protection

[jagged pier]

tbh i tank slyv a lot in p3 i like the extra rage and li still charge around and intervene when collecting pools

so i rate it

[strong forum]

Since a) reflecting dots doesn't stack
b) it's not a reflect
3) opportunity cost too high

[sick sentinel]

healer died to wicked gash and endless torment i let shaman get nuked by melees

[distant crystal]

IV) wut

[strong forum]

Fife)????
Sex) profit

[sick sentinel]

i didn't TC or revenje cuz i charged in

just was som trash and he must have attacked before i figured to do aoe

[distant crystal]

We did a bunch of theory crafting on how to get our BDK to reduce the puddles the most

came up with a good plan then watched him butcher it constantly

[strong forum]

Bdk?

[distant crystal]

he won't get stacks from boss through AMZ

[sick sentinel]

Bad Death Knight, aka all of them

[strong forum]

Ya so it's already lmoa easy

[distant crystal]

err

AMS

[sick sentinel]

ams/z is big pimpin

[distant crystal]

so we were trying to like stack pain supp w/ amz for the uhh, arrow i think gives more stacks?

causee pain supp would make amz not fall off as quick

[sick sentinel]

u can weasel out of tons of shit with AMS i think its pretty much the reflect list

[strong forum]

Ams is better than reflect

[sick sentinel]

just, spell goes into nothing

[distant crystal]

but most pulls he just panic-pressed ams at some other time and we got full stacks kek

[woven bear]

but what about my original question 😄 Is there a WA that can show me custom text (as cooldowns) depending on bigwigs timers?

[strong forum]

Not depending on big wigs timers

But you can setup ert that way

Or well, MRT

[chilly brook]

Is AMS actually large enough to negate each stack?

[distant crystal]

it just straight evades the stacck if it's there

[chilly brook]

Yes as long as the shield holds

[distant crystal]

but it's also absorbing magic dmg from existing stacks and when the absorb runs out it's a goner

[sick sentinel]

i don't know the true depths of what you can do with AMS but guy i played with says it works on everything

[distant crystal]

ye

[sick sentinel]

we played in bfa

[strong forum]

There's also an addon from the details guy for raiding where you can setup custom text with ticking timers iirc

Very fancy

[chilly brook]

Plus the big magic hits of the arrows themselves

[distant crystal]

so like, you have to press it at a time when it will last just before some stacks go out, and stack it with personal/external dr

to give more time

I was actually meaning to look into the priority between diff absorbs

[sick sentinel]

spell reflect the "take 20% more dps for XY seconds" back to matron in WCM

[distant crystal]

like would cocoon be consumed before ams, or PW:S, or AMZ

[sick sentinel]

free tendies, just gotta know where they are and what to relect, im still bad at it

[distant crystal]

Doing torg on my warr for the first time this week, p disappointed how many things don't reflect

although it's prob still most things that do but i don't notice those

[blazing condor]

when the SR sound effect hits

[sick sentinel]

it almost never reflects aoe and volley (3 shadow bolts instead of 1)

[distant crystal]

true lol

pavlovian drool

[sick sentinel]

no, for me it's the icon above head

i love seeing the icon over head while its up

[chilly brook]

I believe it prioritizes AMS because of the magic effect negation portion of it

[sick sentinel]

there are weird stipulations about AMS, and i have literal zero idea how there spell steal thingy works

simulacrum

[distant crystal]

that doesn't exist anymore does it?

oh pvp talent

[teal swift]

afaik AMS takes priority. It also gives RP so feed them DKs kek

[teal swift]

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/outdoor-cats-are-using-500-starlink-satellite-dishes-as-self-heating-beds-180979401/

[woven bear]

Do you have some tips for tanking sylvanas on mythic? we are starting to get to p3 regularly and it's now time to end the fight. Which leggy/trinkets do you use and maybe tips in general?

[patent osprey]

aegis is busted on that fight to soak stacks 4 5 6 whenever u have to take a double. Use aegis often with its low cd.

Spell reflect is great for the tank hit paired with demo shout.

I use reprisal but u can use the wall. Both are great.

For your second trinket you can use old warrior soul for haste and rage or also just run cheat death trinket or scale.

[teal swift]

Youre going to have to wait for one of the big people.

hi @patent osprey im glad you came by, i feel bad when i cant help 😦

[dawn canyon]

The big boy prot warriors

[patent osprey]

^.^ we all can help, you even saying gotta wait for someone with exp makes people feel like they aren't ignored, which is more helpful than anything in a discord like this.

[patent osprey]

Also if your responsible for soaking the pools while having wailing arrow it is a great time to call an external CD before jumping like sac or Pain sup, and then use shield wall when u have high stacks on the way back

[woven bear]

@patent osprey which stacks are good to be soaked with aegis? The pools?

Or heathseekers?

I use it for the seekers and adds in p2 right now together with the warrior soul

[patent osprey]

I use it heartseekers

[woven bear]

I have some fear from having high stacks in p3 because its a magic dot

[teal swift]

Aegis effect works against each dot tick

(including stagger)

[woven bear]

Wow rly? I thought it works against melee hits from the front lol

[west walrus]

It works against any damage from front, and DoT

[woven bear]

Wow that's nice

How much time is between the banshes fury casts in p3?

Is aegis up everytime?

[west walrus]

As Heartseeker is both magic and physical, you actually absorb 6 times the amount from the trinket

• DoT from hearthseeker

[woven bear]

Yeah it works very nice for the seekers.

The seekers are brutal if you take them with only shield block

[west walrus]

SB + IP + spell reflection, you may tank it

[woven bear]

@Plka thanks btw :)

@west walrus yes that's what I do most of the time

And demo about if I'm near her

[west walrus]

:)

[woven bear]

*demo shout

@west walrus also thanks to you!

Maybe I just fail at this fight but I feel like warri is very average there as a tank. My Monk mate can just take the seekers and chill

[west walrus]

Matrix from Guardian is very useful too, but while you are learning, Splintered Heart of Al'ar might be your best friend

[woven bear]

I don't have the 2nd life

Matrix would be worth a try I guess

[west walrus]

Prot wars are fine, we just have less room for failures

[woven bear]

Yeah I guess but that doesn't help while learning the fight

[teal swift]

I'd argue prot warrior is the hardest sylv tank

[west walrus]

And yeah monks may have celestial brew for each hearthseeker x)

And save their trinkets :p

[woven bear]

I die way more than the monk tank in my guild and my raidlead thinks I'm a bad tank I guess

[mellow bridge]

prot warr is harder than the other classes on sylv but it's still completely fine

what is your job in p3?

you have a monk so I assume you are the boss tank?

[woven bear]

I start with the boss on platform 1 and he collects the pools on 3 and 4. We drop them, I take the wailing and we switch

[teal swift]

Yeah, All 6 are very viable

[mellow bridge]

and then he tanks her and you go and collect stuff?

i guess that works but eh

i think other way around is still better probably

[woven bear]

Why?

I'm open to ideas

Does she hit so hard?

[mellow bridge]

Monk is faster in collecting and has more access to defensives for it

we only really have SR and SW, IP is meh and we cant gen rage while collecting

meanwhile as a boss tank we are completely fine

but that's just my own exp with her, others may disagree idk

[woven bear]

Do you then also take the wailings and seekers

[ocean yoke]

We have it as our other tank (vdh) takes the arrow as we go over and i taunt once the arrow targets him, me taking the seekers there

[mellow bridge]

yes i did styx

but i didnt collect anything with the arrows since I was already at high stacks

you could probably let him taunt the arrow and collect and you just insta taunt back

we are completely fine in taking the heartseekers

[woven bear]

So you just collect your own platform?

Or don't you collect at all?

[mellow bridge]

idk how other guilds did it but we have a very clear difference in the boss tank and the soak tank

[ocean yoke]

we kinda have just winged the way we got it now, but yes im doing a lot of the collecting there, still somewhat split though

[mellow bridge]

as the boss tank I only collected right before veils, screams, etc

to create space

every other soaking, was the others tank job

[woven bear]

Okay

[mellow bridge]

you will already hit 10 stacks or close to it just via tanking her

except for platform 1 obv where you have to collect since the other tank is gone

[ocean yoke]

sounds about what we do, it works out fairly well

[mellow bridge]

and platform 4 is w/e since both tanks are there

so you just split jobs depending on who has cds

[woven bear]

And you let him taunt before the wailing and take her back after to get the ssekers?

[mellow bridge]

if we didnt sleep we did that

most of the time i had the arrow and just jumped over and took her back instantly lmao

[woven bear]

Lol

[ocean yoke]

big thing that helped me personally styx is dont be afraid to monopolize externals

[woven bear]

Lol I already call all of them haha

[ocean yoke]

you will be getting clapped for the majority of p3

[mellow bridge]

ehh

[woven bear]

Noone else does it xD

[mellow bridge]

you only get clapped at high stacks

like very first heartseeker combo

when you are at 0 stacks, you just press SB IP SR

nothing else

[woven bear]

But yes, that's a good tip for every warri tank @ocean yoke

[ocean yoke]

yeah maybe majority is an exaggeration just feels that way sometimes

[mellow bridge]

when I look at other pwarrs, they just overuse their shit

then from 3 stacks, the next combo you SB IP Demo

[woven bear]

I was in guilds where you couldn't call externals and that's not very nice in Mythic

[mellow bridge]

now youre at 6 stacks

if you cant get dispelled (e.g. veil still inc) you then want to use smth bigger for going from 6 to 9/10 stacks

like SW or Aegis

and then it should already be time to get dispelled

the only really hard part is platform 3

she will immediately double combo your ass into scream and veils into more combos

i always used aegis for the double combo since that was 7 stacks

during waiting for veil/scream you can ask for an external probably, then use another CD for the last combo

[woven bear]

We have 3 holy Palas and a holy priest as heals

[mellow bridge]

then get dispelled

[woven bear]

So I can mostly just call sacs

[mellow bridge]

well sac is insane

and the holy priest thing is good too for raw throughput

[woven bear]

Which thing? The angel?

[mellow bridge]

Yea

Guardian spirit I think?

[woven bear]

I'd like to have pain supp and the druid thingy

[mellow bridge]

And 3 pallys should mean you have several beacons on you for a lot of passive healing

Your comp is really fine

[woven bear]

Yeah doesn't feel bad

[mellow bridge]

Sac is basically as good as pain supp really since it's longer duration

[woven bear]

I get the externals instant that's very nice

[mellow bridge]

The issue I see most people have is

They use too much shit at low stacks

[woven bear]

Without externals its super hard in Mythic sod as prot

[mellow bridge]

And then don't have enough for high stacks and die

But you can legit just chill at low stacks

[mellow bridge]

You think so? Sylv is the only boss that hurts

[ocean yoke]

I definitely had to chill out on cds at low stacks, its gotten so much better since i worked that out

[mellow bridge]

Oh and I played reprisal + AM btw

[ocean yoke]

mostly just needed more p3 pulls to get used to it

[mellow bridge]

Idk what you're using

[woven bear]

Yes tbh

Reprisal and AM

[mellow bridge]

I think that's the best setup if you are the boss tank

If you continue being the soaker you should play wall

[woven bear]

ok

[mellow bridge]

Since SW is your only real CD for soaking

[woven bear]

I'll speak with my co tank

[mellow bridge]

You need that more often

[woven bear]

He's open for it I guess

[mellow bridge]

Cool cool

Sadly I haven't killed her on my warr in a while or else I'd send you a vod

Gone sadly

[woven bear]

Guardian Druid has way more cool CDs compared to us I feel

[mellow bridge]

Yeah but outside CDs we are more solid in general

It's just a trade-off

[woven bear]

How do you last stand usually? I feel like I don't use it very good

[mellow bridge]

On sylv?

I just use it as another CD for heartseekers

[woven bear]

In general not only sylv

I mostly use it as a heal

[mellow bridge]

Whenever I know smth hurts 🤷‍♂️

And if nothing hurts

For the rage

Especially in execute

[woven bear]

So you use it before critical phases to benefit from the bonus health?

[mellow bridge]

Ya pretty much

Bonus health is kind of like a DR effectively

[woven bear]

DR?

[mellow bridge]

Damage reduction

[woven bear]

Hmm without SB up I feel like a paper tank XD

Ah yes

[mellow bridge]

Yeah but you should have SB always up when it's relevant

Especially in raid

Or rather be close to it

[woven bear]

Yeah I try, mostly at 85+ %

But sometimes it just die if its not up because I'm waiting for charges or so. I must use charge more on bosses to get it up

[mellow bridge]

Yeah charge and intervene are very important

But most fights you have plenty of chances to use it

[woven bear]

Yeah I'm good with saving ab charges and intervene but I don't use charge when I'm tanking right now because I don't want to move the boss

But no problem on slyv she doesn't move anyways

[mellow bridge]

Most bosses have casts where you can move out and charge

And you can always charge before taunting

And you can leap - > charge when you are tanking and don't want to move him

[woven bear]

Yeah need to learn that

But sylv is the last boss I'll tank as a warri I guess

[ocean yoke]

lot of good times for sylv like end of arrows, after veil, end of fury

[woven bear]

Yep!

Thanks you all for your help

Time to go to bed now

[mellow bridge]

No problem

[woven bear]

It's good to know that I'm not the only warri who has troubles on her

[mellow bridge]

I've been killing her as a DH recently

With the same job

It's a joke how much easier it is 🤷‍♂️

[compact plinth]

(TBC) is 116 hit at lvl 66 good for tanking or I need more?

[teal swift]

#mop-discussion

@compact plinth

or ask in Fight club

[blazing condor]

i kinda miss Symbiosis that shit was kinda cool

i wasn't a pro gamer enough to know how broken that was though so there's probably a reason it got removed

but it was a cool concept

[sweet summit]

you're the reason external buffs are still in the game

[blazing condor]

@sweet summit

[sweet summit]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/753648516785635388/921101581884227584/catsay.gif

[blazing condor]

hol up im creating a soyjak right now

[sweet summit]

https://tenor.com/view/tomato-sad-emotional-frown-unhappy-gif-8158178

[teal swift]

Gn

[ocean reef]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898720803586048/902116733463179314/image0-107.gif

[teal swift]

[ocean reef]

Soyjak on dn

[teal swift]

Wtf is this shit

[blazing condor]

i dont have discord black mode so it is just gray until hovered over

[teal swift]

Click the darkmode button 10-15 times on mobile

To open up amoled mode

[ocean reef]

[sweet summit]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898720803586048/902116733463179314/image0-107.gif

[blazing condor]

📮

[sweet summit]

[mortal brook]

nice image

[blazing condor]

https://tenor.com/view/punch-punching-laptop-rage-smashing-screen-gif-17930159

no flies on my pc

[mortal brook]

mines full of files D:

[ionic fern]

Should be a bannable offense.

[ocean reef]

You got the power Mwahi

It's up to you to exact said power should you see fit

[blazing condor]

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-star-wars-emperor-do-it-go-for-it-gif-17446081

[sick sentinel]

https://youtu.be/4eWmr6w0JjM

Based bald man and whoever the guy who he's reacting to is

Only have to watch first 3:20 and nothing I can disagree with so far

[mortal brook]

i can just not come back if you dont wanna see me

[ionic fern]

No, you are always welcome here.

[sick sentinel]

As long as you guys won't ban me for occasionally trying to do nexrolord and rare iv into keys I'm not too bothered

[blazing condor]

if that was the case you would get banned for all of the other unholy things you do as a tank instead

[mortal brook]

🫂

[sick sentinel]

Like what level of armor kit?

[blazing condor]

nah just wasting rage and giving back and all that shit

the actual tanking

[sick sentinel]

I didn't log it but it seems like I did more dps this dungeon run could have been just the last fight but had me as 5.7k

Only a 12 sd

I'll have to look at blocked hits and whatever, was a few close times where I got down to less than 15% hp and have to iv to live, we timed it though

[blazing condor]

[sweet summit]

:dandersoo

[blazing condor]

[sweet summit]

[strong forum]

[blazing condor]

Holy

Microsoft bidding 67 billion dollars for activision blizzard

Its happening

[sweet summit]

damn are u still using internet explorer or

[blazing condor]

Time zones idiot

[sweet summit]

AHAHAHA

[modern brook]

Damn Microsoft bidding 67 billion dollars for Activision blizzard

[jagged pier]

not gunna make it any better

[blazing condor]

Maybe they’ll shut down the game

[sweet summit]

poga

[jagged pier]

🙏

[strong forum]

Damn Microsoft bidding 67 billion dollars for Activision blizzard

[blazing condor]

Lmao nome u use le internet edge???

🤓🤓

[sweet summit]

[strong forum]

[jagged pier]

[blazing condor]

King rat

[jagged pier]

how does dandy have 3 emotes and i dont even have 1

[sweet summit]

first of all you're not dandy danderson the great

[jagged pier]

i mean true

[ionic fern]

I think at this point it's more like this comment sums up:

[jagged pier]

[ionic fern]

Imagine Doom guy showing up, smacking Jailer and then walking away leading to a nice new expansion.

[jagged pier]

🙏

[ionic fern]

Wonder if it will be added to GamePass. 👀

Cause i'm fairly sure the current sub model will be reworked/integrated with it somehow.

[jagged pier]

ooo that would be pog

can get game pass then

[sick sentinel]

where, troll

[ionic fern]

Literally everywhere.

[ionic fern]

I already have it.

[jagged pier]

[sick sentinel]

I for one welcome our new Xbox overlords

[honest plinth]

Guuuys

Damn Microsoft bidding 67 billion dollars for Activision blizzard

[sick sentinel]

Horde and alliance colors didn't think about that

I would love to see horde and alliance branded Xbox controllers

The blue ones a bit shit and the face button needs 1 replacement

[strong forum]

Well you can make your controller look like whatever you want

There's companies that do that stuff

[sick sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWCxZgkqwNc

say what you will about 10 year old racial slur andies on xbox live, very true, but their controllers are on point

[cosmic pasture]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Gzj0f9SrBs

[fading dirge]

TLDR: Drop our logs from last night and looking for tips to get over the 20 hump more effectively.
This is my third mythic+ season and I was just a KSM healer from the other two. So first time tanking and leading a push group. But i feel like I could be doing better. So I was hoping for some finer points on what I could do better as the tank to get over this level 20 hump. Really enjoying pushing keys as a tank and I want to push higher and get my team all their portals as well.

[jagged pier]

low blocked hits
wasted far to much rage

your using a bad conduit over our best conduit

u cast SW 5 times in 35 mins

could have had like 10 useages

low LS casts

your running repsial yet intervened 8 times

in the entire dungeon

[modern brook]

idk this version of activision blizzard is easy 4 me but i have microsoft bidding 67 billion dollars and whenever i play wow i just sort of zone out like im not in my body and im just playing my character on auto pilot or something dodging mechanics and doing big dam its pretty crazy but thats just who i am

[jagged pier]

u cast aegis 9 times in 35 mins

its a 1:30 min cd

press your buttons

[fading dirge]

Am I looking at block% wrong, or is 80% low? Im scrolling over hits on melee under damage taken.

[jagged pier]

u have 71%

which is extremely low for repisal and HR

u should be at 100%

ez

u can get 85% with repisal alone

[fading dirge]

awesome, pull head out of ass and use my defensives more. gonna make a couple UI changes to help build a better habit. Thank you!

[jagged pier]

i was only looking at your NW run there

u have a lot to work on

but focus on your SB uptime first

well effective uptime

u definatly need to intervene more

also u should be using spear on CD u used it 26 times it has like a 45 sec cd

u should also replace brutal vitality with unvering focus

[fading dirge]

sounds good, this would explain my hump. thanks again

[jagged pier]

once u have like 95% blocked hits then u need to work on your wasted rage

[modern brook]

Way lower on priority of giving a shit - but does Zed even do anytihng

I feel like the leech socket would be more useful wrt to life gain

[fading dirge]

I thought about just dropping the fifth dom socket on my 239 chest to just run a 252 mythic+ chest since I wont get the raid one currrently.

[modern brook]

I would recomend that personally

but like i said thats like miniscule min max garbage

Jakey's advice will help you push into the mid 20s

[fading dirge]

yeah, those play style mistakes are obviously what I need to focus on

[modern brook]

your routing can be ballsier too

You split pull 12 and 13 in DoS19

which was Varruth -> elderhorns

[lime urchin]

ballsier, nice

[modern brook]

you can do those together; by some stroke of luck you found 3 dps that are actually playing the game

and all 3 of them want fatty pulls

[fading dirge]

yeah Im having to babysit my dps, they dont watch health bars on bolstering so our other night was bad

[modern brook]

woulda saved you like 30~ seconds in that

Im like 90% sure LTs cant be bolstered

[fading dirge]

oh your saying pull LT into the first big pack? Could probably swing that if I fix my defensive buttons

[modern brook]

the 2nd big pack, but yes

[fading dirge]

kk might try that this week since there is no bolstering

[modern brook]

A lot of higher keys also skip most of mechagon

and make up the % in arden

IDK when that really becomes relevent/necessary

but just something to consider

Similar thing in your HoA

you do incinerator w/o the grounds keepers and oros ->oblits

[fading dirge]

everyone in my team, this is there first time pushing over KSM. so we take a lot of avoidable deaths. We plan to start using skip routes next season. but right now we are just trying to step up our personal games

[modern brook]

you can easilly grab those together

You can comfortably W key though the low 20s

but its around this point you want to start thinking about your routing with regards to your cooldowns and such

and you're seeing that in your timers

[fading dirge]

yeah we have started making route updates to reduce the amount of 1 target pulls and improve combat uptime for my frost mages ice veins. So Ill have to revamp some more smaller pulls

[modern brook]

Pulling into LTs will help with that alot

[fading dirge]

kk, this is why mythic+ has become so fun is figuring out these puzzles to get to the next step of the leg.

[modern brook]

If you can record a run its often easier to identify mistakes than through logs as well

esp if you can ask about certain pulls etc

[fading dirge]

Yeah I have started to stream some of our keys so I can go back and review them.

need to do it more

[haughty lance]

Squadov is rly nice for that too

[sick sentinel]

2016

didn't watch

[haughty lance]

Can quickly flip to different people's povs if multiple people are running it

[sick sentinel]

and xbox controlers do have a tedency to have shitty sticks but they literal get worn down because of actual mechanics

and its not an easy fix, outside of get a new one or repair it with tools and solder and stuff

[teal swift]

@jagged pier @strong forum @sweet summit @blazing condor morning! 90 minute sleep gang today

[sweet summit]

[strong forum]

yeah nah

go back to bed

[teal swift]

Doctor appointment

[strong forum]

this is a threat

unluck

[teal swift]

I'ma prolly go to bed when I get home

[ionic fern]

[blazing condor]

Morning

[teal swift]

:)

[fading dirge]

never heard of it, I will have to look that up. thanks

[steel mist]

so our new overllords is MICRASOFTA

game pass anyone for 9.99

[teal swift]

Game pass mount

[sick sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnB1TgxgwEA

[blazing condor]

Vaccine Pass to queue LFG

[steel mist]

halo theme armor

pog mog

[jagged pier]

OMG GUYS!!!!! Microsoft bidding 67 billion dollars for Activision blizzard

[mighty valley]

DAE microsoft buy blizzz?? hearing about this??

[tropic linden]

What?!?!?! Microsoft bought Blizzz?

No waaaaayyyy

[strange socket]

Hey fellas, whats the best Leggo for Raid Tanking? Is it The Wall, or Unbreakable Will

[jagged pier]

Reprisal

[strange socket]

For Raid?

[jagged pier]

Yes

Always has been always will be

Well since its update

[tropic linden]

Where is that video teaching how to use reprisal in raid?

[chilly brook]

Reprisal and then Wall on certain fights like The Eye or Sylvanas

[tropic linden]

Not in the pins

[chilly brook]

It's on Jakeys youtube

go sub to Jakeyplops

😛

I don't actually know if it's on his youtube or not tbh just plugging

But all you need to know on how to use reprisal is two fold

[tropic linden]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNrx_TNv1No&ab_channel=Jakeyplops

Found it

Thanks

[chilly brook]

1. you can run out and charge back in on casts or certain animation locks
2. charge in before you tank swap

[tropic linden]

Run out and charge back and fuck ur raid

Move boss, smoke crack, YOLO

[jagged pier]

Well that was around how reprisal was good on sludge but the info tracks to any boss

I mean take slyv any time she windrunners she doesnt move so u cna move out and charge without moving the boss

I have an unlisted where i just leap and charge back and the boss doesnt move

[teal swift]

You walk away and charge

It's quite simple

[chilly brook]

75% of the time she doesn't move to begin with

[jagged pier]

Well true

But sometimes she does just randomly follow u

[chilly brook]

ye

Horrible boss btw

[jagged pier]

So for saftey i just charge during windrunner u dont need it outside of that anyways

Also thats a PSA for everyone not using repisal u should still charge weave

[chilly brook]

^

free rage

[woven laurel]

question: are we even going to be close to on par with other tanks or are we going fall behind alot next patch

[lime urchin]

Yes

[jagged pier]

We are on par now

[blazing condor]

Next patch tho

[woven laurel]

yeah not denying we are on par now i just feel like some of the tier sets like brew or blood are significantly better than ours

[jagged pier]

[lime urchin]

Yes but they don’t have revenj so

[tropic linden]

Why run bolster and not HR if i don't have reprisal?

Don't HR gives u more SB uptime?

[jagged pier]

HR is only good because of reprisal it literally fills the gaps reprisal leaves

Getting an odd 1 second of SB isnt worth it

[tropic linden]

So when do i LS if running bolster? Always on CD when i don't have more SB?

[plush tendon]

Bolster is also a sick talent which I wished we used more.... just competing with AM and HR

[jagged pier]

If u run bolster u should be using LS on cd

[plush tendon]

basically, when both SB charges are down and you dont have SB up, you Last stand

at least how I remember it

its been so long

[jagged pier]

Well yer but u want to also use it as much as possible

[plush tendon]

for sure

[tropic linden]

gearing an alt and want more gear b4 spamming thorg

[plush tendon]

I remember the rotation being like SB,SB,SB, Last Stand, SB, SB which gave you really good uptime

since the 15 seconds of last stand would help with recharge

[sick sentinel]

i can still remember 9.0 TW + 3 3/1 1 2 2 3 3 talents

[modern brook]

why are we using bolster?

[jagged pier]

U did not run UF with TW

[tropic linden]

only if u don't have reprisal

[modern brook]

i still run AM + Wall in 2022

[tropic linden]

Do u have SW every pull?

[modern brook]

nah i run baby keys so ~ every other

[jagged pier]

Wall and AM is fine in raid btw

Bolster if for m+ or like really heavy block fights

[sick sentinel]

something close to this was the normal i recall in 9.0

cuz i know i had to do rav and dev like today

[jagged pier]

But generally your fine in raid with AM

[modern brook]

is that not just the normal now but with bolster instead of am

[jagged pier]

Yer i mixed UF and rav around because i dont do the numbers but that was normal for 9.0

Regarless of content or leggo

[sick sentinel]

i just press buttons

[dawn canyon]

You dont press revenj enough

[sick sentinel]

renvenje on E maybe, reflect is on it now

i also bound shift 1234 and removed binds for numpad 4123; shift numbers is far more effective but i don't want to do ctrls and alts really

[blazing condor]

I have revenge on E

[distant crystal]

I have it on 1

[sick sentinel]

REEEEEEEvenge

[distant crystal]

Even back in BFA when you barely pressed it, still 1

[modern brook]

correct

[blazing condor]

I have rav > ss > revenj > tc > sb > ip > sr > avatar > victory rush > shockwave > charge

As my left to right on bottom row

Obv with different binds tho

[distant crystal]

he's current scuffed binds

[modern brook]

R is not an interrupotbutton smh

S1 is not an interrupt button either

😦

[distant crystal]

r is interrupt on every char

[modern brook]

SMH it has to be F

[sick sentinel]

go ahead and roast me

[ionic fern]

Why?

Keybinds are personal.

ALl we roast is your gameplay.

[modern brook]

U gotta pay respects to the spell you're kicking

cant do that with S1

[distant crystal]

I press F to pay respects to the mob that I'm taunting

ez

[modern brook]

smh

Taunt is Z

[ivory elbow]

put everything at 1 to 0

[sick sentinel]

this and its closest key to WASD that isn't Q or E aka something your hitting literal every second

[modern brook]

cause u can sleep on things

[ivory elbow]

and then alt 1 to 0

[sick sentinel]

T for Taunt

[ivory elbow]

[distant crystal]

just noticed that I have disenchant keybound

that seems a lil superfluous

[modern brook]

kek

[sick sentinel]

X for scatter (mass fear or something, i learned this from command and conquer, yes really)

[modern brook]

high key you were probably just disenchanting like your entire bags inbetween expacs

and decided clicking it was getting toxic

[sick sentinel]

like as in, i hit this button and it should scatter enemies away from group

[distant crystal]

On my real enchanter I have it bound to a button that's not visible

on '

[sick sentinel]

C for clear or control character, H for Heal ability

[blazing condor]

Keybinds is just a million% personal

And has no impact on gameplay

[ionic fern]

Well, i also still got Devastate bound so.

😂

[modern brook]

lmao

[blazing condor]

U mean Devastate 🙂

[modern brook]

yeah but my personal preference is objectively correct

[blazing condor]

why

why bull

[sick sentinel]

QZ and V for movement, Q and Z would jetpack up and down in dukenukem 3d or fly up down in 6DoF games

[modern brook]

🇺🇸 because i say it with conviction 🇺🇸

[blazing condor]

Based

[sick sentinel]

mouse up for trinket, mouse down for execute middle for kyrian potion or some defensive

G is a stun but i don't have a word to go with it

[blazing condor]

All those keybinds and still no KSM

[sick sentinel]

It is what it is, and that's not very much, but its like that, and thats the way it is

[blazing condor]

winner mentality

[tropic linden]

Can't wait for the new KSM mount

Maybe will be blue this time

So excited

[sick sentinel]

Money is the key to end all your woes, but its like that and thats the way it is

[ionic fern]

?

[sick sentinel]

run DMC tricky

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-O5IHVhWj0

[distant crystal]

idk, keybinds affect gameplay a lot, and some are objectively bad

but relearning is hard so i'm keeping my objectively bad binds

[modern brook]

i mean honestly

[blazing condor]

Eh

You can literally make anything work

[modern brook]

The only Bad binds i ever saw

was one time a person had all their utility on 1-0

[blazing condor]

Worst case just click and you can still do any content

[distant crystal]

Like there's spells you need to cast while moving that are bound to buttons you'd press with the same finger as strafe

that's bad

[modern brook]

and then used the right bar to click their rotation

[blazing condor]

Just dont strafe

[modern brook]

rebind strafe to ur gamer mouse

[blazing condor]

Honestly i should do that

[modern brook]

please dont

[distant crystal]

JPC uses Z/X for strafing

[blazing condor]

I dont strafe as is now

[distant crystal]

and has no bind for forward/backward

lol

[blazing condor]

Except for last boss in NW

[modern brook]

i use QE for strafing

like some kind of monster

[blazing condor]

Thats default shit tho

Nothing wrong with that

Id do that

[distant crystal]

W forward S backward A strafe left D strafe right

[sick sentinel]

ESDF movement ppl: W T F

[blazing condor]

Unless people rebind A/D for that

[modern brook]

it lets me choke up higher like i do in Starcraft

[distant crystal]

unbind turn keys them shits are useless and prime keyboard real estate

[sick sentinel]

i know its a thing and i respect it just broh wtf

[modern brook]

gives you better controll of the square

esp cause space is a useless button

[sick sentinel]

ESDF would drive me nuts

mavis beacon taught mt correct typing with home row excersizes

i was looking into doing xbox controller a few months ago, but i wasn't able to bind 100% of the buttons and combinations so i gave up

also that it was too many buttons and combinations to remember for a controller

it works in alot of ways, but it also doesn't in alot of ways

[blazing condor]

no comment

[sick sentinel]

im sorry but having to remember to hold a trigger a bumper and then press some other face button is too much, combined with that not all of the buttons and combinations can be bound (left trigger was one)

like saying that you'd want to use both hands cuz game controllers and the switch, psp, gameboy all designed for 2 hands

[modern brook]

id rather just use a mkb

[blazing condor]

nah i prefer doing goofy shit and making the game a million times harder for myself for no reason

[sick sentinel]

it wasn't 200% dumb but it was 199% dumb

[blazing condor]

literally tell me one benefit of playing wow with an xbox controller

[sick sentinel]

you play a spec that has less than 10 main buttons including CDs

[blazing condor]

doesnt answer the question but go off

obviously compared to using kbm

[sick sentinel]

well, if controller was so bad, we'd have dis-invented them by now right

instead MORE things becoming like a controller or tv remote

[wild hemlock]

holy shit lol

[stark sage]

generally movement is better on a controller

but that's about it

[sick sentinel]

i just think if that something clearly sucks badly enough that it will just get filtered out over time because enough poeple decide its shit and move on from it

[blazing condor]

each thing has its own place. You play a racing game with controllers sure. But you wouldn't play an mmorpg with one. Same way you wouldnt use skis in a skateboard ramp

life isnt black and white

obviously controllers are good but why tf would you play wow with it

[sick sentinel]

clearly not the case if they using controllers in 1980 and still now in my eyes, i don't think superior

i think, just has it's time and place, and some people gravitate towards them anyway

[blazing condor]

yes thats what i said 🙂

[stark sage]

a lot of people play ff14 with a controller
not that those people are sane, but saying the proverbial 'you' wouldn't play an MMO with one has some evidence against it

[blazing condor]

okay

sane people wouldnt

[mellow bridge]

just thinking about having to manage 30+ keybinds on a controler

and aiming ground effect spells

monkaS

[stark sage]

yeah they'd need support for ground targetted effects at the very least

[lofty widget]

are @ target macros a thing?

[modern brook]

Hang on I need to be right back

[stark sage]

no

@heavy mirage or @cursor

[modern brook]

https://youtu.be/bACyyrzOwEg

Closest I could find

[blazing condor]

i mean

thats like

this

[sick sentinel]

i had one of those

i had it for xbox 360 as well, got the 1 year of xbox live, a mic and the chat pad for like 50 bucks

100$ + seperately at that time my currency

those chat pads are literal BIS

not even a joke, dead serious, actaul life savers

[blazing condor]

redudant for playing wow tho

just play with the normal controller

[sick sentinel]

you can still hook up a KB to xbox, dunno about mouse

probably>?

[chilly brook]

It is also built with that in mind though

[sick sentinel]

it was made for ps3/4 correct?

so, that would have to check out

[chilly brook]

But also, Desmesphisto or w/e his name is did KSM at the start of SL with a controller soooo

[blazing condor]

As said you CAN have any binds you want and still do content

[sick sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsVtZEicTj8

[blazing condor]

but why make it hard for yourself if you're already bad

[stark sage]

yeah, idk what this convo is about
i'm assuming with the microsoft acquisition, the possibility of making wow crossplatform would come with some infrastructure to make the game functional on controller

[sick sentinel]

just type your rotation bor

[chilly brook]

Oh most definitely

[chilly brook]

People do this all the time in the name of comfort

I still know and raid with clickers

[blazing condor]

clicking can be 100% fine if the people are okay

same with anything

[sick sentinel]

some people don't know any better, some just want to see if they can

[chilly brook]

yes but outside of the adjustment period it does make the game "harder" than keybinding

[blazing condor]

yeah for sure

no disagreement on that

so obviously youd have to hit a point where it doesnt work out anymore

and then reevaluate

that is if you care at all

[sick sentinel]

You can lead horse to water but you can't make it drink right

[blazing condor]

you got that right

[wooden radish]

@ionic fern fellow xbox gamer

[ionic fern]

[wild hemlock]

you have learned alot in this discord. case closed folks

[teal swift]

Within reason

I already push the envelope with my alt + shift + 1-4

[urban portal]

what about that black guy

who plays frostmage with a ps4 controller

and dances during council intermission

think hes aotc

[blazing condor]

Yeah

goes to show you can make anything work as long as you apply yourself and are a good enough player

then again, obviously, he's gimping himself

[jagged pier]

hes a full role player he actually plays the char like he danced because that what the char was doing

but like fury forst is like 4 buttons

so u can use a controller for it

there was a guy in season 1 who did KSM witha controller as fury

[urban portal]

Think the only problem is fresh meat

Or prio hitting something

And that wow turning is cringe

[blazing condor]

:borpaSpin:

[teal swift]

Doesn't he use a wand and like roleplay mage stuff?

[teal swift]

Tbf you could prolly 3 man ksm

[jagged pier]

[teal swift]

Could probably heal really easily tho

[blazing condor]

im sure you could 3 pwarr ksm

its just base 15s

[teal swift]

Ye

Well maybe

[blazing condor]

tyr weeks would be a bit tougher cus of boss hp

[teal swift]

We should all make Vulpera bdks

[blazing condor]

but you can always pull large with 3 pwarr

[teal swift]

And 5 man all portals

[jagged pier]

depends on the week

if u can drag trash on boss its fine

[blazing condor]

yeah tru

1st boss in mots tho 🤢

[chilly brook]

Tell me why Bobby looks like Jonah Hill in 10 years

[jagged pier]

we got there

[chilly brook]

Bring a demo lock ez pz

[blazing condor]

3 pwarr only

[rain bone]

Hey. I'm a filthy horde player. Orc tank. Wanting to get back into classic but have been part of so many guilds that fall apart, I've lost interest in the game all most all together. Need to get a sub again, but I need some help getting back into it and training if anyone is willing to take time to help me out. I never did ssc or tk at all, I need to get gear for it but to work on my profession's. Please shoot me a dm. I'm on whitemane, but will transfer if needed.

[chilly brook]

#vanilla-discussion

[blazing condor]

Like Griff said you're better off looking in #vanilla-discussion i have no idea about how to play there

[rain bone]

I posted in there too. Might do tbc chat as well

[humble tendon]

guyz between an item from m+ 252 and 239 hc with dom sock with both stats that some1 needs which is better?and if u use one dom as prot which one is ideal? Thanks

[sweet summit]

if 5th gem use 252, if the 239 enables the use of bek/cor/kyr/dyz then use that

[urban portal]

Yeah you only need 4

Do tanks actually use bek

I feel like bek feels pretty bad for tanks

[sweet summit]

kyr bis defensively cor prob bis offensively

[urban portal]

I usually use the drain one

[sweet summit]

nah bek good

dps gain

[urban portal]

The unholy drain is like 100 hps or something

[sweet summit]

[blazing condor]

Bek is good especially for us pwarrs

we dont really fluctuate too much with our HP

steady mitigations

[urban portal]

Ye execute too

[sweet summit]

ye

[urban portal]

But so cringe on vdh

[sweet summit]

zed decent 5th shard

[urban portal]

When mobs are at around like 40 or so on vdh

You need to boogie

Vdh cringe

Prot war based

[sweet summit]

📏 📠 🙅 🧢

[blazing condor]

🚫

[humble tendon]

i do not raid only m+ so set pointles to me. still 239 or 252?

[urban portal]

like we said

do you actually have a good shard to put in that slot

[humble tendon]

i have all in bank

not used

[urban portal]

what do you have currently slotted

if you have nothing then 100% the dom socket

[sick sentinel]

how do you guys feel about todays news roughly 12 hours in

[urban portal]

nothing changes

for us

[sick sentinel]

i'm 1/4 listening to asmon as i do mundane tasks in wow

[humble tendon]

atm i use 246 from m+

[urban portal]

a M&A doesnt fundamentally affect the operations of the company until years or even decades later

[humble tendon]

and i thought if 239 with a dom is better for my m+ runs

[urban portal]

it is

[humble tendon]

thanks

best choic ebek?

[chilly brook]

Likely correct, but with how vocal spencer has been on the whole activision-blizzard stuff one can hope for disruptive changes in the structure and culture of the company even if it probably won't happen

[humble tendon]

and also between a246 ilvl with haste item and 252 withoutu haste i go with ilvl or haste?

[blazing condor]

ilvl > haste

[mellow bridge]

If its a piece with mainstat you go for the ilvl

[humble tendon]

ok thanks a lot

[teal swift]

You sim it 100% of the time.

@humble tendon

[humble tendon]

true 🙂

[distant crystal]

you want 4 shards for m+

replying to oooold chat

[sick sentinel]

sure if you got em but they are going away 9.2basically, power crept out rather

[waxen orbit]

That’s a feelsgoodman moment right there

[urban portal]

Clean

Necrotic week too

That's alpha

[teal swift]

[modern brook]

gz

[teal swift]

We didn't kill tonight 70k damage off.

[urban portal]

cringe game man

[teal swift]

Eh I don't mind, my cotank can hold threat now!

[simple pier]

Any prot bois looking for a raiding guild in 9.2?

[ionic fern]

Yes.
But #promotion if you're trying to recruit.

[simple pier]

Oh I forgot that exists, thanks

[jagged pier]

LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[ionic fern]

GOT EM

Gz.

[jagged pier]

rng praised me today

🙏

[blazing condor]

Grats dude

[sweet summit]

:yejoice:

[teal swift]

Big grats Jakey, even bigger hugs

[jagged pier]

🤗

[blazing condor]

Now u got like 255 ilvl or some

[jagged pier]

i had that already

[blazing condor]

[jagged pier]

i just dont have jaithys or guardian belt but the guardian belt is like a side grade so that doesnt relly matter

[blazing condor]

me neither dw 🙂

[sweet summit]

🙂

[teal swift]

Jakey being Chad as usual

[teal swift]

Yuzu wants many hugs from her friends.

[ionic fern]

[teal swift]

[tropic linden]

The best rings combination would be Haste+Vers and Vers+Haste or Haste+Vers and Haste+Crit?

[jagged pier]

high haste any other stat on both

[tropic linden]

Thanks

[blazing condor]

haste haste

[sick sentinel]

I keep forgetting that female protection warrior exists

Could be that I'm boomer

[mellow bridge]

what

LMAO?

[blazing condor]

woman??? playing video game???? w aht!!!

[sweet summit]

[blazing condor]

rare emote

[sweet summit]

miss marok

[sick sentinel]

I dunno just 90% of time I did dungeons or raids in past was men play the tank, most girls I knew on wowhate playing tank

[dawn canyon]

woman??? playing video game???? w aht!!! /s

Everyone can play every role just fine

[lime urchin]

Did you just assume a gender?

[sick sentinel]

I assumed my own gender

[teal swift]

Bold move

[sick sentinel]

Respec wahmen

Like pewds

[blazing condor]

👊

[strong forum]

https://tenor.com/view/umm-confused-blinking-okay-white-guy-blinking-gif-7513882

What a thing to tune in to

[teal swift]

Hi Nome

🤗

[strong forum]

Hi

[tropic linden]

anyone watched asmond video on Bliz-Microsoft? 33 min is too long

[blazing condor]

watched the first like 5m or so before my lecture started

[ionic fern]

Why would i watch Asmons videos in the first place?

[tropic linden]

Cause he influences a lot of ppl, is good to know what he thinks even if u disagree IMO

[ionic fern]

🤔

Doesn't bother me what others think.

[tropic linden]

yeah, i just like to know haha

[sick sentinel]

i clearly aint got anything else better to do, so i watch asmon and play wow and then talk about those 2 things non stop

go figure lol

[blazing condor]

no job?

[sick sentinel]

eh, in short yeah, it is what it is

[blazing condor]

fair

[teal swift]

Gn friends

[sick sentinel]

no job, nothing better to do, i'm fatter lazier asmongold without the twitch channel and money

[blazing condor]

gn

[sick sentinel]

just some idiot asshole trying to get by

[sweet summit]

gn

[blazing condor]

arent we all

[sick sentinel]

in a sense, wow does it pretty good too, but i learned alot about myself through playing violent edgy FPS games

not something i could condense and pass on to someone else directly, and its that jordan peterson clip "well its you, you've got the problem" type things, it exist in everyone

[strong forum]

Why are we here

Just to suffer

[blazing condor]

Every day i wake up

[strong forum]

Hate when that happens

[tropic linden]

Hey, why prot dmg in raid is so low and in mythic one of the highests?

[blazing condor]

[strong forum]

Cuz our rotation consists mostly of aoe buttons

And the frequent access to aoe buttons

Paired with the tuning of said buttons

But also, in m+ we're not that high, vdh and brew do more dmg

Pally does about the same dmg

It's only bear and bdk that do less dmg in m+ than us

[blazing condor]

Bear

[sick sentinel]

i very much like groups that can benefit from my battleshout, but warlock is very tempting class to take always

they are just way too versatile to not take

dots or bolts, summons tank/cc adds and SS/healthstone, gate whats not to like?

[jagged pier]

its a warlock they bitches

[outer solstice]

regarding the glory legendary, doe sthe extension of duration also works on our allies? or only on ourselves?

[ionic fern]

Only yourself.

[outer solstice]

ty

would've been so broken otherwise xD still looking forward to trying it in 9.2 😛

[tropic linden]

but is 400 mastery that good?

[ionic fern]

It's ok.

Extra 4 RPS tho.

🙂

[sick sentinel]

warlock invalidates priest if he uses imp

only way i like priests is if they have PI and it goes on me (this is hyperbolic), just not fan of aborsb and long single target casts, no armor

[mellow bridge]

mastery isnt an insane stat but getting 400 of any stat is pretty strong

• with the conduit you have pretty big perma strength bonus

what is it again, like 20% at max rank?

[sweet summit]

ya

[sick sentinel]

which tree is going to become default for necro

[sweet summit]

20 at max current rank

[mellow bridge]

and I feel like necro soulbinds are pretty good overall too tbh

[sick sentinel]

and whats the thing we are going to pair with it or just reprisal again and fill for niche cases

[mellow bridge]

obv Mikanikos is really nice in aoe with the haste and cdr

but necro soulbinds are just overall good

[mellow bridge]

yeah just reprisal again

the legendary is just too good

[sick sentinel]

yeah which of the 3 conduits are u guna default for NL

[sweet summit]

VR, AAF and Ashen/SoF

[mellow bridge]

do you mean which soulbind yogi?

either marileth or heirmir i think

emeni looks kinda meh?

[sick sentinel]

well there are 3 "trees" per cov

[mellow bridge]

yea soulbinds

not conduits

[sweet summit]

pretty sure you just run marileth everywhere at this point?

not 100% sure

[outer solstice]

enemi seems better for M+

[sweet summit]

definitely in raid at least

[mellow bridge]

i thought heirmir is more st dmg for raid

but I havent checked tbh

[sick sentinel]

1 pegalos, 2 kliea, 3 mik, so on so forth, this is something i pick up from doom, episode 2 map 1 > e2m1 > 2-1, mario as well, so apply it to talents, etc

anything its applicable to

[sweet summit]

kevin kinda owns ngl

[mellow bridge]

maybe in low keys where you can keep the haste buff rolling

seems kinda bad for high keys

[outer solstice]

more talking about the aie pustles with the shield

should be nice for pickup

but yeah if the haste drops off enemi gets way worse

[mellow bridge]

yea but you cant just look at one trait

you gotta look at the whole thing

and emeni traits are just kinda meh imo

Marileth is pretty sexy tho ngl

[sick sentinel]

that waking bone breastplate looks good

100% up time 5% hp m+

[sweet summit]

ooz + kevin

[outer solstice]

tbh that's pretty meh, you give up a defensive conduit for it

but yeah kevin is fun

[sick sentinel]

ultimate form probably OP now for us

[sweet summit]

not really

it's nice

nothing major

CC immunity is kinda niche

[mellow bridge]

the heal is okay

[jagged pier]

painsmith

🙏

[sweet summit]

ye

[sick sentinel]

while moving is nice but it is in a bad tree

makes a lot of sense if you try it

[uncut walrus]

hello, new to discord so idk what exactly to do here but does anyone know where i can find a good prot warrior build for classic tbc

[sick sentinel]

#vanilla-discussion #mop-discussion

[uncut walrus]

ty

[mellow bridge]

or head to the fight club discord

that's for warr in classic/tbc

[waxen orbit]

Necro in M+ still finna be mid as hell

Kyrian/NF really the only competitors for M+ content

[plush tendon]

After having spear or AA for so long.... why would you ever want banner

[sweet summit]

simp

[plush tendon]

at some point, I hope spear/AA become talents or just spear becomes baseline for warriors

[sweet summit]

i could see spear replacing something like dragon roar

that'd be cool i guess

[plush tendon]

100%

Throwing a spear is pretty warrior like

[west walrus]

I hope reprisal becomes baseline

[plush tendon]

naw, make AM baseline and put reprisal where AM was

and the last fix, include talent that lets Prot Warriors wield 2h in 1 hand so I can have a spear and shield 😄

[odd ivy]

I'm just starting to play prot, what happens if you overlap shield block? Do you lose duration?

[west walrus]

Make Gladiator comes back :D

[plush tendon]

you can have a maximum duration on SB of 18 seconds

so, if you double press SB for instance, you dont lose any duration for doing so

[odd ivy]

How about ignore pain?

[west walrus]

I hope they remove the cap

[strong forum]

Stacks to x2 of its cast value

Duration doesn't increase

[odd ivy]

Cool, so in M+ what would be an standard opener? Sometimes I feel like I have too much rage and sometimes I feel like I don't have enough

[west walrus]

Do you have reprisal ?

[odd ivy]

Yes

Had to blow some stupid research to get it

[strong forum]

Treat IP as a defensive rage dump

Dont think too hard about capping IP

Just avoid capping rage, keep up SB for blockable dmg

[odd ivy]

Would you say there's any rage threshold to start dumping rage?

[strong forum]

80 at the latest

[odd ivy]

Cool, that helps a lot

[strong forum]

The important thing is

Don't use too much rage if you want to use SB soon

There's nothing worse than pressing revenge/IP just before SB comes back up and you're unable to press it (in high m+ especially)

Proper reprisal management mitigates that issue, but it is a thing

[odd ivy]

Yeah, I've started to get better about having some rage to use when sb is about to come back up

[strong forum]

Pwar is all about generating as much rage as you can without wasting it, everything ties together

And that gets only further emphasised in 9.2

[odd ivy]

I thought it was all about slamming my shield

[strong forum]

Well, that's what it means essentially

Using SS to get more rage, to then get means to reset SS again to get more rage

👍

[sick sentinel]

delete menacer talent, replace with reprisal