#fury
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arms talent
Dead talent so sadge
Omg I haven't commented in this fury discord for like 3 days now.
Better nerf warrior.
does bitter immunity dispel this weeks affix?
Ye
yes
Fellas I need some help with Thane the empowered Thunder Clap do use it immediately regardless of how many stacks of Whirlwind I have so i don't waste procs or is it ok to cast it when I need to reapply the stacks ?
it does a lot of damage, it's high prio
this comes on tuesday, along with 20% hp nerf ot 3rd boss
cheers
you can drop 1 point in overwhelming rage of rumbling earth
or realistically dont take BI and play with a shaman
Wise man once said
“Healer affix
Fuckem”
im too ethical for that LOL
if its too much of a loss i get that
but if it can be done without gimping myself its kinda worth
I don't take it. impending victory heals like 70% of it and if they can't heal the rest along with cshb and bloodthirst it's honestly on them at that point
i always forget about victory rush
70% of runs have rshams that insta dispel it
Depends on crafter
asking so i know if i should buy r3 embellish or r2
is anyone a trinket sim masterminds
what does the sim think madqueens mandate and corrosive organ are doing
also how do i tell myself to just play sack+shard
ask your crafter
Ask with what mats he can do it
aite
just on cd p sure
i mean like hm dmg does it think they are doing because have have those 4 trinkets and madqueen and ogan sim the best
oh sorry misunderstood your question
i mean idk its plausible that that trinket combo sims best in ST
mandate is a monster for st and afaik organ isnt bad either
Ritual binding knife simming higher than sac for me
on a decent track that can happen ye
Hmm
I’m gonna be haste heavy all tier cos of funny sikran neck
sikran neck is a liberal myth
Am I a Liberal then for having it?
yes
fuck!
26% 15660
it's terminal!
ye probably thats why
so true armpitfucker
what does that mean? what did you mean by that?
hello guys , a quick question: which WA for best ui do u use for fury?
very super extremely subjective
the one you prefer
im using luxthos and it makes me happy
most people I think just use Luxthos
for example i use afenar right now but it doenst show ww and i dont like it
Steal small pieces you like from other ui's and make it your own
you can get a ww wa tho
And have nightmares about updating
luxthos had a bug that annoyed me couldnt fix it and didnt use it
maybe its fixed
nah it was like yesterday xD
or u should report it to luxthos and maybe he fixes it
just search ww..
idk wich critcake is using but i his disc does
I'm pretty sure afenar does have ww tho. Isn't it part of the rage bar?
Playing with AtrocityUI and his WA myself, would recommend that one to everyone
i mean its sub only tho
Oh no I'm thinking of a diff one my b
yeah
oh ok i will check it thank you
its a small box above his iconns with a number
Need to sub to his twitch/Patreon in order to get it
What is better for wep enchant radiant power or dephs?
can also strip the one you like off another pack
seems like most people are playinng 2x depths
thanks
Ok no I'm not crazy I looked lol. I use his rage bar only and it has the 4 charges of ww at the top of the bar as 4 little bars that deplete as you use them
Unless it got ditched in a recent update
it does
How is everyone liking thunder over slayer in m+?
i still don't understand the perfect moment to use thunder
It’s fun and a little easier than slayer
Hella aoe damage foreal
Same rotation, you use thunderclap instead of whirlwind
Still trying to figure the single target rotation a bit like when to prio the thunder procs

Why exactly is mountain thane swaping Bs for rav?
so you can keep thunder blasting on cd to not overcap on stacks
oh
might be other reasons but thats the main one that i know
Yeah without the slayer Bs multipliers, rav is better for thane. Plus you get free movement along with full rotation access
arent the first 3 mythic bosses easier than HC queen?
first 4 even
because its mystic difficulty
very mystic indeed
i love mystic raiding
M+ community ruined retail wow for me
Mostly bc I hate pugging w fury
i love the m+ community
you get invited as fury?
the animals that i find in LFG? not so much
Why are people waiting to AM for MT right now when it’s so good you have your cds back super fast I am always 1.2m-1.4m at the end of each run
A lot of people are not using AM
because
idk are RB/BT buffs live?
its like, on par at best with RA right now
thats why
But if you have other dps doing good single target at the boss it’s good to rush the rest of the dg no ?
ur bringing warrior cause we do insane hybrid damage
ive played more AM than RA this week and i just dont think its good enough yet
definitely feels good
but throughput isnt there yet
man i cant take yet another ST loss to be good at m+
i will reach a point where ill just spectate the bosses
If boss no die you can't complete
yes but bosses are still a huge part of the dungeons time wise
Yeah but if you have good combo like a rogue and mage
Shouldn’t this be good already
?
prio damage exists
it's like 2% ST loss it's worth
dropping RA for AM?
I am just use to only check the overall dmg at the end since MOP when we had challenge mode
its not 2%
20%*
more like 5%
I’m also still wondering, do we still thunderclap in single target? The damage isn’t that bad? And if we do, where does it come in, int he priority list
but also RA has a huge strength in that ravager casts your bloodbaths for you
which means you can just full focus CB, TBlast, ramp
just free prio damage
i had no clue why bloodbath icon kept getting removed
lol
I am gonna log my next mythic + maybe I am doing some super right because even with AM I am doing good single target dmg
Hahaha yeah well in critcakes vid he explains, ravager does BB for you 🤣
@young swan hello :3
i didnt think it was literal :(
thought it just meant it applies on top of your actual bloodbath casts
AM slayer is no good option in 11.0.5?
Like let’s say from 4 bosses I always top dmg at 3 bosses
And is that cuz the class or the group
Is slayer still the best option for aoe and ST bosses in raid? And MT is just for M+? Or would MT shine on some bosses over slayer
For some reason always when I do higher key like +10 + 9 I do more dmg maybe cuz adds take a little long to die
Yes slayer is for raid and MT for mythic +
Ty
mt is probably fine on court
Add me to the list of people who doesn’t feel like clapping is better than slayer
I know it is, I just don’t like it
anyone have a video on how to cheese the pull in mech on last boss ara kara?
Mfw I argue with statistical truths
It does feel weird a bit
Like it doesn’t flow as much
Its not really better. Not sure why you think it is
You jump away 1s or under
Around 1s she does the pull suck
They’re very interchangeable, have strengths and weaknesses, in fact I’d argue your comp would likely dictate which is “better” right now
And then what does she do?
Or skill diff. Now in 11.0.5, thane AM will be better
😂
ye ik but seeing it makes it easier
Ok look at that @barren coral another yellow saying comp matters
Yeah as soon as timer hits 1s you can leap far and be safe
If you leap super close, you might die
But we love a good leap charge anyway
cant wait to try this and die
The literal guide in the pins? Where you been dog?
Try dn
yummers
Unless ur doing like 12s+... you literally wont see a difference overall
So there is nuance here, it’s not that simple. Yes, thane is better sustained AOE, it’s within 2% on ST during an AOE pull, it is not within 2% on pure ST without funnel
There’s also the ease of play, also pull sizes and key level matter
Dont forget, evey week as more and more people get better gear and ilvls go higher, mid level keys like 10s become ALOT more burst friendly
I see a difference in 10s and 11s
For example, several pulls have a huge amount of adds that die instantly, in that case, slayers burst is better
Hi Lincc
is this the item for the 636 weapon craft?
Thane has better overall, and slayer has far better direct single target (boss) damage
yes
Hai baeeee
dumb question, because i know this USED to matter, but not sure if it still does... does it matter if the Higher ilvl weapon is in main or off hand anymore?
I hit a new PR on the DB bench : 3
this or charged claymore
always higher ilvl in mh
Hellllllll fuckin yeah

rog, always did it but i wasnt sure if it had changed since 14 years ago
Ur so hot
I’ve decided my 36 birthday present to myself will be leaning out hardcore again, bout to start a solid diet
If @quiet geyser stops making our work lunches the worlds best pizza it’ll go well
I’m 286 rn at like 15% bf, I figure I’ll get down to like 245-250
Breadbar once every 2 weeks we ball, will keep my on track hahaha
I would be really happy at 245
Btw im gonna say this is more a "feely" thing. Legit every top warrior says they dont notice much, very situational
I’m 6’4 so like 275 just barely shows on me but I’m not happy with it rn
You gonna be like a mosnter if you go down 30 and u are at 15% bf rn
I mean in regards to the thane slayer thing, noxiv vehemently is sticking to slayer and making us all look bad so…its a direct, real world comparison to how close they are
@restive peak im 220 again. Did my inbodi yesterday
Yeah I want some shouldy veins
Attttaaaaa BOIIII
I think the slayer st really helps in higher keys to be fair too
I really dislike the thane single target
I’m genuinely not sold yet
I think if you’re with a FDK, for example, you’d be better suited as slayer while they giga fuck
Delete second line and brag and give no context yolo
With having both fort and tyr in the key, is gaining more aoe slightly worth losing all the single target
It can be, depending on comp/pull size
Some keys have consistent bigger pulls, some do not
Yeah like you would want more single target on a high NW
Also if you’re the ST for bosses, you should run slayer
If your comp needs more consistent aoe, thane
also your logs... did you play or is this boosted?
I also think you can just play either and end the same place, if skill matches
The issue is, we had dozens of warriors comparing their dps to last week. I get it, thane is the new shiny toy.. but gotta realize we have a high power jump week. You dont think 1) another vault 2) another catalyst 3)bunch more crests 4) another craft 5) more raid loot 6) better affix all together count for the higher dmg? Lmao
So if you love thane go nuts, if you love slayer play it
^ this is the reality, we’re in the exact same place as last week
The change is fun, it’s new and exciting, you aren’t timing a key as thane because you’re thane, imo
YOu guys should compare to the real meta, Colossus Arms
Ngl I did some dummy w the build you sent me
it cranks
Dmg was kinda fun, it’s just the channel consistently I don’t love
But the dmg is there for sure
I would sooner play Druid than play arms in m+ rn
no cringe opportunist bs
Yep, straight forward is good
Does anybody else find marked for execution really annoying
Like it’s so inconsistent
Playing some other classes this tier has really highlighted how many little headaches we have that other classes just by virtue of general QOL don’t have
Yeah, I have a WA now that just cahings at me when I have 3 marks and an SD and I just ignore it otherwise now
night and day difference
I’m playing mine as UH and it’s literally just a better, smoother fury warrior
is it possible to pick up endurance training without ever inting your damage
It plays quite similar
godsent, i didnt even think about this
Gbaby
nope lol
Dks get their big stam talent for basically free
yeah
Am I fried for thinking to run radiant glory if all I do is keys?
feels like a lot of boss dam loss
@mossy fox
real one?
why u playing pally crit
he got tired of his boy Qrva beating him in dps 🙃
Bro my DK is 625, 7mil HP
I can get hit by shit and it just scares my healer, doesn’t kill me
I have genuine questions about dks who died on broodkeeper prog
yea healers don't like healing bdk in m+ lol
So does mine war (thane impending used..)
Bdk is a wild ride man
some healers don't know you have to watch thier runic power
Ain’t no 1 shot that’s avoidable from that though 😛
to see if the dk is going to die
but dps dk i feel like needs their tankiness nerfed a little
i dont play dk but whats the deal with blood
how do you consistently reach 1 hp but never die
some sort of anti-death passive on cd?
also how bad warrior players are i swear this spec is tanky
they have a built in cheat death
its not that they are bad
yea warriors are tanky
also nerf deaths advance
?
that button is so funny

are you serious
KEKW
Is that the one that lets them ignore the web pull mechanics?
most broken anti pull spell :D
heroic leap OP
make the wraith walk baseline and take a charge away from deaths advance and increase cd to 1 minute
i think thats fair
Most warrior deaths are a combination of bad tanks so add aggro or overestimating our own tankiness
m+ is 95% the former
Also warrior is very tanky if you’re proactive, we’re actually not that passively tanky
but honestly since i started doing +10-11
Playing thane, and the ENTIRE bar is lit up lmfaoo.
tanks have been so much insanely better

all the insane tanks i have played with have been bdk
same
this is so shit node on dk tree frfr
or this one frfr
bdk doing 11s at 607 ilvl lmao
this is the price you pay for having heroic leap
those are dk and pali talents lol
@radiant plank You are comparing a Fury spec talent to class tree talents, our equivalent is a different talent
we do pay the price and dont get anything in return
Blizzard anti warrior
although ours isn't as accessible
Real
that ain't it either chief
i still cant believe rogues get full on immunity x2 as their defensives
and we just get 30% DR
that's it
what class gets 4 defensive abilities like dk lmao
See how it says
0/2
because I cant afford to take it
unlike those two hero classes

God I love this section
I dont read
is there any other class in the game that cant even afford to fully spec into their 2 bottomlines?
respectable ahahah
Lmao I’m watching Jujutsu Kaisen and now I finally know where the domain expansion copium meme is from

not sure how many other classes even have big damage like that in their class tree
Domain Expansion
Death in a Shootout with the IRS
the other ones i play dont have that at least
Watch Berserk next
This is a common issue. When playing with bad people, everything just seems harder….a 13 with my team is easier than a pug 11
And then Evangelion
My favorite so far is Attack on Titan
ofc but the LFG itself is 10x better going from +7 to +11
The inconsistency in pulls, randomness, kicks going unkicked or overlapped etc
Truly makes it so much harder
The 1997 one?
why tank hold no aggro, playing thane rn
like going into a COT +7 LFG, you will never know if the tank knowsc how to pull first boss from its singular aoe mechanic
its an absolute coinflip
It’s such a mess because the game is clearly designed to have coordination, but coordination with randoms is almost impossible
Yeah 7s are no man’s land, it’s a wild swing
I dipped my toes in a +13 with guildies and well it didn't go well at all lmao, this was pre nerf however, dunno how it is now.
There’s one from the movies that’s made into a series with updates
Golden age
It’s basically between the old 11 and 12 now
Need to kick random filler spells on mobs but also they're mixed in with spells that instantly wipe you 
maybe a hot take but i think there's just a tad bit too many kicks to interrupt currently
not like, overbearingly too many
much better now wow
but id say tone it down by 20%
@radiant plank what do you think of AoT? Or Vinland
for me its fine, i got a 15s kick and spell reflect
Yeah, they basically put in the amount of kicks that should’ve existed when stops reset cast CD, but then removed the stopping resets
but some classes get 2 tapped by unlucky spell targeting and they dont always have a choice to say
Anime sucks
So now there’s a massive overload
Stuns and other stops not acting as full interrupts is a core issue
Unreal and fake
NGL the only anime I ever watched was DBZ

I was more of a Naruto guy
I used to not watch anime
Very good series
only Pokémon played on the cartoon channels where I live, can't complain tho, shit was a huge part of my life growing up and I'm still fond of it.
both
Genocide is ok ig
FMA brotherhood is solid

Look, only if you make an anime about it. Don't look at me like that
I’ve been recommended Neon Genesis Evangelion a lot
what genocide he pussied out 80% in
Steins;Gate too
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berserk_(1997_TV_series) this is the specfic one
Berserk, also known in Japan as Kenpū Denki Berserk, is a Japanese anime television series based on Kentaro Miura's manga series of the same name. The series was produced by Nippon Television and VAP, animated by Oriental Light and Magic and directed by Naohito Takahashi. It was broadcast for 25 episodes on Nippon TV from October 1997 to April 1...
I thought it was really boring personally
I mean, still a genocide, failed but still.
Hot take. Kinda a pussy from the jump
🤷♂️
Doesn’t it end suddenly

Yes?
its adapting the first arc only, which is like what 95% of berserk discussion is about online
I see it as different but I guess it is, so I guess I watched 2 lol
I've never seen berserk and my friend showed me the movie and now I don't wanna watch it. I'm already sad enough I don't need to see that
the berserk movies are great
the manga is a masterpiece
There's some wierd bits in it
but that can be attributed to Japan cultural weirdness
|| random demon sex anyone? ||
first page
I'm down. As long as it's better than that lady in bg3
I don't think berserk is that bad compared to the other japanese weirdness in other stuff
What a boring scene
it's really not
i've seen some shit
for sure, I am very selective with Japanese media because some of the shit they have just feels like borderline porn all the time
can you get myth track from m+ at all? not including vault
nope
there was a manga that was based on a real life story about this girl that was kidnapped by the yakuza and fucked up stuff happened to her.
so why do people even push past +10
unless you count crafted gear from Mythic crest
boredom?
To get egirls from twitter
Ghost stories is the best. English dub ofc
Skip fillers but ye bleach is nice
Yeah I will
Same reason I do CE I guess, you get a sense of accomplishment from clearing content designed to be hard, plus it's a fun way to have a silly little time with friends.
meh, ill wait till 626 for that then
Yikes, that's in incredibly bad taste
I think every point between 2500 and title is worthless lol.
I mean from a reward point yes
Who remembers what their score was last season? Or the one before? I sure as shit don't
from ease of access with pugging no
any reward for getting 2400?
in PVP?
getting invited to a pug maybe
m+ score
interesting pfp lmao
I don't think there is any reward attached to exactly that rating
lame
Thane + AM. Whats a good dmg breakdown?
Rampage, thunderclap blast thighs, other
thighs?
It's a joke, thunderblast
yea clappin cheeks
We just use our big thick thighs to make the claps
RA is still currently better than AM right now
yeah fcn HDR screenshots
yeah but AM feels refreshing 😄
AM makes me sad

anyone else cant stop seeing a question mark
Yea I see it
Odyn's Fury and Titan's Torment can be dropped for ~2% more single target and ~2% less multitarget. It's also a little easier to play, but slightly less bursty and will not have the instant enrage.
#1273899855852339200 message
Can i craft another claymore and dual wield?
You could but you probably shouldn't
You can upgrade any myth track weapon to 636 without crests if you already have a 636 2h crafted
If you crafted another 2h, you'd need to spend 2 sparks (bad) and 90 gilded crests (very bad) to do so
it's rough out here... getting declined from 8s 621 ilvl 2250io...
I tried applying to an 11 today and they declined me and got a different fury warrior. I hope they failed it
I've got into 2 as a prot but idk how to prot and brick the keys. Just let me in as fury I crank I swear
why r u going into 11s as prot if u dont know how to tank?
?
are ppl preferring VC or titan rage in keys atm
considering idk what vc is, titan rage
could be worse some players out there will get declined on there alt class that isnt meta so theyll log into there fotm spec get accepted and then instantly walk out when the key starts
talk about petty lmao
i enjoy the ease of use of TR
but VC sims better ofc
what is VC? The choice node is titan rage and dancing blades
vicious contempt
Ahhhhhh
even in an m+ setting?
2 devs in this GB... neither wants to go aug either sad
i'm a small brain who likes to use his blow everything at once macro
sry i thought we were talking about the thane m+ setup
oh
In AoE opener assuming all up (MT) - Charge > Ava (Reck/Rav) > TR > Rampage > Odyn > Rampage > TB (?) > Rampage > CB (?)
Confused lol
and the guy who had the key left before we started smh man I just wanna farm gilded ;-;
guess im goin prot and getting 5 per run lmao
I like this
you could probably ravager before cds and stil lget the rampage off for unhinged, no?
i feelycrafted this opener on day 1, feelsgoodman
does ravager BT proc BT on all hit targets?
does TC just replace WW now in MT?
nope primary as I know
Yes unless you literally have nothing else then you can WW
for me, yeah
there's still times you should WW
but thats for optimization iirc
i gotcha
ran a few keys and found myself not hitting WW at all
and instead thunderclap into rampage for the cleave
excuse me what?
You already have the cleave from titanic torment I'm assuming in this scenario.
I mean Titanic Rage
i was told it's for those times you have a TB proc and you're moving between packs, you'd want to WW > ramp > TB
sounds very minmaxy I play warrior in m+ to count to 4 and hold w zugzug
for what kind of reason would that be? to not slow the enemies?
oh yea i was playing no titanic for a bit
i think you def want to ravager before cds though
I've been insta sending TB proc when I press ava-reck but I think I'll just do ravager first instead, I should be able to get off the TB before the auto bloodthirst can happen
Just seems the norm to send Reck and Rav together.
ok yeah thats a very niche reason, considerng you dont have enrage up and you just want to build up rage, you could just use any other ability too since the cleave outside of enrage is dogwater anyways
agreed
definitely will get the TB off before unhinged procs
honestly, i like the thane opener
it flows for me
Ravager is just a vehicle for free bloodthirsts during the pack anyway right? It always makes up a fairly small portion of my overall dam
free BBs* 😎
yea which is why i think you send it first
I'm just too lazy to articulate the difference but yeah
as long as yout get BB up for unhinged
how? we need ramp b4 rav?
yeah I'm messing about lol
No you want cds rolling for the 3 free BB you can proc while ravager is spinning
you can get that even if you pop it first
follow the opener brewjj sent above
unhinged doesn't proc right away
On M+, do we use execute without 3 stacks of mfe at all? I feel like its a waste, since we wanna BS asap...
so yes, rampage before rav for BB
https://wago.io/PLpo2nwMT i've been using this
Wago.io is a database of sharable World of Warcraft addon elements
thanks
its pretty easy to get 3 BB's up even if you pop it before cds
yep
!guide
Just press the buttons 😀
yeah about that
do i use thunderclap on cooldown as MT in multi target? or wait for procs for thunder blast only?
Slam keyboard never stop slamming and you win on fury don’t listen to these wanna be chads with rotations - zug is life
i checked wowhead guide
but there is nothing for m+ mountain thane unless im blind
which i probably am
you are indeed blind, click the thing i sent
In aoe you will always find yourself running out of meat cleaver charges (almost always true) before you would feel compelled to hit tclap as a filler
You will be forced to hit it before it can be a filler
To refresh your meat cleaver stacks
oh i see, so there is no more need to use whirlwind then
you technically need to fill with it once in a while but it really doesnt matter if you just unbind it
I have run into exactly one scenario so far where having ww bound somewhere would have filled an empty global, low sample size of keys but
It can happen
i think a 5 minute sim fills with ww like twice on average
eh a lot of the time i use it with 1 stack left
sounds good
since you prio it over rb and exe
thanks
i've yet to run out of ww charges while playing thane and using just TC
maybe during lust?
i might've just never noticed it tbh
is that the opener or is that the prio rotation
feels so much smoother imo
Can anyone help me check why my dps is like not good idk what I’m doing wrong in my rotation.
anyone got a WA for burst of power?
that from wowhead is aor rot
its not a made up thing an example sim cast it twice in 5 minutes
but honestly just drop the ww keybind for thane lol
It almost never happens but it definitely does
is there a way to macro clap and ww together so if clap is on cd you cast whirlwind
oh yeah I'm not disputing it lol, I'm just saying personally I've never encountered it
or it's happened so infrequently that I've never noticed
I think when it happened to me it was a dawnbreaker 10 boss
Well either way, boss is more likely to have a combat length that will cause the gap to happen
Are most still running slayer for raids? Thane is mainly just higher keys to be optimal?
correct
Adds in this raid's fights are essentially built to accommodate slayer burst timings, or rather slayer fits them perfectly
It would take a serious hit to change our hero talents in raid
Only fight I’ve heard people go thane on is Silken Court
I could see that
I want to try it, thane is more enjoyable for me
Although bladestorm probably slaps during the damage amp windows
wich weapon establishment do we choose when mainly going for m+? darkmoon nevertheless?
I signed up to a quazii 10 GB too for vault. He goes "this guys farming something" then still doesn't invite.. it really do be rough out here
LOL
i got invited to dps as a warrior today 
I’m not ready for more rejection rn
BIG MOMENT
i did a pug 10 mists earlier
what io are you guys running around with
and still getting declined from 10s
just curious, I don't even try to apply to 10s
extremely reasonable
264somethin
so powerful...
they need to NERF fury and BUFF boomkins
i got into a 10 sob and a 10 mists
Nerf warrior
i wish i could say how much damage i was doing but no details on laptop
noob
anybody else feel like they time pug keys better than guild keys tho
no
i was doing my 11 dawn i was gapping the group but i ended at 1.2 mil because died 20 times on 3rd mini boss as thane
It’s like they are great players but we just can’t time guild keys
Spongie. Could you teach me how to Dougie?
that doesnt add up
I don't want to warrior anymore. Only dance
go play ascension then
I want a lancer/samurai class
Like a whole new class
No game does it justice
FF just ain’t it
I want like a fast paced lancer spear guy
leveling in that game is so miserable
Idk if you have ever seen any of the Fate anime’s
i can teach you how to kill contest corrupted puppeteer
But they have a lancer who’s sick
can na and eu play together on destiny :3
team has anyone played a prot pally this xpac
yes
ye its just steam
i think raiding in that game is miserable as well. alot of that comes from it being very punishing. like you cannot play ff14 on instincts like you can in wow
What are instincts I use addons and weak auras
idk
I don't know what that is but fuck it. I'm down. We ball
Tell me that wouldn’t be a sick class
ive been playing ui wa and some dungeon one but i legit turned most things off
instinct is just playing the dungeon and understanding
What’s ur ilvl and io
Anything under 2700/227 and you have your answer
im venting not really a question
ofc i use those as well. but in ff14 you need to understand the full fight, in wow you can kinda just do alot of the fights blindly
There are 10 million people queued up for mists to get the trinket, also because it's widely recognized as the easiest key
is it as bad as complainers were saying or is it fun and good
ilvl, io, amount of gold in bags, highest parse, highest WR boss kill, # of toys, # of mounts
need the full list
How accurate is this
What’s your mount collection parse score?
tier list L + bozo
as mountain thane, do we still use whirlwind if thunderclap gives us meat cleaver?
very accurate
seems pretty accurate tbh, although I feel like mountain thane claps in keys now so maybe they go up to A
That's a list of the top key pushers basically not the list of m+ effectiveness wholesale
615, 2700g(just repaired), 14, 3270, 27( where do I find more?), 12(invincible just wont drop
)
at least it has BM at the bottom
its dogshit
That list was made by a mage
They have all 3 specs in s tier
the list is automatically made based on r.io scores
but thats not a good metric at all
Arcane mid af in keys tbh
Which one is wrong
you guys read anything typed in here?
No
It's not a tier list even though it's literally designed to look like one
It's measured by rio score only
it is a tier list, its just a bad one
there's no author because it's just generated by parses
huh
There’s literally tier list in the title
???????
Thank you spongie
Arcane might not be mid but every arcane player is
well, I see what zephn is saying
it's designed to look like a tier list, but all it is is a list of best to worst
Is arcane better or frost better for M+? I see a mix at high keys
arcane is great in high keys
judging by rio scores
This is true but they pushed it as a tier list
Ok, let me explain I guess - it's not a class or spec performance tier list that someone personally cooked up which is what I think people associate tier lists with
Which just makes them even dumber
who decides on where each tier starts and ends? i dunno but it's stupid
It's a rio tier list filtered by specs calculated automatically
there bcomes a point where arcane becomes the most survivable mage spec in high keys because prismatic barrier is the best of all the barriers
yeah ofc, i agree
what animal is good
Fury is best m+ spec cos thats what i enjoy
If the tank pulls around arcanes CD windows*
cat is S tier
So based king
i was talking about defenses
Debatable
but also yes if you're pushing the highest of keys you better be playing around CDs
https://www.archon.gg/wow/articles/help/archon-disclaimers-and-faq i think they explain it in here but i literally cannot be bothered to read this
The way they calculate that list seems different than before the merger
If I see an arcane in a key under a 7, I don’t see them as real.
lets have chatgpt summarize it for us
They will do hot nothing all key
It was a different website before that merged with another
If I see a mage under a 7 I assume they are lazy or brand new
cant say, never played arcane. But this skil is pretty OP that arcane has
No reason not to be 3k as a mage
If I play the M+ Thane build that Archimtiros recommended is there a reason to use WW in my rotation?
whats OP is their party shield
por que no los dos
i've been in so many keys where we go through the entire key and they haven't used the shield once
Arcane when played right, does 1.2M every pull. Arcane in average persons hands in a +5….Id rather have fury
Very very infrequently as a filler
Its prob not worth adding to bars
that's my thought exactly
i dunno about every pull, they're kinda hot garbage with no cds
except no human mage isnt going to not have cds
They have tanks pulling around CDs tho.
i wish i had a tank pulling around my cds 
a sim presses it ~2 times in 5 minutes you're fine to just drop it from your bars if you wanna cut down on space
Why do that, when you can bring 3 Ret Paladins
find a tank player to play with
every pull aligns with their cds 
They sneeze and get wings
perfect, thats what I wanted to hear!!
Their hp bar is pink
Brown superior
hey guys do u have any recommendation about a WA that modifies our health bars?
your best bet would be to ask in #ui-addons-manager
yeah iknow but i wanted to learn from fellows fury warriors xd
yy i understand, ty
hi quick question is mountain thane better than slayer for m+? just really started now with m+ didnt haved time before this but ilvl is atleast 613 for me
both are playable
thane has more sustained aoe while slayer bursts infinitely faster
slayer also has better st
and for lower keys like 4 slayer better think? since packs will not live that long or?
why Ravager over Bladestorm in the Thane build suggested by Archi for M+? Is there a big difference?
this is for all keys
it does more damage
it also lets you do your rotation while ravager is throwing bb
how did thane change this equation if it just does more dmg
I miss bladestorm but using ravager feels so nice
You take ravager on thane cos it lets you not overcap on thunder blast stacks
Since you can tb while ravager is down
it just sims higher idk
Slayer has a lot of bs specific talents and thane doesn't, near as I can tell.
The first pack of any key probably has you bladestorming without any of the buff stacks that add extra swings to your bladestorm but the thunder blast point is pretty compelling
Bladestorm still feels like it fucks with zero extra swings added but thunder blast also fucks
Plus ravager may look low on your overall but what isn't as obvious is all the extra rampages and raging blows casted during the ravager window
It's harder to identify that by just looking at a damage breakdown though
And then any thunder blasts you might have lost if you bladestormed instead
In a perfect world we could get both lol
Queen ring dropping my haste big time 😢
yeah same situation here lol
behold, the sword-and-board fury build, with benefits such as
inability to use raging blow or rampage
inability to spend rage outside of execute phase
reliance on bloodthirst and odyn's fury for enrage, resulting in 50% enrage uptime
the ability to use shield slam, the button that does half the damage of bloodthirst
less dps than just playing prot warrior anyways
Seems good I'm in
Burst of Power causes Shield Slam to light up, but doesn't actually work on it
it's so over
guys, what the best for fury? Everforged Greataxe or charged claymore?
Doesn't matter
as long as its 2h and str they're all the same
whats a typical raidbots sim for patchwerk 1 boss 5 min on fury warrior? want something to compare to
How long is a piece of string
hmm, thanks
Depends on the ilvl
Exactly, and your sim also only matters to the extent that you actually have all of the raid buffs and consumes you're simming with, etc.
Like I can tell you I sim for 1.255m at 626 but that doesn't mean anything if you're 615 and have no monk or shaman in your raid
Yeah but the string length is what I'm interested in
The method and wowhead guides recommend slightly different things. Are there cases where the method choices are better?
Method: cursed mastery, authority of radiant power, ironclaw whetstone
wowhead: radiant mastery, authority of the deeps, mana oil
My string longer than yours I bet
Sim them but wowhead is usually the most up-to-date resource
Millimeter string
Also whetstones are giga expensive compared to mana oil and it doesn't matter THAT much if you're not like rwf guild
I've been using df mastery runes all expac because I bought a bunch at like 2g per when whetstones were like 3.5k per
It's like a 0.2% dps difference
Archis word is law in my books
That seems to be the more popular choice in logs
can you still leap dark exile?
wtf is dark exile
have we recieved the soft cap nerfs for Roar and OF yet?
last boss of necrotic wake
22nd
no clue havent tested that
@golden hare do you know
think you can
I’ve charged and cancelled it, not tried leap properly
p sure you can but you keep debuff
Hey guys. What do you think, at which keylvl is it worth to swap to mountain?
tbh, i never played mountain thane, and i would like to test it now, but, is it good playable in +5s for "gettin into the spec"?
stuff dies too fast in a 5 for thane
you can play it to get the idea of the spec though
but when everything dies in 5 seconds its a bit meh
this is very good gif
Thanks, though about that, so i will go to dummies and join some 7/8s then
(if im able to join groups, lol)
declined all day
runs own key
gets declined in my own key
how does that work
XD
fucking fdk with only 9 interrupts in nw
Bröther, we are the web clearer 5000. Slayer timing is relevant for that.
Yeah I have been Slayer for that. just started playing Thane for m+ today and seeing good numbers
Well
Decent numbers
you didnt understand a single thing he typed
What didn't I understand
Only raid fight I’ve been seeing talk about running thane on is Court.
I didn't disagree with him
You run slayer on ansurek, only to get as many good ST DPS to last phase alive. That is our only function in that fight.
nah
And I guess adds in last phase.
you play it for roots as well
way more important on p3 and p2 than p1
at least on HC
p1 is a joke
the webs have 10m hp
die to passive cleave as long as your raid presses buttons
was watching wes
wes owns
snd he cant solo
Yeah the roots haven't been a problem so far playing Slayer and with some ret paladins and Dk's
wes does own
Our issue is people not getting pulled into the shield in the intermission
I haven't seen p3 yet it's painful to be a part of
do you use rampage only for enrage, or its first prio no matter what?
I’m boutta just start directing them to the Enh Shaman Rotation guide. See how long it takes.
somewhere in between
its not exclusively for enrage
you should just go look at the prio on wowhead
+10 boralus, fuck arcane
Prot warr is good
prot warrior is god tier
yeah but as a "prot" player im never taking a second warrior
u have a 900k ww how lol
cringed
siegebreaker jumpscare
3rd mini boss dawn has to be the scariest pull whole season idc
dps press one singular defensive cooldown challenge
on god she's stronger than the actual boss is
the orb having a radius that causes it to spawn underneath behind the boss has taken many a life
critcake running slayer on 13 boralus why
for the vibes
what missive is the best for crafting axe? Versa and Mastery is good?
sim what's better for ur character
"wants to mix things up no other reason"
vibes was right i guess
They’re completely interchangeable
Siege has very long boss fights
With burst phases
Slayer is likely the better play there
And NW for boss dam
Whereas some are better for thane probably
Do I generally wanna upgrade weapon as prio 1 on fwarr?
Weapon dps > all
no blinding light cast
we brick nw12 on first necromancer pack
pala has all his cc+interrupt up
"thought it was on cd"
"didnt wanna overlap"
"usually someone else interrupts"
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