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No because it varies for everybody
I have to catalyst charges is there a point of saving them or using them on shoulders and head
how much do we think we should prioritize getting it? like, is a Champ 658 Best-In-Slots going to be better than a Hero 665 or a crafted 675 or a 678?
What do you mean.. ‘simulate’, seems suspicious
You could have a robot maybe hit a dummy
Since I’m making a weapon first, do I need to save the first two weeks of crests or is the 60 crest cost staying from end of season 1
And like tell it how to play
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It’s just two sparks then normal Crest cost yeah?
I don’t believe crafting costs have changed, but you could just check that at the vendor I imagine
I am at work for another 10 hours sadly
But thank you I don’t think they have either was just double checking 😛
Y'all thinka hero track best-in-slots is better than a myth track wep?
Sim would tell you
Yea, but i dont have either of them, was just wondering for the when it happens
@boreal quartz
Should I go for the weapon or wait for the crafted one?
I prefer asking the robot to hit patchwerk for roughly 1500 hours personally
@boreal quartz
im trying to switch to arms from fury, any tips on how to handle mythic +? multi target packs, outside of cooldowns, do i Sweeping Strikes and spam cleave, overpower in between? opener seems solid then my damage tanks after
That build is slightly different from what's on wowhead, slightly simpler and basically neutral boss/aoe damage as well
That doesn't include cds but yeah basically use them whenever you can (obviously not if a pack is about to die) and SS on cd as well
@lean geode question for you, I have a hero helm and shoulders and 2 tier converts do I just go ahead and convert em
Will that give you 4pc
no
Then no
It might be, but if you send your catalyst charges on those and then get the helm/shoulder tier pieces from raid, you'd have wasted your charges
Your early catalyst charges should only be used to lock in your 4pc once you've gotten two other tier pieces from raid/vault
Then you can use them to upgrade to myth pieces as you get more over time
ah yeah new rogue tank spec
Hello
What bosses are arms really good on?
Bandit and Mugzee
Those who start at 35% 
👍🏼
how much more % is the arms tier set for the full 4 set vs 2/2 set
fellas does the Haste buff from our 4p stack or is it just 2%
did one 10 and got a myth wep. is that bis or wis
read the tier set
can geargrinders keys be macro'd?
stacks
so you can get 20% haste from it
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thoughts on Grim Codex trinket for Arms?
Hey guys are we able to swap straight from fury to arms or is there a big stat difference
Ok good deal thanks!
getting different rings and neck will carry your stat budget pretty hard
I’ll watch some guides when I get home see what I need to change I’m mainly haste mastery atm so gonna need to stack crit and swap gems out im sure
So, motherlode is pretty fun
just find a heavy Crit ring and or Neck and you will be good Arms doesnt hate mastery aswell so its not a big deal
Can you SS from the goon to mugzee from inside the gaol?
I was not able to no
Unluckty
is there a weakaura for tracking our Winning Streak stacks?
When do you guys use your best-in-slots? I'm using it on pull with other cds, but then it doesnt sync up, do you just send it on cd?
or do you hold
If you have an on use trinket that lines with Avatar you send that with Avatar always and best on slots on cd after it.
If no one uses send on cd with Avatar first and it lines back up later when send fully on cd
No need because it doesn't affect your gameplay at all
sims showing maxed heroic BIS > maxed mythic crafted Ascension wep? That's crazy.
thoughts on test of might
tbf Arms uses double duskthread at endgame so Mythic Ascension isn't too surprising there
it got nerfed enough that it isn't very useful even in Single Target
BIS is very good, it's a whole additional cooldown
How much does Second Wind's sub-35% healing increase by at very low HP values?
e.g. if I'm at 1% HP, how much does it heal for?
Link sim cuz I have yet to see heroic bis better than a mythic weapon
most sane WoW player
What fight?
vexie
My M Vexie parse last week went from 6 to 10 now
yo myth crafted weapon is better than 665 slots, yeah?
Had to do a car bc my guild is braindead
Scroll up
Unlucky
are you an avatar on pull or 10 seconds before gamer
dats cauldron not Vexie
I think its worth to do 10 seconds before if ur playing arms
oooo yea
ava for every clash is nice if your hitting both consistently
yeah turns out im griefing
Tbh I think I might just play fury for cauldron the 2target feels so fake
idk ish just gapped me so h ard
disagree 
👀
log replay
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on Stix, as arms, do you ghuys iugnore the bombshells till they get gripped in and cleave them down?
xdd
ok do i absolve myself of my duties as trash ball in stix for parse thoughts
or do you charge em and get them down asap
me too
Arms is feeling really bad in raids today. Fury warrior in my guild is 10 ilvl lower than me but beating me on the meters every fight, when it was the opposite situation last week.
insta break bomb on boss when it spawns thats others peoples jobs

did it 3 times 
gamin
PI!!!!!!
@minor gust this GUY IS CHEATING
without asking
Non consensual PI
Guys, i have tier legging of hero track already and i just got myth leggings in vault. but i would need to use a catalyst charge for it to remain in 2 set. the sims is telling me to take a myth track waist. what would you guys do?
do you raid mythic and think you are able to get mythic legs
and is the waist from raid or m+
is there a WA for the tier?
@tacit crystal
sory im raiding
No worries take your time
Authority of the Depths or Radiant Power for raiding?
his entire raid is breathing a sigh of relief right now
i can never make depths sim higher for me, so i just power
@void bay same here, but everywhere tells me Depths
i just do what the sim says
Remnant of Darkness is this trinket cringe? 😢
This happens every season fuck this game
does add damage on the 1st boss count on logs?
seems swapping from 4p to 4p is the only viable thing.
swapping to 2p/2p is a massive DPS loss
678 wep or bis ?
mythic wep
Ive got KUjo trinket in my vault, its not on Bloodmallet (showing up but as 0). Anyone know if its okay or trash?
House of cards 100% but i would just sim it lol. depends if you mythic raid also
i do mythic raid
im think house of cards as well
since its probably more rare than mythic set
especially with catalyst in the game
Would anyone be able to help me with simming myself for my vault?
Does House of Card and Best-in-Slots still incur a short cd on the other? And does the sims take that into account?
With my second catalyst charge I could make a 4 set. But I would alternatively take a myth piece to catalyse instead which would maybe be better long term over a hero 4 set
got weapon in vault, should i send my spark now for arms embelishment or wait for fury 2h ?
I'd say weapon... wdyt fellow rage-starving warriors? 🙂
already got 2P with LFR shoulder part...
Wep and not even close
myth track weapon is in Vault 1 always a no brainer 😄
Does taking a Myth track trinket from the vault make future trinket upgrades crest-free?
Had 0 uptime in game this week duo vacation.. Normal BIS or Heroic chest (not tier), got 0 tier atm :P..
Need 2 at the same ilvl to get future free trinket upgrades to the same ilvl
Hey guys I’m just switching to arms and was wondering is the spiky aoe build or the juggernaut better for the lower end keys?
Collosus yes
What target count do we prioritze overpower over mortal strike in aoe collosus, for sweeping and non sweeping? is there a list somewhere?
u dont
MS gives demo cdr
and practically always there will be a big prio mob that u should be targetting with MS 👍
always get the biggest stick

good morning guys, what shoud i pick from vault, i see that the 2 rings are biss, also i have 2set, shoud craft 629 weapon and pick the chest set from vault or go for rings?
thats a shit vault
Is KUJO trinket any good? Can’t see it on Bloodmallet or any guides
Sim sim and sim :p that will be The answer to about 90% of questiond here today
Someone pin that
people who dont sim are even less likely to check the pins, so it's sadly pointless
In ST boss fights outside of exec window, do we use MS on CD or delay for two stacks of OP?
pin that aswell!
Holy crap, my vault literally makes me depressed, at best I pick a mythic track version of the belt i allready has as hero track
literally the best thing I got was a 0.8% increase 🙃
best in slots 665 seem to be only 1% over my other wep if i upgrade it to 665, so maybe myth track shoulders in anticipation to get a tier drop from raid today to make 4 set is better?
How's arms in m+ rn

im so good at the game
100%
u got what i expecte to gain
but my tactic is simple
i CRAFT weapon in 1 week
then week after i get it in vault
works like a charm
fury offhand!
anyone knows why crit is simming so bad? All guides mention crit > all
I currently have:
9300 crit
16000 haste
11000 mastery
6800 vers
stat prios on guides are for noobs who dont sim
Diminishing returns exists on secondaries and the sim takes that into account
Well it is not that Archimtiros doesnt know his stuff
i would agree if i would already have a lot of crit. but the opposite is the case
Haste is king
the sim is correct
Crazy theres a current mythic trinket and its non existent. K.U.J.O one from Mechagon Workshop
my sims tells me to go mastery though, and I got 10k of it 😛 but ye, trust the sims, its math, math doesnt lie
stat prios are just a thing of the past
problem solved, then ill cry Why do i sim bad
Imma go full mastery, it told me to. And no - I wont do another sim after going a bit of mastery, now all my stats are mastery
Bleed build new meta
boys, big weapon for both, or pick mechano for fury?
Weapon bro
Do ppl not run droptimizer at all nowadays
I'm 100% certain everyone's BiS is a myth track weapon
Only had a tier piece, now a 4p gamer with 2 myth track + 2 heroic track pieces

Surely weapon next vault
Got a Hero track of this in my vault. Anyone know if its good bad or garbage?
it is, on droptimizer, but mechano being BIS 100%...
but yes weapon is the better dps choice atm
Are we dropping bladestorm for ravager at 4pc?
You can for a slightly weaker non-exe but stronger exe phase
Its even in terms of dps afaik
double 2set worth anything? or wait for 4
sim
Does anyone know how I sim a droptimizer with specific stats on the bandit ring
i just simmed and crafted weapon with 636 wrists is better than a 678 weapon
did u sim the myth weapon wtih hc crafted duskthread
and if you take weapon and craft two items?
sim top gear and add the ring with your desired stats
wait youre right i didnt i might be dumb
Do we get second spark this week or next
- why top gear and 2) theres a reason Im asking for droptimizer
Anyone else experiencing Demolish locking you out from using any abilities for a few seconds after its done channeling? Probably due to undermine lag
i dont understand how dumb lucky some peoples are XD
you can just do top gear and compare the numbers

im talking about the ass destruction
I also use a ton of ass destruction on my warrior
nah thats not what his armory page says https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/eu/tarren-mill/Revvezj
next
no its legit
walhe you that are a big brain warrior. would you take myth ToP weapon or delve trinket?
Weapon sims 0.7% upgrade RN
Why does
does the wave scrambler still works to get a map in a 8 delve?
i was using those because of crafted weapon
will change now ofc
decent arms sim now
I would personally be looking at hc/normal reclear
to snag a trinket there
with the argument that you wont need weapon for arms from raid
cuz u got mythic weppy vault
U should be g2g with house of cards or kezan
i would try to get kezan/house of cards/Lock-n-Stalk (this prio)
from raid
and then get mythic weapon
from vualt
🫡
unless you have a chance of killing stix this reset
mythic? not happening
yeah
we are 1.5/8 xD
try to snag one of those three
on hc / normal
grab weppy
u have strong argument for that prio
kezan is pretty bad if you dont mythic raid right
@thick kelpi jump off bridge
i have those bracers
well not anymore
but ye
Did any of u guys cata charge bugged?
??
We only suppose to have 2 charges
How do I get the sim to pick one of each gem for the "meta gem" effect? Or do we just ignore that tiny upgrade and stack one gem as the sim says?
No 1 and then achievement gives you 1
2nd charge is next week
But after raid tonight I went to cata my 4 pc and says I still had 2 charges
Oh wtf
So now I have 5 pc lol
Lmao I wish
I used it just in case blizz fixed the bug
I was gonna save it lol
No one else got the bug?
hey i got amorphous trinked with delv map. with the buffs is this now fine or still shit?
https://www.wowhead.com/news/delve-trinket-hotfix-amorphous-relic-significantly-buffed-375810
sim it
surely the mythic weap is a better pick than this trinket right?
you know I thought getting to 2.6k score in the first week would get me into keys fast, but my god is this taking long, do people hate warriors that much
sad XD
Hey guys i got a myth track weap (with haste versa) in my vault do i now take the weap and craft cloak and wrist with spark or is it better to go for a myth helmet and craft a weap with 2 sparks
sim it
you can add items to your topgear through this.
(its likely that wep + 2x crafts is better - DO NOT DISCOUNT ON SET CRAFTS CAUSE THEY HAVE MORE STATS THEYRE GOOD!!)
!wa
was so hyped about 2 m+10 vault slots...dont really feel motivated to pick a normal mode tier piece tbh...
take cloak and craft my 2nd spark into...something else?
Tyty ❤️
The sim is telling me the ring is the biggest upgrade (1.6%) but rings are easier to get aren't they? I'm only doing m+ btw. Would the trinket in the bottom left be a better choice (0.6% upgrade)? Currenlty using champ rings from delves (funhouse and energy drink).
ok thanks - this what i was thinking but i was not brave enough to do it without asking 🙂
There should be an ai bot which deletes questions that could be answered by simming lmao
were you referring to me?
No in general
ok - because i simmed and was asking if i should go against the sim's recommendation.
Believe me there are hundreds of questions like yours every day
where they have actualy simmed and are asking if they should ignore that advice?
seems like a legit question to me
I was not against you, don’t worry
No, they dont sim at all
its often slightly more nuanced but just lacking context makes the response always be "sim it" cause no one knows anything about what your prospects are for gear
oh ok i can see why that would be annoying.
also, some people like to be told, not figure out
Truest sentence ever
thanks for the advice - im going to enjoy my 0.6% upgrade and not cry over the fact that i didn't get anything new to chuck in to the catalyst 🙂 Love my s1 tier anyway.. not bitter at all.
i did 3 heroic and normal splits in guild with 2set to show for it
bitter is a lifestyle
haha 🙂
I wished I had mechano to pick, I had to pick a hero tier set instead
Granted this means I will have 4 pcs next week 
way to gloat! 🙂
Thing is trinkets are a pain to farm
speaking of simming - im using 1 boss 5 min and 5 boss 2 min and then making a judgement on what to put more importance on. Sound ok?
1 boss 5 is good for ST
its a matter of what sim religion you subscribe to
Pretty much, i do 1boss 5min + 1min 8bosses
ahh ok - there are some specs where they actually use dungeon slice!
Why is importing routes from mdt not the best way?
You need to optimize the APL for that
yah there was a dude doing it for sin rogues.
to hold avatar and CDS, set more specific target counts for what rotation to do etc
sounds like work
check time to die on the enemy
simming keys is always gonna be a toss up because no run is the same except if you're playing MDI or TGP
makes sense.
he's right you know
hello blue spongie !!!
woh - so much spongie
Hello.
Cyan and green exist as well
what's the story?
what do you mean?
behind the cult of the spongie's
oof
the most precious of spongie colours
i think its actually the most fucked up personally. at least the best at piloting a ship that functions on us walking around in hamster wheels
interesting for i have the traditional hamster wheel training while you were running on the left wheel when the objective was to go left
HIGHLY disagree
debate time
spongie clears every time
agreed we do
I literally just woke up what are we segueing about today in arms chat
Anything good from timewalking this week?
Normal cache
Tl;dr average disappointment
Which is actually longer… so not really tl;dr
we didn't get a new catalyst charge this week?
We didn't
i have one spark from last week - do we only get a half spark this week?
Yes
ouch - im going back to bed
i didn't get to raid at all last week and prob wont this week either - stuck with s1 tier.
Easy XP for alts, and the two mounts are pretty neat if you farm enough.
hey, deciding between these two but i got 20+ runs of floodgate without the trinket tho 😄
I see, thx
“Don’t pass on a trinket in a vault” idk where I’ve heard it, but, I have.
Worth converting into tier, or should i go for the other pieces?
worth
Did we get nerfed yet?
Both Arms and Fire mage asking the same question lol
“This is too good to be true, we must get nerfed”!
Well in keys, is it any diffrence as arms if i pop thunderclap to apply rend or bosses? I mean in pure st situations inside keys. Can i just pop tc and unbind rend or we lose something?
Exactly , I feel in danger for how good arms feels rn
My honest opinion is to continue use rend
man i got best in slots in vault wondering if i just send a craft now instead of crafted weapon
decisions decisions
Rend does more ST damage does it not
Rend is better in pure St but if you dont want the extra keybind u can just press tc
Is the arms dream over? Seems everyone is playing fury so far 😱
Why? what changed?
nothing just the streamer vibes
You can just remove rend from your bars to save keybinds.
The application damage is minuscule.
If you’ve been using rend ST/2T with SS and that’s how you’ve been playing, you can keep doing it that way too

Arms on cauldron smokes fury
+1
Is that the case? I tried fury slayer and cleaved the bosses at intermission phase and outdpsed everyone including an arms warrior
I guess it varies on many conditions?
True especially if you do the fight like everyone is 
built different

this just take cloak. i did at least
top22 on mythic cauldron
Collosus ?
what the fuck

yeah just rethought my life and why i even ran +10 while making some food
thinking of crafting belt or boots and ill grab the cloak, thanks
What's going on with Liquid on Sprocket?
american
its so annoying tbh
hows he done that then 😂
I’ve been seen more Fury in raid and more arms in M+
When Fury and Arms do about the same ST dps ofc more people will play Fury
is there a tw raid this week?
are they struggling or something?
true
You are right but cauldron is not a real fight
Yeah none of the first 3 are
The Arms Played bad or you outgeared them shrug
Arms player didnt know the avatar 12s prepull tech
most arms players probable do not pre pull
Rik is real
is it tho?
id say hes def harder then what sikran was
we nearly killed him in a split mythic
but should die p quick
How many pulls
wait what
Is that so it lines for each collision?
4
yeah
Woke
well first clash is around 1:18
Is that actually a dps gain?
One more set of CDS
Practically losing a full avatar sounds cursed
i didnt end up doing this as fury, dunno if L or not
i dont think its worth as fury
But likely only really worth for mythic
but i knew about the tech
AM u do have some cds everytime??
Where the fight is actually long enough
I was nearly 10th on the dps meter before clash, after clash i was 2nd
i think only arms is worth
Wouldnt do as fury since you basically do same dps without picking up WW talents as per logs
i think arms has potential to be crazy, but it also is ver dependant on dps and kill timing
yea kinda figured i'll prolly have reck and bs for each clash anyway
fury is very burr
Arms prolly better this week with "just kill t-rex" tech dead, means another clash
they fixxed that
the bosses enrage now?
Exactly, means more two-target cleave with this week's gear (probably)
the damage ramp seems to be neglible still so at least our guild plans to still focus dino over monkey and then finish off just monkey from 15% or so
You still get Avatar for the entire duration of CS on your opener
Brb telling my RL to make our pull timers 15s instead of 10
That is
Actually an insane strat
I've heard about 3s prepulls
Theres also the 5s prepull Avatar on Rik reverb for both specs
But 12s is new
to line up with canisters
My god
@thick kelp got any starts for one armed bandit 😂
talent long sweep and sweeping strikes 10s prepull to get extra damage on the adds at the start and to have sweep ready for the first adds
Wait what 😂 what is this new tech
if u want to be extra cheesy hold avatar and roar for the add spawns at 20s but I wouldnt recommend this if u lust on pull
But the first 3 main ones
Dumb question sorry for that
Is it worth to always focus lowest HP target?
As in execute phase the assistants while cleaving them on boss?
Smart!
if sweep down I just send add
With hero track gear, is the play to not upgrade at all, or send it to 4/6? dont wanna waste any crests
@austere timber interesting pfp
Farm full 3/6 from dungeons and you should be able to send 4/6 on entire gear this week (with siren isle ring thingie)
sound
core
Noob

Cinderbrew neck sims as downgrade at 655 vs my sikran on arms :)
Get cooked buddy
Actually I havent simmed if it would be an upgrade, hold on
ez
wtf arent they pmuch the same stat distribution
minus the proc
Cinderbrew is more heavy into mast
Dont think you can get more out of than equal dps tbh
you need to have a good haste heavy ring with low mastery for cinderbrew to overtake
Sigil of Algari Myth track or Big Red Button Myth Track or Hero track Reverb Radio?
do we need to worry about keeping 4set active?
Sim angle
Hi fellas, i'm wondering how the hell this trinket can sim so high wtf,
holy +50
Yoink mine
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Steanme?
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Always some fucking idiot
link sim
It just got buffed so its kinda ok but also its an aoe sim which are dubious for trinket decisions
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Good try
Bro link the raidbots sim
need some advice: have heroic pieces in my bags that i can catalyst (have my 2 charges) and in vault i have mythic track gloves and heroic tier gloves as best options. not sure if i should take the myth gloves and catalyst 2 items or take the heroic tier so i get 3p and maybe faster get 4p?
then ? is bad ?
yes
sim
st5min
or like 5t 1min
but dslice is not recommended for now
Can you explain “for now” pls?
Needs like 500 lines of APL to work properly
so before someone does that job its not recommended
DSlice requires a lot more specific work to maintain that a lot of people don’t have the time/interest for
And dungeon route even more so
There’s a way to simulate a dungeon route I’ve just never played around with that
Idek if it works for our class
I learned about from a hunter
that still requires the same optimization as dslice sims would on the apl side
Yeah, it “works” for anyone, but whether their sim is dynamic enough to optimize it is another question
What content do u do?
nah bro is just bis geared 
Now if you just wanna see performance while throwing CDs on cooldown, then sure it works fine, but it won’t intelligently hold CDs for big upcoming packs or anything
If u have patience, and an opportunity to get 4p in raid.
Hands is early as well
heroic raiding and about +10 keys
U could wait. Hmm but gettin4p makes it easier 2 get into keys
Yeah that makes sense, I think the tried and true 1T 5minute and 5T 1minute are still the best
I would prob just get 4p
U are here to play and hf
Why wait
Man.. It’s so criminal when they do not have big 1:30 on use stat trinkets
Miss shard and mark already
All trinkets are 2m

Its bis for locks?
2nd cards went to unholy DK I didn’t mind that one he’s putting it to good use
I have no idea about locks tbh
I don’t pay attention to the wizards
Also bis uh ofc. As they ar3 also 1 1/2m clasd
Kind of curious for simming myself in the future, what do you think is the most accurate way to sim for m+ performance ?
I don’t think “accurate” is really an objective metric tbh
Which I know sounds odd, but the whole idea of M+ is dynamicy - how you pull, how fast you kill with diff comps, how you route from one run to another
All of those things change unless you’re consistently playing with the same group, the same route, and all performing the same way each and every time
What sims do is give you a baseline for comparison, whether it’s necessary “accurate” for how you might perform in a very specific situation (e.g. an individual dungeon) is kinda of secondary; the idea is just to give you a point to measure from
Which is why we usually go with either single target and/or sustained multitarget, get your results, and then extrapolate
There’s absolutely nothing wrong with dungeon slice or dungeon route just throwing everything on cd either… because frankly a lot of players do exactly that (whether they necessarily should or not), even if it’s not the most “accurate” way of measuring optimal performance
Tbh for a lot of people including myself, holding buttons for the “perfect” moment usually nets less damage overall
Appreciate the full on response, just making sure I give myself the best options when gearing towards that goal of m+ performance
TLDR: do a couple of sims, at least just ST and sustained AoE, then apply a little bit of critical thinking to determine how well any differences apply to your goals or situation
I typically send on cd and do my best to adapt to what the pug tank is doing as the key progresses
And you kinda learn when the big* pulls should be so you adapt to that aswell
Like if ST says go full crit, and MT says go heavy Haste, you can decide which of those two things you care more about
You could also decide that just going for haste and mastery is probably a good middle ground for both
Or the same thing with trinkets, etc; I just got Kezans (
) and I know it’s not really the best M+ trinket outside of ideal conditions even without creating a sim that accurately models dropped stacks
Guys what the heck do i do!?!?
The mythic wep sims like 35k more then the best in slot heroic.
can pick the chest and catalyst. Feels like i need to go fury now T_T
When I run droptimizer for 5T 1:30 Patchwerk, it heavily favors the Crit/mastery items
When I run 1T 5minute Patchwerk, it favors the high haste items
(For reference, your gear might be different!)
Weapon angle is really strong, blowing vault on 649 tier seems wasteful
I would take the weapon no matter what personally, and then wait to upgrade it until next week after you either loot a second one from vault or craft one and save the crests on upgrades
You don’t need a 678 weapon for heroic
Probably craft weapon next week if you intend to play fury at all, otherwise just stick with vault weapon and spend those crests on other upgrades yah
But you want two 675/678 weapons next week for the long term game
i would like to not play fury tbh
Then don’t play fury and pick weapon anyway
And upgrade it
All depends on your goals and what you plan to play really
Apply logic for your situation
Then I’d prob take weapon; you can then start using crests/sparks this week instead of next
somones gona tilt from me replacing the best in slot afther 1 raid 😄 . but wep is prob the play for sure 100%
Tier is nice for arms, but you can get it elsewhere and you can get another catalyst charge next week
678 wep > heroic BIS
true, even picked up a lfr tier 😛
Lolol yeah I know that feeling - I got N BiS, then H Gally weapon right after
Fury time for you!
Ez
I guess you could run some sims to see what you gain out of taking something else today and crafting a weapon next week
But taking 649 tier seems wasteful and you can’t get full value out of ascendance without Writhing anyway, which will take 2 more weeks!
I couldn’t imagine taking a 649 item when a mythic 2h is in the same vault
That seems wild
Yeah I’ve been bouncing back and forth
îs this weapon any good?
its okay-ish
feeling kinda doing -dmg since i got it
Deserved
Make sure you are using the STR version and not the INT version
if you press it out of combat its gonna swap to an int weppy
yea i got it on STR
Then rmbr to use the active part too
maybe its just weird bcs i lost the stats from before and now only got haste on use
Yeah, it doesn't have any secondary stats to compensate for the proc, but overall you come out ahead
just a bit annoying to use because it shares a 15s CD with trinkets, so if you're using Priory, House of Cards, etc, you can't stack them
In execute, when you press 2x execute and MS isn’t available yet, do you just OP? or would you just execute other time?
simplest thing to do is just to macro both to Avatar (prioritizing stat trinkets first), and then just use the second with your next CS/damage phase/on CD
nah vendor it
Depends on how much rage you have and if you have an opportunist proc
Wowhead guide should cover that
Lets say I’m full rage
Cant acces wowhead currently
You would just slam then?
Thanks
Colossus smash is a cone?
Hi.
with the M+ build, should i use Cleave in single target?
what about mythic tier bis?
beats any myth weapon
By a decent amount, even for us
Hey guys, any recommendations for my 1st Vault? I currently only have LFR Tier Shoulders. I have 2 charges for catalyzing a Hero Head i have in my bag.
chest or ring
prob chest and catalyst, then hold the rest until after raid this week
I still think weapon is the best possible vault slot no matter what else is in there
Assuming you won’t be killing mythic bandit for a chance at best in slots this week, or anytime soon for that matter
Now the question, did they mean myth track bis or just myth track tier piece
Kind of a curse they named the weapon bis lol
100% weapon angle yes
Thats like >100k dps
cool, i ran some multi target sims and weapon is +415k and tier is +150k and im 0 set
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4h9tDaqKLzAu4tNrUetJc8
Not having tier sure sucks but in any case weapon is the best upgrade you can make
And also lets you craft two 675 pieces
with embellishments
got it, thanks
Its about time 2h crafts cost only 1 spark 
true & real
i have 665 Best-in-slots but crafting two dawnthread pieces is 78.4k dps increase as appoased to a weapon with ascendance is 52k dps
best-in-slots seems shit in m+
why? it's a decently strong on-use, which is generally good for M+
Its like having an another on use for your warbreaker windows
only annoying thing is it shares cd with on use trinket so thats the only negative
Don’t we get gear tokens this season like in the fated season for the BiS
With .5 yes
Fill every slot except weapons trinkets and 1 ring
Anyone got WA for new tier set? Like seeing ur winning streaks, when they die etc.
Any good weak auros for this season or in general that are helpful for arms?
Quickly created this https://pastebin.com/AuiACuQH
Icon glows with stacks >= 8 and plays a cat sound when jackpot triggers
(or the stacks run out ig)
Would it make sense to make a WA tracker for Seaforium and play around its 60s procs
Or just let it do its thing
What do you think the variance would be
Right now I just ignore it and let it do its thing
I probably wouldn't hold things too long for it, but otherwise yeah it's probably going to be a gain (within reason, hitting 5 targets without Seaforum is better than hitting 1 target with)
problem with seaforium is that unless you stop damage, that 60s is undoubtedly going to end up proccing at an inopportune time, like right before an intermission or something
quick sim busted for anyone else?
sim_signal_handler: Segmentation fault! Thread=3 Iteration=0 Seed=16184539066186118016 (16184539066186118019) TargetHealth=0
sim_signal_handler: Segmentation fault! Thread=4 Iteration=0 Seed=2070678606347013690 (2070678606347013694) TargetHealth=0
sim_signal_handler: Segmentation fault! Thread=16 Iteration=0 Seed=6030654656920517727 (6030654656920517743) TargetHealth=0
sim_signal_handler: Segmentation fault! Thread=10 Iteration=0 Seed=13517744603477435471 (13517744603477435481) TargetHealth=0
sim_signal_handler: Segmentation fault! Thread=25 Iteration=-1 Seed=11655914906184245047 (11655914906184245072) TargetHealth=0
SimulationCraft 1100-02 for World of Warcraft 11.1.0.59570 Live (hotfix 2025-03-11/59570, git build HEAD a93b62923a)
Simulating... ( iterations=100000, threads=32, target_error=0.050, max_time=300, vary_combat_length=0.20, optimal_raid=1, fight_style=None )
New to game, does demolish work with sweeping strikes?
Amorphous Relic is great now for delves / M+. the uptime should be higher thnk 50 % in those situations, as long as you go out of combat after each pull... am i wrong?
No
At least i dont think so
Now im questioning my existance
So my existance has only been 50% a lie
should I always look to sweep before doing that?
if sweep is ready then yes
66%
66.6666% recurring
link the sim
I think Arms is probably fine after Execute got got on Patch launch
I think Fury could probably stand a small nerf
isnt arms outperforming fury?
Arms in raid is fine.
is arms not fine in mythic plus atm? was debating to start playing arms as my alt
it's very strong in m+ 👍
hard to learn?
what should i craft with spark guys?
ESPECIALLY Protw
Ye fury is pretty strong
It can seem overwhelming on paper, but in practice you're basically sending your major Cooldowns then pressing Cleave/Mortal Strike
Would you guys take tier chest or gloves if given the choice and the sim is only a 0.05% diff?
chest has more stamina 
Protw will fall off above a certain keylvl
alright! thanks
When u cant just revenge spa.
Is the highest we can get the core amplifier champion track?
you get it on Hero track through complete RNG
should we ever consider using signet of priory if enough people are using it?
via either Delve8 Map Pulls or through your weekly Vault Slot for Delves
ah okay thanks. Champion track will do for now then
PWar definintely needs to get kneecapped, Revenge/Barbaric damage in keys is just ridiculous
Delete this post please
Anyone else notice an upswing in invites this season? I've had a much smoother M plus experience so far
the joys of public perception 
is working now, it was latest that was broken, nightly was working. But I've re-ran like 20 mins later and latest now works, maybe someone tweaked something and fixed it now
Any way to get better in m+? In most dungeons im just on par with other classes and I thought Im doing okay with my rotation - obvsly I am not.
warriors still need Blood Lust
Why do paladins get BR but we can't get lust
There is no plate user with blood lust, it only makes sense
4p aquired
is it big dps increase for arms?
the tier pieces
i come from playing my fire mage and 4P was a 15% dmg increase there xd
15% sounds about right for arms 4pc
Sims say 8% from none to 4pc
Probably fixed before I can use it tonight bummer
What isn't being exploited this patch jfc
only works if you didnt complete the spark quest last week
Needed more time in the oven
Ahh counts me out anyway then owell
i wouldnt exploit, asking for trouble
Yeah I always tell myself that and it always seems to go unpunished
you only have to wait 5 days
Yo! Skipped the siren isle thing...is the ring still bis for us?
aight thanks
You won't replace it until you get a myth track ring probably
what is this shit, require spark is unticked
Turns out I had one of our bis trinkets sold! Thank god for item restoration
what is best to play if you have 2-set arms or fury? i haven't had time to look what is better after you get tier set and vice versa
somone who could give me a quick answer
Did anyone else get 3 cata charges?
would be nice if blizz just gives us a free spark this week instead considering i highly doubt people exploiting this will get punished as its a very easy thing to do
LAZY GETS BUFFED AGAIN YIPIEEE

2250 rio cant get into a 7 floodgate kek
Is the mechanico amplifier still a top trinket? I heard it got nerfed by 5% this week?
5% of the lowest stat
Does not matter
It’s still great
ah okay, thanks
is anyone else finding the arms rotation really tedious ?
Nood question. Do you ever delay MS to get two stacks of overpower buff or execute buff?
Likely has no Combo where it has 3 embelish
Yes, moved to fury , couldn't get a hang on arms
you're right
got my trinket today, just running Mechano + Seaforium in m+ atm
until i get house of cards
Is the damage from the Dreadnaught talent buffed by Colossus Tide of Battle talent? Nvm, seems it is. I see the tooltip number go up with more Colossal Might stacks
Ye that’s my plan too
I got heroic lock n stalk so I’ve been playing around with it but it seems kinda mid
It only does 2-3% of my damage
ngl those are so rare
low key cant wait to craft weap next week
Lucky you grats
Weapon ofc
Nah I’d not waste the runed crests
just gonna cost me some more gold later when i upgrade it to 675 but idc ig
Wait for guilded
This will be me tonight 🙏
Into jail i go
Thankfully I don’t enter jail until Saturday
Raid today/tom
It’s actually a hella fun dungeon imo!
Momma is a awesome pad fight skyrocket big numbers
Doing 50M damage in just two globals is satisfying on momma
You can prep 10 stack demolish and a big collateral off the first pull up the hill
And then absolutely nuke the first 4 adds on momma
Very satisfactory!

I did turn in my quest
Then you can’t do it
I can in alts tho
i wouldnt do it either
theres probably a rollback happeing
or getting remove
which means rip ur gold in mats and tips
And what does one have to do?
Bro wants to risk
Someone posted this in fury chat
Loot two spark halves before turning in the quest
Create the spark
Turn in the quest
Receive two more sparks
Creat the spark
Congrats you now did bug abuse
omg!
<@&257983573498265600>
2 in 10mins
$50 steam gift!
Another one
holy
Free money is just that ez
dude i can never get the free gift card
I would hesitate to call it an exploit outright, but it is absolutely exploitable, especially for alts that are less likely to have turned in the quest last week, which is exactly why WH didn't go into detail on how to replicate it yourself - it's not something that should be encouraged, whether or not Blizzard decides to treat it as an exploit and take action against it
sounds VERY exploiting though, would not risk it just to have a weapon one week earlier
Imagine 4 members of your 20 man raid team go up 3% in damage or something like that
Just totally unfair in regards to hall of fame players
The rest of us it’s kinda whatever
Doesn’t make a difference
I would love to have a myth track wep now, but ye, not worth it to risk a vacation
Have been banned before, though that was to botting as an idiot in Legion (damn those starflowers and all the gold I made daily)
got my self a nice 6 month vacation there 😂
Lucky you it was 6 month and not perma
ye was a very clear part of the ban that said "do it again, we dare you"
they also stripped my account of all gold made in legion
Oooff that’s tough






