arms

[gaunt owl]

i did something so bad in my fyralath line

[crimson charm]

Quite sure the axe doesn't count as an ability

Same as with Trinkets

[latent moss]

oh yeah true impale is from abilities

i think it works with tier(?)

[crimson charm]

Blizzard has been very good at specifying that such things are ability only modifiers

Unless you're a WW

WW scales up all trinket and gear procs

[boreal quartz]

love jfs

brew used to but they fixed their stuff

[crimson charm]

To be fair, why fix something that noone is using?

[boreal quartz]

i mean brew was relevant in aberrus for raw dam on a tank

but thats such a nieche thing

[proud plover]

now thats a nice number

[latent moss]

brew

[cold elbow]

Im a noob warrior what's EB?

[crimson charm]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=383219/exhilarating-blows

[cold elbow]

Thanks

[latent moss]

the real ones know eb stands for enduring blow

[gaunt owl]

imagine Enduring Blow and MC

if we had those

with Battlelord on top of that

just pure madness

[proud plover]

shouldn't that be cs=not up?

[latent moss]

pure mortal madnes

[gaunt owl]

yeah i'm trying to fix it

its just not doing it properly

not sure why

[latent moss]

i mean it's !cs.up

which means not up

[gaunt owl]

i tried debuff.colossus_smash.down

and its still send it

[latent moss]

i like how readable the apl is

[gaunt owl]

i'm doing a debuff.colossus_smash.remains>gcd

to check

but i need multiple sim to have the lineup happen

sometimes it do feel like you do it right

and its just not cooperating

[dull siren]

[latent moss]

noob on computer cant write apl

[gaunt owl]

[proud plover]

ill be bored in tw while you write apl fixes lol

[crimson charm]

Need to do a ( ) around all of the initial things, and then add the !cs line

[gaunt owl]

yeah guess it's the problem

[crimson charm]

So it says 'use axe if (x|y|z)&!cs up

[latent moss]

oh there is a |

[gaunt owl]

was just reading the wiki again to see

[latent moss]

didnt see there was or operator

[gaunt owl]

when its part you dont see often you forgor

i hate those long ass line

[crimson charm]

You should ask Archi sometime about the lines I used to try and push back in the days

[dull siren]

get a guild b4 you do APL

[latent moss]

[gaunt owl]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8pHjadJfEJ9cpYA4N47ckG

ok recooked the line

now its fine

i'm so tired i was going in circle

[latent moss]

STOP

INCREASING

[gaunt owl]

oops

[latent moss]

OUR DAMAGE

[gaunt owl]

i gained

[latent moss]

!!!!!

[proud plover]

rofl

[gaunt owl]

time to swap back to spiteful serenity

[proud plover]

nerfs inc

[latent moss]

block this channel remove all evidence

[dull siren]

Spiteful Serenity is good

100% ToM

into Fatal Mark

Just haven't had a optimized APL

[latent moss]

pi value

[dull siren]

actions+=/invoke_external_buff,name=power_infusion,if=debuff.colossus_smash.up&fight_remains>=135|(target.health.pct<35

[latent moss]

130% tom

[gaunt owl]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mnWDK11sq5MYkDDX4Cz5Ww

those are the real numbers

[latent moss]

BUFF ARMS BLIZZ PLEASE

[dull siren]

funny how this is 5k behind @jovial marsh's DK

[latent moss]

how are dks

simming

with fated gear

[dull siren]

409?

[gaunt owl]

more than us

[dull siren]

I think

[latent moss]

xdd

[dull siren]

Dev Evoker #1

Arms or Rogue is #2

[latent moss]

isnt outlaw #1

[dull siren]

Nah dev is cranking

🐉

[latent moss]

if ppaw doesnt stop

we will be at 500k

[dull siren]

He's cookin to slow

[latent moss]

someone stop him

highly illegal cooking

[dull siren]

all you have to do is talk about Rolex's or any other watch

and he's gone

[gaunt owl]

Season will be over and i will find something by talking with somebody

[dull siren]

for 3years

yapping

[gaunt owl]

its like this

[dull siren]

nvm

I just checked up on

dev evokers

[gaunt owl]

its such a small gain from Fatality gains

[dull siren]

Saeldur — Idag 23:09
Devastation evoker 460k

OMEGALULL

460k

[latent moss]

XDDDD

nono

they are reverse sandbagging

[boreal quartz]

and ppl will still play aug

xdd

[dull siren]

including lego effect

[latent moss]

so that they dont have to play aug

[dull siren]

447k if u don't count it

[boreal quartz]

cheating then

[latent moss]

cheating

[boreal quartz]

arms is 570k if u count bshout

[dull siren]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mkMJGd6EcaQtbwK8JjtWow

[boreal quartz]

idiot sims

[dull siren]

Stop yappin

[latent moss]

arms is 640 if u play spiteful serenity and get pi'd

[rare kite]

i mean the evoker weapon buffs themselves the most

[latent moss]

950% tom into fatality

[jovial marsh]

Technically taez lol. He did all the work.

[dull siren]

eitherway dk low

deserved

[jovial marsh]

Just keep kicking the poor buggers while they are down lol

[boreal quartz]

taking revenge for pi being perma on dk for all of df

[gaunt owl]

wtf did he do to get that ?

[crimson charm]

Simming with multiple dragons, and showing raid dps, rather than individual dps

You'll notice the RDPS for raid sims

[gaunt owl]

time to do a 20 warrior sims

[dull siren]

🤷‍♂️

I'm not a evoker enjoyer

[latent moss]

someone stop him

[dull siren]

He did mention that Aug is 2nd on sims but they can never reach that number

[latent moss]

he will get us removed from the game

[boreal quartz]

anda can

[rare kite]

dev nr 1?

[dull siren]

y

[dull siren]

@quasi torrent can't even get up from the bed

[latent moss]

@gaunt owl send apl i want to cook with pi i have some illegal tech in mind

[gaunt owl]

you dont really need to do something fancy for PI

its secrelty in there

[proud plover]

secret pi tech? sounds like running only priest heals and them giving you every pi for every cs

[quasi torrent]

sael lore

[dull siren]

seal

🦭

[quasi torrent]

im built diff on aug

Rank 1 no addons

🤷‍♂️

[dull siren]

actions+=/invoke_external_buff,name=power_infusion,if=debuff.colossus_smash.up&fight_remains>=135|(target.health.pct<35

it's just this line

[boreal quartz]

still incapable of making their dragon not look like shit though

(impossible task)

[proud plover]

thats just pi in execute cs right?

[sour forge]

Arms looks juiced next season

[gaunt owl]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1JWxdwZdgatptRxtYgavre

ARMS SO JUICED

bring 4 of your buddy

[sour forge]

wtf

[latent moss]

make it execute patchwerk

wait its advanced

[gaunt owl]

i copied the 4 devastation

and made it 4 warrior

or is it 5

i dont even know thats too advanced for me yet

[latent moss]

add 6 warriors and hide one of them

[proud plover]

haste/crit food?

[latent moss]

5 warriors 3 millin

[gaunt owl]

yeah food can change a bit depending on stats

but we are so far in the DR

I don't bother changing it

@latent moss i've been secretly sandbagging Arms with lego usage

wanna see my new numbers ?

[latent moss]

y

[gaunt owl]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gqdFYWGJmDz5NFF2ZndE2B

such a silly mistake

[proud plover]

255? wot

[dull siren]

small 255

[hardy marten]

Were you sending lege in CS windows?

[gaunt owl]

stop you are cheating with BSL each time you put it 5% higher

[dull siren]

??

that's cap

[gaunt owl]

why is it 50% now

[dull siren]

the % i had on smolder

[gaunt owl]

i may or may not have done that

[placid pecan]

when do we use defensive stance in m+?

[smoky kayak]

when you're gonna die without it

maybe a little more often if you wanna make life easier on your healers

[coral crescent]

why s3 bonus is s1 re-do nyi?

[gaunt owl]

i was just checking how much we gain in S3 with lego usage properly

i had the line all wrong

[coral crescent]

OHH

lol ignore me

[placid pecan]

ty

is there a reason we dont take bloodsurge in m+ considering it would give us perma uptime on ignore pain

[proud plover]

perma uptime?

[gloomy mirage]

@visual fern aftershock

[astral yarrow]

👑

[proud plover]

i miss that

i dont miss watching the tanks move it out of it tho

[placid pecan]

like u can use it on cd without worrying about rage

[visual fern]

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[proud plover]

arms ip has a cd

[rare kite]

that's why he said "on cd"

[latent moss]

losing damage

[dire hinge]

in order to afford both Bloodsurge and Ignore Pain on that row, you'd need to take a talent from elsewhere, and those (other) talents are better

[latent moss]

for rage we cant spend

in m+ u can press ip on cd

without bloodsurge

[proud plover]

he said perma uptime

[placid pecan]

lmao u know what i mean i said on cd

[proud plover]

cosmetic ragebar, only use for bsurge is for fob spamming

[placid pecan]

and fair fair

how valuable is hurricane blade storm strength node and does it synergize well with might of the ocean trinket

[proud plover]

soz i missed this reply 🙂

[placid pecan]

npnp

[rare kite]

hurricane very strong talent, it's what makes bladestorm good atm

[proud plover]

hurricane is big for when you run bstorm

[dire hinge]

i wouldn't run bladestorm without it

[proud plover]

^^

[placid pecan]

ok ty should i pop might of the ocean trinket right before bladestorm then?

[rare kite]

yes

[dire hinge]

you can bind it into your Avatar, since they have the same cooldown. Regardless if you run double-bladestorm or not, you'll want to pop Avatar first (when available), so it's one less thing to worry about

[placid pecan]

shudnt u try to use regular bladestorm first since u want to put it on cd faster since its not reduced effectiveness

[rare kite]

no, avatar first

[proud plover]

ava first gives max hurricanee stacks so your actual bstorm refreshes thm and starts with max stacks

[dire hinge]

^ and the second bladestorm is longer duration, so it's more overall damage since it's buffed by Hurricane and lasts longer

[placid pecan]

ohh so u start regular bladestorm near the end of the stacked hurricane from avatar at like 5 seconds after

[dire hinge]

or earlier, yeah, but definitely before the avatar-caused hurricane disappears

[placid pecan]

damn thats sweet tech i didnt think of that

[proud plover]

its like 1-2 globals in between (SD/OP)

[dire hinge]

it's neat, so that you're not slowly stacking hurricane back up from scratch, it just persists it at max value throughout that whole opening window

[proud plover]

charge > tc > (i roar here) > ava (free bstorm) + channel leggo > wb > sd/op > bstorm

[wind flicker]

I wouldnt roar before avatar

Personally

[placid pecan]

unless they die before 16 seconds

[latent moss]

double bladestorm

xd

gl doing tank damage on bosses

[placid pecan]

imagine doing m+ without double bladestorm

[proud plover]

im jugg all the way in m+ unless group comp needs more aoe

[wind flicker]

I've been sending double bladestorm on ptr all day

Way too much fun to not do it

[dire hinge]

does feel good in s1 tier

[latent moss]

everything feels good with s1 tier ngl

big numbers

[proud plover]

whos cooking the double bstorm/mbg/fob build on ptr

[nova marsh]

Double bs is mid

[wind flicker]

Did some juicy numbers today ngl

[rare kite]

it does feel really good in AA and to a lesser extent rlp,nokhud,azurevault

[proud plover]

mmmm aa tree boss

[wind flicker]

Did 700k+ overall today in AA

[hazy flower]

overalls

are w.e

lasher pad

[rare kite]

with aug i assume?

[wind flicker]

Ye

[wind flicker]

Its not

Big numbers make me big happy

xd

[rare kite]

big overalls is a fun lil minigame, for those who push keys it's another story

[wind flicker]

Thats why im enjoying PTR

Its not about pushing, just do big damage

[rare kite]

that's me on live, highest i've done is like a 24 i think. not really tried pushing tbf

if warrior is really really fun in tww i might try pushing

[proud plover]

really fun= code for fotm and busted damage? arms is pretty fun now tbh

[rare kite]

no, as in like legion arms fun almost

just means really fun

[proud plover]

it shits all over fury

[rare kite]

i think it's pretty fun right now as well, however it's not like it shits on all other specs in the game funwise for me. just so happens warrior is the only class that has all 3 specs that i enjoy alot

[proud plover]

yeah best spec in the game is arms warr in execute, feels like being carried to that point tho

[gaunt owl]

lets hope they tone down the execute niche in TWW

and give back more dmg outside

it shouldnt be 40% more dmg because Execute start

[proud plover]

no just allow that execute feel+damage for a bigger margin of the fight and i dont mean via condem

im hopeful for slayer/unhinged intractions

[visual fern]

Mmmm, personally somewhat disagree

My ideal version of arms would be somewhat the opposite of what it is now

Strong bursty pockets of damage pre execute

Then a flatine of like 40% (or w.e ) more dps in execute

[proud plover]

legion execute

[sour forge]

So fury pre execute

Then arms respec in execute

[gaunt owl]

sounds like Demolish

[visual fern]

Mmm, legion warrior was close

Yeah

Never played it though

[gaunt owl]

you never played legion ?

remove this man

[visual fern]

Not warrior

In legion

[proud plover]

rip

[visual fern]

I was a dh zoomer cuz all my other alts got shit legos

[gaunt owl]

not even as an alt during the greatest iteration ever

[visual fern]

What could I do man

I made 13 characters

2 rogues

They ALL

LITERALLY ALL

Got prydaz + sephuz + generic class lego

As their first 3

[rare kite]

[visual fern]

And dh generic was the most playable of the classes I had

[gaunt owl]

i got so blessed with lego drop back then

[proud plover]

prydaz was good

[visual fern]

Not at legion start it wasn't

Nor was sephuz

[rare kite]

did you enjoy the nighthold rotation? press chaos strike

[visual fern]

I cooked the NH rotation

[dire hinge]

it's okay, i was a DK during legion and I didn't get my legendary for the first like six or seven weeks until eventually pulling it off of a yellow goat in stormheim

[visual fern]

Chaos cleave was all my tech

https://www.twitch.tv/qt_garm/clip/InspiringSullenPepperoniWow?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time

[gaunt owl]

look at him flexing his moves

you missing the cam shake like Fragnance

[visual fern]

That specific moment

[gaunt owl]

so you get motion sickness after 30 seconds

[visual fern]

My pizza was at the door of my 4floor walkup apartment building in manhattan

The guy said if you don't come down to take this I'm leaving

Considering ending it

"Nah I'm not cringe"

Vengefuled back on

[gaunt owl]

so the pizza was cold ? 😄

[visual fern]

Yeah

We didn't even kill it that pull

Not worth

[dire hinge]

haha

[visual fern]

I had to walk to the store after raid and pick it up

[proper moth]

war within isnt in alpha/closed beta yet right?

[rare kite]

Not yet, alpha prob very soon

[snow flame]

https://tenor.com/view/futurenostlgia-laughing-gif-7903446801176097213

[verbal marten]

anyone know any good streamers to watch for fyrakk as arms?

[thorn tulip]

in aoe do you prio overpower even at 2 stacks of mortal strike

[dire hinge]

you'd send Mortal Strike if you have Sweeping Strikes, two Martial Prowess buffs, and there is less than 8 targets

[thorn tulip]

preciate it

[dire hinge]

of course!

[gaunt owl]

sorry i dont stream

[weak wave]

Can anyone please tell the spell ID of the Consumed by Rage buff?

[halcyon breach]

I'd check in Fight Club

Link in #mop-discussion pins if you're not in there

[weak wave]

thanks

[wary raft]

425415

[gaunt owl]

Daily reminder that Parry still exists in the game to give it textures.

[weak wave]

Thanks!

[wary raft]

np 🙂 for any other fury sod needs I try to answer people in #vanilla-discussion but fight club is a much much better resource

[proud plover]

i vote we bring back spell resists to make this fair

[ornate eagle]

Imagine the satisfaction

"it resisted my fullmoon I cba"

[proud plover]

haha'

[ornate eagle]

"it resisted taunt, guess we wipe now"

[proud plover]

taunt resisted, wait 5 sunders please

[gaunt owl]

that would be hilarious

having your cotank die because of that

i demand equality !

[frigid lava]

Does rogue have counter for afflix?

[halcyon breach]

For incorp? Yes

They can blind

[gaunt owl]

i'm jealous of their CC potential

[halcyon breach]

Maybe in TWW

[gaunt owl]

in WaWi

[halcyon breach]

twawi

[gaunt owl]

its easier to say it out loud

sound like a voodoo curse casting

[halcyon breach]

https://tenor.com/view/scooby-doo-witch-doctor-mano-tiki-tia-gif-15319797

[astral yarrow]

Voodoo upon you

[frigid lava]

hoooo... finally

not much... but it was my goal :0

[gaunt owl]

Its not a nice round number

Im triggered

[latent moss]

hi triggered

[vestal smelt]

Any word on MBG being fixed? Do they even know it is broken?

[latent moss]

fixed

[vestal smelt]

Wait really??

OMG it's fixed that's amazing

[mighty prawn]

this community is great 🙂

[vestal smelt]

Ok now the question is, where is a build that uses MBG and Cleave that I can test for next season?

[mighty prawn]

any tips on keybinding for arms?

what ilvl should I be to run 18 keys?

[vestal smelt]

Depends on how good you are. I was holding my own at 455-460 in 18s but if you're new you might struggle maybe?

[gaunt owl]

unethical gaming

gonna call the police for padding

[vestal smelt]

Rather unethical gaming and actually playing the game lmao. This week is another no warrior invite week lol

[halcyon breach]

Often pressed abilities should be on keys you can comfortably use without strain, while trying to do the same with less often pressed binds

What's most comfortable for you is personal, so can't really give many specific bind recommendations

[mighty prawn]

don't get invited with 470 and fyralath

[quasi torrent]

Rotational stuff should also be easy to press while moving

[quasi torrent]

How tf are you 470 with fyralath lol

[vestal smelt]

These are my binds. The weird bracket ones are mouse binds

[quasi torrent]

bro HATES shift

not a fan of Z for reflect

[vestal smelt]

What did you want me to do? Invent more keybinds for warrior?

[quasi torrent]

u press that shit a lot

[boreal quartz]

3 for ms is correct

[vestal smelt]

Z is very easy to press fym?

[quasi torrent]

how is z easy to press

[vestal smelt]

??

[boreal quartz]

Qwertz

[halcyon breach]

Z is like hamstring for me

[boreal quartz]

We are the issue

[vestal smelt]

Just drop your finger from A to Z

[woven wasp]

yeah youre not winning this one anda

[boreal quartz]

Anda has a diff keyboard he is right

[gaunt owl]

he got an Qwerty keyboard

[boreal quartz]

Your Y equivalent is a shit keybind

[boreal quartz]

Qwertz*

[quasi torrent]

i know phil

[gaunt owl]

i do have a Qwertz

[quasi torrent]

That bind is still not it with a healthy hand posture

[gaunt owl]

but look at his keybinds

[mighty prawn]

these look great

[vestal smelt]

How often do you think I'm pressing spell reflect lmfao

[gaunt owl]

his Z is next to X

[boreal quartz]

Whack take

Y is fine

[quasi torrent]

roughly every 30s

u press ref yep

[halcyon breach]

SR is def a very oft used ability

And underutilised by many

[boreal quartz]

My SR is on Y

[quasi torrent]

SR is peak on mouse

[vestal smelt]

And dropping my finger one key down from A to Z is bad for hand posture?

[gaunt owl]

look at my layout he got the Z where i got my Y

[quasi torrent]

ok and

not listening

also clean ur keyboard

[gaunt owl]

weird phone

[boreal quartz]

lemme grab my keybinds

they are objectively turbocorrect

[gaunt owl]

show us your keyboard i'm sure you got gunk since 2018

[quasi torrent]

shift+7 peak bind

[quasi torrent]

Im not home m8

ill be soon i can...

[vestal smelt]

That is the most reddit mod comment I have seen all day lmao

[quasi torrent]

?

[gaunt owl]

CLEAN DAY IS SUNDAY

anyway

[quasi torrent]

Clean day is no day, live the filth

[quasi torrent]

Q empty

[vestal smelt]

I posted keybinds for someone asking for tips and then I get harassed because Z is apparently hard to press and then it pivots to ClEaN YouU KeyBoRds

[boreal quartz]

nf stays keybind 😮‍💨

[raven ivy]

worst keybinds

[boreal quartz]

ye

would be cleave

[quasi torrent]

? harassed

[raven ivy]

1-5 are damage stuffs

[quasi torrent]

do you know what that means

[raven ivy]

Q is mortal strike

E is overpower

clearly

[quasi torrent]

true.

[halcyon breach]

E is currently slam..

[gaunt owl]

who the fuck is that guy !

[quasi torrent]

same...

[raven ivy]

Remove slam hello

[vestal smelt]

Holy fuck you are actually an uhm achstually guy lmfaoooo

[halcyon breach]

yeah slam is getting gutted next patch

[gaunt owl]

put Tclap in his place

[halcyon breach]

never binding it again

[quasi torrent]

What is up with you

[raven ivy]

#showtooltip Bladestorm
/cast Slam

its gone

[quasi torrent]

Bro gets offended over my dislike and then types this

get a grip

[boreal quartz]

bro rememeber
/cast ignore pain
/cast overpower

god macro

[raven ivy]

best macro

I just have everything bound together

in one macro

On cooldown, uses next ability

[vestal smelt]

Didn't get offended. You got offended when I laughed because you speak like peak reddit mod

[raven ivy]

why is my thunder clap not going off

[quasi torrent]

???

u need aid my guy

[raven ivy]

my guy has Z bound?

[halcyon breach]

nvm

Z is my gateway bind

Pressed once every blue moon

[quasi torrent]

Stop harassing him!!!!

Fuck /!!!!!

[boreal quartz]

love fury

great spec

[gaunt owl]

full of emptiness

[boreal quartz]

leap used to be Q but thats demonic

[halcyon breach]

M4 for leap

[boreal quartz]

so its just a dh layout rn

[raven ivy]

Q for leap what the HELL

Leap is Shift+G

[boreal quartz]

i fixed it

[raven ivy]

clearly

[boreal quartz]

shift c

now

[raven ivy]

G for going on them

[quasi torrent]

Nooo not SHIFT

[boreal quartz]

that used to be my fuckin uh bitter immunity

[raven ivy]

I love me some shift macros

[boreal quartz]

but i didnt use it once entire expansion

[raven ivy]

I got ctrl binds too lmao

Sweeping strikes is ctrl+4

[halcyon breach]

Shift control and alt binds are all based

[boreal quartz]

control2 rally goated

[halcyon breach]

but alt binds for often used abilities is a bit demon

[raven ivy]

alt binds hurts my thumbs

[boreal quartz]

any shift Y bshouts

[halcyon breach]

Control + N

[raven ivy]

I click it

[halcyon breach]

yeah I bet you click a lot of your buttons you freak

sorry too far

[raven ivy]

My UI is mad fucked up too

so many empty slots

[misty iron]

r8 and h8

[raven ivy]

goated UI tbh

[halcyon breach]

I don't like macro names on the binds

Looks way too cluttered

not like I look at them while pressing

[gaunt owl]

pass

[raven ivy]

yeah its ass

[boreal quartz]

right bar beends to be moved

[dull siren]

what is the z'd doin there

[misty iron]

some of them are useful to me like differentiating between pot/no pot swifty macro or focus/mouseover kick

[raven ivy]

the fuck

[gaunt owl]

thats the freedom keyboard

[misty iron]

but a lot of them i just started naming and stopped naming later

[misty iron]

where will i move it
i just mapped it to mouse buttons and made the same shape

[boreal quartz]

is your smolderon macro not keybound

[misty iron]

i just replace the focus macro with it when i need it

[misty iron]

blizz keeps putting spells on my bars without my consent

[raven ivy]

I dont even want these spells

[frigid lava]

my weird stuffs

[raven ivy]

z binds smh

[dull siren]

z bind is good

[boreal quartz]

uncensor ur actionbar

[frigid lava]

some random macros and mounts

[raven ivy]

we want to see them

[frigid lava]

well I was mounted :0

[misty iron]

name checks out

[quaint otter]

Imagine not having charge bind to 1

[gaunt ginkgo]

Here, have whatever the hell these keybinds are xD

The roar/WW/avatar (ctrl +3/4/5) are there just 'cause they love to re-drop onto my bar and I can't be assed fixing them

[halcyon breach]

I too also just place actionbars at random

[gaunt owl]

but why F5 for MS ?

you good bro ?

[gaunt ginkgo]

The only one that ever is visible is the one with MS and OP

mmo mouse, it's the first button on it

[raven ivy]

why the two stance bars lmao

[gaunt ginkgo]

One is the bar itself that shows which I'm in, the other is the keybind/macro that swaps between. Never see it anyhow

Is what it normally looks like. Real question is, why the fuck do I show my potions so many times

[hazy flower]

[gaunt ginkgo]

There was some logic to it initially when I did it, but hell if I remember at this point what it is though

[olive nest]

Sick name btw

LoG fan?

[raven ivy]

Yeah

Wanted a chad name

[olive nest]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-rock-rock-and-roll-head-bang-rock-star-gif-15812025

Headbangers gang

lets gooo

[raven ivy]

That was easy to pronounce and Afro was taken kek

[hazy flower]

love

mechanic

[final dove]

Arms homies which trinkets we chasing for S4

pls dont say anvil

😂

[snow flame]

Icon

And puzzle box probably

[final dove]

what about for m+? or is it the same

doesnt icon only work if other people are running it though?

[snow flame]

Probably the same although blizz is likely to nerf stuff. A lot of specs will be wearing icon because it’s that strong

[latent moss]

icon signet is bis

on 5 min

[latent moss]

1500 secondary

stat stick

it's over budget as fuck

[ornate eagle]

Yeah it'll be nerfed soon dw

It's like 100% over budget

It currently has the same about of stat gain as the proc from black dragonscale

Except scale is a proc and not 100% uptime

[hazy flower]

I mean ember is one of the highest (or like very high at least) simming trinkets

rn

and this not only has more secondary stat it ALSO has additional stat proc xd

its insane

[frigid lava]

Hnnng... TotT SR feels so good

first pull

[timber lynx]

my fav dungeon for that reason

It feels awesome

[frigid lava]

mindbender... with one SR success

[brisk root]

Arms looks good next season

Maybe finally get to see us in S tier

[rare kite]

shh stop talking about it

[gaunt owl]

its fake

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mnWDK11sq5MYkDDX4Cz5Ww

look at this number

thats how much we do

[sharp wyvern]

404 dmg not found

[reef mauve]

That looks like a more realistic number

[sharp wyvern]

fuck of dont tell me we gonna need those rings

also how does arms do fire dmg ?

leggo is shadowflame dmg

[boreal quartz]

Shadowflame is shadow + fire

Same way holystrike is holy + phys

Or frost fire etc

[sharp wyvern]

but its a seperate dmg type

[boreal quartz]

No

It's a mix of both

[reef mauve]

It's in the name

Season one we had a frost fire belt to trigger the ring

[teal fossil]

Holy strike is so op

Just need either monk or dh

[reef mauve]

Imagine if it double dipped

[dull siren]

xdd

the people who know DESPAIR

[gaunt owl]

so warrior need physphys dmg

die raidbuff die

[rare kite]

raidbuffs so goddamn pad, so stupid requiring 2 paladins for example

bad*

[boreal quartz]

Ret one kinda mid

[rare kite]

ye but still, needing to have 2 of 1 class to bring their raidbuffs is pretty crazy

[gaunt owl]

without it Ret would have never seen the light in this raid and previous one

dont count after the buff

it came so late anyway

[latent moss]

ret needed something unique

otherwise theres no reason to bring one

and its the only pala dps

the despair of playing ret this expac

apart from one week in 10.0.7 and current ret

[gaunt owl]

if you remove raidbuff

imagine how many rogues would have been stacked this season

[halcyon breach]

Yeah I think we could use a buff

[wispy tiger]

Nah bro just bop the tank on CD I promise nothing bad will happen trustmebro it's meta

[gloomy summit]

Ret needed something unique

(They gave it to all paladins so it didn’t help)

[manic stirrup]

if something does enough damage it will be brought

you have a couple free spots in every raid comp even if you want every single raid buff possible

[astral yarrow]

but then fight suddenly requires 2 dks to make adds not a nightmare and now you are down to 1-2 open raid spots

[thorn tulip]

how do u use bladestorm in st, same as aoe?

[dire hinge]

If you have it taken, yes. The Hurricane window it provides makes it worthwhile

[manic stirrup]

true but bdk is so consistently good for prog

so its usually not a super big issue

for your total slots

[strange perch]

Did arms get a buff? I feel like it’s doing better than fury all of a sudden

[reef mauve]

It's been better imo

[hexed canopy]

Im about to try and get nyalotha tmog, ive heard you need cloak for the last to bosses, anyone know if I get the back in rank 1 if thats enough or it has to be higher rank to use in raid for the specific bosses?

[proud plover]

pretty sure r1 cloak is fine for heroic but mythic needs some serious dps checks currently - there are vids of arcane mage pumping them but as for warrior it be a case of go and find out

[final dove]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[gaunt owl]

better Fyralath animation

[reef glade]

[misty iron]

Demolish animation leaked

[gaunt owl]

legit would look dope

really trying to Demolish this dummy target

[sharp wyvern]

looks like your shopping a tree

[nocturne skiff]

Grats on yellow love

[halcyon breach]

[nocturne skiff]

Love u dear

[empty sluice]

give me garen R animation 😄

[meager prairie]

Wait how in the fuck did the season 1 tier set end up winning

[gaunt owl]

Because Arms Player are the smartest

and dont try to justify the gameplay aspect

SD proc tuning to 11 to only never have realiable juggernaut stack or RNG roulette you 3 SD proc back to back, isnt healthy gameplay

[sharp wyvern]

with S1 tier our MS gonna hit harder than bloodthirst on fury

how are you not happy

[gaunt owl]

Make MS great again

[ebon fern]

Ill translate the "healthy" argument from Bs to English.

I didn't like it.

Ultimately though, there was nothing particularly wrong about extra sudden death procs with added aoe benefit, you just don't like that kind of rng

I don't really dislike s1 set, but it's quite boring

[gaunt owl]

nothing particularly wrong with extra SD proc ?

what about 2 different triggers ?

forcing you to pick Sudden Talent or it doesnt even works

[ebon fern]

That's like, barely an issue

Especially with how early sudden is

[sharp wyvern]

forcing you into a talent you already take how dare they

[gaunt owl]

so

casual player that didnt knew about this

and untalented from it

[sharp wyvern]

still gets procs from tier

just not as many

[gaunt owl]

no you dont

actually

because its coded with spaghetti

[sharp wyvern]

i hate the "casual player" argument cause they dont care about performance anyway they just do what ever they want
as if you argue they do care then they will use the wowhead talent tree

[ebon fern]

Well i mean, the casuals gonna have to pay attention once in a while and actually read a few tooltips

[gaunt owl]

its not written in any tooltips at all

and tooltips are the worst shit ever to describe an ability

and are inconsistent in their wording

all the times

[sharp wyvern]

2set wording makes it sound like it ´triggers it without talent i didnt evn know about it not working

[shadow ibex]

tier should have let SD proc stack

[ebon fern]

That's a good idea actually

At least 2

[shadow ibex]

Very bad feeling to munch stacks cuz they happen too frequent

[sharp wyvern]

another proc that wont use rage yes pls

[ebon fern]

Anyway, it's too late now

[shadow ibex]

You would get that proc anyway

[gaunt owl]

we asked to get 2 stack of SD on PTR

[ebon fern]

Maybe it will come back as a talent eventually, would be nice since base Sudden is kinda worthless for aoe

[shadow ibex]

It's just removing feel bad of getting them during boss can't be hit time

[ebon fern]

On arms

[sharp wyvern]

having it stack twice would lose you 1 execute worth of rage below 35%

multiple times depending on rng

[shadow ibex]

You spam execute sub 35

[gaunt owl]

it would just prevent the overwrite we see

[sharp wyvern]

think about why

[ebon fern]

Honestly, all procs should count as if you spent resources

[gaunt owl]

trying to make us spend rage isnt gonna happen

we just generate too much of it anyway

[sharp wyvern]

we spam execute cause we want a big TOM

[shadow ibex]

Stacking twice wouldn't be a problem sub 35 we spend them insta anyway

[gaunt owl]

no we dont care about TOM size

[shadow ibex]

I mean right now you can get a proc during the execute animation

So idk that's such a dumb thing to say

[gaunt owl]

its AM and TOM problem

[ebon fern]

To be honest though, i like in for the kill way more than ToM

Haste is just nice

[shadow ibex]

It should have worked like killing machine

[sharp wyvern]

your telling me you dont try to get a 50% ToM before fatality is about to hit ?

[ebon fern]

You mean sudden death right?

Stacking to twice

[shadow ibex]

Yes

[ebon fern]

Yea it should

[shadow ibex]

But no one within blizzard has played an arms warrior so these subtle pain points go overheads

[gaunt owl]

without BL or PI you wont get it

and Fatality min/maxing is only really possible on Smoldy and not even worth it

going out of your way to make it bigger instead of have better DPE

[ebon fern]

Honestly, for qol most procs should stack to 2, or if the ability itself has a proc it should have a charge

[sharp wyvern]

smoldy is rng for fatlity

[shadow ibex]

These are the same people who are giving us an attack that roots every 35 seconds

[ebon fern]

To at least 2

[shadow ibex]

Not the brightest bulbs

[ebon fern]

FoF for example should stack to 3

[sharp wyvern]

i hope demolish will at least hit hard as fuck and be the best spec cause of the skillcap

[shadow ibex]

Yes this attack available every CS cast will hit hard surely

[ebon fern]

I'm gonna be honest, i'm not particularly excited about slayer

[shadow ibex]

The idiots took the worst leggo effect to give us instead of treating juggernaut like the trinkets that only decay outside of combat

Never learn the correct lesson is the blizzard way

[sharp wyvern]

worst thing slayer can be is passive dmg

just like mountain thane

arms is gonna be a channel spec tho

[shadow ibex]

It's ok Colossus is the pvp spec they gave us shockwave into storm bolt for better cc than kidney

[sharp wyvern]

?

demolish in pvp sounds awful

[misty iron]

also why is the stormbolt/pummel while BS thing locked behind slayer

or was it a note saying that, not the hero talent

[ebon fern]

Wait, demolish was on which spec?

Colossus?

[sharp wyvern]

collosus

[ebon fern]

Or slayer

[misty iron]

ye

[ebon fern]

Oh yea

[sharp wyvern]

slayer is bladestorm

[ebon fern]

Well i wasn't particularly impressed with either

[shadow ibex]

You can pair every cast with a shockwave that lasts longer with talent and we have bolt for like 7 sec stun

[ebon fern]

If you cannot move, it will be awful

[shadow ibex]

If you miss it's probably skill issue

[ebon fern]

Stationary channels as melee feel really bad

[sharp wyvern]

at least you can cancel

[shadow ibex]

Which is why they have the shockwave node

Read talent trees yo

[gaunt owl]

you are still on your insane rant about Colossus being PVP

[sharp wyvern]

i dont read stun talents

[gaunt owl]

when you wont hit anybody decent with it

[sharp wyvern]

im a PVEer

[shadow ibex]

There's a node in the same tree to turn shockwave into aoe kidney

[gaunt owl]

DR is a thing and you gonna get disarmed all the time

[shadow ibex]

Gotta read

Gotta read shockwave and storm bolt

[sharp wyvern]

so they gonna trinket out of it

[shadow ibex]

Then they get bolted

It's like someone saw MoP season 1 warrior and thought how can I make this more broken

[strange perch]

they give us back old second wind

[gaunt owl]

lesser version of second wind

its gonna proc so little you dont pick it

[sharp wyvern]

we dont know if demolish is gonna do good dmg yet

[gaunt owl]

just becasue of extra mobility and more bladestorm in Slayer tree

you gonna pick that one for PVP

[sharp wyvern]

do you think that passive BS proc will remove roots ?

[gaunt owl]

thats the thing it could do

but you have charge that remove roots

and remove root with charge is broken

this mean that drood wont be as annoying anymore

[sharp wyvern]

good fuck em

[shadow ibex]

You won't

Not as long as Colossus has the shockwave talent

You won't be picking anything but col in arena as long as it has access to the shockwave talent

[gaunt owl]

you dont give a fuck about extra stun duration

[shadow ibex]

Please

Shhh

[gaunt owl]

you are overvaluing it so much

its insane

[strange perch]

isnt there a node on shockwave that turns it into a knockup lmao

[gaunt owl]

DR is a thing

[shadow ibex]

I'm really not sure you're aware how long shockwave into bolt is

No shit they DR that's why you use the longer one first

We did the same shit in MoP and were gods in s1 because you could force a trinket every 30 seconds and they only got one trinket so

Just read tooltips man

[gaunt owl]

4 seconds shockwave

you cna do the same with stormbolt ?

[shadow ibex]

Into a storm bolt that will always like up with it

[gaunt owl]

what you on about ?

[shadow ibex]

Because that's a kidney on a warrior

[gaunt owl]

but no

[shadow ibex]

?????

No it is

That's the thing

[gaunt owl]

so you compare

2 ability that stun

against 1

because they got same duration

if you stack the stun duration

[shadow ibex]

You realize rogues currently multi cheap shot right

It doesn't matter if it's DRs, it's still upwards of 6 seconds of CC that always lines up and has a shorter cool down than the enemy trinket

[gaunt owl]

so now you are guessing it will line up

like PVP is hitting some target dummy

[shadow ibex]

Unless they make shockwave cool down 90 seconds

[gaunt owl]

nothing happen for 30 seconds

and suddenly you end the game

[shadow ibex]

You know if I stun you, you can't move out of the shockwave right?

Cuz you're stunned

[gaunt owl]

so your teammates wont heal you or disarm the warrior ?

priest grip

stuff like this dont exists anymore ?=

[shadow ibex]

That's a fine trade those are longer CDs than either stun

That's a great trade lol

[gaunt owl]

so we have 0 idea about what the class and spec tree rework looks like

[shadow ibex]

Or fuckin bolt the healer and shockwave kill target for as long and cross cc a team on your own

[gaunt owl]

but you already know how we gonna be busting some ass in Colossus PVP

[sharp wyvern]

i feel like you wont do even close to the dmg a slayer would do passively if you dont constantly land your demolish

[shadow ibex]

Oh yea there's no way the shockwave talent is full duration in pvp

They will probably nerf that node specifically for pvp because it gives you a kidney shot

[gaunt owl]

so Demolish only make you immune to Stun and knockback

[strange perch]

ITS NOT KIDNEY MAN

[gaunt owl]

but you can still get blinded / poly / cycloned / disarmed

[shadow ibex]

Well it's better than kidney it's aoe

[gaunt owl]

so they just need to wait for you to use it everytime

and make you look like a fool

[shadow ibex]

The cyclone cast would be as long as the channel

[gaunt owl]

current Warrior Disarm is 45seconds CD

[shadow ibex]

So probably not

[gaunt owl]

they gonna know your setup like you said you gonna shockwave

so your last big hit will be gone

[shadow ibex]

That's a fine trade then

[gaunt owl]

fine trade ?

[shadow ibex]

Or bolt the caster since you have X2 long as hell stuns

Idk you have to press buttons in pvp paw this isn't new

Fear bolt do whatever you have buttons

[gaunt owl]

its like you assume

the other player wont do shit to you

you gonna get rooted / slowed forever or even kited depending on their comp

[shadow ibex]

They can trinket a shockwave that's a fine trade since one has a long ass CD

Idk man warrior has been like this for years and stay on target

[gaunt owl]

you mean perma kited / cc by any decent Mages ?

[sharp wyvern]

you are also forgetting the 50% of sudden deaths dmg as leech

on slayer

no way slayer is gonna be worse than collosus in pvp

[shadow ibex]

If ur getting owned by mages gotta try using avatar for it's root break

And not mongo BS for DMG

[gaunt owl]

just the amount of pressure Slayer tree has built in

[shadow ibex]

And reflect and bolt and kick

[gaunt owl]

so you break root with Avatar

he roots you again

G fucking G

its not immunity

[shadow ibex]

Roots have CD champ

[gaunt owl]

he has a pet with a root too

[shadow ibex]

Do you think mages have a spell called root? That they can spam

Cuz it seems like you do lol

[sharp wyvern]

slayer can negate it 4 times with charge and BS

the amount of pressure slayer can do is insane

[shadow ibex]

We done fine vs roots for years without charge breaking them

[sharp wyvern]

exactly

now we are even better

[shadow ibex]

With no cc nah

No thanks

[sharp wyvern]

its also about doing dmg in pvp if you dont hit your demolish its over

[olive nest]

Did you guys watch the arena matches at blizzcon?

[gaunt owl]

a 1min30 CD to remove root isnt fine in my book

[olive nest]

echos warrior was not able to be peeled whatsoever

glued to the casters asses

[gaunt owl]

he got babysit with freedom and stuff like this right ?

[shadow ibex]

There was a few warrior in AWC

Freedom in mage meta

Spellsteal

Good idea

[dull siren]

bilzzard caught me

https://i.imgur.com/E4amWJQ.png

[ebon fern]

I guess blizz is a dk

[lucid nest]

Uhm you can check if is the site is safe or is a scam probably is a scam!!!!!

[sharp wyvern]

[olive nest]

[sharp wyvern]

"Bilzzard "

[woven wasp]

dude no way bilizzard got me earlier as well

[latent moss]

thats what happens when u boost ce and mount

[frigid lava]

do yall always get execute x2 + op x2 for MS during execute phase?

I usually get 2 executes in then straight to MS (if available, otherwise OP)

[olive nest]

if you do the prio properly its usually exe > exe > op > ms > repeat

[frigid lava]

it's usually exe > exe > op > ms because ms isn't always available.

[olive nest]

well right?

3 globals between ms always

during execute*

their is also conditions where you would spam Exe

[midnight kite]

Do you always Overpower x2 then MS in AoE with sweeping? The WoWhead rotation says martial prowess x2 > normal MS

[olive nest]

in Aoe Dreadnaught does alot of work

[frigid lava]

I kinda prio MS even during SS to spend rage

[hollow socket]

what are the chances you get legendary on first heroic kill on alt

[turbid plinth]

About 0%

[hollow socket]

wait really

[turbid plinth]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/datamining-fyralath-legendary-drop-rates-bad-luck-protection-values-revealed-337807

Offc if you cleared it on normal for 3 months it’s a different story

[drowsy cobalt]

Depends. If you are a new player its 50/50. If you are mythic raider with 3500rio it can take months /s

[olive nest]

lmao so real

[frigid lava]

I'm about 6 weeks in this season

haven't killed smoldey and tswift this week... tempting

[quaint otter]

[frigid lava]

gtfo lol

[final dove]

hopefully next season arms is fun to play

i mean next expac

[gaunt owl]

it will be

[halcyon breach]

Maybe they'll give us a reasonable rage economy

[sharp wyvern]

they are gonna give us a rework

[gaunt owl]

they have too

both spec cant work with what they showed in the hero tree

first they need to remove any dmg gain from class tree

because thats awful for choice talent

[final dove]

Right now arms plays like dog shite

[sharp wyvern]

what?

[final dove]

mortal strike feels like a wet noodle

[gaunt owl]

CF / Barbaric Training / Sidearm

[sharp wyvern]

s1 set will fix it slightly

[gaunt owl]

are all pretty much set in stone talent t

they need to be gone

[final dove]

Yes but arms still plays like ass

[gaunt owl]

Two Handed Specialisation

why the fuck it even exists ?

[sharp wyvern]

i think arms is pretty nice if you ignore the fatality ToM thing

[gaunt owl]

if you want us to do 5% more dmg give aura buff

[sharp wyvern]

you made it sound like you dont want our talent tree to give dmg at all

[gaunt owl]

there is no point trying to min / max fatality with TOM

[halcyon breach]

This isn't something you consciously play around at all

It either happens or doesn't

[sharp wyvern]

still sucks

[halcyon breach]

It could be a whole lot worse

[gaunt owl]

class tree shouldnt give you % amp dmg

[halcyon breach]

Lets just be happy it only interacts with AP

[sharp wyvern]

so go back to the 5 rows ?

cause there is no middle ground

[halcyon breach]

There is?

[gaunt owl]

remove the amp dmg talent

make it about survivability

[halcyon breach]

Class tree bar the bottom row can be utility or similar

[gaunt owl]

mobility and utility

[halcyon breach]

And have damage be focused in the spec tree

There are classes that have this

[sharp wyvern]

and i realy dont like these calsstrees

where you dont take any notable

[gaunt owl]

we have talent that are more than dead like Titanic Throw

Bitter Immunity is a joke in his state

[halcyon breach]

That's why I said bar the bottom row

[final dove]

Need better baseline talents

[halcyon breach]

Let the top/mid be anything but damage

[gaunt owl]

let's not forget our class tree was so bad

[final dove]

still is bad

tbh

[gaunt owl]

they gave Arms Dstance baseline

because we had too many must take talent

[sharp wyvern]

that was a fury problem too cause rally was below Dstance

also looking at the tree i hate that thunderclap is in there

[gaunt owl]

i'm guessing we gonna get it baseline for every spec actually