#nms-expedition
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at least its consistent
I am not on the S or X tho, so its2 just the system not being able to handle all the graphics.
are you able to low graphics quality on console? or is that just PC?
This one is a hand me down, and he got it when the Xbox 1 first came out.
So that old.
for reference, the only thing in my PC (which is mostly mid-range or low range parts) not from 2016 or earlier are my SSD, PSU, and one stick of ram (bringing 8 to 16) :V
its honestly impressive that it can run it at all
You can't.
so theres some kind of choice at the end, and does that dictate what head we unlock?
Yes.
thats like running nms on the windows 7
2013
is there nothing stopping us from doing another run, and unlocking the other head?
ok yeah, that explains it
actually not at all
the Seed of Hope unlocks the Crimson head, and the other unlocks the Atlantid head
w7 is kinda incredibly stable
Giving the seed and giving the reactor gives 2 different things.
ok yeah bad example
a huge chunk of my playtime was on 7 :V
windows 7 is very good but it is from the same generation
i was moreso refering to all the computers from that generation
So yeah, my xbox is like a decade old, lol.
yeah, except it's not quite killed by hardware
tfw 3gb of ram
wait, xbox 1 has 3gb?
no thats what my old laptop had
need a new xbox, or get yourself a computer, been enough updates to nms the engine has higher system reqs than it did before
as well as a whopping 100gb of space
but could i in theory unlock both heads with a second run of the expidition? or is there some kind of trick in the code to prevent that?
You are assuming I have any money to do so.
wait you can’t finish the expedition yet?
that 20 year old toshiba was such absolute trash they didnt even steal it when they broke into my house
may be forced to, soon enough... 👀
unlocking both heads is possible, if you can finish the expedition twice
gotta wait on t5 goal, yeah
Maybe, or can just stop all together.
welcome to the current topic
partially related to the ARG 👀
saving money is easy, just hide some every time you get paid so your not tempted to spend it on junk food or stuff
does depend on country, though
@lime plume you said you know warframe right?
i was wondering why know one was making videos showing off the new skins
i played warframe for 3 years on that laptop
how long do you think it’s gonna take
except that's kind of still on them and not the expedition :V
Yes, but don't bring up other games on here.
like 5d tops from 0 to 100
i would never have more than 10fps
so like 3 days?
It went up over a full tier since around this time yesterday
alright iam just gonna wait i hope other people are dedicated to getting these echoes
I think like 2-3 days
Yeah, rate this is going we'll be done in a couple days.
I’d bet Wednesday afternoon tbh
I've only put in like 5 echoes myself, lol.
Yeah i think too !
i did like 20 because i didn’t even know what i had to do lmao
yea so i already have both heads unlocked, because that first day i gave the reactor to the bot, then panicked and loaded my restore save, then gave him the seed ... then realized it was locked by the community thing ... but both are unlocked in the QS vendor and I'm wearing a head already
We just need to see what the optionnal milestone look
we'll be done this week i can say that much
since our rate will probably slow down while entering the weekdays
Maybe the last tier are slower too
but then the weekend comes and we should do it faster
Unless they decide to balloon the requirement even more. Heard they did that on an earlier expedition.
same here
but then i reloaded again
oh wait, it's in QS?
so i dont get any weirdo bugs
even if you havent claimed from the milestone?
expedition rewards
yes
huh, neat
All I know is it was at 24% of tier 2 about 20 hours ago, so it’s gone up over a full tier in less than a day
if you gave the guy his thing
yes because you couldn't claim it as it is locked, but it still shows up on QS
The moment you turn in the reactor or seed you get a head.
I guess the milestone was supposed to give it to you for free, ended up in the QS shop since you've unlocked it for your account :V
Okay, so I'm guessing that the milestone progress resetting to 0% is just me. Anyone else seeing that?
!tier
@median harbor
already??
yeah it's a visual bug on your end
are you connected to Online Discovery Service? check your Discoveries page
ok so i got bored of this and ill try to do some funky stuff with the game files
the mission ID is ^S10_CONTRIB_ALL
Yeah, connected to ODS. Maybe I'll just turn in a seed and see if that refreshes it.
I have. It eventually syncs back
I kinda just waited :V
I sat there yesterday, turned in around 50 seeds, only had 3 at start, someone started giving duped seeds to everyone on the anomoly
For the short time of not knowing the reason why I couldn’t complete the Sentience Echo milestone, I had put in over 13 stacks of the echoes only for the progress to go up 2% in a timespan of 2 hours….
It's a community milestone. The score is calculated across all players
console?
I thought i was doing something wrong…. Or there was a bug
Pc, Steam
ah 👌
I was scared thinking the few duped seeds I submitted had gotten me banned or something, so I understand the concern. It showed the progression after a few minutes
Nope. Just needs patience. I just turned in a bunch of seeds to make sure I was doing my fair share, and now mostly waiting on it.
Yea i figured that out about an hour or less ago after exploring the discord for answers
Question: Does the Base Archives quest not show up for expedition saves? i'm unable to get certain base parts, like the different NPC modules (farmer, science, etc.) because the Base Archives quest isn't granted when creating a base computer
I finished all except the Sentience echoes and the hidden milestones that have yet to be revealed after finishing the Echos one
It'll show up after the expedition is over.
tends to be after the expedition save is converted
(I shoved over 100 seeds into the Terminal in one sitting to raise the bar by 1 percent and I will do it again)
ok, thanks
Doing it one by one with the UI is so tedious
I got tired
!tier
@still prairie
You should be able to deposit all you have at once. It's bad design imo. But probably deliberate.
I got the Exocraft Terminal quests, my first freighter had an Exocraft Terminal to start with (and a Stellar Extractor, Refiner, Exocraft Summon room, and a command terminal for sending frigates out)
o.O
five incomplete milestones
five zeroes
the one thats snuck inbetween the other numbers is the echo collective one
so there's no more discussions
if any other person comes in here and has an hour long monologue about how bad this is for them
@ me and i will show them how to complete it
@ashen shore
but... iTs On A tImEr !
(its not)
I know, but some dude asked if I also believed the earth was flat, because I said there was no timer
lol
also here's something awesome i just scraped from the files
this confirms they plan on rereleasing previous expeditions multiple times
RemixNumber: 0 - original
RemixNumber: 1 - all the ones from previous winter reruns of the year
and that number can go above 1 👀
its the 18th expedition (season) overall and its "DisplayNumber" is 10
i was pretty worried for a while that they'll never rerun the old 1-4s again
but now im sure they will
nice
there's also a "must craft in bases" option? lol, thats funny
thats from a previous expedition i think
you can just turn that on for any gamemode
pretty sure yeah
Ultra-Permadeath... 👀
that would be a nice twist for difficulty, only fix/craft stuff on a base or station
beyond immortal... 👀
I'm pretty sure RemixNumber stands for which expedition has been rerun (For example if exped 2 is rerun, that'd show 2) whilst the season number is just incremented
||This is to go further beyond||
there's a displaynumber variable anda seasonnumber variable
Man I’ve done the thing but now it’s like…what do I do? Wait? Go back to main game?
that would be useless
but some hell is nice after you turn a space god
From an old expedition scrape we've done in the rerun era
would be cool if i could see that file
oh! actually
maybe i can
hang on, i kept my previous saves
Season number increments each time any expedition (whether that's a rerun or a new expedition) afaik, yea don't exactly remember display number
I think it's saved in a repo somewhere...
yes
season number is the overall expedition number
displaynumber is the expedition's title
singularity is display 10
season 18
10 unique ones +8 reruns
Precisely
oop
thats double unfortunate because that removes the previous confirm and also is just stupid design
wait
thats not a remix of expedition 9
thats a remix of expedition 5
i stopped believing in timerism the moment ODS came back for pc players
why is that a 9???????????????????????????
plus, of course
it would have been the 5th overall remix
there'd be evidence of a timer in the code, likely 👀
but , does it make sense for them to send it to the frontend and saveit in a file ?
if its a secret obviously not
It's cached with the latest value every time the game starts up
yeah and they know people datamine
Because HG adjust the end times of a CM mission because of the changing estimates of its completion
so if there is a timer I would guess its something done in the backend, at least it would way simpler to just do that
Can you see whicu systems have dissonant worlds from the galaxy map?
if i had to guess the supposed "deadline timer" thing was just if the community doesnt complete it in time, so it unlocks itself
if i had to guess
yeah it could be that
yes, the system will say "dissonant" like how some say water
ðŸ˜
u no cool
Thank you, found one.
bored
It's essentially just a trigger for the game to switch to the next CM at a given time, which HG can change around if they believe the community is slowing down or speeding up
I see
@severe whale
I was gonna go freighter hunting, but guess imma go echo hubting.
Tier 3 is now the answer to life, the universe, and everything
almost 50% overall progress
real
50% is gonna be cool
nice
cause itll be 50% tier 3 and 50% overall
but do you actually know what 42 means?
nothing
only The Machines do
like.. what was the question
it means nothing
its the meaning to life, the universe, and everything
what is the meaning of life
42 is an arbitrary number chosen to be the meaning of life, the universe and everything
only Azathoth knows the true meaning of 42, but you gotta wake him to get the answer
42 is the number of dots on a pair of 6 sided dice
the meaning of life, the universe, and everything. is a roll of the dice
wasn't earth about to find out the true meaning of 42, but then it got destroyed?
@spare halo I'm not sure what conclusion you reached with the progress report in the terminal, but it looks like it doesn't freeze with the cap, it just keeps incrementing in the game...
the original question yes, but that was not the question that supposed to be computed
If you've read the whole book series you'll maybe know xD
life is luck based
i said TWO!!
it doesnt answer it in any of the books
basically 42 is the answer for life the universe and everything , but the answer doesn't make sense if you don't know what the question is
oh pair
Hence the maybe haha
a few fellas almost answer it
Although it hints at some things
ok thats my bad yeah i didnt read
21x2=42
like marvin
I never actually found the Hitchhiker's Guide in actual book format, only saw the movie
i read all of the books online
my first contact with hitchikers was a tape of the bbc show
but anyway do you dont want to complete the milestone now @severe whale ?
I would deffo recommend, it is genuinely hilarious and thought provoking
my first was just randomly finding books to read
i want to but if they want to force me to wait i want to do it honestly.. also i have no idea where that file i need to alter is
id like to watch the movie
the funny thing about HGTG is all the various formats are slightly different
only physical books I got right now, is a few Anita Blake Books, and Diablo Legacy of Blood
What’s the progress at?
you said before that the problem was that the cheating software was outdated
42% third tier, 48ish overall
yes ill guide you step by step
!tier
check the Galactic Atlas for milestone progress
Nice.
@calm cliff
hmm
Ummmm
😠not again
Oh no
welp, time to restart!
hey whats your profile pic
It's fine guys dw, just a bug with gunter thats all
but yeah its this
we were progressing too fast
looks like a black cat pointing
Gunterbug
!tier
@worn kindle
and they are all worth it imo
Please be correct👀
silly gunter
you telling me or gunter?
i was just ingame a second ago
A picture of hornet from hollow knight I found on the internet that someone in another server transformed for an event that happened a few month back
Just how
come on man
Holding a gun*
i set you up perfectly
It didn't reset for me.
we're being struck down for our hubris
I want it to be a bug
shouldve just responded with hornet with a gun dammit smh
it is
Still shows tier 3 42%.
Huh?
lol
Oh
43
My brain isn’t braining
i'm like that all the time lol
@wraith venture did something happen?
Visual glitch?
!tier
@stoic wing
does that sometimes
dont ping them for it
people already have done that multiple times, lol
what ya mean?
oh i see. prob a network glitch. will let Doc know just in case
People were freaking out, lol.
I was lol
Bot back up
whew
Time to slams some orbs
That's a relief
Good lord it's taunting us
Cheeky bot.

we all know gunter is evil
Under objectives, games says Echo upload progress 48%..is that My upload or community progress?
obvious from the show
here's a fun fact
your progress doesnt exist
its only community progress
its our progress "soviet anthem plays"
gotcha
!tier
@solid peak
are you able to do the other 3 missions in expadition cause ive done everything besides the optional ones and the echo one
they will unlock when the !tier thing is at 100%
rip
give magic object to piece of trash
i managed to do the two bonus quests, but it was glitched at the time
i just noticed i have 2 echo collectives now....
the tier % goes upby about 5% in an hour
.> where did the second come from? and they both say the same thing
typo lol. its 5%
duped
someone dropped in your inv maybe
someone traded me one in the anomaly
Im at 4/6, 3 encrypted, sent echo pending
at this rate, its about 51 hours until its at 100%
People just duping and handing out echoes at this point, lol.
so if there is a cap per player, does that cap count for multiple saves or just for one ?
but isnt it a timer? whats the point?
its not a timer
nope
They pretty much debunked that it is not a timer.
huh
@ashen shore
how?
It's just going alot faster cuz pc has ODS back up now.
someone saw a date and said "hey its obviously a date, so it can only mean that the expedition is on a timer" , so they jumped to conclusion based on littlee information
it was explained that the date they found is used to set the next CM , and HG can change that
its fine. it will be done by the end of the week still
This person built a landing pad next to a trading post which is, pretty damn pointless, lol.
Ah, the base is underground.
sounds like a bad idea , terrain usually regenerates , or did they fix that ?
It's in a cave, so it won't do anything.
Unless they dug out into the cave here.
Which idk if they did.
Either way, I have landed, and time to join the echo hunt.
My base I made I actually put up in the air.
More building room.
!tier
@hazy vector
!tier
Looks like we're going at a rate of about 1.33-ish tiers per day.
We'll be done Wednesday at this time of day, if we keep pace
Do exo crafts reveal the echoes, or you gotta do it on foot?
scan on foot
but you only gotta be out for like 30 seconds, you can mine em with the exocraft laser
Why did t1 take so long?
Dang, was hoping to do it the easy way.
ODS was down for Steam
idk, can you install the scanner thing on your exocraft?
Was it down for the whole thing?
Haven't tried yet honestly.
It was available for consoles
neither have i
havent thought about it as a possibility until you mentioned the exocraft thing
doubt itd work but itd be cool
no idea what so ever how to do this
go to the monolith
yes im there
ok look around for a funky little thing
There should be a console there.
there should be a purple terminal
It opens when you get close.
nuh uh ion see anything
skill issue
You do need enough atlantideum to charge it tho.
want to stream so we can show you?
On the floor a funny panel should open up
looks like a portal terminal
yes
Same result here. Seems to use the local value then
did none of you say it was on the floor of the monolith 
@exotic fulcrum
i said look around
its on the floor of the monolith 
ground floor, not up the satirs
seemed pretty obvious
Do I have to do the sentience echo mission to progress? Or can I just ignore it and do the other missions?
i can literally see it
Yup
WHAT
yeah same
i cant tell if you;re trolling
no im not
Is it the funny circle on the floor that when you approach it, it rises?
not
WHAT
this?
No.
Nah check right side bottom floor near the middle
walk directly down the stair case your character is pointed at in that screenshot, it'll be on the same outcropping as the knowledge stone but on the left corner of that peninsula
That's what you interact with after you use the console.
It’s like a little panel that rises from the ground floor when you approach it
if it glows but doesnt pop up that means you don't have enough atlantium
!tier
@worn kindle
you need like... i wanna say 210? ish?
Atlantis, my favourite nms expedition
i feel like a fucking knob i dont undersatnd anything
no its ok
is 2.3k atlantium not enough?
no that should be plenty
They have multiplayer turned on don't they? Lol.
There should be a waypoint marking where you need to go on the monolith itself
try using the scanner
if it won't pop up still, save your game and reload it
nuh uh
like, press C
nope nothing
Try creating a pentagram and looking towards the nearest gek statue
yeah, save and reload
Or that
welp alright D;
sniff some grahgrah and eat some geknip , you will see anything you want
bah weep grah nah weep nini bong?
and burn some nipnip bud
wait so did it just bugged out
it's literally exactly the Portal console, basically 👀
its more likely if multiplayer is turned on
except it glows purple
yeah
I was going to trade with traveller and then i got high...
ITS THERE
yay!!! :D
alive 2007
did not get that reference at all but yeah man totally
daft punk concert where they dj'd in a giant pyramid thing
I gotta wait till the echo mission is done to unlock the last 3?
Wow this is going fast
thats what she said
Why would she say that
she was also shocked by the progress, probably
Oh no, local trading post under attack by pirates. But nada demands echoes, so they're on their own.
Whats the limit on Echo seeds
i've heard conflicting info that its either 20 or that there isn't one
nobody knows

the people saying 20 are basing it off of a previous expedition from awhile back
!tier
@arctic beacon
Give it a few hours
it was also capped at 20 in this expedition at some point. it was probably upped to make up for the lost progress when servers were inaccessible to some platforms (at least on Steam). some players couldn't start the expedition save, and contributions weren't counting when ODS was down -- which Sean tweeted about and we shared in #nms-announcements.
I think the dupers got fed up with all the down time and are revolting en masse, lol.
that's tru
touche
HG's always pretty awesome at addressing the issues and concerns. i'm glad the progression is working out better now. i really hope that Switch players can get the update this week so they can help too 
Last step is probably gonna have a massive threshold tho and slow it down.
Pretty sure we'll be done unless they get it by Wednesday around 4pm Eastern.
i reaalllly hope they can get it before that
fingers extra crossed 🤞 🤞 🤞
-looks at hooves- how do you cross fingers without any?
Cross your eyes instead? Steal someone else's fingers and cross those?
hmm why is my echo seed not working ... ?
Working in what respect?
I can’t locate sentience echo idk why
!tier
@fervent patrol
If I scan .. no seed is detected
You on foot?
sure
Odd.
have that analyzer installed
Well that's more like the scan not working than the seed. You need to be on foot and they're sort of spread out. Also mine was invisible the first time, not sure if that's common.
damn 😦
Just remember the scanner is the thing that pings all the things like oxygen and sodium.
You're looking for the symbol with the crystals and the ! I assume? On a planet with corrupted sentinels? If it's a yes to all of those... there are just some places where those things are more common or rare. I've been in spots myself where there just simply where no echo seeds to be found
Make sure you also have multiplayer off, or someone else could of snagged it.
Also they're always invisible at first, you need to scan in the vicinity to make them visible and minable
the icon for Sentience Echo sorta looks like the icon for Radiant Shards except it has 3 crystals instead of 2
thats not how it works really
you have to look through the scanner for the sentience echo waypoint
dontar describes it
it also has an exclamation mark on it
when you get there
there will be nothing
because its invisible
but once you scan it appears before you
you should be able to use the tracking system to find the direction one is
^
had to look at a YT video on how to find
Did my part, turned in my 8. Back to building my base.
8? slacker! gonna need to see 12 more!
the 20 cap isnt real!!!!
You try doing it while lagging like hell.
My base planet rarely lags, lol.
Thats what I get
did you get a seed already?
Wrong visor.
target sweep is only for the first one
because it only does the tracking once
use default mode, look above for icon I posted image of
Do we already have the mass turn in button? Otherwise, that's a really good reason to stop there 😂
i have no idea
i heard of a turn in 10 at once
but i just get a bajillion and send em around the anomaly
cause my ass isnt turning in 350 by hand
Use other visor and look for the icon for it.
If you are standing at the point then do a scan.
Scan as in the thing that pings resources like oxygen and sodium plants.
it will appear like something decloaking
Gotta be really close when you scan it too.
I tried doing it from like 50-100U away and it doesn't work, lol.
yeah right in front of it
also
you CAN choose this milestone
early on
but dont do it before you do literally everything else
@thick umbra
i chose it earlier cause i was afraid to do any of the milestones that felt like choosing sides (anomaly/atlas) but i didnt have the scanner that could detect them
thankfully i didnt look for long, lol
What is a echo site I’m confused
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@west island
we have literally been talking about that this entire time scroll up
.
he might not be that far in the expedition yet
I´m at phase 5 and need only that echo seed and another mission.. plus two optionals
like 99% of everyone else in here lol
Yep
yeah hand in however many you can and then take a break for like 2 days
thats what the !tier is
shows us when the rest of us can actually finish this expedition
!tier
@queen wave
we workin on pc yet>
Yes
remember that servers only accept up to 50 submits per account per day
thanks guys .. found it 🙂
i got hundreds of these things to dump
so don't do more than that and save the excess ones for another day if you happen to get on a grindy mood
i need to see proof of this cuz theres no consistency on this particular topic
Shouldn’t people start giving them out 50 at a time?
todays experimental patch included a new button to the terminal that allows to submit 10 per press. So you could just submit a stack of 10 five times and not bother about it until the next day
I meant giving to other players
ooh right
experimental patch?
on steam
People have been doing that, alot.
Good
This, tbh. The number limits people keep quoting seem to be arbitrary.
Yeah. Well I rather hold the excess ones to myself and submit them the other day. but yeah, you could just give them to a random player too
We should probably all rally eachother to keep doing it
Duping exists
You can dupe stacks and give them to random people
That is also probably what they been doing.
Yeah ik but I play the expeditions the "intended way"
Duping and giving.
I see no harm in that since you can literally just save edit an inventory full of those
I made a joke earlier the dupers got fed up and are revolting.
THIS ISNT REAL
STOP SPREADING MISINFORMATION
GRAAAAGH
Really?
To be fair, we have no proof either way.
the proof is there's nothing in the code about that!!! they just made it up!!!
Tell that to @rare dagger and other NMS network API reverse engineers who have literally sent queries to the servers, checked the decompiled game files and so on
Why not just ask hello games?
there is a literal line there xD
Nothing has to be in the code if it's serverside.
Or do they not answer those sorts of questions?
there is a local variable and a server side block
the server literally stops receiving submits from a player once they reach 50 per day
Can’t you edit that variable via mods?
of course there could be something serverside, but telling people to limit themselves for something they dont know is true is beyond absurd
would you rather limit our progress for no reason?
Sucks hg isn't exactly transparent, lol.
i sure as hell dont
If the server has an "if X user hits 20 on 6/12, then no more count" sort of rule, that would easily do it. But we have no proof either way. Telling people to go above and beyond or limit themselves when we have no proof it takes only 1 per person or would take a trillion is just wasteful.
People should just play how they feel like playing.
unless HG comes out with a statement, there's no reason to tell people to limit themselves. tell people to contribute if they can.
not with a number
fair points
Really, it's not our fault they put up a lame artificial roadblock. We shouldn't be responsible for hurrying ourselves for nothing, if that's the case.
i agree that its filled with awful design choices
but we're doing work with what we have
What’s the point of this stalling?
there's a cynical answer that is true
There is no point, other than the stalling itself.
but i dont want to give it
I just wanted to look like a robot
What’s your answer?
you can literally decompile the game and check for yourself that those things exist in the code xD
what happens to a game when you have nothing to do in it?
and even if you were to change the local values, the server would not accept more than 50 contributions per that account
you dont play it
That’s a clever answer, I’m really impressed
the easiest way to make people play your game for longer is to make your content take longer
Got a source on how it counts days, or whether it's trailing 24h? Also whether that's from the current version release.
for example daily standing caps in warframe
if they werent there people would finish an update that took months to develop in a day
I think it's around the same time as daily QS missions refresh. Will need to ask the people who have delved into the games networking. I'm just an amateur modder and primarily chill player
That's also the easiest way to keep their per-day play time down, lol
Goes both ways, such aspects also tend to make people quit.
Wait, couldn’t decompiling nms make it incredibly easy to pirate?
Or to steal code from
its a multiplayer game
it is constantly pinging the servers
Games like Fortnite artificially limit progression, and that just makes me play for like 30 mins a day (if I even feel like it's worth it that day) and basically NEVER any longer unless they release a bunch of new tasks. lol
Iirc you can play it offline
There are things you can't decompile. It's limited to what HG has allowed us to do with mods and stuff
the only way to pirate it is to stop that ping and erase the multiplayer aspect
It's technically a single player game with multiplayer features 😂
that also erases all server related things
Then why did hg ask them to not reveal some things?
Artificial limits to make things take longer are a cop out, IMO. Make your games more interesting.
We can't affect server related things via modding and stuff. If you try to locally transfer another players base ownership to yourself, it won't change server-side but rather creates a local copy for your game instead. There are things we can't just "hack" on their servers
Ah i get it
but anything local you can mod to your hearts content, be it rewards, currency, inventory etc
i think the easiest way to explain this is you can modify anything that you have access to
I already did more than 50 seeds to feed and I guess Ill have to wait
you do not have access to hello games' server room
Yeah. Basically everything you have on your device is moddable
as for this, ill look in the json myself right now
Sure. It'll be there like it always has been
not even mentioning the fact that it could just be an unrelated variable
like the timers people keep bringing up
Regardless of the local files, there is a server-side cap per player and it's understandable. Otherwise one user could literally save edit inventories full of echoes and leave the character on autoclick to submit them
how could you possibly know about the server side limitations
we just talked about how we dont have access to that
That person would deserve a unique title.
Hero of Expedition 10
no amount of testing will give a concrete answer
the modders who have "specialized" in nms network api have tested this. Local user can still send and receive requests from the server.
nothing special in that
How we looking? Tier wise
we don't know the exact cap on servers but if the people have noticed that the server won't return anything past the 50 mark, it is safe to assume the cap is somewhere around that value
Why can't I have both Crimson and Atlantid heads?
i have my doubts about any kind of "specialized" information that doesnt come from HG directly
several people are typing
!tier
you can
@spare halo
just reload your save after getting one of them
you cant wear both at the same time though
since
you know
you have only one head
grab one, reload earlier autosave, grab the other
Alright but milestone shows "unavailable"
same as QS store trick
Firstly, nice name
Secondly wot?!
wouldn't you need to claim it on your other save first?
Makes note of that....
silly how it's still a thing. I think I reported it over a year ago already
other save? Do I have to start another expedition save?
Nooo keep it secret keep it safe shh
other save as in your main save
So the other two missions still locked?
@queen wave
No need to claim. Once a QS or exp item unlocks, it's immediately unlocked "account wide"
I think its too late for me
quicksilver is stored in the local save while unlocked rewards are account based
How do you feel about running expedition... again
I didnt go reload save after I gave it 😦
quicksilver should be account based too imo
that is
past that point you can reload the save to an earlier timestamp and purchase more QS stuff or receive alternate exp rewards for those 2 choice things
They available now those helmets?
unfortunate
yeah it should
it also makes it so i dont have 10 saves each with like 500 quicksilver
which isnt enough to unlock anything
or could always do the expedition twice 
You probably doomed that save by giving it early anyways.
don't forget "account" based. Not account account as if it was something server side. Everything unlocked "account wide" is basically still local unlocks anyways
yes i know
unless it's a twitch drop. Those go through server side check
but even that can be tricked xD
not true actually
if they made account wise then they would have to change the initial quest that gives some quicksilver otherwise people would just farm that
I guess im screwed up but I can do another expedition, is that okay ? XD
the twitch drop check is internal too
you just have to switch more than one variable
Yes, just dont hand it in early on that one too.
unlike with the qs and expedition stuff where its literally just write its name in there
yup yup
okay should I have wait until Sentience Echo is complete?
Yes.
As in, don't turn it in again until echoes is done.
the format of this expedition is a bit weird, it seems they want people to do a second run through, while the community goal needs to be completed
they fixed that bug
Some people still can.
nah
ok thank you!
i was part of them
Like they just did.
i know whats up
that takes people away from the community research though
they fixed it in a really funny way
if a save is from before the update
they still can
as long as they reload the restore point over and over
if its after
they cannot
Yeah I started expedition on first day lol
same here
Do you know how to do it?
the first thing I thought when I realized I had to make a choice was to test if I could just reload lol, glad I was early in
while i was out you madlads had better have pushed the number far forward
Nah.
only 58%? shaaaaame
i personally only like the atlantid head anyways
I’m really happy about having robot heads!
no reason to skip on the heads since you can unlock both pretty easily
honestly I am not a fan of either , but hopefully we will get more in the future
The head looks weird without the droid body, so I took mine off.
use the rocketeer head
I won't really use the heads but it's nice to have them unlocked
The wayfarer head however is freaken lit.
Rather silly
yeah the 1st person of those is bugged
i only play 1st person
I guess they need to cull that object in first person mode
the new jetpack flames is bugged
They fixed it in experimental
well not everyone has experimental
I'm just saying that it's going to be fixed
I just put in 20 echo seeds holy hell
hey so
where is this from?
i cant find anything like that in my file
problem is all these "fixes" in experimental will drop days after we're done
they should do hot fixes instead of large updates
I am guessing they reverse engineered the game so its in game variables
ask the guy or some of the other guys. I don't really wanna bother trying to debunk several people who have been investigating NMS's networking for so long and been seemingly correct on earlier occasions
don't see what there is to gain really
i just want to see it for myself, not debunk them
the only guy I know on this server who knows that file path is @rare dagger
or who belongs to the group of NMS networking investigators/modders
Ain't it a cool looking helment? I find it really needs the right setup but it looks GREAT!
Does the expedition goal have a timer?
I was told that the time is for community research , as in when it ends and when the new one starts
I'm just a casual modder. By no means do I know the file path or even care about it. I do know about stuff like multiplayer base files saved locally, user IDs and so on'
but that's about it
Yep, looks good for me on the armor set we started this expedition with.
not really a timer that it completes it though
I wanna get that armored set tho.
his last message says that it doesnt freeze the count with the cap
even mentioning you 
So much quick silver needed for the whole thing tho.
so basically if CR is doing too slow they push the deadline foward, if its going quick they can start a new one earlier
it's my understanding that the means in which that information is being gathered is not to be relayed to the general pop, per the group's agreement with HG.
the one that costs about 3000 Quicksilver per part?
Yeah. The new counter added in todays experimental uses the locally saved var to display your personal contribution
it will reset to a smaller value if you reload an earlier save
I think so. I would have to log back in and go look.
so it can't possibly fetch the personal contribution value from servers
Oh we're also getting a counter to display how many we've personally invested? That's neat!
so we could see the progress go down?
No. You reloading an earlier save has no effect on submitted values server side
gahh
there is one already, been there since launch, just the local variable but not the display
Kzzzzt!
https://twitter.com/AssistantNMS/status/1667961506565160961
The last time the HG-NMS-API reverse engineering team talked about this, we were contacted by HG and asked to keep it quiet
well, i have grinded for all the parts of it i am interested in, so everything except the armoured chestplate (the part that goes on top of the torso)
Yeah, I think that part is the most expensive. I don't have any of the set yet tho.
ah yes
well that's understandable
I wonder if anyone will relay it to the general public
!tier
@gentle coral
@royal slate so you'll need to observe the network traffic instead of dig through game files. Sorry I was incorrect!
Jeez that went by fast
haha
Just a few hours ago it was 12%
Everytime somebody does that command someone says "that's fast!" xD
Cuz it is!
Although I do admit this time I did think the same thing
wonder how much the 10 submits per button thing changed things
is that live yet
there are only so many emojis he can choose from
He can use 2 at a time if he wants to unleash his true power
doesn't seem like it. Maybe tomorrow. They forgot to isolate experimental players from public ones with this one though, resulting in a silly effect with the player hitbox changes
experimental players use the smaller player hitboxes and can get "inside" public branch players hitboxes which causes the public branchers to get pushed around
haha nice
you can just push them out of the way from QS store and such without the need of personal shield generator
We are only 2 parts in to a 4 part story arc, so hey lore is getting good!
btw, i am happy to announce that we have reached 60% of tier 3!
If the atlantids promise freedom from ||the simulation||, they should probably prove it
I remember what happened with exp2 when the bar went up way too quickly
anyways. Time for some sleeps. Goodnight travelers!
Gn
Imagine they pull out an ULTRAKILL move and post a library of babel link ingame
Goodnight both of you, i will probably stay awake for a few more hours even tho its past midnight lol...
well
realistically
we're limited to three races
three real races, anyway
Atlantids
because those are the rules of the aforementioned spoiler
i wouldnt call them an entire race
i would call them like
a faction
I guess
like the infestation is a faction not a race
But they're so different
to me a race would have to be something that can control a solar system
Are sentinels a race then
And for all the retconning they do with systems already, doing it with a whole new race seems a lil much
which one? the whispering egg aliens or the big worms?
uh
My mind went to warframe
ok thank god i can use another warframe analogy here
fourth time today on this server
for example
the ostron arent a race
the red veil isnt a race
i would call cephalons a race because im not talking about the literal meaning

im talking about stuff like how the corpus, grineer, infested, corrupted, and sentient can all be mission objectives
in other words
the big lads
the korvax
the uh
other guys
the geks
They're still considered a race
ahhhh, ok yeah i see... i thought by Infestation you meant something in NMS, and so i thought of the only NMS things that could be described as such lol
How did this channel become a Warframe discussion
is there a milestone for getting sixty billion standing with the travelers
!tier
@ashen shore
🤌🤌
i did mean that but i got into territory i didnt understand so i quickly backtracked
It keeps accelerating
But the Americans are gonna rise from their slumbers
also having the code in the name is a really good idea hang on
there we go
wait ill add the little things
Bia in my language means come
We are coming home from work
Holy shit its an america
basically, two people were having a conversation about the possibility that we could get a new race into NMS, then when someone mentioned "infestation" i immediately asked if that meant either whispering eggs or big worms from NMS, and then the explaining turned into a warframe discussion to set an example about what can be considered a race and what is just a faction...
n

man i really hope its in the come and go sense
Thankfully it is
ill take it
in irish it means to consume/eat i think
its short for bianca which means white in spanish i also think
and its my name in romanian
Mr worldwide
mfw i need access
East Coast US fella here, people are either coming home from work or on the west coast it's still early to mid afternoon given they're 3 hours behind us.
As do I
make it public
its 2 am here
haha you're behind us
!tier
@gentle swallow
Hm, it should be public. Times are EDT.
Here's a direct link to the spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MTW4szj2p9IvwQ-nbqjcXPNjm83BjofkEOxjJpUCqtU/edit#gid=1465180848
I was referencing an ingame line
oh yeah it works now
however it is actually like
uh
doxxing someone
i can see their full name but i wont say it obviously
T something
if thats you might want to figure out a way to go private
What
In that case maybe I'll stick to copying and pasting screencaps.
Where is it doxxing
doesnt matter
It shouldn't be anymore---I changed the privacy settings. Thanks for the heads-up.
i always hated that it showed the account name
wanna try again?
send me in dms the link
!tier
@arctic beacon
Cause I don’t want to get doxxed, what is the estimate for full completion
Oh alr then
but people with editing privileges dont
Still can’t log in
yes
