ptb-discussion

[limber ridge]

what about the wedding ring attachment? i assume it dosent work that cause that would be broken

[void pasture]

Doesn’t that reveal the obsessions aura to you?

[snow tusk]

That’s for fellow survivors no?

[void pasture]

it wouldn’t work with we see you since it would only be if the killer reveals your aura

[potent mountain]

Why did Nancy’s model get changed??? the survivor looks nothing like Nancy

[limber ridge]

no you just have a view of the killers location at all times

[void pasture]

Did they change it cuz I swear it never used to do that

[limber ridge]

yes thats a key attachment

[molten hinge]

im seriously freaked out by it not only does it not look like nancy but it looks like a fortnite character model

[void pasture]

No the wedding ring add on makes you and the obsession see each others auras and you have a decreased chance of being the obsession

[limber ridge]

built to last works on keys?

[snow tusk]

Does it not? I’m not sure

[limber ridge]

oh right i read it wrong

[stark summit]

Did they do an overhaul on the graphics? Everyone looks very shiny lmao, or is it just my computer

[limber ridge]

i can try it and seem i doubt it tho cause its a use number not a charge

[snow tusk]

Also bullying Weave Attunement players with OOO and WSY

[potent mountain]

NO RIGHT, that part. Like she looks so uncanny it’s so weird

[granite furnace]

Does the game sometimes crash for anyone else when exiting the upside down or is it just me?

[glad shadow]

yoo what can i see (i play console)

[snow tusk]

It does. It just rounds up
So first BtL will restore all key charges

[limber ridge]

wym by rounds up?

[lunar musk]

@stoic oasis Hey are playing DBD?

[potent mountain]

I can’t send any photos, but if you have tiktok look up “dbd ptb nancy”

[limber ridge]

oh i also took that brown attachment that gives it 1 more charge

[stoic oasis]

Nothing, the PTB is PC only. Watch YouTube videos

[snow tusk]

You can’t have 99% of six charges now can you
5.94 charges?

[stoic oasis]

I am indeed. Why do you ask? Not the PTB though

[potent mountain]

Isn’t PTB PC only? or did they change it to Console

[stoic oasis]

I can switch to it if you want

[lunar musk]

I was curious if you would want to do a quick 1v1, since we might not see each other in the fog normally for a bit

[stoic oasis]

Sorry, that was a typo lol

[stoic oasis]

Fuck yeah! I’d love to get shit on LOL

[lunar musk]

Haha

[snow tusk]

Me with OOO and WSY revealing the Weave Attunement killer the entire match
The Fu Lich tech

[stoic oasis]

Are we doing it on PTB or regular?

[warm pike]

Whats a good build on vecna

[lunar musk]

I am on regular if you are

[snow tusk]

Which one?

[stoic oasis]

Corrupt, Pop, Pain Res, Eruption

[warm pike]

Super meat boy

[stoic oasis]

Lucky for us, I am

[warm pike]

Isnt this just generic gen slowdown ?

[snow tusk]

You know how lil that narrows it down

[lunar musk]

[warm pike]

The clock one

[teal hollow]

im all ears
lethal pursuer
hex hive mind
turn back the clock

[stoic oasis]

Yes, it’s the best slow down in a game. You asked for a good build, I gave you the best one

[snow tusk]

Ahhhh
Insidous is funny but like actually
DMS, Pain Res, Secret Project and Pop
Orrrrr
Ruin, Hivemind, Undying, TotH

[stoic oasis]

KnightLight used it all of today on his Vecna as well. Momo runs it every day on his Blight. I could list more examples if you need

[warm pike]

😭😭

[snow tusk]

You wanted a good build

[warm pike]

I guess

Thx for the builds

[quiet iron]

honestly i kinda hate that they added dustin as a survivor because i HATE having to kill him i just feel SO BAD

and like god forbid i ever have to mori him

[steep star]

U have to buy vecna to play ptb with him right?

[quiet iron]

nah he's automatically unlocked

[stoic oasis]

He’s free on the PTB, P3, 50

[granite furnace]

Does anyone else keep getting disconnected from the server after emerging as vecna?

[warm pike]

Everyones just running the wrist rocket right?

[mossy spruce]

Can my Xbox friend play the PTB?

[warm pike]

Pc only

[granite furnace]

I like wrist rocket and electroshock collar

[calm python]

Y'all, did they not transfer the content from the live servers to the PTB? All my characters are lvl 0, and a couple of licensed characters I bought with auric cells are gone. All my skins as well

[stoic oasis]

It’s a completely different save

[calm python]

I wonder why they'd do that

[stoic oasis]

All of your characters are P3 50

[calm python]

Cuz like

Previous ptbs just copied the progress from the live servers

[quiet iron]

if you go to the bloodweb on any character it automatically gives you prestige three, all perks are unlocked and you have 100 of each add-on and offering

[stoic crypt]

6 foot tall dustin

[stoic oasis]

They also gave 12 500 auric cells if you wish to purchase anything

[calm python]

Ohhhh

[quiet iron]

in addition, if you go to your inbox there's 12,500 auric cells and some bloodpoints with your name on it. they're very generous.

none of this carries over after the PTB though

[limber ridge]

i took the brown one that increases charges by 1 and built to last gave me 5

[ripe bison]

I just did a game of stealth Billy with plaything and secret project

it was fucking amazing

[limber ridge]

goated combo

[ripe bison]

It works with pentimento totems too btw

[analog orbit]

Anybody else have the issue with not being able to find the new killer perks on other killers?

[void pasture]

Does it not show in the search bar?

[analog orbit]

Not at all

[void pasture]

Yea weird not showing for me either

[ripe bison]

Yeah its a known bug. I had it too. Was looking forward to testing out the new perks on Hag but ugh

[void pasture]

It’s weird because I’ve seen some people playing other killers with his perks

[quiet iron]

sort of unrelated but i like how the first's perks show up in the search bar if you search for vecna

[analog orbit]

Pmo

[stark summit]

My fiancé just had the weirdest match in the Ptb. He was against Vecna, who kept going across the map straight to survivors after hooking one, and then one of the other survivors died in the locker without being hit and no mend. It was super weird

[void pasture]

Probably a hacker

[stark summit]

No aura perks at all 😂 I assume so

[void pasture]

if they weren’t hit as you jumped in, or you weren’t in deep wound then there is no possible way to die in a locker

[analog orbit]

What perks?

[echo oracle]

Vecna is so dogshit

[analog orbit]

?

[stark summit]

They had Vecna's 3 perks, unless one of them gives cross map aura reading, then Id be wrong, and Hex:Ruin

[echo oracle]

Genuinely one of the weakest killers

[analog orbit]

He could be aware of what generators are being worked on

[analog orbit]

Hes actually pretty strong, with some tweaks I could see him being high B to High A

[limber ridge]

wait a minute, does this mean perks like treacherous crows and inner focus also charge " we see you" if you have 000?

[odd root]

So what does that gague that fills when new Vecna's ability catches survivors and it fills to the max do?

[stark summit]

That's the thing, they were still at 4 gens without working on them because they were constantly being hunted down

[stiff token]

Is meyers in the ptb

[echo oracle]

Hes ass, the vines are decent if your going against brain dead survivors and the underdark is too slow. The other vecna is 10000% times better

[analog orbit]

If theyre also second hook state with 4 tokens, upon downing them with his power the survivors will float in the air and be executable with a different mori

[ripe bison]

Its bugged. Some killers cant use the perks for some reason. I think it varies between players who doesnt work

[analog orbit]

He just needs some tweaks

[limber ridge]

if you did not have him before and your progress didnt sync then no

[odd root]

Wait Vecna has two moris?!

[stark summit]

A Mini Mori and the regular

[limber ridge]

its the same mechanics as pyramid head

[ripe bison]

yeah he has a power mori like Sadako and cooler Vecna

[odd root]

You mean his mori but shorter?

[stark summit]

Yeah, like Sadako. Its tied into his power

[ripe bison]

No its a unique mori tied to his power like Sadako and DND Vecna

Which is shorter and has a different animation

[odd root]

Ah I get it. So it's just for mori purposes. I thought it'd be meant for debuff purposes like Freddy or something.

[quiet iron]

pyramid head has the best mini mori in the game

[limber ridge]

its like pyramid head, if you walked through his barbed wire while on deathook he can mori you while your in the dying state, same general concept with henry

[quiet iron]

specifically i think the way it works with vecna is that if you down the survivor with your power while they're on death hook and have four tokens, they get suspended in the air and you can kill them like vecna from hit show stranger things

[odd root]

Does it give any debuffs in anyway?

His abilities or whatnot?

[quiet iron]

i don't think it does, no

think of his power as like, a cross between nemesis and pyramid head

[odd root]

Well I can't really complain since his set looks impressive.

I mean, he can traverse underground to give him a built in speed boost and aoe damage.

[snow tusk]

Besides Weave Attunement, what other perks can an OOO and WSY player can punish?
I’m all Ears?
Nurse’s calling is funny

[quiet iron]

i think vecna's pretty well-balanced, only thing i'd like to see changed is a rebalancing of his upside-down traversal so he isn't so slow to leave. i think a fix that would work is to have him emerge quicker but make the AOE smaller

[odd root]

Well what about that perk that can punish item users by making them exhausted and reveal their auras?

[odd root]

That sounds like a fair deal. What are his addons like? Usually they can be good or fun to use. For some parts.

[snow tusk]

Omg if they have mindbreaker and overwhelming presence that’s funny

[odd root]

Yeah that's it. Overwhelming presence.

[quiet iron]

personally i'm not huge on most of his add-ons but most notably there's one that makes the vine attack's area of effect much smaller but makes it so you can use it twice in one charge, which i've heard is pretty busted

[stoic crypt]

i don’t know if u even need to buff that

[snow tusk]

Wait….

[stoic crypt]

he’s already strong in chase, most people will just use upside down as traversal

[odd root]

I think maybe they could nerf that by making it smaller. Or have longer cooldowns

[snow tusk]

Discordance players in shambles when I use OOO and WSY and repeatedly get on and off a doubled gen

[odd root]

Wait a sec. Are you a killer mains or a survivor main?

[snow tusk]

I dabble in both

I’m saying WSY is kinda busted ngl

Only if they bring aura perks

[odd root]

Ah. I see. Because when I saw you mention OOO. I was thinking of a different OOO lmao

[snow tusk]

Object of Obession?

[odd root]

Ye. My dumb a thought it was a different OOO

[odd root]

Also, what is WSY again?

[snow tusk]

Idea is to be a chase player with OOO WSY DH Finesse and if they do bring any of the aforementioned perks and decide to ignore you as the chase player, you revealed his aura for 15s on a short cooldown

[quasi spruce]

do you credit for doing quests during the PTB?

[snow tusk]

We See You, eleven’s new perk

[odd root]

Ah. I see

[quiet iron]

i haven't looked into any of the new perks at all besides the window trap one

[snow tusk]

Cuz 10 second CD on WSY is really short

[quiet iron]

and the killer perks. im a killer main

[snow tusk]

Oh new Vecna’s perks are all bangers

You can’t go wrong with them

[quiet iron]

yeah i'm surprised they pulled out so many good perks with vecna

killer perks have been kinda doodoo lately. ghoul had some good ones but springtrap was pretty disappointing and i cannot fathom finding any use for krasue's perks

[snow tusk]

I mean an alternative bad Pop that doesn’t make you eat a Blast Mine is kinda good if you’re against a bully squad

[odd root]

I can see that perk being used like crazy

[snow tusk]

Need LoS but consider DMS

[cold sonnet]

Yeah the main hype is remote dms force

[raven flume]

i find it so hard to hit vecnas vine attack lol... i might just be bad?

[quiet iron]

i like the instant generator explosion perk because it doesn't require you to stand still and kick the generator. i've always hated losing distance on survivors because i have to sit there and kick the generator lest it retain all its progress and eventually get finished during chase

[snow tusk]

Hivemind not only being an info perk but auto regresses all of your last 3 gens

[cold sonnet]

Its quite different from the usual ranged attacks in dbd so it's gonna take some getting used to

[snow tusk]

Run an aura build for time being to practice

[odd root]

Yeah but most perks do rely on you physically breaking gens, right?

[quiet iron]

yeah, that's certainly a drawback but i at least like having the option

[snow tusk]

For eruption and oppression yea…

[raven flume]

im new to the game can you name the build please

[cold sonnet]

Hivemind, secret project, dms and grim is already a damn stupid combination

[snow tusk]

But DMS is good enough

[odd root]

True. But can Dracula use the perk in all three of his forms?

[snow tusk]

Ruin and Hivemind is stupid

[quiet iron]

no idea

[snow tusk]

It’s like Surveillance with Ruin

But you don’t wanna buy Pig

[analog orbit]

Bro this killer is gonna be the king of slugging i s2g

[snow tusk]

Test timeeee

[odd root]

secret project with them and undying can go absolutely nuts

[analog orbit]

I just hid in the grass

[snow tusk]

Pentimento with Secret project is kinda funny

[quiet iron]

dude i ate shit on ormond one game, they popped two gens in succession and the last one was basically finished before i locked in and managed to down one of the survivors. from there i snowballed because all of them were injured and the first survivor i slugged decided to crawl instead of recovering so they couldn't get picked up in time for their teammate to save them.

[analog orbit]

Add plaything and survivors hate you 🤣

[quiet iron]

vecna's BIGGEST strength, i think, is being able to damage survivors instantaneously from ludicrous distances as long as he hits his shots

[stoic crypt]

using the upside down is good also u can basically guarantee a hit if u follow a survivor and wait for them to vault

since u can travel under vault locations

[ripe bison]

HIs addon that makes the aoe bigger is disgusting

[analog orbit]

That and the fact he can instantly recover and do it again

Isn't that a brown too? Lmfaoooo

[ripe bison]

yeah

[analog orbit]

Brown addons stay king

[ripe bison]

the base aoe is reasonable to avoid if yorue deft enough but with the increased radius its a lot more difficult

Its still tight though. Feels great to dodge given how tight it is imo

[old tartan]

opinions on the build?

first addon automatically breaks pallets & generators that are within the Undergate attack range and the second one makes the Upside Down traversal cooldown faster (if it already is on cooldown) when i break pallets/walls

[analog orbit]

Its pretty solid if you frame trap and predict frame traps/use aura for that, im curious to know what the increased aoe is like with 2 vines

[winged kraken]

which one is that

[ripe bison]

idr the name but its a brown one

[snow tusk]

Random gen moment huh. Therefore pop your pentimentos at 2-3 gens left

[analog orbit]

Right now im running block vaults break pallets and gens

[analog orbit]

Yesssss

[snow tusk]

You don’t want Thrill of the Hunt so therefore, Retribution

[ripe bison]

why would you want to block vaults if you can hit people through walls

[analog orbit]

I mean you make a very good point, I just thought it was funny as fuck that one ability does THAT much

If shack pallet gets thrown and theres a working generator

With one ability you could theoretically hit every survivor there

Break the pallet, generator and block the vault

All at the same time

[snow tusk]

Wouldn’t Vecna get major Thwack and Knockout value? To hit his power. Massively hindered

[analog orbit]

Yes

[quiet iron]

i wanted to do an aura reading build but for some reason my dumbass ran the worst build possible. it was zanshin tactics, predator, and deerstalker. i realized mid-match that my build was abysmal because i haven't really played dbd in a while and all the new perks at my disposal left me befuddled, and i literally recalled lethal pursuer and i'm all ears at the exact moments where they would've been useful

[hallow chasm]

It has quite a wide range from where you emerge out the ground, would singlehandedly end a chase if pallets are gone in that area.

[old tartan]

the only two addons he has that affect the AOE size both make their respective AOE smaller afaik

unless I'm misreading the description of Orderly ID

[analog orbit]

I would say forced hesi is gonna be extremely op for this killer

[winged kraken]

is discordance good on vecna 2

[quiet iron]

i also ran turn back the clock for a bit of regression but it didn't really matter since i played like shit anyway

[snow tusk]

Is deathbound the one that exposes for healing?

[analog orbit]

Makes them scream and become permanently oblivious if they linger like 5+ meters from the person they healed

Until injured again

[snow tusk]

Which one is exposed?

[analog orbit]

Make your choice? Or ravenous?

[granite furnace]

idk if it's the lack of mmr, the lack of crossplay, or the general mindset of the people who decide to play ptb, but my matches have been so much better

[analog orbit]

No perks make you exposed for healing

Ptb has no mmr

Its just chaos, go

[snow tusk]

WAIT. Underdeep plus Make your Choice and camp hook

[hallow chasm]

Deathbound makes the healer scream when they complete a heal, and they are permanently oblivious while being at least 4 meters away from the Survivor they healed. The Oblivious goes away upon the healer getting injured.

[analog orbit]

You need to be 40 meters away from the unhook when it happens to activate make your choice

[snow tusk]

Ahhhh

[analog orbit]

You also get heavily slowed appearing from the upside down immediately after an unhook, its better to slug

[snow tusk]

Ravenous perhaps…. But they’ll just wait it out

[analog orbit]

Ravenous is better on killers with good mobility and good tracking

[void pasture]

creels m2 feels so ass

[analog orbit]

Unless you sacrifice for tracking

[void pasture]

the range is crazy u can hit from quite a distance but the radius of the actual attack is so small

[snow tusk]

Underdeep and Dragon’s Grip… camp the gen…

[analog orbit]

Try the brown addon

[snow tusk]

Especially on dark maps with dark shrubbery

[analog orbit]

Yeah stuff like that is gonna be real good especially w his haste addon

But I still think slugging is better with forced hesi

[void pasture]

the range is fine, i dont need extra reach my issue with it is the radius of the actual attack

[analog orbit]

You can nail one good down with that, but slugging with forced hesi is gonna net you multiple

[void pasture]

it feels so small

[analog orbit]

Thats what it increases

[void pasture]

it says it increases the aiming range?

[analog orbit]

Well thats what I was told

[snow tusk]

Deadlock and Secret Project is build your own Machine Learning ish

[void pasture]

the aiming range id assume is how far away you can use it and the base range is way good enough

[cold sonnet]

It doesn't increase radius

[void pasture]

its the radius of the attack that sucks major ass

[analog orbit]

Okay so then ig homie didnt know what he was sayin

[void pasture]

I wouldn't mind if they lowered the base range slightly and increased the radius slightly

[analog orbit]

Myb

[void pasture]

but as it stands rn its so incredibly difficult to hit them aside from animation locks

[snow tusk]

It can’t hit people in lockers right?

[void pasture]

no

[analog orbit]

I mean most ranged killers are mostly only getting hits through animation locks or flicks/predict shots anyways

[snow tusk]

Underdeep eat out the Head On player when they inevitably exit

[cold sonnet]

I mean the m2 is crazy fast so like

[plain cave]

can I ask why none of my stuff from normal game transferred to PTB and it put me back at 0 even though I have been playing for years and had progress before they took the pre-ptb data 😭 I wanted to use my prestiged nancy during PTB with her rework but now I have nothing in the PTB and it's annoying 😭

[void pasture]

yea but i mean at least with some of em you can kinda change the trajectory midway thru

like huntress you can flick it, pyramidhead ive heard you can as well, but creel doesnt seem to be able to do that

[cold sonnet]

He can flick the same as pyramid head

[void pasture]

its a difference of a ranged attack shooting out vs popping out of the ground ig

I've not been able to get it to work at all

either way the radius is just so small it feels terrible going for power shots

like ive been able to land maybe 5 hits across like 3 games

[plain cave]

does anyone know how to fix this? It normally transfers data on your account up to a certain time before ptb so it doesn't make sense that I have none of my progress, auric cells, bp, or characters that i've had for forever in the ptb

[snow tusk]

Hmmmm if a killer has secret project….. can’t a hacker mass bless a bunch of totems to repeatedly lock out all the gens and keep the game hostage?

[void pasture]

weird i just noticed that too

[void pasture]

maybe? but after a while everyone can abandon so it can't go on forever

[plain cave]

it's so irritating 😭 cause for other people their data transferred. I tried to uninstall ptb, reinstall normal, and then reinstall ptb and it didn't fix it

[snow tusk]

That’s still a win in the Hacker’s book

[void pasture]

yea but abandoning means you lose nothing so realistcally its the best way out

i think its 10 minutes of no gen work and then the killer can abandon

[ripe bison]

Its bugged. Normally youre given a fuckload of temporary currency specifically for the PTB so you can get cosmetics and stuff for it. Bloodpoint levels are temporarily reset while you are playing the PTB, but characters will auto level to 3 if you select the bloodweb and every character has access to every perk in the game by default

[void pasture]

which automatically ends the match. counts it as a survivor win tho for some bullshit reason

[snow tusk]

Egos man. What can you do about it

[ripe bison]

every survivor is considered to have escaped when you abandon as killer even if they died already

[void pasture]

in any case i hope they make some tweaks to his m2 bcuz it just sucks to use

the radius being so small but the range being so far is weird to me

[snow tusk]

Which incentivized hackers to bully any killers using secret project. If it does become an incident, people will start to avoid the perk

[ripe bison]

I dont see the logic.

[echo oracle]

Current dbd killer tier list. MIght have to move a couple killers down tho

[ripe bison]

Why secret project specifically

[cold sonnet]

If we let the possibility of hackers fearmonger us out of using x perk, we might as well not play

[void pasture]

because it blocks gens when totems are blessed. a hacker could maybe mass bless totems and hold gens hostage that way

[ripe bison]

Oh I see

[snow tusk]

People abandon the game including killers, but the game awards the survivors an escape if killer dc. Therefore hackers sees this as a win and proceed to continue

[void pasture]

yea that too

[ripe bison]

no I meant how the cheaters would exploit it but now it makes sense

[limber ridge]

just did a test , yes extrasensory does seee the hatch

[snow tusk]

More perks for Rats to find hatch with

[dry egret]

Does this tier list consider addons? Netflix Vecna has some very strong addons

[limber ridge]

with open handed it makes it better than left behind to

[ripe bison]

Putting ghosty above trapper is funny

[snow tusk]

Why new Vecna in D tier?

[dry egret]

Remember 60 second cooldown and 11 seconds of use

[void pasture]

40 second at max level

[snow tusk]

Omg you’re right ughhhhh

[snow tusk]

They’ll just save it to find hatch

[limber ridge]

60 ish meter range (with open handed) the limit and cooldown arent much of an issue and if you have urban evasion you can move quickly

[dry egret]

Wait you're right!

[echo oracle]

Cause hes really bad

[echo oracle]

Yes

[snow tusk]

Hey not everyone is a SB vigil user

[echo oracle]

Huh

[limber ridge]

the test match i did i ran urban, open handed, inner strength (as it can see totems) and extrasensory

[snow tusk]

And wait a while maybe there’s a new build someone hasn’t found yet and he turns out great

[dry egret]

Dawg it's been less than a day and you sound like it's set in stone 💀

[raw lotus]

I'm all ears:

[snow tusk]

Not all survivors uses SB?

[snow tusk]

The perk or you’re just saying that?

[raw lotus]

The perk. Amazing for all killers that are weaker with los breaks

And with vecna specifically, you can have a one-sided los break

[limber ridge]

i watching a youtuber he was saying that many fast killers like blight or ghoul can abuse secret project like crazy

[snow tusk]

Or Krasue after the undetectable proc with grim embrace

Hmmmmmmm

Wait……
Backpack build thrilling tremors and secret project lmfao

[echo oracle]

Hes bad now, he could get buffed

[echo oracle]

Thats not the issue

[limber ridge]

or any other perk that causes things, i actually think overture pairs well because if the abilities up you get the effects, if its taken out, thats another activation of secret project which is also why plaything and pentimento can work well to on the totem side

[snow tusk]

Is his M2 that avoidable?

[icy summit]

It's so funny watching Vecna's mori because my brain just automatically inserts Sadako's mori audio into it 😭

[snow tusk]

Overture is pretty buns

[stoic oasis]

That’s surprising! It makes Clairvoyance essentially useless

[open patrol]

Why does dustin GROW in a match is that to avoid pay to win or smth..?

[limber ridge]

but it works with secret project, if overture prots, that undetecable, if its cleared, you still get undetectable

[limber ridge]

that and left behind albeit left behind can be used while sprinting so not 100% useless

[icy summit]

Ya'll got any good builds for Vecna yet 👀

[snow tusk]

All survivors must be same model size. Also no kids are allowed to be killed in DBD so Dustin rn is canonically older

[snow tusk]

Ruin, Hivemind, ToTH, and Undying
Pain Res, DMS, secret project Grim Embrace

[fluid fern]

mindbreaker

[open patrol]

Yes but hes shorter then other male characters in the lobby so i think its an odd choice forhim to just grow taller in matches

[icy summit]

Will try it

[fluid fern]

otherwise get ready to watch SB invalidate you

[snow tusk]

He can keep his short and chubby charm in the lobby but gameplay wise he’s gotta be the same height

[open patrol]

OOOOH right makes sense

[snow tusk]

Blood echoes exists too 😔

Would Corrupt give a non stealth killer undetectable at the start of a match?

[raven flume]

Why is load times trying to get into a killer game so slow

[icy summit]

Wtf is with Dustin's hellfire shirt 😭

[analog orbit]

What the fuck is this tier list lol

[icy summit]

Never let bro cook again

[cunning canyon]

I think "we see you" should've been an invocation to where after the invo is used, the person who started it reveals the killers aura to everyone everytime survivors auras are revealed to the killer, the other hinder to this perk then just being injured would be when your aura is revealed its revealed twice as long or something and it goes away after you die or escape the trial

[echo oracle]

Current killer strengths

[analog orbit]

? What do you mean current killer strengths?

In what universe is chucky better than than singularity or kaneki

[snow tusk]

Are there any killer addons that blocks gens?

[void pasture]

GOD HIS M2 FUCKIGN SUCKS OMG

[snow tusk]

Kekw

[void pasture]

the radius being so small makes it so easy to dodge

[analog orbit]

Ghost face has one

[void pasture]

if they make any changes to his kit i beg that they buff his m2 in terms of radius it fucking needs it

[analog orbit]

Can you not frame trap?

[snow tusk]

Is that the only one? Cuz gf is a bad example for secret project

[analog orbit]

🤣😭

[void pasture]

yea but good survivors avoid throwing pallets and vaulting

and also having to rely primarily on frame traps to get hits is a poor design

[analog orbit]

So use that against them?

[cold sonnet]

Don't even try to understand

[void pasture]

and do what??? I get slowed when using the m2 so I lose distance, even if they avoid throwing pallets and windows it doesnt really matter since I have to just not use power to catch up

most matches his m2 is better used as a zoning tool which sucks because his entire kit is tied into actually hitting his m2's but theyre so fucking hard to hit due to the tiny ass radius

[echo oracle]

I didnt put them in any order

[analog orbit]

Also, Dracula not being in his supposed "S tier" and being the bottom of A is hilarious

[violet raven]

This is my 1st PTB, I will say this. The end game chat was all positive. So its them console folks that be spewing hate

[void pasture]

this is not at all accurate

[analog orbit]

I see, yeah, dracula is still better than every killer in your S tier outside of billy under conditions

[snow tusk]

Console players can type in endgame chat?💬

[void pasture]

yea that for starters lmfao

[strong edge]

Anyone know the release date of the chapter?

[snow tusk]

Jan 27th

[violet raven]

Really then ppl was chill today

[void pasture]

lowkey dnd vecna is better than this one

[strong edge]

Thx gotta know how long i got to save up bp

[violet raven]

They cant?

[void pasture]

nope

[minor laurel]

yeah part-time console player here, they can't.

[void pasture]

only pc users can. epic games and steam are considered 2 seperate platforms tho so if youve seen someone with a globe icon talking shit, theyre probably on the one you dont use

[violet raven]

I stand corrected

[strong edge]

I mean he is really not vecna, thats just what the kids named him

[void pasture]

yea ik lol

but people are still calling him that so i was just saying in terms of the 2, dnd is strogner than this one

sprint burst basically kills Creel

[strong edge]

I mean yea I basically forgot his name was Henry 😭

[void pasture]

his m2 radius is tiny asf, the range is long but that doesnt matter if the radius is shit

[snow tusk]

Never seen one type in my life

[void pasture]

his addons and perks are fun but he feels terrible to play in general

[zealous storm]

Had a thought.....Bada Boom & Champion of light = 70% hindered speed..... that trap could actually be a good counter against Legion, Myers, Wraith and others with Bam. Unless Frenzy doesn't trigger the trap, its a good counter especially against Finesse Myers.

Eleven's We See You, as is, will be wallhacks with Eyes of Belmont, Object of Obsession and Alert. Will strengthen both solo q and SWFs.

[cunning kelp]

Aura reading perks are insane with vecna

[snow tusk]

Anti bam perk finally

[cunning kelp]

It only hurts the weaker killers tho

[zealous storm]

Chem Trap + Bada Boom + Champion about to be meta af

[strong edge]

He is strong but lowkey easy to counter, just play unpredictable kinda like nurse but I do feel like once people get the hang of him he will be a very stronger killer. I dont feel like he is OP though just strong

[snow tusk]

Not meta lmao, only annoying

[zealous storm]

Everybody gonna run that build or the wallhacks build after PTB goes to live servers

[stoic oasis]

You could say that about most perks lol

[cunning kelp]

He feels like an A or A+ killer for me

More A since he’s 4.4

[strong edge]

Maybe A- or b+

[snow tusk]

And we’ll get Laurie perks for free so OOO and We See You meta

[zealous storm]

That's what I said above lol

[cunning kelp]

I hate that they renamed them tho💔

[hot lichen]

What does PTB mean?

[zealous storm]

Public Test Build

[snow tusk]

No one will run the complete hindered build cuz nurse exists in high elo

[cunning kelp]

Public test build

[zealous storm]

Basically beta testing for players on PC

[cunning kelp]

Steam to be specific

[strong edge]

I feel like all they gotta do is add a small cool down to his m2 and he will be golden

[hot lichen]

Ah, that figures. Ok thanks I was like hmm I thought ST was coming to DBD today.

[snow tusk]

Wait til the 27th boi o

[strong edge]

Mind i ask how you got the entity decoration?

[stoic oasis]

Everyone gets it in the PTB

[snow tusk]

Blight and Hivemind is gonna rip my buns anew

[strong edge]

How do you get the ptb version of dbd?

[stoic oasis]

Betas under Properties in Steam

[strong edge]

Alright i will look when I get home thx

[zealous storm]

Predictions for this chapter:

• Cooldown for Vecna's vine attack to make missing a bit more "punishing"

• Bada Boom nerf from 50% hindered to 20-30% hindered

• We See You cooldown from 10 seconds to 30 seconds

(Based on what I've seen so far)

[zealous storm]

It was a Discord quest last year

[cunning canyon]

Im so disappointed eleven didnt get a single invocation perk or some telekentic power, why does Dustin have more interesting eleven

[granite furnace]

the counterplay is kinda the same as nurse you need to avoid line of sight and like you said be very unpredictable

[strong edge]

Nah I kinda like the crouching, perk, but thats only because I always run meme builds with my friends

[stoic oasis]

I don’t think Bada Boom is that good lol. I highly doubt it will see much use, hence little need to nerf

[granite furnace]

they're saving the Telekenisis powers/perks for the star wars chapter trust

[cunning canyon]

Cooldown for vecnas vine attack gets nerfed, they give him add ons too decrease his cooldown, he stays busted

[cunning canyon]

I would rather have danganronpa then starwars

[zealous storm]

It's a pretty strong counter against killers who can vault quick like Myers, paired with Champion you're looking at 70% hindered. It's getting nerfed

[rigid axle]

pov: you didn't play as Vecna

[viral folio]

The exit gate glowing does appear when in worldbreaker, such a shame

[granite furnace]

the only 2 non-horror licenses i can accept are star wars and cyberpunk

[strong edge]

Yea lowkey not an OP killer, he is strong and will be very strong in the right hands but still has counterplay

[zealous storm]

Right now as is, him missing his M2 isn't very "punishing" as he can just spam it again. Survivor mains complain enough, BHVR nerfing that

[snow tusk]

Bada Bada boom doesn’t need an effect reduction it needs its condition requirement higher. Like 50% of a gen
Killers will just have to eat it or don’t

[stoic oasis]

Honestly, such a waste of two perk slots. It’s so situational. Play a map without many windows and both perks are essentially useless. Very few maps force window vaults. At most you will use it once during a game

[zealous storm]

I agree with this

[strong edge]

I like these changes, theres no punishment to missing his power just like huntress.

[cunning canyon]

Then killers complain again and dbd folds, like the slugging nerfs and the camping nerfs

[snow tusk]

Watch me edit my message rn and you’ll be agreeing to something controversial…

Jk I wouldn’t

[cunning canyon]

To be fair danganronpa is murder mystery which is a horror category

[zealous storm]

They also need to rework his Iri add ons, they are garbage. One of his Iris should have been:

Survivors start with 1 or 2 Worldbreaker tokens but Upside Down traversal recharge rate is 15-20% slower

[strong edge]

Henry is the first new killer added with good perks after 4 chapters and im so happy about it

[snow tusk]

Can’t we play new Vecna like Sadako???

[zealous storm]

Besides some MINOR cooldown tweaks, I think Vecna is in a great spot for a killer. But I fear he about to get the Krasue treatment

[strong edge]

No, you need 2 hook stages till you can mori

[zealous storm]

He feels like a hybrid of Freddy and Onryo as is

[stoic oasis]

You think Krasue has bad perks?

[snow tusk]

Still can tunnel no?

[granite furnace]

i have an idea

[snow tusk]

Camp to 2 hook stages mori them

[strong edge]

What i meant by that is reliable perks that you can get value out of every game.

[snow tusk]

Yes

[zealous storm]

Tunneling is gonna happen in this game, nothing is gonna change that and will just further break the game. BHVR wasted 2 months already testing all that.

[strong edge]

I mean any killer can camp and tunnel for a mori

[stoic oasis]

Krasue’s perks provide value every game lol

[granite furnace]

secret project + corrupt intervention + lethal pursuer + Hillbilly + apex muffler

[void pasture]

the distance loss from the slowdown when using his power + being 4.4 is punishing imo

[zealous storm]

Anti-camp and anti-tunneling perks already in game

[snow tusk]

With mini mori and such

[cold sonnet]

Approved

[void pasture]

the fact the actual power has such a small radius too

[strong edge]

Dude i mean perks you can just run without providing a build for them to get great value. Henry's perks you can just run

[granite furnace]

can someone please try this and send me a clip of your free instadown I'm trash at billy

[zealous storm]

With the range he can still hit, too many are gonna say thats not enough unfortunately

[cold sonnet]

Early morning roadkill billy

[void pasture]

and they dont get injured if they walk back into it like with hellfire

[ripe bison]

No postgame chat on PC can be notoriously bad sometimes. Probably a lot worse than console DMs. Its just in PTBs noone is trying too hard and are just having fun testing out the new content.

[void pasture]

range doesn't matter that much if the actual attakc itself is small

[ripe bison]

Ive been told to kill myself in all manner of ways just because the survivors dont understand how hag works

[rough swallow]

this is my first PTB anything i need to know?

[void pasture]

i mean it can help a little, but its not gonna do a whole whole lot

[stoic oasis]

Almost all of Vecna’s perks require other perks that synergize to work well LOL

[strong edge]

Thats the dbd community in a nutshell for ya

[void pasture]

his kit is only really good against new players tbh

[ripe bison]

Gotta find that one funny screenshot

[void pasture]

you can get some value against good players but generally speaking it just feels awful trying to use his power

[strong edge]

Only his hex protection one

[cold sonnet]

I had fun with his power

[stoic oasis]

All of his perks are ass unless your entire build revolves around them LOL

[strong edge]

Just give him time and keep practicing, playing any killer your are not familiar with is going to feel like hell

[void pasture]

if the radius was slightly bigger he'd be pretty good but you have to have an extremely high level of skill with his kit to get any value

[cold sonnet]

Feels insanely rewarding once you figure it out and know how to place through walls

[tall monolith]

He’s too powerful with not enough downsides

[void pasture]

be so fr rn

[stoic oasis]

Using random builds with periodic 10% gen loss or a 30 second gen block are useless

[fickle crane]

I love day one impressions there’s something kinda funny about the wide range of takes

[void pasture]

he's 4.4, gets slowed when using his m2 , and his actual attack radius is fairly small

[zealous storm]

I just saw a vault build for Vecna with his add on......110% vault speed ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️

Bada Boom is gonna be the best counter holy hell

[strong edge]

There is literally a perk that tells you the progress of every gen on the map just by hooking 1 survivor, thats going to be insane on blight, Billy, springtrap, Freddy

[limpid crag]

He's ass

[void pasture]

it feels like hell cuz it is

[ripe bison]

here we go

[snow tusk]

Does corrupt and secret project mean undetectable at the start of the game? If so insta down clown sounds funny

[void pasture]

the radius of the attack is so small you gotta be pixel perfect on the survivor for it to hit

[ripe bison]

one of my favorite post game interactions

[fickle crane]

Also remote Pop is remote Pop it feels incredible

[limpid crag]

I will not be sharing my opinion anymore and will not elaborate

[strong edge]

Its the ptb let them tweak him a little

[granite furnace]

yes that's exactly what it means

[hallow chasm]

I have yet to even see Last Stand let alone be stunned by it.

[void pasture]

yes thats what im hoping theyll do, and hopefully those tweaks are minor buffs and not nerfs

[granite furnace]

yes

[ripe bison]

Ive been stunned by it like twice and it was really funny both times

[icy summit]

I like how Vecna's Scion skin is literally just

[void pasture]

oh it says scion i thought it said son of the uspide down 😭

[hallow chasm]

The jumping animation looks so wonky.

[winged kraken]

where do we think vecna is on the tier list
im thinking below blight above twins

[granite furnace]

i don't understand why we didn't get mr whatsit and/or hawkins lab henry

[strong edge]

Im pretty sure they made him hard for a reason, he seems to have major potential same like nurse and blight. If they made him easy to play and understand then i mean just look at ghoul 🤣

[ripe bison]

Its recycled from the animation that plays when using Lara's perk.

[icy summit]

Close enough

[void pasture]

I mean theres hard and then theres this 😭

[signal lynx]

vecna is way to strong idk why people are saying hes high skill cieling. hes so easy to learn and just gives to many free wins

[icy summit]

I really want his season 4 appearence 💔

[limpid crag]

After less than 12 hours of play time I can comfortably out him in C tier

[granite furnace]

I need his lab outfit covered in blood

[prime vapor]

No new map either is crazy, but they updated Hawkins

[granite furnace]

the face he makes in that sequence is terrifying

[void pasture]

crazy thing is this didnt even come with the ptb

[strong edge]

Nah I freaking love this

[prime vapor]

They did tho idk what your talkin about sir

[ripe bison]

They didnt make a new map for Resident Evil when they added Wesker idk what you expected

[fickle crane]

High skill ceiling refers to the maximum potential the killer can reach. You might be thinking of skill floor, which is the minimum effort required to get something serviceable out of something

[void pasture]

what did they change with hawkins?

[stoic oasis]

That isn’t even that good lol. That’s designed for baby killers that can’t monitor gens on their own yet

[granite furnace]

going to try this despite the fact I don't play Billy

[strong edge]

Yea cant wait to try it

[void pasture]

cuz they had alrady changed the portal room prior to this ptb

[prime vapor]

Visuals and if you know clock, where 12 is has 2 staircases and lockers

[granite furnace]

Jamie Campbell bower the man that you are

[strong edge]

Brother if you dont see a single use out of any of his perks, im lowkey scared of what type of perk you want in the game

[icy summit]

I need him to voice Vecna in game please Behavior 💔

[snow tusk]

Wait… Lineup Larry Huntresses with Hex: Hivemind…..
Send in the orbitals, THIS IS AMERICA

[winged kraken]

it feels like freddy knowledge help with vecna 2 since both predict where survivors are gonna be to hit their power

[prime vapor]

Indeed

[ripe bison]

Last month they changed the portal room to have a second stairway on the opposite side in addition to some other stuff to create an actual loopable main building area. They also made it so more doors would start open at the start of the trial to make it easier to navigate the map.

[granite furnace]

he got leaked to be the voice for his legendary dw

[stoic oasis]

Who the fuck is going to use a hex that shows generator repair progress over a hex like Ruin, Blood Favour, Undying or Thrill?

[void pasture]

I meant with the ptb

[prime vapor]

Me

[grand apex]

so Vecna dont have M1,why would you M1 even with close range?

[ripe bison]

They didnt change anything about Hawkins in the PTB as far as Im aware?

[stoic oasis]

Most games it will get cleansed at 3 gens and have 0 values

[icy summit]

I just hope they change the default and hopefully season 4 appearance voice as well

[granite furnace]

if I get an indoors map im going to cry

[void pasture]

thats what I thought

[stoic oasis]

Then you’re making the shittier choice LOL

[prime vapor]

Not really, any info perk is useful

[granite furnace]

honestly at this point I don't think they can change his default voice unless it's a placeholder

[snow tusk]

Cuz info is important??? Why bother running blood favor if you never find a survivor to use it on

[icy summit]

They did it with Pinhead i dont see why not

[strong edge]

Because they will know instantly at the beginning of the game you have those then boom there gone before the first Gen pops. Now as of Henry's hex they wont know you have it and wont take the time to look for it

[granite furnace]

wait they did?

[stoic oasis]

Just patrol gens LOL. Play with your monitor on and the hex is useless

[icy summit]

Yeah. He used to be a random VA and then got changed to Doug Bradley

[stoic oasis]

If you can’t find a survivor, no perk will save you. Uninstall the game or just play survivor LOL

[limpid crag]

Wow what a bad take

[prime vapor]

It’s harder than you think to patrol gens often

[snow tusk]

Man never heard of pre running in his life

[stoic oasis]

Just learn survivor spawns. Or use corrupt, a much better perk and that will filter survivors to worse gens

[prime vapor]

Indeed

[strong edge]

Kinda hateful lowkey kinda already have a lot of that in the community so maybe read your own comment to yourself

[ripe bison]

Yeah he wasnt originally voiced by the actor. They got the actual actor who played him on board later down the line changed his voicelines.

[snow tusk]

Like he cares. He was spewing worse earlier

[ripe bison]

Theyre very very noticably different

[icy summit]

Anyone else notice that corrupt intervention auras are bugged? Might be the auras for every gen blocking but idk

[stoic oasis]

Then learn how to and use a better perk lol. It’s a perk designed for bad players

[lost aurora]

does anyone know why or how to fix the bug where dustins perk or elevens perks arent showing up on a different character?

[prime vapor]

Challenge bro, I want a challenge. Like damn, I use that perk cause I want a challenge it’s a bad perk but still

[strong edge]

I already know survivor spawns just saying it would be a great perk to run if you just chilling and not sweating

[stoic oasis]

It’s not. If you can’t do the very fundamental of the game, there is an issue

[ripe bison]

https://youtu.be/okllAPdv54A?si=Gl9NCsQeF_mmf1F4

[icy summit]

https://tenor.com/view/pinhead-gif-12271058872862377963

[strong edge]

Yea I believe it

[stoic oasis]

Then it isn’t a good perk. You can’t call it a good perk and then say it isn’t good if you try to win LOL

[icy summit]

God no shade towards the old VA but Doug Bradley is just so much better lmao

[stoic oasis]

So you’re saying you use the perk ‘cause it’s ass and it will make your life harder?

[strong edge]

Nah I fr dont care but maybe they did

[tall monolith]

Is there any hope for pinhead coming back

[lunar musk]

The new one is soo much better.

[prime vapor]

I don’t think so man

[worn bluff]

"Please BHVR, I need this (vecna nerf), my sable is kinda skill less!"

[icy summit]

No way of knowing

[stoic oasis]

Bad take that I’m saying killers should use their eyes? LOL

[prime vapor]

Buff vecna. Make him a 4.6

[ripe bison]

All it would take is Clive Barker approaching Behavior about it

I assume

[strong edge]

Nah im gonna run it, then I will show you it could be a powerful perk in the right hands (me)

[worn bluff]

okay firstly is that the dihhdevil? Also make his brown addons even stronger fr

[tall monolith]

I started playing after he got removed and after seeing gameplay he looks fun

[stoic oasis]

It will get cleansed at 4 gens then you will DC ‘cause you don’t know how to press the W key and look at gen progress regularly

[prime vapor]

That is Daredevil and secondly yes

[icy summit]

One good thing about Hive Mind is that it cant be cleansed immediately at the start of the match

[worn bluff]

*dihhdevil

[strong edge]

Hes brown add-ons are already pretty good, im lowkey surprised there brown

[prime vapor]

Jeff is that you

[worn bluff]

if they were iri I would've believed it 😭 🥀 💔 💀

[worn bluff]

ye

[icy summit]

Purple addon in disguise

[lunar musk]

Normally when I killer has a good brown addon that makes the power actually good or just a quality of life, they make it basekit or some part basekit

[strong edge]

Ok bud I dont dc, i would already expect it to get cleansed, it's a hex totem. It glows it goes

[prime vapor]

I’ve used that add on, but it’s very situational value, I don’t see using the upside down thing in chase

[fickle crane]

Honestly when I was playing with it, it didn’t feel that crazy. It didn’t come up all that often

[stoic oasis]

And then you have to deal with 4 gens normally. And that stage, you’re fucked. Use a perk that can’t get deactivated a minute into the game LOL

[icy summit]

If you center it on them perfectly when exiting its actually pretty hard for them to escape without getting hit

[fickle crane]

It can’t be deactivated a minute into the game. It’s a hex totem that doesn’t light until you hook a survivor

[prime vapor]

Idk man, any haste perk also counters that ability

[strong edge]

Yea they really do that a lot but I dont think they will make his base kit

[prime vapor]

But centering on them
For sure

[stoic oasis]

If your first down isn’t before a minute into the game, you aren’t playing well

[lunar musk]

No but maybe a toned down would be nice

[strong edge]

Wait if you think your fucked at 4 gens with 3 perks then maybe you should uninstall 😭😭😭

[icy summit]

Too bad we still dont have that for Demo though 🥀

[worn bluff]

Meanwhile everyone else's purple addon: "give 1% haste for 1 milisecond if you land your power within 1 meter of the survivors location 3 minutes ago"

[lunar musk]

Well a part of them became basekit but using the addons still feels too good to take off, cooldowns feel too long without them

[stoic oasis]

Your English comprehension is pretty ass. I articulated quite clearly that you in particular are fucked as you are unable to manage your generators without a baby perk

[prime vapor]

Vecna is B tier ngl, he can be good in the right hands

[worn bluff]

optimal ragebait:

[strong edge]

I never once said I needed the perk, I just said it seems like a good perk

[subtle zephyr]

Dawg not every killer can do well with 3 perks

[stoic oasis]

If you think it’s good, you are a baby killer

[fickle crane]

I mean some killers take a bit longer. Singularity wants to set pods, Hag might be setting up her web, Vecna 2 needs to get 4 hits to down with the first use of his power, a lot of killers may take a while to get their first hook and that’s not necessarily a problem

[strong edge]

I mean maybe

[prime vapor]

What, b tier isn’t a good spot for him?

[strong edge]

Thats really not how that works

[subtle zephyr]

Dawg what are his add-ons?

The fuck is this two charge vine attack one

[fickle crane]

I will very tentatively say A but first impressions really should be taken with a grain of salt

[worn bluff]

wtf vecna have you been playing? His counterplay is pray you win the 50-50 dodge. Pretty much a ranged nurse imo

[subtle zephyr]

Bluds been playing the DND one

[granite furnace]

yeah he's just ranged nurse

[prime vapor]

Well I’ve been getting 4K consistently, yes 50-50 but I win most of them

[strong edge]

B+ averagely A+ for a skilled player

[prime vapor]

Agreed now

[icy summit]

He just released and people are already saying he has no counterplay

[stoic oasis]

That is an issue. That is the main reason why Trapper is D tier LOL

[subtle zephyr]

Clearly they haven't heard of running away

[tribal pond]

You are not Otzdarva

[fickle crane]

Singularity takes time to set up, and it’s one of the strongest killers in the game. Having a slow start isn’t necessarily a bad thing. It can be, but not necessarily

[strong edge]

Love the reference 😭

[stoic oasis]

That’s 1/40 killers of whom is an exception lol

[worn bluff]

Well BHVR is gonna (slightly) nerf vecna in like a week so the community says that they're doing something for once, (but still gonna be S tier) and after 2 months they're gonna balance him after they get their optimal sale goal

[subtle zephyr]

Singularity is a very strong killer

[tribal pond]

Thank ya

[fickle crane]

I just used it as an example of how some killers, despite having a slow start, can still be strong. Plague, Oni, and Nemesis are other similar examples of decent-to-strong killers who fit a similar bill

[prime vapor]

I went up against a amazing swf and damn they dodged all of them

[tribal pond]

So does Vecna release 27th

[strong edge]

Yes

[tribal pond]

Damn

[subtle zephyr]

That's it...that's the counterplay..."moving out of the damn way"

[tribal pond]

20 days

[subtle zephyr]

But yet people don't comprehend that

[prime vapor]

They don’t bro

[warm barn]

Vecna is that you?!

[strong edge]

Fr every new chapter they scream "nerf" literally after there first game

[subtle zephyr]

Yeah mate I'm in DBD now came to celebrate how ya doing

[tribal pond]

That’s Henry Creel

[prime vapor]

Vecna is very skill based

[warm barn]

He is same person is he not?

[raven flume]

The ctrl ain skill tho

[subtle zephyr]

This is why Trapper got fucked in the ass by nerfs

[warm barn]

Springtrap here too?!

[tribal pond]

Yes

[prime vapor]

Daredevil is here too

[warm barn]

Must be a killer gathering

[tribal pond]

P100 glitch trap

[strong edge]

Springtrap main here tooo

[warm barn]

Bada Bada Boom going to be fun perk to use

[subtle zephyr]

Artist main

[tribal pond]

✌️🥹

[warm barn]

And change of plans

[prime vapor]

W main

[fickle crane]

Common misconception it’s Vecna from DnD and Vecbuh from ST

[subtle zephyr]

Thank you kindly

[tribal pond]

Eh it’s good if your good

[prime vapor]

Don’t mention it sir

[snow tusk]

I can’t wait for Undergate only Vecnas and it’ll be with venom (Eminem) in the background

[tribal pond]

B+ in my opinion

[subtle zephyr]

I'd say I'm fairly good I'm consistent with my snipes

[prime vapor]

Skill is the only word Il say to every killer in this game

[tribal pond]

Anyway I’m gonna go play Bonelab

[strong edge]

A+ if its a skilled player

[tribal pond]

Yah but vecna seems S- in his current state

[subtle zephyr]

Skill for killers is not a fathomable idea to survivors it's either "haha noob" or "fucking tunneler"

[strong edge]

Now the name makes sense. Insane LORE

[prime vapor]

Yea your right 😔

[tribal pond]

Ikr I’ve got so many code mods

[strong edge]

Yea he is definitely strong

[subtle zephyr]

I also enjoy Deathslinger because I like cowboys

[strong edge]

Well enjoy your bonelab friend

[stiff token]

How does nemesis feel with the changes

[strong edge]

I used to be one hell of a deathslinger main

[tribal pond]

Still don’t know how that one guy made an insanely good multiplayer mod by himself

[subtle zephyr]

What are his best add Ons?

[rich nacelle]

the nemesis change is only 2v8

[strong edge]

His reload add-ons

[subtle zephyr]

Cuz I swear I can't find any good ones

[tribal pond]

I used to main Demo and Drac

[subtle zephyr]

Demo got fucking buried 6 feet under unfortunately

[tribal pond]

In PTB?

[strong edge]

BHVR PLEASE REWORK DEATHSLINGERS ADD-ONS 😭😭😭

[tender flame]

I think vecna needs a range penalty or a downtime to his abilities if he keeps missing

[subtle zephyr]

Nah in general.. people don't like Demo that much from what I hear

[granite furnace]

well here's hoping Jamie redubs him because he's so good as vecna

[tribal pond]

Why he’s so cute

[subtle zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/piccolo-speed-ishowspeed-please-i-need-this-trying-not-to-laugh-gif-17435075734837336896

[strong edge]

We need a dead meat chapter😔 (if you know you know)

[subtle zephyr]

PLEASE BHVR I NEED THIS

But no fr we need Deathslingers add Ons reworked

[subtle zephyr]

peak

[strong edge]

Deathslingers kinda weak

[subtle zephyr]

I know I was agreeing with you lol

[tribal pond]

I really think that vecna should of had his actual powers and you could go in upside down

Still cool asf tho

[subtle zephyr]

Let's talk about the fact that while he's traversing he can go through pallets and doors 🙏

And when he comes up you just give him a addon that just fucking blows up pallets and gens

[tribal pond]

Long delay tho? Don’t get me started on Pizza goggles add on 😭

[strong edge]

I was making the "my mama's kinda homeless" reference

[subtle zephyr]

Oh my bad my bad

But no fr show our favorite cowboy some love BHVR

[tribal pond]

💮 I’ve never seen this emoji

[subtle zephyr]

Also you Springtrap mains have my utmost fucking respect 🙂‍↕️ I love Spring Boi

[prime vapor]

Anyone wana play DBD ptb?

[strong edge]

I just say maybe a 7 second or 5 would be nice like dracs cool down

[strong edge]

Thank you kind sir

[subtle zephyr]

Dawg I don't have the PTB I'm a switch player

[tribal pond]

Bonnie’s guitar is his best add on even tho it’s just a perk now

[cursive kestrel]

Vecna fucking slams in Gideon's meatplant

[subtle zephyr]

Do not remind me lol

[strong edge]

I been practicing with Freddy's top hat so I can hit over medium sized loops

[ripe bison]

Both Vecnas being really good on gideons is really funny

[void pasture]

My main issue with his kit is it takes so much fucking effort to get an injure

[subtle zephyr]

I hear a add on on him is getting buffed actually it's confirmed

[celest hare]

Are there any other new Nancy enthusiasts

[sly copper]

did they rework nancy’s face? 😰

[cursive kestrel]

mb gang

[ripe bison]

Yeah

[subtle zephyr]

Yes...yes they did...

[sly copper]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

[tribal pond]

That one vecna perk with dms is crazy

[subtle zephyr]

Turn Back The Clock?

[sly copper]

MY GIRL NANCYUUU NOOOOOOOOO

[cursive kestrel]

It's actually so fun to play with Vecna

[tribal pond]

You definitely already new

[ripe bison]

Its funny. People were complaining about her face a lot last month and now that theyve changed it people are upset

[celest hare]

Not only was Nancy's old model dated but the lobby animations were stiff as FUCKKK

[sly copper]

wdym?

[tribal pond]

Yes

[shy idol]

How dare the ptb break the best character in the entire game (Sadako)

[ripe bison]

OK but funny tpose

[subtle zephyr]

This is why I'm getting Deathslinger and Vecna bro

[sly copper]

i thought Nancy looked great

[celest hare]

She had a weird resting pose and her hands rubbing her arms or whatever you'd call it looked gremlin-y

[celest hare]

I think great but dated kinda

[sly copper]

she looked good enough for me to main her 💔

[ripe bison]

Probably a vocal minority that was complaining about it? Her model was really dated regardless. Like, the model itself not the portrait render

[livid coral]

Girl whatever

[void pasture]

Like I mean first you gotta land enough hits to get in worldbreaker mode and his power is already hard enough to hit as is, and that just gives you the ability to actually injure with him. On top of that the clocks remove like 75% of the total duration from worldbreaker mode which is so much to take away for something that takes so little effort.

His traversal is kinda nice in terms of speed but it has a hefty cooldown + the attack that goes with it is terrible since you get stuck in place at the last second which usually gives survivors enough time to outrun it.

[cursive kestrel]

Imagine going into 2v8 and you see a Demogorgan and Vecna

[celest hare]

Just try and get used to it I think it very much looks like Nancy

Her eyes and stuff

[subtle zephyr]

Peak

[sly copper]

yeah i think there’s a lot of mixed opinions

[livid coral]

So, did the Entity weaken Eleven?

[icy summit]

Her face looks much better in a match

[celest hare]

This is probably what every reworked character face went through though

[drowsy citrus]

It takes exactly 40s to double a gen with both running Deja Vu, Teamwork: Soft-Spoken, Teamwork: Full Circuit and one running Prove Thyself and the other Friendly Competition cuz its base +26% before Friendly meaning the -15% from doubling turns into +11% then +16% with Friendly and +66% with Commodius and +116% with Socket Swivels and Clean Rag or you could do BNP with Wire Spool

Would BNP + Wire Spool be better than Socket Swivel + Clean Rag?

[sly copper]

I’ve seen the model and i think they just need to make her cheeks a little less puffy

[void pasture]

It’s kinda the same thing I dislike about Krasue, having to rely on reaching [x] condition to actually be able to injure with your power just feels awful to use generally, especially when it’s already hard to hit with it like Creel’s is

[sly copper]

this relieves me

[livid coral]

I think the eyes are the problemtbh

[celest hare]

It does slightly look like that at first but it doesn't at all for me anymore

[sly copper]

ohh good

[drowsy gull]

So does object of obsession work with We See You? Or does the kller have to be the one doing the revealing?

[ripe bison]

How would that work flavorwise though? Demo's power is making portals to the upside down and traversing the upsidedown between portals to roam the map. Vecna forces survivors into the upsidedown

[celest hare]

I think the jump is just jarring and that's it

[void pasture]

It does work

[cursive kestrel]

I managed to get a few cheeky hits through walls with his movement ability in Gideon's meatplant

[drowsy gull]

Thank you!

[sly copper]

i don’t play ptb but i do watch it, vecna’s power looks so powerful

[celest hare]

And her character portrait render thing looked ass at first but it looks okay now, still odd

[void pasture]

It’s not as powerful as it looks

[fickle crane]

I think in my experience, getting hits with the power isn’t that bad. I think it’s just going to be one of those things that’s time and practice

[sly copper]

o nevermind then lol

[void pasture]

It’s such a small radius and survivors dodge it almost everytime

[tender flame]

Not really she still has powers in terms of perks

[ripe bison]

oh yeah I need to test out cybil and see her fixed face

[subtle zephyr]

Face The Darkness is a banger on Vecna cuz it works no matter what power u use to injure a survivor

[fickle crane]

Not in my experience

[haughty hazel]

just got hard tunneled in the PTB :0 who does that???

[sly copper]

eleven’s model looks really good

[void pasture]

that plus it has no lingering effect like with dracs hellfire, I mean if they walk back into it they don’t get hit by it even if it’s still present which sucks

[void pasture]

Was it from the get go or were y’all down to 2 gens or something?

[celest hare]

The hits thing I feel like how it'll go is some killers hit a lot more but also still unavoidably miss because it's kinda random-y but you can increase the chances by predicting better and whatever right?

[livid coral]

The Void powers yeah, just not in the physical plane like telekinesis

[celest hare]

Bad Vecna's will hit a lot less

[void pasture]

Well then you must be a fucking god or something

[cursive kestrel]

Demo is gonna have to go back home whenever the survivors are forced into the upside down

[celest hare]

I know it sounds obvious but 😭

[livid coral]

I'd have given her an exhaust perk 😩

[haughty hazel]

from the get go would only focus on one of my teammates until they died and then on me. 3 gens left…

[void pasture]

shrug, probably just wanted a kill fast

[echo oracle]

Fuck stranger things vecna im playing dnd vecna in the ptb

[cursive kestrel]

Sick bastard

[fickle crane]

I don’t think so. I think Vecna’s power is just one that makes sense to me. It’s also the exact kind of power that I’ve wanted for years so maybe it’s just one of those things where some powers click for some people but not for others

[void pasture]

So then how do you hit the attacks?

[echo oracle]

Why on earth would i want to play the new vecna who sucks

[subtle zephyr]

Both Vecnas are absolutely insane

[void pasture]

Because almost every time I try the survivors just dodge it

[celest hare]

Eleven has a voiceline "Mike... I miss you" on hook btw

[echo oracle]

the new one is ass

[void pasture]

Nothing I do works aside from going for it at anim lock moments

[granite furnace]

someone should draw both vecnas kissing

[echo oracle]

You dont, vecna only works on idiot survs

[subtle zephyr]

If ur skilled he's good

[livid coral]

Me when I lie lol

[echo oracle]

i am skilled, stranger things vecna sucks

[subtle zephyr]

However the counterplay to him is unfortunately just walking away

[echo oracle]

thats his exact issue

in order to counter the next vecna you can just hold w

[fickle crane]

I haven’t had enough time with it to explain it better than place it under where I predict the survivor is going to move. You can spam the power so frequently that you can often get a good sense as to how each individual survivor will try to dodge

[void pasture]

Well clearly you’re doing something different because I do that and nine times out of ten they somehow just dodge it

[haughty hazel]

imagine playing a killer for less than a day and deciding the kit sucks. thats not just a skill issue thats a brain issue.

[limber ridge]

do street wise and change of plan work together? like take scavenger grab the toolbox affected by streetwise and convert it to a medkit, does it keep the streetwise effect?

[echo oracle]

hes ass and shouldnt have been added

[void pasture]

Imagine playing a killer for less than a day and deciding the kit is busted

[fickle crane]

Idk he kind of has the exact kind of power I’ve always wanted so I’m happy for his inclusion

[haughty hazel]

unfortunately literally noone gaf about ur opinion

[livid coral]

Would've been cool if he could put one survivor in a trance and haunt them like in the show 🙇🏻‍♂️

[haughty hazel]

when did i say he was busted? i just said its not fair to make calls on that yet.

[echo oracle]

to be counterable?

[edgy nymph]

I agree

[fickle crane]

To designate an area on the ground and cause damage to happen there

[echo oracle]

You have ghostface as a pfp shut your ass up

[void pasture]

I didn’t claim you did, but others have been saying he’s very good and my point was just if they can believe that, I can believe he’s bad

[haughty hazel]

bro you cannot want to be taken seriously with fucking eepy as your name

[echo oracle]

i mean thats cool but its just so counterable

[livid coral]

Get over yourself goddamn

[celest hare]

Predict the holding W

[void pasture]

If it was a larger radius or it had a lingering effecr(like hellfire attack on drac) I’d say it’s good

[echo oracle]

[fickle crane]

Basically every power is counterable. You just gotta learn the killer to know how to play around the counter

[celest hare]

It's true though, you should be trying to predict it

[echo oracle]

Imma do what i want

[echo oracle]

You have the worst slasher oat as your pfp/most thirsted over shush

[livid coral]

Try wanting to shut the hell up lol

[haughty hazel]

i dont get why people are so upset that a counter to the killer is holding w as if holding w isnt a counter to like half the cast

[void pasture]

Because its boring

[echo oracle]

You first

[void pasture]

For both sides

as survivor it’s not fun to just hold w and ignore everything, and as killer it’s not fun to be unable to really do much because they’re just running forward

[haughty hazel]

brother i get you have an anime profile picture but thats just my halloween costume. most of us dont live on discord. and really??? “eepy” what are you 15

[livid coral]

Ignore him lol

[haughty hazel]

if you dont enjoy the chapter just dont play it but quit being so miserable. theres a really fun game yall should try called indeed.com

[void pasture]

You’re both stupid for trying to clown each other over meaningless bullshit, hope this helps

anyways moving on

[echo oracle]

First game on

[void pasture]

people like that should be permabanned from the game #lowkey

I’m being a little dramatic but no seriously people like that are so pathetic 😭

[echo oracle]

People who leave against a killer? Yea

[void pasture]

People who expect everyone playing killer on the ptb to play the new one or they’ll dc

[echo oracle]

Ikr? Its happened twice now

Im just doing it cause dnd vecna is sm better then stranger things vecna in everyway

[fickle crane]

I wouldn’t really say they’re that comparable. They just share a name

[echo oracle]

Stranger things vecna brings shame to the vecna name

[formal cobalt]

I actually feel like starnger things vecna is high a tier no?

[haughty hazel]

when played well

[worn bluff]

wait would thrilling tremors and secret project be good on vecna? I just thought of the idea

[haughty hazel]

ive lowk been going against some people getting the hang of venca and hitting some NASTY predictions

[mild mural]

why does vecna fly?

[celest hare]

Exactly

I hope it's not quite like aura nurse though

[winged kraken]

hot take: it might be worse

cause vecna 2 taps easier

[celest hare]

Eh idk aura nurse sees you and no matter what injures you

Really??

[winged kraken]

and is punished way less

[haughty hazel]

if anything i equate it more to aura pyramid head. which its cool to have a killer whos kit is literally the fun part of pyramid head’s

[celest hare]

Yeah true in a way but it's not really reactable like that

[haughty hazel]

u just gotta predict the predictor ig

[worn bluff]

how to counter vecna: pray to God 😭 🥀

[spice laurel]

From what I can tell, the best way to counter Vecna is to do stranger things than one would expect a survivor to do, and also just avoid vaults unless you need to use one

[gaunt kelp]

how do i play ptb

[spice laurel]

Are you on PC? Because that's the first thing you need to do

[gaunt kelp]

yea i am

[spice laurel]

Alright, do you play using Steam?

[gaunt kelp]

yea

[spice laurel]

Ok go to Dbd's properties and then click the Betas section

[gaunt kelp]

where

is it in saved

[limber tiger]

How are yall enjoying the ptb?

[gaunt kelp]

im in my files

[limber tiger]

$ptb

[dusty edge]

Learn about PTBs here: :link: https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/kb/articles/358-ptbs

[limber tiger]

This will help

[spice laurel]

I'm enjoying it

[limber tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/vecna-stranger-things-vecna-vecna-stranger-things-stranger-things-5-stranger-things-tv-gif-17978301423799357979

[spice laurel]

Vecna is pretty strong with his vine attack but is balanced out by the fact the vine attack from leaving the Upside Down is really hard to hit

[gaunt kelp]

is there a code?

[limber tiger]

Yeah, just gotta hold w

[spice laurel]

I have not hit it once

[haughty hazel]

$ptb

[gaunt kelp]

it said invalid

[haughty hazel]

no im referencing the article that was posted that will explain this

[gaunt kelp]

bro i donmt understand this im dumb can i get a step to step im in the betas tab

[haughty hazel]

the step by step is the article

[celest hare]

I think survivors can make it impossible to hit in open areas

[gaunt kelp]

it ends on the beta tab

[spice laurel]

Go to Steam, go to library, click DBD, click the gear and then properties, then click Betas and then the drop-down menu called Beta Participation, it's there

[celest hare]

I don't really see it as meant to hit survivors that much

Indoor maps it'd prob suck tho lol

[spice laurel]

Yeah

[gaunt kelp]

aight so what do i do after that

[ripe bison]

vine is an insane antiloop though

[haughty hazel]

bruh

[gaunt kelp]

do i just load game

[spice laurel]

Click the only other option than "None"

[gaunt kelp]

aight thanks do i just load now

[spice laurel]

Yeah, and the vines can actually hit multiple survivors at once, my last match I played I downed to survivors with one vine attack

[gaunt kelp]

ur a bully😭

[limber tiger]

download the update and play after its done

[gaunt kelp]

aight

[celest hare]

Undetectable nurse's calling....

I love how different the new killer is

[haughty hazel]

only when its justified <3

[gaunt kelp]

bruu chill pit iots my first time

[spice laurel]

It was especially crazy since I hit them through the wall on the other side of a vault and it was right outside the house with the basement in it

I already had one guy down there as well

[haughty hazel]

vecna can hit some crazy shots on Midwich through the floor

[spice laurel]

Seriously it's crazy how you can use the vines through walls and from a different floor, like if someone is on a balcony while you're on the ground you can put the vines on the balcony from down below

The cool down for the vines is pretty short too

[haughty hazel]

I don’t know maybe I’m crazy but playing as and against Vecna is really fun and that’s all that matters because it’s a game at the end of the day

[spice laurel]

Agreed

[amber sage]

guys

where do i report a bug from the ptb

[celest hare]

Guys I am in love with this ptb I want to marry this ptb

Steve's face should've gotten reworked too but oh well

[wild plover]

Did they rework Nancy's face? I haven't had a chance to check it yet

[celest hare]

Yeppp it's jarring at first but trust me it's so good after a bit

[stuck coral]

how do i get into ptb

[formal cobalt]

She doesnt look like a goblin anymore 😭

[celest hare]

The portrait render looks odd though but so did her old one compared to her old look

Eddie, baby...

[raven flume]

What's our thoughts on vecnas voice lines

[bronze perch]

I thought they were temporary ptb versions?

[winged kraken]

you are no hero, eddie

[celest hare]

WHA like they'd put that amount of effort in temporary voicelines 😭

[celest hare]

That is so disturbing and depressing bruh

[iron zinc]

Yea, they do this sometimes, just like Pinhead in PTB, they commisioned some VA to make pinhead voice, later on they reached out the Actor who made the role of pinhead at the first movie.

[bronze perch]

No I dont mean I thought it based on the voice lines lmao, I just heard it somewhere 😭

[raven flume]

Never heard anything about that honestly

[zealous storm]

#bug-reports <<<<<

[celest hare]

Didn't the licence holders just complain and it was meant to be permanent 😭 or is that silly cause they would've known beforehand not to

[bronze perch]

Jamie Campbell bowers liked a tweet about him voicing vecna in dbd so it seems like he's willing.
The survivors are confirmed to have voicelines that just arent in the ptb though so I'm wondering if Vecna's might change when he goes live too or if they might change later

[iron zinc]

I have no clue if is temp or perm, I'm just saying that they already did this one time.

And usually the VA they commision don't recive a background context of their lines.

[winged kraken]

vecna 2 feels like one of those killers that can sweep teams really fast, but if you keep missing your attacks your attacks its gonna get in your head and make you play worse

like deathslinger if you keep missing your shots

[wanton coral]

Do you have to be idle crouching for extrasensory to work or can it pair with urban evasion?

[winged kraken]

works while moving

[warm pike]

Thoughts on vecna? The super meat boy one

[wanton coral]

Ayo, pebble tech just got buffed

[wintry sable]

Vecna needs a longer cooldown on everything 😭 especially the world breaker mode

[wanton coral]

Vecna needs faster use of his power, very easy to zone in on him and cancel the power entirely

Maybe faster use but longer cool down

[wintry sable]

This I agree on

[warm pike]

Hello little うさぎ

[wanton coral]

His emergence from the upside down could be half a second faster too, though too fast would make it too op

[iron zinc]

Bro is capable of creating tectonic plate motion on the Trial by just spamming 😭

[wintry sable]

Literallyyy lmfao

[celest hare]

I love you, Nancy face update

I LOVE going against Vecna but it might change if I ever face an absolutely insane one 😭

[muted spindle]

What is vecna walk speed?

[wanton coral]

I think after the ptb and vecna gets his adjustments he'll be an A tier killer

[celest hare]

4.4m/s pretty sure* lol

[muted spindle]

Does he have voice lines?

[celest hare]

I reckon?? I autopilot typed that mb lol
Yes and for each ST character

[muted spindle]

I think they will def slow down his ability or how fast you can shoot them back to back

[celest hare]

And every ST character maybe except the og not sure, should have lines

[fading plaza]

he has voice lines, and specific voice lines when moring the ST cast

[muted spindle]

I really hope they touch up on demodo dog

[muted spindle]

Even screaming Steve? Cause I hate them sm

[wanton coral]

I think his ability speed needs increased but the cool down increased as well, cause its very easy to zone into him when hes using his power and just counter it entirely

[fading plaza]

He has a line for steve, what exactly it is i don't remember

[muted spindle]

Ima be real screaming Steve isn’t funny

[celest hare]

Some of the lines are damn depressing

[celest hare]

For noobs and noobs exclusively lol, noobs to it

[muted spindle]

Fr

[ripe bison]

Screaming Kates are funnier

[snow tusk]

Is there a single hex perk that after being cleansed relight itself?

[muted spindle]

Haven’t heard one yet

[celest hare]

They gotta make the particle effect around Vecna's eyes like, relative to the model and not the environment. Looks goofy

[snow tusk]

No right?

[ripe bison]

Scene partner Sheva is one of the funniest things in the game period

[muted spindle]

There’s is a perk that can allow to relit stuff I believe?

[snow tusk]

Hex Pentimento doesn’t count

[ripe bison]

Undying

[oak zealot]

Waiting 10-20mins for a killer game

[ripe bison]

Technically Face the Darkness relights itself

It deactivates and reactivates over and over again until its cleansed

[muted spindle]

How old is Dustin in dbd cause I thought he was like 16 in season 5?

[snow tusk]

Right. Saw some comments about Hivemind being the same tho I know that’s wrong

[snow tusk]

Canonically has to be aged up else be violating something

[ripe bison]

No hivemind is different

[snow tusk]

First hooking period yes?

[ripe bison]

it doesnt light until the condition is fullfilled. Face turns on when the condition is fullfilled, but also turns off after a condition