fury

[gusty cloak]

getting carried by simps

[coarse nest]

A BM and a FDK imagine that

Lmao

[rich veldt]

the audacity to even post that on twitter

[onyx linden]

popping full cd on single target, as colossus

[rich veldt]

is what gets me

[onyx linden]

my eyes hurt

[warm wharf]

probably didn't have her monitor on to see tank wasn't doing the regular pull

[restive peak]

LMFAO

[dire vigil]

Demolishing 1 target and getting really upset about “why everything is so spread” is what does it for me lmao. Just go demolish the 15 mobs behind the pillar

[onyx linden]

then she has all cd back up, all target stacked, and NOT USING ANYTHING

[warm wharf]

easier to cry about strat being different

i've seen people throw tantrums because route was changed by 3 mobs and afk the key

[dire vigil]

That shaman who died 2x is her “top gifted sub” who probably gets her into all the keys she does

[gusty cloak]

i believe she started the season tanking, and that didn't end up well

[restive peak]

I mean she popped her 1st sweeping on the adds that were running it hahaha

[onyx linden]

somehow i highly doubt that

[warm wharf]

why all my sims telling me to get more haste

[onyx linden]

we like haste

[hardy cargo]

bro I watched that clip and I was SCREAMING for her to press 2nd warbreaker and demolish

[coarse nest]

I think it’s because you don’t have enough but not sure

[warm wharf]

wait where did my haste go, i had 25k now i'm down to 14k

[dire vigil]

She was saving offensive CDs for the next dungeon

[onyx linden]

also used potion, when all CD ran out

i cant

[coarse nest]

Well yeah if you spread out your CDs you’re doing extra damage for more time duhhhh

[onyx linden]

[coarse nest]

[dire vigil]

Evens out the damage profile to avoid ripping aggro

[warm wharf]

oh right i swaped sacbrood for myth antenna

now i need less vers and more haste from somewhere

[dire vigil]

Cloak fiber

[drifting token]

Sac doesn't have 11k haste to lose lol

[south kayak]

Saving cds for Midnight

[dire vigil]

Saving CDs for the arms re-work

[warm wharf]

there were more changes but i had it at like 19k then i swapped sacbrood and now i'm at 14k

my gear is almost 1:1 with the bis list from wowhead

[hardy bluff]

i doubt that

[plush zephyr]

oh so never

[hardy bluff]

bis list is all 723

[warm wharf]

yeah fair point but upgrades aren't gonna fetch 5k stats outa nowhere

[hard rampart]

anyone got a source for proper rotation prio?

my ilvl% parses are shit

[runic acorn]

raging blow and rampage are the only 2 buttons you need

[coarse nest]

Wowhead

[smoky vale]

@celest anchor hi gz on liquid

[coarse nest]

Ayoo!?

[civic hemlock]

we made it bros

[warm wharf]

welcome to antenna gang

[young swan]

omg now i get to do keys with wallife

[odd tinsel]

is slayer or mt better for m+?

[ornate gust]

which classes/specs consider Eradicating Arcanocore trinekt bis along with us?

[odd tinsel]

Anyone got a WA for improved ww

[dire vigil]

Luxthos WA pack

[odd tinsel]

thank u legend

[lapis shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/benito-mussolini-il-duce-joe-rogan-exhale-breathe-gif-22513891

[dire vigil]

Np bruthr, gl

[gusty cloak]

if you hear a chaching, do you hit execute even if not enraged?

[dire vigil]

No

Rampage, execute

Being enraged is highest prio

[balmy shore]

being enraged is good :)

[candid falcon]

if you're already enraged do you rampage before execute

[dire vigil]

However I do play the non-enrage build now and then

[chilly fractal]

[drifting token]

wdym "non-enrage build"

[odd vapor]

anyone use Def stance at any time? or specific boss?

[chilly fractal]

When you aren’t attacking something

[civic hemlock]

high keys on big inc damage its nice to pop for healers

[young swan]

prob means powerful instead of frenzied

or hes just being a lil silly

[civic hemlock]

a lil silly boy

[dire vigil]

Just being a silly boy

💅🏼

[celest anchor]

ty

[coarse nest]

Aye it’s real

[olive wraith]

Use it like a defensive. Don’t just sit in d stance

[coarse nest]

Gz!

Dstance for literally everything threatening

Healer will love it

[hazy storm]

why archon saying arcanocore is BIS but here say it's not good for m+

[junior gale]

Playing warrior for liquid?

👀

[hazy storm]

the truth is what and what is the truth
?

[candid falcon]

Healers really love it when you stand in damage on easy bosses, and take as little damage as possible on hard bosses

[hazy storm]

anyone?

[young swan]

cause ur looking at raid

its good in raid

bad for m+

its a ST trinket

[storm birch]

Does CSI active dmg benefit from enrage?

[chrome plover]

no

[storm birch]

haven't gotten it to drop so i have no idea

ok thanks

[lavish pond]

guys when its the best time to use execute in slayer build

[young swan]

nah but the haste from frenzied does make the channel faster

[olive wraith]

Trinkets don’t interact with enrage

[young swan]

when the weakaura tells u too

[olive wraith]

When you meet the conditionals

[storm birch]

ahh i see ok ok

[young swan]

if you wanna know the conditionals then read the wowhead guide

[lavish pond]

not you again

[hazy storm]

how bad is it fro m+?

[young swan]

pretty not great

[olive wraith]

It’s me

[gusty cloak]

it really hurts dps when you dont have BS at a start of a pack, if you get it like 10 seconds in your fucked

[hazy storm]

ijn archojn people use it for +18 kkeys

[olive wraith]

Telling you information you asked for

[hazy storm]

hguh

[olive wraith]

They might use it for boss damage

[young swan]

are you doing +18 keys

[hazy storm]

i plan to in the future so was thinking if i shouold pick this mythic arcanocore in my vault

[marble ruin]

Is stone idol still good for slayer? Currently have antenna and so'leah

[young swan]

dont

it drops from the first boss

waste of a vault

[olive wraith]

It’s good for aoe

[young swan]

yeah, soleah sucks

[hazy storm]

the other one is a chest lol mythic grade chest but also easy to attian on first boss

[marble ruin]

Kk

Thanks gaymers

[young swan]

saves u a catalyst charge that u could use on another piece

unless if its not tier

pretty sure its easier to just send ur vault

[hazy storm]

noted ty

[young swan]

get the weakaura btw

[smoky vale]

yes

(no)

(yes)

[young swan]

i got a 16 priory from my vault

woohoo

[lavish pond]

I use WA but sometimes its hard to understand when its the good time for some spells

[young swan]

there is a weakaura that literally tells u when to press execute

[olive wraith]

Did you read the wowhead prio

[young swan]

#1237307732705415228 message

[lavish pond]

yeah

[olive wraith]

What other spell besides exe are you unsure of

[lavish pond]

I know the prio when i start the aoe. then i dont fully get it what to use when the cds are down.

[olive wraith]

Like after you send Ava/bs?

[lavish pond]

yes

[olive wraith]

Did you only read the opener by chance

[lavish pond]

like , what we want to use the most except of rampage. when its a good time to use BT etc

[lavish pond]

no i read the whole thing but i feel some of my questions are not answered there. maybe im wrong

[olive wraith]

We don’t use bt if we can help it

Help me out. Where do you get lost

[lavish pond]

im ok untill 8, i do that easy then im getting lost. BT is at 14 so i understand that we dont use it frequently

[limber oar]

Theres a weakaura that will play a kaching sound when the conditionals for step 8 are met

[lavish pond]

also WW shouldnt be used every 4 casts?

[olive wraith]

So 9 is specifically after bs

[limber oar]

(Among some other steps)

[olive wraith]

3

[brittle crow]

#3 prio

[cobalt relic]

warcraftlogs down for anyone else?

[lavish pond]

ok but here it shows it for 2 times

[mild coral]

yea

[lavish pond]

in 3 and 15

[brittle crow]

because it's also filler

[olive wraith]

15 is if there’s nothing else to press

[dire vigil]

Is this in AOE? I thought we were using TR as super low prio filler when you run out of rampages and RBs

[cobalt relic]

can someone send me talent code

for plexus

please

(mythic)

[olive wraith]

Yes aoe

[dire vigil]

Got it ok, thanks

[lavish pond]

Also, about the talent's stacks. i have to check my WA i guess cause i dont know how to check them

[olive wraith]

Otherwise we wouldn’t be 3

[olive wraith]

Sudden death?

[lavish pond]

yes, how do i know i have 2 stacks of i

[olive wraith]

There’s a 2 icon

[quartz pumice]

What's my 2nd m+ trinket next to Cursed Idol?
The Antenna is 668, so doubt it's that.

[olive wraith]

Did you make your own wa

Or did you grab the one in the guide

[dire vigil]

Pacemaker

[digital mauve]

no nerfs? we're safe?

[olive wraith]

I reduced your reap % by 10

[warm crag]

i passed the feedback to the team the tier set hotfix from last week should be getting hotfixed back out this friday

[lavish pond]

a 2 icon?

[digital mauve]

nice

[dire vigil]

Reap change didn’t have much of an effect in ST, so prob not. They tune for raid before they tune for m+

[olive wraith]

Did you make your own wa

[lavish pond]

No i downloaded

[olive wraith]

Then don’t worry about when you have 2 sudden death

Just trust the wa

[lavish pond]

maybe suggest a good wa for fury? maybe i have a wrong or not good enough?

[olive wraith]

I use a basic class ui from luxthos. And the exe wa

It sounds like you’re getting hung up on execute specifically

When you hear the kaching. You press execute. For now just listen for it

[lavish pond]

ok for sure i dont have the exe wa

[olive wraith]

As you get used to the rotation then you can start thinking about why each use is being used

[lavish pond]

yy i get what u saying

[olive wraith]

#dps-faq

In the wa tab grab the fury sd conditions

[lavish pond]

Ok i see didnt know that exists, thank you

[olive wraith]

Yup np. If you’re still having issues come back

But I think you’ll be good now that you have the wa

[coarse nest]

@tepid cedar hey bro when you sim comparing jewelry do you always let it sim gems/enchants with it? Curious

[hollow leaf]

I don't like soulbinder anymore

adds die faster than my bs

[tepid cedar]

i usualy sim without to see what the dps increase will be. so u get the most dps with current gems/enchants. then i do gems

as it wil then always be a hefty increase

[late slate]

There a new talent tree with the buff?

[lavish pond]

Ok, it works fine, just to clarify. I use exe when I hear the sound or when i see the icon being flashy? cause the timing is different ( visual-audio)

[olive wraith]

When you hear the audio

[mossy pelican]

We think it’s still worth ripping a couple BTs on araz add sets where bladestorm is down?

[lavish pond]

the flashy icon whats the point then ?

[olive wraith]

The icon shows which conditional is being used iirc

[coarse nest]

So how do you handle a ring that has empty sockets then won’t that always show as a loss?

[olive wraith]

Maybe he dupes it?

[lavish pond]

And the last question about prio. I have rampage on, RB is green in WA and i hear a sound of exe. What i press first? :p

[olive wraith]

Uh idk what rb in green means

[tepid cedar]

u add sockets

[olive wraith]

But as long as you’re enraged exe conditionals are higher

[unborn sparrow]

Anyone have any tips for parses on araz? Really seem to struggle for the orange parse on that 1. Is it just aoe pad?

[tepid cedar]

but u onlly have your current gems enchants selected

[smoky vale]

yes

[lavish pond]

Ok so exe first and then everything else

[olive wraith]

As long as you’re enraged ya

[lavish pond]

Does the sound works only when im enraged or do i have to w8 to be enraged in order to use it

[gusty cloak]

that 1 extra second on enraged from powerful was nice

[heavy sparrow]

Godness, the 4 piece is powerful

[plush zephyr]

Orange parses in m+ don’t mean shit

[olive wraith]

The sound doesn’t check if you’re enraged so you gotta track that

[plush zephyr]

But you should have them lol

[lavish pond]

Ok go it

[coarse nest]

Got it that’s what I meant and is what I do already just was curious if you did it differently

[olive wraith]

Araz is a raid boss friend

[plush zephyr]

I read

Something else

Ima go home

[olive wraith]

🤣

[junior gale]

Parsing on any boss with adds is just gonna be who can pad more

Unless warcraft logs remove the adds

[fading sky]

Just reap em man

[junior gale]

Then you get the wonderful scenario of fury warriors going full ST on Araz

[olive wraith]

Pray you have a group that doesn’t instant kill ads

[tepid cedar]

Yea, I found it’s quicker that way and been more efficient for me atleast that way

[plush zephyr]

Didn’t they think of that then realized it would curve comps to be nothing but degen st raiders

[tepid cedar]

Adds die so fast when ccd properly , st might not be a. Bad idea and just play the reap chance

[coarse nest]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2L3jkNTL9Jb4E79UTYy3XB

Found a way to hit 5.5m

[tepid cedar]

lol must be nice my vault was ass 3rd week in row. Atleast this week wasnt socket. Got some myth 714 gloves with avoidance .

[coarse nest]

I had to take socket this week

That enabled belt

[tepid cedar]

Haha I had socket last week hahahaha

[coarse nest]

Sadge

[tepid cedar]

I don’t even thinking I’m simming over 5.35 yet vault and raid drops have been atrocious

[heavy dock]

Which then turns into who can spec full st and ignore adds while only hitting boss 99% of the fight. Lose lose situation either way

[hearty zinc]

Does it change something if i have my high ilvl weapon in mainhand or in offhand?

[tepid cedar]

Highest ilvl main

Always

[limber oar]

I GUARANTEE your drops havent been worse than ours

[hearty zinc]

k, thanks 🙂

[unborn sparrow]

Thank you. Looking at top parses, they also more ST dmg and faster kills on araz overall

[limber oar]

We have prob bottom 5% drops its criminal

[tepid cedar]

lol I wish we could see the drops. This past week we got nothing. Like all belts and boots

Fuck we haven’t seen a heroic boots from soul doing it every week. And only 1 pair of normals dropped which I got lol

[limber oar]

Plexus has dropped 0 chest and 1 arcanocore, soulbinder has dropped 1 staff, 0 antennas from loomy, 0 ritual forges from araz, 0 netherprisms from fractillus, and 1 boot drop on soul hunters (leather lmfao)

From mythic ofc

Legit we’re feeding our tank transmogs

Cause of the useless drops

[junior gale]

They have consistently turned off adds on fights every tier this expansion now

[junior gale]

Or just play thane and pray you get multiple procs every add spawn

[junior gale]

Is what it is

[heavy dock]

I remember in s1 on rashnan people started having issues with the adds cuz people stopped padding them and went full st

Funniest shit ever

[coarse nest]

I was considering doing full ST and prayge for reap procs on araz prog too

But idk if that’s inting

[heavy dock]

It is

You have other aoe parts too

Like pylons with add

[coarse nest]

I feel like adds still need help dieing honestly

[limber oar]

I went slayer multitarget and just prioed araz on prog

[coarse nest]

Yeah ^

[heavy dock]

Yea just cleave off the fatty

[limber oar]

So unless the adds really need help for some reason

[tranquil dust]

@edgy widget Is the BIS head for Fury still the BoE? If yes, Mastery+Haste, which one should be the higher, and are this stat choices for ST, MT or both?

[limber oar]

Then you go Thane i suppose for consistently blowing them up every set

[tranquil dust]

I know I can sim, but if Im buying the piece, I want to make sure it is worth it for the long run

[limber oar]

But i had decent success with the uh

Last night on reclear

[tranquil dust]

And the gear I have now is still far from BiS

[limber oar]

I think @tepid cedar did the sim for that

[junior gale]

I saw logs of one armed bandit with full ST fury warriors

[tranquil dust]

And what was the result?

[limber oar]

P sure it was vers/haste helm i think

Vers favored

[junior gale]

Inting for sure Slayer still does good add dmg

[tranquil dust]

Thats the one Crit is using too

[limber oar]

I could be fucking lying but it was vers favored something

From memory

[opal heart]

Do we still prio getting Slaughtering strikes to 5 stacks even if enrage falls off, after bladestorm

or are we just getting in as many stacks before enrage falls off?

[graceful cape]

fury use one handed wepaons?

[olive wraith]

Never let enrage fall

[olive wraith]

Technically it can

[limber oar]

@tranquil dust this was the screenie from when apocalypse did the sim

[olive wraith]

Just not optimal

[heavy dock]

I skipped s2 so i have no idea how the raid worked

[limber oar]

Doesnt show the stats sadly

[junior gale]

Never worth because the diff between that head and another myth head is a negligible number

[tranquil dust]

Cant know yeah

[coarse nest]

Bro just needs to replace all his items

[limber oar]

TEEHEE

[opal heart]

ya thought so, so just spam as many rb's after bladestorm before enrage falls off

[tranquil dust]

This might also be true, and I hate spending money on gear

[coarse nest]

Stats on helm probably big vers little haste right?

[limber oar]

Cant hit half the bomb adds anyways lmfao

[olive wraith]

Keep in mind exe conditionals are higher than rb

[heavy dock]

I was lucky enough to get the m+ helm in myth

[limber oar]

Ya iirc thats what it was

[heavy dock]

The halls one

[junior gale]

Might? Brother it is secondary stats barely matter

[tranquil dust]

OOOOOF niceeee

[coarse nest]

Makes sense

[junior gale]

Especially secondaries on an armor piece

[tranquil dust]

My "might" was just trying to justify my almost impulse-purchase ahahahahahaahh

[heavy dock]

Depends how much money tyey have

Id buy it to if i had gold caps

[junior gale]

How much is it right now?

[opal heart]

ye for sure thanks

[heavy dock]

Was around 1 mil on twisting nether eu i think

[tranquil dust]

Ranging from 1,5ish to 3ish depending on stats, socket, etc

[heavy dock]

Or more? Cant remember

But if you plan on buying boe

[junior gale]

yeah imagine dropping 2 mil for an item that will net you a .01% upgrade if you already have a myth helm

[heavy dock]

Always check underminr exchange to see cheapest

Server

[tranquil dust]

SameSame

[tranquil dust]

Its true, but I dont have the Myth yet so might be justifiable

"Might"

[junior gale]

I mean if you don't want to wait for one and you got gold to piss away go ahead

Can spend 2 million on a .6% upg

[tranquil dust]

Im almost buying it, but in a few weeks I will be like "why did I buy this, fk me"

I need to buy some patience, thats what I need to buy

[junior gale]

Sounds like you know the answer

It's not worth

[coarse nest]

Yeah 2m for 40k dps massive

[tranquil dust]

Yeeeee, not buying it

😄

[junior gale]

40k DPS when we do 5.4 mil

Holy

Hugeeeee

[coarse nest]

Insane

[tranquil dust]

You look like the guy who could help me with another matter considering your name

@junior gale

[junior gale]

It's meta

[remote bobcat]

it's "meta"

[tranquil dust]

HOW DO I RE-LEARN TO PLAY SLAYER ON M+

This was the other matter ahahahah

[remote bobcat]

? click bladestorm into raging blow

profit

[junior gale]

Hit dummies till you're proficient

[coarse nest]

Put raging blow on the BT bind also

[tranquil dust]

After this whole x-pack playing thane, Im struggling so much, my Reap should be top, and its side by side with RB

[remote bobcat]

it depends on dungeon

[tranquil dust]

I thought about this to be honest, should I?

[remote bobcat]

reap will never be top dps in streets iirc

[junior gale]

Reap is not always gonna be top

[coarse nest]

I mean no you shouldn’t actually lmao

[junior gale]

It's dungeon and pull dependent

If your hitting dummies reap and RB should be the same

[tranquil dust]

Any of the ones I did, ranging from 10-12, I was just doing 10s and 12s to learn the thing, and the damage is not like Thane, and its a me-problem 100%

In dummies its easy to do the simm dps

[remote bobcat]

this was my HoA 14 breakdown

[junior gale]

That's a dungeon problem and key level

[remote bobcat]

this was streets

[junior gale]

Especially on low keys like weeklys

[remote bobcat]

dawn

[tranquil dust]

But in content, its not the same, I believe it may be something to do with my stacking, maybe Im not placing bladestorm at the correct timings

[junior gale]

Slayer fury is flat AF and requires things to live

[tranquil dust]

This would be perfect

[remote bobcat]

bladestorm should always be beginning of the pack

every pack

[tranquil dust]

Ive noticed this too yeah

[junior gale]

It's not gonna burst like thane

[remote bobcat]

Its worth to hold a bit on end of pack in order to have BS immediately on next pack

[junior gale]

Getting procs

[tranquil dust]

Thing is top logs all show reap on the top, no matter the dungeon

No matter the key level

[junior gale]

I don't believe you

[tranquil dust]

Check WarcraftLogs

[junior gale]

Considering I've never had reap do more in a streets

[tranquil dust]

I did a full-on review last night and couldnt sleep after, cuz its a me problem

KEKW

Let me check streets, 1 second

[ornate gust]

Is my roar's value acceptable? it is like a waste of time pressing roar! This is +12 HoA

[tranquil dust]

Ive noticed Crit last night on stream, was also neglecting roar a bit

Like throwing mid pull, after burst like "IDC but take it"

[junior gale]

You good bruh literally first one I checked on streets

[tranquil dust]

Oh youre right then, oooof better for me

But I do need to improve a lot still on this Slayer thing

[junior gale]

Roar especially with no roar talents gonna be dog ass

[tranquil dust]

What I love about thane is no setup, no pre insert-key stacking, nothing, just go in, bombombom always ready

[junior gale]

Press RB and make sure every new mob that you touch you have a BS ready for

Gg

That's it

[tranquil dust]

This is a lot of setup, reminds me of arms a bit, and thats what I hate about arms

[tardy lark]

fury setup?

[junior gale]

Setup?

[tranquil dust]

Maybe Im overthinking things

[junior gale]

You pop your ava reck macro charge WW ramp BS and it's go time

[median fjord]

For slayer fury ST in raid, do we prio execute casts (i have the execute weaksura) even if we’re rage capped?

[junior gale]

Arms is like a 15 button opener

[tranquil dust]

Yeah this is also true

[celest sierra]

Did a 13 as mountain thane . Won’t lie I still like the playstyle better then Slayer and I was pumping just as hard

[tranquil dust]

But prestack the BS before key pull and all

[junior gale]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1237303208754286715 any of the guides will have rotation prios but yes

[junior gale]

[winter shoal]

For most of the exe conditions yes as long as you don't need to refresh enrage. The 1mfe <20% condition is below rampage though

[tranquil dust]

Yeah the pump is as hard but not the best if you can play both at top level, thats why I feel like I need to play slayer now, I could top level thane, if I can top level slayer I will pump harder

[celest sierra]

To me it felt like I was pumping harder then slayer . Just prob need to practice slayer more but I finished the dungeon around 7.5M overall

Is 7.5M low ?

[tranquil dust]

Look at this garbage from HoA

[quiet breach]

shoutout to all key holders that decline quickly

you guys are the goats

[tranquil dust]

True for real

[tranquil dust]

i will check for you, so many numbers I cant even tell anymore

[junior gale]

Feelings over facts we like those in big 2025. But for real tho play what's more fun that's all that matters

[tranquil dust]

What was the dung of the +13?

[undone flower]

If you have the leaver mark I decline faster 👀

[earnest canyon]

No they aren't, everyone declines me

[thick fossil]

I should be pushing 16s and 17s this week, just too fucking tired from work.

Title is gonna be so super inflated this season.

[shut jetty]

Is there a way to stop the tank icon showing when I queue for a key? My Fury rio is higher than tank now

[smoky vale]

i cant wait to be doing ara kara 25

[junior gale]

Swampface in big 25 ez pz

[undone flower]

Kinda expected just with the existence of tier sets alone / yes other stuff inflates too

[smoky vale]

that sounds like hell

[steep fable]

Looking forward to the monster whiplash Blizz gives us with the Midnight stat squish too.
I figure season 1 Midnight will open with mass bricking at +6 week one

[junior gale]

Just how it is with title every season

Nothing new

[undone flower]

Yep and tier set being stronger than S2 ones which was stronger than S1 ones, you expect the key lvl virtual increase each season

[junior gale]

He's already painful and bricked my 17 flood

[celest sierra]

Eco dome I belive

[grim star]

I pump way harder with slayer and the ST boss damage fucks

[fading sky]

1000%

[frank dawn]

the boss damage from slayer is super easy to undervalue imo, like we're still solid overall

but that S tier boss damage is big

[tranquil dust]

Top slayer did 9,6M overall on 13 ecodome

[smoky vale]

healer moment or

[tranquil dust]

Without monk in group

[celest sierra]

What about thane

[smoky vale]

also i think people play that boss horribly

[tranquil dust]

2 secs, checking

[smoky vale]

if you press defensives on the solo tangles

[junior gale]

Healer + huntard moment

[smoky vale]

you just make the boss impossible for your healer

[tranquil dust]

6,2M with monk, what

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/8yMZzTn4WcXtJqmH?fight=8&type=summary

[celest sierra]

Ooff

[tranquil dust]

KEKW

[fossil orbit]

question, we prio RB for RoS over execute in m+ now right? as slayer

[fading sky]

Again

St or aoe

M+ is both

[fossil orbit]

aoe

[fading sky]

U prio rb yes

[tranquil dust]

Prio RB, take the WA for when to Execute

[fading sky]

But still send sd noe and then

[tranquil dust]

Katching = Execute baby

Why does my sims always tell me to take sac over idol? Something is not right, maybe in my stats

only idol on 10+ patchwerk

[fading sky]

Prob bad simmin

[tranquil dust]

So strange

[shrewd cradle]

any recommendation on simming for aoe raid fights, mythic soul binder araz etc

[fading sky]

What do u sim?

How long and target number

[sullen dove]

what like single target?

or any target and only at 10 it swaps

cuz it’s def bad single target

[shrewd cradle]

typically for ST i just do patchwork 6 or 7min

[tranquil dust]

ST, DS, 5P, only on 10P it shows me to take the idol, 5 minutes all

[fading sky]

Well idol is burst

[tranquil dust]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/xnXiLoob9GnN4Vfxie88ZP

[fading sky]

Sl

So if u avatar wirh afds

Idol ducks

Then adds gone

[tranquil dust]

95k loss in DPS, so weird

[shrewd cradle]

mostly trying to choose if i take mythic antenna or heroic screams, screams is higher on ST, but thinking antenna will be better for raid overall

[fading sky]

Not rly

U are simmin 5m

What

Anrena

Always

[covert coyote]

Not even a question. Antenna

[tranquil dust]

Yeah, I said 5 min, what is the optimal time considering the packs duration? Maybe like 2 with ±20%?

[shrewd cradle]

i mean antenna sims lower on ST, so hard to say no question at all, when sim says otherwise

is it that much better for aoe then?

[tranquil dust]

Yeah 2 min just goes kaboom the idol

[junior gale]

Das indeed what an on use trinket does

[fading sky]

Antenna take ot

[shrewd cradle]

i understand that is likely better, but no data given or logical points other than saying take it doesnt help. i did an aoe sim not sure if itll mimic soulbinder or araz perfectly but seems to be 3% better on aoe over heroic screams

[chilly bay]

Im having a dilemma with vault, should i choose 707 pacemaker or the 2h weapon as i only have 2x 710 weapons now. Next week I get enough sparks to make everforged axe so should i take the trinket or the weapon

[chilly fractal]

Weapon

Wait why didn’t you craft a weapon already?

[chilly bay]

cause i spent them on my protection gear :'(

and now enjoying more playing fury

[elder granite]

Pacemaker will be beat by other trinkets and you can buy at some point

[heavy sparrow]

This slayer set would actually be really good as part of the new hero talents

Though i would just extend reap to exe, rb and bt

[shrewd cradle]

seaforium doesnt sim great, its not bad but several better trinkets, wep is going to be biggest dps at all times if going from champ>heroic>mythic

[sullen dove]

If u choose weapon do not upgrade until you craft 2hander

Otherwise just incinerate 60 gilded crests for fun

@chilly bay

[dim lynx]

Hi guys, could you share a ST build for raid? I'm casual trying to do a bit more. and it's still RB, rampage, execute with proc?

[sullen dove]

#1237307390865571890 message

if you use weakauras yea there is one that lights up and makes a sound when it’s “best” to hit execute but if you don’t want to worry about extra stuff like that it’s just like 1% worse to slam exe on cd which kinda means nothing most of the time

but yea pretty much baseline rampage > sd execute > raging blow if you go weak aura less

but even if rb looks like its third you do just kinda smack the shid outta that button a lot

[dim lynx]

Thank you!

[chilly bay]

i can upgrade it to 720 with valorstones only as i have crafted 1h and shield

[tardy hedge]

what stat is scaling reap of the storm?

[drifting token]

can you rephrase

[tardy hedge]

i cant 😄

just how i can do more dmg with it per hit 😄

[chilly bay]

zug harder

[finite ravine]

More strength = more damage

[drifting token]

it's attack power. Like everything else we do

[chilly bay]

;)

[junior gale]

This ain't an ARPG friend. Go play POE 2 or Last Epoch

[sullen dove]

Does it work backwards like that thought it didn’t let you

[covert coyote]

Mastery and versatility can do the trick

[sullen dove]

like 2hand can get you free 1h and shield but thought reverse wasn’t true

maybe never had both upgraded before

[fading sky]

Also mastery😄😅

[heavy sparrow]

I think this is the tier where fury has the best aoe

Compared to previous seasons fury

[junior gale]

All which requires no thinky just equip higher ilvl and sim jewelry and trinkets

[olive wraith]

Easily. I only started back up in DF and it definitely has the best aoe

[dim lynx]

What trinkets to use for ST from these ones? all 710.

[covert coyote]

pure ST probably sacbrood and warpclaw/soleahs if your stats need to makeup for a stat deficit

[plush zephyr]

Can we make this a pin to insta reply to like, most questions recently. This is beautiful.

[hollow leaf]

probably sac/pacemaker or sac/so'leah

[sullen dove]

true pin all my messages I speak only gospel

[olive wraith]

Nah warplcaw is actually decent for st

But yes def sim

[hollow leaf]

never simmed very well for me personally

[edgy widget]

everything

[coarse nest]

Intellect

[kind bolt]

holy shit how good is reap in m+ now slayer?

[covert coyote]

very. usually top DPS contributor

[chilly fractal]

Agility

[kind bolt]

im peakin in hc raid rn

so wanna see it in m+ lol

will it get nerfed

[olive wraith]

I don’t think so

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1409700786706972732/1415220212038504490/image.png?ex=68c312c8&is=68c1c148&hm=732aba03ce20f16b8c643fb1c164d8b9763048e023727a4c303156a7cd397a01&

We aren’t op

[granite rampart]

Reap feels so good right now, but it doesn't feel so broken it desperately needs a nerf

[coarse nest]

You pipe down there death knight player

https://tenor.com/view/kid-en-sacrement-regard-de-feu-gif-15231722216266444049

[iron portal]

Imposters everywhere

[junior gale]

Ok but if I get more mastery and then subtract some vers and get a touch of Crit maybe my reap dmg can be about the same

[celest escarp]

guys do i reroll from survival hunter to fury

unbiased place to ask i know

[coarse nest]

one trick pony king

[grim star]

yis

[plush zephyr]

Holy shit 😂

[edgy widget]

maybe about more or less

[arctic portal]

do i want to be enraged to use idol?

[coarse nest]

Doesn’t matter

Enrage doesn’t effect trinket

[arctic portal]

ty!

[tardy hedge]

what i m doing wrong? at gambit my reap was blasting only at first pull then at others trash it was absolute garbage ? i m always starting with bladestorm into pack tho

[ornate gust]

Had fun tonight in +12 Flood Key https://www.twitch.tv/soggo/clip/AltruisticDeadSquidThisIsSparta-fw7ZEx-1JlGvSvBB

[elder granite]

Are your prioing RB over Rampage?

[smoky vale]

promotion moment

[olive wraith]

Higher target count= more reap damage

[smoky vale]

nvm

is a clip

[drifting token]

idk how many times it needs to be expressed that we can't tell "what's wrong" by looking at a details chart.

[olive wraith]

As many times as “what’s the priority”

[drifting token]

so infinity

[half valve]

Ok, so just so I get it.
We overcap rage if:

1. We have the conditions to execute
2. We finished BS and spam RB for benefit form Brutal finish.

yes?

[olive wraith]

Sounds about right

[elder granite]

If RB is up I’m hitting that bitch

[drifting token]

and if still enraged

[olive wraith]

Refreshing enrage is still the most important

So ya if you running out of it. Then ramp

[half valve]

Yea ofc. RB until out of stacks or of enrage run out

[olive wraith]

I meant for exe as well

[drifting token]

i feel like majority of the talent build cooks have chilled and migrated back onto deft tho so pretty low chance you'll be out of enrage

[kind bolt]

but whats the point of thane rn

[drifting token]

more idiot proof i guess, less prone to fuckups

[elder granite]

Soul hunters

[tiny seal]

how many bosses we have to kill for the 6th renown reward?

[junior gale]

Not how this game works unfort

[warm crag]

5 ish

[ornate gust]

I got the quest after killing the 5th boss

[tiny seal]

nice

[hallow pendant]

What stats do I want the BOE helm with as fury?

whats BIS

[elder granite]

Sim but haste mast prob

[junior gale]

Doesn't matter it's just a helm any variation will haste mastery vers or Crit will do fine

[elder granite]

OF is like a 2% aoe and ST loss right?

Aoe gain*

[granite rampart]

Great question, not sure i have a good answer. I wish it could be sorted out so depending on dungeon pull size it would make sense to play one or the other but it probably never gets balanced that well

[open prairie]

thane exists for prot

[olive wraith]

Call me slowpoke but I’m starting to just ignore of Build

Yall act as if thane is unplayable

[open prairie]

thats the wow community

in a nutshell

you need to copy crit’s void elf 1 shoulder magetower mog

to do dps

obviously

[granite rampart]

Yea..... true, the giga thunderblast reset still feels good

[olive wraith]

Thane is still good lol

It didn’t get nerfed

[elder granite]

Thane on soul hunters is fun as hell

[open prairie]

I just like spinning

im a simple man

[granite rampart]

You can always rotate your character with your mouse after you chuck ravager

[olive wraith]

Thane sfx are top notch

[granite rampart]

100% agreed

[chilly fractal]

Does the WA that spins your camera with Bladestorm also spin you with Reap?

[granite rampart]

Oh! Idk but maybe it should

[chilly fractal]

And whirlwind

Play that drunk and see how long you last

[granite rampart]

Hmmm drunken first person spin WA mplus, there's some funny awful content ideas right there

[snow coral]

is there a new build people are doing with Fury now?

[thick fossil]

New as in two weeks old now? Yes.

[stiff furnace]

There's a WA that spins your cam when you cast BS...?

[drifting token]

that's so unhinged

pun intended

[granite rampart]

Yes, but if you can actually play with it.... then good on you

[pallid hull]

Yo

[thick fossil]

It's extremely disorientating, do not recommend if you're easily subject to motion sickness.

[storm birch]

+17 Gambit. Hunter missed a star on the last phase and we wiped. Boss was at 3% hp 🙂

[thick fossil]

Ooof, still timed though?

[storm birch]

Nope

[thick fossil]

[storm birch]

cause wipe we had 40 sec left 3% hp and boss went into star phase

I was so hype that we had it but right at the very very end

I cri

[thick fossil]

Almost 2 starred a 15 Dawnbreaker in the wrong spec. (was still in Slayer + Spear from Forgeweaver fight)

[tidal lava]

slayer warrior - should i be whirlwinding when im at 0 stacks of whirlwind, or when im at 1 stack?

[drifting token]

0 ideally

the less gcds you spend on ww the better

[civic totem]

Flood 14 - no shaman or monk buff. Loving this build right now

[vague copper]

But what is worse, one missed out cleave on RB or a WW on 1 stack? 😄

I tend to WW on 1 stack every now and then

[drifting token]

you're not gonna miss out on a cleave if you press ww again lol

neither of the options you list are necessary

[granite rampart]

That's a real strong overall!

Damn goals

[vague copper]

I mean not ww before the 5th strike or WW on the 3e

[analog kite]

prayers for Charlie Kirk

[drifting token]

yeah neitehr of those things should happen

[young swan]

yeah that can be optimal sometimes but you shouldnt make a habit out of it

also not sure its optimal ever with how much we press RB now

[remote bobcat]

world news are irrelevant to wow channels mate

[olive wraith]

I refresh early when I’m running out for mechanics

It’s probably a dps loss outside of that

Unless you legit have nothing else to press somehow

[vague copper]

Well WW has some range so somtime I spam it when I need to avoid stuff 😛

[olive wraith]

I did say that

Same goes for roar in st

[sour frigate]

@dense elbow FURY ALIVE FINALLY

[vague copper]

but this is what I mean..

so last RB is without cleave

[olive wraith]

Ya that’s bad

[vague copper]

Yeah I know

And the first is a ww on 1 stack 😄

But Fury stress me atm, my muscel memory aint there yet.

[olive wraith]

Ya you’ll get used to it

Get used to counting to 4 a million times a key

[vague copper]

Maybe a WA that count for you LOUD!

on speakers with the team.. 😄

[rich flame]

Idk why u need to weigh which one is worse but I think doing no ww rb is worse

Given empty rb is wasting one gcd and early ww is wasting 1/4, just pulling numbers out of my butt

[chilly bay]

i have crunch sound wa when i run out of stacks :P

took the critcakes counter wa which fixes rampage lag and when it is not showing i hear the bite

[rich flame]

I made my own ww wa but it's slow to update sometimes, idk if it's the buff actually taking some time to fade

[young swan]

its because they made rampage only consume the ww stack on the last hit

[chilly bay]

rampage uses its ww after the last hit not when you press the button so it will feel laggy

[young swan]

yeah its really annoying

[chilly bay]

but critcakes wa pack has a wa which has it fixed

[rich flame]

Oh that's why

[young swan]

and its only there to fix a very niche circumstance

[chilly bay]

with some custom code

[young swan]

someone linked something like that a couple days ago

need that shit

[junior gale]

Get Critcakes fury WA pack and just take the WW one

It has the fix

[young swan]

yeah im gonna do that later

[radiant plank]

I linked it in

ui weakauras addons

[junior gale]

I had to do it as well

[radiant plank]

its made by vozochris btw

ty @zenith jackal

[chilly bay]

if i was only smart enough to implement the fix to luxthos bar :P

[radiant plank]

this version I linked is a bar

so you can yoink it and put it there

[chilly bay]

oh

nice

[young swan]

fuck its the bar

i figure it out later

w/e

[chilly bay]

the one in crits was counter

fyi

[young swan]

just gonna yoink the custom code and slam it into revvez ui anyways

[zenith jackal]

💞

[tardy hedge]

what i m doing wrong man 🙁

[radiant plank]

I can link normal one

[young swan]

its okay im not loggin in for a bit

surely it wont be hard to implement

[drifting token]

we replied to your last screenshot an hour ago saying it's impossible to tell what's wrong from a details screenshot and you send another with the exact same question again lol.

[young swan]

thanksge

[drifting token]

Critcake is strmaing doing a Halls key right now, watch him

[young swan]

bladestorm damage looks bad

[tardy hedge]

i did watch his stream for while but i still have no clue what i m doing wrong i m doing same rotation as he does

[young swan]

execute damage looks bad

[drifting token]

clearly not

[tardy hedge]

i prio rb in aoe

[radiant plank]

not enough executes for BS CDR and not enough carrying it over to next pack

[young swan]

^

[radiant plank]

so you get overwhelmed up on the whole pack

[tardy hedge]

as some people said its better then execute in aoe

[radiant plank]

Fixed your issue

gl hf

[arctic grotto]

What does this WA do?

[radiant plank]

whirlwind stack counter

but it works asap

and not with delay

[arctic grotto]

Ah

Oh

Need

Thanks

[olive wraith]

It’s not. It’s about even

There’s also a bunch of variables where rb is higher than reap in an overall

[opal monolith]

i have a problem with my dps

my reap the storm dmg is low in keys

[radiant plank]

if you really watched critcake you would notice he presses execute aggressively for bladestorm CDR and holds it for next pack to quickly apply overwhelmed

[opal monolith]

im rampaging to avoid over capping rage

is that the problem?

[radiant plank]

no Tom

[edgy widget]

simplest thing is to figure out how soon you need Bladestorm back off CD

[radiant plank]

what I wrote

IS your problem

[opal monolith]

who says is dont execute

[radiant plank]

Me

[opal monolith]

huh

[radiant plank]

Your reap the storm damage low in keys = Bad execute and BS usage

[weary needle]

Hey guys I have trouble understanding the fury rotation on wowhead…

It isn’t written like any other classes

[radiant plank]

Which part

[olive wraith]

What specifically

[young swan]

im pretty sure like every class in the game uses priority lists now

[opal monolith]

!so execute even when the weakaura says not to?

at the end of packs

to get BS back>

[young swan]

yeah

[radiant plank]

Yes if your target has MFE stacks

and if the pack lives for less than 15s, dont bother to BS

[opal monolith]

so u can still just follow the weakaura?

[olive wraith]

What key level are you doing

[radiant plank]

Yeah but sometimes u wanna snipe at MFE1 or 2

instead of waiting for 3

[olive wraith]

Yes follow the wa

[opal monolith]

i am doing that tho

but i was wasting

bladestorms

at the tial end op packs

[radiant plank]

yeah

[opal monolith]

alot

[olive wraith]

There you go

[edgy widget]

if your Reap damage is very low in keys, the most likely reason is that you're not ensuring Overwhelmed gets applied to each new pack before you start spamming RB

• you basically want to make sure Bladestorm is available for each new pack, because it immediately applies 5-8 stacks, then RB
• if you can't Bladestorm new targets, focus Execute & BT until you can

[olive wraith]

Don’t do that

[radiant plank]

#1 mistake Slayer Fury makes is not playing around BS properly

[edgy widget]

I can guarantee that the issue isn't pressing Execute too much

[radiant plank]

Can u Pin this

[edgy widget]

it's already in literally every guide

[radiant plank]

Clearly not enough

[olive wraith]

Easier to forward if it’s pinned

People just don’t read

[edgy widget]

it's also in #1273899855852339200

[radiant plank]

tbf ppl dont read pins either

[olive wraith]

We can forward the pins though

[smoky vale]

what is this

[weary needle]

There a couple lines saying

RB repeatedly to build up rampage damage stacks

• does that mean I want to rb 5 times max between every ramapage?

And also there’s a line saying rampage over 115 rage, but delay to maximize enrage

• does this mean the 115 rage thing actually doesn’t matter, I just overcap and only ever rampage once my enrage times out?

[edgy widget]

but yeah, @opal monolith, your issue isn't "I'm pressing Exe too much/RB too little"

• that might influence your Reap damage a little bit, but it's not going to be a very noticeable swing
  the issue is almost certainly that you're just not timing Bladestorm well to ensure Overwhelmed is applied

[smoky vale]

have bs up for every pack

[edgy widget]

basically

[smoky vale]

and dont forget to precook bs every key

[olive wraith]

Rb to stack ramp is only after bladestorm

[edgy widget]

you can still use BS twice on some packs, just depends on the timing

[smoky vale]

you can definitely get 3 bs if cds

[olive wraith]

Ramp over 115 to lessen over cap

[modest condor]

in my experience if an enemy has ~100-150mil hp left then it's safe to bladestorm as long as you press sudden deaths as soon as they're available afterwards

[olive wraith]

Think it’s very important to note key level though

I can barely get 2 bs in 14s

[weary needle]

What I was thinking was rampage >115 rage kinda contradicts with delaying to maximize enrage, so what do I actually do?

[sullen dove]

yea idk what pack this guy thinks u can bs 3 times and have a 4th ready for new one

Cuz if there’s that many mobs im just insta spamming rbs

[olive wraith]

How so?

If you need enrage you hit ramp regardless of rage

[modest condor]

pressing at >115 rage is the delaying to maximize enrage

otherwise you would just press it at 80 rage

[radiant plank]

ww stack bar

[junior gale]

The WA that will take all your gold when you open a mailbox

[weary needle]

Oh so that line was the reasoning of 115, instead of telling me to further delay past 115

[olive wraith]

Use ramp at 115

Or if you need enrage

[weary needle]

But priority of RB repeatedly is above 115
So sometimes its correct to overcap if its the enrage window after bs / execute procs right

[olive wraith]

Only after bs. Correct

[weary needle]

Cause im a bit confused that people seem to overcap a lot on aoe when i was digging logs

I can usually only fit in one or two rb during reckless, but people seem to be using more than that

[olive wraith]

some people ignore the prio

[still forum]

how is 82% uptime of enrage in dawnbreaker?

[smoky vale]

means nothing

[olive wraith]

Sounds about right

[still forum]

also is there a way to gauge how id id through details i forgot to log

[graceful cape]

what embellishment for a 720 wepaon?

[smoky vale]

you would have to look at each individual combat time

[olive wraith]

Typo?

[still forum]

how i did

[olive wraith]

Can give a very rough estimate

But even logs won’t give a full story

Like how many targets in a pull etc

[still forum]

also why is it not letting me execute when i have 2 stacks of marked for execution

[young swan]

no SD proc

[olive wraith]

You also need a sd

[iron kernel]

hello guys, what combo better?

1. Screams of a Forgotten Sky + Eradicating Arcanocore
2. Ara-Kara Sacbrood + Eradicating Arcanocore
   Because sim so close, but i dont think that Ara gave me ~5-6% ST

[still forum]

does any1 here use atrocity ui

[radiant plank]

Trust the sim

[still forum]

do i execute when sd glows

[fickle cedar]

screams is better the longer the fight, so if you are in progress its even better, try a 6-7 min sim

[smoky vale]

aui has the execute wa

but i dont use it

so idk

[iron kernel]

I'm trying to believe it, but it seems very strange.

[smoky vale]

not strange

robot knows the truth

[still forum]

what is the execute aura called

[olive wraith]

#dps-faq

[junior gale]

You aren't as smart as a robot

[olive wraith]

There’s one in there

[junior gale]

Trust robot

[chilly bay]

thats something a robot would say

[chilly bay]

as is this

[olive wraith]

Yall trust Archi don’t you?

He helps with the robot

So trust the robot

[fast mural]

fact is robot is only as smart as the people who code it

[olive wraith]

I mean we all follow the wowhead prio

No reason to not follow the robot

[still forum]

https://wago.io/r8u4tHLRQ this one?

[fast mural]

cause robot knows

[olive wraith]

Ya that’s one

Of the wa

[chilly bay]

as a new player trusting the robots and using wa's is one thing kinda seeming silly

what other game makes you use third party robot calculators to play it correctly :P

[fast mural]

well robot plays perfectly and everybody is trying to mimick it

[junior gale]

I'm not a dirty Clanker

I just trust them to do math for me

[fast mural]

any game thats based on numbers

cause it can be solved

other games just dont have the tools we have in wow

but people are making spreadsheets etc

[vivid onyx]

what sbest to sim for ?

[junior gale]

Path of exile

They have their own sim bots too

[chilly bay]

yeah just seemed silly watching guild progress mythic raid and the biggest problem with fractilus was peple on wrong versions of weak auras :P

[olive wraith]

Robot is an optimization. People want to do the most damage they can

If you don’t care. Then don’t sim

[fiery tide]

poggies 2x, mythic araz weapons

[chilly bay]

ofcourse i sim cause im dirty big number lover :P

[fast mural]

just curious what is the different between asking a robot and looking up a guide ?

[modest condor]

fellowship (standalone game based on wow m+) also already had a very primitive sim made during the open test a couple of months ago

[fast mural]

cause the guide is based on the robot

and also third party

[chilly bay]

dunno it just feels kinda "cheating" to have a weakaura robot tell you what to do during an encounter

[coarse nest]

is that like any good even? havent watch or read anything about it whatsoever

[fossil glade]

how do i get the SD WA to play the sound loud? i cant hear it at all for some reason.

[modest condor]

i think it was fun yeah, but i feel like it's gonna be even more seasonal than wow, more like something like diablo or poe or something

[fast mural]

those mechanic WA only become crazy if boss design is bad enought to need it
there are ways to make mechanics solvable without it but blizz makes bosses with WAs in mind at this point

[modest condor]

where everybody plays in the first couple of weeks and then pisses off again until the next season

[fast mural]

just look at FF14

[olive wraith]

Until midnight

Apparently

We’ll see

[coarse nest]

ahh i see thatll be interesting

[fast mural]

if we had those numbers / dots over our heads on echo of neltharion p1 wouldnt have needed a WA

[fast mural]

check what sound channel its using it might be muted

should be under conditions

[undone flower]

YAM YAM only plate on reclear

[fast mural]

F

[coarse nest]

pog

get all the loot

[fast mural]

and no plate will drop now

[austere hearth]

why is simming jastor still that high ?

[olive wraith]

It’s a good ring

[austere hearth]

but everyone has it allready switched against hc track rings

[fast mural]

Wasn't jastor bugged

[junior gale]

then you join them

and swap off it

[radiant plank]

Install WA and fix your jastor

[winter shoal]

Never bugged for me but some people said it was for them

I swapped off it this week tho

[fast mural]

Damn that's pretty late

I swapped for hero track rings week1

[humble shadow]

How much dps loss is it not bringing monk to Myth raid?

[winter shoal]

Was better than hero rings until I got a new weapon with different stats

[winter shoal]

5ish%

[fast mural]

Depends on how many phys specs you have

Or are you talking for an individual?

[humble shadow]

2 warr, 1hunt, dk, dh, pally, dk and druid tank

Total

[winter shoal]

🔮

[worn rain]

this tbh

[humble shadow]

Ppl Say its like 0,3% raid dps

[winter shoal]

How good are the players? How good is their gear? Are they getting PI? Do they get targeted by mechanics and have downtime?

Literally no way to answer that question in isolation

[humble shadow]

I know

[sullen dove]

it’s just like a flat 5% to those players no

Regardless of how well they play

[winter shoal]

Not dk

[fast mural]

Take the warriors and hunters and remove 5%
The other specs have too much magic going on

[sullen dove]

don’t think very complicated

Sure dk with 10% of its dmg Being physical

[winter shoal]

Yeah it's anywhere between some dps and no dps

[sullen dove]

then .5%

[smoky vale]

what

me when dk isnt phys

[fast mural]

If those warriors are pumping it might be more than 0.3%

[sullen dove]

you melee pred

[winter shoal]

non-KM oblit is phys innit

[smoky vale]

if you press more than 5 no km oblits

you need to be hunted

[winter shoal]

#fury message

[fast mural]

Melee hits are physical tho

[smoky vale]

i aint reading up

yeah bro

[fast mural]

So even mage auto attacks might get buffed

[smoky vale]

5% of 7m over 5m

blow up

[winter shoal]

gio who hurt you

[smoky vale]

the robot

[trail bane]

Our guild just got 2 warbound hero antennas and 1 mythic antenna from our reclear this week

Pretty guud

[dense fulcrum]

u guys still going thane or slayer on forgeweaver?

[winter shoal]

Played both

[trail bane]

Slayer

[winter shoal]

Thane good add dam but worse boss dam

[fast mural]

Slayer 100%

[dense fulcrum]

do u wait to use cd or just send at pull?

[smoky vale]

deathbringer

[winter shoal]

Slayer more boss dam, slightly lower add dam

[trail bane]

Send on pull

[fast mural]

Thane falls of once people start obliterating adds

[dense fulcrum]

started prog tonight trying to undrstand how to use stuff

[trail bane]

After that they line up pretty well with adds

So just hold a few seconds for adds after the pull one

[winter shoal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1261864072752795749/1347748934692372612/image.png?ex=68c2d441&is=68c182c1&hm=c7fdac83c106cedb44e4a1985f1b547437c3eaf29cb87bf917b5ae57768e03a1&

[winter shoal]

If you're just starting I'd say thane is probably easier to plug and play and will prevent some add-related issues early on

Slayer is probably better later

For reference I did 3.3m boss dps as thane, 3.9m as slayer. Thane did 1.9m add dam, slayer did 1.8m (but I also had slightly better gear from reset)

[dense fulcrum]

okok

[winter shoal]

I'd say once your guild is getting to intermission consistently, swapping to slayer is probably a decent idea

Unless other people are doing no add dam

thane has more consistent add dam since you won't necessarily have BS for every add spawn

[dense fulcrum]

i'll try now with thane

[smoky vale]

but you also might create this false expectation when you swpa to slayer

so

[dense fulcrum]

it was good with slayer too but yeah we're having some issue with adds cuz nobody did this we're all 1st time

[smoky vale]

do you have a dk player

or

[winter shoal]

fdk should be milking adds ya

[smoky vale]

because

if they are using cooldowns wrong you will lose

[dense fulcrum]

we have one dk

[versed glen]

would anyone be willing to take a look at a log for me to help me figure out what im doing wrong?

[undone flower]

i'm getting all the loot

[smoky vale]

make sure they are using cds well

[hoary swan]

has anyone heard about WA issues? Looks blizzard broke something again, I get a noticeable desync between WA and in game cooldown timers

[smoky vale]

wha

wahts this weeks affix

[hoary swan]

It was 15 key

so not the affix

[daring coral]

what trinkets are yall using? been smacking the dummies and it seems like pace/sacbrood was giving me more dps over idol/antenna