fury

[storm birch]

Hmm looking at the spreadsheet the only cast I see for them is void volley

@storm rune in that log you sent he was able to reflect 47m damage from stormrooks. I guess that’s mega worth cause if you do 2.5m ish worth of dps to one mob then that’s like 18 sec worth of dmg

(To just that mob ofc)

[random raptor]

Hey guys can warriors do the parasol skip in rookery with heroic leap?

[sour frigate]

Highly likely no

[smoky vale]

just buy a parasol in the trading post

[random raptor]

yeah thanks, bought one

[clever belfry]

just acquire wings (dragon)

[barren dagger]

is funhouse lens a delve trinket?

[clever belfry]

yes

[sour frigate]

This ^

🐲

[dense elbow]

Dragons look like shit, go Nelf

[sour frigate]

Nelf looks like shit

[dense elbow]

You are shit

[sour frigate]

🐲 ✅

[dense elbow]

Shit

[sour frigate]

At least i can do visage form to not be ugly

[dense elbow]

Whatever you got to say to not cry yourself to sleep at night

Ugly dragon

[sour frigate]

[dense elbow]

[earnest canyon]

What's the parasol skip?

[sour frigate]

Before the drop down to last chamber pick parasol and fly to the boss platform skipping 1 big stone mob

[earnest canyon]

Oh.... Neat, thanks

[forest owl]

nothing been said for 4 hours, fury confirmed dead, everyone rerolled dk i guess

[earnest canyon]

a

[torpid elbow]

im stilll pumping in keys

and ahead of damage of everyone accept pallys

[smoky vale]

cope

[torpid elbow]

was doing heroic raid last night and i was top 3 dps too

[earnest canyon]

It really depends on who you are playing with. My hunter destroys my warrior on damage but I'm not the best player at either

[dense elbow]

Not much to say really, other than to yell into the void:

"Buff Odyn's Fury!"

Then shake my fist into the air.

[fair swallow]

Hey so why do top fury parses have their highest damage as rampage, but when I follow the rotation from wowhead mine is raging blow

[smoky vale]

do you have a log

because that gives 0 information

[fair swallow]

I'm at work right now so I can't grab anything but I have logs on warcraftlogs

NVM got one

It's a heroic mugzee

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/4y9PAWtvk6xYmT21?fight=4&type=damage-done&source=4

[smoky vale]

i think it might because you only pressed it 18 times

[fair swallow]

????

I pressed rampage 85 times

[smoky vale]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/69Xcy1dzhafBJvHm?fight=36&type=damage-done&source=117

[sand chasm]

1993 wasted rage points

[smoky vale]

nvm i pressed something by accident that showd only 18

[fair swallow]

Yeah because after every bladestorm I'm spamming raging blow for the damage stack like wowhead said

Should I ignore that?

[smoky vale]

ko

no

i think its you are spamming raging blow

for no reason

[modest hollow]

58% Mastery, is that high enough?

[smoky vale]

i dont know ask the robot

[dense elbow]

If you can reach the floor with your feet, sure

[sour frigate]

Its good

[smoky vale]

hi

stop enabling them

[sour frigate]

Enabling what

[smoky vale]

insert stat prio gif

[soft fractal]

With the weapon best in slots do you use the on use?

[tepid cedar]

What other have said. Use robot. However if ur going to over cap anything, haste and vers have the highest returns . Especially vers

[smoky vale]

yes?

[soft fractal]

I just cant see it in logs, or I don't know where im looking

[smoky vale]

casts?

[soft fractal]

Looking at logs in casts and buffs, still can't seem to find it.

and the logs have the weapon equipped

[smoky vale]

link

[tepid cedar]

What’s your ilvl?

[smoky vale]

he legit spammed rb

nothing more

[soft fractal]

I found it under buffs actually, thanks.

[dense elbow]

Did you just ask his ilvl, while having his logs?

[tepid cedar]

Maybe he used it wrong some times but that’s not spamming rb

[smoky vale]

60 more times than swordish did while having equal rampages is spamming

[tepid cedar]

That’s my parse

His kill time was 544 my friends guild is 543

And I am pretty damn good with my rotation.

[smoky vale]

i mean theres 0 way casting rb 25 times per minute is normal

[dense elbow]

To check, your CPM diff of the abilities is prob more interesting than the dam breakdown and total of them. Now, looking through his casts, he does use RB a bit too much, doing 3x RBs and BT in order, but nothing insane.

[tepid cedar]

This is robot. On a 6 min sim

Which in 20 sec I would or probably get another 15-20rb

He’s playing proper

[dense elbow]

If anything, I would be more worried about the amount of dead space globals in this rotation

[tepid cedar]

He needs to probably maximize his uptime and global usage

Yep

[smoky vale]

look at his wasted rage

[tepid cedar]

Fun just said exactly what I was thinking

[tepid cedar]

Fuck wasted rave

Rage

Not a good metric anymore

Imo

[full valve]

Thats them mischevious thane BT procs

[dense elbow]

Looks like most rage overcaps come from BS usage

[tepid cedar]

This was me

[dense elbow]

Compare CPM, instead of total casts. Easier to get a general feel of what going on

[smoky vale]

i mean theres no way 50 more raging blows is only 9 rampages more

like unless im so out of touch on fury

thats just not okay

[tepid cedar]

Not really out of whack tbh

[smoky vale]

am i just arm pilled

[tepid cedar]

And I rank 3 parsed that fight so it’s not like I played wrong

I think his globals need to be tuned up

[dense elbow]

It kinda just looks to be what I said. Some dead GCDs, and some overuse of RB, not letting rage overflow from one to another set of rampage. Pretty minor stuff.

What was the issue he wanted looked at? Time to scroll up and see

[smoky vale]

ig im just arm pulled

[tepid cedar]

Fury is in a weird spot bro

Tahts just the bottom line.

[smoky vale]

ive only killed bosses like 7? times as fury

[dense elbow]

Understandabe, it seems weird RB being so strong. But even in M+ it crept up to be my top dam as Slayer.

[tepid cedar]

We all just have copium saying we’re ok but we aren’t hahahaha

My eye opener was the other night. A 99.8 avg parse fury warr barely outdpsing a 60 parse 10 ilvl lower deva

Only reason I won was because I just played better, if he was better I would’ve gotten owned

[dense elbow]

In case ya didnt read this, your case has been updated

If you wonder about your dam breakdown, how it should look, doing a quick sim of your character will also give you a breakdown how it should look ideally

[tepid cedar]

Bc they aren’t playing 100%

If they were it would be even higher

Look at robot

Rb is our highest dmg skill

[quaint viper]

is there some place i can see a prio system between BT and RB, or is it just if you dont have the bleed up from BT spam RB

[dense elbow]

Ngl, I press execute and BT once in a while, not because I think it is better. But because pressing RB feels bad

[dense elbow]

Wowhead guide descibes it good detail. If not you can use the search function top right to find it being explained by a myriad of ppl and different ways

[fair swallow]

Thank you, any tips on the gcd because it feels like I'm mashing the keys as fast as I can

[smoky vale]

press faster

[dense elbow]

[tepid cedar]

Tbh

Ppl learning to semi read apl

[modest condor]

it depends on your bt crit chance and the enemy's hp, if you want the easy answer just download the bt crit weakaura in #dps-faq and when it lights up bt has prio over rb

[dense elbow]

OF 150% buff when?

[tepid cedar]

Is the best thing you can do

[dense elbow]

Best thing you can do, is arguably just press buttons, dont have a DPS meter, be happy

[smoky vale]

never

[dense elbow]

... we shall see... we shall see... I got my 51% buff one time... it shall come again...

[tepid cedar]

10%dmg buff and meat cleaver do 65-75%

Then we golden with 5 cap

[dense elbow]

You wrote that wrong, MC down to 35%, RB, Ramp and BT up 25%

This is the new Fury Way

[smoky vale]

that thing needs like 300% aura buff

[dense elbow]

OF? Nah, at 120-150% it is fine. Would be around 8-9% of overall in keys, as burst AoE no less.

[bitter palm]

odyns fury needs to be moved up and it needs some mechanics like a mini cd

[warm crag]

Gio57

[bitter palm]

reduce reck cd remove am

30s of 1min reck 1min bs

remove avatar from the game

[dense elbow]

That better be Walhe writing, that name...

[smoky vale]

or press n -> arms

[bitter palm]

am is the devil

[smoky vale]

hi spngusss

[warm crag]

Gio57 needs a 1.75% aura buff to become gio58

[bitter palm]

galastronk57

[smoky vale]

both

evaporate

[bitter palm]

never seen gio and galastronk in the same raid

[lost saffron]

@flat river Would you be willing to cook a pickle until it is burnt

[smoky vale]

i will call upon pauck to slur you

[dense elbow]

I have never seen them online in game, playing, at the same time...

[lost saffron]

and stream the ordeal

we need it for science

[smoky vale]

youve never seen me and revvez either

so

[warm crag]

kinda rude to command funky to wither

[smoky vale]

do i have to go back to telling half of skyhold to explode everyday

[flat river]

i'd just eat the pickle

u don't cook a pickle

[lost saffron]

Before or after burning it?

Thats the point!

We cant find a burnt pickle

[smoky vale]

i cant be gala because he likes kimitsu no yaiba

and i dont like dogshit

[flat river]

take that back

[smoky vale]

demon slayer

is

dogshit

[warm crag]

gio tabbing between accounts to argue with himself

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/view/those-who-mow-those-who-know-gif-6741124947321800836

[lost saffron]

@edgy widget Would you be willing to cook a pickle until it is burnt for science

[smoky vale]

https://tenor.com/view/spit-glep-smiling-friends-spurt-water-adult-swim-gif-13801901150088551819

[sour frigate]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/933386399279878154/991343673419763753/caption.gif

[dense elbow]

Was side-tracked, I activated the OF trap card on myself.

GCD problems usually just stem from not being used to always press buttons, or have a plan of what to press next. A lot of it is muscle memory. Why you got those spaces? Could be you simply being distracted, by something on voice, or a mechanic you look out for. Things like that. GCD loss could also be input or simple lag. I wouldnt know.

What you can do is do a M+ key, or a HC fight, then afterwards go through your own log and see if you spot any empty GCDs. Then, as you are reviewing yourself, you will have an idea of what happened and why.

It is all a selfimprovement process, I am certain you will hammer that out in short order.

[lost saffron]

I have no idea whats happening, I just press buttons

[dense elbow]

BigBrain.gif

[smoky vale]

w shit

[smoky vale]

its true

its dogshit

[lost saffron]

Do you have a poop fetish?

[dense elbow]

Aight, hold up. Roll it back. This is getting offroad.

[fair swallow]

Thanks king 👑

[lost saffron]

👑

[dense elbow]

The real Kings are those who play Fury even now

[lost saffron]

@gleaming siren

King

[flat river]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-ryan-gosling-cereal-gramatically-incorrect-spelling-error-compelling-argument-gif-5820001045656734479

it's*

[smoky vale]

demon slayer is abd

bad

[dense elbow]

I agree, abd indeed

[flat river]

abd

xd

[smoky vale]

the ending

[flat river]

is peak

[smoky vale]

is horrendous

[flat river]

PEAK

[dense elbow]

I do find it funny how the guy with the demonslayer pfp is saying demonslayer is bad

[smoky vale]

???

[warm crag]

gala57 caught lacking

[flat river]

its peak

[smoky vale]

peak if you were 12

[flat river]

top 5 anime of all time

[smoky vale]

HAHAHA

you're actually baiting

[dense elbow]

I love how you can see when Gio alt-tabs to respond, in real time

[smoky vale]

...

[lost saffron]

@mossy fox Would you eat a burnt pickle for the culinary experience?

[flat river]

it goes:

1. naruto
2. one punch man
3. solo leveling
4. frieren
5. demon slayer

[smoky vale]

god

[flat river]

objectivly best list

[smoky vale]

you are stupid

[sour frigate]

its time to grind gilded cap for dragon 🔥 🐲

[smoky vale]

[flat river]

nuh uh

[smoky vale]

yeah

[flat river]

nuh uh

[lost saffron]

Gio whats your list

[dense elbow]

The objective and factual anime top 5, by Gio.

Already stated

[flat river]

pin it

[dense elbow]

I didnt read it before now, but Solo Leveling over Frieren... really?

[flat river]

yes cause i read the manwa for solo leveling but not the manga for frieren

so still undecided

[dense elbow]

What does the manga and manwa got to do with the anime list?

Hms, I dont know, this Gio list doesnt seem very objective to myself

[flat river]

i know the story basically

[flat river]

it is very objective

[warm crag]

@spice ice @gleaming siren

[smoky vale]

vinland rezero monogatari oregairu konosuba

[flat river]

konosuba honorable mention

[smoky vale]

shut up stupid

[dense elbow]

Objection overruled, far too long.

[smoky vale]

notice how none of the big 3 are in my top 5

its because they arent that good

[flat river]

bro

you are bad

[burnt kelp]

naruto is a bit like legion

lots of good stuff in it

and lots of garbage

[dense elbow]

... so guys, my favourite show is Boruto.

[flat river]

remove him

[burnt kelp]

not even the side story of sasuke fighting dinos?

you disappoint me

[smoky vale]

i dont listen to people who have demon slayer pfps

[summer quail]

that has to be the most generic list i have seen in my life

[flat river]

i dont listen to people who don't have taste

[smoky vale]

because it is

you have the blandest taste

like a 6 year old

[flat river]

its generic because its the objectivly best anime list

[smoky vale]

YOU ARE STUPID

tupid stupid STUDPID STUPDI

[dense elbow]

God I love triggered weebs

[smoky vale]

BLOW UP

[flat river]

XD

[burnt kelp]

nah, replace frieren with full metal alchemist, that's the most generic list of all time

[summer quail]

any list without fmab and hxh2011 is objectively wrong

[burnt kelp]

frieren is generic too, mind you

[flat river]

fullmetal alchemist is overrated in my opinion

its good but

its not that good

[burnt kelp]

I prefer the 2003 version myself

It just speaks to me more

[dense elbow]

Suprised noone mentioned Bleach yet, oh how the mighty have fallen.

[smoky vale]

i did

[burnt kelp]

I mean the big 3 were mentioned so kind of

[smoky vale]

its not on my list

[flat river]

cause u suck

[smoky vale]

crazy how no one mentions vinland

[flat river]

obv

no taste

[smoky vale]

actual stupid person ^ @flat river

[flat river]

bro you eat glue

[burnt kelp]

weeb fight

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-monkey-fight-monkey-fight-knives-gif-427174388596205973

[flat river]

@smoky vale rn

[dense elbow]

I am waiting for them to argue about whos their fav waifu, then why the other one got trash taste and their waifu is trash

[flat river]

speedwagon tf u mean

[smoky vale]

if i type more

im going to get banned

[dense elbow]

Your fingers hurt, from typing on two accounts over and over? Fair, take a break

[flat river]

im not tired

gio gave up gg

i won

[burnt kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/big-trouble-if-i-speak-if-i-speak-i-am-in-big-trouble-speak-big-gif-23519858

[dense elbow]

Seems like it, gz on the victory. Enjoy the timeout when Archi wakes up 🫡

[flat river]

what i do though i didnt break any rules o-o

[burnt kelp]

weeb shit isn't allowed

[smoky vale]

be stupid

[flat river]

is it not?

[smoky vale]

you cooking isnt allowed for a reason bud

[flat river]

then why is my name "the Chef"

[chilly fractal]

Because you cookin

[sly crane]

Absolutely not

[flat river]

haters gunna hate

[burnt kelp]

its okay, you are allowed to have basic taste

we won't judge you for that

well, maybe some of us

[smoky vale]

hes stupid

[sly crane]

I will judge him

[flat river]

someone's angy

[radiant plank]

solo leveling and demon slayer icant

new gen ...

[burnt kelp]

back in my days we made fun of naruto fans...

[summer quail]

still do

[dense elbow]

Dattebayo!

[winter shoal]

Anime is a blight on society amen

[modest condor]

delete weebs

[sour frigate]

^

[winter shoal]

Preach sister

[iron portal]

Silm best sister

[modest condor]

sisterilen

[nova cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547

[gleaming siren]

I liked Demon Slayer but putting Demon Slayer anywhere near a top 5 all time list is nuts

[versed plaza]

hi guys, yall simming dungeon slice ou patchwerk for aoe ?

[past pivot]

No

[quiet breach]

about to do a +12 TOP with 4 warriors

this is gonna go terrible

but i gotta see it thru for the meme

3 fury warriors 1 prot

[smoky vale]

5 warriors or explode

[junior gale]

No arms diversity hire wtf

[quiet breach]

we have wiped twice on the first boss

ye rip that group, it was funny tho

[junior gale]

No arms diff clearly

Very deserved wipe.

[velvet obsidian]

Wiping is our class fantasy, shoulda seen it coming.

[dense elbow]

Ah, you pulled the bull in, without an enrage dispell?

It is that, or the tank not giving melee space after the shroom explosions, to space out for the overlap

[frigid isle]

Might be a random stupid to ask question… but why does no1 play with the double onslaught talents?
I kind of like it and how it assist in big rampage buffs 🙈
Am I losing that much of a dps loss by running it in m+?
Thanks 👌

[smoky vale]

because onslaught is dead

0 damage

[dense elbow]

It is basically just raging blow+, and the cost benefit of replacing a RB cost with OS isnt really worth the loss of potential DPS from other talents.

You can run it, but you will lose some % of damage.

I run OF, and I am still doing 13-14 keys with no 'issue' (thanks for everyone carrying me). So you can always play it if you want to.

[static rock]

That was the dream, did it way back in DF on a 20 Atal'Dazar

[quiet breach]

been looking for my next +12 for like 15-20 mins, its the longest ive had to wait in a while

usually its 5-10 minutes

[dense elbow]

Why no do own key?

[quiet breach]

i have a +13 floodgate and dont wanna do floodgate

i do my own groups sometimes

[dense elbow]

Why no do floodgate, key reroll off floodgate, you do key?

[quiet breach]

idk, havent had issues getting into groups

if this takes much longer il prolly do that tho

[dense elbow]

Why you have problem, when doing own key no problem, no wait if do own key. Own key. Key.

Man, I am just thinking about jumping on my warrior, jump into a key. Then I remember... a) Getting into a key will be hard and take a lot of time. b) I will be boosted and do no damage

So I just wait for S3 instead

[quiet breach]

lol, was ABOUT to back out of queue finder and got an inv

nice

[dense elbow]

Gl, till you wipe on the 1st pull

[quiet breach]

its ML so it could happen

[viscid oxide]

am i right in thinking we pop both our cds before pull?

[quiet breach]

yes

[viscid oxide]

just sounded counterproductive to me on uptime cause of berserkers torment

ty

[quiet breach]

u get full value of berzerkers torment regardless of whether u pop them together or sepaarate

[dense elbow]

They extend eachother, no worries

[viscid oxide]

ohhhh, thats awesome 🙂

thankyou,

[dense elbow]

They even do so no matter the order only took them years to fix that

[viscid oxide]

very very new to fury

1hour ago got my second 2h

[smoky vale]

bring back s3 df

[viscid oxide]

and a heroic BiS as well :3

[dense elbow]

Hey, welcome to the Fury, hope you enjoy the stay

just dont stay for so long you become an ol' doomer like 99% of us

[viscid oxide]

ahahah

i saw viscera and lockenstalk are good too which is amazing cause i have both 665 and they were just languishing in my bags

im a prot main, but arms hasnt grabbed me and i need an offspec

[dense elbow]

Fury is really great gameplay, so I am sure you will enjoy it as a side option to tanking

(just dont look at DPS meters)

[viscid oxide]

oh is it in a bad slot? i always see it pumpin on mug and gally

spot*

[smoky vale]

reck charge bt rampage of bt spear ava ramp bt ramp bt ramp bt

[full valve]

so real

[viscid oxide]

that was my first test fight

on rik

nrml though,

when the hell do you get time to press bloodthirst?

it was pretty much roar, bladestorm, execute raging blow and rampage

dont think i pressed bthirst once

[full valve]

after 3 raging blow 🫡

[sand crest]

that would partly explain ur dmg being so low

[viscid oxide]

i mean its that low cause treating a boss as a target dummy when youve just made your bars 😄

but yeah, ait time for the rotation

[summer quail]

when the weakaura in #updates-midnight tells me to

[viscid oxide]

ty, just grabbed the weakaura

my stats from prot probs arent helping either

[junior gale]

Def not helping but proper rotation is gonna do more for your dmg than secondary stats will

[sour frigate]

playable

was same for me

[viscid oxide]

yeah that rik fight was just a test to se if i found it fun without knowing what to do

im making an opener/priority bar now while i learn 🙂

[fair swallow]

Idk, missing 25% mastery is losing him 25% damage lol

[viscid oxide]

I'm working on a set but its rough, cant reforge any of my crafted

need me a jastors

[sour frigate]

not actually true

as if other stats dont give damage

[junior gale]

That's not how things add up in this game

[clever belfry]

me when i dont understand how percentages work

[fair swallow]

Sorry I did head math it's actually a 20% damage loss

Unless they do some weird math to calculate the percentage of damage added

[sudden tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-pillow-bite-angry-angry-cat-gif-25541136

[sage ridge]

What crit % do you want to send BT at?

[sour frigate]

sim says ure wrong

[sour frigate]

85

[sage ridge]

Thanks.

[fair swallow]

What's the actual percentage then?

[sour frigate]

was like 6% for me

[opal monolith]

just got house of cards 665, have amplifier and seaforium too at 665

they all sim ridiculously close

what do

for keys

[fair swallow]

That math doesn't seem right but idk, I don't code for blizzard

[smoky vale]

the math doesnt have to work the sim does

[sour frigate]

how so???

as i said

other stats give damage too

[dense elbow]

At that point, try them out, then chose based on personal experience over time

[sour frigate]

hoc + seaf seems good

[barren dagger]

why are they doing all these m+ nerfs?

[dense elbow]

Wdum, they buffed Kudo

[fair swallow]

If something does 500 DMG our mastery percent adds x% to said damage when enraged

25% would be 500×1.25=625

[smoky vale]

i dont think you understand that doing rotation = damage and stats are less

[fair swallow]

50% would be 500×1.50=750

[summer quail]

never heard seaforium be abbreviated like that. took me a second

[dense elbow]

What you on about, Malo

[fair swallow]

750/625=1.2

[fair swallow]

I'm not saying that, I was saying mastery also has a big effect because it's just a big flat damage increase

[smoky vale]

so is vers

[fair swallow]

But vers doesn't scale as well as fury's mastery

[dense elbow]

Is this a weird "mastery is the only stat that increases damage" argument?

[smoky vale]

yes it does at higher ilvl

its better actually than mastery at high stat values right now

[dense elbow]

Mastery and Versa sims very similarly, weirdly enough. Remember, not all damage you do is affected by mastery, but versa is universal.

What you two really arguing?

[fair swallow]

Doesn't vers effect trinkets while mastery only effects our actual abilities?

[dense elbow]

Versa also affects our abilities, auto attacks, and so on. Yeah. You thought it was only trinkies?

Then I get your confusion

[summer quail]

in s3 df i had more vers than mastery. vers good

[dense elbow]

s3 DF full mast/vers, giga slaps

[summer quail]

even this tier my crafted items are vers/haste. vers good

[full valve]

all stats are versatility but with different names

[junior gale]

Dudes also just missing the point. Yes more mastery is better but properly doing your rotation will net you more of a DPS increase than any secondary stat combo would.

[dense elbow]

You guys arguing rotation vs stats?

[junior gale]

Started up here

[dense elbow]

Ah, the new guy. Ye stats wont matter compared to rotation in that context

[smoky vale]

like i only compare stats to my damage

when im doing my rotation right

and im just down damage because wrong gear

[summer quail]

vers is even a little bit stronger than it sims when using dusk/dawnthread. i assume not by alot, but the dr does give you more uptime

[junior gale]

Min maxing your secondary stats is like min maxing the last 5% of your total dmg the other 95% comes from proper play

Prob even less

[dense elbow]

Hoy, we all know 90% comes from... PI

[barren dagger]

yeah but if i can't do proper play i might as well squeeze in the stats i can get

[junior gale]

And 0 from odyns fury

[dense elbow]

Come on man

why do me like that

ouch

[junior gale]

[smoky vale]

idk playing fire without haste and with haste is like legit 15% damage loss

[dense elbow]

oh oh, I can argue like that too!

I am without any gear, so I do less than 1% dam!

[smoky vale]

no its different

[dense elbow]

EVEN WITH PROPER PLAY

My gawd

Stats opop

[smoky vale]

you just lose combustion uptime

[dense elbow]

Combust uptime doesnt matter, if you dont press combust in the first play

Proper play wins yet again

[fair swallow]

@dense elbow I was never arguing stats>rotation I was mostly getting confused by someone saying that increasing your master by 25% doesn't increase your damage by 20%

[dense elbow]

So where do you in your scenario get 25% mastery from nowhere from?

[sour frigate]

try mm with 10% crit

[fair swallow]

The guy is at 25% while most people are at 50%

[smoky vale]

#fury message

[dense elbow]

Cause normally this would mean you move something to something around statwise

[smoky vale]

still burst 15m in a pack

[fair swallow]

Most of his secondary stats are in crit

[dense elbow]

Ye, crit is dam

[fair swallow]

Okay sorry I see the point you guys are making

[dense elbow]

Less dam, sure, but doubt it is what, a 20% DPS loss, at best it would be 5-10%, maybe? Prob less on AoE

[fair swallow]

I'm looking at this narrowly and just focusing on pure numbers of DMG mastery interactions

My bad

[smoky vale]

I think it depends on spec

for the amount stats make a difference

like imagine playing outlaw with full mastery

XDDDDD

[dense elbow]

does anyone have the captainobvious.gif?

[smoky vale]

ocmbust

[dense elbow]

wuv u

[junior gale]

Fire Wizard spec a lil different than warrior.

[smoky vale]

a lil

[dense elbow]

Water is wet ._. what is going on

Unless.. it frozen?!

Gasps!

[smoky vale]

idk getting 20 more seconds of combust cdr is pretty strong

[dense elbow]

eating food consumes it

[fair swallow]

What gear buffs the number of brain cells I can have

[earnest canyon]

Nothing, you are a warrior

[dense elbow]

zug zug

[fair swallow]

Ngl might be a little autistic too, I have these tunnel moments alot

[earnest canyon]

most people are somewhere on the spectrum, its not black and white.....dont worry about it

[whole yacht]

thats a myth

most people do not fall on the spectrum

1 in 45 people roughly, have autism. so in fact. most people do NOT have autism. the myth stems from the usage of the word "spectrum" and the misunderstanding of what that word actually means

[earnest canyon]

that isnt what I said

full blown autism is way different than being a bit obsessive about certain things, which doesnt affect your life at all

[edgy widget]

this feels like a real productive conversation for another discord

[earnest canyon]

agree, i was just telling the guy not to worry 🤷

[full valve]

i like warrior

[jovial plaza]

my damage is so weak

top 15 timed it anyways but got hard carried

[full valve]

doing more than tank, huge

[jovial plaza]

dunno if i dont press rampage enough

🐒

pressing so many buttons, enrage uptime 100% and 0 damage... what the heck am i doing wrong

[fair swallow]

Fury needs to be pampered to do relatively well in m+

I.e. noxiv team benefits fury warrior and vice versa

[full valve]

playing fury on m+ with 2 other classes that are not hard capped

[jovial plaza]

True, having a monk in team is a gamechanger

[fair swallow]

Warrior in mythics really benefit from being with a druid and monk

[whole yacht]

willful ignorance is not blissful friend.

[fair swallow]

Vers and mystic touch

[full valve]

so real

[whole yacht]

shaman buff is nice too

[jovial plaza]

amen to that...

[full valve]

skyfury insane too ye

[fair swallow]

It is, but if you want to optimize your group the shaman is forced to be enhancement to benefit from mystic touch and your 5%ap buff

[whole yacht]

or uh

resto

[full valve]

i mean they can leech that DH tank magic buff

[whole yacht]

lol

[fair swallow]

True you could run a vdh, resto druid, ele shaman, war, monk or any variation of specs those classes have

[whole yacht]

resto sham, vdh, dps warrior monk druid.

balance drud is poppin

[full valve]

tru that

good mob control too

[fair swallow]

The ideal group though is what noxiv team runs

[whole yacht]

the ideal group doesnt run warrior at all

[fair swallow]

Because the tank has to pull around your target cap

[jovial plaza]

Should i use execute btw in m+ as fury?

[full valve]

yeah the ideal is just magic group

[fair swallow]

Obviously not, I'm talking about the ideal group for warriors

[fair swallow]

Treat it like you treat slam in st

[jovial plaza]

kk, so only if nothing else is available

[fair swallow]

Yes

[whole yacht]

execute literally doesnt exist to me

in m+

iits not on my bars

[jovial plaza]

ty ty

[dense elbow]

Warrior, and two DPS that can carry the slack

[gilded pawn]

^

Who cares about shout

Just talk the two best specs

[spare flame]

coming back to this season and im wondering, is slayer fury dogshit or am i just bad

for m+

[fair swallow]

In a vacuum it could hypothetically be good, but in actual play it's worse than thane

[sullen dove]

Aka just bad

still fine enough for like weekly keys but def shouldn’t be tryina push high shit as slayer

[fair swallow]

If you really want to play warrior in higher keys you might want to look into arms

[fickle cedar]

might be good for low keys if mobs die fast but the more health the more thane is better

[fair swallow]

General rule of thumb for war spec in m+, smaller pulls/chain pulling: fury

[undone talon]

U have time to use slam with the procs of execute , with raging blow and bloodthirst?

[fair swallow]

Bigger pulls:arms

[sour frigate]

even in smaller pulls arms pops off

[fair swallow]

True

[analog wyvern]

General rule: dont play fury

[fair swallow]

Fury just sucks at m+

[marble pilot]

But fury more fun

[full valve]

arms does do like 10x the result with 10x less effort lol

but fury fun

[undone talon]

In what moment u use slam ? At the start or in middle of combat

For a boss for example

[marble pilot]

I dont

m+ i just refresh whirlwind instead(tclap). and in raid i cant remember the last time I didnt have a better button to press

[undone talon]

Xddd

[marble pilot]

Im not the best though and i like being lazy. Probably a specific spot to min max it. Like no rb charges no rage, execute/bloodthirst are not procced right and you are not in aoe

But even then its slam vs whirlwind/tclap and I dont think any of them do enough to matter lol

[dense elbow]

As one of the few players in the world playing it. I can safely say, it is decent. It is Fury and it performs as well as Fury can. A bit less AoE than Thane, but meh? We dont do AoE either way.

If you enjoy the playstyle, and can manage to ignore that Bladestorm does 0 damage, then you will have a fun time

[quiet breach]

in a single target situation, when you have no other buttons to press.

a scenario where this occurs would be a boss fight where u have no charges of raging blow left and bloodthirst is on CD, not enough rage for rampage, and all cooldowns are on cooldown

if this happens in a multi target situation just press thunder clap or whirlwind

[marble pilot]

And whats the difference in just using ww or tclap in those situations instead and saving the keybind? Im going to throw a random guess and say less than 1% of overall dps.

[quiet breach]

its minor

if u don't want to bind it I wouldn't blame u

I'm just giving u the use case for it

the ability is damn near useless

[marble pilot]

Yeah I play as lazy as I can get away with. I'm still working on making sure to get as many cds as possible in a fight. Saving the keybind is worth more to me.
Which I understand is not how everyone does it.

[dense elbow]

#showtooltip
/cast [known:Thunder Clap] Thunder Clap; [known:Improved Whirlwind] Whirlwind; Slam

[marble pilot]

Yeah I have that. But it still casts WW instead of slam on single target if you have it talented

[quiet breach]

what is the point of even putting slam in this macro if its literally impossible for it to cast

ww has no cd

[spare flame]

could you share your talent build you're using right now? much thanks!

[dense elbow]

It will cast if you dont have improved WW

[quiet breach]

ohhhh

[marble pilot]

It works if you dont have the Improved WW talent. So pure single target like Lockensprock

[dense elbow]

I use one with Odyn's Fury, do you want a more minmaxed one, or the fun one?

[spare flame]

i'd like your odyns fury one, sounds fun

[exotic adder]

Hello everyone, do you guys got a 1 handed build to share me in raid ST (1) and in m+ ? 🙂 (2)

[quiet breach]

SMF gigachaddius

[dense elbow]

CgEAO9DBjZzKcjSu6RJDto0RCCAAAAAAAAA0YwMLmZYmlBzswMzMmhZYmttZGzMzGmxMzMmhFmhZmZAAAgYstNwCYCmhJwgN
Just remember to not press OF on singletarget

[quiet breach]

man is making his own way

[spare flame]

ty boss

[marble pilot]

I kinda wanna run SMF in a reclear. Just to mess around. I dont have good weapons though. 1 hero track for prot offspec

[quiet breach]

can't u just copy the talent builds on wowhead and replace the two hander talent with SMF?

[exotic adder]

SMF is the name for that build ? ty ^^'

mh whats the 2 hander talent ? .-.

[quiet breach]

single minded fury is the talent for onehanders

idr the 2 hander name lol

its a choice node tho iirc

[marble pilot]

Single minded fury. Its just the name of the talent that buffs 1h weapons. it is always worse than 2h unless you have like huge ilvl gap in 1h vs 2h weapons.

[exotic adder]

ty for info, i appreciate it 🙂

♥

[marble pilot]

Ah crap people are listening to me. Im usually asking for help. What have I done.

[eternal sundial]

i can help you

aquire x2 myth track dagger

play smf

parse 15s

[exotic adder]

does dagger really work ?

i mean highter atk speed, more proc

could be fun

[eternal sundial]

it does significantly less dam

its rlly bad

no mainstat

not BIS or gally hammer

[exotic adder]

but more fun

[eternal sundial]

ngl i tried it previously and my details meter mattered more for my fun

[exotic adder]

aslong it time key and do damage in raid 😄 i like the atk speed

[eternal sundial]

than my swing timer

[exotic adder]

so 1 hand strengt weap i guess

[eternal sundial]

you will be doing like 10+% less damge with daggers

its AWFUL

so is 1h

its just int

[marble pilot]

I want to be able to mog 1h weapons instead. I think they look better. But thats a whole different thing.

[eternal sundial]

common complaint

[marble pilot]

And 2h fury is so fast anyway I dont really know what you get out of SMF. I think its just a holdover talent that exists cause its always existed

[exotic adder]

yeah doing a bit less dmg is fine by me even like 10% less

[eternal sundial]

smf exists cuz ppl cried in bfa or sl i forgot which

[potent granite]

Cataclysm

[eternal sundial]

and they havent come up with a better alternative

[eternal sundial]

ye it got removed and then added back in more modern wow

[marble pilot]

Im one of the people that enjoyed gladiator. I would love for a sword and board dps to come back.

[eternal sundial]

i would prefer if efforts went into creating a more enjoyable playstyle in general

[potent granite]

I dont understand why it has to be a talent, just make it baseline at least

This is worse and it costs you 1 Talent point

[quiet breach]

do u guys think its worth to wait a fraction of a second sometimes in between GCDs to double rampage? like during ravager

or should I just send rb and overcap on rage

[marble pilot]

I still dont know the answer to that. Part of me says rampage always to lower cd on reck. Other says to send the procs first.

I think its rampage if you will overcap on rage. RB if you wont

[native grove]

is execute a bad button for fury rn???

[earnest canyon]

Outside of stacked slayer yes

[marble pilot]

I only click it when the weakaura makes the noise

[earnest canyon]

Mt doesn't press it

[native grove]

oh thats wild

i saw a MT fury just now not press execute on the last boss of rookery and thought he was insane for not pressing it during both the double dmg but also while he had a shield sitting at like 18% hp

[marble pilot]

Yeah MT doesnt use it at all

Slayer does with procs lined up

[native grove]

well he used it some lol. 33 casts all dung

thats totally botched tho. execute not being usable is always bad imo

[earnest canyon]

On Mt it hits like a noodle

U press it if there is literally nothing else

[nimble kraken]

Mt in m+ utilizes a talent that slayer doesn’t which makes bloodthirst deal 50% bonus damage under 35% hp

And it fishes your thunder blast procs*

[marble pilot]

I guess on MT it is technically used over Thunderclap filler if there is no aoe at all. But its so minor it doesnt really matter and you are not really playing MT on single target. But I guess it does happen sometimes.

[nimble kraken]

So tldr bloodthirst is execute

[native grove]

weird

[edgy widget]

that's a common talent which Slayer also has

Slayer just has effects which buff Execute, that's one of its core themes
Thane does not, it primarily focuses on Thunder Clap instead

[marble pilot]

Yeah you can get some nasty bloodthirsts.

[edgy widget]

Slayer also uses that talent, lol

[nimble kraken]

Oh I was scrolling through m+ and thought they skipped it lol

Mb

[edgy widget]

hypothetically you could skip it in a M+ build, but Slayer doesn't get played in M+ either so

[full valve]

dont u have to drop it for execute talnets? or was it another one

[edgy widget]

you'd drop Deft, which is very easy to give up at this point

earlier in the xpac it was more crucial, but we've gotten so much stat inflation it's just kinda w/e (raid builds already frequently drop it)

does feel good to have though

Execute downbad in general though, there's just so much power in Raging Blow that even as Slayer you don't have a whole lot of reason to press it outside of Sudden Death

[full valve]

the return of E X E C U T E

[summer quail]

no one wants that

[plush maple]

Why would you not want that? Execute should be Executing just like the name proclaims

BIG DAMAGE TO EXECUTE YOUR TARGET

Generator as well, what's not to love

[summer quail]

coz getting 1 mechanic and you lose all your stacks. having to rely on a maintenance buff for execute to hit hard is ass

[full valve]

just make it hit hard by default

[sinful orbit]

Then the buff shouldn’t a 15 sec one

[plush maple]

^

[summer quail]

not to mention with current slayer highrolling juggernaut is a massive problem with arms

15 stacks already feels like alot and takes ages to build

[full valve]

i wouldnt like JUST pressing execute during execute phase, but def should be a button during that phase lol

[summer quail]

oh i agree it should be pressed on cd in execute phase ideally. just do not want a maintenance buff being the reason to do so

[full valve]

agree, with the nuances of sudden death, having to hold it to deny bad RNG is ass lol

[summer quail]

yea that's arms currently with sd. better hope you get good rng

[fair swallow]

I just hate how fury's execute is kinda just a dice roll

Pray you get stacks and a proc in order to press it

Feels bad when I'm forced to watch juggernaut drop because I didn't get a sudden death proc

[plush maple]

That does not sound fun at all

They dropped the ball on that design

[covert coyote]

the amount of times I lost a 5 jugg stack on Sprocket prog only to get SD proc the very next gcd....so frustrating

[sour frigate]

BALL

[sour frigate]

jugg isnt that big on fury

[marble pilot]

I dont think about it that much. Just hit execute when weakaura makes the noise

[covert coyote]

not big =/= nothing and it feels bad regardless

[edgy widget]

So here's the thing - if you make the buff too long (or just too quick to apply), you run into the current Arms problem of trying to stack the buff up well before the Execute phase.

• This is incredibly problematic for a number of reasons, especially when dealing with a very strong buff, because you generally end up either too powerful on static encounters where you can stack it up or (much more likely) incredibly weak if the buff ever falls off due to encounter mechanics, downtime, target phasing, whatever

That was Legion Juggernaut's problem, so much damage was budgeted into Execute that you were basically dead weight until 20%, and if you happened to drop the buff for any reason, you might as well have just not shown up to the fight at all

It was a cool mechanic and it allowed for some great highlight reels, but it was a very problematic one in practice, simply cause it failed a lot more often than not

More importantly though, Fury's problem with Execute isn't the lack of Juggernaut, so much as just that Raging Blow has way too many effects tied up into it

[full valve]

what if they make execute just kill the boss 1shot

lore accurate execute

[simple pecan]

monks touch is fun

[whole yacht]

warrior instantly unbeatable dps?

"boss only has 1 billion hp left, keep going guys. "
executes boss for 1 billion damage, sky rocketing in damage

[full valve]

bellow 20% is over

massacre becomes bis talent, cuz u now desintegrate it bellow 35%

[gilded pawn]

Should just do mechanics pre 35

Don’t even touch the boss

[earnest canyon]

A monk touched me once... I slapped his bald head

[tulip swallow]

Just give execute the thane thunderclap treatment

Now benefits from all effects that modify raging blow

[summer quail]

i would rather them remove some of the things that modify raging blow

[inner zinc]

Id agree with that if we were op. But our kit doesnt need to do less things. Imo it needs to do more

[summer quail]

what does us not being op or not being op have to do with it? raging blow simply does too much, you can just tune our damage afterwarcs

afterwards*

[sour frigate]

It was in df now not much

[simple pecan]

yeah I mean my monk is still like level 30 and is just a transmog auctioneer now, making yellow G

way back in vanilla we had a gold seller calling gold yellow G

[sour frigate]

Good usage for capped class

[inner zinc]

You mean like how they tuned OF after they "fixed" titanic torment?

[sour frigate]

[summer quail]

ughh you're too focused on tuning to see raging blow being a problem for fury. it buffs both rampage and bloodthirst. it does too much

[sour frigate]

And its just a big button itself

[inner zinc]

I think its fine. In fact, id like for execute to have those same buffs to those abilities

I like synergies like those

Raging blow feels good to press. I dont want it to feel worst, i want execute to feel better but not at the cost of raging bLow

[summer quail]

why not just move one of them to execute instead? slaughtering strikes moved to execute would be way nicer, instead now all we do is press raging blow on repeat. we press it so much on st for alot of pulls it is literally above rampage

it's crazy

[inner zinc]

Well to quote you, why cant raging blow keep all its synergies while execute benefits from them also? We could just tune it afterwards

[summer quail]

i cba

I CBA

[whole yacht]

616 lvl btw

effortlessly with bad pulls over 2m overall at last boss

[full valve]

doable?

[whole yacht]

oh for sure lmao

[full valve]

p a i n

[whole yacht]

24 deaths is tough

]

i need to see the details deaths breakdown

[full valve]

cant send, its on a list instead of a count

[deft vessel]

i wonder what fury dps numbers if we had the same target cap as unholy

[opal monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/gachi-oh-shit-a-am-sorry-gachimuchi-gif-13510847

[full valve]

just went thru the most painful experience for 200 gold

it do be like that

[opal monolith]

But how much were the repairs 🙂

[full valve]

had to get a loan to pay em

[random raptor]

I'm more impressed by the fact no one left the key after all those deaths

[full valve]

we ended up reaching like 70

im also impressed

[obsidian yarrow]

Would be dumb

[deft vessel]

think we could out burst them?

[obsidian yarrow]

We aren't the most bursty class in the game so probably not

relative to other classes we generate damage fairly smoothly

[quartz dirge]

Hello there, why do we prefer to use RB more than BT in our multitarget rotation ? It seems to deal more on average cast and I assume that slaughtering strikes not giving a sufficient boost to compensate that ?

[full valve]

RB buffs BT

[fiery edge]

damn, is arms doing better than fury?

[covert coyote]

in most M+ dungeons yeah

[fiery edge]

I can see fury having a problem with ae target caps

[wispy canyon]

Hi, new to war. Is fury better than arms rn in keys?

[covert coyote]

See previous 3 messages

[wintry sundial]

Hi, new to war. Is fury better than arms rn in keys?

[quartz dirge]

It does but we can still use RB as filler and spam BT when available

[full valve]

i mean it takes prio when enemy lower than 35%, other than that u just want to press it when its high crit with RB buff

[torpid elbow]

HAPPY easter Fellow warriors!

[torpid elbow]

the only time i BT is when i knew i can hit BT twice in a row then after that i prio with vicious contempt and execute

not (execute skill)

[keen kindle]

Ur cooked brother

[rocky locust]

On Big M.O.M.M.A., at what percent health would you ignore the adds and just focus the boss?

[full valve]

[keen kindle]

Probally like sub 10%

[full valve]

really depends if ur teammates also have the idea to ignore adds and focus it down lol

[keen kindle]

also true

[rocky locust]

I guess we'll just have to communicate 😩

[wispy canyon]

Thats fair, thanks

[wispy canyon]

I looked it up, it said to go play ret

[clever path]

@smoky vale 57

[tender aspen]

can i heroic leap over a drill in sprocket

[keen kindle]

I want to meme and say try it

But considering our luck with how leaps have interacted in past ground objects I'd say probally no

[tender aspen]

we have a really awkward lineup like 4 minutes into sprocket where i want to leap to my mine pop but people are dropping drills in the way

too far in to do science imo so i thought id ask ehre

[keen kindle]

if ur still curious and don't get an asnwer here can always just science it on heroic

[fiery edge]

bruh

[fiery edge]

how reliable is it?

[vague sierra]

This spec is depressing as fuck.

[fiery edge]

i feel like either 2 points in mastery or 1 point in other is better?

[vagrant imp]

@rice were you old IO

[fiery edge]

huh

[vagrant imp]

nvm then

[keen kindle]

This class is depressing as fuck there fixed it for u

[edgy widget]

This person is depressing as fuck, there fixed it for you

[keen kindle]

Damn archi coming in with the assassination

Altough yall got me to play arms as an alt so I guess I'm the true fool

[fading sky]

hear me out Remove bloodcraze + make the 5 stack juggernaut be dmg not crit % that way makin crit in gen better on fury? + lets just say it. add dmg to roar and OF and im pretty happy ( if we still lack some st from the removal of bc add it straigt into Execute as a spell 😄

[eternal compass]

Happy easter guys! Can anyone help me with the addon that critcake uses that shows the dmg of the spell?

[mossy fox]

#arms message

[eternal compass]

Thanks

[fervent yoke]

If this Greil person is in this disc I gotta ask why do you snipe every “warrior needs buffs” post on the forums basically saying we are perfectly fine and it’s a PI / L2P issue..

I swear they are a ret paladin dev low key

[dense elbow]

I read his answers, and no, he is not saying we are perfectly fine, he is saying we are 'fine'. That is a fair take. He also agrees to that what we need fixed should be fixed. Like capstones, or AoE situation in m+ in general.

Lets not try to drag forum disagreements into Skyhold, though. It is unncessary dramalama

[sour frigate]

🧐

[dense elbow]

🍿

[warm crag]

both of you are insanely lost for interacting with wow forums

get real

[dense elbow]

Never, I shall forever be on the forums and preach the good word of Odyn's Fury

[fervent yoke]

haha fair point kitty but still it’s annoying literally every post.. just let players complain - it works for most classes

[dense elbow]

Hasn't worked for Warrior this far, and this is clearly what is the design goal for fury gameplay

so yeah

Stop trying to change it

just doomium

[fervent yoke]

😢 but I just polished my pitchfork

[dense elbow]

Sadly one angry farmer is not enough, you would need thousands, and they all just gave up a long time ago.

We are a broken spec

[undone flower]

We just need tomrus

[pearl sequoia]

big zee ded

[forest owl]

more like ded'zee gz champ

[warm crag]

love tomrus

[sinful orbit]

Wouldn’t you say removing the buff completely and applying the damage increase to execute on its own would solve the issue entirely? Like how BT works on lower hp targets. But making it so execute does giga dam under 10% so it’s worth pressing. Or making it cost rage again like back in the day. Just spitballing here tough

[undone flower]

Blizzard should just copy paste rampage -> execute and give 50% (whatever number) more damage if not pressing execute disturbs you that much, idc about that button

[sinful orbit]

It’s not that I care so much it’s just that it feels so useless

And one of the main points of warrior dps was always execute

Fury not as much but still

[warm crag]

fury needs bloodlust and rez then we will be meta in m+

@clever belfry back me up here

[solemn plover]

fury needs prio cleave actually

[undone flower]

Fury needs to do magic damage

[compact siren]

i think fury should have the earthen racial cooked in. @clever belfry have you considered the synergy of this?

[sinful orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/shinji-crank-that-soulja-boy-gif-3198420354555994627

Shinji crank that Soulja boy

[indigo arch]

https://tenor.com/view/warrior-blizzard-wow-classic-push-hank-hill-gif-27417019

You'll take your expansion of mediocrity and like it

[sinful orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-feels-blackkid-tears-sad-gif-5053497

[indigo arch]

Just go arms™ ~ blizzard, probably

[sinful orbit]

Just go ret *

[sour frigate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1355255285534429285/ret1.gif

[proven hornet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1333755767714611230/0128.gif

[clever belfry]

fact

[clever belfry]

I have not
can u sim that

[flat river]

I mean blizzard listened to us

"no nerfs"

Just buff every single other class

[dense elbow]

Imagine if they nerfed us, then aug would actually overtake us on raw dam

[thick fossil]

wait, what is going on?

I see zero notes anywhere about any change to Fury.

[dense elbow]

Cause there hasnt been any?

[thick fossil]

Ok, so ppl are just trying to bait me saying that Fury is getting something.

[flat river]

Yes

They are getting something

[indigo arch]

Don't worry, warbreaker is getting a cosmetic change, warrior saved!

[flat river]

Not getting nerfed

[flat river]

Thats arms

[clever belfry]

getting balls

[flat river]

Real

[indigo arch]

They should just make fury only hit one target to better reflect their vision of fury

[flat river]

They should make fury execute deal less dmg

Deals too much dmg

[indigo arch]

nerf sidearm again

talent was out of control

so much damage

[flat river]

Raging blow should buff every single ability

And should enrage u

Best button fr fr

@dense elbow what do u think

They should also nerf odyns fr fr, deals more dmg than bloodthirst its too much

[indigo arch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1285353121102561311/dead-fury.gif

[dense elbow]

why ppl ping to punch me in the balls?

[earnest canyon]

https://tenor.com/view/jason-horton-painful-ball-tap-gif-3759882

[elfin belfry]

Heroic throw is the one that needs the nerf, if we're being honest.

Letting a broken ability like that go untouched while on such a short cd is strange.

[stoic loom]

Should make it so that if u heroic throw, you cant do melee damage until you go retrieve it

[undone flower]

Nerf stormbolt damage 🙏

[dense elbow]

Asking for Slayer nerfs are we? I hope your DK loses the ability to Death Strike

[undone flower]

Funny, I’m fury now on bandit

I have to switch prot -> fury bc we recruited a monk tank, I have 22k haste

And no myth wep ofc

[warm rain]

I'm playing single minded fury because I'm a masochist

But one handed weapon mogs are bis

:>

[dense elbow]

I mean, what is another -5%, when we already behind? Do it! Fun over "performance", any day of the week

[earnest canyon]

be a proper masochist and play with just 1, 1-hander

[warm rain]

It isn't even that terrible lol I can keep up quite well if I scam out aoe damage in m+

[cosmic flume]

I would play fury if smf was viable

Fantasy > dps

[sand crest]

fury with viable smf already exists

its called outlaw rogue

[warm rain]

yeah i'd rather not kill myself with killing spree until they make it less troll

[cosmic flume]

I’d rather uninstall

[hollow elk]

every time i go to another class and get blasted by shit that wouldnt move my warrior it makes me wonder why em i playing this other fucking class

[whole yacht]

brother

the answer to your problem is simple

stop getting hit

[molten night]

https://tenor.com/view/miss-me-with-that-dodge-gif-5757188

this.

[cold cape]

What is the best way to stack Slaughtering Strikes with Brutal Finish?

[warm crag]

press raging blow until your enrage runs out

[formal glacier]

This is tough... Not gonna lie, life as a fury tough.. I reach the 3.2k io and now, i litteraly cant get an invite in a 15's.. I feel like this is the choke point. If you dont have a squad or homies to run keys with, you probably done at 15's ish. Litteraly cant get a single invite in 2 days. As sad as it is, i can understand ' em. Why would you invite a fury warrior when there's plenty of meta slave who also apply. Why bring a fury warrior when the class do less dps than any other classes and have near to 0 utility.

Cant understand blizz to completly ignore us last tuning

make 0 sens.

[stoic loom]

Yeah i play enhance and fury and its night and day

[vague sierra]

I acutely felt this while barely not timing a few 15's last night (like literal seconds). If they'd brought literally any other spec, it was timed.

Great feeling like a lead weight on your group.

To be fair, it realistically wasn't the only reason, as deaths could be minimized, but either way.

[twilit timber]

Fury 100% needs some love if it's gonna be meta or competitive in m+ content. No lust, no brez, just dmg and it's not even top at that

[undone flower]

https://tenor.com/view/nothing-ever-happens-chud-chudjak-soyjak-90-seconds-to-nothing-gif-9277709574191520604

I heard fury and love for m+

[twilit timber]

True

[dense elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/zombielandsaga-sakura-spray-begone-goaway-gif-13162288

[full valve]

ngl lust wouldnt be out of character for it

[twilit timber]

Fr. Our other shouts affect the whole party. Give us like "murderous shout" that's just bloodlust

[dense elbow]

Fury isnt struggling hard to pull its weight before the 18/19 range, so 15 should be fine, as the others can still carry

Just focus on what little DPS we can bring, and ya can do 15s o/

[undone flower]

Keep praying for lust on warrior, I’m waiting with my shield to be the only tank to have it

[formal glacier]

yes, like i said earlier, if you run with a squad who wants to bring yo ass in xd

[dense elbow]

Lust is Fury only, only spec with bloodthirst

[undone flower]

It’s my group slot, not yours

[twilit timber]

I'd be down for that. Fury master race

[dense elbow]

You think I read more than 1 sentence up? Hell naw, I came here to spray Happy

[twilit timber]

Actually just reduce bladestorms cool down so I can just spin all dungeon too.

[undone flower]

It needs to do damage in the first place

[dense elbow]

Sure, lets make BS a perma uptime buff, maybe ti does some dam

[twilit timber]

I can roleplay as garen

FOR DEMACIA

[dense elbow]

Gotta go arms for that tho

then you got demolish as the ult

silence strike will be hard to do, guess bind pummel to mortalstrike

[undone flower]

https://wago.io/FQ7mbW8h3

[dense elbow]

oh god, not that

[edgy widget]

Well fury doesn’t have this buff (ashen Jugg isn’t the same), so that’s not really the issue

Fury’s problem is that raging blow has too much tied up into it; it’s not a raw damage issue, so much as an effects one

[undone flower]

I played col prot for so long and I never tried if I can gnome the slow on demolish

[dense elbow]

get gnomed?

[undone flower]

https://tenor.com/view/zombielandsaga-sakura-spray-begone-goaway-gif-13162288

[dense elbow]

Tuché

[modest condor]

i wonder if you can necro banner it

[open prairie]

Why do people act like lust is gonna do anything

[modest condor]

i remember you could necro banner eyebeam

[open prairie]

when mage is always good

[modest condor]

because they're coping

[full valve]

u could literally make lust a banner of command or "bolstering shout" and it would be good

[modest condor]

it was the same thing with shockwave in the past

"all dps warrior needs is shockwave" oh look we got shockwave and nothing changed

[dense elbow]

Once we got Lust, we want BR, and once we got BR, we want AoE BR, then... I dont remember what the list went on to

Think it was immunity?

[open prairie]

lust would only matter if warrior was actually better

than the other dps with it

which it aint

[modest condor]

yeah

what we need is damage

[dense elbow]

Ye, that wont happen

So take lust, makes 10s easier to get into in 1/100 scenarios

we take it

[open prairie]

lock has br

and they are rarely meta

[dense elbow]

Ye, cause no lust

smh

[modest condor]

everybody has br

if you go into an m+ without cables you're trolling

[dense elbow]

First we need BL, then we get CR, then we get AoE CR.

[full valve]

reviving shout

[dense elbow]

"GET UP!" Mass ress, 0 restritctions in raid or m+, 10min CD

[undone flower]

That’s my point when I said I wait with my shield, the tank with lust will be taken before the fury with lust in every world they imagine

[warm crag]

fury needs battlerez and lust then it will get 1% play rate

[dense elbow]

Ya forget immunity and cleanse