protection

[austere wedge]

Check pins

[crystal iris]

Well thats why im asking because this seems to suggest that the wall + bolster is the go-to for raid

[strong forum]

Says AM on my screen

And it also says that you can play both wall and reprisal in raid

Doesn't specifically mention which one is better

So idk chief

[austere wedge]

I raided mythic with reprisal so i guess it works

[strong forum]

Reprisal is better

Just harder

[austere wedge]

You just gotta figure out how to take advantage of mechanics, like at sludgefist at roar if you jump before the spell u get far enough to charge in and proc leggo

[strong forum]

Sludge is omega perfect for reprisal

Charge on every stomp

On every roar

Intervene on every chain slam and after pillar

Literally perfect

[austere wedge]

Yes, loved it there

Anyway i’m hyped about the m+ affix and new raid. Hope it won’t be disappointing

[crystal iris]

true

and whats the deal with it suggesting bolster for M+?

Dont you already have super high SB uptime with reprisal so you would run AM?

[strong forum]

If you are to run wall

You play Bolster in m+

Or if you run seismic

You also want bolster

Hence the "/"

[crystal iris]

Im blind

[austere wedge]

I’ve also done kinda high keys only with reprisal so idk man

To be fair prot warr feels so tanky u can run any talents as long as u have SB uptime

[strong forum]

Yes you wouldn't do high keys without reprisal

Although plka has done up to 24s with seismic

[austere wedge]

Except for some high magical damage dungeons where u gotta rely on your group to cc and interrupt

[strong forum]

Even there, reprisal is generally the best pick

But it's not illegal to run wall or seismic if you're comfortable

[austere wedge]

The wall feels lazy 👀

[strong forum]

It is

[blazing condor]

The wall with HR/ITF

Ultimate lazy build

[austere wedge]

Reprisal makes it flashy af

[livid totem]

For some reason, Reprisal reminds me of DH... >_<

[austere wedge]

The audacity…

[plush tendon]

The absolute disrespect

[strong forum]

Absolute blasphemy

[austere wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/how-dare-you-greta-thunberg-gif-15130785

[livid totem]

Hey, you said "flashy af", and what else can you think of ? Go fight me

[austere wedge]

I can think of leap out charge in or nf blink out charge in, intervene out charge in. Not jumping around with a winged fucker

[jagged pier]

it was only boots if u could get SLG mythic legs

otherwise it was always legs

[jagged pier]

u dont intervene out and charge in thats wasting revengj

[blazing condor]

^

[austere wedge]

Sometimes it’s just fun to do

[blazing condor]

No revenju no lifeu

[warped wren]

question . so if i allrdy lvl my kyrian cov to 40 and am currently got my NF up to 40 aswell so .. if i wanna swap back to kyrian do it restrict me in anyway ?

[jagged pier]

wasting dps in fun 🤔

[junior igloo]

No, but you will have to wait for a weekly reset to finish the swap back

[jagged pier]

well if your gunna raid slyvannas drops boots and legs have higher stats so in general its better to have them on legs in 9.1

legs still give slightly more stat

[plush tendon]

Legs are still better

[junior igloo]

Then legs still have more stats

[plush tendon]

more stats

unless you dont want more stats

[warped wren]

so it would make sense to do it today ? as am playing EU

[junior igloo]

Yeah, you can still do it today, you will have to finish a quest (2 dungeons or some amount of rares/world quests in the zone).
That way you get the second quest tomorrow and you are finished

[jagged pier]

well yes because legs leggo will give u more main stat than boots

[fringe marten]

then what..craft a rank 4+ lego of reprisal in another slot for a few weeks only to replace the leggings with ultimately higher ilevel reprisal legs later AGAIN anyway?

todays chest won't have 250 gear in it anyway

er vault

[crystal iris]

neither will next weeks..

[fringe marten]

yeah it's season 1 until next weeks reset right? then when raid launches it's S2

[jagged pier]

18

in time

it drops key lvl by 3 well in the past it did but in the past u always dropped a key lvl now if u finish a key in time u get the same lvl

so 18 should give u a 15

but thats not confirmed

[crystal iris]

Are the storming nerfs active yet?

Think we can all agree fuck storming

[blazing condor]

Storming gonna be nice now

[jagged pier]

storming with reprisal

[blazing condor]

You can just soak them

Last boss hoa you could get fucked on soaks

[jagged pier]

what is the storming change?

[blazing condor]

They move slower, only clockwise and disappear when touched

iirc

[jagged pier]

am soak them all

[blazing condor]

exactly

Call me Aang cus i be in control of those winds

[crystal iris]

But is it active yet or not until next week/season?

[blazing condor]

I mean

storming isnt for a few weeks

[crystal iris]

isnt it this week?

[blazing condor]

It’ll be in by then probbaly

Next is raging explosive

[crystal iris]

this week is Fortified, Bursting, Storming, Prideful i thought

[blazing condor]

https://wowaffixes.info/

[crystal iris]

interesting. Raider IO bot in my guild discord must be mixed up

[dark lark]

Should be Tyr Explosive Raging I'm wrong

[blazing condor]

What is it then?

Then they mustve changed for the patch

[mellow bridge]

they said they'd change some affix combos

but not which ones or how

[blazing condor]

Keepin us on our toes

[dark lark]

It is indeed Fort Storming Bursting Pride

[blazing condor]

Well then

[crystal iris]

Aha!

[blazing condor]

Weird how they did that

2 fort weeks in a row

But who am i to question the purpose

[mellow bridge]

that's the first s2 affix combo?

[dark lark]

It's this week's

I dunno what r.io or the new in game score will show it for

Since it's still Prideful

[mellow bridge]

huh

it should be a tyra week now tho

[blazing condor]

We got one more week of s1

[strong mulch]

Would anyone be able to offer some tips/specs for increasing my damage output and threat while leveling by tanking dungeon grind?

[mellow bridge]

yea

so what affixes are up in NA rn

[dark lark]

That's what I have

[mellow bridge]

that's so weird tho

two fortified weeks in a row

[blazing condor]

Fuck it

Remix

[strong mulch]

Oh I think I'm lost

Where's the tbc class discord? Woops

[blazing condor]

You can check #mop-discussion

See if they got any tips : D

[cinder nova]

I got...
226 Ritual Bone Band (148 Vers/68 Mast)
226 Spare Meat Hook
226 Anima Field Emitter

Currently I have...
226 Phial, Scale, Heart, Wing, and Decanter

Current rings are...
Ritualist's Treasured Ring (49 Crit/166 Haste)
Arachnid Cipher Ring (123 Crit/82 Haste)

At face-value this looks like a dead vault.

Thoughts?

[graceful finch]

Somebody knows if it's the right moment to swap covenants ?

[fiery pendant]

Is it nerfed storming?

Or is that not in yet

[blazing condor]

Id say take AFE

[cinder nova]

Only thing I can think of that would be worth a damn is the ring for a Vers set.

Doesn't AFE do less DPS than Phial/Wing? 🤔 When would I ever use it?

[blazing condor]

Probably tbh

Its a good inbetween

If you want defensive and offensive

[modern brook]

Rings better than stylish tbh

Stygia*

Dead box imo

[cinder nova]

If I want that I'll just put on my BSS. Crits for 22K ST and ~7.5K in cleave.

Yeah, AFE is lower than BSS.

I can't gripe.

I've had fruitful GVs the entirety of 9.0

So one final GV being dead is like

whatever

I forgot I already had a 220 of the ring

But it had a socket

So

womp womp

[mellow bridge]

have you simmed the spare meat hook for st?

[obtuse monolith]

Sim seems to love Spare Meat Hook but the dot seems like less damage than running Phial. And it’s pure Single Target damage compared to something w proc or on-demand stats

[mellow bridge]

well yea it would only be a choice for some pure ST fights

where you dont need a surv trinket

[median tulip]

I'd take either the AFE or the ring; I have both at 226 and they are excellent

[mellow bridge]

more useful than a bit of stygia now imo

idk why he would take that ring tbh

AFE is okay but it has no useful case that his other trinkets dont already cover

[median tulip]

I'm vers whoring

[mellow bridge]

why would you do that

[mellow bridge]

imo you take meat hook because it's the only thing that you will actually situationally use going forward

it's not bad to have that option

AFE doesnt add anything, the ring is worse and stygia is kinda useless besides having a bit over 2k for the new socket removal item

but you get stygia in korthia anyways too

[median tulip]

Because I have 26% Haste as it is and I want more Vers

[mellow bridge]

but it's your choice

26% haste isnt anything special tho

[obtuse monolith]

Vers is for “brb bio” during a +15. There, use case

[mellow bridge]

more haste will serve you better than going for vers

[median tulip]

I would totally replace the Arachnid Cypher Ring he has with the Ritual Bone Band

[trail brook]

What soulbind would you use for m+ as venthyr?

Im running draven with 3 defensive thingys dont know if im doing right

[obtuse monolith]

Are you raiding as Fury with Nadjia? Her haste is good for prot too but your fury conduits aren’t the best unless you swap out and swap in

That’s why I tank w Draven too

[mellow bridge]

Draven pretty useless

You'd do nadija

Assuming you don't need the tree for another spec

[median tulip]

Nadjia or Draven. Draven is more defensive, but more static and therefore works better with The Wall for situations where you are going for static boss tanking. Nadjia is more offensive, mobile, but if you're offspec DPS ever then your DPS spec wants to use her.

[trail brook]

Y, im raiding as dps thats why cant nadja

[digital arch]

is kirian the best for protection ?

At this patch?

[mellow bridge]

Kyrian >= nf

[digital arch]

and for arms?

[mellow bridge]

Dunno

But you know we have a FAQ channel

You could just read that

[amber herald]

I don't think it's up to date for 9.1

[mellow bridge]

Or read the pins in arms

Yea I guess the channel itself isn't updated, but the arms guides are

[crude tartan]

Reprisal on legs still this patch?

[stark sage]

yeah

sylv has boots

[crude tartan]

tyty

[faint nebula]

For raiding, Kyrian > Necro ?

[tardy osprey]

ok Bron is a bad ass, ❤️ the changes

[topaz dragon]

Cant wait for bron

Vault issue fixed?

[subtle island]

Best cov for 9.1? Been on holiday for 2 weeks - any big news?

[lofty widget]

pins have been updated with all the new 9.1 stuff

[pastel sleet]

Wait is bron the move now?

He did nothin in 9.0

[opaque quest]

You guys already playing 9.1? Feelsbad to be european

[cinder nova]

I wanna swap back to Kyrian, but I'm worried that Blizz will do a tuning pass and fuck me up

[mellow bridge]

@pastel sleet bron got some nice changes to how he works

[tardy osprey]

other than Condemn being less than ideal for Prot, the covenants are in a pretty decent place it seems for Pwar

[mellow bridge]

And the final trait is insane once we get it

[cinder nova]

"Insane"

That's uh... yeah, maybe not for prot on Venth

[grizzled forge]

So we still Pelagos till a certain unlock or switch now?

For kyrians that is

[limpid pawn]

is it safe to open vault yet

or is it bugged still?

[ebon geyser]

i think is off

deactivated

[limpid pawn]

the vault itself is off?

[fierce field]

Bron still sucks for how he works 😦

Thanks for showing up as everything dies Bron...

[barren socket]

veiled market is next week right?

[grand drum]

yes, all new instance related things are next week

[modern brook]

New torghast seems fun :(

[limpid pawn]

should we be multibox questing if we have multiple accts

or is there a quest-skipping mechanism for alts

[late cloak]

there is a skip

[limpid pawn]

is it available right now for alts

[late cloak]

i finished main campaign on war and skipped intro right to korthia on pally

[limpid pawn]

what part of korthia do they bring oyu into

chapter 3 of campaign or something?

[late cloak]

yea

[short kiln]

did the hotfix today for Bron make him slower than expected for him to be top end soulbind?

[chilly brook]

So uhh @ionic fern @strong forum @sweet summit might wanna peep this

Something something holy priest + AM is bugged

[fringe marten]

Holy crap...I may have soft locked myself on the new questline?

You go to do the quest for the eye of the jailer; then a valkyr wants to take you to bolvar..but I left her to go grab the last few souls I needed for the 20 souls quest. She disappeared, bolvar won't talk to me..quest is not abandonable in journal.

?! can't talk to bolvar..can't progress.

[sweet summit]

is that on bloodprice or all the time

@chilly brook

[chilly brook]

Any symbol of hope

[sweet summit]

oh

[chilly brook]

from holy priest

[sweet summit]

any other cooldowns

from other classes?

[chilly brook]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/560228184587632643/859634834796576778/Screen_Shot_2021-06-29_at_9.png

[sweet summit]

whats the intended cdr

[fringe marten]

Yup...after you deal with the eye of the jailer, make SURE you talk to the valkyr and fly to Bolvar. I'm soft locked from progressing the questline now.

[chilly brook]

From Symbols? 60 seconds

[sweet summit]

epic

cooldown hack

[limpid pawn]

how are they doing that shield wall thing?

[chilly brook]

That was me

And like I said

Holy Priest Symbols of Hope seems to be buggy with AM

[sweet summit]

@chilly brook when are EU servers up REEEEEEE

[chilly brook]

Idk bro

Just be an NA bro

[sweet summit]

no thanks

[chilly brook]

[sweet summit]

[chilly brook]

I wonder if you could dig into the logs and figure out exactly what's causing the weird interaction

All I know is the spell works on ticks, each tick is supposed to reduce a certain amount and the total should be 60 off of the CD

My guess is that when you spend rage while its channeling is messes with the equation and because a variable changed it ends up knocking even more time off exponentially

Although I'm no theory crafter that's mwahis alley

[sweet summit]

[lavish oracle]

does anyone know when Annhylde's Aegis mitigation is calculated?

like does it apply it last?

can it reduce an attack to 0 damage?

[sweet summit]

my gut feeling is saying yes but thats a wild guess

[lavish oracle]

that seems busted in M+

[limpid pawn]

what's annhylde's aegis?

[lavish oracle]

raid trinket off The Nine

[sweet summit]

its scale but better basically

[lavish oracle]

I don't know if I'd say flat out better

[sweet summit]

uncapped DR
lower CD
also does damage

maybe, idk

[lavish oracle]

Better in a lot of common circumstances sure

[sweet summit]

yeah ok i see what you mean

i can agree

[strong forum]

Yes

Aegis is the new and better scale

Atleast in m+

The only situation where scale is better is for singular large hits

[tame jasper]

14 CEST according to news

[sweet summit]

[outer solstice]

any idea how bad the unholy set is for us compared to the blood set?

[distant crystal]

oh lvl 20 portals are already doable

https://clips.twitch.tv/SavageAcceptableGazelleSaltBae-gLaZtP39mf3Lujqv

[limpid pawn]

do you have to have done it after 9.1

or does it count the dungeons you did before

[sweet summit]

oh sick

[strong forum]

Hol up

That's wrong

[sweet summit]

yes

[strong forum]

That's SO wrong

[sweet summit]

gna abuse it

[strong forum]

Are you sure that's not ptr?

@distant crystal

[distant crystal]

yes

they did a pride

then got a 20 portal

prroooooobably unintended

[strong forum]

Technically might not be unintended

Just added too early

[distant crystal]

earlier than...intended?

[strong forum]

It doesn't specify that it's s2 exclusive

Right, just says complete +20

So it's technically correct

[unique ore]

Hey Is the NF the best opción to tank/dps

[strong forum]

Yes, but kyrian is getting really close to being equal to NF

[distant crystal]

whatever is best for your preferred dps spec bb

[blazing condor]

Is 9.1 poggers mr americans?

[distant crystal]

we're workin thru all the bugs for y'all

should be tip top when you get in

[blazing condor]

[sweet summit]

[cinder nova]

I cannot stop vacillating over whether or not I wanna swap back to Kyrian

kill me

[sweet summit]

be a chad

go venthyr

[cinder nova]

I'd rather not sabotage my character

[sick sentinel]

has anyone 4 gemmed torghast??

[sweet summit]

servers not even up...

[sick sentinel]

I was never one to complain about torghast.. u know sure it can be tedious and we cruise through it but now the next layer (Layer 10) cant be accessed unless u score a 4 gem on layer 9??

[sweet summit]

yeah

[sick sentinel]

i just spent hours in there redoing my runs and closest I came was 5 points to 4gem

[sweet summit]

you just go fast and kill/click everything

[sick sentinel]

yeah I was

im pretty geared and pulling big and aoe cleave isnt a big deal but

[sweet summit]

ideally stay empowered for all of it too

[sick sentinel]

im tryin bra

im tryin

https://tenor.com/view/tom-y-jerry-tom-and-jerry-meme-sad-cry-gif-18054267

[sweet summit]

[blazing condor]

New patch new erga picture

Neat

[ionic fern]

Do you have a log of that?

[chilly brook]

yea

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/K3XvQYw4tndrbVAM/

not sure what pulls tbh

[strong forum]

Can't access beyond layer 9 yet anyway

From what I know

[sick sentinel]

next week though

[eager iron]

Have you tried running it in a guild group?

I got 5 gems by running a standard 1-1-3 comp. I assigned the hunter to get the urns and we used empower right before killing a huge pack

[plucky saddle]

whats the best convenant for prot now?

[jagged pier]

servers up 😮

[north iris]

troll?

[jagged pier]

no

[north iris]

kumbayaa

[sick sentinel]

No i havent but i did finally get the 4 gem after a bunch of runs.. my last run was just 2 points away from a 5 gem. The 30 execute anima power did wonders for the run at the end

[empty spindle]

So who is the go to soulbind for kyrian wktjbthe changes

With the **

[jagged pier]

mik at max renown

[strong forum]

[lavish oracle]

When do you unlock the last mik slot?

60ish?

[sweet summit]

57

[lavish oracle]

Oh, that's not bad

Thought I'd have to wait longer

[strong forum]

I mean that still like 3 months

Kek

Eh okay 2

[ionic fern]

Wait like 5+ months until they make a catchup mechanic and do it in 5 days.

[lavish oracle]

I suppose if renown goes to 80 the patch is gonna be live for at least 5 months

[strong forum]

9.2 q1 2022

Pretty certain of that

[lavish oracle]

Sounds about right

[ionic fern]

That's tooooo soon. They don't have enough time to design another Torghast level.

[strong forum]

1 patch a year

[lavish oracle]

Wouldn't imagine any later than end of january

Honestly, for the first patch they've developed entirely on a WFH basis, 8 months isn't too bad

Given that 6 months is their usual cycle, more or less

[cinder nova]

I'm pretty sure the median is much shorter than 6 months.

Legion was cranking patches out like it was going out of style by comparison.

I'm also pretty sure that as long as the primary mechanics of the patch were largely functional they were satisfied with pushing it through to keep from hemorrhaging more subs.

[lavish oracle]

Legion was like 77 days, iirc, including the .5s so like 5 months(ish) between major patches?

[cinder nova]

That's...

Dude what

That's 2 months and some change.

Do you know how many days in a month?

[lavish oracle]

The .5s are not major content releases

[winged wind]

I'm glad they did not keep the legion pace, it felt rushed and even thinking about playing an alt felt like falling behin on artifact power...

[lavish oracle]

We got a .5 this release cycle too

Though admittedly with no additional content

[cinder nova]

That's because Legion wasn't alt friendly.

Dude, Legion's .1 was 380% faster.

Like - 217 days for a .1 isn't normal.

This is highly, highly abnormal.

[lavish oracle]

I wasn't saying it wasn't abnormal, just like less abnormal than it could have been given the circumstances

[cinder nova]

No, it isn't.

[lavish oracle]

Yes it is

[cinder nova]

Literally no patch in the last 2 xpacks has been 6 months out

You're fucking high.

8.1 and 7.1 were almost lockstep in terms of release pacing.

[lavish oracle]

Did you like block out the last year from your memory where everything shutdown and everyone transitioned to working from home or are we living in different realities?

[cinder nova]

No other major MMOs suffered this hard, and are on smaller budgets.

No other content patch has ever taken this long.

Imagine being a corporate stan for Activision.

[lavish oracle]

Most other major mmos are developed in countries that didn't handle the pandemic like shit

[cinder nova]

And... somehow you still think that makes it okay to have a patch that lasts 2/3rds of a year? 🤔 Like, it's not even hard math, dude. Regardless of the cause, it's too long for a patch and you're going to bleed players. Plus, they've streamlined their entire developmental process by excising tons of extraneous stuff from the game.

A lack of corporate agility is the major snag of this entire operation.

[jagged pier]

complaining about first patch being 250 days when mob and wod end patch are both nearly double and ppl werent complaining about a dead game then

they just played something

i dont see a problem tbh

[lavish oracle]

For real

[cinder nova]

Problem is this goof things 6 months for an opening patch is normal.

When it's literally, historically, and categorically not.

Like - ever.

[lavish oracle]

I literally never said that

This goof is creating a strawman to argue with

[cinder nova]

???

6 months has never been a median cycle.

[jagged pier]

its not normal but whatever they rushed the realise of course the first patch was going to go on for a long time the game wasnt finished at realise

if u didnt think that back at launch

i dunno

🤷

was it only me that though well second patch is miles away they need to fix stuff and then new content as well

literally increases time

[lavish oracle]

Literally look at the image you linked

[chilly brook]

@ionic fern dig into those logs yet?

[lavish oracle]

Like 4 of the major patches in the last 2 expansion were developed in 5-6 month cycles

The only outliers are post xpac (long cycle) and beginning of xpac (short cycle)

[cinder nova]

After launch.

[lavish oracle]

Who the fuck cares, my dude

[brittle owl]

apparently

you two

[jagged pier]

i dont im glad it was long i got CE because it was

[lavish oracle]

Yeah, I'm going to bed, dude can go wank into his Bobby koticks hate jar, I guess

[cinder nova]

How come I have to explain that mid-xpack content patch cycles are different than opening cycles.

Jesus, what a shill.

[brittle owl]

S. + Azathoth is the official skyhold hatemance

[cinder nova]

I can't even comprehend trying to go up to bat for Acti.

[sweet summit]

[cinder nova]

Development is getting completely hamstringed because major developers are getting the fuck up out of dodge and Acti is running around with its hair on fire trying to replace them.

[north iris]

i literally just killed sire mythic yesterday. I still have transmog to buy for covenants, the patch was great, granted if you don't play to finish the game, or play in really good guild that finished the game long ago it might feel like a lack of content? but for me it worked out

[cinder nova]

Big shock: Acti's treatment of developers tends to make people who were originally given large amounts of developmental freedom want to leave that.

[ionic fern]

Not yet, just got off a meeting.

[cinder nova]

I got people in my guild that were snooty about me not wanting to do M+ to help them get KSM in the last week.

[jagged pier]

yes lets just talk about activision and complete ignore the global pandemic

[unique shale]

lol

[north iris]

that's clearly not a you problem lol

[cinder nova]

I basically told them as much. It's not hard if you can rub two brain cells together, and I've been pushing all season.

I'm not fucking around for any more than my requisite +21 for a +15 key.

Post-season can bite my ass.

[strong forum]

You can get the +20 portals already

[unique shale]

man nobody were boosting ksm those couple of weeks only if clients would pay up more

[north iris]

same ppl will complain there's no content without 10/10 without m+ without any mog acquired

[strong forum]

I mean not everybody plays wow because they like clearing the raid

[outer solstice]

yeah but at the mog prices...

especially all the anima prices

[brittle owl]

cOnTeNt

[cinder nova]

Yeah, anima grind =/= content.

[unique shale]

[jagged pier]

i dunno i have like 20k amine saved up and i havent played the game in months execpt raid logging

[brittle owl]

ameno 🙏

[strong forum]

Raid is the only thing that keeps wow alive, but it's not the only thing you should consider content

[cinder nova]

I was too stupid to go get my anima out of my Kyrian reservoir before swapping NF

[outer solstice]

yeah then you buy 1 set of anima mogs, for 30k

and you're all out

[north iris]

some will say there's too much to do while not doing any of it others will say there's too little to do without doing anything, ppl will always find faults. This has been an excellent time waster as any game should be

[brittle owl]

that is a very shaky statement nomer

[cinder nova]

There's like 9K bumping around there

[strong forum]

But it's true

[unique shale]

it is

[brittle owl]

roses are red
violets are blue
gamers are pure scum woo :seanbee:

why do phone disc emotes not work 🤔

fug

[north iris]

if you're not pushing raid or m+, what exactly is there to do ? that's like playing a shooter game without aiming to get headshots..

[ionic fern]

A lot of people are doing achis/Mounts/pet battles etc.

[brittle owl]

shocking news: some people like the lore

[ionic fern]

Just some casual stuff.

[brittle owl]

not so shocking news : erp

[jagged pier]

my content =/ your content

[brittle owl]

no

[jagged pier]

done @ me

[brittle owl]

my content >>>>>> your content

[strong forum]

This

[jagged pier]

🤔

[strong forum]

[brittle owl]

@jagged pier you filthy casual

[north iris]

for achis mount pet battles pretty sure there's a ton of content both current and old to complete

[ionic fern]

Jeah?

[jagged pier]

[ionic fern]

What's the issue with that?

[brittle owl]

what if you're an ach farmer since 2.4.2

[ionic fern]

👀

[strong forum]

For me? Its transmog

And doing good dps as tank

[unique shale]

what if you are RP venthyr prot warrior trying to having tea with others

[brittle owl]

[ionic fern]

Best content is doing M+ with a dedicated group. 😦
This way i have to deal with 4 other mongos instead of 19.

[strong forum]

Yes

[unique shale]

that’s harsh

[ionic fern]

But true.

[strong forum]

Na, humans suck

[north iris]

there's no issue with that.. just saying there's ton of content in shadowlands and things to do

[ionic fern]

Tanking raids as a tank is..
"Learn your stuff in the first 5 pulls since all you do is taunt swap at X stacks" and then wait until the other 18 people stop dying to avoidable things.

Get to the next phase
Repeat

[brittle owl]

tanking raids

tbh

is giga zen

on prog

on farm it's pew pew pew logs

[ionic fern]

Jeah, on farm it's big logs.

But progression is...

Snoozefest.

[brittle owl]

zen

[strong forum]

Farm is when you go in, kill the boss and blast music

How is that not great

[unique shale]

98.7 average log on heroic

[brittle owl]

heroic logs

[ionic fern]

What

[brittle owl]

[jagged pier]

heroic logs KEK

[strong forum]

[ionic fern]

99+

Smh

[arctic hill]

***Not trying to interrupt the convo. But I couldn’t find any information regarding why Reprisal is being crafted as boots by high level peeps I see on logs and the subcreation page.. while legs would grant more stats. Anyone have any insight?

[sweet summit]

100 best pref avg. heroic logs

[unique shale]

0.3 short sadage

[strong forum]

Last patch SLG dropped 233 pants

[cinder nova]

They crafted them as feet originally because SLG dropped 233 pants.

[strong forum]

That's the only reason why

[ionic fern]

People laughing at HC logs.

Meanwhile me with my NM logs

[arctic hill]

Oh gotchu, tytyty

[sweet summit]

the wall and signet farming

[brittle owl]

[sweet summit]

epic

[unique shale]

well i didn’t have guild to do mythic and i all i did was 3 bosses with 70 & 80 log

[ionic fern]

Oh hei, i also did 3 bosses.

Total.

[unique shale]

do more than 3 bosses in mythic its just pain in the ass tbh if people cannot adopt

[ionic fern]

Oh, i haven't even touched Mythic.

[cinder nova]

How do I convince my raid lead doing N first this tier is poopybutts

[sweet summit]

adapt?

[ionic fern]

This raid tier i just avoided raids.

🤷

[brittle owl]

easy

change guild

[unique shale]

probably best thing

[jagged pier]

trinkets

[outer solstice]

yes

[jagged pier]

for normal

[outer solstice]

trinkets are cool

[jagged pier]

are still worth

[ionic fern]

But now i'm forced to raid due to..shards.
big sad.

[jagged pier]

[outer solstice]

[unique shale]

i barely find good trinket in 9.1

[outer solstice]

send shards and socket gear to mwahi

[jagged pier]

the raid literally drops a better scale

bad trinkets

[unique shale]

still going blood scale and overwhelm Crystal

[jagged pier]

🤔

[outer solstice]

lol

[blazing condor]

cheat death

[outer solstice]

I still don't have scale xD xD I hope I don't need to run onto it once I have the thing from raid

[unique shale]

new cheat death is just good in raid

[jagged pier]

the new cheat death is dogshit like the old cheat death

[outer solstice]

cheat death is always bad when you want to perform

[brittle owl]

cheat death

[jagged pier]

all cheat death trinkets are bad

[outer solstice]

the new one is even worse

[ionic fern]

All ready for S2

[outer solstice]

what is that shield ?

[brittle owl]

most peope use cheat death trinkets wrong*

they're not inherently bad

[jagged pier]

exactly my point

[unique shale]

i am still on that 220 ring 😦

[outer solstice]

yeah I use Cheat trinkets just for,... well to play drunk and not die in hc

[brittle owl]

and to that i say

[outer solstice]

even when the other tanks does weird stuff

[brittle owl]

😎

[jagged pier]

i still dont have al'ar it never dropped

i wouldnt use it anyways

[unique shale]

me too kekw

[ionic fern]

Wait, you can die on HC this late into the tier?

[jagged pier]

apprently

🤷

[outer solstice]

opinion on the BoE of SoD?

@ionic fern yeah you can,... P3 sire when the other tank got yeeted off

[brittle owl]

maybe he gets drunk enough that he passes out during raid

[strong forum]

It's always poopybutts, hence why we usually did it on a voluntary basis

[ionic fern]

Oh and someone talked about if mika is best on ST as well - yes he is.

It was like..yesterday or something

[strong forum]

Heroic like usual and normal Friday night

[outer solstice]

yeah I still suspect mika to be nerfed

[jagged pier]

are you not forgetting normal trnasmogs?

thats the big content

[brittle owl]

if you're semi hardcore you'd do normal after hc tho

[strong forum]

Yes

We did that

[ionic fern]

Someone grab me in on their guild kill so i can get all HC bosses. 😦

[brittle owl]

just pay echo

[strong forum]

Hc on Thursday
Normal on Friday
HC again ( if didn't clear) on Monday

[brittle owl]

[unique shale]

😆

[ionic fern]

😂

[strong forum]

I'll just get it 1 or 2 expacs later

When I can solo it

Normal and hc tmog during current tier is boring

[brittle owl]

member ToS lfr tmog

that shit slapped

[strong forum]

Legion lfr mogs were actually good

[jagged pier]

i got tos mythic set

dont need another one

[strong forum]

I got the pvp version

Aka the better version

The good one

[brittle owl]

pvp also slapped

[strong forum]

Tos mythic is just a cheap knockoff of cruel elite glad

[ionic fern]

Play the real game and don't mog.

[brittle owl]

tos mythic was poop for majority of classes

[strong forum]

Like warri

[brittle owl]

tbc gotchu

[ionic fern]

Mogging is like putting makeup on.
Smh.

[jagged pier]

warrior had to many red tmogs

[unique shale]

9.1 starter pack

[strong forum]

It doesn't have enough black ones though

[brittle owl]

antorus elite set

[strong forum]

Too tryhard for me

[sweet summit]

no haste food :/

[brittle owl]

the only black and red tmog you need

[jagged pier]

why have u got vers food

[unique shale]

is it enough

[jagged pier]

and no haste food

[brittle owl]

vers food

🤮

[unique shale]

setting on 950 haste enough is enough

[ionic fern]

Imagine using consumables.

What is this..tryhard week?

[unique shale]

[brittle owl]

it's a

trihardlon

[ionic fern]

This is the only consumable you need.

[unique shale]

😆

[outer solstice]

no feats and only vers food? *think

[outer solstice]

never enough haste 🙂

[jagged pier]

950 haste doesnt sound like 166% haste to me

also why not just carry feasts str better than both

[unique shale]

corruption powers flash back

[jagged pier]

166% is our hard cap for SB

just saying

then u can wear seimic cause u will have 100% uptime

[unique shale]

wdym i always wear seimic

[jagged pier]

[unique shale]

[jagged pier]

especially on ST

[unique shale]

nah

Rep and wall to get rage to condemn

[blazing condor]

Who said the raid trinket was a better scale and which one is it? The aegis?

[jagged pier]

Nome said it

[blazing condor]

All stormforged share braincell so u can tell me too

[jagged pier]

nah he just said the one from raid was better than scale

didnt say which one

[blazing condor]

(You wont BELIEVE which one it is!!!)

Getting clickbaited by SFs smh

[opaque quest]

My god. That devouring cold looks sexy

I wanted to reroll to my prot warr but damn my DK looks good

[strong forum]

Aegis is sick

Uncapped dmg reduction

Uncapped dmg output

Lower CD than scale

With SB up you're literally immune to dmg during aegis

For the full duration of the buff

[opaque quest]

Trinket from Dung also looks good for M+

Flat 10%

Oh wait no

Its a prog chance

fml

[brittle owl]

which one is that

[strong forum]

Stam

Maximum of 4.9k

No

Just no

[unique shale]

stamina

hell no

[opaque quest]

Maybe my Blood DK Brain is stepping in

Stamina means more DS heal/dmg

[brittle owl]

oh look

it's a bfa level shit trinket

[opaque quest]

We ignoring coral or?

[unique shale]

really ?

[brittle owl]

coral was dope wdym

yuge crit

guarantee crit on inkpod

[opaque quest]

Thats what i mean

You sounded like all BFA trinkets were shit

But hell no

[brittle owl]

talking about tank trinkets

all bfa tank trinkets were hot taint

[opaque quest]

Diamond laced prism?!

[brittle owl]

yes

[opaque quest]

Ashvane Tank Trinket

[brittle owl]

dogshit

fucking garbage

[opaque quest]

kekw

[brittle owl]

if you liked those you should love this one

achieves the same effect

[opaque quest]

I never wear any tank trinket

[unique shale]

i never had one kekw

[opaque quest]

I usualy go for 1 stat trinket and 1 dps trinket

[unique shale]

only scale

[opaque quest]

In BFA it was coral

and titanshard

Until titanshard it was rezan

Now its phial and anima

[unique shale]

never used

[unique shale]

hun

[strong forum]

Vita + dragonscale

[languid juniper]

Raden trinket

[strong forum]

📈

[opaque quest]

Titanshard is raden trinket tho

[strong forum]

Ya but that could also mean the bad one

Vita is the good one

[opaque quest]

Fuck void twisted

[timber jasper]

Carrot on a Stick > all other trinkets

[opaque quest]

https://tenor.com/view/kekw-kek-bttv-twitch-emote-gif-15123134

[languid juniper]

lets hope i get phial early on this time

big pp tank

[jagged pier]

well as u dont need scale

if u get shield early can just swap to fury for vault

[strong forum]

Tarragrue drops shield

And a good looking one at that

So you can technically perma loot as fury from vault

[timber jasper]

I would use warriors soul and whispering shard as trinkets. gives me haste haste haste haste haste

[dark turtle]

What's looking good from sanctum?

[outer solstice]

a lot of stuffz

I asked that before but maybe I missed the anwer, how bad would it be if we run the unholy shard set and all DPS shards?

[jagged pier]

[jagged pier]

unholy got nerfed into the ground

[timber jasper]

beside that you can only run 5 shards

[outer solstice]

that's why I was aksing,... unholy set + DPS shards of the other 2

as if were fury main

oh wait I actually might be xD

[jagged pier]

i think mwahi was saying we run like 3 blood and 2 frost now

[outer solstice]

yeah I know

but if I can't because prot is not my main?

how far am I behind,... htat's the question

[jagged pier]

🤷

[opaque quest]

You wont even be invited into a +2

[jagged pier]

u can swap them around and stuff i believe

with something from the maw

[blazing condor]

Is the shard trinket channeled?

[timber jasper]

there is an item for iirc 2,5k stygia which removes the shard from the socket to reuse it again

[outer solstice]

yeah the chisel

[jagged pier]

yer that one

[outer solstice]

get that thing asap

[jagged pier]

laughs in 15k stygia

[outer solstice]

well stygia is close to worthless now anyway shrug

[ionic fern]

Damn, i think i gotta farm Stygia to get it.

[timber jasper]

Do we know how much Stygian Ember we will get from the bosses in SoD? Just one per boss or random number per boss?

Otherwise it would take ages to bring all shards to rank 5

[bright flax]

Last I heard in a video, nobody knows

[blazing condor]

Reeee my class order hall is run over by filthy non-warriors now

[opaque quest]

Wait what

[ionic fern]

Filthy non shield wearing casuals.

[fathom spindle]

So, haven’t really looked into wow that much these two last months.

Has any covenant started to run ahead from the rest?
Or is it just choose whatever really?

[opaque quest]

Comes down to what you wanna do. Its still kyrian > nf > necro > venth

NF does more dmg. Kyrian is alround

Alltho bron might change that lol

[fathom spindle]

Bron is a ninja puller 😂 fuck him

[jagged pier]

he doesnt

and theres a 100dps difference between NF and kyrian

[ionic fern]

I will re-do the sims tonight for ST and AoE with correct gear.

[opaque quest]

How is your bron a ninjapuller Oo

[jagged pier]

[fathom spindle]

When i’m a tard and uses invis pot just when he spawned.

Cost us a Sanguine +20

[ionic fern]

Did they fix Bron pulling?

[jagged pier]

i mean he hasnt for me when i play fury in dungeons

🤷

[fathom spindle]

Then again, shouldn’t have run Mikanos as Prot in the first place 🤷‍♂️

[ionic fern]

Gotta test it again then. 😦

Making me log onto retail, smh

[ionic fern]

Mika is biggest ST (and probably AoE) for Kyrian right now with full traits.

[fathom spindle]

What did they change then?

I remember him being underwhelming in PvE 😮

[ionic fern]

New binds.

👀

Bron doing more damage & stacking faster.
40s spear CD as last trait

Combined with Kleia/Pelagos getting "meh" traits.

[fathom spindle]

So Bron went from Chump to Champ? 😮

[strong forum]

Ya

Blizz tried real hard at making him being picked more than 0%

[tardy burrow]

Prot warrior = chads again

[fathom spindle]

Darn it then, i'm locked as Fae for 2 weeks, left as Necro, gonna change to Fae now

Since i already started the Rebuild our trust

Sorry for the outburst in swearing on this Christian Minecraft server btw

[inland raft]

50 zug zugs to absolve you if your sins

[jagged pier]

always has been 🔫

[fathom spindle]

Yes sire!

[tardy burrow]

Should I go belf or Hmountain?

[fathom spindle]

I can't even turn in the Rebuild our trust, she's not there 😮

[tardy burrow]

not a min maxing question, more of a aesthethic lol

[jagged pier]

then panda

[inland raft]

Furry life for aesthetics either panda or vulp

Tauren technically furry but not as cute

[fathom spindle]

So yeah, Lady Moonberry is not there, i can't switch back to NF.

I mean really

[inland raft]

Have you been kyrian? If havnt been one before can instant swap

[fathom spindle]

Ive been all 4 😮

[strong forum]

Imagine not being kyrian

And staying kyrian

[fathom spindle]

😦

Listen here buddy...

[inland raft]

I like nf

[orchid frigate]

same

[fathom spindle]

Night Fae is sweet, but if Kyrian is pretty much pulling the same DPS, i reckon they're better for rage gain etc.

[near sundial]

anyone tested the aegis trinket on ptr ? does it break on the 18k damage taken (damage proc) or does it last full duration regardless

[strong forum]

It doesn't break

It's not an absorb shield, all the dmg proc has to it is "you need to mitigate X amount of dmg, then it procs dmg"

[near sundial]

the "as it expires" threw me i think

[near sundial]

thanks for the quick help

[opaque quest]

Torghast L9 is for higher sheed legendarys?

[tame jasper]

Lvl 9+ drops Cinder yes

[ripe kelp]

Night Fae bis atm for m+?

[sweet summit]

we recommend kyrian since kyrian buffs rare and good

[orchid frigate]

is it a good time to go back to kyrian now or should i wait till after unlocked flying?

isn't kyrian pretty good for fury rn as well btw?

[sweet summit]

now is a good time

only 2 extra renown

and u can easily catch up

ya kyrian is good for fury

like 2nd best ST and still great in m+

basically new nf

[orchid frigate]

nice

[pallid kraken]

God i wish venthyr was good for prot, wish even more they gave prot furies execute instead of arms. Low hp rage gen rather than rage dump. Like 10-15 rage on an 8s CD or something

[sweet summit]

yep

[ripe kelp]

i quit like 4 months ago, so trying to weight in if i'll actually enjoy the game atm

[sweet summit]

nah the game is still bad

[orchid frigate]

Ty @sweet summit

[pallid kraken]

Try mailing blizz, a few times I asked for like 3-4 days of game time and they said yes

[ripe kelp]

lol

prot warr was bad in bfa for rotation but it was fun being king and doing big pulls... so feels like more the same atm but not being kings

[sweet summit]

youre wrong

bfa was peak prot

[ripe kelp]

tbc warr is like 3X more innvervative then this current iteration... and even that's simplistic lol

[timid urchin]

Hey guys, looks like we still talking about Cov

is the consensus that Prot is still best with Fae for Raid?

[sweet summit]

generally kyrian

[bright flax]

hey anyone has some wa recommendation to track execute?

I keep forgetting it exists 😦

[ionic fern]

Kyrian is valued over Night Fae due to:
1)Not many DPS'ers / Healers are Kyrian so you would be providing the strong dungeon buffs in Necrotic Wake / Spires of Ascension
2)Phial can be really strong/cheesy in the right scenarios

[timid urchin]

thats the only reason for Kyrian? not th spear or soulbinbds?>

[ripe kelp]

it's based on kyrian = nf i think

[ionic fern]

The soulbinds / abilities are more or less comparable. 🙂

[tame jasper]

btw with max renow yfor mik you mean max of the patch aka 80?

[ionic fern]

W/e the final trait is.

57 (?)

[sweet summit]

57

[tame jasper]

k this will take some time until its unlocked 😄

any infos abotu the vault bug?

hotfix says its disabled

but in EU its active

(but I didnt open ofc)

[jagged pier]

vault bug?

worked fine this morning

[tame jasper]

accoirding to blue and disable-hotfix it provides items with lower ilvl

[jagged pier]

i got 2 226 choices

[tame jasper]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/blizzard-advises-players-not-to-open-the-great-vault-due-to-bug-323128

[jagged pier]

it also doesnt fucking matter its off season and loot wont matter by next week

[strong forum]

^

I wouldn't care for a 226 or a 151 ilvl from vault

Both equally worthless

[brittle owl]

not true

[tame jasper]

on my main ofc 🙂

[brittle owl]

226 is more gold

[tame jasper]

on my twink not ^^

[brittle owl]

😎

[strong forum]

Even on Main it's useless

Literally next week you shit out 230s left and right

[tame jasper]

yeap

[ionic fern]

Just do some random stuff and have fun

Like...

Swap keybinds of SB / IP
Talent into Never Surrender
Do a key.

[jagged pier]

[brittle owl]

play spin to win build

[strong forum]

War machine

[ionic fern]

Smh

[strong forum]

IV

[ionic fern]

That's done. 😦

[strong forum]

HR + signet

Now that's! Gaming

[brittle owl]

https://tenor.com/view/noice-nice-click-gif-8843762

[opaque quest]

Am i stupid or is tazavesh still closed

[sweet summit]

youre stupid

[fathom stag]

Opens next week

[opaque quest]

Fuck me

[sweet summit]

^

[opaque quest]

Gj blizz

[sweet summit]

ye

idk

[fathom stag]

Yerp

[sweet summit]

this week is just the tip

you know

a little taste of what to come

no real content

[opaque quest]

I dont think ive never had nothing to do on patch day lol

[fathom stag]

Ease us on in

[ionic fern]

Don't worry, you will barely have anything to do later as well.

[opaque quest]

But solstice of heroes starts on 6th

[opaque quest]

Feelsbobbykotickman

[sweet summit]

ngl im highkey glad theres not much to do

[ionic fern]

Same, i can just continue afk'ing.

[opaque quest]

More time for destiny and solstice then

[ionic fern]

I'm gonna finally try out FF.

[opaque quest]

Its good

Suupppeeerr weeb infested but the game is good

[ionic fern]

I'm more interested in the classes/combat system

Heard a lot of good about it.

[opaque quest]

Mechanics are dope af

Only the cosmetic stuff is well

weeeebbbbb

[fathom stag]

Combat is good, a little clunky at times, but over all solid

[dense sundial]

Eh, movent in FF is what turns me off. Doesn't feel nearly as smooth and dungeons are on rails

[ionic fern]

I'm just checking the visuals of the abilities on YT and thinking "I need this in my life".

[opaque quest]

Well its FF

Ofc it looks dope

All the china/japan games look good

To bad 99% of them are raid shallow legends on the inside

[ebon geyser]

Imo the fact that stuff opens a week after doesn't bother me, let's ppl gear experience the zone without going dense brain into dungeon grind

And getting gear as well

And work on legos

[strong forum]

I personally would prefer a full release of everything at once

So I can nolife as much as I want

[opaque quest]

^this

Look at what timegating did to destiny 2

Gonna happen to WoW aswell

[ebon geyser]

What happen to destiny 2

[ionic fern]

I wish they just released stuff but provided me the option to "skip everything and gain all the values instantly" so i can go back to doing dungeons once in a while.

[dusty geyser]

so you dont want to play the game, so you can play the game?

[ebon geyser]

I mean I play destiny 2 and the timegate is perfect the whiners are complaining but most ppl like to get to each week and see what happens

[opaque quest]

So because we dont wanna play 30 minutes each week and then stop for 6 days we are whiners? Gotcha

[ebon geyser]

Yep

[ionic fern]

I don't want to do the things i don't enjoy doing.
e.g questing/being forced to grind some rep and what not.
I just want to play dungeons. 😂

[opaque quest]

Pretty sure you got an xpired brain too budd

[ebon geyser]

I don't mind quest but rep grind should be account wide a long time ago . Same with currency

[opaque quest]

MOP was fkn amazing for rep. If you were ex on main you could buy a token for 100%? bonus rep on alts

And grind mobs for rep instead of waiting for fucking timegated daylies

But some ppl like timegating

Casuals

[ebon geyser]

Ppl like u give the game a bad name smh elitist much

[opaque quest]

No dude. Bungie gives the game a bad name. No idea why people think gamers can make a game good or bad lmfao. Stop being a fanboy

[ripe kelp]

Time gating is only good for shit content tbh ie rep factions, professions ... for content ppl enjoy ie m+, raid, arena

[opaque quest]

Timegating is literally never good

There is no reason for timegating. Nothing wrong with people being able to play at their own pace

[ebon geyser]

Bungie is doing good idk what u talking about u can not play for 8weeks and do the whole story of the season in one go

[opaque quest]

Bungie is doing good? Yeah sure bud. Try finding a raid apart from VOG.

Oh wait you cant cause the game is dying

[ebon geyser]

Be in a clan duh

My clan run all raids

[obtuse monolith]

There was a bonus rep thing you could buy in BFA and send to alts but it came later. This patch theres WQ bonus events for bonus rep too. Not that rep’s worth that much other than new Korthia one

[ripe kelp]

I'm giving wow low priority til season 3... been trying to find a reason to try season 2 but just can't bring myself

[ebon geyser]

There's night we run all in one night against other 6 and see who beat them all first

[ebon geyser]

Affix seem cool

[opaque quest]

Thats great. Destiny having 12 active Players says alot

kekw

[ebon geyser]

No but I guess with that shitty attitude no wonder u don't get ppl to raid with you

[ionic fern]

@ebon geyser @opaque quest argue about your Destiny stuff in DM's.

[ebon geyser]

Sorry@ionic fern

[opaque quest]

Trust me dude. I get ppl to run with me. Im just not a delusional fanboy like you.

[ripe kelp]

what exactly is the new affix anyway... just heard anima powers

[ionic fern]

4 mini bosses - kill them and gain "anima powers".

[opaque quest]

Yeah im done arguing. Fk it

[ripe kelp]

how many types are there?

[opaque quest]

https://ptr.wowhead.com/news/shadowlands-season-2-mythic-affix-description-datamined-gain-powers-from-jailers-322098

Pretty much all the common powers

You usualy get from rares

Cant wait for disbands on bad powers from first mob tho

[ripe kelp]

pretty long list

going to be confusing what meta team will be

[opaque quest]

If there are statistics for torghast it will be predetermined which we will take

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/27#metric=dps&partition=1&class=DPS&boss=0 will prolly just take what they took lol

[ripe kelp]

seeing alot of furry fury warriors lol