fury

[south kayak]

a few years back

lol

[hollow leaf]

Dude spends like all his free time working on it I feel like he's more than entitled to get compensation for it

[mossy fox]

There's so much work put into that ui

[frosty ibex]

so you thunder blast only at 2 stacks?

[south kayak]

^

[eager thorn]

you thunder blast whenever you have it

[merry vessel]

if he didn't charge for it, maybe it wouldn't even exist so

[eager thorn]

i just added a stack counter cos i like seeing if i have 1 or2

[frosty ibex]

Oookay

buddy

[livid marsh]

its his decision to spend his freetime on it

[frosty ibex]

thanks

for the share

[eager thorn]

np

[south kayak]

pepega placement on Biz's stream LMAO

[livid marsh]

strange, how do other addons exist

[south kayak]

HAHAHA

[eager thorn]

ok so use a diff addon

instead of stealing a paid one?

[humble plover]

yeah i was just watching shits hella cursed

[restive granite]

why is thunderblast a giant "?"

[eager thorn]

plenty of free good ui's you can have without having to steal smth

[hollow leaf]

there's tons of different WA packs that are free

go use those

[mossy fox]

it's also your decision if you feel it's worth paying for his work

[eager thorn]

best part is you dont even really need to pay

lot of ppl have twitch prime for free sub

[livid marsh]

ofc, thats why i dont and dont use their shit

[south kayak]

yo crit when stream

[eager thorn]

yo box when stream

[normal abyss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/842282125284605975/1293467467972350012/959629D0-B13B-415C-836A-51CAA9179367.png?ex=67077af3&is=67062973&hm=255c4abd8dd6e658545181e4d0c8fa9b09b1acfe00f1887606407dc6022a31e5&

[hollow leaf]

our people will contact your people

[south kayak]

I am deaf

don't ask me to stream

[mossy fox]

in like 9 hours from now lmao

[eager thorn]

destroyer of worlds

[south kayak]

[mossy fox]

got to make money

[south kayak]

watching biz stream meanwhile

what do you work if I may ask

[hollow leaf]

go make that dough

[eager thorn]

chef?

[royal crater]

Should I put 2 gems crit + haste in neck, if I have stats like this?

[flat river]

Critcake i got sacbrood mythic track

[livid marsh]

[south kayak]

damn

[solar moss]

vers where

[wary coral]

u just sim it

[solar moss]

but sim

[south kayak]

Thane BB owns

it TRUCKS

[fiery spindle]

how much do you tip for tw skip?

[south kayak]

1k

[normal abyss]

sim with optimal buffs or only with battle shot?

[south kayak]

lol

[livid marsh]

0

[south kayak]

if it's a raid ST sim optimal

[south kayak]

We gathered that

anyone notice anything wrong in this picture

[humble plover]

not a warrior

[south kayak]

Check the necklace

I'm 609 with that shit

[livid marsh]

craft algari one

[south kayak]

Yeah I'm about to

when I get hallowfall 24

[livid marsh]

im still on my 610 algari neck, didnt recieve a single neck this season

[south kayak]

Those crests from Rep are char bound right?

[somber lake]

how do we deal with the new affix in 10s

[south kayak]

every char can just go and get it?

[strong pilot]

ye'

[livid marsh]

if you mean warbound trading then ye

[south kayak]

Bitter Immunity or healer

[timid forge]

which is better for keys ? Thane AM or Thane RA?

[glossy mirage]

wtf is this vault...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/935107382583918672/1293471231625924640/image.png?ex=67077e75&is=67062cf5&hm=d89acfd524bb627f267b2020e00d20aa53fcd421db477357f4db2e93a1dde4e9&

[humble plover]

yes

[south kayak]

RA

[timid forge]

thanks

[south kayak]

i love Thane damage outside of cds on aoe

you just keep going up slowly lol

pog

[livid marsh]

[eager thorn]

[south kayak]

The Twilight Lavabenders in GB need a big fucking NERF

[empty crest]

didnt they get nerfed last week?

[fiery spindle]

i still don't understand BB/BT on priority? If I'm not mistaken then rampage has priority at max or close to max fury, then execute when it procs, then raging blow and last bt/bb?

[south kayak]

Execute is last

[fiery spindle]

it's not higher dmg?

[livid marsh]

no

[south kayak]

No

[fiery spindle]

aa okay, got it

[south kayak]

Execute is dogshit

They need to SEVERELY buff it

[livid marsh]

lowest damage unless you play slayer with 3 stacks

event then its just about equal to a RB

[queen lagoon]

exception: when the mob is about to die and you have fewer than 3 stacks of MfE, and bladestorm is on CD, you might want to hit execute just to get some bladestorm CD back

[polar isle]

did the patch change something for us? talent-wise?

[flat river]

It's one of the vaults ever

[plucky ice]

[flat river]

[queen lagoon]

?

[meager river]

[eager thorn]

We run thane in keys now p much

Lower keys still slayer cos better burst

[polar isle]

what do you consider lower keys?

[queen lagoon]

depends on mob health compared to your ilvl

[fading sky]

Since when does Crafted weapon NOT count towards crests for Offhand?

[dense drum]

every dungeon where shit dies fast, also depends on ur groups average ilvl n shit

[queen lagoon]

if mobs are living past your burst, MT might be the play

[fading sky]

ahh was just a bug weird

Whats the MT build in M+

do we go into AM now

[polar isle]

kk thx i actually never looked into MT - is it easy to learn?

[queen lagoon]

see #updates-midnight @fading sky

AM is for anniversary patch, maybe

[brazen estuary]

Nice

[fiery star]

lol why did they only push half the changes

[pearl crypt]

wowhead report looking spicy

i think more nerfs are waranted tbf

fury should be nuked to the ground

[fading sky]

Wait interresting

u can choose NOT to play OF

[pearl crypt]

completely unusable

[eager thorn]

Because this is how it was planned

[fading sky]

for more ST ?

[night cedar]

im doubt about vault https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/pVCHaxysV7dUYR8WqLv6Qb

[south kayak]

yeah

[night cedar]

neck sims more than tier but the neck is hc and the tier mythic

and neck isnt mastery/cele

[static spire]

So with Mountain thane, does thunder blast take higher priority over crushing blow/bloodbath in our rotation?

for multitarget

[pearl crypt]

isnt that always the case

[fading sky]

Have ppl tried the NOT

OF m+

[chrome plover]

you can spam mists for that exact neck or stone vault for a better one

[fading sky]

there is no doubt?? take helm its myth track

[night cedar]

Yea probably yes

im still sleepy

Thanks to both btw

[warm swallow]

so is mountain thane just better in M+ now?

[hollow leaf]

depends how long packs live but yes

[pearl crypt]

higher keys for sure

[hollow leaf]

longer the pack lives the better thane gets

[warm swallow]

so for higher keys its better

[pearl crypt]

idk if you go AM tho

[hollow leaf]

RA

[junior gale]

AM is not the play till .5 patch

[pearl crypt]

it is better when pacs live longer

[humble plover]

ive done thane in a few 11s today and its felt great

[meager gyro]

so I've been testing sims probably a lil too much today and on my 612 alt warrior that is SMH only . . . I interestingly am only 1% behind from using 1 handers vs 2 handers https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rDJHF6TkD8bU8LQGxDPgPo

[valid pulsar]

what talents were your running for thane

[fading sky]

do u play with or without OF

[humble plover]

#1273899855852339200 message

[humble plover]

with OF

[plucky ice]

yes

[humble plover]

yes

[plucky ice]

[worldly thunder]

am i supposed to use rampage whenever it's proccd or only when i have 100% rage?

[brazen estuary]

how do i weave in the thunder clap with the thane build?

[livid marsh]

only to refresh enrage or when you about to cap on rage

[worldly thunder]

so basically almost everytime its proccd then

[livid marsh]

no

[pearl crypt]

if u have RA procs it doesnt matter too much

[eternal sundial]

Almost never directly on 80

[pearl crypt]

*you can use ra procs before rampage

[worldly thunder]

also, when do most m+ builds use storm bolt instead of something more beneficial such as seismic reverbiration, concussive blows, etc.

why *

[eternal sundial]

Stun is useful in keys

[pearl crypt]

which is a fucking joke. more power should be shifted into rampage and less into builders. with exception of execute for slayer

[eternal sundial]

It is what it is

Am flips that again

[livid marsh]

make execute great again

[eternal sundial]

But am is shit till 0.5

[eternal sundial]

Like the issue isnt Rampage the issue is RA

[worldly thunder]

what's RA sorry

[fast mural]

Reckless abandon

The choice node AM is on

[lofty delta]

How do addons affect procs??? That's a game game thing not just a ui thing?
RE: Archi's psa

[pearl crypt]

yes but still, even with RA, rampage should always be the best thing to press when u reach 80%

[eternal sundial]

Meh

[worldly thunder]

yea so we are always prio CB/BB procs and leaving rampage only to refresh enrange or when capping on rage

[limpid magnet]

Did they murder fury for arms? whats your guys verdict!?

[fast mural]

Not if you have crushing blow

[worldly thunder]

i think thats it ?

[strong pilot]

spaghetti

[pearl crypt]

ye u suck donkey dick in raid but that's expected however m+ is cool with thane

[limpid magnet]

Funny to be nerfed as fury next to frostdk's

[pearl crypt]

and will be better when anniversary patch hits due to AM buff

[fast mural]

Yeah but frost dks play breath

Which is a punishment itself

[limpid magnet]

Fair

[strong pilot]

lol

[covert void]

thane feels good, a few keys now

nice to have more consistent dps really

[fiery spindle]

wait do we even need whirlwind now that thunderblast gives ww stacks?

[covert void]

not just all burst

[limpid magnet]

so in the raid we should be going arms?

[strong pilot]

nope

[limpid magnet]

Or well should and should

[lofty delta]

No that's the point

[limpid magnet]

Its maximal

[strong pilot]

you dont need ww anymore

[fiery spindle]

amazing

[worldly thunder]

what about when we aren't at 80 rage yet, but rampage is procced, and CB/BB have already been used, so theyre unprocc'd. Use regular RB and bloodthirst to get 80 rage first ? or use the procc'd rampage before 80 rage ?

[fast mural]

Well no fury is still the add grinder

[limpid magnet]

alright

[livid marsh]

rampage cant procc?

[covert void]

good question actually, I always wonder whether to do another rb etc before rampage when not really near total on rage

[limpid magnet]

So sikran, rash and princess then is arms terretory

territory*

xD

[covert void]

like 80-110 do we do another rb before ramp?

[worldly thunder]

i meant if its before 80 rage still yea

[livid marsh]

usually yes if you will still be enraged

[worldly thunder]

like 60 lets say

[fast mural]

Rash is also fury

If you don't have another fury in your group

[covert void]

pressing thunderblast is ridiculously fun

[worldly thunder]

are we better taking culling cyclone or brutal finish in m+ or raids now

[sinful glen]

should i just get the neck?

[south kayak]

hmmge

[covert void]

hm at first glance yeh, looks like it.

[serene moat]

Does Burst of Power NOT have any impact on our rotation?

[south kayak]

use it on BB

[tidal oriole]

isn't that neck crit haste ?

[eager thorn]

Still a good neck

[sinful glen]

it's haste/mast

but more so haste

[tidal oriole]

oh its almost just haste lmao

[sinful glen]

yeah 😛

[south kayak]

a lot of haste

A LOT

[eager thorn]

Sim it to be sure

But its good neck

[south kayak]

a STUPENDOUS AMOUNT

[sinful glen]

the mostest haste

[tidal oriole]

my haste weight is 9 while the all 3 others are 13 lmao

[eager thorn]

A hoard of haste

[south kayak]

can't believe i got 2 items from 1 vault lol

[eager thorn]

Hacker

[tidal oriole]

but i got smt big this week

[south kayak]

Using this one crafts this one

[queen lagoon]

when was the target cap nerf supposed to be in effect? 11.0.5?

[floral olive]

Take neck, and farm 2 rings from GB and Siege be Gucci

[tidal oriole]

Never i hope xD

[sinful glen]

exactly what is was thinking, thx!

[eager thorn]

I havent seen umbriss band yet

[dusty geyser]

is it worth crafting a third piece or upgrading myth gear with crests?

[eager thorn]

Sim it but prob myth gear

[novel perch]

so we play thane in m+ now?

[eager thorn]

[floral olive]

Got it from 2nd GB😅
But siege ring dodging me

[night cedar]

Guys any wa for the Bloodthirst procs?

[somber totem]

Yo guys why no body use the trinket on Princess ? Bloodmalet says its the best one

[pale sable]

any of the ulduar tw trinkets good for fury?

[novel perch]

cuz its clunky to use

[pale sable]

better than the current good ones?

[floral olive]

I farmed GB for whole week, got 3 marks and all rings but no wep

[modest loom]

[south kayak]

what's the name of the armor spike

for nerubians

[south kayak]

What the fuck man

Get this shit outta my face

[narrow narwhal]

Fury loot spec too

[south kayak]

maybe that's the trick

go fury spec and get all weapons

[fading sky]

ok mountain thane

rocks

[south kayak]

no

it thunders

[fading sky]

true

i clap for u

[south kayak]

[twin peak]

Thunder clap for him?

[fading sky]

tbh it plays 100% like i wanted arms to play :D:D

[eager thorn]

[south kayak]

what's the name of the armor patch you use alongside ascension

[fading sky]

good sustain and u get to clap

[eager thorn]

Writhing band

Smth

[south kayak]

Thanks

[trail bane]

Vault was kinda nice to me this week

[eager thorn]

Np

[tawny geode]

whats the rotation for thane fury

[south kayak]

same as slayer but you wanna prio Thunder Blast over anything

[fiery star]

even rampage?

[south kayak]

yes

[fiery star]

oki

[tawny geode]

and ig bt when its buffed

is prio

2 charges ?

[south kayak]

yep

very prio

[tawny geode]

or do i still press CB first

oh yh

and wha bout thunder clap

[modest loom]

So thane is the go to you reckon?

[tawny geode]

im trying

[sullen herald]

Hello guys ! I might need advices for the vault today. Here is the situation :

• Ring Hast/Mast is MYTH track (639max), sim +0.5% at 639
• Neck (rare drop) is HERO track (626max), sim +0.7% at 626
• Legs are MYTH track, using catalyst it's a +1.1%
  Any help appreciated 😄

[tawny geode]

seems almost same damage

[trail bane]

Thunderblast is the buffed version

Thunder Clap has very low prio

[tawny geode]

like a filler in aoe ?

bet

[knotty coral]

Are you sure about prioritizing Thunder blast to Rampage while NOT enraged?

[trail bane]

Same as Whirlwind (use if you need improved whirlwind for cleave, else only as filler)

[tawny geode]

while not enraged no

[livid marsh]

would argue you can use clap on bigger pulls on CD since the damage is higher on average then the cleave you get from cleaver

[modest loom]

We still prio mastery despite thane?

[tawny geode]

and what about openers, just reck ava into roar into ravager

into OF

[gilded pawn]

thats at very high target counts

like very very high

[trail bane]

i think the opener is basically the same as usual

[gilded pawn]

not to mention your BT and RB is still interacting with your kit

[trail bane]

Except Thunder Blast is highest prio during enrage

[gilded pawn]

giving procs and stuff

[knotty coral]

I use the following list on Icy Veins, it seems equivalent to discussions read

[trail bane]

So Reck > Ava > Thunder blast > Roar > Ravager > Thunder blast > Odyn --- or something like that

[noble oracle]

Can anyone make a macro with the sequence thingy for Thunderous roar+Ravager? Something like cast sequence iirc

[clever path]

8====D

[tawny geode]

shit got deep

😄

[lost elbow]

Im not sure if you want ravager before ava, you can cast other stuff while your ravager is down

[sour frigate]

looks like everyone getting this damn neck but me

[livid marsh]

well tc does around the same damage as a regular bt/rb

[lost elbow]

I guess after ava first TB to not cap any TB proccs

[atomic rover]

Do we still switch to thane for the raid or stick to slayer?

[gloomy creek]

whats now say the buff on the new bergthan? its playable/good or trash?

[gilded pawn]

does it, can you screenshot the tooltip for me

[fading sky]

its good

or well it feels rly good to play

[livid marsh]

i cant im away from home but i did take some looks at the numbers yesterday before the buffs

[gilded pawn]

can someone else do it real quick

[tawny geode]

its ava reck into TB into roar- ravager- TB- OF

i reckon

and yeah seems fun

[livid marsh]

ah dont forget seismic reverbaration doing an extra 30% tc damage

[gilded pawn]

your BTs and RBs are both giving lots of different procs to your kit

remember that

[livid marsh]

ofc but at some point one will outweight the gains from the buffs you get

would be interesting to find out at what target count that would occur

[gilded pawn]

usually its going to be like 10+

[tawny geode]

not having BS + of every pack feels ass tho

[gilded pawn]

dont worry

11.05 gives us back AM

[north edge]

i thought i was a boss with thane fury

then i went into a key with a fdk

and got gapped again

[tawny geode]

and BT & RB gives us procs but we always press BB & CB

how does that work 😄

[livid marsh]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1180827112169554000/1293185412168286218/image.png?ex=67071d04&is=6705cb84&hm=ed67c2d0517315533b941fea89585d710d60ad3e74890276c0a70de40dc833db&

relevant

[north edge]

idk if im doing something wrong

but it feels kinda hopeless

[livid marsh]

nah fdk is just busted

[lethal dew]

fdk gaps everyone except for maybe a skilled ass rogue so dont bother

[south kayak]

got this on my FDK

gap time

[trail bane]

Its nice to have because its pretty good for arms

[covert void]

dw guys they have all the evidence, fdk nerfs inc

[fading sky]

Fdk has to get some kind of nerf?

[south kayak]

yeah maybe in a few years

[covert void]

I mean, we got slapped within days, then nerf after nerf. Wouldnt surprise me if they tweak thane again now before FDK gets touched.

[tawny geode]

mate thane feels insane

ngl

[fading sky]

yeah issue is always Frontloaded Burst dmg

tends to get u nerfed INSTA

[covert void]

Issue is they're trash at balancing

[fading sky]

nah

the issue is slayer + fury

when they buffed OF as well to be relevant

if OF wasnt relevant

it wouldnt be to bad

[covert void]

they let a few certain classes / specs be amazing every season and hardly touch them.

rinse repeat

then massively tweak and micromanage others

[sour frigate]

im ww gamer

[fading sky]

nah

its not rly that bad

[sour frigate]

so its bis

[fading sky]

Warrior has been good in every seasson i played

[covert void]

I mean, just another sarcastic type in here I guess

[noble oracle]

Sorry for this noob question again, but can anyone make a macro of castsequence with Thunderous Roar + Ravager? I can't seem to get it to work. Thank you all.

[fading sky]

just not meta

[covert void]

Its not about been 'good'

thats literally nothing to do with what im saying.

[somber wedge]

Shadow-binding Ritual Knife trinket over sacbrood?

[fading sky]

ok i think tuning has been ok

[covert void]

So, you think it's fine FDK hasn't been touched at all?

[fading sky]

ppl just lookin for the 1% gain in dmg

[midnight obsidian]

yes next question

[fading sky]

they are better than most specs ye

but its not OBSCENE

[covert void]

again, not what Im saying.

[fading sky]

so saying tuniung is totally trash

is just wrong

[limber steeple]

is slayer tree gg for now in aoe fights?

[covert void]

Weve been touched with patch notes every single week. Every week a nerf pretty much till this week

[covert void]

False, I'd say it is. for reasons stated. OP specs not been touched with '3 weeks of data' is bad tuning.

but you do you buddy

[fading sky]

well how do u prove it?

what are metrics?

profile matching raid ?

M+ dmg?

[glossy mirage]

not false brother, one of the vaults of all time

[covert void]

okay definitely a troll, cheers, have a good day my g

[tawny geode]

😄

[fading sky]

my point is theres sev metrics ^_^ what content are we discussing

M+ or raid?

prog or reclear ?

highkeys ? low keys ?

[plucky ice]

blizz doesn't tune based on m+

[livid marsh]

technically blizzard should have all the metrics on hand to balance stuff properly, but they dont put in any effort into it most of the times

[limber steeple]

so Mountain > Slayer in M+ at the moment?

[ionic bone]

I finally got some trinkets in my vault, can someone with treacherous tell me if there are any minigames that i need to do every time when i activate it

[fading sky]

problem is prob more tuning is rather rough with this many specs and shit that interact

imho only solution REMOVE FUCKING AUG and lets go

[plucky ice]

remove dk game much better

[livid marsh]

not really, you could balance even with more, just need to put in the effort, changes will always affect other speccs in one way or another

[inner saffron]

hi gokkey

[fading sky]

go back to rogue

[inner saffron]

never

[rigid knoll]

3 mini different mini games, either jump 3 times, stand in a soak circle or soak a ball

[fading sky]

just get weak aura for it

[ionic bone]

how exactly am I supposed to do that for example in first pull of NW when i'm in the middle of 15 mobs ?

[livid marsh]

example, fury got constant nerfs on their burst AoE, -> adds live a lot longer, other speccs with better sustain aoe rise in damage overtime -> fdk dominates aoe but recieves no nerf even while technically being better then fury

then other speccs like BM get gutted in their only thing they are good at for no reason when they are already nearly at the bottom tier

so yes blizzard tuning is ass most of the time

[rigid knoll]

You could cast it before your first pull, if you get either of the soaks they always appear just to the right of where you're facing

[plucky ice]

blizz sucks at tuning,always

[fringe vale]

https://youtu.be/ir8OT9Md7lY?si=OKmlGz0V-P6xbrFs was this already posted? If not, the “models” in any weakaura seems to be tanking ~5 to ~10 ish fps PER model. That means any class WA or raid pack that uses models is killing ur performance heavily.

[honest slate]

Syringe: Yay or nay? My sims say nay, even though my offhand (where it'll go) is terrible. Do I need to set some flag to sim syringe correctly?

[plucky ice]

being last on st has benefits nobody can expect me to do well bossdmg wise

[livid marsh]

except with the meta chasing of even the low end community you barely get to do things with randos

[rocky locust]

For Improved Whirlwind, when it says "4 additional targets", does that refer to 4 targets near me or 4 targets near my target?

[livid marsh]

near you

[rocky locust]

ty

[left nimbus]

what's the prio spells rotation on Mountain Thane?

[somber totem]

💀

[plucky ice]

[livid marsh]

[queen lagoon]

[flat river]

[gloomy creek]

is thunderblast buggy?

[south kayak]

what way

[gloomy creek]

its not proccing?

[south kayak]

Yeah there's a bug with that

#updates-midnight

[jaunty apex]

#updates-midnight

[plucky ice]

[flat river]

Can't wait to get home and play MT

I have made the coolest MT set

[empty crest]

FURY IS SAVED 🙏

[flat river]

REAL

[unreal onyx]

Cant wait to suck big time when learning the „new“ rotation

[flat river]

Same

Honestly wanted AM buffs to come with MT buffs

I hate RA

[sand crest]

finally

[flat river]

Yooo i got the same thing

[unreal onyx]

„Finally“ - got 3 vaults overall

[heady wedge]

Now we play mt instead.?

[sand crest]

spammed ara 7s and it never dropped in hero path, been rocking 606 sac from the start

[flat river]

I was rocking veteran sacbrood until 2nd week i got it

Hero

Now i got it mythic track

Big

[still dove]

My only 623 slot was a sacbrood too. The problem is that last week the only 623 slot was sacbrood as well. I don't know whether this is being lucky or unlucky

[sand crest]

btw for thane, its still CB>BB but BT>RB right

[soft mortar]

So guys..any preferred talent tree for M+ Thane? Finally got a bit of handle on Slayer and now I gotta learn smthn else, fml

[flat river]

I think its BT/BB prio

[sand crest]

aight ty

[hasty finch]

any changes in talents for m+?

[flat river]

ESPECIALLY with the double BT proc

Use it only with BB

For big deeps

[empty crest]

so skip CB and just go ramp>bb>ramp>bb with resets?

[flat river]

No

Still use CB

But

[flat river]

Yeah

[empty crest]

ok good

[silk gate]

Thane bug?

[gleaming siren]

#updates-midnight message

[flat river]

Yeah thunderblast doesn't proc for some people

[somber totem]

CB BB TB im totally lost

[formal finch]

how much dps do we gain with a socked if our vault is crap?

[flat river]

TB prio

Then BB

Then CB

Then BT

Then RB

And rampage to refresh enrage/RA

[somber totem]

I mean the translation bro

Im french so im totaly lost haha

[soft mortar]

thunderblast, bloodbath, crushing blow, bloodthirst, raging blow

[heady wedge]

Ty

[livid marsh]

thunderbaguette blood baguette crushing baguette, baguette thirst raging baguette ez to learn

[flat river]

It would be so funny if they made arabic translation (im arab) the names would be so funny

XD

[lost elbow]

My record was something like 11bt to procc TB

"35%"

[flat river]

If it procs

Then it works

And u just have skill issue

[somber totem]

😂😂😂😂 Ty

[flat river]

No

BB prio over CB

[compact siren]

Cook something please

[flat river]

It's in the slowcooker

Patience young one

They should make relentless onslaught 20% again

Give us 24/7 recklessness again >:(

I will lowkey miss BS though

In M+

[runic violet]

crest farming is exhausting 😦

[flat river]

Yeah

Real

Bring back gilded crests dropping from +7 >:(

[runic violet]

game shouldn't be so tiresome...

[flat river]

Real

[floral olive]

From 7 is too low, 8 perfect:)

[runic violet]

I'm on my 4th +9 today...

[floral olive]

And mythic vault from 9:)

[zealous geyser]

Swap to prot i cap so quickly

[flat river]

Nobody wanna invite lil o'l me :(

[runic violet]

I swapped to ret.. lol

[floral olive]

Prot working better😂

[flat river]

I have my BiS trinkets

Mythic track brood

Hero track stonevault and grim batol trinket

The mastery one

One to raid with one for m+

[warm crag]

im sorry to hear you think myth track brood is your bis trinket

[flat river]

Isn't it?

Brood is best passive trinket

[warm crag]

if you perform like sim does

gl with that

[flat river]

I do

[warm crag]

i dont think you do

[flat river]

Trust

[clever belfry]

"passive"

lmao

this trinket is all but passive

[empty crest]

which trinket are we talking about?

[arctic sinew]

What are our bis trinks for m+ then?

[flat river]

Look ur just jealous that mine is mythic track and yours isny

[mint obsidian]

Which one should i getttt?

[fading sky]

hmm even when we pumpingh

Ret still fucks me

^_^

[frozen tartan]

Well they got buffed

[glass rose]

you should beat them pretty comfortably st

[knotty coral]

So with Mountain, BT > Crushing Blow & BT > RB due to the lost of the Slayer Malice talent (Slayer) ?

[warm crag]

idk treach ara maybe treach skarm

[mint obsidian]

any help here to pick? 😢

[warm crag]

i am not a minigamer my opinion is mostly numbers related not what is actually good in m+

[teal lagoon]

another shit vault im so excited

[floral olive]

I have said before, take neck and farm 2 dng, grim and siege for rings. Or take what has better ilvl up for you.

[arctic sinew]

But you just said sacbrood isn't a bis trink tho

[flat river]

[mint obsidian]

both are better ilvl upgrade, i have 603 on both slots haha

[warm crag]

scroll up maybe and see that the discussion was abt the broodkeeper trinket

[mint obsidian]

but i also play tank as OS

[fading sky]

i thought BB>CB>RB> bt?

well actually

[flat river]

No? I was talking about ara kara trinket

[fading sky]

CB - RB- BB in rotation

[flat river]

I have it mythic track

[fading sky]

to get the 30% more crit chance

[warm crag]

you said brood trinket you muppet

[flat river]

No

[floral olive]

Then neck would perfect

[empty crest]

thats why I was asking

[mint obsidian]

ok

[flat river]

Oh

I did

[arctic sinew]

He was talking about sacbrood buddy

[warm crag]

you cant say No and simply manifest that you didnt

[flat river]

I meant ara kara

LOOK THEY ARE BOTH EGGS

[floral olive]

Heals will love you for this neck:)

[warm crag]

"brood trinket" exclusively refers to the broodkeeper trinket cause literally no one knows the name of it

Buddy

[flat river]

Well what i meant was SACbrood

[clever path]

with tane do you TC like ww just for the 4 stack or does it have an higger prio ?

[warm crag]

just call it ara kara man

like everyone else

[arctic sinew]

If you scroll up you'd see he was talking about sacbrood earlier 🙂

"scroll up maybe and see that the discussion was abt the broodkeeper trinket" : D

[flat river]

Im dumb ok >:(

I can't read or write im a warriror

[prime tundra]

boys any resource on the new mountain thane builds talents?

[flat river]

#updates-midnight

[prime tundra]

tyvm

[fading sky]

how can addons fuck up an interaction with spells btw ?:D

[warm crag]

i scrolled up to humour you and no the discussion started when he called it brood trinket

[fallen sedge]

is taking mountain thane into m+ no longer trolling?

[warm crag]

he called it sacbrood before that relating to a vault screenshot

[empty crest]

such a stupid discussion

[flat river]

I sent a vault screenshot

[elfin vortex]

So we play MT in dungeons right now ?

[desert cloud]

I'm i just the luckiest person EU so far

first week i got myth mark of kharodos then second week myth skarmo shard then this

[flat river]

@warm crag

[covert void]

is arms still better for st raid bosses?

[civic flicker]

Had the Meat hook as well as void pact stone. Full depression mode

[fallen sedge]

I really should start doing +10s but it feels impossible with only pugging :c

[eternal sundial]

I mean it's good but it's just not BIS

[fallen sedge]

I am yet to time a +8 even

[desert cloud]

sadge momento idk this season i'm just lucky with trinkets

meanwhile DF s4 i got 0 drops

yea skarmo better for m+ but that one good as well

[flat river]

It's bis passive...

[civic flicker]

First season I’m playing and I got a tier piece last id , can’t really complain

[flat river]

Other bis is either stonevault one for m+ and grim batol one for raid

[warm crag]

idk is it not?

[warm crag]

i dont think you know what bis means if you say khardros is bis for raid

[flat river]

I know

That transmitter

Is bis

But im too dumb to use it

[desert cloud]

is hero trans better than myth kharodos ?

[flat river]

So its secondary bis

[smoky vale]

thats not what bis means

[warm crag]

feelycrafter answer i think so but sim it

[flat river]

Nuh uh

[warm crag]

stop using the terminology of bis immediately or i will obliterate you

[golden hare]

@warm crag

[empty crest]

frost dk spotted

[flat river]

Please obliterate me from this cruel world

@warm crag

[smoky vale]

[eternal sundial]

@warm crag

[arctic sinew]

+1 classic launch made ppl use that term with no clue what it means

[bright kite]

Any good? It always procs strenght

[flat river]

Is it evil that i roll on every trinket that drops in raid

[empty crest]

what does bis mean guys
Im a classic andy

[flat river]

Best in Slot

[golden hare]

best in slot but often not used correctly

[warm crag]

simulationcraft it my king

but given that its limited to champion track it wont be that good

[empty crest]

how do you not use it correctly

[vague stone]

Ravager after charge or after Avatar?

[flat river]

Both?

[desert cloud]

did anyone get veteran gear from doing tier 8 delves in vault ?

[smoky vale]

you ravager before avatar but not before charge

[desert cloud]

or is it bugged just for me

[warm crag]

idk i had a guy in s4 click bis on hc ashkandur cause it saved him crests that week

[flat river]

Charge into recklessness+avatar+Thunderous roar

[empty crest]

oh

kek

[flat river]

Then use ravager

[warm crag]

bis means absolute best in slot but people are trying to change the meaning slightly by saying oh its bis this week, its secondary bis, etc etc

[arctic sinew]

exactly

[vague copper]

We dont put down rav first?

[smoky vale]

you do

[vague stone]

Ty

[flat river]

Look

You're right

But

I can't read

So you're wrong

[warm crag]

its okay king get back in the kitchen

[molten wing]

its BiS in my eyes 🏩

[warm crag]

we need someone to cook fury to be meta again

[flat river]

Like i said it's in the slowcooker

Something is brewing

[smoky vale]

Thats never going to happen unless everyone rerolls to a broken class and gets them nerfed

[smoky turret]

crit is doing it

[vague copper]

Why charge before rav?

[warm crag]

you do not know the cooking power of Galastronk the Chef

[vague copper]

err

[warm crag]

good question was wondering this too

[flat river]

Thunderblast should cast an empowered BT on your target

[vague copper]

😄

Fixed

[smoky vale]

dont need to, i just saw him burn down a building

[flat river]

Easy ST fix

[worldly thunder]

guys any1 know what ilevel do the timewalking raid (ulduar) bosses drop ?

[flat river]

Champion

[golden hare]

ravager (can) lose a damage tick to travel time (very cool and intended for sure)

[unreal onyx]

Champ I think, cache is hero

[flat river]

I have my ravager macro to drop ravager at my feet

[warm crag]

noob

[flat river]

So i charge ravager

[warm crag]

change it to cursor immediately

[red berry]

what if ravager didn’t suck

[flat river]

No

[red berry]

wouldn’t that be crazy

[livid marsh]

ravager will always suck

[flat river]

I already have spear on cursor

I miss it 80% of the time

[unreal onyx]

Fuck @cursor

[quaint dove]

When deciding main/off hand, is it just highest ilvl in main hand?

[livid marsh]

yes

[unreal onyx]

Yes

[flat river]

REAL

He gets it

[livid marsh]

we need @target api for that shit

[vague copper]

Its the shit.. Spider adds on first boss Ara > Rav @cursor.. I have done my part, keep hit boss

😄

[unreal onyx]

Or throw at boss to kill it faster

[zealous geyser]

Is it a grief to not get the trinket

[flat river]

Yes we need to accidentally target adds that aren't supposed to be pulled and throw ravager on them

[vague copper]

Works aswell but then range cry

[zealous geyser]

Ive been protmaxxing

[flat river]

Wtf u playing WoW on your iphone?

[zealous geyser]

Yea y’all don’t play wow from your phone?

[livid marsh]

sounds like skill issue

[bright kite]

wait you guys have phones?

[unreal onyx]

Range can work on dn and do more dam

[grim prism]

ok thane time

is bloodthirst>raging blow while on mountain thane?

[flat river]

Yes

And BB>CB

But

CB>BT

[warm crag]

depends on if your guild is still reclearing and how likely raid transmitters would go to you

[warm crag]

responding to this

also who are we texting ingame

[grim prism]

cb = crushing blow?

what is BB?

[flat river]

Yes

Bloodbath

[smoky turret]

bloodbath

[flat river]

The RA thingy

[zealous geyser]

No one too impatient at work so had to check vault

[unreal onyx]

RA version of BT

[grim prism]

crushing blow still does more damage than bloodbath

so why would bloodbath be > cb

[flat river]

Bloodbath/Bloodthirst proc thunderblast

[smoky turret]

gives empowered clap

[queen lagoon]

[flat river]

[unreal onyx]

[grim prism]

ah like guaranteed?

[flat river]

No

[queen lagoon]

FWIW, raidbots is still showing RB -> CB -> BB

[unreal pewter]

[flat river]

Chance

Also it's so funny that looks like a question mark

[queen lagoon]

and more RB casts than BT casts

[grim prism]

ok very cool

[warm crag]

wdym

[grim prism]

and thunder blast = thunder clap, but stormstrike?

[unreal pewter]

?

[grim prism]

is that it?

[queen lagoon]

look at the cast timeline, the bot is almost always sequencing it RB -> CB -> BB

[limpid magnet]

Does thunderclap replace whirlwind as mthane in m+?

[warm crag]

can you link a screenshot of this

[tired brook]

yup

[limpid magnet]

Thank you

[warm crag]

sequencing rb into cb is slightly difficult cause its not really possible

[queen lagoon]

oh my bad

not RB, meant ramp

RA

erm, or just Ramp

so Ramp -> CB -> BB

[trail bane]

Outside of reck thats correct

[warm crag]

ye that is how RA is played

is there additional context i'm missing or

[unreal pewter]

There should be glyph that gives Rampage some lightning effects so we can go full "bring me Thanos" mode

[limpid magnet]

Wait you use Rampage?

[sleek badge]

Hello, with MT Build we don't use anymore WW ?

[golden hare]

i think what you want is enhancement shaman...

[unreal onyx]

When new R1?

[limpid magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/james-franco-wait-what-wut-wtf-nani-gif-25479769

[plucky ice]

maybe we could snap fingers and revert all nerfs

[grim prism]

what does thunderblast do over thunderclap aside from being stormstrike damage?

[queen lagoon]

context is in response to claims of BB>CB, for the purpose of proccing TB

[limpid magnet]

alot more dmg

and thudnerstrikes

I think

lightning

[arctic sinew]

it also glows

[unreal onyx]

Imagine if every is also a stun

[arctic sinew]

so dopamine boost

[limpid magnet]

I personally like the thane

[grim prism]

seems to have the same tooltip damage

[warm crag]

wowhead (and i assume sims) claim cb > bb for thane

makes sense since you dont have reap to proc

[queen lagoon]

yeah it's probably just an APL thing

[unreal pewter]

Nah, plate > mail

[limpid magnet]

Look at crashing thunder

ignores armor

and does more dmg

[grim prism]

so aside from that, anything else?

[trail bane]

We are not only gaining Thunder Blast proc chance for BB, we are also losing the reap proc chance

[sleek badge]

TC/TB completely replace WW ?

[trail bane]

So its not at all strange that BB doesnt increase in priority

[limpid magnet]

Heeey hårdaharald LOL how's it going ya old swede

You still raidin?

[trail bane]

Ofc dude

[limpid magnet]

niceeee

[smoky turret]

doesn't thane makes bt 30% stronger?

[queen lagoon]

looking at raidbots, not entirely, but almost

[trail bane]

Cant throw this addiction away

[limpid magnet]

True dat, you into mythic or relaxin'?

[sleek badge]

Is TC/TB animation faster than WW ?

[flat river]

THUNDERBLAST SHOULD CAST BT ON ALL TARGETS HIT

[warm crag]

simplifies and unifies the rotation in st and aoe cant complain

[south kayak]

it's the same gcd

[trail bane]

It does, but Slayer makes BT crits increase BT dmg by 20%

[sleek badge]

For every spells ? Even when BB/BT procs Reap ?

[queen lagoon]

completely agree - I'm keen on keeping things simple

[south kayak]

We don't use that talent

[trail bane]

oh right lol

[south kayak]

BT/BB is absolutely much bigger for thane than SLayer

it's not even a contest

[trail bane]

i've already forgotten everything about slayer

[south kayak]

BT gets 35% from procs that proc a lot

[trail bane]

not good

[south kayak]

and 30% damage from a passive talent

[warm crag]

why apl press cb over it then

[south kayak]

Because of Bloodcraze?

or 4p

[queen lagoon]

it's a CD thing - CB has a higher CD and is charge based, so it is more sensible to press it first to keep things flowing

that's my theory at least

[south kayak]

Obviously Crushing Blow is overall better

im not contesting that

im just saying that BB does more damage for thane than slayer

[trail bane]

I think it could simply be that RB is that much stronger than BB and Reap as a proc is stronger than Thunder Blast as a proc and then GCD use

To make up for the lack of BB dmg increases in the slayer tree

[errant vessel]

It doesn’t have a cd and you could argue the same for BB

[south kayak]

I wouldn't say that, Thunder Blast is definitely stronger than reap

[trail bane]

How so

Reap is 240% dmg and doesnt take a gcd

Thunder Blast procs Lightning Strikes which is 80% dmg

[errant vessel]

TB hits freaky hard

[trail bane]

But does it hit freakily hard enough to make up for using an extra gcd

[south kayak]

yes? considering thane is 14% better than slayer in sustained multitarget

[trail bane]

If every 5th BB procs Reap and every 5th BB procs TB (just for arguments sake) then you still need to use a gcd to spend your TB while Reap just hits automatically

[errant vessel]

I see it crit for 1 mil

[south kayak]

yeah thunder blast can crit for 1m

[trail bane]

So TB needs to be stronger than Reap + whatever skill you would have used in that gcd otherwise

[errant vessel]

Which is then followed by a lightning strike + 30% dam

[trail bane]

And if you are just doing Ramp > CB > BB > Ramp

It needs to be stronger than Reap + Ramp

[polar roost]

[south kayak]

I don't understand your points

[errant vessel]

I wonder if the 30% dam proc of TC also procs the Lighting Strike talent

[south kayak]

they're different hero talents

[steel shard]

wtf is reap

[arctic sinew]

[trail bane]

Maybe im thinking about it completely incorrectly, i still havnt had my breakfast

[steel shard]

[errant vessel]

No you have a point

[arctic sinew]

you're correct

[errant vessel]

Just think TB is that much bigger than Reap+Ramp

[flat river]

[slender perch]

Are we in a position to know if Slayer is better than thane in ST and in Raid Cleave?

would be good to get some builds

[errant vessel]

Slayer wins ST still

You can check pins for builds

Also murlok.io for what top M+’ers are doing

[flat river]

Thane better m+

Slayer better raid

[errant vessel]

Donno if thane wins 2 targets cleave build actually

[sleek badge]

~2% +dps for the ST with Slayer

[warm crag]

should play arms on council anyways

[errant vessel]

7% when full ST build

[flat river]

Ew arms

[errant vessel]

But ye cleave build Slayer is ahead in ST by less

[sleek badge]

Actually this tuning is a great patch for Fury warriors in M+

-2% in ST +13% in multi

I don't know how much this gives overall but I was already blasting a lot of shams/dk in high keys so

I take it

[flat river]

Same

Plus

[queen lagoon]

esp. on trash hp week

[flat river]

[queen lagoon]

[unreal pewter]

[steel shard]

still cucked on big pull id imagine

dk is not aoe capped

[flat river]

is the new

[warm crag]

it really is not

[flat river]

It is

[errant vessel]

Surely they’re softcapped?

[steel shard]

no

Dots are not capped at all ofc

remorseless winter is not capped at all

breath is not capped at all

[flat river]

WB rime

The howling blast proc

[steel shard]

that thing does 0 dam anyhow

just for the dot

[smoky turret]

iirc breath is capped

[steel shard]

does not say on the tooltip tho

[errant vessel]

It deals less dmg to secondary targets

But donno if that follows a scaling similar to softcap or what it does

[smoky turret]

i think it means 1 target soft cap

[steel shard]

oh yea

icy death torrent aswell

is not capped

like dk is not ok and warrior will never be close

unless you do 1 pack at a time or some shit

[errant vessel]

Ye if tank is actively ruining Breath windows for the dk

[half valve]

Anyone with a macro for TC if Thane and WW if Slayer? 😄

[flat river]

There is one but i dont like it

[half valve]

Care to elaborate?

[flat river]

It doesn't show CD or TC proc

Critcake made one

[half valve]

ah ok

[warm crag]

only matters if you use actionbars to track stuff ig

[half valve]

true

[flat river]

I do

I have a weakaura from luxthos to track everything

[warm crag]

then you dont need actionbars to track stuff or

[flat river]

Yet i only use it to track WW stacks and enrage

XD

[warm crag]

cooked

[warm crag]

im digging it up givem e a sec

[molten wing]

you mean i don't have to play like this

[warm iron]

yo, whats better hero transmitter or myrhic khadros mark?

[molten wing]

?

[warm crag]

#showtooltip
/cast [known:436707] Thunder Clap
/cast [known:280392] Whirlwind
/cast Slam

[flat river]

SHIFT+E FOR TC???

[molten wing]

yeah for sure

same for WW

[flat river]

No way bro

[eternal sundial]

Demonic health potions

[flat river]

Shift+E is for execute always

[warm crag]

ew the dps faq thane build is using the worse defensive

[eternal sundial]

Buy the real one's

[molten wing]

[flat river]

SD ring from legion

[molten wing]

haven't swapped the icon since legion

[fading sky]

Steadfast is prob

the best for this week ?

[flat river]

I see people use bitter immunity for the new affix

[fading sky]

makes sense tbh

[flat river]

But its 2 min cd

[fading sky]

3m

but also when healers are dog

[flat river]

And affix is 1:30 min cd

[fading sky]

😄

[warm crag]

wdym with cd or tc proc

[molten wing]

btw Cavedweller hp pots do not share cd with the algari health pots , so i keep them just in case a pepega healer appears or i end up in a pepega moment

[hybrid snow]

best layout?

[valid pulsar]

jo guys raidbots tells me to put mastery haste in all my 6 socket slots + 1 meta gem. does anyone here get the same results ? all other warriors i see have different kind of sockets probably to enhance the meta gem.

[flat river]

Like the macro doesn't show the CD of TC or the TB procs

Since it only shows WW icon

[fading sky]

iwth burst of power

[warm crag]

i dont know what those acronyms mean in thane context

[fading sky]

do we just send 2 bts at once?

[flat river]

Thunderclap

Thunderblast

[warm crag]

the macro i linked does

[flat river]

Not for me

[fading sky]

also do we ever press Execute in thane ?=

Mt build

[flat river]

Last prio

[warm crag]

why it should just track thunderclap if you know it as a spell

[fading sky]

so

[molten wing]

its a cosmetic button

execute atm

[fading sky]

bb-cb-bt-rb-clap-execute ?

[flat river]

Thunderclap has a cd...

And it doesn't track it...

[opaque solstice]

guys im looking to sim my weekly chest for m+ : is dungeon slice sufficient?

[flat river]

Nor does it show thunderblast procs

[queen lagoon]

same here, raidbot knows all

[half valve]

ty mate

[flat river]

Cause you didn't type anything in tooltip?

The old one was

WW

Showtoolip WW

[warm crag]

you can click these two checkboxes i think you can approximate that it will be optimal to mix gems

[molten wing]

now make the macro cast WW if Thunder Clap is on CD

[flat river]

No ew

[warm crag]

man gala i dont think we have the same macro i nabbed this in like prepatch

[eternal sundial]

Photoshop and LIES

[flat river]

Mine has the same everything

But

[eternal sundial]

[warm crag]

[flat river]

Mine has showtooltip Whirlwind

[flat river]

[opaque solstice]

guys im looking to sim my weekly chest for m+ : is dungeon slice sufficient? i seem to remember doing something else to sim more effectively in bfa but i dont remember