited for Jan 16th s2 of frieren

[jagged fable]

its tellin me to update so

oh it is gone

damn what abt chaos gamemode?

[limpid crag]

In the code you can see they banned all of Pyramid Head's fun add-ons

[limpid crag]

Gotta go back to the base game for it

[jagged fable]

oh okay

[solar atlas]

I dont like chaos shuffle because i always run walkie and egg on wesker and im unable to function without it now

[limber tiger]

Lets all head over to #game-discussion since ptb is now closed

[limpid crag]

No

[autumn mirage]

i remember this image the other month

[limpid crag]

I like the secret club

[solar atlas]

Im scared of the people in game discussion

[autumn mirage]

okie :3

[tawdry kernel]

bit rude...

[limpid crag]

Moth Man SMT reaction image emoji
You're kinda GOATED

[limpid crag]

LOOK AT HOW MUCH THEY TOOK FROM TRIANGLE DOME! MY POOR BABY

[patent sand]

how is saying "no" rude??

[solar atlas]

WHY DID THEY REMOVE THE SUNGLASSES ADD ON FOR WESKER

[limpid crag]

Because some people can't take no for an answer and it's rude otherwise

[tawdry kernel]

cldve worded it nicer

[patent sand]

how would you have worded it then?

[worthy stone]

[patent sand]

no thank you papa

[solar atlas]

Dude u cant word it differently because its one word

[dusty edge]

@tawdry kernel 🚫➡️ Your message content contains flagged text

[solar atlas]

LMAO

[limpid crag]

WOAH

[patent sand]

HUH

[limpid crag]

I saw that!

[solar atlas]

Bro said the hard r

Mods get him out😂

[patent sand]

now THAT was rude

[limpid crag]

They wanted me to say "no thank you I will not be partaking in the movement to the other channel, thank you for the offer though"

[patent sand]

bruh

if saying no is rude does saying yes mean i wanna bounce on it

[limpid crag]

I forgot what I was gonna say now I was typing something else then the R word came out

[patent sand]

lmfao

[tawdry kernel]

stop dick riding omg

[limpid crag]

Words don't have meaning anymore

[patent sand]

bit rude...

[limpid crag]

No dick riding anywhere

[tawdry kernel]

u literally didnt need to get involved uw eirdo

[limpid crag]

All this over a "no" by the way

[cursive phoenix]

https://x.com/DeadbyDaylight/status/2011106159113965634?s=20 LETS FUCKING GOO(O

Dead by Daylight (@DeadbyDaylight)

Embrace the unexpected.
Chaos Shuffle, the Modifier that fills every loadout with random Perks, is now back from January 13 to January 27.

🆕 Prepare for even more chaos! The rarity and add-ons of your chosen Survivor item along with the add-ons of Killer powers will now be

X · Jan 13, 2026, 4:00 PM

[solar atlas]

Chronically online final boss

[patent sand]

i was in the conversation before you joined it LOL

[limpid crag]

I'd be more excited if they didn't cut off Pyramid Head's cool add-ons

[tawdry kernel]

ok.. but i wasnt directing the message to u

[patent sand]

cry abt it

[limpid crag]

Your rage over the word "no" is crazy

[tawdry kernel]

how is this rage

[limpid crag]

Bro you dropped the r word

Don't play dumb 😭

[tawdry kernel]

how does that show rage

[patent sand]

maybe bc its a slur??

[limpid crag]

I dunno man you could've been nicer don't you think

[solar atlas]

U literally called someone a slur

[tawdry kernel]

a truthful slur

[solar atlas]

Which u probably dont even have a pass for

[celest hare]

Takes one to know one ig

[limber tiger]

Hey yall, this isnt really a ptb discussion
How aboot me move it to dms, #general-chat or #game-discussion !

[patent sand]

r u a mod

[limpid crag]

Nope

[patent sand]

[celest hare]

Why's nobody glazing me for this?? I ate bad

[solar atlas]

Its rlly awkward to change channels mid discussion

[celest hare]

Isn't the PTB over now

[limpid crag]

No it's over now

[celest hare]

"No" and "it's over now" made me laugh lol

[patent sand]

unfortunately :( i miss dustin already

[celest hare]

DON'T CLOSE THE CHANNEL I WANNA TALK ABOUT TEMU VECNA give me an hour 😠

[limpid crag]

I CAN'T READ

[celest hare]

Oh I should sleep I lied nevermind

[flat oracle]

PTB CHANNEL NOW CLOSED

Thank you for using it! It will reopen on the next ptb.

[toxic dirge]

https://fxtwitter.com/DeadbyDaylight/status/2026319079112409339?s=20

Dead by Daylight (@DeadbyDaylight)

The 9.5.0 PTB goes live today with a bunch of changes for you to test and share your feedback on!
︀︀
︀︀🗺️ New Map
︀︀🎤 The Trickster Update
︀︀👤 Aura Customization
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︀︀➕ Much more!
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FxTwitter · Feb 24, 2026, 3:31 PM

[flat oracle]

9.5.0 PTB IS LIVE

Channel is now open for all the flair and explorations the PTB has to offer!

[toxic dirge]

PATCH NOTES https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/kb/articles/537-9-5-0-ptb-patch-notes

[olive girder]

guys resilience description is missing gen repair and opening gates

[unborn junco]

You're welcome fellas, I risked a ban for this opening.

[noble moon]

Helloooo, could someone tell me how do i enter the ptb? Thanks in advance!!

[toxic dirge]

$ptb

[dusty edge]

Learn about PTBs here: :link: https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/kb/articles/358-ptbs

[toxic dirge]

Steam only

[noble moon]

Thanks!

[solemn valve]

is there a reason why the re characters didnt get the prestige badges

[harsh hearth]

where pinhead at

[stiff wolf]

dead

[valid sparrow]

can i post my ptb vc in here?

[flat oracle]

If you're looking for a group, even with ptb I would still recommend #looking-for-group as a good place to post about it

[valid sparrow]

oaky ive been trying but getting nobody that wants to play ptp even when i put ptp in my title thank you though