nms-expedition

[serene coral]

I just reached the final step. || It kills us? We lose everything again?! What if we wanted to continue that game?||

[dense basin]

||Just open the save again 🙂 ||

[serene coral]

Phew. Thanks.

I'm actually in a dilemma. I thought I was going to continue this save but then last night, I took a look at the one I last played a couple of years ago. I have so many expansive constructions/bases all over the place and (apart from what has been new since then) most of the things I need. I put a lot of work into that save.

So now I'm not sure. 🙂

However, I also discovered that the issue I thought was only on my Expedition save is there too. All of the entities in the space stations, apart from those in actual shops, are Travellers. None of the other races. I'm not sure how that happened. Or is it supposed to be that way now? 🙂

[dense basin]

All of them? That's wild and most definitely a bug

[serene coral]

Yup, all of them. Only the shopkeepers and the ones who wish me to hire them are the other races.

It has helped to gain nanites but yes, I wasn't sure if it was a bug.

[dense basin]

I have never seen more than 3 on any station, and even that is extremely rare

[serene coral]

But damn, if it has also affected my old save, is it something that can be fixed. Have you ever heard of a mod doing this? I haven't.

[dense basin]

I don't mod (yet) so I can't answer that one. Might be worth asking in the #nms-modding channel if you think that's a possibility.

[serene coral]

Aye. Because if it isn't a mod, I would have thought others would have experienced this. Well, even if it IS a mod of course but perhaps less people. Thanks, Brendel.

[dense basin]

Sorry I don't have an answer for you. Might also be worth asking about in the help channel, where more people will see it

[smoky meadow]

i also have a bug that as far as im aware no one else has xD

[dense basin]

That is definitely today's weirdest issue (for me, anyway)

[dense basin]

Do tell

[smoky meadow]

#nms-questions message

[dense basin]

That's a thing

I tend to lose the floor in the anomaly on my next visit if I've swapped ships and then scrapped said ship

[serene coral]

Aye, that is rather unusual too. 🙂

So it always happens? I had my solar ship push a space station into the warp field once.

[dense basin]

Bug-free game, I tell you

[smoky meadow]

its so bad in the expedition there is basically a 0% chance of me being able to look at the landing pads properly

[dense basin]

I wouldn't play this expedition in multiplayer anyway

I dreamt last night that I played MP in my 4th go round and lost the save

I may have played this expedition too much

[smoky meadow]

on my first try i just accepted those cursed solar ships to be normal and played with multiplayer on xD

[serene coral]

Oh no, the first thing I did was switch off multiplayer.

[minor breach]

I played the whole thing with MP

[dense basin]

Bold choice

[smoky meadow]

whats the problem with multiplayer?

[dense basin]

It's a lot buggier

As you have just seen

[smoky meadow]

i only got harmless bugs though

well there is the anomaly full one where the ship floats in place...

[dense basin]

People have reported less harmless ones (and I've personally fallen to my death as a result of one in another save). I wasn't going to take the chance in a perma expedition.

[minor breach]

Never got any problem

[dense basin]

Glad it worked for you!

[minor breach]

Same

[smoky meadow]

which bug caused you to fall to your death?

[dense basin]

An anomaly bug

Wasn't a perma save so it didn't really matter

[smoky meadow]

i dont get how that bug is multiplayer only

[dense basin]

There are many anomaly bugs

People can shoot you, you can fall through the floor, your ship can fail to land on a pad, your ship can fail to be able to leave, your ship can be bopped by another one on the way in/out and experience some sort of failure... etc etc. I think they fixed the one where you could end up on top and then fall to your death

I often get the one where there's no floor at all

[smoky meadow]

oh thats unlucky

[static willow]

Hey @dense basin! You’re all over my discoveries tab!

[dense basin]

lol

That's the one with the 24 slot rifle that has a scatter blaster preinstalled, I think?

[static willow]

About half a dozen in there, nice work!

I didn’t check for the weapons, I portabled to my favorite weapons early on

[dense basin]

Benefits of playing the second the expedition released while also not being a speed runner

[static willow]

Currently in Hyades on my way to Eissentam

[dense basin]

Nice

[static willow]

I was actually able to complete the atlas path though I found a few hiccups

[dense basin]

Yeah, I actually finished mine out in Eissentam

[static willow]

Had to do a reload of a manual save on my freighter to get around them

[dense basin]

But it was funky

[static willow]

real funky

I couldn’t even get the mission back until core jumping

[dense basin]

I'm curious what Eissentam will be like in surv/perma

[wary pasture]

How does one use the faqs for anchor planet name listing?

[dense basin]

They're in the pins here

[wary pasture]

Oo tysm

Just hit the first anchor so theres that. Trying to set bases for just in case situations.

[weak parcel]

same as any other galaxy just with a better chance of lush biomes

[dense basin]

Oh I know, but given that surv/perma has a much higher chance of extreme everything, I am curious to see what my wonderful normal system looks like

[static willow]

Well, fml

game just crashed after Core jump

Lol

[wary pasture]

Ofc

[barren creek]

Are there any planets in the expedition that don't try to kill you?

[wary pasture]

The ones we never land on. 😂

[dense basin]

Mine crashed on exp run 4 when I found my ship, as soon as I got in it

So I got to start over

[barren creek]

yea lol
seems like the starter system and anchor systems all have hazardous planets

[wary pasture]

Yes omg

[static willow]

Good times

[dense basin]

Planets are much more likely to be hazardous in survival/perma, alas

[barren creek]

ah

[static willow]

it’s almost like they planned it

[barren creek]

lul

[static willow]

Ickjamatew x2

[barren creek]

gesundheit.

[serene coral]

Expedition 7 complete.
That was fun. Despite the permadeath. 🙂

[static willow]

And now the game is bugged where I cannot find black holes

[static willow]

Congrats!

[modern canyon]

Not sure if this is intended or not, but the blueprints do not have the markup at archives

[wraith venture]

@serene coral

[dense basin]

I also noticed this last night

Was mightily pleased

[modern canyon]

IMO it still works for the expedition theme since it's a random selection available and it takes hunting to find them, so it may be intended

[dense basin]

Doubtful, since they've gone to a lot of effort to block other random things. But I'm not going to complain. Same thing applies to minor settlements

[ashen turret]

Actually that's not entirely true ... you can crash into a planet and die without landing on it

[wary pasture]

Emergency landings do not always include landing gears, so I'd beg to differ.

[halcyon stirrup]

Congratulations!

[static willow]

Annnnd now the game crashes when I try to reload my manual save

Nice

[wary pasture]

F

[static willow]

I’m kind of pushing some boundaries with this expedition save, so I’m not surprised

[wary pasture]

Where is the auto in correlation like what's the difference in time.

Perhaps youd done an auto before making the jump.

I have the awkward tendency of exiting and reentering my ship a few times before doing anything major.

[serene coral]

Thank you. 🙂

[static willow]

Yeah, the autosave also won’t allow me to see black holes, so I was trying to go back to the manual

finally wrangled my way through the Atlas path with various convolutions

[wary pasture]

F I understand

[static willow]

Now lost the ability to see the holes

[wary pasture]

That's really strange tbh

[static willow]

I’m not thrilled about it

[ember flicker]

bruh wtf is this expedition

[loud glen]

Anyone know specifically one of the planets to get storm crystals? I used to find some bases but none are left. I died right before finishing fifth iteration so I had to start over. Finished except that and a couple other easy ones so I can get my frigate. Any help would be appreciated

[tawny herald]

To quote @indigo falcon's FAQ, "A planet in anchor system 1 has storm crystals: the acrid (toxic) moon (Mapon VIII)."

[modern canyon]

I landed where the marker told me to for the fifth waypoint and, uh... where tf is the waypoint

also, the planet for anchor 4 has them but it's a pain in the ass to get them there

[loud glen]

Thank you! Since I’m new to the server, where is the FAQ?

[tawny herald]

Check the pinned messages at the top next to the search bar.

[barren creek]

Does the target sweep visor not give you anything?

[supple radish]

I got crushed in the derelict freighter. 😞 Not crushed, but killed. My laptop decided to get laggy on me at the wrong time. I should have exited and started over. Oh well. I'm gonna take my whale tail cape and go home. 😄

[modern canyon]

it didn't, I had to check the coordinates lol

it just said "too far away", and the start point was deep underground so I thought something might've bugged out

[static willow]

And now I can’t interact with the monoliths after solving the riddle… ugh

[ember flicker]

bruh why tf r technology modules so expensive

[static willow]

Everything is 10 X cost except a few select items

[ember flicker]

fantastic

[wraith venture]

just in this expo. part of "roguelike" experience

[tawny herald]

It's a little expected to "reroll" your run by dying so you get fresh upgrade modules.

I died once for progress early on and then cried as I got no hyperdrive upgrades until the end when they weren't needed anymore.

[ember flicker]

well this will be annoying won't it

[tawny herald]

Everyone's experience is different. You might get luckier than me.

[barren creek]

Ah, in that case you just point towards where it's indicating, fly that direction for a bit, land and check the visor again.

[modern canyon]

tried that for a bit but I think the marker started me 1500u away from the target so it seemed like I was making no progress at all until I checked the coordinates and got in my Nomad. Thanks though

[barren creek]

The game gives you enough modules to make it fine.
I think I have more modules in the expedition than in my normal save so far...

[modern canyon]

yeah, and now that the community's hit the point where all the fragments give S-class modules

it'll be quite easy

quite easy indeed

[barren creek]

yea boi scatter blaster go brrr

[modern canyon]

(not pictured: another s-class scatterblaster upgrade, since that X happened to roll quite nicely)

[barren creek]

Is that a multitool that you got yourself, or is that the one you started with?

[modern canyon]

starting tool packed with everything I needed, basically

[barren creek]

Ah. I ended up with an A rank tool, probably because I started later on.

[static willow]

That’s why I said hey man nice tool

What a nice tool, man

So, when the memory fragments all become class X, does that mean that they will only dispense outlaw technology?

[barren creek]

yeah that's what I'm wondering... makes me want to pass on collecting the reward until the end

[static willow]

You can’t control it

[barren creek]

wdym? I can just leave the reward uncollected so that I keep getting S ranks.

[static willow]

There can only be one class of memory fragment in the game at a time

and my core jump into Bulldangr was in the middle of open space, aestroid belt. Smh

[static willow]

Correct, only one class of memory fragment can exist in the game at a time

[edgy heath]

Yo

Guys I have 3 more anchor points left and a storm is about to hit me. Should I leave and keep it all or should I try and get the anchor points before the storm hits and risk losing some progress in a power outage

[minor breach]

Leave and save probably

[static willow]

Save early save often

[edgy heath]

Id say the storm is about 80 minutes from hitting. And its supposed to be bad

[static willow]

Worst case scenario you will be at your last manual save or auto save

But make whatever choice you feel is right

[edgy heath]

Well I lost 8 hours of progress last night and I wanna get most of it back...

Ok just looked my town is literally on the edge of the pink part of the storm mostly in red tho

Ima play till the storm hits

I'll be back. Ima leave my phone charging in my bed

[minor breach]

Ok stay safe

[edgy heath]

I shall

[static willow]

Good luck traveler!

[torn peak]

For some reason I've been stuck on adopting an aggressive creature for awhile now, and I am going from planet to planet hopping systems and I can't find one (one that is naturally agressive on me),

is a way of finding them faster

[barren creek]

Go to the starting planet. You can find hostile creatures there.

[torn peak]

Alright, what's the name of the starting system so I can warp there?

Or is there any easy way to know besides restarting lmfao

[barren creek]

Pinned messages

Close to the bottom

[terse dust]

Oh, I didn't do that at all.

tbh, my "first" run was better iirc.

But then I had to kill myself the requisite time so

Plus, once you can do freighter runs, the Memories start pouring in

Especially now that we're at S-Rank Memories.

I didn't realize the ones I had would automatically upgrade tbh

I had a full stack of A-Ranks before the milestone cleared.

[static willow]

I just found the smallest resource deposit I’ve ever seen, 23 cobalt total

[static willow]

I’m wondering if they all just turn to pirate technology after the upgrade to X class?

[terse dust]

God I hope not

[static willow]

or if it’s going to spit out X class regular modules…

Which IIRC don’t exist

[terse dust]

X-class modules would make it a nightmare for new starts

[barren creek]

Yeah cobalt deposits are tiny compared to others

[terse dust]

Like what a roll of the die

[modern canyon]

somebody once told me
the mods were gonna role me

<@&590975379678953522>

[ashen turret]

cobalt deposits are best cooked sunny side up 😛

usually easier to just find a cave tbh

[barren creek]

yea

[halcyon stirrup]

Nice one!

[rapid garnet]

btw is the expedition worth doing?

because difficulty

[modern canyon]

it's not that hard, especially now that you're getting S-class upgrades thrown at you

I only died once, and that was because you have to for an early milestone to get the Hermetic Seal blueprint

it gets you a frigate with three strong stats, and another cape

ngl, the cape was the main motivator for me

[willow geyser]

u cant change the symbol's colour sadly

[ashen turret]

I'm just more of a completionist, honestly

[modern canyon]

that is unfortunate yeah, but it works well with a good range of color choices. but that is twice now there's been an undyeable white bit on a cape and it's getting a touch annoying

spoilered, here's my current (sparse) frigate fleet so you can see how the stats line up compared to starting frigates and previously-awarded ones

... oh shit it's also got ||-9 expedition fuel cost|| built in. that's pretty big. And unlike the Normandy, it's renameable.

[barren creek]

Nice. I'm mostly going for the ||frigate||, I already like how my character looks.

[modern canyon]

you can also make a little || frigate hatchling || for your base, which is cool.

[halcyon stirrup]

Same here. The other rewards are good but when I saw that I could get that cape I literally said, "Hell yes! I'm getting that cape."

[modern canyon]

then in addition to that bonkers X-class scanner upgrade I got, I also got a really cool solar ship like two jumps from spawn

so I'm seriously tempted to turn this into a main save going forward, after it converts post-expedition

(sadly the sails are yellow, not purple, but hell I'll take it)

[barren creek]

It'd be awesome if the sails were white.

[modern canyon]

I just want purple because it's the only way to get purple anything on a normal ship, tbh

[ashen turret]

not true - you can buy blueprints for purple trails

with quicksilver

[static willow]

Made it! Wooo

[viscid linden]

Hey ive got a question about phase5: leviathan milestone but I don’t want to spoil anyone, would someone dm me?

[dense basin]

You can ask it here with spoiler tags

[dense basin]

Well, it's better than the song I've had stuck in my head for days... Well played.

[static willow]

First time in Eissentam on survival

[viscid linden]

So phase 5: leviathan milestone || when you die does it wipe your save file like the game did for phase 1: iterate/repeat || ?

[dense basin]

No

[indigo falcon]

you'll find out. go do it!! and don't panic

[dense basin]

Sorry, friend 😉

My philosophy is that people directly ask for a spoiler answer, they want to know

[viscid linden]

Panicking is why I'm asking 😭

[indigo falcon]

maybe. but at least spoiler mark the answer 😄

[dense basin]

They have no context

[viscid linden]

love your trogdor icon

[dense basin]

Unless they were silly and read the question, in which case, it's on them

[indigo falcon]

the path led you this far, just... keep going, what alternative do you have really?

[dense basin]

Indeed, do you want to be stuck in this loop forever?

[viscid linden]

Uh, stopping

[dense basin]

Be bold, be brave, and go get your frigate, traveller.

[ember flicker]

whispering eggs in a perma death expedition, comedy gold

[dense basin]

Even better than sentinel murderation, I agree

[ember flicker]

i feel no shame in backing up my save for this

[indigo falcon]

whatever gets you through!

[dense basin]

I am not ashamed to admit I used the box method

If you want to shoot horrors in the face, be my guest, but I prefer to finish 😄

[indigo falcon]

nothing wrong with boxes. the point is to get the eggs, not be the most foolhardy you can be and still escape by luck 😄

[dense basin]

haha, too true

[ember flicker]

whats the box method

[indigo falcon]

4 walls around each cluster of eggs

walkways at roof level between sets of walls

hop into the first walled in area, shoot egg, pick up core, yes the first couple of horrors will spawn in partway next to you but the game will toss them back out

[viscid linden]

"be bold" lmao I am a slytherin, I can and have yeeted myself off of cliffs to avoid enemies

[indigo falcon]

continue shooting eggs, picking up cores, use the walkway to get to the next batch, repeat until done, wait for swarm to subside

even slytherins deserve to break the loop

[static willow]

Hey @indigo falcon, check this out:

[viscid linden]

Currently in progress 😂

[dense basin]

I'm trying so hard to parse that

[edgy heath]

Storm over

Time to get to the fifth anacher

[dense basin]

Also, I picked up the galaxy's ugliest explorer for run #4. Be proud.

[indigo falcon]

what is going on there??

[dense basin]

See! Parsing it is hard!

[static willow]

Where it dropped me after a core jump

[indigo falcon]

ahahahahaha

[static willow]

Middle of an asteroid belt

smh

[dense basin]

Bug-free game, I tell you.

[ember flicker]

aaand im 1 larval core short because they fell through the ground aaaaa

[dense basin]

🪲

[indigo falcon]

when I did a series of hops, the game literally dropped my into space after one, killed me, gave me the title "reckless" (LOL), then put me on some planet's surface.

[static willow]

completely bug free!

so, it looks like Macintosh computers have finally advanced to 2016 levels and can run NMS

[edgy heath]

I'm in the final anachers solar system

[dense basin]

I love that title. Got it when I was yeeted out of my landed ship into a floating boulder

Tell me again who's reckless here?

[static willow]

Oddly enough, it didn’t kill me, life-support went to zero, it kept trying to reset, couldn’t access the select menu to try and reload safe, powered off before dying the first time, loaded the game and it was still at the mid space state. Was able to swim to my ship

[calm flax]

Yeah, every thing is just fine. Just a new type of freighter introduced in one of the patches that wasn't announced.

[static willow]

And I had to “takeoff” from the non-planet

[dense basin]

I see no problems with either of the last 2 comments

[indigo falcon]

that is weird af. I wouldn't be able to just power off safely (console)...

[static willow]

I’m on an Xbox

I was panicking and yanked the power cable

Lol

This is how I do

[indigo falcon]

yeah I got a few screens full of that stuff on one save

[static willow]

Made it to Eissentam in my exp save. Going to chill here, find a place to set up, and then keep feeding polo

That was a serious grind without being able to do core jumping

*The black hole core jumping glitch technique

[indigo falcon]

uh huh

did you use the glyphs that get you close to the center every time? I guess that still means you need to find a portal in each galaxy

[static willow]

Yup

[dense basin]

At least that's not terrible

[static willow]

So I have a base set up now in each of the first 10 galaxies and a portal right next to it

limitless possibilities!

[dense basin]

I would guess you have the scanner upgrades on an exo by now, so I suspect it wasn't hard to find portals at least

Awesome!

[static willow]

no, I did the monolith thing

[indigo falcon]

scanner upgrades at inflated prices

[dense basin]

Well yeah

Scanner upgrades from memories

[static willow]

honestly, I never even deployed my Minotaur geobay during the expeditio

kek gek kek

[dense basin]

👀

[dense basin]

Monoliths come from scanners too

[static willow]

I borrowed another players to go data hunting once

[indigo falcon]

I've got it at the anchor 4 base and at my quiet little storm crystal world

[static willow]

Oh, I just used planetary maps

Seemed like less effort

[dense basin]

Than using a mino? Mine got all the upgrades gratis from memories. But you made it so the method doesn't matter. Good job you

[edgy heath]

Omw to the final memory

[static willow]

Core jump, find a portal, go there and set up a base, portal to center, warp to gateway, rinse, lather, repeat

[static willow]

I like pushing boundaries

I was originally using the black hole thing, but Atlas kept thwarting me

I was able to complete the atlas path

But then it reset, like it used to do in the main game

[dense basin]

The orb tho

What a jerk

[static willow]

srrsly

so I cracked a bottle of ‘95 Rothschilde to celebrate

Kek

Has bad cork creep and turned, unfortunately. 😦

gamble gamble

Somehow seems appropriate alongside this expedition though

Maybe this bottle will be better in the next iteration 😉

[edgy heath]

YOOOO

[static willow]

Hope that’s a good yoooo!

[edgy heath]

It just GAVE me the final freighter mission

[indigo falcon]

uh huh

[edgy heath]

You knwo the one that killed me last night

[indigo falcon]

you got the milestone?

[edgy heath]

It just gave me the completion without actually doing it

[indigo falcon]

wut

[static willow]

yeah, I had that happen with the downed freighter mission after doing it the first time in a prior loop

[edgy heath]

I had done one early

[static willow]

but I didn’t know that the derelict would do it too

[dense basin]

That shouldn't have made a difference

[edgy heath]

I'm not complaining

[static willow]

[indigo falcon]

do you uh... have the item to do the next milestone though

[edgy heath]

Ya

[static willow]

Very nice

[dense basin]

I did a derelict early too and this did not happen for me, sorry.

[indigo falcon]

how do you have that item if you didn't complete...?

[static willow]

There’s definitely some interesting flagging mechanisms going on here

[edgy heath]

Time to go complete it

[indigo falcon]

yeah that's broken I think (but otoh who's going to complain)

[static willow]

Yeah, the downed freighter thing has been mixed for people as well

[dense basin]

yeah, it's weird

[static willow]

On my final loop, I literally just touched down near it and got the milestone

[dense basin]

no 🪲

[static willow]

zero

[indigo falcon]

and got the blueprint... huh

well go forth and... break the loop, traveller!

[dense basin]

Was super happy to find those little outposts don't have inflated prices

[ember flicker]

o god wait how am i supposed to find a sentinel pillar with suspicious packages being hella nerf

[dense basin]

Although I'm sure HG will squash that soon enough

[dense basin]

Reward for the kill 20 sentinels milestone

[ember flicker]

o thank god

[indigo falcon]

the milestone for killing 20 sentinels gives you a map; farm the drones, keep wanted level at 1 or 2, do this by a building you can run into

[dense basin]

Or just kill all 5 waves 😄

Then you have a bonus map!

[ember flicker]

:}

[indigo falcon]

very helpful 😛 😛

[dense basin]

Hey, I did it before I noticed what the reward was

I thought I had to

[edgy heath]

Bruh

It just kills you

[dense basin]

Nah

[edgy heath]

Pretty confident

[dense basin]

Not a bruh but I killed it with an unmodified pulse spitter and a shield

it's amazing what those shields will stop

My screenshot is waaaay up near the top of this channel if you want proof 🙂

Cos I did it at the start

[static willow]

I got the map before completing the milestone iirc

So many convoluted paths to the same goals

RNG FTW

[dense basin]

lol

I finished that run with 2 maps in my pocket

[static willow]

How long do the planetary sentinels stay disabled?

[dense basin]

20 minutes, I think? Might be 30

[static willow]

until warp?

oh, lol

Practically useless then

unless you need to get some stuff done and really aggressive sent in the world, but there are always other ways

[indigo falcon]

nope. until you reload or leave the system

and even leaving the system, if you don't teleport around it might still be fine

[dense basin]

You sure about that? I have definitely been told otherwise

[indigo falcon]

so basically you can spend several hours on the planet doing things, don't teleport and the world's your oyster

I've tested it

[dense basin]

Would be delighted for it to be a TIL

I expect gravitino balls would break it?

[indigo falcon]

nope

[dense basin]

WAT

[indigo falcon]

I tested it on a planet with sentient plants

every 20 30 minutes I would grab another. still off.

off means off.

[dense basin]

That's awesome

[indigo falcon]

it's possible that there is an actual timer now in some patch since I tested but I doubt it tbh

and more fun, I did this recently and then was wandering around looking for poi, found a manufacturing facility

and some green barrels 😄

so if you used the exocraft to find manufcturing facilities (the mino does, right?) you could just go from one to another collecting their little green droppings out of spite. not very efficient but somehow satisfying 😄

[ember flicker]

i have 0 weapons and im at the kill sentinel milestones

kill me

[indigo falcon]

how do you have no weapon in your mt? the first memory fragment should have given you one (iteration 1 milestone 1)

[static willow]

Balls!

I’ll go do the science

[ember flicker]

i have a paralysis mortar

and i had a plasma launcher but decided against it because using that in perma death is a meme

[indigo falcon]

you can craft a boltcaster. then buy upgrades at space stations

they'll be pricey but if you have sold enough memory fragments as crud, you can probably afford a few A ones

[dense basin]

I'd suggest that you go to an outlaw station and buy some of the suspicious weapon packages

they almost always have weapon modules in them, and quite often drop boltcaster upgrades

You might consider buying a multi-tool with a pre-installed weapon

[static willow]

C’est la NMS

[dense basin]

ngl, I reloaded that weapon until I didn't get the scatter blaster

[ember flicker]

are sus packages even worth it anymore with how nerfed they are

[dense basin]

You can still buy 5-8 at once

[ember flicker]

oh right u can reload save

[dense basin]

and X modules are also hella good in the expedition

[ember flicker]

c class boltcaster costing 700 nanites... ye i'm going to outlaw system

[static willow]

What’s the speculation on what X class memory fragments will issue, only pirate tech?

That would be a big bummer

[indigo falcon]

if you craft 10 memory upgrades you could pop them open and see if any of those is the S (at this point) boltcaster, could reload a save on that too. (pugneum available in chistor-olev space station)

assuming you are doing well for units

sell the rest off = 400 * 9 or 3600 nanites, enough for something else

[ember flicker]

hmm ill keep that in mind

[indigo falcon]

let us know what happens, biting my nails now 😄

[ember flicker]

is it worth just buying x upgrade modules

i have enough nanites for 2

[dense basin]

I would spend units instead if you can

But also a LOT of multitools have boltcasters installed already

[indigo falcon]

suspicious packets "weapons" isn't that what you want? from the contraband one

you can craft the boltcaster, it's nbd

[dense basin]

ye

[ember flicker]

theres only 4 for sale

[dense basin]

buy them all, reload

[ember flicker]

also what sort of stats would be considered good, for an x module

[indigo falcon]

comparable to S, so for boltcaster it would be, well...

sorry, let me post the header too, heh

[static willow]

Savescumming modules

Nice

[static willow]

I think I have 47 pirate tech now

going to clear the suit and pop them all!

Why are those in two images?

[indigo falcon]

because the whole table has a bunch of other cruft in it like mining beam and scanner first

[static willow]

Ahhh

[indigo falcon]

S has 4 of the following: damage 3-4, reload time 10-20, fire rate 10-15, burst cooldown 15, shots per bust 1.2 to 1.4, clip size 8 if I read the table right, so you want something close to that for I guess 4 stats also

[ember flicker]

i miss being able to buy 50 sussy packages from a single station

[indigo falcon]

don't we all

[dense basin]

very much :/

Also stacks of repair kits

[cunning raptor]

so...i broke the loop and i don't see no leviathan frigate

[foggy cloak]

Hmm, did you claim it from the milestone

[indigo falcon]

from the expedition completion badge even

[cunning raptor]

yes?

i can't post my screenie here, while i'm at it i'd like that leviathan role, any mods mind if i dm?

[foggy cloak]

Post it in #nms-photomode-gallery

There, roles don't matter

[cunning raptor]

posted.

[indigo falcon]

you're permitted to dm any mod online with the screenshot, even encouraged to

[cunning raptor]

oh good, i'm so used to so many servers have anti ping moderators

[indigo falcon]

if you already posted, then please ping Moderators over there too

[cunning raptor]

Already pinged.

[indigo falcon]

you need to do both or they may miss it

ok!

pining for any random thing isn't ok but for specific stuff like this, yep.

[foggy cloak]

Go to final loop, can you claim that badge?

[cunning raptor]

oh ofc

[indigo falcon]

so if you claimed the frigate, go to your freighter and fly around... it will be there

oh look at that, new color!

[cunning raptor]

ill do it tomorrow, i need sleep.

[indigo falcon]

heh sounds good, rest well!

[foggy cloak]

Good night

[static willow]

After all my core jumping, I am very tempted to item duplicate a few of the repair kits 😉

[dense basin]

haha

[static willow]

But I try to stay legit

[karmic cosmos]

If you are not happy with the stats on the organic frigate ..can you decline and have the opportunity to reroll stats?

[static willow]

Accidentally forgot to switch off the sacrificial multi tool on one of them

[dense basin]

This is why I have a ship that has nothing outside the tech screen

[foggy cloak]

No

[static willow]

Same, “the owl of frost”

[karmic cosmos]

Thanks

[static willow]

Name seemed legitimate so I left it

[ember flicker]

ok screw this i'm just gonna buy the x modules with nanites

even tho they're 3.9k each aaaaaa

[indigo falcon]

ow ow ow

[ember flicker]

actually wait

hmmm

[fossil token]

Should I wait until the community milestones are done to finish the expedition and claim all rewards

[indigo falcon]

no

[foggy cloak]

Why? Its just to unlock better upgrades

[fossil token]

Idk

[indigo falcon]

we're already at S class tier now

[foggy cloak]

Damn, all this people got S class of the start while us were stuck with c class upgrades

[fossil token]

Yeah that's bs lol

[indigo falcon]

no, it's a pathway for those who didn't make it through yet or don't have the same combat gameplay skills, to still get through. makes sense to me

[ember flicker]

lol thank god i decided to put this exp off for no particular reason

[dense basin]

Yeah, I don't mind at all

But I don't mind contributing to the greater good

[indigo falcon]

yep

[dense basin]

and it was fun seeing if I could do it with C

[fossil token]

I don't actually care but it's kinda weird that I could've just started now and gotten that

[indigo falcon]

I mean people who sit in this channel and help others (some of y'all in other words): what do you get for that? nothing but the satisfaction of helping someone else

[static willow]

I started right when they went to B

[terse olive]

Yo. I am being too chicken to disable sentinels in this expedition. is there a way i can cheese my way through it? lol

[static willow]

and, by my final loop, it had just reached A class

Proud 8 looper

[fossil token]

I get server role leveling

[ember flicker]

dont u just walk up to the pillar and click "disable sentinels"

[static willow]

The mission to disable the sentinels || doesn’t even require you to fight||

[indigo falcon]

find a user base with a sentinel pillar, disable, save, reload, disable again, repeat until you get 20

[terse olive]

wut? I guess if you are lucky enough to find Sentinel tower thing?

[karmic cosmos]

Look for bases that have "sentinel pillar"...teleport down and disable

[fossil token]

Smh

[static willow]

Oh, you’re looking for the tower, yes you have to fight the sentinels to get to that

[terse olive]

Poggers!
I will do that. Thanks, and yes, I am being chicken, cuz this is perma death kek

[static willow]

You still have to defeat 20 total

[indigo falcon]

check that the base isn't on anchor 4 (weather "Self-Igniting Storms") and just go

[static willow]

for the other milestone

[karmic cosmos]

I did that too!

[terse olive]

alright

[static willow]

Hey @indigo falcon I stepped away earlier, so I didn’t see if you responded. Is there any information or speculation about what happens to the memory fragments when it goes to X class? Will they only distribute outlaw technology?

[terse olive]

thanks guys let me coward my way through this milestone

[static willow]

If you’re hesitant about combat, blow one up, get in your starship and run, rinse lather repeat

[indigo falcon]

I don't remember if I responded either 😄 guessing that we might get the upper part of the curve for X but only time will tell, and no idea what an "X" ship or multitool would look like 😄

[terse olive]

also, on the first planet, I spent like hours looking for damaged tech modules and I got a few S class that way lol

[static willow]

That’s what I’m thinking, there are no such thing as “X class” regular modules now, it’s all pirate tech

[indigo falcon]

have to deal with interceptors that way, best to avoid

[static willow]

So the memory fragments will either spit out X class outlaw attack or S class regular Tech, or maybe we’re going to start getting X class regular Tech?

[terse olive]

yeah, those ones can be mean

[static willow]

You can just boost away from the sentinel interceptors

[terse olive]

This is one of my favorite expedition.
That and cartographer

[static willow]

Seriously, it’s a legitimate method, fight one, pop in your ship, boost away from the interceptors until you can pulse away, return to the planet and repeat

[terse olive]

it makesyou play differently

[indigo falcon]

depends on upgrades. you might not be able to outrun them. but usually can call in anomaly fast enough

[static willow]

I mean, it would take a lot of time, but if you are terrible at combat…

[halcyon stirrup]

Cartographer is the only other one I've done. I liked it a lot.

[static willow]

I’ve never had a ship that couldn’t out run them on full boost even with no upgrades

Like it might take 20 to 30 seconds

[terse olive]

it was great because it made me, at least, appreciate the mech even more

[static willow]

If you just boost straight away for a long enough, you will eventually get the ability to pulse out of the combat

Or anomaly

[static willow]

So much this, this expedition made me appreciate various game mechanics a lot more

[halcyon stirrup]

That expedition is why I started using the Minotaur. I'd never tried it before. I like it a lot now.

[static willow]

kek

laughs in only using other peoples Minotaurs

[halcyon stirrup]

Haha

[static willow]

I still have the geobay in my inventory

[halcyon stirrup]

I did that in this one

[ember flicker]

these memory fragments really rather give me 4 optical drill units rather than any weapon

[indigo falcon]

yep

reload 😛

[terse olive]

I guess you don't have such a good memory... badum-tsss

okay i will see myself out

lol

[ember flicker]

ill memorise how many optical drills i get before getting a weapon

game then proceeds to give me plasma launcher and geology cannon

is this a joke

aaaaaaaaa

[sly pond]

When I played through, I got a Neutron Cannon, an S and 2 A Class upgrades, and the buildable upgrade for it before any other multitool weapon fragments, lol.

[ember flicker]

i'm at 9 optical drills btw

[indigo falcon]

not bad, keep it up!

[ember flicker]

13 lol

literally 2 reloads in a row i get 4

[sly pond]

Wait, are they rolling identically?

[ember flicker]

i'm beginning to think this is not a great strat

no they're different each time

21 btw

[sly pond]

Okay, just making sure you are in fact that unlucky and something else isnt going on, lol.

[ember flicker]

am i being made a fool of

[indigo falcon]

NMS: knows what you need, knows how to not give it to you 😛

[ember flicker]

if i get to 30 optical drills, im just buying c class boltcaster modules or whatever

[indigo falcon]

how many units do you have?

[ember flicker]

15mil

[indigo falcon]

make 30 memory fragments, you can afford it

sell them all off

buy some decent (A class) modules

(sell off if you get 25 optical drills, that is :-P)

[ember flicker]

im already past 25

[indigo falcon]

terminals restock pretty fast, you can also check npcs coming in for the pugneum at chistor-olev

no I mean 25 out of 30 you will have in your suit at once

[terse olive]

how long do sentinels stay disabled?

[foggy cloak]

An hour I think

[dense basin]

Science performed earlier says until you reload or leave the system

[ember flicker]

rng is pain

[velvet quail]

Hey quick question Im just starting the game and wondering if after the expedition can my save be a survial save or just normal? I want a good dedicated end game save to have and normal feels way too easy to me after playing for awhile. I use some terrain mods too for more variety etc

[foggy cloak]

Its going to be a survival save

[static willow]

25 optical drills?

[static willow]

Converts to survival

Oh, sorry, catching up

[velvet quail]

I heard it was just turned into a normal save everywhere else online

[static willow]

It also ||becomes survival as soon as you complete the expedition||

[dense basin]

HG was clear that it turns into a survival save

[static willow]

The previous expeditions were turned into normal

This one will go survival

[velvet quail]

Oh ok neat thanks for the clarification so for a dedicated save it would be smartest to do the expedition for the rewards/stuff you get at start and inventory slots and because it will give me a survival mode save?

[dense basin]

Yep

You'll have all this lovely S class stuff

[static willow]

Correct, you go through the expedition and you are basically in a mid game/late game state without a lot of blueprints and without the Artemis quest

But lots of potential

I hope that || they’re not going to take the glyphs away or something||

[terse olive]

thanks to the community i was able to get the sentinal pillar and eggs so easily

[ember flicker]

my rng is genuinely the worst

[terse olive]

IamSoProudOfThisCommunity.mp4

[dense basin]

I'd have to go test, but I'm not sure the ||inventory loss|| occurs currently in the endgame, and that is a feature of survival

[static willow]

[dense basin]

Oh, is there an egg base on planet 1 too?

[static willow]

More to do

[dense basin]

I'm doing a speed run right now

[static willow]

use mine!

[terse olive]

not on planet 1. I just browse through the bases at the space station teleporter and I saw one named something like "Egg Base" or something

[static willow]

“EV’s easy eggs”

[terse olive]

that interloper created a nice cage around the eggs, so i can mine them without worrying about the baddies

[static willow]

I set that up before there were any other eggs bases in the list

Now there are like 12

[wraith badge]

Yeah I used that and after dying tried to find it again and it wouldn't show up in the list anymore.

[indigo falcon]

until you reload or warp or teleport. no other time limit that I have found

[static willow]

[indigo falcon]

unclear if you just pulse around what happens, don't recommend.

[wraith badge]

well I couldn't warp ... no warp drive at that point ... but should have known to teleport ... it's the age I tell you! 😉

[static willow]

Proud 8 looper here

I originally tried to do the eggs without cheesing it

Got t-boned by monstrosities

[wraith badge]

me too over two saves though

1st one bugged out so had to start another save

[static willow]

sorry to hear that!

I died in iteration four once

That was fun

Hundred percent was being reckless throughout though

kek

[terse olive]

okay i am so glad assisting freighter in distress doesn't just give you chromatic metal.
But it actually gives you useful things this time

[static willow]

Yeah, doing additional freighter battles is well worth the time now

[subtle meadow]

completed the expedition in 5:12

[indigo falcon]

other egg base names: "larval core farm" , "Whispering Copper Mine", "whispering egg farm"

[terse olive]

5 minutes and 12 seconds? whistle!

[pure elm]

Ive gotten freighter pirate battles but given the difficulty of the expedition, im mostly avoiding pirates atm

[subtle meadow]

you get what I mean

[pure elm]

Until i know my ship is well outfitted

[dense basin]

Pirates were my #1 sources of nanites and upgrades on my first go round

[subtle meadow]

eh expedition gives you plenty of stuff to get nanites with

[terse olive]

what are you sure? they keep on only giving me nothing

[indigo falcon]

also "safe eggs crashed freighter, pirate system" is another egg base

there are a fair number around

[subtle meadow]

there are enough nice people to do the dangerous milestones safely

[dense basin]

Quite sure. But I also became very piratical myself and picked fights with them

[velvet quail]

After expedition save in the survival dont you get acess to the artemis quests or other main quests?

[dense basin]

Yes, when it converts to a regular survival save

[foggy cloak]

You do

[velvet quail]

Ok so the expedition is like catchup for new players? Seems op to get all those inventory slots and multi tool slots and s ranks so quickly though no? Idk im still learning how the game works tbh

[pure elm]

The expedition isnt easy so i believe thats why

That and the s rank was only achieved by everyone working together to reach a given goal

I.e. yesterdsy for example upgrades were A rank

[wraith badge]

they were C when I started

[indigo falcon]

not exactly 😄 it's geared towards players with a little knowledge of the game at least, and since everyone must start off on the same footing with a fresh save, some of the grind you would do in the regular game is eliminated by means of milestone rewards and such; there's often nice perks like getting all the glyphs, to encourage players to continue with the save when the expedition is over

expeditions often start you out with an S ship of some sort or other

[dense basin]

6 started you out with a C

I upgraded it to S because I liked that ship a lot

This one I'd scrap in a heartbeat

(and have, in all my non-speedruns)

[indigo falcon]

the one I have is ok though a B (started with C, reset sometime after we reached B)... no great shakes there

[dense basin]

I just think it's ugly af. The round sail variant is okay. The rectangle one... UGH.

[indigo falcon]

huh! well I happen to like the rectangle ones 😛 😛

the hex ones or whatever they are called... mmm nope

[dense basin]

This one looks like it was strung together with wire and duct tape

[terse olive]

I am so glad we don't have to do derelict freighter in this lmao

that would have suck... at least for me

[dense basin]

We do

[wraith badge]

and I don't care as I fly 1st person so don't see much of the sails anyway

[indigo falcon]

uh we don't?

but a hint ||you can do any derelict including known easy ones.||

[foggy cloak]

||We have to lmao||

[terse olive]

oh no!

lmao

[dense basin]

I think the one in anchor 5 isn't bad.

[indigo falcon]

oh yes.

[foggy cloak]

Hooray, I reached teal colour!

[dense basin]

Welcome to the cool kids' club

[indigo falcon]

snickers in hot pink

[dense basin]

I initially read that as hot pants

[indigo falcon]

lolol

[dense basin]

whatever works for you, traveller

[indigo falcon]

there's definitely some leggings there in the appearance modifier that, hmm, well. 'nuff said

[dense basin]

haha, there certainly are

I bought the vy'keen pants as fast as I could

[static willow]

I went with the gauntlets for reasons

[indigo falcon]

I actually don't like any of the armoured bits, don't think I have any equipped

[dense basin]

I like the whole outfit

and it looks weirdly good on a gek. I tried it for fun on run 4

[indigo falcon]

welp different strokes, guess that's where there's all the choices. they could have more tbh

[dense basin]

I wish they did

[velvet quail]

Random question how often do they add new helmets / armors etc?

[static willow]

“Every so often”

[ember flicker]

barely ever

well

[terse olive]

alright good gaming session tonight

[ashen shore]

There is no set pattern really

[dense basin]

I'm saving up for a fancy QS helmet

[ember flicker]

for like torso, gloves, pants ect they've only ever added 1 set

[glass solstice]

What are expeditions btw? I just started playing NMS yesterday

[ember flicker]

basically a new mode where u do challenges to get stuff

[ashen shore]

Expeditions are a game mode where players complete various challenges in order to get unique rewards

Those rewards can be then later redeemed on any other save you have

Expeditions are a limited-time adventure

!exptime

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[glass solstice]

Oh

Is it hard though?

[indigo falcon]

one more thing about expeditions, all players start fresh with a new save in the same planetary system and usually on the same planet

[ember flicker]

this expedition is perma death

[indigo falcon]

it is or can be a multiplayer event. (people may choose to turn multiplayer off to avoid bugs or for better stability)

the current expedition sits in between "survival mode" and "permadeath mode", I've taken to calling it "survive-a-death" 😄

[glass solstice]

Sounds fun

Also, where can I get some kind of weapon? Just in case

[edgy heath]

What's the best way to do the sentinel milestones

[foggy cloak]

Shoot them

[edgy heath]

I cant argue with that

[foggy cloak]

Exactly, so go chop them 🔪

[edgy heath]

Na

I'm going to bed

[ember flicker]

playing this expedition makes me miss 9999 slots so much

[indigo falcon]

find a building, pick a fight with a drone, don't let the wave advance beyond 2, leave summoners (triangle shaped ones) alive

pick up green barrels when shields start to drop and not before, run inside when heat is too much

that's all

[exotic cobalt]

Finished the expedition yesterday, this one was kind of brutal

[indigo falcon]

don't forget to get the role! (see pins on how)

[ember flicker]

finally found a space station with a class boltcaster and the stats are abysmal aaaaaa

i honestly miss pre-next upgrades

[indigo falcon]

Kuches-Rire, A class boltcaster

[ember flicker]

i have no idea how they thought upgrade modules were an improvement

[indigo falcon]

Romestovot has an S

(why yes I did go to each space station in my list and write down all mt and suit upgrades for sale, isn't that normal? 🥴 )

[ashen shore]

No, it's based

[ember flicker]

tru

+1% damage, -15% burst cooldown on a s class module, im gonna lose it

the a class module is better stats aaaaaaaaaa

[indigo falcon]

then get the A class a few times

(save-reload)

[ember flicker]

ok i guess i overestimated the difficulty of this challenge

[indigo falcon]

oh?

got yourself all equipped?

[ember flicker]

i assumed sentinels did more damage in survival

since u basically insta die to those green freaks

[magic elbow]

sadge, noI NMS today

woke up n my wrist pain is stilla too excessive to play

😔

[velvet quail]

Was thinking if I do the expedition aren't I gonna miss out on the story?

But also theres no other way to do the leviathan stuff outside the expedition correct?

[dense basin]

correct

Once the expedition is over, you will be able to do the story in that save

But you can also have more than one save

[ember flicker]

finally done phase 4

[wraith venture]

you can either do the story once the save converts. or start a normal save now, do story. do expo after. there's plenty of time

!exptime

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[static willow]

Can’t believe I’m selling off a class modules

[dense basin]

Psh, sell anything you don't want

I've been selling S and been happy about it

[indigo falcon]

believe it! soon you'll be selling off S (like, any new memory fragments today)

[static willow]

Currently selling down my ship fleet

I’m actually going for a colors again because of paint costs!

Flashback to when you couldn’t change the color of ships

[indigo falcon]

uh? you still can't, only freighter afaik

[static willow]

Oh, I guess you’re right, I thought the paint was applicable to both

[indigo falcon]

nope, 5k nanites for freighter color only 😛

[static willow]

Well good thing I’ve been grabbing ships that I like the colors of

going to need to replace this hauler though

[indigo falcon]

uh oh. color scheme?

[static willow]

Black and gold or black and yellow

😜

Too much blue on this thing

[magic elbow]

and I even got a new ultrawide monitor I wanted to try out NMS on it today, 🥺

[indigo falcon]

dang it! enforced break. but the game will be waiting for you when you feel better. health first!

[magic elbow]

the expedition might not tho

[indigo falcon]

a few weeks left, and health is still more important!

[static willow]

Is it your mousing hand? @magic elbow

Have you tried a trackball? Or other ergo input?

There are a ton of “mousing” devices for people with wrist conditions

https://ergonomictrends.com/best-regular-mouse-alternatives/

But yeah, health is more important!

[magic elbow]

weirdly enough no, it's the other one, I have mouse sens high so I dun have to move it much, also yes healt > gaymin achievs
however thebig hand that currently hurts is the aame one ion use for tapping in osu! (and a few other rhythm games, although those are more balanced between both hands) it's also the one I almost had to go to thetown doctors with cuzthe the pain was unbearable, but that was over a year ago, I was hoping it doesn't resurface again ;_;

[static willow]

Yeah, it can be awful, a friend of mine had to get surgery for his wrist

[magic elbow]

in terms of ergo pointibg devices, I do have a drawing tablet for osu and art, but it's not much better

[static willow]

Big sad

[magic elbow]

yeah

[woeful ore]

Do the bases and things you set up in a standard playthrough persist in perma, or is it completely separate?

[indigo falcon]

I have heard that (with the possible expection of expeditions) all bases from all modes are cross-visible now.

BUT

you cannot view bases from one of your saves on another

[dense basin]

and that sucks

oh well, I don't actually mind building farms in every save

I get better at it

[woeful ore]

Thanks apergos and @dense basin - another thing I'm wondering about. Are the planet names / discoveries persistent? So by that I mean, if I went back to a normal save somewhere down the line, would I be able to see the planets I discovered?

[dense basin]

Yes, they are

Although there's a weird bug happening right now with some discovery names not sticking

[indigo falcon]

when the game works properly, yes. that's not true all the time ( 😡 ) but for example there's a "double-dash gaming" who is always first to discover the planetary system of the community weekend mission, his name is on those systems forever 😄

[dense basin]

ALWAYS first

I swear it's actually an HG account

[indigo falcon]

I don't think so but it is amazing

[static willow]

I always see that name too

[wraith junco]

Yeah ,me too.

.probably some nms streamer that wants to start expedition 0.0000001s after it goes live

[indigo falcon]

people camp in the nexus and wait for the weekend misson to go live

this is a whole thing

[wraith junco]

That too

[ember flicker]

flute constructed

[dense basin]

Go break the loop, traveller!

[indigo falcon]

let us know what happens.........

[ember flicker]

bruh the last milestone didn't complete

[dense basin]

What did you choose?

[foggy cloak]

Is it the optional one?

[ember flicker]

the call the leviathan one

[dense basin]

Did you talk to it?

[foggy cloak]

Weird, show a screenshot?

[ember flicker]

o nvm now it completed

[foggy cloak]

Ah, thank Atlas

[dense basin]

Yer, it gives you that momentary OMGWTFBBQ

[foggy cloak]

Oh my god what the fuck barbeque?

[gilded tiger]

They're a youtuber no?

[dense basin]

Indeed

[dense basin]

Couldn't say

[ember flicker]

now time for the tasty rewards

[foggy cloak]

They are tasty

I like the cape

[indigo falcon]

don't forget to get the role (see pins for how to do it)

[ember flicker]

and i crashed my game by spam clicking the frigate, oops

[dense basin]

I have mixed feelings about them removing comm balls at the anchor points

[indigo falcon]

I think you should have an option to limit the number displayed or turn them off

and I think players should be able to delete their own

[woeful ore]

Am I being really stupid, or can I not build a teleporter on my freighter in expedition?

[indigo falcon]

you can if you have bought the blueprint

[dense basin]

it's just hella expensive to buy

[woeful ore]

ahhh. I had assumed it was a default. It was in normal mode wasn't it?

[indigo falcon]

20 salv data

[dense basin]

Nope, but it was the first blueprint you had to learn

[indigo falcon]

yes well this isn't normal anything 😄

[woeful ore]

You're telling me 🙂

[indigo falcon]

spent 140 to get a teleporter powered at a base 😛

[foggy cloak]

Stonks

[woeful ore]

Currently on my 13th respawn I think. Definitely in double digits. I have maybe 75% of the objectives completed and I'm camped just outside of the second anchor port in my freighter terrified to go anywhere 😆

[foggy cloak]

Don't be scared ||Don't trust the eggs||

[dense basin]

lol

[woeful ore]

I keep getting attacked by sentinel ships. It's really weird - a couple of pirates will show up, I'll take care of them and suddenly boom a crapton of sentinel ships

[indigo falcon]

do you have a wanted level?

[woeful ore]

no not at all

it's never happened to me before

[foggy cloak]

Yeah, it happens when you missfire

[woeful ore]

ahhh ok, that makes sense

good to know why it's happening. That ended a great run for me a few nights ago 😞

[foggy cloak]

Also ALWAYS turn off multiplayer

[dense basin]

You can escape sentinels by going into a space station, the anomaly, or your own freighter

for future reference

[woeful ore]

I did that last night because space stations were glitching out on me, but is there another good reason to do so?

[dense basin]

MP is just buggier, and this is a permadeath expedition

safety first!

[foggy cloak]

Yeah, bugs go to level 11 in MP

[woeful ore]

It was so weird - there was a ship I wanted to buy in the space station and everytime I talked to the guy, the screen flashed and the ship respawned and the guy got out of his ship again, but it re-rolled the ship, so sometimes it was a B, sometimes a C etc

[indigo falcon]

here are things that can happen: you go to a player base with whispering eggs, some are gone (because someone in your instance took them). go to a space station and you can't talk to the npcs. taking random damage in a space station (!). etc etc

[foggy cloak]

Yeah, its all wonky, and lore certified

[woeful ore]

go to a space station and you can't talk to the npcs

That actually happened to me three times on different runs, but always in the same space station - coincidence?

[indigo falcon]

or a busy station

[woeful ore]

Don't recall the name, but it started with an M between anchor 1 and 2

[indigo falcon]

not ringing any bells but doesn't matter too much, way to deal with the bug is to disable miltiplayer or go to another station

[woeful ore]

Thank you 🙂

Would you happen to know what causes it to frequently disconnect from online services (PS5) - it did it to me a lot last night. I have no internet problems generally, but I had to frequently restart the game to get the green online dot and even then it only persisted for a couple of warps before dropping again

[indigo falcon]

I wish I did, it seems that ods has been... wonky lately

[woeful ore]

I mean, it's annoying, but if you're saying it's not just me, I'm happy because misery loves company 🙂

[indigo falcon]

probably not? but it's always best to troubleshoot from your end first

[static willow]

choke just paid the 2500 for the Atlas Pass

I figured I’ve visited Eissentam, probably time to have the Atlas pass V1

[indigo falcon]

dang only the v1 too...

[static willow]

ikr

[indigo falcon]

at this point is it worthit for antimatter from those barrels really?

[static willow]

Nope

but, the way the game mechanism works, random placement of the barrel when you build them will yield a specific item each time you interact, I always build bases to have a bunch of barrels for nav data

[indigo falcon]

oh

I usually have so much nav data at a point that it's not worth it

[static willow]

back when I was shiphunting anyway

[indigo falcon]

I will for visitor bases put barrels but not going to buy those in the expedition, not happening

and anyways if I put for visitors, they'd have to have the pass....

[static willow]

Somewhat of a conundrum

[smoky meadow]

hmm leaving my ship crashed my game

[foggy cloak]

Rip

[smoky meadow]

twice

[fringe agate]

Is it going to black screen, or just crashing right away

[smoky meadow]

black screen

[fringe agate]

Did you press anything, or did it just crash from there

[smoky meadow]

it just started loading for too long so i closed the game

i guess it didnt crash

[fringe agate]

Let it linger, saves can be extra long sometimes

Populated system?

[smoky meadow]

is on the starting system on the expedition

[fringe agate]

Yeah

[smoky meadow]

but this has never happened before

[fringe agate]

Turning off multiplayer may help

[smoky meadow]

i was just starting a new expedition save so i will just delete it and try with a new one

[fringe agate]

Okie dokie, good luck Traveller

[dense basin]

Well that was bizarre. In my speed run, I just got credit for one of the memory resonator points when I drove my nomad somewhere near it. I couldn't even see the grave on my radar yet

[woeful ore]

I was getting a similar thing to this - I would leave the ship, the screen would flash black for half a second or so and then I would be standing next to the ship.

[indigo falcon]

gift horse, mouth, etc 😄

[dense basin]

I can't get rid of the "loop collapse in progress" but I'm hoping a reload will fix that when I get to a spot I can do it

But yeah

😄

[smoky meadow]

well for me it was like at least 20 seconds then the windows program is not responding thing would pop up

[dense basin]

This happened to me in run 4 yesterday

I lost 40 minutes of progress

It hangs again every once in a while but I am a lot more diligent about the manual saves so it's not so bad

[smoky meadow]

okay so it happened again even on a new save ~~had such good memory rng too 😭 ~~

im gonna let it be black for a while i guess

[indigo falcon]

wait it out and see

[smoky meadow]

oh okay it loaded

good

[dense basin]

[smoky meadow]

the amount of time is taking me to find the anchor point..

[granite vine]

I found this pin to be helpful since a couple of them are kinda hard to track down, especially in a storm

#nms-expedition message

[remote thunder]

(it's a bot command, @granite vine , which everybody can use i think - !faq-expglyphs ,we try to keep it updated when a new exp releases)

[fringe agate]

True, I did disable that command in this channel though, as it is pinned.

[indigo falcon]

yep, just remember that the glyphs AND coordinates of all that are pinned in here, extremely handy

ssssooooo. if one went to get the memory for anchor system 2 (don't even go to the portal).

and then one has the portal glyphs.

and then one goes to any other world that's quiet, off the expd path a little, and finds the portal the usual way (monolith -> directions)

then charge it up, enter glyphs for each world one at a time, step through, step back.... I mean...🤷‍♀️ right?

[smoky meadow]

is there no fix for it going black? is happening every time i exit my ship the first time on a system

[indigo falcon]

I honestly don't know. maybe a help channel question

[final spindle]

how do i gather ancestral memories?

[gilded tiger]

Feed the creatures nom nom

[final spindle]

was thinking there would be another way besides that 😄

[indigo falcon]

that's the way. drop a pellet into a herd, then harvest from each one, then wait a little for them to be ready, harvest them again, repeat until bored, have enough, etc

one pellet lasts as long as you want to stand there

[wraith junco]

Can you unlock base parts from derelicts in expedition?

[indigo falcon]

I assume so. there's random loot in with the somnal dust so

[wraith junco]

I did couple derelicts and got none

[indigo falcon]

that's not atypical

it took me a number of (hight loot crate count) runs to get the 14

and some runs with 0 (over 50 crates!)

[remote thunder]

praise the Atlas, might get some better loot

[indigo falcon]

oh I have gotten. I'm stacking up the salv frigate modules these days (don't need them but others will). prng divinities have been giving me a break

[rustic axle]

These expeditions need to slow down omfg

[barren creek]

What went wrong?

[indigo falcon]

uh ohes

[final spindle]

when i place some technologies next to each other they get a colored border, does it give some kind of set bonus?

[indigo falcon]

yep!

a small bonus for adjacency

[final spindle]

is there a place we can see the bonus it gives?

[ashen shore]

my game crashed when i 'atoned for their sins' and steam says my save didn't sync upon booting it up again

[indigo falcon]

I don't think we can determine the exact numbers, no

[indigo falcon]

from what time is your previous save?

[ashen shore]

four minutes before
i saved before calling the leviathan incase something went wrong again

i was wondering if that crash happens alot

[pallid elk]

so..... first death and nms crashed...

[final spindle]

thanks @indigo falcon

[pallid elk]

i guess the loop is broken??

[indigo falcon]

uh

tell me what you completed

before the crash

[pallid elk]

literally started the expedition got on my ship, game told me to die for the hermatic seal and i did

and game froze and crashed

[indigo falcon]

(need a pc person here... anybody?)

@ashen shore you on pc?

[final spindle]

you cant open the game anymore?

[ashen shore]

yeah

[indigo falcon]

two people on pc, two crashes...

[tired pebble]

Did it crash to desktop or main screen?

[pallid elk]

main screen and froze

[ashen shore]

i'm gonna try again and see
i did have xbox gamebar recording at the time
nms probs doesn't work with it

[pallid elk]

gonna launch it again

[remote thunder]

ok so if possible, can we move these two issues to -help?

[tired pebble]

Yeah if you die in the expedition it drops you to main screen and you have to re-log into the game. The freeze I’m not sure on mine didn’t do that when I killed myself

[indigo falcon]

@ashen shore and @pallid elk want to join the -help channel on these crashes?

[ashen shore]

👌 i'll check if the crash happens again even without the recording

[woeful ore]

Am I the only one that basically becomes a mole when navigating a planet in a storm? Basically get underground and tunnel my way to a marked waypoint, calling in my ship when I get to the other end.

[granite vine]

Anchor 4 - I lived underground

[indigo falcon]

a number of players use this tactic, no worries

[woeful ore]

Pffft I thought I was special

[wraith junco]

If ground didint grow back i would do a lot of undeground bases

[random berry]

anyone got any coordinates on a good multitool?

[indigo falcon]

people starting the expedition today (or who die and need to redo milestones) get an S class multitool

that ought to be good enough 🙂

[random berry]

but i dont want to die

[foggy cloak]

Too bad 🔪

[indigo falcon]

have you died once in the expedition yet? @random berry

[woeful ore]

Someone posted a link to a cool infographic somewhere that showed the optimal placement of gadgets within a ship - I wish I'd saved it

[indigo falcon]

we know who does those but he's not updated it for the latest info... @sly pond another person interested in your work ^^

[final spindle]

damn 😦

[frosty pine]

Wait, what?

[random berry]

no

[frosty pine]

I should have waited a day before completing the expedition then 😂

[indigo falcon]

um. where are you in it?

[foggy cloak]

You have to die once to do the expedition

[frosty pine]

To be really specific you don't

If you got lucky and found a few hermetic seals around

[indigo falcon]

yes but that approach can be quite slow

[frosty pine]

You don't need to die until the end

[indigo falcon]

(don't spoil anything now)

[foggy cloak]

You still have to for the Milestone to complete

Or else iteration 1 will not be completed

[frosty pine]

||The end counts as a dead for the milestone||

[indigo falcon]

about the milestone: ||the final death will count as that milestone||

[foggy cloak]

||Huh, didn't know that, thought it was smth else||

[frosty pine]

Uhh this is going slow. Only 16% of tier 4