fury

[ember apex]

so is there universal criteria that i can use to do DPS power rankings

[wild mural]

no

[unreal onyx]

dps

[ember apex]

like by player

[past pivot]

Not with Augvokers in the game

[plucky ice]

[errant vessel]

No but you could make your own up

[vague sand]

Do interviews, one on one with a training dummy and test them

[wild mural]

If you wanna be really basic about it you go by parses

[errant vessel]

Like parse * avg survivability

[ember apex]

ok this is good

so

do i take parse from kills only

[orchid fable]

we have a cap for haste and mastery?

aprox

[ember apex]

not a hard cap u need to sim ur char

[past pivot]

sim and follow that

[errant vessel]

Yeah kill only

[clever path]

i mean its entirely mechanic dependant

if he is unable to do simple mechanics and dps then he is not good

[unreal onyx]

mythic raiding is like 20% DPS check and 80% mechanic check

imo

[wild mural]

^

[ember apex]

so if that player 100 parses on a boss when he gets 0 mechanics but dies when he gets mechanics he's at the bottom of the power rankings

[wild mural]

completely agree

[vague sand]

but if boss was killed and he topped, isnt he doing his job?

[wild mural]

yes]

[clever path]

dps is just executing ur rotation

which is esay

[vague sand]

would you rather pass someone who does mechanics but real shit dps then?

[ember apex]

ok so if a guy does every mechanic perfectly but he is perpetually the shittiest DPS he's at the top

[wild mural]

well done you can press your buttons in order but as soon as you have to use your brain you die? you're fucking out of my team yknow

[unreal onyx]

coordinating 20 people to not make mistakes for 5min+ is the hard part

[clever path]

absolutely

but people who can do mechanics but cant execute their rotations are also out

[wild mural]

Not necessarily

[ember apex]

so how do i objectively power rank dps. im super confused

[vague sand]

You want someone that can balance both

[plucky ice]

you dont , just take people who can do mechanics and dps, simple

[wild mural]

^

[vague sand]

Knowing your class, when to pop cds and still do mechanics is what I would consider top dps

[errant vessel]

You don’t - it’s entirely subjective by definition

[plucky ice]

lol lmao

[ember apex]

so a player who gets a mechanic dies 50% of the time and always parses 50 is the top of dps power rankings?

[vague sand]

You cant rank that tho, asking for too much

[wild mural]

no cause they suck

there's no sliding scale

[unreal onyx]

what is that ranking even for

[clever path]

its bait

[ember apex]

DPS power rankings

[wild mural]

it's an entirely subjective thing

[unreal onyx]

I don't think it is possible to have a fully accurate "ranking"

[plucky ice]

made up term to troll warrior discord

[clever path]

^

real and true

[vague sand]

SPlit the ranking in two

[errant vessel]

Just make it up

[wild mural]

how much do you value someone who does high dps vs who does mechanics

[fickle bluff]

what the fuck is dps power and what is carlo yapping about this time

[wild mural]

we can't tell you that fuck

[plucky ice]

something new nobody thought about before

[errant vessel]

Best perf avg * survivability % on all pulls

[wild mural]

how in every metric in a dps power ranking I'd be on top

[plucky ice]

[unreal onyx]

making up a list with parameters based on essentially nothing

[fickle bluff]

"syi" "on top" idk bud

[brittle monolith]

anyone knows why some people are wearing SL leggos (rings specially)?

[fickle bluff]

they arent

not for anything relevant

[unreal onyx]

they started playing after quitting in SL

[wild mural]

bro I parse insane

[unreal onyx]

bad player, no heal

[plucky ice]

any tips for council other than get benched

actual garbage

[ember apex]

spell reflect on CD prob for the DR

[fickle bluff]

did they fix bear hitbox?

[wild mural]

we've gone from dps hps parses to healer dps parses

[ember apex]

idk i was benched for council lulw

[wild mural]

we're gone full meta

[wanton flower]

i did the unthinkable and swapped arms for that fight

[sterile stratus]

Disc DPS parses pog

[wild mural]

I'm so good

it's unreal

[plucky ice]

no

[wild mural]

oi

[sterile stratus]

Reroll windwalker so you don't have to worry about being benched or not, you'll just be benched

[wild mural]

I'm never benched

[sterile stratus]

Strats

[wild mural]

Im unbenchable

[unreal onyx]

[sterile stratus]

With disc parses like that I agree

[vague sand]

whoever makes the better jokes midfight is top dps

[wild mural]

I'm also the only warrior in EU "Rat Pack" on Stormscale

[vague sand]

very objective parameter

[unreal onyx]

lemme apply rq

[wild mural]

bet then I cna sleep

[sterile stratus]

Unironically this.

I'm a top parsing class clown

[unreal onyx]

only if you kill smoldy before us

[sterile stratus]

Can't bench that

[wild mural]

if only my parents were killing bosses during my birth they immediately win

[sterile stratus]

[vague sand]

"youve been shitting for 8 hours honey" pops a baby

warrior was born this day

ready to zug zug

[wild mural]

that's basically how I showed up

[forest owl]

poison 4 times on mythic council, not a single dispell, had to let it tick out, twice during cds i hate that boss with a passion.

[clever path]

yell at healers

idk

[forest owl]

like ranged being dispelled at will and your warrior sitting letting poison tick out 4 times total joke

[clever path]

maybe it works

never tried

[proven crane]

is eye of the rising flame any good over raven filigree?

[plucky ice]

use it instantly when you get it like a chad

[clever path]

necks?

[proven crane]

yea

[clever path]

depends on your gear

sim it

[ember apex]

bitter immunity would be good if it said "all negative status effects" and it worked on all debuffs

rn i dont think anyone takes it

[clever path]

i mean its not a bad defensive if you need one

which you shouldnt considering u are a fury warrior

[ember apex]

its not really a defensive its a reactionary ability

oh shit aff lock loaded me up w/ dots lemme get rid of this shit

[vague sand]

would you rate someone higher or lower if they had bitter immunity

[ember apex]

🤔

[clever path]

i mean what would you even drop

for bitter

[ember apex]

nuffin

cuz we aint takin it

until they buff it

to remove all negative status effects

[clever path]

it would either have to be pain and gain which is overall an hps loss but bitter might help u more

[ember apex]

we need a warrior rework

[clever path]

1 point off crushing force dps loss

not a big one but still

i mean i would never take bitter immunity unless it works very well on a boss

we dont need more survivability

[vague sand]

make warrior gain haste the lower the hp

below 30% they gain 20% leech

[clever path]

why

[vague sand]

u make them go brrrr

[edgy widget]

Hello socket my old friend...

[clever path]

the only spec i am sure is tankier than us is ret pala

[vague sand]

its that time into the season huh

[edgy widget]

I actually really enjoyed having it for prog in Vault, it's a nice extra emergency heal

but I won't go out of my way for it

[edgy widget]

it's been that time of the season for like 3 weeks for me xD

[vague sand]

oof

be strong young padawan

we are all getting leggo soon

[clever path]

i played it last patch a little for emergency healing but this season imo its complete overkill

[vague sand]

Soon™️

[clever path]

if im about to die everyone is already dead

[true harbor]

Wassup I dont know if its here where You ask for some help with dps. I dont know why my dps is very low I sim 107k in reality i cant get to 70k ST

[edgy widget]

I'm up to 8 BLP tokens!

2 Greater and 6 Lesser so far

[past pivot]

Sims show you what you could do under those paramaters, now what you should be doing. Mechanics, lag, etc.

[plucky ice]

2 greater 2 lesser ill never get it

[spare otter]

i got it on 2 greater and 2 lesser

[vague sand]

2 greater 0 lesser but I feel lucky this week

[ember apex]

i just use cheat death trinket

[past pivot]

Take solace in that those are likely visual panacea to soothe the masses

[haughty basin]

is fury good in M+ or raid more? i think i might play arms in M+ and fury in raid but not sure if its worth swapping

[fading bane]

they are both warrior specs

you dont lose anything to swap

[vague sand]

play whatever you enjoy the most

[ember apex]

whatever u play in raid is how u should gear ur char tho

[clever path]

fury suffers less from having to talent in both aoe and st

[glad coyote]

@edgy widget is there something we can check with a script to see what we've gotten so far?

[ember apex]

like if u play fury in raid ur ST sims should be fury

and u gear for fury imo

[vague sand]

fyi, I get better numbers as arms. Even with same ilvl fury warriors on the raid

[mossy fox]

i do not use rezan's in keys

[past pivot]

Yes. /tar legendary axe. If nothing shows up, you don't have it. Keep trying

[clever path]

crit do you have augury yet

[mossy fox]

no

[clever path]

[oblique trail]

misinformation has been spread

[rotund steppe]

use the gif

[fading bane]

nah critcake definetly runs rezan (i love gaslighting)

[ember apex]

i unironically also really enjoy gaslighting

[vague sand]

No he isnt, he;s running counterweight now

[ember apex]

i unironically also really enjoy running counterweight now

[past pivot]

yikes

If only it was good now

[vague sand]

its only not if you think about it

Never let the upper echelon of this discord command your will

RUN THAT COUNTERWEIGHT BRO

[clever path]

crit used brand and the iceburg one i believe for keys

[rotund steppe]

you hheared it people

vendor all ur othher trinkests

signet and counterweight

[clever path]

could be wrong on the brand part, but i know he runs the ocean

[balmy shore]

yay 17 runs just in time to kill smolderon

[oblique trail]

blue rock acquired

[spare otter]

17 runs

[balmy shore]

i just started actually trying for it over the weekend LOl

[spare otter]

gz man

im on like 50+ rn

[worldly shard]

Got the 489 1st vault is it our bis?

When healing parses be higher than dps

[past pivot]

No but it one of the best St

[clever path]

holy

only behind augury and signet

and signet if the fight is long enough

[soft merlin]

I would of needed to change my pants after that

[slate trout]

does anyone use wow analyzer?

[clever path]

healing

lmao

[oblique trail]

no

and you shouldn't either

[deep zinc]

Why not

[oblique trail]

Unless it's been updated, it'll tell you things that are worthless information

[frosty heron]

hey guys . i want to respec to fury since im arms and prot player . which is the best weapon combination . brh sword along with rise gorehowl ?

[slate trout]

its not updated for 10.2

yep

[oblique trail]

On paper sure, but weapon choices matter very little

[frosty heron]

as long as i respec the stats ?

t*

[true harbor]

@past pivot so what do i do when my dps is total dogshit no matter what i do ??

[oblique chasm]

I just want to escape the hell where I'm like 20-30 runs deep for hero track one

[oblique trail]

If you mean on the rest of you gear yes, the stats on weapons wont matter that much

[frosty heron]

still haste mastery cap ?

[oblique trail]

No

[frosty heron]

cause i see some post here doing vers

[oblique trail]

Correct

But

It's essentially just Mastery + Anything

[oblique chasm]

You need a sprinkle of haste, then you basically devour Mast/ver

[oblique trail]

Just do Top Gear sims and it'll usually veer into that eventually

[oblique chasm]

BUT SIM 😄

[frosty heron]

yea the thing is i dont have a off hand that's why im asking for weapon xD

i have ttot axe but it's haste crit so

[hardy fog]

So far my sims have sat me around 51% mastery. every time I go over that the sims immediately start leaning to more crit and verse.

[vague sand]

reroll rogue

[oblique trail]

Any weapon will suffice

[viral maple]

Criteria:
2H
Str

Go nuts

[oblique trail]

If you can farm Gorehowl, that's fine

[true harbor]

@vague sand i only play warrior since vanilla not interested in any other class in game AT ALL

[frosty heron]

okay might just farm rise lacking mastery since arms and prot are basicly crit haste xD

[oblique trail]

Gnarlroot is also a good option if you have next to no mastery

[compact knot]

4th week 3rd bis trinket, just looking for augury now kek

[viscid flare]

get a gorehowl for the sick demonbane damage in brh

[oblique trail]

yes very sick damage

[clever path]

nah this man has 1 m+ slot and gets might

i have 3 and get a socket

cba

[subtle lagoon]

I've realized that in this game you have to limit playtime and/or suck at the game to get good loot

[compact knot]

i was in panama so i only ran like 1

lmao

[frosty heron]

endless farming

[vague sand]

time to start simming

[hardy fog]

yeah the single vault slot feels disrespectful to me personally.

[compact knot]

i think i did 2

[true harbor]

@vague sand like i said i sim 107k on dummy cant get even 60k sustained

[vague sand]

what ilvl are you

[true harbor]

@vague sand 460

[hardy fog]

Keep in mind that the sims usually assume full raid buffs, including an augment rune and a lust.

[vague sand]

oh wow, what talents are you running?

[oblique trail]

Target dummy sims dont

[compact knot]

how tf u simming 107k dps in 460 ilvl gear

u doing somvthing wrong

[unreal onyx]

smoldy with might?

[vague sand]

even on full pvp gear you should be doing 150k minimum

[placid sable]

I'm 210k at 482 ilvl for reference dude

[hardy fog]

probably for the amp, but it feels bad because avatar doesnt line up until like the 4th dance.

[true harbor]

@compact knot problem is i cent get anywhere near that 107 cant get 60k sustained raid buffed

[vague sand]

I was doing 150k at 455 or so

[oblique trail]

You can game the balls so it'll align with your buffs

[turbid barn]

so did the buffs to Spiked Counterweight do anything for it? worth using it?

[hardy fog]

by running them to china?

[oblique trail]

yes

[compact knot]

your telling us this but not showing us anything so we legit cannot help you

[vague sand]

yu will never be exactly at your sim dps

[oblique trail]

Crit did a video for where he places them

[vague sand]

you can try getting as close as possible but u cant beat the computer

[true harbor]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/7k3tjFvDnwQg4Hza

[hardy fog]

honestly, I feel like I cba. Maybe on mythic prog ill care more, but its whatever. we aint there yet

[oblique trail]

Yeah on Norm/HC it'll fall over regardless of you gaming it or not

[balmy shore]

yea i think it'll be good because of the damage amps with our cd's

[true harbor]

@compact knot https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/7k3tjFvDnwQg4Hza logh from yesterday.

[balmy shore]

let me cook tho

[unreal onyx]

we're progging for the first day on it today too

[vague sand]

you gotta use Bloodthirst always

[unreal onyx]

and I think my signet + augury is the safer pick

but might also might be good

[vague sand]

rampage isnt the main dps ability anymore

[balmy shore]

i wanna try it tn i played signet aug on thursday but im curious

[oblique trail]

A lot of your damage is condensed in every intermission

[placid sable]

1 thing you can change in the build is the titanic rage choice node under Odin's fury

For single target

[vague sand]

also, youre actually on half pvp gear half wolrd quest gear?

[mossy fox]

[true harbor]

@vague sand came back to wow 1.5 week ago

[vague sand]

you dont have the set so T31 build wont give u any gains

[naive summit]

do u get less rewards if u afk the superbloom

[unreal onyx]

no

just do dmg at the end and you finish it

[oblique trail]

As long as the rest gets to 8k bloom you're fine

[vague sand]

I'd work on getting the set, you should have 3 charges now so you just need another piece from raid or pvp and that will be huge

[unreal onyx]

man I love the orb mechanic on smolderon

so fun

[viscid flare]

3x catalyst and then the token of mastery if you can get it is guaranteed

[ruby radish]

Is it worth it to do Fyrak on lower difficulties actually? I'm guessing for the ' bad luck' item drops?

[vague sand]

You have only 267 points of mastery damn, you got basically no dmg increase besides the base %

[unreal onyx]

no

[vague sand]

Yeah work on getting better gear and your dps will start increasing little by little

[true harbor]

@vague sand got gloves got 1 charge left so i can have 2s bonus next reset so next reset i should have 2 charges to us e if i had 2 charges this wek ye ??

[ornate gust]

I hate that fight. Our CDs aren’t aligned well with the fight

[vague sand]

next charge is in 2 weeks tho

[oblique chasm]

You should have 4 total charges ( after reset this week)

[true harbor]

i have 2

[oblique chasm]

Unless I'm being dumb

[vague sand]

I thought 3rd charge was this week

[quaint stag]

If you haven’t used them they stack. It’s 3rd charge this week

[oblique chasm]

third charge is this week

[vague sand]

4th in two weeks

[oblique chasm]

you're right

[quaint stag]

Or today if you’re NA

[oblique chasm]

3 charges + 2k = 4 set guaranteed

[ruby radish]

Not even for the embers?

[vague sand]

^

play 2s and get gear

[clever path]

yeah im finally getting my 4p today after getting shafted on tier

[true harbor]

this reset that is gotten gloves and got 1 more charge this reset iw tanked like 30m+ over weekend emm gotten some gloves necks ect nothing i could transform for second charge but should haev something from vault

[unreal onyx]

the embers of nm don't matter if you kill hc

killing fyrakk on the highest difficulty once is enough for the week

[ruby radish]

cool thanks @unreal onyx

[unreal onyx]

do I use CDs on pull

or hold to i1

[fading bane]

p3 👀

[vague sand]

Do 2s and get some gear

[oblique trail]

You Reck + Charge -> Rampage -> Avatar -> Spear on pull for Smolderon

Then hold 3rd OF for Intermission

[unreal onyx]

so use all on pull

[oblique trail]

This way you have everything aligned for intermission

[vague sand]

I'd do 2s, get some gear and build myself up to 7s or so to get champion gear and then use charges on those

Also, you have a hero track chest. Just use a charge on it

[quaint stag]

If you’re tanking to get fury gear then you need to set arms loot spec to get 2h weapons and dps trinkets

[past pivot]

Just 2handers. All else is the same

[vague sand]

chest and hands gives u 2pc

[true harbor]

@vague sand iw done normal raid m+ shitloads of solo arenas tghat im doing atm. so basically need better gear to start to do some dps correct ??

[clever path]

there are trinkets

[vague sand]

thats a good start

[clever path]

that dont drop with arms/fury loot spec

tank trinkets

[vague sand]

yeah

[gaunt delta]

Now I get killing fyrakk on heroic rolls for lower difficulties but it’s crazy to me that not killing the others first even for the greater ember is not the strat for a better chance or is it and I’m understanding it wrong?

[vague sand]

you got some good vault tomorrow I think? (Im US not EU, sorry)

[turbid barn]

so is the spiked counterweight worth using now?

[oblique trail]

no

There are still gonna be better trinkets

[past pivot]

You can kill it on Mythic or kill it on LFR then normal then heroic and thyen mythic and have the same chances either way

[oblique trail]

But for you specifically you can sim to compare if you already have it

[vague sand]

you get a charge on reset and if you get good tier out of one of the 15s or normal, grab it and use the other charge on a piece of gear

4pc is huge

[true harbor]

@vague sand ye tommorow is vault day but thats just 1 item hoping some tier will come up so i could get 3 set items this reset or 4s if i get another charge tomorrow

[vague sand]

you do get a charge tomorrow

so you can have 4pc tomorrow, that is huge

[turbid barn]

naw, i have a choice for picking a 480 Spike counterweight or a 473 Signet brand. currently using 470 rezan and 470 brand

[oblique trail]

That's a very easy Brand choice

[vague sand]

then start working on getting better gear for all other slots

[true harbor]

@vague sand thanks well ill see tomorrow after i get upgrades and see if that helps

[oblique trail]

Unless you want to first clear HC

Then pick after

[turbid barn]

yeah, it would be going champion brand to hero brand

[slate trout]

hm. I'm simming at 172 dungeon slice at 470

[frozen lake]

The items do nothing, the bad luck protection is added automatically based on kill on highest difficulty. Doing like lfr - normal - heroic does nothing for you

[slate trout]

is there a better way to sim that will be more representative of my dps during M+?

[oblique trail]

I'd recommend just simming Patchwerk 5 min 1 target

With a bit of personal thought and input on the trinkets

[vague sand]

godspeed brother 👍

[unreal onyx]

that leaves like 10s left on CDs in intermission

[clever path]

and just change trinkets

[unreal onyx]

I get them up pretty much exactly when buff runs out

[oblique trail]

Yes and then you place orbs far out

[unreal onyx]

so I go far

[oblique trail]

Crits video shows where to place them, otherwise some people have sent pictures

[unreal onyx]

and let them come in?

[oblique trail]

Yes

You delay picking them up

[mossy fox]

timer starts when you pick the first orb

[gaunt delta]

Does the timer reset when picking up a new orb?

[mossy fox]

no

[quiet bramble]

Sweet, socketed 473 ring beats 480 tier gloves for me for now.

[mossy fox]

as soon as you pick 1, get the rest asap

[slate trout]

hm ok im at 119k now

[vague sand]

how big are sockets?

[mossy fox]

pretty big

[vague sand]

dang

[clever path]

very

[oblique trail]

They're pretty big, but they're not worth more than well statted rings

[quaint stag]

I’d recommend checking https://u.gg/wow/fury/warrior/trinkets so that you can see what gear others use when choosing what gear to upgrade when you get drops

[vague sand]

got bis helmet but current one has a socket on

[oblique trail]

I got a socketed AD ring and it's worse than even a non-socketed DHT ring

[ashen escarp]

New toy.

[mossy fox]

thats why crafted rings are very good

[oblique trail]

The biggest part of crafted rings is flavour pocket

[mossy fox]

true

[unreal onyx]

real

[clever path]

real

[mossy fox]

banezi predict my vault

[vague sand]

I got champ track helmet with avoidance and socket

[unreal onyx]

I got crafted + myth igira ring and I think I will not replace them for the rest of the season

[oblique trail]

HC Augury drops

[vague sand]

i dont think ill replace it anytime soon

[oblique trail]

Or you get Myth track Might/Sockted DHT ring

[mossy fox]

impossible it's full mythic vault

[quiet bramble]

Haste ring is pretty good right, like the thorn band from the raid?

[unreal onyx]

sim

but most likely no

[mossy fox]

ok sounds good will report back tomorrow

[quiet bramble]

hmm, it's upgrading from a particularly weak ring plus socket that likely has it beating 20 ilvls on gloves. Didn't think haste would be weak for fury.

[unreal onyx]

it's not "weak"

it's just not as good as others

[vague sand]

I thought haste was good

My fingers think otherwise

[stiff bay]

think value falls off quite a bit after 25%?

[unreal onyx]

I have more vers than haste

[oblique trail]

This is why I tactically ask to be benched for 2 HC vaults

🧠

[slate trout]

yeah I read after 25 its mastery time

[clever path]

i have more vers than every other stat

[vague sand]

why is vers so huge for fury?

Im an arms boy

[clever path]

5.3k

6k with phial

[oblique trail]

You DR on other stats, and we have very strong damage proc trinkets this tier

[clever path]

• your damage kinda revolves around

[oblique trail]

On top of Vers just being very good in general

[clever path]

2p

[vague sand]

oh wow, gotcha

[storm rune]

Not me literally crying in VC "Just stack in a line, for the love of god"

[mossy fox]

yo maybe

maybe i get hc augury and fyralath from hc fyrakk

[clever path]

real

guaranteed drop

[oblique trail]

true possibility is there

but sorry I get legendary from vault tomorrow

[mossy fox]

damn

[clever path]

i get leggo from dream wardens weekly cache thingy

[vague sand]

Imagine getting leggo from superbloom

[unreal onyx]

what

noway you have more vers than mast

[clever path]

yes

its not that weird

[unreal onyx]

it kinda is

i've not seen anyone have more vers than mast so far

[clever path]

i have

[unreal onyx]

but if sim tells you to

%-wise I have twice the mastery than vers

[clever path]

i mean yeah obv im not thoerycrafting anything i just follow robot

[unreal onyx]

stat-wise I have 1.5k mast more than vers

[stark apex]

that seems wrong ngl, i doubt sims are telling you thats a good idea

[unreal onyx]

what is

[stark apex]

having 1.5k more vers than mast

[clever path]

im 25ish crit 31 haste 56 ish mastery and 30 vers nad i have like 1k more vers or something

[stark apex]

so you have 6.5k vers? about?

[naive summit]

as long as u are enraged and are not capping rage, is it optimal to hold onto rampage and press slam, bloodthirst, whirlwind(it it doesnt cap u)

[clever path]

no clue cant check

atm

[clever path]

ramp on cd

[stark apex]

you are massivly dr-ing vers, aint no way your sims are telling you to do that

[unreal onyx]

unbuffed?

[clever path]

cause not ramping doesnt let u bb

buffed

with vers phial

[oblique trail]

You can press BT before Rampaging but it's not worth to hold to press Slam or WW

[clever path]

and 2 hissing runes

[vague sand]

does BB stack?

[oblique trail]

No

[clever path]

i mean im running what robot says

[oblique trail]

If you Rampage back to back you lose 1 BB charge

[stark apex]

doubt

[vague sand]

then its ramp > BB

[clever path]

dring is completely irrelevant

[unreal onyx]

link sim

[quiet bramble]

alrighty, for better or worse the hero track ring beats myth track gloves in sims even at max upgrade

[stark apex]

show me a droptimizer 483 mythic dungeon loot

[clever path]

look at prot warrior

[oblique trail]

It's BB > Ramp

[stark apex]

i guarantee its telling you to get anything over vers

[vague sand]

well, I was coming from not BB but BT

mb

[compact knot]

can i kill lfr fyrakk and will it lock me out from heroic (lego drop im talking)

[stark apex]

thats not how that works, it is very relevant especially in a spec like fury where we are pretty close weights on all stats

[naive summit]

bet ty

[clever path]

i cant do anything atm but i as running droptimizer and its telling me to drop haste

for masteyr

not vers for anything

[clear light]

are gem better than myth track item?

[stark apex]

show a picture?

[clear light]

i did sim and it says nah

[clever path]

cant rn

[naive summit]

jw is there a reason why? like some tier set/talent interaction or is it simply more dam to press ramp when u can

[clever path]

will do it later

[errant vessel]

Haste just sucks this season for us

[clever path]

hell

mirror is simming really well with vers

iirc

[unreal onyx]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hwCTu79EmMSRYCp8eZ4ARE idk if that's representative but for my sims with less vers and more mastery it still prefers mast > vers

[clever path]

not saying it doesnt prefer mastery over vers im saying its not telling me to drop

[naive summit]

started gearing this warrior last week, we're getting there https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6kx8anJnhU9tFUnjbdmNL5

[clever path]

vers

its telling me to drop haste and crit and not vers

[stark apex]

what is your character name-realm

[quiet bramble]

if I were to make a crafted ring, what should I sim it as? Mast/Vers?

[acoustic furnace]

FUCKIN FINALLY GOT IT

[unreal onyx]

wtf is ember

[hardy shuttle]

either my sim broke, or the helm enchant is crazy https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/7iNC14V5PDpa3isax6heJ2

[errant vessel]

That’s a spicy ember though

I’d personally pick that

[acoustic furnace]

Ain't no way it sims higher than brand right?

[errant vessel]

On multitarget it does

[acoustic furnace]

Bc the vers i'd imagine

[stark apex]

helm enchant for me is 5.9k its pretty big

[errant vessel]

On st 5 mins or above it doesn’t I’d imagine

[acoustic furnace]

Well either way this is an absolute win I'm running shit tier trinkets rn

[errant vessel]

Yeah it’s 721 vers at 483 ilvl

Like 3.5% vers

[acoustic furnace]

welp time to run sims

[wild mural]

the amouranth helm?

bro got the amouranth helm

[vague sand]

lol

[acoustic furnace]

nah the pvp trinket for sure

[unreal onyx]

syi, good vault tomorrow?

[wild mural]

Yes, I bless your vault now

myth track rezans

[unreal onyx]

thank you, may you have a blessed vault too

I don't really need rezans

im set for trinkets for now

[wild mural]

I know where Im gonna get the best item in my vault, lemme show you

[unreal onyx]

I need boots or belt

or maybe a neck

[primal bane]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3T1o3XztvYUHSLyA7MiERq

jucied boys

[wild mural]

Im gonna get a great item in the middle slot

[acoustic furnace]

Is there a way to sim vault without having to gear compare every item individually?

[wild mural]

open it, /simc, top gear

[errant vessel]

Please fix this

[unreal onyx]

leech might

[wild mural]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-4095597578532971838

[wild mural]

[unreal onyx]

droptimizer

or just open vault and copy /simc

[acoustic furnace]

I don't get vault options in raidbots whenever I try this

[stark apex]

please just run some 18s to fix this brother, im begging

[wild mural]

noppe

[unreal onyx]

syi is built diff

[unreal onyx]

Angyu

[stark apex]

crying for your misfortune

[wild mural]

Angyu

[unreal onyx]

3x m+ + 2x myth raid + 1x hc raid

will I get smthn good? propably not

[wild mural]

true gamer vault

[naive summit]

yo is double roiling shadowflame troll or something? i want to run it instead of crafting vers bracers because my bracers have a socket on them, but i dont see anyone with double shadowflame

[stark apex]

thats me as well, its cooking until i get home

[unreal wasp]

bro what how you guys got these crazy sims and I am barely hitting over 200k??? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2DM8EfHLwTtExoQsjWZLWr

[primal bane]

i have leggo

[stark apex]

helm enchat + legendary + better trinkets

[wild mural]

actually, it even gets better

[primal bane]

no helm enchant

[restive peak]

I'm truly confused, augury clearly does more dmg than rezans+is better as soon as there's a 2nd target...is the sim for rezan/cata brand just ALWAYS high rolling?

[wild mural]

are you ready for the best vault

[unreal wasp]

Ok I was gonna say cause I thought I was doing something wrong lmao

[unreal onyx]

im simming 212k aswell

with 483

[quiet bramble]

anyone know the bonus id of max crafted gear this season?

[molten relic]

U can edit the ilvl in top gear sims

[stark apex]

209k at 481, no 489 weapons and normal track chest still would be very close to you - very unlucky (also no fucking signet have dropped in 4 weeks normal/heroic for my guild)

[molten relic]

Just use the plus sign over the item if u have one already

[quiet bramble]

for some reason it's only letting me recraft the stats, I don't have the ring yet

[wild mural]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/amMMmLAvYhbEMZyWuMGnet

[quiet bramble]

so I'm having to add manually

[molten relic]

I think gear compare works

[unreal onyx]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/t7F9HdKpakt2cNJkX6NiwL

[wild mural]

damnit I was gonna meme

[stark apex]

bro i swear i have the most cursed raid, how does everyone have signet, and not a single has dropped for our raid since week 1

[north edge]

i have same expeirence on my main

meanwhile my alt has 2 483 signets

[stark apex]

my chances are much lower in vault too since 2 mythic slots

[stark apex]

https://tenor.com/view/wheniwasolder-gif-20838458

[oblique trail]

Ask to be sat for 2x HC vaults if possible

[stark apex]

cant do that, im the only warrior

[oblique trail]

A peak vault would have 1x more HC vault

gg you know why

[eternal sundial]

killing council and i have mythc slot 😔

[oblique trail]

Now the most unfortunate thing would be killing Smolderon now within like 30 total pulls

And I get 2x Myth vaults

[eternal sundial]

easily

[wild mural]

easy

[eternal sundial]

syi u ce yet

[wild mural]

no

never

they question my power

they have no faith

[unreal onyx]

ceyi

[wild mural]

the faithless shall be purged

[unreal onyx]

we are clowning on smolderon prog rn

[wild mural]

I legit believe if my guild was 3 days we'd be on Tindral at this point

[stark apex]

wait are u running single minded fury?

[wild mural]

It's kinda my thing

It's my personality

outside of being a furry in denial

[past pivot]

small and underpowered

[stark apex]

whats your character name?

[wild mural]

Angyuwu-stormscale

[oblique trail]

@fading bane your Laro tech landed me on a rank 79

No WF though despairge..

[fading bane]

not bad

[stark apex]

its just a meme though none of these logs are smf

[snow edge]

What is Deattus secret tech

[stark apex]

scammer

[gaunt delta]

Share the tech

[unreal onyx]

[wild mural]

I'll reclear as smf

[oblique trail]

The tech is just reck + OF on pull, hold Ava + Roar for 1st adds

[stark apex]

bless up

[oblique trail]

Then hold CDs for every next add phase

[snow edge]

Ah cool

[gaunt delta]

Oh you mean you weren’t doing that?

[unreal onyx]

that'S what I did

[eternal sundial]

do what critical strike does bar send last cd set then

[unreal onyx]

and my log is shit

[eternal sundial]

[oblique trail]

well I was told of it before I started progging him

[wild mural]

except council

I'll do unspeakable things if I have to play council again

[oblique trail]

with our current kill time it actually was great for CDs even with holding

[unreal onyx]

fuck council

I got the helm

[oblique trail]

had 6:11 kill time

[unreal onyx]

bench me for the rest of the tier

[oblique trail]

I'd barely get use out of the last CD set if I didn't hold

[snow edge]

Banezi I can’t believe you weren’t doing it before progging him, noob

[oblique trail]

yeah sorry

[stark apex]

we had a 0.3% wipe on our first night because some fucker soaked the last puddle when pip was ulting so they could spam shadow word death

[gaunt delta]

Yeah need you to be more proactive

[clever path]

why cant i use other server emojis here 😦

[oblique trail]

To avoid questionable emotes being used

Easily anyway

[clever path]

i mean, a ban is a ban. i say we should be able to use them!

[fading bane]

3rd Tindral p3

[unreal onyx]

I don't

[fading bane]

boss goes crazy

[left perch]

“Let me be the master of my own destiny”

[eternal sundial]

our fuckin volcoross keeps being 5 seconds before i get my ava

so cringe

[gleaming crag]

😕 rude

[clever path]

yeah, dont wanna hurt someones feelings

[wild mural]

you just hurt mine

[wanton flower]

BRH neck has avoided me, but got Tindral neck in lil cache thing last week. guess its time to change all my gems & enchants
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/raUL1TawhxMLCEPjBfLciM

[unreal onyx]

I couldn't think of any emotes im missing in here

[wild mural]

I can

(for me)_

[unreal onyx]

some odd weeb emote?

[wild mural]

I have some sus emotes

[unreal onyx]

I can believe that

[fading bane]

i need :catscheme:

[clever path]

i have a good one, but i cant show yall! because it wont let me 😦

[wild mural]

I need :angy:

[oblique trail]

LOG IN

[vocal igloo]

does helm enchant only work in raid? attacking target dummy for 5mins no procs

[narrow narwhal]

:woo:

[unreal onyx]

[wild mural]

Im hungry, do I cook or order

[lavish abyss]

hello! oops, is this not the right place to ask SoD questions

[oblique trail]

It's not

[narrow narwhal]

Nitro havers always have my back

[oblique trail]

There's a pin in #mop-discussion that'll take you to a classic discord, it might have more on it

[fading bane]

https://discord.gg/RbCZJtw @lavish abyss

[wild mural]

help

[silent burrow]

[clever path]

always order, cooking is for brokies

[wild mural]

I got the gloves from Mechagon with leech on

[mossy fox]

I ordered

[wild mural]

that came with speed by default

[wild mural]

yoooo i gotta

crit when do we key

[unreal onyx]

world first no-heal +28 was done today I think

had a fury in it

new meta

[mossy fox]

good question im not sure

[stark apex]

my brother, what in the fuck are those, is that normal?

[wild mural]

and I struggled to heal a 17

[cosmic adder]

those pants have leech on them by default

which very amusingly can roll leech again

[eternal sundial]

they healed all but rezan but ye

[oblique trail]

Leather always gets the good things

[stark apex]

i want 800 leech pants

[oblique trail]

Plate never gets permanent tertiary items

gg

[sinful hawk]

I am seeing a lot of 220k sims and i am not even close to that, is my ST fury gear really just that bad?

[clever path]

gross, it had a dev voker in it

[sinful hawk]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/knKVUn2trHGBRSjaxh7ZnK

[primal bane]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/n7ENsQzF7rncGVxW38SpKm

got helm enchant

[clever path]

https://tenor.com/view/cartman-now-we-can-finally-play-the-game-gif-26486523

[unreal onyx]

in total I have 1093 leech atm

[wild mural]

mhm I ordered kfc

this pleases me

[unreal onyx]

12% leech gaming

I am invincible

[wild mural]

unvincible

[unreal onyx]

undeadable

[wild mural]

I never get shit

with tertiary

[cosmic adder]

[wild mural]

I have 13% leech on priest

[urban drum]

How long it take you?

[plucky wedge]

how bigs the helm enchant? in dps

[wild mural]

[upbeat blade]

approx 3%

[plucky wedge]

ty ty

[urban drum]

How long did the quest chain take to get helm enchant

[upbeat blade]

10 seconds, after you get all ephemera

[plucky ice]

int warrior big staff

[clever path]

crit is live!

[unreal onyx]

I wish I had leech on my 489 weap and not speed

[urban drum]

Where the hell is the quest giver lol

[clever path]

and int

[primal bane]

got it today in 3 LFR kills

[upbeat blade]

the same person you turn in the quest, in the raid

[gusty fiber]

Boys, i can't find any info on this talent choice. Odyn's fury: dancing blade or titanic rage?

[urban drum]

Bruh

[clever path]

[gaunt delta]

Sim it

[urban drum]

Ty

[oblique trail]

Dancing Blades

There are few select cases where Titanic will be better, for example Igira to further burst spears (if it's an actual issue)

Otherwise Dancing Blades will just always be better

[silent burrow]

DB enjoyers

[gusty fiber]

Thanks man

[hidden sinew]

what level keys drop heroic gear? im trying to farm the neck

well lowest key that will

[vague sand]

17

[unreal onyx]

17 iirc

[hidden sinew]

ty

[vague sand]

18s are about the same and u secure mythic track on vault tho

just an fyi

[clever path]

are are all 3 rogues specs top right now?

[cedar edge]

neck is simming turbo trash for me, tindral neck is best so far

[oblique trail]

It depends on your gear

For me rn the BRH neck is still the best

[acoustic furnace]

I run double shadowflame. Sims about 1k higher for me. Vers is nice too though bc you get damage and damage reduction from it.

[unreal onyx]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4gVzQoEi9JEvjbueYfD4ww

[restive peak]

1 more week til leggo bois

[spiral oasis]

[oblique trail]

Allied Wrists also increase your damage in every scenario, and not just on 1 target per Shadowflame proc

[astral path]

I also run double shadowflame

Eventually I’m going to craft allied wrists but before that I need to get flavour pocket ring

[unreal onyx]

489 brh sims lower than my hc tindral neck

[sudden tusk]

its better in full bis

but you need full bis for it to be bis

[unreal onyx]

im far from full bis

although I'm surprised catalyzed boots sim the best

better than vers/mast

[thin wing]

For m+ only should I go with haste legs embellishment or a shadowflame on like cloak?

[wind jackal]

why is lambent armor kit recommended over the fierce armor kit for fury?

[unreal onyx]

where is it recommended?

[inland flame]

Myth track Eye of Rezan in the bawks niceu

[wind jackal]

on wowhead and icy viens guide

[past pivot]

sim it

[unreal onyx]

for me it sims frosted always as best

[upper mica]

decisions need to be made!

[gaunt delta]

Brand

[meager gyro]

@silent burrow just heads up, if you catalyst those pants you lose the leech

[upper mica]

im thinking brand for ST raid

[past pivot]

You don't lose tertiaries

[iron portal]

if you cant make decision, uninstalling game is also an option

[sudden tusk]

that belt is the best you can get

tho its cringe to pick a belt

[meager gyro]

It's double tertiary because dawn gear, you lose the dawn specific one

[unreal onyx]

that is true

[upper mica]

this is true!

[upper mica]

true but i have belt at max just under it so im not convinces its a good choice lol

[sudden tusk]

depends on if you want short or long term

no wrong choice

[clever path]

any idea if spiked will be usable now or?

[molten relic]

Still bad

[upper mica]

brand is good for raid and tyr weeks mainly - you wouldnt use it in fort weeks would you

[unreal onyx]

very dependable on the dungeon + tank

[oblique trail]

You can still use it for Fortified

[unreal onyx]

if it's good in m+

[restive peak]

Brand is appearing to be much more mediocre than simming, tbh.

I've had it since week 1, shit never pops off, ever.

[oblique trail]

Yeah it seems very RNG

Like some pulls my LFR signet does omega damage

But the majority of the time its very flacid

[unreal onyx]

mine has also never really popped

augury pops waaaay harder it feels like

[restive peak]

I plan to run augury/rezans this week for reclear

See how it goes

[unreal onyx]

i will propably use might/augury for hc reclear

and then the usual for myth

idk if we extend, I kinda feel like it

[restive peak]

Ye we're not extending yet, Tindral still too rough

[quartz hare]

Is the first farak kill each week the only one that matter for axe drop?

[restive peak]

Highest kill

So yes if you do heroic, unless you're Liquid

[quartz hare]

Can you double by doing normal than heroic or should you aim to do heroic first?

[restive peak]

No

[true sapphire]

Heroic will automatically roll Normal, and now LFR, for you.

[molten relic]

I mean u can do normal then heroi but doing heroic only gives u the same chance

As doing both

[restive peak]

^

[neon nacelle]

Have I more drop rate if I kill Fyrakk NM and HC? for the leggo btw

?

[molten relic]

No

[frozen lake]

Are people really this dense

[true sapphire]

Third greater ember from LFR. Getting it thursday for sure.

[molten relic]

Heroic combines all your chances

[neon nacelle]

Okey

[molten relic]

From lower difficulties

[neon nacelle]

Ty guys

[molten relic]

Pretty sure embers are for the following week

Not same week

[neon nacelle]

What is the drop rate?

[molten relic]

Bc blizzard doesn’t want you doing all lower one’s first

[neon nacelle]

Does anyone know ?

[molten relic]

No

[oblique trail]

Blizzard knows

[neon nacelle]

Well, keep trying

[molten relic]

We’ll never know

[oblique trail]

You don't really need to know the drop rate either

Wont make it drop sooner for you

[frozen lake]

Kill the last boss on the highest difficulty you can, nothing else matters

[unreal onyx]

I know the odds

50/50

progress

[restive peak]

You got this dude

Helm enchant massive buff for killing him

[unreal onyx]

im at 38/50 rn

surely I will get it anyway

good quest design blizz

[wild mural]

Leech dn

[naive summit]

yo just realized this

but how important is it to rampage the same target

and maintain frenzy

[zenith moat]

Join a quick lfr and complete the quest

[unreal onyx]

but I cleared hc already

[zenith moat]

🤔

[ember apex]

dn?

[meager gyro]

did you get 10 this week, were you tracking by the week?

my NA and EU main both sitting at 40/50, but my alts are 32/50 34/50 etc

[restive peak]

We recleared normal bro and everyone got 4-5 per boss

I was at 40, had helm after igira

[ember apex]

God i forgot about that

u love normal mode

[zenith moat]

Its worth trying to see if lower dificulties will drop after you cleared hc

[oblique trail]

They said they'll increase the total cap of Ephemera to 60 this coming reset

So those who missed a few should get all 50 still

[left perch]

Deathnaker, it’s an old shadowlands leggo

[ember apex]

oh ok

[left perch]

No

You can try higher difficulties tho

[unreal onyx]

we cleared nm and hc since week 1

[restive peak]

It would've taken 1.5hrs potentially to clear heroic, we did to skip+tind/fyrakk on NM+HC in an hour

Everyone has helm

[zenith moat]

Cursed then kek

[unreal onyx]

such a easy design

but blizz still manages to fuck it up

"fixed"

[marble schooner]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/hxhfHxjffTevDCPckRqRtM

quickly grabbed myth track ring from vault and now realizing its not an upgrade hehe kms

[ember apex]

put in a ticket

"i want a second bonus / backup vault"

in case i pick the wrong thing again

[marble schooner]

thanks man imma do that

[ember apex]

alright sick

[gaunt delta]

Just put a ticket in saying you didn’t leggo from vault and you would just like them to put it in your inventory fully completed no crafting / quest required since you were inconvenienced

[ember apex]

that's asking too much

[woeful mantle]

anyone have a sscript for simming all the different wep runes?

[ember apex]

just settle for a 2nd backup vault

[gaunt delta]

Not sure why that was a reply but whatever

[ember apex]

/simc_all_weapon_runes

[ember apex]

im allowed to type

[gaunt delta]

Not you lol

[wild mural]

DEEZ

NUTZ

[fading bane]

inshallah

0 p3 pulls into 24% in one night

[wild mural]

Just kill it holy shit

[restive peak]

You got this bruh

Cannot wait to kill him

[fading bane]

we went from never making it past 1st seds in p3

to clearing the 3rd set

but died to flare bomb

[restive peak]

Noiceeeee

People gettin it though

[fading bane]

next week it dies with nerfs

[unreal onyx]

nerf smolderon

and im happy

[restive peak]

For sure

We kill this week 110%

[wild mural]

We kill tindral in 2026

Surely

[restive peak]

Dec 2025 brother you got it

[wild mural]

Yooo

[clever path]

before GTA 6 hopefully

[wild mural]

If not then there’s no chance

I’m gonna be playing that instead

[jovial summit]

does the helm enchant work outside of raid?

[unreal onyx]

should

[ashen socket]

I'm opening my shit in prot from now on

First good vault in months

[sudden tusk]

max ilvl might 😮

[naive summit]

anyone got a mouseover bloodbath/bloodthirst macro?

[oblique trail]

#showtooltip Bloodthirst
/cast [@mouseover, harm, nodead][harm,nodead] Bloodthirst

[stable star]

is there like a haste breakpoint we're after on fury?

[past pivot]

Yes. When sims says so

[stable star]

so there's no weird cd thing then?

[elfin oriole]

Question about stat prio for Furry, I see that our set bonus requires us to crit but crit is bottom prio and instead we focus on vers, is there a particular reason for that?

[dense elbow]

28% is one more GCD in your CDs, but dont worry about it, just go after what sims say

[olive wraith]

Might is on the prot table?!

[dense elbow]

Maybe?

[past pivot]

Furry only cares about good shampoo for long locks and less clumps

[unreal onyx]

make sure to brush every day

[stable star]

coolcool, was just wondering if there was some like "at 36.7% haste you get 4 casts during your odyn proc" or something like that that wouldn't sim correctly

most of the other classes seem to have stuff like that

[dense elbow]

At 120% haste, you start glitchin'

[stable star]

based

[hasty path]

https://tenor.com/view/my-brand-corsair-corsair-brand-corsair-gaming-corsair2020-gif-20131590

[past pivot]

Nah. I had almost 300% in Torghast and it rocked solid

[dense elbow]

In thorgast I remember reaching a point where animations didnt go

just dam

sounds went full haywire

[ember apex]

yeah the super long version

that shit was poggers

I miss it

[dense elbow]

Make thorgast great again

[unreal onyx]

torghast was never fun

[ember apex]

i loved torghast bro

[past pivot]

Many of our talents give us haste so we don't need it as much as from gear.

[true sapphire]

Torghast was fun until it wasn't

[dense elbow]

I enjoyed the crazy version of it :v

[past pivot]

Torghast was fun until it was mandatory

[oblique trail]

Torghast speed running is the only fun part of it

Sub 1:30 minute runs

[ember apex]

do u guys remember asmongold doing Torghast in the beta 72 Floors as a frost mage and soloing tarragrue on floor 72

before SL launched

that was a great video

[stable star]

man i really liked late shadowlands but everything to do with the maw was soooo cringe early xpac 😒

[ember apex]

the part about torghast that sucked was the boss rush version was impossible to solo past layer 4 or 5 because u didnt get enough powers to survive being chain casted on

[clever path]

or only certain classes being op in there

like shaman

[ember apex]

or brmMonk

[clever path]

yeah monk too

[ember apex]

i ended up doing a bunch of my runs w/ our brew tank on tuesday resets

both he and i liked it

[true sapphire]

"What will really make our players want to immerse themselves in this area...hmmmm...Oh, you can't mount! But you need to be there to unlock stuff."

[clever path]

walking around the maw was ass

[ember apex]

if u were engi it wasnt terrible

sry

it was terrible

but it was better than everyone else

except druids

who could mount

[clever path]

druid had an easy time lol

plus thats when they had there 4 second nightfae skill

forgot what its called

[midnight escarp]

lets gooooo

[quick hull]

Grats!

[ember apex]

omg

[dense elbow]

Gz

[ember apex]

wait

does it just drop like that?

i thought its some quest item

[midnight escarp]

apparently lol

[oblique trail]

yes it's pushed into your bags

[dense elbow]

Yep, personal

[midnight escarp]

you click it

[oblique trail]

when you kill it

[midnight escarp]

they bait you

[ember apex]

its not a quest item?

[midnight escarp]

you equip it them it turns into a quest item

[ember apex]

ah

[dense elbow]

Hey, enjoy axe Smeckel

[clever path]

now go spend some gold to get it