fury

[winter shoal]

You kind of want to delay pressing exe as long as possible in most cases, and I assume baseline just glows it whenever you have SD

[whole yacht]

i wouldnt insta press exe when it glows just cuz it glows

[winter shoal]

It's only on rampage cast, allegedly something to do with not consuming the WW stack if rampage gets parried but yeah it's ass

[plush maple]

Wait what, did not expect this reason at all. I don't have a timeframe as reference for how long to wait before pressing execute but I have been pressing execute as soon as it glows assuming I don't overcap on rage then I make sure to rampage first then press execute (Or whirlwind first in AoE situations) first time hearing about parry

[winter shoal]

Is that in response to the WW stack thing or the exe thing

Maybe I'm just cooked

[plush maple]

Oh wait fuck I accidentally mistook what you replied to

[winter shoal]

In general these are the conditions you want to press exe

[tepid cedar]

Where can we see his apl at?

[plush maple]

I just got home from work so I'm cooked

[winter shoal]

We can't 🙂

I mean I think he talks to Archi and them behind the scenes but I'm not privy to those conversations

So the best you get is probably just the maxroll guide

[tepid cedar]

lol why the secrecy?

[winter shoal]

@plush maple aside from these conditions, you kind of want to delay pressing exe unless you have nothing else to press because the button itself does kind of bad dam

[winter shoal]

Idk bro just wants to do his thing in peace and not have 200k skyholders pinging him 20 times a day asking about his theorycrafting probably

[plush maple]

Fair enough, atleast for raiding

[winter shoal]

I mean in keys you play thane and never press exe anyways

[plush maple]

M+ you skip the marked for execution part right because that would make sense

[winter shoal]

Unless you're funkykitty or apocalypse

[plush maple]

Fair but I only do slayer XD

Atleast so far

[whole yacht]

slayer?

[plush maple]

Not sure about trying Thane, don't really want to

[whole yacht]

🤢

[winter shoal]

@dense elbow @tepid cedar do our resident M+ slurry experts have opinions

I assume you still 3xMFE if you can or just pop whatever MFE stacks you have before a mob dies

But I haven't intentionally played slayer in keys since like early s1

[modest condor]

that's how i would play it

[plush maple]

Pressing exe as soon as it glows in keys is nice so you have the 3 aditional bladestorm hits

Between bladestorms

[frank dawn]

yeah you can't hold too much or you won't get the BS buff

[winter shoal]

AM thane is fun

RA thane is a mess tho

[plush maple]

Fair enough!

[fading sky]

Ra thane aint a thing

[remote bobcat]

if vc range and talented, what scenarios do we still prio RB?

been thinking about tier set lately

[winter shoal]

I think below like 40% BT crit

But IIRC when Archi ran the numbers, everything from like 30-70% BT crit were basically the same in VC range

[merry imp]

Do the recent bladestorm buffs make slayer the choice for keys now?

[remote bobcat]

loboz says yes, we say play thane

[winter shoal]

Not really but if you want to for fun then go for it, it's not THAT far behind

[remote bobcat]

its worse than thane but like you do you

[merry imp]

I prefer thane but just was wondering as I’ve been gone all week haven’t got to test it

[winter shoal]

imo anyone who's asking that question is doing a low enough key level where it doesn't matter as long as you're hitting kicks and doing mechanics

[remote bobcat]

i get that but 15% stronger RB seems really valuable, even in vc range

so im not sure

15% from tier set

[winter shoal]

a couple % difference doesn't really matter outside of title range keys

[merry imp]

Well objectively it doesn’t matter but any percent damage increase is objectively better at any key level

[fiery edge]

how was it?

[dense elbow]

pretty meh, ST is decent tho

2.4m stable

[winter shoal]

Sure, but my point is that you're unlikely to make or break a key timer because of playing thane vs slayer outside of title range

[fiery edge]

it's fine

[winter shoal]

Like a couple % dps on one person is not going to be the bottleneck

[dense elbow]

You do tear on Prio things, like in motherlode, the robots - you actually do bring some value

[fiery edge]

crushing blow

[remote bobcat]

real.

[winter shoal]

Doesn't fury kind of do this anyways though inherently?

[dense elbow]

Yep

but this is a lot more focused

instead of 1.8-2m on prio target, you are closer to 2.2m

[tepid cedar]

gime the hidden OF build

so i can go wreck cinder

[dense elbow]

and pure ST is just well, solid, as expected

[dense elbow]

It is time, to accend!

CgEAO9DBjZzKcjSu6RJDto0RCCAAAAAAAAA0YwYhZsMzyYmZWYmZGzghx22MjZmZhZmxYGGWmt5BYGzAAAAxYbZgFwEMDTgZYD

Enjoy giga overalls

[tepid cedar]

if i dont wreck house

im taking u off my buddy list

[dense elbow]

Dont blame me, blame reap RNG

God I hate reap RNG

[fiery edge]

blame blizz

[fiery edge]

the We're so Furover Slayer MT build

[whole yacht]

what to do with my dinar i wonder

[timber hare]

May loboz watch over you

[dense elbow]

if you really want to try the AoE highroll, do OF-bt-storm-bt

[whole yacht]

hmm

[zealous niche]

How does OF change the rotation?

[dense elbow]

It doesnt, you just send it on CD basically

[zealous niche]

ahh

[fiery edge]

hmmm

[tepid cedar]

dow hat?

what

[dense elbow]

the prayge for procs

That reap could proc hellalot more times in that window, but noooo~~~it is RNG, so it said no

I hate reap

[fiery edge]

blizz do sth

[dense elbow]

At least make reap 100% on unhinged BTs or something

it is just too rng to be fun

[fiery edge]

i just realize wrecking throw, just send it on cd?

[dense elbow]

Nah, it doesnt grant rage and cant crit

it is if you go oor or shields

[fiery edge]

man wtf

[dense elbow]

It is just really really better than heroic throw as an option

[frank dawn]

wait wrecking can't crit?

[dense elbow]

imagine if it could, 24m shield damage

[zealous niche]

why not just go for stormbolt cc or rally?

[dense elbow]

Rally bad, SB is better that Wrecking Throw, but I did priory

[frank dawn]

did they change the crit thing when they buffed it with the patch, or has it always been that way lul

[dense elbow]

Always has been

[vague sierra]

Just don't go off boss 4Head

[zealous niche]

makes sense rally does feel bad but sometimes it saves

[dense elbow]

Rally only saves in your mind

[frank dawn]

it probably doesn't save, but we'll keep telling ourselves it does

[dense elbow]

If you would've died, rally wouldnt have saved ya either way

overkill is 5-10million, not 1 million.

[coarse nest]

[fiery edge]

rally cry is so ass

da hell are we rallying for

[zealous niche]

they should make it like healer cd where its like 100% more effective in a dung

[frank dawn]

you mean like every other 3 minute group cooldown?

just blizz things

[dense elbow]

make that 400%, and I will concider bringing it for next time we get BRH

[marble pilot]

Odyns/reckless abandon next season yeah

[fiery edge]

waiting for apo results

[dense elbow]

Not that big of a RA fan, but hopefully the devs get some time to fix all our nodes to be at least better than just picking up passive% stats.

[coarse nest]

OF RA is bis

[dense elbow]

Apo is having too much fun atm, Apo is giggling like a schoolgirl seeing 12-16m AoE as Fury

[fiery edge]

[marble pilot]

Im kinda 50/50 on it. Big bleed builds are kinda fun. But also 40%+recklessness uptime is real good

[dense elbow]

Big bleed builds?

[marble pilot]

Odyns and bloodthirst and roar and gushing wounds. When they all stack up.

[fiery edge]

feral?

[marble pilot]

Well yeah they dont do shit right now

[dense elbow]

OF isnt a bleed tho

I know ppl really really want to try to make OF a TR #2 for some godforsaken reason

but no

stop that

[marble pilot]

Some reason I thought it had a bleed increase. Or used to have? I could just be wrong. I havnt clicked the button in over a year

[dense elbow]

OF got a portion of the dam being a bleed, it isnt the major part of the dam

[tepid cedar]

about to do this cinder

[dense elbow]

Apo is back!

[young swan]

i mean

[tepid cedar]

better not let me down

[dense elbow]

Oh, not done it yet?

[young swan]

its about 1/4 or 1/3 of its dam

[frank dawn]

the bleed is like a third of the damange

[dense elbow]

Hf apo

[marble pilot]

I think I was mixing up the dragonroar capstone with it.
Or just remembering stacking up all the dot effects at once

[dense elbow]

Ye, you thinking of roars buff

thunderous words or whatever

increases bleed dam taken

[young swan]

doesnt bb do that as well

[young swan]

cant remember we havent used that shit in so long

[marble pilot]

Yeah. One season in dragonflight we took all those right?

[dense elbow]

I use it, cause I play OF

only way of few to boost its damage

[tepid cedar]

this is what i got in the group

[dense elbow]

I like Dave, he got a nice attitude

[tepid cedar]

dm me your btag

we should do double of warr run

[winter shoal]

Based

[dense elbow]

Meh, sure, but not this day

today is waiting for tortilla in the oven day

[fiery edge]

how about with smf

[dense elbow]

I am not a SMF pusher

🤷‍♂️

[fiery edge]

ah

[dense elbow]

🗡️🗡️ warrior is other ppl

[sullen dove]

scared of the real based talent

[undone flower]

Fuck SMF

[sullen dove]

miss syi dagger smf yap

way better

[dense elbow]

yap yap

[young swan]

was that syi

[dense elbow]

wasnt it?

[sullen dove]

among others I think so ya

the main proprietor I believed

[young swan]

for some reason i thought it was funkykitty

[sullen dove]

can’t be double dented

[dense elbow]

I am the OF guy

[sullen dove]

Only 1 dent per person

[young swan]

i know ur the OF guy

[sullen dove]

Xan dent is fan made tree

[undone flower]

I like Funky being the OF guy

[sullen dove]

my dent is ra should be best single target talent always and am is dogshit in raid

[winter shoal]

Weren't you also the AM slayer guy before it was cool

[young swan]

yeah but my tree owns

[dense elbow]

I am a big AM OF slayer guy

yes

[smoky vale]

hmm

[marble pilot]

I am kinda curious how bad a full autoattack smf build is.
Take all the talents that boost autos. Like SMF/Odyns capstone/Sidearm/Wildstrikes

[dense elbow]

oh... my

[undone flower]

I tried on dummies

[winter shoal]

@young swan @sullen dove Silm ghosted me but do either of you have thoughts on this #fury message

[dense elbow]

did you push close to 2.4m ST, Happy? Maybe SMF viable

[undone flower]

Since I have 2 myth 1 hands

[sullen dove]

Idk I just hit bs I like 15 sec cdr

I no numbers I do feel good

[winter shoal]

But do you wait like 3 globals before hitting BS to stack with reck/TT

[young swan]

i think u just hit the bs

[winter shoal]

Or BS before reck

[sullen dove]

if reck is like 1 ramp away yea sure

[smoky vale]

i think its send after reck bs

surely execute does big during ava

[winter shoal]

I'm pretty sure holding the 3xMFE exe is correct but I have no idea how to sim that

[sullen dove]

I mean exe is kinda fat dmg per button press

[undone flower]

On the AoE dummies pre- turbo boost, ST was so doggo I didn’t bother send a screen here

[winter shoal]

It happens so rarely that I assume the difference on average is within margin of error no matter way

what

[smoky vale]

wats my dent

[winter shoal]

with 3xMFE yeah

[young swan]

joining swordish guild willingly

[sullen dove]

dming me after a boss ends and going MY JUGGER STAAAACKS

[dense elbow]

did you include the 20% Rampage dam loss from the press in that calculation?

[smoky vale]

bro my last guild

[winter shoal]

post the screenshot of him calling everyone below him on meters cretins or whatever

that shit was goated

[sullen dove]

yea don’t rember context of that even

Was funy doe

[coarse nest]

What’s world rank

[sullen dove]

Like 1200 or somethin lol

on bandit rn

[coarse nest]

WTH!?

[winter shoal]

Swordish you need to find a better guild lmao

[smoky vale]

#arms message

[coarse nest]

You’re supposed to be further than me!

[dense elbow]

Is that decent nowdays? It sounds kinda bad

[sullen dove]

Usually end at 1200 idk if that’s what it is now

[smoky vale]

it was week 1 or 2 or soemthing

on vexie

[winter shoal]

It's like end of tier CE type shit

So yeah kinda bad

[sullen dove]

ain’t no way played arms in vexes

[smoky vale]

or coc

[sullen dove]

ya coc makes sense ish

[coarse nest]

I played arms on first 6 bosses and currently on mugz as arms

Progged stix as fury* rekill arms

[sullen dove]

arms on coc

perfect fight

Rest sounds mid

Prolly arms mugzee tho

[winter shoal]

If my guild ever makes it to OAB/Mugzee I will be playing fury

[sullen dove]

Fury bandit has been so peak

[coarse nest]

Arms go hard on coc

Smort

[sullen dove]

Triple thunder blasting the 8 mines

[dense elbow]

Arms players in Fury chat, bugs and rats, all of you

[smoky vale]

bro

[winter shoal]

I'm a fury on CoC enjoyer

[smoky vale]

every time i drop jug

[sullen dove]

my juggggggggg

[winter shoal]

aint no way bro is still playing thane on OAB

[sullen dove]

and if we both play arms and if I’m ahead a little he goes “did you have jugg into execute” and I go “idk man”

and as it turns out I did not

so now I’m also mad

jugg bad

grrr coc

[smoky vale]

grrr coc

why cant our hunter solo coins

any knowers

[sullen dove]

cuz lot of fuckin running around and shit

[vague sierra]

What's his problem with it

[sullen dove]

and faster if two do it

[dense elbow]

"oh no, movement" said no BM hunter ever

[vague sierra]

Is he dying or just not doing it

[sullen dove]

not like coins are really our problem

a few maybe

just dyin to other shit

[vague sierra]

It's either bad baits or he's bad lol

[sullen dove]

like standing in coins and fire xdd

[smoky vale]

no but we just lose aiden doing damage

[sullen dove]

Yea I mean idk

Usually we’d have both bowmen

[smoky vale]

dunno why they are playing mm on fight

[sullen dove]

doubtful we kill today but ye maybe in general nice to have another dps focus man

[smoky vale]

i remember the context of the screenshot

[sullen dove]

(he looked up the log)

[smoky vale]

it was when we got 99s on hc vexie

no i didnt

[sullen dove]

cluegi

but real

oh when you said everyone below you meant other arms

Not guildies

[smoky vale]

on week 2

[sullen dove]

lol

Funnier then yea

[smoky vale]

yeah

[sullen dove]

“0 tier btw”

[smoky vale]

i had 0 gear

[sullen dove]

yApplebees arms tier sucks

[neon ice]

Powerfull enrage or frenzied for slayer on m+

?

[winter shoal]

I play powerful

[smoky vale]

sim yourself

[winter shoal]

But sim

[sullen dove]

frenzied usually but powerful fine with decent ish haste

[smoky vale]

or play pref

[neon ice]

i have 27% haste

[sullen dove]

eh maybe a teeny bit low but idk just kind of a feel for u

[winter shoal]

tom_ilvl_stats.gif

[sullen dove]

If u like being slow and doin bigger hits

[smoky vale]

i deleted my 2h

[sullen dove]

These are my stats I’m 260 Ilvl 28.43% haste 13.56% crit

[smoky vale]

and i didnt noticed until i was going to play fury yday

[winter shoal]

item restore angle or

Just committing to armsman

[smoky vale]

yeah i restored it

but

that thing is not being recrafted any time soon

[sullen dove]

bro said was goin to play fury

on what

[smoky vale]

stix

[winter shoal]

I still need to farm crests to recraft all my shit

[sullen dove]

sticky huh

[smoky vale]

when these chuds were wiping to 0

[sullen dove]

no more colossus paddin

[lavish pond]

as i saw from the updates section, if u are not a Mythic raider the only MUST choice is Jastor diamond even on Heroic right?

[smoky vale]

dont even know why i swapped to colo

bro i was POUNDING the boss

[sullen dove]

yea jastor heroic is still omega bis ring

Very rare too so not super common

[winter shoal]

You can also probably make a case for myth pacemaker but that's a sim question and a "what gear are you possibly going to get" question

[sullen dove]

Like a hoc is good but more likely to get that stall

if he doesn’t myth raid ever then yea prolly also eventually get a myth dungeon trink

[lavish pond]

thats an option too I guess even though even heroic peacemaker is not in my sim/..

[remote bobcat]

tanks having fun creating a big rock

[lavish pond]

and replace jastor to which ring? i have the crafted ring and the BIS from siren island ring...

[remote bobcat]

lol

[smoky vale]

wtv the sim says to replace

[lavish pond]

yeah i know but dinars as i can understand is for casuals and mythic raiders not for heroic raiders or m+ players

[crude ridge]

A hero jastors is huge

[lavish pond]

depends on the sim

[crude ridge]

I'd be surprised if it simmed less than your crafted ring

[lavish pond]

dunno, guess so

[sullen dove]

I only just got a crafted ring to outweigh Circe finally 681 verse mast

[lavish pond]

also wtf dinars dont give m+ weapons?

[sullen dove]

But jastor the other one by far for sure

[lavish pond]

Circle is not a BiS item?

like who dont have it

[clever belfry]

when will swordfish explode

[tepid cedar]

@dense elbow

it was meh

[sullen dove]

I mean it’s still a rly good ring that’ll hold u over for a while but I can’t imagine it’s bis when other rings are 30 Ilvl higher

[sullen dove]

June 31st 2026

[clever belfry]

marked in my calendar

dont disappoint

[crude ridge]

Circe gets replaced if you can manage a myth track ring

[sullen dove]

you must have a powerful calendar

myth track with good stats ya

Can’t rly replace it with a crit haste ring

unless u are omega over on mastery

[smoky vale]

thats me

bro my rings for fury are fcuked

[sullen dove]

Me when u have 3 crit haste rings

and I have 0 now

[clever belfry]

im just bad at programming buddy

[smoky vale]

w

[sullen dove]

“Last upgrade till bandit I neeeed iiiit”

[crude ridge]

The gamble ring is finally a decent upgrade for me but it has to be heavy vers/mastery

[smoky vale]

I NEED ITP

[oblique trail]

[sullen dove]

[lavish pond]

Circle and heroic jastor / crafted ring

thats the typical rotation

[smoky vale]

it was a true statement

[lavish pond]

i guess

[sullen dove]

crafted would overtake Circe most likely eventually

[smoky vale]

swordish when have i ever lied to you

[clever belfry]

hewwo benzai

[dense elbow]

You clearly did not press BT enough, and you dont want to touch raging blow almost - you clealry did something really wrong

[clever belfry]

i have fought ||hydaelyn|| just now

[sullen dove]

w

are you fresh ff man

[clever belfry]

not fresh

but i just vibe with it

[sullen dove]

well haven’t done endwalker ig

[oblique trail]

henlo

I've helped 2 groups kill the 3rd savage boss today

And got paid 2 million for one of them

[sullen dove]

My friends have been progging savage frog boss for like over a week

Not sure how hard it is

They sure do enjoy yapping out it tho

dancing green or sum

🐸

[clever belfry]

idk i dont intend to raid in this game honestly

[oblique trail]

I do not think it's particularly difficult

[crude ridge]

What game is dis?

[sullen dove]

ff14

[clever belfry]

fefe

[crude ridge]

Ah

[sullen dove]

efef

[smoky vale]

bro when do i log in on eu

we gotta run ff

[sullen dove]

[smoky vale]

am i too scary for the ff people

[clever belfry]

me when

↪️ mare lamentorum ↩️

scary men

[earnest canyon]

whats a ff people

[clever belfry]

lominsan catgirls

[winter shoal]

Get ready to learn typescript buddy

[oblique trail]

meowdy

[clever belfry]

nooooo

i will not be a webdev

cease

[winter shoal]

typescript is goated wym

Doesn't need to be for webdev

[clever belfry]

i know

but i will not be a webdev

stands

[winter shoal]

sadeg come work for me

[brittle dawn]

I have a question, with the ilvl boost we got, can we replace cyrce's?

[winter shoal]

we have a bunch of shit developers and nobody good wants to work here

[smoky vale]

hi can i get internship

[winter shoal]

Maybe, depends on your specific gear. Sim it

[winter shoal]

Maybe but I think you'd have to move to NC or TX

I also don't really deal with interns

[clever belfry]

am*rica

[smoky vale]

dats a bit far

[winter shoal]

We used to be fully remote but boomers gonna boom

Now 50/50

[smoky vale]

gg

[zealous niche]

@dense elbow build felt good sucked when cds got out of sync cause i did it on a 11

[smoky vale]

dont encourage him

[torpid garden]

I’m currently being paid to learn TS

[indigo quarry]

at least you get paid

[torpid garden]

It really helps me play wow since it’s also 100% remote

[winter shoal]

we love ts

if you want to stop being fully remote and come work for me lmk 🙂

but only if you're good at your job

no stinkers allowed

[smoky vale]

hey what if im still in college

🙂

i can learn fast

[torpid garden]

Bad news, I’m a stinker. But learning makes me less of one

[tulip sentinel]

For AOTC raiders are we using an embellishment on weapon?

[winter shoal]

We do internships for high school and college students but I think they're also partially in-office

idk when I was an intern it was fully in-office but that was like 8 years ago

[winter shoal]

That's the spirit

[winter shoal]

The question being is ascension still good on shorter fight lengths? You can sim different fight lengths in raidbots

[warm crag]

you should probably be running ascension anyways unless you have mythic bis + capital punisher

[dense elbow]

Roar and OF always sync with 1st and 3rd avatar

Reck is sent with 1st avatar CD set as per usual and bladestorm, 2nd bladestorm you wait for reck to come back the 10ish sec for for the AoE dam amp (it also then lines up with roar/OF again more or less)

I do spot you sending raging blow over Execute tho. RB quite the weak button in the build.

Glad to see you are not doing like Apo was doing, and actually sending BT more on CD.

I am happy that you enjoyed the fun part of the build This is how Slayer is supposed to be played

[tulip sentinel]

Wowhead guide has us crafting embellishment wrists and cloak but I’m thinking if I won’t get mythic BiS I should probably use embellishment on that

[zealous niche]

yeah RB was kinda habit

[winter shoal]

Are you mostly an M+ player?

[tulip sentinel]

Pretty midcore for raid and m+ AOTC and 12s not going further on either

So probably doesn’t matter a ton either way

[winter shoal]

Might be worth going double duskthread then anyways but yeah probably not a big deal in either case

[tulip sentinel]

Sounds good thanks all

[winter shoal]

You can check your average fight length on hc and check duskthread uptime as well to sim those and see if it's worth dropping ascension for

Shorter fights + higher duskthread uptime will make it perform better than it "normally" would

The wowhead guide doesn't know the context in which you're playing or what your particular gear situation is, so it has to be pretty generic in its recommendations

[smoky vale]

which leads to what bowwl

[winter shoal]

uhhh

people asking questions about their specific use cases?

idk is there an answer I'm supposed to have ready here

[smoky vale]

sim

but that too

[winter shoal]

I mean yeah it's mostly a sim question

But also a question of "how do you evaluate the tradeoffs of potentially losing a bit of dps in raid vs gaining some in keys if you're an AOTC raider"

[warm crag]

is raidbots fixed

[winter shoal]

Think they just updated so maybe

[warm crag]

answer: it doesn't matter lol

just craft ascension and move on

[smoky vale]

or

[warm crag]

gear check

[winter shoal]

I mean yeah doesn't really matter in an objective sense, but could matter to someone subjectively

[smoky vale]

just get a 2 in vault

[smoky vale]

where your m 2h bud

[winter shoal]

Put some gems in that ring bucko

[warm crag]

cba recrafting gear for arms

[smoky vale]

thats wrong statement

[eternal sundial]

ich mit ohne wrist

[smoky vale]

cluegi

[smoky vale]

@clever path

[winter shoal]

so true tho

wie sagt man wrist

[clever path]

Not. In. The. Mood.

[winter shoal]

German goes crazy man

[smoky vale]

not my goat

[clever belfry]

hand-joint

🤷‍♂️

[warm crag]

check your bed

[clever belfry]

no i have to get up for that

and go to a diff room

[warm crag]

masterful gambit

[clever belfry]

not having computer in bedroom

is the best thing ever

[winter shoal]

Facts

[clever belfry]

my bedroom is for sleeping

and only sleeping

[winter shoal]

My bedroom is for watching youtube videos on my phone for 2 hours before sleeping and then wondering why I'm always tired

[chilly plume]

real

[clever belfry]

i take more time getting out of bed than falling asleep

[winter shoal]

I don't but only because I wake up at the last possible moment

First meeting of the day at 930 so I wake up at 920, brush teeth, open laptop

[chilly plume]

phone down PC off and everything it takes me like an hour minimum to fall asleep just laying there

[high inlet]

hey do we have a link to the slayer builds i see the arms ones not the fury ones

[fickle cedar]

donezo

[winter shoal]

For M+? The slayer build would just be the regular slayer build with imp ww/meat cleaver that you play in raid

I mean take shockwave if you weren't already, but other than that it doesn't really change

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/talent-builds-pve-dps

Actually that page does have a slayer M+ build

I'd personally drop AJ for 2xDE probably but I'm an AJ hater

[small wave]

Hey, new to fury, when BT procs, do I spam 3 or do I alternate RB and BT

[winter shoal]

What do you mean by "bt procs"? Burst of power?

[small wave]

Blood thirst

[winter shoal]

Yeah but what proc

[small wave]

Yk when you get the 3 blood thirsts in a row

Should I spend all my blood thirsts or should I just alternate between them

[winter shoal]

I'm p sure you mean burst of power from the mountain thane tree, in that case you don't really play any differently - those charges will get used up eventually and it procs infrequently enough that you don't have to worry about wasting them

[small wave]

I explained that poorly at first

[eternal sundial]

https://youtu.be/t6G2iPWL-uE?si=H0LITYA69LrfF1oI real german

[small wave]

Okay tyvm, mb for the confusion

[winter shoal]

German music peaked with this https://youtu.be/wLC0D41eVgo?si=15lHaGBKaVfjV_HL

(I think maybe half that song is Turkish idk, my german is very rusty)

[eternal sundial]

https://youtu.be/D8ETnXrsaoM?si=YHpKRG0O1W_Ekawl

also good song

[winter shoal]

All good bud just wanted to make sure I was answering you correctly

Phil are you german?

I thought you were a dirty american like me

[eternal sundial]

i am german

[winter shoal]

you speak good english 🙂

same with anda

[coarse nest]

Namreg

[winter shoal]

you both fooled me

[eternal sundial]

i was born in the uk so i am cheating

[winter shoal]

Is Haftbefehl actually considered like good music?

wissen wer der babo ist came out when I was studying abroad in germany and the americans thought it was like so bad it was good

idk how actual germans feel about it tho

[clever belfry]

hafti is not considered good rap even

[tepid cedar]

Any of you guys get a “secret” survey from blizz today?

[mystic hill]

kind of a meme in germany

[high inlet]

thanks big dog

[quaint forge]

my god blizz BUFF FURY

it's fucking brutal out here.

[lavish pond]

guys, is it sensible to focus on the build that noxiv has? I mean he changed his ascendance abilities ( was sword-vambracers and now is cloak-vambracers with differend ascendance). im asking cause is a big crest investement and time...is it worth it in terms of damage?

[sly crane]

Probably not

[frank dawn]

embellishes hardly matter to begin with at this point since they don't scale with ilvl this expansion. The difference between embellishes is then significantly less than that lol

[lavish pond]

ok so he did that cause he wanted like 0.1 more damage? xD

[frank dawn]

I mean, more or less, yes lol

[ebon junco]

I assume some ppl might want this due to recent changes from blizzard, https://wago.io/Gjve7Cki9

Fast response Whirlwind tracker to avoid the delay from Rampage

[quaint forge]

I haven't noticed the WA being slow. What were the changes?

[ebon junco]

Rampage now only registers on the last tick of rampage

[quaint forge]

ah, I see.

[ebon junco]

So needed a work around to track WW stacks faster

[azure holly]

guys is my gear cooked

or is the trinket just that good now?

[coarse nest]

[quaint forge]

🙃

[modest condor]

wow guys look how strong aug is!!!

[quaint forge]

lmao

[winter shoal]

goat

Tmy do you write your own wa or yoink them from other people?

[ebon junco]

This one written on request by a friend

He likes coding

[winter shoal]

Buds was the one who wrote the opportunist one right?

[ebon junco]

Uh yeah, But his doesn't function for Fury Opportunist

[sinful spoke]

better than fury

[winter shoal]

Imagine tracking fury opportunist

[sinful spoke]

💀

[ebon junco]

I fixed it just to have it

[clever belfry]

fury opp with rampage filter

[ebon junco]

but never talent into it

[quaint forge]

would uncapping thunderclap/blast make fury too strong? Surely not, right?

[inner zinc]

Wouldnt really change all that much imo

I doubt it would even push them to our top dmg abilities

[quaint forge]

so we're just hosed w/o a flat % buff to our dam

[sinful spoke]

no

[dense elbow]

ToP - Jumper adds. Tell ranged to stack, so they dont jump around all 4 corners of the room. They finally stack on the next pull. They stand in AoE like lemmings, die. Go "See?!?!"

I swear ranged aint used to doding the simplest of mechanics

[inner zinc]

Ranged always far away when its time to be in melee and always in melee when they need to be in ranged. Tale as old as time

[rigid phoenix]

best in slots worth buying on heroic track? already have jastor ond HoC heroic track

[dense elbow]

Got mythic track Pacemaker yet?

[rigid phoenix]

yep

[quaint forge]

Killing OAB in the near future or nah?

[dense elbow]

Hm, you reached the point of:
Big Red button for memes

[rigid phoenix]

never

dont raid

[smoky vale]

crafted weapon is better than bis

[rigid phoenix]

sadge

[warm crag]

for memes?

[clever belfry]

for meows

[dense elbow]

[quiet breach]

mythic viscera might be his other thing he can get

sim mythic viscera @rigid phoenix

[dense elbow]

Viscera is 1-3% of my overall in keys

I rather not

And I got a mythic version

Pig Liver is decent ST, but it really falls off

[modest condor]

http://puu.sh/KtAsT/bc001bbc2b.png

[eternal sundial]

Ion consider any german rap good music besides like Cro

[modest condor]

+16 rookery breakdown as slayer

overall was 3.77mil

[flat river]

sprocket 3.8% :<

[chilly fractal]

I like Sprocket

I am jelly of DKs though

[thick fossil]

Pretty solid, how many shields did you chew through on the last boss?

[warped bone]

Haven't kept myself up to date. But do we get corruption stuff next week. Or will it take some time?

[gleaming siren]

Revisited Visions of N'Zoth can be visited as many times as you want

Should be able to just grind it out

[warped bone]

Aa, nice

[brazen veldt]

I’m new to Warr and I am Running into keybond annoyances for Avatar and Reck. I looked into macroing them together but I think I read somewhere that the priority gets wacky in AoE vs Single so I was wondering if someone could either break down the logic for when a macro is/isn’t okay or if someone could point me to a post/guide that mentions it.

[summer quail]

a macro is okay when you want to spend both cds. however lets say you're on rookery last boss you don't wanna send avatar on pull, and you would screw yourself by doing so. same would apply to gallywix

[marble pilot]

You also want to reck into avatar charge for insta enrage. I dont think it works right if you avatar then reck/charge then enrage

[summer quail]

yea but that is not really relevant for the macro. you just put reck before avatar

[marble pilot]

Fair. Anger management would mess up the timings but as long as you are tracking that somewhere it wouldnt matter either

[lavish pond]

guys how i compare different embellishments in simulating?

[snow edge]

There’s options in top gear to select different embellishments

Select a crafted piece of gear, pick multiple embellishments

[lavish pond]

yes i found it, thank you !

[modest condor]

3 i think

[dense elbow]

Trying to get a feel of how good a build is doing is impossible when tanks just decide to throw on their fancy hat: Lets go, custom pulls that makes no sense and the random wipe or two!

[feral ivy]

whats yall wish list for warrior s3.. my wishlist is we go back to RA

[dense elbow]

OF buff 125%

BS buff 35%

That is my wishlist

Spec plays fine, just want to have more impact when I press buttons. Those buffs would help close the DPS gap we got.

[sullen cloak]

@summer quail hey bud.

Why would you screw yourself using avatar on pull with gally?

[winter shoal]

I think this was actually the worst song I've heard maybe ever

[quiet breach]

rate this song / 10 https://open.spotify.com/track/2GFbeK1Z4SOoU86BRIXltu?si=o9ItsdmaQZ65f5TV_8dC4g

[bitter palm]

cope

haftbefehl goat and i dont understand shit

[smoky vale]

where you been bud

[bitter palm]

playing doomfist

[smoky vale]

oh nah

[bitter palm]

idk downloaded ow2 yesterday

doomfist still peak fun

[hollow elk]

people still ow hu..

[thick fossil]

Seems pretty legit than. Harder to get invited still, but yeah.

[solemn remnant]

can someone explain to me the kaching bloodthirst wa and when i should be pressing it?

[winter shoal]

Press it when it kachings

The idea is basically that in your general rotation, you fill with either RB or BT

RB is typically higher prio than BT, but BT becomes higher prio under certain conditions

[smoky vale]

god i love vc and 85% bt crit

[winter shoal]

That weakaura glows and kachings when BT is higher prio than RB

[smoky vale]

me when they are the only conditions

[winter shoal]

So if you might normally ramp -> RB, you would instead ramp -> BT with a kaching

That's pretty much it

[smoky vale]

bowwl i sent an email to a professor and they havent responded 😦

[winter shoal]

I emailed a professor once about a research position and they responded like 2 years later saying sorry bud I was on sabbatical, you still interested?

I'd already graduated by that point

[smoky vale]

w

bro i wanna play arms

[winter shoal]

Is this an email about a job or about a class

[winter shoal]

banned

[smoky vale]

advisor meeting

[sour frigate]

augs u mean

[smoky vale]

surely i just show up to school early on friday to snipe them at office hours

[smoky vale]

not really

[sour frigate]

[smoky vale]

i did 1 key last week and havent logged on this week

[winter shoal]

Idk like a 5 maybe? Not something I'd go out of my way to listen to but I see why other people might

[winter shoal]

This is the way

[smoky vale]

yeah

[winter shoal]

Love when people come to my office hours

Hate when people ping me 50 times a day when I'm busy

[smoky vale]

@winter shoal

[winter shoal]

Real

[summer quail]

that is not what i said

[winter shoal]

People love to DM me and also @ me in the DM

I hate that shit

[smoky vale]

those are freaks

[summer quail]

i said that if you wanna hold avatar you screw yourself if you macro reck/avatar

and on gally you hold avatar for a bit. atleast on heroic, not done mythic yet

not on pull but later on

[whole yacht]

ive never held avatar on heroic gally. tbh

[summer quail]

most hold it for the 2m mark if you check lorgss, tho avatar isn't up for when you press reck for the 3rd time. so i suppose macro isn't bad on gally

[whole yacht]

tf do i need to check logs for?

i beat 95% of them mf's

[summer quail]

lorgss

and i never said you needed to check logs. just what most top 50 do

[whole yacht]

top 50 also do parse runs at this point

so i dont count them

[summer quail]

you do you

[whole yacht]

i do

[drifting delta]

guys should i replace my Mechano-Core with House of Cards with new tokens

[cosmic sundial]

You hold a 1 minute 30 sec cd for the 2 minute mark?

🤔

[vast plank]

do you rampage twice in a row if you can? Or do you weave

[sinful spoke]

chat is this a good overall for a priory 12

[summer quail]

yea just means holding avatar for 30 ish seconds

[sinful spoke]

[mossy fox]

man i got so much better at the game in just 1 reset

[cosmic sundial]

But why hold on pull if making sure you have it at 2 minutes? Why not let it rip and wait the 30 seconds later

[summer quail]

you do not hold on pull

i never said you hold on pull

[cosmic sundial]

Ah my tism seems to have made me read your “not on pull” without the not there

[summer quail]

huge, that locks in as a 99 right coz of wallife right?

[mossy fox]

ye i assume walli has public log

[summer quail]

he does. you and him both killed on same day

[mossy fox]

i probably had a 3.8 pull at some point tonight

[sinful spoke]

u did

was insane

[summer quail]

wallife is something else

[mossy fox]

oh the ilvl too

crazy

[summer quail]

i wonder if locknstalk is undersimming. it does so much damage

[clever belfry]

it also doesnt have mainstat

something u dont really notice :3

[summer quail]

oh ye tru

[sinful spoke]

isnt there a bug with that trinket

[oblique trail]

you know what I do notice though

[quiet breach]

is the 2 minute mark on gallywix when the first set of adds come? is it every time exactly at 2 min?

[summer quail]

thought it had mainstat for some reason. not haste secondary

[hardy bluff]

yea

[summer quail]

on hc yeah

[clever belfry]

bro has his radio on?

[quiet breach]

yes hc

[oblique trail]

Richard do be having da Radio on

[tough ether]

if on bandit mythic, we are not even getting to the combination that spawns "millions" of adds, should i just play slayer?

[torpid elbow]

im 670 fury warrior and i am pumping

[plush maple]

My man

[modest condor]

first 17 in time, thanks turbo boost

[quiet breach]

how many ranged does there have to be in the raid for drills to not spawn on melee in mythic sprocket?

[whole yacht]

chat wheres the dinar vendor

[modest condor]

next to the entrance to the bank

where you got the quest

[clever belfry]

believe it's 9

[whole yacht]

goat

[whole yacht]

i got the quest by killing a raid boss

not by picking it up

lol

[quiet breach]

lol we never getting that many

[modest condor]

oh

[clever belfry]

gg you will have to play the 3rd drills in every rot then

the 9 includes ranged healers btw

[quiet breach]

oh

ok

ok we can get that

[clever belfry]

It will only ever target melee after the ranged pool is exhausted btw

[quiet breach]

hpally and mistweaver are considered melee right?

[clever belfry]

and every rotation resets with intermission

[clever belfry]

ya

or well, not always
but in this case they are

[modest condor]

pretty good overall for a top http://puu.sh/KtANC/54d9920dd2.png

dont mind the boomkin he died on lust pull

[rotund ginkgo]

How much dmg increase is windfury for us?

[whole yacht]

does each toon not get dinars? is it 1 toon?

[modest condor]

do a sim with windfury and one without

[marble pilot]

You gotta do the quest on each toon but they can all get it

[rotund ginkgo]

I'm not in my pc rn

[whole yacht]

well. the quest doesnt exist on my other toon?

[marble pilot]

And only the ones with myth kills or +12s get myth loot the rest get hero loot

[rotund ginkgo]

Can u do for me :3

[torpid elbow]

should i trade my cryket ring for the jastor hero piece?

circet

[whole yacht]

depends. whats your other ring

and what does the sim say

[torpid elbow]

85 tenure is my other and its hero but i ran sim and it says its way better with just 85 tenure and jastor

[smoky vale]

:3

[quiet breach]

enter a raid/mythic dungeon

it gave it to me when I started an m+ cinderbrew

[whole yacht]

if sim says run 85 tenure and jastor, run 85 tenure and jastor

[whole yacht]

nah im just stupid

you turn the quest into the npc, but to pick it up, is on the wall behind the npc slgihtly around a corner

so i didnt see it at first

and im just stupid

[sour prawn]

does mastery cap?

[smoky vale]

sim your gear

[oblique trail]

The only cap would be 100% crit, but no stats don't have caps

[sour prawn]

im at 2.760m

now what

[rotund ginkgo]

Can u :3

[oblique trail]

The only thing tied to it would be diminishing returns where you get less benefit from stats after a certain point, however this is in some cases fine since that stat would still be better than having less of it past diminishing returns

[rotund ginkgo]

Gio I got a 100 ilvl parse on my warr

:3

[smoky vale]

bro remove the ilvl part

[rotund ginkgo]

On mugzee

[smoky vale]

:3

[rotund ginkgo]

I can't i was 667 lol

🍻

[oblique trail]

If you want to check your stats, it's recommend to do top gear sims and check different enchants, gems and different stated items

[rotund ginkgo]

Bad pull and I still did 2.5

[smoky vale]

oh nah

on heroic or mythic

[rotund ginkgo]

Mythic

[sour prawn]

ty

[smoky vale]

what was rhe %

the actual

[rotund ginkgo]

I think like 68?

[smoky vale]

XD

[rotund ginkgo]

I did 90 logs with 666 ilvl lmaooo

[smoky vale]

bro

[rotund ginkgo]

On first few bosses

[smoky vale]

idk how people afk

[rotund ginkgo]

I got 99 ilvl parses KEKW

[bronze chasm]

Why is meat cleaver delayed losing a stack when casting rampage, who asked for this?

[rotund ginkgo]

they "fixed" it

@ebon junco

His weak aura has it fixed appropriately

[smoky vale]

@ebon junco hi

[bronze chasm]

Any links? TY

[ebon junco]

@rotund ginkgo

[smoky vale]

@ebon junco why are you playing fury

[rotund ginkgo]

Why are u tagging me u dummy

[modest condor]

@rotund ginkgo

[rotund ginkgo]

@modest condor

[ebon junco]

I’m in bed yappnt pig

[smoky vale]

do not at the a guy

[rotund ginkgo]

I'm also in bed

[ebon junco]

I play warrior

Not just a spec

[rotund ginkgo]

The y in tmy stands for yap

[smoky vale]

teahh uhmm yapppo

[rotund ginkgo]

It's actually the mega yapper shortened

[smoky vale]

tmy

is new tft set fun

or will i get bored after 10 games

ragish you killed tmy...

[ebon junco]

Gg I got held back

[quiet breach]

WAIT is this why I've always felt the luxthos meat cleaver tracking weakaura was lagging behind?

[tepid cedar]

fury so shit we cant even get a mid expansion review

lololl

[oblique trail]

this is factual

[woven valley]

Review in one word “nope”

Kek

[lyric compass]

Yea for some reason they made the buff countdown on the last hit of rampage instead of 1st. Makes it feel like it's lagging

[oblique trail]

Something something rampage not consuming stacks on parry anymore

[tepid cedar]

bruh jsut did a vbexie and was in M+ build by mistake, and it fucking clapppped lolololol

[whole yacht]

m+ build did good on an add heavy fight? dang

[tepid cedar]

prolbelm is not adds its the lower ST. and pugging that fight means nothing with adds since pppl still dont understand to bait bikes

lol

[vague sierra]

Last DPS and last review it fits

[silent gazelle]

I never have enough rage to rampage after reck charge

[summer quail]

need to do reck+avatar then charge

[tepid cedar]

hes probably also pre jizzing and doing it early befor actaul pull

[silent gazelle]

I am

[silent gazelle]

oh right they changed that

or some garbage right

Im just doing years of muscle memory

[tepid cedar]

wait til combat starts

[silent gazelle]

hate that

game sucks

hate that especially on gallywix

[whole yacht]

im gonna be so real

i hadnt realized mop classic was in a couple months

i may not go back to retail for a while when it drops

[frank dawn]

I do want to try MoP but I also don't want to level lol

[whole yacht]

just spend some money on a lvl 85 boost. and only lvl 5 times

[sinful spoke]

i need 1 key for 3k

what key do i do

[sullen dove]

idk any of em that arent top

keys r easy

brew maybe kinda cringe with dingleberries

[modest condor]

top

[sudden tusk]

with people spamming 12s

12 top should be ez

[modest condor]

top is honestly one of the easier keys

[smoky vale]

@sudden tusk how big is twtcomplainr

[sudden tusk]

attacking richerd reverb as we speak for my 4/8 this week

got pants off stix

this name owns btw

[smoky vale]

holy

i need to bring my dk into a 4/8

guy is starving

[sudden tusk]

i randomly found a guild progging stix

killed it with them on their prog kill was fun

now i get a free 2box

[cursive flower]

im not sure what to use my dinar, i have already myth pacemaker, myth tome, myth signet, but no raid mythic kills on my warrior, so... i guess ill spend it on jastor ring heroic? best-in-slot hc?

[smoky vale]

jastor would be your best buy

crafted weapons should sim higher than bis

[sullen dove]

what does myth tome mean

like the tank trinket

[smoky vale]

yeah

[sullen dove]

heroic bis stinky

[cursive flower]

yeah im a prot main, but my prot already have its stuff, so the dinar is mostly for the fury lol

[sullen dove]

jastor gaming

prolly good for prot too but idk

[smoky vale]

its pretty good

[sudden tusk]

jastor was 60k for my warrior

[smoky vale]

i asked the robot yesterday

[honest sundial]

impostor detected

[sudden tusk]

dont have friends to key with im basically hard stuck 16s before turbo happened

[honest sundial]

that is very unfortunate

[smoky vale]

surely we push io with dragindeez

[sullen dove]

any big momma fans

[smoky vale]

playing fury unironically

lol

[honest sundial]

now show overall

[honest sundial]

was this a 12

[sullen dove]

its not done yet

but ye

still in prog

also if some fucking chud didnt whine about a ring

i could play arms

but i have 12% crit now

[smoky vale]

mad?

just play colo without crit

gamba

[sullen dove]

ye ur not seein a vote from me again

[smoky vale]

?

bro too far...

[sullen dove]

i am also 5 ilvls higehr than the hunter

[sinful spoke]

gonna get me a big ass bowl of cereal with the little marshmellows in them

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cam-cat-camera-cat-wide-cat-wide-gif-16729570673879006163

[winter shoal]

@ me next time

[sinful spoke]

@winter shoal

[winter shoal]

Sorry I'm actually named after a big bowl of oats, not cereal

Better luck next time

[feral ivy]

on OAB does it matter if u go RA/AM?

[sudden tusk]

Oat And Bigbowwl

[covert blaze]

betsuni

[sullen dove]

can we nerf warrior

[covert blaze]

thank you

needed that

[sudden tusk]

you know what i just realized

why does battle shout have a CD when no other raid buffs have a cd

[covert blaze]

cause it costs no mana maybe

[modest condor]

it used to generate rage

then they got rid of that but forgor to remove the cd i guess

[left perch]

did they forgor or just cba

I bet there’s a JIRA ticket marked wontfix bc they have too many other bugs

[fickle cedar]

warrior tickets are pushed to next cycle

[sullen dove]

\

[compact knot]

it did use to be a offensive cd prepull and in cata

[feral ivy]

anyone lagging lol

[sullen dove]

40 to like 16 best

perhaps??

[sinful spoke]

Tonight it dies

Praying for a bis drop for my boy swordfish

🙏

[sullen dove]

would be cool but insta buy nbd

altho idk do kinda miss no on use

may be insta hoc angle

surely dont feed for the next 2 hours tho 🙏

[sudden tusk]

hoc tuah slot on that thang

[waxen vigil]

What are BiS weapons if I want 1 handers

[young swan]

capos prob

hard to say for certain cause smf is irrelevant

[waxen vigil]

It’s relevant to me

💔

[sinful spoke]

Perish

[chilly fractal]

Killed One Arm… now the patient wait for Tuesday vault

[sullen dove]

that may be more ethical

hold dinar till tuesday see if u get either item

eugh the waiting tho

[chilly fractal]

100% chance whatever you buy

Is there in the vault

[sullen dove]

real

[chilly fractal]

We originally were going to just extend next week but our mage was out this week

So we had no mage and I think we want him to be able to get house of cards

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/hank-explode-gif-5592816

[storm birch]

About how many weeks are left in this season do yall think?

[sullen dove]

like

8

maybe more

[storm birch]

Hopefully CE angle then

Should be these bosses ain’t bad

Still got 2 dinars corruption and what’s 2 more 3% renown buffs

[sullen dove]

ya think this season is like the most discrepancy between wf kills and like end of tier ilvl/buff and stuff

and just random ass borrowed power

[modest condor]

expectation is early-mid august

[sullen dove]

do think its rly stupid tho that corruptions dont carry over into next season

thatd be like more than fine to keep em thru

[storm birch]

Roger that

[storm birch]

Who knows maybe they have something planned. Since I’m guessing there gonna be some sort of old god relevance in next patch? Maybe

[torpid elbow]

dont you ever say that again

[fallen arrow]

should BiS weapon just be used on cooldown or shoudl it be paired up with anything with slayer or mountain thane?

[undone flower]

can we wear 2 crafted rings ? i thought you couldn't but i saw someone with 2 (got answered in prot thx)

[unreal onyx]

You can (I still answer)

As long as they're not embellished

[undone flower]

dear lord, my prayer got answered

[unreal onyx]

No jastor?

[undone flower]

i didn't kill gally M

yet