white crane
Or patchwerk
#fury
proud vessel
is there a difference between quality in jumper cables?
flat river
is there a difference between quality in jumper cables?
faster time, and lower chance of failure
proud vessel
thanks
storm sorrel
what are people finding a good spell queue setting for fury to be? feeling sluggish and not sure whats happening
south kayak
Ion on the Echo stream lmao
proven hornet
why i dont have full rage after charge on plexus? only 79???
south kayak
auto attack
undone flower
what are people finding a good spell queue setting for fury to be? feeling slugg...
i play with baseline spell queue, i think it's 200
i don't really know the number, but i know i never changed it
it's 400
storm sorrel
Just noticing a bit of lack of responsiveness compared to say watching critcake stream where abilities seem to be going off a lot more snappy
worthy crescent
Sorry if this is answered somewhere, is the 2p-2p m+ build recommended for players who are just starting the season and only have last seasons tier currently?
flat river
guys when i press RB and ignore rampage to cap rage i end up with less damage than if i were to focus rampage
what do you guys think
flat river
guys when i press RB and ignore rampage to cap rage i end up with less damage th...
also worse logs
flat river
ohh
flat river
i see
stoic echo
But otherwise you wanna be 115-130 rage , then rampage, then back to RB
flat river
but otherwise focus rampage for CD reduction with AM
stoic echo
You don't want to overcap otherwise
undone flower
Just noticing a bit of lack of responsiveness compared to say watching critcake ...
i wouldn't know sorry, i don't see his hotbar or his keyboard on his stream
hushed ocean
hello guys, how do you deal with the fact that some random DK can make better overall than you with 5 ilvl less
it's pissing me off
radiant plank
skill issue
slim coral
Just noticing a bit of lack of responsiveness compared to say watching critcake ...
that sounds more like a lag/delay issue
I haven't touched my spell queue once and it's very snappy
undone flower
yes if you have more than 150 ping it might be 400 is not enough
given you are a regular human with around 200 brain ping
slim coral
200 brain?
upper trellis
i play my spell queue window at 235. usual ping to world is 13 and sometimes will ping 25 so i just added 200 to the average lag
undone flower
200 brain?
mage stuff supposedly
upper trellis
i think the go to spellqueuewindow is "your latency plus 200" unless it gives you trouble
just be sure to change it if you are playing with OCE etc
undone flower
for the minimum, but having more spell queue doesn't affect you, since it is the max
400 = you can spell queue from 0 to 400
and you can change the queue
upper trellis
having very recently played a bit of classic, i think spell queue was way more obvious when we still had those "on next melee swing" abilities imo
undone flower
classic is tick server based, you play a turn based mmo basically
upper trellis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ4gVn2W8v8 here it is this dude explains it beautifully
tiny swift
im struggling to see the point of our target cap.. watching DKs and locks and hunters just pump big numbers in packs and im struggling with my 5 packs... how do blizzard not see this ?
upper trellis
because we were REALLY good for ONE boss a couple expacs ago
and they cant have legacy classes outshining their new classes
tiny swift
its an absolute joke I've watched druid tanks do huge numbers too and im sweating trying to get the most out of my rotation lol
upper trellis
plus with the way specs work they cant have dps warrior too strong otherwise tank warrior becomes a 4th dps slot
slim coral
?
slim coral
that's not how that works
south kayak
that's not how that works
No you don't get it, Blizzard deliberately does not want warrior to do good damage
burnt kelp
plus with the way specs work they cant have dps warrior too strong otherwise tan...
That's the wrong way of seeing it
slim coral
undone flower
plus with the way specs work they cant have dps warrior too strong otherwise tan...
how it works
south kayak
^ there u go
upper trellis
that feels about right
south kayak
it's all tuning rng
burnt kelp
Its actually "nerf arms when Blizzard wants to nerf prot or fury"
south kayak
someone's best at something at certain seasons
undone flower
tuning rng is the most important thing about specs
south kayak
someone else another
undone flower
waiting the tuning rng to roll on fury warrior = you are INSANE
south kayak
Don't tell me warrior isn't doing well this season, because they are so far
upper trellis
they just rolling D100s for the numbers to plug in
burnt kelp
I only half watched the race but I dont remember a lot of dps warrior in it
undone flower
if you want to play on the tuning rng, just prepare multiple char, don't put all your eggs in the same basket
burnt kelp
Yeah for warrior thats pretty true
Its not a class thats usually very good in m+
Raid is usually where dps warrior is good at
undone flower
i don't feel impacted with RWF picks, because i have a guild
and i'm in a WR 500 guild, i still beat the tuning just by being better than others
undone flower
i insta refuse ppl with the sacrifice mark
upper trellis
i dont join keys with them either
love the lil warning triangle
metronice gonna have some bangers to review this season
upper trellis
yeah even at higher keys 1 wipe =/= dead key
undone flower
yes, we early wiped on a 15 we still continued until it was clearly dead, you can still learn
upper trellis
ppl got no patience
undone flower
it was hoa, there are lot of things to learn on early pulls x)
neon ocean
What talent build is everyone running in +10 keys? Slayer or MT?
pulsar quest
depeneds if you have 4pc
until i got 4pc i was running slayer
then i went MT once i had all tier
junior oyster
Depends on how poorly you do without it, honestly, right?
The wowhead guide puts it at an estimated 20% loss
undone flower
if you are worst than 1 button, you gain dps
undone flower
and 1 button = never worth on any spec
junior oyster
You can wack a dummy for a while with it and without it and see if it does better than you do
slim coral
not really no but if you have to use it it;s fine
neon ocean
Feels like slayer does more ST in M+ which I like
tender forge
are you guys running spear or dragons roar in m+
gritty basin
are you guys running spear or dragons roar in m+
spear does more damage on paper but the inconsistency of how many adds youa ctually hit with it balances it out
i find it as a personal preference thing
wicked flicker
are hunters and rogues just ridiculous this season? sweating my ass off in keys and can barely touch their aoe
covert coyote
Yes and we won’t even come close unless balance
But the next pull after that one we clap them
mystic kayak
How does this overall look on a +11 Floodgate?
Does my split of dps look about right
spare steppe
How does this overall look on a +11 Floodgate?
Cursed stone idol damage looks low, doesn’t it normally do a ton of damage?
But actual rotational breakdown looks expected imo
tender forge
spear does more damage on paper but the inconsistency of how many adds youa ctua...
sweet thanks for the reply
junior gale
I've been playing with the same ppl in 15s it's pretty consistent. I don't usually compare my shit against pugs cuz you know most pugs are bad
mystic kayak
Cursed stone idol damage looks low, doesn’t it normally do a ton of damage?
Hm, I don't think so? I use it while charging so maybe it isn't always hitting all the enemies but
spare steppe
Pretty sure it’s one of the use when grouped up enemies trinket
digital ore
Execute big damage now
No clue when it happened since I didn't read balance logs but it CHONKS
oak peak
With slayer 4-set, do we bloodthirst in 2 target cleave? Assuming we still do in multitarget too?
copper storm
Can someone give me the WA that some wars use to know which spell reflect?
slim coral
With slayer 4-set, do we bloodthirst in 2 target cleave? Assuming we still do in...
No you only bt in 5+
marble pilot
Stats people did math and you need enough targets for the cleaved BT rolls to be a higher chance to proc reap than the tier proc is. At least if I understood it correctly
Or rather higher than the boosted damage RB reaps. Cause the RB reap has a 150% modifier on it as well.
marble pilot
Yeah balance of RB>BT and RB reap> BT reap,
But with enough targets BT reap does happen more often which does = more total damage once you get to that target count
undone flower
Hopefully robot god does the math for us
marble pilot
Though less prio damage than just sticking to RB reap right?
Some situations might be better to just keep doing the RB reaps on the prio targets
undone flower
That’s what I do, I stay on RBs for prio sometimes
marble pilot
I guess it probably isnt a huge prio loss cause of BT cooldown.
And really ill likely camp thane in keys anyway I like 
oak peak
No you only bt in 5+
So 2 target cleave is all RB/SD procs as well?
Good to know, thanks
restive ledge
Do you guys cancelaura bladestorm after 2 seconfds in Single target? or let it rip all the way?
dense elbow
If anyone say that it is correct, and provingly so, to cancel BladeStorm - I will probably blow a fuse
iron portal
^
inner zinc
If anyone say that it is correct, and provingly so, to cancel BladeStorm - I wil...
that moment when spinning isnt winning
mystic kayak
How can I check what rotation raidbots is performing when simming?
Cause I'm not hitting anywhere close to sim numbers and want to check out what rotation their doing to do so much.
olive wraith
How far are you off
Also worth noting the type of sim you’re running. Patch has raid buffs
mystic kayak
I'd have to run more dungeons again to get a general idea but i'm simming the 6 targets + 10 target sims
Let me send them
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rqvimsmtgiEMsYipx7w6vM (6 target, 40 second [average trash pull probably, no lust]
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vmn3RWWg6HzURxXWYRai56 [10 target, 1 minute [big trash pull with lust]
olive wraith
I mean dungeon pulls are gonna be different
dense elbow
How can I check what rotation raidbots is performing when simming?
Easiest way is to do a quicksim, then simply scroll down a bit.
mystic kayak
Okay I lied maybe it isn't that off
Thats 5 target, 41 seconds
on dummys in dornogal
dense elbow
Please hit dummies for longer
and you will get a more less RNG prone result
Do 5 min sim, and hit dummies for 5 min, if you want to "test yourself vs the sim"
jovial dagger
sexy cow
mystic kayak
And that's my sim for it so
I guess that's not too shabby if i'm technically beating the sim
jaunty shore
if you're beating the sim you're definitely fine
winter shoal
Well your dummies are almost certainly going to be in VC range
sullen dove
Yea I mean sim is an average usually of a buncha diff tries especially on thane can pretty easily overproc on a sim with many tbs
winter shoal
So your BT damage will be a lot higher than the sim's
smoky vale
@sullen dove do you need nepo keys
sullen dove
also I think if u quick sim instead of top gear it’ll show you a damage breakdown of all the abilities used
stoic echo
That ain't arms
sullen dove
I’m bout to drive
smoky vale
That ain't arms
junior gale
Hop on the Grind Gio I'm almost 3200
jovial mauve
how big of a jump for m+ dps should we be looking at when we go from 2pc/2pc to 4set?
gusty sleet
-1b dmg
flat river
how big of a jump for m+ dps should we be looking at when we go from 2pc/2pc to ...
Like atleast 20%
vague fern
for m+, is slayer or thane better for having 2p / 2p?
flat river
Slayer
vague fern
i saw a build at some point shared, where do i find it?
smoky vale
Hop on the Grind Gio I'm almost 3200
junior gale
You raiding tonight or free? My shaman friend is healing right now so we're puggin a DPS and tank if your down for some
flat river
where can i find the build so i can import it?
Wowhead
junior gale
Was gonna ask last night but u were in raid
olive wraith
where can i find the build so i can import it?
Has several builds including the 2/2
smoky vale
You raiding tonight or free? My shaman friend is healing right now so we're pugg...
i might be boosting or trying to do hardmode so prob just ask closer to the time you want to do keys
junior gale
Sure
smoky vale
viscid condor
Is this a normal cast breakdown on forgeweaver? Damage seems low
young swan
bladestorm is def low
coarse nest
smoky vale
after lunch
young swan
nope
chilly fractal
liquid or echo
Method - Boss is going to bug out and do nothing in the final phase and they’ll kill it /s
hollow leaf
but usually i get it up
blushge
soft orbit
guys i have read somewhere that jastor ring is not proccing as expected and i should swap it for 701/704 ring
is this true?
young swan
guys i have read somewhere that jastor ring is not proccing as expected and i sh...
yeah
for me its only like a 15k dps drop
warm crag
for me its only like a 15k dps drop
over what
young swan
whispers of karesh
wait what do u mean over what
just swapping jastor for the next best hero track ring
is only -15k
and jastor is buggy and (allegedly) oversimming
smoky vale
i think jastors sims like 5k more than the rings have on
but no way 5k dps is worth 120k hp
hollow leaf
jastor is like 10k ahead of double 704 for me
warm crag
just swapping jastor for the next best hero track ring
ya what is the next best hero track ring
last sim i ran jastor was +60k over the next best thing
chilly fractal
Halls Ring is basically a mirror of Jastor too simple swap for base stats
young swan
ya what is the next best hero track ring
for me its whispers of karesh
i already have halls ring
chilly fractal
I’m doing Gambit and Halls ring personally
Im basically at DR for both Mastery and Haste
chilly fractal
A lot of Crit gems now… just following the robot
hollow leaf
young swan
finger brothers
smoky vale
araz is aids when you have to drop behind portal instead of in front
young swan
okay so this boss dies today right
smoky vale
surely
radiant plank
4way race!
smoky vale
real
oak peak
Wait so is this a good thing for jastor diamond, or a bad thing? How often should it proc? 91% seems like a lot, but 2 procs seems weird
smoky vale
wiat
restive peak
Honestly I thought echo was gonna kill there lol, didn’t realize that was the enrage
smoky vale
they got it to 5%
oak peak
Or am i looking at the wrong thing
marble pilot
Echo is late in the night arnt they?
restive peak
Apparently the 2.48 is the math when you add the phases together and divide
marble pilot
Going to suck if they have to stop doing pulls cause people cant stay awake. And then Liquid takes it
restive peak
Echo usually goes a few more hours, I think they kill soon
marble pilot
Ok not bad then. Can probably do another 6 ish hours if they need it
restive peak
Very consistent and that’s usually the sign a boss is about to die
marble pilot
But itll suck if it isnt in th e next 2-3
restive peak
They need everyone alive and this fight is brutal so
marble pilot
Yeah getting tired means harder to dodge stuff. Longer into the night the more those things happen
radiant plank
Only if there was a spec that lost barely any ST for all its aoe tools and was one of the top dogs for boss dam rn...
marble pilot
I know Liquid debating doing more last night but called it to get rested. See if that pays off. Going to be close
restive peak
Only if there was a spec that lost barely any ST for all its aoe tools and was o...
Bro what a wild take no way jose we’re benching Revvez
I mean method is seeming more consistent than liquid right now, but they did just wake up
sick pagoda
Am I coping when I hope that this is because ppl are playing MT without 4set? Or are we THIS bad 😐
radiant plank
ppl r playing without tier
sick pagoda
Yeah hoping its a lot of 2p MT ppl
and maybe when 4 set kicks in we are not as bad
oak peak
Question regarding jastor diamond, i hear its possibly bugged, is it this buff we are looking at for uptime? 2 procs seems bad, but 91% is also really high…so not sure if this is bugged or not, or if im even looking at the right thing
jovial mauve
just give up on the jastor, its a last season ring
oblique trail
That's working as intended
oak peak
Sims way better than other rings, but yeah thats probably the play just in case
oblique trail
The unintended is if you go for multiple pulls where it doesn't proc whatsoever, or the uptime is extremely little
oak peak
Gotcha. But 2 procs is ok?
oblique trail
In which case you'd re-equip it in hopes of it fixing it, which sometimes it might not immediately fix
Well you don't particularly care about the amount of procs, but the uptime as well
oak peak
Gotcha
hot rampart
Hey all, recently picking up fury and had a question. I typically start with wowhead to understand prio but then I go to warcraftlogs and check timeline casts for top parses in floodgate just to see how people who know what're they're doing are pressing their buttons.
Is that okay to do for learning fury? Any weird nuances I'm missing or complexities that get introduced at higher skill levels
mild ravine
The hardest part for me is not pressing BT when playing slayer
tepid cedar
Only if there was a spec that lost barely any ST for all its aoe tools and was o...
Yea it’s wild
But I mean, blame the game when our CDs literally do no fucking damage
All of our big actual dps cds basically tickle opponents to death 😂
tepid cedar
No burst though which is what these raids need . It is depressing being in the top or near top saving cds for adds and popping everything only to fall back down then have to play catch up again
The life of a wurrrrriahhh
olive wraith
Hey all, recently picking up fury and had a question. I typically start with wow...
Wowhead prio is good
You might get conflicting info with checking key parses cause there’s some people running thane and others using slayer
(Both are good just diff damage profiles)
hollow leaf
Well you don't particularly care about the amount of procs, but the uptime as we...
Idk I'm getting 85-95% uptime in each of our pulls
hot rampart
You might get conflicting info with checking key parses cause there’s some peopl...
oh yeah I try to only look at parses that run the talent set up I am. Also, I was watching Noxiv for a bit and didn't see him ever pressing Execute. Is that pretty standard?
olive wraith
oh yeah I try to only look at parses that run the talent set up I am. Also, I wa...
If he’s playing thane then yes that’s standard
Execute is one of the lowest prio buttons for thane
hollow leaf
been farming streets all day for those fricking boots
olive wraith
been farming streets all day for those fricking boots
Why farm boots when you loot Dh boots next week 
quiet breach
wait NVM I had hero track jastor
hollow leaf
I just use double 704 for the extra stam
hollow leaf
Why farm boots when you loot Dh boots next week <:copium:839076283467431956>
so real bestie
(I went into normal as a hail mary and it didn't drop)
hollow leaf
I'm literally the only one out of all of our raiders who don't have the boots
just didn't drop in my split every single time wcyd
echo rapids
How many hours a week do you raid?
hollow leaf
too many for prog to be this slow
junior gale
No burst though which is what these raids need . It is depressing being in the ...
We paid for our sins in season 1
hollow leaf
still paying for our sins for hc ansurek
frosty scroll
is it true that the jastor diamond is bugged atm 🫠
olive wraith
Yes
echo rapids
Bugged how?
hollow leaf
I use a WA to tell me when to re-equip it
every time I do that it's always at 85-95% uptime
though some have said that's inconsistent
spare steppe
I use a WA to tell me when to re-equip it
It fixes itself randomly though without unequipping though
soft orbit
I use a WA to tell me when to re-equip it
could you share that WA if possible?
olive wraith
I just gonna replace with a hero ring
spare steppe
Same, just need one to exist
sour tundra
How am I beating a frost DK and boomie on overall as fury. Too many FOTM rerollers...
smoky vale
been farming streets all day for those fricking boots
im stuck in priory bro
spare steppe
Or they don’t have gear
smoky vale
help
olive wraith
Boomie isn’t that good afaik
spare flame
man slayer single/priority damage feels so good sheesh
olive wraith
Key also matters
spare flame
yall slayer enjoyers, are you using the odyn build or no-odyn build? man odyn giving enrage and meat cleave feels so good
olive wraith
I think in general higher key slayer doesn’t do of
olive wraith
They just lean into prio damage
hollow leaf
sorry wrong reply
hollow leaf
https://wago.io/FsPzBCPYM
@soft orbit
olive wraith
All g
hollow leaf
chat moved so cursor went on you xd
spare flame
I think in general higher key slayer doesn’t do of
i see
lyric eagle
How important is waiting for 115 rate to rampage in raid? Seeing vids where they basically just ignore that and send it whenever available.
olive wraith
It’s ideal but probably not huge
Also might be an issue of running out of rb charges or bt on cooldown
south kayak
lyric eagle
I watched for that, there were charges. Probably just a small optimization that isn’t important enough given the other stuff to track.
hollow leaf
Idk they also wanted to move away from damage through maintenance
brittle crow
what diff does it even make other than u get buffed by mage
hollow leaf
but they're doubling down on it with devourer
marble pilot
The couple abilites they showed make me think Shadow priest with evoker range. Something about keeping meta going as long as you kinda reminds me of the shadow thing. Do they even have that still I havnt cared about priests in forever
south kayak
Yeah, Void form
junior gale
Can't wait for new DH spec to require constant reworks like shadow
marble pilot
Busted on fights they can keep the form up forever. Trash when they cant
junior gale
Also love the blizzard class design team... They moved alway from that type of gameplay multiple times just to bring it back with this new spec.
south kayak
Bro there
has to be more than one type of gameplay
if u don't like that
don't play it lol
it's that simple
junior gale
Shadow used to be all about keeping void from as long as possible. Same with breath
marble pilot
I dont hate the idea. Sindrigosa was similar. I think its more hard for them to balance so they keep getting rid of it and bringing it back
south kayak
I doubt it's going to be at the extent Legion Shadow was
where u can't do damage if u haven't been in voidform for ages
they've moved away from that
it's different now
marble pilot
It could be closer to dragonrage for evokers. Where there is a max duration that you basically always hit
junior gale
If it's capped to a certain point it's fine
south kayak
yeah, even if it isn't on beta or alpha
something is gonna happen to cap it somehow
and it might not be that impactful
some cds aren't
junior gale
Yeah mechanics can just make that type of gameplay feel like shit same with low keys
That's why everything is capped to a certain duration
Of some sort
junior gale
not worried was just more pointing out that history shows that type of gameplay usually doesn't work out well
marble pilot
See how it is in the prepatch. Hoping they change aug also. I was thinking they were going to add more supports but hopefully they decide it was a bad idea and just make it a full dps.
junior gale
Idc if the new spec is good or bad
young swan
what diff does it even make other than u get buffed by mage
full wizard comp
spare flame
is slayer 4p bugged or am i biased? i just spent like 5 minutes attacking a dummy and i swear to god it didnt feel like RB had 20% to proc reap the storm (the dummy had 10 stacks at all times)
felt like 5% or something lol
young swan
20% flat chance with no blp
its possible
but very unlikely
its also possible its just bugged
if u really wanna test if its bugged, sit there for like 20 minutes or something
spare flame
i mean BT also is 20% and it feels like it procs 80% of the time in aoe
olive wraith
So you can count your procs easier
olive wraith
i mean BT also is 20% and it feels like it procs 80% of the time in aoe
20% per target for bt
young swan
yeah because its per target
spare flame
right
young swan
RB isnt
marble pilot
So on 5 rb has 1 20% and BT has 5 20% chances
spare flame
cause its still better to press rb on 5
doesnt faq say to press BT on 5+?
young swan
doesnt faq say to press BT on 5+?
should be 6+
marble pilot
Why does it go up on 6 then? Is it just cause thats the breakpoint between the boosted reap and nonboosted reap but with higher chance
olive wraith
doesnt faq say to press BT on 5+?
6+ I’m pretty sure
olive wraith
Why does it go up on 6 then? Is it just cause thats the breakpoint between the b...
Yes
young swan
Why does it go up on 6 then? Is it just cause thats the breakpoint between the b...
yeah prob
olive wraith
But also
Some people don’t bother pushing bt even in uncapped pulls
Just for extra prio
So it’s users choice
marble pilot
Feel like BT cooldown would make it so you dont really lose much prio
olive wraith
That’s still a gcd you’re pressing a bad button over a good one
marble pilot
Yeah and also if you are wanting to max aoe over prio you would just go thane anyway
olive wraith
Like try simming bt on cd in single target
Ya that’s the idea behind it afaik
Although I do catch myself just slamming bt
Monkey brain likes bigger overalls
marble pilot
Hitting BT cause muscle memory is better than hitting nothing
undone flower
yes hitting the wrong button is always better than not hitting anything
but your dps can suffer from 1000 cuts from it
marble pilot
Liquid pulls ahead on that last pull. By like .3%
undone flower
the last overlap is brutal
marble pilot
I still have to convince people that uptime is the biggest part of your dps. Crazy looking at logs and seeing someone at like 80% uptime and they are like my rotation is perfect I dont know what to do
undone flower
yes uptime is the number 1 thing ppl usually need to work on, after getting the basics ofc
because it is hard to keep pushing dps buttons while you need to do non-dps stuff
narrow geode
Yall press Execute with 130 Rage with Slayer?
earnest canyon
I still have to convince people that uptime is the biggest part of your dps. Cra...
If I had to do all the mechanics in this boss fight my only uptime would be auto attacks
unborn delta
yes uptime is the number 1 thing ppl usually need to work on, after getting the ...
whenever i try to minmax this i fuck up, like circles on plexus snetinel leaping out with
marble pilot
because it is hard to keep pushing dps buttons while you need to do non-dps stuf...
Yeah some raiders have the opposite problem as well. So focused on uptime and dps that they dont do mechanics and never kill the boss.
unborn delta
at the last second
earnest canyon
It amazes me that casters can cast anything
unborn delta
pretty much all casters can move while doing dmg now
earnest canyon
warlocks? I thought they were so tanky cos they still move like they are wearing a diaper full of shit
marble pilot
Yeah I cant really play a caster anymore. I struggle to still my feet.
olive wraith
Yall press Execute with 130 Rage with Slayer?
If I’m enraged and conditionals are met yes
undone flower
pretty much all casters can move while doing dmg now
you can watch sprocket stats and compare with another fight, you will see which casters HATE moving
sprocket is heavy anti-caster fight
hollow leaf
GET IT
flat river
wiped at 3.31%
marble pilot
Still so much damage to pull out
remote bobcat
Yall press Execute with 130 Rage with Slayer?
this situation does occur yea
full portal
how do you use the cursed stone idol in dungeons? Like in what order do you use the trinket and your cds?
winter shoal
trinket first then cds
full portal
Do you use it after you arrive from charge or while charging? Is it worth losing a gcd to hit the damage from the trinket?
winter shoal
Best is to use it while charging but tbh it probably doesn't really matter
chilly fractal
Got the haste vers neck from my deathless HM run
Don’t think I can use it for a couple weeks without a lot of changes
There are certainly worse pieces to get
olive wraith
Best is to use it while charging but tbh it probably doesn't really matter
I have aggro ptsd
Does it pull from tank when you do
winter shoal
idk I don't have it
olive wraith
Rip
hot rampart
Sorry for such a general question, but what reasoning would you guys give as to why a group should bring a fury war?
winter shoal
Well one obvious answer is if the warrior is a much better (or better geared) player
brittle crow
warrior players are generally smarter
winter shoal
If you need battle shout and aren't playing pwar then fury is an obvious choice
If you need prio damage and already have significant uncapped aoe damage
marble pilot
Our 1 braincell is very well trained. We kick we
earnest canyon
warrior players are generally smarter
brittle crow
https://tenor.com/view/confused-no-nope-gif-5413974953753901704
pug paladins/mages are DUMB
thats just the rules
olive wraith
Pug
Logic and reasoning doesn’t apply with this word
But honestly i anecdotally see groups forming phys comps
Which is nice
junior gale
warrior players are generally smarter
Sorry as a warrior we are the 2nd dumbest class next to hunters being number one
No such thing as a smart hunter
winter shoal
amen
junior oyster
I've met way more dumb paladins than I have dumb warriors >.>
hot rampart
Logic and reasoning doesn’t apply with this word
Apologies. I guess I just meant in a general setting. For instance do they bring good prio, CC, is execute influential, etc.
I didn't form the question well but I guess I just wanted to know what they excel at specifically compared to others
The answers I got were helpful though
winter shoal
Fury's main strength is prio dam
And boss dam
Especially if they're playing slayer, fury should never lose on boss dam in keys
olive wraith
Super tanky too if you’re worried about healer being overwhelmed
winter shoal
True, not quite dk levels of immortal but pretty close
olive wraith
Also might be worth mentioning it’s pretty easy playing fury. So chances are the person will do decent damage
Fotm you have a higher risk getting people who are bad at the class imo
hot rampart
Yeah I've been prot war as my alt for a while now and decided I want to have a dps melee spec. Went in first key and felt like I did well, spec seems intuitive
Nice to know rotation doesn't change much for ST vs AOE
olive wraith
That’s one of the great perks imo
And fwiw. Both hero trees feel super fun this tier for fury
iron holly
is cursed stone idol any good for us?
olive wraith
Aoe yes
spare flame
is cursed stone idol any good for us?
a trinket can be giga ultra bis, if it's channeled or has a cast i dont fuck with it
gray wing
Between nelf or maghar... What do you think I should choose? haha
olive wraith
a trinket can be giga ultra bis, if it's channeled or has a cast i dont fuck wit...
I fuck with puzzy box
olive wraith
Between nelf or maghar... What do you think I should choose? haha
What does your heart say
hot rampart
People cast it mid charge
damn you can do that? that's pretty awesome
kinda negates the downside of a casted trinket
gray wing
What does your heart say
Garrosh, but i love the nelf animations
olive wraith
damn you can do that? that's pretty awesome
Ya. I don’t have it so don’t know how fluid it feels though
hot rampart
damn, Critcake making Arms look good right now. nearing the end of a 16 Ara Kara
spare flame
damn, Critcake making Arms look good right now. nearing the end of a 16 Ara Kara
holy shite
hot rampart
actually they were on last pack so that's end overall
olive wraith
Ya arms is actually decent in overalls
hot rampart
I played arms eons ago but I just remember I hated pressing Cleave
undone flower
Tbf when I tried arms again last month it’s not cleave my issue, it is clunkiness feeling
olive wraith
If you think last tier was clunky I don’t think you’ll like this tier
undone flower
Colat stacks for big Cleave is 100% fun
spare flame
i think my biggest problem with arms is that rage generation feels off
as fury rage feels smooth and predictable
compact knot
damn, Critcake making Arms look good right now. nearing the end of a 16 Ara Kara
maybe cause it is actually good
undone flower
Yes I feel it is a rage issue for arms
compact knot
arms has good number in m+
olive wraith
What? Rage just doesn’t even matter last I played
hot rampart
yeah he just basically said arms is for big aoe, slayer fury for single target, thane fury for mix of both
olive wraith
Like you don’t even need to really look at it
undone flower
Rage doesn’t matter on all 3 warrior specs, funny right 
hot rampart
so tldr I'd interpret that as thane fury bis for pushing keys
olive wraith
so tldr I'd interpret that as thane fury bis for pushing keys
Not exactly
Gonna depend what role you need to fill
hot rampart
fair
meaning, if group already has high prio you'd want to just go giga arms aoe? vs grouping with no prio you'd want fury?
undone flower
What? Rage just doesn’t even matter last I played
Thats the rage issue yes
winter shoal
meaning, if group already has high prio you'd want to just go giga arms aoe? vs ...
I mean you could make that argument yeah, it'll probably come down to player skill and comfort on either spec though
hollow leaf
warrior players are generally smarter
imagine everyone else trying to juggle millions of braincells, meanwhile we master using only one. Remember the saying, "A jack of all trades is a master of none, but oftentimes better than a master of one."
hot rampart
yeah okay. I guess I'm just trying to decide what I should start with learning. this will be my "I'm bored healing, I want to just go smash buttons and kill shit in keys" spec
winter shoal
Fury is a lot more straightforward than colossus arms
Either slayer or thane fury
Press buttons do dam amen
hot rampart
yeah I've only done one key of thane fury and I really enjyoed it
hollow leaf
tb goes brr
undone flower
Both goes brrrrr, still funny I gap ppl 1.4m dps on dungeon bosses in ara kara
I was 40% of the boss damage on the first
olive wraith
Big momma is my fave boss this season
hybrid yew
I have trouble competing with other classes in Mythic+, and i wanna blame it on our 5-target cap with the thunderclap cleave buffs
but single target also drops a bit with mountain thane
winter shoal
I don't have much issue beating or at least tying pug dps, but pugs are usually not very good
I get clowned on by my friends who play sin rogue and havoc and are very skilled players, but they also know what they're doing and understand damage profiles
cobalt relic
do we cast rampage the instance it comes up on thane btw
or do we fill bar first
when enraged
winter shoal
BT and (rampage at over 100 rage) are effectively interchangeable as thane
You still want to maintain ww stacks and everything as higher prio though
cobalt relic
does it have to be over 100 rage
hollow leaf
Araz feels so bad man
winter shoal
Yes
cobalt relic
but BT>rampage right due to procs
winter shoal
I'm not sure what you mean
olive wraith
but BT>rampage right due to procs
Think the only time that isn’t the case is when you have 2 tb charges
winter shoal
BT and (rampage over 100 rage) are effectively interchangeable as I said
if you're below 100 rage, you wouldn't rampage
winter shoal
Well you would rampage if you needed to refresh enrage ofc
cobalt relic
or do we rampage then tb
winter shoal
Yes TB is prio if you don't need to refresh enrage
cobalt relic
alrighty tyvm
rustic mist
someone has that aura
winter shoal
someone has that aura
rustic mist
Ty
heavy folio
so it was probably asked 1000 times but jastor is a sim trap coz it's bugged right?
olive wraith
so it was probably asked 1000 times but jastor is a sim trap coz it's bugged rig...
I mean kinda not really but sorta
It could bug in your favor
junior gale
so it was probably asked 1000 times but jastor is a sim trap coz it's bugged rig...
If you're that worried about it just replace it with a hero track ring it not a big deal
edgy widget
so it was probably asked 1000 times but jastor is a sim trap coz it's bugged rig...
no, hasn't bugged for me once
hollow leaf
it's bugged for me but nothing that re-equipping it hasn't fixed
olive wraith
it's bugged for me but nothing that re-equipping it hasn't fixed
Is it perma 0% uptime though
heavy folio
so if I see it procs means im good?
olive wraith
Ya
hollow leaf
Is it perma 0% uptime though
no idea after every pull I've checked it's been between 85-95%
olive wraith
Why do you wanna fix that lol
marble pilot
Name still on top
wet locust
cant tell if I'm potato gear and/or brain or fdks just hit numbers
both could be true I guess
plush zephyr
nah fdks have been smashing numbers after the fotms either got used to it or left
earnest canyon
having to look up what specs/classes are target capped is..fun
If you are doing that you should make a spreadsheet/list cos it gets talked about a lot
plush zephyr
@wet locust you can't? I mean not really unless you dive into each specs abilities and how they stretch certain caps for certain spells
But, have fun lol
storm sorrel
Wish they just soft capped rampage, would solve a lot of problems
wet locust
sort of forgot caps existed as I ..was a chicken for a long while so
to go to the other end is something
plush zephyr
They are an overrated talking point tbh
When Fury gets tuned appropriately, target cap doesn't get talked about. If Fury is shit, it's a talking point people go to because... idk.
wet locust
it's one of the smaller caps no?
atleast in my mind it seems more fury specific than just arms/fury generalised
idk
storm sorrel
Well arms has a soft capped spender, if they gave fury a soft cap on rampage it would be easy to tune by adjusting the DR and make us able to keep up in big pulls
plush zephyr
sure but theres spells and abilities that extend our caps
same with hunter being capped at like 8 or something but their cleave seems uncapped
wet locust
same with hunter being capped at like 8 or something but their cleave seems unca...
watching explo shot burst 
earnest canyon
same with hunter being capped at like 8 or something but their cleave seems unca...
what cleave?
storm sorrel
Make it a talent choice node then, extra damage on the 4 targets or soft cap rampage
plush zephyr
what cleave?
multishot with beastcleave and dotting
perf example of something target capped at 5 being extended to more
@wet locust dont go down the target cap rabbit hole - not worth
lol
olive wraith
Wish they just soft capped rampage, would solve a lot of problems
Sounds like you want ret
dense elbow
thought I was pumping... then I saw Aug (6 priory farming for ring)
🫂 Dont worry bud', you are the pumper who drive our love filled hearts
earnest canyon
perf example of something target capped at 5 being extended to more
what do u mean target capped at 5? and beast cleave is an aoe
its sqrt uncapped
plush zephyr
dog I'm not going over hunter stuff in fury
earnest canyon
and thats fine, but you cant just say stuff as an example when its wrong lmao
plush zephyr
what do u mean target capped at 5? and beast cleave is an aoe
multi shot - triggers beast cleave
plush zephyr
one sec lol
dense elbow
Trickshots is capped, yep
snow frigate
If i have 697 ilvl and in M+ my DMG with buffs around 8-9 mil/ without buffs 4-6 mill. Its okay or I'am doing smth wrong?
earnest canyon
multishot does f/all damage, its just to enable aoe
storm sorrel
Sounds like you want ret
No it’s warrior of old with new design. Played warrior for 20 years and we’ve always had soft capped damage in the form of either spenders or small cds until the last few years where we’ve been locked into small groups
olive wraith
No it’s warrior of old with new design. Played warrior for 20 years and we’ve al...
Having an aoe spender sounds like current ret
dense elbow
If i have 697 ilvl and in M+ my DMG with buffs around 8-9 mil/ without buffs 4-6...
First you got to calculate the differential normativ of the objectflux. Go into details, change the carbondater to 3.2. That should give you the same info you gave me with that.
olive wraith
gilded pawn
its sqrt uncapped
Tbf square root cap is so dog ass
wet locust
atleast thane is ..cool, wish arms had it
gilded pawn
It’s like 3-4 targets to add 1 extra “real” target
olive wraith
atleast thane is ..cool, wish arms had it <:okayge:917646812519739433>
Demolish is cool too
snow frigate
Oh How should i give more info?
wet locust
mhm of the two think thane is better, even if I still prefer arms as a spec idk
earnest canyon
Tbf square root cap is so dog ass
every class has that on their main AoE no? "Damage reduced beyond 8 targets...." is sqrt...its not a cap, but with 20 mobs you are hitting them all but for a lot less than 8
wet locust
slayer is zz for sure
olive wraith
Idk slayer is fun this tier for me
dense elbow
Slayer always been fun for me
olive wraith
If i have 697 ilvl and in M+ my DMG with buffs around 8-9 mil/ without buffs 4-6...
There’s way too many variables to give you a good answer
dense elbow
Oh How should i give more info?
Best is to take logs into #1347646810457636974
snow frigate
I only started playing on last season so dont know anything
dense elbow
They got a whole guide on how to get that done, in there Dava.
snow frigate
Thx i will see
gilded pawn
every class has that on their main AoE no? "Damage reduced beyond 8 targets...."...
Yeah the main benefit is tagging all the mobs with relevant debuffs
But square root above 8 at 20 is like hitting 10-11
But I’m not near a calculator rn
Wowhead
hybrid yew
Generic question - how do I look up my Parse on warcraftlogs after a fight has already been uploaded? I see how much damage ive done and my active % and whatnot for the fight, but not sure how to look up parse
winter shoal
search your character, you should see something like this - your "best %" is generally what people refer to as your "parse"
gilded pawn
Should be under your own logs once it’s processed
olive wraith
Damage done tab will show the parse of everyone in the log
winter shoal
You can also go to the rankings tab on an individual log
olive wraith
And then ya
olive wraith
rotund ginkgo
search your character, you should see something like this - your "best %" is gen...
bro just wanetd to flex
dense elbow
bad data, no 5t hardcap. How am I to compare my numbers with others like that?
winter shoal
bro just wanetd to flex
there's a reason I didn't screenshot my mythic logs
hybrid yew
aha, rankings tab shows, thanks
great, i'm in the low/mid blue 🙃 which i guess is as average as average gets
rotund ginkgo
eh
depends
blue is average per se
but its not inherently too hard to get purple on heroics
winter shoal
Just having good gear (especially early on) makes getting good logs a lot easier
rotund ginkgo
Just having good gear (especially early on) makes getting good logs a lot easier
yeah
dense elbow
Boosted
rotund ginkgo
couldnt be me
winter shoal
Good gear + raiding on tuesday is insanely free logs week 2
Your logs compared to 7 days of people 10 ilvl lower without tier HOLY
olive wraith
Plus kill times matter a lot
rotund ginkgo
havent even thought about it that tuesday raiders are cucking wednesday (eu chads) raiders
@winter shoal week 1 my sentinel was green, with 2p and shit trinkets, week 2 with "better" trinkets and 4p i got a 95
and it got ruined into a 94
winter shoal
<@138757776707944448> week 1 my sentinel was green, with 2p and shit trinkets, w...
we don't need to talk about mythic sentinel parses
rotund ginkgo
because of WEDNESDAY RAIDERS (myself)
winter shoal
Ya
rotund ginkgo
HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLY
bro hit a 5
big naazdinhri tho
rotund ginkgo
bruh ur full 99s ur safe dw
hybrid yew
Item level like 689 doing Normal, really crappy trinkets and a blue Necklace still, under "Player Rankings"
Im doin my best 😭
hybrid yew
i have the damn football trinket still, i hate it
hybrid yew
but also ur just behind atp
atp?
rotund ginkgo
at this point
winter shoal
adenosine triphosphate
hybrid yew
👍
olive wraith
Where can I get me some of that
olive wraith
What if I want more
winter shoal
Eat food
plush zephyr
search your character, you should see something like this - your "best %" is gen...
got damn Big B
sand hatch
Probably been asked a thousand times, but if I read the rotation right, I should be doing as many RB as possible before rampage? Just got 4pc last night
winter shoal
Probably been asked a thousand times, but if I read the rotation right, I should...
Only after bladestorm and only while still enraged, and it's still lower prio than exe conditionals
winter shoal
whats prio in slayer
Select the slayer talents here https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps#rotation-3
sand hatch
Only after bladestorm and only while still enraged, and it's still lower prio th...
Thx!
hollow leaf
has anyone else had pulls on 3rd boss halls where the lanterns just don't spawn
wiped to the ghost running around for like half a minute with no lanterns in the arena
winter shoal
Think that happens if you're late to dunk one of the earlier adds
echo rapids
search your character, you should see something like this - your "best %" is gen...
How much impact does kill time have on parse? Your guilds kills are all like 30-50 seconds faster than mine
Like I was 4.2m on Fractilus but our kill was like 4:30
warm crag
pretty big impact ye
the shorter the kill the more time you spend in lust is p much the stupidest way to explain it
echo rapids
I figured but just not sure how much impact
Like my 4.2m 83% or whatever isnt going to be a 99
but i wonder how much closer
echo rapids
there's a reason I didn't screenshot my mythic logs <:keks:936231610850897992>
I checked and I see why 😂
7m on Soulbinder is niiiice though
winter shoal
How much impact does kill time have on parse? Your guilds kills are all like 30...
In general faster kill time is better, but cd timing also matters a lot. It's basically about the proportion of the fight that you spend in lust/cds
echo rapids
You better head back into normal though, theres work to do there
warm crag
normal trinket run could be worth
winter shoal
I don't need any so I'd probably just come on an alt
olive wraith
Or dh boots
warm crag
loomithar into fract idk if those lockouts can exist
echo rapids
Wow that screams trinket is nutty
I was not familiar with its game
300k dps on a single target fight 😮
fickle cedar
crazy 0.3 pull 
echo rapids
I must be undercasting Rampage, you have 2 more casts in 35 less seconds
winter shoal
I must be undercasting Rampage, you have 2 more casts in 35 less seconds
If you're talking to me, I kind of ignore the 115 rage thing in practice
echo rapids
If you're talking to me, I kind of ignore the 115 rage thing in practice
I am yeah
ahh
winter shoal
Rage generation is so fast during reck/lust that in practical terms I think it's better to just send ramp
I also just fuck up spell queueing with high haste sometimes
warm crag
Rage generation is so fast during reck/lust that in practical terms I think it's...
this is why you root for liquid
undone flower
I root for limit
winter shoal
this is why you root for liquid
no dps warriors to cheer for on either side 
Cheering for Honestly
My goat Eroka representing
warm crag
which guild brought their dps warrior to dimensius prog for a bit at least
your argument and your credibility crumble
echo rapids
Rage generation is so fast during reck/lust that in practical terms I think it's...
I can see that, yeah im overcapping on rage more than I'd like
winter shoal
your argument and your credibility crumble
I never had any credibility to begin with
compact knot
no dps warriors to cheer for on either side <a:chatting:1266019851743399996>
walli
echo rapids
wow analyzer is borked yeah?
compact knot
hes a dk but
winter shoal
wow analyzer is borked yeah?
define borked
warm crag
I never had any credibility to begin with
yet you claim wow analyzing dot com is credible
echo rapids
not updated
winter shoal
Perhaps try using it and check if it tells you what the supported patch version is
Spoiler alert: it's 11.2
winter shoal
yet you claim wow analyzing dot com is credible
I fixed the arms SD bug so I'm morally absolved of any future inaccuracies
echo rapids
I mean it says I had thunderour roar on cooldown too long but its soooo far down the APL
echo rapids
its analyzing a fractilus log
echo rapids
Sorry i just wanst sure what was accurate
winter shoal
I'm not going to add in a manual check for targets hit by roar to see if it should be added to the cooldown efficiency calculation
undone flower
That it tells you don’t press roar on cd
echo rapids
I wasnt sure if the "does not have a dedicated suppoort" meant it wasnt fully updated
undone flower
And it’s you to know the context
winter shoal
I wasnt sure if the "does not have a dedicated suppoort" meant it wasnt fully up...
That just means I didn't mark myself as an official maintainer so that I wouldn't feel obligated to continue doing so in perpetuity
echo rapids
That just means I didn't mark myself as an official maintainer so that I wouldn'...
Ah gotcha
Says i had 7 premature executres but im using the conditional WA, hmm
undone flower
Like that, you need to know you can gain dps if you press SD on CD for BS cdr
winter shoal
For context though, wowa looks at logs only, and log events are very scuffed. Targets affected by an ability are only logged with damage events, but cast metrics are associated with cast events. So I'd need to add a link between the cast event and the damage event, check all instances of the damage events, find their associated cast events, either add or remove those from the efficiency calculation, and then add a billion more checks for edge cases like adds dying while affected by the roar dot or using roar before an add spawn
undone flower
So context when you read these
elder granite
ive gotta be playing slayer completely wrong cause i finish higher overall in thane with 4 pc
2 pc*
elder granite
meant 2 pc
winter shoal
are you playing the slayer 2p2p build here? #1273899855852339200 message
winter shoal
most played slayer with just 2p
spongus what do I get for dinner
olive wraith
Atp
warm crag
what are the options
winter shoal
Uhh lots of things
I live in the united states so we have every cuisine under the sun except our own
olive wraith
Hawaiian food
warm crag
i had greek today so im gonna recommend that
winter shoal
Hmm interesting suggestion
olive wraith
Okay we used to have a hawaiian place near me but they closed
No shit? Actual Hawaiian food or “Hawaiian bbq”
winter shoal
Like poke type shit
elder granite
at like 683 with 2 pc whats like the overall i should be around
olive wraith
What key? Comp? Average pull size?
winter shoal
Gonna be a lot higher in priory than in streets
marble pilot
If you ever cant decide the answer is indian or thai.
winter shoal
Hmm also both solid options
olive wraith
Like poke type shit
Rip I was thinking like Hawaiian pulled pork or beef wrapped in taro leaves
young swan
liquid experiencing very strong voodoo
analog marlin
hey guys us Hekili good?
olive wraith
Ya it’s good for learning
olive nest
guys what stat does sim uses for this trinket
You choose the stat in the options at the bottom
odd vapor
How are we feeling with 4 set slayer
Or just thane
Slayer feels good vs bosses honestly
olive wraith
Good for both
echo rapids
Above average ST and a decent profile for most of the raid fights
odd vapor
Above average ST and a decent profile for most of the raid fights
Ye feels good in raid
Has anyone done megadungeon?
echo rapids
Has anyone done megadungeon?
Yeah but a disconnect killed the run
I hate how they have it set, where it’s not actually that hard but just zero forgiveness
olive nest
Are you talking about hard mode?
odd vapor
Does it give tier at least? I mean if its in the loot pool
odd vapor
Are you talking about hard mode?
Yep
olive nest
Yea but you can upgrade for free if you just get a piece from a 10
sullen dove
liquid experiencing very strong voodoo
Cluegi
young swan
very unlucky
olive wraith
Yea but you can upgrade for free if you just get a piece from a 10
A bit more rng to get it that way
olive nest
The whole game is rng brother
olive wraith
Right but saying just get bigger ilvl is a bit
bitter palm
well for the hero track it's not worth doing imo
olive nest
I mean what else are you gonna do
bitter palm
hm only worth doing if u can actually do it
echo rapids
Such. Tight race
olive nest
You’re trolling if you spend runed crests on 1/6 hero pieces
olive wraith
Ok boys let’s see if fury can manage some buffs
undone flower
what a race
restive peak
That pull was insane
feral ivy
shit loot for first boss kill lol (mythic dimensius)
sterile dagger
fiery hare
Maybe fury gets buffs now ,not taken for dimensius,outrage!
winter shoal
Not very good loot I fear
olive wraith
Rip
dapper goblet
xeos voodoo wore off
soft merlin
Nerf shammys and and rogue and lets buff warrior now thanks
winter shoal
Rogue doesn't need a nerf lmao
dapper goblet
damage amps and minute 30 timers just carry rogue
silent gazelle
Warrior buffs confirmed
dapper goblet
meanwhile warrior flatline damage for the 5th year in a row
xan is the devs little piggy
hardy cargo
🐷
echo rapids
4 melee dps smh
And they would probably have cut the WW or havoc if they could im guessing
hardy vault
Taza HM exploit is not bannable ? Some friends does the street exploit
dense elbow
Exploit early, exploit often.
Dont forget to report the bug/exploit so it can be fixed
summer quail
Taza HM exploit is not bannable ? Some friends does the street exploit
what even is the taza hm exploit?
dense elbow
Maybe it is one of those faction change to get a fresh reset, over and over
hardy vault
i don't know if i can tell that here, but it's know from a lot of people
summer quail
idk if you can either, seen alot of people talk about taz hm exploit but never actually seen anyone say what it is
dense elbow
Everyone talk about it, in hope that they will stumble on some one that knows it and will say it
undone flower
What is the exploit ?
stable frost
the malding going on in the wowhead comments rn is just chefs kiss
undone flower
Yeah my French guild is malding too, they don’t know I’m not rooting for Echo
dense elbow
They should've brought an arms warrior for exe dam
earnest canyon
it was unfair because Blizzard made the boss immune at sub 1% twice for Echo
undone flower
The most outrageous thing I’ve read so far is 12 h day lead
echo rapids
Nice to see an actual down to the wire race
flat river
The most outrageous thing I’ve read so far is 12 h day lead
They should really make the raid release at the same time
echo rapids
As someone who played a ton of ele shaman last season it’s wild to see 3 on a world first last boss kill
desert zodiac
If echo lost at o.x%, then we can safely say the day lead decided the race, no?
Wasn't echo routinely working off of the information liquid gathered?
undone flower
They should really make the raid release at the same time
I know, but liquid doesn’t have 8 or 12 h lead, my guild are crazy on it
echo rapids
Like it’s just a worse mage normally
The tuning gods were kind, the nerf is gonna be nasty
undone flower
And a reset at midnight EU London time / 3 pm NA tuesday, wouldn’t change much
Since regular humans still raid at regular human hours
dense elbow
So, for someone that didn't watch the raid at all...
Fury warrior brought or?
undone flower
Yes loomithar and fractilus
undone flower
And early dimensius prog
earnest canyon
And a reset at midnight EU London time / 3 pm NA tuesday, wouldn’t change much
it would make a huge difference lol, but only to these RWF guilds that already do insane shit like gear 12 chars.
undone flower
it would make a huge difference lol, but only to these RWF guilds that already d...
Yes the difference would just affect RWF guilds, who wants global release
odd vapor
No tier hut you get a lot of hero pieces
I thought they dropped myth items,
earnest canyon
Yes the difference would just affect RWF guilds, who wants global release
Oh, then yeah I agree with you....I prefer the reset being normal as that is what makes sense for 99.9% of players
dense elbow
Hardmode, deathless, drop 1 mythic track item for everyone, after the run is completed
buoyant salmon
USA USA USA USA
undone flower
I thought they dropped myth items,
Only if you finish the mega dungeon deathless
undone flower
Oh, then yeah I agree with you....I prefer the reset being normal as that is wha...
Basically whatever the reset hour is, 99% of people will raid at 8 pm- 11pm / whatever you guys do, RWF will just change sleep schedule on it
earnest canyon
USA USA USA USA
undone flower
Im silently drinking crocodiles tears of my fellow European comrades
elder epoch
did you guys all replace jastor already with 704 rings or? i heard its bugged or some shit but sims still shows it to be better
undone flower
I changed it with a 704, it was still simming ahead, but not enough for me to care