fury

[sudden tusk]

plenty of time

[fading sky]

Yup also st vs aoe depends a bit on what ends up mets after nerf///buffs

If uhdk isnt pulled back... weeeel

[fiery edge]

man this whole expac is about pally?

[spring pumice]

How is fury leveling? Looking for an alt

[fiery edge]

it's aight

[vernal jungle]

for thane aoe, is there any chance gathering clouds could be better then thorim's might? cuz more possible burst of power and av procs

[sour frigate]

good

[fading sky]

i mean leveling is free anyways so far ( im only 85)

[chrome plover]

is there any special weapons i wanna be able to craft early? or is it the same as normal (all weapon types are equal)

[sudden tusk]

wep is probably the best bet becuase our BiS comes from the 5th boss or the 2 boss raid which will be late/ hard to get

but if you wana play the long game depending on how much damage you lose for not having a mythic wep and or vault rng crafting cloack/back will also be a viable option

i havent looked at it myself i think they did some tuning around trinkets/embels so that will be more of a TC question once they decide to mess with it

[fading sky]

Revvez bislist so far has crafted weapon as bis

dno

[fast mural]

4sparks

[sudden tusk]

is it on maxroll again

havent checked idk if they still have a contract with them

[slim coral]

Bro max roll is wrong sometimes

They had BB in the rotation once when we didn’t even go ra

[sudden tusk]

oh theres another buff embelishment for weps i didnt know about

makes sense

[modern void]

random question, anyone had the proffession knowledge drop from world treasures?

[sudden tusk]

no

not in til full launch p sure

[modern void]

or can see treasures in voidstorm

[sudden tusk]

idk some of it makes sense some of it doesnt

[modern void]

ah cheers madox

you can get a treatise made before reset btw

[sudden tusk]

like there are mastery/guarenteed leech pants in the second raid tier im suprised we arent on his list

[sudden tusk]

hmmmmmmmmmmmge

time to public order

[modern void]

yep, tipped 4k and that got it

the vial i cannot find at all

also got a 230 axe from a wq

[sudden tusk]

the vial location isnt showing right on the map. also go do your darkmoon faire

vial on a cart where im at

[modern void]

cheers on the vial location

wait isnt that map zul aman

its the eversong one im missing

[valid pulsar]

is one of the darkmoon trinkets any good for fury ?

[sudden tusk]

oh oops im dumb uh i dont remember where that one is. just that the za one was in the wrong spot mb

[upper mica]

we back to running thane in dungeons?

[valid pulsar]

i have way more fun with slayer

[molten wing]

right now you can go either

[upper mica]

from what i can see its thane for m+ and slayer for raid

[warm crag]

up in the air until its week 2 of mythic and tuning is done

[valid pulsar]

to me right now thane feels meh slayer feels so much better to play but maybe its just me

[warm crag]

historically theyve liked slayer for raid and thane for m+ though so thats probably what its gonna be

[sudden tusk]

Thanes rotation priority is very weird

harder to play then slayer for sure

[valid pulsar]

yeah thats what i meant

[upper mica]

im struggling to prio BT/BB over things tbh

[fiery edge]

Slury

[valid pulsar]

we can just send these heroic dungeon crests right ?

[tardy matrix]

delete arms, buff fury

win/win

[modern void]

location is showing as unknown even on wowhead, safe to assume its possibly bugged

[fading sky]

ofc but usually when revvez posts gear, its pretty based on the time of release as well, pending changes

[warm crag]

you are boring and small

[dense mica]

whats the best specc without sets for now?

[sullen tendon]

The answer to these questions is always fury

[tropic inlet]

S3 fury slayer ..

[dense mica]

sorry, i meant talent pointwise 😄

[hollow leaf]

what does that mean

[warm crag]

you have found one counter example well done

[restive walrus]

Did yall play thane when lvling?

[teal badge]

Yo wasn't this a WA previously? Did it get turned into an add-on, and can you share the name?

[tight roost]

rarescanner should help

[modern void]

myu's knowledge points tracker

[teal badge]

Awesome thanks!

[fading sky]

Slayer

Feels better in openworld

100% feels nothin matters

[unreal onyx]

Been away for the week, whats the fastest way to lvl in midnight rn?

Just doing campaign or campaign + Dungeons?

[restive walrus]

Did you just use the delve/open world build for slayer on wowhead?

[fading sky]

Tbh just i guess m+ build // own cook

Aint rly lookin at builds levelin

Iknow bt is bis, so i take the talents that improve bt

And make sure i have reap in the hero class tree

[fiery edge]

i like slayer

[fading sky]

Slayer slays

[dense elbow]

Apparently delve mob spam

[fading sky]

I mean 1st char

Id do quests to get rep

For the 3 or is it 4 m0 items?

That way alts are gettin 4 pieces as well

[fiery edge]

recommend to complete delve call with wm

[fading sky]

And at 89 i turn in all my dungeon qs//delve quests

Is my plan

But y if delves arenr fixxes twice as fast

[upper dew]

Man i feel so weak atm, Sucks :p

[unborn delta]

Yea we hella weak at 90 with 170ilvl

At 215 it feels a little better but not much

[upper dew]

I've just hit 210 but sheesh it's tough going

Getting smoked by mages

[rare garnet]

I mean if you use 500k in consumables you can sim the same at 90 in 227 as you did at 80 luuuulz

[upper dew]

🤣

[fading sky]

I mean dont compare to specs that are tuned🤣

[upper dew]

😭

[rare garnet]

Just play with bad mages

Or invite an arms warrior

[fading sky]

Ikr

[wicked eagle]

How much better is thane than slayer in m+ it feels like absolute cheeks

[rare garnet]

They seem close enough to just play what you want

[digital mauve]

So hows slayer ? And fury in general

[brittle crow]

do 0s open today or on reset

[wheat meteor]

Are we still canceling thunderblast?

[daring laurel]

Reset according to wowhead

[brittle crow]

feels like that'd make more sense

[oblique thistle]

No

The lightning strikes make casting thunder blast valuable

[severe bough]

Should we spend our adventurer crests to upgrade our adventurer gear now. Since each tier has crests for their gear

[oblique thistle]

I have been playing slayer exclusively and really enjoy how it feels

[oblique thistle]

It really doesn't matter because you'll be replacing all of that gear pretty much instantly anyways
Perhaps some weapon upgrades if you want the little extra power boost in M0s

[severe bough]

Thank you!

[oblique thistle]

Hold off comparison until M0s at least

We also have tuning coming later this month so nothing is concrete

[upper dew]

Aye I know, It's just disheartening

Early days

[oblique thistle]

Scaling in normals is completely wack

Level 81 tanks doing more damage than god

[upper dew]

😂

[cursive hound]

Do you guys like rampage costing less now?

[peak drift]

so its not just me. i was running the introduction event and felt as if fury has a fury problem

[frank crystal]

For keys we running thane still ?

[fading sky]

U can do both

Thane a tad more aoe slayer better st

Its pretty close

[peak drift]

i feel starved at 134 80 xD

[sullen tendon]

Feels like ass because we don’t have haste yet but also the incentive to push it a lot doesn’t feel there because thundeblast bloodbath procs are better to press

The seperate stack decay thing is stupid and annoying

Hoping they have a tier set later on that makes rampage awesome and not another raging blow one

[cursive hound]

So pretty much we want to spam bloodbath and thunderblast as much as possible

[sullen tendon]

The rampage stacks fall off too fast to really take advantage of it right now

[cursive hound]

So just need a boat load of haste

[slim coral]

imagine if we had bfa haste

I would bust

[brittle crow]

friend is offering to craft me a wep if i get mats

is it too expensive to bother

or do i do it

[fickle bluff]

You can't craft purps yet
Crafting blues is pointless because you can just do world quests/hc dungeons

[brittle crow]

im gonna hit 90 like right when expac launches

not gonna have time for heroics

[pseudo violet]

Whirlwind is basically not used anymore in rotation with thunder clap coming back right?

[brittle crow]

no basically, it's replaced if ur thane

[sullen tendon]

Thunderclap replaces ww when using mountain thane. It does the exact same thing as whirlwind. Gives you meat cleaver stacks to aoe with whenever you use it. It’s just an all in one button now with thane.

Gives you stacks. Applies rend. Activates thunder blast. Activates bloodthirst procs.

[pseudo violet]

Gotcha, Thanks Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something

[sullen tendon]

Press it when it’s shiny and also press it when you can’t press bt or rampage

[pseudo violet]

So rend is also similarly not needed in a rotation or is it still used to fill in the gaps on cool downs occasionally?

[sullen tendon]

Bloodbath over thunderblast in most cases

[sullen tendon]

Never

It’s applied passively from thunder clap

[random shadow]

Bloodbath over tb?

Isn't tb better and espicallly during cds

[pseudo violet]

Okay very good to know, I saw it getting applied, didn't realize it was from TB.

[random shadow]

Espically aoe and not st?

[pseudo violet]

TB over bloodbath if it's aoe and you ran out of Whirlwind stacks, if I had to guess

Probably blootbbath over TB if St and rend is active

[sullen tendon]

I usually bb over tb if it’s 3-5 targets.

Tb stacks stay for longer than reck will be up

[slow wolf]

whats the avg ST dps for fury warrior ? (fully geared) based on beta ?

[sullen tendon]

0

[hardy shuttle]

I think TB is really just giga high prio during avatar for the bonus damage. Other than that you spend it at 2 stacks so bt doesnt have a chance to munch them. Idk tho. During all the leveling and dungeons ive just been playing via vibes

[dense elbow]

I havent checked, but you can find breakdown on Warcraftlogs.com, just scroll down through the seasons and click beta. Chose raid or m+, then sort till you find what you are looking for.
There is also the dps breakdown page (but as always it isnt 100% reliable data)

[cunning sentinel]

Lame, we can't transmog Warglaive of Azzinoth?

[dense elbow]

Only if you are a DH

[cunning sentinel]

Dumb

[dense elbow]

We got Thunder Fury tho

[olive wraith]

1h 🤮

[dense elbow]

Glaives are 1h too

[cunning sentinel]

can transmog daggers but not glaives, makes sense lol

[oblique thistle]

Completely irrelevant due to potential tuning on the 17th

Im sure fury will be fine in the raid

Arms tho

[mellow beacon]

hey guys, couple questions, is this oversight or bug or wtf with whirlwind buf give singletarget penalty, where is 100% primary target and less other targets thing?? and how we now track for example whirlwind buff stacks?

[echo rapids]

What’s funny is arms is actually quite solid to play now, if it did fury dps I think people would be happy

[smoky vale]

nope it sucks design wise

why do cs ava and demolish all desync from each other

horrendous design

[upper wigeon]

I still cant decide between slayer or thane

[echo rapids]

Oh I’m talking slayer

Colossus is crap and always will be

[upper wigeon]

Whats everyone runnin right now?

[cedar shuttle]

i find thane better

[tardy matrix]

slayer more funnerer

[mellow beacon]

slayer use bladestorm and bladestorm goes brrrrrrrrrrrrr

[hardy shuttle]

Probably a slayer raid so ive been enjoying my time with thane for now. But we probably will be playing a mix of both

[sullen dove]

Shouldn’t be any kind of single target penalty idk where u see dat

and there is an addon improved whirlwind tracker that’s about the best we got for seeing stacks but it’s def not perfect as compared to the weakaura

[ember apex]

I dont like reckless abandon and I wish we weren't forced into it. I feel like it makes my damage less consistent and more spikey at certain times.

[young swan]

the only way you'd have a ST penalty is with rampaging ruin but that only applies to rampage

[indigo girder]

there is a way for import apl ?

[sullen dove]

That’s if you run that talent which most people never do cuz it’s terrible

[young swan]

yeah thats just with rampaging ruin

and yeah what soredish said

[mellow beacon]

aight awesome thx

[young swan]

wdym

[indigo girder]

like hekili in the past ? is impossible to do rn ?

[young swan]

theres a built in option called "rotation assistant" or something similar

you might have to do some looking

[indigo girder]

but i cant import like personal apl ?

ty bro anyway

[young swan]

no

[indigo girder]

oook

[sullen dove]

more spiky like… during cooldowns perhaps?

it’s just only a good thing considering we still keep AM

[fading sky]

Wtf

This is bait right??

[young swan]

i mean its carlo

[fading sky]

Like 100% has to be

Flat dmg is always the worst u can have

[indigo girder]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTxbz0VzPWK0j2_1mNqcOGX0Lgrnha3kM6wvCgossscI08I_Hk-v1_D2crjD7h6Wo-FCrnJUn4W2CWU/pubhtml?gid=1484407191&single=true
is this the best apl ?
ty

[radiant plank]

yeah

[fading sky]

Gods forbid we can burst and use burst trinkets

Amp phases

[echo rapids]

Flat damage profile is never good unless you are just overtuned

[ember apex]

I prefer to have damage that is consistently moderately high than dips down because I had a spike during a cool down.

S2 DF era was peak for Me

[remote bobcat]

that still doesnt make it the damage profile itself good

[ember apex]

I like the 100 percent recklessness uptime

[olive wraith]

Not s3 tww?

[ember apex]

no

haste too low as well

[young swan]

https://tenor.com/view/correct-plankton-gif-14118231

[olive wraith]

I thought you liked flat profile

[ember apex]

I like feeling hasted and in bloodlust

[olive wraith]

We had high hast s3

[ember apex]

not compared to S2 DF

[olive wraith]

Pretty sure we had higher haste

Cause enrage talent

[ember apex]

we had like 100% haste in combat

[olive wraith]

In s3

[sullen dove]

why we just making up shit

[young swan]

its carlo

[sullen dove]

the hell u mean 100% haste in s2

[olive wraith]

Okay so we gained a haste talent. But lost haste

Makes sense

[sullen tendon]

Anyone who liked df s2 is wrong

[lean osprey]

The dps guides for fury in the faq all have slightly different priority for bloodthirst and bloodbath, which guide is considered to be correct?

[olive wraith]

I wouldn’t go that far

[sullen dove]

it wasn’t awful it was fine but def not better than s3 for like any reason

[ember apex]

S3 TWW? like dimensius and shit?

no brooo

[sullen dove]

no df

I mean tww s3 was also pretty flame

[sullen tendon]

I would rather have annihilator than wait 40 seconds to cast blood thirst

[olive wraith]

Not talking about it raid

[ember apex]

DF S3 had Odyns fury and reckless abandon

[remote bobcat]

ehhhhh depends on how much u wanna simplify

[sullen dove]

just held back by overwhelmed application on aoe sometimes

[olive wraith]

I was just saying s3 tww had more haste and was flatter profile than s2 df

[sullen tendon]

S2 you had to wait a minute or more to get enough stacks for bt to be worth pressing and s3 just gave you a higher damage version of that bt proc and also multiple of them.

[olive wraith]

It wasn’t a minute

[smoky vale]

only if you didnt have bs up like a noober

[sullen tendon]

It was extremely long yo wait to pres bt

[young swan]

it was like every 20-25s or something

probably less

i cant remember, but it was pretty frequent

[ember apex]

maybe but S2 DF felt more hasted

[olive wraith]

20s sounds way closer

[olive wraith]

How if you had less haste

[sullen tendon]

Just keep lowering it

[ember apex]

the 95% WA - that was fine

[remote bobcat]

btw xan u need to stream more, ur streams were always good content to watch on 2nd screen while studying

[sullen dove]

holy glaze

is he wrong though

[sullen tendon]

Fuck that wa fuck that tier set

[ember apex]

i agree, S1 DF tierset was better

more ignoreable

[young swan]

maybe, i mostly stopped cause my cpu is old and wow doesnt run very well with it anymore

[sullen dove]

It was literally like 3-4 rampages between every bt lol

[young swan]

no x3d here

[sullen tendon]

Df s1 tiers set that did nothing

[sullen dove]

hardly that much time

[olive wraith]

S1 playstyle was pretty good

Lots of execute

[sullen tendon]

0.0001% damage increase

[olive wraith]

Damage was just ass

[ember apex]

yes but arms was good in that tier too #gross

[sullen dove]

I kinda want arms to be good im sick of fury

been playin it for like a year and a half straight

last real arms time was mugzee

[ember apex]

honestly, im so digusted w/ fury gameplay right now i might play arms if its on par

[sullen tendon]

In s4 everyone just kept using s3 tier set or switched to arms because s2 set was ass to play

[sullen dove]

and even then not much

[slow wolf]

I disagree in the sense that if you are basically middle of the pack, you are not at risk of being nerfed or not even buffed. Like demonology warlock that sits at 150k is likely to be nerfed. Note that it does not apply to arm that is just getting nerfed no matter what

[sullen dove]

It wasn’t ass to play it was just ass

[ember apex]

they will never fix fury

we were supposed to get our rework in 10.0.7 before aberrus came out

[echo rapids]

True it just makes the profile usable

[sullen dove]

But s3 2pc s2 2pc was kinda goat status in amirdrassil at least

[young swan]

just went and looked, in cds it was like every 10s

[ember apex]

it hasnt been mentioned since

[remote bobcat]

yea exactly

[sullen dove]

Idk if u still did that non amirdrassil but I assume you would

[young swan]

so 20s outside cd's sounds right

[sullen dove]

Rare wow 2pc2pc moment

They think we playin genshin or some shit

[sullen tendon]

This is like increasing raptor strike on survival to a 20 second cooldown

[sullen dove]

Except not cuz survival doesn’t have a raging blow that’s ALWAYS up

[sullen tendon]

It felt like shit

[sullen dove]

and execute

[young swan]

false equivalence

but i get your sentiment

[sullen tendon]

And there were 20 other classes with meaningful sets at the time

[sullen dove]

s2 tww was basically the exact same except bt stacks came from rb instead of ramp

[young swan]

i also think its cringe to stop pressing entire buttons

[upper wigeon]

i need to get the fury rotation down

[sullen dove]

and you almost never lost globals therd

[young swan]

just like right now I think its cringe that RB is basically useless

[sullen tendon]

Fuck raging blow

[young swan]

especially in execute, but even before that

[sullen tendon]

The remove that shit from the game

[sullen dove]

They did in amirdrassil 👍

[young swan]

u can legit just juggle BT, execute and ramp and never press RB

its insane

[sullen tendon]

I would take an exact copy of raging blow to replace it as long as they don’t call it raging blow

[remote bobcat]

I like tww s1, i like old RA, give me back old RA 😇

[young swan]

i still just want RA to be a simple damage amp

[sullen dove]

What if you made a macro and put a different icon on it and named it a different name

there u go have fun

[sullen tendon]

I did that for slam in s3 df and it felt great

[young swan]

accomplishes the same shit as current RA but without making u feel like shit when you have to press buttons other than the enhanced ones

[remote bobcat]

me last season

[young swan]

i miss onslaught

[sullen tendon]

Remove all the raging blow damage increasing talents and replace them with meaningful talents that actually affect gameplay and make raging blow the I have nothing else to do button like it should be

[young swan]

we should get a capstone that turns RB into onslaught

no more charges

[ember apex]

you know what would be sick. if our M+ utility was that we can stun mobs that are normally not stunnable (minus bosses)

[young swan]

just big hit

[sullen dove]

realgi

[upper wigeon]

so we choose BT, Rampage, and Execute over raging blows?

[radiant plank]

execute but its a macro and has condemn icon

[young swan]

exactly

[ember apex]

thoughts?

[sullen dove]

miss condemn…

[upper wigeon]

[sullen dove]

Leave the kitchen

[young swan]

i use that,,,

[sullen tendon]

At that point we should just get demonology meta. All our abilities would be changing all the time

[sullen dove]

would just be like absurdly broken probably

[ember apex]

i wish there was a glyph that gave u condemn sound and animation back

[sullen dove]

and like doesn’t rly make sense or have precedent

[radiant plank]

also had slam as HS icon since DF

[young swan]

no i mean like a permanent change

like it just overrides the ability

[sullen dove]

isn’t exe animation already like condemn

[sullen tendon]

If it meant getting rid of rb I’d take it

[young swan]

yeah

[echo rapids]

Why do you hate rb so much

[sullen tendon]

Onslaught has a better animation.

[ember apex]

go back to shadowlands and look at real condemn the animation has red and black glow

[young swan]

pressed it too much in the past 2 xpacs

[ember apex]

onslaught iirc is basically rogue mutilate w/ 2hand weps tho lol

[sullen dove]

O the vfx I guess sure but the like sword swing is the same

[young swan]

its the old crushing blow animation from like mop

[ember apex]

yeah swing is the same they made that standard

[young swan]

or raging blow

something like that

[ember apex]

oh i didnt play back then so idk

[sullen tendon]

Also they need to update orc animations for fury I’m tired of swinging upwards like a tard on my biggest hitting abilities. Bt and mortal strike both do this awkward upward swing. I want the old downward smash animation back.

[ember apex]

i started in shadowlands

[ember apex]

agree im also orc

the main thing they need to fix is where we hold 2h axes and polearms

[echo rapids]

lol yeah it’s so bad

[ember apex]

we hold them so high on the handle

it should be closer to the pommel

i dont need hyper realism w/ my hand placements i want to swing a big wep

[sullen tendon]

When I get transmogrified into another race and I see their fury animations I get so jealous because they just look better

[ember apex]

ok real talk i just got a sick idea

[sullen tendon]

Night elf and troll and undead by animation is awesome

[ember apex]

undead warrior has pog anims for sure

ok hold on sick idea coming thru rn

check this out

new weapon type - Ultra Greatsword - for Arms warriors only

[echo rapids]

I wish troll looked better in plate

[ember apex]

troll sucks b/c most shoes dont cover gross feet

draneye has same problem (eww)

[hollow leaf]

I miss furious slash

[radiant plank]

no u dont

[sullen tendon]

Furious slash/wild strike has the greatest sound effect to ever grace this game

Wish it was used for bt

Or execute

Probably would for exe better

[hollow leaf]

I'm sure I have a soft spot for it because I used it during nya

and that was my first raid tier

[sullen tendon]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=100130/furious-slash#sounds

Perfect sound

[upper wigeon]

Gimme Guts greatsword

[ember apex]

i was thinking like the Fume Ultra Greatsword for dark souls 3 for example

like that size and those types of animations

make arms feel more weighty and vsceral

[drowsy heron]

yea thats a great sound, why dont we have that on anything anymore?

[echo rapids]

Arms not being blademaster already is a crime

[void rose]

How do you guys fit in whirlwind in rotation?

[echo rapids]

As thane you don’t

[ember apex]

arms should be ultra greatsword weapon type only

[echo rapids]

As slayer you whirlwind then do 4 attacks in aoe then WW again.

[ember apex]

hunters have 3 guns/bows/crossbows
DH have glaives
why not arms warr

[echo rapids]

To be fair those are usable by more than 1 spec for that class

[ember apex]

i was gonna segway into fury rework getting an ascendancy mod for ultra GS

[echo rapids]

I’d rather have a better spec with better animations and a cool unique plays style then just big weapons

Arms should use weapon swaps for different attack combos

[void rose]

Tyty

Any good guide out there?

[ember apex]

i also think one of the things u should be able to do on prot warrios is 2Handed weapon + shield

[void rose]

For talents etc

[echo rapids]

Both the wowhead and icy veins are updated

[void rose]

I’ll check it out

[echo rapids]

This is pretty good, just get 1 handers out of our class entirely

I want arms to do like 5 attack combos and then weapon swap

Like the 2 hand sword does a bunch of bleeds and single target then you swap to the hammer for big aoe

[hybrid yew]

do you guys actually incorporate Rend in your rotations?

[drowsy heron]

in AoE yes for Slayer, for ST its more of a filler

[hybrid yew]

makes sense for AoE..

[echo rapids]

Not having to manually use it for thane is a big pro

[hybrid yew]

slayer still feels good in Dungeons now though with Reap the Storm

but not sure overall if that or MT thunderclap spam is better

[drowsy heron]

generally Thane is stronger for dungeons, especially ones with multi target bosses. Slayer is better in dungeons with all ST bosses

[pale sable]

is it only me or is the reap of storm animation delayed after using the sudden death proc?

[sullen dove]

i mean by like a second or so yeah

psure reaps always been delayed like that kinda

unless you think its much more than usual

[upper wigeon]

Gimme the Curved Dragon Greatsword from DS2

[pale sable]

guess it works as intended but feels odd and not fluently

[ancient crown]

do you guys use any addon to track what stance you're in?

[ember apex]

mhmm nodders~1

why dont my emotes link right

omg

[runic violet]

How do you all track WW stacks?

I miss weak aura 🙁

[sullen dove]

improved whirlwind tracker addon

best we got

even if still kinda mid

[ember apex]

there's a tracker built in w/ the game now

[sullen dove]

or set that up if you want yea

[runic violet]

I'm looking for it. where would it be

[silver thunder]

Does fury feel weak to anyone else?

[ember apex]

i wish i knew off the top of my head but there's like a utlity tracker module built into the game

buff tracking maybe

and look for that

[river willow]

Do the guides cover bloodthirst prio outside recklessness

I didn't see it

[upper wigeon]

goated

[ember apex]

idk why it does that

[runic violet]

I think it's under "advaned cooldown settings"

[upper wigeon]

@ember apex i need to get better at fury played arms for so long

[sullen dove]

whats the best lock spec for leveling

usually a destro fan but i think demo is kinda goodge? dont mind playing that too

[hybrid yew]

not sure if you're in the right neighborhood, but as for warlocks i feel like Demo is always easiest for leveling

where we at in performance? middle of the pack? i was barely keeping up with a ret paladin the other day

[runic violet]

Hmm I think I like this whirlwind tracker

[sullen dove]

probably round middle mid-high but there could be a lot of gear discrepancy right now

[upper wigeon]

theres a tracker???

[hardy shuttle]

Even going from like 190 ilv to 220 felt like my damage tripled. I think its mostly a gear issue atm

[runic violet]

yea search "whirlwind" on curseforge

[silk wharf]

You can use the dedicated "improved whirlwind tracker" or Sensei bars also has one.

[hardy shuttle]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/iwt-improved-whirlwind-tracker-simplified

[runic violet]

lol it even counts it for you

[silk wharf]

IWT accounts for the delay from rampage as well as the delay in charges gained from thunderclap. The Sensei version only accounts for rampage but it still has the delay in charges from Tclap.

[dense elbow]

We at high-mid tier, we are one bump up to high and we will be a lot better (comparably) when outliers get knocked down

We will struggle with the basic:
We great for PuG rush runs

kinda low value for premades

We got no CDs no nothing to play around, we got no niche and no strength.

Flipside, we got no weakness, and our flat dam profile makes us always functional no matter pullsize/pattern

[sullen dove]

you gotta stop saying we're flat

our cds are op

[dense elbow]

we flat, our CDs aint OP, I flatly refuse that take

[sullen dove]

ok

[young swan]

reck is really strong 😭

i dont get this take

[dense elbow]

Not calling it weak, just not bursty

[young swan]

u can say bladestorm sucks and thats like kinda true if you ignore unhinged

but reck is strong

[sullen dove]

yea its just bladestorm yap lol

[dense elbow]

I dont think our cooldowns are "overpowered", I dont think they are weak

there is a middle ground here

I think our profile is flat, and I think we aint bursty

[sullen dove]

they're the strongest they've been since like last season of df but yeah ofc some classes cds are way better

[dense elbow]

doent mean we are weak or dam low

[sullen dove]

its not a meta or army of the dead or something

[dense elbow]

Sure, but remember, I am talking burst

not value over 20 sec

[young swan]

how is this not bursty

like what

we are literally peaks and valley's

[dense elbow]

cause those spikes are small, they basically not at all

[drowsy heron]

thats not really bursty, its flat in relation to most classes in the game

[dense elbow]

you are like a dane, looking at your hill going "that tall"

while I am a norwegian

we got different perspectives

[young swan]

patently false, this was s3

you guys just have no clue what ur talking about

[upper wigeon]

ooooooh

[dense elbow]

Did you just compare us to the flattest of flats?

[upper wigeon]

im awful at tracking them lmao

[drowsy heron]

ok, what does a actual burst class graph look like?

[dense elbow]

That is his example of a burst profile, tho

[young swan]

it doesnt matter, we are objectively a bursty spec

[drowsy heron]

cause i can almost guarantee its going to have massive spikes

[young swan]

like from an empyrical standpoint, we arent flat

[drowsy heron]

all classes are bursty by your definition

[final birch]

fury is definition of a flat spec

this is bursty

[dense elbow]

Are we going by "earth is techincally not perfectly round, so it aint round"?

Cause that logic is wack

[young swan]

this is unhealthy burst

[final birch]

your definition of not bursty means literally no cooldowns whatsoever

[young swan]

no flat means flat

[dense elbow]

No, that is burst

[drowsy heron]

thats subjective

[final birch]

which is straight up logically impossible in this game

[young swan]

burst means majority damage in cooldowns

[drowsy heron]

no it doesnt lol

[young swan]

which we have

[dense elbow]

Nah, everyone does more dam in CDs, if they last 5 sec or 50sec

by that logic, all classes in this game has forever been bursty

[drowsy heron]

exactly, by his definition any classes that has higher damage during certain windows is bursty

which is literally every class in any game really

[dense elbow]

It is a matter of perspective

[final birch]

by your definition this is bursty

[dense elbow]

Xan feels what he feels, I just hard disagree

[final birch]

because ff mage is >50% of time in comb

[drowsy heron]

pretty sure everyone disagrees

[remote bobcat]

i think this definition is wonky xan, every spec in the game does most damage during cds compared to outside of cds but we still categorize specs as being bursty vs non bursty

[young swan]

not at all, this is a completely different graph

[drowsy heron]

and when your talking about class design like we are you have to compare it to other classes in the game

[young swan]

you're showing something closer to fury s3 tww

[final birch]

majority of damage done in cooldowns

[drowsy heron]

we are a flat dps class in relation to most classes in the game

[final birch]

fire mage is mostly in cds

therefore most of their damage is done in cds

that's kind of your definition

[dense elbow]

To be fair, to avoid xan's problem with semantics, or his definition. We could use "explosive burst" as the term, as burst apparently doesnt mean "damage done in a burst, aka: small window of time", but "in an indefinte amount of times, as long it is a CD in this game"

So, I want more explosive burst, and the "delayed burst window from CD strenght" is not doing it for me

[young swan]

burst in wow has always been in reference to how strong you are in cd's vs outside of them 😭 how is a 50% increase in damage in vs out of cd's not bursty

[sullen dove]

why is myrtu a sprout

[dense elbow]

Didnt myrt quit way back?

prob just back for midnight

[desert cloud]

Buh

[sullen dove]

buhsac

[final birch]

uh

i played all 3 seasons in tww

at most i'm just back to dps

[desert cloud]

I quit the game when fury turned into complete trash in tww

[sullen dove]

so in s2?

[final birch]

just left most of wow discords at the end of tww because it was cluttered

[sullen dove]

it was peak s1 and s3

[desert cloud]

Ye

[sullen dove]

but 2 was boring

[undone flower]

which spec is bursty rn ?

[sullen dove]

ok based

fury

[dense elbow]

This is why we got to use the term "explosive burst" to make you understand, we want that 50% value, but we dont want it spread over 20 sec. We want it in 5.

Does that make sense?

[sullen dove]

not even a little

no class in the game

[undone flower]

aside from fury just so i check the graph

[sullen dove]

does that much damage in 5seconds

its nigh unheard of

[dense elbow]

Doesnt mean that isnt what we want

[sullen dove]

flameshaper evoker was like that

and it got killed

who is we

its just you making up some shit

[dense elbow]

El sigh

[final birch]

lots of specs have much higher %

[oblique thistle]

So were we in season 1 and we got shot too

[final birch]

raw number is meaningless

[sullen dove]

indeed

shit like that doesnt last

[oblique thistle]

Mymm

[young swan]

sure, but if you want to compress the duration over which the burst happens you either need to increase the frequency or the value provided

[sullen dove]

anytime there are adds in raid that die in 5 seconds

[oblique thistle]

Mhmm

[sullen dove]

if 1 class can capitalize on that 5x better than the next class then its over

they will be killed

[young swan]

if basically all you're saying is "I want legion fury back" I can understand that

[dense elbow]

Yep, I am in camp less CDR, more raw effect

OF stronger for me, as an example, 50% more dam. Isnt 50% CDR, but 50% dam buff.

More =/= fun
Bigger dam on the press is

That is where I come from

[sullen dove]

ya and thats much more reasonable

[kindred sigil]

does anyone have any issues with logging in

[dense elbow]

I think a lot of our "disagreement", Sore. Is you saying "you think our CDs weak" when I dont do that

I just disagree with profile and how it is Vs what I ideally want

doesnt mean it is more healthy/better for the game

Simply put, I argue for my own view of things and what I find fun

And to me, (explosive) burst is fun

[dense elbow]

Not any problems on EU

(Ravencrest)

[oblique thistle]

I mean those niches exist just not in single button press form
If you want explosive damage then you play Devourer or you play fire mage where your CD is god mode and when youre not pressing a cd you are nothing
But pressing a single button like bladestorm or something to do all of your damage just wont ever happen because it happens in too few globals

[dense elbow]

BS is built up, is my counter argument

remove the CDR and move that to dam too

and reduce reap value, move it into BS as well, as reap is too dominant atm

(if you ask my take on reap, I dislike reap)

[oblique thistle]

Thats a nuclear take imo

[dense elbow]

Yep

[oblique thistle]

But that doesn't counter my original point at all

[dense elbow]

No need to

[oblique thistle]

I want BS to do x more damage at the cost of CDR and reap
OK sure
Still wont happen because that damage occurs in one global

[sullen dove]

bs is already 90 second cd

taken off am

[dense elbow]

BS got CDR in slayer

[sullen dove]

and clearly its made stronger to compensate since 1 bladestorm is worth 2 avatars under AM with the rest of your cds

yea a bit ig

but still not a ton

but yea i mean more bs wouldnt be bad

if culling cyclone actually made sense as a talent would be nice

[dense elbow]

Think even my worst haters would agree to that

Culling Cylcone is a nice middle ground, I just want more dam on press

These kind of things are my worst enemy

[shadow maple]

Now with the apex talents i can drop like 3 rampage in a row i do that or i press other things

[dense elbow]

Still send TB/SD at least

[shadow maple]

Okay

[rare garnet]

Make BS a 5m cooldown that does 99% of my DPS so I can swifty one shot in arenas.

[dense elbow]

Too far, go back a few notches

[echo rapids]

If you can drop 3 Rampages in a row then you have max rage and should spend on a rampage

[dense elbow]

45sec cycle, with 1.5m is kinda nice

this just makes me sad :<

luckilyl gear will fix most of that

I pray

[rare garnet]

Kitty never happy never good enough

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-cat-smol-cat-xiao-gif-17026975061425074267

[dense elbow]

It is rare, indeed

[fiery edge]

getting buff soon

[echo rapids]

Wait do we not reck before we charge anymore?

[rare garnet]

Where OF

[dense elbow]

Somewhere in the dumpster down there

no tierset yet to carry it and do the heavy lifting

Slayer budget clearly could take away some from reap, and grant it to BS tho

100%

[echo rapids]

Am I crazy

[rare garnet]

Hopefully s2 I can take it off my bar

[pearl oracle]

guys, new fury here. Basically if i roll with mountainthane i dont even use ww?

[dense elbow]

ye, Clap is WW for Thane

so just dont have it on your bar as thane

[pearl oracle]

oh nice thanks

and

ragin blow isnt a high prio spell anymore?

[echo rapids]

Ohhhh well ok

[dense elbow]

No, sadly not

[pearl oracle]

i played last time on bfa i guess

[dense elbow]

it been nerfed to the ground

it is the worst button we got, other than heroic throw

[pearl oracle]

damn

[dense elbow]

it aint that grim, it is just worst in order

[pearl oracle]

interesting

[dense elbow]

basically OF tier

[pearl oracle]

so usualy i want to press rampage,thunderclap,bloodthirst

[dense elbow]

TB, TC, Ramp, BT, exe, Wrecking Throw, RB
On AoE

Well, ramp if you need enrage, that ramp is a 130 rage ramp that I noted

Simplified:
Always thunderclap/Blast on CD, press BT, press rampage, press execute/RB if you have to

[pearl oracle]

oh okey, thank you very much for the help

[dense elbow]

You are welcome, hope you enjoy the content o/

[random shadow]

Whats the st rotation? For bosses

[dense elbow]

For Thane or Slayer?

[echo rapids]

I feel like that over complicates it

[random shadow]

Thane

Slayer is the same no?

[echo rapids]

We want to cast as many blood thirst as possible

[dense elbow]

That is in that rotation no, You blast/tc, and then cast BT

what ya mean Sard?

[echo rapids]

We interrupt that to cast rampage if we would cap rage or don’t have enrage up

[dense elbow]

Check #dps-faq for thane, I am not up to date on ST for em

[fiery edge]

i hate mid blow

[echo rapids]

We interrupt that to cast thunder blast if we don’t have imp WW stacks up or would cap out on charges

[dense elbow]

WW stacks doesnt matter for thane

no way that is an issue

[echo rapids]

We cast Raging blow if we don’t have blood thirst

[dense elbow]

the enrage issue was mentioned previously

[dense elbow]

we all mid together

mid fury

High mid tho!

[random shadow]

At least we're consistently mid

[fiery edge]

[echo rapids]

Yeah I just feel like it’s an easier way to comprehend our priority list

[dense elbow]

What is easier than TC on CD, press BT on CD, rampage if you need enrage; if those aint up press exe/rb?

might be my decades of warrior brain twisting my view on things tho

to me that is like, super simple

[random shadow]

Zugzug

[echo rapids]

No I agree

Maybe it’s my brain

[dense elbow]

Time to trigger some ppl:

[fiery edge]

damn you

[undone flower]

No skyreaver

[fiery edge]

single mid fury

[young swan]

are people actually getting shit crafted this week

[wicked eagle]

Is improved whirlwind tracker broken after recent update?

[young swan]

mine was working fine last night

[dense elbow]

Ehm

lads

we cant mog 1hand weapons?

[young swan]

we can

[wicked eagle]

Updated and now remains blank regardless of stacks 😥

[dense elbow]

I cant mog my 1hander to a glaive

fbm

[modest condor]

yeah because you're prot

[dense elbow]

Nop

[modest condor]

what is that shield icon doing there then

[dense elbow]

it is the 1hander

._.

[echo wharf]

Click on the mainhand and select the tab above it and change to 2hand fury. I ran into the same issue

[dense elbow]

hero

[dense elbow]

It keeps reverting my 1h into its base mog. Even when I swapped it to a twohander lookalike - you got a 1hander to be able to be mogged as a 2hander yourself?

Not that it matters, it is an issue that will at worst last a day

[mint obsidian]

guys fury looking good or meh?

i lvled up a DK but meh, i found it clunky

i wanna reroll to something else, thinking War

[unborn delta]

Fury looks mid the animations are whatever

Odyns fury is just whirlwind

[mint obsidian]

hm

[unborn delta]

In terms of damage when you press rampage the enemies health does not change

[mint obsidian]

really?

[unborn delta]

Yea it does like 3k dmg per hit of rampage and I am duel wielding 220ilvl weps

[echo wharf]

@dense elbow No 1 handers can only be 1handers. If you're fury spec with two 2handers equipped you should be able to mog them into anything you want, 1H 2H fists, daggers, staves anything. I'm not at my PC right now or I'd screenshot it

[unborn delta]

Compared to unholy we are tickle fighters

[mint obsidian]

UH does more dmg?

[unborn delta]

At this ilvl definitely

And at higher ilvls

[echo rapids]

Furry dual wield 2 handed transmog continues to carry the spec

[echo wharf]

Very true

[dense elbow]

[dense elbow]

Dont care about numbers and dam untill after RWF, there is no point.

Care about feel and gameplay, dam profile, things that is unlikely to change

^the real endgame either way

[mint obsidian]

so we are rly bad atm from what i get?

lol

[dense elbow]

No

we are mid, high mid

so we are "fine", not excellent, not great

just alright

far from bad

[lean nacelle]

arms is bad tho

[dense elbow]

they will get tuned tho

so dont worry

Maybe not tho, as they top all dungs I seen them in

now that would be funny

[sand hatch]

Nah, arms is just so op the dps meters wrapped around the other way

[mint obsidian]

who tops the dung?

[dense elbow]

Arms warrior

[hard widget]

🧢

[dense elbow]

No cap

it is just how the dungs I been in panned out

[mint obsidian]

what rly?

[hard widget]

The dungeons top arms

[dense elbow]

scaling is hell'o'a'thing

[hard widget]

SO funky

I got no clue about arms

Is it anything remotely decent?

[dense elbow]

ehrm

it is underperforming

but you can play it with no issues for what we are doing

[hard widget]

Mehhh

What about raid?

Fury or arms?

[dense elbow]

aint no raiding yet, but atm fury by default

after tuning the 17th? maybe arms

we gotta wait and see

[hard widget]

HMm

First gotta find a guild again zZzZ

[dense elbow]

should be quite ez for ya

I believe

[hard widget]

SuReLy

[dense elbow]

If I can pick and chose, so can you

[digital mauve]

so Weakaura doesnt work anymore? Does anyone have a way to have all the addons we need?

[dense elbow]

I just use base UI, DBM and bartender

o/

[digital mauve]

Last time I played was season 3 of TWW, I had weakaura, Shadow Unit Frame and little wings

[hard widget]

What ranking are you looking at?

[dense elbow]

sub 1k

If I were gonna raid again, I would be happy with a low end HoF guild

[hard widget]

Yeah i figured lower HoF too tbh

100-200

[echo rapids]

Arms st is so bad it’s 100% getting some buffs

It’ll probably end up playable

[rare garnet]

Alternatively. We can nerf it.

[dense elbow]

I mean

that would be funny

[fading sky]

Nah

Its so far behind

[echo rapids]

Which is why it will get at least some buffs

[fading sky]

Y but far from playable

[echo rapids]

Just like demo lock being so far ahead all but guarantees some nerfs

[fading sky]

Dk-lock y prob gonns get nerfed

[dense elbow]

it aint that far behind

it is doing what 70-80k vs 90k midrange

it aint that far off

[fading sky]

72k arms 96 fury

[dense elbow]

it is just far from the outliers at 130k

[fading sky]

Uhdk 130

[dense elbow]

dont look at the outliers, dont be silly

look at midrange

[fading sky]

M8 its like 20-25% behind fury

[upper wigeon]

Top dps nerfs when blizz

[dense elbow]

yep, and you dont think it is getting buffed?

it is 10-20k behind, that aint that big of a buff to bridge the gap

[echo rapids]

It’s 25% behind fury

[dense elbow]

now, if you want to catch up to the 130k tho, ya need to pray stupid hard

[echo rapids]

That’s pretty big

[dense elbow]

70k vs 90k isnt 25%

I get what ya sayin' but come on

ya dooming for no reason, and even with 70-80k vs 90k, you can still do leveling dungs and HC dungs

ya wont notice

[echo rapids]

He said 72k vs 96k

Which I don’t know is right

[dense elbow]

It is about right

good enough for goverment work

[fading sky]

Still struggles with horrid rage

It needs bout 30% aura buff

To hit fury

[echo rapids]

No one said you can’t do delves

[dense elbow]

^ ya will be fine for all content, till the buffs come

that data is irrelevant

Blizz is aware

dont worry

[fading sky]

Kek

[rare garnet]

They have their best people on it

[fading sky]

Arms dev is not aware

[rare garnet]

It’s a hard issue to solve

[dense elbow]

All two hamsters are spinning wheels to get arms buffs out

[echo rapids]

Come on, arms doesn’t have a dev

[native wadi]

Can you share?

My version doesnt have dk yet

[fading sky]

Its just a sc

[native wadi]

?

[dense elbow]

he got a screenshot

not the link itself

[fading sky]

Screenshot. I dont have link

[echo rapids]

Do your part to keep arms down, sandbag in heroic dungeons

[rare garnet]

Arms is fine clearly just a simc apl issue that’s why they’re catching nerfs the devs know

[dense elbow]

Arms pump in dungs tho

[fading sky]

Esp in st

[echo rapids]

Sandbag as fury

[fading sky]

Gj kitty

[dense elbow]

I would never do keys, while I am basically 80% AFK

never

[echo rapids]

Perfection

[rare garnet]

Imagine losing to a BM

[dense elbow]

Btw, ppl are really understanding that you just AFK

noone been angry so far

feels nice

[fading sky]

Kek

[feral ivy]

how are yall lvling yalls alts?

[fading sky]

Delved

[dense elbow]

Dungs

[rare garnet]

Fuck alts

[echo rapids]

I’m not

[fading sky]

Single delves is fastest

[echo rapids]

Doing it without rested xp just feels bad

[summer quail]

how do you know if they aren't taken?

[echo rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-manaswini-pooku-laugh-a-lot-space-laugh-gif-27483788

[summer quail]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-nerd-laughing-glasses-gif-5199302

[covert blaze]

@clever belfry Wie cool ist das bitte?

[clever belfry]

ich darf fortnite trinken

und cola spielen???

YIPPIEIEEE

[echo rapids]

I miss brann

[junior gale]

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-spreading-spreading-misinformation-online-gif-4543841945782036495

[dense elbow]

#arms message

proof is in the puddin'

[sullen dove]

the arms in the ss playing with terrible other dps

true!

[dense elbow]

Cope and seeth arms boyos

ya opop and will be nerfed

[junior gale]

Your sandbag won't work here my friend!

[dense elbow]

u sure about that

[digital mauve]

when are the m0 releasing?

[sullen dove]

its not sandbag if it cant be helped!

tomorrow

[dense elbow]

24th?

oh m0

[junior gale]

No rampage run this time?

[dense elbow]

not m+

[digital mauve]

m0

[sullen dove]

bladestorm only run

[dense elbow]

Nah, I was kinda there that run

[junior gale]

[dense elbow]

Also, my reap and BS less build kinda pumps

[echo rapids]

M0 with full release tomorrow?

[junior gale]

Full release is today

[echo rapids]

But it’s vet gear until s1

[junior gale]

M0 tomorrow

[echo rapids]

Right right

[dense elbow]

tomorrow for US, not EU, right?

[sullen dove]

the poors get to play the game in 2 hours

[dense elbow]

how does the M0 thing work with this, is it after the wensday reset or nah

[junior gale]

EU M0 should be Wednesday

They start with reset

[dense elbow]

fair enough, guess NA need that 1 day to get ahead

[sullen dove]

the hurdle jumping we gonna get to hear about rwf gonna go insane

[junior gale]

I only just now started leveling been playing tbc

[sullen dove]

max already talking about it

"if we lose voidspire but win march/dreamrift then we win if we win voidspire and lose the rest we still win"

"if we lose it all its rigged mickey mouse raids"

[summer quail]

you wasting your money on epic edition

[junior gale]

I did it for beta not early access

[summer quail]

ahh

i get to play in 2 hours

[junior gale]

First two weeks of the expansion launch is the worst time to play wow. Lvl up do M0s log off for the week

And play tbc

That's my plan

[hot shell]

I hope market crashes and 1 hour of farming is more than 30-40k gold

[dense elbow]

i mean, 1 hour at McD is what 400k gold?

[hot shell]

Exactly

[dense elbow]

m0 loot runs prob going to be around 400-500k

[hot shell]

I just level my alts witb herb/mining. Takes roughly an hour per level, wm would cut it down. Just wouldnt mind more side profit

[summer quail]

what's that? mcdonalds?

[dense elbow]

yep

[fading sky]

Have u seen a married delve?

[unborn delta]

L*rias posted this stuffs might come out in 2 hours

But they might not do it bc poors would get ragebaited

[digital mauve]

Slayer or thane for leveling?

[junior gale]

Whichever one you want it's leveling dawg

[unborn delta]

I liked thane more, aoe felt better

slayer aoe is kinda homeless levelling

[digital mauve]

yeah just want a quick talent to import

[dense elbow]

go arms

[unborn delta]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/talent-builds-pve-dps

[digital mauve]

so we gotta wait 15 days for the arms buff?

[unborn delta]

Yea

15 days till they revert the nerfs and it’s still bottom

[eager swallow]

Is anyone else too rage-capped to keep RB from capping 2 charges nearly all the time?

[unborn delta]

If you never press raging blow on an encounter, you will be a happy camper

[eager swallow]

ah okay so pure filler?

[dense elbow]

rb is a pure filler, dont worry about the charges

[eager swallow]

okay ty

[hot shell]

Im already ragebaited cause i wasted 2 shards of dundun

[unborn delta]

doodoo shard

[digital mauve]

so regeneration is dead? we were all crying for more tools and no not only we didn't we lost the ones we had?

[upper wigeon]

can you get a spark already?

[wise canyon]

yk small but weird question

is there any godforsaken way i can get a decent layout for the cooldown tracker

[unborn delta]

we have that intro quest to do each weekly once that gives half a spark? not sure beyond that

the answer is we don't know until they release the stuff because they haven't told us anything

[summer quail]

better cooldown manager addon. no clue what you consider a decent layout tho

[wise canyon]

idk im used to having one of the weakauras

[upper wigeon]

ooooh okay i was like damn how far behind am i? 🤣

[wise canyon]

i was just wondering if ppl have any nice looking ones laying around

[unborn delta]

theres def a few floating around. I know critcake posted his on critcord https://discord.gg/xEDwujj7

i just use vanilla everything for now bc it doesnt matter when levelling and theres been a lot of addon errors

[echo rapids]

Critcake one is nice, luxthos was also fine as well

[sudden tusk]

CRITLORD

[fiery pagoda]

think we will have any kind of spell reflect addon

[rare garnet]

Action bars are BiS

[orchid iron]

have you turbogamers figured out exactly how m0 is rolling out yet? people in gchat convinced 4-8 of them are openning tonight

[edgy widget]

no

there's an addon that will tell you when a spell is being cast on you, but there's no way for it to know what spell is being cast or whether or not it's reflectable

[edgy widget]

for REAL

[orchid iron]

and to ask an actual fury question- Im starting to wonder if massacre is worth taking in m+ because Im barely ever using execute and almost always have bb/rampage/tb available over it, is that just because everything is dying too fast?

^thane build

[vernal jungle]

^^ I feel that way about Gathering Clouds possibly better then thorim's might, at least in AOE/M+? Cuz more possible burst of power and avatar proc. The execute and rb damage increase doesn't matter much cuz we barely hit them in aoe

[worn yoke]

how are people feeling about the fury apex talent? Back to back rampages feels good imo, but i also feel like maybe BB is a higher priority so you need to weave that in and just get giga overcapped rage, especially in AOE for both hero trees where you want Reap procs or to be hitting TB/TC as priority but when you have rampage availabe it just feels strange to not press it as prio

[river viper]

What specs are everyone playing? I am simming slightly better with the slayer M+ build than the MT one

[sullen dove]

does this abundance event work now or no

oh is this the problem i cant pick any up in here?

[sudden tusk]

Bugged avoid til reset

[sullen dove]

yea i just did on alt and it said it was resetting in 38 minutes

figured can try and see but w/e

surely itll work when normal launch happens?

[sudden tusk]

@remote bobcat they have giant size for you

[digital mauve]

help when I try to move the luxthos cooldown manager interface from the bottom of the screen to the middle with my mouse and save, it automatically goes to the original position ,as if I didn't modified anything

[summer quail]

if running bcdm you need to go into that and move it with x and y axis

[oak peak]

No M0s tonight right?

[digital mauve]

bcdm?

oh better cooldown manager

[summer quail]

yea

[digital mauve]

cuz I have bcdm and cooldown manager cnetrered addons

[small tinsel]

Hey all

I’m playing fury and using the combat high assist but my recklessness ability seems to be the only 1 to night show with a highlight even battleshout gets highlighted if I don’t have it on

[digital mauve]

luxthos doesnt mention bcdm I guess?

[orchid iron]

It generally doesn’t highlight CDs

[chrome plover]

they nerfed the key 😭

[small tinsel]

Daymnn thankyou ive seen people have there “avatar” highlighted

I’ll look at adding a reminder of my recklessness on the front of my screen as a more clear reminder

[digital mauve]

ty it works

[orchid iron]

I could be giving you bad information, there’s also like overlapping addons that highlight shit too

[small tinsel]

I miss my hikili 😅

[digital mauve]

Which profile has this kind of interface (with the WW buff bleu squares) ?

[novel oasis]

if i run a m0 today if it comes out will the reset happen tomorrow or next tuesday

[random shadow]

Don't think it'll come out till tuseday