fury

[solemn widget]

so the leap skip is just leaping right when it pops?

[sudden tusk]

no idea ive never seen it done

[solemn widget]

ok ill just go void elf

[sudden tusk]

most people just void elf racial out of it

[runic pine]

trolled some damage but is fury just this down bad in keys?

[young swan]

yeah

[runic pine]

[unreal onyx]

Fury in red? Blasphemy

[runic pine]

too many warriors in raid

[unreal onyx]

Hooly based rl

[sullen dove]

cringe ass boss

[radiant plank]

wajajaja

[undone flower]

does bloodlust have a range in raid ? i'm on a casual guild discord, i'm being gaslight you can be out of range of it on cauldron

[remote bobcat]

100y iirc

I might be wrong though

[undone flower]

i'm seeing 200y on the changelogs on wowhead, it is something i never asked myself lol

[hardy bluff]

its raidwide

[smoky vale]

i forgot about keys bud

[young swan]

i was watching the election all night anyways

[hushed ocean]

hello guys, any thoughts on hallowfall trinkets?

[quiet breach]

whats the most deaths yall have had in an m+ before

[radiant plank]

what are

hallowfal trinkets

[remote bobcat]

as a group or as a player

[remote bobcat]

the new nightfall event has armor vendors with some trinkies

[iron portal]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cute-cat-cat-dance-cute-cat-dance-ai-cat-gif-15064057413633942575

behold, dog

[smoky vale]

wat election

[quiet breach]

group

[smoky vale]

150ish

[remote bobcat]

150ish

[chrome plover]

151ish

[warm crag]

4

[remote bobcat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1333755767714611230/0128.gif

5 now

[plush maple]

0

My rage is everlasting

[remote bobcat]

u dont play retail

shush

[plush maple]

I have become a classic Andy

Cool playing older iterations of fury warrior but best one is since BFA

[flat river]

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-sousou-no-frieren-anime-warm-campfire-gif-16192143661019154751

[storm meadow]

quick question : I've sim'd recently with random rings against Cyrcée's ring, and I see that I get +2% DPS just from that. I've also noticed on Details that the contribution of the ring's gems are abysmal now (less than 2% total). But the wowhead guide didn't change the BiS gear. Am I missing something or is it just not updated ?

[sour frigate]

Run all stat gems

[thick fossil]

I don't think anything out classes it till fully upgraded mythic.

[indigo sigil]

FINALLY

[sullen dove]

3088

[indigo sigil]

fury so bad ...

and i play only PUG

[smoky vale]

hi bud

[flat river]

Hi gio

[flat river]

?

[chrome plover]

hi gala

[flat river]

Hello chawie

[chrome plover]

how are you today

[fiery edge]

damn, still no buffs

[pine wagon]

Question for mountain thane spec - when we use raging blow and gain stacks do we dump in a bloodthirst at 75% or do we wait for the empowered proc which lets us cast three consecutively?

[chrome plover]

generally 85%~ or <35% health with vc you send bloodthirst

if by "empowered proc" you mean burst of power, you ignore that

[fiery edge]

hmmm they should make thunder blast proc often

[fading sky]

They should make it slap even more

[fiery edge]

at least boost target cap

[fading sky]

Nah

Once again target cap is low hanging fruit

We just need more dmg from our aoe spells

./burst

[fiery edge]

sustainable burst

[fading sky]

Lol

Those 2 dont connect brother

[fiery edge]

i tried

[fading sky]

Atm we do fine sustain

But when of isnt a thing and roar is weak a f

We will naturally struggle in aoe

[fiery edge]

we gotta do more than fine

[flat river]

bladestorm balanced around ST damage too

[fading sky]

Yeah dno why bladestorm do more dmg when more mobs there

Like cleave talent on col

[thick fossil]

They need to make Blade storm and Ravager better. Uncap, or at least softcap 8, on top of an aura buff.
We just need to either A. be the best at 5 targets, or B. loosen our cool down's caps.

[flat river]

it is softcapped at 8

[thick fossil]

I was more pointing to all our AoE cool down abilities.

[undone flower]

Or they could do a square root cap

[random raptor]

leave caps alone, buff odyns fury and increase damage on our abilities - I want to absolutely roll 5 targets

[undone flower]

Not gonna happen the increase damage on our abilities bc raid

[thick fossil]

If that's the case, they would need to DRASTICALLY increase our 5 target cleave. Which would end up mega boosting our ST.

[random raptor]

Then they just need to buff odyns and buff our aoe ability numbers, which won't affect our ST damage in raid by much at all

[thick fossil]

That is what increasing the cap on it, Roar, spear, would all do. Odyn's Fury was never buffed like they said it would be when they unlinked it to Titan's Torment.

[quiet geyser]

Not necessarily. Could just increase the WW cleave amount

[thick fossil]

You mean Meat Cleaver damage % or just the actual Whirlwind damage?

[quiet geyser]

Cleave damage %

To be higher than 55%

[thick fossil]

Heh, let's go with 75% just like hunter's trick shots.

Also, since that would step on Arm's toes. Let's buff Sweeping Strikes to 90 or 100%

[sour frigate]

trick shots also more targets

[undone flower]

Why not over 100% like in s1 bm hunter were cleaving bosses to do more dmg on him

[woven valley]

https://tenor.com/view/plastic-man-real-real-powder-powder-that-makes-you-say-real-animated-comic-plastic-man-gif-7493651428267836743

[full valve]

real

[flat river]

real

[sly bobcat]

What’s this cooked m+ slayer with odyns fury cook I’m seeing?

[dense elbow]

What about it? There are three builds

[royal copper]

This is gold for Fury AOE pack fights !

[dense elbow]

Never tried to use it. Does it fuck with rampage targeting too?

[royal copper]

Stays on target if active - BUT.. as you know sometimes tanks attend to move like crazy or the target is dead.

It simply just auto-target next target nearby.

[dense elbow]

Fair, guess I will give it a spin. Worst case I might lose a % more DPS, maybe gain one

[undone flower]

I tested it on bandit, it is a little awful the auto switch in some contexts

But not awful awful

my char decide it’s time to hit the boss / or the add when I want to hit the other

[chrome plover]

if ur not in range or the target dies, you'll automatically target the a mob you are facing in range

I can imagine it being a bit finnicky in some situations

I dont use it, but if it was perfect, i probably would

[royal copper]

for now, if you manually select a target. It doesn't change.

[chrome plover]

even if that target leaves your range?

[royal copper]

if its still alive, yes. (not 1000p sure here tho)

[undone flower]

It’s not perfect but like ream says you notice it, and manually select, I don’t see the real point

[chrome plover]

I'm pretty sure when I press a keybind and I'm not targeting anything (target died) it retargets automatically anyway?

[dense elbow]

It does, ye. But this changes if you can't hit anything, right?

[undone flower]

It was the first time I enable it / couple pulls before I turned off again, I can’t say much

[dense elbow]

Also, does it swap and autocast on the new target. Or does it swap, and you got to press twice

[undone flower]

But it is fine on bombs on bandit tho

[dense elbow]

[chrome plover]

idk i spam the shit outta my buttons

[dense elbow]

I played MM for a bit, my fingers and mind are calm

[chrome plover]

dark ranger procs

[undone flower]

Doesn’t mm cast aimed shot with 0.000000001 sec cast time at one point ?

[full valve]

it does funky targetting ye

[dense elbow]

GCD is always there for you, and no haste

[dense elbow]

[full valve]

if u move ur camera that is

or the mob moves

[undone flower]

Or when you charge and are spamming you buttons during the travel time

[dense elbow]

Ah, cause you always oor

Will be fun to try tho

[full valve]

i thought it would fix the "not targetting the mob in front of me cuz theres like 20 and i cant see shit" but it just makes tab targetting kicking so tuff

[dense elbow]

I use focus, so luckily that won't be an issue

[open prairie]

focus kick superiority

[full valve]

what if the one u are focusing is not casting

[open prairie]

someone elses problem

[full valve]

[thick fossil]

Wonder how long the servers will be down.

[iron portal]

Forever please

[royal copper]

Healer issue.. 😎

[full valve]

i love that the requirements to join a fresh raid run is having 8/8 on it

[chrome plover]

less of a big deal earlier in the patch, but people are reclearing for the 10th time and want their run to be smooth

so it's quite normal

[full valve]

would give ffxiv a W this time, cuz they got their shit together with making a distiction of "farm" and "fresh"

[sour tundra]

[thick fossil]

Oh shit, they reverted everyone's rep gains. lol

[calm mantle]

Still no myth weapon or good myth trinket to take 😦

[sour frigate]

Helm for mog

[calm mantle]

lmao, I'm taking belt if I don't get it from raid

[vocal gyro]

jastorante diamondante

[sour frigate]

The ring of balls

[fickle cedar]

viscera moment

[calm mantle]

I'd rather use my hero fun house lmao

[orchid dagger]

Mouseover kick superiority

[thick fossil]

Oooh, I got a big choice. Waiting on Robit to tell me. Prolly HoC though.

[random raptor]

I've gotten socket vault 3 weeks in a row, this is the price I have to pay for getting mythic track weapons back to back week 1 and 2

[ornate gust]

I got 2 sockets back to back. I hope not the third one tomorrow morning 🥹

[modest valve]

Trinket question. 665 Mechano-Core Amplifier or 678 Viscera of Coalesced Hatred? Sims say do not go with the Mechano-Core and that VIcera is far better. Yet, the Wowhead guide says Mechano-Core is BiS. Thoughts?

[random raptor]

Hope you get the juice

[charred flint]

guys im back what is the hottest plater profile and elvui setup xD

[fiery edge]

ugh, no myth weapon

[verbal garden]

How good is Best In Slots? Have the choice between Heroic slots or mythic belt.

[coarse nest]

Myth vault weapon + myth crafted weapon is better

[quiet breach]

yo, got my first socket vault, and i see you can get spark fractures for 6 merits??? can you only get it if u arent maxed out on fractures?

or is it just an extra fracture

[warm crag]

ya gotta sim it king

[sullen dove]

An extra but like silly to buy most of the time

Unless you like have literally nothing to socket

[dense imp]

is there any way to macro best in slots mace to your cds? Every combination of /use 16, /cast 16, /use item:232805 nothing seems to trigger it

[sullen dove]

and would craft something for ilvl

[coarse nest]

17 for offhand

[hardy bluff]

you can pick craft instead of socket if you want

[sullen dove]

Think ur supposed to do [combat]

[hardy bluff]

well half a craft

[dense imp]

oh fuck me forreal? lmao

[coarse nest]

[warm crag]

and you might want an in combat condition for it otherwise you stand there trying to change it to int before a pull

[sullen dove]

17 rly the offhand tho? Thought trinkets are 13/14

Tf is 15 then your tabard or some shit?

[coarse nest]

/use [combat] 17

Ez

I have no idea why it’s not 15/16

[dense imp]

yup that worked

I've legit thought OH was 16 for like the past 20 years

lol

[coarse nest]

Ope

[charred flint]

So am i the only one who cant open plater?

Trying /plater

with updated addon

and it just doesnt work

[undone flower]

You can buy half sparks now ?

[coarse nest]

Always could iirc

I just never have personally

[undone flower]

Nop

At Beginning of season you couldn’t

[sullen dove]

i mean seems oddge to not have it in from start

[hardy bluff]

added in .5

[coarse nest]

Ahh, well there you have it

TIL

[undone flower]

But it is indeed weird to me that you can’t buy from the start

[orchid dagger]

0 = ammo
1 = head
2 = neck
3 = shoulder
4 = shirt
5 = chest
6 = belt
7 = legs
8 = feet
9 = wrist
10 = gloves
11 = finger 1
12 = finger 2
13 = trinket 1
14 = trinket 2
15 = back
16 = main hand
17 = off hand
18 = ranged
19 = tabard
20 = first bag (the rightmost one)
21 = second bag
22 = third bag
23 = fourth bag (the leftmost one)

This is the old one, it might have changed from this

[candid falcon]

not to sound absolutely insane but I miss ammo

[sullen dove]

holy

[candid falcon]

and/or the relic slot

idk I thought it was a neat RPG element

[verbal garden]

I know, the analysis paralysis is real. Though I should be able to buy the weapon at some point.

[candid falcon]

although I guess the relics ended up being a 3rd class specific trinket slot in the end

[sullen dove]

yea kinda borin

just like "exorcism does 3% more damage"

naise

warr/rogue gun cool

[orchid dagger]

Which was fine, except hunters are eternally pissy that Thori'dal was a Rogue & Warrior weapon before a Hunter weapon

[candid falcon]

they probably should have locked it to just Hunters

[orchid dagger]

It was shit for Hunter lol

Shot too fast, fucked up your rotation

[candid falcon]

well sure, but if you're a hunter you'd rather have less competition

[orchid dagger]

You still didn't want it, because it wasn't BiS

[sullen dove]

https://tenor.com/view/how-it-feels-when-you-meme-nanami-jjk-gif-10683277372535996893

[candid falcon]

classic players pretending you need BiS to clear content instead of a toothpick and 3 rolls of duct tape

I wonder, if warriors and rogues still had access to ranged weapons, would there be attacks (like outlaw Pistol Shot) that would let you do something at range during melee downtime

"Really Angry Shot" cmon Blizz lock in

[sullen dove]

i mean outlaw got a lot of gun abilities

and warr could basically just replace heroic throw

[orchid dagger]

Heroic Throw was the replacement for just whipping out the gat you used as a statstick

[sullen dove]

a wrecking shot sounds cool tho

shield break powa

[orchid dagger]

Shattering Throw needs to not have a CD

[sullen dove]

a 3min shield/immunity break should have no cd

[orchid dagger]

Sorry cast time

[candid falcon]

thank god we don't work at blizz

[sullen dove]

realge

[orchid dagger]

IT WAS A MISINPUT

Reeeee

[sullen dove]

i mean kinda like to make it sorta counterable in pvp but idk

like it would maybe be kinda annoying in pally v warrior you know popping a bubble its just instantly gone the moment you do

[candid falcon]

Does Wrecking Throw have a cast time?

[sullen dove]

where u could stop the guy trying to break it

no

[candid falcon]

Okay good

[sullen dove]

but dont pop immunities

mostly just pve use

[candid falcon]

not this tier kekw

[sullen dove]

i mean after buff its kinda nut

[candid falcon]

On gallywix?

[sullen dove]

like 6-8mil a cast or somethin on a shield

gud enuff for gally prolly ya

[candid falcon]

once in the whole fight

[sullen dove]

i think even having it as some extra dmg to throw at boss when ur forced to run away from suppression is nice

like 1mil dmg free from range

assuming u dont give up a ton which raid build usually doesnt matter

[candid falcon]

but that is spicy and it is better than just one heroic throw

[sullen dove]

way better yea

just takes 2 talent points u usually dont take

[candid falcon]

✍️

[orchid dagger]

Wrecking doesn't, Shattering does

[sullen dove]

so having the room to get to it

harder to get in m+ doe

forced to drop like rally or something

[candid falcon]

I only just found out about using all your RBs after bladestorm so im not clued in on the small optimizations

[candid falcon]

any bosses in current season with shields? Ipa, can't think of any others

[sullen dove]

i mean

if ipa got a shield ur group is dead

but last boss rookery usually only

maybe doesnt kill you on a 10 or something but adds should absolutely not touch that boss

[candid falcon]

Good point

Rookery, the only other thing I can think of is the adds in ToP

but like. LOL kick them

[fair swallow]

if i want to accurately sim m+ should i use dungeon slice or would it be better to use another setting on raid bot

[sullen dove]

usually 1t5m good enough, since fury aoe rly close to st, but you can try like 5t5m for like "aoe" stats which may be slightly different

dslice is like the most finnicky and wouldnt say is like the only thing you should sim but if you want next to the other stuff see how it pans out and agrees/disagrees on stuff, really tho not much should change aside from maybe trinkets

[modest hollow]

im gonna craft a new neck, should i add embellishment and infuse with power?

[sullen dove]

but i believe dslice is just like simulating a rly low level key kinda with not a lot of high target aoe

[sullen dove]

cant if u already have 2 embellishments

[modest hollow]

So only the missive? with haste and mastery

[sullen dove]

missive and enchanted crest if u plan to buff its ilvl

not sure if thats what u meant by infuse with power

[modest hollow]

ye

[sullen dove]

but ye can just sim a few diff stat combos of the neck if you want at the ilvl you want it see whats best

makin sure to add 2 sockets cuz thats like 1k gold

[modest hollow]

tyy

[sullen dove]

👍

[warm crag]

:her: 👍

[modest hollow]

im like 664 ilvl, playing MT and got 55% mastery and 26% haste, and finishing dungeon with 2,60m overall dps, rarely dying more than 1-2 times each run

[warm crag]

the fuck

[modest hollow]

is 2,6 low?

[sullen dove]

L

[supple laurel]

Wouldn't it depend on the pull size? I sit at 658ish but able to pull 3.6ish with a nice group that pulls a good amount

[sullen dove]

Yea I mean that is a pretty subjective thing, would think can usually hit 3m a dungeon but I think if you’re like over a mil less than other dps in the group maybe something better could be done

[modest hollow]

should i use Thunderclap or WW to apply multiattack?

[candid falcon]

I be running slayer in keys because I'm a bad person

[random raptor]

You use Thunderclap when playing mountain thane, remove ww from your bars

[modest hollow]

even if i specc improved ww?

[random raptor]

It improves both, so does seismic reverberation and barbaric training

think of your thunderclap as an improved whirlwind

[sullen dove]

clap just fully replaces ww as thane in every way

ya

[random raptor]

that will 100% improve your damage instantly @modest hollow

[candid falcon]

Clap has a cooldown right? Is it possible to run out of ww stacks and not have clap ready?

[modest hollow]

i will try 😄

ty guys

[random raptor]

If you're rotating properly, you should always have stacks as your spells proc thunderblast too

[candid falcon]

and yeah when playing MT, Thunderclap inherits all talents that improve WW

[candid falcon]

Oh interesting

never considered that

[sullen dove]

I don’t think ever u can spend 4 global faster than tclap comes off cd

Maybe wrong doe

[random raptor]

I think you're right, I don't recall running out of stacks in dungeons and don't really think about it compared to slayer MT builds

[feral ivy]

has anyone got the gally ring in vault yet lol

[feral ivy]

so many questions about ur buttons

[candid falcon]

darkness trinket eh

[feral ivy]

oh nvm ur on a mount

[candid falcon]

462 food 0 potions

[candid falcon]

what's up with the mog

[modest hollow]

whats up with it?

[feral ivy]

it doesnt "fit" idk something seems off

female NE shoulders mogs just doesnt look good imo

[candid falcon]

the weapons mostly? The ice glow and the pink hair clash with the low res firelands gear

and the belt clips the pants hard

[modest hollow]

im glad its not a fashion show :p

[candid falcon]

LOL

[feral ivy]

IT IS

[random raptor]

Hope I get mythic helm/chest drop from vexie and sprocket (if I kill it this week)

[candid falcon]

id find a different belt or remove the belt, and I don't vibe with the frost aura on the weapons but like, it's not the worst thing

[modest hollow]

i was fucked by blizzard

[candid falcon]

yeah man you're playing Fury

[modest hollow]

they removed like 40 different two-hand wep

farming Deaht`s bite from naxx now :p

[feral ivy]

crafted wep doesnt sim more than that rik wep?

[warm crag]

craft an offpiece silly

[candid falcon]

time to get Fyralath pal

[random raptor]

Wait this is a good idea, I'm sitting on crests lol

[warm crag]

crafting myth wrists and cloak is dubious at best

[random raptor]

I'm running double dusk, but worth a sim I guess

[warm crag]

those are like week 12 post prog crafts

[random raptor]

Still have 2 spare sparks tbf

[candid falcon]

nice drip pal

[warm crag]

hold on let me get my looking glass

[candid falcon]

im on mobile so this is the best I got LMFAO

[warm crag]

isnt this a full set and you took the helmet off and put non matching weapons on it

[feral ivy]

it might be ur chest piece doing it but i would change w/e the red arms is

[candid falcon]

nah it's a mix of sepulcher tier and the mage tower armor set

[candid falcon]

will look into it

[feral ivy]

this my fav mog so far tho

[sullen dove]

oh nah

bro larping as the stonewright from revendreth

[feral ivy]

bis transmogs tbf

[chilly fractal]

ah yes...

an upgrade for 1 week

[dapper goblet]

goober swordish shouldnt be allowed to buy bis gear off a boss he didnt suffer on

[nimble kraken]

the pants, they haunt me further

[dapper goblet]

ip grabber

[sullen dove]

real

vault has been voodoo’d

opened in resto loot spec gg

[humble lark]

gonna gear my warrior up. is fury behind arms by alot in keys?

[fresh jay]

Weird it had me @somone lol

[plush zephyr]

Yup

[fresh jay]

arms is typically better and easier to do in keys, but fury isn't bad you just won't do well on big pulls like arms. just depends on the playstyle that you like

Group comp helps too

[plush zephyr]

I got another mythic weapon

[daring laurel]

fury owns

[plush zephyr]

I mean

I have to play Fury

right?

[young swan]

if u want to

[plush zephyr]

I do

Blizzard is telling me to

this is the sign

[nimble sphinx]

So my friend is a boomie and hes simming 3 diff trinkets and only swapping them around comes out on top?

[sullen dove]

I mean usually means using the first one with your cds is better or something

Don’t exactly remember what the flarendo shit did would assume signet better but shrugge

[summer quail]

it's just margin of error

[ornate gust]

Why you want to gear him? Play another class?

[sullen dove]

Wouldn’t say 1.6% is Margin of error…

[north geyser]

does bloodthirst become better than raging blow if you have the proc from thane that makes it no cd and more dmg?

or do we still just use raging blow as much as possible?

[marble pilot]

I still only use it when the crit weakaura tracker says too. Though I do feel like I click it more often as thane.

[fading sky]

Fury is pretty bad

Wont matter in a 10

[sour frigate]

Yes

[marble pilot]

I feel like I should learn arms. Im just so used to fury. And been doing +10s lately. It is sad sometimes on the larger pulls. But im still doing fine overall

[summer quail]

no i mean the 2 that are 1.6% are margin of eachother

[hardy vault]

hey ! with 130rage and 2 stack of rb, rampage or rb ?

[random raptor]

Is it worth swapping cyrce's circlet for mythic ring + heroic jastor? sims say its a 4k dps increase

[sullen dove]

if it upgrade it upgrade

cyrce is just a stat ring now so if ring with better stats replaces it we ball

[smoky vale]

swordish

help

[random raptor]

I'm just curious if its worth swapping out for 4k dps since I'd lose the health right

[smoky vale]

how would you be losing stamina

[random raptor]

wait nevermind, you right

[earnest canyon]

Swordfish, help, I'm stuck in the bathroom

[random raptor]

fish

[twilit timber]

Got my hero track mechano core from the vault :D

[fading sky]

Jastor is so good

[hollow bramble]

which ring should i go for they are simming quite close

[fickle cedar]

if you aint killing mythic gally then you can probably get the footbomb and 2nd or 3rd dinar hc jastor I suppose

[hollow bramble]

5/8 mythic im eventually killing gally worth getting jasters now than?

[fickle cedar]

although i have no idea if jastor 665 > cyrce 658

no idea tbh, up to you at this point, maybe you get hc jastor in guild runs

[hollow bramble]

true thankyou

[plucky wedge]

for OAB which setting do i put it on

the aoe or st one

[young swan]

set it to st and forget it

[open wigeon]

What do you mean by easier?

[plucky wedge]

oh true would you do the other one in keys or nah

[young swan]

would recommend just using a different trinket in keys

[plucky wedge]

yeah ez got H HoC

[young swan]

perf

use that

[plucky wedge]

ty ty

[young swan]

u could even use HoC on bandit if u want

[plucky wedge]

brand new trinket so got to at least try it haha

[young swan]

fair play

[plush maple]

Do fury warriors have any issues getting into +10 keys assuming they aren't undergeared by a significant margin

[full valve]

[dense elbow]

Ye, it is a bit rougher than the popular DPS specs, but it isn't especially harder. You still will eventually get invited if you overgear the content and got at least 12s done

[plush maple]

Will you still have a hard time if you incrementally go up key levels, lets say you start by doing all of them +2 and then +4 or +5-+6 if you gold timed them, is this a reasonable plan?

[candid falcon]

yes, so run your own keys

(if you can)

[plush maple]

Damn alright, thank you!

All of you

[candid falcon]

unfortunately fury just isnt meta in m+ which means its hard to get in

[dense elbow]

To get in as DPS on the regular you need to be ahead on Gear and Score.
To get ahead:
a) Do your own key
b) Go tank to get into others key

[gusty compass]

What is Council gil for enchant for weapon?

[candid falcon]

but 2-10 is easier this season

[candid falcon]

can you explain what you mean

"council gil"

[plush maple]

Gear is very fair but I think score is funny because how do you get higher score than needed if you don't get into gets that get you higher unless you go meta specs etc haha, it's like irl with job applications requiring years of experience in entry level jobs

[gusty compass]

Saw some warriors have it enchanted on weapons

Looks like a arms enchant

adds crit

[candid falcon]

Oh, Council's Guile

[dense elbow]

It is because there is an overflow of DPS players, so you just pick the best of the bunch. The best of the bunch is ahead.

[plush maple]

Very fair

[candid falcon]

it's the 2nd best simming enchant for 5 target, so it's possible that you're seeing people with really high haste switch to the crit enchant because they need more crit?

[full valve]

bruh i already bought authority of depths dont make me go broke

[candid falcon]

0.6% dps difference

[full valve]

alr then

[candid falcon]

https://bloodmallet.com/chart/warrior/fury/weapon_enchantments/castingpatchwerk5

[full valve]

i gotta say i starve haste tho

[candid falcon]

if you're raiding you may as well use depths since it's the best there

[full valve]

my crit pretty beefy

[knotty oracle]

can any big strong warriors review my logs in the logs channel and tell me what im missing/doing wrong?

[candid falcon]

playing fury /s

post it though, someone smarter than me probably knows

[ashen socket]

Anyone know if the ring ilvl cheese still works?

[upbeat blade]

I did it this season, but that was about a month ago now

[spiral orbit]

it works as of two weeks ago

if you re talking about the deleting circe circlet one

[ashen socket]

Nah

Talking about the crafted one

Where you craft a max ilvl ring

with the wrong stats

equip it

[hardy bluff]

thats fixed

[ashen socket]

then recraft it

Rough

[hardy bluff]

it used to work on anything btw

weapons

[sullen dove]

nah how is a crafted ring 2k worse than cyrce 20 ilvls lower

this shits rigged

get this thing off my character

boutta have to sim recrafting like all my gear to make this shit work huh

[warm crag]

you are a fury player!

[sullen dove]

furyge

recraft all 3 still no 😭 fuck this ring man

suppose just make an armsge ring i guess even tho one drops off the second boss

[plush maple]

Blessed be thee

[cosmic void]

Hi, did not play fury for all TWW. Is Powerful enrage the to talent for Mountain thane m+ nowadays?

Or is Frenzied just as playable?

[smoky vale]

play what you like the difference is minimla

can also sim to see which does more for your character

[keen dove]

when u swap to powerful enrage from frenzy its just becomes unplayable for me

playing with frenzy is just so smooth

its just permanent pi on you

[candid falcon]

you will equip the cyrclet and enjoy it, says big blizzard

[undone flower]

wtf is that

[sullen dove]

idk russian or some other cyrilic shit

im sure hes a nice fellow

[whole yacht]

so i have 665 lock n stalk, 665 eye equipped. and 665 house of cards in vault. should i take HoC and use it over one of the other 2 in keys?

[sullen dove]

i mean prolly over eye unless they dungeons u can keep it up easily/tank chain pulls

[whole yacht]

so i should run lock n stalk in aoe mode, with HoC

[sullen dove]

prolly most reliable but eh

[whole yacht]

but eh?

[sullen dove]

i mean idk some ppl dont like locken as much

i think its fine on aoe

like 3-4% of dmg maybe

[chilly fractal]

In 2 weeks with the Turbo boost I believe 681 rings win out

[sullen dove]

yea

[chilly fractal]

Crafted

[whole yacht]

thank god i can get rid of that siht

shit*

[spare steppe]

i like my circe's ring

[whole yacht]

im so tired of circe's

i hate gimmick rings

[chilly fractal]

You want more stamina

I get it

[spare steppe]

its a free, effortless ring that I give 0 shits about until jastor or a lucky mythic vault

[whole yacht]

"hahaha go farm this shit on this random island that will be useless in a month. and wear this ring for 2 seasons"

i already have jastor

[spare steppe]

sounds like a first world problem then!

[whole yacht]

true

[spare steppe]

I realistically will grab a heroic jastor and then look at it more sadly

[full valve]

i had one on mugzee spam "church man go pew pew" and chinese letters

[past pivot]

I was able to score a miniature roulette wheel with haste/mastery so happy to retire Circe for it. The +1 luck is worth it

[whole yacht]

you mean this thing

?

[young swan]

no leech

shard it

[whole yacht]

honestly.

[past pivot]

Speed > leech if you have +1 luck. 😄

[whole yacht]

what even is the luck thing?

[sullen dove]

always spin jump as elf

[whole yacht]

thats

garbage

i hate that

[chilly fractal]

What do you like?

[last sparrow]

Nothing

Apparently

[fickle cedar]

fun hater

[plush zephyr]

It makes vulperas always front flip

Do you hate that more

[fickle cedar]

It should make you rolls hit +1

[sudden tusk]

@sullen dove

[whole yacht]

yes

[young swan]

adventure quest worlds

[sullen dove]

@sudden tusk

[sudden tusk]

#off-topic

[full valve]

im never clicking that again

[narrow narwhal]

How is Banezi

[thorny peak]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4CgYBXustChpfkkcVvLMvB

why does signet sim so badly?

[woven valley]

Probably cause 2 minute trinket

[thorny peak]

thats what i was thinking wished a weapon had shown in the vault tho

[oblique trail]

free

[narrow narwhal]

Did you escape WoW

[woven valley]

Yeah a heroic suspicious drink was better for me than a fully upgraded myth signet

Made me sad

[oblique trail]

yes

killed gally then unsubbed

[charred flint]

are legendaries still in the game?

just got back

after rasz

[oblique trail]

they are but not in the current expansion

[narrow narwhal]

poggies

[oblique trail]

last legendary was in amirdrassil

[charred flint]

thank god so no crafting stuff ?

[oblique trail]

We still have embellishments

And crafting in general is still very worthwhile

[charred flint]

fuck finished campaing but not 80

guess should've done some more quests

[dapper goblet]

banezi quitting for the 9th time in 2 expansions

goober swordish shouldnt be allowed to buy bis items off a boss he didnt suffer on

[knotty oracle]

any big strong fury warriors can give advice on why low damage in help and log review please i beg

[tidal kindle]

Anyone got a weakaura that tells you which mechano stat procced

[tidal kindle]

Did you watch our suffering

Last night

...deserved

(Not by me though)

[dapper goblet]

idk what guild you're in

[tidal kindle]

Abrasive said he had infinity crowd watching stream last night or smth

Figured maybe you part of that

Maybe he say incarnate actually

[summer quail]

no, but i suppose you can just have your stats showing and then you know?

[sudden tusk]

end of tier hate watch is a guild activity

[summer quail]

i know which mechano has procced for me tho. if my bt crit% goes up then it's crit hahah

[tidal kindle]

I was in a key and pressed BIS durnig haste mechano so many times

[summer quail]

would you cancelaura the mechano then? coz otherwise you're just holding bis

seems like a lose lose situation if it procs haste and you have bis up no?

[tidal kindle]

The haste just means I get reck back faster and I can sit on BIS

[summer quail]

have you tried lowering your haste

[tidal kindle]

WIP

[summer quail]

assuming you run cyrces you can manipulate som stats around by unequipping with certain items.

[modest condor]

i remember when tenderize got changed to 6 second enrage and i came up with meme low haste fury (it was bad)

[tidal kindle]

I'd have to recraft a bunch of stuff to verse/mast but then arms ifeels poopoo

[summer quail]

what stats does cyrce give you?(the highest stat gem thing)

[tidal kindle]

Depends on

What my alch flask is currently prccing

I could just play mast flask perma

[summer quail]

coz i unequip and equip it based on spec. it grants me more haste as arms and more haste as fury

[summer quail]

nono, the gem is based on what your highest was when you equipped it

[tidal kindle]

Oh

I'm using uh

The other one

150% proc thgingy

[summer quail]

so like if mastery was your highest stat and you equipped cyrce it would grant you more mastery. or if haste was your highest it would grant you more haste

[tidal kindle]

All I'm hearing is I need mugzee neck instead of cinderbrew

[summer quail]

so here i have more haste, coz i equipped it in high haste gear.

and here more mastery. you can see i have no buffs

[summer quail]

i mean you just do whatever you need to swap them around. i just swap a ring before i equip cyrces

[oblique trail]

so true

[modest condor]

i hope i can find the power to quit one day

[full valve]

https://tenor.com/view/klasik-clasik-clasic-gif-25398314

[whole yacht]

i just accidentally removed a weeks worth of guild events

felt awkward. didnt know what to do or say

so i gquit without saying anything

[young swan]

[charred flint]

k got to 80

should i continue campaign

what should i do now

[whole yacht]

immediately go into keys

trust

[charred flint]

is shadow isle good? what is it

[thick fossil]

I am out of Sprocket jail and into Bandit jail.

Mythic BiS before chips? maybe

[smoky vale]

what happened bud

[lyric compass]

since 11.5 has anyone else their whirlwind tracked stacks lower on the last hit of rampage. its throwing me off

[vague sierra]

ya it's a blizz change

[lyric compass]

ok so im not crazy

[whole yacht]

Brother I have no idea. I'm tired af. Next thing I know i removed guild events. Panicked. Left.

[remote zephyr]

anyone play both specs, what do you prefer on one armed bandit?

[thick fossil]

Fury for the extra tankiness.

[full valve]

arms cuz its better to use both hands on the sword

[plush zephyr]

Personally would go looking into LFR and seeing what raiding is all about and expand your horizons

Also explore weekly quests, catalyst, upgrade system, sparks, crafting, etc.

Take your time:)

[floral frigate]

i know this is off topic but did they change the mountspecial for the gob trotter mount, like its not shooting its guns anymore?

[soft merlin]

blizzard sucks ass with the puzzling cartel chip changes wtf is that

[sullen dove]

lets nerf this spec

[violet condor]

too many people play it tbh itll never be below A+ tier ever again probably

[vague sierra]

lots of people play this spec and it sucks LOL

[woven valley]

tonight was a good raid night so far. got tier shoulders and rik neck off same kill

feels good

[real crest]

hey so im semi new to wow and having my first full on warrior build on fury which is fun but im having trouble with pvp and keeping up with the game and honestly i need clarification on everything someon got some tips

[woven valley]

pvp is entirely a different game than pve, id reccomend looking up povs of pvp warrior players for a better idea on pvp

pve wise the guides in this disc are good. and should talk about rotation and talent builds for most content if not all

[real crest]

okay maybe ill try out some raiding then cause pvp is pooing on me all the time i just button spam and maybe pve will help me learn a little

[woven valley]

pvp also takes gear. when you dont have gear you get absolutely smacked

i know im not a pvp player and with my half conq set ive been having fun

[sullen dove]

there is also a #pvp channel can ask more specifics in

[plush zephyr]

Honestly, if you enjoy pvp, I would go to the #pvp channel and ask how to get better. They're actually a really helpful group.

Actually might be cooking getting into pvp before pve as a new player.

[full valve]

turns out there is a big reflect this season

[sullen dove]

prolly multiple if you trust your tank

last boss mechagon is pretty good

[full valve]

in floodgate the add that casts "bloodwarp" or something like that, u can reflect that shi for 7m

but u have to taunt

[sullen dove]

noice

[modest condor]

that's like half a peacekeeper reflect

[fickle cedar]

tank doesnt taunt back

[modest condor]

also knowing m+ players that's gonna be the only kick they do in the whole dungeon

[fickle cedar]

i would use the spell reflect /say macro but i dont like spamming lul

[modest condor]

they will still kick it

hell, half the time i call it out on voice it still gets kicked

[full valve]

i wouldnt trust taunting an add for my tank to notice and taunt back after

but on coordinated gaming mayhaps

u can also reflect the well of darkness targetted swirly from the ToP wizard man boss and avoid it completely (found out by accident)

[charred flint]

Oh you got me wrong, i raided before, just wondering about borrowed power and if theres stuff i should do

I have some experience with mythic raiding, but no guild now and no friends playing so i wonder what i should do or its just gearing up.

[fickle cedar]

get the ring from siren isle and gear up with the new event in hallowfall

[full valve]

is it just me or this only has 1 stat? lol

[rocky locust]

https://wago.io/0uI91uATk
For this WA, it says "when Execute is castable". Couldn't you just look at your action bar and see if it's gray or not?
Or is this WA supposed to tell you when you should cast it?

[fickle cedar]

yeah its normal, big vers stick

[young swan]

literally only appears when ur supposed to cast it

[full valve]

that tells u to press it when:
-execute proc about to fall off
-juggernaut stacks about to fall off
-slayer stacks are capped (3)

[young swan]

afaik anyways

[charred flint]

ty bud

[full valve]

doesnt have to do with % health at wich u can start using it, it only works for slayer

[rocky locust]

So if I'm understanding correctly, there are times when Execute is castable, but you don't want to press it (or would rather press something else). This aura tells you when you can and should cast it, right?

[full valve]

as slayer u are supposed to hold execute until those conditions are met to avoid bad RNG and maintain as much juggernaut stacks as u can

so yeah u dont press it until the supreme leader WA pack tells u to (if playing slayer)

[fickle cedar]

yeah execute is not high prio unless those conditions are met, unless you got nothing to press you usually dont press it

[rocky locust]

XD okay thank you

[full valve]

it has less vers than my other items with 2 stats

[fickle cedar]

well yeah i mean compared with other capes, it simmed pretty well for me when i had it

[chilly fractal]

Killed the ol’ Sproketmonger tonight finally

On to One Arm… not looking likely to kill before the dinar is out 😦

[young swan]

yeah it sucks unless if you have 3 stacks of marked for execution

[summer quail]

cape and waist are margin. think i just take cape

[ornate gust]

Finally good trinket at the end of the season 🫠

[edgy widget]

end? we're like halfway through at most

[edgy widget]

I took cape for funsies a few weeks back, it's not amazing, but it's neat

[onyx summit]

im stuck

😂

sim is saying bis mace for off hand but my heart is in cards what should i do ?

[edgy widget]

H Slots isn't that good if you have access to M and crafted weapons

[rigid stirrup]

cards all the wya

[ornate gust]

I mean when I kill Gllay, it is over for me. I don't min max my gear anymore

[onyx summit]

main hand is crafted but off is still hc

[summer quail]

unironically it prob would have saved me atleast once

[edgy widget]

I used it a decent bit on mugz

[summer quail]

yeah i can see it, risky charging after him

[edgy widget]

but being a 2m cd, it's one of those things where you can either get too used to pressing it and it's not up or you always save and never use it

na more for catching bombs on Mugz, the charge isn't too bad as long as you charge after he stops moving

plus you can only use cape on one of the three, which is kinda pointless imo - if you're gonna have to do it twice, might as well just do it all three times

[rose bay]

i use the cape to wipe faster

Skrrrrr pshhhhht

[ashen tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/well-there-it-is-jeff-goldblum-gif-14058551

too bad this shitty bugged achievement still hasnt given me my crest reduction

[fresh mango]

Bruh

[oblique trail]

owned

[ashen tendon]

upgrading a 1h didnt do shit either

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-anguish-despair-gif-13915908866750092639

hate this game

[oblique trail]

owned x2

[ornate gust]

😂

[lapis hearth]

week 4 in a row i get shite >.<
or should i upgrade something?
this is my gear right now https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/eu/silvermoon/Rústÿ

[thick oar]

678 ring + 665 jastor is simming higher than cyrce, rip 658 ring never forget

[fair cairn]

hard choice or not ?

[radiant plank]

Not

[remote bobcat]

what do you consider hard choice here

[fair cairn]

go for pacemaker ?

[tidal kindle]

Ofc it's pacmak

[dense elbow]

I mean, the gold seem tempting

[tired root]

guys at m what % of mastery we should stop, i know we need to seem but rougly is there any number atm?

[forest owl]

do we have a full spark this week or nah?

[smoky vale]

there is no number you just equip the gear that sims best for you

[sour frigate]

60-70

[chrome plover]

14000 mastery

[marsh current]

Hey guys,
What is the reason we don’t play Odyns fury anymore?
I can’t imagine that like 2 points in other stuff mean more dps than this?

[polar narwhal]

It was nerfed into Oblivion.

[chrome plover]

it shrimply does less damage

[iron portal]

Unless you are Loboz

Dont play OF

[gleaming siren]

Loboz build

[sour frigate]

🙏

[remote bobcat]

its shit

TLDR: our base damage got increased so much that it's way better taking base-damage increasing passive nodes than extra active buttons

also OF itself got nerfed

[marsh current]

So, basically Loboz is trolling? 😄

[chrome plover]

he is intentionally doing less damage than he could be because he enjoys (i assume) playing with OF

you could say the same about noxiv in +18s

if that is your definition of trolling

[marsh current]

How is noxiv doing less Dmg?

[remote bobcat]

yo i think this prio list broke, why is juggernaut next to vicious contempt there

[chrome plover]

by playing fury

[marsh current]

Ah, got it. 😃
Seems to work wonderfully tho.

[remote bobcat]

also i just noticed, why is it juggernaut when it should be ashen jugg

[chrome plover]

it used to say something about executing before aj falls off next to execute

some formatting has gone fucky when these "?" boxes were added i reckon

[warm crag]

Ok but hes also perfect at it so he will have 99.9% of noobers beat

Source: i am a noober

[chrome plover]

yeah i wasnt saying i agreed that he was trolling

ofc he can do whatever he want and beat 99.9% of noobers

(i am also a noober)

[lapis hearth]

someone? >.<

[unreal sedge]

Sim it

[undone flower]

In 2 weeks there is no crest cap anymore, you will be capped by the number of myth track items you have on you

And there is the half spark option

[lapis hearth]

How to sim it when its not mine yet? And also how to sim it on max lvl?

[undone flower]

I type /simc with the vault opened and I upgrade them on raidbot

[unreal onyx]

holy

[fiery edge]

damn, who is this loboz guy going OF slayer build?

[fading sky]

❤️

[pliant summit]

yeah i want in on that aswell i thought OF was a cool ability

[unreal onyx]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/sdXTC8KtpgxTXqVRGdy1qZ pacemaker as good as mechano-core?

[sour frigate]

U have like 50% uptime of bonus crit so why not

[unreal onyx]

thought it was like THE trinket to get

[fading sky]

Core simmed a bit higher than intended

so it isnt Quite as insane as we though

[still ibex]

Well it did sim as intended, but wasn't working as intended. They fixed that you can't benefit from highest/lowest secondary buffs at the same time (they overlap each other)

[unreal onyx]

so I got hyped for no reason

damn

[remote bobcat]

used to be before nerfs

Sadge

[slim pollen]

That sounds a bit backwards to me. Wasn't the whole thing that in sims it would stack both buffs while in game, it overwrites the buff instead?
Aka, simmed better than it actually performed, weaker than first thought.

[still ibex]

I think I used to have 2 buffs, but my mind may be deceiving me

[chrome plover]

interesting

665 mechano beats all 678 dungeon trinkets for me (apart from viscera of coaelsced hatred is like 2k upgrade)

I think I'd replace it with myth hoc for situations when I'm running kezan

and never replace it for dungeons

[still ibex]

I think that variance depends if your lowest stat is crit or vers

[chrome plover]

yeah my sim has big uptime on vers/mastery and really low uptime on haste/crit

[tired root]

why certain guides say that few bis items for fury are versa/mastery ones Oo

[tired root]

👍

[dense elbow]

Because depending on your stats, versa is good value?

[tired root]

is primary stat still n1 to follow even in mid patch?

[chrome plover]

sims are n1 to follow brother

[still ibex]

Becouse the rest of that BiS list has a lot of mastery/haste - for example if you have full BiS in bags except 2 items (one 678 and one crafted) - the one 678 you could got with mastery/vers instead of mastery/haste (that was in BiS list) then you can craft haste/mastery instead of vers/mastery and you will sim very very close to BiS sim. But that's just very simplified version of that becouse most likely none has more than 3/4 "BiS items" so sometimes you may even craft with crit if you have 0 on your gear.

Primary (str) may be worse than secondary for fury when you are high ilvl comparing 1 main stat = 1 secondary

[thick fossil]

Your gear is always changing, so different items will sim better or worse. Just remember ilvl > most things.

[chrome plover]

all u need is raidbots.com and the simulationcraft addon

let the robot guide you

[remote bobcat]

BIS item lists are really bad without context, all they tell you is the theoretically best combination of items, while other very different sets of gear are usually only slightly behind within error margin. You should never go for specific items on a BIS list because "its in the BIS list".

Obviously some special items are BIS because nothing comes close, like the jastor diamond

[dense elbow]

What if it is a Legendary Axe level item?

[remote bobcat]

but thats a different story

[dense elbow]

[thick fossil]

If it's a item that has a very unique factor, IE Jaster Diamond, BiS Mace, than yes, 100% always try to pull that ASAP.

[remote bobcat]

Yea but even then it needs context. HC Best-In-Slots isn't as good as a crafted weapon or mythic weapon from vault

99% of the time

[tired root]

ty for detailed explanation, makes more sense all now

[tired root]

gotcha ! ty

[remote bobcat]

I heavily heavily recommend learning to sim your character properly, it's a daunting task at first so feel free to ask for simming guidance

we're all warrior mains happy to help

peepoCute

[clever belfry]

@oblique trail hewwo

[still ibex]

What do you think of Reverb Radio trinket? Just feelings, no robot numbers involved

[thick fossil]

As mentioned ilvl is king the vast majority of the time. Though yeah, everyone should be simming any gear choices.

[thick fossil]

About the same feeling as Pacemaker.

[remote bobcat]

not a fan personally

[thick fossil]

Neither are very interesting, but at least they both have decent uptime.

[still ibex]

I have this week to choose between Mechano and myth chest and options are that I have 150 crests which let me afford those options:

With optimized enchants/gems they will be within margin of error. It's either chest + 678 Reverb or crafted chest + 665 Mechano

[remote bobcat]

idk what ur prog is lookin like so u might wanna take vault items with either prog in mind or dinars in mind

[slim pollen]

I would do a map delve before anything else in that situation. You might end up getting the mechano as your hero piece there.

[still ibex]

I did. I got champ Mechano from gold pile after killing Underpin, then champ Lens from bountiful coffer... And hc ring with proper map chest. I wish I could get that hc mechano that way since the beginning...

[thick fossil]

I'd be happy with a heroic energy drink.

[bronze badge]

is there a rage bug on pull atm?

[remote bobcat]

if ur at 79, ur too slow

[bronze badge]

with ava?

[remote bobcat]

reck charge ava rampage

if the entire sequence is too slow, you end up at 79

also if you reck before pull gets you in combat, u also dont have enough rage

[chrome plover]

if you press before your guy is in combat it will drop to 79 instantly

[remote bobcat]

i miss immediately enraging from ava odyns

Sadge

[chrome plover]

i put a heroic throw in the air 1gcd before pull starts on a lot of bosses

[forest owl]

anyone know what the max ilvl of dinar items is going to be?

[bronze badge]

can i link u a log and u look at it?

[remote bobcat]

yuh

[bronze badge]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/H4VN3JhTcZBgGDXF?fight=29 legit never had opener problem before

[remote bobcat]

I mean yea, took you 0.9 seconds to go from recklessness to arriving with charge, I presume thats why you pressed bloodthirst

cuz "wtf im not at 80 rage"

do what Chawie mentioned, use heroic throw to start combat

it's almost never bad

[bronze badge]

to far from boss with charge then?

is that what u mean to slow

[remote bobcat]

or you can macro reck+charge+ava technically, you will never miss 80 rage that way, a button you only pop on fight open

[bronze badge]

yea idk my brain off or something thanks

appreciate it

[remote bobcat]

max range charging is never smart anyway

im not sure if that caused it but it could have

i personally try to min-range charge whenever possible

[bronze badge]

yea no priest / cloak trying not to cringe pre pull timer

that would be it then

[remote bobcat]

this is what my opener usually looks like

you had 25% longer delay from reck to charge than me

took me 0.15sec while it took you 0.2 sec

i guess that also adds to it

shrug

[bronze badge]

confirmed charge range

[remote bobcat]

no i meant the initial button press took you 25% longer

or w/e

[slim pollen]

You have to kill specific bosses to unlock items this time.
If you kill a boss on lfr, normal or HC, it's gonna be hero track, if you kill them on mythic, you can buy myth track.

[bronze badge]

yea thanks for looking

im saying the charge range is why i wasnt getting it

[plush maple]

Orc brother

[remote bobcat]

YOU DONT PLAY RETAIL YOU ARE NOT A BROTHER

go to #vanilla-discussion or #mop-discussion

Angry_cat

[plush maple]

And why is there two charge instances? Is first one the initial press and second the hit after reaching target?

[remote bobcat]

yes

[plush maple]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1217844890134646847/1367028360731168850/image0.gif

[chrome plover]

you pressed reck too early

you need to start your opener half a second later or send a heroic throw or smth just before pull

because your guy isnt hitting and rage naturally decays instantly

[sleek zenith]

what would be better for fury M+ house of cards HC or pacemaker myth track

[flat river]

pacemaker

[sour frigate]

if u dont have 1.5 trink house better

[flat river]

but u can farm house

cant get mythic pacemaker

without vault

[chrome plover]

one has 1 chance a week

and one has 2 chances a week

wdym "farm"

[unreal onyx]

farming house is a bit of an overexaggeration

1 kill per week

you can farm hc pacemaker, but not myth

[slim pollen]

One has 1 chance a week
One you can buy in 2 weeks

[unreal onyx]

you have 2 shots at hc house per week but only 1 at pace myth

[oblique trail]

@clever belfry henlo

[flat river]

https://tenor.com/view/ъъъ-ььь-твердый-gif-4586402441308420405

[timid meteor]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dJGCAvHUT9tg51ezUJdwgp

anyone able to help what to choose here? Mister Lock-N-Stalk is ofc better for ST bosses, but isn't Pacemaker just better overall? My guild and I are currently progressing Bandit on mythic

[chrome plover]

yeah the difference in st is pretty minute i'd probably go with pacemaker

[remote bobcat]

imo if you're still progging mythic, go whatever is the highest ST

[cold cape]

I've never simmed my character before, how do we use that website to swap trinkets and what not?

[remote bobcat]

but thats just me

[cold cape]

I got Eye of Kezan and Jaspers Ring in vault, don't know which to choose. I have a Champions House of Cards to replace Eye of Kezan with

[chrome plover]

go to the top gear section

and paste the data from /simc in game

and you can select diff trinkets etc, and add sockets to them or increase their ilvl

[fervent yoke]

Sim that shit bby

[remote bobcat]

eye of kezan is mediocre in keys and only very good in raid fights that are 5mins or longer usually

but yea sim your gear

[noble elm]

On vexie is it better to lose a cast of a cd to hold avatar/reck for the burn phase if its gonna be up soon? I don’t dps much but usually they’ll be off cd with like 20s before burn phase

My gut tells me yes hold but I am almost hard wired to full send

[remote bobcat]

you want to hold cds for a short moment in order to send them in mechanical breakdown

[plush zephyr]

https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/how-to-sim-your-wow-character-a-guide-to-raidbots

[remote bobcat]

that shit is like 100% bonus dmg

iirc

[noble elm]

Yeah

I hold them as prot but it doesn’t cost me a use vs fury I will 100% lose a use over the fight if I do so I wasn’t sure

[plush zephyr]

Morning maintenance the day after reset hurts my fucking soul

[noble elm]

This is the after maintenance maintenance where they fix all the things they broke during maintenance

[fading sky]

U cant know though? Id send reck but prov hold ava all dependin on kill timers

[noble elm]

I can kinda know considering most of our kills fall in a similar time window

[fading sky]

I send avatar pull, then next avatar with lust in first dmg window

[noble elm]

This is what I’m doing right now

[fading sky]

Usually worksout

[cold cape]

Anyone know why I'm generating 19 rage when using Reck?

It seems that I reck, gain 19 rage, charge, at 39, then Avatar, and I'm at 79

[gleaming siren]

Cause you're not in combat and instantly decay?

[cold cape]

Oh I see

Is there a way to avoid that?

[remote bobcat]

be in combat

[gleaming siren]

Don't pull early

[remote bobcat]

^

[cold cape]

I was practicing with training dummies

[gleaming siren]

Or like idk Heroic Throw if you want to be real sure

To put yourself in combat

[remote bobcat]

try taunt

[cold cape]

And during Reck, what should we be prioritizing? Just getting as many Rampages off as possible?

Without reck, someones I'm running out of RB too quick and not being able to keep up enrage

[remote bobcat]

depends on bladestorm or no bladestorm

[cold cape]

Should I be mixing in some BT's in there to not use up all my Raging Blows just incase it doesn't refresh to 2 stacks?

No Bladestorm during Reck, thanks for asking

[remote bobcat]

with no bladestorm you pretty much wanna send rampages as they come

if you do have bladestorm

you are ignoring rage

you press raging blow after BS

as often as possible

up to 5

then rampage

[cold cape]

Really?

[remote bobcat]

yes

[cold cape]

Even overcapping rage?

[remote bobcat]

yes

You want to overlap Slaughtering Strikes and Brutal Finish

as slayer

[cold cape]

So Enrage -> Reck -> Bladestorm -> Raging Blow's -> Rampage just before Avatar falls off I take it?

Raging Blows*

Or ignore Avatar falling off with Reck?

Rampage just before Enrage falls off?

[remote bobcat]

Ava is 20% dmg buff, check how much slaughtering strikes is

im in arms spec rn so i cant check

[cold cape]

Oh ok so ignore Avatar

SS is 20% too

Just make sure to send Rampage before Enrage falls off

Is there a trick to manage not running out of Raging blows and being energy starved causing Enrage to fall off?

[remote bobcat]

popping thick rampage when enrage is falling off vs pressing more raging blows outside of enrage was within margin of error iirc

[remote bobcat]

..bloodthirst ?

or wdym

[cold cape]

Sometimes that goes on CD too

Like out of SD procs, BT and RB on CD I'm at like 60 rage

[remote bobcat]

Sometimes we press whirlwind or slam as a filler, depending on talents

but that shit is negligible

zero dam

this is what my sprocket kill looked like, enrage wise

and i had a really shit sprocket kill

so yea it can happen but it usually doesnt

the gaps are mostly due to mechanics

[cold cape]

Slam or WW generates Rage? Sorry I don't remember

Oh yeah it does huh

Thanks for the reminder

[remote bobcat]

improved whirlwind gives rage

[cold cape]

Oh right

So either Deft Experience or Improved WW helps keep enrage up

My issue was being rage starved without Deft Experience

I have tro remember to about Improved WW then

[remote bobcat]

in pure st with zero adds you dont run improved whirlwind

but then you never really run out of enrage anyway

[cold cape]

Vexie for example

I run Improved WW and 0 Deft Experience

I'll have to use WW as filler

[remote bobcat]

yuh

[cold cape]

Idk that was my issue

Seems like I'm burning through RB too fast or not managing my Rage

Like using Rampage too soon at 80 rage instead of pooling

Ideally we use Rampage as close as possible to max without capping

[remote bobcat]

aim for 100 rage instead of 80

[cold cape]

But sometimes enrage going to fall off trying to get near cap so I Rampage

[remote bobcat]

yea thats good

[cold cape]

Yeah that's when I get to like 0-10 Enrage with like 1 stack of RB

RB + BT gets me to like 60 with no lucky procs

[remote bobcat]

running out of RB and BT's is real, but not running out of enrage

in pure ST spec

with deft

[chrome plover]

basically just use RB if ur enraged and below 100 rage