fury

[limpid tide]

not really a set number more for ur guy

[keen kindle]

You stop haste when robot says you stop

[limpid tide]

sims made me take less mastery and go more crit recently

[dry hawk]

You have 0 vers?

[limpid tide]

yea

[random shadow]

i had zero verse for along while before my myth weapon gave verse

[warm crag]

very normal

[icy whale]

aaaand i got hc heart with speed

so exactly what we thought happened xd

[compact siren]

I will squash you with a small rock I think

[edgy widget]

it happens when you start pushing high mastery cause of DR

[warm crag]

i am looking at the boys leaks and telling you immediately

[limpid tide]

thoughts on this @edgy widget

[edgy widget]

don't use Reck Pot, it's a stupid trap

[limpid tide]

👍🏼

[edgy widget]

it's like +200 dps in the best of circumstances and -1k if anything goes wrong

it's also generally worse with vantus rune, and players should typically be building for the hardest fight, which is the one they're most likely to vantus

[limpid tide]

for me reck is like 700-800 dps increase in ST

[solar zephyr]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1486613675413475439/screamifyoulovefury.gif

[white portal]

anybody here know of quick import profile for elvui?

that is pretty squared away already?

wanting to convert from stock ui to elvui

[limpid tide]

atrocity ui

might have to twitch prime to him or sum

uses elvui with everything youd need

[young swan]

what do you want it to do

[dry hawk]

Is Elvui still fps hell?

[young swan]

i can log in and give u mine if u want but it doesnt have nameplates or raid frames cause i use different addons for those

[white portal]

dual rtx 5090s, ill be alright lol

[young swan]

or unit frames for that matter

I thought SLI was dead

[dry hawk]

I mean, I have a 3080 OCed

[young swan]

regardless of that tho, wow is much more of a cpu game than gpu

[white portal]

It is for the most part, there are still small advantages

[young swan]

no x3d = no frames

worst part about wow

[warm crag]

depends what you do with it

[white portal]

9950X3D 🙂

[unborn delta]

just vantus mastery instead of vers 🤔

[white portal]

that would be awewsome, thank you

[dry hawk]

I had a very minimal profile of it, this was back in TWW/DF days but I uninstalled it on raszgeth and gained literally 100 fps only installed SUF at the time

[fleet garden]

https://tenor.com/view/scream-woah-gif-8150993

[white portal]

obviously trying to get that clean look that critcake has. I've never messed with elvui and not looking to build it out from scratch either

[warm crag]

well elvui nowadays will make you lag for different reasons than pre midnight

[white portal]

so then what is everybody using?

[warm crag]

doesnt critcake link his ui in his discord

dunno if he still uses parts of aui

[dry hawk]

This is me now

[stiff maple]

I just use unhalted frames now

[white portal]

🔥

[earnest canyon]

They don't even have an sli bridge

[white portal]

They do not 🙂

[lean lava]

idk what i pressing wrong, i have so bad performence on raids. I think i overthink a bit instead of pusth buttons. For example first, i was using to much ranging blow, then i drop it to 5-10 cast per pull, prioritizing Bloodthirst, less prioritize and i cant somehow firgure out what should rotation looks like ;/. I trying to follow maxroll guide but somehow doing only around 80-90% logs ;/ is gaze really that thing?

[limpid tide]

hey were pretty similar

[young swan]

!E1!9I1stnooq4FnCZzl)kpGBKbyMuvcKfB29M3rXrXwf2wUKLHjCy(TVDlhh)mjMAP2lZyKA91V(6hGNHNRNZwIKSHiYWVLHckrIFrtiBIOEB8KEoH8eUO1HWXb0eQGeHxKjz(VU)bbjMMbx7SJNacC)Vsf0SS3j79C2WLsE8AscncfiMLWIjPQ36tamF04pSgxGBm)nAH5CF0B3o)FmS8CM)KR7tR0EzXAIGMi1o8Z6Aw6gEoUkZEorScFAP0pV47)WT9tkoCKTPTMUNZAQ825dqEqp2ghTNYhS8(h6iV6mBdte9L0DYVfsKnSkLaaq99oD8vZPr83xveF(gehjmimFac3Nw3YkpEYOPAJmVEg8(8D7YAlFDfw9etBdTrh9lBL8nDQYd01gzb3)9vvaFsbn0He2TFqfmjTkNCot3Acc)uW25zzZZbMsYLJXJ11m1NvA8JRSPw(6rZYZ5VOHm)i6sk5nAt10tgbEXuBnZjqkXLlccjzqYKZ8PU8GaGXEzwZi7zMAg2Jvvcq4GM43mG02uliafoKvtf01(kZHJvCT5pEVBxEw)Kmt9jEooHSD1i)DkTgzyotZ0em(1c2Bej9zcB7FtejSKGAEqdZhytMMa2)aBy0tQVFwi(QXhzHtoxkbRdNH5dEKKL(zR2luG5zZ52J1mTaByfZxW38zCHjwkn8YI5KGHAz1Y3tppv066IKXZSGWUnvoNZBnDg0LeljJOcPQh9akjTTSG)XaIe3r30SJshwR51xdw41QOMQT1GdAgy)EFEciUCnjagEaeszr2fhaesjBPIh6mnP78fqYiziW5WN15AzDOCyFGZBmXtj5cIAuJYhXp855jYgIvDutvE84NYLrqtApNNEXD5IhVhNykyFG9UJCsj(qfJ3JaozkeT0rfVL(1QXcSNyxmcnpHj3Hz6EJgQRvQwa10wQpQzp9e9K4P(5zT3mqseb0o7lGOAomulaOFysJi7PT37qbUXWapThmjc5(b9Afc4Urs6VK9lgGgSoJ6Ude)I9BCHKiW(zq4ht73bCSnSiMuXdpwaFhGDP8v2ybMUcsswkwW4VhkjKv7su)vOwEahRSntPiN9zsAmWWGb15SOTLjUE4li13xY4jBkQyG)ZQOmaNkMvWcl(HcwPT(XlxtfpZFhocrbE4Kkhylw)(5jVhuuzPIrxv7hblycR5XZdcrD0YuM2TkAsnNzQATYdD0RCZFqXCbe6SBy)N3AmUgbltskgMx333CiGyoSasQGVd(gsc)zorrpArwVCetzrMgxm(yFAVkRkrACIUrXeiYDQgDYxP7ptYEWCaLsCHAT18mgYmlNT1XzMuZIAcV6ySEfdbvMwLNuD2fcPLHKX)xcjDV7eHLyEEgvnZC(xumQQ8nRTN3AUzprPbeDL9(74rethg1)OPzDw)9cSARsER1W06aRNW1)AR5Z1DXq)GDy))czzdX)1TcEkoS4lJRCk6XfROofxPgJwnfkbwgbgOlPNAIl4xbFY1HGF)Y4L03OrnLUXXDdmnUUlGls2DICv9BhkXc7Ihw8xuzxdJucBhaB)eNUK7tIu7kGR(s20f9JI(axedy5C1IBUA1V)5vP)(NNCRK5LSeh8x6tLd8U5gCKdlIEZn3r3rYJK)7p

[white portal]

youre the best my man!

thank you so much

[dry hawk]

[young swan]

just for reference before u import, the bars in the top left are mouseover by default

but it should give you a good baseline to work from

[dry hawk]

Guessing tar frame is bottom right?

[young swan]

yeah

i use unhalted for unit frames

action bar in the bottom left just in case theres a boss with vehicle controls

[white portal]

ah

yeah i like the feel of this

trying to figure out how to even use elvui though - now that I have a base, trying to adjust 🙂 all my keybinds are gone haha

idk what you used to mount up but lol, trying to figure it out haha

[young swan]

oh yeah they dont transpose 1:1

its really annoying

[young swan]

opie

its a blessing

definitely get it

[keen kindle]

God I love opie

[young swan]

its so good

[keen kindle]

I stg I've had it for almost a decade

[clear silo]

if u got luck with proccs as slayer, u wanna pop bladestorm outside of reck?

[limpid tide]

i think that would just fuck ur timings up really bad

but idk

[thick iron]

Why does wowhead say recklessness but lorggs say most people play potential potion

and are combat pots simmable

[chilly fractal]

#updates-midnight message

[chilly fractal]

Yes

[twin pulsar]

Is lorggs logs or

[clear silo]

if u got luck with proccs as slayer, u wanna pop bladestorm outside of reck?

[drifting token]

As long as reck isn't close to coming up also sure

[spare steppe]

God damn nice

[lofty seal]

Is it crazy to craft your 2nd wep with myth crests if you wont be myth raiding anytime soon

[olive wraith]

Do you do keys for myth track?

[graceful mural]

One great part of fury is that I have two big buttons but they are best bundled together into a Beast Mode macro

Idk what Reckless or Avatar is but I have 20 second left till I can go Beast Mode again

[white spire]

This is the most accurate warrior post I've ever read 😆

[graceful mural]

YOU KNOW IT LOL

[dense rivet]

is slayer fury any worth?

[celest delta]

Hello guys, can u pls someone help me how to improve my playstyle in raids? Rn hit 3,2K+ in mythic+ but if i will go start raiding i feel like a shit vs other classis in my group… logs to my ilvl is so trash. I am new as warrior so i am not sure how to progress my self to be better

[graceful rapids]

Post some logs so people can help you more definitively

There’s a log review channel

Use that

[serene cloud]

Joao, I believe that Slayer fury is supposed to be best ST , but the raids all have solid cleave phases. Thane is easier to cleave with, and a bit more survivable, which can help if healers are struggling.

[lofty seal]

Yea but what if i dont trust my luck

[olive wraith]

Crafting 2nd weapon is a huge waste of crests this early

[lofty seal]

So just keep praying to rngjesus

[olive wraith]

Ya

[lofty seal]

Sadge

[olive wraith]

Probably not worth crafting until the crest cap is removed

Not sure the difference between max heroic/myth Oh is anyways

[coral dock]

how close is the recommended skills to use in-game (that highlight recommended ability in blue) to the optimal rotation that i should be using?

i've been on a break since april 2025

[olive wraith]

Not close afaik

[coral dock]

and i'm talking about just normal fights, not waiting to burn CDs or anything like that

[olive wraith]

Doesn’t change my answer

[coral dock]

ok cool, thank you

[sullen dove]

think assist helper should be somewhat decent enough no

obv not perfect but so long as its like telling u to keep bt on cd and execute and stuff and you hit rb last priority but ig havent used it to see

[olive wraith]

It was ass in tww

Can’t imagine it’s improved much

[supple glen]

warrior prio is pretty easy though

i tried a bit at the start and as you said, its tellign you to press bt and rampage. its not the worst

you dont overcap at least

[tiny cove]

Should we craft anything with this weeks spark? Maybe cloak to make it mythy?

[glass shoal]

hey, I have a question about ST slayer rotation. So when I use Recklessness my apex talets will trigger. Do I spam Rampage like 4 times in a row at full rage or do I have to include Bloodbath and worry about rage overflow? thanks

[supple glen]

wowhead shows rotation during cds

[frank dawn]

You should basically always use one gcd between rampages, what that button is will be based on your prio list

usually bloodbath

[glass shoal]

thanks

[static bolt]

how do we sim for keys? dslice? multiple targets + x minutes? or just sim st?

[cinder oasis]

they planning any post race balance changes before we get knee capped in .5?

[olive wraith]

🔮

[cinder oasis]

brb I'll ponder my orb

[frank dawn]

the tuning that went live with this reset was the last announced tuning wave they had said in their post

so no one knows what will happen next, if anything, before the patch

[coarse nest]

Curious what they’ll do with fury for .5

Will they finally make the 5 target damage stand out?

[frank dawn]

yeah I mean, the .5 patch is kind of asshole for us tuning wise at the moment. But the changes are likely all good for the spec, and hopefully the build this week can address some tuning concerns and/or final design tweaks to make it feel better

[supple glen]

https://tenor.com/view/warrior-blizzard-wow-classic-push-hank-hill-gif-27417019

[tiny cove]

Should we craft anything this week?

[earnest field]

When is the .5 patch?

[frank dawn]

not announced yet

[earnest field]

Ahh well lets see if we ger gutted

Think brew is gonna be nerfed bigtime

[frank dawn]

there aren't many class changes in the .5 patch really. We're getting some, mages, hunters. I think everything else is pretty minor

but I might be forgetting something

[earnest field]

Damn

[frank dawn]

but it's more class changes than we got in TWW mid season patches. So I guess that's nice?

[supple glen]

i didnt mind alternatinv rampage / tclap for a few seconds and actually do dmg idk

[quiet geyser]

LMAO, we finally got a few fury logs for paladins and crown

Fury dropped like 12 spots

[frank dawn]

I view the Tclap spam a whole lot like I viewed the RB spam in the final season of TWW. It works for sure, but I understand them wanting to change it and I think it changing will probably make the spec play better

as long as they give some minor amount of fucks for the spec (not guaranteed)

[quiet geyser]

Fury is currently now bottom half for overall dam, and dead last boss dam

[frank dawn]

no tuning needed btw

totally fine btw

blizzard btw

see previous comment about minor fucks given not being guaranteed

[quiet geyser]

Its gonna get even worse as more guilds kill belo and midnight falls...

[coarse nest]

Whatever you do don’t look at warrior on the last 3 bosses

[quiet geyser]

Arms is actually holding steady

[olive wraith]

Clap is a little better cause it’s only really in cooldowns

[quiet geyser]

But honestly feel like most warriors have just fully transitioned to arms full time

Knowing fury is down in the dumps

[gilded belfry]

Whats best embellish for 2nd craft wrist fury?

[quiet geyser]

Arcanoweave

[fiery hare]

i have to press rend as arms so im not playing it :<

[quiet geyser]

Furys gonna need massive buffs, its down quite bad

Will need god for .5

[frank dawn]

yeah like the spec is not good right now

and as it stands today .5 is nerfing us basically across the board and both heroes in various ways

there's time for tuning and blah blah blah

but still

lol

[olive wraith]

Slayer takes a small st nerf. Thane loses a bunch of aoe

[quiet geyser]

Small?

Its like 6-8% lol

[frank dawn]

yeah that's not really small imo

[olive wraith]

Offset slightly by bs buff

[quiet geyser]

Thats massive considering its already not great in st as is

[frank dawn]

I guess the BS buff could make it more like a 5-6% nerf, but considering we kinda suck ass at that already

oof

[quiet geyser]

The bs buff will give 1.x% st dmg.

[olive wraith]

Ya I’m not arguing we’re good at st

[west parcel]

seeing this hurts my soul

how is this the rank 1 parse on crown

[frank dawn]

[west parcel]

we're near the tanks guys

[frank dawn]

FURY IS TOTALLY FINE GUYS

NO TUNING NEEDED

[west parcel]

the 4% parse demon hunter is gapping him

how is that possible

[sudden tusk]

should have played a real spec (ranged) goobus

[rare garnet]

People pad. Who cares.

[west parcel]

even if we don't pad on fury our boss dam is so dogshit

[sudden tusk]

im prob gonna go arms on that fight

theres so much garbage pad in the raid man

time to boss dam it up

[rare garnet]

Makes sense it’s an arms tier only true believers play fury

[sleek parrot]

got puzzle in vault, how does it feel to play with it, is it annoying? and when do you use it, before cds or whenever it's up and do I hold cds waiting for it if its coming soon?

[unkempt oasis]

I love standing to cast while playing fury.

[manic stump]

What is the maximum mythtrack crests you can have this week

[quiet geyser]

Which you think would make fury look good lmao. Well i guess it did for the first few bosses

[manic stump]

If you havents sendt any

[sudden tusk]

well

we still dont have the burst of MM or dev dh

so like there is pad but it just dissapears

[coarse nest]

We don’t even have the raid buffs yet

Just wait

We’re so cooked

Literally marinating right now

[tight roost]

Has anyone got some settings to avoid having so much nameplate overlap? Its getting a bit tricky in keys on big pulls to keep track of interrupts

[vestal root]

suffering

[lunar swan]

Hows Plume simming for yall? My 6/6 champ saptor claw is simming higher for aoe somehow. Maybe haste is valued more at my mastery lvl? Idk kinda crazy

[vestal root]

is plume simming its forms properly?

[sudden tusk]

@warm crag infurnas gaming nightshift

[undone flower]

Become enlightened boss dmg chad

At least fury will finally go down in overall rankings if it’s a public log

[warm crag]

didnt abrahams get dqd

also i hit eternus so i will not be touching the game for a bit

[sudden tusk]

idk they were doin

some weird shit ho

[vestal root]

deadlock gamers here too nice

luckily i suck at it

[fading bane]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/eDVrb8LPBq7BMTFiQdZNZx

The warrior is officially dead

gg, go next tier

[remote bobcat]

dont post ranged character sim ew

[quiet geyser]

Ur late to the chat. It already did

Fury dropped like 12 or 13 spots

[junior oyster]

When do the doomers reroll and leave the server to the true believers?

[olive wraith]

Never

There will always be doom

[heavy ether]

FML why are all of you based stoic warrior chads man, couldn't some of you be more whiny and get us some buffs or something?

[tiny cove]

Its just the people that saw the 20% and switched to warrior that are crying it feels like

[olive wraith]

People do whine

All the time lol

[junior oyster]

They just haunt the halls and whinge?

[young swan]

come here on a patch day and your perspective will shift dramatically

[unkempt oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/its-time-shut-this-down-over-done-finished-gif-15012540

[vestal root]

i have to play warrior because no other class plays like warrior what do i do

[junior oyster]

keep playing warrior i guess

[wispy plaza]

Play Arms

[full moon]

Executioner's Wrath, do I want to min max this, like even with sudden death procs.

[vestal root]

keep suffering

[vestal root]

i like both specs kinda so im fine

[olive wraith]

Pretend it doesn’t exist

[remote bobcat]

we are the ones that stay. we are honorable. we are men and women, not boys and girls. We dont cry and whine, we talk think and provide feedback.

[unkempt oasis]

Not very warrior like of you.

[olive wraith]

Good one

[vestal root]

its hard for me to drop warrior i like you all skyhold idiots too much

[remote bobcat]

this only includes CE warriors (just to spite people like @olive wraith who has a shit schedule)

[olive wraith]

Kek

[remote bobcat]

you've been here for 4 days, relax

[warm crag]

there will be no cutting edge dps warriors this season

[sudden tusk]

me

[remote bobcat]

cutting edge chimaerus

🗣️ 🔥 💯

[warm crag]

Hoooly

[undone flower]

[vestal root]

i was here before but i left when i didnt play wow for somet ime

[vestal root]

gz

[remote bobcat]

we all ahve it, its worthless

[vestal root]

haha yeah we all have it yep....

[remote bobcat]

so you did quit warrior huh

[olive wraith]

I’m not even subbed rn

[junior oyster]

That's poor self esteem to think just because you've got it it's worthless

[olive wraith]

I just lurk

[junior oyster]

When did you first stop loving yourself?

[undone flower]

yes

do you have the unemployed version

[vestal root]

i was a warrior irl

[sullen dove]

bruh ts took like 20 minutes of effort

[remote bobcat]

my sub-par guild got it in 7 pulls. it's a joke of an achievement.

[valid relic]

Is there some actual new patch notes or are people just dooming bc of logs?

[undone flower]

if you had a work in EU, you NEVER had a chance

[vestal root]

the ptr 0.5

[remote bobcat]

True^

it was closed by 1pm or smth

[sullen dove]

if you worked from 5 am in eu*

[valid relic]

Ty, is there a post on the actual changes somewhere? Couldn’t find any

[sullen dove]

just wake up in the morning early idk

[undone flower]

we had maintenance until 7

[sullen dove]

but yea coulda lasted longer

[vestal root]

updates channel

[valid relic]

Ty king

[remote bobcat]

yea because people go out of their way to do that before doing everything that was in larias list

[undone flower]

6-7am extended maintenance

[sullen dove]

larias list sob emoji

"do preys"

[remote bobcat]

dude larias list was so shit

im so glad i did my own research

[sullen dove]

i mean its fine for pre season stuff

but idk dont think matters much past like the moment the raid releases

other than general knowledge of dont waste crests on stupid shit

[remote bobcat]

correct

[sullen dove]

was the 4k kills game wide or region wide dont remember

presumably region right

[vestal root]

saays in yxour region no?

[sullen dove]

but i would think having half a day to see NA's slots fill up to 2000 instantly should have given some small hint as to the fact that this boss is both easy and shit and will probably be filled pretty fast

psure was even a wowhead post about it before eu reset went up

[remote bobcat]

the wowhead post saying "NA hall of fame delve closed" indicates region based but when you went into the delve at that point, you'd find the hall of fame to be gone

[sullen dove]

if u were like at work the moment servers came up then gg

[remote bobcat]

in eu

[sullen dove]

yea maybe the post was late i think eu closed a few hours after NA

[remote bobcat]

swordish

[sullen dove]

ik my guildies said "oh didnt think it would cap to 4000 overnight"

and it ended at like 4 am est i think

[remote bobcat]

NA posts of that thing being easy came up while EU slept

then eu wakes up for work

no time for delve boss

[sullen dove]

just do it at work

[remote bobcat]

just be unemployed

💯

[vestal root]

just dont go to work call in sick

whats even best way of leveling rn

dungeon spam?

[remote bobcat]

that one delve

[vestal root]

which 1

[remote bobcat]

shadow point smth

wait

[vestal root]

what level do you spam it on

[remote bobcat]

Shadowguard point

tier 1

[vestal root]

yeh i gotcha

ok cool thanks ill try

[remote bobcat]

u only do the big elites

run in kill every elite and small mbos in 30seconds

out andb ack in

there are a lot of yt videos on it

[vestal root]

without boss?

[remote bobcat]

Correct

dont finish it

[vestal root]

intredasting

[remote bobcat]

bruh just watch the video

on it

[vestal root]

👍

[velvet loom]

is dungeon slice working for sims on warrior or is it best to use 5-10 boss/2-3mins?

[unborn delta]

Slice bad

[velvet loom]

whats the best settings to sim for M+ with?

[dense elbow]

Depends on what you want to know

ST sim, 4min, no raid buffs (only what you bring) helps you get a decent grasp on prio dam performance

Personally I found 4min 5t to be a decent benchmark point as well.

If you want to know burst dps, sim for that. Mass AoE sim for that.

You sim for what scenario you want an answer for. M+ as a whole is simply too variable for a "1 sim does all"

[olive wraith]

Many if us are just lazy so we do a 1t sim and call it

[dense elbow]

If you dont want to give it 100%, just go for the 1t and 5t, and you will find yourself doing more than fine

[honest trail]

I only sim 8T 1min

& call it

Cause 1T & 5T will be pretty much the same as raid

As we're hard/soft 5T capped

I just want higher count

[vestal root]

i do that pretty much cos im lazy

dungeon slice is weird af

hectic add cleave is a thing tho

[dense elbow]

True, tho in the end you just kinda know what works and what you want dont even need to sim, it just feels right and numbers go up

[vestal root]

im shit anyways

[dense elbow]

Arent we all

[vestal root]

nah

a lot of you guys here downplay yourselves

[remote bobcat]

im shit ah uhdk but holy fuck im goated on warr

[dense elbow]

If you aint #1, you are noone

[vestal root]

i still do better on ret pala which was my old main back then

brainlet

[vestal root]

im john no-one

[remote bobcat]

disgusting

[dense elbow]

Call me Rezo, brother of Neo

[marsh knoll]

anything more difficult than BM PL and I am cooked

[oblique thistle]

Good thing bm is good rn

[marsh knoll]

Yeah, cba leveling another toon though

[oblique thistle]

So true

[dense elbow]

Dont want to farm 50 keys, to get it barely operational? Casual

[fleet garden]

Doing bees till 81 and then the delve quest handins at 88.5 saves a lot of time

[brittle crow]

i got hit in the twitter ban wave

what do i do now

i miss my wife

[left peak]

How much better is arms atm?

[dim spindle]

She says hi

And not to worry

I joined the "got gaze in heroic weekly cache" club. Seems like a ton of people got that 1 specific item

Hmm

[brittle crow]

i ignored it for tier legs

[dim spindle]

Not that I'm complaining

[keen kindle]

I got the dawnsong

If I get alnseer or plume on my rogue I'm gonna flip

[dim spindle]

I'm seriously considering crafting a darkmoon deck hunt next week. Sim trap or worth?

Bloodmallet shows it as pretty up there and I'm not planning on mythic raid

or even much heroic raid (unfortunately)

And I'm not sure how reliable bloodmallet is these days. 274ish ilvl btw

Someone talk me down before I make a terrible mistake

[compact knot]

doesnt it count as a embellishment

thats like already a massive reason to not craft it

because you lose a embellishment for a trinket that is equal to shit you could just get in dungeons or heroic raid

well probably better because its 285 but i dont think you craft that trinket

you probably lose dps by spending 80 crests since you need to remove a embellishment

[quartz knot]

is there a spell reflect addon that functions as a weakaura to tell you when to use the spell when targeted by enemy

[winter shoal]

bloodmallet is just running a sim on a template character instead of your own character; the most accurate thing would be to just sim your own character instead

[normal shuttle]

no but plater jundies profile colors the cast purple if you can reflect

[dim spindle]

Does it? Well consider me talked down

ty for saving me from a very poor life choice

Too late for the rest of them, though

Tooltip doesn't say anything about augmentation other than the "effect is augmented by sigil: hunt"

[odd crater]

Sigil: Hunt is an embellishment

[dim spindle]

Yar, but does darkmoon deck count as embellish by itself?

[odd crater]

No idea. What does the screen look like when you go to craft it/place an order for it?

[dim spindle]

Or am I a victim of fake news

Not logged in, checking wowhead

Doesn't appear to be flagged as an embel

[odd crater]

Wait just look at the time and does it say “Embellished (2)”

[silk wharf]

If you look it up actually in game at the crafting table it lists it as counting for your 2 embellishments.

[dim spindle]

Ok real news then

tyvm

Sorry I doubted you Khazix. I'll never do it again

[compact knot]

i do lie often

so

its always on accident

[smoky vale]

big liar

@compact knot

[coarse nest]

[slim coral]

I lie for fun

[compact knot]

respect

[dim spindle]

I logged in and yep it sure does say it on the tooltip, clear as day. misled by Wowhead yet again

[slim coral]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-i-do-it-for-the-love-of-the-game-im-doing-what-i-love-i-love-what-i-do-i-like-what-i-do-gif-2909288522984704291

[dim spindle]

Wowhead is deep state confirmed

[unkempt grotto]

Theres no reasonable way for me to take advantage of the Eternal Voidstalkers Chain "dealing shadow damage does a thing" is there?

[compact knot]

well voidclaw gauntlets and the nexus point 2set both proc it

[unkempt grotto]

ooooh if i get the other riiiiing.

[compact knot]

but its doesnt do very much damage

its better to gear around the nexus point rings and gauntlets as they both do more dps then the neck

[quaint cedar]

is it right to use OF before popping cd in raid ?

[compact knot]

depends on the encounter, a fight like vorasius you want to use it with cds on pull then kinda just send it whenever.

a fight like dragons you want to hold it for cooldowns and use it on the balls

[slim coral]

yew

[compact knot]

but you can kinda just send it whenever on some fights and it doesnt matter much

[quaint cedar]

yeah i was talking about single target. Thx for the answer

[compact knot]

for st you can just send whenever typically except for on pull

[quaint cedar]

on pull i can use it before popping CD right ?

[compact knot]

id use it after you use cooldowns

no reason not to

you have everything on pull you can get it to benefit from increased rage gen, crit chance and extra damage from avatar

[quaint cedar]

cause on wowhead it's written to use it before cd (maybe i read it wrong)

[slim coral]

yeah you use it before cd bc it auto enrages you

[compact knot]

erm

[slim coral]

but there is a lot of nuance in a rotation

[compact knot]

its diff for slayer and thane ig

this just cant be right no?

why not just use avatar and reck before odyns lmao

[slim coral]

its right

becasue the dmage buff is not that valuable

for odyns

better to just get the avatar extension from tb

which you would be delaying a global if you odyns after

[quaint cedar]

ty

[dry hawk]

where is that

[compact knot]

wowhead

[dry hawk]

I've been opening in MT wrong this whole xpac lol

[modest condor]

not like it matters

probably like 0.2% difference

[dim crypt]

I can't understand why they are nerfing mountain thane and slayer (single target) when it doesn't seem like fury is overperforming at all

[modest condor]

they're not nerfing it they're changing the damage breakdown

the consequence is a nerf, but that wasnt the goal

[dim crypt]

well hopefully but i didnt see any changes to other spells for mountain thane. just looks like a nerf

[modest condor]

we're obviously hoping for compensation buffs

[stiff maple]

the blizzard special

[modest condor]

but i dont see them making the right buffs

we need massive st buffs for slayer and massive aoe buffs for thane to compensate for the loss

[spark coral]

can someone smarter than me explain why puzzle box is simming lower than heart of wind and solarflare bomb

[modest condor]

not with the info you have given us

link the sim

[spark coral]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1XMtcQGU3thfZUXvU2cC1s

maybe i punched in the compare wrong

or maybe its cause i have it set to dungeon slice 5 min

[modest condor]

you're doing a dungeon slice sim

we dont have a working apl for dungeon slice

[spark coral]

whats the best sim choice for a mythic +er

[modest condor]

5min st patchwerk and 5min 5 tar patchwerk and compare the results, then make a choice on what kind of damage you think is more important if the results are different

[spark coral]

ok

ty

[quiet geyser]

its crazy to see the massive drop fury has on logs

and thats without the .5 nerfs lol

[modest condor]

fury is only good on 1 boss and it's the pad boss

[stable leaf]

is the arms pref spec now in raid and m+?

[quick dock]

You guys worry about logs too much just play what’s fun.

[quiet geyser]

big time

[quiet geyser]

yes, using the best source to see how your spec is doing compared to everything else isn't a good idea.

[sullen dove]

love having fun doing 40% of a normal dps's dmg on st

(and aoe)

[quiet geyser]

this is def worse than tww s1

bordering shadowlands s1 tbh 😬

[dense elbow]

I am top on my meters, so I am content
I dont do push content, just chill weekly stuff

Join me, be happy

[quiet geyser]

happykitty

[lean nacelle]

big tertiaries

[quiet geyser]

today was the day i learned you could get 2 terts on a single item

[dense elbow]

Same, can you get all 3 tho

[fleet garden]

All four elements combine to make the ultimate piece of gear

[lean nacelle]

it's from the last boss in march of quel'danas, it comes with leech, it just also happened to roll avoidance as well

[dense elbow]

My dream is ruined

[dry hawk]

is that neck decent?

[winter shoal]

The alleria neck? Yes

[dry hawk]

yeah we just got AotC 🙂

[brittle crow]

i too just got aotc

(alleria)

[winter shoal]

You can sim it yourself but it's generally quite good, esp if you have the SotT gloves and NPX rings

[rugged star]

Is someone down to work with me... I have hit a wall?

[brittle crow]

?

[rugged star]

My DPS is subpar and I cant seem to get through it

[brittle crow]

step 1 have u looked at the rotation guide

[rugged star]

Yes there doesnt seem to be a rotation anymore

[brittle crow]

prio lists are still rotations

[slate cobalt]

if blade storm and colossus smash ever becomes off sync, whats the longest you guys are willing to wait before just sending it?

[brittle crow]

ask #arms

[winter shoal]

If you have specific questions or things that you're unclear about in the wowhead guide, feel free to ask about those

General questions are very difficult to answer though

[slate cobalt]

LOL ty wrong channel oops

[winter shoal]

The space of things you can be doing wrong is infinitely larger than the space of things that you can be doing right

[brittle crow]

but, you dont really hold smash

you hold other things for smash

but u dont hold smash

iirc

[slate cobalt]

I see, thanks

[indigo arch]

Should I send cds on cd on vorasius, or save second reck/avatar for the blister bugs?

(mythic)

[winter shoal]

send on cd and they'll naturally line up after the first set

[indigo arch]

Yea I sent one and was saving second set for adds

ok

wish these shits spawned closer to each other

that or they make odyn's reach to narnia

[dry ether]

whats ur guys thoughts on wow analyzer atm?

[frank dawn]

The guy has been working on it. It can definitely tell you if you’re generally making any big mistakes

I can’t really comment beyond that. I don’t use it

[winter shoal]

It should be up to date, if you find any issues let me know

[dry ether]

ty, i know for some classes its not really optimized yet, havent tried fury on it yet tho

or ive been told atleast*

[winter shoal]

It's entirely up to whether someone volunteers to maintain for that spec

So a lot of specs just don't have someone to update them

[dry ether]

ah I see

gonna test it out TY!

[soft dragon]

hello, can anyone help? is simulation craft dungeon slice good for siming for keys on fury warrior?

[dry hawk]

cutscene said fuck you

[brittle crow]

no

[dry hawk]

got me an orange normal parse

[echo scarab]

im so defeated

cant figure ts out

[soft dragon]

how do i sim for dungeons then?

[winter shoal]

Just sim 5 target 5 minute

[brittle crow]

that was MY question

dirty yellow

[winter shoal]

What is "ts" referring to

[brittle crow]

just sim 5 target 5 minute

[soft dragon]

lol

thank ill try that

[echo scarab]

being good at warrior lol

[winter shoal]

Can't be saying this in big 2026 man

[winter shoal]

Do you have specific questions or just venting?

Both valid

[echo scarab]

i feel like i dont even know what to ask anymore

ive spent hours practicing rotation, doing boss pulls, comparing etc and seems like i just cant break into that great damage area

not clicking

[winter shoal]

What I recommend is to watch vods of top players and pause every gcd and predict what they're about to do. If they do something different from what you predicted, make a note of that and look for patterns

[echo scarab]

Ive tried that its just very hard to keep track of what theyre pressing with most UIs

[winter shoal]

critcake has a tracker for his gcds

[olive wraith]

Also try uploading a log in the review channel/wow analyzer

[echo scarab]

Ive used wow analyzer a few times it doesnt make sense because when i plug like the top parse into it, it says similar 'errors' are occuring in the gameplay, but the difference between us is like 20k dps

like I genuinely feels like theres a button thats not even on my bars that other people have or something (this isnt actually happening)

[olive wraith]

You’ve plugged in your logs?

[echo scarab]

yeah mine and a top parse to compare the outputs

im ranting

[olive wraith]

Forget the top parser log. Analyzer is a tool to critique your logs

The errors are you logs?

[echo scarab]

the analyzer shows the 'common problems' thing and it actuallys shows more problems on the top parse log i plugged in

this guy did 81k boss dps, I did 61k - im sure a good chunk of this is rng specific to how vorasius works like if you get a bug youre going to have more downtime than someone who doesnt get fixated

[winter shoal]

Did they stay on boss isntead of hitting adds?

[echo scarab]

but in general when I feel like im doing really good on a fight, high uptime etc im still not in my top 10 damage for my group and my parses are low lol

sorry im just ranting rn, i probably shouldnt expect to play warrior for the first time ever and then immediately compete against the top players

[olive wraith]

Again ignore the other guys logs. He most likely made decisions based on the situation he was in. Focus on your stuff first

[winter shoal]

A lot of the rage-related things it flags are from auto attacks generating rage between globals, it can be helpful to go through the output alongside a vod and see what things it's flagging that are really "mistakes" vs "yeah that's technically correct but had 95 rage when I started pressing the button, and 100 rage after"

[echo scarab]

in that log example though im assuming during ST situation he was skipping casting TB2 in favor of hitting another Rampage/BB/BT

but the rotation guides will all strictly say you prio TB2 over Bloodthirst

I do have a question actually, if I do a quicksim and I go to a dummy and can match the DPS is that an indication that im not just playing like a dumbass and most of my issues are likely situation specific like maxxing boss/add uptime?

[graceful mural]

Go beast mode. Make it clap. Then don’t get mad at it

You’re overthinking

[echo scarab]

zugzug

[winter shoal]

Are you doing a dummy sim, and are you using battle shout in your dummy test?

It's probably an indication that you're not making any major mistakes at least

[echo scarab]

patch sim, no buffs

i check battleshout just in case

[onyx hazel]

are haste/mastery always bis stats? wowhead says at higher item levels you get diminishing returns on mastery so idk what stats to craft a ring with im 270 with 38% mastery

[winter shoal]

Not always but link the sim

I would use myth weapon in main hand, crafted in offhand

[brittle crow]

u SHOULD do that

[silent helm]

My dumbass thought i was in the arms channel, my bad fellas

[cerulean junco]

bigbowl my bro - how do you top dps for stdps on fallen king? i save my cds for amp phase but still getting nowhere near it

[brittle crow]

how hard are u saving

dont start losing cd usages because ur saving too long

[dim meadow]

thane or slayer for higher keys? 15+

[brittle crow]

thane for all keys

[cerulean junco]

i try to time it, definitely not waiting more then say 30s to time CDs

[brittle crow]

30s is nearly an entire lost set of cds

we're a 45 sec class!

[cerulean junco]

i think part of my problem was i wasting too much rage too, so i dont rage dump enough to reduce the CDs

why fury on all keys tho? some of the top streamers (critcake, kered etc) appear to be using arms for high keys and they seem to do alright

[dim meadow]

I simply like Fury

Props to arms this tier tho they deserve it

[brittle crow]

depends on what u care about

arms does way more aoe damage

but does less than tank dps in single target

[bitter palm]

slayer

arms is legit fury but better

[brittle crow]

ok so now u do tank dps

instead of less

[bitter palm]

?

u do more than fury

on both st and aoe

[brittle crow]

(my stats are cooked)

last time i simmed my arms raid build i did like 47k st

:3

[fringe vale]

had to do full st on chim because idk why rl said so

parsed a 3

st of this class is so ass

[brittle crow]

hugeeeee

couldve been a 2!!

[fringe vale]

i might just drop this game entirely

imagine being rank 130 ish of all slayer players in mythic chim

[bitter palm]

parsing is so

irrelevant

[fringe vale]

with a 3

and the only one actually being full st

because idk why

[bitter palm]

i would crash out on my rl

[fringe vale]

some strat dumb proof

[bitter palm]

playing pad spec but not being allowed to pad

i would genuinely crash out

[fringe vale]

i am

considering elaving the game

no cap

ima kms in a game

ive never been a green-gray parse myuthic raider

im actually having a panic attack with ts

fml

fuck this game

[bitter palm]

parsing this season is just

mega irrelevant

[frank dawn]

definitely feels like one of the dumbest raids to parse in, maybe ever lol

[bitter palm]

its just pad

[turbid bay]

Yeah parsing well doesnt even feel good this season. All of it feels degenerate min max padding stuff that half the time is a detriment to your raid group

[winter shoal]

I ignore adds entirely

[turbid bay]

Twin dragons is just holding cds to pad

[winter shoal]

I forgot to hold cds so I just sent them normally, got rank 3 boss dam and a 60 overall

not rank 60, 60th percentile

[cerulean junco]

yea ppl pad a lil bit, chimaerus nether realm phase, they just go back to dpsing boss after hitting ads for 2 seconds lol

[turbid bay]

Yeah thats really ethical and should feel good even if its a 60

Just weird tier, it would feel worse imo if wcl got rid of the adds entirely from certain fights like dragons

[winter shoal]

They did a similar thing on Rashanan and got a lot of pushback

The adds do need to die, it's just cringe to get top logs this tier

basically just have to get your raid to agree to let you pad

[turbid bay]

Yep

Rashanan change on wcl felt bad cause they take it off and it goes back to feeling bad to hold/plan bladestorm and odyns for it

Part of the reason i enjoyed fury so much that tier was planning brood and rashanan and mapping cds on the fights was fun and it didnt hugely affect boss dmg

Anger management on brood felt so good

[winter shoal]

There was 0 reason to play fury on that fight after adds were removed

Slarms just did like 50% more damage

Me when half the fight is execute range

[serene socket]

whats thane opening look like for single target? im seeing a few different takes like doing odyn fury then reck/ava, or reck/ava -> ramp -> blast -> bloodbath -> then odyn fury...

[winter shoal]

I OF first then reck/ava > ramp > TB

[slim coral]

@fleet sorrel

[trail bane]

Yea this has been a major talking point in my guild. Basically every boss favors padding on adds that most likely will die but do have to die. And most of those adds do not line up entierly with cds so some specs are griefing their progression to get a better log.

[hollow basalt]

What's the better talent spec atm? Thane or Slayer? I'm getting very vague answers from guides and logs are saying thane if I were to go by top dps. My main end game is Raiding with a little m+ prog

[winter shoal]

You're getting vague answers because it's a very vague question

Heroic raid is mostly slayer, thane on a couple bosses

Mythic raid is probably all thane

[serene cloud]

Slayer is better(ish) single target, so if your guild needs more ST boss damage, do slayer. If you need stronger cleave, thane. If you need more survive, thane is a bit tankier

[winter shoal]

M+ I'd personally play thane or arms, I wouldn't play slayer fury, but Noxiv is one of the best warriors in the world and he's playing it so it's not THAT bad

[fleet sorrel]

@slim coral post your ce

[serene cloud]

Guild is doing prog on Crown, and struggling with healing. So thane it is for me

I'm also a lot more comfrotable on Thane, so it generally feels better

[willow cradle]

Gratz gamer

[hollow basalt]

I should've said im pretty new to warrior sorry. Thanks for the info

[pulsar quest]

damn

paladins got hands

that fight is crazy

[winter shoal]

I will also say that thane is better at sustained aoe, so you may see a lot of top logs using that because it's good for padding, but that isn't necessarily useful for prog

[untold shale]

Not anymore

[winter shoal]

To which part of that

[pulsar quest]

HUGE BAZE

[untold shale]

Novix playing slayer

[unborn delta]

Slarms feels kinda good now I’m ngl I’ve started the migration

[bitter palm]

idk slarms just kinda better at everything

[unborn delta]

According to my 🔮 slarms will be the go to in 12.0.5 too

[bitter palm]

hope not

[pulsar quest]

its hard to just assume based on what noxiv plays, hes a great warrior however he may play what his specific comp needs

[winter shoal]

If .5 goes live as-is it's colossus all day

[bitter palm]

no skyfury slarms is torture

[winter shoal]

(I will be in hell)

[bitter palm]

genuine torture to play

[pulsar quest]

they may have different dmg profiles so he plays a diff build

[winter shoal]

Bro you play colossus arms

[bitter palm]

i wish

[winter shoal]

most miserable spec in the game

[bitter palm]

skill issue i think

just pool rage pre aoe burst

[pulsar quest]

slarms is fun

too bad its gutted

[trail bane]

Surely there will be more changes to warrior in .5

[bitter palm]

its gonna own so hard in .5

[trail bane]

There is no way they are leaving our boss damage in this state

[winter shoal]

I mean he played slurry in an 18 AA which is higher than 99.9% of this discord will do all season so like

[trail bane]

Right?

[winter shoal]

close enough

my point stands

[bitter palm]

i mean if people stopped padding

[pulsar quest]

https://tenor.com/view/burnt-peanut-side-eye-the-burnt-peanut-gif-6339277251445282356

[unborn delta]

18 is warmup key

[bitter palm]

boss damage would be higher

[untold shale]

Slurry and slarms

[bitter palm]

idk i hate slarms so much

rng is making me mental boom

[slim coral]

post yours bud

[winter shoal]

Slarms feels 17 times better than colossus

[bitter palm]

do u play with skyfury

[winter shoal]

Sometimes

I just pug keys mostly

[bitter palm]

no skyfury slarms is torture

in execute phsae

[winter shoal]

no skyfury feels WAY worse as colossus

Both specs feel like trash in exe range tho

[bitter palm]

idk as colo i just never press exe and its fine

[winter shoal]

with or without skyfury

[winter shoal]

Me when I press cleave instead of execute on single target

cooked ass spec

[pulsar quest]

yeah i mean u dont even run deep wounds right so

useless button

only good for rage pooling with SD

[bitter palm]

sd good

ep value

[pulsar quest]

sd worse than cleave st

change my mind

[unborn delta]

Bogos binted

[bitter palm]

i mean u can also just not cleave on st and lose 0.2% or w/e

spec is crit gamba anyway

[winter shoal]

I don't know the numbers on arms APL shit

[bitter palm]

if ur mortal strikes dont crit

[winter shoal]

I just do as the guide says

[bitter palm]

u will do tank dps

no matter what u play

[pulsar quest]

yippee

[winter shoal]

Bro I used one (1) non-SD exe on NPX second boss during the damage amp

had no rage for the rest of my CS

[bitter palm]

over

[winter shoal]

did tank damage

[bitter palm]

ye

[pulsar quest]

yeah rip

thats banned

[bitter palm]

disgusting design

genuinely disgusting design

[pulsar quest]

i miss tww s2 colo

[bitter palm]

s3 colo

demo hitting for 3409583743073407349073490347904367934797

billion

trillion

[pulsar quest]

didnt touch that monstrosity

meta slave i used slayer to get my title

[bitter palm]

gg

[slim coral]

thanks bud!

[turbid bay]

Been enjoying slarms in m+ this season it feels kinda good

[primal tulip]

so im torn on trinkets i have the puzzle box but everyone is using the heart but my dps feels so bad with the heart anyone else get that?

[hollow leaf]

heart is a little bit bait though, sims recently got a baseline miss chance to reflect it

[primal tulip]

ya sims are a lie in dungons no mob is standing still for 5 min lol

[thorny basin]

plume and alnseer go brrr

[hardy cargo]

are any simc knowers knowing if the loa worshipper band is oversimming or simbait

for st

[primal tulip]

ok ok i was thinking that ty

[undone flower]

But you are likely fighting for 5 min straight with only couple of seconds of break

I would even say 20 min sim is the future

[hollow leaf]

it's rare that bosses in raids give 100% uptime as well, you need a little bit of critical thinking but sims are the best way we have of comparing gear in any situation

[sudden aurora]

Hi everyone, since last reset I've noticed during raid & m+ that my char gets stuck in a certain animation (Mid swing). I can continue doing damage but it looks like it is stuck and an attack sound is played but doesnt match the actual attack. After a few attacks it snaps out of it and continues as normal. It feels like the animations are going too fast and the game cant keep up. It doesnt feel like its affecting the actual damage but it's very weird and distracting when it happens. I'm not 100% sure which ability is causing it but it feels it has something to do with execute .

Has anyone experienced anything similar or knows what is causing this?

I'm a Zandalari Troll Fury warrior, Haste 1130 (28%)

[outer rover]

Yes I have the Same. On Zandalar warrior but also on n11 warrior.

[sudden aurora]

I believe those use the same base model so that would make sense since it seems that it is an animation problem.

[silk wharf]

I've had it happen rarely on void elf as well. Just an animation glitch of some sort, annoying but not actually impactful.

[fathom jetty]

why we dont use odins fury before cds? it would generate more rage and make more dmg?

and point 9: we use clap also for 5- targets with avatar? use it over execute and bloodthurst?

[smoky vale]

57

[undone flower]

big portion of odyns fury dmg is the dot + more chance of your second odyns cast to be 100% in avatar and 5t is that

[smoky vale]

who is 57

@undone flower

[radiant plank]

stream for me boy

[undone flower]

anda is 5 7

[smoky vale]

its 3 am

and my mom alreayd woke up like 2 times

[radiant plank]

gg

waking up mom

[smoky vale]

i havent made a peep

she just senses im not in bed

idk

voodoo shit

[undone flower]

go sleepy

[smoky vale]

also watch my last vod

@radiant plank

[radiant plank]

why

i was watching the entire stream

or did u stream during the evening

cuz I was sleepin

[smoky vale]

evening

wes taught me

[undone flower]

arms57

[smoky vale]

and armsrework

[stiff maple]

I love arms warrior! It's so fun!

[radiant plank]

which one shouold I start with

probably the better one

[smoky vale]

do @vocal thorn taught me first

[vocal thorn]

!

[radiant plank]

Sure

[sullen dove]

yay!

[stiff maple]

Im sorry. I mostly lied.

Colossus arms is fun in aoe though so that's cool

[untold yacht]

I just wanna confirm 1 thing in 12.05 if they nerf our thunderclap we are giga nerfed with dmg and fury will be not playable right?

Im deciding whether to keep on playing this game

[sullen dove]

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[sick pagoda]

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[wind ether]

sounds like you don’t wanna play

it’s still gonna be good i reckon

[untold yacht]

I just dont wanna be forced to play arms, and not seem viable to guild/M+ teammate on fury thats it

[wind ether]

oh yeah that does sound miserable

you’ll be fine

[untold yacht]

we're not huge gigachads doing like 15's atm only but still

[sudden tusk]

slarms warriro owns in keys

big fun

[sullen dove]

may try in baby keys

[wind ether]

even if your spec isn’t meta you can still do whatever you want

the key is to whisper the owners of the group

and be like

[sullen dove]

#arms message

[wind ether]

selling them a narrative

about how good you are

[sullen dove]

the key is to have the highest item level and do 200k overall

[wind ether]

the key is to make shit up

at the group leader

[sullen dove]

real

or

(now this is very unheard of tech)

you become the group leader

[wind ether]

ain’t no way these pisslows are bricking my key

minimum ilvl 280

my +3

[sullen dove]

inv

[lean osprey]

You can absolutely do 15s on fury even after those nerfs

Even way higher will be possible

[wind ether]

what the hell

bro is 4 off my pvp ilvl

[lean osprey]

All down to player skill just lock in homie

[wind ether]

it’s about charisma

there’s 4000 overqualified dps applying to every key

you gotta sell yourself in the dms

that’s where opportunities arise

[fast mural]

If someone dms me when applying to my key it's an insta ignore
Desperate people are depleters

[wind ether]

i’m ignored by hundreds

but i also don’t get bored of queuing

i tell em

[lean osprey]

Even when classes are bottom of the barrel they will still be able to complete at worst 2 key levels off of max if you can play well

[wind ether]

yeah cutting edge r1 exp all that

[fast mural]

The best way to get Into groups is have 3600 rio

Or maybe 4000 at this point

Idk what the top guys are at rn

[lean osprey]

Unfortunately even at 3.6 you will get mogged by dk dh comps and not invited

[undone flower]

im doing 16s and it's fine

[fast mural]

Obviously you can only apply to groups that have a Monk and BL

[undone flower]

there is almost always a monk

[wind ether]

what’s a bl

[undone flower]

bloodlust

[wind ether]

oh yeah

i don’t do pve so i forgot it exists

it’s disabled

mayne

on fury

shuffle feels like m+

[undone flower]

only pvp i do is BGs

[lean osprey]

pvp

[modern cliff]

Hey folks, I’m a bit confused with the 12.0.5 upcoming changes. The patch notes read “chance proc to reap the storm increased by 20%”. As far as
i remember, when they were firstly announced this was a interpreted as a nerf. But now when I check the talents, is already 20%. What am I missing? What is the actual change coming up?

[radiant plank]

it was initially nerfed for 0.5

[sullen dove]

its 20% off bt right now, it was 15% off rampage only on aoe before change now back to 20% on rampage for only aoe

cuz 15% proc chance is kind of dogmeat

even if u do hit ramp a decent bit more than bt

[modern cliff]

Yeah that’s what i remembered

[sullen dove]

on the lowks think they could just swing that up to like 35% and still barely change anything

[modern cliff]

So they changed it?

[sullen dove]

would be nicer

bit more burst in cds

[modern cliff]

And the same for arms slayer?

Because that’s also 20% proc chance now

I’ll ask in there

[sullen dove]

yea

theirs off cleave now i think

maybe

or just mortal strike only when it sweeps something

[modern cliff]

Alright thanks

[past wyvern]

It proc via execute too if it hits another target right ?

I mean sd

[sullen dove]

yea sd still guaranteed proc

only on aoe

at least they gave that back somewhat

[smoky vale]

[sullen dove]

thank the lord

[smoky vale]

[smoky vale]

[sullen dove]

we just emote spam replying for fun i guess

[pearl sequoia]

[analog matrix]

Guys is Arms > fury now in m+?

[undone flower]

yay

[summer quail]

Yes for higher keys, lower do whatever you want

[analog matrix]

Okay thx, guess i have to prepare Arms then 🥲

Or reroll to ret 😬

[undone flower]

Aug*

[quasi shell]

For 12.0.5 since they are removing reap procs from single target wouldnt it be nice if they added the 2set effect from manaforge raid as a talent so sudden death procs slayers strike to make the executioner effect fun? Its like slayer's strike doesnt even exist

[uneven path]

Not really, they are both still on equal footing, at least rio is pretty much mached between fury and arms players it seems.

[proven hornet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1333755767714611230/0128.gif

[azure wolf]

Is thane getting nerfed in 12.0.5?

[empty cairn]

jup

[dusky crypt]

yes

[empty cairn]

less clap

[azure wolf]

😭

L’s in the chat

Do we think slayers going to be the move then or just swap to arms lmfao

[tardy lark]

swapping off warrior is probably the move

[azure wolf]

Lmfao on god

[honest trail]

Am already hating playing Thane

I'd probably quit if that's "the play"

[dense elbow]

Friendly reminder that we will see buffs or changes to compensate lowered output

If the changes go live as is, then we can doom away. That do seem extremely unlikely tho

[honest trail]

Agree

I like the changes for aoe slayer

Just need st compensation

[azure wolf]

Are they buffing anything else

ST is ass

Literally laughable

[honest trail]

Not at the moment

[tardy lark]

[summer quail]

can doom about thane changes anyway. even if compensated the damage nerf to tc in avatar will make avatar feel worse. the cdr is whatever

[tardy lark]

make my fucking cooldown feel like a cooldown man

at least that made avatar actually impactful rather than 20% damage

[azure wolf]

So no buff anywhere else just a thane nerf is wild

[tardy lark]

"warrior isnt doing too hot in ST and they arent pressing RB at all... Nerf Tclap massively and surely they will press RB"

[honest trail]

I would not have nerfed Thane. I don't like the tree but their current design is nice

[azure wolf]

Lol

[honest trail]

Just buff Slayer

[tardy lark]

whoever designs warrior needs to be fired

[azure wolf]

I’m actually so salty about this rn

[dense elbow]

That is fair, but ppl do yammer about numbers

Not gameplay

[tardy lark]

I just told my guild mid progress that i am not playing warrior before next tier

[sullen dove]

well numbers is the most important thing for 95% of people and content in the game so yeah

[tardy lark]

if you dont have good numbers, you dont really get to play the game

[dense elbow]

I would say 95% in here

[sullen dove]

well

maybe more like 50% of the content

but 95% of ppl for sure

[tardy lark]

so the "care about design not numbers" argument kinda blows

i can live with mediocre damage like manaforge cause warrior was fun to play

this dogshit can literally go die in a ditch

[sullen dove]

manaforge was op...

[honest trail]

Manaforge dogshit numbers?

[tardy lark]

how was warrior good in manaforge before the reap changes

[honest trail]

Oo

[sullen dove]

i mean that was literally like.. within a few weeks after patch i feel like

and then it was like the best its ever been in m+

[honest trail]

The was like 2 weeks in

[sullen dove]

and p good in raid too

[dense elbow]

Sounds to me you just tilted atm, and want to complain to complain

That is fair tho, it do be fun to do

[tardy lark]

idk, we just got to dimmy when they happened

where warrior had been meh entire raid

[sullen dove]

dont think that change did too much for any important raid bosses other than demon hunters

slightly better p2 salhadaar ig and platform pad

[tardy lark]

it made fury pretty good on dimmy

[sullen dove]

ya

[honest trail]

Araz too

Funnel was fun

[sullen dove]

eh adds died 2 seconds after bladestorm ended anyway

and it still wasnt real funnel

[honest trail]

More targets more reap

[sullen dove]

just more st damage than you wouldve had before while aoeing

[honest trail]

Not really but

More.targets more reap so more dmg on prio

[tardy lark]

kinda need to remember that you are still pressing ww every 4th global for this "funnel"

or rather, 5th global i guess

[dense elbow]

[honest trail]

Idk I just freaking loved that season

Overall

[tardy lark]

yeah it was good after the reap change

[honest trail]

Now I feel bad about everything lol

[tardy lark]

samesies

[versed temple]

Fury vs arms for raid?

[dense elbow]

I found the super flat dam profile of RB Reap spam to be quite boring

Did good dam, but gameplay felt unrewarding

[honest trail]

It was very basic

Some like, some don't

But it was pretty good

[tardy lark]

I liked the difference in whether you chose to fish for reap procs or play your optimal rotation

[dense elbow]

Yep, 100% matter of taste

[honest trail]

Thane is also good atm

Slayer is garbage

Gameplay wise

[tardy lark]

Thane feels the most like TWW did, but rest of the specs/builds are just dead

[azure wolf]

Nerfing my thane 😥