nms-expedition

[slender glade]

One of the milestone rewards is a "Carrier AI"... clicking that will lead you to a crashed sentinel ship that you'll need to "repair" with a few steps it will ask you to do.

[grim fossil]

Complete the UNBOUNDED milestone in phase 3, this rewards a carrier AI fragment which can be used to locate a crashed interceptor.

[hollow yoke]

Man

Expedition was fun

[granite frigate]

Roughly how many nanites does it cost to get a copy of your ship or multitool, once you complete the expedition and are back on the main save?

[remote thunder]

seen some players say up to 6k or so in their experience

that said

that amount of nanites can be easily obtained

[granite frigate]

Just calculating if I should pack up some of the tech or install more

[remote thunder]

personally those low amounts of nanites aren't ever a problem

salvaged glass/sus packets/even exploration and sharing with helios can easily cover those costs

[terse blaze]

So true! Well said!
I can't get any interest in any other game!

These Hello Games folks must have bypassed regular human energy waves to concoct such a gem of a game experience. I don't know what they're consuming, but I need to get me some!

Do only end-of-phase rewards become available in other saves, or do minor mission rewards transfer, as well?

[runic roost]

May I ask how it’s easy to acquire that amount of nanites? I am happy when I get 200 nanites out of selling one upgrade module😂 I’m always running low on nanites, what are effective methods to get them?

[remote thunder]

i'll point out something you said:

when I get 200 nanites out of selling one upgrade module

and now tweak things a little:

when I get 710 nanites out of selling one upgrade module

buy sus packets tech/arms from contraband agent/non-base trade terminals in outlaw systems, unpack, sell the x-class modules you got for nanites

alt, farm non-corrupted sentinels holding it at wanted level 3, unpack salvaged glass, sell the sentinel suit/weapon modules for nanites

for the first, with a decent sized network of outlaw stations on your teleporter list, and since contraband agents/trade terminals recover on real time, in about 30min (had to find some more outlaw systems through galaxy map, at the time i didn't have many yet, i turned 11M into 40K nanites)

[remote thunder]

@granite frigate ^ (also !faq-nanites in #bot-spam can share more options)

[runic roost]

Ahh that’s a way to go. I actually didn’t think about that at all.

And farming sentinels also seems cool. It’s always fun to fight them xDD

[terse blaze]

just curious...

[runic roost]

By minor mission rewards you mean the rewards you get for each milestone/challenge?

[terse blaze]

Yeah, thanks

[runic roost]

Well, they don’t transfer to all your other saves. You can only get the rewards for every phase on all saves.
These little rewards are only for the expedition save

[terse blaze]

Got it, thanks!

[frozen remnant]

Can I do the expedition multiple times from a main save?

[obsidian zinc]

No

[nova scaffold]

Why is my Optional Milestone ghosted out?
When I click on it, there is no tick?

[frozen remnant]

thx

[boreal ember]

Visit that planet again, then it should finish for you

[nova scaffold]

yeah it popped when i visited the planet again. thanks

[keen stone]

what preparations do i need to make for finishing the expedition?

if i collect the final reward, will it force me to finish?

also trying to go back to document those planets for the optional thing, but I can’t find them in the galaxy map

AND MY XBOX JUST SHUT DOWN

Ok i got to the planet i needed to

however

the mission says research is already 100%?

oh

thats a seperate thing

[near remnant]

I have a question, I claimed a scepter in my expedition file
Will it be the same across all files or do they roll the supercharged slots seperately

[keen stone]

oh dear

the station for the fourth system isnt available to teleport to

I might not have landed on the station the first time i went there

[obsidian zinc]

Seperate

[near remnant]

phew thank you (:

[hollow imp]

no you can continue to play in the expedition mode if you started via the anamaly. I'm not sure if itll auto swap you to normal save if you started a fresh save, but I think you still do that at the anomaly

[obsidian zinc]

No

If its the runner you talk about

If you decide to end expedition then theres no turning back

[keen stone]

it appears i cannot transfer my companion eggs

i hope i can claim those

[obsidian zinc]

You can

[keen stone]

ohgood

10800 QUICKSILVER?!!?!

HOLY FUck

[obsidian zinc]

I got like 25k nanites from exped lol

[keen stone]

oh shit

apparently there was an entire expedition i missed and didnt notice

aw fuck

it had construct stuff

[wintry void]

yep, they look good with new atlas head and jetpack

[real rose]

anyone tips for getting an echo locator? wasted the one from UNBOUNDED after having to reload when the harmonic...THE BIG SAIL SENTINEL MF BUGGED OUT

[spiral bolt]

Hey all, sorry if this has been asked already. I'm really struggling to find the 2nd rendezvous point, it's telling me to travel miles and after about 25 jumps, i still can't find it. Any ideas for this?

[obsidian zinc]

You probably went through a blackhole, go to the nearest spacestation and teleport to your base

[unkempt kraken]

@brazen wren Please use this command in #bot-spam.

[copper trail]

done

[half relic]

Search for dissonant planets and go on a hunt for the big drill dudes (dissonance resonators). Sometimes they drop echo locators

[cold tulip]

20% chance for one

[half relic]

I don't know of any other way to get them 🥲

[cold tulip]

Its the only way afaik

[wanton raft]

Alternately, you can save your locator and go to a player base which will get you to a sentinel ship.

[spiral bolt]

Thank you for your reply 🙂 I read this in another post, seems odd they'd tell you to go through the black hole in a mission within Phase 2 before the 2nd rendezvous point lol. However, I've continued going and I keep finding Atlas stations off the path line, making me thing that's the actual rendezvous

[keen stone]

having completed the expedition i suddenly find myself with immaculate drip

[real rose]

thanks! I figured it out a little ago to just go check out all the player made communication things on the planet which sole purpose is this 😅. thank you regardless for the tip tho

[wraith junco]

!exptime

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[wanton raft]

Never underestimate the power of laziness! 😉

[real rose]

the power of community driven laziness 💪 alright just one more stop my expedition ought to be complete

[shell kettle]

Should I sell anything before ending the expeditions? I'm not sure what carries over to the main save and what doesn't.

[remote thunder]

was about to answer in main chat, here goes:

type !faq-expedition in #bot-spam , check this pinned post #nms-expedition message ; items you leave behind are just going to get converted into units

(saw you deleted post in main chat, figured you'd come here or to -help)

[shell kettle]

Yeah just wasn't sure if it convers everything. Guess I can always make a save backup and find out.

[remote thunder]

possibly not everything

[shell kettle]

I know you get a lot more nanites for base parts researched than what the data costs, does that apply to other things as well? Just wondering if I should fill my garage with ships before ending it.

[remote thunder]

like stuff in storage containers

[remote thunder]

if you bought more ships, you'll get more nanites, seems like 900 nanites each ship

tbh, i don't think it's worth it - nanites are easy to make anyway

e.g.

[shell kettle]

Do salvaged sentinel ships count?

[remote thunder]

i believe it does, yes

[shell kettle]

Actually, I could just trade them for regular ships if they don't, now that I think about it.

[ashen shore]

You can still get the construct stuff by going to a autophage camp and buying it from the shop in the staff builder

[remote thunder]

just not crimson/atlantid heads

[ashen shore]

Sadly yeah

[keen stone]

Going to a what

[shell kettle]

There's 2 S class ships in the space station in the starting system, nice.

[remote thunder]

in a non-expedition save/mode, progress and complete they who returned secondary quest (type !faq-echoes in #bot-spam for more info)

[keen stone]

woaw

will check out later

[ashen shore]

Don't you need to complete both main stories first

[remote thunder]

nah, just artemis path aka main storyline completion, then lift a seal off an harmonic camp, then warp out and wait in space for quest transmission

[ashen shore]

Huh didn't know that well I'll remember that on my next save

[remote thunder]

it used to require a trace of metal completion too, but not since 4.44 at least

[ashen shore]

Thank god because that mission was bugged for me for quite some time

I hate how my old save was deleted after the patch they added for the interceptor update

They deleted my save when that happened

My original save I created when I first started playing nms

[real rose]

fellas I got a question. I just wrapped up the expedition the expedition save is my main primary save. will I lose anything if I end the expedition that can't be transfered to primary save? t.i.a 🙏

[ashen shore]

Did you create the expedition as a new save or did you start it on a main save with the terminal in the anomaly

[real rose]

it was started on my main save from the anomaly expedition terminal

[ashen shore]

Ok so all items that you have collected apart from the items like the echo seeds I believe they are called can be transferred over to main save after the expedition is completed the terminal will give you the option to do so all eggs and the ship you get from the expedition as a reward and the helm and backpack and staff can be then redeemed on any save on that account

[real rose]

alright so put stuff in the terminal you want to keep. got it! thanks mate.

[ashen shore]

I would suggest going to your main save then having the ship you want to transfer over on expedition save set as main so you can copy it to main save by going to main save

If that makes any sense

I can reward it better if you would like

[real rose]

yes please 🙏 ELI5

[ashen shore]

[real rose]

it's my first time with this game apologies

[ashen shore]

Basically on expedition save take the ship you want to copy to main save and set it as main ship by going to a planet any planet and summoning it then after that take it to the anomaly get out of the ship then go to the pause menu (not needed if you haven't finished the expedition yet just go to the terminal to go switch in between main save and expedition) then in the pause menu go to were you would normally hit exit game there will be a option that says switch to main save or something like that do that then once in main save copy your ship by using the terminal in the anomaly if you want to also copy a multi tool from expedition to main you can also set a multitool as a main multitool by scrolling all the way to the left in quick menu and selecting the multitool that you want in use

Sorry if that's hard to understand

[real rose]

so pick a ship I want to copy. land it in the anomaly hangar, menu setting > switch to main save > acces main save terminal to transfer ship/multitool > switch to expedition again > complete the expedition and transfered ship and multitool are now available to copy over with nanites

did I get that correct?

[ashen shore]

The minute you get to the main save you can just copy them both right then and there

You can keep going back and forth between expedition and main save to copy over different multitools and ships

You can use this to duplicate tech

As well

May be handy because the photonix core from the starborn runner is a very rare upgrade only available from that ship so I suggest duplicating it

In order to do this you need to take it off the runner and put it on another ship then go to main save copy the ship with the terminal

Then go back to expedition and take the tech off the ship you just copied and move it to a different ship

Then just repeat the process as many times as you want

Same thing just repeat it

Hope this helps

[real rose]

ooh thank you very much! @ashen shore

[ashen shore]

Everything I just said can also be applied to multitools

[real rose]

yes I saw. thank you! Expedition complete

[shell kettle]

Huh, weird. After ending the expedition, my pirate freighter seems to have switched to the normal freighter interior.

Or just the lighting? Not sure.

[fallow raft]

Can you bring freighter from expedition save to normal save?

[rose ferry]

Not that I know of

[slim oxide]

I think that was a bug, you should make a ticket. They had reported in the bug updates that was fixed.

*that was supposed to be fixed

[blazing fossil]

No

[shell kettle]

It went back to normal after I restarted, honestly I kinda' wish there was a way to make it permanent.

[little pivot]

when does event end

[halcyon sparrow]

Almost 2 weeks

[little pivot]

ok

[pliant mauve]

Am I understanding right that I won't be able to keep the freighter I got in the expedition once it's over, and bring it back to my main save?

[real rose]

nope

[pliant mauve]

Alas. I got a lucky S one. ;.;

[real rose]

nw you can keep hunting them on a regular save. saving grace is you can copy a ship and a multitool back to the main save tho

[pliant mauve]

I wasn't even hunting, it was the first one I ever got outside of that expedition where you start with one.

[real rose]

nice luck...or bad depending how you look at it 🥲

either way you'll get a chance every 5 jumps you do so you're bound to bump into another sooner or later. knocking on wood for ya! rng be merciful

[pliant mauve]

Yeah I'll get one sometime for sure.

I got a cool ship too, and since the ship I have been mostly flying around in is the one from my main game, I'll take the other one back with me and have both.

[south cobalt]

When does the expedition finish?

nvm

[wraith junco]

!exptime

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[misty plinth]

I take it the portals are bugged or disabled? ive tried 8 different portals now and none of them let me enter glyphs

[remote thunder]

can't dial addresses if you haven't learned any glyphs yet - you'd need at least 1

[faint pelican]

When I end the expedition on my main save are there anything’s that I should take back to my main save before ending?

[prisma gyro]

I scored a S class dreadnought in the expedition. Wish I could of kept that thing lol

[faint pelican]

Oh man, I would have wanted to also, did you get money for it? I’m just confused by what I should try and take and what will just convert to money for my main save. Does the new multitool go over?

[hot blade]

You can copy the currently equipped multi tool to your main save so if you got a real nice one, you can keep that

The staff can be copied and then redeemed as well

Think you can copy both if you don’t end the expedition beforehand

[faint pelican]

Thank you. Didn’t get a cool multi tool, but the one you earn looks really cool, I wasn’t sure if that one was available at the quicksilver place or if I needed to copy it over.

[hot blade]

You can do both and scrap one

[hot blade]

There's an s class cabinet that I posted earlier
It's in the starter system

[ashen shore]

Have there been any teasers as to what the next expedition might be???

[faint pelican]

Oh wow! Thank you. I don’t always keep up with all the chats but much appreciate the info!

[wraith junco]

Before update we get only 1 single emoji post from Sean tweeter. Then community tries to speculate and guess what update content will be

[ashen shore]

Damn thats ominous

[wraith junco]

Its fun to speculate and ride a little on hypetrain on what the update can be.

[coarse quest]

Hi, I finished the expedition with a new character, returning to the main one, I saw that I could restart the expedition in the nexus, can I do the expedition twice without risking losing my backup?

[dull scaffold]

you shouldve done it on main save to earn all the stuff

[lime plume]

If you start the one in the nexus on main, it won't affect your previous expedition or your main save. You should be able to access all the rewards at the quicksilver vendor anyways.

You just get the added benefit of putting things into the terminal to take out during the expedition to speed it up, and take back all the credits nanites and quicksilver back with you. Along with the whole multitool and ship bit they added earlier.

[cold tulip]

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[remote thunder]

yeah, you definitely can, even if you already unlocked all the phase/final/optional 2-5 milestone rewards - i'm on 5 runs and counting, starting new creative saves, getting myself some stuff for the stash before starting it, then just go in, have a fairly easier time, actually not that much tbh just a little - run through get that massive quicksilver amounts, unlock a bunch of stuff (non-consumable quicksilver purchases are unlocked account wide), then delete the save, go again 😅

[coarse quest]

Do you have the possibility of having the new ship 5 times? I would like to

Do you have the possibility of having the new ship 5 times? I would like to put one in the squadron and keep the one I have

[remote thunder]

no, at most you'd be able to get 2 copies in the same save

[coarse quest]

Looks good, thanks for that

[copper spire]

Hey all, Im opening an underground rave at rondevouz 5. I'm new to the bytebeat but I'll be slappin decks for the next few hours.
If anyone would like to stop by, swing out to Moonlight RaveCave to unwind after your long journey.

[solemn bane]

So I used @spice arch's method/repo for playing old expeditions offline. Spent 90+ hours playing all 12 (mostly because I did weird stuff like tried to stay on the first planet until I could finish every milestone possible, and I refused to die by conventional means on Leviathan, which meant searching for like 3 hours for an outpost that would sell me a hermetic seal, lol).

Anyway, I got to thinking it may be interesting to mess around with the expedition settings, especially so I could do a permadeath marathon. There's also some interesting possibilities like starting Polestar without a freighter.

So I made a tool that will let you more easily pick an expedition and mess with the settings: https://cwmonkey.github.io/nms-expeditions/

Just launched it so it's not super tested, but what I have tested so far seems to work. Going to work on adding/testing more settings in the coming days.

[fallow raft]

Can I unlock past expedition rewards through this method?

[solemn bane]

Yeah. Unfortunately since you have to play offline sometimes the only way to progress is just to unlock some milestones by default. I have been messing with some ideas to at least keep them locked until you progress further along in the milestones.

[fallow raft]

That would be great! I just started NMS on steamdeck and would really like to get all the past rewards unlocked
By the way, to play offline is it enough to just disable the multiplayer under network setting in NMS, or I have to put my steamdeck to offline?

[solemn bane]

Yeah I missed a ton of expeditions too.

For offline you need to set Steam to offline mode, or unplug your internet, etc. This is because when the game STARTS is hits the NMS servers to get the updated expedition file, which will wipe yours out.

[fallow raft]

Understood! Will get busy once Omega expedition end 😄

[solemn bane]

Worth noting I played all previous 11 expeditions offline while Omega was going. I was thirsty lol.

It's looking like I can't actually automatically turn all the difficulty settings up. Seems like I can make the minimum the highest setting for some of them, but that doesn't mean the highest difficulty setting is picked. Weird.

[fallow raft]

Yeah I guess I can start playing right away, I just worry that it'll mess with my existing save file

[solemn bane]

It will, in that things will be unlocked on your save file. Aside from that, 90 hours of playing tells me nothing else weird seems to be happening.

However, when I played we hadn't discovered that you can allow item transfers between your main save and your expedition save. That has been fixed in these new files. So that's cool. I mostly wanted to use it to send me main save all the +slot items.

[fallow raft]

Wait! That SEASON_DATA_CACHE.JSON hack even work for the main save to expedition save feature?

[solemn bane]

Yeah, that's why I'm probably going to play them all again, lol.

That, and upping the difficulty settings and seeing if I can beat Polestar without a starting freighter are what I am really looking forward to on my next run.

[fallow raft]

That's cool! Now I feel like want to do all the expedition right away lol, well weekend is coming 😄

[hoary condor]

how do you do the grand tour milestone

phase 3

[solemn bane]

You just take an in-game picture on the three planet types it asks you to. The types exist in the very first solar system. Cold, airless and... hot?

[hoary condor]

yea

[solemn bane]

I found out you can fly low and take a picture from your ship

[hoary condor]

do i take the picture in space?

[solemn bane]

Don't even have to land, lol

No, you need to either land or fly low

[hoary condor]

ok

ty

[solemn bane]

Ah, the setting I was looking for was DifficultyPresetType - I think I can set that to Permadeath for a boost in difficulty 🥳

[granite frigate]

I see permadeath more of a stress boost than a difficulty boost.

[solemn bane]

Oh yeah. Get the ol heart beating when I get too overconfident and almost die, lol.

[solemn bane]

Totally worked by the way. Can't wait to try a Permadeath Polestar without a starting freighter 😆

[cerulean olive]

Doesn’t this all need to be in the modding channel and not in this current expedition channel?

Appreciate the efforts, but let’s keep this channel as clean as possible.

[rain surge]

Do the expeditions repeat every year or so? Cause I need the first 5 on Xbox, and all but omega on my steam save

[hazy sparrow]

Last Christmas they unlocked all the expeditions again. I'm told that's an annual thing. I hate I missed it, but I was still new to the game at the time and did not realize you had to start a new save for the old ones.

[rain surge]

So at Christmas we had been able to do them all again and we now can’t?

[hazy sparrow]

No. They did it last December, and we will have to wait until this coming December for them to do it again.

[ashen shore]

is expedition on survival mode?

[ashen shore]

Yes

[wintry void]

They only repeat expeditions done from that January that year at December. They do not usually run ones from a previous year.

So this expedition will probably be run at December, but any previous 11 probably wont

[stone heron]

Y’all r there any other ways to earn quicksilver on omega besides the main questline?

[wraith junco]

Qs missions

[drowsy rune]

I really, really don't like expedition goals that involve base building

Having to go to the anomaly for a part too? And you don't know until you get to that step of the goal?

[ashen shore]

The system you gave me and that other guy for the pirate freighter that is run by korvax for some reason has waaaay lower odds of being S class than the outlaw system I found on yt that gives a pirate pirate freighter run by vikeen and has 4 square SC slots I got that one after 3 trys

[blazing fossil]

They're the same odds, but that's exactly what they are odds

[ashen shore]

I know it's just weird that the other system I went to has it happen more consistently

There is something else at play

[wintry void]

I once got an s class on 1st try, went to same system on another save, and took me an hour. Thats RNG for you

[barren quiver]

Wait is there an expedition going on rn?

[fringe agate]

!exptime

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[barren quiver]

Ah thanks

[flint jewel]

so guys where is this thing?

[blazing fossil]

Build menu

[flint jewel]

have i gone blind or something cause i cant seem to find anything that is called this

[blazing fossil]

Could be because it’s not unlocked on exped

Try going to the anomaly research station and researching it

[flint jewel]

i cant contact anomaly without warping

to get warping blueprint i need to complete this

[blazing fossil]

You should have gotten a pre built base comp from a milestone

[flint jewel]

i certainly did not

[blazing fossil]

1. Wrong menu
2. That menu only appears when you’re in a base you can edit

[flint jewel]

im certainly in my base as u can see behind

[blazing fossil]

If you leave that menu what does the little tool tip that appears tell you?

[flint jewel]

its not coming out 💀

i will go take a rest for 1-2hrs

maybe it will work

[leaden anvil]

do milestones/language and stuff carry over from expedition?

[solemn bane]

I saw some random Steam post that mentioned now that they built the expedition terminal they were going to open up expeditions to everyone at any time at some point, but I don't know if that is confirmed, haven't done any research on it.

At the risk of offending the hall monitors again by talking about anything other than the Omega expedition here, you can play all the expeditions in offline mode (for the most part) by using the tools that @spice arch and myself have posted (on PC/Steam deck anyway).

[rain surge]

Do these tools work on Linux?

[blazing fossil]

Not confirmed in any way

That all expeds will be available

[rain surge]

I’ve seen the terminal you mean but it only shows current expedition

[blazing fossil]

Exactly

It’s not confirmed by HG if all expeditions will become available at all times or if they won’t

[rain surge]

It would make some stuff a lot less special

[solemn bane]

Time gating is a weird way to make something "special" imo. Expeditions are fun, I want to play them. Take my rewards away, I'm not a fan of banners or overpowered items anyway.

[solemn bane]

Yeah, the stuff that was posted should tell you where to put the expedition file to replay any of the old ones.

[rain surge]

I have to edit files or something?

[solemn bane]

Yeah you replace a file called "SEASON_DATA_CACHE.JSON" in the appropriate directory then start nms while in offline mode (so it doesn't update the file to the latest expedition) and you can play the expedition as long as you want.

https://cwmonkey.github.io/nms-expeditions/

[rain surge]

Thanks, I’ll check it out when I’m home

[real rose]

the Steam Deck portion ought to answer as much

[rain surge]

I don’t use steam deck, I use Linux on my pc cause windows did a funny and died

[real rose]

Steam Deck uses Linux so it should work. and if it's just replacing a .JSON in a directory folder it should/could work for any PC version (Windows/Mac/Linux/Steam/GoG) version of the game

[rain surge]

Ight, thanks for the info cause Linux is a bit odd to me

[real rose]

no prob 👍 hope you have a smooth transition tho. Linux was odd for me in the beginning as well.

[rain surge]

Steam is a epilepsy and a half just from opening it :/

[real rose]

hmm. where did you get Steam from?

[rain surge]

Using bottles

[real rose]

haiyaa my boy. your distro's gotta have a native binary for you don't need to use Bottles.

what flavor of Linux did you saddle up with? let's see if I can ease you in

[keen steppe]

So i just started expedition last night, found atlas station this morning but cant access any dialog? Anyone ran into this issue?

[real rose]

nope. you just stumbled upon the Atlas of did you go there with the milestone selected and the atlas path on the galaxy map?

[solemn bane]

It should tell you that you have to talk to Nada first I think.

Well, you have to finish the whole milestone that involves talking to Nada. Something like that.

[distant spoke]

Yo

Can you send items back to the main save after you sent them to the expedition?

[young warren]

The treasures and stuff I find with a note about how many years old they are, do I trade those in at the one exchange at the first milestone rendezvous point?

[cold tulip]

You can sell them anywhere

[young warren]

So just "vendor trash" thanks.

[real rose]

keep em

[young warren]

keep like send back before ending via anomaly?

[real rose]

yes keep em to send back to normal before ending the expedition. if you got the milestone keep any others since units received upon sale will not transfer to normal. if you keep em and transfer them over they sell pretty nice price for money you actually get to keep

[young warren]

Thanks.

[solemn bane]

Wait, are you sure units you make don't get sent back to the main save? After completing the 12 expeditions my main ended up with 900,000,000 units. I know you get some amount of money from doing stuff on the expedition, but I don't think it's that much.

[real rose]

I believe so. reason being I ended up with a lot less units but way more nanites on my main save than I did on my expedition. but anyone correct me if that's wrong not a hill worth dying on if I am

[ashen shore]

only 900 million?

i have like 2.5 trillion units on my main

[solemn bane]

I wasn't keeping a big eye on it, but after Singularity I definitely got hundreds of millions from the ships I scrapped

[solemn bane]

This was ONLY from doing the expeditions, nothing else, and not trying to make money

[ashen shore]

Ah

[solemn bane]

Somthing like 40k nanites and 14k quicksilver, fwiw

[hazy sparrow]

I've been told you keep your bases from Omega when you end the expedition, but do the systems you explored get added to Discoveries also? That is, will I be able to warp back to all the stations I visited?

[remote thunder]

yes, that should be the case

let me double check on the stations

[hazy sparrow]

thanks, it would be nice to not have to place a base everywhere I want to go back to.

[solemn bane]

No, but you can warp to the base and go to the space station. I just did this after my 12 expedition run to delete my bases and grab all the suit slots.

You do keep the systems in your discoveries, though. Just can't warp to the space stations until you go back to them again.

[remote thunder]

After completing the 12 expeditions my main ended up with 900,000,000 units
wdym the "12 expeditions"?

[remote thunder]

stations do not get added on the list, but ofc, yes, your bases would still be available, and could always take screenshots of glyphs

note that discoveries might be densily populated, finding the systems might take a few minutes of scrolling 😅

[solemn bane]

You can play any expedition offline by placing a file in your nms cache folder. I binged them all in ~90 hours (I took my time on a lot of them, not leaving the starting planet until I finished all the milestones possible).

[hazy sparrow]

Yeah I'm running in to that already

@remote thunder Omega is the 12th expedition, there have been 11 before it. Once a year (typically in December) HG reactivates older expeditions so new players can do them.

As others have mentioned, there's a hack that lets you play them offline, but I don't think anything gained from that will transfer back to your main save.

[solemn bane]

It does.

[hazy sparrow]

@solemn bane thanks for the clarification.

[solemn bane]

A few days ago someone found the lines in the JSON that allows you to transfer stuff, and the units/nanites/quicksilver have always transfered via the offline method

[hazy sparrow]

So more JSON editing to do it?

[solemn bane]

So after my 12 expedition run, I'll probably do it again soon, lol.

[ashen shore]

rip xbox

[solemn bane]

They are all currently edited so that the item transfering works, both on my tool (https://cwmonkey.github.io/nms-expeditions/) and in Leodium's repo

[remote thunder]

ah yes, had a feeling that's what you were talking about

yes..

[solemn bane]

All I'm doing now is reading through JSON and trying to figure out how to change all the settings so I can customize and play through again, since I really like the idea of expeditions, but they are a little too easy for me.

[remote thunder]

well..

imo - you can do whatever you want - i don't want to argue about that, so i'll just say this: if the devs had intended for, or intend us to replay previous expeditions, they'll give us the way to.

[solemn bane]

Yeah, if I cared what devs intended that would matter to me. Mostly I just want to play the game.

[undone orchid]

So you can unlt get things from your primary save the one time?

[solemn bane]

I've never really been a fan of heavy handed "this is the right way to play our game" styles of development

[solemn bane]

How do you mean?

[remote thunder]

i don't think it works after you've set the stash the first time, even if you return to primary - what does work is changing the ship/MT to synth after returning to primary/before ever synth clone it in the exp save

[undone orchid]

When I started the exp. I put thing in to give to the new run. I just tryed to put more from the primary and I cant.

[solemn bane]

Ah, I see

[remote thunder]

that's what i was saying that wasn't going to work

[hazy sparrow]

So many expedition bases have this neat fireplace in them, where does one get that? Previous expedition reward? Regular QS vendor item?

[west kernel]

how long expedition is

[hazy sparrow]

10 days left

[hollow shore]

Archaic Habitation Heater

QS item

It has actually also been a Twitch Drop

[faint pelican]

My echo found a dissonant ship that someone has built a base around, claimed the ship, and now my echo is gone and no way to complete that milestone, any one else have this problem?

[pliant mauve]

I finished the expedition and I'm sorting out what I want to take back with me. My main save isn't anywhere near as far as the expedition brought me, so I want to make the most of it.

It says here that "Surplus items not placed into the terminus will be processed into units or nanites as appropriate." and I want to know if all the units will transfer over or if it'll just be the units from items being sold. Should I go buy a bunch of expensive trade goods before finishing up?

[wintry void]

Yes, I just went to a quiet dissonant system and found another

[faint pelican]

how did you find it? just flying around?

[wintry void]

You can kill 5 waves of purple sentinels and it will ping one, or 5 waves of ship sentinels including capital in last eave or find a camp and use the computer

Dissonant systems, will be listed dissonant in galaxy map instead of water

[faint pelican]

I am not the best fighter, so that's not an option for me, I would find a camp but not sure how to do it. Just really frustrated that I have completed most of the milestones and this one thing is going to hold me up from complete.

[wintry void]

Unfortunately I'm at work atm, so can't help you find one in game

[faint pelican]

Oh, I really appreciate your help. Thank you very much. I am just frustrated, was looking forward all day from work to do this and now I am unable to finish. But grateful to get an answer anyway. Thanks alot.

[wintry void]

The ai drop you got is usually found after killing 5 waves of sentinel ships and the capitsl

You could try looking at other comms bubbles in system and see if they mark a location

[faint pelican]

I did try to do that but ran out of resources during the 3rd wave and had to flee... I am just not a good fighter. But thank you for your help.

[pliant mauve]

Anyone know about the Units and Nanites post expedition? I'm looking through the sticky notes in this channel but there's a lot of them, and I haven't found an answer yet

[hollow shore]

Should transfer, getting some decent reward amounts, even on QS

[pliant mauve]

Alright, thanks Devilin. I'll trust you that they'll transfer and so the stuff I put in my keeper bin will be rare stuff rather than expensive stuff.

[wintry void]

My advice would be to find one of these

[cold tulip]

Turn mp off when doing this

[hollow shore]

The items you put in to transfer are your choice. Could go with valuable or rare, while some are not accepted at all.

[pliant mauve]

Are those uncommon? I beat up a bunch of them before.

[cold tulip]

Reloading the save brings the ship back

[wintry void]

They drop a yellow thing that let's you find a camp

[pliant mauve]

The thing I was concerned with was, if my units won't be transferred, I could buy some expensive trade goods and send them back instead.

[pliant mauve]

The ones I blew up gave a mirror, but no yellow thing I can recall.

[hollow shore]

The game will translate some of your belongings to a value, but does a bad job at it. Having any extra left over ships, should best be scrapped, and there are even some exploits you could abuse when you started the expedition from an existing save.

[pliant mauve]

I'd rather not do stuff as much as exploits, but disassembling my extra ships and multitools is a good idea I hadn't considered!

[faint pelican]

thank you, too late this time, but next time I will remember that

[faint pelican]

I have seen lots of those, are you saying those will drop an echo?

[stone heron]

May I ask. When the expedition ends do I get to keep my base? If so can I keep objects that I put in storage there or is it wiped?

[pliant mauve]

It says that you can keep your bases but the storage will be emptied.

Though, the storage units are the same everywhere, so they won't just be empty but be full of what (if anything) you had in your base storage before the expedition.

[hollow shore]

Storage containers are normally untouched, but with a primary save in the expedition, any base you created during the expedition using such, will see them emptied.

[stone heron]

Ooh good to know

Ty

[stone heron]

Ooh kk

[hollow shore]

It is basically to prevent issues with your primary, possibly having items in storage as well.

Other inventories, like refiners, cookers, etc, are also emptied

[pliant mauve]

Will the things in my storage containers be sold and the units or nanites returned to me after I switch back to my primary save?

Or just things in my basic inventories like exosuit and ship?

And will my freighter inventory be sold?

[hollow shore]

No, it appears to only focus on items/resources in cargo on suit.

[pliant mauve]

Only in suit, not in the ship, exocrafts, or freighter?

[hollow shore]

So to maake it worth most, best to transfer all to suit by that time

[pliant mauve]

Thanks.

[wintry void]

Yes, but it will aggro sentinels, if you have cloak, you can use it to lose aggro off sentinels

[stone heron]

Thanks 4 the help!

[hollow shore]

I am actually not sure how far that reach is, but I am sure Containers are not part of the deal, while I feel ship and freighter were not either, but I could be wrong

[pliant mauve]

I find digging a hole and sealing it behind you usually works to lose sentinels too.

[wintry void]

Echo will find a camp, use computer at camp and solve math questions, and you can ping for ships, if you put something down like a base computer to mark the camp, you can ping multiple ships, if you get another with a base there

If you dig a hole, dig down to you can't anymore then go horizontal

You will need a resonator anyway to get the ship, if it doesn't drop an echo

[faint pelican]

I did kill a couple of those, I have the mirror but no echo... maybe I should go to youtube so I can understand better. Thank you again for all your help Stobbsy. I do really appreciate it.

[wintry void]

Sometimes they drop mirror, sometimes an echo, if you get close, point at it but don't shoot, it used to say what would drop

Or find a dissonant outlaw system, and shoot them from ship, as ship sentinels dont spawn in outlaw systems

[faint pelican]

ohhh that is super helpful thank you.

[eternal cargo]

What is the next expedition after Omega?

[cerulean olive]

If your save converts to normal your expedition base remains in your bases list. You can go back there and find all the stuff you left there during the expedition in your storages.

[cerulean olive]

No one knows yet

[restive walrus]

!howmanydaysleft

[cerulean olive]

If you get sentinels aggro on foot, get in your ship and you’ll get sentinel ships looking for you instead. Get out your ship and those sentinel ships stop looking for you, as well as the ones on the ground. Don’t know if it is a glitch or not, but it works for me every time.

[cerulean olive]

!exptime

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[hazy sparrow]

You keep bases. Storage contents are (I think) destroyed, and container "numbers" replaced with those of your main save.
I learned today that space stations found are NOT saved, so build a base or learn a portal address in a system you want to keep access to.

Ships and multitools you can clone back to your main save before you claim the Runner in the expedition. Otherwise you are going to want to scrap them if you want to get anything for them. I don't think anything from freighters carry over. Some poor SOB posted they had a Class S pirate dreadnaught....shame to lose that.

If you started from a new save, then it becomes its own save so no need to delete/sell anything.

[hazy sparrow]

That does not work on an agressive sentinel world, as the ground sentinels always eventually spawn near you and find you. I can't fight worth a toot on the ground, but my squid ship easily deals with dreadnaughts now.
On dissonant worlds the sentinel ground forces you can burrow away from (except for those effin' spiders that clip through terrain, cheating bastages) or run away from.

[stone heron]

damn good to know tyty

[west kernel]

how long its takes to do get all expedition rewards

[young warren]

Depends on your level of ADHD

[flint jewel]

holy moly it has this much damage diff?

[blazing fossil]

The only accurate way to compare damage is to remove all non essential modules

[sinful yew]

is there still time to play the expedition?

[blazing fossil]

Yes

You’ve got until march 18th

[sinful yew]

Thank you

[gritty sedge]

Neutron Cannon with modules drives up the Damage Potential stat by a lot.

[flint jewel]

why both of the ships i got from expedition looks so beautiful ???
can we get them in the normal world too?

[real rose]

this could be applied to every mod for any game ever. disregarding "intended way of playing" is part of modding culture and as long as it doesn't interfere with other players I'm 100% for that stuff. these folks makes some magic happen sometimes for games that even the og devs couldn't fhatom. I think that's commendable in it's own right

[real rose]

if combat isn't an option then checking out other communication stations could be. I wasted my echo after my game bugged out so I went to check around. on my dissonant world lotta players left comms where sentinel interceptors were to spare other the hassle. mine came with a note on what class it was. might be worth checking if combat is not doable

[stone heron]

Me personally I hyperfixated on doing the expedition to the point that I got it done in two days :p

Only thing I thought about

For two whole days

[real rose]

I got it done in about that time without hyperfixating. I imagine if you go hyperfixated enough you can wack it out in sub 24h

[stone heron]

Oh yea I guess I didn’t mention that 2 days = 6 hours

Total

:3

[real rose]

ooh see now those are some goblinmode speeds.

[tulip fulcrum]

Anyone got any tips to help complete the xenophile milestone?

[cold anvil]

I got it at random tbh, i was one one of the expedition planets and saw some flying saucer/pancake looking wildlife that cataloging it triggered the milestone. Apparently planets with only 1 type of fauna will trigger it as those are considered exotic as well

[wheat lynx]

I’m currently doing the expedition and I need help with like the smuggling contraband thing

[jagged sedge]

Do you happen to have a base anywhere that has a trade terminal?

[cold anvil]

buy from a pirate controlled system, sell to a normal system

[wheat lynx]

This is kind of my first time I really have experienced survival so I don’t think so

[jagged sedge]

Welp, like Diva said, buy some goods from a pirate station, sell at any non-pirate trade terminal - just try not to get caught, lol

[wheat lynx]

OK, but how do I find a pirate system?

[cold anvil]

Meaning, dont stop for other stuff after warping out of the pirate areas, go right to a space station

[wheat lynx]

I mean, I can’t find anything I’m finding more dissonant than I am black market

[jagged sedge]

They are out there, might have to widen your search area

[granite frigate]

If you don't want to rely on luck, might want to research and fit an economy scanner so they show up on the galaxy map.

[real rose]

buy contraband, summon anomaly, teleport to regular system station, sell.

[real rose]

any outlaw system or if you got an invitation for the voice of freedom just use that and follow the markers

[remote thunder]

focus on red star systems, look for planets with gold on resource list

[remote thunder]

assuming that 1) you started this expedition run from an existing save, and 2a) one of those ships is starborn runner (the final expedition reward ship; once claimed in expedition, is unlocked account wide, meaning that it can be claimed once from the quicksilver shop in any other save, present or future, under the same account), and 2b) the other is a ship you bought and had equipped before finishing the expedition and converting back to normal, then yes, you could get them both into your "normal world" (you meant "{main, primary} save", i assume), by claiming runner from qs shop, and synth cloning the other ship through anomaly/expedition terminus after finish+conversion

alternatively, if the other ship was purchased/obtained in expedition - iow, it's not the starter ship, you could take note i.e. screenshot glyphs of the system you got it from, then portal to that address in your main save, and get it

[flint jewel]

I ment the first butterfly kind of ship we get at the start for free and the 2nd one that we repair in the middle of expedition and I think we also get it for free, it got cool animations

The final expedition reward ship looks kinda mid
I haven't got it yet, I will check it when I get it

[remote thunder]

so, right, if you did start this run from an existing save, then the starter ship you could clone back to primary; the "2nd one we repair in the middle of the expedition": i assume you're referring to the sentinel ship milestone (radiant flight)? as i've mentioned, you'd get the glyphs of the planet/system you got it from, then get it in your main save (or you could abuse the expedition terminus system, by equipping the ship+returning to primary - for example, pause/options tab - clone it in primary, return to expedition - repeat multiple times with different ships for example, though i would not recommend doing that, bugs may happen)

[flint jewel]

I forgor where I got the 2nd ship from

🥲

[forest fractal]

Guys I'm in phase 3 grand tour, I'm taking pictures of frozen planets the correct way but it's not counting for me, any help? I want to finish this as soon as possible

[solemn bane]

That's weird. I did it in the first solar system if that helps. I found out you don't even need to land, just take the picture while flying low.

[forest fractal]

I mean I'm taking pictures the same way the guys on yt are doing it but still no results

[solemn bane]

Try it on the worlds in the first solar system, and make sure the quest is selected when you do it. Those are my only guesses.

[forest fractal]

Alright

[remote thunder]

in case you're still having trouble completing this, check this post <#nms-questions message>

[keen steppe]

Thanks again btw, forgot to thank you yesterday

[faint pelican]

Thank you! I will try that!

[faint pelican]

This is going to be my weekend!

[solemn bane]

To make expeditions longer I have been trying to challenge myself. Trying to get as many milestones done as possible without getting in my ship, then getting as many done as possible without leaving the planet, then the solar system.

And of course killing sentinels whenever I get the chance.

[shrewd heron]

Can i continue game after Expedition ends?

[vivid palm]

does anyone also have a problem with the biscuits mission?

[cold tulip]

What problems?

[wanton plover]

I just got here to ask that 😭 it doesnt complete for you aswell, doest it??

[solemn bane]

& @Mars I found you have to make a few of them. I made about six or so with carbon, one at a time until it completed

Man, no images, reactions and I can't @ people while I'm a lowbie. This is rough 😆

Anyway I've done that twice now. The first one didn't complete it for me either time, had to make a few more.

[wanton plover]

Ooooh i see, i see, we will try that me and my 2 friends made to the cookies and were like: no, please no glitch now 😭

[nova sleet]

Also cannot be plain biscuit (add some other ingredient to dough)

[lusty slate]

You can't just make a simple one. The prompts ask you to add something else to it (I did Gek nip).

[versed mantle]

You can copy them both over for the cost of nanites if you do it before you end the expedition

[wanton plover]

Ooooh i see, thanks for that

[solemn bane]

It's random. I did it with carbon both times.

But yes, solo dough it won't work

[flint jewel]

from where

[solemn bane]

The expedition terminal in the anomaly

[supple plank]

should i hatch the eggs before leaving expidition?

[remote thunder]

answered in -help

[ashen shore]

! exptime

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[versed mantle]

If you would like to bring multiple ships or multitools back to your main save, follow these instructions:

1. Equip the first ship or multitool you would like to transfer over, and install on it any tech you would like it to have.
2. Pause the expedition (do not end it!) and return to your main save via the menu.
3. In the main save, return to the expedition terminal at the anomaly. Use two buttons below the cargo to clone your ship and multitool for a cost of nanites. If your ship or multitool already exists in your main save and you would like to bring over an updated version of it, you will need to scrap the version in your main save first.
4. Return to the expedition, equip/outfit a different ship or multitool and repeat the process.

[west kernel]

i cant finish fase 2 of expedition becouse im endlessy warping to meeting place

[solemn bane]

Go back to the starting system and warp from there. They trick you into taking a black hole and being nowhere near the rendezvous

[remote thunder]

rendezvous 1 system would be closer - if you have it on your teleporter destination list

alternatively, space anomaly teleporter, look for other player bases that say "rv1", "rdv1", "rendezvous1", or even directly to 2, your call

[west kernel]

how to find planet with no atmosfhere

[solemn bane]

The first solar system has one.

[west kernel]

thx

[cerulean totem]

Does anyone know the system name for a outlaw station

[remote thunder]

use under a rebel star quest on your Log tab to get to one, or simply unlock eco scanner from the anomaly and install it, and look for one

!faq-outlawsystem @cerulean totem

[unkempt kraken]

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<:nmsatlas:972222451801010207> Finding Outlaw Systems

Requires Economy Scanner OR Conflict Scanner installed on your active ship. If using a Living ship, the Wormhole Brain. When using the Freighter Galaxy Map, the Interstellar Scanner tech is required.

In the galaxy map, look for systems with a small pirate skull left of the Economy type icon and identified as Black Market, or with Conflict level set to Pirate Controlled.

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[cerulean totem]

Thanks

[real rose]

I keep telling folks "just do rendevouz points 1st b2b. it's essentially straight lines

[solemn bane]

I learned that this expedition, lol. I had simply forgotten I took the stupid wormhole.

[real rose]

aye it happens ig. glad I figured it out as 1st expedition. meanwhile I couldn't for the life of me figure out the submarine stuff. I straight up said "f u" to the prompts and swam my way over 😂

[solemn bane]

Yup! Been there too. Now I always carry 5 metal plating, 4 crystal sulphide and 100 salt on me during expeditions just in case because I'm too lazy to read ahead.

[mint geode]

hey, I want to start an expedition as I havent tried this yet, but the preparation window has me overthinking what I should take with me lol. I know that my current multitool and ship are copied over, but any specific tips or materials I should take?

[solemn bane]

I haven't taken anything with me so far. Not even my ship or multitool. There's nothing difficult and nothing you can't just spend a little time farming.

[ashen shore]

During my expedition. I found this moon. This view is incredible

[mint geode]

awesome! Im just concerned as I dont have a lot of time to play, maybe 2-3 hours a night; do you think I can finish all expeditions before they finish up in 10 or so days time?

[solemn bane]

There is only one available right now, and yes

[remote thunder]

quickly comes to mind 200 cactus flesh, 200 fungal mould, some stuff to sell for nanites (salvaged glass, sus packets {tech,arms}) maybe, some contraband goods worth at least 120K

[mint geode]

Great, thanks guys!

[hazy sparrow]

I was told cloning back the Starborn Runner back to your main save multiple times (scrapping first of course) would break your main save. Is that still the case?

[remote thunder]

i don't know if it will break the save, afaik going back and forth primary/expedition is what is believed to cause the bugs with discoveries in primary save getting wiped

i don't know if that's been patched or not

[keen steppe]

Fungal mold or cactus flesh are only things i can think of that arent super easy to get just where you already are

[ashen shore]

What's the best mission to send living frigates on for living ship tech

[finite owl]

How easy is this Expedition compared to the last one?

[wintry void]

Its new player friendly

[inland belfry]

@finite owl I'm a new player and I've not had much trouble completing the 1st phase, just beginning Phase 2 of 5

[ashen shore]

What's the best expedition to send living frigates on for living ship tech

Also what's the highest class of living ship tech

[wintry void]

No clue, I dont have either, as I dont like either

[ashen shore]

Nvm figured out the living ship tech I just evolved one and it stops at S

[finite owl]

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[wintry void]

Last time i had a living ship, i sold it to trader within 4 hours, and only living frigate I've had is expedition one. I just prefer regular frigates

[finite owl]

Alright then, do you suppose it is something I can finish in 1 day of playing, as a "veteran" player?

[wintry void]

Jason plays has completed a speed run in less than 1 hr

[inland belfry]

I couldn't answer that, @finite owl as I don't really have enough time playing to answer that

I have no idea how many corners you could actually cut and what not

[finite owl]

Thanks, so the answer is 1-2 days for me then

[ashen shore]

Can you get the infra knife on the living ships

[finite owl]

Jason Plays is a good benchmark on how fast he can reach an objective and then extrapolate based on how long it took you to get there

[wintry void]

Took me around 4 to 5 hours

[wintry void]

Can't put standard weapons on living ships

[ashen shore]

I know but is there a living ship variety

[wintry void]

Best asking in help channel, I've not had had one on in a very long time, as I dont think they are worth the week long quest

[ashen shore]

Is it just me or does this upgrade I get during this expedition make earning credits painfully easy? I scan stuff for anywhere from 24k-215k. It's kinda nuts.

[wintry void]

Just like any other scan upgrade

In any other game mode

I get about 550k per animal on my main save

[tough forum]

Defo not, I’m just keeping mine around since I spent all the time for it and as a collectible

[crimson rose]

You kind of can, actually. But it's a pain in the butt to do.

[ashen shore]

How

[crimson rose]

It was a thing for a while. On YT research Reverse GodTier. I have one that I don't use, cause it's kind of a hassle. You have to keep reinstalling the tech. But DPS is ridiculous...

[ashen shore]

What's the specific method

[crimson rose]

Like I said, it's complicated. You need a friend to pull it off. Find a tutorial. ProfCynical has one that explains it well. (as annoying as that guy is). Godtiering a ship puts LS tech into mechanical ships. Reverse Godtier puts mechanical parts into your spacefish. Installing just a ProtonCannon turns it into a InfraKnife on steroids.

[ashen shore]

Ah nvm then because I play on switch

[crimson rose]

Ah... that would be a problem. There was a way to do it solo, but it got patched.

[ashen shore]

Does it evolve duplication

[crimson rose]

No. It involves reskinning the ship, and then reskinning it back... I don't fully remember. It's been a couple years since I did it.

[ashen shore]

Ah well I just duplicated a whole bunch of tech sacks to get all my upgrades

Doing it rn actually

[crimson rose]

Actually, I'm not positive that it would still work, since they messed with ship trading...

[crimson rose]

Anomaly trick or the Expedition trick?

[ashen shore]

Refinery

[crimson rose]

Duping tech with refinery? Did someone figure a way around the patch?

[ashen shore]

Nope I figured it out

Apparently they didn't do it with the tech sacks for living ships

💀

Kinda a oversight

[crimson rose]

Nice. HG loves to test the ingenuity of its community. We always win eventually 😆

[ashen shore]

Yeah they forgot about the living ship tech sacks they didn't fix those

So I can get as much living ship tech as I want

Oh this also works with the cargo expansion to

[crimson rose]

Heh. Our poor SpaceKoi, always getting overlooked.

[ashen shore]

I never thought of the living ships as fish

I guess it makes sense

They are basically the babies of the living frigates

[crimson rose]

It's more diplomatic than calling them cabbages.

[ashen shore]

You're pfp is a cabbage

[polar torrent]

done with Omega 🎉

[crimson rose]

That was undiplomatic.

😆

[wintry void]

Why, what has Omega done this time 😆

[dapper jacinth]

somebody i dont even know who just gave me billions unit worth of stasis device and more than 100 starship storage module 😯

[wintry void]

Id scrap them, so it doesn't ruin your game

Units are easy to get

[dapper jacinth]

can I bring dreadnaught to primary?

[neat latch]

Nope, you’ll have to find it again.

[dapper jacinth]

so I better spend more time on primary now since Omega is ending in 10 days

[neat latch]

You should still finish the expedition

But yeah. After it is over that save fill will become a normal save.

[dapper jacinth]

I already have, I don’t know what else valuable to get from it.

[neat latch]

Oh! Gotcha.

Claim all of the rewards in the expedition and switch over to primary.

[dapper jacinth]

I am struggle to find out how to equip the atlas helmet

[neat latch]

You can unlock all phase rewards at the quicksilver vendor, on all of the saves you may create

[neat latch]

Next to the quicksilver vendor there is a ramp leading to a room that houses helios, cronus. In that room is the appearance modifier. Interact with it to change the appearance.

You will need to unlock the cosmetics from the quicksilver vendor first.

[dapper jacinth]

thank you!

[neat latch]

Anytime 🙂

[ashen shore]

Hey mythos I have a question for you what should I focus more on in a living ship maneuverability or boost

When it comes to upgrades

[neat latch]

Increasing maneuverability is better, living ship end up at the low end of base core maneuverability.

[ashen shore]

Ok I'm still finding the more balanced upgrades it's taking a bit

But it's worth it

[ashen shore]

I just duplicated a whole bunch of tech sacks for the upgrades

This stuff is really boring

[neat latch]

Lmao

[flint jewel]

so like umm..... how do i go back to my main save from the menu??

i only got 1 save

[iron cedar]

My guess would be from the expedition console on the anomaly🤔

[west kernel]

expedition have only 5 fases?

[harsh acorn]

this expedition has 5 phases,yes
if i remember correctly, the endurance expedition had 6 phases and Utopia 7 phases

it varies from expedition to expedition

[west kernel]

okay and when ay finish all 5 phases and i go to annomaly and back on my main save i get everything

[hard talon]

yes

[west kernel]

in a milestone kill guards a ships count too or only drones on planets

[wraith junco]

All past expeditions had 5 phases

Some have additional community goals.

[flint jewel]

he told to do from the menu

[iron cedar]

Yeah, but my guess is you have to do it in game. Unless anybody else knows how?

[wraith junco]

Make new save. Chose expedition mode

[lilac lily]

Anyone wanna do the expedition together?

[blazing fossil]

Go into that save
Open the options menu and choose go back to other save

[simple pike]

Kill 25 sentinels?

If so then it has to be ground ones

[stark igloo]

!exptime

[unkempt kraken]

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Expedition 12: Omega

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See Pins in #nms-expedition & run !Expedition in #bot-spam

[west kernel]

yes

[simple pike]

^

[remote thunder]

as mentioned yeah surface only

hold it at wanted level 2 or 3

always keep a summoner alive, shoot the rest

[west kernel]

okay thanks

[simple pike]

I go all the way since I'm goated with the sauce

[remote thunder]

@west kernel summoner is 2 in the image; 1, the healer, are always a priority

[simple pike]

Walkers are underpowered imo

So easy to kill

[solemn bane]

______ are underpowered imo
So easy to kill

[livid minnow]

how tf do i get the brain to repair ship on radiant flight omega?

[solemn bane]

You loot the broken brain from the ship, then collect a mirror and a radiant shard, then use the broken brain in your inventory and it tells you where to go

[livid minnow]

what ship though i need to repair a ship with a harmonic brain?

[remote thunder]

the ship you got the hya brain from

[livid minnow]

i have inverted mirror and radiant shards but no harmonic brain

[remote thunder]

make sure sentinel salvage site mission is selected in Log tab, then cursor over hyaline brain in inventory, probe subconscious

[solemn bane]

Oh yeah. You find crashed ships by eliminating a horde of corrupt sentinels or finding a Harmonic base and asking it for spike coords

edit: also carrier ai fragments, which you get from a previous quest

[livid minnow]

it just says retrieve a hyline brain from a sentinel intereceptor increase your wanted lvl

[solemn bane]

You find them on systems/planets marked as dissonance

[remote thunder]

where are you right now?

did you complete phase 3 milestone 6 yet?

unbounded?

claimed it?

disable multiplayer in network settings, save+reload from main menu, consume carrier ai fragment

is that an accurate description of your process so far to complete radiant flight?

[livid minnow]

hold on

[remote thunder]

if you already have hya brains on you from defeating sentinel ships in space - refine them to nanites, they may become a problem to the process later

[livid minnow]

i have no brains

[remote thunder]

good

[livid minnow]

it wants a brain to do it

[remote thunder]

nevermind what the hint is saying for now

[solemn bane]

Yeah you need to find crashed ships like I mentioned

[remote thunder]

we've got carrier ai frag

from an earlier milestone

so using that is going to lead us straight to a sentinel crashed ship site

[solemn bane]

Oh right, forgot that was another way

[livid minnow]

hold on bro my games crashing

[remote thunder]

just make sure you've got mp disabled please, before you consume carrier ai frag

[livid minnow]

k

[remote thunder]

i'd even go as far as suggesting - consume carrier ai frag in the system the black hole sent you to

the less other player interference you have on this milestone, the better

[livid minnow]

whats screenshot shortcut?

[remote thunder]

quick menu/scroll right, camera icon i.e. photo mode

[livid minnow]

and where is the folder for them?

[remote thunder]

what platform/store are you on?

[livid minnow]

i did windows button s and shift

[remote thunder]

that's a windows screenshot tool - builtin - can you tell me its name?

(i don't use windows so i'm not familiar with all the stuff it has)

[livid minnow]

no idea its just the windows 10 one i guess

problem is i have no idea where it got saved

[remote thunder]

i assume you're not on steam then?

[livid minnow]

my steam screenshot button is crashing nms

lol this is a nightmare today

[remote thunder]

okay, then you might want to take a look at that; ask around #nms-questions - did you do grand tour milestone yet? (phase3 milestone2)

[livid minnow]

no i skipped that one

couldnt find the planets anywhere

[remote thunder]

starter system has suitable planets for that milestone; look for planets with solanium or frost crystal or rusted metal in their resource list - so get in the habit of scanning all planets in a system before warping out again, to make sure you're not missing any valid targets

[livid minnow]

this bugger

is the one im stuck on

[remote thunder]

was this the screen you saw when you first interacted with the ship?

[livid minnow]

maybe

[remote thunder]

well, a yes or no answer would be preferable

thing is

if it wasn't

then you're already working with a "bugged base"

[livid minnow]

no then

i collected my mirror and shard from the land

[remote thunder]

was that the ship that you get sent to with carrier ai frag?

[livid minnow]

no idea mate

[remote thunder]

inspect your inventories - do you still have carrier ai fragment item?

[livid minnow]

nope

anyway to get this brain another way?

hyaline or harmonic

[tough forum]

Rare drop from killing an interceptor but for it to matter you need to pick it up off a crashed one

[livid minnow]

i think im bugged

[remote thunder]

you need to find a different site

[livid minnow]

hyaline is drop off interceptor yeah?

[remote thunder]

no wait.

[livid minnow]

how can i get another site?

[remote thunder]

take a good look at the screenshot - lower left - the ship will give you the component you need to get harmonic brain - that's done by (first gathering the 3 shards and 1 inv mirror) converting hyaline brain taken from the ship, into a harmonic brain, using a dedicated monolith dialog.

[livid minnow]

it dont give me jack

thats what mine looks like

i need to find another dissonant system dont i?

[remote thunder]

and you're sure you claimed phase3 milestone 6? just so we're not wasting time here?

[remote thunder]

is there another player base nearby? open on foot quick menu, scroll all the way right - do you see other bases?

[livid minnow]

bases everywhere

[remote thunder]

thank you, just wanted to double check

[remote thunder]

you could try to make this site work again properly, but depending on well equipped your ship is, it might be faster to just find a different site.

[solemn bane]

If you don't have a brain and that ship doesn't have one, I wonder if you could drop the spike quest and find another spike ship by killing sentinels or locating a harmonic base

[livid minnow]

i cant kill the ground ones here

ive got a crappy boltcaster and its survival settings

[remote thunder]

yeah - that's another thing that i was wondering - do you have a sentinel ship salvage site mission on your Log tab?

[livid minnow]

how can i track down another dissonent system easy enough?

[solemn bane]

You can just blow up mirrors until they give you a locator thingy, just run away from the dumb sentinels

[livid minnow]

yeah

[remote thunder]

abandon it

[remote thunder]

check this post <#bot-spam message>

[solemn bane]

Each planet has tons of bases and spikes, no need to find another one

[livid minnow]

ok

i abondon it

i need to locate a mirror

[remote thunder]

okay but the thing is those bases might be triggering the bug

as well

i've had it happen in exp12 - because i completely forgot that i wasn't "alone" for a minute

uploaded bases everywhere

[livid minnow]

i killed one of them mirror things

before doing this mission not knowing

had sentinel walkers following me for like 30 mins

cant i just find another dissonance system?

[remote thunder]

you can

this is basically about how you want to go about it

do you want to use carrier ai frag to lead you to a suitable system directly to a sentinel ship site, or

[livid minnow]

but the expedition mission is pointing to this system im already in

[real rose]

or just skip town to the anomally till the heat dies down

[remote thunder]

doesn't matter, you can do it wherever you want

[real rose]

or tunnel your way to the safe comforts of the inner planet

[livid minnow]

ok

how can i get this carrier ai then?

[remote thunder]

do you want to use carrier ai frag to lead you to a suitable system directly to a sentinel ship site, or
you find a suitable system, with a suitable planet, then you use an echo locator to find a harmonic camp

[livid minnow]

taking photos the planets?

[remote thunder]

the milestone that rewarded it you already claimed it

[livid minnow]

nah i skipped that one with the photos

[remote thunder]

and you don't have it/don't have it anymore

...

[livid minnow]

i can do it

[remote thunder]

this milestone rewarded carrier ai frag

[livid minnow]

ah

yeah done that

[remote thunder]

cursor over grand tour - you'll see that carrier ai frag isn't part of it

so

back around again

do you want to use carrier ai frag to lead you to a suitable system directly to a sentinel ship site, or
you find a suitable system, with a suitable planet, then you use an echo locator to find a harmonic camp

[livid minnow]

ill check my frieghter cargo might be in there

[remote thunder]

i asked you earlier to inspect all inventories for it

[livid minnow]

nothing

only thing ive got is a sentinel boundary map

i think i sold the carrier ai

so im gonna have to try manually searching for a dissonance system

or farm interceptors right?

[remote thunder]

right

[remote thunder]

well not exactly.

[wintry void]

Or kill 5 waves of purple drones, or destroy resonator and see if you can get an echo

[remote thunder]

if you wanted to get another carrier ai frag, you could, if your ship is up for it

[unkempt kraken]

to view, enable Link Preview

<:info:850810445577453658> When the game spawns a Dissonance Resonator...

There's a:

• 80% chance that Resonator will be an Inverted Mirror Resonator;
• 20% chance that Resonator will be an Echo Locator Resonator.

Approach and aim at the Resonator to see what it will drop when destroyed.

Shared by: bkay201 Contributor(s): Atlas Emissaries

[remote thunder]

remember - the resonator will tell you what it will drop

[livid minnow]

how to locate them easily?

exocraft?

[remote thunder]

exocraft quick scan can pick them up as HUD markers, if within distance yes

that said

[livid minnow]

whats the deal with exocraft? i made them on another planet

and now i cant use them here

are they bound to the planet?

[remote thunder]

it matters more the type of terrain you're trying to farm resonators on; stay away from dissonant planets with lots of mountains

[livid minnow]

you can make exoscanner too

[wintry void]

I went to a quieter system to avoid issues with bases, for that milestone

[remote thunder]

personally, i find them easy enough by going to a dead dissonant planet

just to illustrate

there's 1, 2 -

naturally, not always the case, but the point is that dead biomes a) have low gravity, so airburst engine here can work wonders b) normally quite flat, makes it real easy to find resonators by just plain eye contact

[wintry void]

Pity, I turned my save to normal, I have a base at a dead planet

[remote thunder]

that said

dead dissonant planets cannot spawn harmonic camps, and will not do for ships either

so it's really just for resonator farming

[unkempt kraken]

@livid minnow
to view, enable Link Preview

<:info:850810445577453658> How to find Dissonance

Look for Dissonant systems in the galaxy map. In these systems, you'll often find at least one planet that reads Dissonance Detected in their resource list.

Notes:

• All dissonant planets can be used to farm related resources e.g. radiant shards, echo locator
• Not all dissonant systems and/or planets can spawn harmonic camps (see image link »). Consuming a Carrier AI Fragment should lead you to a suitable location that can spawn harmonic camps.
  

Shared by: bkay201 Contributor(s): Atlas Emissaries

[remote thunder]

"not all dissonant systems and/or planets"

[livid minnow]

this is all a bit beyond me

anyway to retrigger this event?

[remote thunder]

so inhabited dissonant system, where there's at least 1 dissonant planet that doesn't have rusted metal or gold (or is infested) on their resource list

so first, galaxy map, dissonant system, with any race icon

that's part 1

[livid minnow]

how can i scan dissonant systems?

its not available in my star ship taht filter

[remote thunder]

you don't need to scan for them

check the image on the embedded post

[livid minnow]

conflict unavailable

[remote thunder]

you find them by cursoring over different systems

[livid minnow]

oh ok

[remote thunder]

it does have an arrow pointing to it

[livid minnow]

i found one

[remote thunder]

good

[livid minnow]

its a different planet to the one i was in

[remote thunder]

found a different dissonant planet, in the same system?

confused

[livid minnow]

maybe it is the same lol

but its definately dissnonance detected

[real rose]

the exact planet doesn't matter nor the recommended method of achieving the milestone just that you achieve the milestone's objective.

[remote thunder]

first recommendation would be to find a system to do this in that there's no other player bases

[livid minnow]

im doing it on this planet

whatever it is

im gonna make an exo and a base first so im not running scared all the time

exo is up witha scanner

so just need scour the planet for dissonance resonators?

[remote thunder]

with an exocraft, for example:

flying low and slow with your ship:

[livid minnow]

i see

exo will be fine i can equip mining laser too

means i can escape hoards fast

just need a handful of cobalt

[remote thunder]

i escape them on foot well enough, i never go above wanted level 1

[real rose]

if you got an exo iirc you can bump them without aggro'ing them

[livid minnow]

k ill look for them things

[remote thunder]

if you already claimed phase 3 reward, you'd have access to atlas scepter, which has built in cloaking device

[livid minnow]

yeah ive not finished that yet

[remote thunder]

about grand tour and the crashing

drop by #nms-questions for help on that

but you're basically going to be finding the right planets, dropping inside atmos, opening in game photo mode, taking the screenshot using photo mode button first

then wait, let game register/take screenshot/make noise acknowledging, then exit photo mode

remember, scorched biome/solanium on resource list, frozen biome/frost crystal, airless aka dead biome/rusted metal

thanks to the others who also chimed in btw - Badger, stobbsy, cwmonkey

[livid minnow]

bru cant find any

[remote thunder]

that's exploration

[livid minnow]

dissonance resonators

[remote thunder]

that's basically exploring

not much to it

get to a vantage point/use photo mode as a drone camera

use your visor from time to time

don't just rely on exo scanner

use all the tricks in the book

[livid minnow]

found one

[remote thunder]

e.g. photo mode, fog=0%, ✅

[remote thunder]

approach it - aim at it

[livid minnow]

i use this bro lets you actually scan not just nearby stuff

[remote thunder]

pointless to supercharge

[remote thunder]

but yes

[livid minnow]

it says disonance resonator

[remote thunder]

on foot, aim your mining beam at it

[real rose]

no prob 👌 many community headaches make the streamline easier

[remote thunder]

if it's a mirror resonator, no point deleting it if you already have 1 mirror for the ship

[livid minnow]

echo

[remote thunder]

good, you found one

[livid minnow]

kill it?

[remote thunder]

destroy it from a fair distance so that sentinels guarding it won't immediately start shooting at you

then just maintain distance between you and them, until wanted level resets to 0

iow, keep them in the "search state" until it resets

[real rose]

the game does take a bit to register the photo mode milestones yeah. I usually shoot a few

[remote thunder]

yeah, need to be patient on it, as it goes through the hoops

[livid minnow]

now what?

use echo locator?

[remote thunder]

now, does that dissonant planet have rusted metal or gold in resource list?

[livid minnow]

no

copper magnetised ferrite and something else

[remote thunder]

good, then it should be suitable

use the echo locator

[livid minnow]

k

[remote thunder]

(if inhabited dissonant system, it will work)

[livid minnow]

locate dissonance spikes?

[wintry void]

Yes

[remote thunder]

hmm, guess it's not their first time doing this

[livid minnow]

not sure what im doing but seems pretty cool

i got some loots too and theres a weapon there

[remote thunder]

when you lifted the seal, it should have also unlocked aeron turbojet, did it not?

anyways, not important

[livid minnow]

yeah it did something like that

[remote thunder]

nice, yeah, that stayed the same

[livid minnow]

i just cant wait to get all this expedition crap out the way with so i can play full survival mde

mode

but to be honest its been good in teaching me many of the new mechanics

damn you guys are the best thank you so much i would have been fkd for days on this

i got my harmonic brain from the ancient site

sick ship

is the combat rly hard on full survival mode?

i actually dont mind all that or getting my inventories wiped out but its repairing the ship over and over might be annoying

[solemn bane]

Space combat can be hard if you're not prepared, but ground combat is a joke

[real rose]

not really imo. take all the same precautions and knowledge abt combat in normal and just weigh down the risk vs reward more. no harm in doin a runner. personally space combat is the easiest part for me and tons of fun. phase beam is a good crutch as well as diverting power systems to shields to increase survivability if needed. lock-on is very nice but you'll gain a better aim by manually readjusting during it and rolling into a tight turn. the more you keep a ship down your sight the less time it'll take in dogfighting

[livid minnow]

well after seeing what this sentinel ship is like

once ive got my basic survival stuff together i think im gonna go for one of these. I'll be starting with clean wipe 0 crutches

[solemn bane]

Yeah, now that you've figured out the spike thing, you can scrap those for like 20mil to 60mil units. It's just silly.

I dunno maybe 80mil, they are bonkers

[livid minnow]

i hate playing games that are too easy

[west kernel]

how to find exotic animal

[solemn bane]

I like them because you can hover in place in your ship

[livid minnow]

but this one its still gonna be pretty nice even if its still a bit easy on survival cos its just rly nice to explore and upgrade stuff

[real rose]

personally not the biggest fan of interceptors but that is personal preference. all ships can be tuned out to be valid on all fronts, just some will have a slight edge over others. nothing a bit of "git gud" (/s) can't overcome

[livid minnow]

the sentinel ship seems highly manauverable

good for dog fights

yeah depends on your style i guess

[real rose]

the starborn runner from current expedition is a lot more manouverable even. but yeah the interceptors are pretty manouverable just losing the dps race against sheer fighters afaik. but I'm not the biggest fan of interceptors due to their tech diffirence not the actual feel during flight

[solemn bane]

Oh yeah, you have to farm shards to recharge your shields. That gets annoying

[livid minnow]

ahh yeah maybe its just ship inparticular thats rly nice

[livid minnow]

yeah im expectin this

but im also going to look into doing some kind of farms on planets to create consumables

[solemn bane]

Being able to use pugneium to recharge my launchers is nice since I murder sentinels all day long

[livid minnow]

which is another layer of content also foods etc basically anything that will help me longer

[tough forum]

I just use sodium

[solemn bane]

I literally never bother with food unless an expedition forces me to, lol

[tough forum]

Got a ton of that

[livid minnow]

im not looking for optimal solutions just optimal fun

so food has no use?

[solemn bane]

I'm sure it does

[livid minnow]

its just content more stuff to grind

survival makes it more interesting cos rare stuff is really rare to spawn at stations things cost a great deal more to upgrade etc

[solemn bane]

There is a food that will give you a jetpack boost that I am tempted to make, but the way you use things in this game is so damn awkward I never bother

[livid minnow]

yeah the ui was never optimised

even aftert 8 years seems a little crazy

no sorting nothing

[solemn bane]

I've done the biscuit quest twice in this expedition and I still have no idea what the biscuits I make do

[livid minnow]

lot of time is sorting your crap and holding buttons

[flint jewel]

guys what are the things that i should transfer to main from expedition

[west kernel]

how to find exotic animal

[flint jewel]

go to exotic planet

[real rose]

uranium goes brrrt

[wintry void]

Find a planet with gold

[flint jewel]

go to a red star easily find an exotic plannet

[solemn bane]

I can't murder anything that drops uranium

Ideally there is a murder-based expedition next

[real rose]

one of the few things I love abt the Switch port ✨️touchscreen UI✨️

[real rose]

ngl I would love to see more ship to ship combat oriented content. sure there's ways to make money bounty hunting but let me make an actual self-sufficient living taking bounties of the census

[solemn bane]

Same, and a LOT more to the ground combat. Fast sentinels, ambushes, etc. Also another phase to the sentinel dreadnaught fight where you board it and fight ground sentinels, sort of like the derelict freighter.

[real rose]

visions of battlefront 2 yeah while we are at let's increase predatory fauna behaviour and spawn rate. this game for all it's cosmic horror feels a bit too safe at times. (long live custom difficulty options tho)

[livid minnow]

i love the minatour

[solemn bane]

lol, speaking of, I am going to try a permadeath 12 expedition run. I found out by editing the JSON you can make an expedition permadeath to the point it will delete your main save if you die, too.

[livid minnow]

i just think its rly cool

mechwarrior 2

[solemn bane]

You can make a blue minatour sidekick that fights with you

I also try to limit myself to the starter ship and multitool on expeditions

[real rose]

oh yeah I guess that flag is disabled by default since expeditions default to "normal" I saw your github btw that stuff is awesome for shi like that kudos 👏

[solemn bane]

Yeah it's set to normal, AND you can't change it to permadeath in-game. That always bugged me.

[real rose]

ig it's for simillar reasons as not being able to set other modifiers. give evey player an equal playfield during expedition even if it is self imposed challenge as opposed to ease

[remote thunder]

devs played with a surv+pd hybrid on leviathan, many players didn't exactly like the mechanic

[real rose]

I wouldn't have minded that tbh. might try the Leviathan expedition if I ever play the PC version. not the biggest fan of increased survival but for an expedition? eh wouldn't mind it

[remote thunder]

personally, leviathan was one of my favorites - kinda left me wishing for that as a game mode

[livid minnow]

im just trying to get the expedition done fast tbh so i can go pure survival i dont like having constant uber powerup handouts given for nothing

i do like the feel of achieving each phase though

[wraith steppe]

I started expedition last night after not playing for a while. When I logged off I’m assuming it saved like normal but did I lose my stuff from my normal game since I didn’t make two different saves

[solemn bane]

Sure, you can't please everyone, that's why we have options/settings.

[livid minnow]

this omega expedition also feels like a massive tutorial for noob players so its been perfect for me for that

rly good for a returning player who barely played at start

[real rose]

no the save will revert back to it's normal state once the expedition is completed/ended

[wraith steppe]

Awesome thank you very much for the quick reply

[solemn bane]

It's really awesome how they did it. One of the only expeditions that felt different.

[solemn bane]

That's basically every expedition, unfortunately

[real rose]

uhm same. ngl was more intimidated by the concept than I should've been first 2 hours Omega were easier than the first 2 hours normal. but ig that could be knowledge gain being put to use

[remote thunder]

wasn't about difficulty, but death mechanic

[flint jewel]

will there be a new expedition?

[remote thunder]

yes, most likely

[flint jewel]

soon or will it take time?

[livid minnow]

well doing the expedition its a great tutorial for new player

[remote thunder]

could take months, weeks - we don't know

[solemn bane]

Oh it was far more difficult than any other expedition. The fact that you got double ambushed at every rendezvous and people did actually die and get reset was why some folks didn't like it. What I'm saying is that can simply be made a setting.

[livid minnow]

if you do the main quest line you might be like omg this game sux nothing to do

[real rose]

bro wtf is that pfp? lmao 💀😭

[remote thunder]

far more difficult to whom? new players? got to be who you're thinking of

[livid minnow]

definately helps to have the guidance to tease each part of the content to you

[flint jewel]

[livid minnow]

for me i cant wait to grind some sentinels now or do some pirate quests etc and i wouldnt have even known about them details straight away

[solemn bane]

Anyone really, they make this game specifically for scrubs, so the fact you actually have to fight sometimes in an expedition already makes it harder than the rest of them.

[flint jewel]

real

[solemn bane]

The Leviathan redux seems to be a lot easier though. I wasn't ambushed in space at every rendezvous

[remote thunder]

honestly - getting ambushed - isn't all that bad

[real rose]

ig the PD is something folks can't really anticipate the increased curve off. it's not being skilled anymore at that point. it's being careful to a T for an increased period of time and the longer the time you invest the bigger the loss if/when you make an accidental mistake. reminds me of my Diablo days a lot. first 6 hours hardcore are easy and then you start sweating

[remote thunder]

i ran leviathan a bunch of times, i never died besides the 1 death

[solemn bane]

Same

Yet I am able to see that it was much more of a challenge than "take pictures of three different planets"

[remote thunder]

lol

[real rose]

Omega got me feeling like a safari trip

[solemn bane]

Give me difficulty settings that make a difference, that's all I ask

[remote thunder]

i mean

people still have problems figuring that out.

[solemn bane]

Imagine if you went to take those three pictures and got ambushed by 9 pirates or some insane crap like that

[remote thunder]

people see exploration oriented expeditions and are like yeah this easy

[real rose]

I wonder if Expeditions came with optional difficulty modifiers to increase certain rewards how players would receive that 🤔

[solemn bane]

Sure, I am totally fine with having "Normal" be the dummy setting. I just want a for real hard mode.

[remote thunder]

i don't think that will ever be the case

[livid minnow]

cant rly do that with this size player base usually

always causing a big uproar from the lower end of community

[solemn bane]

Literally the difficulty itself would be the reward for me. After playing all 12 expeditions offline and getting all the rewards I can tell you I don't care about a single one of them, except maybe the neat backpack lights

[real rose]

isn't that bound to happen no matter what at this size player base?

[solemn bane]

ok one of the capes is also cool

[remote thunder]

besides a few like 4, 6, they're mostly just large quests

[livid minnow]

but the lower end is disproportionately larger in big selling games

[real rose]

they're all too long imo...also jetpacks just are cooler

[livid minnow]

so you get a much larger backlash and ok ggfkthis comments not good for sales basically

[solemn bane]

I liked Cartographers because I had to work to get off the planet

[livid minnow]

works better with more hardcore playerbases

i still would like a slightly more difficult mode than survival though

with achievments