#fury

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undone flower
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Im playing rn with flood neck, priory ring and world boss ring

dense elbow
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Halls ring and neck, with prio ring

feral ivy
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anyone know a wa that goes "focusing marker (marker)" when ready chekc for m+

nimble kraken
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are we executing at every oppurtunity with 4 pc? as long as we hold ashen juggernaut at 5 stacks?

olive wraith
earnest canyon
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Do we know if any speaks Chinese here?

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I got a question about a phrase

nimble kraken
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found the wa, ty

feral ivy
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whats yall big burst dmg in a 10 M+

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like how do i compete with that

olive wraith
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  1. Might be hard cause those burst specs are gonna slaughter lower key mobs. 2. Gap them on st
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Fury doesn’t burst

feral ivy
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i did do more in the +13AK but 🙁 i want that big burst

olive wraith
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We are a relatively flat damage profile

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If you want burst you’re gonna have to play something else

feral ivy
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never

signal steeple
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So do we just cast rampage whenever possible?

bold bear
earnest canyon
hot rampart
olive wraith
hot rampart
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Good point, I was reading thane

feral ivy
signal steeple
signal steeple
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Slayer fury, the main ST build on Wowhead

olive wraith
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Slayer wastes more rage than thane

signal steeple
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28%??

olive wraith
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I’ve never looked at rage loss

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Go look at logs and see how much rage people waste

misty bay
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rage is a fake stat

signal steeple
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Ok thanks

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The top log wastes 21% of its rage

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Maybe it is a fake stat after all

earnest canyon
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warrior is the only class I played where my resource isnt a resource...well dps casters too I guess, as they stopped mana mattering (except arcane mage) a while ago

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but even hunter focus matters, rogues with energy, dk runic power etc

hushed gust
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i mean- it matters in the sense of Anger Management, but after that, yeah. rage isn't that big an issue

earnest canyon
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all i care about is staying enraged as much as possible, i never even consider rage....but im a 50% player not a 1% one

silent gazelle
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Rage is worthless to me

brittle crow
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is maw of the void good or bad

olive wraith
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It’s a wep

brittle crow
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well i got it

winter shoal
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If only there were a way to simulate your character with specific items equipped

summer quail
bitter palm
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then dont equip it

brittle crow
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:3

bitter palm
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its that shrimple

olive wraith
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You probably like haste vers more rn

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Keep it and try it as you change gear

tepid cedar
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tiockling sac is fucking OP

summer quail
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have to remember ticking sac has no mainstat

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still pretty strong trinket tho

signal steeple
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Gambing

unborn delta
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we cap at like 5.8 right

tepid cedar
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5.953 or something like that

summer quail
brittle crow
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whatd u change

summer quail
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buffs, yours doesn't have any

brittle crow
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wtf that matters?

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damn what is oathsworn tenacity

summer quail
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also simmed all weapon enchants

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just a vers proc

brittle crow
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fix my ring enchant, stonebound/oathsworn

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damn i gotta spend gold on shit now

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rip

empty jetty
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anyone here into pvp

mystic kayak
willow cradle
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Had to make this

undone flower
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I think vexiona is one of the worst boss I ever tanked

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I was brew and I was solo tanking the boss while my mate was add tank, seeing everyone having fun but you are dummy training for 5 min

bitter palm
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raid tanking try not to suck challenge impossible

undone flower
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The most awful part was : I was playing vers corruptions while my friend was banging those adds with MASSIVE void tornados

chrome wraith
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what build of slayer are we rockin with before 4 set?

winter shoal
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for keys at least

tepid cedar
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plaiyng a key with yoda right now on a flood

calm mantle
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Anyone can share there Thane m+ talent where they use cruel strikes and roar over spear?

olive wraith
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Also. Just remove the spear points and put them into roar

calm mantle
olive wraith
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Ya just swap the point from spear to roar

calm mantle
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Awesome, thank you

molten wing
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this is what i'm running but im not 100% sure its optimal

smoky vale
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that looks fine?

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bi is pretty cosmetic in keys so you could change it to anything else if you care

edgy widget
undone flower
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I was writing i like rumbling earth lol

olive wraith
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The thane choice node with victory rush I would personally swap

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Can’t remember the talent name

edgy widget
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that's Steadfast/Feet

olive wraith
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Gotcha

undone flower
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I don’t run rallying cry on thane personnally

marble pilot
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I dont run it in keys at all.

edgy widget
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Steadfast is good, but its whole deal is using it preemptively before damage happens, when you can't count on Feet (triggers from TBlast) being available

Except with how much TBlast you get w/ 4p now, Feet is much more likely to be up than before

marble pilot
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Generally take the better shockwave over it

olive wraith
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It’s just extra hp right ?

undone flower
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I have it as slayer, since it’s my thunderclap point basically

edgy widget
# olive wraith It’s just extra hp right ?
  • Steadfast gives 5% extra stam all the time, and +10% extra max HP when you use VR (plus some largely unimportant healing)
  • Feet reduces phys damage by 2% all the time, and reduces all dam by 8% for 5s after using TBlast
marble pilot
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Be nice if Rally gets some love in midnight. Add a node to it or something. Give it groupwide leech or a heal amp or something during it

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Didnt really think about that just first thing that came to mind

bitter palm
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or just make it stronger

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in m+

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make it 30%

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in m+

edgy widget
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aside from just buffing Rally in 5m content, I like the idea of buffing Bitter Immunity and putting it on a choice node w/ Rally

undone flower
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I think it needs a little boost in raid too

molten wing
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also what's the general difference between Slayer vs Thane in M+ , if the group i'm in really lacks ST i guess i go Slayer for boss dmg and if we lack aoe i can go Thane ? Even though i generally just do 10s/12s so its at a level where i can just play whatever i prefer

edgy widget
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Most AoE <--- Colossus <--- Thane ---> F. Slayer ---> Most ST

molten wing
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nvm just saw it keks

olive wraith
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Whereas feet is just generally more damage reduction overall

smoky vale
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yes

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but the extra hp kinda doesnt do anything unless every aoe is doing 80% of your health

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imo

undone flower
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Those divine tolls can be scary but the other 2 dps will be dead before us needing the stam diff >dr

coarse nest
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I personally like running steadfast

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on demand rally every 25 seconds massively benefits incoming heals

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not to mention when your health bar isnt nuked to 10% it lets the healer focus more on another member in need

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peace of mind in a sense

edgy widget
coarse nest
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wouldnt a larger health pool benefit some heals?

edgy widget
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not really, since most aren't % based

coarse nest
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hmm ok, if anything then you get overhealed less in that window

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still a benefit even if minor

chilly fractal
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Tired AF doing a 13 Floody G earlier just face tanking suprise inspections because I couldn't be bothered to move... Feet on the Ground goes hard paired with a 15 million health pool

edgy widget
coarse nest
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in the 14s/15s ive been running i feel like that mini rally has saved my life due to a personal missplay or others missing overlapping instances of damage

olive wraith
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I guess that would pair better with iv

edgy widget
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like I said, they're both good, but Steadfast's main strength comes from using it preemptively when you know damage is coming, whereas Feet has a more passive benefit

I also generally like using VR to heal damage back up, since I can't always rely on the healer to spot me if I do happen to take some random spike of damage

coarse nest
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where a 8% dr might not have but i suppose i wouldnt have data to support that

edgy widget
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if you're running key levels at a point where you're actively worried about one shots, and especially if you're planning those things out with a tool like Not Even Close, then sure - it's great, because you don't necessarily want to rely on a passive buff that may or may not be up when you need it

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But I don't think that scenario applies to the vast majority of other players doing "regular" weekly keys either

coarse nest
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steadfest/iv + spellreflect together feels very safe, I'm a fan

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I can see where the argument for the 8% dr is very solid for a passive benefit

edgy widget
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I think a part of steadfast feels good because actively using it means you're aware of when it's up

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whereas you don't really think about Feet due to its random nature

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but I'm also fairly sure that 80%+ uptime on 8% DR is pretty nice too 😛

coarse nest
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like a halkius shard is a great example of using it about 2 seconds before the pulsating starts and then you just spike a heal on yourself mid damage intake

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on top of having a larger health pool

hybrid yew
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Is Mountain Thane that much superior than Slayer for M+ and big AoE packs?

olive wraith
fading sky
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Yes, but slayer is good in keys

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Like u can have fun and destroy bosses just fine as slayee

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And still do ok//good aoe

hybrid yew
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the thunderclapping always feels cool, but i feel so weak on bosses

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so i'll give dungeon slayer a try perhaps

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let other classes do better AoE

fading sky
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Do u have 4p?

hybrid yew
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no, i just got 2 piece

fading sky
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Kek

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Well thane isnt played until 4p

hardy cargo
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yes play slayer til 4p

fading sky
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Y thane is shit, 4p makes thane

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Both gameplay and dmg

hybrid yew
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so try out Slayer until i get 4p then try out Thane again for M+?

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how does the rotation change with 4p for Thane in M+ and on bosses? start thunderclapping bosses?

olive wraith
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Tb is highest prio

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So yes

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Although s2 we used tb on bosses as well

smoky vale
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@hallow sphinx gn

forest swallow
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How come Fury (Slayer) Raid ST talent tree on WoWhead DOSEN'T run Vicious Contempt?

young swan
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cause we dont press bloodthirst unless we run out of buttons to press

tidal beacon
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than or slayer with 4 p for keys?

young swan
hybrid yew
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i rarely use bloodthirst for single target boss fights, and when boss is low health it's execute spam time

forest swallow
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Alright, fair enough

tidal beacon
young swan
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thane will be ~500k-1m ahead on overall depending on the key

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slayer will be about the same amount ahead for prio/st

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at least in my (relatively limited) experience

olive wraith
hybrid yew
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for slayer? do we not use execute anytime we're enraged and it's up?

olive wraith
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No

young swan
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which is alwaysw

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cause it applies its own mark

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with sd

olive wraith
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I thought only sd applied mark

young swan
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its basically just on cd

hushed gust
# tidal beacon how close are they overall

if the dungeon has a really big pull like the beginning of Priory or Gambit, run Thane. if the dungeon has annoying bosses that don't have many add opportunity like Streets or Dawnbreaker, Slayer may pull ahead, but both are generally fine. At least from the perspective of someone running 10's and 11's currently, which may better reflect the average come later in the season.

young swan
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pretty epic tbh

smoky vale
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xan

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how come you werent there when i woke up again

knotty meteor
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Is everforged greataxe better than charged claymore?

slim coral
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they're the same

knotty meteor
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nice, just wanted to make sure

hallow sphinx
smoky vale
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kinda wish bazed was there to sing me a lullaby

slim coral
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I'm goated at singing

warm wharf
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Can I just macro Thunder Blast over all my other buttons or would that be bad

hardy bluff
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its just your whirlwind button

south lintel
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Unless your at 2 stacks then its prior over everything because you can proc more instant casts

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Right ?

radiant knot
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is this thing even good

surreal token
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wtf how did u get one

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holy shit

hardy bluff
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its from delves

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and dont think its good

surreal token
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i know, but that shit's so rare

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i dont care about its strength lol

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i've been tryna farm that forever

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it dropped once for me in vault, but i didnt take it in favor of a mythic item

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biggest regret of my life

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that weap is so fucking sick

radiant knot
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i mean the mog is cool sure

ivory ingot
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is jastor diamond bugged not giving the buff?

slim coral
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put on a 704

ivory ingot
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if i had a 704

brittle crow
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its like, crit/vers

slim coral
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it's a bait sim

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cuase the ring doesnt work

ivory ingot
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still better then my 691 crit vers ring

sullen dove
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flip a coin

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game

ivory ingot
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belt simming less then a 701 haste mastery belt tho keksquad

dusk urchin
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+2'd my 10 floodgate and got pacemaker

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ka chowww

ivory ingot
karmic fiber
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Hows the damage variance from pull to pull looking like for slayer single target with 4p atm?

ivory ingot
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steady dmg

dull wolf
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Is anyone experiencing an issue where pressing charge takes like a second to actually get cast? I've had this happen for a week or so now and it's very annoying, especially in raids.

ivory ingot
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lag?

dull wolf
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specifically and only for pressing charge on pull?

somber thicket
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Is Screams of a Forgotten Sky only good at ST? Its sims very bad at multi target

hazy mural
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its pretty solid for a "passive" trinket

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also considering no primary stat

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idk i get a lot out of it but i'm a guy that needs very little these days lol

queen panther
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For cursed stone Idol, as Fury do u want to pop it before or after u pop avatar/reck?

hardy bluff
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before

queen panther
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So, Idol -> Avatar/Reck -> Charge?

hardy bluff
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in opener you can use stone idol mid charge

queen panther
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Oh?

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Oh that's pretty cool

past lance
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what do i need to recrafft the charged claymore to 720?

hardy bluff
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gilded crests

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and 2 sparks

pseudo rampart
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Heya! Do we macro reck with avatar? Haven't played my warrior for a while

pseudo rampart
remote bobcat
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reck - > ava

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so u can double the rage gain from ava

pseudo rampart
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gottcha, thank you!

smoky vale
remote bobcat
white root
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is arms better than fury rn? After %8 buff?

remote bobcat
smoky vale
remote bobcat
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?

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elaborate

smoky vale
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sov is game

remote bobcat
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maybe show a clip or smth gio

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im not gonna go google random shit

dull vortex
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team, they changed being able to upgrade 2nd weapon for free

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u cant do that with trinkets now im guessing?

spare steppe
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Never could for trinkets or rings

radiant plank
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u could rings with a funny crafting exploit

digital arrow
hardy bluff
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you can still upgrade your 2nd weapon for free

dull vortex
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sry i meant they changed it from not being able to upgrade to now being able to, idk when i didnt play for some time before s3

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i was just wondering if u can do that with trinkets

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but seem like u cant

upper trellis
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yeah weapon USED to need both for the discount unlock but now its only rings/trinkets that are that way

dull vortex
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ye, thanks!

calm mantle
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Do we use the delve belt or just a hero belt?

meager hound
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Delve belt at 701 is currently simming higher than a max-upgraded heroic belt for me.

analog marlin
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hey guys should I play slayer on mythic+ if I only have 2 pieces of tier set?

tight roost
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Its stronger than thane at 2/2

sick hound
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hey do you sim your gem with 'only max colors' or not?

digital arrow
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13 gambit, still standing the ground of the furys 😄

spare steppe
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Did you go slayer or thane for gambit?

sturdy spoke
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is that your after dmg?

digital arrow
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thane, ye thats overall

spare steppe
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I liked how thane felt but felt like the first half felt like padding

sturdy spoke
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wow impressive Im only around 4mil

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whats your loadout?

digital arrow
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yeah i kinda got lucky af with everything, got first boss and last boss trinket for raid

untold quest
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for mountain thane, if burst of power procs, do we just spam both charges of bloodthirst as long as we dont have rage for rampage?

wheat oyster
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if BS is up and reck is 5-10 seconds off cd are you holding BS for it?

frosty scroll
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absolutely, 1 or 2 rampages and youll have reck up again

upper trellis
meager hound
sturdy spoke
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and I aint that good

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is it half a spark or a full spark next week?

warm crag
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Half spark, full spark and cata will alternate every week

sturdy spoke
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damn really wasted my sparks

warm crag
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If you didnt craft wep ye its a bit rip but not end of the world

iron portal
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Dw this tier will drag for a while

valid pulsar
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I tested out this weak aura from wowhead guide for fury execute conditions and one of the triggers is 2 stacks of marked for execution if sudden death procc is also active. If no sudden death procc is active even with 2 or 3 stacks of marked for execution it does not trigger

iron portal
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And unless you are competing for some high rank in guild (where they wont use warrior for most bosses anyway keks ) you have time

valid pulsar
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it makes sense for mobs above 20% but if the mob is below 20% i can use execute without SD procc but there is still no trigger even with 2 stacks of mark

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is it supposed to be like that ?

sturdy spoke
upper trellis
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@valid pulsar i just follow the KA-CHING and it certainly seems so

hazy storm
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hey guys alittle confused/ on icy veins they told me to use champions spear but in archon more people are using dragon's roar

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what's the truth?

valid pulsar
unreal onyx
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worth spending all my gilded crests on gear this week or keep them to craft 2nd embell item next reset?

warm crag
unreal onyx
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gear would be either myth track bis ring from priory or myth track tier chest

warm crag
warm crag
quiet breach
valid pulsar
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got it thank you

hazy storm
quiet breach
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barely

upper trellis
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still blows me away that we only lose ~5% using blizzard's "hekili"

celest anchor
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boss dead gg gladge

elder epoch
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Wouldve killed first if you played warriorokayge

forest owl
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loving the dps warrior representation in this rwf clueless

earnest canyon
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At least there is a warrior 😛

orchid sluice
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is there any? xD

forest owl
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only pwarrs in liquid, echo and method not sure about any others

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although hunter is also in the same boat apparently

earnest canyon
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yes hunter cant even tank....only class missing in rwf dimensius

iron portal
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There was on fractillus or w/e is its name

eternal canopy
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can anyone send the gif of the cat doing the warrior spells?

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slam and ms and shit

frosty orchid
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Psf 10 ... i cant get the DK ... damn ...

devout totem
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u arent supposed to

frosty orchid
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🙁

pulsar quest
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holy shit

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i CANNOT BELIEVE HOW CLOSE IT WAS

celest anchor
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we get them next time for sure wicked

pulsar quest
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brother you guys

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are so fucking good

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thoes back to back pulls

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i was legit on the edge of my seat

iron portal
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Too bad the clutch pulls happened so late in the day for EU.

celest anchor
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we had irl pi from redbull last night was crazy

frosty orchid
iron portal
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As in, pulling past 1 AM is very taxing

untold quest
celest anchor
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we found out sleep is op

heavy dock
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does dimensius have some secret phase on mythic?

iron portal
celest anchor
iron portal
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Secret is death

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What did you end up pull wise

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400~?

celest anchor
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something like that

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boss was just hard every phase was crazy

warm crag
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@celest anchor gg king

celest anchor
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tyty

warm crag
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Surely Brown man next time

celest anchor
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for sure...

warm crag
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Cluegi

pulsar quest
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how do you think warrior wouldve done for the needed p3 damage

warm crag
pulsar quest
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do you think it would be better or worse

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with arms being buffed

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its execute damage is very real

celest anchor
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p3 all damage matters and theres a damage amp

pulsar quest
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yeah thats true

celest anchor
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so arms would get rolled still

wheat lantern
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are we always firing off avatar / spear on cd or do you happen to get out of the loop or dont matter much

celest anchor
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dk/rogue stuff like that just destroys the damage amp on this guy and is tuned high aswell

pulsar quest
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yeah, to me it seemed like the fight is not difficult for you guys obviously mechanically, but the tuning numbers wise is VERY HIGH

sudden tusk
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Warrior just has no real burst. So every boss with a damage amp it's just worse

warm crag
fading sky
sudden tusk
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Sub rogue with triangle of doom very strong

celest anchor
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p3 was pretty dank

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main thing was just good positioning though

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then 1 heal

warm crag
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The pull crush ring combo in p3 after 2nd devour looked brutal

sudden tusk
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Dk hit the funny no move button

radiant knot
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Is this good for m+?

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or raid only

hollow leaf
heavy dock
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damn i thought i did good on fractilis then i see blue parse.. ilvl is 83 tho so ig im still way behind in gear lol

heavy dock
hollow leaf
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blue parse > grey parse

hollow leaf
heavy dock
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got a grey parse on soul hunters cuz we had a druid kamikaze the hunt into melee grp

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5 people died

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i wasnt one to get cr lol

hollow leaf
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I mean you're supposed to soak it

heavy dock
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yea.. but usually u sit still and ppl come to you

hollow leaf
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ye

heavy dock
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this guy jumped into a grp of 8 people that were quite closely stacked

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needless to say, the circles killed us lol

hollow leaf
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ah yeah the stacking was the problem there xd

hollow leaf
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unlucky

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you'll get them next time

fading sky
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It looked fuckin intense

hollow leaf
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Idk I don't think there was much happening

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outside of just positioning

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nexus king was cooler

heavy dock
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true

fading sky
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Disagree

hollow leaf
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you spend half the fight with dimensius hand covering your camera and flying

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insane boss

fading sky
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I think p1 looked awesome

heavy dock
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eh

hollow leaf
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wdym

heavy dock
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p1 has the best mechanics

hollow leaf
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nothing happened in p1

heavy dock
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probably

fading sky
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?

heavy dock
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p2 is lol

fading sky
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Nothing?

heavy dock
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and p3 is kinda boring ngl

fading sky
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P2 is classic add part y

hollow leaf
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it's heroic with 1 more person to pull down and some more adds to pad on

heavy dock
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imo kiljaeden felt like a more complex fight

fading sky
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P3 i think with all the dmg soak splits

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Circles going out

heavy dock
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i had high hopes for dimensius, normal and hc bored me and mythic looks just harder

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really hoped they would do some insane shit

fading sky
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Ok, i think it was and is great + well tuned

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But every1 to their own

heavy dock
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like killing miss and mr dimensius jr. wasnt what i had in mind for the ' hes bigger than dalaran' phase

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phase 2 could've been so cool

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sadly we got add phase

fading sky
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I mean its an end boss classic

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Sylvanas style

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But better

restive peak
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Absolutely insane fight

limber oar
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what are these terrible dimensius takes

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the boss looks wild on mythic lmfao

wheat lantern
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cursed stone idol or just rock another trink and not worry about channeling ?

thick fossil
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You can move while channeling though.

restive peak
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Charge>channel>land as it hits and go ham

quiet breach
celest anchor
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not sure how many chars we do for rest of xpac but i will be playing warr as one of them atleast

limber oar
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gz on a great comp wallife

dusty cove
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someone told me that gally ring dosent sim correctly and that we should replace with another ring. My gally ring currently sims 45K ahead of another ring

restive peak
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45k

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Wtf is your other ring

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A 620 ring?

dusty cove
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the whispers of karesh at 704

restive peak
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There's no shot that's a 45k diff lol

restive peak
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Run it with your crafts swapped to vers/mast and see

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Feels like you just have way too much haste possibly then

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Or run a droptimizer vs other 704 M+ rings to see

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But it is bugged, yeah, so I'd say if you can find something even within 10-15k it's worth the swap

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Just to avoid the bug

dusty cove
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Noted, ill try move stuff around, thanks for the help. Is it possible to sim all m+ dungeons at once for droptimizer?

restive peak
#

Yep, should be an option and there there's a little section to select ilvl/gems, make sure to set those to 704+whatever gems you usually use

#

And np big dog, anytime

odd vapor
#

got 4 set, changing to thane, whats the prio here 😮

iron holly
limber oar
#

wowhead

willow granite
#

bt and clap

#

get it

odd vapor
elder epoch
#

is there any way to find a hm taza group or just post shit up in lfr and pray?

warm crag
#

only ways are friends, guild or some lfg of some description

elder epoch
#

Lfg it is then

supple moon
#

Are Luxthos WAs for Fury good? Or are they to much? I was looking for something that would keep track of my Enrage and maybe my stacks of Raging Blow but other than that I don't need much else to play.

warm crag
#

any popular weakaura pack will basically be doing the same thing and mostly the "correct" thing

iron holly
#

is there a haste breakpoint? what's considered "too much?"

chilly fractal
#

Once you are hitting DR for both Haste and Mastery you’ll likely be wanting a bit more Vers and Crit

dusty cove
cobalt relic
#

arms better now than fury?

#

for m+

quiet breach
#

that's where ppl list them

elder epoch
tame bay
#

When I do my opener, after I charge I have 79 rage, what do I do to ensure I have 80 rage when I charge to instantly rampage?

modest condor
#

make sure you're in combat before you use your cooldowns

tight roost
bitter palm
#

for st/prio no

#

if u want something in the middle play fury thane

cobalt relic
#

kk

slim coral
#

Surely the warrior apex talents are useful

flat river
#

Hello fellow warriors

coarse nest
#

hello fam

flat river
#

Hopefully they rework the trees a little bit

#

Especially the class one

sturdy spoke
#

The dont have the staff to do that

#

already wasting a ton of resources on a dps meter and weak auras

valid tree
#

Does annyone got a good wa with sound that sends sound when thunderblast procks? 🙂

junior gale
slim coral
#

Spiteful serenity meta incoming

bitter palm
#

sd cancelaura

#

time

#

tom moved to avatar

#

4 pis in avatar

#

43 pis after avatar to keep tom going

#

peak

junior gale
#

Ok that would be kinda cool tho

forest knot
#

if tom was like

#

MS/op's cast

#

instead of rage spent

#

take apage out of colossal mights book ig

sour thorn
#

stupid question besides orc, whats a good pve race for fury? horde only

bitter palm
#

vulpera

junior gale
#

Which ever one looks the coolest

bitter palm
warm crag
bitter palm
junior gale
#

Ah yes the crackheads

#

We love those guys

bitter palm
#

balls

#

ballshd even

fading sky
#

for sure condemn will be our apex talent

thick fossil
young swan
#

considering its so weak

#

makes way more sense as an inclusion for slayer

#

0 opportunity cost

bitter palm
#

could be a choice node

#

aoe/st

#

kinda like internal bleeding and caustic spatter

#

the moment there is more than 1 mob u never take internal bleeding

young swan
#

okay but heavy handed only works for arms

bitter palm
#

+3 if cleaved

#

by fury

#

5->8 for exe

#

powerful execute

#

and arms hits +3 with ss so 5 or something idk

#

fatality might work in that case in low count aoe

junior gale
#

All I know if the DF season 3 4pc for arms isn't in the Slayer tree next expansion it's jover

bitter palm
#

that should be i nthe class tree/spec tree for arms

#

colo would likely play sd too

junior gale
#

Fury version would be sick too

bitter palm
#

fury could be

#

autocasts ww

junior gale
#

SD casts a stronger WW

bitter palm
#

fan of longswords on exe

#

ye

#

wrecking ball

#

type shit

#

they could just put it on slayer tree too i wouldnt mind but i wish sd was a real proc for all warriors

bitter palm
#

4p thane

#

u sd

#

and it sends more powerful 4p tb

#

would be so cinema

coarse nest
#

Cone sometimes wa will kaching when execute isnt castable

junior gale
#

I just want that 4pc into our talents in some way man

coarse nest
#

is there a way to prevent that?

junior gale
coarse nest
#

pretty sure its the x mfe condition

bitter palm
#

ye idk why it does that i need to sit on dummies and check it

#

cause it should early return

#

if exe isnt castable

junior gale
#

Someone like a week ago fixed it to only kaching when off cd

coarse nest
#

youre the best love this wa

#

:)

junior gale
#

But I don't remember their name

bitter palm
#

ye i need to debug it

coarse nest
#

i have it positioned with higher strata in the same spot as my exe/sd wa's in my wa suite

#

so i cant always tell when it isnt castable

bitter palm
#

find some better way to check if exe is usable

#

ye i have issues with it too

#

it sometimes confuses me

#

grown too reliant on it

sturdy spoke
#

Its so tiresum to constantly hunt for this egg

tepid cedar
#

ok so this is super interesting

coarse nest
tepid cedar
#

i jsut did 8 4 min ST test.

#

4 with sac + forgotten

#

4 with forgotten+sack

#

i think sims are wrong

coarse nest
#

no way the slot matters

tepid cedar
#

sack + forgotten, won every 4 min test

#

i averaged 4.05-4.12 with sac + forgotten

#

with sack+forgotten i was averagiung 4.25-4.35

coarse nest
#

possible sim calls for the trinket slot in a weird way? ( I have no idea about sim functionality just yapping)

tepid cedar
#

no no no

coarse nest
#

OH

#

two sacks

#

word

tepid cedar
#

yes

#

i think sac is over inflated

#

tSoT does does more damage

coarse nest
#

time to farm

sturdy spoke
#

Ive farmed for both, nothing comes

#

only sadness

tepid cedar
#

thius was the 4.35 on dummie

coarse nest
#

I need screams so bad

#

im sure the outlaw will get it next though

#

havoc got the first

tepid cedar
#

got this last night

sturdy spoke
#

I dont even have a guild to kill heroic dim

tepid cedar
#

same stats as tiered waist

coarse nest
tepid cedar
#

yea we got bis bis brew

coarse nest
#

it doesnt sim better than current one though

#

sadly

tepid cedar
#

io jsut replaced it regardless

#

only 2-4.5k loss

#

i said fuck it

coarse nest
#

I was planning to replace once i had crests or a socket to slam onto it

#

or whenver it sims more

tepid cedar
#

i hop;ing to get myth legs from loom tonight

coarse nest
#

i add it in every sim just incase

sturdy spoke
coarse nest
#

keep in mind no main stat

#

the damage appears high becuase it doesnt effect other abilities

#

this is normal

#

that being said

#

it is very strong yes

tepid cedar
#

@edgy widget do u knowe if forgotten scales off of verse?:

sturdy spoke
#

is the Acanocore ok for keys?

edgy widget
tepid cedar
#

kk

fickle cedar
#

was thinking about this, would charge - roar mid charge be a small optimization for ST ? since we're barely using it and it has a huge range, you would still be able to avatar rampage straight away when you hit the boss

edgy widget
#

although slight, the GCD does still delay your opening Rampage, which is generally your first priority

fickle cedar
#

yeah that makes sense, it just feels horrible to have a filler 1:30 critcake

charred flint
#

jesus

#

this streets dungeon

#

is fucking awful

junior gale
#

Idk it's pretty free after nerfs

#

Prob 2nd easiest dung now

fickle cedar
#

yeah the elite preboss was the hardest thing but now its fine

narrow umbra
#

question during rotation do we have to always wait for 3 slayer's strikes to maximize execute's dmg?

junior gale
elder epoch
#

Roar as a filler man ggwp never pressing it

junior gale
#

You can swap off it for another utility node if u want

hollow leaf
#

@slim coral

#

sudden death procs between us on araz during first pot

#

ICANT

charred flint
#

Just a boring dungeon

#

small trashs

sturdy spoke
#

I GOT A SACK

#

PARTY AT MY PLACE

hollow leaf
#

sims under arcanocore for me

#

it got nerfed a good bit

charred flint
#

well yeah arcanocore is better

sturdy spoke
hollow leaf
#

sack

junior gale
sturdy spoke
#

well I have sack + arcanocore now

hollow leaf
#

ye my sim tells me acranocore + sacbrood

sturdy spoke
#

Well I aint got a sac brood

#

and its taken a week to get a sack

hollow leaf
#

unlucky

sturdy spoke
#

LET ME HAVE SOME VICTORY

hollow leaf
#

dw I've done 14 streets since yesterday

#

just to farm the boots

sturdy spoke
#

its 3:40am and Im going to go celbrate and get chocolate from 7/11

hollow leaf
#

tell the cashier you got a sack in wow

steep fable
#

I just realized, to get the last crest transmutation, you have to get a hero belt and level it to 704 -_-
Not a big deal, just annoying

odd vapor
#

In Thane ST, its just BT and TB?

sturdy spoke
odd vapor
#

Like always

hollow leaf
proper veldt
#

hey guys
in the mailroom in tazavesh in HM , does avatar remove the roots from picking up the bomb>?

warm crag
#

ye

#

i held it for bombs but i also played prot and it dont really matter

proper veldt
#

are you sure? i am pretty sure i did it last time and it didnt work

chilly fractal
proper veldt
#

are you 100% sure?

sudden tusk
#

Use for set 1 avatar set 2

warm crag
proper veldt
#

no i am not cus last time i tried it and it didnt work so i had to ask for lust

junior gale
#

Avatar doesn't make you immune to roots it breaks roots you have to press it after you get rooted

proper veldt
#

woah shocking bro i wasnt aaware

#

ty arms troll

sturdy spoke
#

thats a good tip

young swan
#

someone didnt play tindral prog

junior gale
sturdy spoke
#

I was a DK or Monk for Tindral

junior gale
#

Oh tswift what a boss fight

young swan
#

that fight sucked man

chilly fractal
#

TFW you used OF with 1 second of Avatar left in roots

sudden tusk
#

Titans tournament I miss you

young swan
#

i will never tolerate 400 pull boss apologists

sudden tusk
#

Thanks autocorrect

young swan
#

yeah u got owned actually

hollow leaf
#

get got

sudden tusk
#

Fug

chilly fractal
#

Titans Tournament coming in 13.0

hollow leaf
#

is that like the old blood arena

chilly fractal
#

Sure

old cairn
#

hey what is cap of stat ?

hollow leaf
#

depends on the stat and the spec

#

your sims take stat breakpoints into account

old cairn
#

for fury

hollow leaf
#

dw about it

#

nothing you need to care about

#

just sim

inland bison
#

does anyone have any rough numbers as to how much damage I lose swapping to the tangles on loom'ithar mythic so I can sell the propaganda to officers

hollow leaf
#

a good bit

#

considering you drop your frenzy etc

young swan
#

i would just bladestorm when convenient

hollow leaf
#

and MfE

#

yeah

young swan
#

dont ramp them

#

yeah

hollow leaf
#

yeah

hollow leaf
warm crag
hollow leaf
tepid cedar
#

game changer for mouseover casting

sturdy spoke
#

until blizz ruins name plates again

tepid cedar
#

depressing. this onme, and barely missed a 16 flood last nighjt

sturdy spoke
#

Take a moment to pat your self on the back, thats a high level key

unique wyvern
#

Boop is right ❤️

#

guys

#

when do i cast cursed stone idol? After Rec/Charge, or i charge, thunder clap, cast idol, then release CDs?

tepid cedar
#

shouldve had the frost. had no procs on the final big pull

#

/cast Recklessness
/cast charge
/use 14

#

uise ava after it casts

unique wyvern
#

Thanks man ❤️

tepid cedar
#

use 13 if in your first slot

unique wyvern
#

Im starting to note that everyone uses 14 to on use trinkets lol

hollow leaf
#

I have it on 13

nocturne oyster
#

hey, for single target, how many times do i slam RB before i hit rampage?

pulsar quest
#

until ur about to drop enrage

#

usually 2-3 times

#

or if ur going to hit rage cap

#

although u can kinda ignore rage cap

nocturne oyster
#

is it ok to ignore rage cap?

steep fable
#

Just got the idol finally....so glad the channel is not interruptible
You can hit it and still move while the channel finishes.
I was bracing for puzzle box PTSD

pulsar quest
#

its not terrible, it wont be for long because you will be using rampage to keep enrage up anyways

#

so if u get rage capped it will only be for like 1-2 globals at most

nocturne oyster
#

alright

smoky vale
#

hi eddie

pulsar quest
#

hi

nocturne oyster
#

i'll try and be more careful about not rampaging too early

#

just got a 23 parse on fractillitus

pulsar quest
#

post ur log in the log review channel

nocturne oyster
#

and i'm thinking i've been doing something completly wrong

#

sure

brittle crow
#

it's entirely possible that your last unhinged bloodthirst re-enrages u and u get 4 raging blow resets in a row

#

if this happens ur supposed to overcap for 4 globals and just mash

#

if in aoe ur supposed to refresh whirlwind and keep mashing if necessary

pulsar quest
#

BT takes prio over RB in aoe over 3 targets however

nocturne oyster
#

yeah, but fractilitus is pure Single target, i feel like i'v egotten AOE down okay

brittle crow
#

6 targets, but not after bladestorm

pulsar quest
#

actually with 4pc tier ur right its 6 targets

#

without 4pc its 3

brittle crow
#

after bladestorm rb out prioritizes most things

pulsar quest
#

but most people will have 4 now

#

bladestorm u will always RB after due to SS and the slayer talent that buffs ramp

brittle crow
#

yar

nocturne oyster
#

just one RB after?

#

or multiple

pulsar quest
#

in aoe i usually do this:

nocturne oyster
#

ah, im talking pure ST

pulsar quest
#

After every bladestorm

#

u RB as much as u can without dropping enrage

#

then last GCD of enrage should be a rampage

brittle crow
#

doesn't have to be last gcd

pulsar quest
brittle crow
#

your last gcd can be raging blow

#

it's ok to ramp when not enraged

pulsar quest
#

i wouldnt try to send that buffed rampage without enrage if u can help it

#

unless u have to

brittle crow
#

it's rampage

#

it enrages u

pulsar quest
#

i mean yeah its not like game changing i guess

#

i just try not to drop my enrage

#

so u could technically drop it for a second to get 1 more in

brittle crow
#

dropping enrage is optimal in a lot of situations

#

because you don't lose the haste

#

if ur last enraged gcd is raging blow, and you drop enrage for a fraction of a second, it still got hasted because u were enraged when u pressed it

#

so your ramp still comes out at speed

pulsar quest
#

yeah thats true

#

so you could really usually get out like

#

3 or so after BS

#

depending on resets

brittle crow
#

depends on ur resets

nocturne oyster
#

you guys use WA's to track this shit lol?

brittle crow
#

i semi regularly get all 5

pulsar quest
#

no

nocturne oyster
#

fuck

pulsar quest
#

i just spam RB after bladestorm

brittle crow
pulsar quest
#

then when i cant anymore just press ramp

nocturne oyster
#

so i just gotta be smart

#

oh shit

pulsar quest
#

i think i have one i just dont really look at it ig

nocturne oyster
brittle crow
#

i use a general purpose warrior weakaura for tracking everything

pulsar quest
#

same

#

i use TMYs

brittle crow
#

took luxthos' and customized it

warm crag
#

5 rbs after a bladestorm is very rare idk if id describe it as semil regularily

pulsar quest
#

my typically is like 3

brittle crow
#

get luckier, sponger

pulsar quest
#

sometims 4-5

brittle crow
#

not that hard

#

when's the last time you been to church your bad karma may be influencing it

#

go to a confessional

pulsar quest
#

i actually cant wait for reclear

#

some of these heroic fights i was parsing like 80-90s on without 4pc

#

im ready to fuck next week

brittle crow
#

4pc was free parses this week cuz a lot of people don't have it

#

my dumbass parsed 99 on every fight lol

pulsar quest
#

i had 1 pc for so long

#

@nocturne oyster

#

this is what my pack looks like

#

and ill take a SS of the stacks counter

#

this is it in combat

#

thats what i track

nocturne oyster
#

hmm, is ashn juggernaut worth tracking?

compact knot
#

no not really

#

noting on fury is worth tracking

#

except sudden death conditions

sullen dove
#

think the wa just like also tracks that too sorta

compact knot
#

it does yeah

sullen dove
#

but not super common to drop it anyway

compact knot
#

the sd weakaura is pretty much the only thing worth looking at

pulsar quest
#

not on fury really

#

its just there

#

ill be honest i dont even look at jugg as fury

#

you are missing 3% damage from this talent

#

not the overall issue but just 1 talent wrong

edgy widget
sturdy spoke
edgy widget
#

also you don't really want Enrage running out while you're pressing Raging Blow, since Reap can miss out on the bonus

brittle crow
#

if u high roll like that

#

guess id have to look at what the robot does

nocturne oyster
pulsar quest
#

piercing howl

nocturne oyster
#

Even at the cost of RB casts?

pulsar quest
#

i would rather drop cruel strikes 1 pt than drop duel wield spec

#

if u had to

#

ideally u dont drop any of them

tepid cedar
compact knot
tepid cedar
compact knot
#

even when enraged

compact knot
#

oh wait

pulsar quest
#

i mean u just drop howel

compact knot
#

you have another point

pulsar quest
#

howl

#

lol

compact knot
#

yeah drop howl

sturdy spoke
#

Cool, Im getting close to those numbers

#

feels good man

tepid cedar
nocturne oyster
edgy widget
heavy dock
#

have you guys seen a more scuffed lineup

edgy widget
brittle crow
#

every other pull at worst

smoky vale
edgy widget
#

starting with 2 charges and getting 3 resets in a row? statistically that is pretty uncommon

brittle crow
#

uncommon things can happen a lot over a 3 hr raid night, it's worth knowing how to handle it

#

if im doing it wrong id wanna know

#

i never felt the dynamic haste slump from letting the 5th rb rock

edgy widget
#

you say every other pull though, and that would be extremely highballing the rng

#

you've got a cumulative ~4% chance to reset RB 3 times in a row

brittle crow
#

im a gacha player those are downright good odds

#

4% chance to reset 3 times in a row, but you have 2 charges

#

so even if u miss it once u got more shots

compact knot
#

thats taken into account

brittle crow
#

damn

smoky vale
#

hi k6

edgy widget
#

getting 5 GCDs in before Enrage falls is also pretty uncommon

compact knot
#

its worth it to do when it happens, but i wouldnt ever want to drop enrage to do it personally

compact knot
smoky vale
#

how is trial going

edgy widget
#

you typically only hit 5 if you go into Bladestorm already having Slaughtering active

compact knot
#

probably ok

#

idk

smoky vale
#

w

compact knot
#

warrior is ass so im not in for prog

smoky vale
#

sadge

compact knot
#

also missing the first week kinda fucks me lmao

brittle crow
#

which happens ... sometimes

#

ok maybe this isn't every other pull

#

i swear it happens a good enough amount tho

compact knot
#

you can probably consistently do it in lust because of deft

charred flint
#

damn

#

arms being bad took 2 weeks only?

smoky vale
#

its still critcake

compact knot
#

its only good on specific bosses i think

#

then everything else bottom still

smoky vale
#

its probably good on loomithar if you never swap

#

i think swapping for tangles to get jug is bait

junior gale
#

yeah dont look at total arms parses or anything

compact knot
#

(15)

eager thorn
#

is monk ring meant to work on araz adds?

compact knot
#

yes

eager thorn
#

they're just running straight through for us

signal locust
#

Is screams trinket awful for m+?

modest condor
#

ring is on the knockback dr afaik

smoky vale
young swan
edgy widget
smoky vale
#

@young swan do you wanna do keys :3

young swan
#

if u just place the ring ontop they just go thru

tepid cedar
#

man we start araz tonight., nmot l;ooking forward to it

modest condor
#

it doesnt cause dr, but if they are dr'd they can just run through

young swan
tepid cedar
#

where the nerffsss

eager thorn
#

alright ty ill pass it on

young swan
charred flint
tepid cedar
young swan
#

yeah, on tuesday

tepid cedar
nocturne oyster
#

how many GCD's do we typically get in one enrage?

charred flint
tepid cedar
#

if u have a rtx 4xxx card or 5xxx card

#

turn on smooth motion

eager thorn
#

are people thinking slayer > araz btw? seen more slayer povs but thane seems to be doing more dmg

charred flint
#

brodah if i had a 4xxx rtx i hope i wouldnt have fps issues with WoW

tepid cedar
#

basically on my 240mhz monitort. i turn that on and cap wow to 200 fps. then when in game, it runs at 100 fps, but its basically a locked 200 fps at all times even in raid

young swan
tepid cedar
#

u would wow ,likes cpui

#

not gpu

charred flint
#

I have a i9770k and for some reason i have shit fps

tepid cedar
#

and in games that are cpu bound. frame gen does miracles

young swan
tepid cedar
#

3d chips make a woprld of diff

eager thorn
#

sounds good ty

tepid cedar
#

combine it with frame gen and ur always 200 + frames

charred flint
#

meh

#

its actually nuts a 20 year old game run this bad

tepid cedar
#

shit code.

#

and wow doesnt utilize cores properly

jovial meadow
#

Hello ! What is the rotation for single target ? Am lost

earnest canyon
nocturne oyster
#

There should be a link to wowhead or something like this

unreal onyx
#

how much of a realistic dps "loss" is roar in m+ over spear?

nocturne oyster
nocturne oyster
unreal onyx
#

wowhead guide is all you need to read

heavy dock
#

guys as zandalari do we still use paku? or another offering

jovial meadow
#

Ty you the best

wet locust
#

does plexus have a charge bug for anyone else (hc only apparantly)

#

or atleast not normal idk

hollow leaf
#

charge bug how

wet locust
#

like the classic charge bug of pathing to narnia

#

in this instance to a wall and back in

#

a long charge

young swan
#

idk shit like that happens all the time

#

just charge being janky

wet locust
#

didnt on normal but has ..3x in a row now so

#

maybe the 4th okayge

warm crag
#

personally never had it noob

#

ask your tanks to move

wet locust
#

it was on pull sadge

warm crag
#

stand somewhere else before charging

wet locust
#

180? got it

eternal sundial
#

@warm crag why does your pfp look like the right leg is coming out of the hosen

#

Like a penis

warm crag
#

????