fury

[south kayak]

and 100% at 5 targets ideally imo

[young swan]

im pretty sure thats horrible

[south kayak]

nah

[young swan]

zdps 4 set

[slim coral]

its at the vendor

in front of the bank

big cow

[hardy cargo]

https://tenor.com/view/akira-job-application-get-a-job-akira-job-application-gif-8274337411388777231

[south kayak]

isn't it already pretty much zdps

[young swan]

no its pretty good

[south kayak]

I just don't want it to be around RB

it's also trash in aoe

[earnest canyon]

KANAAAAAAAAAAAAAADAAAAAAAAAA!

[modest condor]

4set pretty weak on aoe

[south kayak]

I know

[south kayak]

What could they do to make it not so

[modest condor]

well for one they could make reap work like it does with bt

would make it a bit stronger already

[quiet breach]

do u guys think the champ track gear we gonna get at first week of next season is gonna be good enough to break our 4set and 2set from this season considering our tier set sucks?

[modest condor]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

just sim it when you get it and see

[indigo quarry]

cant remember what was the % amp from tier set

but iirc it wasnt glorious

[tiny seal]

Are the belt nerfs live for bolts? still simming around 100k more

[quiet breach]

if we are near BiS currently can we instantly hop into mythic +0s next season with no issues?

[modest condor]

you can hop into +10s next season

[quiet breach]

ok that's gotta be cap

[whole yacht]

It isn't

[indigo quarry]

its a skill issue if you cant do 10

[quiet breach]

were ppl doing +10s day 1 of m+ release this season?

[indigo quarry]

while undergeared

oh yeah they were

plenty of madman

[quiet breach]

oh shiiiiiiet

[indigo quarry]

already hard pushing

its the fun part

[whole yacht]

Yes. I was one of them

[indigo quarry]

when you have no gear and its hard

[quiet breach]

this is my first season back in retail since legion so idk how it is

I was a giga nub at beginning of season but now I'm good

so if its doable I'll do it

[indigo quarry]

its like riding a bike

just hop in

[south kayak]

I don't see a reason to press bt after that

[whole yacht]

Its not only doable. Its the only time I TRULY enjoy keys

[quiet breach]

I am excited man

hopefully my guildies will be hella active and we can push keys together

[indigo quarry]

with the full tryhard that dont get hard boosted by gear after

ahead of the curve kind of mplussing

[earnest canyon]

usually you always want your tier, even if its a weak tier.....you want want non tier, only if there is a huge ilevel diff

[quiet breach]

I'm gonna be on vacation for all week 1 m+ (so wk 2 of the season) just waiting for a CONFIRMED date to put it in

[quiet breach]

pug?

[winter shoal]

let him cook

[indigo quarry]

you can pug hard with some people

[south kayak]

I think 4p should be imminent destruction also increases the damage of BS by 15% per stack or something similar

[sinful spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/woody-toy-story-dap-me-up-dap-dapping-gif-27369624

wasgood chat

[south kayak]

thoughts on this idea

[rich flame]

Coping for next season

[winter shoal]

I think you should learn to read because it's imminent demise not imminent destruction

gottem

[rich flame]

https://tenor.com/view/dunk-gif-21755298

[whole yacht]

Half pug half guild.

[south kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/hammer-mhw-gif-24949476

there is a devoker talent called that mb

i mained it this sssn

[quiet breach]

dawg

the mage tier bonuses are so fucking cool

I am probably making a mage alt because of it ngl

[whole yacht]

Ngl. Multiple tier sets look and sound cool af

I was originally not planning to play it cuz mop classic. But now I might

[south kayak]

The fire mage Frostfire set is making Ignite go crazy

[coarse nest]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/legendary-and-mount-drops-increased-by-up-to-10x-collectors-bounty-buff-preview-377509

Yooo

[quiet breach]

literally all of them are cool af, its actually crazy that something as simple as mixing up the different specs as the tier bonus would be so cool

[south kayak]

wtf frostmage has ignite now lol

[whole yacht]

Maybe I can finally get ashes

[hardy cargo]

time to farm sylvanas for that sweet mount

[coarse nest]

Mimrons and gmod here

Been wanting those forever

Might as well do invincible too haha

Hell might as well do sanctum and antorus too

Lmao

[south kayak]

bro im unsubbed rn lol

and they put this out

[quiet breach]

probably a dumb question cuz I'm 99% sure the answer is yes but, Its a different catalyst used for the new tier right?

[south kayak]

yeah

[quiet breach]

do u get one on week 1 (when m+0 releases)

[south kayak]

For me it's mostly legion mounts but we're getting Legion remix anyway

so it'll probably be the last few expacs where I've missed stuf

SL probbaly

[whole yacht]

Im gonna go through multiple xpacs to try for multiple mounts

Gmod and mimrons are on the list. Ashes is #1. That thing has eluded me for YEARS

[south kayak]

I got ashes a long time ago

[whole yacht]

Happy for you. That fuck won't drop for me

[south kayak]

How do you not have mimirons btw? you can easily get it from the TW raid quest

[whole yacht]

I dont do timewalking raids brother

[south kayak]

fair

it's very fast though

and there are usually skips

[marble pilot]

Ive done it a good amount and dont have it. Dont have glaives either and I kill illidian fairly often

[whole yacht]

Its also an entirely wasted effort for me. I never need anything from them unless they for some reason have a singular goated item

[pulsar quest]

i cant get taeshalach or however u spell it to drop for the life of me

[quiet breach]

wait so if I farm ashes of alar rn I have 10x better chance of getting it?

[pulsar quest]

i luckily got invincible quicky

[whole yacht]

No

[whole yacht]

Next month

[south kayak]

oh so it's not actually up now?

[quiet breach]

is it permanent?

like perma 10x

[whole yacht]

"Month of july"

[quiet breach]

ah

[south kayak]

should I sub for this

[whole yacht]

Is it worth 15 USD to you?

[marble pilot]

If you care about mounts and will do it then maybe. 10x drop doesnt mean you get it. A lot of them are 1/100 or 1/1000 so its going to 1/10 or 1/100 still not the best chances. Though you can chain run with alts for more rolls

[coarse nest]

100% worth the sub in my opinion if you care about collecting at all

[marble pilot]

Going to take the thunderfury drops from a 3-4% to a 30-40% which is pretty sweet. Probably get that done.

[tiny seal]

Can somebody tell me why charged bolts still sims higher then chains?

[coarse nest]

Might be your ilvl but that’s an odd case scenario

[indigo quarry]

dont get baited

its not worth it

[earnest canyon]

there are way better looking mounts these days with way way more detail

[tiny seal]

683 ilvl bolts sims about 100k more

which is extremely odd

[coarse nest]

Nah man I’ve wanted mimrons forever

100% worth farming for it during the event

[marble pilot]

Depends on how far back you go. This includes legion/bfa/shadowlands. And getting the mogs could be nice for people that missed that content.

[modest condor]

cant wait for the outrage on reddit from all the people who have spent decades farming the mounts

[south kayak]

lmao

so stupid tbh

I have a lot of mounts and I don't care if people get it easier than me

[marble pilot]

Eh I see the point but they did the same thing with tusks and mop remix.

I would think those people would be happy to be finally done. But its the same OSRS logic. I did my grind why do you get to skip yours. Even though its 10+ year old content

[coarse nest]

I actually would fully sympathize with them

[earnest canyon]

fair, just saying it had legendary status back in TBC (when I got it) and now its a bit meh compared to the mechs and stuff

[coarse nest]

But also glad it’s beneficial to me at the same time

[modest condor]

im probably gonna try to get ashes and invisible

[marble pilot]

Oh yeah TBC stuff for sure is outdated. The glaives are nice still. But alar is kinda a dated model.

[south kayak]

I got Invincible on the day right before DF launched

then I stopped doing mount runs

[marble pilot]

I got ashes on accident teaching my mom how to farm for it. She wasnt happy.
Though I did do TBC content while it was current and didnt get it then.

[south kayak]

[modest condor]

ive never farmed for 1% mounts

[south kayak]

I don't know how long I've been farming for invincible

probably like 200 runs?

or less

150

idk

[coarse nest]

I’ve casually tried to get a few but no crazy investments

[south kayak]

I got ashes within 15 runs

don't tell godly

[marble pilot]

Ive done a good amount of molten core post classic and have never got a single binding. Hopefully I can get that done

[coarse nest]

Bindings however from MC took me like 12 freaking years to get the garr binding (about 6 weeks ago finally)

[south kayak]

I never tried to farm for bindings

[coarse nest]

And I religiously did MC every week on my warrior

Since cata

[marble pilot]

I have a toon parked there that does it once a week and never seen one.

[south kayak]

The one thing I really wanted was Invincible

and after getting it I kinda stopped

I have the red scythe but not the blue one

[coarse nest]

Same have red too

Wasn’t even going for it

I wanted tesh to drop (still hasn’t)

[south kayak]

I got taesh

Used it once then never again lol

I wanna get the weapons from legion ambushes (?)

the tall sword

[earnest canyon]

You mean the mage tower?

[dusty cove]

Just realised I killed gally with Best-in-slots on intellect

[sullen dove]

Were very wise and intelligent on the kill

[whole yacht]

it aint about the model. its about having it!

[pulsar quest]

what are we thinking for ptr testing today

in raid

fury or arms

[winter shoal]

dn

[pulsar quest]

not cool

[junior gale]

we in the same grp you should do Fury Eddie

[pulsar quest]

kk

[winter shoal]

Any streamers

[undone flower]

LET ME IN

[junior gale]

the raid test experience

[hollow ridge]

they accidently loaded the last boss model and it crashed ptr

[quiet breach]

fr?

[remote bobcat]

[whole yacht]

no not fr, people are memeing about how massive the last boss is

[coarse nest]

[indigo quarry]

like DN

[coarse nest]

Raid testing is starting like now isn’t it?

[junior gale]

[coarse nest]

[bitter palm]

thought i was the only one

[sour elbow]

servers are cooked

[coarse nest]

I know I know that was my bad attempt at a funny

Carry on

[sour elbow]

I'll carry you on. Onto a plane heading straight to disneyland

DONT TEST ME

[winter shoal]

Ayo

[coarse nest]

Wo wo wo

[winter shoal]

Can I come?

[coarse nest]

Don’t threaten me with a good time!

[junior gale]

its like almost everyone right now

[bitter palm]

annoying ahh

i wanted to do some arming in keys

[junior gale]

raid testing is supposed to be happening right now but they broke the servers

[indigo quarry]

raid testing shouldnt exists

[coarse nest]

Going in totally blind would be sick

[indigo quarry]

like it was back then

[coarse nest]

Indeed

[indigo quarry]

with all the bugs

no pokedex for the ability

not even the boss name nothing

[sour elbow]

meh been there done that. I'm old and I'm good with prepping

[coarse nest]

It’s like going through elden ring totally blind

Every single fight is peak because it’s completely brand new to you and you have to figure it out

All the youth be like
“Hey google, what’s the best Elden ring build”

[sour elbow]

All youth should have to reach age 16 before gaining access to the internet

[remote bobcat]

6 gallywix kills and still no myth capital punisher

[sour elbow]

bring back the good ole days of playing outside all day

[remote bobcat]

im gonna hurt someone

what is this shit

most disgusting loot table

[coarse nest]

Damn you didn’t get it in your first kill??

Couldn’t be me

[sour elbow]

hurt me daddy... I got it on the first kill

[remote bobcat]

It legit

[indigo quarry]

they could use the touching grass routine

[remote bobcat]

just

doesnt drop

it just doesnt

im so sick of this

[winter shoal]

The youth don't google things, they plug them into LLMs

[junior gale]

I finally got one from vault this week

[sour elbow]

We've only seen 2 total tho, so it does seem to be a lesser drop rate

[junior gale]

we havent seen 1 drop either

[indigo quarry]

what are you loot ?

baby dont hurt me

dont hurt me

no more

[slim coral]

Bro blizzard needs to fix these servers

[restive peak]

Bazed is FIENDING BRO

[slim coral]

Trying to test shit like they want but they can’t have stable servers

[sour elbow]

idk man, these black screens are preeeetty cool

[winter shoal]

Me when I fire my senior QA staff and then quality shits the bed

[sour elbow]

I'm just imagining all the big execute damage you're doing!

[junior gale]

I finally get to do some raid testing

and servers implode

[winter shoal]

You were the problem frozen

[junior gale]

my fault

[coarse nest]

I have never participated in raid testing

They do it in the middle of work every time

[winter shoal]

idk watching all the hope and joy leaves @sudden tusk 's eyes over the last half hour has been incredible content

[sudden tusk]

the discussions we have had

havebeen monumental

[winter shoal]

I'm still at work so muted but I can imagine

[limber oar]

Big madox

[indigo quarry]

for EU its always late night

[coarse nest]

W for the eu gang

[winter shoal]

They do that so that they can fix the servers quickly if they go down 🙂

[coarse nest]

“Quickly”

[winter shoal]

🙂

12:30 in CA rn, they really clicked deploy and went to lunch

[coarse nest]

1hr paid lunch ez

Gg testers

[fast mural]

"please play the PTR"

[coarse nest]

What’s nagafen doing for raid testing?

[sudden tusk]

monk

[coarse nest]

Ayooo

BRM?

[sudden tusk]

yuh

[coarse nest]

BRM is op right now makes sense

[fickle bluff]

theres raid testing?

[coarse nest]

Yeah private invite

[junior gale]

gotta have access to the liquid private server

[coarse nest]

Yup that’s it

[sullen dove]

mentioned

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/yan-ffxiv-beloved-gif-17689442467911960040

[sudden tusk]

gameplay is sick

[slim coral]

GG

see yall tomorrow

[junior gale]

[keen dove]

pathetic

[indigo quarry]

why did you try after the first minutes anyway

[hardy cargo]

does the velf passive shadowfrost proc show in logs or in details at all?

[coarse nest]

Does what like 10 dps

[hardy cargo]

velf sims best race for fury

so prolly

[sullen dove]

Only have an hour every boss no

[summer quail]

not on logs atleast

[hardy cargo]

I see ty, I didnt see it on my log, another dudes log or my details I wanted to make sure I wasnt tripping

[indigo quarry]

no point logging in when server are cooked

if its not fixed in 5 minutes

its fried

[junior gale]

its canceled now

[vestal pine]

Anyone got a twink discord link? Can’t find it on google

[coarse nest]

https://discord.gg/timewalking-835184530586599466

[dense elbow]

I was so close to @ the mods

[coarse nest]

Lmao

Nothing criminal about that

Smh

[coarse nest]

^ incase you tabbed out already

[vestal pine]

Thanks man

[coarse nest]

Glhf!

[summer quail]

he knows what he likes and isn't afraid to say it

[dense elbow]

I see link, I see it load in, I am ready to click that steam giftcard link

[last sparrow]

wtf ability is this in classic

[earnest canyon]

Why do the 2 classes I play hav season 3 tier sets that look like ass, when mage and others look amazing

[modest condor]

because you're not playing mage and others

[plush zephyr]

You tell me

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Warrior_abilities_(Classic)

Cause I don’t recognize it at all lol

Maybe I’m trippin

[ember apex]

stoneform racial, curse of recklessness

https://www.wowhead.com/classic/spell=20594/stoneform

[plush zephyr]

Nice!

[earnest canyon]

Carlo saves the day yet again

[ember apex]

https://www.wowhead.com/classic/spell=16231/curse-of-recklessness

[plush zephyr]

I’m bringing Carlo to trivia

I just wanted to say I bought tickets to Lorna Shore and I haven’t been this geeked out about something since I was like a teenager

[earnest canyon]

Carlo: My work here is done muchachos, until next time, adios!

[ember apex]

lorna shore is solid deathcore

[plush zephyr]

I feel like they’re black metal at this point

[ember apex]

could be

[plush zephyr]

But too scared to admit it

[ember apex]

they lost their appeal with the scurrying cats meme

[plush zephyr]

They literally sound like dark funeral and cephalic carnage made a baby with cradle of filth

[ember apex]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPVMBg9Cxpg

[plush zephyr]

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-dance-headbang-gif-21011965

[flat river]

https://tenor.com/view/good-cat-good-car-cat-car-mcflurry-gif-9707559671847106697

[earnest canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/tv-simpsons-cloud-fist-grandpa-gif-12082744756246344299

me listening to modern music

[sour elbow]

hey congrats on your F1 movie this weekend. Looks pretty good

[plush zephyr]

Tbh I think there’s only like 3-4 albums I’ve truly loved in the last like decade lol

[earnest canyon]

yeah having a decent full album is hard....its usually one or 2 hits, and rest is trash

[flat river]

are the ptr servers down?

anyone

xd

[compact knot]

yeah

they canceled raid testing

[flat river]

😭

[modest condor]

@honest sundial are you guys not on voice or something

[median marsh]

finally got best in slot mythic

do i need to activate that every 2 minutes or its auto?

[hardy bluff]

its on use

[dense elbow]

it aint auto

[median marsh]

tyvm

[sullen tendon]

Some curse or hex

[plush zephyr]

God damn it Bobby

[honest sundial]

nope

@modest condor

[modest condor]

gg

[honest sundial]

all top grps i was part of this seaso nwas no voice kekw

[slim coral]

Bring back raid testing

[brave elk]

hi there been looking for a Meat cleaver WA to track the stacks, but all are outdated and i can't for the life of me figure out how to make one

[last sparrow]

think Tmy has one somewhere in this channel

https://wago.io/Gjve7Cki9

[brave elk]

hmm it doesn't work

nvm it does! thank you 😄

wasn't loaded

it's amazing, i no longer have to look top corner or count 👍

[flat river]

ptr open

[meager hound]

I usually just count attacks in my head and TC when I get to 4.

[olive wraith]

With brand new fury buffs right?

[turbid bay]

Did we get any buffs for 11.2 on ptr yet?

[olive wraith]

No

[turbid bay]

Rip

[sullen dove]

slayer tierset is the fury buff

[quiet breach]

meat cleaver becomes muscle memory after a while tbh

[undone flower]

ilvl is our buff

[dense elbow]

We scale with gear

[flat river]

is raid out or did they cancel

[flat river]

so true

[modest condor]

dracthyr have scales for gear

[quiet breach]

what dungeons from this season are also in next seasons dungeon pool

[meager hound]

Floodgate and Priory.

Dawnbreaker and Ara-Kara are returning from S1 as well.

[meager gyro]

first I'm told we're furries, now I'm being told we're scaleys - make up your mind

[meager hound]

Scaly back, furry underbelly.

We can be both.

[hushed gust]

Monster Hunter logic: why not both?

[vapid tiger]

Can we spell reflect anythin on M Gally?

[meager gyro]

so we can't become so excited we explode unless we are scale armored furry costumed ... no wonder they don't know how to redesign this spec

[dense elbow]

Fury truely scraping the bottom of the barrel of the playermass I see

[covert coyote]

I don't think any real reflects. can use it with ER to disrespect suppression if you're topped

maybe a juice it from the final phase adds if your group doesn't CC em right

[hushed gust]

from what i know, no, but it's a very useful defensive.

[remote bobcat]

this is rly good, did u make it urself?

[quiet breach]

its not gonna die tonight we are struggling on the soak+line combo

[remote bobcat]

ranges need to learn to run through the boss instead of around the boss

shrug

[quiet breach]

we gon figure it out forsure

[feral ivy]

reclearing mythic and just looking at stix how the fuck ppl doing 5m... are they only one in AOE while everyone ST

[tepid cedar]

lol this btm is rough lol

When all classes are dogshit

[sullen tendon]

Why

[tepid cedar]

Cause all the classes that are on it are basically hard aoe capped

You start pushing 16/17s things get funky

And u have to split regular pulls up on certain parts lol

[smoky vale]

it also probably doesnt help you are doing routes for non-target capped classes

[tepid cedar]

Nah we been just rolling with it lol

About to have all 15/16s done. Not sure if 17s will be feasible

[remote bobcat]

Boosts, shitty runs, alt runs with some mains, etc

[sullen tendon]

Only took me ~ 2 weeks of hoping for invites from pugs to get all 17s done

Probably ~1500-2000 applies

Total

[tepid cedar]

is there anwyaher to get routes

for phys comp

[feral ivy]

OAB mythic p2 is hell lol

[dense elbow]

Raider.io, is a good one. Just look up what path they go

[azure coyote]

What's the damage profile looking like in m+ on ptr?

[young swan]

log out damage profile

[sullen dove]

same flat damage but a tiny bit higher than now

[dense fulcrum]

sometime tiny is good enough

[mossy pelican]

does gally position affect beam spawn on intermission? running with a group and the beam spawns a little left of the adds so we have less time to cleave them down

[sullen dove]

psure its same place every time

ususally beam is like directly on adds/like 1 degree left but its not "active hitbox" until a second or so after you see it so you can run through it really quickly left through right after add circles are gone to stand on adds and follow the back of the beam

[edgy oasis]

Recleared mythic last night too...couldn't touch highest logs....got to be cheese happening.

[oblique thistle]

we will do middle of the pack damage when raid testing starts and devs will look at it and go "we were correct not to change fury"

[sour frigate]

"is in a good spot"

[summer quail]

depends what you mean by "cheese" it's just less people aoeing

[cosmic sundial]

For heroic or mythic?

Ooooh 2 hours later and I’m replying

[bronze badge]

im confused on how much stats im actually getting

Is the item description bugged?

[cosmic sundial]

How much mastery do you have?

[bronze badge]

its same for every stat

but 22k

all stats only saying 1.3-1.5 rolls

[cosmic sundial]

Is this on a training dummy in dornogal?

[bronze badge]

yes

[cosmic sundial]

gonna test mine real quick

[bronze badge]

Ah man im an idiot

it was pvp dummy

[flat river]

💀

[cosmic sundial]

that shouldn't matter?

[bronze badge]

it does so people dont use in pvp

[cosmic sundial]

aaaah

[bronze badge]

tried on pve and it was fine

ty though ur a good guy

[cosmic sundial]

np

I was gonna guess DR

since you're at 22k

but that's some hella dr

[narrow fossil]

How looks fury 11.2 tierset?

[last sparrow]

[pure breach]

[humble shadow]

Has anyone tried fury in eco dome?

[heavy galleon]

Thane so powerfull (lol)

[humble shadow]

Lol

Was wondering what the tier set did over a full run

Heard it's bad but was just curious how bad

[unreal onyx]

pretty bad

[graceful ruin]

is ptr down?

[undone flower]

paint

[undone flower]

I dodge the adds spawn circles going left and then I cross the beam to put me on the good spot right under them, Blizz forgot to activate the damage the first seconds

[hardy bluff]

its completly bricked yes

[graceful ruin]

breh

you can log onto ptr without a sub right?

[orchid dagger]

No lol

Can't be poor out here

[plush zephyr]

would be a hilarious work around

[plush maple]

Poor feedback not worth as much as paid feedback

[chilly fractal]

Maybe they are just a penny pincher millionaire

[whole yacht]

Why would you be able to play anything other than the trial for free

[dense elbow]

PTR testing should pay us

[frozen cosmos]

Kek

[whole yacht]

I disagree. No one forces you to log into ptr.

[frozen cosmos]

Bliz axed paid testers

No way they would pay players

[graceful ruin]

because monthly subs are outdated and dogshit for games but that's another conversation lol

[whole yacht]

Multiple games and game accounts have monthly subs. If you dont like it. Don't play it. Or use gold to pay your sub

Simple as that tbh

[clever iron]

yeah its easy to farm the gold for the sub if u dont have moneyhoney

Macro Yell: Dancin For Gold in GoldShire!

[gilded pawn]

Why have monthly subs

[whole yacht]

Its never been easier to farm millions, than retail wow.

[gilded pawn]

When you can turn wow into a gacha

[whole yacht]

What would be gacha?

[chilly fractal]

Loot boxes containing gear

[whole yacht]

Armor and weapons?

[chilly fractal]

But most of them are kujo trinket

[whole yacht]

Rough

[chilly fractal]

$100 per box of myth track gear but you have a 60% chance for it to be Kujo’s

[gilded pawn]

Gear and cosmetics

Easy

[whole yacht]

Insanity

[chilly fractal]

People would pump thousands into it

[gilded pawn]

Look at how much ppl pay to buy gear in pugs

[whole yacht]

True

[chilly fractal]

Anyone wanna hit up Hooters in Atlantic City this weekend?

[red escarp]

should i use haste/mastery or haste/versatility for crafted gear? as a fury warrior

[junior oyster]

Whichever the Sim says is best

[red escarp]

how do i sim for that lol

[junior oyster]

Raidbots' droptimizer has a thingie for crafted gear. There might be something better but that's what I use

[hardy shuttle]

In top gear you can also do all the recraft options if you already have the piece

[plush zephyr]

MMOs absolutely have to use a subscription model lol

I think season passes are bullshit

I don’t have any knowledge on profits for any mmo company, but I’m sure they couldn’t afford to be churning out content without subs

[coarse nest]

Subscription is just their monetization model

They could easily drop the sub and add a ton of shit to a shop instead

I prefer the sub model personally

Imagine you had to buy bag slots or bank tabs

Or purchase health pots and damage pots

Imagine all the item appearances were trash in game but you could buy flashy ones

Not only that but subscription helps limit botting

People still will do it but I’m sure it helps

[orchid dagger]

MMOs that die switch to a shop model

Look at SWTOR

[coarse nest]

Or like this new zone comes out and you can’t fly in it unless you buy the ability to from the shop

Bro they could do some cringe ass shit

Be happy you have a subscription

[coarse nest]

Exactly

[orchid dagger]

Be happy that they allow poors to buy a sub with WoW gold

[coarse nest]

That too indeed

[latent hedge]

SWTOR was DoA though. Having no real end game at launch saw to it

[orchid dagger]

Vicious Bloodstone farms keeping poors in the game lol

[orchid dagger]

And when the subs dried out they went to a shop model

[latent hedge]

Best leveling experience I’ve had in a MMO

[orchid dagger]

Too bad leveling ain't shit for a MMO

[flat river]

Huge we start at 25 rage on pull

[modest condor]

that's not what it says

it says that if you have more than 25 rage at pull it gets lowered to 25

which is how it has worked since forever

[mossy fox]

also isnt this mop stuff

[modest condor]

would explain why i havent seen that post in my wowhead feed

[young swan]

galastronk moment

[flat river]

no

ohhh wait

its for mists

lmao

[dense elbow]

Gala trying to spread more fake news?

[remote bobcat]

i made top 10 :D

yippie

[winter shoal]

Me when I went from r2 to r184

[flat river]

guys

i just woke up

and had a banger dream

[dense elbow]

you still asleep

head to bed

[flat river]

about warrior buffs

first buff: warrior 8 target softcap

[remote bobcat]

JUST GIVE ME THE 99 WHY IS IT STUCK ON 98 RAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[dense elbow]

Cause u bad

[remote bobcat]

:(

[dense elbow]

Traitor

[remote bobcat]

its rank13

[dense elbow]

Why is it historic 98, but todays 99?

[high echo]

The game has affected your brain so much you can't even imagine warrior without target cap

[winter shoal]

New 11.1.7 partition

[remote bobcat]

because more parses now

than then

more shit ones

[dense elbow]

Ah, partitions, makes sense

[flat river]

i also had a dream a few days ago that i became warrior dev 💪

and made warrior great again

[high echo]

Tbh it's not an easy job

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/sakamoto-nichijou-hahaha-no-cat-gif-6780383736816568178

[high echo]

I just wish they'd copy GW2 a little bit

[jolly parrot]

is there a way to see recently ptr logs

[fiery edge]

foory buffs?

[dense elbow]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/reports?zone=45

[sour frigate]

Noober

[remote bobcat]

todays% 99

raa

[sour frigate]

[cosmic sundial]

I would accept you

[coarse nest]

Today’s 99s are tomorrows 98s

This is the way

[dense elbow]

♥

[coarse nest]

Just un nerf charge bolt real quick you got it

[dense elbow]

With the crit belt, sims want me to make all my gear haste/vers I am gonna be immortal

[coarse nest]

Imagine fury as a vers stacking spec

Literally immortal

[dense elbow]

4% more DR, I take it

[remote bobcat]

ikr

[quiet geyser]

Whats your haste %?

[dense elbow]

30%

[chilly fractal]

I’ve been haste vers for a while it’s good stuff

[quiet geyser]

Weird. After like 26% my sims avoid haste like the plague lol

[dense elbow]

I am a fan of versa DR, so indeed - it is the good stuff

Ye, was expecting some Versa/Mast or Versa/crit

(especially since I play OF)

[quiet geyser]

Mines like haste to 26%, mastery to first DR, then dump all vers

[dense elbow]

After this recraft, I will sit at 10% DR from versa

[glad coyote]

so for the belt, why are people still using lighting charged bolt?

[dense elbow]

#lazy

[coarse nest]

They don’t read the Wowhead news

[quiet breach]

do u guys always wait to bladestorm/reck the first set of adds at the beginning of gallywix M?

like ofc u use it on pull but ur 2nd one

[smoky vale]

you should always have it back up

unless you just insta kick for some reason

[native wadi]

Does anyone sims 3,2?

I have a mess of gems robot goes prprrprpr

But i think is very minimal

[quiet geyser]

Yes

[marble pilot]

We dooming or coping today? Or a mix of both.

[flat river]

always doom

[gilded pawn]

What’s happening today

[quiet geyser]

I think my top is 3.16

[marble pilot]

Nothing new that im aware of but I just got up.

Raid testing maybe?

[summer quail]

maybe someone did last week before the belt nerf. i was at 3192 last week

[quiet geyser]

Im not using gally trinket.. i think simming with it would push me to 3.2ish

[summer quail]

gally trinket is not like 80k

[tepid cedar]

i hit 3198 last week. highest i got. but was one of the " good" sims

this week 3165 is good lolol

[dense elbow]

Just activate PI on sims

ez clap

[tepid cedar]

i miss the almost 3.2 k hahahahahaha

[sour frigate]

skill issue

[tepid cedar]

701 belt stil lwoer than pre nerf bolt by 20k lol.... give us backk boollltt

[broken wasp]

What is the best race for warrior fury/prot on horde?

[remote bobcat]

for what content

[tepid cedar]

the only class that exists. v-elf

everything else is pesantry. stable cleaners. toilet wipers.

[summer quail]

for horde? utility wise none are good. damage wise it's tauren

[broken wasp]

M+

[flat river]

human

swap faction

[broken wasp]

I'm currently playing tauren but I'm not sure if troll or blood elf aren't better to cover both specs.

[tepid cedar]

jokes aside taurenm would be fun

[hushed gust]

Unless you’re doing shadowmeld skips, or using dwarf for the cleanse, play what you want. The racials aren’t big enough to matter outside of those 2

[tepid cedar]

but itus jsut too big and clucnky

in a game we have horrible clarity it sucks'

[summer quail]

nahh. tauren best race for horde dps wise, it's too bad that it's just worse dwarf

[broken wasp]

Okay, its time to choose vulpera zug zug

Tks guys

[wary grove]

Blood elf is perfectly fine. Torrent is still good in M+

[bitter palm]

real

teleport goes hard

[dusty ginkgo]

Can sims be inaccurate? My performance suddenly dropped MASSIVELY these past few weeks and either I just got worse or me dropping a bunch of haste for vers wasn’t the move

[modest condor]

they can be inaccurate but that's extremely rare

it's more likely you changed something yourself and forgot

or something changed in the game that you didnt know about

[dusty ginkgo]

Hmm the only thing I can think of is the bladestorm buff a few weeks ago but how much does that really change for me rotationally?

I mean I must be doing something wrong I guess I just don’t know what

[coarse nest]

Usually it’s being in the wrong talent build

Or unchecking raid buffs

Maybe slots is set to intellect in game
(Idk if sim sets that itself)

[fair swallow]

I'm hoping they buff the mountain thane tier set more

[marble pilot]

They will

either buff or rework it. Cause right now it isnt even worth using.

[modest condor]

it doesnt but it will give you a notifcation that it's using the wrong mainstat i believe

[coarse nest]

Ahh, that’s good to know

[fair swallow]

Which is sad because the tier set could make or break fury in m+

[dusty ginkgo]

slots all good. i triple checked my talents. i dunno

[fair swallow]

If it stays how it is then you kinda have to go arms for m+ next season

[modest condor]

at least slayer tierset is giga on st

[fair swallow]

Raid I'm less worried about

Raid might be neck and neck with fury and arms

[modest condor]

i mean fury isnt gonna be wanted in m+ unless it's shadowlands s3 destro levels of overpowered

[orchid dagger]

Implying you are even playing war for M+

[modest condor]

i we just dont have the interactions for a tierset to do that kind of stuff

[fair swallow]

True I just want fury on or near terms with arms for m+

[orchid dagger]

Then go play Ret lol

[fair swallow]

I am lol, I got to 3k pugging (before turbo boost)

[marble pilot]

Yeah slayer is doing ok still.
But I expect the change will either be the 5 strikes hit all targets so we get way more procs in aoe. Or they just change proc rates/numbers in general

[fair swallow]

More likely to be number changes

[orchid dagger]

Yeah, no fucking way we get a real buff

Brown class never gets nice things unless its by accident

[marble pilot]

I kinda think it was meant to hit all targets 5 times. It just reads that way to me. But tooltips are still weird to read sometimes

[modest condor]

it reads like it's just 5 hits regardless of targets to me

[fair swallow]

Okay negative Nancy calm down

[orchid dagger]

You must be new to Woyer

[fair swallow]

I'm not

[orchid dagger]

You are acting like it

[fair swallow]

Been playing war since wod

[orchid dagger]

So when you had the nice thing of Glad Stance and it they took it away because "muh vision"

[marble pilot]

It says 5 strikes on affected targets. If it was 5 total I would expect it to say 5 strikes split between affected targets. But thats why tooltips suck

[fair swallow]

The only people who complained about glad stance leaving was prot players lol

[orchid dagger]

Yeah, because it was goated

And then we lost our nice thing

[marble pilot]

Glad stance was amazing. Sword and board dps or spear and shield dps is the best

Also Punished is a pvp player and glad was goated there

[fair swallow]

His negativity makes sense now

[marble pilot]

Nah that comes from playing warrior for long periods

[orchid dagger]

^

PvP chat is literally people not playing Warrior because of how fucked we are

[acoustic seal]

True. OTOH anything that makes Buhsac miserable I'm generally in favor of

[orchid dagger]

You enjoy your class being dogshit?

[acoustic seal]

No I enjoy your torment

[coarse nest]

BALD

[marble pilot]

I still have fun on warrior. It is annoying when it is in the bottom 3 dps though.
I imagine thats true for any class in the bottom 3 at the time though

[sullen dove]

we’re just 1 of the 3 all the time

[marble pilot]

Im working on an evoker to possibly switch to for next season. I probably wont switch, but shooting off 7 disintegrates at once sounds fun. F flameshaper though.

[orchid dagger]

They typically either buff the class or have a spec that's primo

Woyer pretty much doesn't

[sullen dove]

Thought it was only 5 disints

Flameshaper prolly still op hopefully

[marble pilot]

Its plus 2 for mass disintegrate for 5. And both of the summons also shoot one each for 7 total.
I dont know if the summoned ones have any procs or not though for things like scinitlation

[sullen dove]

fs has been rly fun in m+ tho raid a bit more boring

firestorm procs just feel rly good

[marble pilot]

I just dont like all the extra keybinds it has. And that they have to be sent in the right order. Scalecommander is jsut send it

[sullen dove]

eh yea I mean I think only thing that rly matters is 3 dots before engulf but ye you can get more degenerate with it like pooling them for a higher rank fire breath cuz I think that’s a talent or something

Based on lvl of fire breath u do 10-40% more fire dmg on those targets

I tend to just do opener like gamey then just like r1 or 2 fire breath and chill

[marble pilot]

Other thing I dont like is that you cant use empowers with hover? Or sometimes you cant? Maybe im just bad. But scalecommander having more hover uptime is nice. Main reason I dont like casters is the standing still

[sullen dove]

hitting engulf without fire breath up is extreme tho

I don’t think u can ever empower in hover

Or like, while moving

Can have hover and stand still should be fine

[marble pilot]

Yeah just gotta get used to it. Its weird to be moving with disintegrate fine then the empowers you gotta stop. Even when you have move while casting up

That and people hate when you use rescue. Even if its only like 3 feet to get the absorb shield

[sullen dove]

don’t remember if it interrupted casts or not

I assume it like wouldn’t by now cuz that sounds incredibly cringe but idk

[marble pilot]

It doesnt. Its specifically good for things like locks cause they can keep spamming chaos bolt while you move em

But people hate when you move there toon. Same with priest grip. Just how it is

[pulsar quest]

https://i.imgur.com/owsTg1x.png

me when not unique

double maw pog

[orchid dagger]

Because priests and dragons don't know when not to fucking do it

Almost lost a Deephaul Ravine bgb because some fucking Pres shitter grabbed me away from our flagcap

Thank fuck I had leap up

[gleaming siren]

@flat river

I cant chat in game cause the servers are actively dying

[oblique trail]

@gleaming siren

[gleaming siren]

@oblique trail

Hosen?

[oblique trail]

👖 ☑️

[clever iron]

what u guys think are bliz cooking enything for fury or maybe nerfs for s3?

[marble pilot]

Coping for the warrior changes to show up in a week or two. Cause right now its radio silence

Was a tease towards some kind of utility but nothing for sure

[clever iron]

yup lets hope we get something

[flat river]

:3

[coarse nest]

Do not give me more utility

I want to Zug only

[flat river]

u raiding @gleaming siren with your guild?

if so can i join

xd

[marble pilot]

What if the utility is letting others zug with you more

[echo rapids]

It’s gonna be rough if they decide to fix aoe caps in midnight

[gleaming siren]

yes

[gleaming siren]

no

[clever iron]

noooo let us zuggg

[flat river]

ok guys we're so back

[coarse nest]

I’m not trying to be the utility guy

I’m trying to Zug

[flat river]

guys i had a dream they gave warriors and DH lust

[quiet breach]

lolwut?

[flat river]

no idea why DH

i guess my brain was like "if they are going to give a class with tank spec lust, we gotta give another class with tank spec lust too"

[marble pilot]

Nah VDH has all the utility already. F those guys

Give it to brew or something instead. When was the last time you had a brew tank for you

[flat river]

YES

LET THEM ALL DRINK

AND BECOME DRUNK WITH HASTE

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[coarse nest]

Bro VDH is already insanely valuable to have in a key. Can you imagine they also give it lust!?

They should add choice nodes with stormbolt, shockwave, and intimidating shout that say
increase all damage by 5%

ez

We Zug

[slim coral]

finally time to raid

[winter shoal]

cluegi

[flat river]

tooltip bug

the effect still works the same

xD

[coarse nest]

Raid test raid test

[dense elbow]

what about me?

[gleaming siren]

Do you want me to give it to you straight

[dense elbow]

I prefer it with some sugar on top

[flat river]

give it to him sideways

[ornate pulsar]

chat are we cooked or cooking for 11.2

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/robin-hood-fortune-teller-future-prediction-gif-25704815

[orchid dagger]

Reroll until buffs are announced

Like at this point just have all melee at 80 ready to go in case brown class is cooked

[slim coral]

Yes

[flat river]

when is raid coming out

or is it our already

[slim coral]

New health pot btw

make sure you guys get it

[flat river]

from who

[slim coral]

20 mins

[flat river]

im alliance

[dense elbow]

Same guy for alliance, he is in StormWind trade district

[flat river]

found him

[faint sphinx]

why i can't use this ?

i'm new and i'm stuck in this first mission

they are telling me to use charge

[orchid dagger]

Jump the fence

You don't have pathing

[faint sphinx]

same

[ornate gust]

it is a sign to drop the warrior and play another class ☠️

[gilded pawn]

Jumping the fence is illegal now

[faint sphinx]

still not working

[faint sphinx]

[gleaming siren]

now youre likely too close

[gilded pawn]

Wait is this classic

That ms icon looks sketchy

[summer quail]

i don't think that's ms

[faint sphinx]

yeah it's classic

i did it once but now it wont work

[flat river]

u in combat?

u cant charge in combat

in classic atleast

[winter shoal]

holy

[faint sphinx]

can it withraw my weapon

[winter shoal]

gala cooking?

[faint sphinx]

or something ?

[flat river]

move away a little

[faint sphinx]

all right

[flat river]

until combat drops

[coarse nest]

Auto attack icon is mortal strike now

Frappe Mortel

[orchid dagger]

Little bro is getting filtered in Clasic

You love to see it

[winter shoal]

Yeah come play retail where you can charge in combat without spending talents on it

[faint sphinx]

this game hates me , nothing works xD i still can't use charge

[orchid dagger]

Come play Retail where you can reroll after being filtered

[winter shoal]

Try /reload or log out and back in I guess?

[gilded pawn]

If you press it it should tell you why

[coarse nest]

LOL

[gilded pawn]

Or something

[faint sphinx]

ty i will try

[orchid dagger]

Try Alt+F4

Guaranteed success

[faint sphinx]

should i laugh ?

[orchid dagger]

Well you couldn't read Charge's tooltip

[faint sphinx]

i'm not in a combat stance

[coarse nest]

It says it in red text

[winter shoal]

Ye you're in combat, just run away a bit and it should drop combat

Combat isn't a stance

[coarse nest]

You cannot charge while you are combat flagged

[faint sphinx]

oh dam finally it's working xD ty guys

this journey is gonna be fun

[coarse nest]

Enjoy it honestly

You only get it once

[faint sphinx]

my friends they invited me to play with them so i'm trying to catch up to them without them knowing

[faint sphinx]

ty ty

[winter shoal]

Get after it bud

[faint sphinx]

ty

have a good one guys won't bother u again

[coarse nest]

Not a bother bro

[winter shoal]

Don't hesitate to bother

[coarse nest]

We yap here all day everyday

[winter shoal]

99% of the messages in here are mindless drivel

Legitimate questions are welcome

[faint sphinx]

oh that's so nice from me

[smoky vale]

hi

hi

[faint sphinx]

but i'm following this i wont ask a lot

[smoky vale]

hi

im drivelling

[faint sphinx]

at least until i get stuck haha

[winter shoal]

gio has never sent an intelligent message in the history of time

(real)

[smoky vale]

?

[coarse nest]

Lmfao

[smoky vale]

thats a fucking lie

[coarse nest]

Gio five seven

Has been banned btw

In the past

[winter shoal]

TRUE

[coarse nest]

Noober moment

[winter shoal]

Glad to see spec diversity alive and well in s3

[coarse nest]

5 hunters!?

Bruh

[dense elbow]

Dont worry, everyone is hiding the fact that Warrior is busted strong, and you will want to bring 15x of them into the raid on launch

[orchid dagger]

[smoky vale]

@slim coral grats on your pc trial

[whole yacht]

What is this

[smoky vale]

restedxp

leveling guide

[summer quail]

@compact knot that you in yodas group?

[quiet breach]

is that @slim coral

[winter shoal]

Yer

Baze increase your OBS bitrate man

[quiet breach]

what's a PC trial

[winter shoal]

This shit looks like my stream

[winter shoal]

PC = poptart corndoG

[quiet breach]

what rank guild is that

[winter shoal]

Like 20 or something

[faint sphinx]

yeah it's rested xp for leveling since i'm new and i don't want to ask every 2 seconds i got it

[smoky vale]

this is fake news

[faint sphinx]

it's like zygor but they say it's better

[winter shoal]

rxp very good if you don't mind paying for it

[winter shoal]

Name one time

Guys I haven't seen a warrior on meters in any groups I'm watching

[slim coral]

I see why they don' want fury to be good this tier

[winter shoal]

Might be joever

[slim coral]

we would be fucking on this fight

if we had tier 1 power

[winter shoal]

Seems like you have to drop frenzy all the time

[smoky vale]

me when i helped with log reviews 🙂

[winter shoal]

I haven't looked at log reviews in ages

[smoky vale]

remember the days

[winter shoal]

Okay I take it back, you suggesting I update wowa was a good idea

[smoky vale]

omg the old log review channel is gone

[slim coral]

ye

[smoky vale]

bowwl

do you remember the massive copy pasta you made

[winter shoal]

Brother that was not a copy pasta

That was a genuine heartfelt message

[smoky vale]

i spammed it

🙂

[winter shoal]

I'm aware

[smoky vale]

it owned

[winter shoal]

I mean I was spitting fr

[smoky vale]

but you were hurt

[winter shoal]

You and Walhe turning it into a copypasta made it seem not genuine tho smh

No shade ofc I'm just xddchatting

I don't remember if it was before or after that but I gave a presentation to all of our devs at work about how to ask good questions that was basically the same content as that message

[smoky vale]

no ik

you were frustrated

we also felt it

because we did the same

[radiant plank]

wow influencing irl

[summer quail]

post it pls. i must have missed it, or just forgot

either way send

[winter shoal]

#arms message

[summer quail]

spitting fr, but also yeah very copy pastable

[slim coral]

this fight is perfect for fury ngl

but this dmg is not

[flat river]

why are we raid testing with less that mythic gear ilvl

thats mad stupid

[orchid dagger]

I like how the response was "don't gatekeep bro" like telling someone to actually do the fucking legwork of the basics is gatekeeping

[faint sphinx]

i got it for free ( from a friend , if u know what i mean ) xD

[winter shoal]

W

[summer quail]

coz it's heroic testing? you're mad stupid

[smoky vale]

rereading it

what a fucking banger

[faint sphinx]

[flat river]

make gear better than mythic gear from season 2?

we have less ilvl than season 2 ilvl

[summer quail]

they test at a certain ilvl to see how the fight is tuned

[winter shoal]

Not to soapbox too much but I think a LOT of people just give up as soon as they encounter some difficulty in anything and want to offload the effort onto other people/tools

And I think there are a lot of reasons for that but I would sound like a grump boomer if I kept yapping about it

[orchid dagger]

In the wise words of my ancestors, passed down through generations:

"Fuck em"

[winter shoal]

I do a lot of interviews at work tho and I can tell you I've seen a lot more people plugging very simple things into google and copypasting the AI generated response in the last year or so than I did a couple years ago

[smoky vale]

#arms message
@winter shoal hahah you typed the same thing months ago

[winter shoal]

#arms message

call me nostradamus

[smoky vale]

#arms message

sorry this one

[winter shoal]

ik

I was looking at the rest of the conversation

[smoky vale]

i miss s1

[winter shoal]

You miss s4

[smoky vale]

i played arms in s4

[storm rune]

S4 Arms DPS was like... S1 TWW DPS

Shit was just silly

[charred flint]

In M+ do we have BT as our highest second damage?

I feel like i might be pressing it too much

but again

its our highest prio when stuff is at <35% right?

[compact knot]

yeah

i need to find colossus st talents

[orchid dagger]

DF Pre-patch Arms was sillier

[clever belfry]

prepatch fury

[orchid dagger]

> > ggez

[quiet breach]

are u sad the log review paragraph became a pasta @winter shoal

[winter shoal]

https://mimiron.raidbots.com/simbot/report/n5EcrErfiQPjTzMotJ2ekz

[compact knot]

saved

lfg

[gleaming siren]

This boss is dumb

[compact knot]

ty

[gleaming siren]

Love Shadow Priest

[winter shoal]

Not because of it becoming a pasta but because people didn't take it seriously as a result of it becoming a pasta

[compact knot]

that was close to what i had, just had 2 bb instead of fatality

[winter shoal]

If it triggered some honest reflection in people and encouraged them to learn and grow then that's all I could hope for

[winter shoal]

Where stream

[gleaming siren]

idk Reloe is streaming

no point I cant press buttons while adds are up

9 adds too much for PTR

[winter shoal]

@slim coral unspec SD for thane you buffoon

[gleaming siren]

Surely Colo is gonna fuck on Council

[slim coral]

yeah I did bud

[smoky vale]

grats on your pc trial