#fury

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pulsar quest
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Holy

covert blaze
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arms talent

humble plover
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Ahh gotcha. I'll write that down

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Ahh shit idk how to write I'm a warrior main

winter shoal
hybrid snow
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Omg I haven't commented in this fury discord for like 3 days now.
Better nerf warrior.

hot topaz
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does bitter immunity dispel this weeks affix?

humble plover
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Ye

nimble ermine
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yes

hot topaz
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is it worth taking/what do you drop if playing mountain thane to get it

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?

shell parcel
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Fellas I need some help with Thane the empowered Thunder Clap do use it immediately regardless of how many stacks of Whirlwind I have so i don't waste procs or is it ok to cast it when I need to reapply the stacks ?

covert blaze
hot topaz
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this comes on tuesday, along with 20% hp nerf ot 3rd boss

shell parcel
nimble ermine
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or realistically dont take BI and play with a shaman

night relic
hot topaz
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if its too much of a loss i get that

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but if it can be done without gimping myself its kinda worth

humble plover
hot topaz
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i always forget about victory rush

night relic
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70% of runs have rshams that insta dispel it

barren coral
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is recipe difficulty relevant when crafting?

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when ordering actually

night relic
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Depends on crafter

barren coral
red marten
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is anyone a trinket sim masterminds
what does the sim think madqueens mandate and corrosive organ are doing
also how do i tell myself to just play sack+shard

warm crag
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ask your crafter

night relic
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Ask with what mats he can do it

barren coral
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aite

red marten
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i mean like hm dmg does it think they are doing because have have those 4 trinkets and madqueen and ogan sim the best

warm crag
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oh sorry misunderstood your question

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i mean idk its plausible that that trinket combo sims best in ST

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mandate is a monster for st and afaik organ isnt bad either

night relic
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Ritual binding knife simming higher than sac for me

warm crag
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on a decent track that can happen ye

night relic
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Hmm

nimble ermine
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you probably also have like a lot of haste already

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from your gear

eager thorn
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I’m gonna be haste heavy all tier cos of funny sikran neck

oblique trail
nimble ermine
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sikran neck is a liberal myth

oblique trail
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Am I a Liberal then for having it?

nimble ermine
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yes

oblique trail
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fuck!

night relic
nimble ermine
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it's terminal!

nimble ermine
golden hare
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so true armpitfucker

oblique trail
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Erga I have seen you

golden hare
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what does that mean? what did you mean by that?

nimble ermine
lavish pond
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hello guys , a quick question: which WA for best ui do u use for fury?

golden hare
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very super extremely subjective

nimble ermine
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the one you prefer

lavish pond
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just recommend !

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if u want

oblique trail
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Go to wago.io and look for Fury profiles until you find the one you like the most 👍

red marten
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im using luxthos and it makes me happy

oblique trail
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most people I think just use Luxthos

lavish pond
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for example i use afenar right now but it doenst show ww and i dont like it

humble plover
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Steal small pieces you like from other ui's and make it your own

nimble ermine
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you can get a ww wa tho

humble plover
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And have nightmares about updating

lavish pond
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luxthos had a bug that annoyed me couldnt fix it and didnt use it

red marten
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maybe its fixed

lavish pond
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nah it was like yesterday xD

red marten
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or u should report it to luxthos and maybe he fixes it

lavish pond
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ok do u know any ui for showing also ww?

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its stupid not to show it i think

nimble ermine
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just search ww..

red marten
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idk wich critcake is using but i his disc does

civic falcon
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AtrocityUIä

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Or a mix of that with another

humble plover
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I'm pretty sure afenar does have ww tho. Isn't it part of the rage bar?

civic falcon
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Playing with AtrocityUI and his WA myself, would recommend that one to everyone

nimble ermine
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i mean its sub only tho

lavish pond
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No i dont see it on its action bar

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it has everyghing except ww

humble plover
lavish pond
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yeah

lavish pond
red marten
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its a small box above his iconns with a number

civic falcon
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Need to sub to his twitch/Patreon in order to get it

indigo cape
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What is better for wep enchant radiant power or dephs?

red marten
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can also strip the one you like off another pack

red marten
indigo cape
humble plover
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Unless it got ditched in a recent update

gleaming gorge
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How is everyone liking thunder over slayer in m+?

hidden tinsel
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i still don't understand the perfect moment to use thunder

dim meadow
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Hella aoe damage foreal

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Same rotation, you use thunderclap instead of whirlwind

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Still trying to figure the single target rotation a bit like when to prio the thunder procs

night relic
proper star
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Why exactly is mountain thane swaping Bs for rav?

eager thorn
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so you can keep thunder blasting on cd to not overcap on stacks

proper star
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oh

eager thorn
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might be other reasons but thats the main one that i know

dim meadow
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Yeah without the slayer Bs multipliers, rav is better for thane. Plus you get free movement along with full rotation access

barren coral
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arent the first 3 mythic bosses easier than HC queen?

radiant plank
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first 4 even

barren coral
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so hiow the fuck is thsi shit even more gatekeepy

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i got AOTC, im 620

radiant plank
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because its mystic difficulty

flat river
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very mystic indeed

eager thorn
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i love mystic raiding

flat river
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REAL

eager thorn
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not a huge fan of mystic+

fervent yoke
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M+ community ruined retail wow for me

flat river
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M+ is fun

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community

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not so fun

fervent yoke
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Mostly bc I hate pugging w fury

barren coral
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i love the m+ community

flat river
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you get invited as fury?

barren coral
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the animals that i find in LFG? not so much

vivid lagoon
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Why are people waiting to AM for MT right now when it’s so good you have your cds back super fast I am always 1.2m-1.4m at the end of each run

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A lot of people are not using AM

flat river
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because

barren coral
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idk are RB/BT buffs live?

sudden tusk
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Single target loss

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They are not

young swan
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its like, on par at best with RA right now

barren coral
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thats why

vivid lagoon
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But if you have other dps doing good single target at the boss it’s good to rush the rest of the dg no ?

young swan
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ur bringing warrior cause we do insane hybrid damage

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ive played more AM than RA this week and i just dont think its good enough yet

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definitely feels good

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but throughput isnt there yet

barren coral
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man i cant take yet another ST loss to be good at m+

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i will reach a point where ill just spectate the bosses

vivid lagoon
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But mythic plus 80% is aoe

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And like only the bosses are single

sudden tusk
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If boss no die you can't complete

barren coral
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yes but bosses are still a huge part of the dungeons time wise

vivid lagoon
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Yeah but if you have good combo like a rogue and mage

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Shouldn’t this be good already

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?

young swan
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prio damage exists

covert coyote
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it's like 2% ST loss it's worth

young swan
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dropping RA for AM?

vivid lagoon
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I am just use to only check the overall dmg at the end since MOP when we had challenge mode

young swan
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its not 2%

barren coral
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20%*

young swan
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more like 5%

exotic turtle
young swan
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but also RA has a huge strength in that ravager casts your bloodbaths for you

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which means you can just full focus CB, TBlast, ramp

barren coral
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OMFG

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THATS WHY

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i thuoght my WA was bugging

young swan
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just free prio damage

barren coral
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i had no clue why bloodbath icon kept getting removed

covert blaze
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lol

vivid lagoon
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I am gonna log my next mythic + maybe I am doing some super right because even with AM I am doing good single target dmg

exotic turtle
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Hahaha yeah well in critcakes vid he explains, ravager does BB for you 🤣

warm crag
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@young swan hello :3

barren coral
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i didnt think it was literal :(

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thought it just meant it applies on top of your actual bloodbath casts

outer rover
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AM slayer is no good option in 11.0.5?

vivid lagoon
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Like let’s say from 4 bosses I always top dmg at 3 bosses

night relic
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And is that cuz the class or the group

exotic turtle
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Is slayer still the best option for aoe and ST bosses in raid? And MT is just for M+? Or would MT shine on some bosses over slayer

vivid lagoon
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For some reason always when I do higher key like +10 + 9 I do more dmg maybe cuz adds take a little long to die

vivid lagoon
exotic turtle
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Ty

warm crag
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mt is probably fine on court

verbal rivet
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Anyone else see the NW 11 vid of Bear, Enh, 3 Templar Ret?

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That was fun

orchid iron
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Add me to the list of people who doesn’t feel like clapping is better than slayer

I know it is, I just don’t like it

eager thorn
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anyone have a video on how to cheese the pull in mech on last boss ara kara?

pulsar quest
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It does feel weird a bit

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Like it doesn’t flow as much

quiet geyser
pulsar quest
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Around 1s she does the pull suck

restive peak
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They’re very interchangeable, have strengths and weaknesses, in fact I’d argue your comp would likely dictate which is “better” right now

orchid iron
restive peak
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Or skill diff. Now in 11.0.5, thane AM will be better

pulsar quest
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She blows up

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You just jump away

orchid iron
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😂

eager thorn
quiet geyser
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Ok look at that @barren coral another yellow saying comp matters

pulsar quest
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Look for 1s, then jump

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Watch criticake do it

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Look through one of his vods

restive peak
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Yeah as soon as timer hits 1s you can leap far and be safe

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If you leap super close, you might die

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But we love a good leap charge anyway

covert blaze
orchid iron
pulsar quest
covert blaze
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yummers

quiet geyser
restive peak
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There’s also the ease of play, also pull sizes and key level matter

quiet geyser
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Dont forget, evey week as more and more people get better gear and ilvls go higher, mid level keys like 10s become ALOT more burst friendly

pulsar quest
restive peak
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For example, several pulls have a huge amount of adds that die instantly, in that case, slayers burst is better

radiant plank
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Hi Lincc

verbal dragon
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is this the item for the 636 weapon craft?

restive peak
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Thane has better overall, and slayer has far better direct single target (boss) damage

radiant plank
restive peak
obsidian siren
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dumb question, because i know this USED to matter, but not sure if it still does... does it matter if the Higher ilvl weapon is in main or off hand anymore?

radiant plank
barren coral
restive peak
radiant plank
obsidian siren
pulsar quest
restive peak
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If @quiet geyser stops making our work lunches the worlds best pizza it’ll go well

pulsar quest
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I need to lean out harddd

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I’m 275 rn

quiet geyser
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But im taking you to breadbar @restive peak

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Lmao

restive peak
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I’m 286 rn at like 15% bf, I figure I’ll get down to like 245-250

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Breadbar once every 2 weeks we ball, will keep my on track hahaha

pulsar quest
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I would be really happy at 245

quiet geyser
pulsar quest
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I’m 6’4 so like 275 just barely shows on me but I’m not happy with it rn

radiant plank
restive peak
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I mean in regards to the thane slayer thing, noxiv vehemently is sticking to slayer and making us all look bad so…its a direct, real world comparison to how close they are

quiet geyser
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@restive peak im 220 again. Did my inbodi yesterday

restive peak
restive peak
pulsar quest
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I think the slayer st really helps in higher keys to be fair too

restive peak
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Sales gonna be even easier

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Exactly

pulsar quest
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I really dislike the thane single target

restive peak
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I’m genuinely not sold yet

oblique trail
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I did 2.2 mill ST as Thane in a key

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(It was on Skarmorak(I was Aug buffed))

restive peak
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I think if you’re with a FDK, for example, you’d be better suited as slayer while they giga fuck

oblique trail
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So I think Thane ST is actually good

restive peak
pulsar quest
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With having both fort and tyr in the key, is gaining more aoe slightly worth losing all the single target

restive peak
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It can be, depending on comp/pull size

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Some keys have consistent bigger pulls, some do not

pulsar quest
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Yeah like you would want more single target on a high NW

restive peak
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Also if you’re the ST for bosses, you should run slayer

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If your comp needs more consistent aoe, thane

hardy cargo
restive peak
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I also think you can just play either and end the same place, if skill matches

quiet geyser
# pulsar quest I think the slayer st really helps in higher keys to be fair too

The issue is, we had dozens of warriors comparing their dps to last week. I get it, thane is the new shiny toy.. but gotta realize we have a high power jump week. You dont think 1) another vault 2) another catalyst 3)bunch more crests 4) another craft 5) more raid loot 6) better affix all together count for the higher dmg? Lmao

restive peak
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So if you love thane go nuts, if you love slayer play it

restive peak
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The change is fun, it’s new and exciting, you aren’t timing a key as thane because you’re thane, imo

radiant plank
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YOu guys should compare to the real meta, Colossus Arms

restive peak
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Ngl I did some dummy w the build you sent me

radiant plank
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it cranks

restive peak
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Dmg was kinda fun, it’s just the channel consistently I don’t love

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But the dmg is there for sure

radiant plank
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Best part about colossus

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prio is MS - op - op - slam

pulsar quest
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I would sooner play Druid than play arms in m+ rn

radiant plank
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no cringe opportunist bs

restive peak
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Yep, straight forward is good

pulsar quest
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Does anybody else find marked for execution really annoying

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Like it’s so inconsistent

restive peak
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Playing some other classes this tier has really highlighted how many little headaches we have that other classes just by virtue of general QOL don’t have

radiant plank
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fdk or uh dk

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vs warrior

restive peak
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Yeah, I have a WA now that just cahings at me when I have 3 marks and an SD and I just ignore it otherwise now

radiant plank
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night and day difference

restive peak
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I’m playing mine as UH and it’s literally just a better, smoother fury warrior

normal bane
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is it possible to pick up endurance training without ever inting your damage

restive peak
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It plays quite similar

barren coral
restive peak
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@tidal kindle the goat is the reason for all my good WAs

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In Garms we trust

quiet geyser
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Gbaby

quiet geyser
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Dks get their big stam talent for basically free

young swan
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yeah

quiet geyser
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Warriors need to int their dmg

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Fair

indigo arch
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Am I fried for thinking to run radiant glory if all I do is keys?

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feels like a lot of boss dam loss

hidden kite
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@mossy fox

warm crag
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real one?

hidden kite
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why u playing pally crit

pliant jackal
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he got tired of his boy Qrva beating him in dps 🙃

restive peak
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Bro my DK is 625, 7mil HP

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I can get hit by shit and it just scares my healer, doesn’t kill me

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I have genuine questions about dks who died on broodkeeper prog

pliant jackal
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yea healers don't like healing bdk in m+ lol

eternal sundial
restive peak
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Bdk is a wild ride man

pliant jackal
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some healers don't know you have to watch thier runic power

restive peak
pliant jackal
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to see if the dk is going to die

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but dps dk i feel like needs their tankiness nerfed a little

teal pine
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looking at raid death stats is kinda wild

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how unkillable dk is

barren coral
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i dont play dk but whats the deal with blood

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how do you consistently reach 1 hp but never die

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some sort of anti-death passive on cd?

teal pine
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also how bad warrior players are i swear this spec is tanky

quiet geyser
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they have a built in cheat death

radiant plank
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its not that they are bad

pliant jackal
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yea warriors are tanky

radiant plank
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its that they rip aggro

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on rashanan

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and ovinax

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and die there

pliant jackal
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also nerf deaths advance

hidden kite
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why

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it does nothing

pliant jackal
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?

teal pine
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that button is so funny

teal pine
pliant jackal
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are you serious

hidden kite
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KEKW

velvet obsidian
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Is that the one that lets them ignore the web pull mechanics?

heavy dock
hidden kite
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heroic leap OP

heavy dock
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atleast u need tot ime leap

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:p

pliant jackal
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make the wraith walk baseline and take a charge away from deaths advance and increase cd to 1 minute

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i think thats fair

restive peak
barren coral
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m+ is 95% the former

restive peak
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Also warrior is very tanky if you’re proactive, we’re actually not that passively tanky

barren coral
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i can already tell i wont time a key

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purely based on threat lvel of first pull

radiant plank
barren coral
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but honestly since i started doing +10-11

real warren
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Playing thane, and the ENTIRE bar is lit up lmfaoo.

barren coral
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tanks have been so much insanely better

coarse nest
radiant plank
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Mooost broken

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in game

pliant jackal
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all the insane tanks i have played with have been bdk

barren coral
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same

radiant plank
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this is so shit node on dk tree frfr

barren coral
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timed a +10 DB with 20 deaths

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with a bdk god just doing its thing

radiant plank
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or this one frfr

pliant jackal
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bdk doing 11s at 607 ilvl lmao

barren coral
coarse nest
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those are dk and pali talents lol

willow cradle
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@radiant plank You are comparing a Fury spec talent to class tree talents, our equivalent is a different talent

coarse nest
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we do pay the price and dont get anything in return

humble plover
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Blizzard anti warrior

willow cradle
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although ours isn't as accessible

willow cradle
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that ain't it either chief

barren coral
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i still cant believe rogues get full on immunity x2 as their defensives

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and we just get 30% DR

radiant plank
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This one

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Surely

willow cradle
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that's it

pliant jackal
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what class gets 4 defensive abilities like dk lmao

radiant plank
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See how it says

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0/2

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because I cant afford to take it

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unlike those two hero classes

radiant plank
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God I love this section

coarse nest
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DK is insanely tanky

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like immortal

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in comparison

barren coral
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is there any other class in the game that cant even afford to fully spec into their 2 bottomlines?

willow cradle
south kayak
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Lmao I’m watching Jujutsu Kaisen and now I finally know where the domain expansion copium meme is from

teal pine
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not sure how many other classes even have big damage like that in their class tree

willow cradle
teal pine
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the other ones i play dont have that at least

south kayak
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I’m loving this show so far

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I only watched a few anime so far

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New to it

radiant plank
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Watch Berserk next

restive peak
radiant plank
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And then Evangelion

south kayak
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My favorite so far is Attack on Titan

barren coral
restive peak
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The inconsistency in pulls, randomness, kicks going unkicked or overlapped etc

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Truly makes it so much harder

south kayak
lament hinge
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why tank hold no aggro, playing thane rn

barren coral
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like going into a COT +7 LFG, you will never know if the tank knowsc how to pull first boss from its singular aoe mechanic

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its an absolute coinflip

restive peak
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It’s such a mess because the game is clearly designed to have coordination, but coordination with randoms is almost impossible

radiant plank
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the others dont exist

restive peak
willow cradle
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I dipped my toes in a +13 with guildies and well it didn't go well at all lmao, this was pre nerf however, dunno how it is now.

south kayak
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Golden age

restive peak
tulip swallow
barren coral
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maybe a hot take but i think there's just a tad bit too many kicks to interrupt currently

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not like, overbearingly too many

willow cradle
barren coral
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but id say tone it down by 20%

south kayak
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@radiant plank what do you think of AoT? Or Vinland

barren coral
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for me its fine, i got a 15s kick and spell reflect

restive peak
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Yeah, they basically put in the amount of kicks that should’ve existed when stops reset cast CD, but then removed the stopping resets

barren coral
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but some classes get 2 tapped by unlucky spell targeting and they dont always have a choice to say

humble plover
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Anime sucks

restive peak
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So now there’s a massive overload

willow cradle
south kayak
restive peak
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NGL the only anime I ever watched was DBZ

humble plover
pliant jackal
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I was more of a Naruto guy

south kayak
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I used to not watch anime

radiant plank
willow cradle
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only Pokémon played on the cartoon channels where I live, can't complain tho, shit was a huge part of my life growing up and I'm still fond of it.

radiant plank
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both

south kayak
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But since I watched AoT I’ve fell in love

humble plover
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Genocide is ok ig

pliant jackal
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FMA brotherhood is solid

south kayak
humble plover
south kayak
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I’ve been recommended Neon Genesis Evangelion a lot

barren coral
south kayak
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Steins;Gate too

radiant plank
# south kayak I’ve been recommended Neon Genesis Evangelion a lot

Berserk, also known in Japan as Kenpū Denki Berserk, is a Japanese anime television series based on Kentaro Miura's manga series of the same name. The series was produced by Nippon Television and VAP, animated by Oriental Light and Magic and directed by Naohito Takahashi. It was broadcast for 25 episodes on Nippon TV from October 1997 to April 1...

teal pine
willow cradle
humble plover
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🤷‍♂️

radiant plank
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not really

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it ends after the big

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thing hbappens

willow cradle
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Oh shit

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1997 Berserk

south kayak
restive peak
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Wait is Pokémon considered an anime?

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I guess so

south kayak
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Yes?

barren coral
restive peak
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I see it as different but I guess it is, so I guess I watched 2 lol

humble plover
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I've never seen berserk and my friend showed me the movie and now I don't wanna watch it. I'm already sad enough I don't need to see that

covert blaze
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the berserk movies are great

south kayak
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I tried reading the berserk manga

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There’s some weird shit in there

covert blaze
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the manga is a masterpiece

willow cradle
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There's some wierd bits in it

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but that can be attributed to Japan cultural weirdness

south kayak
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|| random demon sex anyone? ||

covert blaze
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some very edgy stuff in there

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big fan

willow cradle
humble plover
pliant jackal
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I don't think berserk is that bad compared to the other japanese weirdness in other stuff

humble plover
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What a boring scene

covert blaze
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i've seen some shit

radiant plank
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Vagabond very good manga

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Good taste Zhai

willow cradle
barren coral
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can you get myth track from m+ at all? not including vault

pliant jackal
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there was a manga that was based on a real life story about this girl that was kidnapped by the yakuza and fucked up stuff happened to her.

barren coral
willow cradle
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unless you count crafted gear from Mythic crest

barren coral
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boredom?

radiant plank
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To get egirls from twitter

humble plover
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Ghost stories is the best. English dub ofc

south kayak
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I wanna watch Bleach

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Thoughts

radiant plank
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Do it

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Ichigoat

vale wren
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Skip fillers but ye bleach is nice

south kayak
#

Yeah I will

willow cradle
barren coral
willow cradle
humble plover
#

I think every point between 2500 and title is worthless lol.

willow cradle
#

I mean from a reward point yes

humble plover
#

Who remembers what their score was last season? Or the one before? I sure as shit don't

willow cradle
#

from ease of access with pugging no

barren coral
#

any reward for getting 2400?

willow cradle
#

in PVP?

arctic salmon
#

getting invited to a pug maybe

barren coral
#

m+ score

willow cradle
arctic salmon
#

lol

#

its crackhead barney

willow cradle
barren coral
#

lame

jade fjord
#

Thane + AM. Whats a good dmg breakdown?

humble plover
#

Rampage, thunderclap blast thighs, other

jade fjord
#

thighs?

humble plover
#

It's a joke, thunderblast

arctic salmon
#

yea clappin cheeks

jade fjord
humble plover
#

We just use our big thick thighs to make the claps

jade fjord
#

aaah

#

to dumb. jokes go over my head

humble plover
#

Nothing goes over my head, I'm too quick. I'd catch it

pliant jackal
#

RA is still currently better than AM right now

jade fjord
jade fjord
pliant jackal
#

yea i can't wait for the change

#

cds will feel better

humble plover
#

AM makes me sad

pliant jackal
#

What do you guys think of Getting rid of Titanic RAge

#

in M+

chilly fractal
barren coral
chilly fractal
#

Yea I see it

winter shoal
barren coral
#

how u gaining ST?

#

u pick up onslaught?

winter shoal
#

VC

#

And berserker's torment

pulsar mirage
#

Can i craft another claymore and dual wield?

winter shoal
#

You could but you probably shouldn't

#

You can upgrade any myth track weapon to 636 without crests if you already have a 636 2h crafted

#

If you crafted another 2h, you'd need to spend 2 sparks (bad) and 90 gilded crests (very bad) to do so

abstract flower
#

it's rough out here... getting declined from 8s 621 ilvl 2250io...

humble plover
#

I tried applying to an 11 today and they declined me and got a different fury warrior. I hope they failed it

coarse nest
#

lmao

#

hate to see it

#

been there

abstract flower
#

I've got into 2 as a prot but idk how to prot and brick the keys. Just let me in as fury I crank I swear

night relic
#

why r u going into 11s as prot if u dont know how to tank?

abstract flower
#

?

night relic
#

misread

#

thought u meant u went into 2 11s

normal bane
#

are ppl preferring VC or titan rage in keys atm

abstract flower
#

considering idk what vc is, titan rage

coarse nest
#

could be worse some players out there will get declined on there alt class that isnt meta so theyll log into there fotm spec get accepted and then instantly walk out when the key starts

#

talk about petty lmao

sick jungle
#

but VC sims better ofc

abstract flower
#

what is VC? The choice node is titan rage and dancing blades

sick jungle
#

vicious contempt

abstract flower
#

Ahhhhhh

alpine steppe
normal bane
abstract flower
#

2 devs in this GB... neither wants to go aug either sad

sick jungle
#

i'm a small brain who likes to use his blow everything at once macro

sick jungle
normal bane
#

rip caps

sick jungle
#

oh

alpine steppe
#

In AoE opener assuming all up (MT) - Charge > Ava (Reck/Rav) > TR > Rampage > Odyn > Rampage > TB (?) > Rampage > CB (?)

#

Confused lol

abstract flower
#

and the guy who had the key left before we started smh man I just wanna farm gilded ;-;

#

guess im goin prot and getting 5 per run lmao

normal bane
# coarse nest

you could probably ravager before cds and stil lget the rampage off for unhinged, no?

sick jungle
barren coral
#

does ravager BT proc BT on all hit targets?

fleet wave
#

does TC just replace WW now in MT?

clever escarp
#

nope primary as I know

alpine steppe
sick jungle
#

there's still times you should WW

#

but thats for optimization iirc

fleet wave
#

i gotcha

sick jungle
#

probably wouldn't make a huge difference for normies

#

like me

fleet wave
#

ran a few keys and found myself not hitting WW at all

normal bane
livid marsh
alpine steppe
#

I mean Titanic Rage

sick jungle
#

i was told it's for those times you have a TB proc and you're moving between packs, you'd want to WW > ramp > TB

abstract flower
#

sounds very minmaxy I play warrior in m+ to count to 4 and hold w zugzug

livid marsh
#

for what kind of reason would that be? to not slow the enemies?

sick jungle
#

yeah I don't do it, too small brain

#

for enrage

normal bane
#

i think you def want to ravager before cds though

frail trout
#

I've been insta sending TB proc when I press ava-reck but I think I'll just do ravager first instead, I should be able to get off the TB before the auto bloodthirst can happen

alpine steppe
#

Just seems the norm to send Reck and Rav together.

livid marsh
#

ok yeah thats a very niche reason, considerng you dont have enrage up and you just want to build up rage, you could just use any other ability too since the cleave outside of enrage is dogwater anyways

sick jungle
#

honestly, i like the thane opener

#

it flows for me

frail trout
#

Ravager is just a vehicle for free bloodthirsts during the pack anyway right? It always makes up a fairly small portion of my overall dam

sick jungle
#

free BBs* 😎

normal bane
frail trout
#

I'm just too lazy to articulate the difference but yeah

normal bane
#

as long as yout get BB up for unhinged

winged sail
sick jungle
#

yeah I'm messing about lol

coarse nest
normal bane
#

you can get that even if you pop it first

sick jungle
normal bane
#

unhinged doesn't proc right away

calm ermine
#

On M+, do we use execute without 3 stacks of mfe at all? I feel like its a waste, since we wanna BS asap...

winged sail
normal bane
winged sail
#

thanks

normal bane
#

its pretty easy to get 3 BB's up even if you pop it before cds

sick jungle
sullen hound
#

!guide

ornate gust
normal bane
#

you don't need rampage up before ravager

#

it does not proc right away

sullen hound
#

yeah about that

#

do i use thunderclap on cooldown as MT in multi target? or wait for procs for thunder blast only?

fervent yoke
#

Slam keyboard never stop slamming and you win on fury don’t listen to these wanna be chads with rotations - zug is life

summer quail
sullen hound
#

i checked wowhead guide

#

but there is nothing for m+ mountain thane unless im blind

#

which i probably am

summer quail
#

you are indeed blind, click the thing i sent

frail trout
#

In aoe you will always find yourself running out of meat cleaver charges (almost always true) before you would feel compelled to hit tclap as a filler

#

You will be forced to hit it before it can be a filler

#

To refresh your meat cleaver stacks

sullen hound
#

oh i see, so there is no more need to use whirlwind then

warm crag
#

you technically need to fill with it once in a while but it really doesnt matter if you just unbind it

frail trout
#

I have run into exactly one scenario so far where having ww bound somewhere would have filled an empty global, low sample size of keys but

#

It can happen

warm crag
#

i think a 5 minute sim fills with ww like twice on average

eager thorn
sullen hound
#

sounds good

eager thorn
#

since you prio it over rb and exe

sullen hound
#

thanks

sick jungle
#

i've yet to run out of ww charges while playing thane and using just TC

#

maybe during lust?

#

i might've just never noticed it tbh

winged sail
#

like in wowhead guide

eager thorn
#

i think TB before ravager for sure

#

but TR before tb on opener

sick jungle
#

is that the opener or is that the prio rotation

eager thorn
#

feels so much smoother imo

autumn garnet
#

Can anyone help me check why my dps is like not good idk what I’m doing wrong in my rotation.

eager thorn
#

for aoe

modern void
#

anyone got a WA for burst of power?

winged sail
warm crag
#

but honestly just drop the ww keybind for thane lol

frail trout
#

It almost never happens but it definitely does

eager thorn
#

is there a way to macro clap and ww together so if clap is on cd you cast whirlwind

sick jungle
#

or it's happened so infrequently that I've never noticed

frail trout
#

I think when it happened to me it was a dawnbreaker 10 boss

#

Well either way, boss is more likely to have a combat length that will cause the gap to happen

merry pewter
#

Are most still running slayer for raids? Thane is mainly just higher keys to be optimal?

frail trout
#

Adds in this raid's fights are essentially built to accommodate slayer burst timings, or rather slayer fits them perfectly

#

It would take a serious hit to change our hero talents in raid

verbal rivet
#

Only fight I’ve heard people go thane on is Silken Court

frail trout
#

I could see that

verbal rivet
#

I want to try it, thane is more enjoyable for me

frail trout
#

Although bladestorm probably slaps during the damage amp windows

frozen ridge
#

wich weapon establishment do we choose when mainly going for m+? darkmoon nevertheless?

humble plover
# coarse nest hate to see it

I signed up to a quazii 10 GB too for vault. He goes "this guys farming something" then still doesn't invite.. it really do be rough out here

coarse nest
#

LOL

smoky vale
verbal rivet
#

I’m not ready for more rejection rn

warm crag
sick jungle
#

what io are you guys running around with

#

and still getting declined from 10s

#

just curious, I don't even try to apply to 10s

warm crag
humble plover
golden hare
#

so powerful...

warm crag
#

they need to NERF fury and BUFF boomkins

smoky vale
humble plover
smoky vale
warm crag
#

noob

smoky vale
#

or was the mists on my evoker

#

idk

pulsar quest
#

anybody else feel like they time pug keys better than guild keys tho

warm crag
#

no

pulsar quest
#

I timed an 11 siege easily with pugs

#

It’s impossible with my guild

#

I stg

smoky vale
#

i was doing my 11 dawn i was gapping the group but i ended at 1.2 mil because died 20 times on 3rd mini boss as thane

pulsar quest
#

It’s like they are great players but we just can’t time guild keys

humble plover
#

Spongie. Could you teach me how to Dougie?

smoky vale
#

that doesnt add up

humble plover
#

I don't want to warrior anymore. Only dance

pulsar quest
#

Warrior should have a samurai hero class

#

That would be based and sick

smoky vale
#

go play ascension then

pulsar quest
#

I want a lancer/samurai class

#

Like a whole new class

#

No game does it justice

#

FF just ain’t it

smoky vale
#

samurai in ff moment

#

idk what its like

pulsar quest
#

I want like a fast paced lancer spear guy

smoky vale
#

leveling in that game is so miserable

pulsar quest
#

Idk if you have ever seen any of the Fate anime’s

warm crag
pulsar quest
#

But they have a lancer who’s sick

smoky vale
serene vessel
#

team has anyone played a prot pally this xpac

clever belfry
#

yes

warm crag
summer quail
pulsar quest
smoky vale
#

idk

humble plover
pulsar quest
smoky vale
#

ive been playing ui wa and some dungeon one but i legit turned most things off

pliant jackal
#

please why cant i get invite into other keys than dawnbreaker

#

its boring

smoky vale
#

instinct is just playing the dungeon and understanding

nimble ermine
pulsar quest
pulsar quest
#

Anything under 2700/227 and you have your answer

pliant jackal
#

im venting not really a question

summer quail
frail trout
#

There are 10 million people queued up for mists to get the trinket, also because it's widely recognized as the easiest key

serene vessel
pulsar quest
#

627 sorry

#

Mists is so boring

warm crag
#

need the full list

pulsar quest
#

Yes

#

This man gets it

weary sail
#

How accurate is this

pulsar quest
#

What’s your mount collection parse score?

warm crag
#

tier list L + bozo

exotic cradle
#

as mountain thane, do we still use whirlwind if thunderclap gives us meat cleaver?

radiant plank
#

very accurate

pulsar quest
#

Delete it now

serene vessel
frail trout
#

That's a list of the top key pushers basically not the list of m+ effectiveness wholesale

hardy cargo
sick jungle
#

at least it has BM at the bottom

barren coral
pulsar quest
#

That list was made by a mage

weary sail
pulsar quest
#

They have all 3 specs in s tier

barren coral
#

the list is automatically made based on r.io scores

#

but thats not a good metric at all

verbal rivet
#

Arcane mid af in keys tbh

barren coral
#

look at ret pally in A tier

#

????

weary sail
pulsar quest
#

No author huh

#

I would hide my name too

barren coral
#

you guys read anything typed in here?

pulsar quest
#

No

frail trout
#

It's not a tier list even though it's literally designed to look like one

#

It's measured by rio score only

barren coral
sick jungle
#

there's no author because it's just generated by parses

warm crag
pulsar quest
#

There’s literally tier list in the title

serene vessel
pulsar quest
#

Thank you spongie

teal pine
#

Arcane might not be mid but every arcane player is

sick jungle
#

well, I see what zephn is saying

#

it's designed to look like a tier list, but all it is is a list of best to worst

weary sail
#

Is arcane better or frost better for M+? I see a mix at high keys

serene vessel
#

arcane is great in high keys

sick jungle
#

judging by rio scores

pulsar quest
frail trout
#

Ok, let me explain I guess - it's not a class or spec performance tier list that someone personally cooked up which is what I think people associate tier lists with

pulsar quest
#

Which just makes them even dumber

sick jungle
#

who decides on where each tier starts and ends? i dunno but it's stupid

frail trout
#

It's a rio tier list filtered by specs calculated automatically

serene vessel
sick jungle
clever belfry
eager thorn
#

Fury is best m+ spec cos thats what i enjoy

verbal rivet
warm crag
humble plover
serene vessel
pulsar quest
serene vessel
#

but also yes if you're pushing the highest of keys you better be playing around CDs

warm crag
frail trout
#

The way they calculate that list seems different than before the merger

verbal rivet
sick jungle
#

lets have chatgpt summarize it for us

verbal rivet
#

They will do hot nothing all key

frail trout
#

It was a different website before that merged with another

pulsar quest
serene vessel
pulsar quest
#

No reason not to be 3k as a mage

pure cloud
#

If I play the M+ Thane build that Archimtiros recommended is there a reason to use WW in my rotation?

sick jungle
#

whats OP is their party shield

serene vessel
#

por que no los dos

sick jungle
#

i've been in so many keys where we go through the entire key and they haven't used the shield once

verbal rivet
eager thorn
#

Its prob not worth adding to bars

pure cloud
sick jungle
smoky vale
#

except no human mage isnt going to not have cds

verbal rivet
sick jungle
#

i wish i had a tank pulling around my cds sadge

warm crag
verbal rivet
#

Why do that, when you can bring 3 Ret Paladins

smoky vale
sick jungle
#

every pull aligns with their cds keks

verbal rivet
#

They sneeze and get wings

pure cloud
eager thorn
#

Brown superior

lavish pond
#

hey guys do u have any recommendation about a WA that modifies our health bars?

smoky vale
lavish pond
#

yeah iknow but i wanted to learn from fellows fury warriors xd

smoky vale
#

everyone in there is in here as well

#

but its for that type of question

lavish pond
#

yy i understand, ty

toxic plank
#

hi quick question is mountain thane better than slayer for m+? just really started now with m+ didnt haved time before this but ilvl is atleast 613 for me

smoky vale
#

both are playable

#

thane has more sustained aoe while slayer bursts infinitely faster

#

slayer also has better st

toxic plank
#

and for lower keys like 4 slayer better think? since packs will not live that long or?

mental swan
#

why Ravager over Bladestorm in the Thane build suggested by Archi for M+? Is there a big difference?

smoky vale
#

it also lets you do your rotation while ravager is throwing bb

mental swan
#

how did thane change this equation if it just does more dmg

eager thorn
#

I miss bladestorm but using ravager feels so nice

mental swan
#

i mean we could do slayer rotation too while BSing

#

while Ravager is on* i mean

eager thorn
#

You take ravager on thane cos it lets you not overcap on thunder blast stacks

#

Since you can tb while ravager is down

smoky vale
onyx isle
#

Slayer has a lot of bs specific talents and thane doesn't, near as I can tell.

frail trout
#

The first pack of any key probably has you bladestorming without any of the buff stacks that add extra swings to your bladestorm but the thunder blast point is pretty compelling

#

Bladestorm still feels like it fucks with zero extra swings added but thunder blast also fucks

#

Plus ravager may look low on your overall but what isn't as obvious is all the extra rampages and raging blows casted during the ravager window

#

It's harder to identify that by just looking at a damage breakdown though

#

And then any thunder blasts you might have lost if you bladestormed instead

night relic
#

thunder blast = smash

#

all u need to know

dim meadow
pearl crypt
#

wish this item wasnt so low lvl lol

#

perma str steroid in m+

bleak oak
#

Queen ring dropping my haste big time 😢

hollow leaf
grave lark
#

behold, the sword-and-board fury build, with benefits such as

inability to use raging blow or rampage
inability to spend rage outside of execute phase
reliance on bloodthirst and odyn's fury for enrage, resulting in 50% enrage uptime
the ability to use shield slam, the button that does half the damage of bloodthirst
less dps than just playing prot warrior anyways

humble plover
#

Seems good I'm in

grave lark
#

Burst of Power causes Shield Slam to light up, but doesn't actually work on it

#

it's so over

zinc remnant
#

guys, what the best for fury? Everforged Greataxe or charged claymore?

humble plover
#

Doesn't matter

warm crag
#

as long as its 2h and str they're all the same

gritty sigil
#

whats a typical raidbots sim for patchwerk 1 boss 5 min on fury warrior? want something to compare to

winter shoal
#

How long is a piece of string

zinc remnant
humble plover
winter shoal
#

Exactly, and your sim also only matters to the extent that you actually have all of the raid buffs and consumes you're simming with, etc.

#

Like I can tell you I sim for 1.255m at 626 but that doesn't mean anything if you're 615 and have no monk or shaman in your raid

humble plover
#

Yeah but the string length is what I'm interested in

jolly wing
#

The method and wowhead guides recommend slightly different things. Are there cases where the method choices are better?

Method: cursed mastery, authority of radiant power, ironclaw whetstone
wowhead: radiant mastery, authority of the deeps, mana oil

winter shoal
winter shoal
humble plover
winter shoal
#

Also whetstones are giga expensive compared to mana oil and it doesn't matter THAT much if you're not like rwf guild

#

I've been using df mastery runes all expac because I bought a bunch at like 2g per when whetstones were like 3.5k per

#

It's like a 0.2% dps difference

rigid stirrup
jolly wing
#

That seems to be the more popular choice in logs

graceful ruin
#

can you still leap dark exile?

smoky vale
#

wtf is dark exile

oak raven
#

have we recieved the soft cap nerfs for Roar and OF yet?

graceful ruin
#

last boss of necrotic wake

smoky vale
#

@golden hare do you know

eager thorn
#

think you can

regal trellis
#

I’ve charged and cancelled it, not tried leap properly

golden hare
#

know what

#

i think you can, but it's not a tank mechanic so idk

eager thorn
#

p sure you can but you keep debuff

golden hare
#

u do ye

#

you will die

rustic kelp
#

Hey guys. What do you think, at which keylvl is it worth to swap to mountain?
tbh, i never played mountain thane, and i would like to test it now, but, is it good playable in +5s for "gettin into the spec"?

nimble ermine
#

stuff dies too fast in a 5 for thane

#

you can play it to get the idea of the spec though

#

but when everything dies in 5 seconds its a bit meh

rustic kelp
#

(if im able to join groups, lol)

rotund ginkgo
#

declined all day
runs own key
gets declined in my own key

smoky vale
#

XD

pliant jackal
#

fucking fdk with only 9 interrupts in nw

copper lily
#

Boys

#

Mountain Thane for HC Ansurek, yay or nay?

verbal rivet
copper lily
#

Yeah I have been Slayer for that. just started playing Thane for m+ today and seeing good numbers

#

Well

#

Decent numbers

smoky vale
#

you didnt understand a single thing he typed

copper lily
#

What didn't I understand

verbal rivet
#

Only raid fight I’ve been seeing talk about running thane on is Court.

copper lily
#

I didn't disagree with him

verbal rivet
#

You run slayer on ansurek, only to get as many good ST DPS to last phase alive. That is our only function in that fight.

young swan
verbal rivet
#

And I guess adds in last phase.

copper lily
#

Roger that

#

Nice one lads

smoky vale
#

you play it for roots as well

young swan
#

at least on HC

#

p1 is a joke

#

the webs have 10m hp

smoky vale
#

mythic roots look do horrible with fury nerfs

young swan
#

die to passive cleave as long as your raid presses buttons

smoky vale
#

was watching wes

young swan
#

wes owns

smoky vale
#

snd he cant solo

copper lily
#

Yeah the roots haven't been a problem so far playing Slayer and with some ret paladins and Dk's

smoky vale
#

wes does own

copper lily
#

Our issue is people not getting pulled into the shield in the intermission

warm crag
copper lily
#

I haven't seen p3 yet it's painful to be a part of

high haven
#

do you use rampage only for enrage, or its first prio no matter what?

verbal rivet
#

I’m boutta just start directing them to the Enh Shaman Rotation guide. See how long it takes.

young swan
#

its not exclusively for enrage

#

you should just go look at the prio on wowhead

hollow bloom
#

+10 boralus, fuck arcane

smoky vale
#

double warrior group deadge

#

4 war group critcake

hollow bloom
flat river
#

prot warrior is god tier

smoky vale
#

yeah but as a "prot" player im never taking a second warrior

sour frigate
hollow bloom
#

so he missed dps

sour frigate
#

cringed

golden hare
#

siegebreaker jumpscare

smoky vale
#

3rd mini boss dawn has to be the scariest pull whole season idc

golden hare
#

dps press one singular defensive cooldown challenge

smoky vale
#

dps miss every kick when grouping 3 packs easy mode

tulip swallow
storm rune
#

the orb having a radius that causes it to spawn underneath behind the boss has taken many a life

mental swan
#

critcake running slayer on 13 boralus why

storm rune
#

for the vibes

nimble ermine
#

because slayer is still good

#

xd

zinc remnant
#

what missive is the best for crafting axe? Versa and Mastery is good?

nimble ermine
#

sim what's better for ur character

mental swan
restive peak
#

They’re completely interchangeable

#

Siege has very long boss fights

#

With burst phases

#

Slayer is likely the better play there

#

And NW for boss dam

#

Whereas some are better for thane probably

dusk river
#

Do I generally wanna upgrade weapon as prio 1 on fwarr?

polar narwhal
#

Weapon dps > all

rotund ginkgo
#

no blinding light cast

#

we brick nw12 on first necromancer pack

#

pala has all his cc+interrupt up

#

"thought it was on cd"

#

"didnt wanna overlap"

#

"usually someone else interrupts"

olive wraith
#

we heart accountability

rotund ginkgo
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real

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this is so cracked

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prot war

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1 interrupt

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in 11 mins

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the same key btw