thankyou so muhc
#fury
stoic star
hot rampart
Interesting okay. I asked on Crit's stream why he wasn't pressing roar in aoe and he said he'd press it when he had nothing else to press (implying it was very low prio)
hollow leaf
you literally press bladestorm on a pack and spam rb
quiet breach
you literally press bladestorm on a pack and spam rb
do you RB even if rage capped?
hollow leaf
sure
quiet breach
like besides for brutal finish I mean
hollow leaf
the purpose of rampage is to keep you enraged
olive wraith
Slayer has more conditionals
hot rampart
Seems like the conditionals are:
if not enraged, rampage
If rb available, rb
Execute whenever wa says to
Keep WW stacks up in 2+
Use cds on cd
Not necessarily in the order listed
woven heath
do you RB even if rage capped?
quiet breach
Seems like the conditionals are:
if not enraged, rampage
If rb available, rb
E...
you only RB for reap procs if you have overwhelm on the pack
I know that
otherwise BT >
woven heath
BT is pretty much below everything but WW.
quiet breach
As slayer? I didn't think you ever bt
usually you have overwhelm on the pack
hollow leaf
if you have to bt on a pack to apply overwhelmed that's an issue of poor planning
quiet breach
because you want to always have bladestorm at the beginning of each pack
quiet breach
if you have to bt on a pack to apply overwhelmed that's an issue of poor plannin...
this
hollow leaf
bladestorm applies overwhelmed to all targets you hit
which is why for all of the conditionals you've got, the only thing that really matters for 99% of the gameplay is making sure you have bladestorm to open on a pack
rest is minor
hot rampart
So hold bs at end of pulls
quiet breach
yes
hollow leaf
you can send it if you'll have it back for the start of the next one
that's just a planning and experience thing
quiet breach
in high keys u often can bladestorm twice on a pack
hot rampart
Gotcha
quiet breach
now that i know for sure to keep RBing even if ragecapped for more reaps ima be a menace
hot rampart
And always refresh enrage first yeah?
quiet breach
And always refresh enrage first yeah?
yes
hot rampart
Excited to try it tomorrow
Gotta go over talents first
Any particular conditionals between keys?
hollow leaf
not really no
hot rampart
I always try to prio st in higher keys
hollow leaf
only real difference between builds is whether or not you want to drop deft/bloodcraze for odyn's and titanic rage for a small st loss and small aoe gain
I don't like odyn's
some do
it's preference
edgy widget
I generally agree; while Slayer is not hard pre se, it's certainly more complicated than Thane
jaunty ridge
I just use SD when its at 2 stacks or about to expire and doesn't refresh. Vibe rotation.
hot rampart
I generally agree; while Slayer is not hard pre se, it's certainly more complica...
That's fair, I played thane in like two keys and felt like I had mastered the spec lol
Thane was nice because it basically kept WW and enrage up by itself
Slayer feels like you have to track more.
latent steeple
restive peak
Slayer GOATED
edgy widget
Yeah, Slayer's rotation is simple, but it at least needs to think about bladestorm timing, refreshing WW, sudden death/marks, and occasionally run out of RB charges
hot rampart
Yeah, Slayer's rotation is simple, but it at least needs to think about bladesto...
So I get the weakaura and pressing execute when it goes kaching, but the wa also shows when mark is on target. Do I need to do anything there?
edgy widget
no, the WA accounts for mark
hot rampart
Okay
So kaching = press execute, no other thinking?
edgy widget
In M+, you can be a little more technical with Execute if you want - you should not under any circumstance outright ignore it, but you can decide when to over commit to Execute for faster BS CDR, vs delaying it (for 3 marks) when you don't need the CDR
but unless you're really going out of your way to try to game it, yes you can just follow the WA
hot rampart
Okay thanks
minor trout
My buddy is really into fury but is having some output issues in M+, can any gurus take a look at his log and see what might be going on?
https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1413606502584946688
lean heart
fuck thats good
hot rampart
When are you pressing stone idol? After reck/ava and before bs?
olive wraith
My buddy is really into fury but is having some output issues in M+, can any gur...
He just needs to practice the basic rotation more. His casts seem kinda like he’s just pressing things until he gets into a rythym
bright ledge
When are you pressing stone idol? After reck/ava and before bs?
i use it with Avatar
but idk if thats the best option
young swan
When are you pressing stone idol? After reck/ava and before bs?
mid charge
before cds
young swan
yepper
bright ledge
Whats the enrage % that should i have afdter a key? is 95 good?
im doing like 85%
young swan
im pretty sure 85 is normal
sullen tendon
whats the difference between skyfury and warcraft logs
young swan
thats basically 100% unless u chain pull the entire dungeon start to finish
bright ledge
Ok thank you i was brekaing my head over it
young swan
whats the difference between skyfury and warcraft logs
whta is this question man
sullen tendon
whta is this question man
some guy in my group has an addon saying this instance is being loged to skyfury.co or something
didnt know if its the sme as warcraft logs or differenent
brittle crow
sounds like hippie shit idk
bright ledge
LMAO
young swan
what the fuck
compact knot
some guy in my group has an addon saying this instance is being loged to skyfury...
its the m+ version of wcl
designed with m+ in mind
goes more indepth of what happened in the key
its pretty useful actually
its like league of legends op.gg but for a m+ key
young swan
some guy in my group has an addon saying this instance is being loged to skyfury...
this website is insnae
compact knot
i like it, i dont use it though
smoky vale
@mossy fox wow real critcake in my lfg signup
hallow sphinx
edgy widget
little wharf
worn rain
woven heath
bright ledge
static bison
With the new slayer build we prioritize rampage or raging blow on aoe while enraged?
bright ledge
i still haven't done a key since the changes
I really didnt use slayer at all b4 it i wish i can tell you if is huge different or not
gusty compass
Good morning guys! Just a question, i've never played with Cursed Idol. When do i use it for max usage
worn rain
With the new slayer build we prioritize rampage or raging blow on aoe while enra...
look at the lizard
storm sorrel
we find out if this is bug or not?
worn rain
do you think this green chad cares about rampage?
static bison
Xd yea it feels weird to overcap soo much rage , but the brrrr aoe goes hard
hallow sphinx
frank dawn
The 4pc should upgrade raging blow to reaping blow
keen kindle
The 4pc should upgrade raging blow to reaping blow
Does arms get reaping strike then 🤔
frank dawn
Send it. Fuck it.
bright ledge
wrong chat
hushed gust
XDD
bright ledge
mb mb
fading sky
Truly a season of fury love
fiery kraken
So it is rb over execute in aoe too? For reap procs?
hushed gust
execute will still follow the conditional wa for the most part, i think
wind drift
I still execute at 2 stacks of mark or sudden death
fading sky
Fr i dno i just send at sound🤣
hushed gust
i still have to change that sound. never been a fan of the caching.
fading sky
But u want overwhelm up for rb tocdo aoe
So like id say sd is rather important
As bladestorm doesnt give 10
hushed gust
sometimes doesn't give 10. unhinged might be a bro here and there.
fading sky
Off targets matter
hushed gust
unhinged BT can trigger Reap, which applies to everything hit.
just less chance because no iww
hallow sphinx
<@95005038488854528> <@137363315817971712> my warrior will be geared soon
the damage is done
smoky vale
hi pookie
hallow sphinx
youve committed sin
frank robin
how long until we see the nerf hammer
drowsy heron
Love to see it
daring coral
Heard we got some buffs, been playing the thunderstomp build from wowhead, is it time to switch over to slayer?
daring coral
Hell yeah lol love the spin to win playstyle
balmy lion
uneven plaza
Any EU-Wrist Crafters? Every Crafter is still in 
atm
sullen cloak
After opening with BS does overwhelmed run out ?
Meaning do we need to reapply it ?
hallow sphinx
sullen cloak
I see 🤣
If i don't have BS up for a new pack, how would I use BT effectively
Would i use it with whirlwind once or hit each mob once with it ?
Or just ignore
olive wraith
Don’t make the mistake of having bs on cooldown for next pack
fading sky
🤣
olive wraith
Cleaving bt would be the best way to get overwhelmed stacks
fading sky
100% so u do what u can
winter urchin
hey yall outta pocket, is it ever ok to rage cap to get a possible proc of reap the storm?
fading sky
Who cates
If u arent loosin enrage
Thats more important 😅, rage cappin in gen no tgx
But once in a while
Also impossible q rly enrsge left? Pack health left? Number of mobs
Number of ww charges left
olive wraith
Position of the sun in the sky?
rocky sequoia
does bleed still do alot of our slayer damage?
olive wraith
No
halcyon grove
Please don't bite my head off for asking this since it's probably a very silly question, but how impactfull is the ilvl of your offhand in fury? =p
rocky sequoia
im gonna try dropping bloodborn for unbridled ferocity in that case
edgy widget
Good morning guys! Just a question, i've never played with Cursed Idol. When do ...
you want the channel to finish in melee, in order to maximize the stat bonus
- best way to do this is to activate the trinket immediately after pressing charge so that you use it on the move
- if you're already in melee, just activate it a second or two before using cooldowns
olive wraith
im gonna try dropping bloodborn for unbridled ferocity in that case
We didn’t take bloodborne before the change
Sir what build did you cook
rocky sequoia
oh ive just been copy pasting from icyveins D:
olive wraith
Did you?
rocky sequoia
hmm looking at icyveins doesnt have bloodborn either wtf. i know i got it from somewhere i almost always copy paste cuz skill issue
edgy widget
probably some old stuff you had copied from a previous season
check #1273899855852339200 for up to date builds
mild ravine
Man, I've been through every guide, and maybe I can't read logs, I just can't st properly in raid.
brittle crow
Man, I've been through every guide, and maybe I can't read logs, I just can't st...
press rb until 115 rage then press ramp
if cash register sound, press execute
that's st
mild ravine
And somehow,nive been getting that wrong, went to practice on normal, and got beaten by another warrior with 8 ilvl bellow me
brittle crow
are u pressing buttons when not enraged or smth
lilac temple
So do we take BT off our bar?
brittle crow
are u accidentally dual wielding guns
olive wraith
So do we take BT off our bar?
No
mild ravine
are u pressing buttons when not enraged or smth
Don't think I'm ever not enraged
mild ravine
are u accidentally dual wielding guns
That would be cool
olive wraith
Don't think I'm ever not enraged
Post a log in #1347646810457636974
It’s easier to analyze what mistakes you might be making
mild ravine
I did it
naive latch
I just got kicked out of a 14 and replaced with arms 
mild ravine
Which key?
olive wraith
I just got kicked out of a 14 and replaced with arms <:Whuh:1072540013033697292>
Show them the updated tier list
naive latch
Which key?
14 gambit 
mild ravine
That was stupid of them
quasi fractal
is the ?? kyveza fight just harder than a +13 or is my brain just cooked
earnest olive
our bladestorm is key to slayer hey? puts overwhelmed on everything is that right?
stoic echo
is the ?? kyveza fight just harder than a +13 or is my brain just cooked
I mean it's just finding the rhythm
I did it day 2 , waiting for the spell reflect thingy to get fixed
Was like ilvl 685
Was fun af
If you're struggling with mechanics just use the one button rota, there's no DPS check
olive wraith
Wait for turbo boost. Ilvl will make it a bit easier
quasi fractal
the only thing i dont like about the fight is that she can spawn the shadow dash things on top of each other
stoic echo
I'm praying that the next updates secretly removes the tier set change again
worn rain
the only thing i dont like about the fight is that she can spawn the shadow dash...
it actually make it easier most of the time
quasi fractal
idk i pay attention to the order they spawn and i just dont notice when she spawns them over the top of each other ever
naive latch
worn rain
<:sadge:820202363359854633>
cult of jump cable deniers
naive latch
god forbid a man try to push his io
worn rain
idk i pay attention to the order they spawn and i just dont notice when she spaw...
I also struggled with copies a bit, but then I started maping in mind only first 3 and reacting to other 3 only using visuals
naive latch
cult of jump cable deniers
"need brez" brother, just don't die 
olive wraith
Or toned down
Again why
stoic echo
Because there's no reason to play anything but slayer fury in M+, I find that discouraging
Before there was a nice balance between col arms and Thane fury, slayer fury if you really wanted huge boss damage
Now it's just slayer fury everywhere
I like warrior being at the top, but now it's just brain-dead "yeah let's go slayer fury"
The aoe is almost as good as an aoe oriented spec from the same class with a billion times better ST
olive wraith
While I agree it was nice having a choice. We are usually stuck with one build or hero tree for keys
Thane is also still good rn
stoic echo
Yeah I'm aware, that's why I enjoyed having this dynamic this season between the three spec choices
stoic echo
Thane is also still good rn
No reason to play it when the aoe is similar with way worse ST tho
The ST difference is massive
olive wraith
Doesn’t make it bad
stoic echo
In comparison I'd say yes. Overall of course no, there's way worse specs to play
foggy nest
Now it's just slayer fury everywhere
Don’t forget that hero talents stay for midnight
stoic echo
Hey don't get me wrong, the hero talents on warriors I can fuck with
It's not as bad as other classes
I love slayer fury for raids or boss fights in dungeons, I love col arms in M+, Thane fury can be fun
olive wraith
Thane was timing 18s before
stoic echo
Slayer arms just feels bleh
stoic echo
You're missing my point tho
foggy nest
You’re not forced to play slayer
You are
olive wraith
I got news
stoic echo
When pug timers are incredibly tight with 2 deaths already, you need all the damage you can get
olive wraith
You can change your talents
worn rain
When pug timers are incredibly tight with 2 deaths already, you need all the dam...
is it pug or war problem tho?
fading sky
Thane is better burst
olive wraith
Thane can still time high keys lol
fading sky
But not by miles
olive wraith
It feels better cause it’s consistent between pulls
Thane high rolls and low rolls
worn rain
updated undying classic for modern realities
edgy widget
Because there's no reason to play anything but slayer fury in M+, I find that di...
TBF, Thane and Colossus are still performing a lot better than you suggest, however it is also something of an inevitable result of having multiple options - one is very likely always going to be better
- before this change, it was Colossus - you might argue that Slayer could provide more single target, but Colossus was still demonstrably better overall
At the same time, while you may feel like you had "more choice" before, compare Arms & Fury this week and they're actually closer together now than they were last week
so ask yourself, do you really have less options now, or did the options simply flip positions?
worn rain
crisp hawk
stoic echo
TBF, Thane and Colossus are still performing a lot better than you suggest, howe...
The main reason why I'm saying this is , on many keys, yeah the aoe on arms is higher, but most of the time there's a lot of mobs that don't do anything that you just pad on. So while the overall is higher, the prio damage is significantly lower and on bosses you just get hard outblasted.
Also I feel like there's a ton of huge aoe specs rn with windwalker, hunter, frost DK
olive wraith
The main reason why I'm saying this is , on many keys, yeah the aoe on arms is h...
This is a comp issue. You need classes with big aoe. You need classes with good st/funnel/prio
edgy widget
it's also worth acknowledging that a lot of these seemingly skewed stats are the result of averaging
- F.Slayer is certainly more consistent, which lends to a higher average, but if you look at the top performance stats, they're actually very similar
^ one of those is arms and the other is fury, can you tell me offhand which is which?
undone flower
Second-last is fury
edgy widget
overall top end of the first 9.48, top end of the second 9.58
overall average of the first 7.042, average of the second 6.67
undone flower
Did I win big prize ?
gleaming siren
Data aggregation sites when the majority of the population is incapable of the most basic statistic analysis
edgy widget
I just think its worth acknowledging that perception is very easily skewed - there's no arguing that F.Slayer is way up right now, but to think that means that other options no longer exist, much less are not capable of doing the vast majority of keys is disengenuous
undone flower
The other really good option is shield and sword warrior
edgy widget
you can also make an easy argument that even if things were closer before (they really weren't), both were much further down, which results in its own bias - if Arms is seen as B tier and Fury is seen as D tier, then there really isn't any good DPS Warrior option
While it may be worse for personal preference, having at least one of those things in a higher tier gives players more opportunity overall to engage in the game, because we all know how much perception drives participation
I absolutely agree that it would be more ideal if Blizzard could keep everything very tightly balanced to give players the feeling of having more options, but that is quite simply not reality - no matter how much anyone may want it, it's never been a thing, and never will be that way
WoW is not a game that lends itself to being that tightly balanced, so I would recommend just enjoying what you have while you have it, and recognizing that everything is temporary and there will be a brand new hierarchy of balance within a few months (if not less)
vagrant roost
I have a question, my guild is in need of the Battle Shout buff for Raid, and I am looking between both Arms and Fury, which of the two is recommended?
edgy widget
and in the meantime, enjoy
olive wraith
I have a question, my guild is in need of the Battle Shout buff for Raid, and I ...
Fury is better on more bosses
sonic finch
I feel like with the recent change to rb reap procs it's becoming very hard not to play slayer for the prio damage especially if your playing in heavy aoe comps. And before this week's change I was a pretty die hard thane enjoyer.
edgy widget
tbf you could have made the same argument last week, if you were playing in very heavy aoe comps
but just because one thing may be better doesn't mean you can't still play what you enjoy - one of the most important lessons you can learn in life is to stop worrying about what other people think 
vagrant roost
Fury is better on more bosses
How high APM is fury? I've played a fair bit of Prot Paladin and that's reaching the upper ceiling of what I'm comfortable.
olive wraith
Ye slayer is really good for prio damage and solid aoe
olive wraith
How high APM is fury? I've played a fair bit of Prot Paladin and that's reaching...
Isn’t ppal highest apm in game?
Fury isn’t as high
worn rain
also fury can manage apm choosing between enrage talents
edgy widget
technically tanks are higher because they have more oGCD actions
olive wraith
Ya true. It is probably easier to not worry about off gcd stuff though
vagrant roost
I see I see
edgy widget
I think the highest non-tank profile atm is DH?
olive wraith
Oh? My guess was still rogue
edgy widget
outlaw is still high up there too
sonic finch
tbf you could have made the same argument last week, if you were playing in very...
I'm just going off feel, I pug a lot and most people don't play for single target in pugs so it felt much more valuable to bring St this week. My friends all play aoe heavy too.
edgy widget
I'm just going off feel, I pug a lot and most people don't play for single targe...
I don't disagree - I'm just pointing out that several people said the same thing last week and used that as their reason to play Slayer, despite it being lower overall than Thane
reality is that if you really want to play something, you'll find a way to justify it 😛
sonic finch
Agreed but I swear last week my overalls on thane were far higher in higher pull keys. Maybe it's just my own personal experience
worn rain
reality is that if you really want to play something, you'll find a way to justi...
Nothing makes me sadder than my head (C)
sonic finch
This week's both specs feel much closer
edgy widget
Agreed but I swear last week my overalls on thane were far higher in higher pull...
compared to Thane this week, or comparing to Slayer this week?
Cause nothing changed for Thane week to week
olive wraith
I mean I did a flood last week as thane. And i had a higher overall than this week as slayer
Could be I’m more used to thane at this point. Could be the kinds of pulls we did
edgy widget
Thane does still do more overall AoE damage than Slayer
especially if you're making a lot of really big pulls
sonic finch
What I'm saying is I feel like I can match thane on overall in high pull keys as slayer this week whereas in previous weeks that didnt feel like the case.
edgy widget
The reason Slury has picked up so much is because its closer to Thane in AoE while also doing more ST
sonic finch
Just my experience is all
hallow sphinx
edgy widget
Sure, though tbf you also probably have more gear this week than you had last week too, since that's generally how it works
sonic finch
True.. that will be a factor.
I basically just pick either spec based on damage profile in the groups I'm in now. It's nice to have real choice for once.
edgy widget
you may also have become more comfortable with the dungeons, and other factors may have changed - if you're still doing the same general key levels (say you're a weekly +10 vault gamer), the fact that everyone's power is going up week to week means the dungeon is going faster, the pulls are dying quicker, and sustained AoE specs like Thane will be getting a little worse as a result
that's supposed to be counter balanced by the general idea that you will move on to higher M+ levels as you get more powerful/better, though reality is that the vast majority of players don't push keys - they just go for max rewards
sonic finch
Nah these are like 13s 14s. Nothing super high but high enough to give thane a good run through on consistency.
naive latch
skill issue
edgy widget
I'm just saying if you're doing the same general key levels this week as last week, whatever that number happens to be
tldr there are just a lot of factors that got into this stuff, which is exactly why M+ performance is so hard to directly compare
sonic finch
Yeah it's a good point. Higher gear level overall would lend itself to faster overalls
But I don't feel like the runs got that faster this week. Maybe a little
worn rain
skill issue <:sadge:820202363359854633>
I smell deficit of RB
edgy widget
I promise you though, if you're not actually pushing keys, nobody really cares what you play or how you perform as long as you don't straight int, die, afk, or pull random shit and wipe the key
naive latch
I smell deficit of RB
More like significant downtimes because my rat ass was getting 90% of the mechanics
undone flower
I mean I did a flood last week as thane. And i had a higher overall than this we...
I can see why if you pulled packs with bosses + duo boss in flood / thane feels better on duo
edgy widget
I'll go further and say that nobody is actually looking at your hero spec either (outside of obviously very selective top end push groups) - they may see you're Fury as opposed to Arms but ain't nobody looking to see if you're Slayer or Thane; they'll find out after the key starts lmao
olive wraith
I can see why if you pulled packs with bosses + duo boss in flood / thane feels ...
Only thing we pulled trash on was big momma
sonic finch
I agree but I care and I'd like to contribute a little more than just zug zug sometimes so I do consider these things even in pugs sometimes. Especially if your complementing the group better somehow.
Even in pugs
olive wraith
I agree but I care and I'd like to contribute a little more than just zug zug so...
You DO contribute as thane. It’s like a jack of all trades
undone flower
You contribute whatever you play, you are in the key
edgy widget
the part people struggle with is they have this feeling that they want to be the most optimal they can be, but they also want to play what they want, and those two things are fundamentally incompatible - you can't depend on your personal preference also happening to be best, so you have to draw a line somewhere and decide how much optimization is worth setting aside your sense of personal preference (as well as how much the difference actually matters on a personal level)
once you come to terms with that decision, I guarantee you'll start having a lot more fun with the game... which should be remembered, is in fact just a video game - the fact that you did 5% less dam than you could of really isn't that important
sonic finch
Are you attempting to tell me I'm not enjoying the video game by considering how best to optimize my performance? Because that's part of my enjoyment of the game. I'm sorry I don't quite follow your point here.
edgy widget
I'm gonna pull up this bar chart again and point out that while the difference between Arms and Fury here looks massive, the actual numbers difference is 5.9 - 6.1, which is a mere 3.4%
edgy widget
Are you attempting to tell me I'm not enjoying the video game by considering how...
my point is that you (everyone) have to make a personal decision that only you (each individual) can make - how much optimization is worth your sense of personal preference?
naive latch
olive wraith
I swapped to arms last season and although I liked looking at the overalls
It wasn’t super fun
oblique thistle
olive wraith
For me
edgy widget
e.g. if you like Thane more than Slayer, how much damage difference is that worth?
- will you play Slayer if it's 5% stronger than Thane?
- will you only play Slayer if it's 10% stronger than Thane?
there's a number there somewhere, and it's unique to everyone
olive wraith
This season feels way better cause I just enjoy fury more
undone flower
I swapped to arms last season and although I liked looking at the overalls
I was prot, you are not alone
olive wraith
(It happened to also be kinda better this season)
naive latch
I swapped to arms last season and although I liked looking at the overalls
I like fury more because I get to hold two big swords 
oblique thistle
I played prot last season
Prot itself is actually very enjoyable
I fucking hate tanking though
Very happy to be back on fury
edgy widget
ironically I think I've tanked almost as many keys as I've done DPS this week, despite the great Reap changes
I don't actually care for tanking, guild just has a shortage atm
olive wraith
I like fury more because I get to hold two big swords <a:blizard:140558052127840...
Same brother. Something about dual 2h just itches my brain just right
dense elbow
Same, tanking is the easiest way to get things done too
undone flower
Surprising I didn’t tank a lot this season, I’ll say 90% of my keys are dps
sonic finch
my point is that **you** (everyone) have to make a personal decision that only *...
Oh, fair point. My point from earlier was that setting preference aside to perform slightly better or try something different can actually be rewarding sometimes especially in keys, even if it doesnt work. I'll feel better knowing I contributed a little more.
naive latch
I can play all three specs with arms and fury on an equal level but two big swords
oblique thistle
ironically I think I've tanked almost as many keys as I've done DPS this week, d...
Yeah being short on tanks is exactly why I played one last season
Then I ended up joining a guild, accidentally.got invited to a raid and they were like "hey can you dps"
I ran away from fury then came crawling right back lol
undone flower
I hate tanking priory and hoa
dense elbow
I hate ara
undone flower
Ara is really fine, don’t do pulls you see when you dps, and you will time your 15
edgy widget
Oh, fair point. My point from earlier was that setting preference aside to perfo...
I get that, I really do - I've been a CE/equivalent raider for over two decades now, in guilds ranging from top 20 to top 500, so I know all about the feeling of doing what's "best for success" vs what's best for my sense of personal enjoyment
I'm saying that on a philosophical level though, there's a point where you're like "ok this is better, but I absolutely hate it" or "this is better, but not by so much that I'm willing to swap over it" right? Once you figure out where that level is for you, things get a whole lot simpler
oblique thistle
Priory is a miserable place to tank for sure
Pull literally the whole fucking world before the first boss and you're still somehow short on count
naive latch
I hate tanking because I do stupid shit like pulling 2 packs too many kekw
dense elbow
Better that, than two too little
naive latch
Better that, than two too little
I literally go "good luck, y'all. I'm pulling gigapacks"
oblique thistle
"yeah I'll be fine! The dps on the other hand ..."
naive latch
about ~6 wicked bolts went off and just saw all dps drop dead
still timed the key though kek
oblique thistle
You're prot just press AOE kick
undone flower
In my priory 14, the tank pulled the entire room after the first boss, I knew it was depleted when I saw it
edgy widget
honestly tanking as prot feels so free, as long as your group covers kicks/stops/etc ofc
olive wraith
In my priory 14, the tank pulled the entire room after the first boss, I knew it...
The stairs mobs too?
edgy widget
can just kinda roll my face across the keyboard and live through just about anything
naive latch
In my priory 14, the tank pulled the entire room after the first boss, I knew it...
Was going to ask if we were in the same key because this happened to me before
rocky sequoia
whats that talent that does more damage to shields
undone flower
The stairs mobs too?
No just the entire room, it is trolling if you do it in a 14 with randoms
oblique thistle
whats that talent that does more damage to shields
Wrecking throw
edgy widget
whats that talent that does more damage to shields
Wrecking Throw, bottom left corner of the class tree
olive wraith
No just the entire room, it is trolling if you do it in a 14 with randoms
Oh that’s not that bad
naive latch
tank pulled the entire first room, saw the healer go down and i just melded instantly
olive wraith
I see that pull often
rocky sequoia
oh tyvm, is it worth takign against plex?
olive wraith
Oh wait
frail wagon
good morning all
oblique thistle
Yes
edgy widget
oh tyvm, is it worth takign against plex?
Yeah, its solid against the shield, you'll usually only get one during each phase though, so don't send it immediately if CDs will be up soon
frail wagon
does spell reflect affect the first boss of streets?
undone flower
Oh that’s not that bad
If you fail to judge your group/timer before this room, and still make the entire pull, you are not a good tank
frail wagon
or die by the sword?
karmic fiber
What target count does raging blow take over rage dumping for rampage with the 4p changes
olive wraith
does spell reflect affect the first boss of streets?
No
frail wagon
thanks
olive wraith
or die by the sword?
Bs and human racial
oblique thistle
You can immune the prison with bs tho right
dense elbow
You can just hold BS for interrogation 
edgy widget
Yeah, you need to be bladestorming when the cast finishes
lilac kettle
does spell reflect affect the first boss of streets?
You can precast it for the disarms and show him the middle finger
olive wraith
You can precast it for the disarms and show him the middle finger
I’d rather save it for interrogation
lilac kettle
You bladestorm that
naive latch
I tried out meld & bs for first boss and our feral ended up getting all interrogations after
dense elbow
Why tho, I immune it
undone flower
You can immune the prison with bs tho right
in hardmode I hold the second bladestorm for it
edgy widget
I’d rather save it for interrogation
Spell Reflect, not Bladestorm
olive wraith
Oh my b
edgy widget
you can Spell Reflect Impound Contraband, the thing that makes you drop your weapon, so that you don't drop your weapon
oblique thistle
Oh shit
olive wraith
TIL
oblique thistle
I gotta start doing that
olive wraith
Ty Archi
edgy widget
but you have to yolo precast it, because I don't believe there's any way to tell if he's targeting you specifically(?)
naive latch
pray to rnjesus that it targets you i guess
oblique thistle
Yeah I don't think there's any indicator
edgy widget
Ty Archi
thank @lilac kettle, and @tough seal for making the Spell Reflect spreadsheet!
naive latch
and because my rat ass isn't getting accepted into any more 14s, i will level my 2nd warrior
edgy widget
pray to rnjesus that it targets you i guess
I mean even if it doesn't, it's not really a waste - nothing else that's really important to spell reflect on the fight
lilac kettle
I am only "consuming" the spreadsheet 😁 ty to the creator as well
edgy widget
more for bringing it up just now 😛
but yeah, Sense's spreadsheet is 🐐
it's also linked in the #dps-faq
dense elbow
and because my rat ass isn't getting accepted into any more 14s, i will level my...
Gotta gear it up a bit, probs. I get in as DPS basically instantly at 711 
How far behind the curve am I? Prob like 3-4 item levels, not too far
naive latch
Gotta gear it up a bit, probs. I get in as DPS basically instantly at 711 <:okay...
I'm at 711 too
olive wraith
Ugh yall and your mythic pieces
dense elbow
Weird that you don't get invited. Should have named yourself Funkykittie I guess
naive latch
What even is a baekwon
100 korean won or 0.072 usd kek
dense elbow
naive latch
i do good damage for cheap copege
remote bobcat
earnest canyon
i do good damage for cheap copege
Have you just had a McDonalds though?
south lintel
@edgy widget ty for all the work big dog
edgy widget
anytime
naive latch
Have you just had a McDonalds though?
How do you know what I ate 
earnest canyon
How do you know what I ate <:wokege:878564603137761342>
I don't I was asking
south lintel
So I finally understand how to go brr I was messing uo my bladestorms in fucking pumping now gg
remote bobcat
So I finally understand how to go brr I was messing uo my bladestorms in fucking...
having bladestorm ready at the beginning of each pack is mandatory now kinda
for overwhelmed
yuhyuh
south lintel
Ya
Because of the overwhelming it applies
There was times I was to excited and sending it early
remote bobcat
yea dont do that
south lintel
It does
mossy fox
so just gotta find the right balance
south lintel
I was also sometimrs sending it right before a pack would di and on the next opener felt terrible
last fractal
Should I be concerned about stacking up slaughtering blows before i send bs in packs?
I'm still a bit confused on the changes w reap
south lintel
so just gotta find the right balance
Your yt and twitch vods helped me so much
So basically
When you do your opener just chill on bs and once pack is gathered send it
bright ledge
Your yt and twitch vods helped me so much
same
south lintel
It applied overwhelmed stacks
Overwhelm has a chance to proc reap storm at 150% effectiveness
dense elbow
I'm still a bit confused on the changes w reap
Nope, it all happens naturally as you play. Feel free to stack up on a dummy before key start tho, to start off fully ramped
If you got none, send it either way to get the AoE going
last fractal
I gotchu, thanks you guys ❤️
south lintel
Raging blow with whirlwind will hit multiple mobs each mob hit with raging blow has a chance to proc reap the storm
Thats why bs is so important
I can do like 15 mil on the dummies
mossy fox
No wonder they got buffed
without closing discord too, dont forget
last fractal
I see, I just wasn't sure if it was a big priority to stack up on openers
iron portal
Big news
south lintel
I mean you shkukd always try to storm with recklessness
And avatar everywhere reckless I think
They didn't buff us they fixed us
🙂
dense elbow
The (4) fix, feels more like a bug fix than anything. Glad our PTR feedback was finally read
dense elbow
Yep, mostly. Even if the ability is worth basically nothing
I thought 4-5% was bad, oh, I didn't know how good I had it
(I am sure next expansion will sort that out, with an OF apex talent, buffing OF raw dam by 300%)
Yes I know it likely will just be another RB talent, let me dream
earnest canyon
slay sister, slay
royal ermine
So lads, when do we close discord for the fury buffs? 😄
raven oxide
its OF that bad compared with standar build?
dense elbow
You know the Devs would ironically celebrate the day we go down?
raven oxide
or
dense elbow
It is a wash, not bad and not good, just an option with minor drawbacks and merits. Some ST for some AoE burst potential
raven oxide
do u have the talents with OF?
dense elbow
OF is neat to nuke spawned in adds, as an example. OF on a ST boss is dead, as another
I play OF, but I do so even when it is an actual major DPS loss
I ain't the guy to ask that of
south lintel
Have you seen some of the warriors play on this discord
Im more worried about getting nerfs
Some insane players
dense elbow
Im more worried about getting nerfs
We probably should see a (4) dam down, tho
It ain't right to have a huge lead on prio AND lead on AoE to this degree
Hopefully they just help up the others to get to our level. But we should not work this much ahead on two factors
hardy bluff
so what’s the meta talent build right now?
the regular slayer dungeon build
#dps-faq has it
dense elbow
so what’s the meta talent build right now?
#dps-faq Slayer build with some personal preference twists
gaunt loom
hmmm
pulsar loom
What happend to fury its now much more higher on mythicstast then arms ? 😅
earnest shuttle
south lintel
Dude you can channel idol while charging and activating avatar
And it hits maybe macro to avatar
silk wharf
That seems like a good way to whiff your entire trinket for, at most, gaining a gcd.
silk wharf
Until it doesn't, because the charge was too far or you took a weird route to actually charge
rustic grotto
mt thane offically dead spec
silk wharf
I would like it a lot better if there wasn't that awkward delay when the set procs.
naive latch
it just ain't the same fun
devout falcon
Has there been any confirmation from blizzard that the changes to fury were intentional or not? Just expected to see some mention in the recent patch notes .
fiery tide
it was just a hotfix to the tier set, so most likely intended
devout falcon
Yeah, just would have thought they'd announce it like they did with druid last week If it was intentional as I can't find any blue post or notes for it
undone flower
It was intentional, I doubt we would have a bug or bug fix in our set when nothing happened beside that on our class
Bugfixes and bugs don’t appear out of thin air (at least I don’t think so)
rustic zodiac
will they nerf fury? i see no reason too since its on pair with 2 rogue specs and havoc but has no kite and frost dk is still better
if they do it should be to bring reap down to 125% from 150% but no more, and leave the game play were are finally able to do dps in m+ all xpac
proven stream
no reason to nerf
rustic zodiac
good i hope not
proven stream
its not like there's groups begging for fury wars to apply
rustic zodiac
unless they nuke prot war
restive saffron
hi guys
dense elbow
Hi DoBronx, what can we do for ya?
restive saffron
saw a youtube video which explained slayer got buffed
but is it still below thane in M+?
dense elbow
Value, probably not. Overall, Thane can still do better and do. Slayer just got the high prio dam as well, that in M+ context means more efficient damage. So you can argue Thane Vs Slayer based on what comps your team is concidering.
Remember, more prio dam = AoE dam is more efficent, as the prio dam is dead before the pack.
dusk ledge
So i feel like i struggle staying enraged from time to time, how much of a loss u think it'd be swapping Frenzied Enrage with Powerful Enrage?
dense elbow
Doesnt change much on that front, if you struggle to enrage, you are not sending rampage correctly. Likely you are not pooling rage when able, to help avoid just this issue.
edgy widget
but is it still below thane in M+?
saw a video based on our updates, which led you back to our updates - it all comes full circle
dusk ledge
if i drop enrage, and whilst being unenraged send WW it's not too bad i guess doing ww outside enrage?
dense elbow
you lose some dam, but doesnt matter much in the big picture
As long that aint all your WWs, a WW unenraged each new moon doesnt do nuffin'
dusk ledge
fiery tide
its like what, 200k dmg loss or something if you cast ww without enrage
dense elbow
My mastery is 50%, so about 250k, so what you said checks out
That is 250k per target, reduced above 5: so avoid losing that free dam when able, ye
iron portal
urban wraith
Is fury very forgiving if you f the rotation up? I’m a casual for sure just got ksm as prot and got a hero track fury set built up
dense elbow
Yeah, it is quite forgiving
fiery tide
just dont drop enrage for longer periods
dense elbow
As long as you press rampage when it shines, before other buttons, you will get there with no issues
zinc ferry
Hello, i just changed to slayer from thane. And I never really played slayer before. What should i prio, and what abilities should i use when i don't have other? (My overall is way better but i feel like that i do everything wrong.)
urban wraith
Ok thanks guys . Probably just smash some buttons on low keys lol
dense elbow
Prio is the same core, then RB is above BT, and execute got a WA that tells you when to press it (2x mark, AJ falling off, so on)
restive saffron
saw a video based on our updates, which led you back to our updates - it all com...
well that guide didnt have OF in it so i doubt it
zinc ferry
I got this WA and i just press execute whenever i hear the sound hope it's good
fiery tide
yes
dense elbow
Looks about right
zinc ferry
Prio is the same core, then RB is above BT, and execute got a WA that tells you ...
So Rampege > RB > BT + Execute when i hear the sound
dense elbow
Ramp to Enrage* > Execute Sound > RB > Ramp > Exe > BT
zinc ferry
oh okay, thanks, i think i need a few more keys to get used to it
zinc ferry
Hope so, but i'm not sure if i see low overall because i do smth wrong or my gear is the problem
edgy widget
well that guide didnt have OF in it so i doubt it
trust me, it was all based on our updates whether they knew it or not
dense elbow
Hope so, but i'm not sure if i see low overall because i do smth wrong or my gea...
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tranquil nimbus
midnight will get us a peak rework guys trust
dense elbow
Will never say no to even better gameplay; even if what we already got is really good
zinc ferry
The problem with my gear is that i got 13K versality while i have 17K mastery and i think it a lot but i'm on this problem i'm just not that lucky whit drops currently
restive saffron
trust me, it was all based on our updates whether they knew it or not
i take your words then, i also love the confidence
dense elbow
Do the content, gear will come
zinc ferry
Do the content, gear will come
Thanks for the help ❤️
dense elbow
ur welcome
frigid zealot
devout totem
💰😤👍
urban wraith
Soleahs and sacbrood a good combo for trinkets ? I also have a hero track tickling sack of terror
frigid zealot
sacbrood/Pacemaker/Idol are your main go too if you don't do raid for raid trinkets
fading sky
But soleah + sac will do
merry jetty
In m+, do you still execute at 2 jugg or only on 3 marks over RB?
frigid zealot
2
You want to execute enough to make sure you have bladestorm up ready for next trash to get overwhelm stacks running again for reap to be as strong as possible right away
merry jetty
not better then a reap tho?
fading sky
But u get overwhelm ob targets dont u?
frigid zealot
Bladestorm is still super powerful when compared to reap, CDR is very important
frigid zealot
ive been messing with sims this morning tuning some dungeon slice stuff, and really for the most part as long as you get bladestorm off cd as close as you can to starting new trash/ready for new trash and holding avatar slightly for next pulls you can press rampage/rb/SD2/Mfe2 and its not wrong, all have around the same net output for overall
fading sky
Y startin a new pac no bladestorm. Is sucky
frigid zealot
getting the high majority of your overwhelm stacks to start forcing reap procs to apply the rest is pretty strong
fading sky
Yup
sand crest
ez
magic sorrel
Ramp to Enrage* > Execute Sound > RB > Ramp > Exe > BT
While maintaining WW, correct? I think I'm still hitting ramp too much. Reap seems to always be my 2nd overall behind RB. Im using BS on cooldown..too few bloodthirsts maybe?
fiery tide
there is no pressing bt to little
fiery tide
after bladestorm you should already have 10 stacks on 5 targets which gives you 100% proc chance
you only really press bt if you dont have bladestorm for a new pack
magic sorrel
That's what i mean..
fiery tide
if thats the case you probably messed something up, idk Ive 99% of the time always had bladestorm up when pulling a new pack
red grail
Reading the Fury warrior text on the wowhead m+ made me question whether Fury Slayer is better regardless of 4set. Any quick answers?
tight roost
It kind of is
Thane was preferred after 4 set but now slayer is at least competitive at that as well
red grail
That still kind of sounds samey samey, as in equal options.
It's crazy how a tier list text for Fury can go from dog shit to Yeah there is 1 buff, making it viable for the tier list.
I know tier list are going to be useless but still that part does not make sense to me. Guess I will have to try Slayer soon then to see what the fuzz is about
red grail
It kind of is
Thanks mate!
rocky sequoia
does unbridled ferocity cast avatar also if you have beserkers torment
woeful anchor
Do you use rampage after the enrage run out or just before it runs out?
fading sky
That still kind of sounds samey samey, as in equal options.
It's crazy how a ti...
M8 its a huge aoe buff for fury
Pede same
Rampage enrages u
But ideally u are always enrsged
woeful anchor
cool cool ty
red grail
M8 its a huge aoe buff for fury
So you would say to try Slayer now instead thane?
fading sky
Ofc
Just slayer nn to learn other spec
Slayer is fantastic playstyle and now also dmg
Like slayer is what fury should feel like
100%
dense elbow
willow ivy
how do you play that new slayer build? do you spam RB untill you get 4set proc and then BT?
raven hatch
hi, where can i find the right sim's setting for fury warrior?
grim prism
Ramp to Enrage* > Execute Sound > RB > Ramp > Exe > BT
rb over rampage on aoe if enraged?
raven hatch
and expecially, can someone explain me why in m+ now slayer is prefered instead mountain thane? what' changed?
ty ❤️
mighty wren
tldr;
setbonus procs from every target hit instead of just primary
raven hatch
ok ty guys
dense elbow
rb over rampage on aoe if enraged?
Yep.
And as I dont say it, cause it shouldnt be needed to be said - but ya need to keep up the meatcleaver stacks above even that
(on AoE, if that is needed to be said)
(as ppl keep poking me)
fading sky
mighty wren
slayer is nice, but the way it is now just feels so stupid =D
fading sky
Reap allows u 2
dense elbow
God I hate reap
fading sky
Stupid how?
mighty wren
spam raging blow and get setbonus as your top dmg or close to it
fading sky
U just gotta reap it
mighty wren
literally vanilla frostmage
dense elbow
Not exactly how it works
fading sky
Then rb fucks
dense elbow
Ye, but you get what he means, dont ya?
mighty wren
yeah i oversimplified it a bit, but thats just how it feels to me rn :D
fading sky
Yeah, i but with the lower enrsge time i do feel like u gotta play sharp
Or get punished
dense elbow
This sums up how I feel playing atm:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/284226322585354241/1413167107641708664/GIF_20250904_152124_523.gif?ex=68baf1ed&is=68b9a06d&hm=821b42c65bd4e5342ae983efae72344b0cd294dd1463dbd06513676bc54ce5ca&
mighty wren
This sums up how I feel playing atm:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/2842...
god that gif is perfect
dense elbow
It really is
fading sky
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/284226322585354241/1413178488713642104/GI...
This 1
dense elbow
reap is just glitter and cheap false gold confetti to hide that you just spam RB
fading sky
dense elbow
I think that gif sums it up more than the reap one
ye that one
This is what it really is
dense elbow
yayaya
dense elbow
I wont
fading sky
Simple af
I almost lost to a ret in a 12 ara kara
Forgot how mucg burst they have woth araz
fading sky
?
dense elbow
fading sky
I should win no
fading sky
I won by 300k overall dps
dense elbow
win by twice or thrice that, or delete
fading sky
But he sniped all small packs and tank chain pulled
nova cairn
fading sky
True😆
agile token
Why do people craft bracers without Haste/Mastery?
agile token
So Vers/Mastery probably safer
dense elbow
Not what I would say
slender trout
+14er ara kara nearly 9m 😄
dense elbow
can you guess what I would say?
agile token
Sim yourself?
earnest canyon
How it looks to everyone looking in:
nova cairn
and they're getting a buff next week 
dense elbow
BM pumping 10-12m overalls
they still complain
cause their DPS is based on tank pulls and playing around their setup
I get it, but also: dios mio, they gonna be stronger
fading sky
Yeye also mm is super strong early
agile token
Reason I asked is that I prefer to have best stats, instead of according to current gear. And opening 12 tabs for the optimal sim is meh, but ok.
fading sky
Reason I asked is that I prefer to have best stats, instead of according to curr...
Lol
That is sim???
Best stats according to current gear only sim can tell u
As stat values interact with each other
fading sky
Ah but m8, bis gear list only works with entire set
So changing 1 weap well skew stats
But also haste// mastery and u prob goos
dense elbow
Pretty sure we got a "bis" Wowhead clickbaity linky thingie guide - could just follow that religiously I guess
fading sky
Or if u have a lot of haste, versa mastery
nova cairn
what's considered a lot of haste?
agile token
Currently Vers/Mastery sims better indeed.
fading sky
Fuck if i know
agile token
That is with 22Khaste
nova cairn
i would assume its around 20k-22k haste where Vers starts to pull ahead. i had around 23k ish haste and going from haste/mast > vers/mast neck made me sim higher. as well as the stupid delve belt
fading sky
Just follow bot
hot rampart
theoretically should all my bladestorms be lining up with recklessness?
summer quail
hot rampart
so in a perfect world what are your "go's"?
ava/reck/bs > bs > bs/reck > bs > ava/reck/bs?
hot rampart
haha okay
subtle marten
Only in raid id think about when to BS. will adds spawn now?
sand crest
I mean in ST you can just send regardless, in m+ you should hold BS if you dont think you'll have it back by the next pack
thats about it
hot rampart
gotcha
sand crest
it can get more specific but broadly speaking, thats it
subtle marten
https://youtube.com/shorts/IpqnlWeXrf4?si=IFc3mdPz9hjQGYAI
I found this hilarious fury "guide" 
Randomly popped in my feed
Its completely wrong, is this avg fury leveller 😂
sand crest
this is the type of guide all my pugs follow regardless of spec
subtle marten
recklesnesnes is redbull, drink redbull
clever path
Given the new unannounced hotfix for us, that should technically mean our Single target dmg got buffed as well or am i completely mistaken on that end
hidden yarrow
pretty sure reap the storm has the same chance in ST as it did before the hotfix, so no?
sand crest
the hotfix changes nothing for pure st afaik
clever path
I see, so its literally just the change to it procing of other targets than your primary then?
hidden yarrow
the hotfix is to give multiple chances of reap thee storm to proc per target hit. if youre hitting one target the chance is the same it was pre-fix
clever path
Right, got ya. Just wanted to make sure
cobalt relic
subtle marten
Is it shots killing you?
smoky vale
you need to press a defensive on thunderclap and shout overlap
clever path
another question, ive seen some people mention that all your focus should be on Raging blow now. But surely you'd still go for 3x Raging blow 1x rampage before you whirlwind again just to keep up our enrage for those 4 hits.
So do we either:
a) Send raging blow regardless of enrage or not
b) always maintain enrage still
bitter palm
always maintain enrage
tacit sluice
another question, ive seen some people mention that all your focus should be on ...
Haven't pressed whirlwind in weeks
bitter palm
and always keep ww
thick fossil
Hmm, so the post RWF tuning isn't touching any of the outliers.
vale dove
is this looking right for overall?
dense elbow
is this looking right for overall?
ish
thick fossil
is this looking right for overall?
For a key? You lowballed Reap I guess.
naive latch
is this looking right for overall?
unfortunate reap procs
vale dove
Reap should be top?
thick fossil
Yes
dense elbow
Not always, depends on how the tank pulls
this is my dawn, with tank going very moderate
thick fossil
What dungeon?
rustic zodiac
Reap should be 1st on your dps IF you go into ever pack with bladestorm ready, so you have marks on all targets to trigger reap
naive latch
i seem to always be very even reap/rb
Should be fine tbh
vale dove
first was Ara, 2nd was Floodgate
dense elbow
Nothing wrong with it, it is all about how things are pulled and die
thick fossil
Oh man, yeah, Reap should be top in both of those.
rustic zodiac
You gotta prep it for ever chain to have blades storm. Execute and rampage reduce the cool down of blade storm so you were able to time chain pulls
dense elbow
If ya going into a next pack, before it would reset again
rustic zodiac
If it’s nearly dead, save. If it’s half dead send. It also depends on much time goes in between each pack
dense elbow
i am just sending on cd
good enough for goverment work
rustic zodiac
you have to get your own feel in each key and key level
vale dove
i mean i have done 5 12s and been top each key at around 8-9mil overall
i guess tank dictates higher overalls though
pulling adds with bosses
dense elbow
meanwhile my 15 runs:
smoky vale
meanwhile my 15 runs:
noob
rustic zodiac
Well I hope everyone is happy with fury. I know I am and it’s been a rough x pack for us
main sierra
So is Slayer better for Fury Warrior now in Mythic?
naive latch
Dk is slacking
must be a fotm player lmao
dense elbow
Yes and no, in general I would say yes
dense elbow
How?
smoky vale
:3
dense elbow
I am already dead
rustic zodiac
slayer in all content but maybe soul hunters
fading sky
Just reap it!
modest needle
so new to fury, are we just literally hammering raging blow in aoe for reap procs while maintaing enrage
vale dove
slayer in all content but maybe soul hunters
feels better with reap change
but soulhunters just sucks for melee fullstop
rustic zodiac
feels better with reap change
Thunder blaster aoe range helps
main sierra
I noticed on Archon that Mountain Thane was still top talent tree but on WowHead that Slayer is best for Mythic Keys
rustic zodiac
Only for one boss
but that might change since we got slayer fixs so gotta try it or wait on data
main sierra
I will miss Thunder Blast!
pastel oak
When was slayer fix implemented?
rustic zodiac
I don’t. Thane is slow compared to to slayers crack head spins
iron portal
I will miss Thunder Blast!
You can still play thane if you want
iron portal
When was slayer fix implemented?
This reset
rustic zodiac
I notice it like Monday night I think
iron portal
Or right before it
rustic zodiac
I haven’t had time to do keys this week as much. But it’s a lot nicer in keys having good prio and boss damage with good aoe
pastel oak
So rampage for enrage. Keep whirlwind stack up. Execute on proc for bs-redeuce. Otherwise rb spam?
hot rampart
should I prio BT at the beginning of a pack if I don't have bladestorm off CD yet?
main sierra
On keys 10-14, do you think there will be much difference between Thane and Slayer?
rustic zodiac
I’m still working on 16s, pugging is rough 🥲
naive latch
On keys 10-14, do you think there will be much difference between Thane and Slay...
slayer is more consistent but damage is roughly the same
rustic zodiac
On keys 10-14, do you think there will be much difference between Thane and Slay...
Slayer is more consistent and has better boss damage
main sierra
Ah okay. I'll give it a shot then and get a feel for it
dense elbow
Thane can do more overall DPS, and some more impact on AoE - but, slayer is close enough that the prio dam lead kinda tips most ppls value weights in favor of that spec
rustic zodiac
you can still play thane tho. But I prefer slayer since season 1
karmic fiber
Whatt target count does RB spam take prio over rage dumping witht rampage atm?
coarse nest
main sierra
Previous seasons I only used Slayer in raid
dense elbow
<:reap:1412574979517583473> <:xan:1094127979703062558>
you after eating all that pad dam
naive latch
I’m still working on 16s, pugging is rough 🥲
even on 13-14s rofl
coarse nest
absolutely!
naive latch
haven't timed a single hoa 13 because of these rat tanks and dps
main sierra
@naive latchSame! I haven't timed a 13 hoa either!
naive latch
<@191131219977568256>Same! I haven't timed a 13 hoa either!
Only one of my five runs today even made it to the 3rd boss because tanks grab aggro too late
main sierra
I get stuck in pug groups where no one kicks and and insta wipe lol
naive latch
I had an attempt with a 694 dev evoker and a 710 balance druid. Not only was damage at an all time low but kicks were just awful because only tank and I were kicking
main sierra
that sounds painful
random shadow
howdy, im gearing my warrior again as an alt, i have enoguh cata charges to cata my 4p, but the 2 pieces that i can are champ is it worth cataing for 4p
naive latch
that sounds painful
I even swapped to arms for the last part but I don't even get to see the last part kekw
coarse nest
howdy, im gearing my warrior again as an alt, i have enoguh cata charges to cata...
I would wait if i was in that position
naive latch
howdy, im gearing my warrior again as an alt, i have enoguh cata charges to cata...
I'd wait for hero/myth track
oblique flint
Am I stupid? how does Ragin blow proc reap? the tooltip says BT?
toxic turtle
howdy, im gearing my warrior again as an alt, i have enoguh cata charges to cata...
Just send on champ track. Its alt after all. And if u wanna min max, no point using gildeds to go above 704 anyways.
clever path
Am I stupid? how does Ragin blow proc reap? the tooltip says BT?
4 set
oblique flint
ahhhhh yea okay ty
clever path
royal ermine
<:reap:1412574979517583473> <:xan:1094127979703062558>
Slayer build?
bitter palm
Slayer build?
im ngl
it doesnt matter
most of these "builds"
are just 1% more aoe
1% less st
etc
royal ermine
I was just curious as I have played mostly MT before
bitter palm
oh i thought u were asking about which slayer build cause there are a few floating around
royal ermine
But slayer has always been closer to my desired playstyle
bitter palm
blowing 57 ragingly
real asf
bitter palm
there are variations of this build
for example drop both deft and blood craze
and go odyns and titanic rage
this is like
slightly better burst
slightly better aoe
worse st
but ur bt no longer extends enrage so u have to reenrage before each bladestorm
terse heath
naive latch
after about 40 declines someone finally knows that fury warrior blasts...
sounds like we should nerf arms while we're at it
proven stream
earnest canyon
What is that lizard even from?
naive latch
What is that lizard even from?
From the disney film Hoppers
earnest canyon
Never heard of it but thanks lol
junior oyster
The eyes rolling kills me every time
earnest canyon
https://tenor.com/view/lizard-hoppers-pixar-elio-lizardlizardlizard-gif-83910474...
junior oyster
Didn't know its cause the lizard was an ipad kid
coarse nest
Slayer build?
ye slayer build
modest condor
coarse nest
nova cairn
smoky vale
i need a free phone game to play
thorny peak
how big a deal is the belt nerf?
coarse nest
i need a free phone game to play
same here
work feels like ages waiting to play wow xD
smoky vale
it might just be read cultivation slop until caught up
but then ill be bored when i catch up
bitter palm
i need a free phone game to play
clash royale
sullen rune
But slayer has always been closer to my desired playstyle
me likes spinning
spinning is winning
mini spins are mini wins too
coarse nest
clash royale
not sure if its something you want to bother with but the jug expiring condition will still kaching even when execute is not castable, if not no worries
v1.0.7
coarse nest
not sure how i feel about OF
I was liking the button
but I find it more annoying to maintain enrage lol
on the flip side
easy enrage/meatcleaver
is nice to have on opener
late stratus
Yeh i just do standard, and i dont even use thunderous roar
Maybe thunderous roar is giga on gambit maybe ara
where its giga pulls
idk
cuz its not capped right
frank dawn
The dot isn’t capped, which is most of the damage
coarse nest
I run it always personally
just having the thought of "I'm hitting everything around" is nice
subtle marten
Hey fellas. Is it possible to have a macro that prioritize Odyn Fury off CD and if not Whirlwind always?
late stratus
ima try to have it
frank dawn
Yeh I always take roar. It doesn’t really matter but ya know.
late stratus
Hey fellas. Is it possible to have a macro that prioritize Odyn Fury off CD and ...
should be able to do a cast sequence macro for that no ?
coarse nest
Hey fellas. Is it possible to have a macro that prioritize Odyn Fury off CD and ...
you might be able to just simply have them both in a macro as /cast with OF as the top line
itll always cast that one first if its available
I have never tried that so test it
frank dawn
Macros don’t work at all if you have multiple abilities on gcd in them
subtle marten
I'll try it out with the line, im not good at cast sequencing, but I would assume a sequence allows the tooltip to show for when its up
frank dawn
I don’t know how the cast sequence line works with that
subtle marten
you might be able to just simply have them both in a macro as /cast with OF as t...
Line made it Odins only
cant use ww after
coarse nest
ahh yeah the cast sequence like artunias said
real goblet
anyone has OF build ?