#nms-expedition
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I did that mission online and someone was somehow multiplying birds
Lagging everything obviously
And thank you for also letting them know. 
idk what was going on, i just followed the quest and flew to another planet asap...
it was way too busy for me down there
no problem at all
I really do not like this part
Yeah, I'm not sure I'm a fan of this expedition either
I just don't like having progress be halted
Twiddlin' our thumbs
Is graviton coil not working common?
Previous expeditions I could finish in one session, but now we have to wait for who knows what
Yeah I dont like having to wait
I think it would make it bearable if missions weren't time locked
I think it would go by quicker
Yeah like, i dont understand why time locked them
we're so back <3
jokes apart, I don't think any one team is gonna win — they gonna make all of us win
it's so dumb I hope they update the game
like the common enemy is that Hive Glass thing
where does it stand right now
once i got home updated i joined and ended up with weavers even on restart totally opposite answers quiz = nothing
i got two notices there were two patches
Finally it reached 1%
they didn't add much
sounded like hot fix
i have not had time to look if the new ship inventory bug was fixed, anyone?
doesn't look like it in the patch notes
oh yeah wonder where i can read htem at?
I'm stuck in a datacenter today. How are my Weavers holding up? We still on top? Or did the Royals finally pull it together?
i asked for standing no one has it ready - i guess its no big
yeah we still kicing names and taking ass
i got my ship running - pilot seed thingy- and bounced around the system a little bit
i thing I earned creature food
||The hive of glass SAYS YOUR USERNAME?||
That's both cool and someone creepy and menacing
I broke the spoiler
ghmm makin me show text
||aww the hive wants to be besties||
So if you partially spoiler mark your message
send it
Spoiler mark more of your message
ITLL HAVE YOUR MESSAGE PARTIALLY SPOILED
Yasss
Dear atlas that was cringe of me
I mean it's at the beginning after you get your ship fixed up
Core quests appearing twice per day?
no like
I broke the spoiler marking thing
Do we know what the Hive is?
like we know it's from the World of Glass cuz yk the name
but like
what is it
why is it
Somehow warped sentinels obv
Wait so phase three is just a community event right? Do i technically have to grind the swarm missions?
yeah but they're on a cooldown
3d phase 4th milestone, being precise
What's that
they need to lower the time frame 8h is way to long
1hr at the most
they aren't hard to complete
Is it available on Xbox yet? Does anyone know?
it's another plane of existience
is Corrupted Ichor any useful or nah
The core is not getting completed at this pace
It took a whole day to reach 1%, we only have two months
i am looking forward to how the generator might overcome the time locks, they usually do without notice.
Is that where the sentinels come from?
I thought the World of Glass was just a planet within the simulation, maybe connected to Korvax Prime and/or the Sentinels
Logs from abandoned buildings refer to it
yeppers
just out of curiousity, let's say i rip the parts of the crashed swarm sites. then what? are you supposed to get any loot for it? pick things up? interact?
because now i just rip the pieces off and head back to the Anomaly
You just rip them up and leave
Yeah I know they are on the cooldown, but do I have to grind to complete the prismatic core or is just a big community thing?
Just wanna know if I can be a lazy fuck lol
Anyone have any extra emeralds so I can quickly build indrum drive?
depends, if you're a royal you need to get to work NOW, if you're sage or weaver, sure, sit back
Emeril
It’s a community thing that we all contribute to but whatever team contributes the most is the one who gets celebrated
So regardless of who wins, the prismatic core will be completed?
btw what's the cooldown period, 8h?
So if you’re weaver lock tf in and keep us at the top
Yeah they’re on an 8h refresh
6-8 usually from what I’ve seen
Oh I am one, but it looks like we are doing nice last I saw
Yeah it’s still a community objective so around the end of summer we should have it done and we can all finish the expedition
Since it’s 8 weeks we have plenty of time until like August
can yall show me yours progression?
is this for me or this progress bar is too slow?
Not to be an ass, but can I wait like a month and then do the expedition once all the community goals are complete? Or do you have to actively contribute every day to get progress in the expedition?
lowkey i dont even want to contribute because i dont want royals to rwin
Lol
No you can just sit back and let everyone else do it if u want to work on your own save
But if u want to have your team in the anomaly at the end that’s fine too
It's not even that, I'm just busy in real life and also play other stuff
Ik I want the weavers up there so I’m locked in on this
What are we suppose to be doing with the gravitino coil and the swarm ship? It says to dismantle it, but how and what?
It seems randomly I can pick up a object near the ship, but that about it.
Ok yeah u don’t have to worry about it then
at least start the expedition and get to phase 3, otherwise you might not get the rewards at all if you do it too slow
I don’t know if I’m just being stupid but I just got off the spawn planet and I lost the object I was supposed to go to to continue and now I can’t find it any ideas
Alright; I can do that
right click the ones that have the little red icon over them. i think there's also one partially buried in the ground at the "front" of the wreck that you have to pull out
might help to turn off multiplayer while you do it
What step?
then interact with it i think? like there should be a "hit E" prompt
oh that's brutal
What kind of equiptment should i take when starting a expedition
You should have been attacked when going into space by the swarm
man what did we do?
Try by the space station
Did that now I’m gonna re log and see if that helps
im a filthy hippie i hate the idea of royalty and i hate that i was placed in the royals. it was the One Group i didn't want to be in
Ty relogging fixed it
you can take a look at this (quite comprehensive) list <#nms-expedition message>, but exp22 really doesnt take much besides basic resources. i'd also suggest taking a look at <#nms-expedition message> and its subposts: check the rewards per milestone, you'll see that you wouldnt need to bring hazmat gauntlet at all into exp22, while it may have been useful in other expeditions
i just don't engage with the implications and go with the flow, it was my last choice just for being red and now i just claim red superiority lol
i feel like the expedition's gonna take awhile.....
👍
red is the color of the blood of the working gek thou
think about it that way
it's just a fight for my faction at this point
i dont want to be the color of gek blood
Anyway weavers are the best
isnt there a "answer this to be this" list yet?
I just going to say, phase 2, mission 2, is just down right stupid. The Gravitino coil isn't functioning and the -154+ corrupted lazer boats take the fun away from it.
If we have to go OFF LINE to due a community task, in not really a community task.
see <#nms-expedition message>
I'll try again later
you don't choose actually
oh im here waiting i should start then
gosh that must have sucked 🙁 i'm sorry traveller. but actually, participating in multiplayer was never a requirement to complete expeditions, and still isn't.
Issue with the Shadow Above objective: I don't have a marker and I can't see it. No mods (ever). What to do?
sooo, I guess I messed up? I exited the atlas, the thingy didn't take any damage, atlas got rekt, I got on a mcdonalds sign planet, no idea what I chose in the menu and it seems I got full reset?
the bar must fill in to finish the last 4 missions right?
Just play it out, trust me
Wait does everybody get sent to the mcdonald's planet?
Anyone know if you buy a ship if the color will change to match your team?
Yes
yeah
pick one
using starter ship still?
That's awesome
i was sent theree too
yes
I was there before that mcdonalds was made, but I was also focused on the day/night cycle going bonker donkers
hai bk!
multiplayer disabled?
yes. I read and followed the pins
hi! 🙂 🙇♂️
guess what!
hmm.. try to reload restore point? how long ago was it? don't overwrite it again - first, how long ago was it? could you do with losing that progress and redoing it again, after a game restart and verifying game files?
i have assended to steam!
this sounds like something i had yesterday btw-- did you do all Prismatic Core missions once already? or is this the first one for the expedition?
access to steam experimental 😄
I exited in the space station and then came here to ask. so it shouldn;t be that an issue?
started from existing save?
well.. that was unexpected... I thought I'ma throw the computer out of the window...
Yes
mhm!
i started from switch and climbed my way to steam, and i definitely got help to get here so i thank them who helped me
Had the same thought lmao
were you around for the permadeath expedition? where it was literally one of the milestones to die with all of your stuff on you? 🤣
no, but I had the flashbacks from watching the nuclear garbage running down the hill 15 times in a row and I was about to cry
this is the brother i was yappin about
Countermeasures
For latest progress run !Tier in #nms-commands or go to: https://galacticatlas.nomanssky.com/poi/countermeasures
-#
Sample screenshot may not reflect latest progress.
To check in-game, per instructions:
Per instructions:
Visit the Prismatic Core aboard the Space Anomaly and undertake missions to contribute.
Purge, Restore, and Sabotage missions all have different impacts on the rate and balance of construction.
Expedition Time Limits
- Phase 3 - Countermeasures influences overall community progress. Do 3 Prismatic Core missions every 8 hours. Real world reset times: <t:1780041600:t>, <t:1780070400:t>, <t:1780099200:t>
- Your expedition progress is dependent on overall community progress also. The community must complete Phase 3 Milestone 4, before you can do your own Milestones 5, 6 and 7 (of Phase 3). If you select these milestones prematurely, the game refers you back to Countermeasures.
rahhhh
you're not the first player i've seen reporting this issue - and you're not the first one to whom none of the workarounds have been successful. i'd recommend raising a bug report when you get a bit of spare time. did you claim all the milestone rewards up until now?
i got a black sceen upon atlas's desstruction- had to restart the game
had no idea thai the sawrm core battle was scripted- took like 5 attempts at beating it, before realization hit.
reloaded the restore point and now I have the marker. played this gamse too long not to have immediately thought of thath.
this Core will be pretty big when it will be done 🙂
I'm good for now. marker is back after reload
the simplest workarounds sometimes are the best. that said, yeah, reloading didnt work for the other players. so you just reloaded the save you made in the station yeah?
yes
is it a bug that I need to find a different echo from what the white screen asigned me to?
you need to foind all 3/ craft them
Okay looks like we have the actual pace now of the expedition
If its really going at the rate of contribution it'll take us 100 days to beat it
Ain't that longer from the expedition duration whar
its only been like what, a day?
yes
1% for a full 24 hours so yeah
Oh shit wait that's the construction of the core? I thought it was just a hologram screen, not the ACTUAL core we're building
That's cool
I wonder if the sabotage missions are actually slowing it down
Def
honestly i wonder if we can even get the full thing, if we only go up 1% a day theres no way we can complete it
more people needs to get to that point, i think- i'tll speed up probably
there are ppl who probs didn't even start
What is the percentage at
**heyhey my bug fix is On the patch notes, "Fixed an issue that prevented Transferring Inventory items when purchasing a ship" !!! ** holy cow that is cool **
1%
HG is probably gonna do something
Maybe the sabotage was an oversight, it would make more sense to have it impact only score and not progress
oooh ooooh it happened again
Like, you know how on that map there's multiple "sectors" but we can only do 3? I'm thinking over time more sectors will be open at a time and we can do more than 3 missions at once
Yeah, maybe it's like a grace period to let people get started.
what do you nean, what isn't normal?
great feeling, really makes it worthwhile - "they're reading them!!"
it's a two-parter: there's no way HG will basically see us stuck at 70% on the last day and be like "Welp, no armor for ya'all" they'll probably gradually increase the counter to stimulate progress. but also, a lot of people don't have time to play during the week and will join in at the weekends.
hopefully
... the stars are missing
That is also true
I'm not worried about it, this isn't arrowhead :>
oh... i thoought ot was just an ermpty regionof the galaxy or sth....
Pick your bets- bug or feature
are we not allowed to copy corvettes into this expedition? mine is greyed out
Any recommendations on what to bring to the expedition?
nanites and atlantideum
the expedition gives you everything you'll need
anyone?
Nope
Not this one
damn.
I believe normal ships can't be copied either
so we supposed to make ships here or something?
yeah but isnt there dogfights
I'm confused on your point
are we not going to use any starship on this one
Yes?
so... all we have is the ship we start with?
Gab you do realize literally every milestone reward is a combat tech
i havent looked haha
Fair enough
So yes
So how long does Xbox usually take after steam for expedition release?
Either that, or you buy a ship, or you can try claiming an old expedition reward ship
so we can make one yeS?
Either way you'll be fine, just use the rewards and apply all combat tech, you'll survive the scenarios
im thinking a solar ship? i havent really tried that
Idk!
Yeah, that's the green team
So wait to progress with phase 3 we need to wait for new missions to come from the prismatic core?
Yes and no
uuum is it just me or is this expedition kinda
Not just you
yeah I do not feel like repeating the exact same 3 missions daily until freaking July 22nd
I cant finish the disassemble part whole area is bugged
is refiner blueprint not supposed to be unlocked?
the expedition was fine until this exact point, this execution feels so bad
Technically they choose when to release it, the progression on it is probably artificial, so just wait some weeks until it's "completed" and then you can finish the expedition
I'll let other people grind it for me basically
I mean, it was okay until this point, mostly for lore enjoyers. I didn't really experience anything new this update
No you're supposed to refine some materials dw
it feels so weird?
I think any expedition could’ve hypothetically been the best expedition in the world, but once you start asking people to wait weeks for the rewards to drop no matter what you do, it seems silly.
I don't think it's artificial. At this current pace it won't finish before the expedition does
Become a productive member of Traveler society and get drafted smh
Young people these days
I can't craft a personal refiner, the first progrression refiner thingy
yeah and we've done this before too but this seems like the worst one yet of this same case
Back in my day we had to fight eldritch gods in a half broken down hauler
it feels silly
It's that you're being told the best way that you're supposed to enjoy the expedition is by not playing the expedition. Not to mention the one expedition that's supposed to be more community focused still won't let you play with MP on without issues
I just placed buildable one, you realy dont need as many refined materials as in other expeditions
are we still mad about the free content?
Not mad, just disappointed in this update specifically
right I need to build it - Atlas how I'm used to personal refiner lol
I'm just confused fam...
yeah the refiner thing was weird too, some expeditions just give you a personal refiner on the go but this one had us battling for buildable space
i got to play about 1 - 1.5 its pretty normal so far.
there's an abysmal difference between that and fair criticism and disappointment
Put it like this: I spent a good deal of time making sure I was eligible for rewards. I’ve done that now. My options are to periodically do one of like five missions, or to just stop caring until the end of the expedition. One is tedious. The other gives me time to play something more fun.
so what now? wait for the next cycle of missions?
yep
i seems so
Apparently yes
yep. Or just wait 5 weeks until it's done
you're softlocked now like us
idk i don't feel like being the target of the ire
one of us. one of us.
I just don’t think “play something else” is a fun gameplay loop.
wdym?
Royals go sabotage 😄
there's no ire lol
who are you
I thought I'm going crazy, I couldn't figure out why I can't put a refiner, getting the "no edit permission" or something like that, wtf
So has the progress bar moved at all?
maybe?
just feeling pressure about the conditions of the event, trying not to, but the debie downer is wearing me out
I'll check again in a week I guess
Why should you feel pressure? Did you design the event?
Is it above 0%
1%
I guess it has progressed
Oh god they expect it to last the whole 55 days.
it just me - i am pretty sure - sorry team i'll be back -
I opened the game and realized it's just the same 3 missions daily and didn't even feel like looking at the numbers tbh, I just closed it
is it safe to exit to the main save? how does it work to go back to the expedition?
I think it's safe yeah? you just walk back into the expedition console to load the event save
ok, thanks
Pretty much same, I did the missions bc why not, but damn, it just feels hollow to have nothing to do in the expedition. Leaves it feeling unfinished
I'm 100% expecting a change to the system as a whole, but probably only halfway through
I'ma go hunt some exotics here... why not... can't buy them though... no units... I don't get it, I've used the transfer some tech and resources before starting, but got nothing in the expedition... could've sold some stuff here
And idk, I still think this game is a masterpiece, but to blindly ignore this being a bad expedition / update wouldn't be fair to the past updates. It's okay to point out bad updates and expeditions while still giving praise to the good ones
exactly
we give out this criticism from a place of love
there's an abysmal difference between this and "uuuuh are we still mad about the free content?"
Meh. Not the best, no. Sean! I want to refund this DLC!
I'll probably check out stuff added in previous updates between mission runs on my other saves.
good time for me to catch up on the pokemon stuff I missed out on actually
You didnt transfer 50 stasis devices?
It's not about me feeling cheated or scammed or insisting I deserve better or whatever, it's about how I desperately want to get more of my friends into this game, but this isn't an update I can point to and be like: "Look! Isn't this cool! This is why you should get this", because there is nothing of substantial value in this update besides some improvements to space combat and some more lore for those who care
TRUE! Haven't touched the Pokémon battles yet.
Oh, no doubt. But honestly if your friends aren't sold on NMS, I can't think of one update that'd change their mind.
The corvette one
I stand corrected. The corvette was cool but it was one thing in the game.
There's been several substantial updates that really stand out from the others, from pirate freighter space battles to the settlements. But this isn't one of them. And that's okay, but it's fair to point out its flaws
Yeah. Truck one wasn't a game changer either.
I just really got caught off guard with the lack of missions in the prism in general, it's taking our biggest flaw of waiting for community research and taking it up to 11
but as ususal I take every single NMS update as a tech demo for something cool in LNF so I'm sure this splatfast-esque faction system event will be WAAAAAY more polished by then
nope, just full stacks of materials and modulea, didn’t know what will be useful
Always transfer something you can sell for a ton of money
what's the key to fighting the giant hive ship in space?
Meh. I didn't transfer anything. The expedition rewards were very generous in this one to get you up to snuff.
I'm glad I'm not alone in feeling like some of the past few updates haven't been especially impressive
(not that they all have to be)
well I had full stacks of gold, indium, bunch of other things, though I better bring crafting materials
With the exception of Voyagers
so when are we building castles for each team?
I honestly haven't been impressed with any expeditions since Titan, but I think they just set the standards so high with that one
To be honest, I'm a little disappointed every time I see a new update and learn it's just an expedition. And I think I'll keep feeling that way until they stop being time-limited
Yeah, that one WAS pretty huge. I didn't even do the expedition but the impact on the base game was big.
It's so cool that this game gets a steady stream of content despite not really being a live service, but it also unfortunately has the FOMO of a live service
i mean you can clain crashed ships.....
starting planet
We can also claim previous expedition ships
Once I learned we were gonna be in this one for a while I went and got the Starborn Runner
ooh ooh, i had that one too 😁
and i just built my own
I just wish we could copy from main save
Like if we can claim sentinels and expedition ships might as well let us use our corvettes
i avoid claiming them, in case i wont be able to claim them on the main save.
(Royal 😉 )
Thats the neat part. U dont . Its invincible atm.
Hear me out: expeditions are always active. I mean, I think that between this one and the last there was enough time for a rerun, no? You’d never not be able to do an expedition.
yeah i was pretty salty scavenging parts for 3 hours and then discovering corvettes are disabled 
I've found that expedition mode counts as a separate save for this.
That would definitely be better, but I feel like as we start getting into expedition number 40, 50, 60 and so on, we'd start waiting almost as long as we do now for any specific expedition.
I’d like to introduce you to Warframe. Specifically, prime resurgence. There are a few select cosmetics tied to specific events which happen every once in a while. Crucially, there is a new one every month. Sometimes it’ll be one you’ve done before, but there will never not be one. Sometimes they add new rotations. There’s always a new one for someone, somewhere. Why not apply that here? If there’s a gap between expeditions, fill it with a rerun. I don’t see much point in dead air, especially after 20 expeditions
I like this persons idea for it
The game is only, what, 10GB? And expeditions are mostly recycled content, so I can't imagine it would be such a drag on the game to make them all permanently available
Where do i get pilot signature?
It should be in your ship inventory, automatically added after making the 3 fragment orbs
How to craft glass?? There is no frost crystal on planet
Silicate
Dig the ground
Then refine it :>
I wish we would progress past this countermeasures mission
Oh
is the main reward of this expedition the armor set?
Bro are star bulbs even on this planet
Yup
Also yup
If you select the milestone and follow the log, you can use the analysis visor's objective mode that will point you to the nearest objective point
In this case it'd guide you to star bulbs
Its not
Its screaming at me to make the sage echo when i don't have the bulbs
Plant icon, you are just unlucky
I could not find copper with that method either
Someone get me off this planet (starting world of expedition btw, bjorn)
Also, while the armor is the final reward, phase 2 gives you the multitool and backpack
you might have more luck there
gotcha, thanks!
Anyone know if the Purge mission is bugged. I keep getting the hive and not a swarm!
I was making a joke my guy
Had to pin the recipe now its pointing me at it
No clue who criscros is tbh
I failed to read the room XD
No worries lmao
...and my game seems to have crashed
When i crafed the echo
...or at least visuals stopped
Eyyy nice :D
Oof
Anyone know if the Purge mission is bugged. I keep getting the hive and not a swarm!
hey, it finally says Prismatic Core 1% done -.-
Yesterday I was assigned to weavers but for some reason today I was switched over to royals. I still have the blue ship and traveler. Has this happened to anyone else?
So what... 1% over 24 hours? 🤣
at that rate, by week 8 we'll be about 65% and they'll have to extend the expedition.
Or we'll just lose! Sean reveals that he actually just fucking hates us.
NMS Twitter at the end of the expedition: 🖕
peace among the worlds symbol
"Worlds 3 update confirmed!"
Can i change my starter expedition ship?
updating numbers
echo locators are your friend
i still like how it says "sage fragment 0%" though
phase 2 system has the ugliest interceptor ever 😄
do you have to copy the multitool? or do you get it via rewards?
Can do both but you can claim it for free via rewards
you get it during one of the steps
have no idea about rewarding it, i copied it out already, as you can have it in phase 2.
thats what im thjining
im not sure whetever to waitm or recreate it on the main save
tbf the expedition isn't ending anytime soon (usually i've done them withing a week)
This guy reminds me of gremlins 🙂
Anyone noticed the exploit to ignore Mission timers?
wut?
should probably cost quicksilver instead
Dont feed him after midnight
Elaborate
else it became... me. 😄
please do
Ooh. noticed me 😄
Nice the collossus radar can find swarm wreckage
idk if burning it at waste centers does anything yet
Also the gravatino coil works on combat supplies, didnt know that
so, is everyone stuck on phase 3 milestone 4?
yeah, we gotta wait for the bar to fill, and do missions in the meantime
my missions refresh in 4 hours? I can only do the 3?
That seems like it's gonna be slow progress
is this gonna be a common theme
ah, ok. That's kind of annoying 🙁 And the normal missions from the anomaly don't exist right now
disable multiplayer
i did
Now report the base terminal
just go in the base, report the terminal and it'll disappear from your game
bro
look for the closest one
there's also the option of blocking NMS' internet connection through windows defender, but that's a bit more convoluted
you're in no rush to complete though... looks like phase 3 is gonna take a while
yep
honestly, if possible somebody should simply build a base on the starter planet with a bunch of large refiners next to the collective spawn point
seems to be on an 8 hour rotation give or take.
bro i've already reported 20 bases why
Wait....we cant copy our ships this round o.0?!
this is ridiculous
I'm at phase 3 milestone 4 and I still can't copy my ship... so I'm guessing no
No - they don't want you to be overpowered when facing a new foe, I guess
they do not disappear from the report menu when i report them
dang....
why are people allowed to swarm the expedition planet with bases?
I cant even make a refiner
i reported all 8 of them
nope. you can still claim sentinel interceptors however, and if you have any expedition reward ships you can redeem those at the anomaly
corvettes are off limits, they're not buildable in this expedition
can i just end it
Good idea. TY. Almost wasted time souping up this crappy fighter.
why do you need permissions to place down a temporary refiner anyways? i really hope they patch this so people can actually play
build where your ship is
So am I gonna have to wait until the full core is constructed, which could be weeks later to complete the expedition?
Yes
That's actually interesting for an expedition
it's a community effort sort of thing, except everybody's doing sabotages
what is burried swarm debris?
well may the weavers win
it is but it does also increase the waiting time. i both do and do not like it
Do they not want us to win 😔
do i lose out on anything if a faction loses?
is the herald any good at combat?
I think the winning faction just gets a huge well done or something
the winning faction gets memorialized in the space anomaly, that is all
I pray weavers win
well this is not ominous at all
It reminds me of Unicron a bit
i'm a weaver myself, but i do try to sabotage as few times as possible so that we may Actually get to build the thing while ensuring our victory
Which would be better for this expedition? Wraith, herald Runner or Speeder?
cool i just didn't want some kinda of everyone pick this faction lol meta
I'm not bothered who wins tbh
factions are randomly predetermined but it does seem like there are more weavers currently, for whatever reason
I just want that sweet cool armour lol
i'm not bothered that much but i may as well help out my faction when needed with the score controlling
the concept of sabotage is stupid, unless the completion bar gpoes of off number of missions completed
it goes off of points
it's a test of whether or not we're selfish enough to get the atlas killed trying to memorialize ourselves
People will likely find huge streamers and copy them on what they put to help them
oh darn.....
sorry everyone, i had to do one sabotage for a mission.
corrupted ichor: useful for something (apart from the 1 quest) or just a pile of units?
seems to currently be a pile of units/fun collectible
not sure- i keep it for now
it's gonna be earnable outside the expo as well due to planetary swarmers still Existing
can it be combined with anything in a refiner?
i haven't tried it
I don't have a large refiner yet 😄
How do the different swarm wrekcage parts sort at the waste plant?
I might go and figure out how to build an S-class ship... I never really used the station thing to build a ship
The heck is hapoening at the ||fallen swarmer||
5 trillion sentinels
Is this what they had to deal with in the war
fixable by turning off multiplayer in case you're really not in the mood for dying in the crossfire
Just go and find a sentinel ship
you'd need to salvage a few interceptors to get the money needed for that. you'd have to buy at least three ships and extract a part from each, and since you have no faction rep the S-class engine core will cost you 12000 nanites
put it down right next to your ship.
i'd recommend you simply get an interceptor instead honestly
yeah, I've already got an S-class sentinel, but I figure I might try something new while I'm waiting on this community goal
fair enough
the starting planet has a class a ship marked
oh right... and then I can't really transfer the ship to my main without paying more nanites
I guess S-class sentinel it is
it works like Pugneum. refines into nanites at 5:1
curious deposits :3
crashed swarmer planet has 'em
if you’re in a populated area look for bases named nanites farms as well
yep
doing all 3 missions every results in a net +5 for your faction and a net +1 for the other two. so i just do all 3 missions
is it possible to send items into the expedition after you've started it?
i don't think so
makes sense
considered bringing an entire load of runaway mould to refine for nanites
but it really isn't necessary right now
i've got the Wraith ship so i'm set in terms of combat, i think
could technically farm them, as i've mentioned
what's in a curious deposit?
runaway mould, which refines into nanites
you get 10,000 from a phase step, plus there are so many dissonant planets you can just refine nanites through the Atlantideum > Pugneum > Nanite chain (not to mention radiant shards are like 50 each iirc)
oh, is the new expedition live already?
true, but i'm lazy
since yesterday morning sometime
yeah
radiant shards would be more effective if you don't wanna go for CD's
neat. which faction is winning?
what's the easiest way to get a sentinel ship these days?
Weavers, the blue team
search for either bases or echo locators
Its becoming mid imo, people keep building bases over the areas we need to go to for quests and its becoming a hassle removing them
hello games genuinely just needs to disable base building for expeditions
Fr
kill the Dissonance Resonators on a dissonant world until they drop an Echo Locator, burn that on a dissonant world and you unlock the camp and get a guaranteed Dissonante Spike that leads to a salvaged interceptor
yep
ok so there's no faster way
that's the fastest possible one unless you go to a base that has an interceptor marked and quickly get it from there
It'd be pretty cool if players found a way to balance all 3 factions to end up with the same score
Dang i forgot how much money you get from slaughtering cargo pods
it is quite fast since it is a 1 in 5 chance they drop the Echo Locator and you need the Inverted Mirror drops anyways
Runaway Mould, which when refined gives you nanites. direwasp disintegrator has the resources mined bonus technology which you can supercharge, along with the core mining laser tech, which should give you the maximum bonus to resource extraction in the smallest amount of time possible within this expedition
and then you go to the crashed swarmer planet and farm them. i had a base there called E22 - Local Harmonic Camp Outpost which has a curious deposit on a nearby hill, if you really can't find any
yeah, a good curious deposit area can have upwards of 20,000 mould. decent nanites
mhm
I found a base just now with curious deposits inside the base 😄 pretty cool
get the Mk1 or Mk2 personal refiner so you can refine as you go
Just buy/sell the technology at outlaw systems
and yeah, the yield supercharged to +88% helps
don't forget to also boost the main mining laser module, that'll give you another +25%
a more consistent but slightly slower way to farm nanites is to build a base next to an ocean, put down a few automatic fish traps and check them every hour or so. catch and release can give good nanites
Do you guys copy your multitool?
i copied my combat multitool
really?
which, i'm glad i did
as far as i know, yes
normally i do, but the direwasp disintegrator was a good enough base tool to use this time around
but it doesn't show on the item
and it does feel like that is in fact the case, in my experience
it doesn't, but the technology system in the game actually hides quite a lot from you
i have my little S-Class alien multi tool as a backup though. it has all my combat stuffs
I wonder how much time I will have to spend on the event to get the rewards
but yeah. core modules get the supercharge buff to every stat they have, which for mining laser-type modules includes the Resources Mined stat
we're all time gated by Countermeasures... so who knows
Which team have the most members right now?
up to Countermeasures it doesn't take long. after that, nobody knows
I got thrown to the blue
Weavers
welcome to the club
The new swarm wreckage does work for processing btw
Yay
yippie
The green one gives 90 ichor on manual process
doesn't look too profitable but i guess it's alright
maybe on a planet with more of them
Also you can process combat supplies which is funny
i'm saving all the ichor just in case. i got a feeling the last step is gonna say "collect 100,000 ichor for the atlas" LUL
30 nanites and antaladium for process a combat supplies barrel
Btw, finding abandoned planet and just running collecting eggs is nice nanite method, especially if the planet have dissonance
we'll get a hidden step that shows up after we're done :p
Good idea
how long does it take before the curious deposits respawn?
in my experience it's around 20-30 minutes
as somebody who has two farms on her main save
teleport to another spot then back again and it instantly refreshes
really?
you can make it super optimal by making bases in 2 different curious deposit spots
assuming nobody else touches it about an hour but everyone and their rented cousin is farming the stuff so it might just stay poofed out a while
Curious deposits are tedious and time consuming
warp to base, collect mould, teleport to the second one, same thing
you could find a base that already has them
good multitool upgrades and food buffs can speed up the process
The heart of a swarm wreckage gets 100 ichor when processed in the crusher
and having lots of refiners to stuff mould in
well i don't, personally
class upgrades, buying upgrades from space stations, etc
yeah
yeah
I still don't have anything S class lmao
I guess I will just find mechanic planet and farm the animals in there
Anyone else having issues trying to use their Gravatino Coils to dismantle the fallen swarmer?
man everyone is having issues in general
left click on a part a few times to break it loose
this expedition felt like it had half finished code everywhere. and my game keeps crashing because it's never had this many players in one spot.
i'm a little frustrated.
wait so is the expedition unbeatable rn, cause we have to wait for the community progress to finish it up?
the missions for the expedition refresh every 8 hours. that's why it's gonna take two months to complete it
i see i see
Tried that a few times, nothings working. I even left for an hour or two. Reloaded. Still not able to pick anything up from the swarmer.
Potential bug?
also the factions are completely disproportionate
poor sages ain't even got a fair fight
my dad was put in weavers and is wasting his time, which somehow makes me more mad given they're number 1
idk man
sean murray might have figured out self forgiveness and stopped caring what people think
idea was awesome, execution has been so poor
New expedition?
the most success i've had was with:
- aiming around until i saw the pickup circle on the reticle
- holding down RMB until the part came off the swarmer
It's not a coding issue it's a server issue imo
TELL ME THE SECRETS
ECHO LOCATORS
(More like what it is)
probably but even then there's code they can deploy to fix that
How long will it still last?
Havent played for weeks now
two months or so
two months. started the other day
funnily enough with the current pace it does look like we're failing
slow crawl buildup to something unknown, and the expedition was disappointing enough so far that the suspense is non-existent
Oof
I’m on steamdeck. Not sure what RMB is
not even two days in and i'm ready for it to be over ngl
Heh
the other expeditions were better imo
that would be a laugh, if the community goal failed, nobody gets the rewards
That doesnt sound nice
right mouse button, the one that lets you pick up objects with the gravitino coil
wish i could have finished the corvette expedition. got lost and couldn't find which star i was supposed to go to and gave up lol
Whats up with HG and their slow af expeditions rn?
do a few quests to get yourself off the ground. do your first encounters. get a sentinel ship because the rust bucket that you get provided with is not gonna be fun to fly around in. then do missions (preferably we might all need to avoid sabotages, if this keeps going the way it is right now), get points for doing so and work towards the grand goal
aside from helping with construction, do we get anything from doing a lot of missions
mission rewards
how do I get my hands on a sentinel ship again
how long is this expidition on for,
Dang this chat look more tedious and than my work slack channel lol 😂
It's live rn?
it’s been live since yesterday
look for Dissonance Resonators (the purple pillars guarded by corruptet Sentinels), specifically the ones with Echo Locators. pop one on a dissonant planet, go to the marked Harmonic Camp, solve the little math problem and Locate Dissonance Spikes. if you get a low class, get it anyway. you may need the money. if you get an A, keep it and use it
So
Its not an ordinary expedition with rewards
It wasn't live when I checked at launch
it is live now, has been for a while
up until the third phase it plays like a regular expedition, after that our current objective is closer mechanically to a helldivers 2 major order
oh so we gotta wait for phase 3
Heh
Okay
a... two-month major order
is Opredn the starting system?
Well
I will do it
Why not after all
we gotta work towards it, more like
presumably located on planets with Dissonance?
I figure the starting system might have some bases indicating some crashed sentinels
yes. without dissonance you won't find any of those
it does have an A-class one afaik
damn i should really mark mine. it's too good to be missed out on
You know what if we're meant to fail
i don't think we're meant to fail
do you have an S-class
Idk it's built like a knockoff helldivers and what is that game if not failing successfully
Any hotfixes yet?
literally fighting the hive 😭
Still not sure what’s wrong but I genuinely can’t pick up Jack shit with my gravitino coil
u dont pick it up
the next best thing: an A-class with two supercharged slots right next to each other
ah cool
I have been but it’s not doing anything all the pieces fell off but there’s nothing else showing up after
Dumb question ||where's the hive of glass? I went up to it before i had the mission to do that and now i can't find it again||
make sure u get it right in the back and the front
the eye
and the engine
theres also a part inside the engine
For the drone, tear the insides out like an animal with gravitino gun.
actually not inside the engine but in the ship behind the engine
Does it show up again in other systems
||will be unlocked later, currently the first encounter is the only one you can have||
...i saw it in the system with ||the crashed swarmer||
||kills you near-instantly and is only there to be scary and foreboding. For Now...||
it's in every system you warp to
||when i went up to it it just teleported off||
strange. haven't had that happen yet
do you have the ||Devoured|| milestone complete?
And my C class fighter
No
odd
Im tbe chosen one fr it saw what i did in my exterminator expedition
Thanks, finally got it figured out.
So, do we still not know what these Traveller fragments are?
they're fragments of the average traveller's entire personality
I meant whet either is keeping track in the prismatic core, sorry
as in, how the score is calculated?
Yeah
or how the fragments are assigned?
Those words
I can’t get my Xbox one series S to update NMS. Can someone reach out to me who might know another way of fixing the issue besides the obvious turning it off and turning it back on again. I did that and I did the hard reset. I even uninstalled the game and reinstalled it again but it still says “version mismatch..” 🙏🏽
How its calculated
by points. not by the amount of missions done themselves but specifically by the amount of points each of them yield (or take away)
upd isnt out on xbox i dont think
Oh
Anyone know how to build a corvette in this expedition? I tried going to a space station and it wouldn't let me.
you can't. it's unfortunate
also whats the progress on polos machine
next to none last time i checked
Thing is, I have definitely encountered people in corvettes
so they're getting their hands on them somehow
Gonna try on steam deck but im very nervous. I've never joined an expedition.
possibly from outside the expedition, simply warping in by portal code?
ya
True this probably is in the normal mode of euclid if that McDonald's portal exists
doing sabotages does slow down construction efforts by 22%
Hiya genuine question about starting an expedition on your main save but is anyone else not able to copy their ship over or is that intended for this expedition?
that is intended. you should go find a sentinel interceptor
or redeem a reward ship at the anomaly if you have any
So how long is this expedition going to take?
It's up for 2 months it seems
are dissonance resonators rare or something
...huh
endless moral dilemmas
however long it takes people to do the faction missions in phase 3
22% in rate reduction if everybody does it by the way
Why is phase 3 counter measures such a grind
We must all do it together
i think they might have expected more players as well. but yeah, there's also the expectation of us not being so selfish
I'll help in anyway I'm able.
which, currently it does appear to me as if we are spamming sabotages at every opportunity. hell, i'm guilty of it myself
That’s how I’m playing so far pretty enjoyable
It's gonna take weeks
third part is gonna take forever, is the catch
Construct the Prismatic core? This is gonna take weeks sometimes I just wanna speed run it coz I'd rather play on a actual save and not this
That's because this last part will be ongoing for many weeks most likely
Huh. Why's that?
Anyone else Team Royal?
(I'm not there yet)
I find expedition boring
ye s but the 3d one will take months
Then go play on your actual save
Me
I want the rewards
That's good to know. I have the lcd model.
Think by time August 10 yr anniversary drops it’ll be important what team we’re on
Then don't bitch about it being boring.
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wear my green guys at
I was fishing around for a while but managed to get the Oled, they had ran out of the LCD by time I went to purchase
The 8 hours timer is hell, any idea if they are planning to change that? :(
Nah I have a right to express opinion
Currently waiting for the steam machine. Got the steamdeck and haven’t looked back at a console. PC all the way.
Im board too...
Doubt it
Of what
Damn, was hoping they would still keep it relevant
Though i dont know anything
cant hop on someone tell me the progress so far and give it to me gently 
Board of waiting 2 hrs.
1% last time i checked
||WHAT DO YOU MEAN THE HIVE OF GLASS CAN DESTROY AN ATLAS STATION IT JUST KILLED GOD||
For new missions? That's another reason I'm not enjoying this one
Yeah I'm suprised it discontinued but yeah im gonna try my best.
gng what
It's ain't god more of a anti virus I guess
||iirc atlas runs the simulation, closest thing to god we got||
ya they made it go so slow
||(to be fair it only ever archived it, that's what Glass does. and it's a small part of said god. still impressive but not the end)||
||yes but it's mostly a anti virus more of a protection thing to keep the simulation intact or something I don't remember||
||the ATLAS is the server this universe is running on, so||
Ive never liked the Atlas anyways. How do i join glass?
found a sentinel B class 39+27....
||so more of a hosting service I still wanna know what the real world is like||
...why are all of my colors locked off in the character customizer?
I can only choose this one shade of blue
that's intended. we're all meant to use our team colors
We have team colors? Huh.
we do!
Congratulations weaver
welcome to the weaver club
I'm a sage tho cause green is cooler
Go green
i'm a weaver which is fitting given the amount of time i spend building bases and corvette/freighter interiors
Was I randomly assigned blue?
you were
I religiously scan data so sage fits me too
sage is close but i'm still more of a weaver, probably
even though i do like simply warping to random coordinate codes (or deciphering the ones the game gives me ciphers for) and exploring those solar systems
and taking lots of screenshots, of course
Is there a new ship or just parts for the corvette customization? Because I saw a black red ship what’s that
I just build bases and collect galaxies.
Expo is a ruthless time sink. I’m going to pop in once a day just to hit the three missions then go back to my main game. Idk why I’m bothering I’ve got the gun and don’t like the new customisation options but I’ll be cold and dead in the ground as a weaver before I see any of you other arbitrarily picked titles get out in front of me. TEAM WEAVER
Speaking of, who’s in the lead atm?
Weaver
i've got good news
great news, in fact
By about 300 points
So I'm on the construct the prismatic core step do we have to wait for 54 days or something
Team Royal FTW
HELL YEAH ALL HAIL WEAVER, THE ONE TRUE ARBITRARILY PICKED COLOUR AND TEAM NAME!
...sorry that was when i checked 30 seconds ago they're winning by about 1,500
I don’t know you, I’ve never met you, but f you and your random colour and title
we have to keep doing missions. preferably without Sabotage as that slows down progress by 22% per player
I think the rng teams must be borked, or maybe people are more likely to get other teams in different time zones?
😐
(but that would require a ceasefire agreement of sorts as everybody wants to get first place)
I think itd actually based off your choices in the intro sequence
So if we avoid sabotage it’ll bring everyone up quicker?
it will
sabotage rewards are genuinely bad design for something like this
like, doesn't even reward the team doing the mission any
BUT, your team might not get teh prestige that's supposed to stick in teh anomaly.
it'll let us complete the expo a lot quicker if we avoid sabotage
It even forces you to run 1 for the completion
My choices were gentle pragmatist, I think weaver is a bad option if that’s the case. From what royals are supposed to be I’d assume I’d be closer to that
if it was like +3 to team, -1 to the other teams then maybe
Welp guess Ill wait then that or abandon the expedition see y'all in a couple of weeks based on the progress meter
it's not. it seems to be randomly assigned
Ah
Yeah so we all only do it once to get the expo done and then just grind the other two for the next two months. Peak content, well done HG
So sabotage is actively sabotaging the entire thing
There should have been a split, progress for EXP, and group prestige.
Yes
after a day and only 1% construction? I uh, don't entirely think this thing is gonna be completed
I can't imagine this rate of missions is gonna be kept up
Then again, maybe a guaranteed fail could be part of the design....
Just do the other two daily like brushing your teeth and we’ll all get thru it together. But we also have to bitch relentlessly so HG never tries this shit again. Imagine if this is the core gameplay loop for LNF? We have to be emphatic that there’s already enough timegating in quests like the living ship, although there it’s semi justifiable and skippable by moving your system clock. This is just annoying.
I said this last night: we are the swarm. We’re mindless drones completing repetitive and mindless tasks in the aim of a group win, that’s literally a hive or colony.
Ive seen helldivers community say this every time there's a seemingly insurmountable task and they pulled up their boots and got it done
then again im not putting on my boots
I did my part with my
checks math
6 total points
Just treat it like the QS missions. Check into your expo account once a day then go back to your main. So many MMORPGs do this, it’s engagement farming. In lieu of engaging content it’s a time gated grind. It’s a bit gross but they already do it, and it doesn’t have to be a chore bc at least the missions are quick.
there is zero chance i'm logging into nms twice daily to do missions for two months i'll be so real
Imagine if they were making us do survey missions ugh
yeah I don't do those anymore either (and at least they can build up for a few days...)
I totally get that, if I wasn’t already trying to get all the Pokémon titles and unlocks I wouldn’t even be playing atm. Waiting for more subnautica 2 and crimson desert
I only ever did QS missions to get my living ship and I think one armor set
So we’d both be in the same group
Anyone else have this?
i did QS missions for a while, and then gave up on them
cant stand the standard ship so i made a solar one
Also helldivers has a very active game master, they seem to just have put us on set and forget. I assume they’re giving themselves a bit of breathing room while they work on content, I’m willing to bet they haven’t even completed the end game for this expo yet.
I like having really vibrant gardens so I do all the QS to unlock plants for my base
i'll admit to some light save-editing in that regard
No need for it to be an admission, you bought the game, play it how you want 🙂
yeah i dont understand anyone getting mad at that lol
I’ve used services to unlock expo rewards bc my OG save file which I started the month the game came out got broke and I lost literally everything including expo and qs rewards. I used some service to unlock the things I wanted.
That wasn’t so bad. The base I’d built as a memoriam for my little brother is gone, that stung. Used to just idle there when I was missing him.
while i dont do save edit, I do mod a lot
Not salty, these things happen btw
Backups and versioning is the way to go with stuff you really care for
yeah, generally prefer it too
holy found an A class interceptor 😄
Yeah, I do that now. I still hold out hope that the HD from my old ps4 still has a local copy but no idea how I’d access it.
mostly qol mods and some cosmetic, but my favorite is changing the suits voice to something I like.
Are we ever going to get an expedition where we aren't expected to jog 500 miles from our ship for the game to let us place down an extractor?
Disable internet or firewall block the game before starting any expedition
Having multiplayer off is not enough because discovery services still downloads bases
Feels like an easier solution is to just give us a blueprint for Portable Refiner at Expedition start for the same price as the refiner usually is
Really shouldn't be a recurring issue like this.
An easier solution would be to not download bases by default if you have multiplayer off 😂
If you can't build a refiner, try to go back near your ship site and build it there, there's a bubble around the ship that allows building regardless of other player bases.
agreed!
Honestly it should be a solution independently of Multiplayer, while that'd be a good solution I'd rather not be locked off from playing expeditions with my friends just to progress.
anyone know which base is next to the A-Class on the starter planet?
Also having a portable refiner would remove the funny moments like trying to get the stuff inside and randomly getting thrown to the air by a gravity anomaly
feel like having the game be functional takes priority over funny moments
anyone else unable to copy their ship from main save?
Yeah, that's what I'm doing, still an issue that the game doesn't communicate that to you.
it's not available
Especially since you have to go a good distance just to get a metal to refine since the game won't let you mine close to your ship
fwiw, dismantling rocket launcher will give you 100 copper+50 condensed carbon
some sort of message saying that its not available or removing the text saying you can would be nice so that i didn't waste time trying to figure it out
And this isn't something the game guides you towards, which is still an issue
All resources needed to fix the ship were close tho. I think everything was at most 600m away from the ship.
like my issue is that all these solutions are "do this thing the game doesn't hint towards"
This expedition is fairly bad for newcomers
I'm not even a newcomer lol
There have been other more akin to new players
it's just kind of shit design all around
I've been playing since Aquarius, and I've done almost all of the expeditions since. Just feel like these issues should've been patched up in some way by now.
has anyone tried doing the expedition with other players? So far I haven't seen any activity that would benefit from having a team
Tbh this expedition hasn’t been too bad so far, though I have seen a few instances of booleans not calling the player’s name correctly.
Otherwise it’s nothing a quick google search couldn’t handle if I forgot mechanics
Favorite annoyances in NMS: Anomaly NPC's closing their UI when you buy stuff... just why.... Hold E to do X, why not an option to tap E for us long timer players, with a warning that you won't get a second chance to think. O, and multiplayer sync issues.
Isn't there an option already to disable the hold interaction thing?
yes
I feel silly now, or just senile.
tbf it's in the accessibility options, which I feel a lot of players might not check.
Feels so much better
I always check those options in any game because sometimes they have settings that should not be accesibility specific ones 😂
Also, for those going into expedition, keep the shot gun and rocket launcher. Those little swarmers a pita to hit some times.
Like, those should be normal gameplay settings
darn right
Is it true that this expidition is time gated?
Like most expeditions, but yea
nods yes, missions have a timer til you can do them again.
No like theres a 6 hour thing?
8 for teh first one, then I got a 4h timer after o.O
So I can't get the armor after doing the regular 5 expiditions?
It's always 8hs and not based on you
Like next one should be in 48mins
Regardless of when you did your missions
Apologies, Deciding whether not to play for the armor
O_o rly, I did mine at lunch like 4h ago and their open again. Correction, in another hour.
8 hectoseconds?
there's only 3 phases in exp22 - we still have 2 months to complete it - well before then i believe we'll have community research done
dont worry
hop in
oh damn there really are only 3 okay
do your progression, no need to rush
plenty of time to get your blood going with a souls game while waiting too.
Okay, Am coming back then, Taking a break from subnautica
||The atlas station getting blown up, was a nice touch though.||
well technically my base is underwater
i was about to lose it when i thought my save bugged out
but then all the stuff i built/customized were there
I reloaded and tried to win 
Hit the middle! Hit the middle! Hit the middle! Hit the middle! Hit the middle! They said lmao.
was about to as well, the white flash tho reminded me my cod days getting flashed til next friday.
Since we are like waiting forever on the completion of the prismatic core and we are just doing out daily chores. Has anyone found a location for an S class sentinel yet? I own a A class already but have only found B and C after that.
you can just upgrade it to S
A little lost again.
Just completed 'Sabotage' and am on 'Countermeasures'. It's telling me to go to the core and take missions but the 3 missions are done. How do I continue this?
True. just gotta farm some nanites I guess.
Hurry up and wait. It's a community goal.
The idea is to get you to log on every few hours to repeat those missions.
welcome to the same spot as everyone else
So.....my expedition is done till then?
Basically. The idea is to get you to log on every few hours to repeat those missions. But it'll complete eventually regardless of our help, as it always does.
Ah. OK. So the missions do have a timer
Now I see the timer. TY guys.
We did make it to 1% of progress lol
countermeasure is so lame they need to lower the time frame
All missions are lame tbh 👀
If it were closer to 10m I would not of logged out. 40m is too long so sit around
If only I could dismantle space toilets more frequently
Hah. Fun bug: just summoned a corvette onto a small landing pad in the Anomaly…
I don't necessarily find the missions lame, just the lack of variety
and also the little amount
I see others replicating the bug
Do we just need to wait for it to hit 100% and just farm missions?
remember how last night weavers had 100 more players, now its 400 more
You have to do the former. You don't have to do the latter.
how in the fuck
i think the system has to be favoring them
last I checked those numbers were at 5000
Former? I'm lost lol
You have to wait for it to hit 100%. You don't have to farm missions.
you mean weavers
yeah sorry, fixing now
Ugh that's gonna take forever lol
The numbers will probably be artificially pumped in a few days
my shields got destroyed frame one because the game decided to send ssentinel intercepters alongside the first swarm fight
And the points gap is massive now. It's BS.
I suspect it will take exactly as long as HG wants it to.
weavers was 1000 points ahead even when the player count was only 100 ahead
Former means the "first" thing, Latter means the "second" thing
so he's saying the former, wait for it to reach 100%
When the rest get on it'll auto balance out. I'll quit the expedition if weavers have like 1k more than both teams.
I don't mind losing on a fair field.
I get mad when I get cheated.
can anyone copy their own ships into the expedition?
That's what losers tend to say 
nope
Sounds like a skill of issue my friend
im not so, as i said, they previously only had a 100 player lead now its 4 hundred, thats a 4 percent preference for weavers
Try playing chess with someone who has queens only and you only get one rook and all pawns.
and thats more than just random chance i think
Yes, but not through conventional means. It's disabled in the expedition config, but you can edit the config on PC. Save editing is also possible there.