ptb-discussion

[calm wagon]

streetwise is crazy im telling you

[grave pier]

in ideal conditions fs

[calm wagon]

yeah but it takes a bit of luck

[grave pier]

if you bring a rummage perk it's basically garunteed though

[simple edge]

Ohh yeah im excited to see how Insidious is gonna be used now

[grave pier]

or wait, pharmacy, duh

[weary pilot]

Appraisal shouldn't be limited in how many times you can rummage a chest, I want to be able to be Santa and give out my gifts

[grave pier]

infinite charges but you run the risk of getting stabbed by a dirty needle and becoming broken for your next 15 games

[weary pilot]

Damn

[grave pier]

But you can counter it with the professional dumpster diver perk that grants you gloves

And allows you to hide inside chests and then head on killers, making them dc

[grave crown]

0.001% to find a glock-19 in a chest

[weary pilot]

Enduring + Leopard Print Fabric may be the way for Pyramid Head after the changes go live.

+15% resistance from addon + (+50%) resistance from Enduring potentially creates an unwinnable situation for the survivor in chase

[grave pier]

Another survivor has to find the bullets though, same odds

[grave crown]

fr

[grave pier]

Honestly good, I want anti loop to mean that the survivor literally gets vaporized if they even think about looping

add on spirit fury and hubris on top of that

[spice violet]

so why did they gut Franklin's

[lone spoke]

How do you get the auric cells?

[spice violet]

inbox

[grave pier]

Guess it was too.. inconvenient for survivors?

[lone spoke]

Thank you king and or queen

[fallow cypress]

Has anyone else had this issue where none of your data has transferred from live to ptb. Even though your accounts have been linked before July 1st

[grave pier]

I haven't heard a single person give me a legit reason besides not wanting to lose their items

Honest to god maybe they nerfed it for the ptb so killers don't run it against the new items

[spice violet]

my guess is because they dont know how to make it work with the new key and map charges and just gave up

[grave pier]

Many people have, me included

just uninstalled the ptb, no point in testing stuff entirely perkless lmao

[spice violet]

wait the ptb has 0 progress

[fallow cypress]

I’ve contacted bhwr support but I doubt I’ll get a answer before ptb is over

[grave pier]

It's a bummer I would've liked to test the new PH but I'm not grinding out a bunch of addons on ptb

[grave pier]

It has the same progress you had last ptb

[fallow cypress]

Luckily I mainly play on Xbox and have the live version already installed so I’ll just play on Xbox till I get a answer or till it’s over

[grave pier]

So for anyone who joined for springtrap or just didn’t have those killers leveled you just don’t have anything from the past month

[spice violet]

oh then i still have p3 everyone but springtrap

[grave pier]

Yeah no for anyone who’s played the game a while it’s a non issue

That, and had enough bloodpoints saved up a month ago

[forest umbra]

Overwhelming presence is so good now

[fallow cypress]

Yeah I have no progress for my account on ptb. So I’m not bothering to try it out as there’s no point with no progress or perks at all

[grave pier]

Finally, all the exhaust addons have a point if they’re not running exhaustion perks

[weary pilot]

Overwhelming Presence has now become the killer version of Rapid Response

[crude dirge]

how do i get access to ptb

[grave pier]

Are you on steam

[weary pilot]

You must be on PC and download the PTB

[crude dirge]

yes

[grave pier]

Right click game go to properties then beta

[spice violet]

if Franklin cant drain items it should block them from being picked up for 2mins

[grave pier]

Drop down, click ptb, it will download

[grave pier]

Truth nuke

[weary pilot]

It should just reduce item charges to 25% minimum

[crude dirge]

ty babes

[spice violet]

it shouldn't have gotten nerfed, i bet they nerfed it because they didn't know how to make it work with the new map and key charges and smoke bomb

[bronze steeple]

How do you get the 12500 auric cells for the ptb?

[spice violet]

inbox

[autumn mirage]

How long PTB lasts? I am busy today until night

[fickle dome]

Ptbs generally last a week

So until the 14th or 15th i assume

[autumn mirage]

First one i am in, that sounds so good

[sonic skiff]

why is singularity the only killer effected by the smoke vial, is it a bug?

[spice violet]

are you playing killer

[sonic skiff]

i tested all los related powers with a freind and singularitys is the only one blocked by it

[spice violet]

oh i thought you meant the smoke straight up didn't appear, yeah probably abug

[sonic skiff]

i really hope so

it would be a massive nerf if it was intentional

[spice violet]

does it block killer instinct

[sonic skiff]

i tested with twins and victor still proced killer instinct in the smoke

[spice violet]

then just like 2v8 its useless

[sonic skiff]

i wouldnt call it useless

its a great counter to aura perks

honestly its good that it doesnt effect killers powers

there shouldnt be items than can counter an entire killers power

[spice violet]

killer powers shouldn't nullify items either

[sonic skiff]

i cant think of a killer power that would nullify it tho

its not intended to block killer instinct

[spice violet]

The Legion, GF, Twins, Nemesis, Wesker

Vecna

[sonic skiff]

yes its not intended to block killer instinct

aura and killer instinct are 2 diffirent things

[grave pier]

Yeah killer instinct is meant to be unblockable that’s the whole idea of it

[spice violet]

i get that, but because i can see you in it the item is useless

It was useless in 2v8 it'll be useless here too lmao

[sonic skiff]

you can see people through walls with killer instinct, that doesnt mean walls are useless

[spice violet]

even without killer instinct if ur in the smoke you csn see the survivors in it

[sonic skiff]

yes because its not ment to be a complete vision blocker

its intended to avoid chase not help with chase

[spice violet]

So its useless, only has very very niche aura blocking which lockers exists

[fickle crane]

I find it so funny how much people were doomsaying about the Pyramid Head nerfs and it's just this

[spice violet]

thats pretty substantial, his zoning wasn't an issue

[sonic skiff]

its not as bad but i still dont like the change on paper. i havent tested much tho

[sonic skiff]

not at all

its a perfect counter to perks like bbq

[fickle crane]

It's not nothing, but there were people suggesting that Punishment of the Damned wouldn't be useful at all anymore

[spice violet]

my point is why are we nerfing weak killers

[fickle crane]

Pyramid Head?

[sonic skiff]

weak???

[tepid wharf]

a

[spice violet]

Hes not that strong, i can get behind cage bt. but there are many many killers that need nerfs before him

[sonic skiff]

he is really strong

[raven flume]

hiiii

[spice violet]

no he isnt lmao, his whole power is negated by a side step or looping wide

[delicate cliff]

the vaulting perk is cool but honestly I dont see how this will work for non-swf match lol

[tepid wharf]

a

[sonic skiff]

its just a counter to killers hitting people after a vault

pretty much just rewarding poor pathing

[delicate cliff]

I mean I just tested it few matches, and it does nothing like that. You have to be outside of chase for it to activate

[sonic skiff]

no?

[spice violet]

i think conviction will be busted with plot twist

[sonic skiff]

it works in chase

[delicate cliff]

it literally says "while not in chase"

[sonic skiff]

it charges while not in chase

like pebble

[delicate cliff]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaah, I see. Too many commas, brain goes haywire

[mint salmon]

Hey stupid question how would you enter the play test?

[spice violet]

understanding perk descriptions is like playing yugioh

[hidden dune]

This mentality is just from people who haven’t faced a good pyramid head. Punishment can hit good survivors when the killer knows how to use it well enough

Like its predictable, but not so much that the whole power can be negated by being attentive

[delicate cliff]

still, honestly, the only reason I would run this perk (Last Stand) is because of the cool vault animations 😄 I also tested it with finesse, doesn't seem to stack or work together

[spice violet]

The only time the powers good is when you are locked in animation, otherwise its crap

Still my point is, why nerf Clown and PyH, when Singu and Blight exist

[grave pier]

Wasn’t his entire point zoning anyhow?

[hoary tide]

I think it’s a steam only feature

[grave pier]

Like his killer description is literally talking about area control/denial, even.

[spice violet]

his zoning wasn't problematic enough to go nerfing

[hidden dune]

Pyramid head wasn’t nerfed-
His best add-on is basekit and that zoning nerf is counteracted by the extra 2 metres

[hoary tide]

And kaneki too needs a nerf

[spice violet]

Kaneki needs his range nerf reverted and enraged vault nerfed

[sonic skiff]

singularity honestly isnt much of an issue

the emps are enough

[delicate cliff]

real question si though, where is skull merchant rework

[spice violet]

compared to PyH? i dont enjoy 40min matches where singu can't commit to chase

[mint salmon]

I figured It out

[weary pilot]

Bro, clown bottle reload speed is so short now with teh reload addon

[sonic skiff]

if he is able to constantly keep you off gens then you are doing something wrong

[weary pilot]

Combined with lower throw cooldown, it's insane

[spice violet]

you haven't played against a gen jockey singu then, he absolutely refuses to leave gens

[hidden dune]

I feel like they just need to make hyper specific nerfs for singularity and it’s all good. Make his actions generally slower near exit gates and gens with high amounts of kicks and it’s all good

[sonic skiff]

brother i main singularity, i have had survivors counter me even when im trying my best to hold the gens

if he is able to hold all gens then you have either 3 genned yourself or you are playing against him wrong

[hidden dune]

Also Collins I have an issue with you not mentioning Knight

Oops sry for the ping

[dense valve]

I miss the ptb stream?

[hidden dune]

Like they gutted jailer and nerfed assassin, that’s like half of his power gone

[spice violet]

i didn't read into the knight changes or know enough about him

[hidden dune]

So one of his three guards is useless, another guard is almost useless

That’s the summary, it’s really really bad

[spice violet]

i just think the knight isnt designed very well, the guards are either oppressive as fuck or useless. i dont think it can be balanced

[dusty edge]

@glacial creek 🚫➡️ Your username contains flagged text

[hidden dune]

It was balanced way better before-

[maiden mural]

Ryan on the forums keeps saying, "Guys, if you just draw 30m paths, the standard spawns in 8 seconds instead of 4!!!!"

[spice violet]

again i dont know enough about him

[hidden dune]

That’s fair, but I just need to make it clear

In comparison to Pyramid head, Knight got hit way worse

[maiden mural]

If you spend 10 seconds drawing a path, you'll get an extra 4 seconds of standard time! Isn't that awesome?

Sure, you spend more time setting up the guard than the survivor does getting away from him, but that's fine, amirite?

[spice violet]

i think if the killer is in a fine spot they should leave them alone

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hidden dune]

YES
YES
YES

[maiden mural]

Don't remind me. It's been almost a year, and all we have to show for it are some dinky MS Paint pics

[spice violet]

they should start offering refunds

or revert her 1 iteration

[maiden mural]

What happens is, the devs play the game at a really low level. So when they play the game and get killed by, say, a Knight because they couldn't get the standard... they just gut it

[hidden dune]

Yeah, like all things considered the state where she had two scan lines was absolutely fine

[maiden mural]

Never going to happen. They'll release her rework in a year, and people will still go next against her for the memes

[hidden dune]

I hate that mentality, but you‘re probably right ;-;

[delicate cliff]

surprisingly I played against 2 skull merchants last night, no one complained 😄

[maiden mural]

Survivor Scott will come out and say, "I hate her, no skill expression!!!1!" and half the player base will nod their empty heads and kill themselves on hook

[hidden dune]

They can’t actually do that anymore, which is nice

[rotund ore]

I do want to mentioned i love we buff pig. But I feel her ambush speed is a bit to much. I love her crouch speed buff though

[spice violet]

because after a year people realized shes got no power

[hidden dune]

Ive actually been playing gutted SM a lot recently, because I’m a sucker for undetectable, and only one survivor threw the whole game. I think things are improving on that front

[spice violet]

now that complaining has died out, revert the gutting

[misty yew]

Which gutting? There's like 2

[spice violet]

1 iteration back

[hidden dune]

We‘re talking about skull merchant, but now that you mention it KNIGHT AND CLOWN NOOOOOOO

[maiden mural]

Maybe she's finally getting over her reputation for "chess merchant" and is now getting the rep for "killer without a power."

[spice violet]

literally worse than hag and trapper

[hidden dune]

Killer with diet stealth and the shittiest trap power in the game

[misty yew]

They old yellered my boi knight. I'm gonna be depressed about that for a while.

[spice violet]

if trapper got undetectable on setting traps hed be a better sm

[hidden dune]

Rotations are kindof satisfying, though. I love when I can land a scan because of my decision to rotate a drone. (It makes little to no difference)

[outer kettle]

Why is Michonne killswitched

[tardy igloo]

where is negan and his baseball bat mori where he pops the survivors eye out??? :(

[worthy portal]

I am not getting chase indication at all. i'll only get it after a hit

myers, executioner and pig

I also could not look up or down when carrying a survivor as pig

[delicate cliff]

they accidentally released her with the katana and it got wild

[fathom falcon]

is it a killer or surviver?

[delicate cliff]

2 survivors, no killer

[sick fable]

I don't get how people think the Clown changes are a buff. His only options for playing tiles now are to kick the pallet and force you into a dead zone

I don't think the reload changes are meaningful because you shouldn't be reloading in chase anyway and if you're smart with your yellow throw you can just time it so that you're done reloading when the yellow activates.

I genuinely think the changes will make him more frustrating to play against for newer survivors and make him worse against good ones

[primal swallow]

IS THE PTB OUT FOR TWD

[sick fable]

Since 11 US Eastern, yeah

[primal swallow]

YESSSS TYSM IMA GO PLAY IT

[sick fable]

Enjoy!

[sonic skiff]

so i found out using p heads new addons with monitor you can make is ranged attack longer than his terror radius lol

[cold badger]

From stuff ive gathered
Running TWD survivors, perks dont matter just running the survivors
can have a chance to nerf some ranged killers like springtrap unknown & huntress

makes some jungles safer against them

[sonic skiff]

how so?

[cold badger]

Seems running twd changes some tiles to be visually different
This is NOT the map itself but the map altering because someone in the lobby is playing a walking dead character

and these new tiles have roofs

Feel free to correct me but is that what im getting

[sonic skiff]

really?

[cold badger]

So a tile set that would be outside is technically a small inside area range killers cant throw their things over like springtrap's arch

[sonic skiff]

i just uninstalled the ptb could you send me a clip

i wanna see this

[cold badger]

Im a xbox i was watching a friend lol
but i could try and get a ss

[proven cradle]

Are the pig buffs actually good?

[cold badger]

unless someone here has image perms and a image of like tile differences

[sonic skiff]

just send in dms

[sick fable]

I have heard good things but haven't played her

[delicate cliff]

damn, the new huntress skin is so good 😄 could've done without the heart and horns look kinda wierd. Weapon is also meh, would've love to be able to mix and match it

[low quarry]

Very good, her ambush is very viable now

[cold badger]

Im tryna find a side by side since the only thing i can find is people reposting the dbd dev saying its intentional

its the new tile with the dead inside door

[restive wind]

do you still get auric cells in the ptb?

[sonic skiff]

oh i see

[cold badger]

say you had a jungle gym
someone runs rick
that jungle gym becomes the same tile with different visuals but also has a roof (i assume some small changes too im not the best at withered isle tiles)

[jovial saddle]

what is ptb?

[hidden dune]

Her stealth and chase are better now. Absolutely :3

[sonic skiff]

yeah i see it now

its kinda weird that they would do something like that

[maiden mural]

They now came out and said that you don't have to have a TWD survivor to spawn the tile. It will happen randomly

[old tartan]

opinions on the PTB Pyramid Head build? (offering is there so i can have a lot more matches with the addons)

[raven flume]

im genuinely so upset about the clown change, literally everything but his yellow bottles were nerfed, he was a low c tier killer before but now hes maybe d tier

[sonic skiff]

icl the iri coin is useless

its way too slow for it too actually hit someone at long range

[fossil bolt]

just wanted to point out that the ptb data is wildly outdated, it was not taken from july 1st it had to of been taken from before june 20th

[raven flume]

Public test build

[sonic skiff]

im pretty sure its the same save data from the fnaf ptb since skins i bought on that ptb i still have on this one

[fossil bolt]

idk when it’s from but i can tell you without a doubt it is not from july 1st, the ptb has none of my progression what so ever…. so it might be the fnaf ptb data bc i started playing around there

[raven flume]

I really hope they revert the clown changes

[cold badger]

ah thats good

I just didn't want to give any specific survivor a "perk"

Like lemme run leon with other people's perks just not like
any gameplay outside of visuals

[outer kettle]

Please add console game chat!

[cold badger]

We would die

[outer kettle]

Why

[fading plaza]

There's a place on the forums you can let your opinions on the PTB known, several changes that have gone to PTB have gone back to the drawing board:

Artists changes for 9.0 for example, they were going to change artist and her addons but people didn't like it so they got reverted

[cold badger]

end hame chat
Also 500s to type 3 letters

[raven flume]

I understand that, but clown isnt a very popular killer, so if there isnt enough uproar about it (as hes unpopular) will anything be done?

[fading plaza]

artist also isn't that popular of a killer and the few dedicated artist mains got it reverted

[raven flume]

Do you work at BHVR or just discord crew

[fading plaza]

discord crew

I just know that artist overall is only really played by her one tricks

same as singularity

[raven flume]

do you play clown at all

[fading plaza]

I dabble, I don't play him often but i like to play him from time to time

I play everyone at a ground level except kenaki

[outer kettle]

I talk a lot in marvel rivals chat trust I will say what I want in a reasonable amount of time…

[raven flume]

where can i submit this? i am extremely upset at these nerfs as a clown main, the playstile of the killer has completely swapped

[outer kettle]

I thought they buffed his fast gas

[fading plaza]

https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/categories/9-1-0-feedback

[fading plaza]

buffed fast gas, nerfed purple

[raven flume]

they did, but they nerfed literally everything else

[outer kettle]

I enjoy these changes as a surv player.

[raven flume]

most of his good addons and pruple gas have been nurfed

[raven flume]

you wont, a killer being able to race at 17 percent haste WHENEVER he wants is silly and unrealistic for killers and survivors

[outer kettle]

You’re the first clown main I’ve met

[fading plaza]

I'm reading through the forums @raven flume and a lot of people are saying they dislike the purple bottle changes

so you're not the only one

[raven flume]

YESSSS LONG LIVE CLOWN!!

i really hope this is revoked, or atleast bring backl the old purples, it would be a much needed nerf

[broken vault]

Why is m Mishobw disabled

[fading plaza]

The main thing i'm reasing on PTB forums:

Purple bottles got hit too hard

Knight got hit too hard

franklins as a perk is dead now

that's what i'm reading on this

[old tartan]

My first public PTB match and I got 2 DCs :)

and one of the downs I only got from new Iridescent Seal (wouldn't have had enough range otherwise I think)

[raven flume]

to fix clown revertr his purples, and then hed be a high b tier

[acoustic mauve]

So how does last stand work? Do they need to fast vault near or into me?

[fickle crane]

When the survivor finishes the vault, if the killer is within 2.5 meters, you get stunned

[acoustic mauve]

Also I've heard that it's one time use, is that true?

[fickle crane]

Yes, once per trial per survivor with it

[acoustic mauve]

Final question, how long is the stun?

[fickle crane]

3 seconds I believe, I'll double check

Yes, 3 seconds

[leaden surge]

Hi for those on PTB does Ghostface`s Stalking work through the smoke bombs?

Pls someone has got to know.....

[still slate]

lf1 EU gamer, non comms and stacking cakes, dm me

[muted dragon]

is clown too bad or good now?

[acoustic mauve]

Holy moly, enduring + hubris is going to absolutely destroy last stand

[sharp nimbus]

hubris may actually be a veryyy good perk now

[acoustic mauve]

Seeing that there's 2 new stun perks, hell yeah it's gonna be

[acoustic minnow]

we get antoher 12k cells right?

[iron ice]

Is this all for PC only?

[acoustic mauve]

Until the 29th

[iron ice]

Roger that, thanks!

[candid forge]

Are Rick's perks referencing something from the movies?

[acoustic mauve]

Idk, read the descriptions, they usually clarify there

[candid forge]

Wym clarify😭

[acoustic mauve]

Like the actual reference will be there

[candid forge]

I don't see anything as such

[sick fable]

I found the changes to be bad, they make him stronger in dead zones and weaker on tiles. This, imo, promotes a very boring play style of kicking a pallet then pushing a surv into a dead zone to get a hit instead of actually using both bottles to gain advantage on tiles

[misty yew]

The only winners of the patch was Pig and Pyramid head. I dunno enough about P head to know definitively but I hear they're good.

[grave pier]

I mean if you count survivors as a collective they definitely won out hard

[steep dove]

Franklin's Tragedy

• Return to original effect
• Make add-ons disappear
• Cannot be reacquired for 60 seconds

If you don't have any of these, isn't it a garbage?

[grave pier]

Some of the new perks are busted and ones like still sight got buffed too

[misty yew]

I'm getting metal of man vibes with this patch. I feel like the survivor perks are gonna be annoying, then bhvr just nerfs it after everyone already bought it.

[reef atlas]

So after playing this for a good hour or two I feel like the general quality is pretty low unfortunately specifically for voice acting and audio mixing

Rick and Daryl both sound really bad both in terms of performances and in audio quality it's so weird especially for Daryl since Norman Reedus is a good voice actor

Feels like half of Daryl's lines might be placeholder? Because some of them just straight up don't sound like him

[solemn zephyr]

how am i able to try the ptb? i know that question is prob asked already but im frustrateddd lol

[tawdry gyro]

bring the ptb to epic games

[spare cedar]

man ion even NEED these buffs lowk

my pyramid goated af

[raven flume]

Is anybody working on fixing the vc creation bot?

[pliant canopy]

are you on steam?

[native forge]

If you are on Steam: right click on DBD, choose Options or Settings dunno what it is in english, then you have an option called beta (4th option) and there you can choose that you wanna play on the ptb

[grave pier]

Epic games store has no support for game branches, take it up with tim sweeney, though he's probably busy milking fortnite

[tawdry gyro]

isnt it dbds choice to release the ptb to all platforms as early access tho?

[grave pier]

No, it heavily relies on the platform's ability to support it

they don't release it on consoles because consoles require updates to be approved in advance (which wouldn't work because PTBs are fresh off the oven)

[solemn zephyr]

yes

[grave pier]

and epic games store is just a mediocre storefront so they don't support the same kind of stuff steam does with beta branches as far as I know

[pliant canopy]

go to setings

select beta

[tall iron]

is it 41gb?

[fiery edge]

42gb

[tall iron]

i have a question

[fiery edge]

What's up?

[tall iron]

if i download the ptb witch is 42gb and i wanna go back to the normal game do i have to redownload 42gb?

and if i get back to normal game and i wanted to get to the ptb again do i have to redownload 42gb?

[fiery edge]

I don't think it's redowloading it so to speak no memory was lost or changed when I went to the ptb and then back to normal severs.. Not sure how it works but it doesn't take up extra memory switching

[tall iron]

hmmm

[fiery edge]

It won't be 84 gb total is a better way to put it I think

[chrome jackal]

ptb uses default voice lines for licensed survivors, wait till full update comes out, heard reedus has voice lines, not sure about the other two

[reef atlas]

What do you mean default voice lines? Like it's not acted out by Andrew lincoln? Also it sounds like Norman reedus's lines are like half there, but the other half don't sound like him at all

[fiery edge]

The artist skin has some cool voice lines with the new boulet brothers cosmetic too (lobby screen)

Is Mo playable yet?

[chrome jackal]

like they basically are dwight voice lines, very bad quality, i would be suprised if thats their voices when the full version is released

[drowsy mist]

Wait so will kbm on console come out at the same time as everything else or when the ptb ends???

[solemn zephyr]

is there a code of some sort?

[chrome jackal]

kbm will be out when the next update comes out (29th)

[reef atlas]

I see, well that's a bit of a relief I suppose although it's pretty lame they shipped the ptb out half cooked but I guess I should expect that at this point lol.... Nonetheless I'm excited to see what Norman Reedus's final line sound like since he's a good voice actor

[drowsy mist]

Grr that's so far away

[pliant canopy]

nope

[chrome jackal]

i know! was hoping it'd be available but oh well, its been a long time coming

[reef atlas]

If you're on Steam right click on the game go to properties and then switch the game version into the ptb version

[chrome jackal]

yeah they like close but you can definitely tell its not the original actors, who knows

[solemn zephyr]

hm maybe im doing something wrong. i can jsut wait till it comes out cause i go to properties and i went to betas and theres nothing there

[fiery edge]

Despite the bugs the ptb is kinda fun, pig feels so good! I hope you all have fun with the new perks and map 🙌🏾 good night

[fiery edge]

Have you fully closed steam and reopened it?

[solemn zephyr]

yes currently streaming another game though not sure if i need to reset my pc

[fiery edge]

Usually it's just steam that needs closing fully and then reopening and it should be there. I hope you get it sorted!

[solemn zephyr]

thank you

[rare arch]

Few questions 1. if I’m playing the ptb can I play with game pass players 2. Do you think rick get more skins or is that it 3. Do you think he will look better by full release

[fiery edge]

Ptb is only available for steam players so I don't think game pass counts, I'm not 100% though

[rare arch]

No ik but can I play with them or no

Do I have to leave the ptb to play w them

[fiery edge]

If they aren't on steam , yes

[solemn zephyr]

i fixed it yayyyy

[fiery edge]

Nice what did you do?

[solemn zephyr]

i stopped playing my other game and did it haha

[fiery edge]

Oh lmao, well at least you got it sorted! Enjoy the ptb

[solemn zephyr]

thanks im very excited gonna play it after! 😀

[grave pier]

Did they address the ptb not syncing with the July 1st progress yet?

[rare arch]

Sucks that it doesn’t drop until the end of summer break for me

[rustic mantle]

anyone tryna play the ptb

[true remnant]

Just incase no one has seen yet

[misty cargo]

omg I thought it was just me

[grave pier]

Just to clarify they edited and further said it wasn't tied to the survivors

[true remnant]

Source?

[grave pier]

whether or not it wasn't ever intended to or this was a quick backtrack is anyone's guess

[grave pier]

Go and check the comment lmao

[true remnant]

I have lmao

[true remnant]

It's random, there's a chance you'll get it

[grave pier]

Now go back and actually read the comment they added an edit

[true remnant]

I did lol

[grave pier]

Okay so why ask for a source then

Because if you did go and check then you'd see they clarified it's not survivor tied

(though I'm almost certain it was and they backtracked, or internal communication was weirdly unclear)

[true remnant]

I get the point lol

[grave pier]

Sorry I'm just confused because you asked for a source and then said you already saw it

[true remnant]

And I said I get the point

[scarlet quiver]

the naming presets are a bit bugged when in a lobby waiting for the game to start

[maiden heath]

why arent my characters showing up in the ptb how do i get my original progress

[scarlet quiver]

its always done that

[maiden heath]

is it gonna update soon or when will i be able to see them

[scarlet quiver]

got rid of my glichtrap and mathew

i wouldnt save untill you go off the ptb

*it

[dusk fern]

is there a specific map the tile can spawn in?

[maiden heath]

so your saying it will come with the progress just reload up the game?

[scarlet quiver]

i got to p21 and on the ptb im on 17

only if your on the normal game not the ptb

[maiden heath]

alright

[true remnant]

The withering one only I think

[plain pagoda]

is anyone else having like just unbearable server lag?

People can't be picked up a 25% of the time
Lunging rubberbands you like 3 feet back.
Killer powers are delayed
Survivor bots run directly towards you.

Are the servers exploding or what

[stiff basin]

idk

[acoustic mauve]

Are fog vials any good?

[lethal kelp]

Pyramid head iri add on makes him snipe holy !!!????

[snow tusk]

So what happens if you proc conviction then plot twist?

Is it just free self pickup?

[odd wing]

will streetwise trigger every time you use a fog vial? i don't really wanna sit through an hour to hop on the ptb just to test it.

oh nvm. literally says "first time." what i get for reading the patch notes too quickly.

[raven flume]

This is probably more of a technical question but I started the PTB download and want to stop it on steam. Does anyone know how to? I opted back into normal DBD through the beta but it is trying to continue the download

[rapid herald]

Ok

[sharp nimbus]

ngl throw down seems like a perk bully squads would love

[snow berry]

How is michone grimes the daughter of rick grimes

[dusk fern]

idk i stopped watching the walking dead a long time ago

[grizzled plaza]

I wonder the same but don't have the means to test it atm

[flint folio]

is the ptb out to play?

[short oyster]

sorry if this has been asked or in the wrong channel but in relation to twd release is there not going to be a killer? ptb only has 2 survivors right?

[vapid oyster]

Only the survivors 🙂

[short oyster]

thanks!!! shame i was kinda hoping for some gorey zombie or something

[vapid oyster]

Yeah, but still an exciting chapter! New killer coming in September, here is the roadmap:

$roadmap

[dusty edge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/622815465567420435/1379903288438161589/GsnjNqgWEAA8ZTe.jpg?ex=68429755&is=684145d5&hm=75eadfe56b1a87f876d11b90191630d85f19ab9b840f3e8fa46271317f0c255d&=&format=webp&width=1186&height=667

[barren viper]

All new perks

[barren viper]

Patch notes: https://dbd.game/3Ig9Cpg

[echo oracle]

Yall i need some help with the ptb

[onyx pawn]

Anyone want to play PTB later? I am trying to find peeps to play in 2 hours

[craggy finch]

rick looks chopped asl
quintin 2.0 ahh

[toxic dirge]

grick rimes?!

[fleet lagoon]

killers have abilities, survivors have items

[hallow chasm]

Is Conviction or Unbreakable better?

[fleet lagoon]

hard to compare

i think bringing conviction alone is worse than UB, but conviction could combo with other perks

for example conviction + soul guard could clutch in situations that UB soul guard could not do

plot twist could end conviction timer early and get the full plot twist heal, you won't bring UB with plot twist because of the interaction

[hallow chasm]

Conviction seems better for end game.

[craggy karma]

Man I am not enthusiastic about Last Stand.

In practice it's seeming to function as a free health state where it matters most once per game.

For a game that...arguably is not designed for three health state chases (and why dead hard was such a problem for so long)

It's just a free stun against a killer that was at the side of the pallet or window they should've been at and may disproportionally harm M1 killers.

And it's guaranteed to stun, eventually. It can't be "wasted" like dead hard can.

[fleet lagoon]

you may say that conviction is stronger than UB alone if you get things done under 30s

[hallow chasm]

Time to play a zero terror radius Killer.

[autumn mirage]

i have to prestige any character i wanna use the perks on other killer? if so damm PTB grind will be long (first time i try PTB)

[maiden mural]

Man, they really need to fix survivor noises

Ace is way too quiet

[grave pier]

Not only that it hits both sides of the window which is insane to me

Like explicitly altruistic and defensive in one perk

someone earlier was genuinely arguing the counterplay was to intentionally try to eat the stun early

[craggy karma]

No way

Turning a won mindgame into wasted time for the killer is like. always value. that perk will get huge value 100% of the time even if it's "only once" lol

[fleet lagoon]

you can't mindgame out of the stun

every time you mindgame you either eat the stun and disable it for them, or they get to save it for next time

[craggy karma]

And by won mindgame I mean, the killer rightfully wins the mindgame but is denied the health state in a way that's kinda out of their control

[celest hare]

Guys a survivor got stuck in my grasp as Chucky and it only fixed itself when they dc'd near the end 😭

[craggy karma]

Which is...bad design

And killers like kaneki won't give a damn anyway if it hits them so it's just gonna hurt the M1 killers I think.

[celest hare]

NOTHING got them free and before I tried dropping them they kept visually jumping back and forth between my grasp and doing the gen lmfao

And when they were on the gen they'd be facing me like a billboard texture

[craggy karma]

Crazy bug lol

[celest hare]

When I tried hooking or got stunned in literally like any way I'd just freeze for a bit

I thought I was disconnecting lollll

[craggy karma]

Maybe it's me as a dirty killer main or something but I can anticipate Last Stand is gonna singlehandedly lose me games at no fault of my own lol

Like I can tell it's gonna happen.

Either it's from a save or huge free time wastage.

[celest hare]

And the website's broken I can't fucking report the glitch lmao

[celest hare]

😭

"The captcha was not completed correctly" good to know the site is as broken as the game

[tepid ivy]

I just don’t know how to feel abt both sides of the game atm, it’s very much meta sided in a bad way, I hate having my games end to kaneki in 3 minutes cause he’s absolutely broken, and then I also hate playing killers I like who have broken/unplayable kits due to being outdated:,)) I rlly just want them to touch up on these problems, but why is knight being nerfed..?

[craggy karma]

I actually don't think I can name a single game like DbD where skill expression can just make the game less fun

[fleet lagoon]

imagine get brought to a corner z-wall and you can't even down them because they got a free out ticket

[craggy karma]

But that's a whole other can of worms I think

[fleet lagoon]

does 2.5m cover a whole z-wall btw because then you can't even hug the wall for tight pathing

[craggy karma]

That's what I'm saying!! Like I'm serious, one use out of that is kinda literally all you need for a play that can make the killer lose control in an instant.

And there's four survivors, so in theory that's actually four uses.

And it's not possible for a killer to bait or waste.

Unless by waste one means for it to just never activate and that's only really feasible for ranged killers.

[fleet lagoon]

we also have come and get me which is clearly a babysitter combo

[craggy karma]

"Come and Get Me!" is such an obnoxious name for a perk rofl

And the effect seems no less annoying to me

[fleet lagoon]

and it makes you scream so it fits steve even more

[craggy karma]

Steve mains are having the time of their life with this one

[fresh ferry]

Can confirm, Steve do be screaming.

[fleet lagoon]

i've been thinking come and get me + hardened is doing babysitter's job but better

it also includes yourself? i guess? haven't been on PTB to test

[celest hare]

DBD site captcha keeps me from reporting a fucking glitch I guess bhvr can go fuck themselves lmaooo I'll gatekeep it ig

[craggy karma]

Oh that's gonna be doubly annoying if it works on yourself too

[celest hare]

Only softlocks the killer all match!

[fleet lagoon]

the only downside of working on yourself is the aura reveal. but if you bring hardened from Lara, it becomes a strictly better babysitter that activates on command

[craggy karma]

You can also bring Distortion

Maybe overkill perk combo (that's three) but I can see on-demand Boon: Shadow Step being a biiiiiit too much.

[fleet lagoon]

the cheaper alternative

[craggy karma]

Actually; no it's even better than Shadow Step rofl it's also hiding blood

[fleet lagoon]

it's only for injured... and fog vial is already the on demand shadow step

[craggy karma]

Well to be fair, affecting injured survivors is where it's needed most

But that reminds me

Holy smokes the fog vial is annoooooyyyyying

People complained so much about struggling to see against Dredge's power and now we have an item that's just making everyone blind lol

Like that's crazy

Also the radius is HUUUUGE what on earth

[ruby gust]

Have the devs given any indication of fixing the progression

[native aspen]

elaborate?

[ruby gust]

As in the note that
Progress & save data information has been copied from the Live game to our PTB servers on July 1, 2025. Please note that players will be able to progress for the duration of the PTB, but none of that progress will make it back to the Live version of the game.

But a lot of players don't have any of the progression from before July 1st

Did they indicate at all that this will be fixed cause I'd love to play survivor but I've actually never levelled a survivor until after Springtrap's PTB

[native aspen]

They don't typically pull saves again for a PTB, no

[ruby gust]

Highly unfortunate

[native aspen]

And usually it wouldn't be worthwhile anyways since a lot of people will briefly play PTB then swap back to live - I don't believe they even keep PTB up for more than a week usually?

[ruby gust]

I mean it won't be that many people on PTB but it'll be a decent amount
Also my main thing is I want to try out the new items and addons so like that's worthwhile enough lol

Like I know PTB is going to be bugged typically but in my memory this is maybe their worst PTB release with a character just completely unplayable for the entire duration as well as losing like a month's worth of progression

I know typically you lose a bit of progression but I have literally nothing from after the Springtrap release

[hushed harbor]

like we have daryl but NO negan OR LEE or clementime or kenny

why those could be legendarys

[ruby gust]

Clementine and Kenny both make sense because to my knowledge of licensing, that would need an entirely separate license

[hushed harbor]

NOT even Glenn?

[ruby gust]

I don't think you read what I said

[hushed harbor]

man :[

[ruby gust]

Lee also yeah he's a game character

They might add the skins later but those will likely never get in unless the specifically collab with the Telltale games

And this likely will never happen

[hushed harbor]

isnt tell tale gone?

[ruby gust]

Considering Telltale is dead and buried

[ruby gust]

Exactly

[hushed harbor]

MAAAN aaaaaaaaaaa

like Lee could be a skin for adam or tapp but its never gonna happend

[ruby gust]

I don't know every skin in the game but I'm 90% sure that would also never happen because if they have a proper collab where the characters are actually individual, original characters don't get skins from that franchise

I think Feng(?) has skins for RE and Silent Hill but those are outfits rather than entire characters

[hallow chasm]

I don’t like this.

“Fixed an issue where using a Killer power to vault would trigger the Unbound perk.”

[fleet lagoon]

fuck that 3 killer that could do this specifically

[hallow chasm]

Legion majorly.

[clear ember]

has anyone tried using hardened and scene partner, in theory its a crazy pair

[fleet lagoon]

you won't get the scream chain

[astral beacon]

i really hope we get Michonne before pt bends D:

[drowsy mist]

Scene partner only works when you scream, hardened stops you from screaming

[clear ember]

so if hardened stops me from screaming, then hardened should activate and I get aura read right?

[clear ember]

scene partner tries to activate -> hardened detects a scream and stops the scream -> hardened gives me 5 seconds aura read, is this not correct?

[fleet lagoon]

yes, but you will only get 5s each time only
while scene partner itself is already 5s +2s for each time you scream additionally

[zealous urchin]

Hello. Do you guys happen to know what's the best channel to share feedback/thoughts about the PTB? BHVR forums maybe?

[toxic dirge]

feedback section on the forums is perfect!

[zealous urchin]

Cheers!

[weary merlin]

hardened doesn't stop scene partner screams unless they changed it

[viral sorrel]

I don’t get the scene partner hate I lowkey love it

[fleet lagoon]

some survivors scream like scratching plates with a metal fork

[slim bone]

Hi. How do I play the public test build on steam?

[weary pilot]

1. Go to your Library
2. Select DBD
3. Click on the gear/cog symbol on the right of your screen
4. Click Properties
5. Click Betas on the left side of that screen that opens
6. Under Beta Participation click the dropdown menu and select "public-test - Public Test Branch"

[slim bone]

Thank you Zach.

[weary pilot]

You're welcome.

[onyx mantle]

hows ptb guys

[marble plover]

Awesome sauce

[worthy swan]

Glenn is not that big of a character tbh

Daryl was the most obvious and wise pick to put in the game

[ashen orbit]

Was there a stage VC about 9.10 patch yesterday

[mossy haven]

Map changes are so tragic 😦

[fleet lagoon]

yep you missed it!

[lyric verge]

Korrlll where are you korlllll

[ashen orbit]

I didn't know DBD server did this

[ashen orbit]

Was it good

How many people were there

[fleet lagoon]

i think ~3500

[ashen orbit]

Damn that many

Ig that's why it was stage and not normal VC

My friend told me about this and the server yesterday

@fleet lagoon thanks for the help

[cerulean grove]

chat I didn't play the ptb what are they talking about

[delicate cliff]

After a thorough testing, this patch is basically a nod to SWF. All survivor perks are practically terrible for solo survivors, and at least two killers got shafted. So now they will go even harder against soloq and do very little against SWF. Hey at least PIG is in a "better" spot now (right?)

[fleet lagoon]

there's a new tile that references TWD, and they later said it's not tied to playing the survivors

[cerulean grove]

that's kinda cool

[rich tiger]

I know this isn't exactly the place to be looking for group, but can anyone try the PTB with me? I really want to test Pyramid Head.

[worthy swan]

#looking-for-group

[agile parrot]

is the ptb a pc exclusive can i play it on console

[void needle]

It's for Steam only.

[agile parrot]

okay

[dusty edge]

@hollow marsh 🚫➡️ Your message content contains flagged text

[onyx mantle]

isnt Apocalyptic Ingenuity kinda the reverse windows of opportunity

[fleet lagoon]

it's the party pallet in masquerade basically

[nova wave]

So is Daryl a skin or a separate character? PTB notes only mention Rick and michonne unless I’m missing it

[onyx mantle]

i mean the perk's passive, it lets u see broken pallets

[fleet lagoon]

that's not useful other than for rebuilding the pallet

[viscid delta]

looking for 2 for customs

[worthy swan]

Hes a Legendary skin for Rick

[nova wave]

Thank you

[distant charm]

These perks on these new survs can’t wait to stunned every 2s

Might just dc if they using it

Games becoming so useless yo killers to do anything

Eh games be more fun more swfs ig

[simple edge]

Go in #looking-for-group to find people to play with

[fallow cypress]

This is my opinion on the new survivors perks

Apocalyptic Ingenuity- could be balanced or unbalanced depends on the survivor team

Come and Get Me! - balanced

Teamwork: Toughen Up - balanced

Conviction - unbalanced

Last Stand - balanced but will be annoying

Teamwork: Throw Down - unbalanced

[tight sundial]

What happened to gd why is it PD now

Oh

Nvm I’m blind

[distant charm]

im starting give up fcking stun on vaulting??

[fleet lagoon]

all 3 of the girls perks are unbalanced in some way

[fleet lagoon]

do you know if come and get me works on yourself if you are injured?

[fallow cypress]

The two I said unbalanced yes for michonnes perks. Last stand in my opinion is balanced as you only can use it once and the time to charge it up is decently long.

Come and get me is balanced as you give your aura to the killer.

But these are my opinions they could be different or not what the majority of people think

[hybrid gull]

Does your bp go to the ptb from main game

And also if you then use the bp in the ptb does it get used in the main game

[fleet lagoon]

have you tested come and get me throughout

[fallow cypress]

No all progress on ptb gets deleted when the ptb is over.

Not sure about the bp spent from main to live

[hybrid gull]

I had about 2 mil and spent it on the ptb. And now that I’m back on the main game it’s no longer there. Also how are people such high prestige on the ptb

[fallow cypress]

Mate it’s my opinion if you don’t agree with it then ok no need to keep bringing it up

[fallow cypress]

I recommend asking bhwr support about it or in the question channel of this server as they are more likely to know

[lime jungle]

Do we think the clown changes are buffs or nerfs?

[calm wagon]

they cooked with the pyramid head add ons theyre fun to play with and against imo

[willow kernel]

A question about the jump stun perk, it hit the killer when you make contact with him or is it tied to the distance from window/pallet itself? wouldn't that make it possible to basically Goomba a killer if you jump on him from a height?

[fleet lagoon]

2.5m radius of your fast vault

[fallow cypress]

I would say slight nerf for the casual clown players but a slight buff for the dedicated clown players

[calm wagon]

last stand is interesting because tbh its a free vault even if the killer should hit you. I've lost mindgames but the last stand stun saved me

[willow kernel]

i would put last stand in the same spot as decisive strike tbh

[calm wagon]

its not broken

[willow kernel]

it is a second chance perk,whcih if only one survivor has it ,its alr

[fleet lagoon]

it will give you time to run away from a bad tile that you just lose a mindgame in

[calm wagon]

yeah

[willow kernel]

but if there will be a full squad equipped with it

now the question is,does enduring reduces the stun?

[fleet lagoon]

no

[willow kernel]

then it kinda is oof

but im sure people will find counters to it

[fleet lagoon]

endur already explicitly say it only reduces pallet stuns only

[willow kernel]

my bad here

[fleet lagoon]

they changed the word some patch ago

[willow kernel]

i didn't look at the description of it ,since i already knew it was reducing stuns

but thanks for the heads up

i wanted to say something but i just realised it's a one time use,it's not like dead hard where you find the survivor has it and then counter it

and if im not wrong the perk brings new vaults anim,right?

[native aspen]

Correct, you will be able to tell a survivor has it active due to their vault animations.

[exotic ibex]

The lack of Rick grimes police uniform is the reason I will not purchase him

No sherif hat

[fleet lagoon]

but there is no point in avoiding it other than landing the hit before their vault animation finishes

if you keep trying to avoid the stun, they will keep gaining free distance, and they still have the perk ready for next time

[calm wagon]

yeah i thought the perk was underwhelming and shouldve just activated after every hook but now that im seeing its full potential it might be in a good spot and giving it after hook states would be crazy with swf

especially with vault builds

[calm wagon]

finesse has priority over the last stand animation I believe

so if both are active at the same time finesse will show

[willow kernel]

then just eat the stun or rather said ,force the stun upon yourself so they can't use it on a better oportunity

[fleet lagoon]

sadly the only way to counter (yet), unlike DS you could wait the 60s out or smth

[calm wagon]

on some windows if you get stunned with last stand ur better off just dropping chase

[calm wagon]

it doesnt deactivate until its used

the vault animation will continue until its used so you'll have it the whole game

[native aspen]

technically you can also counter it by not having a TR

[calm wagon]

its pretty cool

[willow kernel]

so i think that might just be the counter for it, force the stun ,or just be a stealthy killer

[native aspen]

but that's perk or killer-reliant

[fleet lagoon]

that's a sadako buff

[willow kernel]

but i think where its true potential comes in ,it's a safe pallet because if the survivor succeds in stunning you with the pallet

or the shack,forcing more loops out of it

how long is the stun tho?

[fleet lagoon]

playing edge map z wall / fillers that have no generators nearby, it's too much

[native aspen]

stun is 3s

[calm wagon]

good killers rn are running alien instinct against last stand

and other oblivious

[fleet lagoon]

alien instinct huh

[calm wagon]

yur

[hallow solar]

anyone elses ptb lobby bugged?

doesnt seem to recognise that we are readied up and everytime someone changes a loadout it like makes the "readyup" sound

we've tried to restart lobby without touching anything but still havent managed to find a game and its been about 15 minutes

[native aspen]

could possibly just be not enough people playing killer in ptb now

[hallow solar]

nah we were getting into lobby fine before the bug

[rain hound]

When will the ptb come to live servers and not be ptb anymore?

Cause I want console kbnm

[fallow cypress]

July 29th as long as there’s no delays

[solemn zephyr]

anyone else disappointed? perks are cool but 😭

[trail ferry]

Good Mornin~

[fallow cypress]

Has anyone else had where non of your progress from your cross progression account (Xbox and pc) been put on the ptb even though they where connected before July 1st

[grave pier]

Can't believe I've heard more than one person say this

"Just throw the chase, lmao. That's the counter to the perk. Or just queue up as another killer."

I get that at a certain point survivors need new and interesting perk mechanics to keep things fresh but we’re getting to the point that there’s so many that you can’t cover all your bases, and you reasonably can’t be expected to even cover most of them.

[willow kernel]

I know what you're saying,but that's the bad side that comes with variety

Since we are getting so many characters overall, you are bound to be less prepared

[brazen pond]

2v8 being the way more beginner friendly mode is really funny

[grave pier]

Well I mean this specifically in the way that they remedy it with perk indicators for the ones you can't possibly know about

in particular the massive amount of endurance perks, the amount of scenarios where a killer gets punished for swinging and hitting because how could they ever know about x or y perk (and even if they did, the precise time it deactivates)

the michonne teamwork perk is a great example, since it (for some reason) works with BLINDS

[hoary hinge]

GUYS if i spend bp on the test servers does it go to the normal game when they come out

[hasty latch]

Nope

[hoary hinge]

can i ask how

cus it makes no sense to me

[sage carbon]

when is ptb out again?
and how can i join ptb on epic games

[grave pier]

Wym how

Your ‘PTB’ account has a different BP pool

[snow berry]

Y they nerf pyramid head

blud was only good cuz he could tunnel and zone

[slender swift]

He's a beast if u think he nerfed u doing it wrong

[snow berry]

Depend on his addon changes

He was a certified tunnler and zoner before tho which got taken from him

[feral pollen]

maybe because it's a different game version?

they are like 2 different games

[feral pollen]

what 💀

[fallow cypress]

Has anyone else had where non of your progress from your cross progression account (Xbox and pc) been put on the ptb even though they where connected before July 1st

[grave pier]

Many people

Have not seen it addressed and don’t expect it to either.

Which is a bummer I’d have loved to test the pyramid head changes

[snow berry]

Gave ppl out of cages basekit borowed time

bro was only A tier cuz he could tunnel

[boreal gorge]

WHat the fuck is this place

[feral pollen]

and they buffed every other aspect lol whats your point

[snow berry]

dont care removed his strongest aspect

[feral pollen]

lmao ok

[snow berry]

buffs aint good enough to account for that

tunneling the strongest thing u can do in this game

[gleaming orbit]

anyone else getting weird freezing?

[waxen plume]

why did they nerf knight sm

i mean he was alr bad but now hes like euhh

[reef creek]

Idk

[unique folio]

dont care what anyone says this is very survivor sided im not even complaining abt the perks the smoke is too op like what is this im playing csgo in dbd??!? theres smoke and flash now

[waxen plume]

ong this ptb is kinda buns, rip knight you will b missed

[dapper saffron]

I have never seen the smoke have any tangible effect

[tough moss]

y'all get killers with whole new powers to play with every 3 months, this is the 1st time we've gotten a fully new base game item, let us enjoy it 😭

[grave crown]

I can tell the Devs really just wanted to fuck with Killer mains

[vapid glade]

When do you guys think the update comes out?

[grave crown]

idrc about the smoke bombs, but they just murdered Jailor from Knight

I assume around when this rift closes

[broken vault]

What’s y’all’s thoughts on the walking dead as a lisence for dead by daylight

[autumn pond]

Do the walking dead survivors have any special voice lines when they go against a nemesis or anything? If not that’s a huge missed opportunity

[frozen heart]

rick looks like shit

[snow berry]

hopefuly never

[vapid glade]

I want Rick so bad😔

They need to release him already

[snow berry]

its already out on pc

[sage carbon]

how can i access from epic games?

[snow berry]

u cant

[sage carbon]

only steam?

[snow berry]

yep

dont worry tho ur not missing out its barely anything new in the chapter

[loud crystal]

i dont think the smoke bomb is as bad as people are trying to make it sound

the vault stun & self recovery perks are stupid

[broken vault]

Nope

[snow berry]

fax especially the addons that make it impossible to see through the fog

[loud crystal]

but the smoke bomb is annoying at most imo

[snow berry]

Oh yeah the perk which require u to waste a minute hiding in the killers terror radius not doing gens, just so u can get a 3 second stun

which then deactivates after 1 use

Soooo op am i right

[loud crystal]

its not that hard to passively stack up

cant you do gens in the tr

i think actively going to the TR to activate it is a mistake, you should be able to get it by playing the game no?

[snow berry]

Gonna take u a while to get to 60 sec if ur just doing a gen and not actively trying to stay in the tr

allat just for a 1 time use 3 sec stun

and ur saying its over powered lmao

such a niche and useless perk it could be fun, but nowhere near op or meta

[loud crystal]

yeah ok tbh i see your point

i don't think its op but it does still sound abit stupid

i think everyones sleeping on the recovery perk though

[snow berry]

and also having to search 2 chests will take 16 sec minimum of seaching alone, + the time it takes to find 2, all that time wasted to build 1 party pallet

and the thing is party pallets are not even good

as a killer i would want the survs to run this perk just cuz of how much time theyll be wasting

[loud crystal]

the pallet perk is so overhyped

[quick panther]

Imagine if the pallet perk was 5 seconds. You could build a pallet in time for the pickup to finish 😂

I think bhvr might accidentally cause that when they buff the perk in four years

[dapper saffron]

I think it’s the chin and mouth that looks off

[viral sorrel]

I feel like it’s the hair volume idk. But there is something off and I cannot put my finger on it

[dapper saffron]

At least michonne and daryl are identical

[sharp phoenix]

Clown buff is so unneeded

[misty yew]

My eyesight is bad. Like Really bad, even with my current prescription. I can barely make out anything in that dome of fog. It strains my eyes so much.

[rare arch]

Do you have to buy the Rick skins in the ptb

[dapper saffron]

He was strictly nerfed

[misty yew]

Yeah. I dunno why they do the thing where they nerf someone heavily then slightly buff them to call it a side grade. Like, just give him a buff, there's no need for the tug of war.

[final stirrup]

When is ptb coming to console 😔

[dapper saffron]

I think shifting strength from the pinks bots to the yellows is a good change. The problm is the addons being gutted

[final stirrup]

They should make the game under a Microsoft/playstation store code

[feral pollen]

29

[misty yew]

Did any of his add-ons get buffed actually now that I think about it? I'm pretty sure all the addon changes were a nerf if I recall.

[dapper saffron]

Thats the problem

Taking hinder from pinks and giving it to yellows as haste would be a buff and also make him more skill expressive

But the addons needed to stay the same

[misty yew]

I don't really play clown, but even I can tell it's pretty lobsided

[flat cobalt]

How would you try and test the new still sight would you combine it open handed and kindred/bond or would you play with some stealth stuff like distortion or urban how would you go about trying to play it now that’s it’s 2 seconds not 4

[weary pilot]

Still Sight is the check spot perk ideally used in chase around killer shack

[ancient leaf]

how do i install or use the ptb (ik im special)

[weary pilot]

#ptb-discussion message

[spare cedar]

#ptb-discussion message

[modern trout]

So like.... Conviction is insane right?

[chrome cedar]

Can you use Soul Guard and Conviction combined??

[modern trout]

Yeah

[flat cobalt]

Yes but what’s the full load out you use with it

[deep plinth]

I like the new Artist Skin

[solemn cosmos]

Are you supposed to get bloodpoints to spend in the ptb or are you just stuck with what you have

[fallow lark]

how do you join the ptb for walking dead is there a code ?

[misty yew]

I just now noticed how mind numbingly frustrating the new survivor perks are gonna be if used in a swf/bully squad.

[trail ferry]

Right click the game on steam: Properties - Beta

[low quarry]

The percentage increase for Pig's new ambush speed is 5%, right?

[sage carbon]

rework alien turrels 🙏🙏

[chilly flower]

xeno?

[flint rose]

anyone knows where i can see the submissions for the skin contest?

[sage carbon]

yeah

[sage carbon]

for both sides tho

[chilly flower]

I hate it when counter for a killer is something you have to find

Agreed

[sage carbon]

dayum

[sage carbon]

as for xenomorph there is no counter for double turrels
and as survivor i think 35% hindered while having turrels is insane

[sage carbon]

also turrels give information how far the killer is

[astral beacon]

are they gonna try to fix michonne before ptb end

[calm wagon]

yeah rn what i found to be busted even in solo queue is soul guard, conviction, med kit with syptic, and plot twist if ur feeling silly

[dapper saffron]

It’s only available on steam. Right click dbd and go to properties, betas and then it’s in the dropdown

[hidden hill]

So Idk if it's been brought up before but has there been discussion around distortion with new blood amber? Because it works exactly how you think it would. On demand scratch marks disappear with killer aura reveal while you're hidden. Also stacks with eyes of belmont...

I kinda feel like that interaction should maybe be tweaked... It is limited to 5 uses with map charge add on, but still with Iron will it's a REALLY powerful get outta jail card in the right hands...

[fleet lagoon]

I haven't seen one talking about it yet but I don't think it would be anywhere strong like the old one cause it restrict use to 2?

[hidden hill]

Yea 2 distortion stacks, but I've found that limit can be worked around by getting chased, and then escaping that chase with a stack left. The only concern I really have is scratch mark removal is a pretty rare ability and this gives you wall hacks + on demand removal. Maybe it's intentional but it's pretty powerful from what I've done with it.

[fleet lagoon]

yeah now I think abt it, it's very cheap to use broken key + 2 sec addon and blood amber

[green birch]

can we connect our behavior account while in the ptb version of the game?

[hidden hill]

yea you can take the 2s addon or eyes of belmont and an extra charge addon. I guess the fog vial now allows survs to hide scratchmarks on demand but having that much scratch mark control feels off to me. Dance with me is the closest we've had before or like parental guidance/lucky star head-on. But they've always been so niche. I'm a strong believer that Lucky break is actually an amazing perk for the ability it gives you to actually just drop a chase completely if you play it well.

I feel like blood amber's reveal should work similar to how OoO works where you need to see each other's aura's or it shouldn't work.

[signal eagle]

I just have to say, I’m very confused how there’s consultants for DBD now, and yet it seems like none of them were ever asked about anything in this patch. A vast majority of what’s in this ptb is just not good, and was an absolute waste of development time

[twin furnace]

what is ptb?

[fleet lagoon]

!faq ptb

[twin furnace]

public test build

[fleet lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-celebration-joy-confetti-gif-25557730

[autumn mirage]

PTB progress is saved for next one?

[signal eagle]

No, ptb progress is usually pulled from whenever they copy data from the main game

[raven comet]

Conviction is going to be soooo good for plot twist and expo builds

[autumn mirage]

so prestiges should be pulled?

because i didnt got any character with prestige and i had some in game

[signal eagle]

Yeah it'll copy the data from whatever time they grabbed it for the ptb
I think this one is data from either early june or july on the main game

[autumn mirage]

Ohhhh maybe early june, i started playing more recently

Damm so i am at disanvantage since i got 0 prestiges

Before i didnt prestige any character, only level up most

[grave pier]

Well yeah that's the point

Xeno has quick map traversal and info across about the entire map, Turrets provide at least a little extra value on top of their zoning

[stuck jungle]

why they gut franklins demise

[signal eagle]

I'm assuming someone was too lazy to make it work with the new key/map being charge based

Which is a very stupid reason to just utterly gut a perk

[stuck jungle]

there no way they let this make it into main game

if there is a god plz dont let this happen

[fleet lagoon]

i mean... all the items are charge based before the change

[stuck jungle]

nah if they do make frank work like that they need to make m2s also work with it

[fleet lagoon]

they just have to make items that does not have 1 full charge unusable that's it

[stuck jungle]

since they gutting weave are they gutting any survivor perks

[signal eagle]

I assume it's because they couldn't find a way to make items with 8 charges on limited-use scale properly with items that have 32+ charges

[autumn mirage]

I swear they literally took the only purpose of the perk

[autumn mirage]

I mean is behaviour, remember insta blind? insta billy chainsaw? infinite loops? Ghoul guaratee kills? etc

So far also the smoke thing

is good i just HATE the size, is just too big unless i know where survivors are or will go i got no way of working around it

[left flax]

any know a good looping build if im solo q

[signal eagle]

Well yes, they did. Mildly inconveniencing survivors with needing to go grab the item they can see across the map is basically useless

And it means there’s no counter for squads with good medkits as an m1, so that’s just a straight nerf in that regard because there is no other way to stop them

[autumn mirage]

literally now all does is drop item but when hitting survivor most chases end if they do correctly so is basicly useless and 5 seconds later they pick it back with same charges

i swear feels like they dont know the meta, is like if they made idk Lightborn be so it reveals aura for 20 seconds if they try blinding you but now you can be blind it just takes 10% longer

[signal eagle]

I mean they don’t even need to grab it in chase, at worst they need to walk across the map and go grab it again

[autumn mirage]

thats what i said, mb for bad explaining it lol

[signal eagle]

Fair lol

But yeah the thought process makes no sense at all, whoever designed the changes didn’t know what they were doing, or didn’t care enough to do them right

[autumn mirage]

i feel like the issue is trying to rework everything instead of balancing

is like making aura perks be gen regression perks, make gen regression perks be aura perks and all other perks be extremely situational

wouldnt make sense, some changes are amazing but then others just put the 2 stepswe progressed back

[cedar shadow]

What did they do to franklins

[fleet lagoon]

they made it become the Franklin's we get from 2017

no charges lost, just drop on ground

after 8 years and this perk has run a full lap back to the starting line

[modern gate]

So basically we just see the items on the ground again with zero charges lost

[jagged zephyr]

how do yall feel abt the one time use window stun perk

[fleet lagoon]

strong

[jagged zephyr]

idk. i kinda feel like it should be an exhaustion perk like head on, but at the same time i dont wanna waste it when looping. im at a cross roads

[fleet lagoon]

the best use of it is saving it for when you run into a bad TL / z wall / edge map filler and nothing could connect

[jagged zephyr]

honestly yeah, knowing me id try to go for a killer grasp save tho😭

[fleet lagoon]

thats also still strong

[cedar shadow]

Sooo the made it so nobody uses it

[raven flume]

Who loves smoke

[fleet lagoon]

I just realized

conviction let's you get up for 30s but chaos shuffle will be testing 12s slugged survivor pickup healing

so if the changes stick around we can play conviction relay race

[small rampart]

Is the window stun perk as annoying as it sounds in swf?

[fleet lagoon]

in the what

[worthy sierra]

“Autocorrect”

[signal eagle]

Tbh I think it's super weak

At worst it's just the ability to get a save using a window, the way it doesn't activate until after the vault completes makes it basically useless otherwise, other than maybe if you get very lucky in some deadzone

[iron dust]

That’s true, and you can only use it once atm, so it’s very situational

[craggy wedge]

How does vault animation looks like with Last Stand and Finesse?

[knotty plume]

Pig got buffed right

[ruby gust]

I just saw a clip that is actually the complete opposite

Last Stand and Conviction put you in actually unwinnable situations as a killer

Like it's a guy downed right next to a wall when the killer goes to check for saves for MAYBE 5 seconds
Slugged survivor has Conviction, other survivor has Last Stand and next to the wall is a pallet
What do you do in this situation as a killer?
If you slug, they get up and you lose
If you pick up, Last Stand stuns you and you drop them and you still lose

It is not uncommon for a survivor to go down next to a window or a pallet

An actually unwinnable situation where any choice you make loses you the game

It takes barely 10 seconds for Conviction activate so like you just lose no matter what and if they have Soul Guard then just become a survivor main

If you go to break the pallet and get blinded by the person with Last Stand, they still get up with Conviction

Hell even without a blind they'd still probably have enough time to get up

[worthy sierra]

Just don’t

[knotty plume]

I mean I don’t know if I’d call it an unwinnable situation, if you down someone with conviction and they’re being protected by someone who has last stand it depends on your killer abilities
If you get stunned by last stand it’s disabled for the rest of the trial, so why not just tunnel the guy with last stand until he’s forced to use it

[ruby gust]

People are already saving Last Stand for endgame

[knotty plume]

Plus this implies that the guy with last stand has been in your terror radius for 60 seconds without you chasing him

[worthy sierra]

Fr
Last stand seems super annoying at first but really just kill the dude

Plus it only works once and you just gotta get it to activate at shack or smth

[knotty plume]

I mean this seems like a very common perk combo, like this seems like a worse version of no mither and decisivie

I can see it being effective but not game breaking

[fleet lagoon]

if you think DS DH OTR UB is not annoying enough, we got you

[knotty plume]

Cause it relies entirely on the premise that you down someone who has conviction right next to a window while someone has active last stand and is also right beside them

[worthy sierra]

It’ll be annoying but it works once

[knotty plume]

Which like,, yea, if you’re in that exact situation you’ll be punished for it

[ruby gust]

Punished for... downing someone next to a window or pallet??

And thank fuck it only works once, it only NEEDS to work a single time

[stuck sphinx]

well yeah you have been punished for downing someone on a pallet for years

[ruby gust]

If you get it off in endgame, like the situation in the clip I mentioned, you just lose

[ruby gust]

If the pallet was up, and if you were looking out in the open

Now even if a pallet is down you're punished, even if you face a wall you're punished

[knotty plume]

Punished for downing someone next to a window or pallet while someone protecting them has a perk specifically designed for that scenario and is ready to use it

[stuck sphinx]

break pallets

[knotty plume]

And even then last stand is disabled for the rest of the game and the conviction user is broken

[ruby gust]

And with Background Player how am I supposed to know this person is there at all?
If it was that simple flashlight saves would never be possible

[knotty plume]

Then it sounds like you dropped one survivor in exchange for a convoluted and well executed perk combo that has the effect of saving one survivor one time

[ruby gust]

There are multiple perks that do one thing one time and they're still enough to change the course of a game entirely

[stuck sphinx]

god forbid survivors are allowed to co-ordinate

[ruby gust]

And then break windows or?

[stuck sphinx]

can you break windows

crazy new perk

[ruby gust]

Ah yes, the coordination of putting a killer in a completely lose/lose situation where no matter what they do you get the escape and there is literally no counterplay unless you're playing a top tier killer

Are you intentionally being obtuse or something I don't get it

This entire thing only fucks over every killer that isn't Nurse or Kaneki or Blight

[stuck sphinx]

they can do a save by a window or pallet once a game it’s not super super busted

[knotty plume]

It’s a lose lose situation if you down a survivor next to a window or pallete while the person with last stand is there and ready to stun you

[stuck sphinx]

tbh its like that every patch now

[knotty plume]

It’s a save once per game

[stuck sphinx]

unless 4 mfs are running it lmao

[ruby gust]

Downing a survivor next to a window or a pallet with someone else ready for a save is one of the most common situations in this entire game
The whole point is that it was a god given right that hitboxes trail slightly behind to hit someone who's vaulting, and now you get punished for trying to do ANYTHING

[knotty plume]

Ok maybe go kill the guy with last stand before you pick the other one up

[ruby gust]

People keep saying this "once per game" shit like it matters, there's a reason DS was disabled during endgame

[knotty plume]

You’re assuming that the person with conviction even has conviction active

[ruby gust]

They have a perk that lets them pick themselves up after like ten seconds, what are you fucking on about

[ruby gust]

DBD in 2018: "You're assuming the person just has DS"
DBD in 2025: "You're assuming the person has a perk with an activation condition of healing someone once the entire game active"

DS was disabled during endgame because "once a game" was REALLY fucking strong, so once a game is still strong but now it can happen at the most crucial moment

[knotty plume]

It’s not no mither, they can only get up if they’ve also healed someone, this requires so much coordination to pull effectively
You have to down someone who has active conviction next to a window or pallete during endgame while someone with last stand (active) is camping that window or pallete and is ready to stun you

This is super easy to play around

It’s also not even that impactful unless endgame

[fleet lagoon]

so think about a situation where you are zoning the injured survivor from escaping to the gate after endgame timer starts, but you get shit on by a vault window stun because you're on the same side they want to escape to

[ruby gust]

So many people in solo queue can flashlight save, it's the same premise
It doesn't require coordination it requires altruism which isn't some super fucking complex thing, it's something that'll just happen

[knotty plume]

I see how this would be annoying but I literally cannot see how this would be game breaking or problematic considering all the counterplay it has. It requires healing and terror radius which is something you can build around

Or just bait people into not dying near windows

[ruby gust]

"Build around" there is one killer, you cannot build around terror radius and healing and slowdown and info all at the same time effectively
You can do all of those at the same time but very poorly

"Or just bait people into not dying near windows" so they can get a flashlight save because I have no wall to hide from the blind?

Or sorry is it then that I leave them slugged again so they can get Conviction and fuck off

[knotty plume]

It’s almost like coordination between survivors is strong

[ruby gust]

It's not coordination you are genuinely just being obtuse on purpose

There's this crazy thing that even when solo, survivors will save other survivors

It doesn't need coordination it just needs a moment of time to do this very basic thing

[knotty plume]

I think you need a few deep breaths and some green tea, I will get back to you after this shift though

[ruby gust]

I think you need a brain

You make no attempt to actually understand anything that opposes what you're saying, you've repeated the same three points of "It's only endgame" "Teamwork strong" "It's only once" without at all bothering to understand anything else

Every other perk that has been this strong has been nerfed to disable during endgame, the fact that this works in this situation makes it MISERABLE

[fleet lagoon]

after you picked up a survivor
how you have to avoid windows besides pallets to avoid getting saved

if that's not the only thing you have to monitor and remind yourself on top of all the other multitasking

[ruby gust]

You just gotta path perfectly haven't you thought of that

Keep in mind that you can't look straight ahead because of flashlights, you can't walk through an upright pallet because of a save or Power Struggle, and now you can't walk near any windows or downed pallets because of Last Stand

If DS was what it used to be today, I swear you'd have survivor mains talking about how "Well it only works once it's not that broken"

"Guys you have to get hooked and it has to be within a minute I swear it's a balanced and fine perk"

[stuck sphinx]

damn you really pressed huh

[ruby gust]

I actually know this is true because I was fucking there when people would say this shit

[ruby gust]

Your bio is accurate enough

[stuck sphinx]

thanks that’s why its there

[ruby gust]

It really just takes nothing for you guys to go "Well actually here's the same point again and again" instead of bothering to engage with anything that takes a second of thinking

[stuck sphinx]

the game is balanced for the people who play super casually so in the end there will always be stuff like this

[fleet lagoon]

it's not that hard until it finally drops live and people finally get to face it and use it and exploit a perk with other perk combos

[stuck sphinx]

i play both roles equally im not on either side

[ruby gust]

The game is exclusively balanced around the best of the best killers and nerfing literally every killer for the sake of survivors and it makes situations like this beyond miserable because every time someone who doesn't main Nurse is getting fucked because of it

[ruby gust]

I really can't wait for like in a month where people get to see the actual use of the perks and how easy it is to get off consistently in solo queue and still somehow manage to go "Well it's balanced it's only once"

[stuck sphinx]

i agree that for an m1 killer this will make it even harder for them to even get a 3k but for the top line killers they will be fine

[ruby gust]

Same fucking argument from 7 years ago man

[ruby gust]

Is this bait or like am I going insane

What is Nemesis' counterplay to this other than pray a zombie is there for the instadown unless they actually cured themselves so fuck you

[stuck sphinx]

[ruby gust]

Nemesis is not a low tier killer and he'd struggle in this situation

[stuck sphinx]

ah yes my fav top line killer nemesis

[ruby gust]

If you mean top line killer as in just Nurse, Blight, and Kaneki

[stuck sphinx]

i count dracula as top line too i think hes really good

[ruby gust]

Then you are genuinely baiting because if your solution to this is just "Play the best guys and fuck your main" you are out of your mind

Dracula couldn't even deal with this in any effective manner

[stuck sphinx]

the game has been like that for years

[fleet lagoon]

I think people get tamed by DS and say "just eat the DS duh it's not that hard to figure out!"

[ruby gust]

Yes that is because the game is bad and the balancing is worse thank you for joining I'm sure your first year on the game has been fun

[odd eagle]

when’s the update coming out guys!!!!

[stuck sphinx]

np thanks you ever thought that dbd is just a hard game to balance

[ruby gust]

Back then it was just a thing of you either eat it or you they get up and no matter what it was a lose/lose, at least now less people run it and more importantly it's not fucking active during endgame

[ruby gust]

Have you ever thought that wasn't an excuse for the game to not be balanced since literal day one of release and only get worse over time

[stuck sphinx]

im not saying its an excuse i was just wondering if that ever crossed that angry mind of yours

[ruby gust]

If your only bit here is to keep saying the same thing and calling me angry it just doesn't work

[stuck sphinx]

im just confused as to why you are so mad at a patch that isn’t even live yet

[odd eagle]

great talk

[ruby gust]

I would wonder why I would discuss this in a channel called #ptb-discussion
Truly a mystery

[stuck sphinx]

doubt they will change anything but i will enjoy my pyramid head buffs and have some fun

[ruby gust]

This person is discussing PTB content in the PTB channel, how queer

[stuck sphinx]

more like ranting but yeah

[fleet lagoon]

if you dislike the perk so much, you should go to the feedback forums and not here!

[ruby gust]

As if the devs care about feedback lol

[stuck sphinx]

😭

[fierce turtle]

how.. how what?

[knotty plume]

Lots of perks to counter this. Dislike flashlights? Lightborn, and you have a bunch of other perks that buff you after being stunned, this is just a specific scenario that I think you’re being closed minded about

[wooden yacht]

It doesn't seem like you're trying to understand anything that opposes what you're saying either. Instead you're calling people obtuse and stupid for disagreeing with you

[unique adder]

did springtrap get released yet

[wooden warren]

no

[hallow chasm]

Does Last Stand only stun if the Killer is on the other side of the vault or pallet when you fast vault?

[fleet lagoon]

it's 2.5m so technically you can get stunned if you're chasing after and missed the swing

[signal eagle]

And that’s a problem with conviction, not a problem with last stand. You’d get more value just running any other perk and going for flashlight saves or having your teammate go down on a pallet, than hoping your teammate dies close enough to a window to get a stun

It would be ridiculous if last stand was a good perk in any way, but it’s not reliable at all, so it’s the sort of thing people would use to get clips rather than to actually get saves

[robust crater]

jesus the franklins change is still gonna piss me of. what where they thinking?

also last stand wont be much of an issue, its the womens Teamwork perk that is the real problem

[signal eagle]

I still think they just couldn’t figure out how to make it work with the fog vial or the new map/key, so they gutted it instead of bothering to fix the game

[fleet lagoon]

that cannot be the case

[signal eagle]

I find that one problematic only because it creates a pretty big disparity between the weaker and stronger killers as far as counterplay goes, which is the last thing we need

[robust crater]

yeah it already sucks. As a low tier killer no matter what you do it could be a 4 solos if they know how to duo gens its already really difficult for killer.

[flat cobalt]

I mean I think this is ok dbd is not a game like cs go where the primary objective is ranks there not even a leaderboard or rank number displayed. To think they can have as many killers as they do and have them all be at the same level of valence without making the game feel boring and washed out I think is a pipe dream. They do a good job of giving us many options to play with I think and to expect that level of samensss in power level feels naïve as no game have played ever with that many moving parts had that kind of balence and I think it’s fine as this is the kind of game that should champion fun first and while it should try and remove gross imbalances right away in the problem side a weaker killer not being the nurse is not really an issue in my mind

[fringe kettle]

Middle east servers 🙂

[robust crater]

yes but also theres "there gonna be weaker and stronger killers" and theres sh** like the franklins nerf and what ever happend in 2022. dont know the details.

and right now with how they change things it seems like a summer 2022 situation comming right back up where killer feels so miserable to play for the common player that they slowly change to survivor

[flat cobalt]

I wouldn’t know I’ve played this game forever however when I started for me it was a social game I did not pay alone and I did not play to win I was having Juno scare fun with friends and back in that time I don’t even think you could kick gens. Since returning months ago I did surv again and then tried killer and despite having about 400 surv hours and only getting gold I got iri one on killer in less than 50. My assessment was not that I’m better at killer perhaps some small gains by not saving to turn and look while running but mostly it felt easier. That being said I certainly do better with a subset of killers but they are not any of the best ones just anything with an ability to win on pallet like nem so I can’t be out looped by stronger players with more skill or hours played. Now to me if a killer is worthless or so op it makes everyone hate it then it needs addressed but having some at the top and bottom I think is unavoidable. I don’t have any frame of reference fir what killer felt like before now as I’ve never tired u till this year but for me at least I find winning much easier on killer despite playing with much stronger players than I do when I que survivor. So I don’t know what summer 2022 refers too but I find that the game is still fun and balance is mostly fine. I have not have ever played in vc with sweats so perhaps if I had that experience it would make more sense idk.

[prisma dirge]

There are some perks that still are not working

[autumn mirage]

You have officially become my favorite figure of power in this server, best pfp

[autumn mirage]

The issue is not making mistakes but taking months to years to fix them which has been dbd history with balance issues + is a cycle of most new killers being broken on release then gutted after 2 weeks or month which basicly screws people who join for that killer or people who bought it either for perks or for their power, for me what bothers me is how much can take to fix EVIDENT problems not so the small balance changes and also how many times they rework or gutt the use of a perk while buffing the not useful side, like Frankil rn it got its whole purpose of taking charges removed and buffed the rest that is not the point of the perk or think about Knight and how now the banners is fucking gone and unless the Knight babysits the guards they will most likely never do anything

[autumn mirage]

i feel like also an issue is they go by % win rate when most of it comes from low level players, at the start when no one knows how to play killer is stronger since requieres less knowledge to put pressure but as the game goes on top survivor tend to have the edge but since the top MMR people arent majority of players then it doesnt reflect on stats so ends up with balancings that doesnt make sense

[flat cobalt]

I mean as I said I’ve played killer for the last few months I don’t have experience outside that and in trying it I’ve found it’s easier than survivor but I’m not a comp gamer I’m 37 I generally would prefer surv just to vc with my friends. To me I think as a horror game that’s not about chasing ranks or ladder numbers it makes sense that they are the not treated like a priority as they would in a Starcraft or so go type game where the intent is obviously competition. And from what I’ve seen they do an excellent job I’ve seen so many updates since coming back many of my old man games have issues for years before we get 1 patch so perhaps my standards are simply lower form play many more non AAA titles. Many if this kind of complaint though to me doesn’t speak to understand the life of the dev trying to improve your game they dont all play thousands of hours and an change needs the community to test and tune i think thats the nature of it. I cant speak to the specific perks you speak on as i dont follow it that closely and dont have any context. That being said I still prefer the causal game and silly builds to trying hard so I may not be in line with a play to win players mentality as I don’t really play this game that way. If I did tho I find killer way easier to win with and it’s not close thigh I admit part of this is due to me not wanting to / being to lazy to turn and look on surv when looping. That and despite being bad at looping on killer if I select any killer that hits over pallets or windows I can kill much stronger players with no issues. So I don’t know if they balance this game for top players in vc like they would a comp focused game like an rts or fps or if thier goal is more the fun of everyone. In either case I find they are both good and fast compared to other games I play.

For instance I just was thinking man still sight is pretty cool I could combine it with a few things but then when I played it stopping 4 seconds felt very clunky and not good enough then I see latch notes now only 2 seconds. Now I don’t know if that’s too good or still terrible but seeing that made me think hey they are making things better all the time.

I think a player with many hours might go well that does nothing its silk bad or that does too much did you even think about this. As a more casual player I see a dev who’s doesn’t have 1000s of hours of pattern recognition in game trying to make good changes

[autumn mirage]

Yk you get lower MMR matches with killers you never played with? even if you played only survivor you know a lot which in some ways translate to playing the other role in the basics and also there will be always better and worst but it should be because of the roles or power not because they are just worst version of others or they get everything they have gutted to death

[flat cobalt]

I mean maybe but I have less than 1/8 the play reps on killer play obviously stronger players than I ever see in surv que and still win like I can 4K 100 prestige survs that the way they move I can tell they are much stronger players than me on surv I get smashed by noobs lol but again I don’t play in coordinated vc so I get the fully killer try hard experience if I want I don’t play that way as a surv if I’m in vc it’s to chat shit with buddies

[past cairn]

have you heard of DS + flip flop power struggle or DS + unbreakable?

flip flop power struggle especially if it was forced via plot twist is even more busted

[flat cobalt]

But I also do noob things like leave on the flashlights don’t hurt me thing as I don’t win if they ca flash me etc

[past cairn]

you can make a shit ton of distance, go down, and the killer doesnt even have time to reach you

[flat cobalt]

My assessment of this is they are much more skilled with many more reps but I can pick killers who kill over pallet and window and play kind of scummy and despite being much weaker I will still win

[autumn mirage]

Like i said if you never played killer you get weak survivors, your MMR isnt for every side and killer/survivors, if you play a killer for first time you get people who played as nothing as you i have confirmed it playing with different killers i never touch and getting people who are way worst than what i usually face with Nurse, Huntress or others, also a lot of updates doesnt equal that are all good changes nowdays is the best we have been on balance but from time to time they do the same mistakes of always and also they dont need to play thousands of hours if they played a few hours on both sides testing the stuff they do they could see the issues and we even got PTB like they can test themselfs what people complain about with no need to investigate for hundreds of hours to find the issue but instead check what others say and you talk that you prefer casual and thats fair but if they dont balance things then people who tryhard would basicly make any casual have the worst time of their life, we used to have games last more than an hour because survivors took the killer hostage, constantly insta blind them, they could outheal your m1 without moving and could do 4 gens in 20 seconds with old toolbox

[flat cobalt]

That’s not the case they are in fact much stronger when I play killer p100 vs p1 like it’s night and day I can asses thier skill they ar better than anyone I ever see in my surv games

[past cairn]

People really be hating on last stand WAY too much. I cant believe that people actually think that the perk will have any use outside of trolling

[flat cobalt]

And better than me too

But if I have abilities that let me down then without needing to loop well and just camp it doesn’t really matter I can still win

Like if I play a m1

I won’t get any kills they are far more skilled I cannot m1 them but giv eke any ranged attack and I can win without out skill them just camp and use ability to down