pvp

[wheat jay]

I look forward to it in Dragonflight

[cinder thorn]

Me too, love the warmode

Imagine the mayhem we can cause with one healer if this is what can be done solo with warrior which is as hemingway said not a great 1v1 class

[wheat jay]

I was running around with a feral friend when shadowlands started

Gonna do the same in DF

[scarlet barn]

Damn furry

[muted surge]

go duel some people

[wheat jay]

Shush Wackzonko

[cinder thorn]

The only problem is you can get bogged down in wpvp in release whilst others quest harder and gain levels and gear while you're busy cutting noobs

[wheat jay]

Bro, do wpvp when you're max lvl

Ez

[muted surge]

wpvp during leveling is the most fun tho

[cinder thorn]

That's it, it's more fun when they same level as you

[scarlet barn]

Shush my slavic bro

[wheat jay]

Bro

[cinder thorn]

Is DF having a shared quest hub and quests for both factions like outland was or is it mostly separated like wotlk

@muted surge

[muted surge]

eh idk

[scarlet barn]

Mostly shared

[muted surge]

didnt do the level server

[cinder thorn]

When outland came out I remember having awesome time ganking at dark portal

[muted surge]

but at one point pvp was enabled in the main city

not sure if its still working

[cinder thorn]

Hmm ok

[cinder thorn]

@thorn herald any idea

[spiral ridge]

Hello guys, where did you find some build for PvP in this pre patch ?

[cinder thorn]

I just made my own with lots of practice and tried everything

[muted surge]

you can just search for messages from mud in the channel

he linkedd few builds

[thorn herald]

Dunno just been doing pvp on the instant 70 server

I have a lot of alts I don't want to get used to dragonflight lvling and be bored if it before I even get to play

[elfin surge]

@spiral ridge

[nocturne osprey]

anybody been able to get 2100 solo shuffle as arms?

[kind prawn]

I think have Seen tay on 2200

[craggy moat]

debating between warrior and dk as my alt for pvp. What say you?

[tardy flame]

DK

Warrior is suffering

[craggy moat]

really? I've seen some warrior wrecking lately

[sage raptor]

DKs ignore a lot of armor because of magic

also all 3 specs are really good rn

[lean burrow]

warrior will be good on stat squish

[tardy flame]

Win 4 rounds of solo shuffle, 0 rating change. Wonderful

[copper hare]

I won 5 rounds and lost rating

[tardy flame]

Even more wonderfuler

[copper hare]

Shuffle is already so dead, always 270 ilvl people on 2.4 mmr

I hope they fix it for DF

nobody with fresh cr should start on 2.2 mmr, doesnt make any sense

[graceful ginkgo]

I dont think it will be a problem in DF, rn all Shuffles seem to have placement like MMR

[amber heron]

is war really struggling rn?

i wanna main war for DF

[tardy flame]

5 wins, 16 rating. A slight improvement

[lean burrow]

don't be metaslave

play what you like

[amber heron]

i want glad bro XD

i cant get glad on arccane mage or frost dk in shadowlands

no one will inv u

and u wont get past 2100

[nimble jasper]

wasnt pizzadawg 3k

as frost wwdk

🤔

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IsMSp0_Jkt0&ab_channel=pizzadawg
oh yeah

[solar grail]

can all pvp rewards in dragonflight be gotten through solo shuffle?

[nimble jasper]

not glad

[fickle forge]

Then just main it

No class can't get glad at least

[cinder thorn]

Yes in pvp, seems OK in pve

In pvp other classes have way stronger setups

So not a good time unless you really like playing it

It's definitely not flavour of the month right now

I only play warrior whether it's weak or strong balance wise, but if it bothers you when it's weak like now play something else

[copper hare]

as if dark pact and soul leech wasnt enough

https://gyazo.com/079e9adcf224f18209ffd6a4de23bda8

110k hp btw

[cinder thorn]

Context please, did you win or lose, what was his damage and yours, what was your healing debuff uptime on him etc

Was it 1v1 duel

Etc

[scarlet barn]

Lol that avalanche of questions

[marble bone]

Just being the towel and water already lol

«THE NUMBERS, WHAT DO THEY MEAN?!»

[thorn herald]

tanks queue as dps on beta now

[marble bone]

Oh god

Cant wait to be 2 hours in a shuffle

[copper hare]

50k incinerate

pre patch so fun xd

[marble bone]

Sounds like a condemn

[thorn herald]

ironically the 50k incinerates are because of a shadowlands covenant thing

i dont think they are doing that on beta

[wooden grove]

It's 100% a covenant interaction that won't be present in DF

[copper hare]

how is that ironically

[thorn herald]

i made a meme about shadowlands borrowed power being a clowny thing people defend locks for

[formal creek]

@elfin surge what happened to the streams bro?

[copper hare]

https://gyazo.com/6711b99656de966153101b8828172b91

that dude was GONE holy fuck

[wooden grove]

Are you good? Everyone is aware that warlocks are currently busted as shit due to the SL covenant system interaction with the new talent system.

[copper hare]

I'm good yeah, are you "good"?

[wooden grove]

I'm just waiting for your next "ehrmagerd warlocks are so strong rn" post

[thorn herald]

warlocks are strong rn

[wooden grove]

Are you good? Everyone is aware that warlocks are currently busted as shit due to the SL covenant system interaction with the new talent system.

[copper hare]

Yikes

[lean burrow]

I don't think you understand how hard it is to play Destruction Warlock. All this talk that we are "busted" and "constantly complaining for more buffs" just doesnt make sense. We are one of the few classes that FINALLY get to shine after all these years (looking at you MAGES ). Rotationally, its very complex for what we have to do to do "good" damage. Not only do we have to put Immolation on a lot of targets, we ALSO have to make sure our infernal AND our Rain of Fire is in the perfect location to do ANY damage. We lose everything if tanks move at all. Classes like Mage and Survival hunter don't have to worry about tanks being dumb like WE do. On top of all of this, the apm it takes to play Destruction is more than any other class has ever been. We are constantly getting FLOODED with shards and if we ever overcap, its gg (that means good game). When I'm playing destruction, I'm never not pressing a button while mages get to sit there and hard cast Pyroblast (3 [three] second cast btw [by the way]). I'd like to see other people even try and compete with me as a Destruction Warlock because they would crumble under the weight of all the responsibility, apm, and mental pressure it takes to pull off what I can do. Whatever, I'm out, I gotta go do some high keys now, pushing for that 2k (2,000 [two thousand]) rating, later nerds.

[copper hare]

Are you good? Everyone is aware that warlocks are currently busted as shit due to the SL covenant system interaction with the new talent system.

[wooden grove]

Are you good? Everyone is aware that warlocks are currently busted as shit due to the SL covenant system interaction with the new talent system.

[thorn herald]

warlocks are strong rn

[copper hare]

guhys wat to doh againsd guardin he alwais outdps meh

moonfire brrrr

[thorn herald]

try not to cry

cry anyway

[wooden grove]

[raw summit]

thats for pve

[lean burrow]

rogue 68%

[wooden grove]

and the big ass copypasta above was all about pvp LMAO

[copper hare]

yeah true they are only viable in pvp cuz of lego/covenant interaction

we learned that

:D

As always, 10.0 will fix it surely

[muted surge]

warlock is so weak

just gotta outplay them mave

[muted surge]

its funny

that monk can still kill in a ~2 sec stun

[scarlet barn]

Mave doesnt get copypastas

Smh

[wooden grove]

imagine being a dk and playing TSG instead of walking dead

lol

[warped warren]

Are you good? Everyone is aware that warlocks are currently busted as shit due to the SL covenant system interaction with the new talent system.

[lean burrow]

got discord ping

thought "finally, I'm needed to someone!"

found this

[fickle forge]

Is this some PvE chart?

[wooden grove]

at this point it's just a meme about warlocks

but yes it is the past performance in mythic raids based off of warcraftlogs

I don't think anyone has compiled anything like this regarding viability in pvp

[muted surge]

btw why does a heal evoker do 6m dmg?

just with fire breath on cd and living flame spam

[fickle forge]

Yeah cause it's pretty irrelevant then right

[wooden grove]

newly introduced class buffs

[fickle forge]

Considering warr was the best melee alongside rogue throughout all of SL

[wooden grove]

did you play S1? cause that's false

[fickle forge]

??

[scarlet barn]

??

[fickle forge]

Warr has been the top arena melee for all seasons in SL

[muted surge]

wasnt condemn charge pretty buisted in sl1

[fickle forge]

It's never been better at any point

[wooden grove]

new account kiddo

Ret > Warr S1 SL

ez pz

[fickle forge]

This man's serious

[muted surge]

why tf

wait new acc

[scarlet barn]

Haha

[muted surge]

2019

sure

[scarlet barn]

This goes to archive

[wooden grove]

y'all must've been afk S1 idk what to tell ya

[fickle forge]

Arms was the best melee in S1

The best spec in the game

[wooden grove]

idk what hard stuck 1400 player told you that

[fickle forge]

🎣

[scarlet barn]

People are getting bad at this i swear

Even ndogo got 2100 season 1

[wheat jay]

condemn arms singular best spec s1

then banner arms best melee s2

[wooden grove]

Well, this definitely is Skyhold

[scarlet barn]

Yes

Are you lost

Do you want back to Hammer of wrath?

[undone pumice]

@ndogo

[lean burrow]

did you play S1? cause that's false

[spice hornet]

@bruin

@dekel

[steep inlet]

Are you drunk Isov

Arms s1 s2 was god tier

Not even close

[scarlet barn]

@elfin surge is this skyhold?

[fierce elm]

Arms sucked

[wooden grove]

nobody asked if it was skyhold, just the hurr durr warrior was best every season in SL gave it away

[fierce elm]

It didn't even one shot 100% of the time

[fickle forge]

Imagine not being able to live 5 CDs, literal paper spec in S1 and S2

[steep inlet]

We said s1 s2

Arms went downhill in s3

[wooden grove]

?

[scarlet barn]

Reading is hard when you live in bubble

No pun intended

[steep inlet]

this is false yep

[scarlet barn]

Or was it

[steep inlet]

S3 s4 outlaw and other specs were better

[wooden grove]

@steep inlet ????

[wheat jay]

s1 arms s2 arms s3 fury s4 fury

[steep inlet]

Fury wasn’t the best

[wooden grove]

you see this Troma

[steep inlet]

Outlaw was.

[wooden grove]

YOU FACKIN WOT M8

[steep inlet]

War s1 s2

[wheat jay]

well, it certainly was the most played class 🙂

[steep inlet]

Outlaw s3 s4

Most played yes

[fickle forge]

I mean

I did say

[wooden grove]

@fickle forge way to skip over this one

[steep inlet]

Yeah kargish not sure of this one

S1 s2 ok

Past that nope

[wooden grove]

this is better than it ever could have been

I love this discord

[fickle forge]

I'll disagree then Troma

[wooden grove]

[fickle forge]

Fury warr has been pretty dominant in S3 and S4

[steep inlet]

But not the best

Soz

[muted surge]

Wasn’t furry war and outlaw not by far the best in s4

[fickle forge]

Best melee alongside rogue

[steep inlet]

Outlaw >>> fury

[fickle forge]

Think that's true enough

[steep inlet]

Yeah like this ok

Anyway

We are shit now LOL

All War all rogues

[wheat jay]

That's 2 too many >

[steep inlet]

Except assa

[fickle forge]

😎 👍

[wheat jay]

Who cares about prepatch tho

👀

[steep inlet]

Same in beta

Sadly

[muted surge]

war gonna be garbage in DF

damage is non existent

[steep inlet]

They nerfed us 5 times

[wooden grove]

@fickle forge Hella warriors in 2022 AWC truuuuuuuuuuue

[muted surge]

my highest MS is 40k

[steep inlet]

We lost 50% dmg

Disgusting

[fickle forge]

Nothing to do but try and make it work really

[muted surge]

healers living flame hits for the same ammoutn

[wheat jay]

Awc is a different world compared to ladder

[wooden grove]

you're right

they use the best shit

[fickle forge]

I mean the guy is just trying to

🎣

[wooden grove]

Kargish just mad he can't say shit back but conjecture

[fickle forge]

And as per usual you ate it raw, hunter brain @wheat jay

[wheat jay]

Fuck off

[fickle forge]

Gottem

[wheat jay]

I'm so fed up with delusion here i can't discern what's bait and what's truły retarded anymore cuz it all sounds the same

[fickle forge]

Be nice, or you won't be getting my 4k Frappe Mortelle

Take it or leave it

[muted surge]

you have the biggest delusions!

[wooden grove]

there is no difference

[wheat jay]

Thing is, I can find other warriors 👀

That play both specs

[wooden grove]

I'm baiting you but @fickle forge is just truly retarded a warrior

[wheat jay]

You on the hand have a history of your teammates disappearing

Except me of course

Feral and mage hoes ain't loyal

Hunters are

[fickle forge]

Who? Eto?

[wheat jay]

Well, warrior is the most played class in the game

Plenty of fish in the ocean

[scarlet barn]

Thats a no no word

Smh

[scarlet barn]

👋

[wooden grove]

@scarlet barn fixed

[muted surge]

are you guys hyped for war in df ?

i got told its gonna be s+

[wooden grove]

i bet kargish told you that

[scarlet barn]

Dont ask isov

[raw summit]

more content

[muted surge]

seems like we can kill people in mere seconds

through warlock 400k shield and his 600k hp

[scarlet barn]

Its always great with these people

[blissful lagoon]

https://wowanalytica.com/statistics/region/us

More middle of the road than most played.

[scarlet barn]

They never stop giving me joy

[wooden grove]

once you cop that 4 pc its gonna be HUGE

[fickle forge]

Something to give us #pvp while we can't play pre-patch

😎 👍

[muted surge]

ye the 5% dmg kek

[raw summit]

"people"

[wooden grove]

honestly no surprise druid and paladin over took hunter in SL as most played

[raw summit]

bubble wings toll win

[muted surge]

what ddoes count as played tho

[wooden grove]

convoke win

[muted surge]

just having the char?

[wheat jay]

You got the job ez

Press W and do rotation

[scarlet barn]

I can be your hero baby

[fickle forge]

The first time Artji trinkets a Solar Beam, he'll be stuck finding a new warrior

[wheat jay]

You leapt to me, then used intervene, then we lost cuz I wasn't the one they went on

Bruh

[fickle forge]

Nothing beats you trinketing Solar Beam

[scarlet barn]

You both are specials

[scarlet barn]

Depends on data the site is using

[muted surge]

appearnlty

if you are in the wall thingy from evoker

you cant throw your spear

i love the game

[lean burrow]

did you play S1? cause that's false

[near delta]

[scarlet barn]

did you play S1? cause that's false

[fickle forge]

did you play S1? cause that's false

[thorn herald]

ive gotten 60k ms and 100k executes while bursting on beta

[muted surge]

well im more talking about consitent dmg

[thorn herald]

does anyont have consistent damage now

[muted surge]

heal evoker :D

[thorn herald]

so reroll preservation

:^)

[lean burrow]

did you play S1? cause that's false

[scarlet barn]

@raw summit

He rerolling again

[wooden grove]

did you play S1? cause that's false

[wooden grove]

he was frost before necrotic wounds in 9.1

[scarlet barn]

I am not even talking to you. And you missed the point because you are new to skyhold

Checkmate

[wooden grove]

gonna have to call you Hans now

[scarlet barn]

Call me daddy

[wheat crane]

Well then.

Shits getting weird in pvp

Love to see it.

[scarlet barn]

Been like that for weeks now

Or years i should say

[wheat crane]

Definitely years

[thorn herald]

ill call you mommy

[thorn herald]

thank you mommy

[raw summit]

[lean burrow]

what's solo shuffle rating reset bug?

[sharp meteor]

Dunno, but it has something to do with swapping specs.

[muted surge]

very suprsing that losing all your rating was not intentional

[sharp meteor]

The different rating per spec thing is new so makes sense they'd have some hiccups.

[elfin surge]

[potent tulip]

where can we find what talents people are using for pvp?

[sharp meteor]

The usual stats websites will probably show what people are logging out in eventually, with a way of quickly importing it.

There's just no way of knowing outside of uploading logs or stuff like squadov what people play into various matchups.

Which is why it's good to take what you'll find with a grain of salt.

[lean burrow]

is there any reason to not take fast footwork talent?

I noticed mud shared builds without that juicy 5% movespeed talent

[cinder thorn]

Yes the reason would be there is something better to talent into

I think in pvp you either slowed or not and enemy either slowed or not

I don't know if 5% run speed is worth it

[wheat forge]

Will the DF change where pvp ilvl isn't applied when playing with WM on be active on the SL pvp gear too? e.g. when leveling to 70?

[fickle forge]

Most likely

But doesn't matter too much either way

[sage raptor]

No

It doesn't on beta atm

[wooden grove]

Anyone think the PvP gear change will make PvP more popular or will less grind make it less active?

[twilit ridge]

new 2 wow pvp swap 2 warr cuz broken whole xpac lol any1 have best build?

Just updated losa

Old priest main here

Any good warr streamers?

[wheat jay]

more popular 100%

NOONE wo knew how grindy it was wanted to play it xD

[old basalt]

also looking for a good prepatch solo queue build if anyone has one

[full quiver]

If you go to char creation page and click demon hunter, that'll be your best bet

[candid tusk]

dat burn tho

[old basalt]

fair

fair

[primal flax]

40 vers and DBTS up and still got fkn melted XD

[muted surge]

did you have your IP up

[white briar]

Not tonnes of activity atm, but Tay, Rio (Djrio), and Joefernandes have been streaming solo shuffle/beta recently.

[scarlet barn]

the entire solo shuffle is a bug.
you can't queue for anniversary alterac because of solo shuffle
you don't get to upgrade your items in solo shuffle
you don't get seasonal achievements in solo shuffle
if you win solo shuffle you win 11 rating
if you loose, you loose 80
people with 45k hp are your healers in solo shuffle
tanks are in solo shuffle
queue for solo shuffle takes 75% of the solo shuffle experience (until declined by one guy that went to pee and back to the lab again)

and i'm not talking about the honor and conquest rewards.
and i'm not talking about your mates insulting you for game you just had versus them.

[sharp meteor]

it's such a cool mode

[muted surge]

tbf

there is a ilvl req for ranked

upgrade got fixed, i could queue for the anniversary alterac

mmr is fucked and i doubt thy gonna fix it

[thick reef]

i dont get destro, was watching jaggz and he hit a 48k into a 72k with that same build

[copper hare]

Most toxic bracket I have witnessed in this game. The potential is there but that shit for sure won't save wow pvp

[muted surge]

you guys realy expierencing toxicity ?

maybe my rating is too low

[copper hare]

Toxic bracket doesn't mean that the players are toxic. Bugs, bad mmr and cr loss, tanks, low punishment for leavers are really toxic aswell tbh

[muted surge]

oh yea i thought that was more of a reference to razonkos last point

[sharp meteor]

put tanks in as dps then address the leaver thing (or maybe that sorts itself out) and it'll b chill

[muted surge]

(remove tanks)

[sharp meteor]

ideally ya but they don't do that

if tanks are put in as dps most of them quit or roll dps

[thick reef]

i hate toxic partners in pvp

get mad over the smallest shit

[muted surge]

just gotta have the league mentality

[thick reef]

yea

[muted surge]

i dont even read chat :D

[thick reef]

smart

[copper hare]

But I think the fucked up thing aswell is that Shadowlands literally wiped out every healer in this game. I mean I already saw that in the LFG, but that's the main reason you have 15 Min queues as dps. There is probably 1 healer for 20 dps

[muted surge]

healing just isnt fun

[thick reef]

Ppl dont wanna go thru the shit and stress of healing in a expansion like this

[muted surge]

i was main heal few expansions ago and it was a blast

[thick reef]

yeah its not fun

[muted surge]

but now its just not fun anymore

[thick reef]

it rly isnt

[muted surge]

and with the incredbile high burst

[thick reef]

not fun + stressful

yea

[muted surge]

its so stressfull

[thick reef]

cc as well

[muted surge]

especially if you get flamed

bcs you didnt catch that the monk gonna oneshot someone

[thick reef]

thats annoying like what r u suppposed to do

if someone dies 100-0

[muted surge]

yea

[thick reef]

yeah

its stressfgul to have to vs a class taht can do that or a class that can cc u so much to the point where u cant heal

[copper hare]

Healing is horrible. Your mate doesn't Insta use every def CD in the game, he's dead. There was also way too many fucked up oneshot things this expansion that didn't get fixed for months

I don't blame the healers

[thick reef]

legit they didnt do enough effort to make the entire 1 shot go away

just small nerfs

[copper hare]

R1 gameplay is obviously different because good trading and team play but the average glad elo was such a toxic experience. I probably liked the dampen s1 season in Bfa more than everything in SL

[thick reef]

i enjoy dampen games more

[muted surge]

atleast we get another dampen season in df :)

well, against few comps at least

[thick reef]

yeah

[full quiver]

Dampening where your mistakes slowly lose you the game

Instead of instantly

😎😎

[sharp meteor]

ya hp buff might help this

[thick reef]

prob

just hate how even at the highest mmr ppl still sometimes got 1 shot

[sharp meteor]

uhhh games where a mistake cause you to fall behind feel a bit less stressful than losing insta

[thick reef]

cuz they didnt use every cd

[muted surge]

eh idk, monk can kill me in a 2 sec stun

[full quiver]

Dk gonna be an unkillable juggernaut with that hp buff if they don't nerf will of necrop

[sharp meteor]

i think it made low mmr games feel too bad for most people

[muted surge]

dk has like 100k more hp than war, its funny

[sharp meteor]

they die don't know why and quit

[full quiver]

Lol

[thick reef]

yea agre

[sharp meteor]

bottom of the ladder falls off, nobody wants to heal

etc

[copper hare]

I swear rmp was insanely toxic in that regard. You can play perfect for 10 minutes, then fuck up one trinket on one of your team mates and you lose, all that because they could live forever

[thick reef]

yeah forgot every rmp game was at least 6 min

sometimes less

[sharp meteor]

very tedious

one overlap is death in 30 seconds

[thick reef]

yea

[muted surge]

i just realy hope that they fix the mmr issues in solo

and some class tuning for pvp

it could be a cool expansion for pvp

[wheat jay]

It most likely will

Pve will get a balance patch first tho

[muted surge]

pve is already somewhat fine

but pvp, oh boy

its not realy fun on beta atm

[copper hare]

They actually release normal/heroic and mythic raids the same week now. There will likely be less tuning than before now. Usually there was always a big tuning week after the first heroic week, that's gone now

[muted surge]

thats also gonna be interesting

[white briar]

anyone got any idea who's the highest arms on prepatch? solo shuffle etc

[wheat jay]

They won't be doing big nerfs/buffs during race either

Most likely one week after race

Or two

[copper hare]

Yeah that's why tuning and meta at the beginning of the season will prolly stay for a while

Unless the first raid is like piss easy

[wheat jay]

We'll see

No way to predict anything now

[muted surge]

good thing that arms is in a great spot

[primal flax]

XD I mean when i get 1 shot in under a second with 2 instant cast not sure i coulda spammed that shit fast enough

[full quiver]

The benefit to dying fast is it being pretty xlear what was wrong lol

[primal flax]

This was full details death breakdown lol not much i coulda done atm

[muted surge]

i see still no ip

[primal flax]

had no one to hit IP with lol

[warped warren]

reflect or

?

[scarlet barn]

IP

[sharp meteor]

ya its in bis macro

[copper hare]

Play Heirmir soulbind in shuffles

[fossil mortar]

Is soloshuffle really all tank games and people leaving when losing - Or does it become better at lower MMR?

[primal flax]

this was BG i was in

[cinder thorn]

I was shitting myself when it started

[undone ermine]

https://tenor.com/view/shia_labeouf-clap-gif-12446003

[warped warren]

@elfin surge so i heard youre queueing with tanks huh?

@dekel

@thick reefunandbung

[elfin surge]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-and-chad-giga-chad-meme-gif-25598138

[cinder thorn]

The 1v2 queue is great fun

Blizzard must have faith in warriors

[elfin surge]

@wide pagoda buff war

[cinder thorn]

How much do you wanna bet these two will send that screenshot to blizzard and tell them to nerf warriors

[copper hare]

My god, arms is so fucking broken right now. How is that possible that they can just parry and avoid all my damage for 8 seconds before they die like rats? Nerf arms!!

[elfin surge]

My god, arms is so fucking broken right now. How is that possible that they can just parry and avoid all my damage for 8 seconds before they die like rats? Nerf arms!!

[warped warren]

My god, arms is so fucking broken right now. How is that possible that they can just parry and avoid all my damage for 8 seconds before they die like rats? Nerf arms!!

[scarlet barn]

My god, arms is so fucking broken right now. How is that possible that they can just parry and avoid all my damage for 8 seconds before they die like rats? Nerf arms!!

[near delta]

Let's go https://www.reddit.com/r/worldofpvp/comments/yo5q50/tanks_now_count_as_dps_in_solo_shuffle_on_beta/

[copper hare]

what, is that beta or

[raw summit]

As it says in title

It's in beta

[copper hare]

I'm old and blind, dont blame e

me

[iron basalt]

wtf is this drain soul BS

these locks are doing 100k dam to me in one second

[raw summit]

A delicate expression of skill and mastery over their class

[fallen bridge]

And four buttons, don’t forget the four buttons

[indigo barn]

Don't worry, maldiva will blame RMP and warlock will not be nerfed

[sharp meteor]

how long has deci bolt been around for

[obsidian loom]

I hope maldiva gets permaed for rmt

[indigo barn]

9.1 was when it became good?

Was busted until late beta

Then cov leggo came about

[thorn herald]

@elfin surge how hard does your overpower hit for

[elfin surge]

-5000

it heals the enemy

[cyan heath]

Is fury still pvp Meta or is it back to arms ?

[sharp meteor]

warlock or dk pick ur poison

[cyan heath]

that didnt help the question whatsoever

[elfin surge]

Arms feels better tbh

[sharp meteor]

hard to get idea of what's good now when havoc passively just does 3x the dmg

also can't speculate on df beyond fury being better if games are slow and arms if games are faster

[sage raptor]

I mean you asked about meta

[thorn herald]

why is this a thought process people have

[sharp meteor]

dmg profile and defensives

safest bet is probs practice arms

and if fury is better cool it plays itself

[craggy socket]

yall think ret/warr will still be a top tier comp

[craggy socket]

No shit just asking for thoughts not a predictions my friend plays a lot of ret

[earnest stone]

any1 can post their fury pvp build?

[sage raptor]

Top tier idk. But it's always been an at least good comp.

[thorn herald]

it will be fine maybe a bit weaker than slands because no conq banner for the ret

but ret does good damage and likes having an MS effect

24k ms into 21k condemn

hey man sometimes it works

[fickle forge]

You accidentally put a '2' there for your MS dmg

[knotty atlas]

34k?

[agile brook]

anyone got random arms pvp build? first time playing dont want to read much

or is it fine?

[steep inlet]

Your forgot essential things

Like fear

Intervene

Zerk rage

Same at right

[warped warren]

🥰

[lean burrow]

don't need parry cd reduction with conduits

instead of deep wounds healing sweeping strikes would be better I think

[thorn herald]

i was pretty surprised too

[fickle forge]

Prob not too surprising considering it's ilvl 267 leather you're hitting

[lean burrow]

what's this gigachad mount

[amber heron]

guys

fury or arms

im level 60 and i dont care if its the wrong answer just tell me

i gottaa pick 1 for df and commit

lotta people say fury is gay

[lean burrow]

outlaw

[copper hare]

don't do it!!!111

[amber heron]

mud and a bunch of r1 warriors hate fury

wdym dont do it

?

[copper hare]

don't just pick one!!!111

[amber heron]

bro after I set up my bars

and get the correct stats

im too lazy to switch

[copper hare]

bars these days swap automatically whenever you swap talent builds/specs

[lean burrow]

I don't think you understand how hard it is to play Fury Warrior. All this talk that we are "busted" and "constantly complaining for more buffs" just doesnt make sense. We are one of the few classes that FINALLY get to shine after all these years (looking at you MAGES ). Rotationally, its very complex for what we have to do to do "good" damage. Not only do we have to put Slaughterhouse on a lot of targets, we ALSO have to make sure our Crushing Blow is mashed AND our Winbringer is in the perfect angle to do ANY damage. We lose everything if enemies move at all. Classes like Mage and Hunter don't have to worry about enemies being smart like WE do. On top of all of this, the apm it takes to play Fury is more than any other class has ever been. We are constantly getting FLOODED with Crushing Blow charges and if we ever overcap, its gg (that means good game). When I'm playing fury, I'm never not pressing a button while mages get to sit there and hard cast Pyroblast (3 [three] second cast btw [by the way]). I'd like to see other people even try and compete with me as a Fury Warrior because they would crumble under the weight of all the responsibility, apm, and mental pressure it takes to pull off what I can do. Whatever, I'm out, I gotta go do some high queues now, pushing for that 2k (2,000 [two thousand]) rating, later nerds.

[amber heron]

is thaat a joke post

[raw summit]

Still played it tho cuz you gotta win games

[primal flax]

https://tenor.com/view/guy-arguing-guy-talking-to-wall-talking-brick-wall-gif-18667615

[copper hare]

If you're looking for the most min-maxed pre-patch builds available, go to your bathroom and take a long look in the mirror in order to reflect on the choices you've made in your life that brought you to this point.

[raw summit]

No he types really fast

[amber heron]

im not reading all that

[lean burrow]

[primal flax]

Play what you enjoy. Like me on Dwarf Arms

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[amber heron]

i just made a human war bc orc will be not as good i heard

[copper hare]

dwarf is insane for DF, you got it all right

[amber heron]

dwarf is ok at best its really just good into warlock anad rogue

[primal flax]

It is especially with that amazing beard

[copper hare]

I would play it aswell if I wasn't disgusted by the look of dwarfs

[primal flax]

Also the cleanse is amazing

[amber heron]

why not play dark iron?

isnt dark iron just better

[primal flax]

...

https://tenor.com/view/gun-loading-gun-cursed-emoji-mad-gif-24853374

[amber heron]

dark iron gives u the clease pluss a buff

[primal flax]

Take that back @copper hare

[amber heron]

cleanse

[primal flax]

I like the 10 mit more for pvp

[amber heron]

bro night elf war could be fun to shadowmelt sheep

but that is so like situational

[copper hare]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emsTgCFyyLM When I see dwarfs

[amber heron]

i think gnome is also good

[primal flax]

Dwarf better since you can cleanse so many dot or dmg setups

[primal flax]

I'm about to throw hands!

[copper hare]

https://tenor.com/view/world-of-warcraft-world-of-warcraft-classic-rogue-rogue-pv-p-gif-18999746

[primal flax]

Not to mention a ton of caster debuffs

[primal flax]

https://tenor.com/view/out-disappear-bye-vanished-gif-4932063

3 seconds later

After you show any signs of aggression

[lean burrow]

vs outlaw whole game

[amber heron]

alright ima just play arms bc execute hits harder and looks cooler

[primal flax]

Who needs magic when you got muscles and a bigass sword

[vocal torrent]

Does someone know if professions are big in DF? Like actually a difference in arena and not just a bit better for 2-3 weeks? Think I read something about BS CC reduc, but can’t find it anymore….cheers

[daring wadi]

What do you guys think is better; Grim Toll or Darkmoon Card: Berserker! ? In Wrath I mean.

[raw summit]

for wrath u best ask the guys in the classic discord

their link is pinned in #mop-discussion

[daring wadi]

Thank you

[placid flume]

Anyone has a link to a decent pvp spec for prepatch ?

[elfin surge]

@placid flume

[placid flume]

Thanks 🙂

[placid flume]

why is Venthyr mandatory though ?

[fickle forge]

Because MS and Exe go 📉

[elfin surge]

Armor values are really high in prepatch so the only ability that does damage rn is condemn. (because it's magic)

Execute build to buff the only button that does damage is really the only good build

warrior bad

[raw summit]

Level 60 condemn hits harder than level 70 exe

[lean burrow]

( )

[shy steeple]

Anyone got string for arms build on beta ?

[spice hornet]

Good morning @elfin surge

[warped warren]

@elfin surge good morning tank queuer 🥰

[elfin surge]

yoo

[undone pumice]

@elfin surge good morning axe icon man

[elfin surge]

[muted surge]

You should pin that

[elfin surge]

@knotty atlas

[muted surge]

#mud4sf

[muted surge]

[elfin surge]

[fickle forge]

#mud4sf

[robust hearth]

Ima miss

Because it won't be in dragonflight y I'm retiring the warrior

[lean burrow]

mud4sf?

[elfin surge]

yes

[muted surge]

Mwahi prob knows something about mud that we don’t

[elfin surge]

[knotty atlas]

I got mud on Mud.

[elfin surge]

[knotty atlas]

Also, #mwahi4sf.

[raw summit]

🙏

[muted surge]

Yea demote mwahi when

[knotty atlas]

SF is a promotion.

[raw summit]

Think so?

[fickle forge]

It really is

Indeedo

[knotty atlas]

Yes.
TC = a ton of pings from people who don't understand the topics but want to argue regardless.
Val'kyr = a ton of pings about stupid stuff
SF = Peace and quiet.

[elfin surge]

@knotty atlas help get a sf pvp rep

[knotty atlas]

I told you

Beat me in a duel.

[raw summit]

Never seen a tc ping KEKW

[fickle forge]

@knotty atlas

Now you have

[knotty atlas]

They check the orange name and ping directly by name.

[raw summit]

@knotty atlas pinged

[elfin surge]

[knotty atlas]

Who's that?

[raw summit]

I dont look at prot but archi gets a bunch of dumb ones

[fickle forge]

Kekw

[elfin surge]

Mike

[knotty atlas]

?

[fickle forge]

CEO

[elfin surge]

Mike Ybarra ???

[knotty atlas]

Cool.

He also can't get SF.

[elfin surge]

Cool.

[fickle forge]

Qwik bench too low

Can we get Mud SF when he surpasses 2pl8 bench?

[elfin surge]

Qwik is a god

[knotty atlas]

Also..how would i had to know that "Qwik" = that Mike dude?

[elfin surge]

cuz thats his name

[knotty atlas]

Okay..and from where should i have known that Qwik is his name?

[elfin surge]

[knotty atlas]

Okay, so.

I don't Twitter.

[elfin surge]

Qwik is his in game name too

I think he got mythic + r1 as war

[knotty atlas]

Did you 3's then?

[elfin surge]

nope

[knotty atlas]

Wait, you're NA.
How are you gonna beat me in a duel then?

[elfin surge]

You're eu?

[knotty atlas]

Yes.

[elfin surge]

[knotty atlas]

Cmon.
Everyone knows that EU > NA in the PvP scene.

🎣

[formal creek]

waiting for some balance notes everyday for war/dh

[elfin surge]

@spice hornet

[raw summit]

Mike nuts 😂😂 gottem

[robust hearth]

It's Mike Ybarra the new president of blizzard

Bring back the 5v5 bracket!

[spice hornet]

Good morning @elfin surge

[elfin surge]

i streamed yesterday are u proud

[spice hornet]

Yes I missed you

[desert falcon]

wait this is him? https://check-pvp.fr/us/Onyxia/Qwik
cant see him pvp

[spice hornet]

I know our boy @thick reefbug was seething

[tropic wharf]

How come some players are running signet of tormented kings on a ring slot still? Fury warriors

[elfin surge]

[elfin surge]

thats him

hes in my guild

[desert falcon]

lol

so you are in contact with blizzards okayy

make warrior great again

arms*

[muted surge]

How did you think mud got r1

[desert falcon]

i see

[muted surge]

Actual stat increase for poor mud

[elfin surge]

[desert falcon]

what do you think best race will be for warrior if they keep 15% reduction

[elfin surge]

orc prob good still

but gnome looking better now...

[desert falcon]

hmm, thuught about that, especially as arms.
what about human? i dont really like to play no trinket but idk how goood is it?

[raw summit]

not being able to trinket a blind

yikes

[muted surge]

Nelf bis

Just dodge the blind

[desert falcon]

you meant disarm 😄

[elfin surge]

personally not a fan of human

[muted surge]

Why do you play human then

[elfin surge]

I don't.

I am orc.

[lean burrow]

who are you irl then?

[full quiver]

A gremlin

[fickle forge]

Sus

[full quiver]

😎😎😎😎

[fickle forge]

Rogue main

[elfin surge]

orc

[muted surge]

That’s an ugly orc

And an ugly human at the same time

[elfin surge]

The mud mog is the best mog

[scarlet barn]

https://tenor.com/view/mud-faceplant-splat-mondays-funny-gif-3528154

[cosmic yarrow]

Been playin some solo shuffle on beta and I got some mixed feelings. Fury sustain/survivabilty feels very op but the dmg doesn’t seem good enough compared to classes like dh/lock/sp etc. doesn’t seem worth being immortal if u don’t put out enough pressure

And arms just feels like a potato

[thorn herald]

It's the anniversary mount pretty certain you can get it rn

[full quiver]

How get

[thorn herald]

Idk I've gotten 100k executes lol

[thorn herald]

If u go to the caverns of time and I think there's a quest from chrome where u queue for the old raid bosses

[wheat jay]

Mud's a skinny kultiran

[thorn herald]

Filthy green skin btw

[full quiver]

Ahh ok I did see that quest, thanks!

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-lord-of-the-rings-gollum-no-nope-gif-4741696

[thorn herald]

Enjoy it's a badass mount

[full quiver]

This is what mud looks like irl

[hard vector]

Can you get elite xmog from solo Q in DF s1 and is it still 1800 ? 😅 do we know anything about that yet?

[robust hearth]

Qwik ain't a pvp dude he pushes +24 mythic keystones and sell them as boosts

We should be able to get glad in rated solo shuffle make it happen

[hard hound]

lol

[robust hearth]

And in 2s and rated bgs

[hard hound]

get glad at 1800 kappa

[robust hearth]

Nah top% get glad

And bring back actual unique pvp sets not recolor pve tier sets

[hard hound]

unic pvp sets are only from vanilla

[robust hearth]

Nah there was unique sets durring WoD at least in season 1

There was unique sets in wrath cata and MoP as well

[hard hound]

in my memories alwaise recolor exist but unic set i'm not sure

[robust hearth]

It was recolor in tbc and then post season1 of WoD

[hard hound]

but

[robust hearth]

No buts

[hard hound]

i dont fucking care about color , i want just balance

[robust hearth]

I'm not talking about color I'm talking about actual unique designs on the pvp gear

Tht r way different than the pve tier sets

[hard hound]

let them fix balance before

[robust hearth]

It will never be fixed

So give up on that

The closest they had to every spec and class being balanced was season 4 of MoP

[full quiver]

No cause then I need to pve if it looks cool

[muted surge]

Do you really want Tank glads?

[full quiver]

🤣

[hard hound]

make glad can be buy with 10 token

[muted surge]

That’s already a thing

[hard hound]

not every seasons

sometime glad can't be boosted

some player are too mediocre

[thorn herald]

What season was glad not buyable

[hard hound]

s1 sl

you cant boost anyone to get glad

[robust hearth]

Then go do PVE

[hard hound]

pve is for pussy

real men pvp

[tropic wharf]

Hey guys how come fury pvp ppl are using signet on ring.. I though signet didn’t work anymore

[robust hearth]

Who tf cares if a tank gets glad jfc u act like as if yall couldn't play the prot class yourself but u chose not to over some petty pride it's the most stupidest argument as ppl saying "oh u play fotm ur class only does 2 buttons to push to win while I do way more than you!" 🙄

[raw summit]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898720803586048/1037744587671883927/HyperCondemnS.gif

this is way better

[hard hound]

haha yeah venthyr warr wase 1 buton push

but not all cov

[warped warren]

[elfin surge]

Who tf cares if a tank gets glad jfc u act like as if yall couldn't play the prot class yourself but u chose not to over some petty pride it's the most stupidest argument as ppl saying "oh u play fotm ur class only does 2 buttons to push to win while I do way more than you!" 🙄

[full quiver]

Mud loves queueing with tanks

[raw summit]

Who tf cares if a tank gets glad jfc u act like as if yall couldn't play the prot class yourself but u chose not to over some petty pride it's the most stupidest argument as ppl saying "oh u play fotm ur class only does 2 buttons to push to win while I do way more than you!" 🙄

[desert falcon]

Oh well i believe blizzard will remove tanks, they cant stop us, everyone talking about it.
Just make tanks fight against only tanks, you will see how funny is that

[thorn herald]

isnt itj ust 50 wins at 2400

anyway who cares

[hard hound]

2 pro player cant boost a dogshit player even for 50 win a 2400

[thorn herald]

???

they get a third and pilot

[hard hound]

i will never share my blizz acount

and if the guy log on your acount you can get ban for sharing

[thorn herald]

im glad u dont buy boosts or pilots lol

[hard hound]

i dont need to

[thorn herald]

👍

[muted surge]

Great that you won’t

But that doesn’t change the fact that you can always buy a glad boost

[hard hound]

not in selfplay

[elfin surge]

can

[thorn herald]

im p sure 2 r1s can boost a moron too

[hard hound]

yeah but not every seasons

some seasons are harders to play

[sharp meteor]

def can

[sharp meteor]

sure but screen buyers

[elfin surge]

yeah i didnt even bother with glad sales sl s4

[hard hound]

2 r1 vs 3 glad can win ? i'm not sure

[sharp meteor]

u don't even have to be r1 to drag somebody to glad

just have them be on something like fury

[full quiver]

lol

[sharp meteor]

i think i remember chanimalz self playing some mechagnome mage back in bfa who hadn't pvp'd before and he'd just stand there and cast gpyro

[thorn herald]

kek

[steep inlet]

do you really think some tanks didnt get glad ?

some tanks got R1 even

[muted surge]

Zzz

That’s not the point

Gotta fuel the tank hate

[elfin surge]

fuck tanks

@vagrant saddle

[vagrant saddle]

I mean, if that's what you like to do. To each their own!

[reef flare]

do shadowpriests have some kind of punish for dispelling their debuffs? I swear I keep getting auto-horrified every time I stoneform

[vagrant saddle]

Yes, Vampiric Embrace

[sharp meteor]

Vampiric Touch does a little horrify when dispelled.

It's like UA in that it's a dot with a cast time but unlike UA doesn't kill your healer.

[elfin surge]

[thorn herald]

dispel protection when dispels have an 8 sec cd

:^)

[sharp meteor]

queuing into dh/dk/rsham as aff or shadow is like a fate worse than death

[undone pumice]

queuing rn at all tbh

[vagrant saddle]

Be mad more bro 😎

[elfin surge]

Be mad more bro 😎

[vagrant saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-okay-umm-awkward-situation-huh-gif-5850917

[sharp meteor]

ya good time to be chillin

[graceful ginkgo]

Tanks supposedly count as DPS in Solo on Beta

[craggy socket]

It's my bday and im quing solo shuffle

i guess im a loser

rip

[sharp meteor]

ya very optimistic about that as long as they limit it to 1 tank per shuffle

[dusky parrot]

Warrior glads are the only glads I can respect tbh. The rest are just irl assholes but for some divine favor warrior glads are mad chill

[sharp meteor]

also psure a lot of healers are just going to int games with tanks lmao

[muted surge]

Yes.

[sharp meteor]

tank with two dps format was SO FUCKING BAD MAN

[sharp meteor]

lol

happy bday

[graceful ginkgo]

I am going to continue /Logout whenever I see a tank in queue

Ez

[muted surge]

Except the r1 wars. Bunch of holes

[craggy socket]

Honestly this is the best class discord hands down

none even come close

[graceful ginkgo]

Most chill discord is Shaman imho

[dusky parrot]

Rank 1’s have to be nice to the camera or Bobby gives them a spanking

[muted surge]

The disc that’s split into 2 discord?

[dusky parrot]

POV: you play arms even though people berate you for not doing fury meta

[graceful ginkgo]

Not really, the second one isnt as active

[dusky parrot]

[lean burrow]

can you share mount name pls, can't find it

[thorn herald]

obsidian worldbreaker i believe

[muted surge]

Nah that was 15th

Now you can get the one from last year

Hyppo something something

[lean burrow]

ty

[muted surge]

You can buy the worldbreaker form bmha tho

For like 2m last time I saw it

[lean burrow]

[sharp oar]

yo

not to be a total degenerate, but i'm seeing a lot potential in some lovely prot warrior oneshot burst

anybody looking into that?

[raw summit]

rextroy andies

[earnest stone]

What's Fury Anni build for pvp

[raw summit]

not anni for pvp

anni is an aoe thing

[sharp meteor]

ya corehound and worldbreaker on bmah

[lean burrow]

how so?

[elfin surge]

?

[muted surge]

!

[worldly snow]

Anyone have a good build for fury pvp?

[raw summit]

buffs ww

[lean burrow]

oh

[sage raptor]

Never met a nice warr

[earnest stone]

I don't think anyone's posted a single talent build lol I'll post mine later since everyone is terrified to

[sage raptor]

"I'll target call"
doesn't target call and leaps into the enemy team dying almost immediately

They're dumb on top of that

[muted surge]

seems like you played rbg with me

[sage raptor]

Seems like you stick to one target in arenas to me

I find it funny how the good guys won every single war

[fickle forge]

Somebody should really invent pins am I right

[earnest stone]

Uh what? U mean the icyveins links or muds 1 old post of a build with 0 accompanying text or discussion?

[muted surge]

theres text

[earnest stone]

They're all outdated and thats a website why don't u try posting ur own build lmfao

[muted surge]

gotta play venthyr

but what kind of additional info do you want?

[earnest stone]

Icyveins isn't ppl posting their own builds and a build is not builds my points still stand

Why don't u post ur own build right now are u that scared dude?

Yikes

[muted surge]

what

[earnest stone]

☠️

[wary harbor]

[elfin surge]

@earnest stone

[fickle forge]

Thefuck do you mean I don't post my own build???

[wary harbor]

you scared @fickle forge admit it

[muted surge]

i dont get his toxicity

[fickle forge]

I'd bring you a guide, but I'm too scared to post it sorry bro

[earnest stone]

Yeah I don't see it

[fickle forge]

Then enjoy my guy

[elfin surge]

and so it begins...

[muted surge]

yes fuck tanks

[sharp meteor]

i mean the 2 tank posters had to start using classic chars

to obscure their lack of exp

and give the impression there was more than 2 of them

[hard hound]

tanks shouldn't be able to use and see this chanel too

[sharp meteor]

psure what happens if tanks get put in as dps is

that they lose their fast queues

and win a lot less

so their participation falls off, like on ladder

EFFECTIVELY eliminating them but not outright disabling them

(which is what blizz won't do)

[steep inlet]

mud :(

[elfin surge]

a lot of the people who play tank dont main it, they alt it because its free easy rating

[steep inlet]

tbh prot war isnt toxic

[muted surge]

so like the good ol indirect racism card

[steep inlet]

like guardian or prot pal

[muted surge]

prot war is just dog shit compared to those

[sage raptor]

Why do yall care about an arena skirmish equivalent when you'll just queue 2s and 3s?

[steep inlet]

yep guardian and prot pal are op

prot war is just ok/good

[muted surge]

which is the main issue people have

[elfin surge]

it has been before but yeah prot pal and g druid are the typical tank specs for arena

[muted surge]

like if you get a prot pal or druid, your chance is just way way higher than on prot war for example

and the inbalance sucks

[sharp meteor]

prot warr seems good into physical stuff mediocre into everything else

pala and bear super strong

veng does nothing

[steep inlet]

yep sadly

[elfin surge]

when was the last time u saw a tank dh

[steep inlet]

i'm 2200 in soloQ atm, i just massively peel mates

[sharp meteor]

legit not once the only spec i haven't seen LMAO

[steep inlet]

and do some dmg

[sharp meteor]

i even saw a bdk playing with an aff

[steep inlet]

shield charge does good too

[sharp meteor]

like budget unh/demo

haven't seen veng

[steep inlet]

and if you didnt knew guys

shield charge stun isnt on DR

so i make 8 sec stuns

[sharp meteor]

prot might rise up if all teams are physical and/or they nerf the dmg taken thing

[steep inlet]

im main arms, but yeah it feel shit

[sharp meteor]

cringe bear doing like 30k dps

[steep inlet]

i agree now

yeah bear is out of control

fuck them

[sage raptor]

So yall just like being mad? Lol

[sharp meteor]

bear needs its own tank ladder if they don't put tanks in as dps lmao

[sharp meteor]

?

shuffle is cool and i want it to be fun

tank shuffles aren't fun

think poopoo, think

[sage raptor]

I think

I use shuffle for fast honor/conquest and healers slow me down

[steep inlet]

tanks are in dps slot

in beta

[sage raptor]

We really should wait until we're 70 and don't have sl modifiers before we make big decisions.

[muted surge]

6:0 bear pog

but tbh i dont think i was in a singl tank queue on beta sofar

maybe bcs the queue time is like 30 mins

[sharp meteor]

ya hope it stays like that

dedicated tank players can actually play their spec

there's only like a dozen of them

but tank shuffles won't be prevalent

[steep inlet]

yup

[sharp meteor]

imo best case scenario short of tanks being outright banned/disabled

which was an unrealistic hope as it's out of line with how blizz does things

[elfin surge]

I don't think you understand how hard it is to play Fury Warrior. All this talk that we are "busted" and "constantly complaining for more buffs" just doesnt make sense. We are one of the few classes that FINALLY get to shine after all these years (looking at you MAGES ). Rotationally, its very complex for what we have to do to do "good" damage. Not only do we have to put Slaughterhouse on a lot of targets, we ALSO have to make sure our Crushing Blow is mashed AND our Winbringer is in the perfect angle to do ANY damage. We lose everything if enemies move at all. Classes like Mage and Hunter don't have to worry about enemies being smart like WE do. On top of all of this, the apm it takes to play Fury is more than any other class has ever been. We are constantly getting FLOODED with Crushing Blow charges and if we ever overcap, its gg (that means good game). When I'm playing fury, I'm never not pressing a button while mages get to sit there and hard cast Pyroblast (3 [three] second cast btw [by the way]). I'd like to see other people even try and compete with me as a Fury Warrior because they would crumble under the weight of all the responsibility, apm, and mental pressure it takes to pull off what I can do. Whatever, I'm out, I gotta go do some high queues now, pushing for that 2k (2,000 [two thousand]) rating, later nerds.

[sly walrus]

Who tf cares if a tank gets glad jfc u act like as if yall couldn't play the prot class yourself but u chose not to over some petty pride it's the most stupidest argument as ppl saying "oh u play fotm ur class only does 2 buttons to push to win while I do way more than you!" 🙄

[steep inlet]

:D

[full quiver]

kargish is a scared little bitch

won't even post his build

[full quiver]

pay me 1000g or i leak photos of u queueing with a tank

[elfin surge]

[full quiver]

[fickle forge]

can someone pro make me a macro please i need help with warrior
something like this plz
/castsequence reset=20 Kidney shot, Garrote, Rupture, Blood Fury, Shiv, Vendetta, Sepsis, Vanish, Fan of Knives, Envenom, Multilate, Envenom
but i need one for furry or arms plz n ty

[elfin surge]

wat

[fickle forge]

This guy is a true anime villain

This is his introduction arc

[muted surge]

true warrior main

[hard hound]

Jealous ppl unable to think by themselves

[sly walrus]

Looking for the non existent build discussion as the reality sets in that 99.99999% of the discord isn’t going to post their own build and discuss but rather are simply waiting for a icy veins post so they can update “their” builds how disappointing