fury

[rare garnet]

some quests and stuff give you crests not related to weekly cap

[echo rapids]

Clear heroic raid I imagine

[rich veldt]

Ahhh

Ty ty

[echo rapids]

Oh the cap

[robust onyx]

housing quest gives capped crests right?

[rare garnet]

i think the ?? gives some and a few other places

[echo rapids]

I think the bonus hero crests from one time quests don’t count

Like the one for 3x nightmare prey

[granite crown]

Lowkey taking champ crests and slamming them before raid is better anyway no? Will fill hero either way before we use them for any upgrades

[echo rapids]

Hero crests should still be being held

[rare garnet]

i mean, you could, i dont think much of it matters at the end of the day, everything done this week is invalidated as soon as keys are out next week

[granite crown]

Faster raid clear always good

Last boss looking kinda hard for us mortals

[rare garnet]

dks OP war sucks

smh my head

[echo rapids]

Yeah did they over nerf them?

Ours was wallowing last night

And he’s a good player

[granite crown]

dw it's DK, they'll get a buff next reset

[echo rapids]

Also is arms just padding or something

[placid palm]

My damage does feel noticeably higher.

[south kayak]

They didn't. This raid barely has any pure ST bosses and that's what UHDK excels at

Their AOE/Cleave isn't good

Even before the nerfs, it wasn't exceptional

They weren't compensated enough

Feral sims the highest on ST but have meh aoe and look where they are

Same case

[haughty zephyr]

Looks like most of the logs are back and forth between slayer and thane. Is it that close in raid?

[rare garnet]

pretty close right now esp since on normal adds just implode

im sure as we get harder content it may change

but there was never any time adds were up more than like 3 globals

and thane/slayer have pretty close ST

[blissful hound]

On Mythic we will see way more Thane Im sure

[tough mist]

Are we using Arcane Mastery on both weapons or one Arcane Mastery the other Berserker's Rage?

[south kayak]

Yep

This is the first time I see so many thanes in raid

[rare garnet]

acuity of the ren'dorei is simming higher for me on weapons

[south kayak]

The entirety of TWW barely had any thane in raid

[rare garnet]

at the moment, so thats what im using

[south kayak]

aside from one or two bosses

Stix being of them for a little bit

[tough mist]

hmm good to know thank you

[rare garnet]

yeah, nice to see thane rep in raid, i hope they make slayer fury more competitive in keys as well, nice when there are great options

[restive glen]

Anyone else feel a bit of a challenge with the nightmare prey in eversong? Maybe it was just me but it took a few tries and the amount of increased dmg taken combined with little healing made me have to spec into enraged regen.

[blissful hound]

70k damn

[sweet flower]

are we 100% crafting a weapon? or is there nuance to that?

[echo rapids]

In TWW Thane was always father behind slayer in ST

[restive glen]

weapon to start until you get 2 weapons from M+/raid prob and then craft cloak combined with bracers i think

but in the end I dont really know if it 100% matters that much but thats what Archis guide wrote in wowhead

[modest wave]

70k is pretty nutty, whats gear like?

[sweet flower]

guides have updated as of today/yesterday and say BiS craft is a 2H weapon and bracers. Agreed it said bracers/cloak before. I have 2 263 weapons already so wondering if I just stick with the gear pieces

[odd crater]

#updates-midnight message

[blissful hound]

What addon are you using for the stats?

[rare garnet]

eqol

[blissful hound]

tyvm

[next hatch]

When is M+ going to be available? Could anyone tell me please?

[echo rapids]

Gemmed and enchanted 💰

Big ups

[blissful hound]

Next reset

[next hatch]

Thx!

[rare garnet]

need that early pumps before my raid catches up in gear kek

[south kayak]

They're probably gonna nerf Demo an additional time based on the data from this week

[rare garnet]

rip bladestorm, we're gonna miss you

[proud vessel]

How many M0 are on daily lockout now?

[rare garnet]

all 8

for the season

[proud vessel]

So non season are irrelevant or this week still on the list?

Or do those not drop 246?

[south kayak]

If they nerf BS, Slayer is gonna be using Avatar and I'm pretty sure they're aware of that lol

And this isn't like Nerubar where Fury warriors occupied every nook and cranny with bosses that had a bunch of adds

There's other specs that are doing better

[surreal lynx]

is delve level 8 still the max ilvl from restored keys?

[south kayak]

Demo, Frost, Devo, Deva and MM are all doing better than Fury

[echo rapids]

You’re not wrong

[hushed gust]

Are m0s dropping champion now?

[rare garnet]

yup

[echo rapids]

What do you mean

You can do up to 11s now

[rare garnet]

looks like one of the m0s arent counting for vault

[surreal lynx]

just meant that is there any reason going higher than eight if you just want champ track from your coffer keys?

[bitter palm]

classic blizzard

[lean osprey]

Are there any down sides to spending champion crests now? Should I be saving them for anything?

[surreal lynx]

for bountiful delves

[blissful hound]

Not really considering their cap is 400 instead of 100 and you will get a lot of them once you start spamming M+

[echo rapids]

Right now I don’t think so

Since we can’t get myth crests yet

[toxic flare]

This is a type o right

[rare garnet]

we could use a 2nd spender someone said

[hollow leaf]

Xdd

[rare garnet]

maybe it happened

[robust onyx]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3GxVwV2FjqMAXRurAzUWUK should I craft wrists for emmbellishment or some vet track replacement

[south kayak]

No, there's a secret button for MS and Cleave for Fury

[rare garnet]

/use [noknown:mortal strike]mortal strike

allows fury to cast MS

[clever iron]

Are we just sendin the hero crests?

[high echo]

its 3 sparks max this week right?

[dry hawk]

Crit/haste on weapon fine?

[echo rapids]

All of guides say no, not till next week

[echo rapids]

4

[high echo]

im 3/3 on sparks, where do i get the 4th

[echo rapids]

To use for now yeah but craft as haste mastery

[river nimbus]

its a visual bug in the currency tab. but you can get 4.

[maiden helm]

always worth to craft the weapon now even if you have 2x 250 whirling voidcleavers?

[high echo]

omg bruhh yeah

[hollow leaf]

Save

[hollow leaf]

[dry hawk]

Sweet, ty. I'm hogging all my crests rn

[turbid spruce]

Can someone share the spreadsheet with the sims of all the dps in full gear ? I want to compare arms and fury

[dry hawk]

You could sim 50 ways to Sunday and it be different when you are geared vs now

[robust onyx]

warriors are not simmed yet i think

[hollow leaf]

They are

[robust onyx]

https://www.simulationcraft.org/reports/MID1_Raid.html

[hollow leaf]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GKshVVe_RAXO0I7kFnmg4Nu7kkqbJRV4GItbUHCvLfc/htmlview?pru=AAABnRIFB9s*#gid=1774556142

Fury 102k arms 88k

[turbid spruce]

Thanks. Thats what i wanted

[wraith heron]

anyone know if we can zerker rage this? got it from delve

[echo rapids]

I’d spend adv and vet crests now for sure

[steel horizon]

is crafting a hero track weapon the play this week?

[dry hawk]

Lemme rephrase, anything over champ crest I've been hogging

240/237 weapons crafting my 2h weapon tonight

[desert dirge]

If I recraft a weapon do I get to keep the enchant?

[tranquil fulcrum]

Yes

[desert dirge]

Aw hell yeah

[hardy shuttle]

It says horrified so id say no.

[opaque mortar]

So on logs right now Slayer seems to be the overwhelming majority of players logged, but Thane seems so be pulling significantly more DPS. Any guesses on what's going on?

For raid I mean

[wary python]

With slayer should I be holding recklesness and avatar for my bladestorms in a ST spot

or only hold if its like 5-10 seconds apart?

[blissful hound]

Entirely depends on how much you can pad on adds, Thane is better at that

[echo rapids]

This

[granite crown]

Midnight world tour spark exceeds the cap afaik

[echo rapids]

I got a 97 parse on normal imperator as thane and I still don’t feel like I know what I’m doing

The aoe pad is REAL

you can avatar every add set

[hardy shuttle]

From how the fights I did last night went, I felt like thane cds lined up better on a few bosses. 1st boss, double dragons, paladins all felt real good as thane

[regal vector]

After doing the raid last night it feels like tww season 1 where the fights play well into our kit, hope we dont get gutted because of it like last time

[opaque mortar]

Most logs tend to exclude unimportant add damage . Not sure how these fights are exactly but oh well. I prefer thane anyway but was thinking of doing slayer for raid.

[blissful hound]

That usually happens throughout the season after surveys though

[opaque mortar]

True. Worth keeping an eye on I guess.

[light tapir]

Is the IWT audio countdown extremely quiet for anybody else? Messed with its settings and my audio settings in wow itself and its barely audible for me

[echo rapids]

I don’t think fury is blasting the way it was in tww season 1 start

[regal vector]

Probably not i just have PTSD

[echo rapids]

We arnt in the top 5 on about half the bosses

[hardy shuttle]

Nah and a bunch of other classes out burst us on the pad. We just have it up every set instead of every other

So I dont think its overwhelming burst on our parts

[placid palm]

Are we only getting the one piece of hero track gear through open world stuff?

[digital mauve]

What do you mean by padding ? ( I'm a beginner)

[opaque mortar]

Extra damage on the logs that isn't from the boss.

Sometimes it's wasteful just to make you numbers look good

[echo rapids]

Padding is kind of vague but usually is doing aoe damage to unimportant low health mobs

[opaque mortar]

Some fights you need to clear adds fast so it's helpful, other fights it's just people stoking their ego a bit

[echo rapids]

Yeah sometimes it is important

It has a slightly unethical tinge

[digital mauve]

Ok got it. But as Thane it comes mainly via ThunderBlast right ? Vue you still Ramapge and BT the boss as the primary target ?

[echo rapids]

We do a lot of passive cleave so it isn’t really as relevant for fury

But most specs have to choose more firmly whether they will do Aoe or single target

[digital mauve]

Yup

Have you guys bought your gems, enchants, oil and potions yet ?

[winter shoal]

Yes

Did over the weekend when they were like half as expensive

[fiery hare]

shouldnt we be able to reduce cost to gold if we got champ trink and put it in both slots?

[opaque mortar]

Prices will start to fall back to baseline over the next week. If you aren't on a serious raid team and have your crafted weapon yet it won't kill you to wait

[fiery hare]

like i got 250 trink and i put it in both slots and i still havce to pay crests to upg my veteran one to6

[winter shoal]

No, for rings and trinkets you need two of them at that ilvl

[fiery hare]

poop :<

ty

[winter shoal]

it works for weapons because of 2h shenanigans

[high echo]

Yea it seems so cheers

[fiery hare]

also stupid crucible simming too high

[digital mauve]

Wise words, ty

[fiery hare]

cuz sim still thinks it gives 200 crit

[forest berry]

Hello guys concercing the weapons enchants, berserker's rage or the one giving strenght ?? ty

[opaque mortar]

I think it's beasrker on the main hand and the main stat one on the offhand

[forest berry]

just sim and seems like its acuity main hand and berserk's off hand, not 100% sure tho

[sturdy geyser]

how to get shards of dundun? i pretty much colewscted all treasures

collected*

[opaque mortar]

Do you have mining or herbing? I normally get mine from mining nodes

[sturdy geyser]

dont have gathering professions

kinda stuck here

[placid palm]

Ugh got a vers stat stick trinket from the world boss. I guess it will make it easier to upgrade a drop.

[brittle mauve]

ya'll know any quick ways of getting these community coupons

[buoyant hatch]

I'm a bit out of the loop, is it worth it now to press bladestorm in pure ST as Slayer?

[sullen dove]

very

[eternal tree]

very frustrated about having to play the clapman hero talent, anyone else biting the bullet and playing slayer despite what the guides say?

(for m+)

[tropic inlet]

you can play what you want brother

[drifting token]

No because clapman is fun as heck and roulette proc man is dumb

[eternal tree]

i'm sure this data is out there but like how much of a pariah are we considered for m+ if we go for the more class-aesthetic and manly hero talent?

[tropic inlet]

if you play decent, other players won't even notice

[drifting token]

I believe the big brains said there's roughly a 15% gap between them on 5t+. But again depends on how serious you're tryna be

[solar zephyr]

Manly?

U dont like clappin cheeks?

[winter shoal]

There's some nuance in that this is on sustained 5t - thane bursts higher in aoe, but slayer bursts faster. If a set of adds will die within the duration of a bladestorm, slayer will end up doing more aoe dps in that case

[radiant plank]

Colossus bursts fastest

[eternal tree]

perhaps not the best choice of words but i don't exactly love not having bladestorm on a warrior, just feels wrong

[winter shoal]

Okay armsman

[remote bobcat]

I guess EU fabled closed

[drifting token]

I mena sure but in the provided context being m+ mobs that's never gonna be the case

[radiant plank]

few hours ago yeah

[winter shoal]

In low keys it might but yeah thane probably better

[remote bobcat]

IN NORTH AMERICA

like

[radiant plank]

eu closed legit 3 hours ago

[blissful hound]

Just an hour or two ago but yeah

[solar zephyr]

Nah bro go clap thats the modt manly ability we got

[remote bobcat]

why is there no wowhead post on it

for EU

[radiant plank]

they r slow ig

[blissful hound]

wowhead doesnt care about EU

[remote bobcat]

bruh.

[blissful hound]

[remote bobcat]

what a scam

came back from job interview

checked to see if its open

saw it is open

sit down and do it

no fabled

[blissful hound]

The delve tells you tho

[remote bobcat]

gg

idk

[blissful hound]

But how did the interview go

[remote bobcat]

i dont read ingame

[remote bobcat]

p good

i might be able to start as data analyst mid of april

🙂‍↕️

[eternal tree]

that sucks but good for you, very glad to see wow players trying to improve their lives by getting a job, keep at it king 👑

[remote bobcat]

thanks king

[gusty cloak]

all delve trinkets suck for us?

[ancient olive]

where can I find what builds people are running for which boss in raid?

[drifting token]

warcraftlogs

[opaque mortar]

If you go to wow logs, click on a boss and go to rankings. Pick the top warrior and see their gear and talents

[echo rapids]

Pretty much

[ancient olive]

thank uuu

[echo rapids]

Potentially still useful if you get a heroic one for crest upgrade shenanigans

[smoky nacelle]

and I'll recraft with myths next week too! yolo

[winter shoal]

oh no baby what is you doing

[twin plover]

💀

[smoky nacelle]

living my life

[quiet skiff]

Hello guys, anyone knows why algethar box trinket sim so bad ? is it because the use isnt included ?

[echo rapids]

Pour one out

[winter shoal]

week 2 heroic logs better be worth it big dog

[willow obsidian]

Are any of you mad lads using the trinket that horrifies you if you don’t kill something?

[opaque mortar]

Is there a difference between the spark crafted 2h for us? Or is it just for aesthetic? Polearm vs sword vs mace etc

[willow obsidian]

Aesthetic. Sword is unlocked for all crafters first so it might be quicker to fulfill.

None of the looks are particularly impressive. 😵‍💫

[bright blaze]

Recently started going to normal dungeons (i am lvl 70-something) and my friend (similar ilvl and lvl) who is ret-pala does much higher dps than me, should i feel concerned about it?

[knotty hill]

So im ilvl 248. And im having an issue killing the adds on ?? Before the phase is over. What can i do differently

[warm crag]

Lust the second add Set if thats the one you struggle on

Hold CDs for it if u arent

[knotty hill]

Even the first one. If i go out of dstance i just die. So i feel like im not doing enough damage

[odd crater]

I was struggling with it at 251, but I found nuking down one of them on first pack worked best while cleaving second. Second pack I tried to pull it in two groups and that got me through it a few times

Never made it to third pack

[sullen dove]

so long as you hold cds shouldn’t really die to just adds

[odd crater]

I also swapped into Enraged Regen, Second Wind for the fight, worked

[sullen dove]

The first 2 ravager hurt a bit but the bugs did almost no dmg

Should def always take enraged regen tho

[worthy tundra]

nothing to be concerned about. Leveling dungeons are not balanced

[sullen dove]

and keep valeeras hot up at 4 stacks

[odd crater]

Bugs have a stacking debuff or some shit that hits hard at 5 stacks

[sullen dove]

That’s like the harder skill check thing is keeping track of them

[odd crater]

I was using War Stomp + Shockwave to help mitigate the stacks

[sullen dove]

extending the hot by periodically picking up her balls

[bright blaze]

Dungeons are not balanced?

[knotty hill]

What curios are being used

[bright blaze]

Don't you mean the classes are not balanced during leveling stage?

[odd crater]

Void Overload or whatever, and the poison one, is what I was using

[sullen dove]

Porcelain tip best ig

crit taken seems good

[warm crag]

Only one of them can cast at a time so you just cc chain them until they die

Should be easy with 15 ilvls on me when i did it

[open shoal]

what is the best craft for hc splits as fury warrior? will go mythic next week

[odd crater]

Yeah I mentioned that immediatelly after, using War Stomp + Shockwave 😛

[warm crag]

Strombolt works

[odd crater]

But what about stormbolt

[forest ginkgo]

Did it as slayer fury

honestly wasnt too bad if u just save cds for adds, also important to try and burst down the last add as fast as possible

cuz i died a few times to him still being up when boss starts attacking again

Mostly cuz it felt like the beams that cover the room aimed more towards me when the last add was up

And then they cover the add and your healing cant really keep up

[terse ether]

u did that as fury?

[elder tree]

Is it worth using Heroic Dawncrests for crafting weapon this week?

[smoky nacelle]

they practically threw 80 heroic crests at everyone yesterday..I said fuck it, recraft!

I'll get 80 mythic crests next week in the same amount of time...easy gaming

helps my guild in heroic progression considering you won't see a 2h till 5/6 Voidspire

[frank dawn]

The argument is you can use those hero crests on other items by skipping to myth next week

[runic acorn]

if you're going into heroic and get a weapon drop, 100% worth it

[frank dawn]

But it’s pretty minor really

[humble sleet]

Guys are you using the Banding or Hunt Embellishment on your Weapon?

[smoky nacelle]

Hunt

[runic acorn]

Hunt

[humble sleet]

ty 🙂

[sweet flower]

how do we get 80 dawncrests to craft heroic gear? I've done all my bountiful delves, all 4 preys, the weekly quest

and I'm only at 74

[ocean ore]

Coming back after some years, is mythic pugging/cross realm still time gated behind hall of fame

[maiden drift]

simple, you don't and wait till next week to craft it in myth

[smoky nacelle]

or don't wait if your guild is already pushing Heroic voidspire

[sour thorn]

Yep

[unique forge]

Watching the logs I notice that a lot of fury warriors use Crucible of Erratic Energies (trinket from Singularity rep). But when I sim my character it sims really low. Does it have any benefits in the raid or is anyone else wondering the same?

[maiden drift]

if your guild is already pushing heroic you just get one there for your mainhand that's even worse

[frank dawn]

It doesn’t sim correctly

[sweet flower]

sooooo

[smoky nacelle]

let people live their lives man

[sweet flower]

the answer is you can only get the other 6 from Heroic Raid?

[maiden drift]

People can do what they want, just giving out the tip you don't have to waste 80 heroic crests for shit

[rugged sphinx]

does it matter which weapon we craft? some are saving axe, some are saying mace.

[smoky nacelle]

its not wasting dude

thats your opinion

[maiden drift]

you literally waste 80 crests just to recraft it with mythic crests next week bro

[smoky nacelle]

does not matter

[sweet flower]

Gotcha, but the question isn't shoudl I should I not do it. The question is HOW do I do it? I only have 74. If I want to do it is my only option Heroic Raid?

[smoky nacelle]

its so fucking easy to get crests dude chill

its not that serious

[maiden drift]

It's weekly capped

[unique forge]

Thank you

[maiden drift]

you literally spent a whole week cap for nothing

[smoky nacelle]

you need a hug man? who cares

[burnt oxide]

He has immediate fun instead of fun later

[smoky nacelle]

seriously

[warm crag]

From an optimization perspective you are griefing your character Progression short and longterm if u craft hc weapon

[maiden drift]

bro stfu if you have nothing useful to say except being passive aggressive

holy shit

[fallen solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-comendo-picoca-gif-9669437860846841235

[eager thorn]

U can just craft without hero crests

[smoky nacelle]

says the one telling me what to do ookay

[eager thorn]

Get embellishment and recraft myth

[maiden drift]

all I did was give the tip that it's wasted if you recraft it with myth crests next week. If you wanna waste them you do you but stfu

[burnt oxide]

He wanted to unga bunga now, not in a week

[maiden drift]

then do that

[smoky wraith]

[smoky nacelle]

exactly who fucking cares wasting your time man chil out

[sweet flower]

HOW THOUGH

[maiden drift]

iirc there are 20 hero crests for a housing quest

Else it's hc raid

[smoky nacelle]

housing endeavor

[sweet flower]

I'm at 74 through housing, delve, all 4 nightmare prey

[smoky nacelle]

idk man

[sweet flower]

so I suppose Heroic raid is the last option

[smoky nacelle]

mathing ain't mathing

[burnt oxide]

Cant even find how to do the housing quest, did not take a single look into housing

[maiden drift]

Should be in front of the bank in silvermoon

[round maple]

hello all ! Can someone help me with the Crucible of Erratic Energies trinket, it show ingame 125 crit proc, but Raidbot take it from 214 crit proc... i don't understand... thx mates

[burnt oxide]

Ye but how i start endeavor tho, i have like 0 clue about the whole system and cant find in neigbourhood

[sweet flower]

Marv you have serious reading comprehension issues ngl

[crisp estuary]

Does weapon type (Mace vs Sword vs Polearm) matter for Fury in Midnight? I see different damage ranges on the crafted 2H weapons. Is there a 'Best in Slot' weapon type now, or is it just for transmog?

[maiden drift]

I just do 3 things at the same time

xd

[maiden drift]

nope it's whatever

[burnt oxide]

Weapon type and range didnt matter since cata, i would say

[forest ginkgo]

Yeah as slayer fury

[burnt oxide]

Slurry

[warm crag]

Dps is the same pick based on tmog

[forest ginkgo]

Slurry

[south kayak]

That's incorrect. The cooler the weapons looks, the more damage it does

[crisp estuary]

ok, if I crafft the mace is good sure?

[umbral gull]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1413197405561819256/reaptech.gif

Pls blizzard i beg put back slayer in m+

[echo rapids]

I still miss it

[rare garnet]

wait till WW bro we got this

[umbral gull]

I like womens i cant play thane pls blizzard pls

[silk fjord]

Is there any logical reason why these wbosses never drop an item that's for my fucking class lol

[rare garnet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/huh-steve-brule-dr-kc0kqKNFu7v35gPkwB

[south kayak]

Because they drop warbound items

[silk fjord]

Like, in karesh I literally never got an item for my warrior

[silk fjord]

I know but why lmao

[spare steppe]

Aren’t moss world bosses you aren’t guaranteed for a drop

[knotty hill]

do you happen to have the talent build you used still

[odd crater]

Not at home, and don’t have it saved anywhere

[silk fjord]

Idk dude it's just annoying geting a 253 item for a class I'll never play instead of my warrior

Just a weird design

At least let me choose

[warm crag]

arent these world bosses guaranteed to drop an item just a warbound one

its better than not dropping an item at all

[smoky vale]

[silk fjord]

Technically true, it's just sad

[warm crag]

idk its just the group loot vs personal loot argument again

[fallen solstice]

So with Slayer, we are OF in our Rek window instead of before CDs. Is that because we want to press it after blade storm, or we just want extra rage for more ramps?

[warm crag]

either u see smth u dont want so u get mad or u just dont loot anything

[spare drum]

craft 2h now or wait for enough hero crest? 🙂

[silk fjord]

Can't you just recraft?

[spare steppe]

Crest now with no crests, recraft with mythic next week

[warm crag]

you shouldnt put hc crests into a weapon

[burnt oxide]

Can craft without and recraft one with myth as soon as possible

[spare drum]

ah true, thanks guys

[quiet skiff]

is algathar box still a bis trinket ? because in sim it is bad but i think the USE isnt included ?

[tepid lily]

Can I just recraft my weapon with hero crests

it's so easy

[warm crag]

you can if you want to waste crests to blast week 1 hc parses

[digital steppe]

is arms alot worse than fury at the moment?

[dusk spade]

On topic of crafting, are enchants lost when recrafted?

[winter shoal]

On most fights yes

[winter shoal]

No

[digital steppe]

what about in M+ vs raid

[winter shoal]

Arms does big aoe dam in M+ but healer dps on bosses I think

@radiant plank please advise

[rotund ginkgo]

do we all craft weapons then

[digital steppe]

on goy

[digital steppe]

im not even max level yet, so any insight you can provide is huge

[lean osprey]

I can slam all my champion crests with no worries since m+ is out next week right?

[winter shoal]

Technically you can get champ gear from m0 that might be better to send crests on than what you have now

But yeah more or less

[unreal onyx]

are we really not supposed to use RB in aoe at all, rather use ww?

[unreal onyx]

says rb is used for thane

[tiny sonnet]

What crests do we use to make a weapon? I heard one was a waste and couldn't remember

[winter shoal]

None, just 4 sparks

[tiny sonnet]

Thank you!

[robust viper]

worth using the catalyst for the champ tier helm?

[winter shoal]

you'll recraft with myth crests once you have them

[winter shoal]

If it gets you 4p

[unreal onyx]

[dry halo]

Thank you this is helpfull

i was/am so confused about what to use xD

[junior gale]

You summed it up

[gray plume]

Question gang. Guildies are saying to hold on crafting weapon till vault but im seeing alot of you guys crafting the 2h. Then recrafting. Do I just full send craft or wait

[winter shoal]

For fury, it's pretty safe to craft 2h

If you get a better weapon, you can just offhand your crafted one

[gray plume]

Word! Thanks

[chilly sapphire]

Hmm, do you get more gilded crests if you map a 11 delve?

[brittle crow]

non

map gives heroic crests does it not

[median cypress]

How many targets are needed for clap to be better than bb

[sullen dove]

7

[median cypress]

Ty

[turbid spruce]

whats the best status for the drum trinket?

[sullen dove]

Probably crit or haste or something but figure it’s replaced p early

Unless u got like a champ/hero one or something

[turbid spruce]

ok

[sullen dove]

otherwise idk there’s prolly some way to sim them all at once but eh

[radiant plank]

idk my arms does top dps on bosses

[ocean ore]

Yall playing thane for the double dragon fight?

[hardy shuttle]

Thane felt good

[stable crescent]

Orc Racial provides Attack Power, does that do anything anymore?

[gray plume]

Looking at logs i saw a mix of slayer and thane for dragon fight

[warm crag]

7

[haughty carbon]

hello, we need to craft the sword first or the axe droppin from voidspire ?

[south kayak]

It gives you more attack power

[median cypress]

Is it 7 for both TB > BB and TC > BT?

[stable crescent]

and Attack Power scales the value of Strength stat? Unsure how it works I guess is a better question.

[young swan]

yeah shit cranks

[south kayak]

a lot of aoe I presume?

[warm crag]

spawns like a billion little shits

[young swan]

yeah

and they need to die fast

u just hold cds for every set

big clappa

p3 is constant 2t cleave

also big clappa

[warm crag]

no cd on pull?

[young swan]

if u cd on pull it desyncs for like

5 min

its ass i think

[warm crag]

i will do my job to anti sandbag fury and get it nerfed like tww s1

[young swan]

eventually it works again but its just not worth imo

[warm crag]

im like 20 ilvls behind gg

[south kayak]

I've seen people say gg fury getting nerfed but this is nothing close to how was in nerubar lol

[limpid tide]

hopefully they just nerf thane

slayer on top please

[south kayak]

Disgusting

Both have their palces in the raid

[fallen solstice]

Dks are calling for everyone 's heads rn

[feral ivy]

Is there a massive difference in dps with someone with the wrong stats and person with great stats?

[south kayak]

Why are you asking for a thane nerf in the first raid they're played lol

Thane hasn't been played in the entirety of TWW

aside from one shitty boss

[young swan]

2

i guess 3

[warm crag]

die thane

[south kayak]

2 out of like 30 bosses

yay

[warm crag]

3 too many

[young swan]

silken, stix, OAB, dh council

4

even

[south chasm]

Because theres alot of soys that play wow. They cry about everything

[warm crag]

sneaking oab and council in there as bosses fury would see at all is brave

[south kayak]

lmao

[young swan]

okay im not counting "bosses that fury is good at" im counting "bosses where fury plays thane"

[south kayak]

Stix and council are the only ones that were actually worth it

[young swan]

wrong

[south chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/soyboy-crying-soy-star-star-wars-gif-16593810

[young swan]

u would have just played arms on council and no warrior on oab

[limpid tide]

as that being said i am learning thane today lol

[warm crag]

ya thane is good rn

[south kayak]

"small little adds that need to die fast"

https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158

[limpid tide]

Does thane bind reck and avatar into 1

[south kayak]

Yes

[young swan]

u can

[south kayak]

They have the same cd

[young swan]

theres no reason not to

[south kayak]

Dragons or Spider boss

what's better

[brittle crow]

dragons seems like the only dangerously mid fight

i like every other fight

[south kayak]

Yeah Dragon has a lot of shit going on

[young swan]

dragons on heroic was the only fight that i actually enjoyed

everything else was piss easy or boring or both

[flat river]

which one

[warm crag]

im confused what dragons even is is it just dimensius p3 pulls with raszageth balls and thats it

[flat river]

[brittle crow]

yea it might be cuz we only did it on normal so far so im not allowed to have opinions yet

[young swan]

just a lot of mechanics but theres a good cadence

[south kayak]

Is that the last fight?

[brittle crow]

go with whichever one you won't cap this week

[south kayak]

of VS

[young swan]

no, still got paladins and alleria

[brittle crow]

champ is hard to cap this week, hero is kinda hard to cap this week

[flat river]

was going to say

[young swan]

alleria seems okay but theres too much forced downtime

[modest condor]

oh damn someone already killed the last boss

[flat river]

but champ will make me upgrade gear

hero u save up

[young swan]

paladins is just another aids council fight

automatically suck tier

[south kayak]

So you haven't done those yet?

[placid palm]

If I didnt do enough preys in the last 2 weeks I'm just fucked?

[young swan]

nah

after we got dragons we did LFR and then finished

both will die tonight

[south kayak]

ok so there's one raid that isn't out yet, right?

[brittle crow]

we have all of heroic to prog on thursday

what's the prospect

[south kayak]

What's the name of the last raid

[young swan]

i think if you only got thru normal last night then it will be a tough sell to get anything past dragons

[young swan]

march on quel'danas

[south kayak]

Ok, that's not out, right?

[brittle crow]

we had a lot of downtime tbf but

you may be right

[fallen solstice]

We want a reck only bind right? There are moments where Avatar procs right before you are sending CDs. Am I wrong, it didn't seem like the avatar duration gets added, it looked like it overwrites it

[brittle crow]

MOST bosses on normal were 1 or 2 pulls tho

[south kayak]

I thought the bird boss looked cool

[warm crag]

should add to it

[south kayak]

Yeah I think it should add to it

I need to change my name lol

[warm crag]

ja clappa

[fallen solstice]

I thought so too, maybe it is my cd manager not showing the duration correctly

[warm crag]

your intuition is correct though and there are iterations where you want seperate keybinds

but for now you should just be able to macro themtogether

if you have a recording of it not adding avatar that would be useful to get it to someone that can get it fixed

[fallen solstice]

It looked like it would go to 20secs when i pressed go button with proc-atar running

[south kayak]

Even if there are situations where u wanna have seperate binds, i'm too lazy to bother with that lol

[brittle crow]

when was the last time we even wanted separate keybinds

tww s1?

[warm crag]

last time it actually mattered was probably fucking sylvanas as arms

[south kayak]

doing what to sylvanas?

[drifting token]

AM only started affecting ava now in midnight right

[south kayak]

Yep

[drifting token]

ok so right before midnight would be the last time lol

[south kayak]

It did affect it in WoD lmao but that's like 11 years ago lol

[fallen solstice]

When I get home I will check, but again I thought maybe it could be a visual thing of cd manager I didn't check top right buffs

It should be 21-23 sec if you press during proc, yeah?

[warm crag]

legion was 16 years ago let that sink in

[pliant jackal]

I mean even then you just press avatar again if it is macro together since avatar was on cd only reck would go off

[south kayak]

I don't know if that's bait or not lol

[south kayak]

Yep

[drifting token]

no fuck that sink he doesn't know the password

[fallen solstice]

But you would want to send tb charge before pressing avatar

[young swan]

legion was 26 years ago let that sink in

[warm crag]

what does it want again

[young swan]

to sing the praises of trinkets being effected by mastery and cooldowns

[pliant jackal]

Wow classic was 22 year ago let that sink in

lol what are we doing lmao

[warm crag]

battle cry draught

Holy

[young swan]

250% damage multiplier or something silly

[warm crag]

@fallen solstice oh ye youre right lol avatar doesnt add to the duration anymore

[fallen solstice]

😮

[warm crag]

you are a nerd if you care about this though

just macro them together

[south kayak]

Vanilla WoW was 34 years ago let that sink in

[fallen solstice]

I have both, we have like...5 binds 😉

And yes, I'm a giant nerd

I play wow

[pliant jackal]

Old school RuneScape was 50 years ago let that sink in

[fallen solstice]

The two 2 handers are me overcompensating

[south kayak]

Warcraft 1 was 80 years ago

[fallen solstice]

The only thing sinking in is my hairline

[gloomy sequoia]

does anyone know what boss timeline wallife1 is using by chance?

is that a liquid only timeline?

[south kayak]

Wouldn't that mean it's doing well?

it's sinking downwards

[fallen solstice]

I haven't decided

What hairline sinking in means

Your call 🙂

[drifting token]

who decides

[south kayak]

Understandable

[young swan]

probably

[fallen solstice]

A man decides, a slave obeys

[young swan]

i think its available but paywalled or something

[gloomy sequoia]

damn its so clean lol

[south kayak]

Probably some random addon customization

or it could be liquid only

[fading sky]

Slav*

[pliant jackal]

Are you talking about the atrocity stuff

[south kayak]

Why are we fighting Alleria

[young swan]

oh do you mean the boss mods?

[south kayak]

and why does this fight remind me of Sylvanas

[unborn delta]

alleria is eviel

[radiant plank]

windrunner sisters

[young swan]

or the thing where he has an actual timeline that he can put reminders into

[gloomy sequoia]

i think its the boss mods? it looks like a boss timeline

[young swan]

this?

[gloomy sequoia]

that shows what abilities the boss is casting

yes

[wheat python]

what is the best main hand enchantment right now ?

[young swan]

i think thats baseline blizzard boss mods

[south kayak]

Yeah, they are lol

They just look different

because of some customization

[gloomy sequoia]

wtfff

[fallen solstice]

I think Viagra is still the meta

[stable hound]

How does double ren'dorei enchant work on sims? Does it just increase proc chance thus having higher uptime or can they both be up at the same time?

[eager jackal]

Big difference in fury or nah after patch?

[south kayak]

a 10% difference

[gloomy sequoia]

i like that more that my bigwigs timeline lol

[south kayak]

Blizzard baseline looking better than Bigwigs is interesting

Why the fuck is Twitch pausing when I alt tab

Fucking bullshit

[young swan]

it just doubles the value of the proc

[fallen solstice]

The only thing better at padding adds than fury in q1 2026 is Twitch

[stable hound]

Cheers!

[hearty geyser]

Yo boys. Do I need to craft weapon? Or better hold

[south kayak]

Watching Alleria fight is giving me PTSD from Sylvanas mythic

This fight has a dps check

[odd crater]

I'm just preppin to go into Alleria blind tomorrow 🙂

Surely it won't be that bad

[young swan]

there is no world were u dont craft a weapon, just dont spend crests on it

until next week anyways

[inland flame]

Well ?? was pretty easy

[mint shore]

anyone know if the myth crests from Nullaeus ?? are farmable

[stiff maple]

They are not

[mint shore]

took me 11 tries, last phase is a bit shaky imo but rest relatively fine

[inland flame]

I just bought drums to lust the Ogre so I could chill at the very end and that did it in a pull. Really the main problem was getting goomba'd by damage.

[young swan]

boss starts whacking you real hard in p3

dstance seemed to solve that issue for me

[mint shore]

I just sat def stance out of adds phases, made everything but ogre easy

[inland flame]

I never went dstance unless I was in trouble but that might not have been the best idea

Me chasing Valeera's pots on the floor like my pants are on fire the entire time

[charred estuary]

Man I've come to the conclusion that they just bricked fury's gameplay for the season for me

I hate pressing rend for slayer and for thane 6+ aoe we are spamming thunder clap and overcapping again

[thorny cove]

man even as someone who got nullaeus HoF I hope it's changed in the future not even lasting a day is crazy

[charred estuary]

This is somehow feels worse than RB spam

[wicked flicker]

is slayer best for raid still then?

[inland flame]

Yeah I didn't even try until I saw the HoF filled and then it took like 7 pulls lol

[odd crater]

I play Slayer and don’t even use rend lewl

[thorny cove]

I was too undergeared to do it as prot and then did it like 3 pulls as fury

[plucky ice]

it was so easy there never should've been a hof

literally who ever isn't working today got it

[thorny cove]

yep

[pliant jackal]

Or working remote

[young swan]

u never overcap

[thorny cove]

it should've been called Unemployed Vanquisher of Nullaeus instead 💩

[charred estuary]

?

[plucky ice]

keks

[charred estuary]

Looks like a pretty cut and dry "overcap at 6"

[pliant jackal]

Gigachads getting hof during work meeting

[marble pilot]

Thats just during reck/avatar.
Outside of that you do normal stuff

[charred estuary]

Okay avatar has like 40% uptime lmfao

[charred estuary]

So is Archi's prio wrong or

[marble pilot]

I dont get the arguement though. Oh no I have to hit my higher cap aoe button when im in higher cap aoe situations

[young swan]

depends on what you perceive to be "wrong"

its written for a mass audience

anything written for a mass audience will have generalizations

[marble pilot]

Feels of a spec are personal though. I love how Thane feels this season. Slayer feels like poo though.

And its fine if you dont like tclap. I personally just dont get it

[pliant jackal]

I mean archi probably could write a 1000 word essay about the rotation

[young swan]

obviously the difference between overcapping and not isnt very high, but in practice your rotation will always be "TC > ramp > TC > ramp > TC..."

[charred estuary]

Yeah man ngl you've entirely missed the point and I don't really feel like explaining it

Well I'm glad we're not actually overcapping

[pliant jackal]

But it’s suppose to be simple

[marble pilot]

Yeah its all good. Vibes are different for everyone.
Im still trying to get the muscle memory figured out for ramp>fill>ramp>fill.
Just doesnt feel right to me

[charred estuary]

The main problem is rampage being 50 rage

[young swan]

yeah the rage cost reduction fucking sucks

not a fan

[charred estuary]

It crowds the rotation and feels bad in mass aoe bc you aren't generating blast or getting reap

Which are the only two meaningful uncapped sources of damage

I guess technically regular clap is also just as good as blast

But that's it's own whole other problem

[snow radish]

Maybe a dumb question do we play wo Avatar ? Just specced the Talents from Guide and no Avatar

[young swan]

Feel like it would be better for rampage to just consume all rage you currently have in CD's rather than a reduced amount, ofc this would require rebalancing the apex to compensate

[young swan]

slayer plays bladestorm and thane plays avatar

all there is to it

[snow radish]

Ok Roger

[charred estuary]

I really wanted some kind of auto rampage cast like what enhance has

Could have been so cool

Or have it do literally anything else

Or at the very least if 60% of our globals are rampage make rampage ruin a real talent so it feels good

[odd crater]

Did anyone get lucky and get tier drops from their raids so far?

[young swan]

i got lfr gloves

[odd crater]

I’m contemplation converting Hero chest into tier atm

[marble pilot]

I got lfr chest i think

[odd crater]

But I don’t have a 2nd piece lol

[marble pilot]

I dont remember what slot. Was right before I went to work this morning

[young swan]

catalyzing before first vault is universally a bad play

[odd crater]

I know, I know

But I wanna tier 🙁

What piece does uh… Dreamrift drop again?

[fallen solstice]

Rushing 2 piece is gigachad behavior

[marble pilot]

Imo only spend catalyst if you can complete 4piece with it

[fallen solstice]

Ofc

But if you wanna look sick...

You do suboptimal things so that you can stand over everyone else

[marble pilot]

Maybe you can argue you get a myth track piece from vault and are not doing myth raids then that could be worth. But even still probably 4 set first

[fallen solstice]

💪

[odd crater]

True, style is v-important to overall DPS

[marble pilot]

I will say armor looks much better on my haranir compared to the kultiran

[dense elbow]

[odd crater]

Don’t worry tier will surely fix Odyn’s Fury

[dense elbow]

[fallen solstice]

I loved OF with the improved whirlwind proc in tww, idr what season

[candid sorrel]

Im so perpetually sad it doesnt proc imp ww anymore

[echo rapids]

I’m honestly not looking forward to tier reducing odynns cooldown for this reason

[fallen solstice]

I'm sure it's been said before but apex talents feel like tier sets and tier sets look like spec talents

[fallen solstice]

KT is bis

[odd crater]

Tauren BIS, fuck outta here with alliance

[rare garnet]

I untalented OF just for you for normal raid

[dense elbow]

https://giphy.com/gifs/cat-sad-crying-7AzEXdIb1wyCTWJntb

[rotund ginkgo]

do u guys sim ST with slayer for droptimizer for guild?

[radiant plank]

I sim colossus ST

[rotund ginkgo]

hmmge

hmmge

idk wallahi i dont think its the play for fury

[hot shell]

cheater

[rotund ginkgo]

sim thane prot

[radiant plank]

who tf is still playing fury in this tier

[rich palm]

So are people just playing thane for everything now?

[drifting token]

just the smart ones

[rich palm]

Is it the build from wowhead?

[drifting token]

of course

[marble pilot]

I am. Slayer might be better on some raid fights cause the burst windows are better. But im not in the RWF so im gunna vibe on thane as long as I can

[rich palm]

yeah i may try slayer for a bit on normal 😅

[winter axle]

Ok so I a dog shit fury warrior. Who wants to help me not be shit?

[rare garnet]

Stop think. Press button. No think. Zug.

[rotund ginkgo]

wait

am i tripping

do we NOT lose any ST

is it improved meat cleaver vs enraged regen?

[fallen solstice]

Revvez you crazy bastard

[marble pilot]

Yeah lol

[rotund ginkgo]

wclogs ALL the fights have meat cleaver

[winter axle]

My goal is to keep enrage up with rampage and keep rend on the target right? So after opener it would be like rend and then rampage with like 2 abilities in between rampage and executing when it procs?

[rotund ginkgo]

talents DONT change

[marble pilot]

Cause you dont really need enranged regen. Dstance/spell reflect are very good

[rotund ginkgo]

no im aware

im saying

theres no damage loss

from keeping improve ww now

[dapper goblet]

warrior sandbags yet again

cant keep getting away with it

[fallen solstice]

Revezz dropped massacre for Regen 😮

[rotund ginkgo]

gonna remove OF

[rare garnet]

Correct we’re frost DKS

[drifting token]

Giving way too much attention to rend. If you're thane you dont press rend at all, tclap does it for you. If you're slayer you lose a tiny decimal value of dps by ignoring it. And BT is your main priority.

[fallen solstice]

This is the way

[rotund ginkgo]

@rare garnet that implies we're good

incorrect

[winter axle]

Thank you

[rare garnet]

Better than DKs

Were the NuDKs

[fallen solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/fred-durst-limp-bizkit-nu-metal-nu-metal-gif-9491384260627428796

[marble pilot]

Yall seen any MM hunters in m+ they do crazy numbers

Saw something about 1 target is ~100k but 2 targets is 250k and it just keeps going up

[rare garnet]

MM cranks in burst

[outer coyote]

what build we running in raid lads

[wary salmon]

Listen here. Trick for fury is this. Soon as you pop them coolies hit a bloodbath to get it rollin. That shit PUMPS youll end up hitting it more. The more you hit blood bath the longer itll tick on the boss. My shit ass 227 ilvl was beating 240+

Its gooood dps. Most of my damage

[fallen solstice]

<.<

[rare garnet]

Listen here. Trick for fury is this. Soon as you pop them coolies hit a bloodbath to get it rollin. That shit PUMPS youll end up hitting it more. The more you hit blood bath the longer itll tick on the boss. My shit ass 227 ilvl was beating 240+

[winter axle]

Ok so now that I know rend is pretty useless, do I pop cds as they come up or do I want to hold them till they are all up?

[drifting token]

Again that'll depend if youre slayer or thane, thane's cds all line up with each other and are sent together, slayer is a little different

[wary salmon]

Loooool

[winter axle]

Im slayer for now in raid. Im prot in m0 so

[marble pilot]

Never hold cooldowns for longer than a couple seconds if it lines up with a damage window.
Send em the second you can almost always.

[fallen solstice]

@dense elbow @rare garnet revvez on dragons

[sullen dove]

Yea this was rly cringe on normal

[young swan]

its the same on heroic

[sullen dove]

thought surely be ethical but nope 0 aoe

[fallen solstice]

Holding OF for adda but sending CDs on pull

[sharp nacelle]

Where can i see talents for fury?

[young swan]

wowhead.com

[young swan]

i think this is wrong

[sharp nacelle]

Unable to access it

[young swan]

you're more likely to lose an OF vs a set of cd's

[fallen solstice]

I will be doing as the goat does

[young swan]

maxroll or icyveins then, if neither of those work i can provide import codes

[fallen solstice]

Even if it's wrong

[sharp nacelle]

Please mate for ST and M+

[winter shoal]

didn't archi update the #dps-faq

[echo rapids]

I know this is an insane idea but d stance does in fact reduce your damage

[young swan]

it says it was updated but boss names are out of date so /shrug

[winter shoal]

#1273899855852339200 message

[young swan]

#1273899855852339200 message should have stuff

[winter shoal]

raid builds are under M+ link smh

[marble pilot]

Can tank some otherwised fatal stuff with dstance though. And the uptime from doing that can be a dps gain

[young swan]

oopsie!

[marble pilot]

Cant say I have done it often but it has happened

[young swan]

is revvez even live?

[fallen solstice]

No idea

I'm just looking at logs timeline

[marble pilot]

I usually just rely on spell reflect/victory rush. And having more hp than other dps cause we are fury.

[sharp nacelle]

They are empty once i import them

[fallen solstice]

Are you level 90?

[winged hill]

Hi, are we doing good in this patch or Fury needs a buff ASAP?

[winter axle]

If im doing slayer in raid do I ww between every attack on 2+ targets?

[marble pilot]

Every 5th attack. WW buffs the next 4 hits.

[winter axle]

Oh nice

[marble pilot]

Might change later if the 0.5 patch goes through but for now the next 4 hits are all cleaved

[winter axle]

I appreciate the help guys 🙂

[pure wind]

anyone knows if these are any good for raid?

[marble pilot]

As long as you are hitting things quickly you'll pick the rest up over time.
For someone learning the difference between doing execute before bloodbath or the reverse is not the end of the world.

Stay enranged. Keep cleave stacks going when you need em. Click the priorty as best you can and add the nuance over time.

[young swan]

crucible is good until you get raid trinkets, no idea about the other one

looks like a delve trinket

so probably ass

gives speed instead of secondary or primary

[sullen dove]

also need to get all 3 buffs for crucible to not be donkey

[young swan]

cant be good

[turbid fog]

I wonder

Is the 400 champ crests enough to obsolete champs this week

🤔

[young swan]

yeah

everyone i know has just been sending them (as long as it makes sense)

400 is a lot and they're grindable from delves

[echo rapids]

This week? Doesn’t seem like it

[young swan]

maybe not obsolete but you definitely arent holding them like ur holding hero/myth

[teal valve]

Should i trust 100% on the raidbots ? i got the mastery box and its saying that the renowm champion trinket its 1.9% better on st 5 minutes

[fallen solstice]

Most champ upgrades I've seen are just veteran crest 6/6 up to 250

[young swan]

puzzlebox sucks

[fallen solstice]

Typically anyways

[teal valve]

makes sense

[terse ether]

what to picklol 😄

[teal valve]

Hero i think

[loud field]

hey warrior gamers

how yall doin

[turbid fog]

Defo feel like VET crests can be obsoleted

[lofty lotus]

anyone has a build for raid + cleave?

[oblique thistle]

Wowhead

[wet pendant]

is there any real difference between sword / axe / mace 2h for fury ?

[drifting token]

No

[candid sorrel]

Visual

[lofty lotus]

massive difference

[wet pendant]

xd

[lofty lotus]

one is cool one is not

[candid sorrel]

Hammer go bonk

[wet pendant]

i mean i transmog polearms so doesn't matter

xd

[lofty lotus]

im bonking boss soon!

!

[median dust]

^really like that fight.

[lofty lotus]

any tips for me?

[median dust]

tik tak toe boss

[lofty lotus]

i hope im near the top in dps ;d

[inland flame]

hit boss very hard hit adds very hard don't stand in the march and never forget to swag out

[median dust]

just spend.. Fury cooldowns come up every add phase it seems.

[lofty lotus]

use cd's on pull or wait?

[median dust]

so incoming nerfs due to timing

lol

[marble pilot]

Generally CDs asap. Unless in the next 5 seconds or so there is a burst window/add phase

[median dust]

^^

[lofty lotus]

what does that mean????

[median dust]

Spend on pull and cd

[lofty lotus]

oki

[median dust]

adds will be up for cd.. Lot's of adds this season on bosses tbh. Fury gonna be eating good

[tepid lily]

this thrinket doesn't appear in bloodmallet

but it's quite decent

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/g5dx3j1BLFZ1DtgQqLAZ1p

[lofty lotus]

WTF

61k dps

thats 10k more than me

[marble pilot]

Are you 250?

[tepid lily]

i'm 251 ilvl

[marble pilot]

Ilvl is everything right now

[lofty lotus]

241

[tepid lily]

ilvl makes a lot of difference

[marble pilot]

in full bis we are at ~100k

But we are no where near full bis right now

ilvl>all for the next 2 weeks or so. At least for most players

[lofty lotus]

i like that even if i dont get bis item i can guilt free upgrade it

[marble pilot]

Maybe longer depending on content you do

[lofty lotus]

till i get my bis item

[tepid lily]

idk why in the sim it says 250, but i'm 251

I need better thrinkets fml

[fallen solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/kuzco-kronk-yzma-right-wink-gif-22358009

[echo rapids]

Did all of normal as thane, surprised to see so many slayers in the top logs

[median dust]

Adds and how frequent they come

[echo rapids]

Felt like they lined up with avatar really well

But I guess they did die fast on normal

[marble pilot]

Well last week wernt we saying slayer for raid. I think on wowhead it still says slayer for raid preferred

So if people are just going off that it makes sense

[fallen solstice]

Yeah they die fast RN

But it's group dependent

[echo rapids]

Heroic tonight might be slower

[median dust]

BS gets more dps on adds than Thane

before the poof

[fallen solstice]

Once they can live, claps will get more value

Surely

[marble pilot]

Yeah if adds die during 1 bladestorm then bladestorm will always win.

[proper cliff]

i got a hero bracers, so for the second craft i need to get a specific gear or just the lower ilevel?

[river nimbus]

I think they added per boss spec suggestions on the fury guide the past day or so. which is Slayer and Thane in raid.

I used those and parsed pretty decent.

[marble pilot]

I plan to just camp thane for the most part. If we hit a dps wall that slayer is better at then swap

[fallen solstice]

Yeah thane felt great yesterday regardless

[median dust]

I'm staying Thane till whirlwind addd Rend lol. Just hate hiting the button atm.

[marble pilot]

Ima be honest I dont have rend bound on my slayer bars

I just ignore it lol

[granite elbow]

thane feels good

[median dust]

It's a lot of dps missed out on for pulls like AA

[granite elbow]

also the sfx for thunder clap/strikes is great

[marble pilot]

But I almost never am in slayer. Been Thane basically since midnight dropped

[median dust]

I literally would rather play arms then hit rend on slayer fury atm lol

Might be the most unnatural key press I've ever experience.. Feels like I"m hitting 3 globals.

[fallen solstice]

I was trying to figure out what boss this was but you are talking about m0

[lofty lotus]

top dps boys!

[fallen solstice]

I dunno if I could bring myself to press it

[marble pilot]

Thats a lot of dead people

[lofty lotus]

yeah had to kill em for more dmg

[sullen dove]

game

[marble pilot]

looks good though. Be better at tic tack toe

[median dust]

It's a lot of dps lost on boss fights too.. Probably not in normal raid though

[lofty lotus]

gawd damn

thats hawt

[fallen solstice]

Is that true?

[median dust]

Fury def eating good this raid. Would be surprised if we didn't get war within heroic week nerfed again tbh

[winter shoal]

carried by 4p

[sullen dove]

2pc only

i am poor

[winter shoal]

carried by 2p

[sullen dove]

need to pvp

[last lichen]

I was pretty happy with fury during normal clear

[echo rapids]

Yeah I crushed on first boss

[sullen dove]

whats fastest way to get to 1600

is soloshuffle just good?

[median dust]

Not using a 15 sec uncapped bleed on any class would be a big dps loss imo

[winter shoal]

Fury very good at killing low-health adds

[next mica]

isint thane better then slayer on fights like the triple paladin guys?

[echo rapids]

But they all feel fine

[vapid spade]

Huge Normal Trinket 😁

[winter shoal]

gonna get shot for it like in nerubar palace

[winter shoal]

Yes

[winter shoal]

W

[last lichen]

fr! the twin dragon boss, i was skyrocketing in dps with the adds that come out lol

[median dust]

def better on sustain multi targets. but for fights with adds that have 100 health.. go with slayer imo

[sour elbow]

Sorry if I missed this but anyone having a puzzle box not out sim ANYTHING right now? Is the sim goofed for it?

[echo rapids]

Our aoe burst was better I think we’ll be ok

[dry ether]

what weapon enchant we should use?

[winter shoal]

sim it but probably acuity of the rendorei or arcane mastery

[fallen solstice]

You be right, definitely isn't looking that way from logs

But surely I'm being baited by them

[river nimbus]

I ended up with this thing - was warbound before upgrading it LOL

[winter shoal]

blizzard tunes around this chart without an ounce of critical thinking applied

[lofty lotus]

boys!

[echo rapids]

The tail on that arms chart lol

[median dust]

sad how true this is lol..

[proper parcel]

Grats

[marble pilot]

Bro just casually adds 50% to his dps in between 2 pulls

[lofty lotus]

SHHHH

im only warrior in my guild

[warm crag]

is that real

[odd crater]

What happened to all the cracked damage feral Druids were supposed to pump

[echo rapids]

People didn’t apply their brain power

[radiant plank]

Buddy they got their internal data

[warm crag]

is the internal data in the room with us

[echo rapids]

Raid where every fight has adds and multiple fights have periodic groups of low health adds is a fury paradise

[radiant plank]

Ansurek HC week

[echo rapids]

We have a shot, the last fight doesn’t have much aoe outside of p1

[median dust]

Just need RWF to ignore warrior and we good

[echo rapids]

Does damage to the tiny void spawns count?

[odd crater]

My guild is doing Dreamrift, Alleria, then into HC Thursday. Am excite

[civic hemlock]

Yo are the talents on maxroll still good for the raid?
https://maxroll.gg/wow/class-guides/fury-warrior-raid-guide

[warm crag]

alleria could be a banger fight

[last lichen]

hope so :3

[south kayak]

Even Normal looks nice

reminds me a lot of Sylvanas fight

Similar encounter space

[winter shoal]

Just being afk in the intermission is wack

rest of the fight is cool tho

[winter shoal]

We don't know what the last fight is

[south kayak]

There was a lot of afking in Sylvanas intermission too

[full rivet]

Sorry if this has been asked 100 times, but where does Puzzle Box fit into the rotation? Soooooooo excited for this to be one of our BiS 😐

[south kayak]

Before CDS I assume

[winter shoal]

puzzyb isn't that good for us

[south kayak]

Maybe that's all he has, Bigbowwl

Have you thought of that??

[full rivet]

So on pull, how does that look? Box before charge? Charge->Box??

[winter shoal]

I mean fair enough, they said "one of our BIS" though

[south kayak]

You're right

[south kayak]

I'm gonna say Puzzle - Charge

I could be wrong though

[echo rapids]

Oh I thought he meant crown of the cosmos

[full rivet]

Yeah because we want that rage gen directly into our cds

[south kayak]

Alleria is Crown of the cosmos