fury

[chilly fractal]

so idk where you were lookin

[olive wraith]

Idk man. Doesn’t feel diff to me

[uneven path]

What is our aoe "prio" as slayer in M+ ?

Still BT ?

[olive wraith]

Check wowhead

It’s all there

[jade cipher]

yes its bloodthirst

[uneven path]

thx

[jade cipher]

because raging blow procs on cast whilst bloodthirst procs reap on targets hit

[olive wraith]

Depends

[jade cipher]

i myself on big packs use BT and small packs raging blow

[olive wraith]

It’s not that cut and dry

[undone flower]

That’s the spirit

Smaller being under 6

[restive peak]

No it’s not BT lol

It can be BT on 6+, personally if you’re going to worry about overall just go thane

[undone flower]

Yeah the prio is just having a main target as slayer

[restive peak]

The point of the slayer M+ build is to do heavy prio and boss damage, and high damage to the 5 directly in the pack

If you’re thane you BT on CD

[olive wraith]

Plus if you just highest bt prio its wrong

I think exe conditions are still higher

I’d have to check again

[uneven path]

Yeh they are

[olive wraith]

This is why we go look at the prio and then ask questions

[jade cipher]

its all very close in the end, i change from slayer to thane only based on dungeons

[restive peak]

I focus purely on RB, exec and ramp

[jade cipher]

i like slayer in street and dawnbreaker

[restive peak]

I BT as filler only every single dungeon

[jade cipher]

current slayer is very good in dawbreaker because of big targets and last boss not dropping in hp for vicious contempt of thane

[olive wraith]

I mean thane still has relatively good st even on targets above 35%

[sour wing]

gents what should i pick? i already have 2 set on hero track already.

[jade cipher]

hc antenna is very good all around item,

[olive wraith]

Oooh boots is pretty big

That’s Dh boots right

[jade cipher]

it is

[sour wing]

yeah

also got myth track shoulds as well

both the boots and trink will save me from rolling against others in the raid

[olive wraith]

I think boots>antenna

Cause you can farm hero trinks in keys

[sour wing]

sims say trink and cata my hero track chest for 3 piece

[vagrant peak]

am i tripping or are the simms saying all the heavy versa rings/neck is the bis

sim wise

[chilly fractal]

Will you raid this week? Can always wait to see what you get

[olive wraith]

Do you have access to 2nd cata from 2k io

[chilly fractal]

Vers and Haste go hard

[olive wraith]

Sims told me haste/vers wep craft

Don’t think too much about it

[sour wing]

used my first to get 2 piece and i got another from 1800 pvp

so i can cata again

[olive wraith]

Noooo

[chilly fractal]

Save it until you get a 3rd piece elsewhere

[olive wraith]

I think raid first

If you don’t get anything then boots imo

[tepid cedar]

bro after 3 seasons i was finaly able to solo the fk dragon on dawn of the infinite on HM

[chilly fractal]

Oooo good idea

[tepid cedar]

took 9.2m dps to be able to phase him with a drum

[sour wing]

how do you prevent chromie from dying

[tepid cedar]

u dont

u have to do so muich dps to phase him

basicaly get hiom to 87% before he does the wipe attack

[chilly fractal]

that's the neat part... you don't!

[tepid cedar]

and i had to cheese the system

1st time i got it to 89 with dryms

so i had to get a dragon to stay in combat, and get put on eye of kezzan then droipped a dummy to get 20 stacks

and it was tot he wire

[chilly fractal]

haha

[tepid cedar]

allegedly some ppl found a way to semi cheese deathless runs aswell

assasins and mages, ppl are allegedly putting down like dummies, as manmy as they can

[tepid solar]

Timed an 11 priory only to get a 12 street boo

[tepid cedar]

then they pull boss on top, while they put on eye to get 20 stacks

and use the dum mies for mass funnnel

with lust

[feral ivy]

anyoen know how to fix that b.net deleted my game???

and i get this when i click on the wow folder

all my games on b.net is deleted

[olive wraith]

Street is less bad than week 1

[tepid cedar]

streets is pretty easy, its all routing tbh

biggest problems is al the fk tankls tryikng to skip last mini boss when its easier to jsut kill it

[chilly fractal]

yea... fuckin tanks

[tepid cedar]

that skip is so finicky

[thick horizon]

can someone help with my vault? Mythic arcanocore between mythic hand into tier. Current trinket is arakara and antenna heroic and my hand is heroic tier.

[chilly fractal]

wait for raid

[earnest canyon]

what did you change?
Did you let someone else play on your PC with their account?
what is in the folder where you think wow is

[feral ivy]

nah it randomly went missing so i clicked on the install and then it found it or w/e and then updated

[earnest canyon]

computers dont randomly do things

so its sorted now?

[feral ivy]

yea 2 seconds after i clicked "install" it fixed it

[karmic crow]

Is the dimensius trinket sim bait?

[slim coral]

no

it's very strong

[karmic crow]

Ok, cool

[hazy storm]

What affix to use for cloack and crafted weapon?

Haste mastery on weapon? And ascension on cloack?

[restive peak]

Ascension wep, writhing armor bracers

[restive peak]

Either haste/mast or vers/mast depending on your gear, we love haste this tier

[rotund ginkgo]

thane feelsgoodman

but streets feels like a slayer key

@restive peak i screamed at raid today

thati dont have 4p

insta traded 2 normal curios

now im 706 with 4p and champion cantrip boots

[restive peak]

Good lmao gratz bruh

I got my heroic booties last night

[rotund ginkgo]

ETA GG

WHOS THIS GUY

but yes streets is 100% slayer key

[hazy storm]

Due to what

[rotund ginkgo]

theres no giant 10+ mob pulls

all pulls have a solid prio mob

theres 5 fucking bosses

its a dungeon that implements a lot of prio/ST

you'd rather do SLIGHTLY less consistent aoe but blast the main target

and theres a lot of adds that are irrelevant/funnel so u dont actually want/care enough to hit them

peacekeepers for example

[restive peak]

Almost resil 14, haven't swapped off slayer besides 1 13 and hated thane

[rotund ginkgo]

theyre funnel adds for dk/dh

[hazy storm]

Isnt streeets have the tank pull so much then you los outside? They have that mobs there

[rotund ginkgo]

?

didnt do such a pull

[hazy storm]

I think before rhe mail boss

[rotund ginkgo]

we would +2 if dk didnt die

[hazy storm]

The mega pull

[rotund ginkgo]

yeah he grabbed like 2-3 but it still died fast

and still wasnt a big deal

[restive peak]

Mail boss, the little guys mean fuckall, they'll die regardless

[rotund ginkgo]

lots of it is just shitter mabs

yeah

mobs*

like its very obviously just 3-4 mobs and then 5-6 shitter mobs

[restive peak]

Obsessing on overall for M+ is not understanding M+

Like of course damage matters

[rotund ginkgo]

imo gambit is probably

[restive peak]

But where it goes is very important too

[rotund ginkgo]

a thane key?

hm

idk

nah

cant be

first area is for sure thane favorable though

[restive peak]

The dmg I do to bosses on gambit makes it worth slayer still

[rotund ginkgo]

yeah

[plush zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/shit-shiet-the-wire-shiiiit-shiiiieeeeet-gif-17234128

[rotund ginkgo]

i was gonna say maybe the higher the key goes

the more u just want funnel for other specs and u to remain ST

my slayer gaps my thane by 600k?

[quiet breach]

how low of a pulls per hour boss is dimensius compared to other final bosses in the last few expansions tiers?

[restive peak]

Easily

[rotund ginkgo]

i simmed

my thane is at like 4.3

slayer at like 4.8 with cleave

slayer can also cheese streets more

KEKW

u can bladestorm the fixate 1st boss

at least i did on hardmode

hmmge

flood and priory are thane keys for sure

dawn and tazavesh are slayer keys

eco dome COULD be slayer key?

there are some mega pulls there

i think it depends on routing

[sinful spoke]

getting delcined from 10s as 701 4pc 2665 💔 🥀

[rotund ginkgo]

@restive peak i got 101 points

from that streets

KEKW

went from a 9 to a nearly +2 14

[rotund ginkgo]

rio will do that to ya

[restive peak]

Atttta BOIII

This seasons M+ dungeon pool is fucking sick

Except priory

Which isn't terrible, it's just not fun

But the rest are awesome

[sinful spoke]

bro im psure my io isnt low

[rotund ginkgo]

think about it like this

there's probably

300 applicants

in that key

since its a 10

and ppl do weeklies

its start of week

and theres MANY

701s

with 4p

and 2.6k isnt high

[olive wraith]

Ye. Week 2 rio that’s probably way above average though

[rotund ginkgo]

TBHH

i really like current priory

[sinful spoke]

?

[rotund ginkgo]

really? whats ur ingame? just check to see how many ppl in ur region are ur rio

[sinful spoke]

week 2 2.6k isnt high?

[rotund ginkgo]

and you'll see if its average or not

nope

[restive peak]

I can't like it, IDK, I think the pulls are very boring

[olive wraith]

But you probably have mythic raiders occupying the lfg as well

[rotund ginkgo]

you do

[restive peak]

I think I'm like 3100 and there aren't very many other 3100s, so yeah if you're like 2.6-2.8 you're def not low

[olive wraith]

People still farming heroic off pieces

[sinful spoke]

wheres the manu 2.6ks

i dont see them

[rotund ginkgo]

so ur s2 score is shit

the'yre literally all the same rio as u

[sinful spoke]

??

[rotund ginkgo]

no shot u think theres a big gap between 2.6 and 2.5

[sinful spoke]

lol

[rotund ginkgo]

ur s2 rio isnt high either

im being honest man

call me blunt, mean, but im being honest

[sinful spoke]

u might be stupid i think

[rotund ginkgo]

ur literally 50 rio above them

brother

ur rio isnt as high as u thnik

think

[sinful spoke]

and theyre not any of them

so

?

whats uir point

i literally dont see it

[rotund ginkgo]

main character syndrome idk what to tell ya pal

[sinful spoke]

is there somethign wrong with u

???

[olive wraith]

Is above average yes. But there’s so many applicants dude

[rotund ginkgo]

theres 5000 other applicents

u drown there

why would u just insult me lmao

im being honest

[earnest canyon]

im 2100ish rio, and I reject anyone at my level and gear cos I assume they suck like me 😄

[rotund ginkgo]

2.6k isnt impressive

3k rio last season is equally not impressive

just means u did 12s and thats it

[sinful spoke]

i do chore keys for raid

[rotund ginkgo]

theres nothing on ur resume that says "pick me" when theres 400 applicants

[sinful spoke]

i dont push keys lol

[rotund ginkgo]

yeah, like EVERYONE ELSE

LIKE EVERYONE ELSE

so why would A RANDOM PUG

know

to choose u

[sinful spoke]

cause i am that guy

[olive wraith]

I’m basically same boat as you. 3.1k s2 and about 2.6k now

[rotund ginkgo]

ah

so u do have main character syndrome

ic

[sinful spoke]

no

im just

that guy

[rotund ginkgo]

ye

ic

[earnest canyon]

you 2 would make a cute couple

[supple laurel]

what's your guys ST sim saying?

[sinful spoke]

stay mad idiot

[rotund ginkgo]

?

[earnest canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/now-kith-mike-tyson-gif-13249709

[rotund ginkgo]

ill only kiss linc

@supple laurel around 4.9 almost 5

[olive wraith]

Ragish why you hef to be mad

[sinful spoke]

5m

[rotund ginkgo]

bruh

[supple laurel]

okay cool. sounds good

[olive wraith]

Is just game

[supple laurel]

thanks !

[rotund ginkgo]

im so angy!!

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-smol-small-ragey-gif-26398063

[sinful spoke]

me when im mad and i pretend not to be

[rotund ginkgo]

stay mad idiot

[earnest canyon]

Linc only likes femboys, so if you tried to kiss him he would put you through a window

[remote haven]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-comendo-picoca-gif-9669437860846841235

[rotund ginkgo]

i just shaved my beard

tbh

i could pass off as a lil qt

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-cat-tong-car-gif-18327859063546042856

[olive wraith]

Just a third party perspective. You seem like the angrier one in this discussion

[unborn delta]

i write "7mil overall will kick" on my apps and get in prety quick

thane 4p is nuts

[rotund ginkgo]

based

[sinful spoke]

i am

[subtle rock]

My Soulbreaker's Sigil is simming higher for both multi and single target but wowhead and a lot of other resources are saying Screams of a Forgotten Sky are BiS, theyre both the same ilvl right now

[rotund ginkgo]

i simply dont write

i cant write or read

https://tenor.com/view/warrior-gif-25303296

[subtle rock]

what do i trust more

[sinful spoke]

my nuts

[rotund ginkgo]

uh

[unborn delta]

its sim bait

[rotund ginkgo]

i cant imagine screams being weaker

than anything

tbh

[unborn delta]

you aren't getting the vers

ever

on st

bc no adds dying

[subtle rock]

kk, ty

[rotund ginkgo]

wouldnt they also have to die within the 10s of the dot?

Your harmful spells and abilities have a chance to fracture the enemy's soul, dealing 203186 Shadow damage over 10 sec. If a fractured enemy dies, you absorb their lingering energy, increasing your Versatility by 1516 for 10 sec.

If a fractured enemy dies >

[unborn delta]

yea

[rotund ginkgo]

yeah

yeah sounds scuff

[unborn delta]

ios that a delve trink

[rotund ginkgo]

i think

yy it is

[unborn delta]

yea bliz was very careful to make all the delves trinket shit this tier

[rotund ginkgo]

honestly

im happy they did

it was actually miserable

both from a "my trinket is 671 but it outplays 684 trinkets" perspective

and from a qol perspective

"go farm 8 delves weekly for A CHANCE"

[unborn delta]

now its just "my 691 loomithar trinket outplays my myth dungeon trinket"

[rotund ginkgo]

ah if only id be as spoonfed as the other warr

he got heroic cantrip, heroic dimensius and heroic antenna

week 1

🙂

and 4p

BUT ITS FINEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

ill catch up

[unborn delta]

i coulda took it from vault

but i took myth chest instead

wanted to spend gilded this week

[rotund ginkgo]

same

took 710 chest

catalyzed it

[pine raven]

Slayer M+

[unborn delta]

flood?

[pine raven]

hoa

[upper trellis]

only a +7 and only got half of my bis gear. 4pc fuckin fucks

[olive wraith]

FWIW it’s only bis if you have it all

[upper trellis]

true i love chasing down that perfect stat weight distro

[olive wraith]

Youre leaving dps on the table if that matters to you

[upper trellis]

im using raidbots to sim best gear till i actually have everything

[rotund ginkgo]

You gotta collect it to have it all

I'd like to think I'm quite close though for now just ilvl gapped

[deep sapphire]

So with Slayer/Mountain Thane for M+ is there some dungeons where Slayer is better and some where MT is better?

[uneven schooner]

its gotta be MT for big pulls

[pine raven]

priory mountain thane

gonna do a slayer priory run now

[tulip siren]

I think most m+ dungeons you can do big ass pulls so it’s going to be MT

Tho I really don’t like how low the dps is for warriors rn

[uneven schooner]

i see people saying they are playing slayer but when i tested it i just dont do the same damage yall are

[tulip siren]

It’s literally one of the worst classes, low B tier

[uneven schooner]

make meat cleaver 100% please

or uncap us

[tulip siren]

Or just raise the ape hard cap

[olive wraith]

[tulip siren]

I know, sad

I love warrior but it’s just… not the class to play rn

But everything else feels like shit

[olive wraith]

[tulip siren]

I love to smash my face into the keyboard and do damage

Maybe one day..

[olive wraith]

Good luck

[pine raven]

slayer priory

[restive peak]

Bro DHs are fucking WILD RIGHT NOW

[pine raven]

he did not play the full aoe build

he pressed blade dance on the first boss (the boss with 2 targets) and it went from 100% to 51%

[lavish pecan]

Havoc was kind of sleeper hit in S2 (was close to being in the meta comp, except that Arcane had somewhat better funnel and vengeance being the meta tank meant groups already had DH buff)

And the S3 set bonus pushed it even further by making its funnel even crazier

[upper trellis]

ho lee chit 11.89M overall?

god damn

[hazy storm]

These trinks Sims almost the same to me but for raid what would u like to be using of the 3? Sacbrood,seaforium and screams fi forgotten sky

[upper trellis]

sacbrood/screams

imo

[hazy storm]

Due to the shaps?

[upper trellis]

its what sims highest for me

[plush zephyr]

I'm just, really happy to see all these warriors happy

[upper trellis]

we got till at least RWF end right? then maybe back to doom and gloom?

[frank dawn]

eh, I doubt we get nerfed. But also wouldn't be too surpised for blizz to be stupid about it

[upper trellis]

legacy class fun detected feels like lmao

[winged oracle]

do we play slayer or mnt thane with 2 piece?

[frank dawn]

slayer

thane doesn't really work without 4pc

[winged oracle]

ty

[plush zephyr]

also slayer just does really well

in lower keys

and shit even in 10+

[sinful spoke]

the nerubar weps match the pre order set so nicely

[fast crest]

it'd probably be a waste to spend gilded on heroic trinkets for 704 -> 710 at this point right?

[winter shoal]

There's a nice slayer 2p2p build here #1273899855852339200 message

[pine raven]

Halls of Atonement Mountain Thane

[pine raven]

ye dh is crazy rn

[pine raven]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/APcaKyxmG9Lb3T7j?fight=90&type=damage-done

[upper trellis]

jesus christ

[thick fossil]

Fucking bullshit. Why is heroic leap so finicky?

I used Leap on p3 Dimensius and it counted me as walking into the boss.

[coarse nest]

your tank must have pulled mongo pulls to get those numbers wholly

[slim coral]

The Baze gap is real

@misty edge I own you

[loud patrol]

How dors you tb do so much more then the rest my rampage seems to do my top dmg even with 4p

[feral ivy]

WOOOO 4 SET LETSSSSS GOOOOOOOOO

[tepid cedar]

14 eco, make the pinkies our beeeeeeeetchhhh

[pine raven]

this is another priory but with mountain thane again

[spare steppe]

how have you been deciding between MT and Slayer?

[pine raven]

fun

[winter shoal]

based

[pine raven]

just whatever i felt like playing rite nao

[spare steppe]

damn

[pine raven]

but generally you are good with mountain thane
slayer has a reason to exist on fury but its generally a specific pick for specific compositions

*m+

[feral ivy]

just got 4set and im in slayer during raid.. do i just throw BT when WA tells me still?

[olive wraith]

You don’t throw bt

Unless nothing else to push

[feral ivy]

=0

[static rock]

So is forgeweaver just completely pad, cause I'm seeing people end at 7 million and I'm like how tf do you get that much without outright trolling

[undone flower]

i'm a padder ?

[feral ivy]

i thought u were fucking around but i just saw the diff lol im now in top dps in raid woooo

[olive wraith]

I mean just go look at the prio list lol

Even roar is super low prio

[feral ivy]

i did i just thought it was missing the part with BT lol

[radiant knot]

Ok i think i got the hang of it

[pine raven]

last one for now

[north sky]

So, thoughts everyone

I have done LFR, all of normal, and 3/8 Heroic

I have to choose between mythic pacemaker and a hero tierset

should I choose now or push more heroic

[pine raven]

as you guys saw, we never had a real bloodlust even xD

only drummies

[winter shoal]

[tepid cedar]

damn son. good shit. is this on a 12 or higher??

[winter shoal]

tier hat probably

[slim coral]

Just go next week gg

[fervent flax]

Yo does bladestorm hit both the excess mass adds that spawn on dimensius if youre in the middle?

[slim coral]

Yes

There’s a lot of cringe padding being done on dimensius p2

[feral ivy]

during raid 4pc should i do RB>ramp>RB>ramp or RB>RB

[tepid cedar]

lol yep

[slim coral]

People use like all their CDs on the walls

It’s cringe asf

[tepid cedar]

they need toi go ahead and remove thjose adds

from parses

[slim coral]

No

Ramp rb rb rb ramp

Unless youmre above cap

[fervent flax]

Thank you ❤️

[feral ivy]

oh yea i ment during CD's

[thick fossil]

Wrecking worth it on shield bosses.

[tame gorge]

Need a definitve source before Soul Hunters Prog tomorrow. What's the Than opener?

Right now I have Heroic throw, reck, avat, charge, ravager, rampage, spear, rampage, RB, Rampage, RB

oof, thunder blast.

[winter shoal]

You should probably be pressing some thunder blasts in there

Do you have 4p?

[tame gorge]

Yes

[winter shoal]

You can't really have a rotation then

Bc you don't know what resets you'll get

Check some top logs and see what their openers are

[tame gorge]

Is it just sending TB while enraged really

?

[lusty osprey]

If I follow wowheads priority then I basically never use bloodthirst, because between raging blow, rampage and execute something is always available

But looking at logs people definitely use a lot of bloothirst hits

So wowhead priority is a lie?

[tame gorge]

It's probably based on BT being empowered with surge of power.

[lusty osprey]

People are using season three tier set bloodthirst hits

On logs

[winter shoal]

Are you talking about thane or slayer

[winter shoal]

I mean basically yeah

TB > ramp over 100 rage > bt > rb

[brave token]

Dungeon Slice work for Fury? Thane with 4 set

[winter shoal]

Probably better to just sim 1t 5m and 5t 5m

[lusty osprey]

I'm talking about slayer

[feral ivy]

anyone know where the raid lieutenants are? for BOE

[storm birch]

Just took ticking sack of terror on mythic soulbinder

i hate myself

totally forgot

[limber oar]

those are bloodthirsts cast by bladestorm's Unhinged talent

you actively cast bloodthirst very few times in an actual fight

[lusty osprey]

Ok thank you

[echo rapids]

lol 4 piece MT on demon council

Feels gooood

Thought they wouldn’t be stacked enough but it is

[compact knot]

im always talented into wrecking on st

wrecking = first gcd on plexus and fractillus

[thick fossil]

Wasn't pretty, but two bosses down in mythic.

[hollow leaf]

basically

[uneven schooner]

yall think we gonna get any buffs for aoe?

[hollow leaf]

no lol

[uneven schooner]

im feeling espcially target capped now that the dust has settled

we are near the bottom overall for m+

[hollow leaf]

I mean if anything you're better than before given that thane is practically softcapped

thunderblast is softcapped at least

[uneven schooner]

while that might be true that its better than before we are still on the low end for aoe

[digital crown]

when to use thunderous roar in raid? feels like dps loss instead of just using whirlwind buffed exe/raging/ramp

[worn yoke]

one portion of our damage is softcapped and we're expected to be happy?
I saw a ret do 40m burst in gambit today and i was doing 18m with AMAZING procs on tblast.

[uneven schooner]

roar is a filler when you dont have RB charges

[hollow leaf]

it's very low down

[uneven schooner]

in ST

[digital crown]

ok so v low prio

ty

[uneven schooner]

yeah the only time solid aoe is when i get like 5 TB resets

[hollow leaf]

🤷‍♂️ it is what it is

we beat pala on st

[digital crown]

with thane?

[worn yoke]

templar ret >>>>> thane ST

[uneven schooner]

and while our ST is good, its not so good that we can just be prio

[winter shoal]

When there are adds

[uneven schooner]

idk i think we might see a buff to meat cleaver

again

[worn yoke]

not a single thing about fury would become "OP" if they simply made meat cleaver hit 7 additional targets instead of 4.

[digital crown]

lol

[worn yoke]

unfortunately blizzard only tune around the raid so we will be left at the bottom of M+ again, and only brought for battle shout and the ability to survive

[inner zinc]

man thane 4p feels pretty damn satisfying

[digital crown]

i got the same piece in vault 2 weeks in row i need 4 pce bad

[uneven schooner]

do they really just not think about aoe at all?

[torpid cypress]

idk it hardly proc for me

[sullen dove]

so how do i game this jastor to give me the 90%

cuz its either 90%+ or 0

[torpid cypress]

gues im missing haste

[chilly fractal]

Unequip

Equip

[worn yoke]

it's fairly evident that whatever department looks after class balance has nobody who cares about warriors in it

[chilly fractal]

Department?

[inner zinc]

warriors?

[torpid cypress]

we are close to meta we are definitly getting nerfed

[worn yoke]

true insane assumption of me lmao. the intern they have tweaking numbers only plays mage and ret pally

[rigid stirrup]

can we cheat the puddle drop on mythic soulbinder?

when the knockback happens

[chilly fractal]

Not in my experience

Just charge back in when you land

[olive wraith]

If they did fury would have got buffs s2

[uneven schooner]

ive never played arms. when its tuned well is it better at aoe?

[olive wraith]

At current numbers? That sounds broken af. I would prefer funnel over uncapped

[olive wraith]

I mean it was pretty decent last season. The bleeds are uncapped so that helps

Plus demolish and cleave are good

[uneven schooner]

so i prayge for huge arms buff and swap then

[olive wraith]

Y

Fury is fun af this tier

[uneven schooner]

liquid needs to hurry up and kill dimensius so they can do a patch

yeah i like it, but arms seems kinda cool too

i just want to do better aoe in keys

my ST in raid is great

[olive wraith]

Then go play arms lol

[uneven schooner]

ive heard its poop

atm

[worn yoke]

its not uncapped though its hitting 3 more targets. we are eating well on 5 target pulls, less so on 8 compared to A LOT of classes, and we are near bottom of the barrel on pulls over 8 targets... How is this broken af?

[olive wraith]

Colo is close in keys now

[uneven schooner]

wdym now?

did they buff it?

[olive wraith]

After arms buff

[hollow leaf]

if you charge to the boss mid-knockback you drop it under boss

better to just wait until you land and then charge

[near pasture]

For st in raid, am I caring about overcapping rage for RB spam? Or am I still using rampage to make sure I don't over cap? Also am I using execute on cd and spamming bladestorm?

[olive wraith]

Adding 3 targets and keeping 65% damage is a lot of damage

[hollow leaf]

ramp at 115+ rage

and you use execute when the WA tells you to

[olive wraith]

This tier is less hard capped than last tier via really short bs cooldowns and tb resets

[near pasture]

Ty ❤️ and I'll have to get the wa I don't think I have it

[olive wraith]

Hard cap on meat cleaver isn’t the place to grow

[hollow leaf]

https://wago.io/r8u4tHLRQ

[fickle cedar]

After bladestorm you spam RB until either you run out of RB charges or enrage, then big rampage

[worn yoke]

this is the attitude that has kept fury at the bottom of the barrel for damage done in keys all expansion

[hollow leaf]

will give you a lil "kaching" for when you press execute

[hollow leaf]

people have complained about warrior being capped for years

we're not that bad rn

[fickle cedar]

I think we're insane tbh, really good boss damage and pullin 8-15M on every pack is massive

[olive wraith]

As if our opinion actually mattered

[fringe vale]

tbh u dont even need that, whe SD procs u send it prio 1

[olive wraith]

Again. I think giving is funnel would be way better than increasing meat cleaver

[fringe vale]

u see exec pop shinny u send

[rigid stirrup]

ty gamer

[near pasture]

Okay, so even tho after bladestorm I will have max rage, I still spam RB unless I'm about to run out of enrage

[mint ridge]

Might roll ele sham I guess

[fickle cedar]

Yes keep spamming regardless of rage

[fringe vale]

why, fury is finally fun to play with this tierset

[hollow leaf]

only after bladestorm, you send as many RBs as you can fit inside of your enrage window

[mint ridge]

I just can't hit execute fast enough

[near pasture]

Okay, that's easy enough, can I ask the reason?

[fringe vale]

just send it

it pops u send

[near pasture]

Happy to follow blindly ofc as an warrior haha

[fringe vale]

u will max szend 2-3 sd procs in a q

if ure lucky

[mint ridge]

When you spin do you also toss a hammer for that little extra slap?

[fringe vale]

if u want

[near pasture]

Hell yeah brother

[fringe vale]

50/50 i forget to do it

[fickle cedar]

Brutal finish buff (bladestorm buffs next rampage) + slaughtering strikes (raging buffs next rampage, can stack up to 5)

[near pasture]

Ahhh makes sense

[hollow leaf]

slaughtering strikes and brutal finish

[near pasture]

So just super buffing rampage

[fickle cedar]

yep

[hollow leaf]

yeah super buffing the next rampage after your bs

[near pasture]

Kinda like how sweeping strikes worked with arms

[hollow leaf]

bring back 0 gcd sweeping

[near pasture]

Would be nice haha

Thank you warrior zug brothers, will hopefully pump in raid tonight

[fringe vale]

that rampage minmax is nice, but whats pump ur dmg is send every single sd proc high priority

and never use dragon roar

unless u gotta move away

[hollow leaf]

I mean you don't send SD on cd

we have conditionals

[near pasture]

Dragon rawr being thunderous roar right?

[hollow leaf]

yes

[near pasture]

Should that nit be used on cd?

[hollow leaf]

no

it's very low prio

[near pasture]

Or in tune with avatar

[hollow leaf]

even under a naked bt

[chilly fractal]

the dungeon journal duped me... thought gear off first boss would be 2/6 Myth but its 1/6... gotta wait until next week to max out the trinket

[near pasture]

Oh wow okay

[near pasture]

Why do we pick it instead of spear then?

[fringe vale]

conditions where for s2

not s3

u just send every sd proc

if ure holding sd procs

ure risking overstacking it

[slim coral]

Pick whatever you want bud doesn’t matter

[fringe vale]

anmd trolling ur dps\

[fickle cedar]

spear is only good with the 2 nodes under it, but we cant affort them rn (on st)

[hollow leaf]

both talents suck, but spear without champion's might is pretty useless, and to get champion's might you need to drop cruel/wild strikes

which just is too big of a loss

[near pasture]

Ah okay was think if thunderous roar is so bad why we take haha

[fringe vale]

when ui get a mechanic and need to move away and cant melee range

use it

[near pasture]

Is the range quite big? I thought still pretty small

[hollow leaf]

I promise you we still use the conditionals WA

[near pasture]

But never really took notice haha

[torpid cypress]

spamming RB at max rage is troll

[hollow leaf]

if you're outside of brutal finish window, yeah

[fringe vale]

i use it because it glows on my screen with a conveniet souynd when sd procs

but if it doesnt i just follow the spec wa

when it procs

and send it

[hollow leaf]

it doesn't make a sound when SD procs, it makes a sound when one of the conditionals apply

the conditionals of it are different now than it was in s2

[fringe vale]

yeah ik

i just said that

but just sed sd xd

read the 2pc bonus man

[hollow leaf]

I know what the 2pc is, you still use the WA

and you still don't send it on cd

[fringe vale]

bro literaly Madox did a vid saying u do

like 1-2 weeks before patch release

[rigid stirrup]

🙂

[sullen dove]

padder filth

(gz)

[hollow leaf]

cool, APL says you don't

[worn yoke]

8:13 TTK? lmao

[sullen dove]

119.3 points tho

already not rank 1

unfort

[rigid stirrup]

love padding

[hollow leaf]

damn, I had you beat on that yesterday but that pull wiped on 1%

[rigid stirrup]

honestly died at the last 5 seconds

coulda had better pad

fun fight as thane tho

probably slayer will be better once damage gets better all round

[hollow leaf]

oh you played thane?

[rigid stirrup]

yeah

if you proc resets during intermish you're going to the moon

[hollow leaf]

think I had around 7.35 as slayer

sadly not a kill

[hardy cargo]

@winter shoal we look so cute together

[sullen dove]

#gingiemp blowing up illidan

[compact knot]

did wowhead get updated

i copied talents from wowhead like day 1 and just realized ive had wrong ST talents

o7

[sullen dove]

what about em wrong

day 1 like last week or 2 weeks ago

[compact knot]

2 weeks ago

[sullen dove]

if vc/bt shit yea ggs

[compact knot]

yeah

[sullen dove]

prolly the build without s3 tier then

(just has vc basically)

[compact knot]

fierce followthrough and 2/2 vc

-42k dps

im washed

full 99s next reset now

[lean heart]

i have a question about slaughtering strikes and brutal finish
do we care about that in cleave/aoe? or only on ST

[hazy storm]

Generally is it okay to have low crit but high haste and masteryv

[rigid stirrup]

we make up the crit w trinkets

[hazy storm]

Or wouldnit be ghoulish to do so

[hushed gust]

i mean- trinkets and recklessness will make up most of our crit as-is.

[hazy storm]

Wait how about brood mama?

[hazy storm]

Brood mama is haste tho

[hushed gust]

pacemaker and antenna are crit tho

[torpid cypress]

stone idol in m+ get you all the crit you need

[rigid stirrup]

yeah i didn know stone idol can channel while you're moving

might actually give it a try when I get it

[tepid cedar]

frst 15 of ther season timed 🙂

[odd vapor]

until when are we using the durable belt?

[sullen dove]

when sim tells you to drop it

[odd vapor]

😮

[woven valley]

From what I’ve seen most likely mythic belt

At least for me that’s how sims have been going

[chilly fractal]

I looted soulbinder belt and I found a combination where sims said I could replace the delve belt if I socketed it

this is prior to upgrading it because I have no gilded crests

but I put a socket in for a minor upgrade

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rbaF36gdz1EBnp9PELX9ZR

here's what we're simming currently

[torpid cypress]

idk how what happened cuz i have bis hero belt maxed and still sim 20k under delve belt

[chilly fractal]

Being 5/6 on my trinket pisses me off to no end

[clever frost]

Eye of kez still bis or just a leftover from previous thread?

[frozen portal]

when i go to put a work order in for great axe do i need mutiple sparks? it says insufficents sparks but i have a starlight?

[chilly fractal]

Remove your +6 ilvl thing from last season

Oh

Sorry

Yea you need 2 sparks

[tight roost]

2h needs 2 sparks

[frozen portal]

AH

i remember that now, okay ty 🙂

what am i doing wrong here, its previewing only as 704

[sudden tusk]

preview doesnt show max ilvl

[slate sun]

704 is correct for the enchanted crest you have selected

[sudden tusk]

@frozen portal

also yeah is that a heroic crest

[frozen portal]

okay kewl ty

[sudden tusk]

instead of gilded

[frozen portal]

oh shit

[frozen portal]

good call.

[sudden tusk]

goobus

prob had it from your quest

[frozen portal]

took ab reak season 2 im noob again

buy from same dude with 90 gilded right

ohhhh 60 now

[vocal igloo]

@edgy widget wowhead guide for thane is saying to prioritize bt over rampage@100+ rage; that seems incorrect and is not matching up to simcraft

[frozen portal]

fyi it does preview properly as 720 once i fixed the crest

[eternal sundial]

Pull the lines up then

[vocal igloo]

you want simc lines?

[edgy widget]

I think one of the lines isn't translating right, gimme a sec

there should be a VC check in there

[vocal igloo]

yea

[tepid cedar]

thane->add_action( "bloodthirst,if=talent.vicious_contempt&target.health.pct<35" );
thane->add_action( "rampage,if=rage>=100" );
thane->add_action( "bloodthirst" );
thane->add_action( "odyns_fury,if=active_enemies>1&(buff.enrage.up|talent.titanic_rage)" );
thane->add_action( "raging_blow" );
thane->add_action( "rampage" );

there is

[edgy widget]

I'm talking about the rotation page

looks like one of the RA checks is broken and it's messing up the order of a couple lines, should fix in a sec

[gusty pagoda]

Hi guys, im new to furry warrior since i mostly played arms, but can anyone reccoment a good rotation guide im, more of a visual learner then reading a guide

[edgy widget]

only applies to ST btw, MT it actually is better to prio BT

cause

[tepid cedar]

i do. bt is always my 2nd highest dps in dungeons

[vocal igloo]

is it better at 2 targets?

or 3minimum

[edgy widget]

I think it breaks somewhere around 4-5, though BT w/ VC is always better

[vocal igloo]

it feels so awkward to play with capped rage and anger management

[edgy widget]

TBF BT alone shouldn't rage cap you from 100

[earnest canyon]

@edgy widget Do you play any other class/alts seriously, or are you just a warrior guy? By serious I mean not just low keys and normal raid etc

[edgy widget]

na just war

[earnest canyon]

fairy nuff!

[edgy widget]

ain't got time for lesser things

[last lichen]

Chad

[earnest canyon]

heh

[last lichen]

Hey Archi why is Dragon's Roar so low on the ST slayer priority list? is it really worse than a regular BT?

[vocal igloo]

it happens in aoe like during ravager or when spamming bt; happens a lot more for slayer

[olive wraith]

Go look at the st sim it’s hilarious

Last I saw roar isn’t used until around 4m

[last lichen]

just comparing tooltips while sittin in dorn, Roar is more dmg than BT, just confusing

[last lichen]

Im throwing ig lmao

[olive wraith]

Nah you’re not alone. It feels wrong

[edgy widget]

it can happen sure, though rage is also abundant enough during CDs that it's a moot point
Bladestorm generates a ridiculous amount of rage, esp during Reck, but the amount of Executes Slayer gets also contributes

[edgy widget]

BT generates rage, triggers Reap, usually has a near 100% crit chance, and applies CSHB
Roar just deals damage

[last lichen]

Big tru, ty

[earnest canyon]

If the player you use So'leah's Secret Technique on dies, you lose the buff still right? Like back when tasavesh first came out?

[opal schooner]

is it ever worth to convert gilded to runed? im gilded capped but have 0 runed to upgrade

[odd agate]

no not until the end of the season

[opal schooner]

ty

[still raft]

for mountain thane are we just pretty much avoiding execute?

[olive wraith]

Ya

[jovial dagger]

You get runed after having capped gilded anyway

And when u cap runed you get carved instead of gilded and runed

[opal schooner]

ahhh ok ty, i havent played since legion so this system new to me

[jovial dagger]

Dw, questions always good to be asked

If you just do high keys at the end of the week u will be capped on all crests without noticing anyway

[hardy quiver]

If u go to yt and type fury guide u will see some good ones

Like oxxy etc

[earnest canyon]

dont you get another catalyst charge once u hit 2k?

[jovial dagger]

I personally mostly watched critcake and madspatula to learn fury

On twitch

[jovial dagger]

You do

Comes in mailbox

[red grail]

The m+ overlords constantly scan everybody's score and insta send it through e-mail when you get >= 2000

[jovial dagger]

Ye..might need some relogs

4p changes your life forever anyway

[earnest canyon]

Yeah it was in my bags....hard to find anything these days as bigs are so big and full of shit.....

Thanks dude

[dapper goblet]

@sullen dove owned

[jovial dagger]

[jovial dagger]

If anything , adibags helps with sorting stuff and new shit appears as new

[smoky vale]

why did he go boom on purp site

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-world-of-warcraft-dance-wow-pandaren-male-lmfao-party-rock-anthem-gif-27495538

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-world-of-warcraft-warcraft-panda-pandaren-gif-10503307495398246698

[dapper goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-cat-huh-m4rtin-huh-huh-meme-what-cat-gif-5834484041415217257

[sullen dove]

yea idk what that guy said either

why is xan chain grinding heroic raid

[odd vapor]

Is playing slayer even worth with 2 set? Or should i just change to thane,

[lapis shadow]

yes its good

[fossil leaf]

First season as Fury, I'm having a blast 😄

[sturdy spoke]

I have rotation questions

with the thane M+ builds, when we are doing single tgarget, do I still thunderclap when it procs, or is it over all better just to be using rage blows and blood thirsts

[vagrant peak]

as far as i know Thunderblast over everything

[edgy widget]

Yeah, Blast has a very high prio

[olive wraith]

Basically only rampage is above it if you are not enraged

[vagrant peak]

i do have a question do i even bother dng slice simming or is st simming fine and just g owit that

[pine gust]

Roar above TB?

[sturdy spoke]

Thank you

[vagrant peak]

aoe opener

[hazy storm]

4 set?

[fossil leaf]

Yeah, I imagine those parses will go down as more people getting 4 set, although still fun too look at

[vagrant peak]

is there a sim bait item

is versa sim bait xD

[hazy storm]

Ghoulish? Is 4 set a huge boost? Im at 2 piece now and just mid

[olive wraith]

No

Fury likes all stats (robot told me to craft haste/vers wep)

[vagrant peak]

so tldr is every item i get i need to sim it

[warm crag]

unironically pretty much yeah

you can usually apply common sense and see that a 20 ilvl upgrade doesnt need simming

[olive wraith]

Or you could run droptimizer before hand

[vagrant peak]

do we care about the stat weight calculator from our bit

[olive wraith]

No

Best to not use it

[warm crag]

stat weights were hidden from raidbots for a reason

[vagrant peak]

actually a great awnser

[olive wraith]

Afaik it has a very niche use for someone who knows what they’re doing.

Which isn’t me or the vast majority

So ya. Best ignore it

[warm crag]

what is this niche use

[olive wraith]

No clue

[warm crag]

ye it dont exist bud

[olive wraith]

But it exists for a reason I assume

[vagrant peak]

can i ask tho is st trinkets the same as AOE trinkets

[warm crag]

it exists cause someone programmed it 10 years ago and why remove it if its already in

ppl will always be deranged enough to want pawn to solve gear for them

[olive wraith]

🤷

I just pretend it doesn’t exist

[olive wraith]

Not always

Stat trinkets are generally all purpose use

And then you got trinkets with on use or proc based damage which is best to ask about/read about in the guides

Example stone idol is good for aoe. Less so for st

[wheat lantern]

if im sitting at 2 charges of TB with BT ready and rampage is ready to fire off , do i overcap and send the 1 charge before rampage?

[elfin vortex]

Question:
After using Bladestorm, we spam Raging Blow before Rampage. But should I keep spamming Raging Blow even if Enrage runs out, or should I cast Rampage just before Enrage expires, even if I still have charges of Raging Blow?

[lean heart]

keep enrage up always

[olive wraith]

What sobie said. If you aren’t enraged rampage. Otherwise blast

[wheat lantern]

bet ty

[elfin vortex]

ty

[olive wraith]

Rb until you run out of charges or enrage. Or sd conditional procs

[wheat lantern]

finally got my 4P so im outta slayer , god bless.

spec is horrendous juggling in WW when thane its baked in , so nice

[earnest shuttle]

question, the Execute macro how should I prioritize it? if it kachings I just use it?

[wheat lantern]

i think just dont let it get to 2 stacks and shit , fire it off

be enraged tho first of all

[smoky vale]

what macro?

[earnest shuttle]

because one thing that I'm not so sure is that, I tried the macro for a little bit but it didn't kaching and used it and reduced the BS cd

[wheat lantern]

assume he means weakaura

[earnest shuttle]

sorry, WA

[elfin vortex]

Thank you mate

[smoky vale]

yeah just press when makes noise

[flat river]

use execute if the target has 2+ slayer strikes

if the target is below 20% HP

use execute if the target has 1+ slayer strikes

basically if they have any slayer strikes on them

[elfin vortex]

So execute under those conditions is higher prio than rg ?

[warm crag]

just press execute when the weakaura kachings

[flat river]

yes

if you mean RB* then yes

Rampage to enrage > Execute with 2+ stacks of slayer strikes > RB > Rampage

if target is below 20% health

Rampage to enrage > Execute with 1+ stacks of slayer strikes > RB > Rampage

you only bloodthirst as a last resort

if you have nothing else to press

[earnest shuttle]

few mins on the dummy...not sure if I'm doing it fine or just useless haha

hard to say until I get into a raid, this test was without any buff, not even battle shout

[compact knot]

is soulbreakers sigil bait

[earnest shuttle]

how many slaughtering strike stacks do we have to hold before rampage?

[compact knot]

does the sim account for the vers proc proccing even though its only when enemies die

[vagrant peak]

u dont

[compact knot]

you dont

[vagrant peak]

u sent rampage

always

[elfin vortex]

❤️

[earnest shuttle]

got it

[elfin vortex]

And what if my rage is above 115 ? I saw the guide saying you send rampage but what if you have 2+stacks of slayer strikes ?

[compact knot]

my stats are so cooked as fury rn

im at 25k base haste bro

[flat river]

rampage

[elfin vortex]

Perfect! Thanks a lot 🙏

[bitter palm]

figuring out the best combination of gems by narrowing down whats possible then doign stat weights after changing each gem to make augury sim neutral for arms

[compact knot]

helps me figure out if im bloated in one stat

i had no idea i had so much haste until i did a stat weights lmao

[remote bobcat]

yea but it rly doesnt matter that much if you regularly sim ur gear anyway

[compact knot]

its more of a mental thing

i feel more inclined to get different pieces of gear now

because i DO NOT want haste

[warm crag]

uesless info

[warm crag]

50 mil iteration sim enters the room

[compact knot]

mental thing

gives me motivation

[bitter palm]

genuinely thats the only time i ever used stat weighs

and it wanst even me it was ppaw

cause there is some tech to it

cool minigame

neutral augury sim

[compact knot]

every piece of gear this phase has haste on it

and its making me angry

[bitter palm]

and somehow i have 0 haste

vers mastery ring and neck moment

[compact knot]

im at 43%

[bitter palm]

hoa ring at 723 was outsimming 723 helm somehow

the haste mastery one

dimensius ring is simming through the roof for me

obv i took helm ye

[compact knot]

hoa ring is true bis

so is helm

[bitter palm]

and ring is farmable

ez

ecodome ring is huge as well

[compact knot]

this ring is a 2% dps loss

for me

[bitter palm]

ye cause u have 82738239232 haste

i have like 12k

xd

[compact knot]

there is literally only 2 slots i can change though

its neck and gloves

jastor diamond is better than like all hero track rings, and i got a bop myth track ring from raid that i dont want to replace

[bitter palm]

ye jastors is getting gapped by haste trinkets for me

rings*

bro why am i constantly saying trinket cba

[compact knot]

all a stat weights thing

u should run 1

see how much dps per point of haste is

just for fun

motivate you to go fix it

like i see this and it physically enrages me

[lapis shadow]

MORE MASTERY

I NEED MORE MASTERY

[compact knot]

the worst part is though, if i change my neck some items might become WAYY better

[main hatch]

what stat do we want from the secret technique trinket on fury?

[compact knot]

id prob just lean towards mastery

good in all

[earnest canyon]

u need to be enraged cos ur a fury warrior

[compact knot]

top gear is a great tool though

[warm crag]

this shit sucks!!!!

[compact knot]

that one is what mine looked like until i got my soul hunter boots

then it all went wrong

[warm crag]

this is what mine looks like with pvp gear equipped

and you literally couldnt even tell

what a useless tool

[compact knot]

you could link a quick sim and i wouldnt be able to tell you where in pvp gear

[warm crag]

i think you could tell smth is wrong when im simming 3.6 mil with some crazy gear equipped

[compact knot]

idk you could have some crazy talents

like no bladestorm slayer

[teal hawk]

hello guys, just wanted to ask, is the eradicating arcanocore bugged or is the raidbots simming this trinket bugged? because i have this and ticking sack of terror and on hero 4/6 both it recommends me on raidbots to change ( with another trinket like arakara one for example ) the ticking sack of terror instead of the arcanocore even though it does like 1.5%-2% more dmg on avg in a fight

[compact knot]

arcanocore has 7k main stat while the sack has 2k secondary stat

is the main difference

its not bugged

the sim has it doing around 2% on the quick sim

[teal hawk]

ah yes didnt see that

[flat river]

good, you can't play fury without being enraged

[compact knot]

screams is the one pretty good trinket thats crit

[teal hawk]

thank you for the info

yeah i will try to get that anyways from hc

[compact knot]

only trinket like arcanocore that was sim bait was mark of dargrul

i think

i took that trinket from my vault and it did like 0.3% of my overall on a fight because it wouldnt hit the boss

sim is almost at 5.1m

im cooking

[teal hawk]

well yeah..i didnt even notice the main stat although ticking sack of terror hits like a truck

[compact knot]

screams is pretty much jsut a better version of the sack

does way more damage

but much harder to get

[flat river]

is screams only a ST trinket?

[teal hawk]

i think its good everywhere

[flat river]

oki

[compact knot]

no

its good all

[flat river]

kk

[slim coral]

it's good in aoe but it's cringe to use

[compact knot]

well its like us

[flat river]

makin sure

[compact knot]

capped at 5 targets

xdd

[flat river]

perfect duo

prepare for trouble and make it double, type shi

[compact knot]

i think this trinket is VERY good on soul hunters maybe

as long as bosses die next to eachother

[flat river]

very good for the last 2%

xd

[compact knot]

the tooltip makes me think it gains more value when things die

[flat river]

i think soul hunters is one of the better council fights

[compact knot]

council fights are always mechanic dumps

[flat river]

on par with the one in VotI

[remote bobcat]

im gonna be honest it might just be my tanks fucking up the positioning but i cant get good damage off on soul hunters for the life of me

no melee can

[compact knot]

primal council was peak

[remote bobcat]

all melees are getting fucked over

[compact knot]

since always stacked

this raid is not melee friendlty

[flat river]

idk man i got a 99 parse