LOL
#protection
violet ginkgo
usually I am a hunter hurdurr, i am staying far away
lusty grotto
hunter in group means mammoth always charges to africa
same with just about any rdps though
except the ones that know
shy python
Question:
As whe wanna keep Shield Block on CD could we just macro it with IP together?
lusty grotto
no
cause then you will rage starve yourself
60 rage a press
shield block is not a spammable rage dump
IP is
shy python
Okay. But are there other reasons?
shy python
😛
lusty grotto
its so big
that NO
you shouldnt do it
why would you want to IP at the same time as SB
ip is used only at 60+ rage
shy python
Just to save buttons
shy python
I'll give it a try on my remix warrior 😉
lusty grotto
oh
remix
just do whatever
just dont do it in live
remix doesnt matter
im probably hitting ilvl cap today
waxen cradle
Was doing a Siege H on Remix and had a pally who did not know about Lifestorm and how much of a damage boost it can give, he told me thanks after the fact so that was nice
lusty grotto
lol
plush tendon
lusty grotto
zealous goblet
so this is gonna sound awful
if i'm a massive ape and have awful shield wall uptime, is impenetrable wall worth it still?
lusty grotto
yes
zealous goblet
or is that extra 3 rage per shield slam still massive
lusty grotto
shield wall uptime? LOL
rigid yew
@shy python macro shield block to shield slam and thunderclap
Its my lazy macro
Is it top tier optimization, nope
But I have near 100% uptime on it
lusty grotto
just send when you need it
zealous goblet
uh my friends yell at me for not using a defensive every pull
they said i should be much less conservative about last stand, shield wall, and rallying cry
lusty grotto
stop listening to your friends
they very clearly dont know what the fuck theyre talking about
zealous goblet
i'm inclined to listen to them because they push decently high, but at the same time they don't play warrior and argue in bad faith often, but i don't want to seem egotistical, so i try to filter their thoughts, but it's hard when i know less than them
they say by using defensives much more often i let my healers heal me less and dps more
lusty grotto
youre not inclined to do so at all
zealous goblet
(paraphrasing super hard)
lusty grotto
what is decently high
zealous goblet
i have no clue they didn't exactly give me a point of reference
mellow bridge
if i'm a massive ape and have awful shield wall uptime, is impenetrable wall wor...
impen wall gives more uptime on SW than aegis assuming a good rotation
lusty grotto
doesnt matter, they have no fucking clue what they're talking about
but realistically
youll have wall up every min
rigid yew
I use the 2 charge shield wall talent with the lower cd on hit cd or w/e
Its up ALOT like I can SW every other pull basically
Then you can rotate in the other numerous defenses as needed
If you're not dropping below 30% hp then I feel like my defensive is really only letting the healer relax a bit or dps more
rigid yew
Lol
mellow bridge
impen wall gives you SW every ~60s
lusty grotto
dont recommend garbage talents please
lusty grotto
or your own experience
thats not optimal, we're here to teach the optimal setup not to dance around bad talents
mellow bridge
uh my friends yell at me for not using a defensive every pull
also hard to judge what your friends are saying without seeing logs
lusty grotto
your experiences are your own
mellow bridge
rotating defensives and using them actively isnt wrong per se
lusty grotto
its not indeed
mellow bridge
doesnt mean you have to go for maximum uptime which is kinda what your friends sound like to me?
lusty grotto
thats what i got from that
zealous goblet
it's what i got from it myself
mellow bridge
but you should be using them often when it actually makes sense to press them
zealous goblet
i could just be severely misunderstanding
rigid yew
I'll recommend my garbage experience as I see fit
lusty grotto
do it elsewhere then
theres no benefit to macroing SB + IP together, its an overall negative
theres no benefit from running defender's aegis, you will have wall's cd up way less than IW
the benefit youre seeing is highly personal
and not objective
mellow bridge
the only use case for aegis is when you need two shield walls in such a small timeframe that iw wouldnt give you another usage anyways
south zealot
not only is double shield wall less shield walls its also less rage
shy python
<@273857369111527424> macro shield block to shield slam and thunderclap
Its my l...
thanks 🙂
south zealot
you would need 2 shield walls in less than a minute for it to actually be better, and i personally cannot think of any situation that happebs
rigid yew
I never said anything about sb + ip
And talent choices are personal and what make the game fun
lusty grotto
#protection message ????
mellow bridge
that's macroing sb to ss/tc but it's dumb anyways so w/e
lusty grotto
you replied to a conversation asking about an IP + SB macro with that
itll be rough for you guys when we're rage starving next exp
tc doesnt generate 30 rage
have fun rage starving then
violet ginkgo
MUH Rage next expansion D:
south zealot
while it doesn’t really matter much now, there are times you don’t want to send sb on cd
violet ginkgo
I need more detail choco about these "times"
south zealot
if a pack is going to die before your sb ends
on st where you will have no rage to revenge for ss procs
shy python
that's macroing sb to ss/tc but it's dumb anyways so w/e
Why?
south zealot
very minor situations
lusty grotto
Why?
i already explained why
30 rage + 30 rage = 60 rage, are you prepared to lose your entire ragebar to it?
lusty grotto
and if you dont have 60 rage, the first one is the only one that goes off
mellow bridge
if a pack is going to die before your sb ends
like this for example
lusty grotto
thats 30 rage less
mellow bridge
now you just used your last charge of SB and go into the next pack without one
sounds good
shy python
30 rage + 30 rage = 60 rage, are you prepared to lose your entire ragebar to it?
Entire? We can easily play with 130 rage
kind urchin
If you're running bolster and you wouldn't get the full duration of that shield block charge don't press it.
violet ginkgo
Entire? We can easily play with 130 rage
you play with 100 in M+
south zealot
remix literally doesn’t matter at all
shy python
Well lets be clear.. We are talking about top tier gaming right?
lusty grotto
come back whenever remix characters get moved to real retail
shy python
For anything below that those macros are okay
lusty grotto
no
south zealot
in any retail gameplay, you dont want to use such macros
lusty grotto
they are never ok, but youre free to do whatever you want
rigid yew
A true gamer would not require macros at all. This why you buy a mouse with 50 side buttons.
lusty grotto
i dont
south zealot
A true gamer would not require macros at all. This why you buy a mouse with 50 s...
based
shy python
A true gamer would not require macros at all. This why you buy a mouse with 50 s...
I got 12 on my Naga.. but running out of buttons 😦
south zealot
if we get like 5 more keybinds i have to start using control shift binds lmao
south zealot
I got 12 on my Naga.. but running out of buttons 😦
do you use ertyfghzxcv and ctrl shift and alt modifiers
dont have to use y or h if your hand cant easily reach them
rigid yew
However I am a noob and play with a 2 button mouse. Thus I cannot offer the advice of the gods.
lusty grotto
all im saying is
if i do fine without an mmo mouse
and if you do have an mmo mouse
you should do MORE than fine
and just be thankful we're not brews
or hpals
then you'd be flat out fucked on buttons
south zealot
not including the 5 offensive cds, 5 defensive cds, the 5 cc buttons, and the other random ass buttons you have too
radiant mortar
resto
radiant mortar
I don't play baer
rigid yew
Technically speaking if at anytime you have more than 0 rage you are playing sub optimal.
lusty grotto
no
thats completely
fucking
incorrect
your rage bar needs to be between 30 and 60
moving between those 2 values
south zealot
by that logic you can be at 0 rage (optimal) and then shield slam and not have enough rage to cast anything
lusty grotto
if youre at 0 rage, youre rage starved, this is a big flat fucking no
mellow bridge
maidenless being the worst out of those 3 statements
radiant mortar
Man I don't know what to play in TWW, will you guys all stay prot? rdruid is down bad, shadow is okay ish and prot seems down
radiant mortar
maidenless being the worst out of those 3 statements
my maiden blackmails me that she will leave if I go for 0 rage gameplay
rigid yew
It just hit beta
Things will change no?
toxic pewter
why would I play anything other than the true chad spec
mellow bridge
also as an all-tank enjoyer im looking at bdk or brew the most rn
both got some good changes
but bdk set is omega cringe
toxic pewter
literally running around 5% larger than all these other losers
and you thinking about switching?
lusty grotto
ive played prot since vanilla, what do you think lol
toxic pewter
LOL
radiant mortar
why would I play anything other than the true chad spec
enhancer rarely get invited no?
radiant mortar
ive played prot since vanilla, what do you think lol
I genuinely have a hard time staying with one spec
toxic pewter
.. yikes..
lusty grotto
so do i, with alts
south zealot
if colossus arms isnt the bis dps spec
lusty grotto
but not my main
south zealot
im gonna be mildly annoyed
toxic pewter
nothing can beat Chadlossus
radiant mortar
but not my main
I have that for mains
south zealot
who the fuck wants to play mountain thane fury
toxic pewter
fury is always gross
lusty grotto
Anyway being a one trick pony isn't really a good thing, or something I would recommend
It's just a thing for me, that's it
radiant mortar
how is being amazing at one specific class bad?
toxic pewter
mountain thane prot not very appealing to me why would someone actively choose not to demolish shit
and be 5% larger
radiant mortar
me rerolling every tier hold me back from learning
only specs I can play good is shadow and rdruid
toxic pewter
plus the shockwave hero talent alone is insanely good, this knock up actually is useful and on a 20 sec cd
lusty grotto
how is being amazing at one specific class bad?
I'm just saying, you gain more insight of how the game work playing other classes
rigid yew
Just play the meta, be mediocre but still dominate because
lusty grotto
Especially if you main them
radiant mortar
I'm just saying, you gain more insight of how the game work playing other classe...
ok that's true
radiant mortar
Just play the meta, be mediocre but still dominate because
never
If my spec is meta while I play it, nice
south zealot
mountain thane prot not very appealing to me why would someone actively choose n...
lightning and shit
radiant mortar
but I will never fotm
lusty grotto
I do that by swapping alts, but it's not as good as maining something different
toxic pewter
i guess I will try mountain thane.. sigh
mellow bridge
mountain thane prot not very appealing to me why would someone actively choose n...
because former wc3 addiction
toxic pewter
blademaster would of been mega ultra s tier
mellow bridge
real
rigid yew
Honestly don't care that much about class design
I just want a good story, fun raid and nice pool of dungeons for the seasons
lusty grotto
Remember warrior has 3 hero classes in war3
Not just one like dk and dh simps
Thane, blademaster, warchief
Anytime some Mongo tries to pull the hero class bs, remind them with that fact
radiant mortar
I do that by swapping alts, but it's not as good as maining something different
I don't have much time to play more than one class but fair
mellow bridge
plus the shockwave hero talent alone is insanely good, this knock up actually is...
what knockup btw
mustve missed that
toxic pewter
rigid yew
Is the air part just cosmetic?
lusty grotto
thats the idea iirc, but you guys are playing beta so you would know
south zealot
no im not 
lusty grotto
well other guys lol
mellow bridge
it kinda reads like it would do it at the same time
which then makes it only relevant if the mobs would be stun dr'd?
kinda weird lol
anyway mountain thane tree sounds way cooler fite me
lusty grotto
jesus
its not followed by a stun
it says also
also the cdr is the most boring part its a flat 5 sec reduce
lusty grotto
it doesnt scale with target count
mellow bridge
i dont even know what it being a knockup does besides working on mobs with DR already
idk
kinda weird
lusty grotto
the point is that if theres a stun DR
it still knocks em up
or in practice it should
mellow bridge
cant remember the last time stun dr was an issue KEKL
crystal iris
whats the trick to tanking the first pulls of HOI
there are frontal ground effects but those are different from the spear flurry right?
south zealot
yeah
crystal iris
I usually go this way but have only had one group where everyone was able to do the jump skip
south zealot
I usually go this way but have only had one group where everyone was able to do ...
what jump skip
crystal iris
well if a rezzer cant do it then were screwed
i have not had a single group where everyone could do it
south zealot
tell them tk get better
crystal iris
and only 1 group where we could deathskip
south zealot
u jump from right to left left to righht
crystal iris
exactly
they all try to jump straight
you have to start against wall and jump 45 deg left
zealous goblet
whats the trick to tanking the first pulls of HOI
fuck if i know man i haven't even done a mythic halls yet and everything else has been done at 10/11 and at this point i am afraid to join one
grim pilot
the only semi challenging skip is the first drake
zealous goblet
no one even hosts low level halls
violet ginkgo
I don't even know the jump skip
zealous goblet
i don't wanna brick someone's key at what i consider hard level
grim pilot
who cares
radiant mortar
huh
south zealot
fuck em grief all the keys
grim pilot
why would u care about someone elses key
radiant mortar
If its not my key I look out to play as perfect as I can too
south zealot
bro myrtu i jumped into first boss in ruby as vdh and immediately died
grim pilot
that doesnt negate
south zealot
i became the gif
grim pilot
anything I said
south zealot
crystal iris
Id rather brick someone elses key than my own
radiant mortar
be more in combat stance etc
zealous goblet
WHAT
crystal iris
the only semi challenging skip is the first drake
you can skip first drake?
zealous goblet
THAT SWEAR IS BLOCKED
grim pilot
you can skip first drake?
yes
crystal iris
ohh ya leap over the fake rock
zealous goblet
ok i need to retype my paragraph
south zealot
i think in s2 we had evoker rescue priest grip id leap
zealous goblet
i SAID I'M GONNA STRANGLE YOU IF YOU KEEP TYPING IN HALF SENTENCES YOU CHEEKY BITCH? IS BITCH FINE?
ok bitch is fine
south zealot
and 5th popped a wyrbstone
zealous goblet
anyways i play league and half sentences tilt me off the face of the earth
lusty grotto
freedom
grim pilot
rogue can use distract + shroud (NEVER TRIED)
grim pilot
ye
lusty grotto
sprint works myrt
south zealot
i forgot about that we just rescued our priest back in the day
lusty grotto
oh
grim pilot
about skipping
zealous goblet
the only question i have about halls is does the main route from like, normal/heroic fill the enemy forces % or do i need a lot of extra shit?
lusty grotto
yeah yeah
crystal iris
holy shit this is cursed
crystal iris
its not regular route lol
south zealot
youll be fine
crystal iris
if you run it like that
crystal iris
Ill be fine, DPS will all die to the artifact channels
south zealot
myrtu linked the high key standard route
zealous goblet
oh i missed it mb
lusty grotto
depends most of the time the pull isnt bigger, but chained
south zealot
dude idk how vdhs live more than 1 ravager
crystal iris
something hurts a lot when im gathering the first pull
lusty grotto
ravager?
south zealot
in halls the guys that
lusty grotto
what
south zealot
i think they are called ravagers
south zealot
i was getting fucked on a 14 yesterday
grim pilot
I think I did 15-16 on my vdh and pwar
lusty grotto
i mean thats just gear
south zealot
crystal iris
I usually pop SW while gathering the first pull
grim pilot
i was getting fucked on a 14 yesterday
I mean
500 ilv
+14
what
obv its gonna hurt choco
south zealot
crystal iris
i ravager the first pack and onmy way to the second pack I get chunked if I dont have a def up
south zealot
its so unbelievably easy in vdh
i mean like
UNBELIEVABLE
i ran cheat when i tried it and was completely fine
didn’t even need it
zealous goblet
imagine running the beaches of d day and not popping shield wall and heroic leap
imagine how useful shield wall would be in irl war, meta changing
crystal iris
40% of dead is still dead
zealous goblet
wrong
40% of dead is de, rounded down
rounded up*
sorry i might have brain parasite
glacial shadow
man I feel so much more vulnerable as a prot warrior than a guardian druid
glacial shadow
what am I doing wrong?
lusty grotto
as opposed to LOL IRONFUR
toxic pewter
u prob taking backhits
toxic pewter
no one can say without logs
glacial shadow
the cooldown doesn't allow 100%
lusty grotto
"as often as possible" is not the right choice of words
toxic pewter
O_O
lusty grotto
SB has a hastened cooldown, you probably have low haste
grim pilot
u shouldn't ever be able to drop sb
violet ginkgo
the cooldown doesn't allow 100%
You probably only have 3-4k haste?
glacial shadow
4600
lusty grotto
thats low haste
south zealot
if you have low haste heavy repercussions instead of jnto the fray will give you the uptime you need
glacial shadow
i see
blazing condor
you definitely notice when SB isnt up
cus suddenly youre getting chunked 40% per hit
glacial shadow
Im actually already using HR and I still have periods of 2-3 seconds of downtime
I even let SB fall off to get max time out of it
glacial shadow
I press it off cooldown
lusty grotto
shield slam
glacial shadow
within human limitations 😛
lusty grotto
do you have logs?
tribal wharf
does the trinket nerf nerf dmg of tank related trinket dmg effects
glacial shadow
maybe someone logged this raid
tribal wharf
trinkets that deal damage and drop for tanks
lusty grotto
raid??
glacial shadow
??
south zealot
does the trinket nerf nerf dmg of tank related trinket dmg effects
no only the dps spec items
lusty grotto
especially with that low amount of haste
glacial shadow
i've been pugging so its a crap shoot if the offtank does their bit
south zealot
like pocket anvil for this expac
tribal wharf
cuz im saying if there is a trinket flagged to drop for tanks and devs want us to wear it, like on where you get hit and deal fire damage back to attackers
maybe i read it wront
lusty grotto
ok well find the log if you can
frosty mango
GIGA less tankiness
I would go as far as to say no tankiness...
lusty grotto
pretty much but alacrity gives us a bit of leeway
either way he mentioned raid, which... is wild
cause raid tanking is easy af
frosty mango
tell that to the tanks that get pulled off on sennarth every pull
lusty grotto
this def doesnt sound like mythic awakened either
cuase if the other tank isnt "doing their bit" in mythic... uhhh
except for bdk i dont know if theres a tank that could survive not having certain tank swaps
tribal wharf
that or, if they are going to nerf the hell out of dmg trinkets for tank
make the effects not suck (7 second buff for 500k, but from 18 sources...., the blue crystal lair), drop to 70% hp heal for a million
no
stop
what im saying is if they nerf the dmg, sure, buff the defensive portion, i would kill for buffs that last 20 seconds 30 + instead of 12 seconds
lusty grotto
bad take
urban portal
yogi doesnt have good takes
lusty grotto
he did when he said he picked a lalafel blm
urban portal
oh my bad
lusty grotto
which i am
tribal wharf
i was never taking ff14 that serious
lusty grotto
doesnt matter, its a good take
urban portal
if every tank trinket is on the level of rageheart then we are cooking
also why would the buff time matter
lusty grotto
dreadplates*
tribal wharf
well thats exactly what im saying
urban portal
the longer the buff the weaker the trinket effect is
radiant mortar
he did when he said he picked a lalafel blm
how is thata good take if you can play Viera
tribal wharf
too many of the tank trinkets and dps trinkets and especially healer trinkets are just so limp noodel underpowered bs, or its like insanely broken
lusty grotto
no thanks
tribal wharf
its like my shower water temp settings, boiling hot or freezing cold, no inbetween choice
lusty grotto
healer trinkets arent underpowered, they are just fucking boring and dogshit
radiant mortar
healing is boring and dogshit
tribal wharf
i dunno, lots of the healers constantly making argument in raids about "i need that mage trinket" seems
urban portal
they also dont realize that tank trinkets needs to be more than just a big shield
radiant mortar
make healing fun again
tribal wharf
i dont raid alot but that seems to be recurring sentiment
lusty grotto
its not
radiant mortar
i dunno, lots of the healers constantly making argument in raids about "i need t...
yeah because beside rdruid no one really needs mana
urban portal
some mana trinkets go fucking crazy though
lusty grotto
yeah because beside rdruid no one really needs mana
cough hpal
radiant mortar
and rdruid burn it like
urban portal
yeah was about to say hpal
urban portal
the thing about mana trinkets is that even though you dont NEED it
you are allowed to press the less efficient button more often
tribal wharf
whatever that BFA trinket was that restored mana was, i had that on my arcane mage
maybe it was the stafff? i recall the staff on use sucking
caught hell from mage discord
lusty grotto
why use a trinket for mana when you have pots
radiant mortar
Do you mean spine?
zealous goblet
they should make trinkets like in classic wow where you get minor buffs with 30 min cooldowns
like
"text your demented grandmother (30 min cooldown)"
can u feel it
can u feel the classic experience
lusty grotto
nobody cares about classic
zealous goblet
sorry i'm still pent up from sod
it actually made me so annoyed to see how bad it turned out
lusty grotto
radiant mortar
SoD = Season of Dads
lusty grotto
same thing
zealous goblet
i reject your reality
lusty grotto
"young man" telling the guy that started in vanilla late BWL
zealous goblet
i can get delusional enough to make anything seem real to me
radiant mortar
Nim what do I play in TWW, prot, rdruid, shadow or something new
zealous goblet
in fact i already imagined winning this argument so don't bother
lusty grotto
are you 5?
zealous goblet
4 and a half
lusty grotto
Nim what do I play in TWW, prot, rdruid, shadow or something new
shrug
zealous goblet
¯_(ツ)_/¯
lusty grotto
any of these will work
lusty grotto
help me out bro
i have no idea man
zealous goblet
excuse me
you said WORD
those last few results are WORDS PLURAL1!!?!
another w for the best prot warrior in the scene holy damn i'm so smart
lusty grotto
jesus christ youre giga cringe
zealous goblet
very much so yes
lusty grotto
gotta be honest toady made me laugh
south zealot
can i be cringe
zealous goblet
who is toady
south zealot
stamina is the best tank stat
south zealot
more hp is more alive
tribal wharf
i had it on arcane mage
south zealot
oh you didnt have that
south zealot
yeah lol you need that talent
glacial shadow
I was just testing on a dummy to see what it did
lusty grotto
youre just spamming SB for some reason
glacial shadow
yeah, I was seeing if I could maintain it
lusty grotto
no
radiant mortar
zealous goblet
isn't 100% uptime near impossible or something? i'm getting about 95%~ now, but i do notice very brief periods where it runs out, and i have nothing up for 1-2 secs
tribal wharf
no lol, 100% uptime pretty easy
lusty grotto
95+ is fine
tribal wharf
but uptime alone isnt ur metric, blocked hit
lusty grotto
nah hes fine
glacial shadow
didn't realize it could be talented for more SB
zealous goblet
i am using it, i said i have nothing up like no charge of block or charge
lusty grotto
95 is very good
zealous goblet
it's super duper rare, maybe it's because i griefed my charge timing or something
compact silo
whats the best crafted shield?
lusty grotto
primal molten
compact silo
ok ty
violet ginkgo
Champions Bulwark is kinda important
"Kinda" lul it's the most important thing
not just Kinda
compact silo
primal molten
what stats? haste vers?
glacial shadow
should be baseline if its that important
lusty grotto
what stats? haste vers?
haste crit
south zealot
well its only important if you dont take bolster or hr or both
not that important if you have tons of other shield block talents already
radiant mortar
@lusty grotto I think I will go for unholy their class fantasy sounds great
also bdk if it goes bad
vocal cave
what would be all-rounder trinket? dreadplate and ragehearth?
lusty grotto
dreadplate and alltotem
zealous goblet
hey so
i know upgrading trinkets is mainly for the trinket effect, but am i crazy to think rageheart feels bad to upgrade?
lusty grotto
🤷
urban portal
their effect and the main stat both contributes to the power
lusty grotto
you know what i did
i maxed out my hero treemouth first
because i didnt waste bullions on the subpar defensive trinket 🙂
zealous goblet
eh? i've been enjoying it so far.
lusty grotto
good for you
zealous goblet
i've not run across many trinkets yet to make me regret it
i've only gotten a grieftorch and the weird scale thing
i don't even remember the sclae's name
elder cosmos
Gryanoths or whatever?
I think there's 2 different scale ones lol
Maybe I'm cooked
lusty grotto
idk i like my 1.4 million shield that lasts the entire duration because its not a full absorb (and also provides Strength instead of garbo versa)
zealous goblet
haven't come across that yet
zealous goblet
i do keys with my friends we've not done many brackens yet
zealous goblet
what, the trinket or playing with friends?
lusty grotto
the trinket
zealous goblet
oh, i mean
median tulip
I have enough maths in my work, I tank purely by the seats of my pants on vibes and intuition
lusty grotto
thats fine since youre not doing math by playing
median tulip
None of it matters
zealous goblet
new expansion baby
lusty grotto
way to take what i said out of context
zealous goblet
lusty grotto
literally 12
zealous goblet
but i was 5 before
that's some mighty fine progression
i'm a beast growing up 7 years in two hours
SHEEEESH
zealous goblet
what's the reward from silver/gold again? aside from +2 or +3ing a key
another loot roll?
2-5?
zealous goblet
yes but i thought the speed had an effect on how many loot rolls you got at the chest, no?
or is that completely random?
strong forum
You get 2 items per dungeon
For every key level above +10, you get a +20% chance on 1 additional item
So, in a +15, you get 3 items guaranteed
In a +20 you get 4 items guaranteed
(not like items matter at that point anyway)
Only in early legion speed affected how many items you got at the end of a key
grim pilot
what's the reward from silver/gold again? aside from +2 or +3ing a key
More rio
strong forum
The game doesn't tell you alot of things
That's where Word of mouth comes into play 
zealous goblet
like how i can lead a fulfilling life
strong forum
zealous goblet
completely new topic, y'all recommend enabling action targetting or nah? i've tried playing with and without and barely feel a difference
strong forum
Never bothered
In content where stuff matters, action combat can be detrimental to your performance
mellow bridge
What is that even
lusty grotto
its targetting with your mouse kind of like ESO
crystal iris
I kind of like Storm Eaters Boon better than Anvil for keys
i can afford to stand in the occasional Swirly and survive it
lusty grotto
crystal iris
Nahh it slaps
lusty grotto
yeah good job not blocking
crystal iris
vs always having to monitor the anvil timer and be annoyed when someone dies, rushing from pack to pack
lusty grotto
or parrying
crystal iris
oh shit really?
lusty grotto
while standing still like an idiot
crystal iris
damn I cant block? 😦
lusty grotto
how is this suprising?
crystal iris
usually channels where you cant block lock you in somehow
but this you can still use all your abilities
P’us I ran it on AA and didn’t feel like I was taking more damage while using it
lusty grotto
maybe cause its tyr week?
and you probably blasted it before bolstering came around and deleted your characater
strong forum
It's not a channel
It just roots you in place
But it's just useless padding, you have to make a huge pull around it every 3 minutes for it to be semi good
Otherwise it's just a loss
crystal iris
Idk anvil feels like a lot of effort for like 5% of my overall
Last week at least
I knew you could block
strong forum
Useful dmg > overall
lusty grotto
i feel like u can block during it
you can
the problem is what youre saying
mobs will go around you
you will have your butt to mobs at any given time in ele form
its a giga grief trinket
jade widget
Seen this yesterday and came back to it - prob not a bad idea. Cept ppl still taking rageheart
lusty grotto
what do you mean
jade widget
IP Uptime doesn't matter
lusty grotto
i mean its not a bad idea, it just doesnt matter
cause youll be using it as a rage dump so it'll always be up
or, i should say, its not that its a bad or good idea, its not an idea at all
crystal iris
Useful dmg > overall
I dont need useful damage in 8s and I can take a few hits to the back
It'l be my flex on DPS trinket for when I run AA homework keys with 2x bloodborne
I'm kind of underwhelmed by all totem
strong forum
in what way
it does like 16-20k dps by itself + all the sick buffs you get
how is that underwhelming 
toxic pewter
free mini lust every 2 min SCREW THAT LOL
zealous goblet
speaking of bloodborne
the answer is probably yes, but i feel the need to ask
does leech affect DoTs like bleeding?
or uh, wow that's poorly worded, DO YOU GET HEALED FROM BLEED DAMAGE?*
lusty grotto
yes but bloodborne isnt recommended, its part of a meme parse build
there are talents with more weight and that are far more important than it
zealous goblet
oh yeah for sure i was just wondering because i hate playing with advanced combat text and shit, so the only info i have about incoming heals and damage is on my character portrait lighting up
which only displays 1 line at a time and everything is overriding everything it's a thunderdome
lusty grotto
cue tracking unneeded things
zealous goblet
how much has trash been hitting me this entire time? who knows. says absorbed.
naw i hate most peoples uis you'll i like minimalist and clean and shit
only like 5 or 10% of my screen is ui
zealous goblet
aye, pretty much. not elvui, but yeah
it might not sound impressive or considerable but i've seen some of my friends and those fuckers are like, playing starcraft 2 or something while doing dungeons
actual sensory overload
south zealot
it does like 16-20k dps by itself + all the sick buffs you get
urs is op mine is like 12-16k
oh i forgot mine is hero nvm
neon cliff
question, does shadowflame x2 do more damage than elemental lariat + allied wristguard for M+?
neon cliff
oh snap, thank you so much!
lusty grotto
just make sure you sim patchwerk
5 targets
1.5 mins or 1 min
and extrapolate results from both
neon cliff
thank you!!!
lusty grotto
lariat with full sockets + 1 shadowflame patch is good
can be top
in M+ only
otherwise double shadowflame
its not a huge difference though
close to within margin of error
neon cliff
ooo ok really appreciate it!
lusty grotto
full sockets being 3 from neck, helm, bracers, belt and rings so 8
allied + lariat sims way lower
2k to 3k dps off
neon cliff
oof haha
well, definitely will try double shadowflame then! thank you for your help 🙂
cinder marsh
on a scale 1-10 how good is prot warr in PVP?
pallid quiver
tanks shouldnt pvp
There can be niche potential in BGs, but
lusty grotto
bear and vdh are usually better flag carriers
and base BGs arent good for prot flag defending
tanks should def be banned from arenas though
honestly though, we have an S to A rank spec that excels at pvp
thats Arms
and Fury has been very good this expansion
with a lot of play, maybe not at the highest level but still
normal BGs though, people can do whatever, they'll be a diservice to their team as prot, but its casual play so who cares
pallid quiver
lots of people based on the rage posts
south zealot
tanks shouldnt pvp
idk man i disagree
i like tanks in pvp as long as they can function as a supportive role for their teammate
the issue is when they are unkillable and do the same damage as a dps and make their teammate unkillable and top healing
south zealot
but in theory, it should be fine
lusty grotto
and they do NO dps
if played correctly they make the game extremely fucking slow
if played incorrectly they are doing basically nothing
south zealot
i mean healers in 2v2 are so unbelievably op i think tanks arent even kind of an issue
you have to play infinitely better as double dps compared to heal dos
dps
south zealot
yeah but if u get yolo zerged youre bad/got hard hard outplayed
valid brook
yo guys can anyone help me with something?
south zealot
every class has like 3 defensives
south zealot
yo guys can anyone help me with something?
yeah whats up
valid brook
yeah whats up
my first class is hunter and im currently lv 41 do you know why i feel like i do no damage compared to other people in my team such as tanks?
south zealot
when youre leveling the scaling can be super weird
youre typically the strongest at like level 10-25 before it getting much weaker at 40+
lusty grotto
are you leveling in remix or in non-remix ?
valid brook
are you leveling in remix or in non-remix ?
what do you mean im new to the game
lusty grotto
did you create a timerunner when you created your hunter?
valid brook
did you create a timerunner when you created your hunter?
no idea whats that so i guess no
lusty grotto
does your character have a sandglass when you chat
and/or in the character selection screen
lusty grotto
i mean you can play remix as a trial too
valid brook
i mean you can play remix as a trial too
yeah but like isnt the max lv 20?
lusty grotto
in both versions? sure
see the difference?
does your character have one of those?
valid brook
lemme check
valid brook
lusty grotto
not the hunter discord
lusty grotto
ok you arent playing remix
like choco siad
while leveling sometimes scaling is off, also depends on if you enabled chromie time etc
dont worry about it while leveling
valid brook
im just confused lol i dont wanna feel useless in dungeons
lusty grotto
leveling doesnt matter
valid brook
thats how i level up
lusty grotto
no idea
valid brook
it takes me like 30 min to 1 hour to find me a dungeon lol
valid brook
what is the diff?
lusty grotto
way faster
valid brook
i wanna level there 😭
south zealot
is this classic
valid brook
how do i select remix?
south zealot
oooo it is
lusty grotto
youre playing classic lmao
valid brook
yes lmao
south zealot
wait i hope this is a bit
lusty grotto
yeah... this is a retail discord
south zealot
this would be super funny
valid brook
as i said i havent purchased the game so im playying warm,ane
valid brook
okay thanks for trying
sand pebble
as i said i havent purchased the game so im playying warm,ane
wait your not even playing a legit server hosted by blizzard and want remix access?
lusty grotto
is he not?
lusty grotto
LMAO
keen vine
lol
valid brook
wait your not even playing a legit server hosted by blizzard and want remix acce...
i know nothing about the game lmao
valid brook
it is kinda
lusty grotto
we play on Blizzard's
valid brook
i dont really see a big difference
sand pebble
^
valid brook
lmao
sick sentinel
Hi all, new prot warr main here
crystal iris
It’s very annoying that I can’t drop just spell block for bloodborne
I don’t also want to drop disrupting shout
median tulip
Hi all, new prot warr main here
Hello, the secret is to keep Shield Block up and press Ignore Pain more
sick sentinel
Hehe nice to know did ok in vault mythic yday
crystal iris
Lol
median tulip
Hehe nice to know did ok in vault mythic yday
Vault of the Incarnates, or Azure Vault?
sick sentinel
Voti
brittle sandal
Might be a stupid ass question, but whats the easiest way to get a shield for prot if ive played fury/arms until now?
brittle sandal
Ah ty! Was thinking lfr but Rolling for offspec is risky
lusty grotto
the highest ilvl the shield, the better
since the higher the ilvl, the more block it will have
and the tankier youll be with shield block up
so ilvl is important
an LFR shield will only get you so far
since its vet track
brittle sandal
Yeah but will get me started since i have no shield at all atm
lusty grotto
of course
brittle sandal
Im also trying my luck with time walking to get shield from loot boxes
lusty grotto
im just saying, if you already do that content with your fury/arms spec
it'll be easy to just swap loot spec and get a shield
brittle sandal
A 483 shield will help me get into 0s atleast
Thank you! Not from raid tho with offspec roll meaning less than main roll
lusty grotto
but AV
you havent touched M+?
you can just run an 8 for a hero shield
endlessly
vs raid
sick sentinel
Thank you! Not from raid tho with offspec roll meaning less than main roll
Just change loot spec and you can roll prot loot as mainspec
brittle sandal
you havent touched M+?
Havent touched warrior this season at all atm
lusty grotto
correct, just change loot spec before the fight starts
brittle sandal
Aa okay
lusty grotto
im on my shaman atm
but its similar for you
well raid lockouts are 1 week, if you want a farmable way, you'd need to spam AV higher than m0
because thats the better stat-wise shield
brittle sandal
Yeah okay 😀
brittle sandal
Yeah I know how to change loot spec, i aint new, just new to tanking
lusty grotto
you dont have to tank
you can dps
thats the point of us telling you about changing your loot spec
brittle sandal
Ofc thats what i ment
Got ksh in s1 on my other warr
I know how loot spec works hence why I have unholy loot spec whilst playing frost dk for 2h weps for example
lusty grotto
alright my mistake
sick sentinel
Thank you! Not from raid tho with offspec roll meaning less than main roll
Then i dont get this message? Hehe
brittle sandal
alright my mistake
Dont worry i truely appreciate help
brittle sandal
Then i dont get this message? Hehe
When I did raid yesterday i got highest roll but for off spec and lost it to someone in main spec
Just didnt know the "change before boss start" strat
sick sentinel
Aaah oki cool, i gues you used your bullions on fury/ arms stuff
lusty grotto
7
lusty grotto
3 items?
brittle sandal
Better than i have now