arms

[daring heron]

if there is one out there then it's fake

[thick kelp]

I think they refer to your smolderon pov

from s3

as the guide

[slow saddle]

About smoldy timers

[daring heron]

oh

that one is not fake

[obsidian topaz]

damn that is huge

[burnt quiver]

for someone who mostly does m+ is call to chaos better or pips?

[slender sonnet]

im debating how my guild would take it if I spent a bullion on an upgrade for a trinket they could have given someone else 🤔

[safe blade]

the critcake guide was for fury though, i am a critcake enjoyer

[daring heron]

same timings for arms

[obsidian topaz]

21% uptime on ring shield

60% BSL uptime

[safe blade]

he hath spoken! Thanks

[slow saddle]

Ye sry, shouldda been more precise 😁

[obsidian topaz]

are you guys running vers flasks over crit flasks now to help with BSL uptime?

[noble anvil]

that's a good question

[daring heron]

nah same as before

if you feel safe and won't die with crit flask then use that

otherwise vers

crit flask should have very little impact on your bsl uptime

[halcyon breach]

Told you trust when I said just full send it like a week or so ago

Even if silly boots or whatever would've been more dps

[daring heron]

i can't remember what silly item i wanted

but shield was definitely the play

just get shield dont doubt

[boreal quartz]

fine ig

nvm socket on helm we coom

[opal folio]

Pog

[boreal quartz]

[opal folio]

[boreal quartz]

guess i send after raid cuz no shot im doing keys rn

[dire hinge]

How the heck

[boreal quartz]

not playing the game

[dire hinge]

Oh you’re not at cap yet

[boreal quartz]

[dire hinge]

Gotta love systems that consume at a different rate than they reward 😞

[boreal quartz]

i love mythic raid not capping me

fury is how i aquire this item

[noble anvil]

how is mythic hands a downgrade from heroic hands ??

[fringe moon]

your stats. redistribute

[glossy sky]

yo guys, this is my vault: not sure what to get :

currently have heroic brand

and algathar m+

this is 3 min sim https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nGBC1z58EzrKx5XjdUFWQB

[eternal vortex]

Prob oce

[glossy sky]

dont really see anyone on m ythic using grieftorch tho

but its tempting 😄 the palas that have it in raid blast with it

[sharp wyvern]

how many people die on those fights

[glossy sky]

usually there is 1-3 on the simpler not really, on more difficult some die ;p

[sharp wyvern]

its meme season so w/e but personally i wouldnt want a trinket that makes me hope someone in my raid dies

[glossy sky]

which attunement on the omnious?

emerald?

[slender sonnet]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1oEdwD2hFTaBVX1NTu17bk

[latent moss]

dont look cshb overheal

nvm thats not overall

[sharp wyvern]

try changing sockets to haste/vers

that brought the ring to the same level as my old one

[slender sonnet]

5k dps loss seems a lot by getting a higher ilvl ring and moving bsl :/

[sharp wyvern]

also that 70% uptime on silk only happens with the ring most likely

[slender sonnet]

rip haste ig

yeah

[sharp wyvern]

your current ring gets weighted higher cause it also has the silk thing too...

[slender sonnet]

im just trying to figure out how to get 529 without buying a trink I already have 😄

[frigid lava]

currently still rocking a champion(8/8) trink

527.2

[slender sonnet]

what's champ ilvl

[frigid lava]

515

[slender sonnet]

ah

my lowest items are neck and ring 525 😄

[frigid lava]

I think my setting is wrong. I still don't break 400k.

[stuck prairie]

chat... a 495 holy pala just got fyralath instead of me after 13 kills

chat i'm sad

[misty iron]

2 more weeks buddy

[sly venture]

as a solo m+ arms warr, what trinkets to buy with dinar or bullion or whatever they are cllaed? I have 4

doing at most 14s

[elder ice]

I got Whispering Incarnate Icon first because it's solid dps even with only the dps buff. You're set with that and Algeth'ar Puzzle Box

[sacred zodiac]

could buy pips aswell

[smoky kayak]

I like Nelths more than Pips, but they're pretty comparable

[brittle cosmos]

what bullion trinket would you recommend for those that cba farming dungeon drops. already have OcE. i only do M+

[steep osprey]

I might wanna buy Nelths, does it have the animation of the void guy?

[opaque citrus]

I liked the wings from black dragonscale when I used it for a bit in s2

Felt badass

[teal fossil]

#1230008337517514772

[fading sage]

My bad, didn’t know 😅 haven’t been here since mop dropped

[brittle cosmos]

is puzzlebox worse if you have 2x blue silken lining ?

[somber lance]

Because of mastery DR?

[brittle cosmos]

yeah

[somber lance]

i don’t think so?

Did you sim

[brittle cosmos]

nah

just wondering in general

[somber lance]

most high logs or high m+ players are running double silken and puzzle

So i think its still very good

[brittle cosmos]

cool

[sage badge]

Can also sim Ashes. Might be better once you have better gear.

[brittle cosmos]

yeah. im also considering pocket anvil along with OcE

cause i cba farming dungeon drops

cause i've bought every other prio slots

[sage badge]

I run Ashes+OCE. Works pretty well. My next bullion purchase would probably be class trinket or maybe pips since both of those are better than OCE for me.

[wraith reef]

i have a Hero Idol and Hero Puzzle Box, what would be the best next move here with my bullion?

[sage badge]

For m+? Probably a stat stick to go with puzzle box

Or if you want more single target, anvil.

[sacred zodiac]

king does this work now?

i remember you said there was smth funky going on i read it fleetingly

[lean merlin]

hey, which cloak is bis if we dont want to use the silent night one?

[manic stirrup]

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/s/wQdGRpoxyI

what is this post

[sacred zodiac]

ideally you get it out of vault or drop it from m sark and catalyze it

[manic stirrup]

oh boy its bursting storming fort cant wait to not push??

[lean merlin]

nono i dont wanna use that cloak, cause it has no stamina, so i was askingf what the best alternative was

[dire hinge]

Should work, the issue you’re referring to was about the “default” sim result (just your character name) which you can ignore. Just look at the named results for comparison (bronze, emerald, etc)

[hazy flower]

I thought its competitive wow for a moment

lmao

[sacred zodiac]

and the dps loss i see from a quick sim is cause no wft and other buffs ye?

[lean merlin]

do i just get another crit/haste cloak if i dont wanna use voice cause that is the same secondary stats?

[somber lance]

its push week bbaby

i got cucked

already bought it with bullion

F

[quasi torrent]

https://i.imgur.com/SkCzD8O.png

thoughts about my guilds plans

[stable fiber]

sennarth

XD?

[somber lance]

change guilds

[jovial sun]

it only goes to 528 from vault, it's 535 from vendor

I think it's a bug but they haven't fixed it yet so still better to bullion it

[somber lance]

wrong

[jovial sun]

oh wait, wrong ring

[somber lance]

ye ye

[jovial sun]

the shield one is the bugged one

[somber lance]

this one is not the ultra rare one

[sacred zodiac]

why do you not own this yet

[somber lance]

i have it

i'm saying it's unlucky to have it in vault

[manic stirrup]

would be crininal

[hazy flower]

wouldn't be the first time

[indigo sluice]

hey, what's the best way to sim whether buzzing or howling is better for your gear?

[somber lance]

profileset."Buzzing_Rune"+="temporary_enchant=main_hand:buzzing_rune_3"
profileset."Howling_Rune"+="temporary_enchant=main_hand:howling_rune_3"
profileset."Hissing_Rune"+="temporary_enchant=main_hand:hissing_rune_3"
profileset."Whetstone"+="temporary_enchant=main_hand:primal_whetstone_3"

do an advanced sim

and paste this after the line that says "checksum"

[daring heron]

guess you can just post this any week at this point

with whatever affix

[indigo sluice]

perfect, thanks <3

[manic stirrup]

every week is a push week

sanguine is just the most annoying one

[slender sonnet]

I chose the funny option (I need 50 more flightstones)

[hallow turtle]

All I see is a ilvl lover…. lol jk

[humble bramble]

Hello any stat cap or some guide for pre arms warrior dont know on witch stat should focus

Pve

[modest moss]

Just go for high item level and then sim yourself afterwards

Haste is really nice though

[sacred zodiac]

im higher ilvl than u noob

[gray steeple]

If you’re leveling up, focus on ilvl. At 70 and a certain ilvl, you sim for recommendations

[prisma skiff]

silly question where in the logs could i see which stance was aktive in the fight ?? XD

[gray steeple]

People actually change stances? I only do when swimming in lava. 🥵

[deft mantle]

Do you use Details? If so, you can check under "Damage Done" and it should you your stances and their uptime as buffs. On logs, I believe you would check buffs as well but I could be wrong (I usually just check Details for info like that).

[sacred zodiac]

yeah i change stances when i am progressing a difficult boss or even on reclear when i want to take less damage!

[sacred zodiac]

might unironically be impossible to tell, iirc it doesnt show any stance at all if you sit in a stance the entire fight

[dire hinge]

^ this. It doesn’t show as a buff weirdly enough, but if you change to a different stance then it shows up.

[quasi torrent]

the log doesnt track "what is active" per se, it tracks changes

so if u never change stance it cant know what stance u pulled in

if u, however, swap stance it can then know what stance u had before (cause the pref buff fades) and the new one applies

[dire hinge]

Interesting, I haven’t checked but does it do the same for Phials? If you enter with a phial already active is it just not shown

[teal marsh]

Hi guys, I have 2 bullions today and I really don't know what to get. Can you help choose something, please?

[quasi torrent]

can u please get rid of those speed enchs

shield ring for sure tho.

[midnight mural]

bro wants to go fast 😄 speed bis

[teal marsh]

fair enough. I deserve that 🙂

[quasi torrent]

nah, some stuff gets broadcast on boss pull

what is active n shit

[midnight mural]

love speed

[quasi torrent]

generally stuff like raid buffs, consumes

otherwise no one would ever have augment, or food either yep

[deft mantle]

Phials show for me in buffs but not stance (couldn't find it)

[slender sonnet]

xd

[teal marsh]

Done.

[quasi torrent]

"interesting auras" is the relevant one

and this is how that would look in a log

theyre whitelisted auras here

honestly warr stances should be included in this

so yeah its a bit stupid

[cursive steeple]

Hey folks, do you know which flight colour we should use on the aberrus trinket ?

[midnight mural]

shesh what a clear

[dire hinge]

Usually bronze or emerald

[midnight mural]

OCE?

[cursive steeple]

does that depends on stat balance ?

[cursive steeple]

Soz, I don't understand your message mate

[midnight mural]

this trinket u mean ?

[cursive steeple]

Yes

[dire hinge]

And who else in your group is running the trinket and which flights they are.

Kong’s message is the name of the trinket, Ominous Chromatic Essence (or “OCE” for short)

[midnight mural]

u can do a sim with all the stats

[craggy breach]

Guys, Lego still droping on N and LFR?

this week its Amildrasil Awakened

[cursive steeple]

Thanks all of you

[dire hinge]

It drops regardless of awakened status, it just has a significantly lower chance to drop in LFR/Normal compared to Heroic/Mythic

[craggy breach]

but i think...

if AWAKENED OFF, the farm just its

on Hero?

[dire hinge]

Kill Fyrakk on the hardest difficulty you can every week, regardless of Awakened status

Don’t overthink it too much

[sacred zodiac]

i don't know what you are saying but amirdrassil will never be AWAKENED OFF again

[dire hinge]

*possibly

They could add an NPC/method to disable it. Unsure still.

[sacred zodiac]

i think that npc was there at patch start in fated

itd be weird to add it so late

[boreal quartz]

Which is horrible

I wanna do easy fyrakkus

[sacred zodiac]

no easy money for you

SUFFER!

[boreal quartz]

I just despise tindral reclear man

We wiped at 80k HP today such fun very wow

[midnight mural]

https://tenor.com/view/praying-pray-sign-of-the-cross-gif-13354227

[gaunt owl]

Execute harder ?

its like not finishing the marathon when you have 1 meter left

[boreal quartz]

If my roar crit

[gaunt owl]

did you get parried on something

if you dont get parried

that was a kill

think about it

[boreal quartz]

If i crit 1 spell ever

Or ppl properly commit to no orb

[dire hinge]

Or one person missing an enchant 😩

Healer not pressing moonfire etc

[boreal quartz]

Priest didnt holy fire

Rogue died and didnt get cr insta

Many chances

[cedar vessel]

Hey all loving arms. Playing it on my warrior. Not interested in farming legendary at this stage. What's the next best weapon I should farm?

[dire hinge]

Not enough people died to reset grieftorch 🔥

[halcyon breach]

The best you can farm is one from M+, anyone of them will work

But other than that, just buy Ashkandur if you're character is very new

[cedar vessel]

Great thank you

[halcyon breach]

It'll be your 2nd best option if no legendary

[cedar vessel]

Ohh Good idea. Thanks.!!!

[somber lance]

they saying u not locked in but they don't realize...

https://tenor.com/view/mewing-locked-in-funny-gif-2909757877821689206

[midnight mural]

🤣

[quasi torrent]

youre character

[somber lance]

Banezi can change profile pictures every day but not type in english

[halcyon breach]

I'm devoid of sleep

[somber lance]

this not the way

[halcyon breach]

but I will not change it

[quasi torrent]

I was really tired at my pc

went bed

[halcyon breach]

I was in bed 2 hours ago

[quasi torrent]

now im not tired

thoughts

😔

[halcyon breach]

Sorry to hear but don't think there's much to be done other than gg go next (close eyes challenge)

[quasi torrent]

Its hard

thoughts in head are bad

...

[halcyon breach]

the voice (of the silent star)

[quasi torrent]

the voices

they beckon me

🎰

[halcyon breach]

The voices of my teammates beckoned me and made me lose stats

[quasi torrent]

🥦

i bought broccoli today
i love broccoli

[halcyon breach]

eat it raw

[quasi torrent]

it tastes okay raw

but ill just stir fry it

[sacred zodiac]

im checking your logs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_graph

wtf man banezi?

[daring heron]

mood

[halcyon breach]

please do not expose me!

[daring heron]

the return of consistent banezi blues?

they padded too much on bear didnt they

[sacred zodiac]

banezi has not joined my voice channel in 4 months

hes changed sincve he turned yellow

neither has crit

suspicious?

[daring heron]

i havent heard your voice since we were both on argent dawn i think lol

[sacred zodiac]

good times

[daring heron]

how long ago is that now like 3 years?

[sacred zodiac]

was uh

CN i left?

[halcyon breach]

I died

to a frontal

Also haven't done clear this week yet

[daring heron]

smh blame tank i think

[halcyon breach]

The tank came with us

I think there was some weird overlap with claw and some other mechanic that we had never seen before

Don't recall seeing a blind rage into frontal in any of the pulls I've had

Or maybe I've just never paid attention enough

[obtuse girder]

hi can anyone tell me what trinkets should i get for keys like 10 to 12

[halcyon breach]

Puzzle Box + stat stick like OCE, Icon or Pips

If you have it, or want to buy it, Call to Chaos also works

[obtuse girder]

i mean im a booster so keys would finish in like 18 min puzzle is not gonna ado a lote for me

[halcyon breach]

You'll have a hard time gauging value based on the time you spend in the key

Even in short keys, Puzzle box will be your best on-use paired with a passive

But if you want to, 2x stat sticks work just fine

[outer holly]

puzzle has a pretty insane uptime in short dungeons

I think on average I see 20%

[craggy breach]

next week we will have 3 raids?

on awakened?

[halcyon breach]

Yes

[outer holly]

I think even with 3 raids, getting all 3 vault slots mythic isn't obtainable through pugging

Was kind of my hope with the fully awakened bit, but I think Kaz is just too much for the average player and that blocks me off from an entire raid

[hallow turtle]

Kaz was pugged when it was current

[mellow seal]

can you charge then usse legendary?

like mid charge

[hallow turtle]

Yes

[mellow seal]

its like canceling the channel

[hallow turtle]

I believe that is the risk. That’s why for the opener it’s safer to charge > ms > leggo

If a key you can replace ms with cleave. Leggo also benefits from the 4pc if you crit

[rancid knot]

why do people get diuarna's ring for arms? the stats are bad and unless you are playing m+ the absorb is not that helpful.

[hallow turtle]

The absorb increases bsl uptime

[gray steeple]

Haste and mastery are not bad. Helps keep BSL up. And the ilvl means more stats

[hallow turtle]

So still usually for raid. Also it’s usually my 2nd highest healing in raid.

[hallow turtle]

That’s the stats for the fire proc. Absorb ring is crit vers

[gray steeple]

Fire ring is crit/vers. Shield is haste/mastery

[hallow turtle]

Way to get AI to photoshop your pics :p

[gray steeple]

Check yourself then.

[livid furnace]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jfXt4zY1rjnbiKPEgbLrMq

[grand idol]

The shield ring caps out at a higher ilvl than any other ring available. even if the stats arent what would be considered optimal, it just has more of them.

[livid furnace]

Quick question please. Augury is simming as one of my best trinkets

Only slightly behind ominous...?

Is that right ?

[gray steeple]

435 so probably

[livid furnace]

It's ahead if puzzlebox

[sacred zodiac]

do you have all oce allies turned on

[halcyon breach]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/898417257984696360/1230013262058356766/Tumblr_l_164015255378316.gif

[livid furnace]

I just thought augury was poor for arms

Yes crit one and all allies like 1k ahead

[grand idol]

its 13 ilvls higher

[gray steeple]

I've been running Augury + Puzzlebox when Signet isn't viable and it's been good.

[livid furnace]

Ok . Was just surprised that's all.

Had pretty much written off augury for arms

But it's simming as one of my top choices

[grand idol]

because its 13 ilvls higher than the box you are comparing it to

[sacred zodiac]

ye its probs better than pbox for st but theres just inf better available to you

[lost forum]

question...if crit is our number one stat, why, when I sim on Raidbots, does it tell me that the haste/mast gems are more optimal?

[sacred zodiac]

cause haste and mastery benefit your character more right now

[hybrid sinew]

stats are constnatly in flux, crit isn't always 'the number 1 stat'

[outer holly]

Crit got canceled

[copper swan]

crit is not always the cake your character wants to eat to be more powerful

[sacred zodiac]

traditional stat priorities are kinda dead at this point anyways its not classic anymore

[outer holly]

I'm not at hit cap but the game keeps pushing me to grab arpen

wait, wrong decade

[quaint parcel]

is Ret pally similar playstyle to warrior

[inner wasp]

its similar in the sense that they're both melee?

other than that no lol

[hazy flower]

ret is not a melee

its a conspiracy made by rets

[inner wasp]

ret is a melee in the same way that beast mastery is a melee

i will not take arguments on this 1

[wind flicker]

I think ret needs more survivability buffs

I mean theyre melee after all

[sharp dust]

Ret's damage on big aoe is too low, they need a buff

[pastel moss]

uproar help with fyrakk? o.o

uncertain if it allows for a roar on both add sets

[latent moss]

yes

[sacred zodiac]

ye its good

[tribal sedge]

thinking about getting a trinket with this weeks bullion.. Was going to go for signet, but I see a lot of grieftorch in logs....Sims show signet being better. Which should I go for?

[sacred zodiac]

where are you seeing grieftorch

[tribal sedge]

1% loss and the signet is about .4% more dps

[latent moss]

2 minute terros kills where the entire raid team dies so the warrior can get 15 resets

and do infinite damage to pad

[sacred zodiac]

top 100 representation is like <=2 grieftorches

none on the bosses that matter

[latent moss]

ye idk i just assumed people did that

[sacred zodiac]

ye they dont

[latent moss]

weird

s4 nothing else to do

[sacred zodiac]

you go convince people to jump off an edge

best you can maybe do is convince a shaman to use their ankh offensively

[latent moss]

got timed out

ye true its hard to convince people to keep playing

let alone do dumb shit

[sacred zodiac]

idk what the % mean cause idk how much you sim for but most ppl just go pbox/oce and replace the pbox with signet on longer fights (if they have it)

and again where are you seeing grieftorch in logs is this in like zerg hc runs where ppl croak constantly or

i see no representation in mythic

[latent moss]

goofy ahh trinket

youre nothing but food to me ahh trinket

[sacred zodiac]

holy moly hc fyrakk has almost 50% grieftorch i see it

[tribal sedge]

it was heroic...my fault for looking at logs that way lol

the guild my warrior is in is AOTC

[sacred zodiac]

i see

i mean if you expect your guildies to die a lot (multiple times per pull) then sure send a grieftorch

[tribal sedge]

Im not lucky enough to have puzzle box yet...but have been trying to get it

thanks for the input 🙂

[sacred zodiac]

might want to alter the oce advice if your guild can't stack it consistently

[chilly tapir]

So question... is blazebinders hoof from Nokhud simming insanely high? I have it and it's simming higher than any other trinkets other than cataclysm brand

[sacred zodiac]

its good but shouldnt be outsimming raid trinkets

[chilly tapir]

when i do simcraft/raidbots its simming higher than both WII and OCE

[languid spade]

Hey Guys, currently for M+ / PVE , which Trinkets are BiS ? ( want to spend my bullions )

[chilly tapir]

like simming it vs OCE.. it's 515 and OCE is 525.. it's showing as a 1300 dps increase

[sacred zodiac]

How many allies are you selecting OCE with

[chilly tapir]

Ooh... didn't know i had to toggle that in the sim

lemme recheck

yeah nvm that was the issue, thanks thats why I asked

[gritty tartan]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fp56LYL1i3khFpW1QWKHjm hi!! i need help in my vault please!! 😄

[hallow turtle]

Is that a mythic track puzzle box?

[gritty tartan]

yep

[hallow turtle]

Take that

You won’t get it again

[wind flicker]

Trust the sims

[eternal vortex]

I would pick the m pbox but trust what the robot says🤖

[hallow turtle]

The only other mythic track item are shoulders which can be obtained easily. Also, I doubt a puzzle box is going to be out simmed.

[gritty tartan]

okok thanks 😄

[gritty tartan]

thank you 😄

all

[wild heart]

perfectly balanced

[sage badge]

[charred brook]

if im running BSL should i not run crit phial

[dire hinge]

it's fine to run crit phial, especially with Broodkeeper shield, Ignore Pain, and other active defensives we have

[charred brook]

ok yeah i have brood shield so

i figured it was fine but

i never actually asked anybody lol

[outer holly]

though it is a lot more expensive

[prime grotto]

so i have OCE, augury, iridius, and puzzle box. what would the best combo for m+ be

aug/puzzle?

[reef glade]

prolly yea, maybe oce if u rly need the secondary stats from it but eh

[prime grotto]

okay cool

[reef glade]

U can kinda sim 5target 5 minute for a “general” understanding

[prime grotto]

i like iridius and OCE on prot for the vers steroid

and strenght on use is nice

[reef glade]

[prime grotto]

ty ty

[formal meadow]

Which oathstone is best to use for OCE as arms

[frigid lava]

I use haste... but I'm guessing whatever u lack

[covert jackal]

The one that sims more depending on your gear

[grand idol]

also, while one of the stats might be slightly better the second or third stat will be better if you provide a buff to everyone else they are lacking cause you get a small amount of the stat you are changing from back.

[verbal marten]

turned on dstance during smoldy and forgot to turn it off for 20s

kill me now

[frigid lava]

time to get a stance WA

[verbal marten]

yeah

[outer holly]

Sometimes I'll just like space out during a pull, and I won't even notice the WA yelling at me

https://tenor.com/view/office-space-stare-desk-pretend-gif-3810324

[mild zenith]

hi there friends i have a big question i have two tokens to buy something you recomend if i buy the OCE trinket?¿

[dire hinge]

There are some suggested purchases in the #updates-midnight message channel, for different content types which might be helpful!

[frigid lava]

augury fucks @gutshot in BH

Not sure how that was possible.. it happened

[glossy olive]

Why are all new dungeons designed so all the effects are the same color as other effects and the ground they're on.

[boreal quartz]

You ever done mythic sark?

It gets worse

[glossy olive]

Am I thinking like a noob or is that not fun or require skill. I can understand it for older dungeons but why aren't they taking that into account with newer ones when they claim that they want us to use addons less.

[boreal quartz]

You cant make more playable with addons that's the fun part

[glossy olive]

Doesnt DBM tell you to "move"

Deleting small wigs for DBM for Mythic+

[boreal quartz]

I just assign sounds to stuff and if i hear the sound i look at my guy more

[dire hinge]

agreed by all means, it's really bad accessibility problem

there are some game settings you can adjust which can help slightly, but at it's core it's a visual/cognitive accessiblity nightmare

[smoky kayak]

that's why my D Stance covers like 1/5th of my screen lol

[steep osprey]

Can I see lmao

[normal mason]

Did this a few times in season 1 before I got the weakaura too, pretty much went a full raid in dstance

[rigid otter]

is augery any good for arms? like even in mythic+?

[wooden thistle]

is juggernaut worth it for dungeons the specc i Mean or just go for standard dungeon build?

[boreal quartz]

Standard is better

[wooden thistle]

❤️

[somber lance]

Not the worst not the best

It’s not a priority to buy it with bullions

[frigid lava]

I bought it with bullions and i like it

[somber lance]

But if your gear is pretty bad, augury can still be one of your better trinkets

[rigid otter]

okay, currently rocking mythic oce and hero puzzlebox

[somber lance]

Same

And augury is worse

Than that combo

One way to look at it is simming all the bullion items with droptimizer

I’ve never had augury as an upgrade since having oce and box

[rigid otter]

yeah thats true, i have like all big ticket items now

so after 2 weeks idk what do even get haha

[somber lance]

cloak for fun

Call to chaos

Asscandy to play fury

[astral yarrow]

get out

[rigid otter]

they truly killed fury

got cloak, maybe i could call to chaos haha

[somber lance]

Apologies

[frigid lava]

Nelth last boss

like.. 3 mins ago

[somber lance]

I actually havent touched fury this season lol

arms is in such a good state

[rigid otter]

continue not to touch it haha

[somber lance]

Is this like a 1m30 fight tho?

I think you high rolled. It’s definitely not a bad trinket

Now do that same encounter with puzzlebox

[frigid lava]

box is strong but not a fan of really long CD

also i need some crit

[daring heron]

aug isnt too bad for arms

thats vs hero pbox

[astral yarrow]

abolish pbox

i just want icon and mentally afk

[somber lance]

What are these ratings

+1.7k dps?

[astral yarrow]

we have no ret aura or monk debuff in raids so i dont even care to tryhard

[daring heron]

ye +1.7k cause i

cbad finding the report on raidbots

[somber lance]

Oh i never seen that ui

[rigid otter]

how do i read that @daring heron i dont know what the numbers mean

[astral yarrow]

meanwhile i have Walli in DMs sending pictures of rank 1s and the man is full bis already simming 444k lol

[daring heron]

it's just my droptimizer upgrade numbers

[astral yarrow]

that site is so good for 99% of guilds

[somber lance]

What is the name of the website

[daring heron]

everyone posts their droptimizers into wowaudit and you'll get a list like this for all items

[somber lance]

Oh but then you must update the numbers every week?

[daring heron]

yes

[somber lance]

V good

14k signet

[frigid lava]

10~12 is really rough right now.... so many tanks trying to do MDI pulls...

[astral yarrow]

you run 2 sims and paste the link into the site and it populates all relevant items with dps gain

your loot council can setup rules for the sims (has to be fully upgraded items or some shit)

[rigid otter]

are the numbers just a dps thing?

[somber lance]

Looks like dps upgrade yes

Vs your current setup

[fickle lotus]

Is this always a 5 Min 1T Sim ?

[daring heron]

havent heard of anyone doing anything other than 5 min 1t

dont know if thats an option lol

but yeah both guilds ive been in that used this just did 5 min 1t, it's standard

[daring heron]

i dont reach that with brand and sark cloak, my last big upgrades

[astral yarrow]

60% BSL and 85% corrupting rage

[daring heron]

mayhe human diff and small stats optimisation

ah ok thats 10% more bsl and 5% rage

sounds about right then

[astral yarrow]

mf'er is simming 20k higher than me

[somber lance]

im losing 5k dps just by being orc

Its actually stupid

[midnight mural]

he cooking his sim good

[thick kelp]

nothing compared to this

[midnight mural]

BSL uptime so big

i regret my ring purchase sorta

but not alot

[astral yarrow]

i somehow had 50% on tindral

[magic canopy]

@daring heron what program do you use to stream to youtube simultainously

[astral yarrow]

so like 60% isnt that far off on a lot of bosses

[boreal quartz]

Which of the rings

[astral yarrow]

back when arms was good

[midnight mural]

Crafted ring 😄

[daring heron]

still obs

[thick kelp]

Shielding ring honestly goated for bsl uptime

[daring heron]

i have to use a plugin for it - eposvox has a video on it dont remember the title

[magic canopy]

gotcha ill take a look for it

[fresh spire]

You can just make a new craft ez

[magic canopy]

ive been useing streamlabs obs but its so bloated

[midnight mural]

yeah i need to get shieldring next boulion purchase for sure - and then a second BSL for max paddddddd

[daring heron]

i havent regretted making 2x bsl a single time this season

[fresh spire]

Brood ring is giga strong

[midnight mural]

vers wrists kinda unnecesary when nothing hurts

[daring heron]

you get more total stats from bsl anyway on average

meaning your sim will just balance your stats and maybe you get more vers in the end anyway

[fresh spire]

When rings up with ip and spell reflect and hp bar just barely moves

[magic canopy]

i did a 3m sim and my next best trinket is Ashes

[fresh spire]

Ashes bis for 3 min

[daring heron]

makes sense ya

[magic canopy]

im just gonna stick to OCE + Icon until the fight is 5min

[fresh spire]

Got a tank with icon?

[magic canopy]

no

even with no buffs its simming higher then anvil as my second trinket

[fresh spire]

I got brand yesterday

And fuck me on fyrak it felt so weak not having puzzle on pull 😦

[magic canopy]

i hate the puzzy B

[fresh spire]

The cast is cringe but the dam is pog

Genuinely question if box is play as we lust moment execute window comes and cds are ready too

[fickle lotus]

Same. This Cast is so "antiwarrior"

[daring heron]

rubiks cube haters smh

[fickle lotus]

Gigapull... Wait.... i have to open a Box for 3 hours while standing still to press 8000 Keys in the next 20 Seconds.

[magic canopy]

bring back the real cube

ICB

[daring heron]

gigapulls take forever to gather and stabilise

[magic canopy]

i miss De Other Side

might be my favorite dungeon

[daring heron]

just spend 1.5s to cast cube while you wait for that

power crystal was nice yea

[magic canopy]

gotta love giving your healer mana on accident

lmao

[fickle lotus]

Abselut true but still feels weird

[daring heron]

oh that trinket

[magic canopy]

yeah da cube

[daring heron]

forgot its real name

starts with i

i think...

[fresh spire]

Overwhelming powe crystal

[thick kelp]

iqd

[magic canopy]

Inscrutable Quantam Divice

[fresh spire]

Ohhhh that cube

[daring heron]

yeee iqd that one

i wasnt an enjoyer of that trinket

[magic canopy]

on use ???????????????

[daring heron]

cause opc existed

[fresh spire]

When it proc the 2nd stat not your best

[magic canopy]

it was so goofy

[thick kelp]

lorgok soundboard

mastery proc

brrrrrrrrrrr

[fresh spire]

Trinkets so boring nowdays

Bring back class trinkets yep

[magic canopy]

Its fun watching my old guild raid becuase they all use the Pedro Lust weakaura

[daring heron]

[chrome thicket]

Hey guys any addon or WA that shows my DR on stats?

[magic canopy]

look at that arms neck

[fresh spire]

Kinda miss those like legion ones where every roll had one and when you had all the buffs they owned

Not like cringe stat icon

[astral yarrow]

@visual fern will have your head

[fresh spire]

[magic canopy]

:pedro:

https://tenor.com/view/mapache-pedro-gif-7206648027763736533

[rigid otter]

the pedro on lust WA is the bis WA i hear

[astral yarrow]

pirate dancing WA is the only real lust WA

that or the mario one

[gray herald]

[slender sonnet]

[gaunt owl]

[warped ridge]

[frigid lava]

I haven't been able to time a single dungeon.

[robust elk]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/true-stat-values

[frigid lava]

today

EVERY GOD DAMN DH PULLS LIKE MDI SHIT

[eternal vortex]

They think they are naowh

“You are not that guy.”

[midnight mural]

Ronnie Coleman pumping iron is my favorite. I cooked it myself

[frigid lava]

I cant get past the first pack of BH lol 3 runs in a row

[daring heron]

thats a pretty standard pull these days

[frigid lava]

either pull too much... or tank just dies .. or dps dc's

[eternal vortex]

Skill issue

[somber lance]

Pick better tanks

rating is everything

[sacred zodiac]

miss ???

[halcyon breach]

miss her ( :her: )

[woven wasp]

:her:

[livid furnace]

Could anyone do me a favour and help with simming Ominous Trinket please?

Not sure if I am doing it right as not showing as much of an upgrade over Augury which seems odd to me?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jfXt4zY1rjnbiKPEgbLrMq

[daring heron]

[halcyon breach]

no nitro moment!

fuck!!

[halcyon breach]

It's not showing because you didn't select it at all

Also consider changing your BSL uptime

Because 80% is not realistic

[woven wasp]

simply be built different

[sharp wyvern]

Just don't raid mythic and it is

[daring heron]

reminds me i wanna try walli settings

[woven wasp]

100% corrupting 100% blue?

[daring heron]

60 bsl and 85 rage, he got 444k(?)

[halcyon breach]

That has to be with PI

Also those are the settings I use, since they're very realistic to get if you're good at pressing at least 1 (one) defensive

[daring heron]

no i can get 438 with 50bsl80rage

[halcyon breach]

huh

man

I'm so down bad or something

I sim 416k

[daring heron]

assuming i get siggy brand and sark cloak

which is possible this week

close enough considering im nelf i guess and walli is human

[somber lance]

Do you guys sim with enh and PI?

[daring heron]

no pi

yes to enh cause we have one

[somber lance]

Just making sure because those are some giga numbers

[livid furnace]

I linked the wrong Sim!! Doh!

But just tried again and it is simming 4k higher? It wasnt last night lol

So that seems right now doesnt it

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eFDwhwVwmHn3Ny1AMqLvuZ

[daring heron]

seems fine

you're padding your sim with 80% bsl tho

but you're missing almost 2k dps per socket

some ilvl too

[sacred zodiac]

holy moly 80% bsl

[sacred zodiac]

get it added as an emote

[halcyon breach]

I've been held at gun point to petition multiple emotes to be added

This is not the way

[daring heron]

banezi needs to level up to blue first

[halcyon breach]

I hope I never ding

[livid furnace]

Yes missing ilvl upgrades on gear

2k per socket. What do you mean ? In that I have fury orientated gems?

[woven wasp]

youre missing helm waist and a ring

[daring heron]

yeah sockets are worth nearly 2k each and you're missing a few

[livid furnace]

Thanks so much for replying

Yeah but the Only way to get them is weekly vault isn't it ?

So once no more gear upgrades I can get them

What is realistic bsl for mythic raiding out if interest
And do you think that is the right one to go for?

[somber lance]

I skipped avoidance bracers just to get sockets

Yolo it will just force me to play better

[halcyon breach]

Sockets when you're at your ilvl are typically a bigger upgrade than a hero -> myth track upgrade

And 60% BSL is very realistic

[daring heron]

i value terts over sockets tbh

sockets i can get later

terts are full rng

[wind flicker]

Depends on the tertiery i guess

Avoidance for sure

[somber lance]

Yeah but you push 20s

And i do 13s

[daring heron]

any of them are fine

[wind flicker]

20% speed gamer? 😄

[daring heron]

speed good leech good avoid very good

leech actually very good too

i can sustain myself against p much anything on aoe

[wind flicker]

Leech is surprisingly good yea

[halcyon breach]

leech = more BSL

[wind flicker]

Ur healer will love you if you have big leech on 3rd boss halls

[livid furnace]

All great info. Thanks guys

Should be able to full upgrade gear this week and will likely snag mythic signet as well which should help

Only been arms for 1 week so still learning it

Been fury for years

[daring heron]

3rd boss halls is so brutal

only boss i feel like laren's class isnt able to keep us alive

[wind flicker]

Yeah shammy aint to nice on that one

Poor Laren

[somber lance]

A lot of people switched this season. I love it

[daring heron]

even though i did 100k hps as fury i still died in the end at 10% boss hp on an 18

[wind flicker]

Have you tried running it as arms with fueled by violence?

[livid furnace]

I am still a bit unsure.

I just love fury but want to be top of the meters so when my arms build is like almost 40k more dps I have to switch Really!

[daring heron]

nope but doubt itd be any better than fury anyway, the 10% dr is too good

[wind flicker]

Fair

[daring heron]

avoid doesnt work on the ticks

[livid furnace]

Arms feels a bit weird in terms of rotation

[wind flicker]

I want to test it out with arms, test out the amount of hps with fueled by violence tbh

[livid furnace]

And the aoe is a bit mind boggling so far this week

[somber lance]

Only in aoe. ST is clear as day to me

[wind flicker]

Does second wind work on it? Similarly to bursting? I doubt but might be worth to test out

[daring heron]

nope

[wind flicker]

Unluku

[grim gyro]

Hey guys do you know any cataclysm warrior discord server please? Seems like this one is for retail😃

[thick kelp]

fight club

[grim gyro]

Give me link bruda

Please

[thick kelp]

https://discord.com/invite/RbCZJtw

[wind flicker]

@daring heron Has Laren tried Potion of Frozen Focus or Potion of Chilled Clarity?

[boreal quartz]

Im psure a healer has used mana pots

[wind flicker]

I know some healers that time Frozen focus right after the ring stuff happens and get a full channel off

[wind flicker]

Im sure he does, but these are not ur standard mana pots x)

[boreal quartz]

There's 2 im psure you have time to try all of them over the course of the entire expansion

[daring heron]

i trust laren knows what hes doing

doubt is for losers who eventually team disband

[slender sonnet]

Can’t doubt and team disband if no team

[boreal quartz]

@slender sonnet SoO Team today?

Its tusks thursday for me

[slender sonnet]

Maybe

[boreal quartz]

In a while tho need to eat n shit

@sacred zodiac osmanischer Drehfleichrucksack Donnerstag?

[slender sonnet]

I’m at work

and I kinda just wanna go to bed

[boreal quartz]

No pressure ye

[slender sonnet]

My Netflix got hacked today

[boreal quartz]

Get fucked dog

[slender sonnet]

Not friends anymore

Soz it had to be like this

[boreal quartz]

I respect your fursona for this wtfrick

Or is it a wolf idk

[slender sonnet]

It’s loona

From helluva boss

[boreal quartz]

So what would your creature be

Her?

[sacred zodiac]

are they open today

[boreal quartz]

Ofc?

[sacred zodiac]

holiday no

idk

[boreal quartz]

Not im Hamburgo

[woven wasp]

:her:

[boreal quartz]

SO REAL

[slender sonnet]

So real

[boreal quartz]

Ok but whatd it be

Im curious

[slender sonnet]

Loona is a her yeah

Google her

[boreal quartz]

And what would you be

Former guildie of mine is a pink Wolf for example

Plays druid

[tidal mango]

any remix gamer knows which stat should we stack?

[boreal quartz]

All of em really, haste is fun and vers is good for gems

[severe saffron]

armor

[tidal mango]

vers for gems? oh ive heared they scale with haste and crit instead

[slender sonnet]

What do you mean

[boreal quartz]

Your fursona

[slender sonnet]

Oh I don’t have one

[boreal quartz]

Fair enough, me neither

[slender sonnet]

I used to but that was like 8 years ago

[meager prairie]

People are playing warbreaker on mythic tindral even when not taking bladestorm talents?

[halcyon breach]

Yes to just do damage to roots

[boreal quartz]

Yea it's more pad dam than bs

Bs is very shit

[meager prairie]

I meant no other aoe talents

[boreal quartz]

Not a very bursty spell

[halcyon breach]

BS does not get any value on Tindral unless your group somehow has literal no AoE damage

[meager prairie]

as in like without cleave or bs

but yeah

[halcyon breach]

Yes

[boreal quartz]

Iftk and wb is all the pad you need

[halcyon breach]

You lose boss damage for root damage by just swapping it over

But that's all you'd need yeah

[boreal quartz]

Or just play full st

Boss is off allstars

[meager prairie]

Is it worth it if assigned to first flare bomb?

[slender sonnet]

Big beige number good

[halcyon breach]

I'd ask to be assigned to 2nd flare

[still fox]

can we the bullion cloak swap with catalyst?

[meager prairie]

I'll rarely be on feet on the ground as the fight goes

[halcyon breach]

But honestly, just go full ST for Tindral

You can already do plenty root damage with Dreadnaught + Whirlwind

[slender sonnet]

No

[meager prairie]

Oh? does this help out?

[halcyon breach]

It's better timings for Warrior

[still fox]

ty ♥️

[boreal quartz]

First is giga grief for ur cds

2nd is smooth

[quasi torrent]

real lore about tindral:

just do bombs and seeds and boss dies

[boreal quartz]

We wiped at 80k HP - bobm was done instead of commit rip

[slender sonnet]

Commit commit

Always commit

[daring heron]

if you wanna pad build on tindral

dont

[hazy flower]

Cant even pad nowadays

Shit just dies too fast

[slender sonnet]

Just don’t do Tindral

[kindred glen]

hello is the pvp set nice or not ?

[slender sonnet]

In what way

[kindred glen]

pre bis

[slender sonnet]

What’s pre Bis

[slender sonnet]

Oh ew classic

There’s a fight club discord for classic

I don’t have the link

[kindred glen]

oupsi am sorry xD

[hazy flower]

spam hc dungeons

[uncut hound]

if nobody else is wearing OCE in my group, Icon will be better right?

[brittle pelican]

damn your head is big at that angle

[fringe moon]

Run a sim without buffs to see which is better. Would also depend on what color oce you’re running.

[uncut hound]

I should've simmed before i bought smh darn

[wary raft]

geenrally keep cata questions in the #mop-discussion but the 2 set is good, only very slightly better if you got 346s in those slots u are doing fine

also that channel above has a link to fight club in the pins

[uncut stag]

Idk if I am genarally bored of the game at this point or not looting fyr'alath after months pissed me off too much
but unsubbed and deleted the folder. see you (maybe in xpac after tww or never)

[teal fossil]

👏

[short spear]

man

neltharus hunters shouldnt exist lol

[olive nest]

Its still a good trinket, even in pugs a few people will usually have it

M+ is different ofc but in raid I mean

[zenith warren]

I was wondering why my sim is 10k lower and then I saw 80% bsl uptime xd

I think 50% is more realistic

[visual fern]

Totally valid to say it was not enjoyable
....even though it was well designed

[hazy flower]

iirc 65 is what everyone sims with

[somber lance]

I thought people were simming with 50

[halcyon breach]

60%~ is realistic

[olive nest]

ayyee ive been simming 50% so free gains

[hallow turtle]

60-65% was my uptime for bsl this week in mythic

[livid furnace]

Good to know!

WIll adjust

[olive nest]

[halcyon breach]

Anything 70% and above though I'd argue it's starting to reach territories that aren't frequent enough to consider practical

[livid furnace]

Critcake. WOuld you mind linking your Sim again just so I can have a look please

[astral yarrow]

write that in the search bar

[hazy flower]

#fury message

[teal fossil]

from:aagard has:nudes

[hazy flower]

done

[astral yarrow]

😳

[olive nest]

[burnt lion]

What’s bsl?

[astral yarrow]

Blue Silken Lining

[livid furnace]

@astral yarrow amaing thank you

[magic canopy]

Blue linen Socks

[misty iron]

I've only had a few pulls on nymue as warr, it looks like 2nd add should be best for CDs or am I wrong?

2nd mythic add i mean

[olive nest]

yes

2nd lines up perfectly

[tepid citrus]

18% speed gamer here. zoom zoom

[somber lance]

double BSL is 5k more dps compared to vers wrist and 1 BSL

sound correct?

[olive nest]

yep

[magic canopy]

Big Soggy Log

[daring heron]

british sign language

[somber lance]

big sucking lips

[frigid lava]

which gear do u have it on?

I'm going to make one next week

[magic canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/ltg-british-food-mods-low-tier-god-gif-9108075214677777615

[halcyon breach]

Wrist and Neck

[frigid lava]

I have vers wrist and lariat 😦

bye bye lariat

[halcyon breach]

Yeah well you can't use either one anyway if you make BSL

[somber lance]

bye bye vers wrists

2 BSL is my new best friend

[gilded turret]

Puzzle box sims much lower for me, even in 3 min fight. But I see all the top logs playing puzzle box?

[olive nest]

What are you simming it against

and what ilvl is the box

[gilded turret]

522 and 528 box vs 528 Signet and 528 OCE

[olive nest]

528 signet and 528 oce with all buffs will beat box

3 minutes however im suprised

[sonic zealot]

For pugs which 2 trinkets should we be using?

Pug mythic + that is

[gilded turret]

I dont see any top logs running Signet and OCE and I;m sure any could have both by now if theyu wanted

[tepid citrus]

Ignis Frag, Nelth Trinket, Test of Might, Bonegrinder. Stonks

[gilded turret]

Thats what my 3 min sim looks like

So even at 3 min puzzle box == signet brand for me

[gilded turret]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9U9SLv2L9zm8Lzn1tBBtu8

[tepid citrus]

Puzzle box sims a lot lower for me than my other trinkets. Idk.

[sacred zodiac]

80% bsl uptime

????

[outer holly]

kekw

Was literally just going through WCL to see what average raid uptime was to see how bad that comparison is

Smolderon: 36%

[sacred zodiac]

should go lowest around ~50% unless ur categorically eating shit

[fringe moon]

PB only sims higher for me on 4min fights

[somber lance]

on smoldie do we just get orbs as far as possible

so they align with CDs?

[sacred zodiac]

same as fury last season

[gilded turret]

Depends a lot on the fight, lots of encounters its really high, on some not so high

[outer holly]

So basically what you want to do, Is jump the moment the knockback happens, so you can get thrown in to the fire and not have to participate in the fight due to "Unlucky mechanics"

[sacred zodiac]

sim the low end then instead of the high end

[fringe moon]

that's fine...break even for BSL vs. flame tempered was 30% last time I checked

[outer holly]

BSL is without a doubt better, but 80% is highly disingenuous for most content is the point

[sonic zealot]

I see a lot of people using box and oce in mythic + if I plan to pug with my arms warrior which trinket should I use beside oce if my pug does not have?

[outer holly]

I wonder if there's a dungeon Storm eater's boon could legitimately work in. HOI maybe? dragon packs are the only true avoidable aoe threat I can think of

[hallow turtle]

Yes, with about 2secs before knockback. Leap to the putter dark ring. Do this for the 1st 2 intermissions then stay close for the others

[tepid citrus]

Ole pally thought he had me till the end.

[hallow turtle]

You got him by one MS good job. Best the rets up

[quartz cedar]

That's what my sims tell me to do. OCE + Branch for patchwerk 3 boss 3 minutes

[gilded turret]

Yeah this is true, most of my prog fights seem to be between 40-60%. However, puzzle box still sims terribly for me even at 40% BSL uptime

[meager prairie]

Is there someone that's actually reliable that i can request to check my logs for this week to see what i could improve on?

[outer holly]

oh yeah, the only redeeming feature of puzzy b is that it's a 30 second buff that you can abuse at the start of a dungeon

[halcyon breach]

@sacred zodiac I have caught you having an average of 19.4% uptime of BSL throughout your entire mythic reclear, thoughts?

[outer holly]

Usually when I do a log review, the same person comes back to this channel and quotes me asking if it's right, so I'd say just ask your question here lmao

[sacred zodiac]

PROVIDE PROOF!

[quasi torrent]

this has to be fake lore

[olive nest]

HOLLY

[meager prairie]

I guess one thing i've sorta noticed I do and idk if it's right is if CS is coming up in 3~ seconds, and i don't have op, or MS i'll default to tclap so i can try to fit 2 ww into CS is that right? For ToM

[latent moss]

holy

19.4%

[daring heron]

[sage badge]

Best arms warrior I know

[upper sleet]

🐐

[olive nest]

[daring heron]

big natty overall actually holy

[latent moss]

[meager prairie]

Mine is tiny in compairison lmfao

[latent moss]

critcake is using game deficit

him not normally

[reef glade]

haha… yeah… I also killed that boss this week haha… surely…

[somber lance]

damn gz

das big

do you ever get PI?

[reef glade]

[halcyon breach]

please don't bring my rank 19 further down

My Fatal didn't align with intermission

It's so gg parsing as Arms on that fight

[somber lance]

do you guys go full ST on gnar?

dont need improv SS do i?

[boreal quartz]

nah

soa is more aoe too

[daring heron]

not rly in raid

[somber lance]

gucci

[manic stirrup]

im still a spear highroll believer

if ur lucky it had to be better surely

[quasi torrent]

https://i.imgur.com/crQTiFb.png

ur aug

[manic stirrup]

on smoldy

[quasi torrent]

s

are fucking griefing

[reef glade]

classic aug on smolderon shenanigans

[quasi torrent]

lets not buff this guy in this period

[somber lance]

my breaking point for 522 signet and box is 4m

as soon as i switch to 5, signet pulls ahead

sound correct?

[quasi torrent]

reasonable yes

[reef glade]

[teal fossil]

also 4 minute box is so broken

because the fight end as your 2nd box ends

[somber lance]

yes true true

[daring heron]

i've no clue how to read that

i got what i wanted

brand dropped gg

[quasi torrent]

theyre buffing u perma

except for exe

which is the only time they should be buffing u really

[daring heron]

aaaa

[outer holly]

Those stats tho

[teal fossil]

those stats looking kinda ass

[bold jolt]

Dont matter if your 529 kek

[frigid lava]

cake is about 100% farmed

[olive nest]

WHUH

xD

[reef glade]

didn’t u say aug buff on smolderon just like giga pads your log cause it doesn’t attribute back to aug, so you’d want it for all the intermissions

[quasi torrent]

fixed

[reef glade]

ain’t no way

[quasi torrent]

yes way

[gaunt owl]

thats was so long ago too

[reef glade]

https://tenor.com/view/brutal-kitty-battle-kitty-battle-kitten-attack-kittens-fight-gif-7508370341682640059

[tall hemlock]

Grats

[halcyon breach]

Get out speeded

[daring heron]

i can one up you but then i lose leech

[halcyon breach]

Speed > leech to run out of mechanics

more uptime

[sacred zodiac]

i have more item levels than you