#fury

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tardy lark
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i plan to, but plan to craft wep before mythic if at all possible

bitter palm
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i like it as arms although i havent played with it

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makes u send ms a bit more xddd

serene vessel
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Tbh not sure why everyone likes having a good tier %wise

tardy lark
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more dam = fun

serene vessel
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Ya but just ask for better balancing then

bitter palm
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idk imo as long as it switches up the gameplay its fine

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which it doesnt for fury

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on top of being shit

tardy lark
serene vessel
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I'd rather my tier be interesting than big % increase

bitter palm
serene vessel
tardy lark
bitter palm
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what are jacob and atrocity playing

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ascendance right

tardy lark
eternal sundial
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Embell wise u mean?

serene vessel
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My point is people complain about our tier being bad when they should really complain about balancing

bitter palm
tardy lark
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isnt tier part of balancing

eternal sundial
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The balancing of our tier is bad

bitter palm
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im on phone cba checking

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ok atrocity is running ascendance

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makes sense

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idk ascendance hard to beat in raid

serene vessel
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The balancing of classes is bad not the tier

tardy lark
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at this point, tier IS your class

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with how accessible it is

weary ice
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He’s right though, you don’t want your class balanced around tier tbh

tardy lark
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theres a reason we dont put much effort into tierless APL or guides for tierless rotations

eternal sundial
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Id rather start weaker and actually get items

serene vessel
eternal sundial
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Than know im never going to see tier

serene vessel
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But the actual % increase tier gives you is irrelevant

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As long as it's an increase

tardy lark
eternal sundial
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Real Aagaard

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M+er talking

serene vessel
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Lmao

bitter palm
serene vessel
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CBA to commit time to raiding anymore

weary ice
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While we are talking about balancing… are enh sham just cracked rn

plucky ice
safe juniper
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Thoughts on swappin to powerful enrage after 30% haste ?

plucky ice
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whatever sim says

runic cypress
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Everybody here slaves to the robots smh the uprising for them is gonna be so easy

plucky ice
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yea their brain does math better surely

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computer bad

runic cypress
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"Should we Rebel against the machines and maybe not be slaves or die?"
"Sim it"

flat river
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xalatath's bargain is the first affix that warriors can do

plucky ice
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feel craft for the win, brothers

deep stone
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Gonna switch to an actual hard spec to play . Going ret garms

runic cypress
mighty torrent
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Hey guys just got treacherous transmitter and put the WA, my question is do you do the task before bursting, or just send everything together and do the task during your burst ?

runic violet
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Has anyone encounted "one or more dungeons was not valid."

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I can't create a grp

plucky ice
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1s before pull I think would be optimal no idea in combat lmao

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kinda like azshara trinket

tardy lark
mighty torrent
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I mean sometimes u just have to jump 3 times

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ez task

cedar depot
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still salty about the added 3% for no reason

tardy lark
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so why would you not just jump 3 times and press your buttons

errant vessel
tardy lark
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fury burst is so frontloaded

oblique trail
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Just use Transmitter pre-pull and prepare to finish it when the pull starts

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So you don't even have to think about it

clever path
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Hey guys, do we start using our sparks yet or are we still holding?

oblique trail
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This way you also have the cadence mid fight where it's ready before CDs and you then finish it as your CDs are ready. If you have to hold CDs due to downtime on some fights, you just do the same where you finish it before CDs and you're gucci

oblique trail
clever path
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Ok perfect so I should just follow the wowhead guide for what to craft / what gear to farm?

hollow narwhal
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hello, can someone explain me what to prio in m+? the rotation i mean

thick ether
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where can i see how many sparks i have

jovial cloak
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Zug zug i guess It is

turbid timber
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anyone got the unsheathing the sword release spirit meme? cant find it

summer saddle
balmy socket
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anyone know where i can uptrade my crests from the lower to the higher one?

runic cypress
thick ether
runic cypress
turbid timber
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ty

balmy socket
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ty

summer saddle
floral silo
thick ether
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damn so if i didn’t get it i missed out ?

summer saddle
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pretty sure there's catch up

balmy socket
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oh u cant exchange when ur maxed out unlucky

thick ether
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After i get the sparks what’s the max ilvl i can craft of wpn?

tardy lark
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goes up to 636 with mythic crests though

thick ether
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the person crafting needs to have the crests not me?

tardy lark
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nah, its something you have to provide

thick ether
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oh okay

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ty

runic cypress
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But you can make your enchanter friends happy by making some crest they need the skill points

steady timber
shrewd drum
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did we get further nerfs in 11.0.5 or is it just the merges from live?

gusty lark
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on charged claymore should i put haste mastery ? or haste versa ?

hazy orbit
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Hey guys. Trying to help a fury guildmate here
If I understand correctly you spam crushing blow over Rampage even if you are rage capped ? As long as you have crushing blow stacks

shrewd drum
oblique trail
arctic zephyr
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hey y'all, new player to wow. Been doing some dungeons on my level 23 fury warrior and been lowest damage every time. Should I just not worry about that until I level up a bit more and get more skills?

hazy orbit
jolly mist
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@arctic zephyr incase you didnt know start running timewalking dungeons im pretty sure they give more xp

oblique trail
arctic zephyr
junior gale
arctic zephyr
teal pine
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Crushing blow just does more damage than rampage while also making rampage do more damage itself. You dont want to overcap rage for many other reasons, crushing blow is just an insane button

tardy lark
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Even raging blow is an insane button because of the amount of synergies it has

hazy orbit
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My buddy is playing by instinct I think, generating rage and spending it on Rampage and that the end of his thinking process.
Do you guys know important point I should check in logs to help him out. He is not a bad player by any means but he wants to try and be a really good fury player

tardy lark
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CB and BB casts i guess

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OF casts are easy to delay as well resulting in lost casts

vague fern
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is fury better or worse in higher keys than arms?

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i know they are better at ST

tardy lark
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what is your definition of high keys

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cause 12 was roough on beta

hazy orbit
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@teal pine said that you dont want to overcap rage. In top logs i see a lot of wasted rage, in favor of more CB cast. Any reasoning behind that ?

junior gale
# arctic zephyr Ha, just didn't wanna be a burden to people.

But yeah as stated before don't worry about your dmg while lvling. The game is weird during that period just focus on lvling up and learning the game. In the DPS FAQ channel you will find links to guides that will help you learn to do big damage at Max level.

tardy lark
vague fern
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'higher' being 8+ i guess. im not pushing a super amount for acouple weeks as work. just wanna know what the better spec will be going beyond 10

tardy lark
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simple rotation is just ramp - cb - bb - execute/filler - rampage - repeat

teal pine
tardy lark
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optimally theres a lot more nuance to it, but you'll get pretty far just going DF S3 rotation

teal pine
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with cds you'll overcap like crazy but outside of them you shouldnt

jolly mist
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there should be an option for timewalking there

tardy lark
jolly mist
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unless youre levels too low then youll have to go to 70 before u can do timewalking dungeons

thick ether
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Any advice? im thinking of taking the set piece and and catalyst another one for 2/4 set

thick ether
restive narwhal
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How far can i upgrade the normal Weapon from first Boss ? Was it 619 ?

noble yew
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hi! been using shard for so long. i got queens mandate yesterday from timewalking quest. it sims significantly lower than shard but all bis lists ive read says this is a good option close to bis (transmitter is bis). any advice?

tribal flint
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I don’t really care about anything other than getting crushing blow off over rampage and my single target went up. Just prioritize CB and not worry about much else like over capping rage

weary ice
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Those are bis boots though yeah? Mastery haste?

thick ether
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Yea i have the normal version of them

weary ice
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Did you do raid for this week yet?

thick ether
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on normal so far, heroic later this week too

weary ice
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I’d wait on your heroic raid drops

fading sky
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my 2 cents make the transmitters be jumping and picking up the ball only

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not the ciorlce u must stand in

weary ice
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I’m very concerned about your xmog tbh @thick ether

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Particularly the pants

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But really the entire thing is problematic

thick ether
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hes a golden boy

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ignore the wrists i didnt mog them out

thick ether
broken kindle
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Damn they're trying to keep fury downdeadge deadge

weary ice
thick ether
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nope ill try

weary ice
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Either way you can get m+ trinkets

broken kindle
weary ice
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More?

teal pine
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Its the ones we just got. There arent more coming

heavy dock
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Tho should sim it

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603 tier is pretty low imo

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The delve one i mean

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It simmer high for me

inner harbor
heavy dock
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Tho i also didnt get lucky to gdt an on use mast trinket from m0..

weary ice
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I have it at 606 and it loses to sacbrood in ST but beats it in cleave

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He’s sitting at 0 tier though, I’d still probly do shoulders

fickle raven
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How is fury feeling after nerfs? Still viable?

shadow flame
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feels good in raid, but in m+ I would rather tank personally

oblique trail
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You wont notice the nerfs

mild elbow
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where do I get this embellishment?

sleek badge
mild elbow
oblique trail
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Just search ascendance

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Then it's the darkmoon sigil

mild elbow
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ty

gilded pawn
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Is it actually giving 300k secondaries

oblique trail
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Yes the tooltip is very accurate

gilded pawn
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I think I’ll beat revvez

gilded pawn
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If I can get 300k secondary

oblique trail
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Wallife beat Revves on some bosses last night iirc

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Simply a machine

gilded pawn
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I can beat revvez if he’s in df s1 gear

somber gale
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are rets just overtuned in m+ atm

gilded pawn
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And I’m in tww s1 gear

shadow flame
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rets are definitely strong in m+

hollow orchid
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Hey rotation question, do you just pop Bladestorm when it goes off CD or do you wait and line it up with CDs again?

mild elbow
oblique trail
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Check your filters/reopen the AH

dusty flicker
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try like this: Darkmoon Sigil: Ascension

mild elbow
oblique trail
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oh right

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It's ascension

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forgor

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I typically just type ascen and it shows up

proud vessel
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can u still use old drums in m+?

molten wing
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yeah

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DF drums work

proud vessel
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lol

mild elbow
south kayak
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I need to get GM or SV trinket lol

mild elbow
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so should I enchant my weapon with Stormrider's Fury or Darkmoon Sigil: Ascension? which is better dps

fickle bluff
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one of those is an enchant the other is not

mild elbow
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oh then I can use both?

south kayak
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No

mild elbow
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im new to crafting

south kayak
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im confused

fickle bluff
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stormriders fury is an enchant

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ascension is an embellishment

clever path
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is that another nerf

molten wing
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nope

hardy cargo
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Embellishments like ascension need to be put on while crafting, enchants like stormriders you just right click in your bags and apply it to the weapon/gear

sudden tusk
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no thats the recent changes just being shown

oblique trail
fickle bluff
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so real banzaie

oblique trail
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When I skillfully press CDs into BS

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can't wait

mild elbow
oblique trail
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Correct

mild elbow
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dope

hardy cargo
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Once you have it in bags you can put enchant on it yea

fickle bluff
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"giving guildmates the mats" doesnt exist

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you have to work order it

south kayak
oblique trail
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Technically you give them the mats by providing them in the work order 🐀

mild elbow
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ment like random vs guildmate doing the order

oblique trail
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Or be a rat like me and make them provide the mats

tardy lark
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hate banzi

oblique trail
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Why hate

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I am such a helpful part of the guild

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I've crafted so many cloth pieces and crests

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Given away my concentration selflessly (jk I'm good enough to not need it)

gusty lark
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how much mastery should we have ?

fickle bluff
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yeah

tardy lark
oblique trail
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I know right

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Truly doing my part

warm crag
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@oblique trail

molten wing
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i'm only saving concentration for my eventual craft of the mythic weapon

hard widget
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Brother pinging me at 6 am kekw

mild elbow
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think anyone would do this? or should I farm the sanctified alloys?

proud vessel
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how can u farm them?

mild elbow
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I have a blacksmithing char

craggy river
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if u dont pay for the alloys the crafter would provide, no one would do it

clever path
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Not unless youre giving a 50k tip

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Lmao

elder vessel
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depths of radiant enchant for mythic plus

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no raid

restive narwhal
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How far is the Weapon of first Boss upgradable on normal ?

runic cypress
mild elbow
runic cypress
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Yeah and you expected a blacksmith to go broke instead?

thick fossil
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I might get stuck in Prot jail all season, waiting to craft anything.

mild elbow
restive narwhal
# thick fossil

Thx Mate. So then i wont craft a Weapon and can craft 2 other 619 Items instead.

lime tundra
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What's the build now that we know the fight?

runic cypress
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If you don't provide materials you compensate with gold

mild elbow
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ohhh

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I getchu

plucky ice
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I like how some ppl put orders with zero mats and no gold to crafter

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lmao

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what do they expect

fallen tiger
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Befouler's Syringe, Is it worth it?

thick fossil
mild elbow
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if I put this up, would I need to add more gold to get it max crafted or?

plucky ice
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don't use public order

thick fossil
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Depends on how greedy the crafter is.

plucky ice
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find a crafter

mild elbow
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all my guild peeps are offline

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where would I find a crafter at this time

summer carbon
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trade chat

plucky ice
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trade chat

mild elbow
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ok. so the spark and crest is soulbound, so how would that work? sorry I'm just coming back to the game

runic cypress
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Look for a big hammer on your map

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The crafter will want some money for their Concentration as I'm sure you can't max level these things without it

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Just negotiate with him

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Usually sending him his IP address and location helps Greatly with reducing the price

teal pine
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you can craft without concentration

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wait

runic cypress
oblique trail
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Depends on the item, but if you've max invested into a particular item type (and perhaps use extra skill consumables) you wont need conc

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On my tailor I can make 619/636 gloves/boots with no conc

teal pine
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yea you can do it without conc for sure

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if you're maxed out

oblique trail
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Having tools also helps for sure

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My tailor only has 1 blue tool iirc

runic cypress
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My blacksmith is "fully" specced into professional tools and I can't even reach rank 4 without consc

oblique trail
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With full R3 mats too?

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Or just R1

runic cypress
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I figured it's the same for other specs

teal pine
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always need r3 mats

native saffron
mild elbow
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im 603+ in every slot but my weapons are both 593 and its holding me back a lot

runic cypress
mild elbow
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rng sucks

runic cypress
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I'll check later

oblique trail
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And 606 to 636 is only 20 more

plucky ice
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mats matter a lot

runic cypress
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But the difference from r1 to r2 mats is so small I doubt it will help

teal pine
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blue tools is also pretty big. should get craftsim to see exactly what you need

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r3 mats are gigantic

native saffron
tardy lark
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r3 mats provide 40 skill imp retty sure

runic cypress
tardy lark
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craftsim ui is actually atrocious

teal pine
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yea

oblique trail
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Yeah it's awful to read

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But at least it works

runic cypress
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Great I'll download that today

south kayak
oblique trail
tardy lark
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vanilla addons looked better

south kayak
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lmao

runic cypress
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I fucking hate how they give us info on your skill and what skill you need but don't tell how much skill materials ad as base

limpid perch
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guys have you crafted the weapon or wait for 636 ilv craft?

oblique trail
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Like my tailor is fully specced into gloves/boots, and the 2 nodes before that for general skill increase

runic cypress
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Whoever designed this needs to be fired

lilac trail
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hey guys quick question : do the wowhead pages take into account the most recent nerfs ?

tardy lark
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in what context

lilac trail
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mythic +

oblique trail
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What kind of changes would they make

lilac trail
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idk, since bladestorm is nerfed, maybe it can be rebalanced somehow

oblique trail
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The nerfs wouldn't make any super tangible difference

plucky ice
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back to ravager critcake

lilac trail
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like maybe reckless abandon would be preferable over anger management ?

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since spamming bladestorm is doing less damage

lilac trail
steep haven
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Thane Ravager it in boiiiiiis

south kayak
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no one can stop me from playing thane in m+

clever path
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And no one will

south kayak
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lmao

plucky ice
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thane ravager SMF

fickle bluff
teal pine
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@runic cypress im also specced into profession tools on my dk and this is the difference between mats. T2 is missing 92 skill and T3 just hits it

south kayak
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has anyone been playing thane in m+

native saffron
dense elbow
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I gave it a few spins, what about it?

runic cypress
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Hold on let me check

south kayak
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how was it

south kayak
lilac trail
supple fractal
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Morning cuties. Is the Sacbrood still one of our bis despite trinket nerfs?

dense elbow
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I felt my prio dam was too low for Tyra, so I swapped back. Overall was a bit lower, but too small sample size to say for sure

oblique trail
supple fractal
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thanks for the information

jovial coral
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3% thats basically the set bonus!!!

signal gyro
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we make up the 3% by just outgearing everyone else in the raid, it's simple

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just get more gear

jovial coral
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Nah

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Dont feel like it

dense elbow
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In raid we more than fine, fights basically made for us

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No way to do badly

jovial coral
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Yeah Erga made all the raid encounters

south kayak
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I wonder if I'll ever use a transmog for more than one fucking hour

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why is it so hard to find something good

main cape
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@hard widget can you send me your execute WA?

dreamy frost
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how much haste is enough (my haste is by 23%)

teal pine
oblique trail
dreamy frost
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ok

runic cypress
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im missing like 115 skill with r2 mats and green tools

runic cypress
teal pine
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i did a lot of profession swapping on my other profession slot

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to get more acuity

oblique trail
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Acuity shuffle was pretty broken

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But gg if you already leveled 2 professions

proud vessel
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i thought we could dward the volatile acid off in mists?

runic cypress
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fucking green tools

sly willow
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am I a complete idiot if I craft a weapon with no embellishment? I dont raid so I dont really want ascencion

oblique trail
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Not necessarily

teal pine
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yea all blue tools gives 22 extra skill which you need for most things

oblique trail
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Weapon craft on its own with no embellishment is an easy way to get a high ilvl weapon

limpid perch
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did you guys craft the sword? which ilvl?

oblique trail
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I crafted an axe because it's cheaper, no difference between them other than mats

limpid perch
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i was wondering about getting it fast but its expensive

limpid perch
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i don't want to spend that much rn and then re-craft for 636

teal pine
warm crag
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dont craft at all then until you can craft the 636

oblique trail
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Then craft it when you can insta send 636

limpid perch
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how much is the recraft?

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if some1 have it

oblique trail
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For axe it was 4 sanctified alloy and 1 ironclaw alloy

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Idk about the rest

runic cypress
limpid perch
runic cypress
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im hoping to get those from guildies having tools crafted

limpid perch
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mmm

oblique trail
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It's 50% of the BS mats

limpid perch
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is it a huge upgrade for raid?

warm crag
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a mythic weapon is, anything below that is not worth crafting anymore

oblique trail
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A high ilvl weapon is a huge upgrade for all content

teal pine
oblique trail
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But as Spongie said, personally wouldn't bother crafting unless you have a lot of gold until you can insta send 636

runic cypress
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its already green ughhh

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i dont want to spend more accutiy

teal pine
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yea its awful

warm crag
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i should go get some acuity i literally have like 10

oblique trail
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NOOB

limpid perch
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okay tnx, i'll rush m+ till 10+

oblique trail
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Explode

warm crag
limpid perch
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for 636 craft

oblique trail
warm crag
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i will do to you what max did to boose yesterday

oblique trail
limpid perch
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ah cool

dense elbow
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Only Hydrate

oblique trail
warm crag
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:(

limpid perch
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i'm not sure on how much it will be hard

oblique trail
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:(

limpid perch
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last time playing was rushing 22 23 in shadowlands

oblique trail
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Depends a lot on the dungeon

limpid perch
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skipped dragonflights

oblique trail
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Mists is pretty "free"

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Relative to some of the other dungeons

warm crag
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pushing until 9s is free

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most 9s are okay

limpid perch
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nice

south kayak
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Kinda wanna tank but have no good 1h or shield lol

dense elbow
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I am just done doing threads, stonevault and necrotic wake over and over

restive pewter
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Anyone else just getting bent in grim batol

summer quail
restive pewter
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2 groups just boomed at end boss

dense elbow
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Batol? Not in particular

restive pewter
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in looooooow keys

pure echo
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I'm confused, why is alchemical chaos suggested flask when you could get a flask with straight mastery and not reducing other stats at almost the same stat point when you subtract the stats from alchemical chaos?

warm crag
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grim batol difficulty curve add wise is a vertical spike at the end ye

south kayak
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what's the name of the food for primary stat

wind torrent
kindred topaz
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Hello everyone! I have a question.. i saw a warcraftlog where a fury warrior got his second bladestorm after 18 seconds (he used one on pull and then the second in 18 secs). Does any ability other than execute reduce bladestorm cooldown??

restive pewter
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483 is crazy

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You must be the goat

wind torrent
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Granted I had a 613 weap

south kayak
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gonna start a key as thane

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wish luck

warm crag
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we can refect it but u cant run a 5 warrior group

oblique trail
kindred topaz
# warm crag link?

he got 1,8mil dps on ovi'nax with it but... i find it hard to replicate a 18 sec bladestorm cd

south kayak
south kayak
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but if they die they get debuff

oblique trail
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Long story short, more stats than individual, tempered potion pops all 4 stats instead of only 3, can use all stats as Fury/Arms

south kayak
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and corrupt shits on you

south kayak
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hacking

kindred topaz
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bruh

restive pewter
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I can never tell if it’s worth holding on pull like that for broodtwister

oblique trail
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Just send

south kayak
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i never hold

oblique trail
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Adds spawn so late

dense elbow
kindred topaz
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sniping that AoE is important.. we have 2 furys in our raid. i need to beat him Lol

eager thorn
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If you use cds asap on pull for ovinax then OF and BS have like 8s on cd when adds spawn

warm crag
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you have the average amount of fury warriors in your raid doesnt seem too bad

eager thorn
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And theyll prob live for full duration of both

restive pewter
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I’m the only fury in my guild but we’re normal andies

pure echo
restive pewter
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Sadge

kindred topaz
tawdry meteor
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in m+ content do we send sudden death proccs on cd or wait for 3 marks of execution?

dense elbow
eager thorn
#

I also found dropping a point of armour > strength for uproar to be alright if ur guild needs more add dmg

restive pewter
#

clueless

dense elbow
#

We believe in you, ya got this

#

If not this week, then next

restive pewter
#

Haha appreciated brother

restive pewter
#

I wish high parses for you too

#

🫡

summer carbon
#

getting rekt-ed by dks and enhas in keys and they wanna nerf us

kindred topaz
#

Fr.. mythic raiding dks pulling 5 mil dps on ovinax, but fury gets nerfed

wind torrent
#

There probably won’t be any tuning passes until RWF is over

restive pewter
#

so is broodtwister down then?

#

or they still progging it

fiery hare
#

Blizz is like,oh fury has crazy high numbers for 15 sec,but dks are fine

crisp tundra
kindred topaz
kindred topaz
restive pewter
#

Heard you

dense elbow
restive pewter
#

I got an 8 mist

hard widget
restive pewter
#

If you’re na

main cape
#

Thanks

#

@hard widget

hard widget
#

No problem

hard widget
#

If u dont have AJ talented, execute value drops quite a bit

twin flame
restive pewter
#

Stilgar my goat

sleek badge
fading sky
#

How can blizzard think that caustic spatter from assasination is balanced ?:D

runic cypress
north dragon
#

Hi lads, what’s your average dps on mythic 7>?

hard widget
#

And also updated some stuff on it

sleek badge
#

I'll check that ASAP

hard widget
#

It were just some minor bugs that got pointed out to me that i fixed

sleek badge
#

It's for arms but should work the same i guess

wooden kite
#

Is 2pc worth it

sleek badge
oblique trail
#

2 and 4p is, it just isn't a high priority

hard widget
fading sky
south kayak
#

ok did one key with thane, you could feel st a bit

fading sky
#

tbf thane needs a ST buff

#

dno how u can do that though

thick fossil
eager thorn
#

The slands dungeons are fun

#

Outside of me not knowing where to go in mists maze

hard widget
#

Now u’ll know where to go ^^

formal stump
#

Anyone know a guide I can use for Fury macros?

eager thorn
forest berry
#

hello guys wich item of our set are we not taking this season ? thank you

hard widget
formal stump
hard widget
eager thorn
#

Do you rlly need to stance dance ever

#

Idt ive left zerk spec in my time playing retail

hard widget
#

I use it pretty often

forest berry
#

it has to be gloves no @eager thorn or i'm totally wrong ?

eager thorn
#

You catalyst gloves instead of helm tier

formal stump
#

Everything has changed since my Cata days. So all my old macros are useless. Im still trying to relearn the game again

eager thorn
#

Just look at bis lists for gear

forest berry
#

ohhhh i see

main cape
#

If Crushing blow and Bloodbath are off CD, I'm full rage and already enraged... do I Rampage or do I eat the rage and CB -> BB -> Rampage?

hard widget
hard widget
formal stump
#

Stance dance macro something I can just google?

last charm
#

How you all feeling with the nerfs to fury anyone doing higher keys on fury ?

oblique trail
hard widget
#

Surely someone here can link the macro

last charm
#

Not had chance to play yet with work to test myself

foggy schooner
#

#showtooltip
/cast [stance:2]!Defensive Stance;[known:386164]!Battle Stance;[known:386196]!Berserker Stance

oblique trail
#

Fury is still good

eager thorn
#

If we get nerfed hard enough i just turn off details

last charm
#

Great glad to hear, I wasn’t sure if we would have to swap to mountain build with the nerfs on slayer

bitter dagger
#

I’m not sure what I’m doing wrong the other warrior in my guild has a similar I lvl to me and yet he is doing 200k more dps

main cape
#

I cant decide what to craft, any more definitive updates since the updates?

eager thorn
#

See what hes casting vs what ur casting

#

And also sim cos ilvl doesnt just mean good dmg

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If ur in full int gear but ilvl 620 ur still gonna do fk all

oblique trail
#

There's a thing such as too much of a hyperbole

lost saffron
bitter dagger
#

I tried looking at logs but I don’t understand what I’m looking at

eager thorn
#

Open the casts part and look at what he is casting

#

You can also look at the rotation for fury and compare it to your logs, check to see if you’re actually following it

hard widget
lost saffron
#

Tbh I would argue the prio he uses is a bit easier for beginners

hard widget
#

Probably ye

lost saffron
#

Because its fairly straight forward

formal stump
#

Im ilvl 530 lvl78 and atm my average is 150-200k single target. Not sure if thats good or not

tardy lark
hard widget
eager thorn
#

Id imagine most ppl dont know what dps is good pre 80

oak pecan
#

is anger management better than reckless for m+?

lost saffron
hard widget
#

If u want to know if u do “good dps” just sim and look how close u are to that number

#

The closer u are the better ur playing

oblique trail
lost saffron
#

And, on cleave bb and cb even swap around

#

In the prio

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Revvez prios bloodbath over cb on 2+ targets

formal stump
#

Whats considered good dps at lvl80?

#

400+?

lost saffron
hard widget
last charm
oblique trail
#

Exe above all

last charm
#

When I simmed prior nerf I was simming around 1.2mil aoe & 900k ST

tardy lark
#

Revvez apparently simplified APL a lot for a minor loss friday during hc week

formal stump
#

Dps numbers was a big factor back in cata.
Im still getting used to all the new rules.
But idealy is there an average number Mythic raiders want to see?

fading bane
lost saffron
#

Yeh

tardy lark
lost saffron
#

It's very simple, it might be a slight loss over optimal play

tardy lark
lost saffron
#

But ngl optimal play with opportunist etc.

#

Is very cringe

heavy folio
#

why is that so many times when I use 2nd oil it goes on the main weapon again instead of offhand

tardy lark
lost saffron
#

Before applying

tardy lark
#

Fury ST is all cringe

lost saffron
#

And I doubt there is people who can consistently make it do more than

#

Zug zug revvez

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Cb bloodbath execute

tardy lark
#

Showed it to Walli who instantly went "no way im tracking that for a 4k gain" lol

lost saffron
#

It's not even about tracking

fading sky
#

isnt it just as many cbs + RBS are possible springle in with a BB ?=

lost saffron
#

It's about making the right decision then as well

fading sky
#

in aoe build

lost saffron
#

While tracking everything

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While also playing the fights

#

On a dummy anyone can do it easily

fading sky
#

the real question is, whats the punishment for sub optimal play

half kettle
#

curious about this line in the rotation guide. is the part about opporunist because we want to save it to use with a crushing blow insteadof using it on the raging blow?

fading sky
#

like do we loose A LOT by a mistake

teal pine
#

If you have brainpower to think about opportunist then its cool to optimize it but if you dont then theres really no need to stress about it

fading sky
#

at 100 u wanna press rampage is all ?

lost saffron
#

That is the idea

#

Yeh

half kettle
#

cool thanks

formal stump
#

Raiding rules are different. Cata was all GS and dps. Heroics all dps needed to be at minimal 50k dps to even be considered if I remember correctly.

lost saffron
#

I mean technically the apl is also not 100% optimal because I'm sure there is cases where you would use bloodthirst above 100 rage

royal crater
#

sooo happpyy 🙂

half kettle
#

yeah i just wanted to make sure that was the reason forpotentially wanting to hold onto it until casting rampage again to empower it. im sure i wont always have the brainpower to do that lol

teal pine
lost saffron
#

So don't do it unless you know you can

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For example if you cb and then don't get a reset and you are stuck without cbs

#

Just go zug zug

formal stump
#

Hows single minded fury looking these days?

lost saffron
#

Worse than th

hard widget
lost saffron
#

Tg*

lost saffron
#

For cosmetic effect

fickle bluff
#

come on now its only 1

lost saffron
#

Okay sorry

deep stone
eager thorn
half kettle
#

correct?

fickle bluff
#

execute yes

#

bt no

half kettle
#

hmm ok]

#

so BT is basically just dead last prio asside from like, slam fillers?

fickle bluff
#

yes

lost saffron
#

Rampage does not cost 100 rage

#

Or am I tripping

#

Isn't it 85

fickle bluff
#

its 80

lost saffron
#

I just look at weakaura

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xD

fickle bluff
#

doesnt matter

lost saffron
#

Doesn't matter

#

They are the same

lusty crow
#

What missives should I use for my charged claymore?

lost saffron
#

Either haste mastery

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Or mastery versa in most cases

sterile stratus
#

Can sim it

fading sky
#

the amount of haste items has are insane ;:D

formal stump
# eager thorn 5% dps worse

Yeah its always been lower then TG.
Just wondering if someone worked out the kinks to make it viable.
When it first launched lotta people said stacking haste would be the best way to go with it. I never gave it a chancs, always loved my 2h weapons.

lost saffron
#

I'm running good old 1% versa and 20k haste

fading sky
#

16k haste atm

clever belfry
lost saffron
#

I will probably change my missives

#

When I get all the gear

main cape
#

Are we rocking the claymore for M+ and raid now?

lost saffron
#

And upgrade everything

#

Technically claymore is better for m+

#

If you are infight all the time

#

xDdd

main cape
#

Ascension just sounds more powerful than a little bit of verse buff lol

#

idk what to do tho im conflicted

lost saffron
#

I wonder if it's worth using a stamina socket for the crit damage

stable frost
#

But my crit is dookie

fickle bluff
#

it is not

lost saffron
#

It is worth on some classes

formal stump
#

Not gonna lie, sometimes I miss WOTLK endless rage and spamming heroic strikes lol.

chrome canyon
#

Just to be sure : The only ways to craft the 639 version of a weapon is to a) do mythic raids or b) do +9 keys in Mythic +, right ?

lost saffron
#

Remember emerald nightmare arms

fickle bluff
#

636 but yeah

odd star
#

these nerfs huh
went from top of my guild to...not top anymore
sucks to suck

lusty crow
lost saffron
#

You can get out of vault though

stable frost
#

Last two bosses in heroic drop mythic crests too, but just doing that last week and this week isn't enough

fickle bluff
#

they can also drop from delves sometimes

lost saffron
#

Like 19%

lusty crow
#

nah im at 24% and I only have 14,185

lost saffron
#

Oh yeh I am 29% then

#

Wait no I am tripping

#

The sun is not doing me well

#

Gotta go back inside and do m+

lusty crow
#

whats your verse at?

#

i'm
19% crit
24%haste
24%mastery
7%Verse

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feeling like i need to pick up my verse a bit

quartz tulip
lusty crow
#

thats alot of mastery 😮

quartz tulip
lusty crow
#

is that a purposeful build or just what you have had drop?

whole wigeon
#

What's everyone's go to m+ team?

#

Struggling to know what a decent comp is for a beginner to m+

eager thorn
#

whatever ill get invited to

whole wigeon
#

Hahahha

#

If you had to pick though

lost saffron
#

5 warriors

whole wigeon
#

Just had a grim batol +4 brick, I don't think I've ever seen a squishier tank than monk

lost saffron
#

Monk is op

#

Just doesn't die

whole wigeon
#

Honestly a shit player can make any other tank specs work but when you find a shit monk tank boy you see it

torn sentinel
#

Guys, why does my sim tell me to only socket Quick Onyx and not the variaty i see everyone have

lost saffron
#

Do you have the blasphemite in there

torn sentinel
#

yes

vernal laurel
#

Yo boys, a question about Mountain Thane. Do I always prio Bloodthirst/bloodbath over Raging blow/crushing blow? Seems like it would be more value to get more Thunder claps than spam Raging blow for lightning strikes?

torn sentinel
#

hmm still doesnt do anything for me

lost saffron
vernal laurel
#

Even if I am the only fury to do so

warm crag
torn sentinel
#

and all the gems

finite spruce
#

we able to wear 2 610 pvp crafts?

fading sky
#

yes?

native crown
#

Hello fellow warriors, do any of you tested this weapon ? Is it worth using it? the proc good enough to make up for the lack of main stat ?

golden badge
#

for m+ I should use the damage proc or stat proc enchants ?

iron portal
#

Beer

#

I hate solo shuffle now

#

But it is done

gusty compass
#

How does the raid trinkets work? Transmitter and Mandate when do you use them? pre pull or ?

steel lion
#

hi warriors, im iin need of assistance. at ilvl 605, i just feel that my dps isnt where it should be. im not sure if iim messiing up rotation or just soomething. any help would be fantastic

steel lion
lost saffron
tardy lark
summer quail
tardy lark
#

Ive had people call me aarhgard and orgord as well

lost saffron
#

A a ga ard

tardy lark
#

we are not at ay-ay-ron for Aaron levels yet

fickle bluff
#

ay ay gard

sick jungle
#

aguard

queen linden
#

Trying to work on my overall dmg in m+, I usually try to "be smart" with my CDs and use them for larger pulls, but I noticed my overall damage was half of what other people were doing. Started just blowing CDs pretty much whenever they were up. Is that really the move? lol

sick jungle
#

when I'm pugging, yeah

#

i have no idea how hard they will pull so if the pack seems good enough to blow my load on I'll just send it

night relic
#

hot

sick jungle
#

i also don't hold BS for reck/ava unless it's 9 seconds away but thats something I read in here

#

and I think it only applies for ST lol

lost saffron
#

Yeah no

#

You wanna sync on most st boss fights

sick jungle
#

teach me schmoffel

lost saffron
#

Unless you get an extra use

sick jungle
#

thats not what jeventes said

#

just going off what he said in here about sims

queen linden
#

I'm syncing my 2 minutes to boss fights

#

but I use to hold CDs (Oden, roar, blade) until larger pulls

#

Now I'm just popping them when they're off CD (unless we're about to do a boss)

spare steppe
lost saffron
#

Because sim adjusts the fight time so it fits

sick jungle
#

so how long am I holding BS for?

#

even if it desyncs by 20-30s?

quick inlet
#

Guide says no more than 10-15% of its CD

sick jungle
#

so isn't that 9-13 seconds?

clever belfry
#

@lost saffron thoughts on hosen

quick inlet
sick jungle
#

so isn't that what is being said? don't hold BS unless ava/reck come up within 9 seconds

quick inlet
#

Yeah sounds right to me

sick jungle
#

beauty

gusty cloak
lost saffron
#

Idk bro use some critical thinking

#

Why would you not line your major cool downs if you don't lose a cast

#

That's literally what I said

#

If you lose cast, you don't delay

quick inlet
lost saffron
#

The reason why the guide says what is says

#

Is because around 9-13 seconds is the window where you lose a cast in single target sim

#

5 minutes, if you delay by 10 seconds you get 50 seconds total delay

#

Because bs cool down is roughly 45 seconds

#

Does this make sense?

sick jungle
#

yeah that makes more sense now

#

ty

lost saffron
#

Ofc this is simplified for explanation

#

But that's roughly how it works

sick jungle
#

it makes sense though, sry I just didn't quite get what you meant by lose a cast

#

my small brain never thought to think of the boss fight time

lost saffron
#

If your fight is shorter than 5 minutes the time you delay gets longer

#

If the fight is longer then the time becomes shorter

sick jungle
#

🙏

lost saffron
#

Up to a point that is, technically at some point losing a cast is less dmg loss than always lining it with cooldowns

#

So there is a "reset point"

#

If using bladestorm during avatar etc. Is 5% of the damage gain of an additional cast

#

Then that point would be at 20 casts

#

For example

edgy widget
#

also highly depends on what's happening in the fight; add phases, movement, etc

lost saffron
#

Yes

sick jungle
#

alright cool ty for the explanation

zealous stone
#

guys do we play Uproar in m+?

lost saffron
#

No

#

Attt is just too strong

dawn moon
#

Hello, is Brutal Finish realy better than Culling Cyclone in M+ scénario ?

lost saffron
#

It's a lot of extra strength

#

What is brutal finish and what is culling cyclone

#

xD

dawn moon
#

those nod

last sparrow
#

there was a discussion about it yesterday, pretty sure the consensus was it sucked?

#

cyclone i mean

oblique trail
#

Brutal Finish is better because 50% more Rampage damage that applies to all targets evenly, compared to 20% split BS damage is more value

near cargo
pastel needle
edgy widget
#

TBH I just run Culling on everything though, I already have enough multitarget blast as is

teal pine
#

First glance reading them it kinda looked like the opposite. Ive also only ever used culling and only realized the other day how they really worked

edgy widget
#

Yeah, you would think that more Bladestorm damage = more AoE, but the talent is meant to give BS more ST value for those ST fights - still an odd match up though

queen linden
#

Wooo, more fury nerfs in 11.0.5. Love it

lost saffron
#

So critcake is a padder for playing it

edgy widget
queen linden
#

Are the BS and OF nerfs from recent patch builds?

edgy widget
#

yes, it's the same change

fiery tide
#

whats the recommended craft if you are equally focused on raid and m+?

modest condor
#

weapon with ascension

#

get the embellishment for raid first

#

m+ endgame doesnt happen until later in the season anyway, better prepare for raid first

azure saffron
#

Is there a soft cap for fury warrior for haste and mastery? i wanna make a crafted weapon but in doubt on the stats to take THX

modest condor
#

no

ancient meteor
#

Hello guys potential stupid question but, I have a 610 Mh 2h weapon and an offhand 567. WIll It be better if I switch to arms until I get a better offhand? I come from classic where weapon damage is pretty much everything, I don't know if it's a huge deal here too. Thanks

hazy plinth
#

Dude you can get a better 2h out of Heroics. Also look at world quests as they sometimes have weapons in loot. Pretty much anything that drops for you at this point should be better than that

arctic sinew
#

Do you guys take frenzied or powerful enrage for MT fights in raid?

opal dock
#

Hell a crafted weapon at 590 would make a big difference

#

But how much does offhand damage affect ability damage?

modest condor
#

well it's your 2nd strongest item after mainhand

polar trail
ancient meteor
wild wind
#

Bro I want to craft a 610 pvp bracer to get my embellishment but i cant find someone to do it

craggy river
ancient meteor
#

Will do

hazy plinth
ancient meteor
#

Thanks

hazy plinth
#

As for the original question, Arms is only going to be better if you are proficient at playing it.

grizzled shard
#

probably a stupid question but do we only wanna send execute in our rotation when we get 3 stacks of marked for execution, not less?

modest condor
#

3 marks of execution or ashen juggernaut is about to fall off

hazy plinth
#

Lol that's hard for me. I always want to click the shiny button.

grizzled shard
#

ive been royally messing up then xD

craggy river
#

Or you dont have any other shit to press

ornate valley
#

Single minded fury meta when

craggy river
#

13.0 trust

arctic copper
#

anyone know where ican find a weakaura that reminds you to loot crests off boss? I saw it on some streams. can't find it on wago

lyric saddle
#

do you actually need a reminder for that

frank dawn
#

do they not get mailed to you if you mess it up?

vast prism
#

How do you forget to loot ?lol

hazy plinth
#

If you need mods to remember to loot... I dunno what to say

arctic copper
#

they don't mail to u

arctic copper
#

and failed auto-loot makes you forget them

#

like the auto-loot will loot half the loot

frank dawn
#

the auto loot bugs are hella annoying

arctic copper
#

^

#

thus i want the weakaura the RWF guys are using

gusty compass
#

How does the raid trinkets work? Transmitter and Mandate when do you use them? pre pull or ?

ancient meteor
#

I realized very alte that I need to put my looot specialization to arms to only get 2h 😦

craggy river
lyric saddle
gusty compass
#

I dont have them

lyric saddle
#

thats what i do

gusty compass
#

Im just wondering

lyric saddle
#

oh then idk ahah

sick jungle
#

recipe was only 7k and I'm already specced a bit into bracers

craggy river
#

Why care about trinkets you dont have?

plain magnet
#

hey, is there any info about stats cap?

craggy river
#

You do as the robot commands @plain magnet

plain magnet
#

@craggy river ah ok, but on raidbot I don't see after sim info about stats, only in game

craggy river
#

Does it matter? If item is better u equip

sinful spoke
#

Any warriors on A52 need their weapon crafted send it to me and ill make it for free or whatever u want i know them mats are like 100k total

plain magnet
#

ok, thanks

sick jungle
#

i just learned that recrafting takes in consideration the original mats used to craft

sinful spoke
#

Yea

sick jungle
#

maybe I shouldn't have skimped out on my 619 craft lmao

finite sundial
#

I was wondering this the other day

sick jungle
#

oh well, just means I gotta use my conc for my 636 whenever the hell I get enough gilded

unreal onyx
#

I am still craft-less but I don’t wanna craft a heroic piece sadge

#

I always crafted max ilvl instantly

finite sundial
#

I would do a 639 wep if I was you

sick jungle
#

then I tried pugging m+ and crafted my 619 immediately with the free runed crest

#

fuck that shit bro I ain't waiting now

unreal onyx
#

Im on business trip next week so I can’t really farm gilded crests for 2 weeks now

#

Feelsbadman

sick jungle
#

you gotta do how many +9's to get enough for a gilded crest? nah lmao I ain't critcake

unreal onyx
#

I did some 7s on release day and some bosses go crazy

sick jungle
#

yeah man

#

highest I've pugged is a 6

unreal onyx
#

Looking at NW 3rd boss

sick jungle
#

and we went over time by 20 seconds feelsbadman

#

stichflesh?

unreal onyx
#

Ye

low folio
#

i feel like tww dungeons are mostly more enjoyable than the old poorly reworked dungeons

sick jungle
#

man fuck that boss lmao

onyx widget
#

Yo, If I enchant a chest piece with biggest enchant, does that enchant follow if I catalyst the chest for a tier piece?

sick jungle
#

gotta love people messing up the hook

onyx widget
#

Tyvm ❤️

unreal onyx
#

I feel like bosses are either basically free or extra hard with current tuning

low folio
#

i swear the stitchflesh adds do more group wide damage than they did when i last played beta

frank dawn
#

TWW dungeons just need tuning. Mechanics all mostly seem to work pretty well - I guess same can be said for outliers in mists/necrotic.

but siege and grim are just obnoxious and/or absurd as the key levels get high

empty carbon
#

should we be crafting the 2h this week?

low folio
#

i dislike siege a lot more than grim batol

sinful spoke
#

Including the boss

unreal onyx
#

At least I got mark in my first grim run

#

Only champ track tho

low folio
#

the adds before the boss didnt feel that rough for me

sick jungle
sinful spoke
sick jungle
#

I was in grim for 2 hours on back to back bricked keys lol

unreal onyx
#

I only did a 5 grim but that one was very smooth sailing

sick jungle
#

mfers just couldn't do the final boss, even when I said stop killing adds right away they kept doing it

frank dawn
sick jungle
#

so who has crafted their 636 wep this week

main cape
#

Will I regret crafting the 2h if I like M+ more than raid

slender coral
#

So, my plan is to grind out two hammers from GB. This means not crafting a weapon. Instead, I think I should craft bracers and a cloak, right? Put the double effect on the bracers and the duskthread on the cloak. What do yall think?

empty carbon
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hey guys how do i craft the weapon? 2 sparks and how do i get it 636? abit lost

wild wind
wild wind
idle ember
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its over

wild wind
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u get it from 9+ mythic keystones and Mythic raiding

empty carbon
sterile stratus
wild wind
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you can recraft it later

low folio
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you can upgrade that weapon by recrafting it with less mats required

wild wind
idle ember
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I honestly haven't ever played arms just simmed it

wild wind
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ill sim too lmao

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lets see

low folio
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they definitely made arms worse to play coming to the expansion

idle ember
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its an m+ siege of boralus sim

low folio
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baseline kit that is

wild wind
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Its pretty boring for me

idle ember
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Cleave is almost 30% damage

maiden ingot
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Before I send anything, Crafted Mainhand should give us offhand discount, correct?

sick jungle
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I don't hate arms

idle ember
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your wrist would thank you

stray mirage
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anyone can share spear macro to spear onself?

sick jungle
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i crafted 619 and immediately upped my OH to 619

queen linden
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Which two would you all run for M+? All are 609+

alpine haven
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none

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go trinketless be a chad

queen linden
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Oh fuck, bet

sick jungle
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wtf 609+

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meanwhile I can't even get a m+ item to drop

wild wind
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Sac and Shard

pure totem
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same both my trinkets are 593..

sick jungle
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like /cast [@player] champion's spear

sterile stratus
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I have gotten the gloves from Arakara 7 times now. End me

vast crystal
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Fury warrior crafting question
In im not counting on getting a myth track weapon from raid nearest week my best shot Will be m+, but i need 2.

Is it more worth crafting 639 weap or 2x armor?

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sick jungle
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lmao arms is just better now eh

wild wind
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I dont have tier set yet

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maybe it would change with the tier set

queen linden
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Tier set is ass