#fury
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hi
Damn, even the good warriors getting it now
🪤
Yikes
🤣
i can see 1 new guild killing ansurek with an outlaw this week
i dont think it was big enough to trivialise the boss enough, they had to be p close already
God gamer. Dw about it
Did they have an outlaw in other kills or nah?
but its one thing to kill it normally and have your rogue go out of his way to exploit no?
Ansurek is more of a mechanics check then a DPS check
ofc it's not really cool or acceptable, but the 4/8>8/8 claim was insane and even saying "some" killed it is a bit of a stretch
Even if my guild gets to ansurek at the 18% buff I don't expect it to be that easy
One outlaw alone isn’t changing that, just saved time on progging DPS optimization
it helped 1 guild get their first kill so far by the looks of it
and they only had 1 outlaw
i was just making it clear that guilds arent stacking 5 outlaw rogues with barely any mythic experience and getting a free CE (hof even)
the end of this raid is still really hard lmao
Im home now, show me the buffs guys pls
Baited myself smh my head
why would you stop at 5 XD
Bc rogues can’t break their own roots p1
unfort
Fury stonks up
but tbf those roots will vanish with 20 bte dispatch blade flurrys every second
Still more hassle then just playing it “correctly” I think
Surely we get buffs 
to uh
It took me 20 minutes to get invited into 2 keylevels lower than i timed 😦
and aura nerf 3% arms while they are at it
ANLAKI
its not enough btw
XD
no but it's what they'll do
nah i'm calling it 5 target perma cap roar of
cuz probably chatgpt tab responsible for tuning seen ansurek webs
Yoo guys u know where i can find some builds because i find some new build on wowhead but they remove the multitarget 🥲
here's the critcake tm build
be aware that he rerolled to death knight ( as you should )
because on wowhead they put this build but they remove improved wirlwind
iam speaking about raid builds
thats st raid build
I have a FDK but im unfortunately the only Battle shout left in the raid 🤣
the battle shout jail
check dps faq channel
We honor your sacrifice
Cheerleader warrior
🫡
oh ye buddy
thank you
got lucky. started to play last monday. kekw
rest in peace rallying cry
you died so shamans could have it permanently
😔
gone but not forgotten
Bring back DF warrior
at this point i think we gonna get nerfed during legion classic
honestly I'd take any other warrior at this point
Real
🤤
bring back real frothing berserker
Bring back warrior.
keep warrior in the dirt
soft
I will announce to the four winds how much wayor sucks now and then complain about people not inviting wayor because wayor sucks
I have 800k
i had 2.5mil
but blizzard added something really expensive to the store so i had to buy a couple of tokens
Token is 475k now btw
WoW Tokens are worth 400k right now #worldofwarcraft #warcraft #thewarwithin #warwithin #mmorpg #mmo #shorts
Reminds me of leggo in DF 
I had to spend 350k
Was later but not too late
I think blizz was warning me in DF thiugh
I got leggo in 10 tries on my warrior
And 1st try
On my paladin
1month and 2weeks in DF for me
didnt skip any LFR/NM/HM
Doing HC gave u all reward chances from normal and lfr
on what its 385k lol
eu atleast
i bought some tokens to get gold but they arent selling did i just get cucked
na just wait a bit
it took 2-3 hours for me to sell 2 at 434k
they're just like normal items
a lot of people are buying tokens now to sell for gold
so supply is higher than demand
insert money game song
how so
arent ehy selling at 380k rn?
thats just how it works
buyer pays 380k u get 413
Anti market manipulation
it's almost cheaper than buying on G2G
@mossy fox is it time to go again? considering the state of Warrior
hmm
Raiden is smf tho.
You could argue he's also a Fury warrior maybe
could also argue playing uh
i'm not sure about the uh thing
he activates recklessness mid game and stays mad
He's good at proccing UF
but enough nonsense, time to play jetstream Sam in league of legends
Kinda crazy uptime
are peeps starting to use Nerub-ar Finery in raid yet? can't see anything on warcraftlogs
They have been using the buff since last week yes
what a style
would though
does it say anything on warcraft whos using what or im i dumb and blind?
Not sure if it shows up in warcraftlogs
But it's safe to assume everyone is using it every 2 weeks with an extra stack of it
Do we have shit tier patch notes yet
raiden's definitively not a post BFA arms
ok, tanks for your time
thanks*
No please wait a few days, so we can enjoy warrior in its OP state for a bit longer 
Before they nerf it
Tbh if it gets any worse we should riot
If only world PvP was still a thing 😦
Perma burn storm wind/orgrimmar to the ground
The Flame Wrath Weapon is pretty much bis or ?
no
Zul gurub disease everything
When it's already Friday and the next warrior nerfs haven't been announced yet
on single target, yes
bros the anger management build basically has no other changes for slayer, ya?
Were op right now?
lol
Blizzard thinks so
when was the last time we rioted
I dont think we give af
you just play the class in a shit state and move on

bros ill be honest with you, fury feels "fine" for me
Do you have details installed
but i main arms, so maybe im just used to a bit more shit than usual
Did you play the launch fury
Cuz the difference in damage during CDs is appaling
nah didnt catch launch fury thank god

WHAT DO YOU MEAN THANK GOD
Only time it remotely did good dam
i think if i played launch fury, i'd always be chasing that "rush" that may never happen again for the rest of the expansion
he doesnt know what he missed
Ye
im enjoying fury more rn than in heroic week
I mean it's inverse to arms where it stinks most of the expansion
I mean thane is funny, but HC week we did big dam
Sadge
i prefer content that actually matters
thane sims higher for me on m+, but i dont trust the sims that much
doing big dam in easy content still felt like waiting room for the actual season :(
I mean even HC raid week
can anyone explain to me how to use spell reflection effectively please?
spell reflect essentials weakaura, tells you when something reflectable is being cast on you
otherwise just using it when taking heavy magic damage is really effective
you can also check the spreadsheet in the prot pins for everything in current raid/dungeon pool that is reflectable
does it have any utility as dps
yes
you can reflect splice on last boss cot, you can reflect almost any bolt/spell cast directly on you
abyssal blast from the lieutenants in dawnbreaker is a big one
and then just the 20% magic damage reduction is honestly really big
I spam for that 20% Dr all the time
bro lieutenants is the most bs thing to spell along with writng vs pronunciation of colonel
innit
Lmao apparently I lack education because I have never once in my life heard someone say “leftenant”
just go watch any movie or show with british military
thats cursed
i think it's less and less common/more americanised
but still used in the military afaik
imagine calling someone a leftenant and then writing it like lieutenant
english makes no sense
Colonel
kernel
Kernul
Grey Poupon
love LFR scaling
so is AM now the go to for m+?
Meh
It’s easier to stay RA
@chrome plover SFX of wildfire bomb is so good
guys is RB > BT when playin anger management with mountain thane ?
i feel like i start doing less dmmg whenevr i press BT as prio
yea we should let a lvl 37 tank LFR with lvl 80s, scaling should be fine
it gets kinda annoying ngl
Not the 2 empowered BT from thane talents
what buff stacks
I mean the Crit buff
do i just consume at 70% crit or some shit
Hitting it over 80 is pretty good
BT can generate thunder blast and RB cant is generally why its favored
that's another thing but i swear whenevr i started pressing BT pre rb my dmmg went down by 100K
especially in ST
so something like this?
drop the reck talent
go 2 vc
wiat
go 2/2 mastery drop haste for the crit i think?
Is there a big difference for you playing single target vs multi target talents in raid for a single target encounter (sikran, princess)? I don't drop in dps if I keep Odyns Fury in single target instead of spear...is it just me?
wtf
whats bro cooking
Not much at this point i feel xD
had a blodd dk kill the boss in3 hits, did 80m dps
no i like it
"everyone" is a strong word
Og RA slayer is still good
by everyone i mean top 10 in raider io
It’s also easier to play
i just checked their latest talents
That’s what I was doing until the punch to the guts OF took so I’m toying with various builds to find my zen of Ugg smash again
im running thishttps://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148897941883584512/1288239276525617213/image.png?ex=671cab91&is=671b5a11&hm=66ed682ec94df4879687e60668cad2c177bd6165e8f6ae894d6a2e87a15a478d&
Just trying to keep it simple and consistent ya know
Thanks @mossy fox
noxiv is still running the old slayer
Not trying to stress it unless on M prog
noxiv propably running with 2 ele sham
no need for sustained dmg bc everything dies too fast anyway

fair 😛
trying to progress, but whatever i do I'm lacking
but i think that's the case for most of us atm
I log 99 while beeing bottom dps i love our spec
shammy is freaking nuts, good run though
Why is the prot pally doing tank dmmg
LMAO
Massive tank with overalls like that
ahaha
Pog!
ye we getting closer and close to their dam
Anyone elses queens mandate not do damage at all sometimes
Last time i checked they were outdpsing fury warr every 2 packs
No
or either they're getting closer
Using it on 2 diff chars no issues
I literally pop it and it doesnt hit sometimes
to bef air, their damage is broken
You have to press the on use

Oh wow thanks man i didnt know
we wouldn't know anything without Brewjj to show us the way
Did Fury get 100% buff yet
They’ll probably announce aura nerf today
Nope, another nerf inbound because you asked
Thank your local dratnos
It’s about damn time
im coping, next week we get buffed!
what did he do this time?
Doubt we get any tuning
Tried justifying our nerfs by showing broodkeeper, rashan, & queen logs with fury on top
You know the fights where mini adds die in our burst window frequently
St dmg gets reduced next Week or aura nerf because we do not hit like completely wet paper yet

right so the literal only thing we can do to stay competitive
Lmao did he really say this?
I usually enjoy his content but that take definitely left a sour taste
This guy even have 2k io yet?
"Fury warriors keep complaining about the nerf but you are still stronger than ele with PI"
dogshit ele with pi
Best part is how we aren't even on the top in any of them on mythic
?
Not to mention we werent even the best spec on Ovinax, a fight that people say is designed for fury
The only time I’m on top during mythic brood prog is when one of the DKs or Ele fucks up their aoe and I get to juice it
Otherwise I’m 4th always
amen
to be fair, almost all of the fights with cleave windows have the timing really nice to line up with our bursts... but that's really just padding. our effective damage is dogwater
youtube.com sratnods
Our dk isnt that good so hes usually not above me. But dont worry rogue and shaman are comfortably there
mythic Ovinax 95 fury log is the same as assa 93 log
feels bad man
especially since the rogue has like 20% more dmg than me on kyveza
Then we'll have the special people come say fury is great because they're 630 playing with 620 heroic pugs
is OF just unplayable now?
Ret is also slept on
Because they're very solid on aoe fights but also very good single-target
We have two rets and a hpal
Bop is so good
I get one like every add set with full CDs

I love how BoP is like…the forgotten Pali CD
And it’s godlike
Rally looks real good compared to rets 4th CD that can save someone
nah I just hate the button
👌
dabu
zug zug
Hi guys I have question regarding the opener with Mountain Thane. As with Ravager there is a moment where we generate tons of rage, I am unsure on how to use my abilities there. What I mean is the following: should I prioritise avoiding capping rage by using rampage, or is it better to ensure a Crushing Blow even though I am capping a lot of rage? I hope I explained myself good enough
If you're running RA you want to spend crushing blow and bloodbath between each rampage. Even if you cap rage
Does the timing on Ovi work out better to pop cds 3-4 seconds before pulling ? Using the AM slayer build
Also Bloodbath? Okay, I have been doing this wrong
I assume this is the same with Slayer as well
Yeah
With AM you want to dump as many rampages as possible. But spending rampage at around 110 rage prevents some rare times when you run out of buttons
Great, many thanks!
For me opportunist was slightly worse on my character sim compared to the BT node instead in a pure ST slayer build but I'm not sure what sim logic was being used for pressing bloodbath because it sounds like the sim does something different with bloodbath lately
I'll have to run my character in the sim again tonight to see if it's different
why is ravager played now instead of bladestorm? was it buffed? :p
you can do your rotation while ravager
Ravager is only played as Thane
Yeah but you got people talking about not even pressing bloodbath when above 100 rage and not in execute phase
whats different about thane that favours ravager
The difference is what Gio said mostly
That you can do your rotation during Ravager
oh because slayer has the bladestorm speed increase
yo
In particular as Thane this is a big deal, as you want to avoid overcapping Thunder Blast procs, which you can't with Bladestorm
didnt ravager used to give strength back in df
It did through Hurricane
I just noticed it doesnt anymore
Hurricane however doesn't exist anymore
🤣
Man this is so redicouless, i sit in the queue for 20 minutes to finally get invited to keys i timed weeks ago
🤡
no worries jeventes
🙂
They will surely not nerf us more today
🤣

banezi is it still a damage increase to ramp cb over bb unless its 95% crit
It's only a very small increase to do this during Reck
Rule of thumb I just CB > BB > Ramp regardless
Even without opportunist?
yeah
It’s so bad I redownloaded League
i do it because nothing else to do during cds
I got quicker invites to 10s on a 610ish FDK than a 628 fury
Haven’t even touched my warrior outside of raid this week
625 with 2500 rio getting this all the time even on 8s
I still have to fill my vault every week since the only purpose I have for gearing my character is mythic raid
And at this point catching up on another character would take too long
May be a forced socket week for me lmao. I just don’t want to play it
If it was easier to catch up on myth track items without wasting my guilds time during reclear I would probably swap to rogue
Assa is fun
Getting into even 10s is practically impossible with pugs at 625/2500
I have a week and a half at 80 on FDK and I just got my mainhand to 636 crafted and about 614 ilvl. Not too bad. Was able to pull a myth cape from vault to stay as much on track to get full myth track as I can on a fresh 80
Unless you use your own key
i tank gb 10s
??
hello?
Invite me
@queen tapir what is it?
Ohhh nice
I’m confused
Delete him
Well what’s your ele io at?
Why’s you FotM reroll to here?
You swaped from ele to fury
Fart of the month
Your style is to play the worst dps in wow?
Reverse FoTM roll is real bis
Man I have been playing fury for like years
this was the only expansion
I did not start with it
Reroll warlock they’re somehow doing worse
Bro is cooked
I am not cookexc
If your ele is high io, other people will see that
I play the game for fun
Warlock slapping in my mythic raid tbf
In group finder, which could help
Imagine playing the game
The game plays us
Sounds like a prot thing
The devs play with us
Warrior player base being furious over the state of balance is true RP and class fantasy
I say we all regear prot and start bricking keys like a pandemic until blizzard buff zug
Done, Already doing that
Imagine a 603 ilvl fury
has a +10 key
refused to be invited to 4-5's
gearing is impossible
denied to heroic raids
stuck in a loop rn
I think you’re sandbagging gear ngl
what do you mean sandbagging
I crafted a weapon and a wrist
i am trying to get more shit to craft a neck
Imagine a 2200 617 ilvl warrior that cant get in a +7
🤣
Removing your gear to make your ilvl look low
now stop imagining cause that’s me
removing gear 🤣
Did you buy a key carry or something????
How do yall feel about the transmitter? I feel like I always pop it into the swirls
Then I just stare at it
Sounds like BS ngl. There are 620 fury’s here who are good players who can’t get in those groups.
Make your own key group, and stay as tank, then when some dps and healer join swap back to dps
Profit


yea for sure pugs will inv a 603 fury for their 10s
my man
+9's are easy
if you are unable
how does mountain thane opener look like for m+? i think wowhead might be outdated
I wouldn’t take you in a 4 lmao
im not saying they are impossible, but why would any pug prefer a undergeared fury over other applicants
I mean ye for sure but pugs wont invite sub 620s for 10s nowadays and its a fact
I am trying to enter 4''s 5's
Lolxd
not 9''s not 10''s not 5's
non of that shit
I am not applying to thos at all
How’d you get the key? Or you just lying about the 10?
i am even tryign to apply to +3's
I think they talking about how you got your key
Ah I just made my own group
then it doesn't matter and ppl are going after imginary god comps for their low keys
is that a AI generated pug`?
they should take my 550 ilevel warrior with 600 io into keys imo
The only pugs that might
When i made my tank last week i was making my own groups and tanked a +8 at 587
No it’s a kul Tiran fury warrior
thats it
Had a few ppl leave when they joined but the key went fine
Also, quick question, does as Mountain Thane, does it make any difference whether I use first Ravager or Thunderous Roar?
I don't think it does, but asking just in case
Jesus christ exterminate that abominable fiend
maybe roar first to reduce overcapping with ravager but i wouldnt know
why is there allowed to be a 600k gap in ST between the highest and lowest dps
between fire and enh
I mean sure I guess
here you go
🤣
actually the grim batol that I did to get this to 10
almost depleted as well
Not even the lowest ilvl in the group
I hit the button that lights up
Who is hating on who
Let guess, you're 15-20 ilvls above em? 
Burying the lead, Jeventes 633 ilvl, FDK 585 ilvl
Was just a guess but figured something like that
I'm just teasing cause it's been the trend. Lol
633.75 is about what I’m at… both my trinkets and chest are hero track so I at least know I have some meaningful gains to get still
wdym what is pala none of you guys did damage lol
Ppal is kinda huge now
How dare you
We aren't as dead as initially thought once we moved points around and such
But to perform at 95% of others you need to play perfectly and the spec is extremely fast paced (ADHD brain happy
)
have to say the blizzard is doing great with these talent choices
for ele you can choose like 20 other talent builds
feelsgoodman
I think 47 is what the wowhead post said iirc never mind it wasn’t a wowhead post idk where I read it
Should I be trying to get this?
Cheers
Good for pure st
I would assume if it’s replacing a 626 offhand it could be better in MT depending on target count
But would have to sim to be sure
MT likes secondaries
what happen
hey everyone quick question.
is there any UI that tracks all buffs on me and debuffs on the target (related to damage dealing)
weakaura or what ever
not looking for a UI revamp just having t he debuffs/buffs on the screen.
As in Weakauras? Or plater? Both?
prefering WA
Not really no
Plater is a good way to track debuffs on enemies nameplates (it replaces default nameplates and there’s thousands of profiles for it on wago)
And WAs would be good for tracking your own buffs
Omnicd?
For you
There are some content creators that offer all inclusive UI mods (weakauras, plater profile, elvui profile, omnicd profile, etc) that tracks all that stuff for you, but usually they are paid for
Highly recommend one of the popular UI suites
Just gotta hop in his discord
They configure all that for you
And it’s very easy to read and understand
My preference is NaowhUI but the others are just as good
Quazzi’s is free witch is a bonus
thanks everyone
Jevui BiS
Or you can decide you like the wowui
Source trust me bro
We just found an AM thane build that works, it's time to let OF die though
And make everything much more difficult for yourself in recreating all the features of the ui packages haha
Works how?
We love ignoring our capstone talents
Does good damage, good AOE+ST, CDs every pack etc
Feels great
Nooooo
no OF = no me
how do you just figure that out
Man fuck OF it's the 1 thing I'm not even sad about
no of = yes me
You play around with talents and run things til it clicks
It’s a good button come on
What's the talent build?
play with sims and play test in game
Every button gives me the same dopamine, I care about performance
Anyways
i don't care about OF really
Where is this new build posted?
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ty
but if i hit SLAM I AM PISSSED!!!1!!!1!
Better than non-am thane?
Not in game right now and curious, will someone screenshot this in game for me
I have been running thane cuz I don't like the desyncing of BS, just feels clunky to me
ITS DIFFERENT OK CHOCO IT DOESNT SAY RAMPAGEEEEE
Why is jeventes back to slayer lmao
IDK he prefers it probably
me when filler just does damage bs does damage with both weapons so its better
It's super close, I don't like the slayer bladestorm desync compared to the reck/rava 30s thing
But I don't think you're timing or not timing a key when going thane vs slayer tbh
Can we get a little pin action going on here
Like Biz is running thane, but RA
I like low priority execute, fuck that button.
RB is kinda low prio in this build tbh
Is everything dropping OF across the Thane/Slayer variants now
Mostly I think, OF is just very weak now
It's been nerfed too much for ST, and the cap means it's kinda pointless for M+
we have too many aoe cds
I'll be playing this build for silken personally
Are you swapping the hero talent that give blast on rek
Nope
Nah that's a huge dps loss lol
blast on reck talent is dogshit
1 TB on reck
or Lightning strike on every TB
literally easy choice
WHO SNITCHED US OUT https://did-my-husband-buy-bruto.com
Website to check if your husband bought the new Gilded Brutosaur mount.
I NEED someone to interview the owner of this site
Jokes on them your partner would have to know your name and realm
brokie
You just gotta get money to waste then
Rob a bank
Set up an only traps
How often does reck/rav sync with roar?
You just gave me a stroke before that edit I’m not gonna lie brother
Wouldn’t you just send avatar with roar
I'd rather send you $90 to meme on Grom 1 entire raid night on stream
It's not even the money, it's just pointless lol

Like 75% of raiders/M+ers bought it, my group will always have 1
Always
They go down to 30s, use every 1.5m, every 2m, 2.5m, 3m etc
though this argus intro questline isnt working bc of some dumbass phasing shit
Oh that’s big then!
idk how to get to the right phase
I'm sittin ansurek 1st kill and doin silken too, I actually like the swap offs
The amount of times someone in raid doesn’t have enchant or dungeon without mana oils or health pots
Now no excuse
any condemners in chat
It's kinda nice to not sweat prog every boss
Ohhh?
Sorry if this is already written down somewhere but what is the best overall Fight Style for Fury to sim with Raidbots?
🐌
I usually sim 1T 5min in the raid cleave build for droptimizer
For an aoe sim you’d probably do 5T 1.5min
jewerly > pixel
Do you have to stick around on discord for mental reps or is your night freed up?
Easier to resell that jewelry
^
Well it also has qol functionality for the life span of the game
But either way they’re totally milking wallets
Would that be the Hectic Cleave option?
Ah yes all women only splurge on jewelry
Authority of the depths vs radiant power for M+ or should i rock a mix of both
Fucking hell man
wimmen
Oh always Patchwerk
just like all men only splurge on brutosaurs 
Some people do dungeonslice as well in a M+ build
Ah okay so Patchwerk and then 5 bosses
Nah we can do w/e we want
I pay attention in case DCs happen etc but like I either do M+ or go chill w the wife
They are gonna make tens of millions selling this mount, how much of that will go back in the game I wonder
And if needed I come back
@restive peak Damn, this build not even using Powerful Enrage?
It's going to the CEOs raise
Nope and thank god
Nice
If you ran PE you wouldn't get the 30s reck/rav
Is it doing well in aoe?
They’re all just points of reference really for upgrades I personally think Patchwerk 1T 5min is the best option
I was directly tied w fdk/fmage in a 14 DB last night, as in we literally ended 1.66 1.66 1.65
Maybe we’ll finally get that remastered draconic avenger
sheesh, that's pretty nice
And these are always title holding people in equal gear
was the dk afk?
seems like the dk was just bad
I'm not better than them
or you had no shaman buff
He's literally a top ranked DK who gets title every season, so no he isn't bad
They could use 1% of the sells to hire a fucking testing team
They could but they won't
Honestly everyone who was moaning and claiming the sky is falling the past week who went and bought that mount yesterday is...yeah
Microsoft ownership now they’ll be milking wallets with these cosmetics all the time
bozos
Watch
I love this game and I refuse to pay them shit until they fix like everything
That's what I usually do ye! Was wondering about any specific M+ or a raid encounter with multiple add spawns
Lincc, have you thought about spear instead of TR?
NO
bugs on its own arent the biggest issue its the MASSIVE gamebreaking exploitable bugs that are annoying as fuck
Do not wish this on us
also how did enhance shaman randomly have their aura nerfed on accident?
Burn heathen!
how did they “lose” the feral buffs
My guild does 7 minute casting patchwerk and then I upload stats to readycheck io for loot sim analysis and lootsheet
(and not apply not enabled in pvp)
Ah that is interesting also, I just got raidbot premium and am trying to get droptimizer to give me the best options! Thanks
fuckem
Fuckem
Hey so far we went from BFA and SL to DF and TWW
LOL
HAHAHAHA
Let them milk if that trend continues
Funnily enough it also didnt let me refund Bruto until I made a ticket
I do a droptimizer for whatever difficulty we’re doing that night and then choose the option to upgrade all current gear and lootables to max ilvl, run the sim, and then copy paste to readycheck
Botted acc smh
Accidentally used Paypal instead of Bnet balance
Good shout! Will keep that in mind
bad times
What do people even bother botting anymore
Ye fair
The fact that they did this banwave after a day and not a couple weeks is somewhat honorable though
They could've easily waited a couple weeks for more bots to buy in
Probably botted cloth farming or some shit
Especially first week you easily made 5M a day with that garbage
Downside was you had to play boomkin
Not big enough to hit everything consistently so no
I’m the kinda guy who drops spear @ cursor right as the tank is pulling the boss to a new location
So now I just spear @ self
Man I hate spear
I wish we got AA
Spear can just die fr I don't care
I don’t like spear because you can’t have it automatically be thrown at your target
So it’s an annoyance
No you cannot
Oh
Only @player
Or cursor
Maybe spear should just work like elden ring seppuku AoW and we stab ourselves and then do more damage
I do at player too and just wait until I'm at the target
Blizzard would make it so you have to cast seppuku for like 4 seconds
Could work I frequently consider stabbing myself while playing this game
Imagine
Spear should be at least the size of ring of peace
but it's some micro circle instead
Nbd just 
If spear was 1.5x the size I'd use it for M+
Declines b res
Would be nice if it was bigger but I suppose that's part of the 'balance' for Blizz
If spear had the radius of roar I’d use it
Because you could just @player it that way without issue
I don't think blizz really considers shit at this point
Fury do big number, big number bad
This tiers balance made me lose all faith in them
They're just leaving everything as is and turning knobs, they clearly do not care to balance M+ or viability at all
for how long have you played this game?
has alwase been the case
It usually isn't this bad
Not true
Ye I played mostly casually til BFA S3 tbh, got a few CEs
I don’t need my spec to be the best but the choices they made for us due to three raid bosses is just ridiculous
i dont get your position anymore @restive peak
This time it's been bad but shadowlands/Dragonflight was pretty good
Then got us20th, got title, then basically stepped off til DF S2 again
What don't you get lol
Taking adds off of logs was also wild
bro
say world rank
not "us"
I have no idea what the world rank was
Who looks at their world rank
everyone?
I'm stuck in NA, why do I care about everywhere else
looking at your region rank
I'm competing w NA people
lmao
if this is true, wouldnt warrior be in a competitive place?
eu brain
Shadowlands/Dragonflight both opened with good balance and then dropped the ball in the later halves of the expansions
NA cope
The mage supplied far better tankiness, ability to handle mechanics easier, tankier, and lust. The DK supplied AMZ, AMS, better burst, 8mil hp, grips etc
I don't think we should do noticeably more dmg due to lack of tools
We should just have tools
But I think the lack of tools ultimately ensures unless we're ele sham status rn we are mediocre
cuz thats my experience too @restive peak , at -3 key levels im tying with DKs, mages, ele shamans, etc. Guildies I consider to be at similar skill levels
Yeah I took a break after Shadowlands second raid tier and then also DF 4th season
But every other class does at least what you do or SLIGHTLY more, while also benefitting the group
I mean we're not in the dumpster like people pretend
but if I werent a warr, would I bring 1? No
tbh i don't think anything should decide how much dmg a class does, like difficulty or the utility they bring. that'd be extremely dumb imo
alright, thats fair
but i think every class should bring similar amounts of utility (including tankiness lmao)
You didn’t play for utility tax then
that's pretty much blizzards philosophy on it, with the exception of aug because it's so universally hated it can't do competitive damage and be balanced
warrior isn't really a squishy class from what i understand, esp not fury, but when i'm on my fdk holy fuck I feel so extremely invincible it makes zero sense
I sweat more on a 628 fury than 608 FDK NGL to keep myself alive
Fury feels relatively squishy imo
The amount of DKs who don’t know half of NWs trash mechanics is wild
Compared to other plate wearers
yeah i mean aug is a whole different thing, their extreme utility is part of the spec right? if they lost that they'd just become another dps spec and if they did competitive dmg then they're immediately necessary for all content at all times in crazy amounts
I think it's not the strongest, and makes sense
which plate warrior
DK is significantly more tanky than we are
plater weareers
fury is the 3rd tankiest spec
I mean
Fury is pretty squishy
except for dk obviously
as someone who played a lot of hunter i still feel tanky as fury (and immortal as dk)
fury is not squishy what
dk is an outlier to fury, fury is an outlier to everything else
yea i mean DK and paladin are both god basically in both dmg and tankiness so
Not to mention like, just AMS half the void corruptions in SV
fury is insanely tanky
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this is some clueless shit
what choco babbled, yes
i guess compared to other plates we're not as tanky but other plates are also literal god
AMS is busted af.
That was my point, compared to other plates but people immediately go off lol
spell reflect is pretty broken as well
paladin has crazy defenses too lol
Spell reflect is one of the most consistent defensives in the game, DK has a lot of the bulk riding on their overtuned stamina talent
ams obviously better but sr is insane
is pally that tanky. in DF i felt tankier as fury than as ret
SR is the only thing keeping fury from falling over half the time
yeah imo fury > ret in tankiness
dps dk >> fury > ret >>> everything else
but hey to each their own
i always felt like pally was tankier, but tbh fury isnt squishy at all
Spell reflect is great, rallying cry even with the nerfs still good
DK is absolutely nuts and outlier
I think they did a supreme job balancing DK low mobility with extra tankiness. It feels like the correct amount of tradeoff
This habanero Tabasco on my chicken is 🔥
hello all dracthyr good for war fury ?
Hot take. Rally is just Spirit Link pad at this point
this is kinda true for deathbringer/sanlayn
but less for riders
SR is jus ta broken button
a dk is very tanky until you root it
20% mdr every 25 seconds is just broken
Yeah but as far as I know, you have to play deathbringer for anything real
defensive stance too
You stop it! They will gut this too
yea dstance is so nice
frost doesnt have a viable riders build unholy plays riders
Does it skip 50% of mechanics this tier? AMS does
it's vaguely comparable to feint, but yeah it's insane
Gotcha
We have been using so much AMS in raid it's insane
ah yes thanks for your input
and blood doesnt have the option for riders
a few nights ago I was streaming m+ to my guildies and I was rained with praise for stance swapping...
like we havent established that ams is broken already
i don't believe SR is comparable to AMS but thats not because SR is weak at all lol
yea
fury is tanky but nothing is close to dk tankyness





