unless you literally stand in the 1 avoidable 1shot of the dungeon or something
#fury
compact knot
tgp that was the name
fading sky
Stay fury
dusk dawn
have any definitive builds been established yet for M+ and raid?
compact knot
have any definitive builds been established yet for M+ and raid?
yes.?
queen tapir
btw guy we are pumping in raid i am looking at logs
wtf we are 2nd to top
we are getting nerfed for sure no ?
small trout
Hope they buff others
nimble ermine
do you know why we're 2nd dps
long glacier
our st dmg sucks less, and we already hadd good cooldown for add phases on most bosses
long glacier
it use to suck ass, it doesnt now
compact knot
M8 its coz of how last boss works
thats not entirely true
queen tapir
nvm
long glacier
then why say that
i said it sucks less, lol
compact knot
really good on brood and bloodbound, our ST got buffed so that brings us up a lot
last boss is good for us too
fading sky
thats not entirely true
Ye webs and adds arent free pad ar all
queen tapir
keep in mind our st with aoe talents is fucking better than 99% of other classes with aoe 
compact knot
Ye webs and adds arent free pad ar all
oh cause those definetly dont need to die
right
gilded flicker
wheres the ppl that run AM slayer 10+ ?
fading sky
oh cause those definetly dont need to die
The hp is so low thag we are top coz we kill em faster
Its not tindy kindda pressure
compact knot
you would be surprised at the horrible the 2/2/6 queen kills are at killing webs and adds
fading sky
you would be surprised at the horrible the 2/2/6 queen kills are at killing webs...
Tbh
fading sky
In a pug
queen tapir
that is irrelevant
fading sky
In mythic u have sev classes that can do the same. But fury is good atm ngl
compact knot
we talking about mythic
yeah and on mythic
you just ignore the webs
because people use util right
XDD
you dont even kill the webs
queen tapir
you kinda do
i dont think you realise not everyone has a 25 second remove web button
young swan
you kinda do
you only kill 1 set for the entire phase
compact knot
remove the webs from the conversation at all
its only the adds in intermission and last phase
fading sky
And we get to send shit into it😄
young swan
webs are entirely irrelevant once you get a couple pulls to get comfy killing them
compact knot
you only pop cds on webs to remove the root from yourself
which is why i brought up heroic
because you kill the webs on heroic
fading sky
Matters more hc
restive peak
Fury isn't even strong on queen because of the webs, it's because of the adds P3 lol
compact knot
^
molten spire
It's both right
smoky vale
no
molten spire
But webs are much less important
compact knot
if p3 adds dont die you wipe instantly after a 6min pull
young swan
its strong p1 cause u just ignore every set of webs, but u actually carry add damage in p2 and p3
molten spire
It doesn't hurt that we delete webs, but it doesn't really matter because lots of classes can delete webs
smoky vale
there is one set of webs you hate
young swan
i think its the 3rd web set? i cant remember
compact knot
saying fury only appears good in raid though because of ansurek is just a wrong statement though
young swan
but yeah u blast it
compact knot
its 3rd
young swan
fury is strong in raid because fury is strong at like every fight except sikran and kyveza
queen tapir
every fight in raid pretty much
young swan
even on kyveza, we're bottom-middle but we just cant die
queen tapir
and imo they are ok on kyveza
young swan
or its very hard
dusk dawn
yes.?
I just havent seen anything that says RA>AM for example since the patch. I know they are close but usually a top build does get posted. Maybe I just missed it
restive peak
After the buffs we are 1 of the better overall specs for the raid in all aspects
molten spire
fury is strong in raid because fury is strong at like every fight except sikran ...
It's also easy execution on the places where we need to do stuff
restive peak
Except sikran but sikran could be killed w 15 feral druids spamming moonfire
molten spire
Pressing bladestorm/OF isn't hard
restive peak
And 2 tanks/3heals
serene vessel
In da clerb, we all fam
compact knot
I just havent seen anything that says RA>AM for example since the patch. I know ...
honestly we have a lot of viable builds in m+ and even a decent amount in raid, in m+ a lot of them are pretty similar in damage and are all pretty fun to play
molten spire
2nd dungeon already bugs
which dg?
swift citrus
Thane is now default M+ Build?
compact knot
been playing thane AM with berserkers torment and short troar and throughput is great
compact knot
Thane is now default M+ Build?
yea
molten spire
I'm gonna guess DB
eternal sundial
I'm gonna guess DB
cot
compact knot
yes arms st is still better than fury st but they are decently close to eachother
imo id play what you are more comfortable at and have the gear for
eternal sundial
like if u play a spec u dont play on princess
thats already squishier
youll do so horribly
might as well stay fury
weary sail
Even for princess which is pure ST, you probs wanna be fury due to so much raid dmg
Sikran is the one fight i think arms is def better but its such an easy fight anyway so
grim kindle
do you guys track bloodthirst crit chance with WA?
compact knot
hell nah
eternal sundial
Even for princess which is pure ST, you probs wanna be fury due to so much raid ...
fury or arms doesnt matter there
either its ur fault and ur oneshot
vague fern
are people prefering AM or RA Thane in m+ atm? or is there quite the difference between them after buffs?
eternal sundial
or ur healers are trolling
compact knot
are people prefering AM or RA Thane in m+ atm? or is there quite the difference ...
they lowkey feel like they do the same overall dps, RA has better prio damage, AM has more consistent cds which feels nice to play
compact knot
play around with them and see what you like more, they feel the same in most keys
weary sail
do you guys track bloodthirst crit chance with WA?
Atrocity WA pack track it i believe
compact knot
if u play right u get reck+ravager with troar and odyns every 45 seconds
playstyle just FEELS better
velvet obsidian
Interesting. And you run berserkers torment rather than titans?
weary sail
compact knot
Interesting. And you run berserkers torment rather than titans?
honestly both work too
lmao
RA always titans, but AM can be either
RA 1:30 troar is better, AM 45 sec troar is better
velvet obsidian
Hmm, may retry the AM Thane build then. I just remember attempting it and keeping track of everything on top of still getting used to Thane was too dank for me. Didn't click.
compact knot
like the playstyles do similar damage, its really up to you what you pick and commit too
young swan
RA always titans, but AM can be either
thats not true
you can play RA with zerkers
it performs better than OF for sustained aoe
compact knot
well you can do either, but if you are trying to go sustained aoe i would just go AM
young swan
last I checked RA is better for sustained aoe as well, AM just gives you better pack-to-pack burst because you always have cds
with isnt exactly the same as sustained aoe
kindred hearth
Hmm, may retry the AM Thane build then. I just remember attempting it and keepin...
You have to remember that AM may sim better at times, but its up to you the player to hit the buttons perfectly to match the sims to match the result
I personally cant track them well, so i play RA
one macro call it a day
compact knot
last I checked RA is better for sustained aoe as well, AM just gives you better ...
i feel like sometimes it depends on dungeon
like dawnbreaker is a much better RA dungeon
can make cds not line up
young swan
I think unless if you can get 2 sets of cds in one pack/pull, RA is just always better
they're definitely similar, its very close
and if you enjoy AM more then you should play it
but I think RA is just better
slim hawk
So im apparently a total noob and should crafted the 2h axe instead of the sword. However why is there even a difference in weapon dps?
2h sword has a dmg range of 4327-7213 at 577 ilvl (wowhead tooltip) while the axe has a dmg range of 3750-7790 at 577 ilvl
However the damage per second is the same on both weapons do we still benefit more from having an axe over the sword?
fickle cedar
RA is consistent too, I already have a rough sketch where to use burst cds on all m+
young swan
So im apparently a total noob and should crafted the 2h axe instead of the sword...
it doesnt matter which weapon you craft
the damage ranges are cosmetic
slim hawk
i wonder why theres a difference to begin with
queen tapir
take those 2 damage ranges and divide them by 2 its the same exact shit
slim hawk
Ye the actual dps is the same on both
young swan
I do think that for a dungeon like siege AM is better
young swan
cause you have cds for every amp on the first boss, cds for the adds on 2nd, cds for every tentacle on last
slim hawk
Aight cheers for the info, glad i didnt accidentally fuck up ;p
neat socket
I think for slayer AM is great for the Bladestorm. I think RA is better for Mountain Thane but that's just my opinion
hard widget
I do think that for a dungeon like siege AM is better
I dont think so
I think only Mists and NW are AM contenders tbh
young swan
I feel like any argument for mists just get auto applied to siege
hard widget
On the bosses, maybe its the keylevel diff. But RA is great
AM comes up way too early
young swan
or anyone who cares to participate in the conversation about AM vs RA
neat socket
AM vs RA is what a 2% difference in Damage?
young swan
On the bosses, maybe its the keylevel diff. But RA is great
I mean maybe? but the logic applies regardless of key level, unless if timings are absolutely fucked for no reason
like dont get me wrong theres parts of that dungeon where I think RA is absolutely better
stark wren
Does anyone have a thane raid build i could borrow?
I wanna try it out rather than just slayer
willow cradle
Does anyone have a thane raid build i could borrow?
You can use the sample ones
There's definitely some per boss optimization you can do but that's gonna be harder to find for Thane than for Slayer
stark wren
Thanks
stark wren
If i'm not wrong spear is better for bosses with a burst phase or is it overall also better than roar?
polar trail
Did you check spell reflect?
willow cradle
If i'm not wrong spear is better for bosses with a burst phase or is it overall ...
In ST yes nearly always
stark wren
Alr
jade cipher
idk i just do a lot of damage there, its probably not reflect
its probably same for other warriors
it happens everytime
willow cradle
does warrior do extra damage to 3rd boss of city of threads
There is no hidden bonus on it or anything. Maybe you just play it cracked AF.
jade cipher
i might check some logs on it from other warriors
queen tapir
mdi my man
buoyant salmon
unholy has always had insane mass aoe
willow cradle
Oh, eh that's not a good representation of actual m+
queen tapir
yeah I am just talking about mdi
buoyant salmon
just brought back their bfa power
cunning tusk
does warrior do extra damage to 3rd boss of city of threads
it takes increased phys dmg
sage mauve
So what are we saying about the blackrock depths weapons? are they bis for raid and m+?
willow cradle
it takes increased phys dmg
I've never heard this, I don't remember this being in the dungeon journal either
rigid stirrup
So what are we saying about the blackrock depths weapons? are they bis for raid ...
They're good in strictly st scenario
The one with the effect anyways
willow cradle
So what are we saying about the blackrock depths weapons? are they bis for raid ...
It's like 0.2 increase in pure ST
Not really worth farming
If you have a mythic weapon
cunning tusk
I've never heard this, I don't remember this being in the dungeon journal either
there's nothing that states it but it's true nontheless
young swan
does warrior do extra damage to 3rd boss of city of threads
i noticed this a bit ago and choco mentioned maybe the boss just doesnt have armor which seems like a plausible explanation to me
just 30% extra dam
sage mauve
Well if free farming it then you can just buy it from the keys you get, but dont know yet if they actully are better
willow cradle
i noticed this a bit ago and choco mentioned maybe the boss just doesnt have arm...
Well TIL, neat bit of info
winter shoal
i noticed this a bit ago and choco mentioned maybe the boss just doesnt have arm...
Crit said in a video that that boss takes extra phys dam in general for some reason
It's def not just warrior that gets extra dam tho
young swan
do u know what armor affects?
winter shoal
young swan
its not that it takes extra damage, it just doesnt take reduced damage
of course thats extra relative to every other boss in the game
winter shoal
Bring back armor pen, I say
young swan
kinda funny that that boss alone prob makes slayer better than thane for that dungeon (slayer already had an advantage)
broken hull
can I have equipped 2 different 636 crafted weapons?
red berry
i miss armor pen
winter shoal
can I have equipped 2 different 636 crafted weapons?
You can, but you shouldn't
Waste of sparks and crests
warm crag
You can, but you shouldn't
what why
broken hull
if i have only a 618 weapon is it worth then?
warm crag
arent we at like 6 sparks now
broken hull
619"
winter shoal
arent we at like 6 sparks now
90 gilded crests goes bananas tho
warm crag
90 gilded crests goes bananas tho
ok but if they dont have a mythic weapon this late into the season
winter shoal
I still don't have a myth weapon in OH either bc Ulgrax is a big ol shitter
But I still have other things to spend gilded crests on
warm crag
they probably dont have too much to spend gilded crests on either way
winter shoal
I think 636 wrists for embellish are still a better use of your gilded crests long-term, and probably even better short term if you have a hero track offhand
warm crag
idk crafting myth wep is probably the correct choice for them but i cba running the numbers on that
jade cipher
i noticed this a bit ago and choco mentioned maybe the boss just doesnt have arm...
Yeah this makes sense, because when it happens everytime you start to wonder
thx
idle ember
Is there anything to use gilded crests for if you are fully upgraded/have all crafted gear you can make?
clever belfry
spare flame
anyone else's afenar aura not loading? yesterday was just fine, i didnt change anything
alpine steppe
Mine's loaded.
narrow tide
are there any talent changes bec of the execute buff?
eternal sundial
anyone else's afenar aura not loading? yesterday was just fine, i didnt change a...
remember that includes fury+arms was
eternal sundial
are there any talent changes bec of the execute buff?
no
meager gyro
Warrior finally in mdi 
sullen dove
eternal sundial
@sullen doveu better cheer for our arms warlord
wispy dock
Is tmy playing arms? I’ve always seen him as an arms warrior
pure totem
wait war in mdi?! 😱
iron portal
War in mdi is ez cause tank
iron portal
War dps in mdi hasnt been a thing for some time
iron portal
I havent seen that one. Last one i saw was BFA
fiery hare
doesnt revvez play that stuff?
iron portal
Nerf rogue buff warrior
eternal sundial
doesnt revvez play that stuff?
no lmao
iron portal
Yea only theater now that you mention it
dire badge
also razonko like oldest man alive remembering bfa
eternal sundial
cuz he only does rwf
dire badge
👴
eternal sundial
ask the man himself
iron portal
We had good fun watching that
They almost won in Kings Rest
Im old. Getting to Todu's level
dire badge
real
winter shoal
If tmy wins this I'm playing arms for my keys the rest of the season
alpine steppe
Currently running AM MT with roar/rav. What does my opener look like with everything available in ST and AoE?
Unless I've somehow missed it WoWhead/Veins guides don't cover MT fully.
iron portal
If tmy wins this I'm playing arms for my keys the rest of the season
But im seeing him on warlock
What am i missing
winter shoal
What am i missing
He's armsman and I'm arms hater
They're kinda getting cooked though I fear
elfin vortex
question, with the buffs on BT are we prioritise it over RB at all times or still RB is prion?
fallen sedge
anyone else's afenar aura not loading? yesterday was just fine, i didnt change a...
some stuff broke with yesterday's hotfix, my Plater and interrupt tracker WA stopped working too
hardy cargo
does warrior do extra damage to 3rd boss of city of threads
he takes extra physical damage for some reason
winter shoal
question, with the buffs on BT are we prioritise it over RB at all times or stil...
BT in aoe, RB in ST until you have 3x bloodcraze
hasty tide
Mdi is always hilarious to watch how cracked other specs can be
elfin vortex
BT in aoe, RB in ST until you have 3x bloodcraze
ty a lot
vague copper
Been away since the day buffs landed on/in EU... What do we run now? :)..
Even between AM and RA as Thane or?
winter shoal
Yeah people seem to be having success with both AM and RA thane, and RA slayer as well
Haven't seen anyone running AM slayer in keys personally
modest condor
i feel like at this point noxiv is the only person left playing slayer
modest condor
he would probably do more dps if he took the time to get used to thane
but oh well
he plays it because he finds it more fun
winter shoal
Based
lean wasp
you guys think its worth it to switch my crafted sword for arms
hasty tide
If you pull big and good timing on your cds, slayer probably feels great in keys
Its small pulls or whiff your cds and you feel like hot garbage
Which thane is so much more forgiving
modest condor
slayer thrives in low keys, as keys get higher thane gets better
ebon junco
JÄVLA ping
frank dawn
but Imminent Demise buffed Bladestorms give me good Neuron activation
ebon junco
@eternal sundial
vague copper
Lugn!
modest condor
@ebon junco would have won if you played warrior
ebon junco
<@205978162293768192> would have won if you played warrior
real thats why we win next map
modest condor
real
frank dawn
that is a hefty crit
eternal sundial
modest condor
that boss damage to skarmorak tho sheesh
summer crater
For some reason I managed to do more on void speaker
eternal sundial
ofc arm
hasty tide
Arms
eternal sundial
better spec
hasty tide
Top kek
heavy dock
why are they playing a 9 lmao
winter shoal
Are the latest tuning changes from reset even on TR xdd
They weren't on PTR so I wouldn't be surprised
queen tapir
do you actually get runed crests by losing though ?
queen tapir
🤣
pseudo marlin
i mean its actually a good way to gear
since ur gonna run 100s of matches anyways
xD
win win situation
sadly pvp doesnt give vault anymore
sadge
maybe its only 1800+ mmr
but i didnt get em before
queen tapir
no clue bud
velvet canopy
Because Colossus big smash go boom
queen tapir
wont lie no clue what ability does arms have that is uncapped
modest condor
@ebon junco affix diff tbh
iron portal
Kek
ebon junco
<@205978162293768192> affix diff tbh
real
queen tapir
honestly arms dif
modest condor
biggest pull in the dungeon and you guys soaked 2 orbs
eternal sundial
who pulled the mob on endboss
radiant plank
Shoulda been a 12
eternal sundial
is the deer from s1 df again
astral path
for intimidating
eternal sundial
from HOV
astral path
shout
radiant plank
for intimidating
Leap cd
heavy dock
radiant plank
Tclap radius
astral path
tyty
heavy dock
cursed
ebon junco
who pulled the mob on endboss
?
radiant plank
well he asked
ebon junco
what mob
astral path
need tclap radius for first pull
eternal sundial
i c
ebon junco
when you want to snap 2nd pull
queen tapir
👏
dire oak
I feel like my next move is to change this belt? Any thoughts ?
eternal sundial
i c
steel vigil
LOL
dire badge
not very skibidi of him
restive peak
Nice try big dog, reppin warr big
iron portal
What is potfriends even
queen tapir
won in our hearts
iron portal
I would prefer the other win 
covert blaze
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1213326656371171410/1302002890428125214...
LOL
heavy dock
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1213326656371171410/1302002890428125214...
is that a fkin gm lmao
gleaming siren
it's a tournament admin
royal scarab
Is there a resource or list of useful macros for fury rotation or quality of life?
eternal sundial
in the wowhead guide ye
modest condor
so you watched 1 dungeon so far or?
weary sail
only Grim Batol, CoT, SV, and Dawnbreaker
radiant plank
Last round literally had a warrior smh
modest condor
we've seen warlocks, a boomkin, aug evoker, even a warrior
radiant plank
ofc arms
weary sail
we've seen warlocks, a boomkin, aug evoker, even a warrior
ye but that doesnt change the fact its still rogue enh DK comp is the vast majority
radiant plank
covert blaze
https://www.twitch.tv/gromnak/clip/TacitWonderfulChoughPanicVis-jwMsBLgw-YowKc6j...
bro didnt press w
errant estuary
Whats better slayer or thane in m+ with small pulls?
tardy lark
https://www.twitch.tv/gromnak/clip/TacitWonderfulChoughPanicVis-jwMsBLgw-YowKc6j...
Another for the vault
lean heart
https://www.twitch.tv/gromnak/clip/TacitWonderfulChoughPanicVis-jwMsBLgw-YowKc6j...
what the fuck 
velvet obsidian
Dunk on that frost DK 💪
astral path
hehehe
velvet obsidian
AM Slayer
velvet obsidian
astral path
triple stampede deaths
we wasted so much time
on going for the 10% vers buff
that doesnt exist anymore
ig
is it removed in high keys?
velvet obsidian
I had one in a +10 just this week. Unless they hotfixed it it should be there.
vague sierra
It was there in the 12 I did last night.
crude gate
Did you have someone who could unlock it
crude gate
Kekw
vague sierra
literally barred from timing then
crude gate
Prot pala damage kinda nutty
queen tapir
:/
night relic
the bar just wasnt there
U sure someone didnt missclick it before everyone got to it
crude gate
Slayer am just sucks to play anyway
queen tapir
yes true if you dislike cool down desync
iron portal
https://www.twitch.tv/gromnak/clip/TacitWonderfulChoughPanicVis-jwMsBLgw-YowKc6j...
That is so beautiful
stuck mason
Gromnak is peak entertainment
marble swift
What build was this
astral path
What build was this
RA thane
BRO
IT DIDNT BUG
THE HEALER
RAN PAST EVERYONE WHILE WE WERE KILLING ADDS
AND GOT THE BUFF BY HIMSELF 
HE BRICKED KEY NONE OF US GOT THE BUFF
velvet obsidian
How does that even work?
astral path
So cooked man
velvet obsidian
Is it limited range?
velvet obsidian
BRUH
astral path
He fucked us so hard man
ancient quiver
Holy fuck I dm him for u
astral path
His heals were good but that fucked us
velvet obsidian
healer pulled a DPS warrior and bricked the key. Holy
ancient quiver
astral path
velvet obsidian
No buff on the twins boss is so sketchy
queen jasper
If I were to play SMF, where would I find builds/stat prio on this?:D
astral path
The buff would have made last adds so nice
ancient quiver
If I were to play SMF, where would I find builds/stat prio on this?:D
Prob local truck stop restroom
astral path
I’ve never played smf
orchid dagger
If I were to play SMF, where would I find builds/stat prio on this?:D
at the end of a barrel, unfortunately
astral path
Maybe just stack haste and go slayer?
velvet obsidian
Wait, who died to the DoT? Mage?
astral path
Dk
ancient quiver
velvet obsidian
AMS that shit jesus
astral path
I think it was on cd or something I don’t remember
velvet obsidian
The caster DoT?
astral path
Yeah
And also the big explosion going at the same time
I swear RA thane feels so goofy and slow
velvet obsidian
Mage shaman and pali couldn't kick the DoT. You got scammed.
velvet obsidian
Oh ok, I was gonna say
astral path
Our cc and interrupts were great that dung
I even took intimidating and it payed off
velvet obsidian
Whatcha need iShout for?
velvet obsidian
Mmm
astral path
Saved us from a few free casts in dicey packs
remote cargo
astral path
No idea
remote cargo
its for the bracers
night relic
<:keks:936231610850897992>
Sounded odd that a dung mech didnt spawn
astral path
I think it’s ascendance and 2x embellishments for raid
And double verse for m+
But ascendance is Alr for both
I only see a few m+ maniacs run double vers
clever path
so fury still better than arms for m+?
fading sky
Nah stupid ppl run versa
astral path
Sounded odd that a dung mech didnt spawn
Yeah checked the logs and found the culprit
remote cargo
I think it’s ascendance and 2x embellishments for raid
Ok i go with X2 embellishment th en
fading sky
To hard 2 keep uo
astral path
True
fading sky
In m+
astral path
Unless you have a baller healer
Or have a lot of leech perhaps
Leech is kinda insane
past pivot
Leech not nearly as good as it was in DF.
fading sky
Or have a lot of leech perhaps
Doesbt help to much unavoidaboe dmg
fading sky
Doesnt insta go back up, just use acsendance
calm quartz
opaque cypress
fiery hare
brb poking my eyes out
wary coral
if someone wondering dps from Flame Wrath (polearm from BRD 626 in off-hand). Ara-Kara 12
queen tapir
So do people actually not invite you to queen
even if your main is curved?
like instantly declined is crazy no ?
dire vigil
++11 SV hype, AM slayer
queen tapir
++11 SV hype, AM slayer
ngl that looks god awful final dps
dire vigil
Can't be god awful if it's a ++ brother
queen tapir
true
covert blaze
ngl that looks god awful final dps
why the hate
covert coyote
Nah, that’s a satisfying looking overall. Tank at 1.1
marble swift
why are the gigachads on murlok io going back to slayer for m+?
dire vigil
I saw Noxiv was running it and I went back, so much more fun and probably some math with fierce followthrough and brutal finish after rampage and bloodthirst buffs
marble swift
im guessing we do bladestorm too
clever path
++11 SV hype, AM slayer
tank dmg xd
opaque cypress
hard to go back to slapping with whirlwind after thunderclapping and thunderblasting
dire vigil
tank dmg xd
Pain.
opaque cypress
hope thane is here to stay
radiant sentinel
Pally tank damage go brrrr
lament lagoon
ngl that looks god awful final dps
Link urs bigboi
queen tapir
sure i guess
clever path
hard to go back to slapping with whirlwind after thunderclapping and thunderblas...
and thane feels good specially for this tc tb applying ww while doing damage
lament lagoon
sure i guess
That’s barely more, and with an aug, cringe
queen tapir
yep 🙂
lament lagoon
A huh
frank wigeon
Hey was wondering if anyone has like bis ( non wowhead ) talent builds for Raid and Mythic+ by chance? for slayer and thane ( single target and multi target )
sand crest
whats this "non wowhead" nonsense
clever path
People assume guides don’t get updated
frank wigeon
I was more prefering like self made builds haha that are tested
jolly wing
For gems, am I supposed to be using one of each of the four (quick onyx, masterful emerald, masterful ruby, masterful sapphire) and then just duplicating those once I'm over four slots? Top parsing fury warriors are just sorta doing whatever
gloomy loom
are slayer better than MT actually? ppl are swapping to slayer on murlok 😮
sand crest
For gems, am I supposed to be using one of each of the four (quick onyx, masterf...
I do one of each color then for extra I do major mast/low haste gems, but it doesnt make a big diff anyway
frank wigeon
.> I suppose <.< just a preference lol
short silo
For gems, am I supposed to be using one of each of the four (quick onyx, masterf...
sim your character, thats what the top warrs do. Gems heavily depend on your own gear
jolly wing
sim your character, thats what the top warrs do. Gems heavily depend on your own...
I thought I was but it seems to like recommending whatever I'm already using
Probably punching it in wrong
short silo
do you have the box checked for "replace existing gems and enchants"
otherwise it will only sim w/e your gear has on
magic inlet
question about last boss of arakara. I've seen warriors leap out of the big pull in mechanic at the last second but every time I try to leap out, the boss just grabs me mid leap. Any helpful tips (other than get in the goo)?
inner harbor
question about last boss of arakara. I've seen warriors leap out of the big pull...
wait for the lil bounce
coral jewel
when playing thane i dont have to press whirlwind right just thunderclap/thunderblast will do the same?
pulsar snow
yes
cold silo
murlok . io is better than wowhead
mossy nimbus
Does anybody know if i can sim the ovinax trinket with "suboptimal" buff distribution? I heard it automatically sims with 20/10 stacks, but in reality i have the feeling that it more often than not has higher stacks than 20 for the STR buff.
Right now it sims better for me than same ilvl sacbrood, but i dont know if its actually better
sage lily
ayo, can someone throw me an opener sequence for odyns fury thane??
frank rover
its ok
summer quail
At least Prot is meta
uhh about that...
sage lily
i ahve do do top dps and havent played thane yet
warm crag
Does anybody know if i can sim the ovinax trinket with "suboptimal" buff distrib...
you can but you'd probs have to dig for the line somewhere
summer quail
@weary sail the prot pala overlords are here
rocky locust
bump
young swan
ayo, can someone throw me an opener sequence for odyns fury thane??
I think both wowhead and maxroll have those?
inner harbor
ayo, can someone throw me an opener sequence for odyns fury thane??
reck charge avatar roar thunder clap ravager rampage OF rampgae thunderclap into sunstain dps
torpid sand
ayo, can someone throw me an opener sequence for odyns fury thane??
Charge > Reck/Avatar > Roar > TC > Ravager > Rampage > OF > TC > Single
oh shit we said the same thing
inner harbor
twin
kindred swallow
yo should i switch umbriss band for that high nerubian signet?
weary sail
<@182941648416800768> the prot pala overlords are here
Wtfffff
floral belfry
Hello did Excute move up in prio list after buffs
young swan
no
coral jewel
is there any guide for crafting weapons/armor for warrior? I believe there was a way to use less on 2nd weapon or smthing?
young swan
i dont believe theres any way to save mats if you're crafting a 2nd weapon
torpid sand
Hello did Excute move up in prio list after buffs
ngl i don't ever press Execute as Fury
young swan
as thane*
torpid sand
Yeah
As Thane
sorry i only play thane now
never had that much fun in a while
i'm leveling a guardian druid and man
that shit is boring
i miss my prot war leveling
warm crag
hello @young swan
covert blaze
hello @young swan
torpid sand
Execute is a terrible skill as Thane, nothing buffs execute, and you always have TB/CB/BB/RB/BT available
Hell, BB alone does arguably more damage in single than Execute
You only press execute if you literally have nothing
Which is pretty much never
clever path
so you think fury thane is better than arms colossus?
torpid sand
That's my damage meter for a ++11 SV. This BB damage is what carries us
torpid sand
so you think fury thane is better than arms colossus?
In a M+ context? I wouldn't play Arms at all
rocky locust
TIL I press Execute like 10x more than I'm supposed to.
rocky locust
Critcake/Jeventes
Thanks. I'll check them out.
weary sail
Hello did Excute move up in prio list after buffs
Still ass
torpid sand
Execute need a rework for fury
pearl sequoia
i think it relys too much on marked for death but its not in a terrible position
stuck mason
Warr is my alt I just press execute when I have a proc am I doing it wrong
Playing RA slayer m+ build from wowhead
eternal sundial
Execute need a rework for fury
Just needs spell tuning on rb
sage lily
for thane sustain clap on every proc high prio right?
stuck mason
Lemme guess one was a mage
I feel like one out of every 10 mages I see in keys are actually pressing buttons
compact knot
tbh they made arcane a little aids to play in keys
but fire is so easy and frost is easy too
compact knot
i logged on my mage when 11.0.5 dropped and did 2m overall on my mage in a +10, people just are bad ig
stuck mason
Yeah I know they are capable but most of them are just not great
compact knot
its lowkey worth checking raid logs
stuck mason
Last time I played before this season was mythic nzoth and it seemed like they all cranked
summer quail
i logged on my mage when 11.0.5 dropped and did 2m overall on my mage in a +10, ...
oh 99% of mages are complete dogshit. that 1% is insane. 99% chance they are shit is not worth inviting for
sage karma
1. Fury warrior 628 ilvl
2nd Arcane mage 632
3. augment
622 ilvl, 2nd unholy 623, dunno what the shaman was
compact knot
shaman did 700k?
stuck mason
Damn my 621 mm hunter doubles that shaman’s overall lmao
compact knot
ofc
compact knot
ok that makes more sense
stuck mason
That’s pretty good for that ilvl
sage karma
It's not
stuck mason
I dunno I don’t know shit about shamans
sage karma
I was doing 900k-ish at that ilvl on my enhance
stuck mason
Haven’t they been nerfed since then
wary grove
yo should i switch umbriss band for that high nerubian signet?
sim it
keen fulcrum
Is Rash cloak not good for us?
shadow junco
hey folks! sorry if my question is a bit dull, but can fury warriors use the same crafted 2h weapon? for example, I played arms with a 619 charged claymore (with embelish), and now I wanna make a 2nd one (without embelish) - is that something I can do and equip the same two 2h swords or nah?
compact knot
Is Rash cloak not good for us?
not sure if you played season 2 of DF but its pretty much the same as the sporecloak but not as good
its not the best dps item in that slot, but brings a good amount of survivability
also its probably the best as of right now, esp if you arent clearing mythic fully yet and can only get like first 4, cloak is one of the last slots you want to spend crests on and getting that item means you dont need to spend crests on that slot
tidal kindle
young swan
yeah thats true
steel geyser
as far as socket'ing is it not important to do 1 of each different gem to amplify the meta gem?
should i be still shooting for mast/haste gem in all? or do one crit mast and haste mast and stam mast?
.15% crit effect isn't a ton
steel geyser
move speed better than crit effect??? just for versitility of having higher movement
...
i feel like that might be a joke
trim hound
I mean culminating gives less than 1% crit damage fully stacked, right?
young swan
correct
its 0.5% crit damage
or some shit
its like 0.1% damage
completely irrelevant
trim hound
Yeah, at some point utility is just better than minor dps 😄
sudden tusk
the move speed OWNS
you also get a free point from fleet footwork to put anywhere else
becuase the crit% is poopie
hardy gale
what is the net change from 11.0 to 11.0.5 they have some production changes every day I can't keep up
trim hound
Speaking of move speed. Is there any weird interactions / way of stacking when it comes to move speed?
I'm playing Dark Iron Dwarf. Does Fast Footwork 5% + Racial 4% + Gem % stack additively or what
shrewd osprey
i have a question regarding the use of BT with AM Thane, in AoE do you use BT on cd? and on ST do we spam raging blows to get crit chance for BT or do we also spam BT on cd there?
shrewd osprey
ok thank you
modest condor
free 8%(10?) move speed
doesnt stack with frenzied enrage, which everybody obviously plays because playing fury with low haste feels like shit
fringe vale
tit feel snice imo
unless u have lots of haste from gear and u can go with powerfull
fringe vale
there are some warriors who got like 19-20k haste baseline
no buffs
add to that the 8% of frenzy
- the flask when it hits haste
- the oils
modest condor
there is no amount of haste on my gear that can make me go powerful
fringe vale
same
lost saffron
@warm crag I need a boost please help me
fringe vale
but there are some who can
warm crag
im sure there are a lot of skyholdians who will boost you
fringe vale
ara kara egg + trasnmiter+ sikran ultra rare neck + the gb ring that has giga haste
warm crag
hello @young swan
lost saffron
Who did you play with
hard widget
Patrick
hard widget
He was playing an evoker alt
lost saffron
So you blasted
hard widget
I was on mage alt
lost saffron
because of him
hard widget
No he was healer kekw
fringe vale
dragon ball daima fridays 
pliant jackal
Dude M+ 10 feel too low for M Thane
lost saffron
It is saturday
fringe vale
friday here
hard widget
I saw that yes
lost saffron
Are you going out today?
hard widget
I've been playing from 2 pm
pliant jackal
I feel like shit dies too quickly even on 10 for Mountain Thane anyone else feel the same way?
zealous oracle
do you guys stay arms spec for vault or fury? Trying to get that 2h sword from grim, better chance if arms spec for vault?
zealous oracle
yeah but then i get all the crit pieces too 😦
pliant jackal
?
hard widget
U get exactly the same gear
young swan
what
hard widget
Except u dont get 1h weps
young swan
thats not how setting your loot spec works
pliant jackal
lost saffron
Jeventes with the bait and switch
zealous oracle
alright alright
lost saffron
Almost had Xan malding
hard widget
Jeventes with the bait and switch
Wdym
Ohh
Bro if i want xan malding i just call him french
lost saffron
compact siren
@oblique trail SchmoffelMagus wants a boost
gilded pawn
thank god we are so back
Better cuz dh buffing the other two but not fury
simple mural
Is the rotation/priority on wowhead still accurate for Thane AM build?
pliant jackal
coral jewel
btw when playin fury thane with Berserker's Torment my Burst isRceck + Thunder Roar and then when avtar wears off I press Avatar? is this correct
or does the +sec add up
snow edge
No, no need to stagger; they stack
coral jewel
ahhh nice gothca ty
half kettle
just send it
coral jewel
sending it
half kettle
ty
coral jewel
doubled my dmg by crafting wep and getting 610 wep
feels so much better (had 2x 571 xD)
opaque falcon
When they gonna update the talents on wowhead
lost saffron
When they gonna update the talents on wowhead
Whats not updated?
opaque falcon
So nothing changed since the buff
cold silo
You asked for them to update
for one thing it has an error saying vers mastery is best in slot offhand when it is haste mastery
snow edge
BiS gear lists are a guide; there is no guaranteed 'BiS OH'
sudden tusk
for one thing it has an error saying vers mastery is best in slot offhand when i...
if you are simming that may be your best stats rn
snow edge
It's completely dependent on your own set-up
sudden tusk
for example vers/mas is simming higher then haste vers on a ring for me
summer quail
for one thing it has an error saying vers mastery is best in slot offhand when i...
vers has been pretty good for us for a long time
gilded pawn
Weapon substats matter so little
bold plank
so ovinax trink is good for fury? was that always a thinng?
half kettle
its solid yea
summer quail
so ovinax trink is good for fury? was that always a thinng?
yes, very good. it has not always been a thing, trinket got buffed several times
bold plank
do u pop at like 15 15 or
summer quail
actually outsims my sacbrood by a tiny bit. if it drops i'm just gonna pass. cba
half kettle
i did 20
robust basin
Is Bloodtwister Thane now or still slayer
grim prism
bros what are your strats to get into +12s
wispy dock
play prot kek
clever path
I love when people don’t understand stats at all. And try to claim they know better than people that do hours upon hours of math and testing
clever path
bros what are your strats to get into +12s
Be a paladin or a prot tank kek
trim hound
bros what are your strats to get into +12s
have friends who do 12s
glad coyote
bros what are your strats to get into +12s
just do 12's?
and i have a premade i push with
actually 2
hasty tide
ive had more luck in pugs than my usual key group kekw
everyone taking it too casual this tier
gilded pawn
Have you tried posting a key
There are infinite people that are more qualified
Especially dps
Why would I want to take a war that’s done all 11s when I can take a war that’s done all 12s
grim prism
so u recommend pushing my own key
half kettle
yeah i mean signup sheet for a 12 is prob like 25 dps all with 11s or 12s done and like 630+ ilvl
oversaturated
half kettle
and if group already has a prot war...whats fury really bring to the group
gilded pawn
But 10 and 12 is so easy to fill
grim prism
alright bros, ill push my key, thanks for the recommendaation
brazen sinew
can anyone tell me which weakaura to use to track bloodcraze/bloodthirst crit chance
north edge
I recommend rerolling ret
I’m at 3018 IO on my ret reroll, now I can get into any 12 I want on my war
Since it’s showing my main IO being so much higher
Before that, no chance I could get into any 12
keen fulcrum
Y'all think a 616 Skarmorak Shard + 619 Transmitter beats a 626 Mandate/619 Transmitter in M Brood?
north edge
Y'all think a 616 Skarmorak Shard + 619 Transmitter beats a 626 Mandate/619 Tran...
Save yourself some sanity and get a sac brood lol
keen fulcrum
Not sure how i'd sim that
keen fulcrum
Save yourself some sanity and get a sac brood lol
Brother i've triiieeeed.
This shard is the best i've gotten to a 2nd AoE trink.
snow edge
You're not running Thane on M Brood, but 2 on-use trinkets will likely be better since you're really just there to dump on adds
snow edge
Don't be a dwarf spongie, gross
keen fulcrum
I'm earthen 😦
warm crag
then play am slayer treach skarm i dont see the problem
snow edge
He was just asking if Mandate or Shard would be better really
keen fulcrum
Yeah I just wasn't sure how to sim it.
warm crag
cant really sim broodtwister
esp the adds dying all the time part for the skarm secondary effect
snow edge
Don't really need to sim it; Shard will likely be better for what you're doing on Brood, which is just bulk add damage
Alternating on-use you should have 1 up for each set of adds
fresh cape
i dont have any crafted gear yet for fury just swapped to it from prot, what do uguys recommend, weapons?
snow edge
Weapon, bracers or belt for second embellishment, then ring / neck or whatever slot gives you the biggest increase
Generally don't recommend crafting 2 weapons, big resource sink
fresh cape
yeah i still need another spark lol
unreal onyx
ez 1.2mil
lament lagoon
hawt
unreal onyx
or a helm you will never replace for the rest of the season
lament lagoon
hrd hoicee ngl
choice*
this what i got rn
which is not bad
Nah im selling it
sullen dove
yea 1 socket and barely changing stats ain’t worth what you get fo dat
warped bone
Even less so. Seeing chances are a socket will be taken from vault if vault is shit 😄
fresh cape
is dungeonslice reliable to sim for M+?
void willow
Eh not really from what I was told, id just do 5 target bosses
fiery jetty
Ppl from fury family... actually what're u going into mythic++ thane or slayer?
or u rotation depend the key
cerulean cradle
I think thane is the way to go now
storm rune
Thane has theoretical higher damage, but they're close enough that it's basically a matter of preference, slayer is nice because it lets me turn my brain off
fiery jetty
Thane has theoretical higher damage, but they're close enough that it's basicall...
if u want to do ST wich one is ur choices?
chilly fractal
Big sad I didn't read they got rid of the 3rd roots on Heroic Queen
Missed out on using Bladestorm on the 2nd set
fiery jetty
Like for example the dungeon DB
chilly fractal
Big Sad
glad coyote
Ppl from fury family... actually what're u going into mythic++ thane or slayer?
mostly thane, from some one with 11's all timed and pushing 12's. I will play slayer for the higher burst in mists
keen fulcrum
Absolute fuck this fight.
storm rune
ST they're practically equal, though thane gets increased prio damage through funnel in aoe so it's a mixed bag
gilded pawn
Do they actually funnel
chilly fractal
I love Mists as Thane
odd star
I thought slayer had better prio damage
storm rune
It's kirkland brand funneling
hollow mirage
Hi all, hope well, quick question, the last boss on Arak, how does a warrior break out of the stun, i used to run Slayer which allowed me to charge out of it, but now with MT i dont know how to insta break it before she casts her stupid webs T.T