pvp

[fickle forge]

Imo, low CD shields have no skill expression

[wheat jay]

thus "some" being a keyword there haha

overall, good change for it to go away

and impending in

also, y'all wanna talk about survi hunter having 15 yards charge, 30 yards harpoon, 40 yards charge, and 50 yards charge?

shits amazing

imma be a real monkey

[high sparrow]

no

nobody here believes me when i say otoher classes are getting even more overloaded than warrior

[fickle forge]

KFC is back for sure this time

[wheat jay]

not even overloaded tbh

its gonna be similar to what it is now in terms of damage

the burst will be more controlled tho

[fickle forge]

Let's be fair though, unless we're undertuned, the potential pressure DF arms has is huge

[wheat jay]

rather than relying on rng

[high sparrow]

not denying that

but the reason arms isnt s tier right now is we die to air

not really a pressure issue

[fickle forge]

Eh Idk

Arms doesn't feel awful Imo

Fury's just fool proof, maybe you're too used to perma Dstance and being able to wall in stun

[wheat jay]

so, what we said since it was nerfed?

bad warriors cried cuz they relied on arms being broken beyond belief in s1 and s2

[fickle forge]

I've always mained fury warrior man

[wheat jay]

i don't mean you

i mean 90% of people here

like certain mop enjoyer that cried for ages that "reeeeeeeeeeeee i hate fury" but still played it

[sharp meteor]

arms was a bit of a rough go last season

[frank knoll]

Arms is fun

I don’t like Fury now that it’s FOTM. I only played it in season 2 to be a hipster

[near delta]

Can we get conquest boxes before the last week of the season? lol

Alt gearing is rough af rn

[frank knoll]

Yeah it’s ass

I’m about to just log onto wrath and farm all of the bad DKs

[near delta]

My alt has like 76k health and loses just about ever solo shuffle and BGs take forever

[frank knoll]

Yeah then in BGs your undergeared alt will get nuked by 120k hp mm hunters from 40 yd

[quiet furnace]

Lf mates for 3s, unholy dk 2400/2100xp currently 1850 in 3s, https://check-pvp.fr/eu/Draenor/Dampgodx EU

[raw summit]

tabard doesnt match the mog

[copper hare]

Its actually insane how druids think they do fancy plays when they clone but in fact they clone your whole cds

xd

[quiet furnace]

[spice hornet]

2s hero rdruids are an interesting beast

[copper hare]

dh no blur, no trinket

I avatar, cs, spear, stormbolt

druid literally clones dh

tripple dr

and he probably thinks that was a brilliant clone off stormbolt

[spice hornet]

Wish half of their kit kept them in combat when they used it, nothing worse than getting deep rooted spammed, clone spammed, stealth stun multiple times, into vortex, back into deep root spam while@the ape BM spams cobra on you

[past jolt]

you said you wonder if healers get it.. i said EVERY THING THAT CASTS GETS IT BRO

[sage raptor]

Even blood dk?

[near delta]

Curious if melee gets anything lol

[past jolt]

weak trolling

u 2

workon it together

in a private sesison

[sage raptor]

Well you said everything that casts and bdk casts blooddrinker

Sooooo

[past jolt]

i wish reacts were still allowed here

that post deserved only a single react and im said i had to say anything more

[lucid walrus]

reacts lasted all of an hour

[fickle forge]

They were allowed for like an hour back then

[sage raptor]

Am I wrong though? Lol

[spice hornet]

Why they remove reactions

[sage raptor]

Tocksick

[spice hornet]

Kinda lame they aren’t allowed along with other server emojis. Just ban people who put weird shit

[sage raptor]

Ig idk

[wheat crane]

Because this server is full of degenerates

[past jolt]

idk, they allow pics but not reacts

i feel like pics can be way worse if uncensored

[lean burrow]

what about gifs

[spice hornet]

Lol yeah most other discords are the other way around. Can do reacts and other emojis but no pics

[coarse turtle]

how do beat afflock?

[elder wigeon]

kick life drain

[past jolt]

in 2's or 3's

drastically different strategies

[coarse turtle]

3s

Playing fury/boom/holy into typically ele/aff or aff/mage was almost guaranteed loss for us around 1700

I was trying to go warbringer double time to stick and if I saw the Casty circle go down I’d intimidate the life drain

While focusing down lock

The times I went sb I felt like I couldn’t make contact and they’d reset after the first go and kill us then

Most of the time I could get in and isn’t gateway but if they knew what they were doing we’d just fall over

[past jolt]

Makes sense

ur comp has like no ranged interrupts

but also lacks the raw dmg of like a ret warr who also lacks t

that

[coarse turtle]

Ah gotcha. We just threw together what our raid mains were so wasn’t sure if it was super viable

So either ranged int or nuke comp to beat aff?

[past jolt]

are u fury

[coarse turtle]

Yeah

[past jolt]

idk man just play with a ret

this isnt the meta for b tier stuff

[simple rock]

lol your advice is just to play a different comp?

[past jolt]

ive seen that comp played by r1 players on stream loooks very bad

[coarse turtle]

It was fun, but I was just wondering if I was missing some kinda talent or cheeky spell reflect info since I don’t know warlock kit from personal play

Didn’t expect to get much past 1800 or anything

[simple rock]

@coarse turtle play stormbolt with boomkin. Stun KT rootbeam healer goes every 1min
your healer can cc after rootbeam
boomkin should decurse on cd and be cloning on their cds off DR
reflect UA when it's casted on you or after echoing shock is casted on you
tell your healer to dispel flameshock when there's no UA on a target

[past jolt]

that things on all targets at all times !!

[simple rock]

if you're playing no comms it's kinda tough coordinating with boomy at lower xp

[coarse turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/creed-creed-the-office-creed-picture-creed-the-office-picture-take-picture-gif-24939232

Writing this down, a lot of helpful info. We’re just transitioning from pve heros and lacking a lot of fundamental pvp game sense

But we’re guildies in comms

[simple rock]

boomkin comps are like big goes every 1min with rootbeam and constantly cloning offtarget to peel during cds

[past jolt]

hes having issues against ele affliction with his comp tell him the truth of why

[simple rock]

he's playing at 1700

[coarse turtle]

It’s probably jungle diff tbh

[simple rock]

it's s tier comp sure but they shouldn't have issues climbing if they're playing on comms

low mmr locks are just paper

[coarse turtle]

Found that with some of them yes, they forget to agony and fell over

[past jolt]

1700 is the same meta as 2400

ret warr

dh dk

mixed in with random garbage

[simple rock]

yes but the players are not the same

[coarse turtle]

We beat a lot of ret warr

I think they just tried to press w

[simple rock]

they make way more mistakes and you learn and punish that's the game

[past jolt]

ret warr operates the similarly, they just get eaten up in the foodchain

by rmp

more easily

[coarse turtle]

I did get annihilated by sin rogues today though 😦

[past jolt]

wit ha comp like ret warr, ur not judged by the comps you counter, but by the comps that you struggle with, if you have a 0% win rate against sub rmp and turbo as ret warr and beat everything else, you'll be in that rival-duelist ballpark unless u proc a lucky q sesh

[coarse turtle]

Things to focus on against rmp is good disarms, spell reflects, and bladestorm cancelling stuns, ya?

[past jolt]

you can't really bank on the bladestorm part

spell reflects sure

but not reliable

kicks, disarms ye

u have less tools than arms to deal with rmp

so feels bad for u

[simple rock]

basically, yeah. when rogue presses dance > disarm or when he blinds healer bladestorm/disarm if you have a window. usually you're getting db sheeped so sometimes you wanna bladestorm that if they commit other cds on your teammates

it's a lot of pre disarm/fear/bladestorm when you notice they're starting a go

[past jolt]

Likely not going u ever btw

as u have a boomy on ur team

[coarse turtle]

Thanks for the info! I’m gonna go to bed but I’m gonna reference this a lot as we start to climb more. Usually just go for the transmog but I’m starting to really enjoy the arena

[past jolt]

night buddy

[coarse turtle]

Y’all are a lot friendlier than the people that whisper me after games sometimes

[gentle roost]

which stats are for warr again? Vers and Haste or Vers and Mastery?

[sharp meteor]

crit not great for fury

otherwise go ham

[elder wigeon]

vers > haste > mastery > crit for fury
vers > haste = crit > mastery as arms

imo

[gentle roost]

ty!

[lean burrow]

Wasn't haste up to 30% for fury

[elder wigeon]

if you prio versatility over haste you'll be about 30% with insignia

[marble bone]

So, how much hell is it to get into pvp now? As in gear up a pve toon.. got 290 something pve ilvl, but got a feeling people who have farmed full conq due to no cap will just outgear me from the start?

Making it hell playing to farm conq

[near delta]

As long as you weren't too high rated before conq got uncapped not too bad with that ilvl

Fresh alts are a nightmare though

[past jolt]

Preaching to the choir bro, most ppl hate the way sl pvp is in lots of ways. Including that 1

[warped warren]

how about you like, you know, actually queue into an arena? 🤔

unless youre turbo garbanzo, youre fine

even then its fine

[marble bone]

Not on the computer, was thinking about getting into arena again this weekend, but unsure if I want to bother with it, seeing everyone is full conq geared by now

[marble bone]

Ye got zero pvp done on this toon (fresh on new server, just HC geared)

[warped warren]

only way to know is by queueing

[past jolt]

Don’t encourage him to q

It’s a bad game rn wait for dragon flight if you’re new

That’s pretty much everyone’s perspective as PvP pop is insanely low rn

[warped warren]

game is fine

til you start facing 1 comp over and over again

but he wont get there

so its w.e

[marble bone]

Because asking about others peoples opinion is such a fucking bother, right? If its too much, just dont reply and keep doing you bud.

[warped warren]

XD

tldr, people are 311 gear at 500 mmr where you will be, its unplayable and not worth the time

gg

[marble bone]

You need someone to talk with?

Also you know jackshit about my pvp experience, just havent been active in SL because s1 was a dumpsterfuck, returned now in s4 to get a new toon on a new server geared and to get a bit back into it. Thought I’d ask in a pvp channel about how it’d be to retun to pvp with no gear and you decide to go all facebook commentsection on me with your unwanted answer.

[fickle forge]

You gotta Q to get a feel for it

If you're 290 ilvl, you're probably fine

[warped warren]

link checkpvp

[marble bone]

Its checkpvp.com/nonofyourbuisiness

[warped warren]

ok mr buisiness

[marble bone]

Wanna 1v1 me on rust next?

[raw summit]

Dude there is no way to determine if you like how pvp is

Other than trying it

💀

[warped warren]

na bro, you have to tell me if i like it or not

[raw summit]

Dude eto mud told me i hate pvp

So imma dip

Have a good one

[warped warren]

gg go next

[high sparrow]

If u didnt like s1 i doubt ull like it now

But just give it a go, 290 isnt that bad despite what everyone says

[raw summit]

290 is >0

[marble bone]

Cheers

[marble bone]

Didnt ask if I’d like it, did I? I asked how it is to get into it with literally zero pvp gear on a two week old toon that has only done pve and is around 290.

[raw summit]

It's gonna be shit to get into if you dont like pvp

[marble bone]

Pvp channels is.. special. You guys have a great weekend

[raw summit]

Regardless of your gear

[marble bone]

Never said I didnt like pvp, said I havent played since s1

[warped warren]

[past jolt]

ok he was being nice actually

wtf

ur being. ajackass bro

oh i scrolled up, still he answered your questions that really don't deserve one

[sinful dune]

Anyone knows why i cant update any of the addons in curseforge?

Deleted all addons along with curseforge+overwolf and reinstalled only curseforge with the addons

but any of the addon that requires update is greyed out

any idea why?

[brazen timber]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-it-have-you-tried-turning-it-off-and-on-again-telephone-on-call-gif-15495555

[sharp meteor]

Works on my machine.

[spice hornet]

been lookin for a healer for 2 hours now rip

[near delta]

Tooke me an hour to find a healer for my feral alt with no gear

We won like 8 games in a row off the rip so worked out

[spice hornet]

spriest dmg is actually so insane right

[past jolt]

Could be you got a pending update in a different game version like tbc or wrath

Or something

Update all ur different clients

Ptr beta etc

Happened to me

[past jolt]

Fury dmg is too and has 40% ms so

No place to complain I think

Unless you’re arms I guess

[spice hornet]

spriest has more control tho

i am arms

the spriest out dmg everyone in arena significantly even their fury zug partners

[past jolt]

They got the 45 sec cd stun 60 sec fear and 30 second silence, you got 12 sec interrupt, 90 second fear, 30 second stun but Have spammable physical snares

But play fury unless you have a competitive team or something where arms can reach its ceiling

[past jolt]

In my opinion, that should be the case lol, but it’s not if they get trained

Only way sp is out dickin a fury is free casting

Which is pretty frequent in aff sp or something

They get to free cast a lot in that comp for sure

Honestly I’m not sure, sp feels bad to target as cleave bc of the stupid cc chains u can get caught up in with the aids void volley. But aff also doesn’t feel great bc their dmg appears to be completely unaffected by being trained honestly

[lucid walrus]

12s interrupt? i wish

[copper hare]

I wish to have harmstring off gcd again soon. Shit is really pissing me off

specially when you play vs rdruids

[high sparrow]

imagine monks take our improved hamstring and their hamstring is auto refreshed too kekw

[shut barn]

for my Arms warrior brothers

stay strong

and tbag those outlaw rogues when u kill them

😂

[willow stratus]

hey guys as fury how much speed % should I have

[sharp meteor]

there are limited sources of speed

unless you mean haste

[willow stratus]

no speed

im asking how much do we need or should we have

i only have 3% and feel like people are out running me

also how do I get sockets on off pieces

[lucid walrus]

vault

raw speed isn’t that big of a deal but sitting shy of 120% with sockets is cool

[willow stratus]

the vault conquest pieces have gem sockets?

[lucid walrus]

no, the little weekly tokens at the bottom can be redeemed

[willow stratus]

aahhhh

[lucid walrus]

3 of them for 1 socket item

so 2 per week if you got 3 slots in vault

[lucid walrus]

anyone tried hammer of genesis on mikanikos into demo?

[sharp meteor]

thought it gave stack per imp

similar thing with carver's eye

nose for trouble also works per pet

[past jolt]

Not as good as simply taking the potency conduit

[sharp meteor]

auto stun vs the npc army of demo and unh is also dece

[past jolt]

I think only reason you’d take that is for the victory rush conduit as arms on top of IP and stalwart

[past jolt]

Auto stun is the finesse

And yes, you usually take that

As arms at least

[lucid walrus]

ah

wasn't quite sure if it worked

[sharp meteor]

idk might be decent tho

[past jolt]

If you want offense take another potency conduit

Only take hammer if you want a third defense conduit

[simple rock]

https://clips.twitch.tv/FineSilkyMinkDuDudu-gAJXJtf8sZNPbAeU

[lethal sandal]

is there any way i can beat a lock 1v1 with a fury? giving he has the same gearscore?

i feel like once i got through his absorb shield i am almost dead and he hasnt even used his other mobility etc

[lean burrow]

If both players are equal you will always lose

Warrior never wins duels

[frank knoll]

https://youtu.be/JK0VzGQcEQI bruh

Mage moment

[warped warren]

🎉

[frank knoll]

Xar says it’s still not good enough

[shut barn]

Always wondered how hunter players look like

[copper hare]

Yeah I hope deep freeze comes back and they I want to get ice lanced for 80k

And it shouldn't share DR with kidney, so rmp is finally viable again

[sage raptor]

What happens if you put two classes that can't duel against each other?

Warr/dk?

One squish against magic

One squish against physical

[wheat crane]

Take impending win 1v1s

[lean burrow]

Dk wins

[elder wigeon]

if deep freeze comes back honest to god it should be 10-15 yard range

15 probably fair

[lean burrow]

"mmm, yes, 30 yard it is" - blizzard intern

[elder wigeon]

deep freeze doesn't have travel time, stormbolt does and it's 20 yards

[warped warren]

deep freeze is a mage spell so it should not apply to that logic

gg

[lean burrow]

blizzard: "New fire mage talent - Deep Fry: stuns the target for 5 sec. Only usable on Ignited targets. Does not share diminishing returns with other stun effects."

[warped warren]

deep fried chicken

[raw summit]

🥂🦖

[spice hornet]

I really dislike this guy

[sinful dune]

I told u few days ago

You all copy pasted me. Every mage agrees that snowstorm sucks

Just step out 1 millisecond and the stack for stun resets

I called it even before xaryu made video why it sucked

[warped warren]

A mage main here. Mage still sucks. Even with the new changes frost will get kicked on frost and will be useless and only fire will be decent at best.
No one would let frostmage freecast the aoestun because its casted ability and anyone smart would just step out of the circle for a second and stack resets to 0

[spice hornet]

i like how starsurge hits 40ks now and they can spam like 9 of them insta

running starburst into you hitting 26k non crits at the same time kekw

[copper hare]

idk, boomy right now def isn't a problem

specially outside of their cds they do zero dmg

clone and rootbeam bots

[spice hornet]

not a problem just pump a lot

outside of cds they pad dmg and run stars int oyou which do a lot of dmg actually

[fickle forge]

A mage main here. Mage still sucks. Even with the new changes frost will get kicked on frost and will be useless and only fire will be decent at best.
No one would let frostmage freecast the aoestun because its casted ability and anyone smart would just step out of the circle for a second and stack resets to 0

[wheat jay]

A mage main here. Mage still sucks. Even with the new changes frost will get kicked on frost and will be useless and only fire will be decent at best.
No one would let frostmage freecast the aoestun because its casted ability and anyone smart would just step out of the circle for a second and stack resets to 0

[lucid walrus]

mages gotta work for that skillcap they claim they have

[spice hornet]

jesus afflic dam, we won this game and had really gooduptime on all of them too.

[raw summit]

Lol

[sharp meteor]

aff is wild it's like queue into maldiva and he ends the game at 18k dps as we kill his partner

whole match healer is like "brothers we are fucking dead"

[spice hornet]

i fought him playinfgg double aff with bigvuq and we killed bigvuq in opener but then we died another from double affy pump even LoS we just died

made me really sad

[fickle forge]

Wait if you guys had uptime, then how come 5k deeps?

Also affliction rot is just nuts

[wheat jay]

Send screen from reflex

Dmg done to players only

[spice hornet]

yup, we very rarely were being kited efficiently. it was dal sewers so theyu didnt have too much area to run

@wheat jay

[wheat jay]

Man you need to work on your dmg rotation

Cuz this is sad

[fickle forge]

I mean

Looks like fine damage to me tbh

Could prob be a bit higher if you have high uptime, but this isn't bad

Affli just makes everything look thrash relatively

[spice hornet]

troll? its about doing the right dmg at the right time. can do infinite dam like the lock did but nothing died

[copper hare]

yeah dmg is pretty irrelevant in short games, specially if warlocks wont stop running lol

[spice hornet]

is it even possible to do the furry rotation wrong

[copper hare]

yes you can press hearthstone instead of raging blow

xd

[spice hornet]

i think somehow, that would result in more satisfaction from the game

🙂

[thick reef]

true lol

def would lmao

[sage raptor]

My favorite thing about fury is how it lives in arms mains heads

[spice hornet]

hhahah

makes me sad zoning into outlaw/rdruid and knowing no matter what happens i cant win unless they DC or somethign

dont know how lord magnus was able to tolerate the climb through the outlaws

[sage raptor]

He got good

[scarlet barn]

Just ask him

:))

[spice hornet]

think he qs with dino so I think they can beat the fotm outlaws with ease

[fickle forge]

Don't agree with this tbh, more damage is always better

No downside unless you throw CDs into nothing or walls

[copper hare]

more damage is always better when you play dampening games, not when you play vs good affliction locks who will heal to full anyways again and are only killable in setups

[fickle forge]

We're warriors, every game is a dampening game and sustained dmg

Ofc it's different if you play something like thug or RMP

[simple rock]

warrs are dampeners yeah

but you definitely have win conditions with cc sometimes

depending on your comp

[past jolt]

ur more thinking about arms

in current game warrior meta is to win in opener

thats my opinion

[fickle forge]

What

[past jolt]

fury

ret

kills in opener

then tries again

in 2 minutes

[elder wigeon]

fury is for troglodytes

[fickle forge]

Pretty sure that's more tailored to ret than the warr

If anything, fury is way more sustained with arms having moment of burst

[past jolt]

no man.. just no...

fury is not about dampening at all, in fact, getting dampened is the worst thing that can happen to ret warr

[robust carbon]

Never have I seen a comment embedded with so much truth and disgust at the same time

[past jolt]

sounds like a alternative to mongoloid

heh

[elder wigeon]

almost all ret warrior games at the top of the ladder are dampeners

historically and even now

[robust carbon]

Truly elegant .

[past jolt]

well ill just agree to disagree then, we're on tottally opposite sides of how we perceive the meta. i can dm lag or someone and ask

and post here

[elder wigeon]

troglodyte isn't the same as mongoloid

troglodyte refers to cavemen essentially

[past jolt]

ah

[wheat jay]

Y'all arguing if warr is damp now?

[past jolt]

it's similar term

[radiant flint]

Is outlaw the only spec we don't really ant to q into for 2s?

[past jolt]

an idiot of sorts

[sharp meteor]

good hunter is annoying

rogue/mage also annoying depending on healer

[wheat jay]

Warr is pure damp

[past jolt]

fury sustain is not good for damp at all same with ret

[radiant flint]

All three specs of hunter or just like mm?

[wheat jay]

Sustain is the definition of damp class

You don't rly have any crazy setups, you just throw your cooldowns on enemy in hopes of killing them in 3s stun

Rinse repeat

Until you win

[past jolt]

i need u to talk to some healers my man

they got some stories for u

of the set ups

involving pressing wings reck and conq banner or spear

[wheat jay]

And if enemy survives, what do you do?

You repeat the same thing until damp is so high enemies cant heal your dmg

[wheat jay]

Having a burst window doesnt change the fact that the class in itself relies on damp against competent players

Wings reck and conq is not 100% kill

Unless enemies dont peel

[past jolt]

maybe we're misunderstanding each others definition of damp, but fwiw, probably 5% of arena matches these days go to damp

[sharp meteor]

doesn't happen much in 3s until mid-high or high mmr

although more frequently when it's like caster cleaves and they just pillar until somebody dies to something 10 mins in

it's pretty common in 2v2 though

[fickle forge]

Being a damp comp generally means you benefit the longer the game goes. Shadowplay has pretty good setup, but it's also considering a damp comp since the rot gets unbearable as you chew through CDs and have to keep up with the clock

[past jolt]

in this meta, there's 2 types of comps; ones that do a go, run and reset, do another go and then there's ones that mongo the whole game and stay on target

ret warr and turbo are definitely the ladder

[fickle forge]

Aka damp comps and/or classes

[lucid walrus]

nah. locks, hunters (in general) and rogues are pretty bad but outlaw's the most egregious of the 3 specs

[past jolt]

no

they don't run

they stay on teh target

until it dies

[fickle forge]

Which is what a damp comp wants to do

Would you consider turbo cleave a damp comp then?

[past jolt]

are u sure ur not thinking of rot? or something? damp comps stall

u dont stall as ret warr

[wheat jay]

Damp comp doesn't need to stall

Damp Comp gets stronger and stronger the higher the damp gets

[past jolt]

theres no damp in sl i can assure u

except 2's

[wheat jay]

Comps that do constant pressure are quite often damp comps

[wheat jay]

Bruh

[lucid walrus]

s1 got pretty bad about it towards the end iirc

[lucid walrus]

that from this season?

[sharp meteor]

No, that was Unchained.

[lucid walrus]

makes sense

mmr looked cracked for it to be s4

[sharp meteor]

I had a few 9-10 minute ones in Cosmic.

[past jolt]

ok so that was 2 seasons ago

posting 1 game

great info bro

watch anyone streaming the game

[lucid walrus]

"in SL"

[past jolt]

the games areall very short

[lucid walrus]

that was your framework

[past jolt]

pendantic lol

[wheat jay]

Does awc count?

[lucid walrus]

your words not mine

[wheat jay]

Cuz games there were quite long

[past jolt]

it's always good when logic fails

and we go to splitting hairs

[simple rock]

most people streaming are playing low mmr games for content. and to simply get fast queues

[lucid walrus]

claiming there's been no damp in SL is delusional

[simple rock]

actual high rated 3s go to damp a lot

[sharp meteor]

I'm comfortable in the knowledge that there weren't dampener matches in Shadowlands 3v3 arena combat.

[sharp meteor]

The higher you go and the longer the season is the longer matches often play

[past jolt]

nopewatch all the top ladder ones that stream

[wheat jay]

True damp starts at 90%

[graceful quarry]

there is no damp in sl, just like there is no war in ba sing se

[sharp meteor]

Missing BFA 2v2 where I'd kill locks at 100% damp

[wheat jay]

Propaganda, you'd die to lock at 98%

[simple rock]

but also a lot of mid rated healers don't know how to get drinks or teams don't know how to play for drinks

[sharp meteor]

Line the immolates/conflags 🧠

[simple rock]

so ppl oom real easy with the dmg nowadays

[sharp meteor]

Also don't have to drag games out, especially early season

[wheat jay]

And then there's Drainer

[sharp meteor]

Just play to win and if you die then go next nobody wants to play 10 minute matches

[wheat jay]

"im oom need a drink" at 95% mana

[simple rock]

LOL yeah

chad

[sharp meteor]

I mean sips early are great for long games yeah

[graceful quarry]

small sip

[sharp meteor]

it's not like there's much else for some healers to do

[wheat jay]

Drainer never sips

[simple rock]

if you die it's not my problem

[wheat jay]

He chugs a whole bottle

[sharp meteor]

glug glug

[graceful quarry]

yeah, they are

[wheat jay]

yeah

[past jolt]

well im pretty sure most ppl will be playing wrath where there is no damp hehe

[copper hare]

prepare for war/hpal mirrors if you havent played wrath back then

shit is boring af

And tbh, game is really damp specially when you watch r1 players, SL was really fast pace at lower ratings for sure, but the higher you go, the longer the games were usually

[past jolt]

i likely will play a priest but maybe warrior

feel like its too crowded of a space haha

[sand spindle]

can someone link a good pvp prepatch spec? i missed out this week because of work 😦

[raw summit]

youll find wrath gamers in the "Fight Club" discord - the classic version of this place

invite is pined in #mop-discussion

[past jolt]

that's tbc gamers

they're about to be antiquated

[raw summit]

they have wrath shit

[frigid maple]

new to pvp raided up to heroic

fury warrior goes vers haste correct?

but do i bother running jaithys/gavel or verse haste weapons would be better

realise pin answers gavel but not jaithys

[elder wigeon]

assuming same item level jaithys is better than pvp weapon

[glass orchid]

Is there any way to quickly pick out the correct warlock and hunter pets

Trying to find the right one to focus amid 10000 nameplates is annoying

[indigo barn]

Custom nameplate add-ons would be your best bet

Removing wild imp clutter is a fodsend

[simple rock]

@glass orchid
/tar [@arenapet1]
/tar [@arenapet2]
/tar [@arenapet3]

it will always target the real pet

that's the lazy macro, doesn't work as well anymore because there are a lot of dk/demo teams

so to be optimal you would ideally make 3 binds for targeting pets

[frigid maple]

ah thanks

em actually whats the lvl 12 upgrade on eternal gladiator's hacker the purple axe
both its max normal ilvl and in pvp combat ilvl

[lucid walrus]

level 12?

[frigid maple]

yep

oh sorry upgrade 9

[lucid walrus]

only matters up to 8, 298/311

also you don’t want that axe

1hs are dookie for fury

[frigid maple]

ah yea sorry just asking for example

[lucid walrus]

ya just fair warning

[frigid maple]

so i assume a max upgrade would be better than a 298 jaitys?

or its a sim question

[lucid walrus]

can’t really sim pvp

couldn’t really tell you how strong heroic jaithys is ngl

[frigid maple]

ah dank no worries thanks
just wondering if i should farm points into the weapons or trinket ilvl right now since i have gavel and jaithys

[indigo barn]

Jaithys has no PvP reduction on the proc I think

And I have seen it hit for 15k

[frigid maple]

so its pretty op?

[indigo barn]

Idk

Nobody seems to use it

I don't have one

It has its full proc chance when in the OH

[frigid maple]

mm cool thanks

[spice hornet]

how to survive into wps as furry

err rps*

just feel perma dead into that comp

[indigo barn]

Rogue priest shaman?

[sharp meteor]

it's like psyfiend and hemotoxin while you take 20k dps to the skull and just die

[indigo barn]

Ah

Idk, a good shadow always feels like a mountain too climb

[frigid maple]

how does one start rated pvp as a complete new retard
im average 296 ilvl but swapped out 2 trinks with base epic, getting arse thorn by druids and nothing else

[indigo barn]

It's a weirdly steep curve at the start

For very new players to pvp, skillcappeds free YouTube videos can help you early on

This season is cooked though so don't get to beat up over the struggle of getting 1800 for the first time

If you are really struggling to find out what's wrong, post some games in the PvP-gamplay-review channel

[frigid maple]

dont really know how to record games LUL

[indigo barn]

There are a few people who will point out what you're doing right and wrong throughout each moment

https://youtu.be/RVMEBONCx-E

[wild cliff]

What spec is the best to play atm

[spice hornet]

rogue

[sharp meteor]

hmm probably fury but arms seems decent again

[frigid maple]

agaisnt mage and rogue

no point bringing anti heal right a

[spice hornet]

in 2s no lol

[frigid maple]

does anti heal matter to a rogue too?

[simple rock]

can we all start saying anti heal

instead of ms

I like it

[frigid maple]

think its just a broader term as i dont even know ms was the lingo

[sharp meteor]

ms is just its original form

nowadays it's grievous wounds

and almost everything has it

[frigid maple]

ah cool

btw in 2v2 im getting absolutly obliterated by feral and mm what talents do i run for them

[spice hornet]

bloodrage, disarm, warbringer and just sit on mms face and zug him

[frigid maple]

they dont heal at all?

im not due to feral and mm both targeting either me or my partner the we usually pop before killing mm especially due to mm turtling

[warped warren]

[frigid maple]

sorry horribad english

[sharp meteor]

feral offheals a lot

and heals a lot via regen

[frigid maple]

due to feral and mm both deciding to tunnel either me or my partner, one of us usually dies way before being able to kill the mm due to him either having turtle or so much damage being dished out

so should i still keep anti heal or just bloodrage disarm warbringer

[sharp meteor]

idk what warbringer does there

so it'd probs be bloodrage/slaughter/disarm

[frigid maple]

can i em

[sharp meteor]

what is this exactly, like feral and mm together

[frigid maple]

disarm feral

[sharp meteor]

i can't say i see that very often

nah, paws

🐱

[frigid maple]

the 5 times i seen them they fucking tore me a new ass

but sire arms

dis arms

chop off feral's paws/arms/hands

[nimble jasper]

seen a few people play jaithys at mythic ilvl but its rare

[frigid maple]

also is it recommend to just shattering throw the moment i see paladin use bubble?

[nimble jasper]

mostly cuz very few people have it that play at a high level

ik trill played veinripper offhand in s2 on monk

raz on eu plays outlaw with double veinripper

[frigid maple]

but would 298 jaithys be better than 311

actually on that note i feel like 4 jaithys might be better due to the sudden burst of damage?

[nimble jasper]

yeah

[frigid maple]

or the significant lowered proc chance might make it less optimal

[nimble jasper]

311 jaithys

[frigid maple]

sorry mb i mean 298 jaithys vs 311 pvp haste vers weapon

[nimble jasper]

dont think 298 is worth

pvp wep is only vers mast or vers crit

[frigid maple]

ah oke

[sharp meteor]

i just pretend that pve gear isnt' real and don't think about it yep

simplifies things a bit

[nimble jasper]

none of it has stood out in SL

[frigid maple]

but gaveb

hit soul 1 victory rush

sudden heal

[nimble jasper]

i mean whaazz was using gavel on his tr warr

said it was disgust

[sharp meteor]

it can add an immense amount of dmg to a go and the stat loss is eh

but most people don't have access to mystic one

[warped warren]

you have really good pressure for a min, with a pretty high chance of winning a game after 4 mins gg

[marble bone]

will be easier to obtain a mythic one this season due to the upgrade token thingy, sure 20 boss kills might take some time for someone only doing 3 mythic bosses, but its doable

[sharp meteor]

isn't the season potentially ending in like 6 weeks lmao

[marble bone]

oh fair enough lol

so if they kill like 3-4 bosses each week, they can test m gavel the last week 💪

[spice hornet]

Isn’t the rumor an end of November release? Gotta a little longer than that hehe

[dark sparrow]

Prepatch though

[spice hornet]

Ahh true

[thick reef]

why are some of the top warriors starting to gem some mastery as necro fury, getting 30%+?

[raw summit]

Because mastery increases your damage during enrage

[lean burrow]

I liked the expac where warrior said "it's warrin' time" and warred all over rogue mages

[copper hare]

when was that, wrath s8 and mop first season or? xd

[lean burrow]

never

[warped warren]

[sage raptor]

Just play unholy

It's like warrior

Except magic

They both use sword

And plate

Basically the same thing

[copper hare]

I haven't looked into it, but are grappy hands gone in DF?

[sage raptor]

No

[raw summit]

but the lego and conduit are

so they dont do retard dam

hopefully

[copper hare]

at least something

[sage raptor]

It'll probably be used still

It's a good utility

[lean burrow]

how can you live

without mortal strike's sound

[copper hare]

I didn't had any problems playing into dk as war obviously, but with caster alts.. holy fuck they that shit is annoying

[sage raptor]

Simply deathstrike more

[raw summit]

get addon to replace fester's sound with it

[sage raptor]

Get good

Oh

I see question

What Phil said

[lean burrow]

fester strike has slam's shit animation

[sage raptor]

Then don't play orc

Ez

[lean burrow]

on human too

[sage raptor]

You probably won't be pressing festering strike in DF if I'm being honest

Maybe a little

But wound generation is high

[raw summit]

i hate that rng wound talent

[sage raptor]

Yeah

The DnD one

?

Pestilence I think is called

[lean burrow]

what happens to combo fester - fester - apocalypse?

in DF

[raw summit]

one fester ig since it can rando make 6 wounds iirc

havent looked into tree in a while tho

[lean burrow]

[sage raptor]

Yeah. And you'll never have 0 wounds on a target so it's just fester - apoc

But gargoyle is back so that makes up for the lost gcd

[lean burrow]

time to unbind fester strike

[sage raptor]

In the beta, the apoc cd reducing talent makes necro bargain have no cooldown

Infinite maguses

Or magi

[copper hare]

I don't know if I like spear on a 1.30 min cd

stupid change

[sage raptor]

Yall see the new pvp trinket bonuses?

For df

[raw summit]

no

[sage raptor]

Damage reduction while stunned I believe

[copper hare]

wasnt the absorb while stunned the tier set bonus from open world pvp rewards?

could be wrong

[sage raptor]

I have no clue

I just go as prot in wpvp and be a raid boss

Just zug

Oh I thought you meant now

[lean burrow]

avatar lineup

still 8 sec tether

[copper hare]

sub 50 sec now vs melee cleaves :(

[lean burrow]

anger management will reduce cds anyway, and spear will get desynced again

[copper hare]

yeah, should be 16 sec tether haha

[lean burrow]

no point in making it 90 sec cd

[desert falcon]

Yo, does anyone have working Gladiatorlossa2 without any problems in 3v3. If there such people can you tell what addon version you have or share addon.

After some update I have mine chewing words and freezing only in 3s

[thick reef]

What stats thresholds are people playing at atm? I have 38% versa, 28% haste and 26% mastery as necro fury playing signet - should I go for a bit less versa and amp up some mastery?

not sure where DR comes into play for versa

[spice hornet]

That’s the same as my stats

I have like 31% haste tho playing insignia

[elder wigeon]

First dr for any stat is 30% then 39%

[sharp meteor]

and first dr is only 10% and only on the gains after the threshold so basically nothing

some stats become weaker after a certain point without even taking into account the dr gains

and that's more of a thing to take into consideration than 10% loss on 4% of stats

[undone pumice]

Tpot dragonflight when

[nimble jasper]

beta stinky so far

[wheat jay]

Hmmm

Why

[nimble jasper]

boring

locks have too much

etc

[nimble jasper]

also i ambush on lock on wotlk

and it takes out 50% of his hp

how it should be

[elder wigeon]

locks have too much?

us having double charge and bounding stride baseline isn't too much either?

[nimble jasper]

everyone in general does

but you know lock is gonna get some dumb bs before game goes live

[elder wigeon]

everyone had "too much" in the good expacs

i like it when there's a fair bit of homogenization

[nimble jasper]

not wrong but mop lock went beyond that

if you recall

[elder wigeon]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I'd rather the game be less balanced but more fun

this expac is unbalanced and unfun lmao

[nimble jasper]

yeah

[elder wigeon]

you care less about balance when you're have a good time

[nimble jasper]

idk why everyone in mop complained about burst of speed

[elder wigeon]

idk man

[nimble jasper]

mop also the last expac

you actually had to get off monk

during his karma

[elder wigeon]

i mean that was the first expac of monk

[wheat jay]

I meaaaaan

Four charges on survi

[sharp meteor]

mop was the skill clickers complaining of being overwhelmed so they pruned the shit out of everything in wod

dark times

[nimble jasper]

druid having like

6 pages

[sharp meteor]

they need to rework feral to be easy to play

[nimble jasper]

it kind of was?

in wod at least

instant cast clone

pogga

[sharp meteor]

they borked up the spec by trying to make it some high iq bleed snapshot spec

[nimble jasper]

idk

feral players are mentally ill

[sharp meteor]

ya because normal people don't wanna play that spec

and the people who do wanna be a cute kitty can't play it

[nimble jasper]

also the ones with an inferiority complex

when asked why dont you just play rogue

[wheat jay]

Nah feral is nice

Problem is it has too many degenerate playstyles

Convoke oneshot vs bleed burst oneshot

[simple rock]

being the most mobile melee class seems fun. but you need to commit to be good at it

some specs you can learn real fast

[wheat jay]

I know one feral main

Man's cool

[nimble jasper]

i’ve seen a few

but for every one cool feral theres like

3 mentally ill manchildren

i know one raiding one who was stuck in boomy jail for years

cuz “our boomies fucking suck”

and he played it once out of boredom

[simple rock]

who's more toxic

sub rogue players or feral players

[nimble jasper]

idk

i’ve gotten more very nice dms

from 2s hero rdruids

than rogues

i bagged this rdruid when i killed him in opener

and he went off on me

[nimble jasper]

from my experience the most annoying players are mage/lock mains

usually worse if they play both

[copper hare]

honestly feral mains usually stay feral mains no matter how broken or viable they are, there is barely feral rerollers

so I would say for sure rogues, they are toxic and should get banned from this game

[proven maple]

people who bag after killing people in openers in SL are the worst players

[nimble jasper]

I mean….

i only bagged him cuz how hard he was greeding

and playing 40 yd pve heal

cringe

[lucid walrus]

can’t decide if the aggro ones or the pve healer types are easier to dislike

[nimble jasper]

i respect dinoe cuz hes so slippery

can play aggro without being in danger of dying

Although I heard playing into kubzy rdruid in 2s makes you want to quit.

[sharp meteor]

kubzy seems really consistently good at whatever he queues

[nimble jasper]

hes gotten near r1 range

on anything he plays in a week or two i swear

[proven maple]

Warriors a that queue with him are carried?

[nimble jasper]

I mean mag is kind of a gigachad

[proven maple]

He just dumpsters people at 2.6k in 2s as arms. Agreed

[indigo barn]

Arms can hit an outlaw

[nimble jasper]

sometimes i do wish NA high end 2s

was as sweaty as it is on EU

[wild cliff]

what order do we purchase conq gear?

[elder wigeon]

weapon > helmet chest legs > shoulders boots gaunts waist > cloak wrist > rings > trinkets

[wild cliff]

and where do our leggos go?

[elder wigeon]

if you're fury, unity makes sense on ring as well as signet, as arms, unity can go where you want it, i personally did wrist for maximum versatility and waist for enduring blow

[wild cliff]

yeah im fury atm, i see people do signt on ring and unity on neck

[past jolt]

u can do double leggo ring, wrist/ring, ring/neck

@wheat jay watch these https://www.twitch.tv/rudarz

whose the dampening comp LOL

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1583076820?t=03h08m02s

[wheat jay]

Are you sending me balance dh to somehow prove turbo is not damp?

Bruh

[past jolt]

ret warr

caue dh boomy is an actual dampening comp by ur definition

[wheat jay]

So is ret warr by my definition

[past jolt]

watch the games tho

by the top ret war player

the resto druid is instant wild growth talent and oomijng in 60 seconds

[spice hornet]

Boomy dh hurts me

[wheat jay]

Ok but that doesnt change they fact that ret/warr is a damp comp

It doesnt do anything that would make it not damp

Ret/warr greatly benefits from dampening

And every comp can oom rdruid in 60 seconds if the rdruid or any member of their team sucks ass

Ret/warr mission is too keep doing damage until dampening is so high that your damage is unhealable

That's the main win condition

Doing damage and applying pressure until enemy healer can't heal enough to keep his teammates alive

[past jolt]

that's every comps win condiito

their kill set ups are hoj on ktarget stormbolt healer at same time and pop all ur cds

they have one of the most devastating set of burst cds in game

[past jolt]

Artji are warriors damp in wrath

What isn’t damp

In retail

[sharp meteor]

how is damp real if our eyes aren't real

[wheat jay]

Havent played wrath, never bothered to check the meta it had

[fickle forge]

how is damp real if our eyes aren't real

[sacred hornet]

Hello ! What is the best spec/covenant for a Warrior in 3v3 with a Unholy DK? My warrior currently play Fury/Kyrian

[warped warren]

there is no dampening in wrath

[wheat jay]

Lmao

[scarlet barn]

shush Jaden

[lean burrow]

so two rogues in wrath can just not play the game?

[warped warren]

?

wdym

[wheat jay]

Arena eyes exist

[sage raptor]

Yall still going going on with that retarded ass argument? Lol

[frank knoll]

Scariest caster besides afflock?
I’d say toss up between ele, fire and demo

[spice hornet]

Spriest

[spice hornet]

destroys you with instantaneous dmg and a pet like while solo CCing your heals

[frank knoll]

I never see Spriests tho

[wheat jay]

Yes now pick a side

[sage raptor]

Hmmm

Okay

[sage raptor]

Your side is better

[spice hornet]

been seeing a lot of them this season, lots of RPS

[wheat jay]

Amen brother

[elfin surge]

little peasants

[full quiver]

@elfin surge stop complaining about rets

[elfin surge]

real

[spice hornet]

potspoon lol hes so fried

plays like 10k+ games a season

[frank knoll]

Why does everyone say Frost DK is bad
Is spamming 20k-30k oblit crits bad?

[spice hornet]

It can definitely pump

But I think it dies easier than unholy and does really bad dmg outside of cds

[near delta]

You disarm or otherwise cc them on that and they do nothing

[frank knoll]

I’ll still mess with it, I got blown up by this on on my shaman in a BG. Guy had like 120k hp so probably in full duelist

[raw summit]

120k could also be earth ele condie

[spice hornet]

And unholy has more comp options

Have only seen frost in TSG and wwdk

[amber mortar]

Hey guys, is fury or better for arenas rn? I will try warrior for the first time and strictly pvp on it. Got 2.4k exp as a DK and played only one class for a long time

[spice hornet]

Both are good

Fury is easier and probably slightly better rn

I’d say play arms because we don’t know the future of fury, right now it has a really good tier set which may be propping it up

[sacred hornet]

Kyrian or Necro with an Unholy DK? 🙂

[spice hornet]

Up to you

I’ve seen both

I like necro cause I was tired of spear getting cucked or bugging out, also feels good to be unsnareable

[unkempt arch]

yo guys, noob fury here, how is siegebreaker leggo doing compared to signet ?

[spice hornet]

most people like signet because they dont like the rng of siegebreaker

and the root break/cc immunity from proccing a BS feels really good

dont rlly know any furys running siegebreaker anymore really

[thick reef]

yea like demo/dk

demo Udk that is

lol

[fickle forge]

Wasn't PHDK hot for a short while?

[spice hornet]

Yup

Still a good comp

Destroys the mages

[full quiver]

demo dk sucks

[steep inlet]

no

[full quiver]

f tier comp smh

[steep inlet]

lol

[elder wigeon]

something wrong with you if you don't bitch about ret damage

with that being said fury shouldn't exist

[sage raptor]

Coming from an f tier dk

🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

[full quiver]

Got him

Lmao

[spice hornet]

Was fighting a Cupid over and over and the ret was #1 on the meters significantly despite being trained, peeled, running from us lol

[near delta]

When you kite/cc the rets entire go and he globals you in the last 2 seconds of wings

[fickle forge]

• A fury player

[full quiver]

was it survival hunter

[spice hornet]

Nah it was BM

Just unreal dam

[elder wigeon]

I play arms

[thick reef]

ya

a few of us

play arms

here

like you kargish you are a chad

[thick reef]

@fickle forge ^^ its true

[wheat jay]

Sounds like propaganda to me

[thick reef]

LOL TRUE

i mean you are one as well arjti

anyone who associates with kargish is a chad

[fickle forge]

[full quiver]

🐀🐀🐀

[wheat jay]

[thick reef]

!

iv actully seen ur clips tho

those could be epic twitch clips on wow highlight's

[wheat jay]

[thick reef]

[full quiver]

@fickle forge u played that like perfect karg

[thick reef]

@full quiver

[full quiver]

wot

[thick reef]

karg is perfect did u know that?

never messes up in arena

[full quiver]

Im a fucking nasty hard bastard in real life. I don't just talk online either... I've got facebook/ instagram videos of me sparring in my living room etc - I can show you some proper fucking hits, if anyone wants to have a go with me irl we can arrange it?
You can laugh all you want boys but tbh... I know what im capable of irl and I know my limits and my temper. I know that I fucking love a fight and I am nasty... so if anyone wants to arrange a fight irl - Get on discord video call now and say something to me. I know I'm a fucking hard cunt irl, if anyones got somethinf to fucking say, get on skype video call now and say it to me? @elfin surge

[thick reef]

Im a fucking nasty hard bastard in real life. I don't just talk online either... I've got facebook/ instagram videos of me sparring in my living room etc - I can show you some proper fucking hits, if anyone wants to have a go with me irl we can arrange it?
You can laugh all you want boys but tbh... I know what im capable of irl and I know my limits and my temper. I know that I fucking love a fight and I am nasty... so if anyone wants to arrange a fight irl - Get on discord video call now and say something to me. I know I'm a fucking hard cunt irl, if anyones got somethinf to fucking say, get on skype video call now and say it to me? @elfin surge

[fickle forge]

Im a fucking nasty hard bastard in real life. I don't just talk online either... I've got facebook/ instagram videos of me sparring in my living room etc - I can show you some proper fucking hits, if anyone wants to have a go with me irl we can arrange it?
You can laugh all you want boys but tbh... I know what im capable of irl and I know my limits and my temper. I know that I fucking love a fight and I am nasty... so if anyone wants to arrange a fight irl - Get on discord video call now and say something to me. I know I'm a fucking hard cunt irl, if anyones got somethinf to fucking say, get on skype video call now and say it to me? @elfin surge

[wheat jay]

Im a fucking nasty hard bastard in real life. I don't just talk online either... I've got facebook/ instagram videos of me sparring in my living room etc - I can show you some proper fucking hits, if anyone wants to have a go with me irl we can arrange it?
You can laugh all you want boys but tbh... I know what im capable of irl and I know my limits and my temper. I know that I fucking love a fight and I am nasty... so if anyone wants to arrange a fight irl - Get on discord video call now and say something to me. I know I'm a fucking hard cunt irl, if anyones got somethinf to fucking say, get on skype video call now and say it to me? @elfin surge

[raw summit]

Im a fucking nasty hard bastard in real life. I don't just talk online either... I've got facebook/ instagram videos of me sparring in my living room etc - I can show you some proper fucking hits, if anyone wants to have a go with me irl we can arrange it?
You can laugh all you want boys but tbh... I know what im capable of irl and I know my limits and my temper. I know that I fucking love a fight and I am nasty... so if anyone wants to arrange a fight irl - Get on discord video call now and say something to me. I know I'm a fucking hard cunt irl, if anyones got somethinf to fucking say, get on skype video call now and say it to me? @elfin surge

[thick reef]

yes

artwork it is indeed

[full quiver]

Got em

[sage raptor]

Im a fucking nasty hard bastard in real life. I don't just talk online either... I've got facebook/ instagram videos of me sparring in my living room etc - I can show you some proper fucking hits, if anyone wants to have a go with me irl we can arrange it?
You can laugh all you want boys but tbh... I know what im capable of irl and I know my limits and my temper. I know that I fucking love a fight and I am nasty... so if anyone wants to arrange a fight irl - Get on discord video call now and say something to me. I know I'm a fucking hard cunt irl, if anyones got somethinf to fucking say, get on skype video call now and say it to me? @elfin surge

[fickle forge]

I have a lot of friends. they all play warrior if none of them play warrior i don't allow them to be my friend. friends who play warrior are chads, big bros and homies that are always there for me. they have a true talent and passion. They deserve the best out of anyone on this planet including other planets as well. Warrior friends rule and always will being the strongest, toughest and greatest out of anyone. Don't believe me? well you must not be my friend.

[near delta]

[high veldt]

🕵️

[thick reef]

I have a lot of friends. they all play warrior if none of them play warrior i don't allow them to be my friend. friends who play warrior are chads, big bros and homies that are always there for me. they have a true talent and passion. They deserve the best out of anyone on this planet including other planets as well. Warrior friends rule and always will being the strongest, toughest and greatest out of anyone. Don't believe me? well you must not be my friend.

[fickle forge]

[tranquil peak]

I'm having a lot of trouble on my fury warrior into all specs of hunter, but when I play my hunter I get shit on by warrior. What am I most likely missing when I'm playing warrior?

fwiw when I play hunter I play with a priest, when I play warrior into hunter I'm mostly seeing them with druids or paladins which feels like a much better pairing for them into warrior matchups

Druid Hunter feels like a really unwinnable matchup due to inability to stick on either target, my healer is a rsham

[spice hornet]

rdruid/hunter is rlly hard to win as warr, rdruid runs that root talent that makes them not break on dmg pretty much, and will spam root, then spam clone you, then spam stun you all game and by the time the clones/stuns are done you're off root DR and it's back to the root spam kekw.

your only chance is running max mobility talents and praying rdruid is bad and killing him in 1 - 3 go's (he'll trinket 1 go, tranq immune 1 go, then 3rd is ur chance).

fury has a better chance due to bloodrage

[past jolt]

Turns out hunters don’t like pedophiles either

[tranquil peak]

???

[tranquil peak]

so into rdruid basically have to sit druid, but if they're guard affinity they're pretty unkillable

[wheat crane]

Luckily you dont run into many actual good rdruids

[spice hornet]

only rlly have a chance as kyrian

[wheat crane]

It's like finding a wild unicorn that actually knows their kit

[spice hornet]

otherwise they just tight pillar you spamming shift

[wheat crane]

Most you can just shit on with frequent swaps

[wheat crane]

Dont sit anything in 2s, keep uptime youre useless just waddling around

[lucid walrus]

your name’s diddler bro lmao

idk what you expected

[spice hornet]

[past jolt]

Your name is diddler. That’s a term synonymous with pedophilia

[tranquil peak]

Assuming you’re out of gap close would you just duck LOS?

[past jolt]

Dw he’s been forced to name change on other servers, hopefully a <@&257983573498265600> can take care of it

[wheat crane]

No, hit something else

Kill hunter swap druid both dip kill his pet

[tranquil peak]

Not quite the full story, you chose to cry about it out of nowhere and whined about it until the mods obliged to make you shush

[wheat crane]

Drag them los

[tranquil peak]

You’re literally the only person who has ever made a remark about my name

[past jolt]

Nope, no crying. The mod immediately changed it

[tranquil peak]

Try not to be so triggered my friend, you will live a much happier life

[past jolt]

Nobody thinks it’s funny or cute to be called diddler bro, you need to go to council

[brazen timber]

yeah your name is cringe af

[tranquil peak]

I’m not really seeking your attention or approval so I don’t really care what you think about it

If it bothers you that much, just ignore me

[spice hornet]

When the wowhead news hits and it’s yet another m+ tuning while pvp goes untouched

[wheat crane]

Come play wrath till df

Just let SL die

[spice hornet]

I can’t even beat the login screen boss

[wheat crane]

Lmfao true

[spice hornet]

Just a casual 15k queue for grobb

[wheat crane]

Deadass i tried to log in yesterday at like 1 pm

[spice hornet]

Least i can play slands even if it’s dog shit

[wheat crane]

Was like a 14k q

[spice hornet]

It had a 3k queue at 12:30pm PSTp

I work from home

[wheat crane]

I completely forgot about it, took my wife n kids to the pool, went out to dinner

Came back 6.5 hours later and my computer was still on

Had to laugh

But i actually got in like ten minutes later

Yea im on benediction its retarded

Think i might just bite the bullet and take the xfer after buying some cheap glyphs on the ah

[spice hornet]

Then the hype dies on those other servers and now you struggle to find some arena partners

Just a bad situation with wrath rn

[sharp meteor]

Classic is weird it goes from dead to massively overpopulated.

[wheat crane]

Its so fucking stupid

My idiot friends went to benediction

[spice hornet]

Ya it’s just like classic launch all over again

[wheat crane]

So they made me xfer when i resubbed

[sharp meteor]

I thought classic was fine to level and see the zones again but everything else eh

[wheat crane]

Now they want to dip

[sharp meteor]

tbc was a tumor and i don't wanna taint my good memories of wotlk

[wheat crane]

I want to throw hands irl

[sharp meteor]

ya many such cases

[sage raptor]

Square up hoe

[wheat crane]

But the homies wanna 5s so w/e

[sharp meteor]

i remember originally being like hey login a few hours before hand or u get stuckin queue

so launch day they were all unable to get in

[wheat crane]

Thats the shit tho

2 months from now everything is gonna be dead again as soon as everyone remembers classic arena is shit

[sharp meteor]

ya lmao

[wheat crane]

LETS GO BACK TO BENE!

[sharp meteor]

it's like the htought of playing

is more fun than playing

[wheat crane]

Fuck u nerds catch me in df