might with avoidance
#fury
worldly shard
naive plover
started warrior alt and gear is shit, worth using this one hander over the low ilvl 2 hander?
clever belfry
the imposter
proud crown
I'd say it's probs better than an agi wep
naive plover
not sure how accurate this is
proud crown
gilded pawn
no way bro is enchanting weapons
snow edge
Hey mate, when you provided your sim the other day you had only 1 embellishment - in the sim your crafted pants didn't have a shadowflame patch on them
That's all I meant; at the time you only had 1
rotund ginkgo
guys
clever belfry
hey guy
rotund ginkgo
we're doing 28 dht tyr and my group is telling me its better to try to rng spell reflect feed on the weak than it is to spell reflect nightmare bolts
since rng reflecting feed of the weak = i do no damage, but i get no damage
so its a major defensive if its on me
clever belfry
agreed honestly
warm crag
inclined to agree ye
warm crag
but its somewhat cringe to predict
clever belfry
if u live holt it's cool as is
if u dont live a bolt cause ure out of buttons ofc press ref
rotund ginkgo
i mean 1m hp and can dstance it
clever belfry
also id defo go icy pres flask for that boss unless timer is tight
its REALLY good on that kinda dmg pattern
modest condor
idk man, i feel like def stance + iv should be plenty for feed on the weak
mossy fox
summer quail
We have tons of vers this tier as well
modest condor
checked a log for a +29 tyrannical and it would basically do about 1.5mil damage if you have def stance up at that keylevel, so IV and 1 or 2 heals from the healer and you're fine
frosty patrol
what is IV
unreal onyx
impending victory
tender seal
How to improve this bloodlust WA? Maybe some pumper music?
frosty patrol
ahty
unreal onyx
How to improve this bloodlust WA? Maybe some pumper music?
I like that
is the vid exactly as long as bl
or does it stop abruptly
tender seal
its a gif, loops untill BL runs out
unreal onyx
ahh sadge
sour frigate
How to improve this bloodlust WA? Maybe some pumper music?
add scooter
tender seal
i found something ill put on
sour frigate
anyone got a sudden death proc wa? I got one but its only sound without indicator 😦
gilded pawn
Just don’t run sd
sour frigate
no
spark pelican
random question 2 wafting devotions or one wafting on sophic?
rotund ginkgo
idk man, i feel like def stance + iv should be plenty for feed on the weak
it is yeah
also feed is impossible to fuckin catch
i did it once rn on a 27 we timed
the 28 brick wasnt my fault tho 
it doesnt follow the spell queue timers at all
sleek nexus
Just don’t run sd
the heck would you then run if not SD?
plucky patio
best slots for tier?
snow edge
Whatever sims the best based on the gear you have basically
There's a 'BiS List' that is a loose guide on wowhead, but largely it will be based on what individual pieces you have available
plucky patio
gotcha, so theres no best slots like last tier
snow edge
Not really; Fury likes all secondaries to some degree, so there aren't 'bad' stats for us
I'm running Helm as the offpiece for example, purely because that combination simmed best for me with what I had available at the time
olive wraith
I too am running helm cause I got an early Ad drop
gilded pawn
gotcha, so theres no best slots like last tier
true "bis" hasnt existed since legion
snow edge
I mean it exists in theory, it's just that 99% of players won't ever get the necessary gear to complete that list
Plus we have such easy access to topgear / simming and to be able to determine what's individually best for us with very little effort nowadays
wanton mirage
does Real Avatar or Avatar from OF free DHT 2nd boss root?
plucky patio
true "bis" hasnt existed since legion
sure but in season 2 we had a preferred off piece
plucky patio
thats what i was asking
gilded pawn
what may be off piece for bis may not be the off piece for you right now
modest condor
does Real Avatar or Avatar from OF free DHT 2nd boss root?
both of them do, but the one from OF only works if you dont already have avatar active
plucky patio
ok so without the condescending non answer is there a preferred set of tier pieces
eternal sundial
legs and helm can be skipped
some trust in the atal helmet
others in the gnarl pants
the sim profile goes for haste versa legs in the end
plucky patio
thank you
plucky patio
very helpful actually thank you!
young swan
good shit philip
eternal sundial
like by a tad i mean below 1% dps for arms (MY GEAR BE AWARE)
modest condor
for fury the difference is 0.1%
young swan
no potential to change until tomorrow
soft merlin
Daily check....they buff fury yet?
honest sundial
@honest sundial
modest condor
@honest sundial
lunar cape
is it worth sending fyralath on pull or bettter to wait till after cds?
elder granite
you want to apply the dot first i think
the more dotted targets the more damage on use does
max of 5 targets
wanton mirage
now 50 targets
sour frigate
keen kindle
is it worth sending fyralath on pull or bettter to wait till after cds?
pins
Third down
mild kraken
does signing up for a key you need and getting declined tilt anyone else or just me?
modest condor
just you
mild kraken
i must have issues
sour frigate
superiority complex
mild kraken
ill look into it
sour frigate
u shouldnt
compact knot
is anyone smart enough at macros able to tell me how to make a macro that will throw ravager (not instantly or at my feet, i want to target it) and then use the ez-thro in the same spot as ravager?
steady wharf
my sims are prioritizing crit gems and rings - am I dumb?
compact knot
whats ur crit at rn
sour frigate
my sims are prioritizing crit gems and rings - am I dumb?
no just sims are too smart
steady wharf
2772 ~22%
mild kraken
u shouldnt
why not
mild kraken
mo money mo problems?
compact knot
is anyone smart enough at macros able to tell me how to make a macro that will t...
nvm i got it
meager gyro
lil pumpies but no axe ty enhance shaman. I never get to play with WFT
sour frigate
mo money mo problems?
id say more money less problems lol
mild kraken
id say more money less problems lol
word
meager gyro
lemme leave pugs out of the screenshot sry 😁
brittle crow
guys help im going insane
keen kindle
guys help im going insane
Your name is the greatest insult I have ever heard
brittle crow
i have this npc quote in my head and i dont know who it comes from or if it even exists at all
is there any npc with a dwarf-ish accent who says "keep your irons in the fire" when u stop talking to them
brittle crow
Your name is the greatest insult I have ever heard
my name is simply a suggestion, go do it
keen kindle
I'd rather stab myself
brittle crow
it's easy!
keen kindle
It's more annoying then spine!
brittle crow
thats cap
spine gives me multiple different STIs every time i do it
eonar is brain off
brittle crow
its as easy on paladin as it is on warrior bet
sour frigate
lemme leave pugs out of the screenshot sry 😁
brittle crow
i will prove it to u for 5 dollars
keen kindle
As a paladin you have something called crap mobility
keen kindle
Did u solo kill it thou
brittle crow
warrior has no mobility on that right other than leap cuz u can't charge to shit
keen kindle
GJ
sour frigate
Speared
keen kindle
Fucking gamer
brittle crow
im about to finish leveling my paladin then go do eonar just to prove a petty point
im heated now
brittle crow
can't charge shit on the ship except for crystals and then ur charges are gone
paladin can charger/freedom thru the ship ez
keen kindle
When I did it on pally
I barely got OFF the ship before I died
Cuz I full send evreything on the crystals and fight wings are fucking useless in there
brittle crow
wings r useful for going diagonally across
runic pine
Also YOU CAN charge shit
you can't charge anything where mobility matters?
the only part where you need mobility is ship crystals
brittle crow
plus ive done the ship without wings before too
if warrior can do ship with 1 leap and a charge then paladin clears ez
with 2 chargers and a freedom
runic pine
the only reason people think eonar is hard to solo is because they don't know the tech
brittle crow
idk if i know the tech either
i kill stuff until eonar wipes the rest, go do ship, go back down, repeat
runic pine
that's basically it
runic pine
but you can go up without filling eonar energy and wipe
brittle crow
the real secret is i dont do eonar at all anymore hehehoo
did it 3 times for skip never again
sour frigate
meager gyro
what kind of macro?
you can macro Recklesness and might of ocean together.
You can macro spell reflect to announce you're using it.
You can macro pummel with a mouseover cursor function.
You can macro bloodthirst mouseover if you run fresh meat.
You can macro intervene/charge (I haven't used intervene at all this season).
young swan
does anyone have the macros for fury?
if you have any further questions feel free to ask
elder tendon
is it good to macro recklesness with roar?
young swan
no
elder tendon
and avatar + reck?
young swan
also no
elder tendon
nvm is the t30
Recklessness -> Charge -> Rampage -> Odyn's Fury -> Spear of Bastion/Thunderous Roar -> Bloodbath -> Rampage -> Avatar -> Bloodbath
good opener?
delete spear
young swan
the only macro i would recommend would be binding a trinket to reck
olive wraith
I macro augment rune with battle shout
elder tendon
also big question, do i use slam, or never?
olive wraith
Slam is used
young swan
you do
frosty patrol
just read the guide man
elder tendon
i am reading it bro sorry for asking questions im new
olive wraith
Read it first then ask if you need clarification
young swan
its fine, but as a general rule of thumb yeah you should read through everything first and then ask for clarification
brittle crow
does getting antorus skip on mythic not apply to lower difficulties?
elder tendon
yea i read it thats is why i am asking x)
olive wraith
If you read it you’d know we use slam?
elder tendon
the things that as a non english speaker i dont understand
young swan
cant even think of the number of times I've read something and had questions only for them to get answered later in the same piece of text
elder tendon
If you read it you’d know we use slam?
i think that it was a misunderstanding as my english is not good
young swan
ur all good
elder tendon
lemme use google
olive wraith
Pretty sure the rotation has tooltip too?
elder tendon
so when i dont have rampage up for example?
dire vigil
217k good for H Smoldy? Joined a pug, this was the kill dps list
clever path
Look at logs it will tell you
young swan
217k good for H Smoldy? Joined a pug, this was the kill dps list
not great, not terrible
dire vigil
Was nice to beat the fat 3150 m+ score Pallys
keen kindle
217k good for H Smoldy? Joined a pug, this was the kill dps list
With an aug sounds okay
That lock and dh thou
keen kindle
Also
clever path
I did 257 today
keen kindle
Absoutle god level gamer name
young swan
so when i dont have rampage up for example?
gonna refer you to the guide https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/fury/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps it has a priority tool that you can configure as u wish
dire vigil
Thank you hahaha
I guess we'll just have to check the log parse based on the kill timer
Felt kinda slow
warm crag
https://i.imgur.com/zn58Bcq.png lets gooooo we in there
gz
elder tendon
guys the 11111 macro hurts my hand
which macro??
dire vigil
was an 81%.. meh
I probably whirlwinded a couple places I could have sudden death Executed or slammed
left perch
which macro??
/cast Bloodbath
/cast Rampage
elder tendon
/cast Bloodbath
/cast Rampage
it works good? better than keybind both?
left perch
bind it to scroll wheel
Gonna have to, it’s not for fingers my goodness
young swan
it works good? better than keybind both?
you still have to have both keybound
its just for the opener
brittle crow
is pressing 2 abilities u have bound anyways that hard
elder tendon
its just for the opener
after odyn fury ?
sudden tusk
young swan
they are a brand new player
meager gyro
SMF spec, I don’t even use slam hotbar, so class tree gets more crit 
storm rune
Man I just got dunked by a pug war on Tswift, I was holding about 250k DPS and they chunked me by a good 30k
young swan
gg he hit roots harder than you
storm rune
mild kraken
show me some st sims to see how far behind i am
restive peak
My rogue got 6 BIS pieces today man….second day at 70…why can I never have this luck on my warrior lmao
eternal phoenix
It's leggo weapon bis ?
junior gale
no Ashkandi is better
keen kindle
It's leggo weapon bis ?
No because it dosen't exist 🙂
left perch
Man I just got dunked by a pug war on Tswift, I was holding about 250k DPS and t...
man I just dunked on some premade warrior like he did fine 250k but I chunked him by a good 30k
young swan
It's leggo weapon bis ?
yes
elder tendon
leg wep is not bis?
sour frigate
cause only like 20 ppl have it
sinful spoke
fake news
young swan
leg wep is not bis?
it is
sinful spoke
xan spreading misinformation rn
crimson bay
wouldnt the ilvl alone make it BiS?
sinful spoke
can we get a role like that with a little icon of the axe @edgy widget ?
modest condor
wouldnt the ilvl alone make it BiS?
yes
sour frigate
nobody will ever invite me to a 24/25
use ur own key
dense elbow
ive reached the end of my line pugging keys
Use the network you built on your way there. You should be able to PuG 26/27, but I truly recommend you to transition to premade 
anyhow, gj and gz on 3.2k
meager gyro
Legendary is not BiS weapon, I can confirm @young swan
olive wraith
meager gyro
Barbed Fang and Gholak are my BiS
timid forge
whats better for nymue if im on 3rd Add? Full send on pull then again after 1st intermission and again after 2nd intermission then holding for mythic add? OR, Full send on pull then again on 1st intermission and 2nd and again on 3rd Add? And outside of pull only sending OF into boss?
olive wraith
Are there no better 1h
meager gyro
Are there no better 1h
tyr's is good
snow edge
whats better for nymue if im on 3rd Add? Full send on pull then again after 1st ...
I think if you're essentially sending on CD, it's on pull -> immediately after first set of adds die -> on add -> halfway through 3rd boss phase -> near the end of the 4th boss phase; unless you're really struggling raid wise for add damage, I wouldn't hold specifically for the third add
jade onyx
So how many augury procs you get in average in like 2-3 mins fights? Like sometimes on the shaman I get it like twice during 3 minutes but other like 5 in 3 minutes. You also see that variance on warrior?
timid forge
Augary is like the axe...... doesnt exist
snow edge
Tbh don't think I've ever checked my procs, it's fairly consistent and it's passive so largely not worth worrying about
woeful birch
Augary is like the axe...... doesnt exist
Imagine the disappointment when you get axe and then see your 5 itemlevel lower windwalker alt sim and doing more damage in keys
clever path
good morning yall
What is the name of the addon nowadays, that isnt outdated, that makes frames like htat
tiny wolf
That looks like XPerl
lavish hearth
Should we wait between odyn fury and avatar proc to not waste odyn fury dot ?
clever path
That looks like XPerl
ty
sour frigate
Should we wait between odyn fury and avatar proc to not waste odyn fury dot ?
Yes iirc u wasting db uptime if not droping few gcds
cosmic lance
You normally just hit avatar as the avatar from odyns wears off
I think the reason is losing a few seconds of DB is worth having more globals of avatar stacked with other CDs
Also that avoids losing any ticks of odyns
stark zealot
olive wraith
Another week. Another no leggo
covert blaze
Another week. Another no leggo
next week for sure
junior gale
and then the next week after for sure
clever path
i dont know but this made me laugh
still swift
is there a spec that makes warrior play well on tindral idk if arms or fury dont both end in depression
clever path
is there a spec that makes warrior play well on tindral idk if arms or fury dont...
you mean who can give the most bad ass buffs?
still swift
if arms or fury would be the play
basically
and if between those theres any actually decent talent setup
covert blaze
is there a spec that makes warrior play well on tindral idk if arms or fury dont...
Mythic?
junior gale
fury is fine on tindral
clever path
windfury from shammy seems to make shit go sky high, so that. Forget about PI from priest lol, that is reserved for DH and BM huntards, but in theory it can make it go brrrr
full stone
is cross realm mythic raid open yet?
fossil hatch
No
calm mantle
If i still don't have a myth weapon is it worth crafting a 486?
young swan
if arms or fury would be the play
fury better, you can either play execute talents or ww talents
young swan
in what context
still swift
If i still don't have a myth weapon is it worth crafting a 486?
next week is legendary
u got this
young swan
yeah prob
young swan
they'll do more damage on trash id imagine but you should hard gap them on bosses
calm mantle
As Fury, should I be able to do more damage than ret palas?
Rets will probably out dps you on bigger pulls, but you should generally be able to beat them in single target.
calm mantle
next week is legendary
Still got my second weapon to worry about tho :c
still swift
Still got my second weapon to worry about tho :c
myth track weapon same time
calm mantle
Yeah, We are 5 target cleave capped, so after odyns we fall off on big trash pulls. Rets don't.
loud crown
makes sense
calm mantle
myth track weapon same time
Okay, I'll believe in the you that believes in me.
young swan
cause our cleave is very mediocre for being capped
we have very strong burst aoe and pretty weak cleave which is compounded by us being capped
if they tuned up our damage to the 5 targets that we can hit consistently it wouldnt be an issue
or if they even just let our 2 set cleave
we would be very very good
lavish grove
or if they even just let our 2 set cleave
Tbh I don't think it would be that op
cosmic lance
We'd be more competitive but definitely not OP
lavish grove
Yea, but developers probably do
young swan
we'd be like the top pick that isnt rogue, dh, mage
that'd be my guess anyways
it would fucking skyrocket fury's power level to let the 2 set cleave
talking about guaranteed 5 target cshb + 4 150% dam bb's getting cleaved on top of the 250% to the main target
south kayak
As Fury, should I be able to do more damage than ret palas?
They do more burst on aoe but not that much
royal sapphire
anyone wanna help me with have a look at my logs and see if im doing anything wrong? just dont seem to be doing somewhat ok damage for my ilvl
south kayak
and fury does a lot more on ST than ret
eternal sundial
As Fury, should I be able to do more damage than ret palas?
If u look at how crit and qurva are doing it's prolly a bit ret favoured
south kayak
or if they even just let our 2 set cleave
The fact that this isn't a thing is a crime
1 min cds doing more burst damage than 1.5m cds
🙃
errant vessel
How much dps would you guys say that fury gains in the last intermission on Smolderon?
south kayak
Idk about you but I feel like longer cds should do more burst than lower ones
@young swan CDR should also affect every target hit
5 crits
don't @ me
13 sec cd reduction per hit
balanced
we still wouldn't do more than havoc
flat river
real
sullen dove
How much dps would you guys say that fury gains in the last intermission on Smol...
ion kno but you can just like select that timeframe on any random log and c
a lot probably
icy cliff
Hi guys, du do you macroed roar with odyn or avatar or bo macro?
lavish hearth
rezan trinket or signet brand
errant vessel
Hi guys, du do you macroed roar with odyn or avatar or bo macro?
no - and it's not optimal either so you shouldn't
errant vessel
roar+odyn doesn't work btw
royal sapphire
got a rotation question, if you dont have the rage for a rampage, slam is on cd and you just used a BT do you wait for the cd then BT again or WW on ST?
icy cliff
I macroed it into avatar but i guess i loose dps and should better press it after odyn
storm rune
got a rotation question, if you dont have the rage for a rampage, slam is on cd ...
General rule is casting anything is better than nothing
errant vessel
got a rotation question, if you dont have the rage for a rampage, slam is on cd ...
WW as your gcd is just gonna be empty otherwise
royal sapphire
true, im having a constant problem of not having rage for rampage so i use another spell but if i waited 0.01 more seconds i would've had enough rage for the rampage. is that an issue with having to much haste?
that the gcd is "to quick" and fucking my rotation since im pushing back rampage a gcd multiple times in the fight?
errant vessel
true, im having a constant problem of not having rage for rampage so i use anoth...
no that's just annihilator issue
storm rune
Savage.
errant vessel
I tend to wait like 100-200 ms if I feel like my autos are coming through within that window and I've already used Slam
royal sapphire
I tend to wait like 100-200 ms if I feel like my autos are coming through within...
so just chill on the button mashing
errant vessel
no keep button mashing but notice your auto pattern
it's very niche that I don't button mash
storm rune
If you have a swing meter you don't need to guess
errant vessel
that as well
storm rune
but that's hella sweaty
royal sapphire
i just downloaded one
storm rune
Just press a button, even a bad button is better than no button
fallen ginkgo
Just press a button, even a bad button is better than no button
alt f4 is the best rota
errant vessel
xd
royal sapphire
Rampage 0.2s later is better than WW on ST surely
thats what im thinking
errant vessel
that's how I play anyway
storm rune
Every time you delay the GCD adds up, so delaying for .2 may not sound bad, but if you do it 20 times in a fight you've just lost several GCDs of abilities
errant vessel
APL doesn't have any "wait for auto" though, so I don't know if it's a net gain but intuitively I'd guess it is
errant vessel
Every time you delay the GCD adds up, so delaying for .2 may not sound bad, but ...
nono it happens at most like 2 times a fight
we're not arguing waiting every gcd that you'd use ww in
just those niche moments of being 78 rage and auto nearly coming through
storm rune
Sure that was an extreme example
But like, as long as you're not wasting rage it doesn't matter
You're going to run into a rage deficit at some point, so think of it like investing in your rotation 8 seconds from now by topping off the gas tank early.
errant vessel
WW doesn't give rage with ST talents though
storm rune
huh didn't even realize that
flat river
when button available, i press
storm rune
But talents aside, you won't lose any overall rampage casts so long as you're not rage capping, that WW isn't taking up a cast, it's just moving it once over on the timeline
Gala smart
storm rune
flat river
tardy lark
Most times you’d rather press a button without delay
flat river
EXACLY
errant vessel
btw has APL been updated to not being BB->Execute(even if overcap)->Rampage now?
because it looks like you just maintain Exe buff and else cycle BB and Ramp
flat river
BB>Rampage>Execute
unless no rage to press rampage
i tried cooking yesterday
it didn't work
i got shot down
summer quail
It's still bb>exe>ramp in execute phase with ashen jugg
Unless it changed within the last 2 days
errant vessel
yeah I just checked again
I misread first rampage as the one we're using
but it's for anger management
summer quail
Yes, it's not the biggest deal if you bb>ramp tho in exe
errant vessel
execute,if=buff.enrage.up&!buff.furious_bloodthirst.up&buff.ashen_juggernaut.up|buff.sudden_death.remains<=gcd&(target.health.pct>35&talent.massacre|target.health.pct>20)
I wonder if this line could be optimized around the "!buff.furious_bloodthirst.up" though
eternal sundial
try it out?
summer quail
Also there's only 3 fights we run ashen in and one of them is a complete joke
errant vessel
because it shouldn't matter if it's up as long as its in avatar right?
eternal sundial
copypasta exact APL but add your thing
flat river
question
season 4 when the fated raids comes out
we can choose which set we want right?
eternal sundial
is it season 4
eternal sundial
cuz if it isnt we dont have any info yet
summer quail
That set was fun af. It just wasn't very good
errant vessel
Anyone with experience in APL that knows how to get 2set stacks? buff.furious_bloodthrist.stacks, buff.furious_bloodthrist.amount, etc?
errant vessel
enormous
empty grove
now for Tindral jail 🙂
errant vessel
we have 3 absent for today :(
empty grove
bro 😦
errant vessel
1 of them being our sub rogue who's consistently ~40k ahead of #2
clever belfry
now for Tindral jail 🙂
tindral is fun
empty grove
dont lie to me
eternal sundial
@clever belfrydo u agree with the take tindral=anduin
i feel like its eerily similar with how u wipe
clever belfry
didnt play sofo
eternal sundial
missed some of the worst out there
clever belfry
i mean yeah tindral is rough and some wipes just feel unfair
but the way u actually have to play the mechs is really fun
long prairie
invest all points into vers
ok thanks !:
clever belfry
you take what you get
warrior should not die due to having 24% instead of 32% of vers
if you do, thats just bad play
long prairie
ok thank you
calm mantle
is 230k over all in an EB 24 decent dps? we wiped at 3rd boss and gave up. Just trying to figure if I'm pulling my own weight or not.
No aug.
errant vessel
in details or log?
if details I finish +/- 350k typically but it also depends on size of pulls, amount of wipes on bosses, etc.
eternal sundial
is 230k over all in an EB 24 decent dps? we wiped at 3rd boss and gave up. Just ...
can do more in that key but depends on grp
wiping obv bad for damage
errant vessel
generally speaking it's a bit low though
calm mantle
So I got some improving to do
eternal sundial
what did ur grp do
errant vessel
most likely - but it's hard to tell without seeing a literal recap of the dungeon
calm mantle
323k on the BM hunter and 264k on the DH
fleet sorrel
@sullen dove
errant vessel
EB is wet dream for bm and dh
calm mantle
This was at third boss.
errant vessel
yeah last boss does spike dps but not by that amount
calm mantle
Am I missing much dps with hero weapons only and no Augury or is that jsut an excuse as well? xD
errant vessel
prob not the biggest diff
eternal sundial
Am I missing much dps with hero weapons only and no Augury or is that jsut an ex...
doesnt help but
play matters most
errant vessel
that said, you can vary A LOT in dps based on the tank and based on the dungeon
EB being one of those where it matters more
snow edge
EB is just cooked, especially with BM / DH
calm mantle
I was hoping it'd go smoothly with DH and BM sadly expectations aren't always met
errant vessel
Having an aug feels like it reduces the dmg you take by 3 key levels
which is nice for 3rd boss and last boss EB
eternal sundial
Having an aug feels like it reduces the dmg you take by 3 key levels
but they also do no damage
99% of them are tank dam in logs
calm mantle
I personally don't like Aug in my group as a fury
I honestly feel like I'm not pumping enough to make up for it.
errant vessel
timer is super forgiving in most dungeons though
the problem is being gated by certain oneshot mechanics on bosses
cosmic lance
If you get through the dungeon without a wipe you'll probably time it unless your dps is proper bad
errant vessel
yeah exactly
calm mantle
Theres 3 dungeons taht i struggle with timer on, Rise, Throne and EB.
cosmic lance
Until like very high keys anyway
errant vessel
which is why having an aug feels like cheating
errant vessel
Theres 3 dungeons taht i struggle with timer on, Rise, Throne and EB.
but isn't that due to wiping on certain bosses
cosmic lance
Again though, thats the end-point of an infinite scaling system
At some point things will scale and you cant do them any more
And some classes can do a little more than others
calm mantle
but isn't that due to wiping on certain bosses
I had a really tight timer on throne and we didn't wipe till we got to the bottom hallways, then we goofed up a pull with the watchers and it went to crap but it was still really tight.
cosmic lance
Whether that happens at 20, 30 or 40 is arbitrary
calm mantle
We actually had 0 deaths
errant vessel
Whether that happens at 20, 30 or 40 is arbitrary
isn't your profile picture "OP"s profile picture
cosmic lance
I have no idea, i've used this pfp for years
Its just a space marine with a sloth photoshopped over the head, been around for a long time
The cover of starcraft 2
errant vessel
ye just never seen it anywhere else than that specific fb page
cosmic lance
Pretty sure i saw it over a decade ago
Rise always feels like a tight timer even on smooth runs
Unless you're just giga blasting on damage and its not a push key
Not many places it feels like you can get ahead
serene kraken
tame cipher
if you wanted to take SMF and Frenzied flurry in M+ build what would you drop?
eternal sundial
Prolly bloodcraze float point and 1 vc
But i would even grab frenzied flurry enrage uptime is a fake anyways
calm mantle
Should I modify this in any way for tyr week or its fine?
summer quail
do this instead
loud crown
Is it possible to give up Annihilator and run OF and Onslaught with Raging Blows this tier? (Without sacrificing too much dps)
eternal sundial
Not without dps loss but doable
junior gale
ight which one of u suckers cooked up this build found this on my alt doing a 12 rise this little fury warrior ran this
eternal sundial
Loboz build in scuffed
summer quail
i wish it was me
eternal sundial
Fwiw it's s1 build
calm mantle
do this instead
So i'm just dropping slaughtering for bloodcrazed and that's it?
summer quail
and dancing blades instead of titanic rage
junior gale
I asked him if he was missing some talents lmao and he said he always runs this in keys
eternal sundial
Dancing blades is large
junior gale
summer quail
slaughtering is very weak with annihilator
calm mantle
Ah so I just gotta whirlwind now instead of odyns giving it to me
but it'll increase my ST a bunch yeah?
errant vessel
you also need to get enraged before pressing OF
calm mantle
Sounds like more work ;o
summer quail
more work for damage, titanic rage is just qol. dancing blades owns
errant vessel
don't know the exact % but it's pretty big diff
calm mantle
Take out Titanic even for fort weeks to?
errant vessel
yeah
summer quail
yes, i never run titanic. dancing blades is just too good
eternal sundial
Take out Titanic even for fort weeks to?
DB perma goes hard
errant vessel
TTR is ahead >5 targets, which is why you see some people take it in higher keys on fort weeks
eternal sundial
U do so much st its almost close to a meta class
errant vessel
longer time on >5 targets = more dps gain from TTR
eternal sundial
So if they suck u just do like 220k or some obscene number of st
devout totem
eternal sundial
Havent gotten 220 without 15 stack Brand yet sadly
calm mantle
Fresh meat over bloodcraze?
junior gale
TBH tho TR is where its at on keys lower than a 20 everything dies so quickly you just wanna get your burst out as smoothly as possible
errant vessel
Fresh meat over bloodcraze?
no, bloodcraze is huge gain on ST
eternal sundial
Fresh meat over bloodcraze?
Nah fm is turbo useless
errant vessel
and fresh meat is mainly QoL
eternal sundial
Charge reck charge ww ramp of roar into stuff
calm mantle
So I just gotta remember to rampage before popping odyns now.
eternal sundial
I mean if u have a decent enrage bar or smth itll be easy
If anything the non db talent makes for bad habits in raid
calm mantle
I pretty much copy critcakes ui
soft otter
Guys, how do I remove this shit?
calm mantle
soft otter
Omg thank you so much @eternal sundial
calm mantle
Critcake setup i see
Mhm, it looks so clean I just follow his look
meager lake
Guys, how do I remove this shit? <:critcake:984549832511344640>
can you give me your wakeaura?
is beautifull
eternal sundial
Luxthos on wago
vapid mulch
does anyone have, or know where to find, or how to make xD the sort of macro that changes ur spells based on ur talents taken?
i.e, swap roar to spear
indigo quarry
on wowhead you should have the macro for that one
errant vessel
does anyone have, or know where to find, or how to make xD the sort of macro tha...
/cast [known: Thunderous Roar] Thunderous Roar; [@cursor] Spear of Bastion
[@pulsar wing] if you want it on your position obv
vapid mulch
this is huge, thanks bro, i appreciate u
errant vessel
yeah xd
fallen ginkgo
man nightelf is so good for m+ but zandalari is so cool.. what do i do i cant decide
full viper
I pick Worgen
wild mural
there's only 1 correct answer
fallen ginkgo
here it comes
wild mural
I don't even need to say it
devout totem
b elf
wild mural
no
fallen ginkgo
you gonna say vulpera arent you
wild mural
yes
devout totem
u can arcane torrent for free 15 rage
eternal sundial
smolderon/last boss brh
devout totem
first EB boss
eternal sundial
isnt eb last boss just more
wild mural
the numbers tell you to reroll ret
flat river
XD
errant vessel
what's the avg blue silken uptime in a dungeon and in raid?
smolder I can't imagine it being over 40%
left perch
mines 50-60 in most push keys (21s for me)
oblique trail
what's the avg blue silken uptime in a dungeon and in raid?
You can check logs by filtering Zone of Focus and look at what people have
acoustic furnace
What were your biggest BB crits?
600k is my highest without boss amp and then on smoldy I'll smack him for 1-1.2 million during the amp
Last boss of throne is even higher but I don't think it counts lol
oblique trail
You can check logs by filtering Zone of Focus and look at what people have
There are very few logs to even look at, but on Tindral it looks ass, like 30%~. But on Nymue up to 69% and on Fyrakk 52%
Very tiny sample size but can probably expect something a bit like it
wild mural
reaql
errant vessel
You can check logs by filtering Zone of Focus and look at what people have
ahh ty
I'll stay SF then
sims better for me even on 60% by quite a bit
oblique trail
sims better for me even on 60% by quite a bit
Beat 2x SF for me at 55% by like 0.1%
But at the end it's very minor
And SF/Allied will always work
errant vessel
Allied doesn't make sense for me
clever path
me happy
errant vessel
on 5t 2m it's a 1.1% increase over SF
oblique trail
Allied will always work regardless of target count, and gives defensive value/increases damage of your procs
errant vessel
and SF is 0.9% ST gain over Allied
oblique trail
Was only a 0.6% for me
errant vessel
ye prob because of diff in stat splits
oblique trail
Yeah I put my SF on wrists to just do a 1:1 comparison there
Since I already have good offpieces otherwise
wanton mirage
0.2% for SF patch over Aliied Wristguard in ST.
covert blaze
wrist gang
wild mural
Double SFP enjoyers?
acoustic furnace
Double SFP gang represent
hoary locust
Why fury on myth larodar going ww talents instead of execute?
eternal sundial
adds
youd defo roar but if u turbo kill them with just of and roar then u can try aj ig
winged heart
I need to sim, but not sure how without having the item already in my inventory, so maybe someone else has insight.
I'm 481.6 ilvl. Full gems (7 elemental and one illimited - so only 7 for said purpose) - is Lariat worth getting with 6+ elemental gems over shadowflame patch?
lapis lion
Use gear compare
still swift
I dont want to play shadowflame prism anymore please take me out of this misery
i hate shadowflame prism
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
flat river
sadgers
hard widget
If people wanna game, i’m doing +25’s 4 warriors
flat river
EU?
hard widget
Yes
unreal onyx
noway
tacit crag
I need to sim, but not sure how without having the item already in my inventory,...
If it helps I am 485 with full socketed slots and lariat was still a 1k+ DPS loss. Doesn't seem like it's very good for warrior.
past pivot
Lariat is meh for warrios
tacit crag
St that is, maybe it's a gain in AOE only but didn't want the st hit of over 1k so I didn't sim aoe
still swift
Lariat is meh for warrios
according to keks it aint so it cant be!
oblique trail
Lariat is fine for warrior
It's certainly better than Shadowflame if you're looking at AoE 🤷♂️
And even on ST it's not necessarily far behind either
clever path
We are warriors we all share a single braincell
true sapphire
I need it tonight at 8
summer quail
this is u guys
real
clever path
Sorry I've got it until 8:15
wanton mirage
And even on ST it's not necessarily far behind either
i think it is like ~ 0.7% behind SF + Allied in ST. yeah it could be passable for some
regal sky
Do we change our talents in m+ for tyrannical weeks at all?
I'm running high teens low 20s
wanton mirage
if you are running Titanic Rage, it is recommended to take Dancing blade
molten relic
Just dancing blades instead of titanic rage if you aren’t already
I personally always run DB
sinful spoke
this is u guys
real
regal sky
excellent. thanks guys.
slim coral
Just had a 3500 io mage ask the tank why he didn’t tank the boss in the middle on a 27 rise during the battleground fight….
And then the evoker didn’t even do the first set of orb soaks correctly
Like bruh
These elo inflated meta specs are so annoying
summer quail
also brings a ton of rerollers. holy fuk i haven't seen a good mage in low 20s this tier
winged heart
If it helps I am 485 with full socketed slots and lariat was still a 1k+ DPS los...
thank you.
winged heart
It's certainly better than Shadowflame if you're looking at AoE 🤷♂️
I have been doing more M+ lately so it might be a good play.
past pivot
I have been doing more M+ lately so it might be a good play.
You have allied wrists and an item with flavor packet on it already?
Are the crafted legs any good for M+ this season?
oblique trail
Compared to alternatives id never make the legs
summer quail
legs are good in lower keys, or if adds keep spawning. like in brackenhide they were good
edgy oasis
soooo legendary axe, when is best to use as part of the rotation. on pull? or once ive pop all?
past pivot
soooo legendary axe, when is best to use as part of the rotation. on pull? or on...
In the pins
jagged merlin
Hi I've been playing on Classic and my 64 Fury Warrior hasn't gotten a single proc of Bloodsurge. I'm just wondering if there's a bug with it
oblique trail
Would check https://discord.gg/RbCZJtw this server which is classic focused
The wotlk discussion subchannel is kinda dead by comparison
errant vessel
I’d imagine the legs are decent for Gnarlroot and Igira
Igira you’re looking at very high uptime at least
oblique trail
The only boss I'd somewhat consider it on would be Tindral
vernal bramble
Thought I was doing good, Thought I was doing all I could as fury. But then another warrior with similar ilvl and talents shows up and does 20 mil more dmg in every boss fight in the raid.
Feels bad man
sinful spoke
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jUKcBaG3QKxKvupawZ6tgG can someone take a look at this? and tell me if im simming it correctly? it says the lariat and belt > cloak and wrists
sinful spoke
oh shit i thought i did
summer quail
also simming aoe talents in st
sinful spoke
also simming aoe talents in st
yeah i noticed that just now kek
nocturne dragon
woot cheche already got the leggy axe so gg
wild mural
It's joever
eternal sundial
bunch of ppl have it
hasty path
also brings a ton of rerollers. holy fuk i haven't seen a good mage in low 20s t...
theres no good mages period ever
they are always meta
and the players always suck
summer quail
real
errant vessel
The only boss I'd somewhat consider it on would be Tindral
Aren’t spears every 20s on Igira?
Or 25s
I don’t remember
oblique trail
I don't remember either, but I'd just stick to normal embellishments for Igira
errant vessel
It’s like 12% haste for 10s per spear though
eternal sundial
lego doesnt make u get 99s randomly
oblique trail
The Spears die in like .1 millisecond for us, where as on Tindral you can actually utilise the haste to kill the vines faster
eternal sundial
It’s like 12% haste for 10s per spear though
haste isnt great tho
eternal sundial
swap arms now
sinful spoke
💀
crimson briar
I did :3
summer quail
looking at your logs you can prob get purples with leggo
errant vessel
lego doesnt make u get 99s randomly
It does bring you from 98 to 99 though
wild mural
lego doesnt make u get 99s randomly
Wrong, ignorant and wrong
sinful spoke
ur a freak for that
errant vessel
And from 90 to 96+
crimson briar
So much more fun than fury
eternal sundial
And from 90 to 96+
its like 11k on st for me
if you only do 200 ur not getting a good log anyways 🤷♂️
oblique trail
Wrong, ignorant and wrong
Council is a tank fight
sinful spoke
looking at your logs you can prob get purples with leggo
maybe
oblique trail
If your tanks are shit so will your log be
errant vessel
if you only do 200 ur not getting a good log anyways 🤷♂️
Nono but 2x I’ve been gatekept from a 100 log by not having legendary
This season
crimson briar
the copium here is insane
fury rotation rn is simply dog doo doo
sinful spoke
so is arms my brozzer
errant vessel
Which is poopoo
sinful spoke
Nono but 2x I’ve been gatekept from a 100 log by not having legendary
drops on reset 100%
errant vessel
eternal sundial
Nono but 2x I’ve been gatekept from a 100 log by not having legendary
u considered just critting 100% of ur bts?
crimson briar
so is arms my brozzer
arms is just feeling 100% more enjoyable in all content rn man soz
summer quail
Nono but 2x I’ve been gatekept from a 100 log by not having legendary
ye tbf i think i would have rank 1 larodar with the leggo(when we killed it) but would mean getting leggo really really early
errant vessel
ye tbf i think i would have rank 1 larodar with the leggo(when we killed it) but...
Same exact boss for me
summer quail
now it's like rank 155 or something
errant vessel
Same with council
sinful spoke
@crimson briar r u progging btw
sinful spoke
legit just pick it up
crimson briar
<@251123847519141888> r u progging btw
ye but im warrior/mw rn so I dont have nymue on warrior yet
sinful spoke
peko flexed his leggo in dms to me
stark zealot
I was an Arms main but had to swap to Fury when we got to M Smolderon. qol is just so much better as Fury because of not dying to everything
errant vessel
reconsider your item aquisition strategy
Okay but what if I gather enough blp to get 2x leggo in one drop
crimson briar
its a talent of mine what can I say
errant vessel
That’d be huge dps increase
crimson briar
happened like 5 times last tier too
sinful spoke
yeah but u didnt get evoker leggo
eternal sundial
Okay but what if I gather enough blp to get 2x leggo in one drop
then you get good logs
crimson briar
I was an Arms main but had to swap to Fury when we got to M Smolderon. qol is ju...
on m smoldy rn and arms feels fine ngl
will 100% be swapping on tindie though
past pivot
Other than the lack of DPS?
errant vessel
Our arms warr said the same thing on smold
eternal sundial
Other than the lack of DPS?
you can get a fatal mark in intermission its kinda yolked
ppaw got a 8 mil one on it
sinful spoke
my guilds arm war got a 10m fatal mark
eternal sundial
also stole many dmg from the aug
the important part
crimson briar
its just that easy fellas
summer quail
also stole many dmg from the aug
that's okay, augs aren't people
stark zealot
I played Arms for all of Smolderon prog until right before the kill and it was mostly fine but if you get hit by anything you're dead and you only do dps in execute so just didn't feel worth it
sinful spoke
imagine not being able to just press enraged regen on smoldy
stark zealot
True but there's only like 15 M Smolderon kills for Arms and like 2k for Fury for a reason lmao
sinful spoke
and living through ring
eternal sundial
big colossus dam on fyrakk
sinful spoke
on tswift
eternal sundial
surely
sinful spoke
💀
crimson briar
after weeks of prog on tindie Ill sneak in the arms angle
eternal sundial
my guild is used to bored raiders changing spec mid prog so ill give arms a go
nocturne dragon
btw for using the commanding shout we just use it whenever there will be raid damage coming?
oblique trail
You use it when it's called for
past pivot
Usually when RL calls for it
nocturne dragon
if we are on pug?
oblique trail
If it's not assigned or called for, just use it when a lot of damage will go otu
south kayak
It's it called Rallying shout
oblique trail
Rallying cry
nocturne dragon
Alright I will just use it whenever there is big damage coming to raid since I mostly pugging
covert blaze
It's it called Rallying shout
south kayak
I made a minor spelling mistake but you don't have axe
crimson briar
the best use for it is 2 seconds after someone gets popped
hasty path
clever belfry
https://tenor.com/view/spelling-mistake-minor-spelling-mistake-meme-gif-23650588
facts & logic
covert blaze
I made a minor spelling mistake but you don't have axe
next week for sure
violet trail
Aint even a spelling mistake. Its just a straight up mistake.
south kayak
next week for sure
I believe in you
south kayak
Aint even a spelling mistake. Its just a straight up mistake.
I fumbled big time
violet trail
I fumbled big time
You fucked up now A-aron
red yew
https://tenor.com/view/spelling-mistake-minor-spelling-mistake-meme-gif-23650588
Devastating L
red yew
More like L'e sham
south kayak
out of cataclysm
inland flame
try enhance it absolutely vomits damage
yknow if you want to play another aoe cap spec
south kayak
i prefer ele
eternal sundial
L
inland flame
L-emental huehue
covert blaze
ele is fun this season
inland flame
fr tho I got the execute staff outta Dawn the other day I might try it soon
south kayak
peak comedy hours
inland flame
just need a second spell trinket
south kayak
ele is fun this season
cleaving lava bursts is pog
south kayak
i remember in the PTR
covert blaze
red yew
south kayak
man not using enough earthquakes
inland flame
he was prolly just sabotaged by his tank
south kayak
yeah possibly
red yew
Yeah but it's literally the sun?
south kayak
you probably know that
covert blaze
man not using enough earthquakes
u sure? eq is pretty bad
south kayak
nah it's pretty good
covert blaze
you overcap maelstrom like crazy on purpose
south kayak
i mean it's not really good
but it's fine
they buffed it a few weeks ago by 50% lmao
covert blaze
tru
sullen dove
<@593536556472729602>
quoi
south kayak
@covert blaze the 4p does nothing on ST aside from the 10% damage from LB
covert blaze
<@235857431492558848> the 4p does nothing on ST aside from the 10% damage from L...
I only played a little bit of ele
I want to play it but gearing as resto atm
covert blaze
no monk healer
south kayak
Where restoration warrior
glad tangle
Worth it to run signet/augury rather than might/augury on tyrannical? Just got signet this week
Or is might is always best choice for m+
south kayak
only situation i'd use signet in is if you're in a decent group and during spiteful weeks
with a tank who keeps pulling
eternal nebula
do a whoopsie before timer runs out
glad tangle
Cool thanks all!
covert blaze
Worth it to run signet/augury rather than might/augury on tyrannical? Just got s...
what Box said
south kayak
I only played a little bit of ele
it feels so good to have a premanent uptime of 30%+ haste lmao
autumn mica
Warrior life
rugged mist
love to see it.
hallow moth
How do I talk a friend into going back to warrior
He parses orange as warrior. And only greys as rogue but he's like WARRIOR ISNT META REEE
frank dawn
a man must embrace his fate, or be destroyed by it
warm crag
grey rogue is probably better than orange warrior tbh
south kayak
He parses orange as warrior. And only greys as rogue but he's like WARRIOR ISNT ...
let me guess, he's outlaw?
wild mural
paladin? im gonna be sick
median marsh
we start prog on mythic smolderon,
i watched our lord and savior pov
what is this WA?
oblique trail
It's a part of Northern Sky's WA pack
It shows the safespots in the current ring set and the next ring set
The left one being current, right one the next
summer quail
think i have that as well, never looked at it
wild mural
we start prog on mythic smolderon,
i watched our lord and savior pov
what is th...
that#s very confusiung
oblique trail
Top to bottom, it's middle, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and furthest ring
Green = safe, red = dead
oblique trail
You can do that if no balls went through and if your RL allows it
still swift
You can do that if no balls went through and if your RL allows it
ignore ur RL do what u think is coolest
oblique trail
I did
still swift
do u think the coolest thing is looting the legendary
unreal onyx
surely its deadge tonight
you killed it before, no?
oblique trail
No I think the coolest thing is having fun and progging hard bosses
still swift
thats why u dont loot it
wild mural
you killed it before, no?
no lol
unreal onyx
tindral is not fun
wild mural
median marsh
Top to bottom, it's middle, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and furthest ring
tyvm!!