#fury
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Tbh not sure why everyone likes having a good tier %wise
more dam = fun
Ya but just ask for better balancing then
idk imo as long as it switches up the gameplay its fine
which it doesnt for fury
on top of being shit
when you already know that aint happening then what
I'd rather my tier be interesting than big % increase
get weap from first boss send vers bsl and go arms 
Then they ain't buffing tier either lol
then whats your point
k
waves were riding high on ansurek splits yday and i got yelled at for playing arms xd
Embell wise u mean?
My point is people complain about our tier being bad when they should really complain about balancing
y
isnt tier part of balancing
The balancing of our tier is bad
im on phone cba checking
ok atrocity is running ascendance
makes sense
idk ascendance hard to beat in raid
Ok but what's the difference between you doing x dps (where x is some target blizzard set for you) with tier being 10% of it, and x with tier being 2% of it?
The balancing of classes is bad not the tier
He’s right though, you don’t want your class balanced around tier tbh
theres a reason we dont put much effort into tierless APL or guides for tierless rotations
Id rather start weaker and actually get items
Well of course, its assumed yiu get the tier
Than know im never going to see tier
facts
But the actual % increase tier gives you is irrelevant
As long as it's an increase

Lmao

CBA to commit time to raiding anymore
While we are talking about balancing… are enh sham just cracked rn

Thoughts on swappin to powerful enrage after 30% haste ?
whatever sim says
Everybody here slaves to the robots smh the uprising for them is gonna be so easy
"Should we Rebel against the machines and maybe not be slaves or die?"
"Sim it"
xalatath's bargain is the first affix that warriors can do
feel craft for the win, brothers
Gonna switch to an actual hard spec to play . Going ret 
You could stun the ghosts that debuffed you
Hey guys just got treacherous transmitter and put the WA, my question is do you do the task before bursting, or just send everything together and do the task during your burst ?
1s before pull I think would be optimal no idea in combat lmao
kinda like azshara trinket
why would you ever spend brain globals during burst to do the puzzle?
still salty about the added 3% for no reason
so why would you not just jump 3 times and press your buttons
do the task ahead of time
fury burst is so frontloaded
Just use Transmitter pre-pull and prepare to finish it when the pull starts
So you don't even have to think about it
Hey guys, do we start using our sparks yet or are we still holding?
This way you also have the cadence mid fight where it's ready before CDs and you then finish it as your CDs are ready. If you have to hold CDs due to downtime on some fights, you just do the same where you finish it before CDs and you're gucci
You can use them, with the general recommendation being a weapon
Ok perfect so I should just follow the wowhead guide for what to craft / what gear to farm?
hello, can someone explain me what to prio in m+? the rotation i mean
where can i see how many sparks i have
Zug zug i guess It is
anyone got the unsheathing the sword release spirit meme? cant find it
your bags
anyone know where i can uptrade my crests from the lower to the higher one?
where do u get it from ?
The lot lizards where you upgrade stuff
ty
ty
weekly quest I think, it's in your reagent bag if you have some
Near the dracthyr that upgrades items
damn so if i didn’t get it i missed out ?
pretty sure there's catch up
oh u cant exchange when ur maxed out unlucky
After i get the sparks what’s the max ilvl i can craft of wpn?
606 i think with no added crests
goes up to 636 with mythic crests though
the person crafting needs to have the crests not me?
No
nah, its something you have to provide
But you can make your enchanter friends happy by making some crest they need the skill points
true story
did we get further nerfs in 11.0.5 or is it just the merges from live?
on charged claymore should i put haste mastery ? or haste versa ?
Hey guys. Trying to help a fury guildmate here
If I understand correctly you spam crushing blow over Rampage even if you are rage capped ? As long as you have crushing blow stacks
I put mastery vers, mostly because I plan to run high m+ an vers is better there
Correct. Assuming you're enraged, CB is always above Rampage
hey y'all, new player to wow. Been doing some dungeons on my level 23 fury warrior and been lowest damage every time. Should I just not worry about that until I level up a bit more and get more skills?
Rampage is only used every X seconds to stay Enraged right ? It should be under crushing blow in damage dealt then ?
dont look at damage numbers
dungeons during leveling are scaled weirdly, so it doesnt reflect your actual damage + ur just leveling so why worry about your damage just worry about hitting 80 asap
@arctic zephyr incase you didnt know start running timewalking dungeons im pretty sure they give more xp
It should be under CB in damage yes, but it's not that black and white and it's used when the priority tells you to
how would I do that? chromietime into a different expac and just queue up?
New to wow not even Max level and already found and chatting in a class discord. Absolute gamer
Ha, just didn't wanna be a burden to people.
Crushing blow just does more damage than rampage while also making rampage do more damage itself. You dont want to overcap rage for many other reasons, crushing blow is just an insane button
Even raging blow is an insane button because of the amount of synergies it has
My buddy is playing by instinct I think, generating rage and spending it on Rampage and that the end of his thinking process.
Do you guys know important point I should check in logs to help him out. He is not a bad player by any means but he wants to try and be a really good fury player
@teal pine said that you dont want to overcap rage. In top logs i see a lot of wasted rage, in favor of more CB cast. Any reasoning behind that ?
But yeah as stated before don't worry about your dmg while lvling. The game is weird during that period just focus on lvling up and learning the game. In the DPS FAQ channel you will find links to guides that will help you learn to do big damage at Max level.
you overwrite a CB cast by casting Rampage before using your CB stack
'higher' being 8+ i guess. im not pushing a super amount for acouple weeks as work. just wanna know what the better spec will be going beyond 10
simple rotation is just ramp - cb - bb - execute/filler - rampage - repeat
Yea CB is worth overcapping for and most of the wasted rage will be from it and thats fine
optimally theres a lot more nuance to it, but you'll get pretty far just going DF S3 rotation
with cds you'll overcap like crazy but outside of them you shouldnt
just change what ur queing for in the dungeon finder
there should be an option for timewalking there
fury is the most likely candidate
unless youre levels too low then youll have to go to 70 before u can do timewalking dungeons
Any advice? im thinking of taking the set piece and and catalyst another one for 2/4 set
Do you mostly just raid?
No i do both, progressing heroic slowly with guild but doing m+ a lot soon
How far can i upgrade the normal Weapon from first Boss ? Was it 619 ?
hi! been using shard for so long. i got queens mandate yesterday from timewalking quest. it sims significantly lower than shard but all bis lists ive read says this is a good option close to bis (transmitter is bis). any advice?
I don’t really care about anything other than getting crushing blow off over rampage and my single target went up. Just prioritize CB and not worry about much else like over capping rage
Unfortunate transmitter is normal or I’d say take that. I’d probly tier the shoulders
Those are bis boots though yeah? Mastery haste?
Yea i have the normal version of them
Did you do raid for this week yet?
on normal so far, heroic later this week too
I’d wait on your heroic raid drops
my 2 cents make the transmitters be jumping and picking up the ball only
not the ciorlce u must stand in
I’m very concerned about your xmog tbh @thick ether
Particularly the pants
But really the entire thing is problematic
if nothing drops, u say shoulder and tier it?
Damn they're trying to keep fury down

wdym
Yeah I would. How big of an upgrade is that transmitter? Did you sim it?
nope ill try
Either way you can get m+ trinkets
They nerfed BS/Odyn in the ptr sadly
More?
Its the ones we just got. There arent more coming
Id take the trinket tbh, i heard its pretty good
Tho should sim it
603 tier is pretty low imo
The delve one i mean
It simmer high for me
ooh ik that tought there was more nerfs
Tho i also didnt get lucky to gdt an on use mast trinket from m0..
I have it at 606 and it loses to sacbrood in ST but beats it in cleave
He’s sitting at 0 tier though, I’d still probly do shoulders
How is fury feeling after nerfs? Still viable?
feels good in raid, but in m+ I would rather tank personally
You wont notice the nerfs
where do I get this embellishment?
AH
whats the name?
ty
Is it actually giving 300k secondaries
Yes the tooltip is very accurate
I think I’ll beat revvez
If I can get 300k secondary
I can beat revvez if he’s in df s1 gear
are rets just overtuned in m+ atm
And I’m in tww s1 gear
rets are definitely strong in m+
Hey rotation question, do you just pop Bladestorm when it goes off CD or do you wait and line it up with CDs again?
none there 😦
Check your filters/reopen the AH
try like this: Darkmoon Sigil: Ascension
have no filters and did reopen ah
can u still use old drums in m+?
lol
ty ❤️
I need to get GM or SV trinket lol
so should I enchant my weapon with Stormrider's Fury or Darkmoon Sigil: Ascension? which is better dps
one of those is an enchant the other is not
oh then I can use both?
No
im new to crafting
im confused
is that another nerf
nope
Embellishments like ascension need to be put on while crafting, enchants like stormriders you just right click in your bags and apply it to the weapon/gear
no thats the recent changes just being shown
box just be quiet
so real banzaie
I will be the target of abuse later today from Virent
When I skillfully press CDs into BS
can't wait
so if I put in a work order or give my guildmates the mats, I give them the ascension right? then after I enchant with Stormrider's Fury?
Correct
dope
Once you have it in bags you can put enchant on it yea

Technically you give them the mats by providing them in the work order 🐀
ment like random vs guildmate doing the order
Or be a rat like me and make them provide the mats
hate banzi
Why hate
I am such a helpful part of the guild
I've crafted so many cloth pieces and crests
Given away my concentration selflessly (jk I'm good enough to not need it)
how much mastery should we have ?
yeah
thank god you are a contributing part of society
@oblique trail
i'm only saving concentration for my eventual craft of the mythic weapon
wtf?
Brother pinging me at 6 am kekw
think anyone would do this? or should I farm the sanctified alloys?
how can u farm them?
I have a blacksmithing char
if u dont pay for the alloys the crafter would provide, no one would do it
How far is the Weapon of first Boss upgradable on normal ?
Sure for a 200k tip
I bought all the sanctified alloys but left me broke lmao
Yeah and you expected a blacksmith to go broke instead?
I might get stuck in Prot jail all season, waiting to craft anything.
idk how this new system works. its very confusing
Thx Mate. So then i wont craft a Weapon and can craft 2 other 619 Items instead.
What's the build now that we know the fight?
You either provide all the materials or not
If you don't provide materials you compensate with gold
I like how some ppl put orders with zero mats and no gold to crafter
lmao
what do they expect
Befouler's Syringe, Is it worth it?
👍 If the sparks work the same way as they did in DF you'll be able to keep upgrading it up all expac. 6 of one, half dozen of another I guess.
if I put this up, would I need to add more gold to get it max crafted or?
don't use public order
Depends on how greedy the crafter is.
find a crafter
trade chat
trade chat
ok. so the spark and crest is soulbound, so how would that work? sorry I'm just coming back to the game
You have to put the order in at a table
Look for a big hammer on your map
The crafter will want some money for their Concentration as I'm sure you can't max level these things without it
Just negotiate with him
Usually sending him his IP address and location helps Greatly with reducing the price
Max rank?
I can do that
Depends on the item, but if you've max invested into a particular item type (and perhaps use extra skill consumables) you wont need conc
On my tailor I can make 619/636 gloves/boots with no conc
My blacksmith is "fully" specced into professional tools and I can't even reach rank 4 without consc
I figured it's the same for other specs
always need r3 mats
Even 636 without conc? What kind of a monster are you
im 603+ in every slot but my weapons are both 593 and its holding me back a lot
I only tried r2 so far
rng sucks
I'll check later
Going from 619 to 636 is only 10 more difficulty
And 606 to 636 is only 20 more
mats matter a lot
But the difference from r1 to r2 mats is so small I doubt it will help
blue tools is also pretty big. should get craftsim to see exactly what you need
r3 mats are gigantic
Thought its more. Maybe its my tools then.
r3 mats provide 40 skill imp retty sure
Does it tell you how much the rank3 mats add to skill
craftsim ui is actually atrocious
yea
Great I'll download that today
It's so bad, it's straight up out of 2004 vanilla addon lmao
Tools/Mats/Skill/Spec all adds up
vanilla addons looked better
lmao
I fucking hate how they give us info on your skill and what skill you need but don't tell how much skill materials ad as base
guys have you crafted the weapon or wait for 636 ilv craft?
Like my tailor is fully specced into gloves/boots, and the 2 nodes before that for general skill increase
Whoever designed this needs to be fired
hey guys quick question : do the wowhead pages take into account the most recent nerfs ?
in what context
mythic +
What kind of changes would they make
idk, since bladestorm is nerfed, maybe it can be rebalanced somehow
The nerfs wouldn't make any super tangible difference
back to ravager 
like maybe reckless abandon would be preferable over anger management ?
since spamming bladestorm is doing less damage
or that xd
Thane Ravager it in boiiiiiis
no one can stop me from playing thane in m+
lmao
thane ravager SMF
no one is playing AM to begin with
@runic cypress im also specced into profession tools on my dk and this is the difference between mats. T2 is missing 92 skill and T3 just hits it
has anyone been playing thane in m+
God fucking damn
How are u on bosses
I gave it a few spins, what about it?
Hold on let me check
I haven't tried it yet
ok :p
Morning cuties. Is the Sacbrood still one of our bis despite trinket nerfs?
I felt my prio dam was too low for Tyra, so I swapped back. Overall was a bit lower, but too small sample size to say for sure
Yuh uh
Yes, the trinket nerf basically changed nothing
thanks for the information
3% thats basically the set bonus!!!
we make up the 3% by just outgearing everyone else in the raid, it's simple
just get more gear
Yeah Erga made all the raid encounters
I wonder if I'll ever use a transmog for more than one fucking hour
why is it so hard to find something good
@hard widget can you send me your execute WA?
do you have blue tools?
how much haste is enough (my haste is by 23%)
yea you need those too
When your top gear raidbots tells you not to get more
ok
im missing like 115 skill with r2 mats and green tools
i spent all my accuity on the mats
i thought we could dward the volatile acid off in mists?
fucking green tools
am I a complete idiot if I craft a weapon with no embellishment? I dont raid so I dont really want ascencion
Not necessarily
yea all blue tools gives 22 extra skill which you need for most things
Weapon craft on its own with no embellishment is an easy way to get a high ilvl weapon
did you guys craft the sword? which ilvl?
I crafted an axe because it's cheaper, no difference between them other than mats
i was wondering about getting it fast but its expensive
halberd too powerful!!!!
i don't want to spend that much rn and then re-craft for 636
you could use the 40 skill one though and make it
dont craft at all then until you can craft the 636
Then craft it when you can insta send 636
actually i am missing just the exact 4 skill points in my smithing anyway
so 60% of the craft
im hoping to get those from guildies having tools crafted
mmm
It's 50% of the BS mats
is it a huge upgrade for raid?
a mythic weapon is, anything below that is not worth crafting anymore
A high ilvl weapon is a huge upgrade for all content
i got to 100 with everburning ignition crafts which is super cringe. working on that part on my warrior now
But as Spongie said, personally wouldn't bother crafting unless you have a lot of gold until you can insta send 636
yea its awful
i should go get some acuity i literally have like 10
NOOB
okay tnx, i'll rush m+ till 10+
Explode
OW!
for 636 craft

i will do to you what max did to boose yesterday
You only have to do +9 to get Gilded, which you need for 636
ah cool
Only 
What did he do to boose!!
:(
i'm not sure on how much it will be hard
:(
last time playing was rushing 22 23 in shadowlands
Depends a lot on the dungeon
skipped dragonflights
nice
Kinda wanna tank but have no good 1h or shield lol
Anyone else just getting bent in grim batol
ye same, prob just gonna spam a few mists keys. drops a 1h and shield
2 groups just boomed at end boss
Batol? Not in particular
in looooooow keys
good point
I'm confused, why is alchemical chaos suggested flask when you could get a flask with straight mastery and not reducing other stats at almost the same stat point when you subtract the stats from alchemical chaos?
grim batol difficulty curve add wise is a vertical spike at the end ye
what's the name of the food for primary stat
Was tanking 9s with a 483 shield, you can do it
Hello everyone! I have a question.. i saw a warcraftlog where a fury warrior got his second bladestorm after 18 seconds (he used one on pull and then the second in 18 secs). Does any ability other than execute reduce bladestorm cooldown??
link?
Granted I had a 613 weap
Explain 
idk man the corrupt cast trucks before the add debuff comes in
we can refect it but u cant run a 5 warrior group
#arms message explained it here but applies to both Arms and Fury
he got 1,8mil dps on ovi'nax with it but... i find it hard to replicate a 18 sec bladestorm cd
that is so dumb, theres no way you will wanna leave adds alive
the log is bugged
but if they die they get debuff
Long story short, more stats than individual, tempered potion pops all 4 stats instead of only 3, can use all stats as Fury/Arms
and corrupt shits on you
Oh , thanks... i was wondering if he holds his bladestorm until adds spawn on that encounter
bruh
I can never tell if it’s worth holding on pull like that for broodtwister
Just send
i never hold
Adds spawn so late
Imagine if
actual was casts. Big dam
sniping that AoE is important.. we have 2 furys in our raid. i need to beat him Lol
If you use cds asap on pull for ovinax then OF and BS have like 8s on cd when adds spawn
you have the average amount of fury warriors in your raid doesnt seem too bad
And theyll prob live for full duration of both
I’m the only fury in my guild but we’re normal andies
So tempered pot doesn't consider the buff from chaos to be a tempered flask?
Sadge
Alright! i'm gonna try that today
Correct
in m+ content do we send sudden death proccs on cd or wait for 3 marks of execution?
Enjoy the
logs
Np hope it helps
I also found dropping a point of armour > strength for uproar to be alright if ur guild needs more add dmg
I gotta lock in this week and see if I can’t get some 90s at least
clueless
Haha appreciated brother
getting rekt-ed by dks and enhas in keys and they wanna nerf us
There probably won’t be any tuning passes until RWF is over
Blizz is like,oh fury has crazy high numbers for 15 sec,but dks are fine
You see, we were having fun and Blizzard won’t allow fun in this game if they can help it.

still trying
Heard you
I needed this 
Today is the day I get a 9 mist
I got an 8 mist
If you’re na
No problem
wondering this too
If u dont have AJ talented, execute value drops quite a bit
Agreed, the 3% nerf was premature
Stilgar my goat
Is this the one when you merged SD w/ Ashen Jugger and you renamed it or it's an updated one ?
How can blizzard think that caustic spatter from assasination is balanced ?:D
5 out of 7 devs main assa
I merged it yes
Hi lads, what’s your average dps on mythic 7>?
And also updated some stuff on it
It were just some minor bugs that got pointed out to me that i fixed
Found this one too https://wago.io/9n9GqeQ6- if it can help you in some way idk
It's for arms but should work the same i guess
Is 2pc worth it
I even ask myself if 4p is worth
2 and 4p is, it just isn't a high priority
Oh thnx, but i made this weakaura for my own ui 😂 im no WA developer i suck at it ahaha
of coz like the amount of dmg that thing does VS OF is silly 😄
ok did one key with thane, you could feel st a bit
I did a 8 mists no prob, and I'm only 600 ilvl. I want tanking, I had flash backs to Shadowlands.
A simple English version of the chinese WeakAura "仙林迷宫全自动导航系统 MoTS Maze Automatic Navigator" (https://wago.io/
Now u’ll know where to go ^^
Anyone know a guide I can use for Fury macros?
Thanks but thats tank job
hello guys wich item of our set are we not taking this season ? thank you
There is not a lot of macro’s that are important tbh
So a simple macro for reck and avatar would probably suffice?
Helm
I’d advice u get a stance dance macro, im on the phone so i cant link it. But im sure someone else can link it for you
Do you rlly need to stance dance ever
Idt ive left zerk spec in my time playing retail
it has to be gloves no @eager thorn or i'm totally wrong ?
You catalyst gloves instead of helm tier
Everything has changed since my Cata days. So all my old macros are useless. Im still trying to relearn the game again
Just look at bis lists for gear
ohhhh i see
If Crushing blow and Bloodbath are off CD, I'm full rage and already enraged... do I Rampage or do I eat the rage and CB -> BB -> Rampage?
Just get urself a swifty one shot macro and stance macro and ur fine
U CB always, BB if under 100 rage or if u got vicious contempt and target is below 35% hp
Stance dance macro something I can just google?
How you all feeling with the nerfs to fury anyone doing higher keys on fury ?
Look in the FAQ
Surely someone here can link the macro
Not had chance to play yet with work to test myself
#showtooltip
/cast [stance:2]!Defensive Stance;[known:386164]!Battle Stance;[known:386196]!Berserker Stance
I'm feeling the same as I would have without them
Fury is still good
Same feels good to be warrior main and not fotm
If we get nerfed hard enough i just turn off details
Great glad to hear, I wasn’t sure if we would have to swap to mountain build with the nerfs on slayer
I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong the other warrior in my guild has a similar I lvl to me and yet he is doing 200k more dps
I cant decide what to craft, any more definitive updates since the updates?
Check logs
See what hes casting vs what ur casting
And also sim cos ilvl doesnt just mean good dmg
If ur in full int gear but ilvl 620 ur still gonna do fk all
There's a thing such as too much of a hyperbole
But revvez does it differently reeee
I tried looking at logs but I don’t understand what I’m looking at
Compare too yours
Open the casts part and look at what he is casting
You can also look at the rotation for fury and compare it to your logs, check to see if you’re actually following it
Because he uses a different APL, different prio, same numbers
I know
Tbh I would argue the prio he uses is a bit easier for beginners
Probably ye
Because its fairly straight forward
Im ilvl 530 lvl78 and atm my average is 150-200k single target. Not sure if thats good or not
bro imma live and die by Wolfdisco just going CB BB Exe Ramp
Ur not maxed or good ilvl, doesnt matter
Id imagine most ppl dont know what dps is good pre 80
is anger management better than reckless for m+?
That's what all the echo warriors do
If u want to know if u do “good dps” just sim and look how close u are to that number
The closer u are the better ur playing
No
And, on cleave bb and cb even swap around
In the prio
Revvez prios bloodbath over cb on 2+ targets
You cannot really generalize
Depends on gear, like i said sim urself so u can see how much dps u can do
Sim as goes of your gear
When I simmed prior nerf I was simming around 1.2mil aoe & 900k ST
Revvez apparently simplified APL a lot for a minor loss friday during hc week
Dps numbers was a big factor back in cata.
Im still getting used to all the new rules.
But idealy is there an average number Mythic raiders want to see?
ye, he wrote this in his guide too
Yeh
That very much depends on what fight it is
Where do you see this
It's very simple, it might be a slight loss over optimal play
talking to Wallife or Anda who talks a decent amount to Swag
why is that so many times when I use 2nd oil it goes on the main weapon again instead of offhand
bro we even had an iteration with Slaughtering Strikes playing a factor for RB prio 
Wait a moment
Before applying
dont spell queue it
I know
It's all cringe
Fury ST is all cringe
And I doubt there is people who can consistently make it do more than
Zug zug revvez
Cb bloodbath execute
Showed it to Walli who instantly went "no way im tracking that for a 4k gain" lol
It's not even about tracking
isnt it just as many cbs + RBS are possible springle in with a BB ?=
It's about making the right decision then as well
in aoe build
While tracking everything
While also playing the fights
On a dummy anyone can do it easily
the real question is, whats the punishment for sub optimal play
curious about this line in the rotation guide. is the part about opporunist because we want to save it to use with a crushing blow insteadof using it on the raging blow?
like do we loose A LOT by a mistake
If you have brainpower to think about opportunist then its cool to optimize it but if you dont then theres really no need to stress about it
Yes
at 100 u wanna press rampage is all ?
cool thanks
Raiding rules are different. Cata was all GS and dps. Heroics all dps needed to be at minimal 50k dps to even be considered if I remember correctly.
I mean technically the apl is also not 100% optimal because I'm sure there is cases where you would use bloodthirst above 100 rage
sooo happpyy 🙂
yeah i just wanted to make sure that was the reason forpotentially wanting to hold onto it until casting rampage again to empower it. im sure i wont always have the brainpower to do that lol
People are of course going to care about your dps but there generally arent going to be set numbers people are looking for. Its the same in that people are going to care about your item level but just get gear and play your class well and you'll be fine
It is a very slight gain and if you mess it up you lose more than you gain in some ocassions
So don't do it unless you know you can
For example if you cb and then don't get a reset and you are stuck without cbs
Just go zug zug
Hows single minded fury looking these days?
Worse than th
As described to me, some things are not worth to implement because they'd make it too complicated
Tg*
Yeh exactly
You basically lose 2 talent points
For cosmetic effect
come on now its only 1
Okay sorry
I had a ringworm once too
5% dps worse
say i was just under 100 rage thogh and i get an opportunist proc, and using either RB or BT will give me enough to use Rampage...in that case i'd save the opportunist proc, use BT to generate the needed rage, and then dump the opportunist with the CB...rather than just using the RB to generate the rage
correct?
yes
its 80
doesnt matter
What missives should I use for my charged claymore?
Can sim it
the amount of haste items has are insane ;:D
Yeah its always been lower then TG.
Just wondering if someone worked out the kinks to make it viable.
When it first launched lotta people said stacking haste would be the best way to go with it. I never gave it a chancs, always loved my 2h weapons.
I'm running good old 1% versa and 20k haste
16k haste atm
timeless classic
Are we rocking the claymore for M+ and raid now?
And upgrade everything
Technically claymore is better for m+
If you are infight all the time
xDdd
Ascension just sounds more powerful than a little bit of verse buff lol
idk what to do tho im conflicted
I wonder if it's worth using a stamina socket for the crit damage
Last time I simmed that it said no
But my crit is dookie
it is not
It is worth on some classes
Not gonna lie, sometimes I miss WOTLK endless rage and spamming heroic strikes lol.
Just to be sure : The only ways to craft the 639 version of a weapon is to a) do mythic raids or b) do +9 keys in Mythic +, right ?
Remember emerald nightmare arms
You can't craft from +9
636 but yeah
these nerfs huh
went from top of my guild to...not top anymore
sucks to suck
what % is that?
You can get out of vault though
Last two bosses in heroic drop mythic crests too, but just doing that last week and this week isn't enough
they can also drop from delves sometimes
Like 19%
nah im at 24% and I only have 14,185
Oh yeh I am 29% then
Wait no I am tripping
The sun is not doing me well
Gotta go back inside and do m+
whats your verse at?
i'm
19% crit
24%haste
24%mastery
7%Verse
feeling like i need to pick up my verse a bit
thats alot of mastery 😮
is that a purposeful build or just what you have had drop?
What's everyone's go to m+ team?
Struggling to know what a decent comp is for a beginner to m+
whatever ill get invited to
5 warriors
Just had a grim batol +4 brick, I don't think I've ever seen a squishier tank than monk
Honestly a shit player can make any other tank specs work but when you find a shit monk tank boy you see it
Guys, why does my sim tell me to only socket Quick Onyx and not the variaty i see everyone have
Do you have the blasphemite in there
yes
Yo boys, a question about Mountain Thane. Do I always prio Bloodthirst/bloodbath over Raging blow/crushing blow? Seems like it would be more value to get more Thunder claps than spam Raging blow for lightning strikes?
just click these two buttons
hmm still doesnt do anything for me
You press the button to respecc to slayer
Mountain Thane is more fun, gonna push to 3k with it
Even if I am the only fury to do so
you ticked the two buttons, replace all gems and given it enough variety?
yes, just simmed with other trinket
and all the gems
we able to wear 2 610 pvp crafts?
yes?
Hello fellow warriors, do any of you tested this weapon ? Is it worth using it? the proc good enough to make up for the lack of main stat ?
for m+ I should use the damage proc or stat proc enchants ?
decent for ST
How does the raid trinkets work? Transmitter and Mandate when do you use them? pre pull or ?
hi warriors, im iin need of assistance. at ilvl 605, i just feel that my dps isnt where it should be. im not sure if iim messiing up rotation or just soomething. any help would be fantastic
this is where you sim
im not totally up to speed with how to use sim in this way, can u help?
Lmao
How do you pronounce your name
do you want danish or english
ågård
Ive had people call me aarhgard and orgord as well
A a ga ard
we are not at ay-ay-ron for Aaron levels yet
ay ay gard
aguard
Trying to work on my overall dmg in m+, I usually try to "be smart" with my CDs and use them for larger pulls, but I noticed my overall damage was half of what other people were doing. Started just blowing CDs pretty much whenever they were up. Is that really the move? lol
when I'm pugging, yeah
i have no idea how hard they will pull so if the pack seems good enough to blow my load on I'll just send it
hot
i also don't hold BS for reck/ava unless it's 9 seconds away but thats something I read in here
and I think it only applies for ST lol
teach me schmoffel
Unless you get an extra use
I'm syncing my 2 minutes to boss fights
but I use to hold CDs (Oden, roar, blade) until larger pulls
Now I'm just popping them when they're off CD (unless we're about to do a boss)
So why would the sim use it if the desync is more than 10s?
Because sim adjusts the fight time so it fits
Guide says no more than 10-15% of its CD
so isn't that 9-13 seconds?
@lost saffron thoughts on hosen
Yes
so isn't that what is being said? don't hold BS unless ava/reck come up within 9 seconds
Yeah sounds right to me
beauty
what guide are you looking at?
Idk bro use some critical thinking
Why would you not line your major cool downs if you don't lose a cast
That's literally what I said
If you lose cast, you don't delay
Wowhead
The reason why the guide says what is says
Is because around 9-13 seconds is the window where you lose a cast in single target sim
5 minutes, if you delay by 10 seconds you get 50 seconds total delay
Because bs cool down is roughly 45 seconds
Does this make sense?
it makes sense though, sry I just didn't quite get what you meant by lose a cast
my small brain never thought to think of the boss fight time
If your fight is shorter than 5 minutes the time you delay gets longer
If the fight is longer then the time becomes shorter
🙏
Up to a point that is, technically at some point losing a cast is less dmg loss than always lining it with cooldowns
So there is a "reset point"
If using bladestorm during avatar etc. Is 5% of the damage gain of an additional cast
Then that point would be at 20 casts
For example
also highly depends on what's happening in the fight; add phases, movement, etc
Yes
alright cool ty for the explanation
guys do we play Uproar in m+?
Hello, is Brutal Finish realy better than Culling Cyclone in M+ scénario ?
It's a lot of extra strength
What is brutal finish and what is culling cyclone
xD
those nod
there was a discussion about it yesterday, pretty sure the consensus was it sucked?
cyclone i mean
Brutal Finish is better because 50% more Rampage damage that applies to all targets evenly, compared to 20% split BS damage is more value
I usually I am an any pack is good enough unless I can see them about to pull more or there I know the is a 4+ or frequently ass pulled pack
My 619 proc is doing about 5-8% of my total damage.
As Banezi said, Brutal Finish is more multitarget while Culling is more ST
TBH I just run Culling on everything though, I already have enough multitarget blast as is
First glance reading them it kinda looked like the opposite. Ive also only ever used culling and only realized the other day how they really worked
Yeah, you would think that more Bladestorm damage = more AoE, but the talent is meant to give BS more ST value for those ST fights - still an odd match up though
Wooo, more fury nerfs in 11.0.5. Love it
So critcake is a padder for playing it
there are not
Are the BS and OF nerfs from recent patch builds?
yes, it's the same change
whats the recommended craft if you are equally focused on raid and m+?
weapon with ascension
get the embellishment for raid first
m+ endgame doesnt happen until later in the season anyway, better prepare for raid first
Is there a soft cap for fury warrior for haste and mastery? i wanna make a crafted weapon but in doubt on the stats to take THX
no
Hello guys potential stupid question but, I have a 610 Mh 2h weapon and an offhand 567. WIll It be better if I switch to arms until I get a better offhand? I come from classic where weapon damage is pretty much everything, I don't know if it's a huge deal here too. Thanks
Dude you can get a better 2h out of Heroics. Also look at world quests as they sometimes have weapons in loot. Pretty much anything that drops for you at this point should be better than that
Do you guys take frenzied or powerful enrage for MT fights in raid?
Hell a crafted weapon at 590 would make a big difference
But how much does offhand damage affect ability damage?
well it's your 2nd strongest item after mainhand
Haste mastery or sim is safe i guess
That's what I don't quite understand
Bro I want to craft a 610 pvp bracer to get my embellishment but i cant find someone to do it
Sim it if u want to know, easiest way
Will do
Offhand is used in much of the dps calc
Thanks
As for the original question, Arms is only going to be better if you are proficient at playing it.
probably a stupid question but do we only wanna send execute in our rotation when we get 3 stacks of marked for execution, not less?
pretty much
3 marks of execution or ashen juggernaut is about to fall off
Lol that's hard for me. I always want to click the shiny button.
ive been royally messing up then xD
Or you dont have any other shit to press
Single minded fury meta when
13.0 trust
anyone know where ican find a weakaura that reminds you to loot crests off boss? I saw it on some streams. can't find it on wago
do you actually need a reminder for that
do they not get mailed to you if you mess it up?
How do you forget to loot ?lol
If you need mods to remember to loot... I dunno what to say
they don't mail to u
nope
and failed auto-loot makes you forget them
like the auto-loot will loot half the loot
the auto loot bugs are hella annoying
How does the raid trinkets work? Transmitter and Mandate when do you use them? pre pull or ?
I realized very alte that I need to put my looot specialization to arms to only get 2h 😦

if you sim yourself you can see when
I dont have them
thats what i do
Im just wondering
oh then idk ahah
I ended up just crafting it for myself lol
recipe was only 7k and I'm already specced a bit into bracers
Why care about trinkets you dont have?
hey, is there any info about stats cap?
You do as the robot commands @plain magnet
@craggy river ah ok, but on raidbot I don't see after sim info about stats, only in game
Does it matter? If item is better u equip
Any warriors on A52 need their weapon crafted send it to me and ill make it for free or whatever u want i know them mats are like 100k total
ok, thanks
i just learned that recrafting takes in consideration the original mats used to craft
Yea
maybe I shouldn't have skimped out on my 619 craft lmao
I was wondering this the other day
oh well, just means I gotta use my conc for my 636 whenever the hell I get enough gilded
I am still craft-less but I don’t wanna craft a heroic piece 
I always crafted max ilvl instantly
I would do a 639 wep if I was you
i was gonna listen to what everyone in here said about waiting for 636 craft
then I tried pugging m+ and crafted my 619 immediately with the free runed crest
fuck that shit bro I ain't waiting now
Im on business trip next week so I can’t really farm gilded crests for 2 weeks now
Feelsbadman
you gotta do how many +9's to get enough for a gilded crest? nah lmao I ain't critcake
I did some 7s on release day and some bosses go crazy
Looking at NW 3rd boss
Ye
i feel like tww dungeons are mostly more enjoyable than the old poorly reworked dungeons
man fuck that boss lmao
Yo, If I enchant a chest piece with biggest enchant, does that enchant follow if I catalyst the chest for a tier piece?
gotta love people messing up the hook
ya
Tyvm ❤️
I feel like bosses are either basically free or extra hard with current tuning
i swear the stitchflesh adds do more group wide damage than they did when i last played beta
TWW dungeons just need tuning. Mechanics all mostly seem to work pretty well - I guess same can be said for outliers in mists/necrotic.
but siege and grim are just obnoxious and/or absurd as the key levels get high
should we be crafting the 2h this week?
i dislike siege a lot more than grim batol
That entire room is overturned
Including the boss
the adds before the boss didnt feel that rough for me
up to you
tried to do a 6 grim and got ripped a new one
I was in grim for 2 hours on back to back bricked keys lol
I only did a 5 grim but that one was very smooth sailing
mfers just couldn't do the final boss, even when I said stop killing adds right away they kept doing it
5 is kinda the breakpoint imo where after that shit starts to get real with the scaling and our current gear
so who has crafted their 636 wep this week
Will I regret crafting the 2h if I like M+ more than raid
So, my plan is to grind out two hammers from GB. This means not crafting a weapon. Instead, I think I should craft bracers and a cloak, right? Put the double effect on the bracers and the duskthread on the cloak. What do yall think?
hey guys how do i craft the weapon? 2 sparks and how do i get it 636? abit lost
Didnt get BS this expansion D:
u have to order, and for a 636, u need a Gilded crest
its over
u get it from 9+ mythic keystones and Mythic raiding
is it worth crafting if i can only get it with runed crests?\
Arms Master race rise up
yeah sure
you can recraft it later
you can upgrade that weapon by recrafting it with less mats required
Which one is more fun?
I honestly haven't ever played arms just simmed it
they definitely made arms worse to play coming to the expansion
its an m+ siege of boralus sim
baseline kit that is
Its pretty boring for me
Cleave is almost 30% damage
Before I send anything, Crafted Mainhand should give us offhand discount, correct?
I don't hate arms
your wrist would thank you
yes
anyone can share spear macro to spear onself?
i crafted 619 and immediately upped my OH to 619
Which two would you all run for M+? All are 609+
Oh fuck, bet
Sac and Shard
same both my trinkets are 593..
I think you just stick [@player] in the macro
like /cast [@player] champion's spear
I have gotten the gloves from Arakara 7 times now. End me
Fury warrior crafting question
In im not counting on getting a myth track weapon from raid nearest week my best shot Will be m+, but i need 2.
Is it more worth crafting 639 weap or 2x armor?
Shieet
lmao arms is just better now eh
Tier set is ass
