#fury
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you just castsequence rb rb rb ramp ww and mash that on repeat
you cant macro 2 things on the gcd together no
only way you can do that is by doing a castsequence macro and that most of the time blows (outside DF S3 xdd)
DF s3 wasn’t actually castsequence, it was just a quirk of how temporary spell overrides work
Last cast sequence we used with any regularity was I think Shadowlands, w Torment lego
And the anvil trinket in DF I guess
Yeah i guess. We at least did good on a couple of bosses in Amirdrassil just using RB - BT - Slam - Ramp repeat macro
or rather, it was mostly for fun, but it did way too good for pressing 1 button
Put your lootspec to arms
Because technically you can play smf and use 1h weapons
Because you Can play smf?
what is to fix? you have loot spec fury
I thought fury was always a two handed spec\
We use 2h because its better but technically it is not an exclusive two handed spec
cause you dont use arms lootspec
rookie mistake
I played fury since I started in Legion Ive never had this issue T_T
Also very important when you open your vault btw
when is turbo boost comin
You got extremely lucky
Right now! does a sick skid
if its BFA then holy shit....
I havent had a single one handed weapon on my fury
Oh wow i also didnt know....so switch spec to arms ?
Fury > Arms
idk, I thought it was always a two handed spec because of the artifact weapon in legion, and the fact I didnt have one handed weapons drop for me in dungeons or raids
I only knew you can equip them for transmogs
In Legion and BFA SMF didn’t exist
smf was introduced in cata, was removed in legion with artifacts, and brought back in SL
They got rid of it in the Legion prepatch when they mailed every warrior 2 handers
Time for that weekly disappointment
I'll experience it for the both of us today
T chest right ? trink bad ?
use raidbots sim
10k?!
na struggles 😄
LETS GO!!!!!
in eu we got like 3k que at reset
cg
am I getting skyreaved chat
bruh I only experienced hundreds
never thousands
I've seen 5k
in last vault i had 3210 in morning 😄
weapon finally?
See belt take belt
with speed huge
Speed? 👀
speed?
hello there are french in your serv beacause i need help ?
yes
hero antenna or myth shoulders
Also if you press button harder
oh shizz , my chest got speed as well
Myth shoulders
we ZUGGING
i think antenna but do sim for it
clear heroic first
hero antenna
and my T helm got speed
that's a good point, at least hold for hero loom
i hope i get weapon in next vault 🙂
I hope so too. Gotta wait till tomorrow
yep
hello im returning player from season 1, do I need to set my loot spec to arms still before opening vault?
yes
best to yes
ok ty!
what off piece we using for our set?
helm ideally
I only have tier to pick from.
vault either m tier helm or shoulders, was curious thanks
i guess too if i do end up taking hero antenna, i can safely dump a bunch of gilded crests into upgrading hero pieces up to 710
is it worth taking a myth belt nowadays?
I like to hold crests until I’ve recleared everything for the week and then I sim crest upgrades before prog boss
show me % pls 😄
It will be better than the delve belt eventually yes
i'm rerunning the sim rq to include the myth sack of terror
Not necessarily now depends on gear
i simmed crated 720 belt a small upgrade over delv belt like .2%, so i imagine a 723 with decent stats would be an upgrade too if you're otherwise looking at sockets
neck would be best right? astral is good but its only heroic
thats bait
I reckon I take BiS helm and can wait til I get shoulders to come around again to catalyze into myth ones but waiting on robo
youre baiting me
i think antenna is better but do sims
interesting i would say that would do like 2% atleast
Why are we setting loot spec to arms for vault?
to avoid 1h
so you dont get a 1hander
Ahhh thank you
shit...
looking good
if you pick fury loot spec, blizzard thinks hey this guy might be a smf enjoyer
big upgrade this week
Might be sac angle for raid
does the sac-brood trinket still cover you in eggs?
or is there a way to shut that shit off?
There it is
Can’t wait to see mine today
nice

gloves with speed, bis weapon, myth helmet
Really sad they have a SMF talent they can tune with and could make it relevant at any point. And don’t.
weapon all day everyday
Never a world you don’t take that myth weapon unless one is already equipped
Omega rare
i think they should just let us mog to 1handers and delete the talent
bro i dont have enough valorstones
easier to balance imo
it may... but I think it's hardly an increase over Sacbrood
Gloves, Chest, or Shoulders.
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/axbHAkpo79NuPkxMSaXQDB
running some sims
Wow you got prism 
i think this prism is good
for this raid
because it was like 710 Sacbrood = 723 Ticking Sack
Trying to track overwhelmed but cant get it to work, anyone know if this spell id is right? 445836
have 2p on chest and legs (champ) / 2 cata charges
skip the mythic chest for hero tier?
Uh nah man you take myth chest
i think im just gonna end up taking shoulders, .9 vs 1.1 with the hero antenna, but im gonna be farming hero raid for a while anyways, and we'll eventually get turbo boost
Never would you ever take a hero chest > myth chest
Wait till after you raid. But mythic chest is nice
and that's just offensive value, shoulders have defensive value too
is so'leah sims bugged or something?
surely take myth chest with leech even tho myth chest drops off firstboss
only other item is champ > myth gloves but like those are 2nd boss so who cares
cluegi
Leech proc giga
Christ on a Cross. 17 minute sim queue
is the trinket worth in 723? i dont have any mythic tierset
are u commited to mythic raiding
like will u get 6/8 or 8/8 m this tier
probably yes
Idol is solid for an M+ only person
I feel like it’s hard to pass up myth track tier slot items
Especially chest/legs
The highest stat weighted slots
Also
A factor for idol to consider
Is if you do both mythic raid and try to push high keys then idol is a solid choice
myth antenna is an insta take right?
depends
not always
Yes
if you have have loom on farm
vs myth gloves lom on farm but alot of people can use it
Depends what gear you have honestly
honestly sim shows heroic screams myth sacbrood as my bis (currecnt equipped) which surprised me
but i feel like end goal antenna bis
No end goal is mythic screams
pretty much yes, if your vault is highly contested (you have more than 1 insane item) you could wait until mythic reclear but otherwise just take it, cause literally everyone wants it, and 1 less loom trinket to hand out is insane
depends on what you have for gear honestly and what the other options were in vault
so many factors
my ST sim is showing myth Soleah as an 800k increase replacing 710 Screams? The hell?
this is my gut feeling
this isnt right
if its the only crazy bis item in your vault then i would take it
link sim
yeah
also keep in mind we have dinar soontm
good point
but if you have champ pieces on tier slots like some of the other guys posted before and you have chance at tier myth track
I guess the fact that we only really have dinars for trinkets this tier.. yeah it’s an ok option
anyone here on soul hunters and onward know about how much of your antenna you lose with all the movement? I'm wondering if myth track warpclaw/sack of terror would be good to grab to have on high movement fights until I get something ebtter
looking at top logs "a majority" of people use double dmg trinkets. because of accessibiliy at this stage?
Well aren’t all trinkets double damage?
Do you mean passive?
sims are going to tell me to take the weapon but i should sim it anyways
its def bad on salhadaar and dimensius
prob bad on soul hunters too
yea
we should kill fractilus this week
we had like 20m at the end of last week for him so I thin ktaking one of those would be smart for the upcoming bosses
hey guys is there a hard fast answer on haste and how much we want before DR or anything like that for Fury stats and does it differ between M+ and Raid if so
Highly dependent on gear currently available to you
@sullen dove voodoo backfired
There is never a hard fast answer for any stat related question
sorry yes i meant trinket with dmg proc as opposed to stat proc ie. screams
I think it’s just the fact that the damage proc trinkets are tuned well this time around
And we already have a ton of stats
generally the sim tells you to stop getting haste around 35% but sim ur guy
ive seen it higher and lower
do 10s give you max crests?
we dont have execute phase
12s I believe
Nah
so its just part of priority
always does
O i thought it did extra damage during low health, but because of sudden death doesnt matter.
myth chest leech can’t complain no weapon still sad though
any pants fans
u need some legs
cba 8 keys
Missing slot banned
Would you guys put loot spec fury or arms when playing both fury / prot for weapons (Fury main spec)
When opening vault**
tier hands mythic or pacemaker mythic sims are almost the same =S Which to chose
Checkin my sims, its tellin me a 710 sacbrood is better than 723 ticking sack of terror, is this possible? I've seen a lot of people running with the ticking terror, so I was expecting this to be a huge upgrade, but apparently not.
I just wanna make sure that the sims aren't whacked up for some reason
i believe weapons are a lot more relevant for fury than they are for prot
so i would jsut sit arms spec
Was my plan aswell
fury propaganda
I raid in fury spec
wtf is going on withc gilded crests shouldnt it be a 120 increase each week?
it should be at 480
not 450
Isn’t it 90 per week
90 per week
120 x 4 is 600 btw
Hey math is hard
Math
smartest warrior player
its not 600

btw
120 + 120 + 120 = 360 + 120 = 480
Square root something something
got a question about brutal finish.
is it worth overcapping rage to buff the rampage following bladestorm and if yes "how much"?
is astral antenna good for m+?
yes very good
just found a heroic antenna in my vault
struggling to pick between that and mythic tier
when simming for m+ do we do dungeon slice ?
Spam raging blow until you run out of enrage (exe conditionals are still higher prio than rb)
already have a heroic sacbrood, which the sims are showing as pretty much equivalent, yet every guide says its a massive difference. Any chance I can offset this with a haste flask?
No it’s only currently optimized for warrior yet unless walhe finished cooking
^
ok and regarding the exe conditionasl
oly weapon
Hi, two newbie questions. Do you always have to use Rampage with +100 Rage, or can you use it with less?
Then, is there an aura with a sound that tells you when you can use Rampage?
i think im waiting for reclear to see if i get araz wep
i just installed the weakaura do i only exe when it kachings or always when it pops up?
Kaching
ty
is heroic antenna worth it, if i already have Mythic Soleah's and Heroic Sac?
How good is Cursed stone Idol?
very
real good
I simmed it and its a 2 percent increase in Mplus
which is good but my Heroic tier helmet is a 1.5 percent increase
I do the raid alot too so not sure which to take
yo, do we get another 3% damage buff this week?
cursed stone idol only really has value in m+
no its not buff week its the enchant increase week
whats enchant increase week
I already have like 4 good trinkets so IDK if I actually need it
do we even ahve 4 good trinkets
Well idk lol
yes
For M+ we do, for raid not really xdd
Raid, Antenna, screams, arcano core, arakara
I have secret technique, signet, Aranocore and sack of terror
m+ antenna idol ara pacemaker
arcanocore, tickling sack, screams are all exclusively good in ST, sacbrood and pacemaker are mediocre generalist trinkets, idol is only good for m+
its kinda just antenna thats like
actually good
So with those trinket should I take Cursed idol or you guys tyh8ink heroic head
how long do you guys sit on gilded crests before dumping into 710 upgrades
taking heroic tier when u can just catalyze is troll i think
Full send after re clear before prog boss
Got 4pc today, Wheres the build that i use now the replaces BT talents
I just looked there, but i will check a third time
It def has the talent builds
That is hte old one with high BT focus?
Which 2 trinkets are ideal for M+ im running sac brood and arcano core, but I just got offered a screams.
vault is absolutely CRACKED this week
That’s not the s3 slayer one
sac and arcano probably better than screams for M+, screams probably better than sac for raid
screams kinda garbo in M+ imo
weapon kinda large
Also for ST?
damn, I would think the on death ability would be better
Thats what it says on the wowhead link for Fury ST
already have a mythic weapon so probably not that. Most likely antenna because its so contested
the radius is too small and kinda gimmicky, and it just never really gets a chance to stack much to begin with
No that's M+, the ST build didn't change after the hotfix
valid
Antenna vs sac in m+?
How long is a piece of string
both? what else you got lol
O, i did not know that, thank you
Hotfix made 0 difference in single target
723 soleah's
Because RB casts and RB targets hit will always both be one

If only there were a way to simulate your own character with different items equipped
Like a bot that tells you what’s good for raid?
do u think myth track sack of terror > hero sac/so'leah/pacemaker as replacement for antenna? this weeks vault is making me think which im terrible at 🙁
they're all equal practically lol. thus the question
Might be a socket angle then I fear
ummmm
yeah thats really cursed
idk
i got my tickler from hardmode
My vault has 3 bracers and a pair of boots 😭
If they're equal I'd probably play sac just bc it's impossible to fuck up, or take socket
Oh my that’s definitely a sad one
We’ll see if mythic boots outsim champ wraps, but likely gonna be a socket week
Well if it's the special boots that's kinda cool
after bladestorm hitting rampage after 2 rb's seem so prolonged because i have to refresh ww
They are not unfortunately
I've been refreshing WW before I storm to avoid that regardless of stacks
Bladestorm. Then you have 4 gcds you can send rbs on potentially before rampaging
yeah the opportunity cost for taking ticky is upgrade to myth track boots neither equipped or vault is soul hunter boots or a socket its cringe
yeah im kinda coming to this conclusion mysefl
Is unyielding netherprism good for us? I already have mythic arcanocore, heroic screams, and heroic antenna
and sometimes with the sudden death chaching executes it prolongs it further
Sim question but generally no
My wowaudit is showing a 2% increase in AOE
But I’m asking here because that seems like 🧢
i mean depending on your other trinkets that could be correct
but it's still not a good choice
Then it’s a pass for me, thanks
Is nether prism the big on use Str one?
the stacking str on use
Would go hard if we were burst profile
would go hard if strength was good for us
True
Biggest issue for me is at least in raid it starts at no charges
unlucky its literally half as valuable per point as secondaries
I stack intellect now
And first key pull.
im pretty sure u can precook it for keys at least
but yeah sucks for raid
outside of heavy damage amp bosses
do we think they may nerf reap? 
No
Yes if you need more damage specifically for dimmy phase 3 netherprism could be goated
it wouldnt
But again we don't really like str anyways
goodgood i will come back and roast you if it does get nerfed 
Ok
I mean they might tone it back. But I doubt it. Other specs do the same/more and fury isn't broken in raid I don't think.
So we won't see the same "fury is dominating heroic, better nerf them into the dust" thing
In keys
but they were sandbagging
what classes are even prism users rn besides rogue and hunter
Alright Skyholders, 63k 5 target 90s sim for trinket (over neck) for M+ or 18.5k ST 5 min for neck (over trinket) for raid? What would y'all choose? We're 4/8M
500k total 5 target upgrade for trinket or 52k ST upgrade for neck over current
hi, idk if it was asked before, but is there any reason to choose the talent "cold steel"(bleed) over "critical thinking"(crit damage raging blow) ? C.thinking look better, i don't get it (for slayer)
Cold steel s a little better for st, otherwise you dont care about it in m+
avoidance on neck is a nice extra
I take CSHB because that talent name is awesome. (But no i don't think so)
You still cast bt a decent amount through bladestorm. So cshb has some value. Happened to be slightly better than 1 ct
feral, dh
dk
maybe ret? idk
i thought dh only uses it on bosses for pad?
129812947814.1232101294480981401% buff
Roughly
Stuck deciding between mythic stone idol or mythic pacemaker. Idol wins the sims but having a cast time makes me wary.
Idol is the best aoe trinket
idol is m+ bis
How does it make you wary
i read you can cast during charge. can it also be cast during BS?
Plus it’s nice having the stats on demand
It cannot
Bladestorm is a channel isn’t it?
1 sec channel for more zug zuggington. Yes please
puzzlebox was castable during BS wasn't it?
I don’t think puzzy was
no
are you guys enjoying thane or slayer on fury right now? I cant deny I see the high damage output of slayer but thane feels so good and consistent
it only worked with the old blademasters torment for arms
To busy adhd strafing during beyblade to trinket
i swear it was.
it wasnt
ah ok
you could macro it with blademasters torment
^
But not normal BS
is patchwerk 5 target the preferred sim method for m+?
I just sim st. And vibe trinkets
calling thane consistent is funny
i prefer slayer atm
once you get the hang of slayer , you wont go back
I searched our discord for something regarding sims, is dungeon slice an accurate sim for us or do you guys do patchwerk 5 bosses
Look up half a page
so, do you only use idol during charge? or just cast on cooldown?
on cd as much as is reasonable
Both really
use it during charge if u can
they're both accurate for modelling what they are but its in your hands to figure out whether they are meaningful for what you're trying to achieve
not a big deal if not
As bad as it might feel casting it in melee. It’s still a big boost
Hi, two newbie questions. Do you always have to use Rampage with +100 Rage, or can you use it with less?
Then, is there an aura with a sound that tells you when you can use Rampage?
u can use it with less but generally dont want to as their are higher priority globals
u can make an aura that does that pretty easily but wow has an in built graphic that tells you when rampage is usable
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps check this page for the first question, for your second question a weakaura like that isn't very common cause it'd blow your ear off in like 5 minutes of gameplay and is not really that useful, also you have the visual as xan said
Ye just follow the prio. People trying too hard to game reap procs
interestin. ty guys
Seems like the renown 6 buff this week isn't active yet? Walked in, saw no increase in anything. Tried logging out, re-equipping, re-applying, nothin.
No
those are slated for 11.2.5
how do we sim for m+
It looks like belts aren’t using their special effect
1T 5m, 5T 3m, 5T 1.5m. Can do 3 and 8 target as well for variety of timers
I was away for a week, what did I miss, why is Fury suddenly ahead of arms again. Is this the Slayer changes?
#updates-midnight is a good place to start
why do the reccomended builds in #dps-faq use frenzied enrage instead of powerful enrage Ive been doing more overall dps with powerful than frenzied
Tough vault, I'm using heroic sac and champ arcanocore. In my vault I got a mythic cursed idol and a mythic arcanocore, but i'm most likely defaulted the mythic arcanocore if it does end up dropping in my raid.
Pick idol its huge for M+ and no one really cares about arcanocore
crit is crazy value now
my sim said to use710 pacemaker over 723 sacbrood
Fkn hate vault days haha
arcanocore from vault is somewhat troll but so is idol for your raids prog
Walked away with 714 gloves with avoidance
Boys i have a question, the jastor is still siming better for me over other 710 rings combinations in pretty much ever scenario, should i change it for ilvl anyways?
yeah
i would, you have to ring swap before every pull for the proc to actually fire consistently
Yea I’m saving my upgrades incase core and araz weapon drop . Fkn core is a 135k dps upgrade lol
Slayer really likes haste.
Thanks guys
are you wearing a pvp trinket or how is it 135k christ
710 sac and 710 screams
But yea it’s gigantic
Weapon + tricket is 230k kind of nutty
Wait till you get lucky
You reap was ass. Wait till it pops off hahaha
Buff Bm
Still feels way better than it ever has. Slayer is a blast to play in keys compared to thane
100% but wait till you get lucky on procs and then youll feel like a god lol
Not sure what luck has to do with it
sometimes u can get unlcuky on reap procs
whether it be reap actually proccing or not, or just crit chacne
I mean I don’t know how else to say it.
What can said
Xan*
you can have a run where reap is as active as a hooker ona. Friday night
Or a run where I have a chance of catching herpes a 3rd time than reap proccing
That won't ever happen if you're managing overwhelmed stacks normally
your analogies need work
It's not that swingy
Do people help with vault choices here? My warrior isn't on a raid team so I'm not sure what to pick here honestly.
https://raider.io/characters/us/illidan/Adrenaline
Sims keep giving different answers
I thought if you always went into packs with bladestorm its quite consistent?
or am i thinking of something else l0l
That's right
Issue is more you need stuff to live for a while rather than rng
whats ur preferred content type
I do more m+ than raid. I already raid on a feral Druid. The warrior is a character I boosted on the 28th and I'm just been jamming with
idol
100%
i did a nm raid for first time to see what my logs would be like out of curiousity
an it outshines any other character i play so far
😂
I'm the token orange buff because our healers are priest shaman monk players
can someone explain why you want to delay pressing rampage after your bladestorm? something I saw said you want to dump RB after RB once BS finishes
When do you use it in keys?
like is there some nuanced talent that I'm not seeing
Slaughtering strikes
on cooldown/with other cooldowns
Rampage does 50% more after blade storm, hit two blows after rampage for 40% more more damage
brutal finish + slaughtering strikes
hey! can someone advice me about the priority using slayer ? on aoe situtations
Wowhead has the prio
Yea but 2 is safe if you didn't get procs in storm
Go check that and come back to ask questions
aah I see, thanks guys
dude calm lmao
Was that not calm?
response of "calm down" sounds like a troll
probably comes across passive agressive when read
Wowhead has the prio
How is that passive aggressive lol. It’s direct

wowhead has the prio was the ok answer, anything after that was not necessary
some people can read stuff that way 
Come back and ask questions is bad?
I'm also confused loll
irony on the horizon
Every discord server ever made really is the same man
i will go and check sure
and then i will come back and ask more questions
👍
Be calm about it though
why u talk to me now bud
Woah be calm dude
I try mate
For real
Just boot him
i wil die trying
Respect
Go to ret forum u belong
why is that so?
He’s stacking rage rn. Maybe it’s a new pre pull strat
stop replying
xan what is pred
It's also about maximizing your enrage and ww stacks, most of the time I can get 1-2 RBs before going into rampage, essentially RB will cause a lot of your damage, with reap being tied to that, so you really wanna use rampage and ww as a way to just keep your buffs up
And why aren’t you sky
He asking specifically after bladestorm. The things you said aren’t as relevant in that scenario
I mean- if you’re using the OF build, you’ll often use that to reset enrage instead, and the buff to Rampage if I remember correctly doesn’t scale well in AoE anyway, so in that context, I can see why someone would just go BS, Roar, OF, RB RB RB…
Attuned to the Aether is that only oils or chest legs enchants ect
Reading the card explains the card on that one, bud.
what miss % chance do you guys sim an antenna with? 10%? 15? 20?
@tepid cedar hows raid going king
10% on little to no movement tfights
20+% on anything where you gotta run around
Gotcha, thanks
I just cut my losses and leave it on 20 cause i account for my own error
The item is cringe to use
Should roar and of before bs
very cringe
!plater
On m+ i would prob leave it at 10% a lot easier to see the orbs from my experience
But raid im operating on a dream for most fights that the orbs will make it to me
is there a way to look into logs and see the missed % during a given pull or nah
but it is, you use rampage and ww to get your buffs up, then go into bladestorm, you still have enrage and ww stacks up, so you maximize those buffs instead of refreshing them prematurely, RB's priority goes way up, and therefore you want to press it even if you can use rampage
yea...
should that not be a B instead of a M
1.3m raging blow damage is like a single raging blow
or is that dps of each spell
odd meter
me when im in a say help for no reason competition and my opponent is gio
look my boxes
brood all day
Pacemaker or Arcanocore?
true
if you regularly do mythic every week pretty high likelihood you'll just get it eventually
strength only trink no one else rly wants it
3 or 4 Times I kill the first without seeing arcanocore drop
Yea i haven't seen it yet either
di9d dawnbreaker get nerf'd?
Not officially noted no
jsut did a dawn 14 and it was a joke
neat
perhaps had a competent group
shocker
just did a 12 priory felt like i was soloing

with new new hotfix shall we focus more on versa and haste ?
sim it
roger that
reap the storm buff
was like a week ago atp, reap stuff updated in raidbots tho so can sim 5 or more target aoe for variable amounts of time if you want to see if there would be any changes but yea wouldnt say just cause 1 ability does more dmg u worry about any specific stats
all stats still help reap as well as rest of your dam
in general sure but when its late into the season other stats start to pick up more value
like 30%ish haste 50-60% ish mast usually common and now im gettin a lot more into verse and crit and stuff
ok
dont really need to worry about stats on individual pieces as much tho since usually just like sim as you get a new piece to see if its good
dimensius ring is my biggest upgrade
thoughts
or droptimizer what you want to look for
big livelord
that shield effect thing does seem kind of wild for the raid no
all of it is cosmic dmg
and psure that cape procs a lot
just 800k absorb to a majority of the raids damage every so often
What is the proc rate ?
little bit here and there prolly helps healers good bit
just procs every time your cloak dmg procs i imagine no
yea that too
that's a lot of hp across a raid fight that healers dont have to heal
800k on 18 ppl on the ring is a lot of absorb
Y
is there a software to disabled all the enrage red aura on our charatcer?
Yes
I, as a person with 99s healing logs, say 800k good
Go ret
No thanks
My man wants this tgough
floodgate, is it even possible to breat fdks man? i like had great BS set ups for all but like 2 pulls and still couldn't keep up in these aoe pulls
Yeah ddos them
LOL
Unplug your Internet when they are bursting
So your logs don’t record their burst
Seriously though if you wanna pad
Try the odyns build
New to fury warrior as of yesterday so dumb question incoming that has probably been asked a thousand times, but is it always hold reck to combo with avatar or worth using separate if up earlier
one grants u the other no need to align them
very bottom row middle talent of the class talent tree
Yeah but that’s only 8 sec not the full duration?
use them on cd as much as possible
Ok thanks
Full send. Every time
everytime u hear chaching, do you hit execute next gcd? or can it wait a few
Does anyone know how bad incorporeal warp claw is? It rolled leech lol
If I can bladestorm, no
makes sense ty
In my brain it is when it reach 3 mfe that I need to press more asap
If you’re holding anything, it’s if Bladestorm and one of those buttons are within like- 4 seconds of each other max. Even then, some might see that as a loss not worth taking.
Tettles is a asshat. Trying to get Fury nerfed with his podcast.
whats his podcast?
The Bench
Back this week talking about Beast Mastery Hunters sandbagging... right?
Twitter: https://x.com/TheBenchWOW
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1O51OOcq7FwLAFCVDMxe5p
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-bench-wow-podcast/id1760085356
Hosts:
https://www.twitch.tv/tettles
https://www.twitch.tv/yumytv
https://www.twitch....
is this a cook?
Im pretty sure he is joking about it
i told him about it after our raid last week and then he spent the next day watching critcake
It certainly sounds like he's wanting a nerf. Going on about how OP it is, or "broken" it is.
hes not even doing that tho
not really anyways
we did get hotfixed to the moon
thats objectively true
I think the moon might be a bit of a stretch
he then went on to say "yeah if prot slides or frost dk slides its possible fury sneaks into the meta comp"
its not
we went from the worst spec in the game to top 3
And this weeks wowhead post on raid stats (the useless 95 percentile shit) was little bit sandbagging tbf
why havoc ?
buffs magic damage
for the brewmaster ?
(black arrow)

also just has ungodly funnel
its good
this is how I know Blizz hates me for finding all their bugs 🥲
always has been
isn't this just standard build but you removed imp bt for UF and 1 point critical for invigorating fury
Imp BT -> Invig is a pretty standard change
1 CT -> UF isn't worth
brm/rsham/feral/war/war
trust
actually archi how relevant is windfury for fury
I just remember it being huge for arms last season
in M+ not very
aa rage gain yawn
it's mostly the mastery
thought so
It’s not like fdk who get killing machine procs from sham buff
what are u guys crafting with your sparks now?
Ring most likely for me
same
I already have mythic weapon with 2 vers waists+Wrist
ring/neck is a solid filler option, but really just anything that has an open spot that you don't expect to get a M piece for anytime soon
Making 1 good one for free big
dw surely my guild gets me myth entropy
Yeah, I’ll see when I can craft, I have : leg/chest/belt/1ring left as possible slot
ring is good cause even if you loot one next week, you've still got a second slot to keep the craft in for awhile
neck is usually a good choice, but soulbinder is fairly accessible
Or neck if you don’t raid, the rng to fall on the good neck in the m+ rows isn’t something I bet on
just about any can be good if you gear around it
Verse mast floodgate Haste verse gambit haste mast halls
good brother. we start soul hunters, or we going to nexus. not sure yet
but yeah being able to pick your secondaries makes neck a solid craft option as well
ones with crit maybe mildly less ideal but crit neck prolly still fine
Upgrading from last season diamond, would you guys chose a heroic logic gate alpha or a champion band of the shattered soul? Hard to figure out how useful the reishi wrap cantrip is?
Yes this season is good, but S2…..
I mean I got a crit weapon and its fine, only like a 0.1-2% diff
I would sim it
Yea secondaries on weapon is like 5% of value tho
Ilvl king
But jewelry have like 10k stats
can anyone post that reap the storm gif
the shattered soul thing is pretty nice, cause cosmic encompasses a lot of magical damage types, but it's also not offensive so not usually your main priority
unless you do content where living is a serious concern, I wouldn't put too much emphasis on it
What do you mean? As in he's always calling for nerfs to everything that's not boomkin?
I prepare my prayer for my vault tomorrow morning I need a chest or leg 🙏
Hell ya, we killed soul hunters yday, gonna give it 3 pulls today to see if we can yoink a cheeky reclear and if not we just go to nexus king for more prog
Are we not liking Soleah's?
I have it in myth, it cost me gilded crests to be better than my hero trinkets
Remember that time they published elemental changes on the PTR too late for the theorycrafters to feel confident in their assessment and it launched doing like 30% more damage than the next spec? good times
IS SANDBAGGING THE NEW META?
always has been
no, I don't pay attention to lesser classes
but that wasn't really intentional sandbagging, that was just blizzard pushing bullshit waaaaay too late
real talk though, I'd rather they push shit late than not at all
Only scroll all the way down when a patch note is published
and during PTR at all is better than after launch
Oh, yeah that's true.
nice how long did it take u guys
give what 3 pulls, fractillus? He's a joke
Soul hunters
Amen! 
Fraccy is 1 shot
oh I see, you killed soul hunters yesterday ie. last reset
I personally don’t like soulhunter
I played Thane for it, but I might try Slayer this week
I did Slayer on H and it was fine, but Thane just feels easier/more forgiving
The amounts of time i leapt to the devourer only to see an eradicate spawned on top of him
I nearly shit myself every time
I did pulls as slayer, it seems the best, but switched thane after because like you say, it seems easier
THANK YOU BOIS YOU THE BEST
Few days of prog but tbh we mental boomed so hard last thursday it was insanely killable in 2-ish dedicated prog days
who
Yeah I'd say like 2-2.5 prog days is pretty solid for Soul Hunters
The fight is short, it kinda helps
tettles
its not a bad fight, it's just an absolute clusterfuck
Went from hitting final intermission first pull to like 25 pulls straight of just disgusting gameplay and then our raid lesd went nonverbal from personal tilt
is there anyway to make a castsequence macro for stone idol
1 free detilting weekend later we kill it like 4 pulls into monday
oh right
Just mechanics spam i thought it was hilarious
That exactly how it went on my first night on it 
Listening to the ranged pinging for their debuffs and screaming and kicking and then im getting stacked on in melee for the hunt 
this fake flavor of the month hype we are getting is what is gonna get us nerfed next expansion lmao, especially after poddy C hyped it up
I mute pings on them
when did poddyc talk about it?
like timestamp
Yeah but as thane you just brain off hit boss and vibe. Leap out to pick up souls, stand in your hunt soak, ezpz
latest ep, pretty sure it's in chapters but I can check
They vaguely mention fury let me find the timestamp
I mean in theory yes, but there's still a lot of shit going on, and when the raid starts struggling, you start dying
Sounds like a healer problem idk
only reason im asking is because max has a visceral indifference towards warrior
it is, and ours are ehhh
is arcanocore worthit to get in vault over a tier chest mythic rank?
Our loom/forge prog death logs look wild
cant imagine him ever actually talking about it outside of the tierlists
It wasn't vauge, they went on about fury for quite some time
both can be upgraded to 723. sims are 0.1% appart with arcanorcore leading
but only by a little
for real though, that soul soak fucking hurts; last week I lept into one and charge took me on a wild path right through the other two 
geegee
I also got up to like 6 stacks of the intermission soak cause people just... don't
I'd take chest personally, nobody really wants arcanocore and it's from first boss so your odds of getting it are very high
but can?
oh theres like a 1.5m chapter
arcanocore drops from the first boss, but how likely do you think you are to find another chest?
They talk about fury throughout the first half of the entire pod that isn't listed in the chapters during class tuning discussions
that is the question. if it were you what would u pick
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Might as well listen to the whole pod, they talk about fury throughout
jsut ypu personal; preferrence
those are words... mostly
yeah they mention the fix / ansurek history / revvez basically
the chest also off first boss
i mean if u were in ym place with a0.1% diifference choosing arcanocore 723 or chest 723
would say chest far more common to come out of m+ vault
Rashanan was a bigger factor than Ansurek, and they also leave out Broodtwister, which Fury might not have been top on but was def high
cba
max pmo's me off
what do u mean
was there some discord update
and Fury wasn't anywhere near OP for Queen's Court, even Arms was just kinda ok
this shit looks really jank for some reason now
much less Kyveza
both mythic chest and mythic arcano can drop off first boss
just have to catalyze the chest
i think you can leave out brood, because even at the end we were number 1 on it x)
(dratnos says op for 3 of the last 4 bosses)
but if you do +10's and fill your vault there'd be a pretty high chance of getting multiple other diff chests
yeah thats why iw as asking awhat would u do if u were in ym place? which would u get
id say tho i mean chest is like much more locked in item that you will never swap whereas arcanocore is kind of bad in m+
yeah it was a topic launched on more general end bosses class performers
but then expecting Max or Dratnos to really have a complete understanding of what they yap about is the first mistake; they're both great within their respective lanes, but often try to opine outside of it
like his other points are solid, but some of the citations are a lil off
but if you reclear myth every week then probably in the running to get trinket anyway from boss or vault
like saladbar -> demensius
so rly just whatever sims higher for you or if you plan to m+ a lot just go chest
Take the chest for the stam call it a day
Professional yappers run out of things to yap about and must find new yap territory
tale as old as time
and now max is talking about looking at raid logs over the course of two weeks fury goes from mid to 1 day rankings going to high... that's not cause of Reap, the Reap change has virtually nothing to do with raid performance
it's because only half the M raid bosses even HAD raid rankings two weeks ago
and on the episode, on a random rant about raid buffs in m+ somewhere, they ask themselves if fury would have been meta all these years if battle shout was diff, that's all i remember fury related stuff
this is why I dislike those podcasts, they always end up creating a skewed impression, because they get guys who are authoritative, but not personally knowledgeable on the subjects they end up commenting on
so they end up saying things authoritatively so that they sound like truths, when really... it's not always quite so much
Unyielding Netherprism any good at all? Doesn't show up on the Wowhead list
A lot of people do this shit, it's annoying
Did Discord change for anyone else
just life in general
it's different
Dratnos is right about Honestly's Warrior doing great on Dimensius, but that's also the @thorn venture diff - man is a MACHINE
TBF he was also doing great as Arms though, Fury is just easier w/out jugg and more livable
somewhere i didn't see there is a section on it
god bless youtube auto chapters
Are there any tricks on Zo'phex for Warrior?
time to go on Poddy C and let em know
Eh I mean I don't shit on them; the greater points they're making are still solid
- it is great content/entertainment
but people who are used to speaking authoritatively (and I'm one of them lmao) have a tendency to always come across the same way, even when it maybe isn't quite so warranted
and I am speaking from experience here, because I've found myself in that situation as well, which is why I try to be more cognizant of it
btw are there updated talent builds post-hotfix?
you always see your manager as your manager
I challenge you to ctrl+f
are we still safe bois
thanks dad
for now
pc exploded /j
What lkevel delves do we need to do to get max level crests?
is it 11? does it have to be a bountiful?
With new raid buff are we using different enchants?
define different
it's possible but we'll need to see once sims and things are more finalized
ion think that shits auto at all
For now just continuing to use your best-simming enchants is probably reasonable
no way it perfectly knows when to segment videos def the editor doing that
some are auto some arent but this one prob arne
this one yugioh channel i watch is auto
Def not automatic, they add the timestamps in the description manually
they're not auto, no - good youtubers add them
Is slayer the move on soul hunters now ?
they're both competitive
On paper probably, in practice it's probably just personal preference
fake if not
yall think bazeface is on there
Not yet


someone got the copy paste for the thing to run secret technique stat sims?
no weapon its so over
oooh whats the pretty color chart addon?
one sec
sin stained pendant is kinda nice no?
tbf he was right I didn't do a ton in the burn, just stayed up cause how far ahead I got in p1/2. Investment paid off!
they nerfed gravity too so maybe my melee won't fuck me this week
yeah they nerfed that just because of you
god bless
i hate dimensius because I need to get the ball for excess mass and I play games to escape from real life where my doctor is always telling me I have excess mass
tyvm!

had a question about why ST uses cold steel hot blood and then realized it's just the only place you could put a talent point
yeah, just running out of useful talents
and you still do bladestorm quite frequently, which uses Bloodthirst via Unhinged, which crits via Bloodcraze
is there logic behind 2/2 deft experience and 1/2 critical thinking? is the mastery just better than the passive of crit thinking
