nms-expedition

[indigo falcon]

same. turns out it was indeed just name confusion

[meager scroll]

(sandworm is the one in the back, just to be clear)

Another one in action

[coral phoenix]

Excuse me but there are swarms and hostile worms, how to hell am I gonna talk to grave?

[scarlet ocean]

But I really was mentioning the Dune version of it. This entire expedition is giving me that vibe.

[coral phoenix]

Do I need to use minotaur?

[scarlet ocean]

Mino does make it easier.

[meager scroll]

Expedition 4 Emergence was all about sand worms

And it went live near the release of Dune movie

[scarlet ocean]

Fly in with Mino, talk to, fly out with Mino.

[pine relic]

Here's one with rainbows in a chromatic fog planet

[lusty slate]

I have a killer sandworm clip, but not sure if I can post it.

[scarlet ocean]

Note to self, bring a whole lot of bullets when I do that expedition.

Man I'm going to be freaked out on that one a lot.

[coral phoenix]

Yeah somehow could pass that nightmarish location and could talk grave.... Holy s....

[pine relic]

is it the one from the pre-release 'trailer'? that one was... very controversial lol

unless its not from NMS

[scarlet ocean]

Ha... you should have seen me struggle with the second memory hotspot... ffs that was just agony.

[lusty slate]

Oh no. It's one I took myself via the Switch video capture.

[coral phoenix]

2nd? I think mine was 3rd. I hate hill planets really.

[scarlet ocean]

I had so much trouble in that friggin hole...

[pine relic]

Nice, I don't know if its allowed in this channel but there is a channel for it that you could then copy the message link I suppose... #nms-media

[lusty slate]

I just completed that. Storm activated immediately after engaging with the grave and got corrupted Sentinels. Only didn't die thanks to the terran manipulator.

I was like "welp, down we go, later losers".

[coral phoenix]

First grave was top of hill which I died in my first try.
3rd grave was exactly like this in picture for me as well, it first landed me bottom of hole then I had to climb top of climb ....

In "A Shattered Path" objective what am I supposed to do ? I literally warped 6k light years but I think it leads me to this:

[pine relic]

erm, pretty sure you didn't need to do any of that warping, whatever it is that you're chasing...

what does the actual milestone say?

[coral phoenix]

Ah it says activate pulse drive.

I'm dumb.

[pine relic]

I did mention that its used like one of the 'find a derelict' scanner thingies yeah?

lol

[coral phoenix]

Wait is it derelict one?

[scarlet ocean]

It's also not "Path"

[coral phoenix]

Cuz I think there was easy one.

[coral phoenix]

It has been long expedition. 😭

[scarlet ocean]

Anyway, I just finished that one. It's doing a Derelict Freighter.

Just have to pulse.

[pine relic]

just use the item, pulse, and it will find a derelict, which you have to finish, doing all terminals

[coral phoenix]

Yeah I think there was easy one in pins.

[pine relic]

that item that you wanted to throw away

[coral phoenix]

I'll probably find a portal and go there and do it.

[pine relic]

I'd just do any derelict because its just such a hassle to go to a specific system for it, but you do you I guess :P

they're all pretty easy to do as long as you go slow and hug the heaters

[coral phoenix]

I just don't want any robots, swarm or any stuffs in that derelict atm tbh.

[indigo falcon]

there is an easy one, it has a lot ofloot crates too

[south dune]

I’m farming dioxite first dioxite + thermal protection shield things is reaaaally nice in there. Not sure if it’s as good on permadeath but worth a try and I’m in no rush

[scarlet ocean]

...Man I was this close to screaming at the screen.

Anyway. Supercharging this is pretty good on the freighter too.

Can't beat an entire 50%.

[pine relic]

that works too, tho I didn't take any of the fancy approaches to it, even in survival mode with just the starting techs you have plenty of time to go from one heater to the next

[scarlet ocean]

Mine was... not so fortunate ._.

One time I had to clear 4 rooms before I found the next heater. And then the next room proceeded to have 3 in there.

[south dune]

Fair enough better safe than sorry I suppose. Few things irk me more than losing progress so I’ll just stock up and play it safe

[indigo falcon]

do what you need to do to stay alive and get it done

[coral phoenix]

Exactly. I'll definitely take safest option too.
Like supercharging thermic layer.

[coral phoenix]

So wait I don't use emergency signal scannar but should use A Dreadful Wailing?

[pine relic]

yes

[coral phoenix]

And I assume I'm not gonna take emergency signal scanner with me or leave it in my ship and leave it freighter?

[pine relic]

it shouldn't matter as long as you don't activate 'em

[coral phoenix]

Alright.

[indigo falcon]

don't activate it and you have it for later

pro tip: collect lots of somnal dust and turn it in, you get a free signal scanner for each batch, or at lesat you used to

these are nice if you want to keep the save later

[pine relic]

still true

I ended up with like 10 of the damn things

[indigo falcon]

nice!

[stark root]

I'm really hating this expedition right now. I'm stuck in a system with 2 planets, 1 is a very mountainous hot planet and the other is an aggressive sentinal planet. I have no fuel in my warp drive, no oxygen to make the warp cores, no ion batteries to refuel with...ugh, i might just give up and not do it. 😔

[hoary rapids]

so what are these optional milestones about? Just keep bringing liquid sun and what not to Polo?

@stark root It gets easier

[pine relic]

they're a community effort type thing, whenever an optional milestone gets cleared the expedition becomes easier

[hoary rapids]

Thanks

[scarlet ocean]

Weeeeeeeeeee

[iron radish]

how does it get easier?

[pine relic]

You can always use the station, assuming the system has one, or the anomaly, to teleport to any less annoying system to get the fuel and whatnot

[pine relic]

It improves the starting gear and the quality of mods from opening memories with each cleared optional milestone

[lusty slate]

Done. Here is it is.

#nms-media message

[pine relic]

nice, the first few times I got startled by 'em quite a bit

[indigo falcon]

ion batteries, well let's see. you need ferrite dust and cobalt for that, both can be purchased, in the meantime look for plants or sodium to deal with hazard prot, there's wild plants that when harvested will restore some decent percentage

[scarlet ocean]

Is it going to be like this until this save becomes a 'normal' save?

[pine relic]

yes

[scarlet ocean]

That's... honestly annoying...

[golden condor]

And expedition done. 🙇‍♂️

[scarlet ocean]

I am in so much pain due to the freighter item warp not being there.

[pine relic]

yep its pretty inconvenient not to have it

[scarlet ocean]

It costs 50. 50.

[mellow gate]

How long does an expedition usually take to complete?

[pine relic]

depends on the player. For me this one was about 4 hours played.

[coral phoenix]

Wait, I created ||Whalesong Flute and found Living Frigate said I'm ready then I returned to save select screen|| am I supposed to say not ready?

[mellow gate]

I've been playing for a while I'm just coming back so I'm a bit rusty😅

[pine relic]

||load the save again :P||

[indigo falcon]

go to your save and see what's up

[iron radish]

what the fuck am i suppose to do

[indigo falcon]

you had no real choice but to try to break the loop, did you?

[coral phoenix]

Oh yeah now it is completed, confused me for a second lol.

[lusty slate]

If you run across an ice planet, stock up on dioxite. You can use it for live support instead of oxygen and save your ox for crafting.

[pine relic]

that screenshot tells me nothing about your question

[iron radish]

what are those things

and do they try to kill you

[indigo falcon]

thw worms? yeah they will

stay outa reach

[pine relic]

only if you get too close to the ones marked with the red icons (which you already did)

[lusty slate]

Titan burrows.

[iron radish]

yea i can solo

[lusty slate]

Just avoid them.

[iron radish]

oh my god theres 5 of them now

[coral phoenix]

Finally, jumpscares are over. I'm free.

[pine relic]

the worms are easy tbh, the accompanying swarms of monstrosities scares me more

[indigo falcon]

that's why it's best to stay away

[lusty slate]

I mean, on my main save I have an favorite infested I run around for sport, but nooooot here.

[indigo falcon]

no need to engage with them

[coral phoenix]

Thank you Apergos and Bliss for helping out, appreciated really.

[indigo falcon]

glad to see you make it through to the other side!

[coral phoenix]

Well it was a bit difficult journey but except gravestones, I enjoyed it.

Especially gravestone 5 was metal.

[pine relic]

My favorite thing is something that I guess most people didn't notice

[coral phoenix]

What is it?

[pine relic]

||Seeing all the living frigates warp into the atmosphere whenever you approach anchor points and graves||

which is pretty damn rare, if it can even happen, outside of the expedition

[coral phoenix]

||Oh yeah I noticed that, it was quite awesome scenery tbh. I think there were 3 warped.||

For a second I'm even cautious to not get closer in case they attack or smh lol.

[indigo falcon]

I think a number of people noticed that, I saw that not for those locations but at other points along the way on the original run

[scarlet ocean]

This is a funny side effect of the expedition huh.

The price actually going out of the orange.

[indigo falcon]

lolol

[pine relic]

The price itself is intentional but I suppose you mean the display bug

[lusty slate]

Anyone else cheated a death by getting into the menu and restoring a previous restore point just in time lol.

[pine relic]

nope, but I chickened out of a few encounters by quickly hopping into my ship and GTFO'ing.

[scarlet ocean]

Yeah.

[coral phoenix]

Now you gotta farm those nanites.

[lusty slate]

I only used restore save once. Warped into my A2 base at the worst time possible and was like "Yeah, no".

[pine relic]

heh

[hoary rapids]

I had to dig a couple of holes when trying to do the sentinel pillar. I came pretty close to dying there

[coral phoenix]

I actually used save editor to use my latest save or close to latest.

Since I died and my original progress and objectives are deleted.

And kept secondary saves other than game itself with save editor.

[lusty slate]

I don't feel bad about it, I literally caught it just before my health depleted and was kinda impressed.

[coral phoenix]

I mean for me, out of blue my hazard protection destroyed then I took damage( still don't know what it hit me). I was flabbergasted what the hell happened.
Before I could check then repair I died.
Especially a sentinel in aggressive planet which was close to me and close titan worm burrow didn't help at all.

[lusty slate]

Yowch.

Yeah, I warped into my A2 base... during a storm and immediately triggered Sentinels. Went to the menu ASAP, as there was no way. (My haz went to zero literally instantly and the Sentinels were barring my ship)

Then I hopped into my ship after resetting and flew to my A2 base manually instead. Lesson learned.

[coral phoenix]

Well first sentinel pillar I found was in aggressive sentinel planet I tried to snipe it quick several times without minotaur sentinel sees me. Failed. Then pirates started to bombard my location, I just was like, meh I'm outta here and found a sentinel pillar in non aggressive planet in next system.

[pine relic]

lol

[hoary rapids]

oof that was some bad luck

[coral phoenix]

Worse part Morgeil, if sentinels attack you and you hop your ship, things get worse, they send ships after you.
Hard to shake them off.

[pine relic]

different approaches I guess... I just found some random aggressive sentinel planet and murdered waves of sentinels until they deactivated, didn't need to find a pillar at all

[pine relic]

pretty easy to shake 'em off actually - just summon the anomaly right in front of you and boost to the glowing circle of safety

[lusty slate]

Oh yeah, the anomaly is your friend when caught in space battles. Summon it and peace out.

[pine relic]

had to do that after slightly pissing off the space sentinels by missing a pirate and bombarding the space station with rockets instead

[coral phoenix]

Sometimes things get in the way to, warped ships, planet approximately etc. But yeah I mostly summon anomaly to avoid sentinel or pirates.

[coral phoenix]

Don't we all do that? XD

[pine relic]

yeah, just a minor oopsie lol

[iron radish]

i feel like there should be an achievement during this expedition for wiping out a sentinel platoon on an infested planet

[indigo falcon]

you get a pillar map after whacking 5 sentinels, which isn't that bad to do honestly

but also there are a tone of player bases visible now

[coral phoenix]

I can't count how many times I angered fellow miner ship while murdering asteroids or shoot freighter which I was trying to protect lol.

[indigo falcon]

want a pillar? check the teleport list at the space station

[iron radish]

is banished glass just hacking a sentinel pillar

[pine relic]

like I mentioned, I just wiped out 5 consecutive wanted waves and that shuts them off, but pillars are another way to go

[indigo falcon]

those asteroid miners are just fools, the zip right in front of you or worse yet they sit on the other side of the asteroid where you don't even see them, then get pissed off when they take some hits

[iron radish]

fuck the walker bruh

id die

so fast

[indigo falcon]

yes, you don't have to hack the pillar, just walk up to it, interact with the terminal

it's that simple

[pine relic]

walkers are easier than quads... o.o

[iron radish]

how

its just get in ur ship, blow up the dudes, hack and ur done

[pine relic]

shoot leg armor off, stunned, shoot off the other leg armor, shoot off chest armor, go to town while strafing to get out of the way of lasers

[coral phoenix]

Agree on that, just aim one legs, then aim head then leg then head again. It mostly either dies or pretty damaged.

Quads however really nasty, they move too much, hard to kill them off.

[pine relic]

and their slam attack hurts

[coral phoenix]

Oh yeah, it does.

I think minotaur also causes unnecessary enviromental damage and if it lands a hit, oh boy... It can really hurt.

[pine relic]

the senti-taur is a bit trickier, that flamethrower can take some chunks of your shield if you're not paying attention

but its pretty easy to dodge by jetpacking

[iron radish]

if im in a sentinel fight can i reload an autosave or is that option turned off when in combat

[coral phoenix]

Yeah. I mean easy to avoid tho. Most of time you don't get hit or quickly get outta way.

[pine relic]

you should be able to reload

I haven't tried in forever tho so they might have changed that when I wasn't paying attention

[scarlet ocean]

It's not hard to blow off a pillar tho. Just take a shot gun, shoot 3 times each, interact with terminal to shut down. No killing anything involved.

[indigo falcon]

you don't have to shoot anything

go to the terminal straight away

shut down sentinels, then do what you want

[pine relic]

you don't but it is free loot, tasty nanites from sentinel mods...

[scarlet ocean]

Didn't you have to destroy the 3 smaller piillars?

[indigo falcon]

shoot the nodes after, of course

[scarlet ocean]

Til ig.

[pine relic]

yeah you can hack the pillar without destroying the nodes

[indigo falcon]

the nexus missions are a whole different thing but nope

[scarlet ocean]

I'll note for next time :P

[pine relic]

unless its for a nexus / space station mission

then you do have to destroy the nodes and fight

[indigo falcon]

this is likely why it's hard to find the pillars, so people can't just walk up idly and turn off the cops

[pine relic]

on the other hand if you want to live in some aggro sentinel planet all you need to do is place a secondary outpost with a teleporter next to a pillar and shut them off whenever you're doing stuff at that planet

[indigo falcon]

very handy indeed, enclose the pad (not even the whole terminal) in the base, make sure the teleporter is in that room, bounce in, click, done

da fuzz doesn't even know what hit 'em

[coral phoenix]

I'm curious there was an item from expedition rewards that helps to upgrade exosuit slots.
Can't remember its name. does anyone remember it?

[iron radish]

yall are tripping

[pine relic]

its one of the memories

[indigo falcon]

exosuit inventory chart or something? or do you mean the exosuit inv slots you can apply?

[iron radish]

took me 3 minutes by shooting the quads with a ship and then hacking it

[pine relic]

when unpacked it can drop either 5 suit slots, 5 ship slots, or 5 MT slots

[coral phoenix]

Yeah the thing you apply.

[indigo falcon]

those are only an expedition thing, you can't get them any other way

[coral phoenix]

Ah I see.

[pine relic]

actually...

you can get the items that the memories unpack into, but not the 'effect' that triggers the slot upgrade screen automatically

so when getting the slot upgrade items in a regular save you'd still have to go to whatever machine would apply that type of slot upgrade

[coral phoenix]

But I don't think you can create memories in normal save tho? You basically don't learn its blueprint in your original save.

[indigo falcon]

if you know the blueprint

but you likely just get a bunch of C class crap

[pine relic]

not the memory, but you can get the item that the memory unpacks into

suit storage upgrade or whatever its called

[lusty slate]

So reading the pins ||can I save the Sentinel stuff for after I break the loop? That's easiest, right? Break the loop then go back and mop up?||

[indigo falcon]

because once the expd is over, I expect they give C level stuff again

[pine relic]

yes

[indigo falcon]

you certainly can

[coral phoenix]

I mean yeah you can do almost whole stuff then handle ||sentinel kill and deactivate|| related stuffs later.
I did them along the way when I see sentinel here and there when planet wasn't that difficult to survive.

[fervent patrol]

cycle observed

how

[pine relic]

is that a milestone name or what?

[indigo falcon]

optional

[fervent patrol]

yes

optional one

[indigo falcon]

community effort completes it

[fervent patrol]

ah

i see

thats

[indigo falcon]

you only help, just like with quicksilver item unlocks

[fervent patrol]

thats a very interesting thing

[pine relic]

yeah, entirely optional in terms of getting the account unlocks

[fervent patrol]

after dying the first time, am i required to die again

[coral phoenix]

No and actually you should die at first then avoid to die at all cost.

[indigo falcon]

you are not required to kill yourself

only at the very beginning, that's it, to get it done

[coral phoenix]

It is semi-permadeath save. If you die, you lose already done objectives, items and I think already installed techs.

But your save won't be deleted.

[indigo falcon]

the related pin in here explains what you keep

[fervent patrol]

so just dont die then after the first

[coral phoenix]

Yes.

[fervent patrol]

it would really suck if i was at the end and i died to a predator

[indigo falcon]

you got it

[coral phoenix]

And especially be careful when you're searching for gravestones and after you talked..

[pine relic]

unlikely tho, predators are usually easy to deal with... if you're really concerned just keep some creature pellets to throw in case of danger, that calms them right up

[indigo falcon]

original run I died after doing all of 1-2-3 and some of 4

[pine relic]

or down?

[indigo falcon]

it was pretty aggravating

[pine relic]

probably down.

[coral phoenix]

Probably.

[indigo falcon]

rile them up, calm them down, heh

[lusty slate]

Okay, popping out for food. When I get back, I'll try to power through A3 and A4.

[pine relic]

when I'm tired I start to lose my secondary language skills lol

[lusty slate]

Might pop over to the storm crystal base I made on the way and stock up. Though my heat resilience is terrible. Might just spend the extra time doing warp cells, dunno.

[indigo falcon]

could be worse, you could lose your thinking skills 😛

[pine relic]

can't lose what you don't have

[indigo falcon]

when you get the minotaur geobay, put that at your base, it will remain in case of... issues

[digital thistle]

Is Anchor point 2 underground or something? Every time I get there -- look out for the point -- it's always below me

[pine relic]

the minotaur makes for a very good portable hazard shelter, too

[pine relic]

that's an approximate location, you need to get out and use your visor to find the actual location (or use the pinned messages for coordinates)

[digital thistle]

Yes, I am, that's the look out for the point

[lusty slate]

Yeah, I had that problem to. There's a base called Anchor 2 Lookout. That'll give you a better idea where it actually is.

[digital thistle]

It is not there.

[digital thistle]

How do I get it to start approx location ? because it isn't doing that at all for this point. It let me find the "to crave the stars" fine

[pine relic]

unless your game is having real trouble loading up objects in which case a save and restart would usually fix it

the anchor point is a giant portal, its not, and cannot be, underground.

[pine relic]

make sure that the anchor point milestone is set as active, too.

[lusty slate]

If you're at the lookout base, turn on the target sweep and look in that direction. It's in a valley just beyond it. Once I figured that out, I used my ship to land around that valley.

[pine relic]

by clicking on it or console equivalent

[lusty slate]

Or look down below the lookout base and land near that large structure.

[digital thistle]

Ohboy IDK if it's me or my pc today, but if I see "Landing not clear" one more time as I'm skimming the flippin' planet flatter than salt flats - Imma lose it.

[pine relic]

10 bucks on you losing it.

[digital thistle]

I literally do not understand it - it's been all day with it - and I've been landing just fine on my main game.

[pine relic]

flying really slow mitigates the problem a bit, but doesn't completely fix it.

[indigo falcon]

sometimes it's just gonna be that way

[digital thistle]

99% of the time -- it is clear, flatter than the salt flats, and I'm skimming the ground practically sending my keyboard into the ground with "e to land" -- Landing not clear! HOW ? Is there a whole bubble I don't see?

[pine relic]

some planets the ship auto landing just flat out doesn't like... once I managed to land literally perching on a tree rather than the flat ground all around it

[lusty slate]

I usually fly slow until the flora spawns and then try.

[digital thistle]

I have done this with the organic after the update initially. xD So glad that got fixed.

[digital thistle]

I do something like 20u while trying to circle my ideal landing spot.

Trying again for the 2nd spot .. :I reloaded the entire game from close to restart.

[pine relic]

and there's your problem, having ideal landing spots. I just accept that my ship has a mind of its own and let it land wherever it damn well pleases. Its like a well trained puppy, no matter what sometimes its still gonna pee on the couch.

[indigo falcon]

long as I can walk away, it was a good landing...

[pine relic]

yep, as long as I don't take lethal fall damage from getting out of the ship, its good enough for me

[fervent patrol]

mmmmm

[digital thistle]

Okay Pilot lol

[indigo falcon]

hey they still havent' yanked my license, what can I say

[pine relic]

maybe that's why those sentinel ships are following me everywhere

[indigo falcon]

54% progress

from 38% earlier in the day, not bad. people doing the weekend mission helping out

[shy dagger]

Is there a precise star sistem i should use the emergency scanner?

[pine relic]

not really, but there's supposedly a system with a particularly easy derelict somewhere in the pins

not necessary, but maybe you want it to be extra easy

[digital thistle]

albeit off topic but I have severe flight-phobia to a point of needing to be knocked out to even load me up as a patient. I've flirted with the idea of learning to fly just to get through the fear.

and then I walk into the wall corner, and reminded if I drive as well as I walk -- flying is probably just asking for the Reaper to get me LOL

[scarlet ocean]

Looking at that... I can feel how annoying mine was when I walked out with 1700+ dust things...

Scorched Earth style, but still.

[warm coral]

Time to do the fucking

Whispering eggs

God bless my soul

[pine relic]

on the bright side, that's potentially up to 17 useless pieces of packed tech that you can sell for nanites to unlock useful stuff like the emeril drive if you haven't gotten it yet

[scarlet ocean]

Eggs aren't hard, just open one, pick up said egg. Fly up on your ship

[pine relic]

or hide in a building

(self made or pre-existing)

[warm coral]

Was intending on this

[scarlet ocean]

...Sadly it was the very last mandatory mission. Aka the end.

[pine relic]

well, still worth turning it all in to help along in the community goals :P

[scarlet ocean]

Yep, that was done yes. Still annoyed that the 2 AoE sub weapons are trash at actual AoE damage

What were they called, geo cannon and what

[pine relic]

plasma launcher?

[scarlet ocean]

Yeah that

[pine relic]

its pretty good actually

other than being a smidge suicidal

[sinful aurora]

I died yesterday. I haaattee dying. Usually when I die, I quit to a new save. I couldn't on this one. It saddens me

[scarlet ocean]

I lobbed 40 shots into a room and it didn't even kill 2 of the things that spawn from the pods.

And there were 40 in the room

Because I popped 5 sacks

[pine relic]

that's a quirk of derelicts tho, a lot of scattered crap blocking the explosions from hitting the enemies... outdoors it should be pretty effective

[sinful aurora]

On the derelicts you can despawn the tiny enemies.

[scarlet ocean]

It was a very ffs moment 😑

[pine relic]

the geo canon however I do find kinda pointless... the theory is to dig a pit under stuff to use as a sort of crowd control but it just makes it more annoying to hit the damn things

[scarlet ocean]

I dunno what I would use it for outsides tho... not a lot of AoE needed.

[pine relic]

in the past I used it more of like a noob tube basically, to very quickly take out annoying enemies like quads and such

properly upgraded with 3 S class mods, it should one shot quads.

[scarlet ocean]

It's a sub weapon tho? it doesn't have any upgrade mods

[pine relic]

of course it does

geo cannon does too

[scarlet ocean]

?

[royal slate]

whats the easiest way for me to get deuterium considering i cant get a medium or large refiner?

[scarlet ocean]

Did you take a look in your freighter

[sinful aurora]

I couldn't find my freighter

[royal slate]

i have a freighter??????????

[scarlet ocean]

I... what? Why did I never see those mods anywhere.

[pine relic]

they're in a lot of space station MT vendors...

[indigo falcon]

everyone spawns in with a free c class frieghter

enjoy

[scarlet ocean]

It has a large refinert, a good number of Nips too

[primal gale]

i cant find a storm crystal planet can someone pls help its the last thing i need

[pine relic]

that part is random, mine spawned with a useless outside walkway and a free cargo box

[sinful aurora]

Pins has 2 worlds with them. Storm crystals

[indigo falcon]

see the location pin for a couple

[scarlet ocean]

...Yikes, Mine spawned with an entire garden area, 10 Nips even.

[pine relic]

here, first random station that I went to check, both plasma launcher and geo cannon mods (albeit C class)

[scarlet ocean]

A pair of glass, solarium, fecium, and flower

Man... I feel like I've been blind wtf.

[pine relic]

not sure why you thought secondary weapons couldn't have mods lol

only the useless secondary crap doesn't, like the force shield or the scope

[scarlet ocean]

Well... because the Terrain Manipulator doesn't. And for some reason I never noticed them

[pine relic]

that's not a secondary tho :P

[scarlet ocean]

I guess that's what I'll be hunting for on my Survival save though.

[warm coral]

Why are all my stuff so much more expensive

I got like 770 nanites for a c class

[pine relic]

probably because you're in an expedition save which gets 10 times the price on everything

[scarlet ocean]

That's a standard save.

[warm coral]

Makes sense

[royal slate]

aaaaand

of course it has nothing in it

[warm coral]

I tend to keep my stuff on expensive anyway

[royal slate]

:^)

[scarlet ocean]

50 fsm for the matter beam is still 🫠🫠🫠

[pine relic]

for this particular save it doesn't matter since I'm doing a self-imposed challenge of not buying anything with nanites or units :P

[royal slate]

holy shit

thats like the entirety of the fsm needed on normal mode

[scarlet ocean]

Yes it's 50. Also Freighter paint costs 50000

[pine relic]

I'd have to run the math on that but just the freighter hyperdrive upgrades would eat most of 50 SFMs

[royal slate]

sooo no advanced refining for me

[vapid briar]

What are these community expeditions anyway. I started one last night but didn’t play long, all I know is it’s a pain getting resources all over again lol

[scarlet ocean]

Iirc the refinery is unlocked from the start?

[pine relic]

!faq-expedition @vapid briar

[unkempt kraken]

@vapid briar
to view, enable Link Preview

<:expedition:950228868080467978> **Expedition Tips**

(run bot commands in #bot-spam)

• Game Mode Explained: Expeditions are an alternate time-limited, season-like game mode with a set of challenges rewarding exclusive items that can be claimed in any and all of your saves, in any game mode account-wide. When you finish the expedition you may convert your save to a pre-determined game mode -- most expeditions convert to Normal, with the exception of Expedition 7 which converted to Survival. At the end of the event, the game forces the conversion.

• ⚠️ You are required to start your save at least 48 hours before the event ends. Give yourself ample time for completing an expedition.

• Save often: Manual save with starship (by getting out) or save beacons/points.

• Save before claiming a reward, in case the reward glitches. Save after receiving the reward, in case the game crashes after.

• Don't hoard stuff early on. Exosuit storage is not abundant when you start out. Before you can upgrade storage, only keep items for active quests or what you need for survival (e.g., oxygen or life support gel, sodium or sodium nitrate for hazard protection). Sell or discard everything else. Hover over loot you come across, the item card says what you can use it for.

Double check before getting rid of items received from milestones, as they may be useful for other milestone requirements.

• Update Multiplayer configurations: Disable PvP and Base permissions to reduce potential headaches, like being griefed by other players. If you experience glitches, especially in heavily populated areas, including the Space Anomaly or warping with your freighter, disable Multiplayer and reload your save. See multiplayer visual guide »

• For more expedition tips, see Pins in #nms-expedition.

• For gameplay or technical questions, also check #nms-questions.

• Bug Reports: Type !HelloGames for HG Helpdesk links, including the bug report form.

• Other Commands helpful during expedition events:
!ExpTime - Active Expedition time remaining.

Contributors: RedHotTrouble#3707, Atlas Emissaries

[royal slate]

no

[scarlet ocean]

At least, I didn't unlock anything and I could build them.

[pine relic]

freighter refiner is unlocked as soon as you get a freighter, which in this expedition means from the start, yes.

[vapid briar]

O

[royal slate]

what

[scarlet ocean]

See

[royal slate]

i cant

build one

[scarlet ocean]

Told you

[pine relic]

lack of materials perhaps?

45 gold, 60 silver, 2 jelly

[royal slate]

no like its not there

[shy dagger]

You guys know where a sentinel pillar is? (Except the first solar sistem cause i misread and didnt see it was there. I dont wanna waste fuel lol)

[royal slate]

@shy dagger kill 5 sentinels

[scarlet ocean]

Just use a map.

[royal slate]

you need it for a milestone

youll get a free map that way

[pine relic]

you can use space station teleporters to go to any previously visited station for free (and then back)

[scarlet ocean]

Can just buy one for 1 nav data too. Which is super cheap.

Many stations have like 4-5 nav data just lying around on the desks

[pine relic]

are you looking in the right tab of the build menu?

[shy dagger]

I didnt visit the space stations heh

[shy dagger]

Gotcha

[royal slate]

yeah no i figured it out soon after posting my message

[scarlet ocean]

Gotta look closer :P

[royal slate]

i thought itd be in freighter technology with the market and what-not

[warm coral]

Silly question

[pine relic]

well, there you go :P

[warm coral]

If I jump of a giant cliff with the minotaur will I die 💀

[indigo falcon]

some players have already built and uploaded sentinel pillar bases, check those out too in space station teleporter lists

[pine relic]

nope

[scarlet ocean]

No

[warm coral]

Excellent

[royal slate]

btw

anyone else getting that weird 124% fuel needed to summon bug?

whats that about

do not post the hello games bug report thing

[pine relic]

I didn't notice, but its probably a display error and it should summon if it has 100% fuel

[royal slate]

are all solars like that?

or is it the gamemode

[scarlet ocean]

Gamemode

[pine relic]

gamemode

[royal slate]

blargh

[pine relic]

once you have uranium it ceases to matter anyway

[royal slate]

yeah but like
thats just an annoying way to make something harder

[pine relic]

a stack of uranium lasts a really long time

[royal slate]

since its not HARDER

its just

boring

[scarlet ocean]

Though things considered, the fuel needed to call a ship doesn't seem to be scaled down with launch fuel -% mods

[royal slate]

since now i have to walk 1000 units to my spacecraft everytime i go out on foot to search for something

[pine relic]

or keep the tank full before venturing out on foot

[royal slate]

thats annoying to do as well

i mean, its not just me, right?

whats yall's opinion on this

[pine relic]

doesn't bother me in the slightest and I play permadeath exclusively :P

[royal slate]

to me it just feels like whatever the opposite of QoL is

[scarlet ocean]

You can go closer to the destination on your ship you know. Not land 1000u away

[indigo falcon]

making things take longer until you happen upon the right resource is, well, not adding difficulty I guess but adding grind or time

sometimes I'm ok with it, sometimes I'm impatient

[pine relic]

that's why launch auto-charger and other such technologies exist, I'm fine with the idea of earning convenience in the harder game modes

its not like I love the added fuel cost but I'm completely, its just 'whatever' for me

unmoved in either direction lol

[indigo falcon]

the launch autocharger is going to cost 10-fold the usual price however. so "earning convenience" is a much steeper slope

[pine relic]

it was WAY more bothersome in the days of plutonium... in the days of thamium 9 it was easily circumvented by going to moons and harvesting big patches of th9 flowers which nowadays are oxygen flowers, and it only became increasingly easier to keep it fueled since. Uranium just completely negates the issue.

[pine relic]

they were talking about the regular game modes tho, not the expedition :P

[indigo falcon]

oh, I was talking about the expedition, sorry

[pine relic]

like normal vs survival and such

I guess this was the users first experience of the harder difficulty settings

[indigo falcon]

in the regular game modes I feel like it's fine, eventually (without too much bother) you get equipped and spend more time grinding salvaged frigate modules instead of ship fuel 😛

[pine relic]

Yep, like I said, its such a non-issue that I'm completely indifferent to it one way or the other... that's only something you notice maybe in the first planet/system and quickly gets sorted out

its a bit different for the expedition, but that's why I spent the first 100k or so in two piles, one of uranium, and one of pyrite, so for the entire expedition the only fuel I had any scarcity of was warp fuel

[indigo falcon]

where oxygen is the big blocker for that

[pine relic]

yep

[indigo falcon]

I can almost see planning to just get the hypercore blueprint, and the cost be damned

[pine relic]

I think the first rv station had pilots that sold both uranium and pyrite so I got that sorted pretty early

[fervent patrol]

if someone transfers storm crystals to me, will the achievement still finish?

[indigo falcon]

gotta get some storm crystals anyways

no, you have to get them yourself

[fervent patrol]

darnsh

[pine relic]

nope, and looting 'em from other sources doesn't count either, it has to be from storm crystal formations on planets

[fervent patrol]

ight

[pine relic]

I had a bunch from hydrogen geodes and from derelict boxes and neither counted towards it

[indigo falcon]

welp off to bed yet again, safe hourneys everyone still running the expedition, and may you break the loop!

[remote thunder]

good night! sleep well!

[lusty slate]

Really hate how 100% hyperdrive doesn't get me to the next anchor without running out.

[pine relic]

yep, the path between 3 and 4 is particularly long if I recall

[vital solar]

for getting to the anchor points, is it more efficient to get a portal and glyphs and warp to the system or just spam warps with a hyperdrive?

[pine relic]

probably portal, if you already have the glyphs and all the crap needed to fuel the first one. If I recall one of the milestones unlocks all the glyphs, so its just a matter of fuel.

[vital solar]

got it

[royal slate]

was bored

[finite rover]

hah

[stark root]

Thanks so much game, for parking my ship sideways 🤣

[glacial mist]

Lol

Wish it would do that for me

[finite rover]

this has probably been done to death already but the optional milestones are tied to the loop research tiers? nothing to do but feed polo snacks every now and then?

[pine relic]

correct

[finite rover]

cool. I can move on with life, then. :)

[pine relic]

you're not gonna put a dent on it individually since its meant to be a community thing

[finite rover]

yeah but if no one does it it goes nowhere, sooo... :)

[stark root]

This is the hardest expedition that I've done.

[pine relic]

That's by design I believe :P

[stark root]

I did the sentinal pillar milestone earlier and thank god someone built a base next to it for people to hide in...if it wasn't for that, i would have died

[pine relic]

no such thing tho

[finite rover]

yeah that one would be nerve-wrecking.

[lusty slate]

Okay, in A3 with an 80% hyperdrive and enough warp cells to completely refill it at 0. This better get me a ways.

[pine relic]

the milestone is for shutting down sentinels which doesn't necessarily involve pillars :P

I did it by just murdering 5 wanted waves worth as usual

[finite rover]

is it really murder if it's sentinels?

is there a law against killing them?

[pine relic]

well, they're the ones that make up the laws, so probably.

[stark root]

I just shot all the things around the pillars and then killed a few sentinals and then sat back and waited for them to deactivate so i could shut them down.

[pine relic]

you don't need to do that tho

just going straight for the terminal works fine and draws no aggro

then after they're disabled you can shoot the three tower things for a bit of extra loot with no repercussions since sentinels are already disabled :P

[finite rover]

hmmm. do I want 5 nipnip buds.

[zealous nest]

<Initiating cargo scan>

[finite rover]

*hides them under the couch*

[boreal violet]

Hi all, is the whispering omelette needed for anything or just to sell? I ended up with 6

[pine relic]

Yes Officer, its for personal use.

[pine relic]

Not really needed, just a fun little reference to the milestone objective. :P

[whole linden]

How hard is Leviathan supposed to be?

[finite rover]

deeply annoying until you stop dying.

[boreal violet]

I fell off a cliff today a few hrs in.... rip

[pine relic]

Its in default settings of Survival Mode, but with the cost of everything multiplied by 10 to force you to acquire tech upgrades by the 'memory' mechanic rather than the usual means.

[whole linden]

Isn't it also the one that resets every time you die?

[pine relic]

Not everything resets (see pins) but yes.

[iron radish]

are storm crystals tradeable in this

[pine relic]

Its not particularly hard to do it with only the one death (and you should just die as soon as you can after spawning in to get it out of the way quickly, its needed for a milestone).

[pine relic]

Sure, but they won't count for the milestone.

[iron radish]

fuck

some bs

[boreal violet]

I noticed the memory items are random

[pine relic]

somewhat, yes.

[finite rover]

christ. I need deutirium.

[pine relic]

why? also its just hydrogen and tritium in a medium or large refiner. Usually a freighter refiner, since its unlocked from the start.

[finite rover]

cos I got damaged by @!$!!@#@! pirates.

[whole linden]

This will be interesting...

[finite rover]

still had my shields and even then it damages your stuff.

ffs.

[pine relic]

Do read the pins beforehand since it has a lot of useful information, and if you get stuck we'll be here. Being well prepared is the best way to avoid unnecessary deaths.

[pine relic]

Yeah, the chance of taking tech damage is greatly increased the lower your shields are, usually its pretty rare to take any tech damage if they're above the 50% mark.

having a stack of sodium on hand can be helpful to recharge mid-battle as needed

[finite rover]

I got the rarity bonus. :/

so missed out on my free freighter. meh.

[whole linden]

There are none of those spiky ball creatures that kill you very easily, right?

[pine relic]

you already start with your free freighter tho

[finite rover]

yeah i know. this one would've been bettererererer :)

[whole linden]

My last death in the game was to one of those (I think)

[pine relic]

I can't think of any deaths to ball creatures, spiky or otherwise...

or creatures in general really, tho attempting to melee giant dinosaurs does tend to go poorly

[whole linden]

I was fighting Sentinels and accidentally shot a ball creature and it started attacking me

I was doing well until the ball arrived

[pine relic]

lol

[whole linden]

(Note: this wasn't on the expedition, it was my normal save)

[finite rover]

Don't mess with balls.

[whole linden]

It's like it's covered in hitboxes

And it only uses melee attacks

[vital solar]

i got scared shitless by the biological horrors that spawned when i got to the end of the first phase

[finite rover]

yeah that was fun :)

[pine relic]

heh

[shy dagger]

Hey, gotta find a crashed freight, tho i dont know where, or wich map i gotta buy

[finite rover]

I just jumped on my ship and went "EEK! BIOLOGICAL HORRORS!"

[shy dagger]

Is it the emergency message map?

[vital otter]

Yes, found all 7 creatures on a planet, 1750 nanites! Last one was a rare underground one but as underground is safe to wander and you can stock up on oxygen and sodium figured it was worth the risk
now I just need to find my way out lol

[finite rover]

=)

[shy dagger]

Bruh, it wasnt , it gave me an observatory

[pine relic]

each type of chart can find multiple things. It will take 5 emergency charts at most to find a crashed freighter, provided you don't fly to any of the found locations to clear their icons.

[finite rover]

grumble. need solar panels.

[shy dagger]

Ack. Well... How do i find a crashed freight?

Cause i only had a map

[pine relic]

one of the milestones gives you the recipes for every craftable component. I think its the one for getting 500k units.

[finite rover]

oooh

i got that

ding!

thanks for that :)

[pine relic]

Buy 5 more emergency charts with navigation data. You can get the needed 5 navigation data by, for example, going to space stations (using the space station teleporter) and clicking on all the glowy geometric shapes and discs scattered about.

[shy dagger]

And how do i buy it

[pine relic]

Talk to the cartographer at any inhabited space station and choose the option to exchange maps. Its the stall closest to the teleporter.

[shy dagger]

Yeah but it doesent let me exchange 5 navigation data with a map

[pine relic]

yes it does

@shy dagger

[lusty slate]

Maaaan, good thing I located the exact grave location at A3 and then trekked back to my ship and parked right next to it before interacting. Titan worm right in my face.

[finite rover]

how rude

[lusty slate]

Right?

[shy dagger]

But its 1 map for 1 map

[pine relic]

Nope, you pay in navigation data, 1 data for each chart.

[ashen shore]

Completed everything but making friends with a predator… why can you never find them when you need them ?😩🤔

[digital thistle]

I saw earlier someone asked where to go for storm crystals - and someone had said to check... something or another -- can I get a little direction to these, too ?

[digital thistle]

There are aggressive predators on the second renedvous planet

[pine relic]

there's at least one predator type on the starter planet, see pins

[ashen shore]

Thanks!

[ashen shore]

Thank you.

[digital thistle]

Might need to run into them - the one I got from there has the side wing/fins

[shy dagger]

Uhhh, wait, the only way to get to the second anchor is to buy the engine?

[digital thistle]

No? o-o I don't think so

[ashen shore]

I recommend you check the teleport base list… there are often bases labeled storm crystals

[shy dagger]

It requires emeril engine

[digital thistle]

tyty ! will try this

[pine relic]

If you go for the starter planet one, here's a picture: #nms-expedition message

[pine relic]

yes

[shy dagger]

Is the indium one required too?

[pine relic]

you can sell packed tech you get from memories at space station mod vendors for 480 nanites each so it doesn't take too long to buy the blueprint, just farm some memories by trading in stuff to polo (which you need to do at least 5 times for a milestone anyway)

[pine relic]

nope

[shy dagger]

Yeye no worries i already had 6k

[ashen shore]

Thank you, that is very helpful.

[pine relic]

Yep, particularly since it is a predator that only attacks other creatures and not the player, so its harder to figure out its a predator at a glance :P

[finite rover]

sweet. weekend nexus mission where I get to feed fauna, collect ancestral memories and collect 15 wiring looms. :) I think I've got fauna feed missions as well which give me suit cargo expansions. :)

and if I want I can start a slaughter, too and get some missions done that way, also. whee!

[vital otter]

there's also a predator on Atti in the starter system that is only a predator to the other animals, it's a t-rex looking thing with a weird head

[lusty slate]

Polo just gave me a personal refiner, thank God.

[finite rover]

lucky!

[hexed oak]

Holy shiz, this expedition is auto-permadeath?

Really hope I don't run into fatal bugs

[pine relic]

not really permadeath, your save doesn't get deleted, and you get to keep some things - see pinned messages for details

[hexed oak]

Ok, cool. I was going by the in game message

[opaque crest]

Did I miss something very obvious? I keep looking through pins but haven't seen anything, I'm looking for a crashed freighter. Last milestone, don't know where to look necessarily

[warm coral]

I've been trying to use the distress signal charts

[pine relic]

I suppose you're just missing some general game knowledge, but don't feel bad, that's not unusual. You can locate specific types of points of interest using charts, which you can buy using navigation data at any inhabited space station from the cartographer, the npc in the stall closest to the teleporter. It costs 1 navigation data per chart and to be sure to find a crashed freighter you're gonna need 5 or so emergency charts.

[warm coral]

Hasn't really been working for me 😭

[pine relic]

You need to not clear the stuff it finds. Spam charts one after the other and it'll eventually go down the list of everything that chart type can find, without repeating. In this case, the emergency charts can find 5 different types of POI, so you need 5 charts tops.

[opaque crest]

Appreciate you

[warm coral]

Usually if I try that it just cuts me off after 2 or 3

[pine relic]

when it would repeat it instead gives an error without consuming the chart, so you may have to keep spamming the same chart for a bit until it finds a suitable thing that isn't marked yet.

[pine relic]

Also, its important to point out that the option to actually buy the type of chart you want, directly, is the one that says 'exchange'.

the more obvious option just gives you a random one, you don't want to do that

[warm coral]

It seems each space station gives you a certain chart every time for the random one

[opaque crest]

🤙🤙 can't remember the last time I used charts on my main save, thank you

[pine relic]

anyway, like I was saying, its not really cutting you off so much as giving an error because the type of thing the chart would mark, you have a marker for already. So if you keep spamming it, it will keep rolling the dice until you have found one of each type of thing the chart can find. In this case its crashed ships, pilots in need of repair (both marked as 'distress beacon' so you get two of that), abandoned buildings, observatories and crashed freighters. It may take a fair bit of spamming to get it all marked, particularly if you get to 4 out of 5 without finding a freighter (or whatever you're looking for), since it doesn't exclude the already found things from the roll table.

[royal slate]

is this expedition compatible with to live forever?

[pine relic]

no, that requires real permadeath

[royal slate]

since it seems its settings is item deletion upon death not save deletion

yeah

but im thinking it might work if you go through a galactic core BEFORE finishing the expedition?

[pine relic]

I mean, at least it wouldn't work before 4.0... no idea how that particular achievement works now that difficulty settings can be changed on the fly somewhat

[royal slate]

permadeath cant be selected after the game has started

[pine relic]

its not a difficult achievement tho

like, it clears even if you 'get there' via the story shortcut rather than the scenic route

so if you focus on the story you can get it done in a day or two, assuming you're only after the achievement itself

[shy dagger]

Is there an outlaw system next harbor 3?

Ancorz

[lusty slate]

I have an RL friend saying there's a mandatory space battle at some point. Is that true?

[pine relic]

there's one close to anchor 2 named tortuga. Teleport back to the anchor 2 system (name is in the pinned messages) and then open your discovery page, tortuga will be on your discovery list by proximity even without having visited it because its a player-discovered system, so you can set a waypoint to it from the discovery page and find it very easily.

[pine relic]

Depends on how you define 'mandatory'

you can flee if you want, the anomaly trick works for it... tho it is easier than your average pirate fight imo

[lusty slate]

I'm guessing it's the "anomaly deterioration" space battle I just used the anomaly to escape from then.

[pine relic]

||If it was three living ships then yes.|| Its only 'mandatory' in the sense that it triggers automatically but you don't have to actually fight if you don't want to risk it, you can run from it same as any of the other surprises.

[lusty slate]

||Does it just happen that once? I just finished everything at A4||

[pine relic]

Just the once, yep.

[vital otter]

Hmm, I need to make some money so I can get some wiring looms

[pine relic]

one of the milestones gives 10 looms, have you burned thru those already?

[vital otter]

Aha, no I haven’t used any looms yet
let me see which milestone it is and if I can do that yet

[twilit lintel]

Cant find storm crystal 💀

[pine relic]

I think it was in phase 2 somewhere.

[warm coral]

I got a boundary map finally, God I hope I can sneak up on them

Gonna get the minotaur ready just in case

[pine relic]

no need to sneak really, you can just go directly to the terminal by the pillar and disable them without aggroing anything, provided the planet itself isn't aggro sentinels

[warm coral]

Ah

Kewl

[vital otter]

Oh nice, it’s the nanite one which I got but haven’t claimed the reward yet, so now I have wiring looms!

[pine relic]

there you go :P easier than you thought

[vital otter]

Now to make it to anchor point one

[glacial mist]

You can also get wiring looms at trade terminals most days depends on if a player didn't empty it before you got there

[shy dagger]

Theres no Tortuga btw

[pine relic]

yes there is.

[shy dagger]

In the list i mean

Found it by hand

[lusty slate]

Cleared A4 and actually popped into my freighter for the first time lol. Taking a break here. Then I'll resupply and summon/equip the Minotaur before staring the Phase 5 stuff.

[pine relic]

practically done :P

[warm coral]

I might manage to do this on my first try lmao

I'm so stressed for no reason

[pine relic]

No need to be stressed, just gotta be cautious.

[lusty slate]

Well, gotta mop some stuff up after ||breaking the loop||. Crashed freighter, Sentinels, etc. But yeah.

[vital otter]

Ah, there’s ancient bones on anchor 1, time to dig some of those up and make some cash

[pine relic]

After you mop up the anchor point 5 + grave, you're practically done with the part where dying would be a problem. After you clear the scrambled milestones that you can't read yet, the whole semi-permadeath thing is over and you can die as much as you want.

[lusty slate]

Yeah, that's why I've been powering though the anchors. 🙂

[south dune]

Eager to get this done myself! Hopefully this weekend. Y’all may be hearing a lot of questions from me soon haha

[warm coral]

Wait so I could of just zoomed through the anchors 😄

I really

Gotta research more

[pine relic]

it is right there in the pins :P

[warm coral]

Pbfbfbbf

I don't read those

Only nerds read those

[lusty slate]

Always read the pins. I learned that quickly lol.

And yeah, 3 and 4 were a cakewalk compared to 2. Biggest problem was carefully scaling cliffs to reach the graves.

[pine relic]

in those cases I usually just fly to it after marking it with the visor

one of the early systems, rv1 I think, had pilots that sold pyrite and uranium so I just bought a bunch of that to not worry about launch / pulse fuel.

[lusty slate]

Yeah, I did that myself. Got the exact location and then summoned the ship and set it there. Then I just hopped in and yeeted away from whatever popped out.

[pine relic]

right but what I mean isn't summoning the ship, like if you switch your visor from the locator mode to the regular mode, you can just look for the atlas-shaped grave icon and mark it by holding E (on pc, not sure for switch) and then get back in the ship and fly directly to it instead of climbing and whatnot

[warm coral]

Honestly the hardest thing I have left is finding a predator

[pine relic]

starter system (name in the pins) and planet (name in the same pin) have one that isn't even aggro to the player

[warm coral]

Alright

I'll retrace my steps

[pine relic]

@warm coral #nms-expedition message this guy. You can just use a station teleporter to get back there when you wanna get it done.

[lusty slate]

Oh man, I had the worst sandworm jumpscare on A4 though. I wasn't in danger, it just completed blindsided me. Was scaling a mountain to the grave. Looked down and a sandworm's mouth was flying right at me. It whizzed past, but yiiiikes.

[warm coral]

That was what I was gonna do

Holy fuck it's an abomination

[pastel star]

the friends waiting for you after A4 was my jumpscare

[lusty slate]

I didn't see, I jumped into my ship too fast. A3 spawned a titan worm right in my face tho. Thank God I had my ship parked right next to the grave.

[pastel star]

hmm. i figured the events would be similar ones.

[ocean gorge]

Wow this is just such BS. Died to a planetary predator. You didn’t even keep your milestones. More stupidly difficult than this expedition ever needed to be. Taking a break

[pine relic]

||A4 is the space one||

[warm coral]

Alright

Final anchor

Jfc

[vital otter]

This expedition needs such a different play style from my usual one
like I’m glad to experience it but it’s not one I’m going to repeat
1st anchor point done and I’ve put a little base down, got some ancient bones so I have a little cash in hand now
only 4 more anchor points to go

[pine relic]

Well, for some perspective, that's more or less how I feel whenever an expedition makes me play in normal mode :P

[pastel star]

do you just sit there screaming from having to much inventory space?

[vital otter]

Ha, each to their own

[sinful aurora]

Does anyone have portal coordinates for the pinned worlds that have storm crystals

[pine relic]

the extra inventory space is one of the things that bothers me, because a stack of 9999 say, oxygen, is enough to play for a year without even having to think about life support. The extra time of hazard protection feels like it lasts for ages to me. So basically it takes out all survival mechanics, and I happen to like survival games. But I can empathize with the folks that just want a chill gaming experience.

[pastel star]

I get that, complacency since you dont HAVE to do anything other than the first initial farm, and that can kill interest. Its cool that we can both have a situation we like

[pine relic]

Yep, always a good thing when a game gives us the options to play it however we like best

[ashen shore]

Looks so sweet

So if I were to create another save file, just to help with the nexus mission it won’t effect it anything in a bad way?

[pine relic]

It should make no difference one way or another.

[ashen shore]

Sweet! Yeah I am stocked up on solar rays stuff. I just wanna get those S class memory fragments

[pine relic]

theoretically you wouldn't even be able to run into expedition mode players, but that may not be quite the case for this particular expedition

unless you mean another expedition save

[ashen shore]

I’ll just have to try.. boots game back up lol

[pine relic]

a non-expedition save would just get the normal polo dialogue

[ashen shore]

Yea that

[pine relic]

you can keep helping in that expedition save you already have tho

[ashen shore]

Yeah but if I die I lose everything

[pine relic]

nope

after you break the loop you can die as much as you want @ashen shore

[ashen shore]

What about in difficulty settings there still item loss upon death though

[pine relic]

easy enough to test, just keep some bit of carbon or whatever in your inventory and jump off a cliff

anything in ship / freighter / etc should be safe tho

[pine relic]

there we go, just tested it and you keep personal inventory too

[ashen shore]

Oh that’s what’s up

[pine relic]

the only thing is that some of my tech broke because instead of jumping off a cliff I pissed off some sentinels but other than that nothing lost

[warm coral]

I dids it :3

[finite rover]

finished?

[warm coral]

Well everything but the optional stuff

[finite rover]

yeah gotta wait for that. nice work, though. :)

[warm coral]

Now I eat chips and watch a show about a depressed horse

[finite rover]

hahaha

[warm coral]

I didn't die once I'm actually quite proud of myself

I expected that to be way harder

[finite rover]

well... you had to die at least once.

[warm coral]

Doesn't count

Heresy

[finite rover]

fair. :)

[warm coral]

Heretic

[finite rover]

hehe

[warm coral]

It didn't really make me fight anything

The only thing I had to worry about was falling through the map or being overconfident with my jetpack

[finite rover]

I can't help but do my own thing so... I died a bit so far. :)

[plucky bone]

what's the move tn gang

50 hours and I'm feeling a litle lost

[finite rover]

do ancestral memories remind anyone else of potato peels?

[fervent patrol]

honestly everyone keeps complaining about the permadeath

i just keep reloading

if im boutta die i quick reload

so far its worked pretty well

i just

had to reload a lot against some sentinels

[finite rover]

that sounds irritating :)

[hexed oak]

so i have to spend 2k nanites for emeril drive to get to the second anchor?

[scarlet ocean]

2k isn't that bad so.

But yes

Or you can just do some ship hunting, and hope it gives you the Emeril drive tech.

I personally never buy it on my non-expedition saves since ship hunting-salvaging is my main source of entertainment in NMS.

[vague hull]

What’s a good way to get nanites?

I need them to buy the drives to get to the second anchor point as well

[warm coral]

I got them by refining a bunch of salvaged data off of a safe planet

Not very efficient but it wasn't dangerous

There are better ways that aren't dangerous somewhere I'm sure

[vague hull]

Didn’t even think of that, thanks

[scarlet ocean]

You can also just sell the useless memories techs.

[hexed oak]

I wonder if it's worth trying to fight sentinels for nanites

[scarlet ocean]

Like, you are not going to go into water so oxygen redirection / water jets / S translator, those are all trash.

[hexed oak]

Yeah, I sold my one useless tech for 61 nanites, woo

[scarlet ocean]

If you get some salvaged glass, those can give you sentinel upgrades, you might be able to sell those for some Nanaties too.

[hexed oak]

Given how bullet spongy the ships are in this expedition, though, and how they keep breaking all my tech... Well, can't hurt to try

[finite rover]

I dare say having all your weapons break as you fight pirates is a tad irritating. :)

[scarlet ocean]

The Vesper sail gets damaged SO OFTEN AAA

[finite rover]

first thing to go EVERY time.

[scarlet ocean]

IKR?

[finite rover]

major grr

[scarlet ocean]

It's the 1 reason you drive Solars in the first place and man. It's a lot expensive to repair than other tech too.

[finite rover]

I think solar panels and something else annoying.

[scarlet ocean]

Wiring looms...

[vague hull]

Found some runaway mold I’ll refine

[finite rover]

yup. funfun.

[warm coral]

I've only had it happen once

Besides it's not hard to repair

Just wiring looms and something else

I always have wiring looms for obvious reasons

And since I typically play survival I instinctively get lotsa repair kits

[hexed oak]

Agreed. It broke well before I had the blueprints to repair it, lol

[finite rover]

easiest way to do the sentinel quest is to get a find the traveller nexus mission

easy safe kills

then you just hit 1 more and run. sorted.

[hexed oak]

traveller nexus mission?

[finite rover]

yeah. lost traveller. part of it is getting a part decrypted and there are corrupt senties guarding it. they seem... kinda stoned so easy to take on :)

[hexed oak]

haha, cool

stoned is easier for my sights for sure

[finite rover]

yeah. i'm not a good shot so was dreading that without the plasma spitter. sorted now.

ah. rescue stranded lifeform is the quest I think.

[warm coral]

I just deactivated the sentinel tower and it gave me both missions 🗿

[finite rover]

nice

did you kill any senties before?

[warm coral]

No

It just counts the ones that are disintegrated when the sentinels are deactivated

[ionic igloo]

It is such an unfitting theme over the holidays. Such a pitty. Im out!

[vital otter]

Anchor point 2 done, that was an intense planet
I’m done for the day now

[tidal hazel]

Is there an easier wyay to get the Emeril drive for Anchor point 2 than grinding out the 2000 nanites to research it? Seems to take longer to get the nanites with the restrictions on this one

[scarlet ocean]

You could go salvaging ships, they give you tech and the blueprint could be in one of them.

[tidal hazel]

Maybe nanites won't be so bad. I thought the memory fragments I got from Polo were from completing a milestone. Didn't realize he gives one every time I turn in one of the repeatable objectives. I just got 8 pieces of useless tech I can sell

Thanks though. I forgot I can get ship tech from wrecks

[hexed oak]

FFFFFFFFFFFFF i just spent the 2k nanites and got killed before i could get to the 2nd point

[fervent patrol]

farm it out, transfer to main with help of friend, hoard for collection purposes

[hexed oak]

tag teamed by 4 pirates with nowhere to hide, none of my shields or weapons had upgrades D:

You can't seem to run away from space combat anymore

[scarlet ocean]

You can summon the Anomaly and just go in.

[misty parrot]

Why am I still showing no active expeditions?

Should satart 12/22

[hexed oak]

Well, shiz, why didn't I think of that. Thanks

I don't know whether Switch gets the expeditions. It's a multiplayer feature, and Switch doesn't do multiplayer

[misty parrot]

Ah makes sense. Sad tho, this is the first one that looked fin

[wraith junco]

Wait wut? Switch players dont have expeditions?

[meager scroll]

They do, I member seeing people posting screens of exp 6 completion

[south dune]

they def do

[unreal gale]

the expedition has some sort of "checkpoints"? or once I did the first set of missions, I'm bound to redo everything from scrap if I die?

[meager scroll]

Pretty much most of your progress gets reset

There should be a pinned message about what gets reset and what stays after death

[wraith junco]

Check if your game is updated

[misty parrot]

I did. Switch doesn't have online yet, so I guess thats why

[wraith junco]

I got mixed signals. Freindly fire said that switch peeps where sending exp6 completion pics

Doy you onow how to start expedition? Create new save ,chose expedition mode

[south dune]

Switch people definitely have access to expedition redux - I had a convo here about the quicksilver difference a lil while ago, because switch players got a tonnn more from Blighted to compensate the lack of Nexus missions

[wraith junco]

Switch dont have multiplayer but you should have expeditions

[misty parrot]

Yeah I played the other two. ASomeone else sid there was some online element to this one

[wraith junco]

All expeditions have online element since all players start on same planet

For switch its just solo experiance

[meager scroll]

This expedition features optional milestones tied with community research

Players can do some tasks, that will progress the community research and unlock optional milestones

Those reward better class of Memory Fragments

[indigo falcon]

there is an online element, since you want a connection to ods to see other player bases, discoveries, and you need to connect to hg servers even to start the save. this is different from multiplayer however. (re: switch and expeditions)

[indigo falcon]

there are pins in here that explain a bit more about the mechanics of this expedition (see e.g. "persistence after death" pin)

tier 1: 78%. maybe it will roll over tomorrow sometime and new loopers will start with B class gear

[sinful aurora]

I dont understand how to do the optional milestones, any guidance?

[indigo falcon]

these are community milestones, like unlocking new quicksilver items at the anomaly, everyone contributes a tiny bit

[sinful aurora]

Oh okay, it's there any way I can contribute more or is it just finishing it?

[indigo falcon]

you can give items to Polo, there is some cutoff per day after which it doesn't contribute to the milestone but you still get whatever rewards Polo gives you (maybe it's 20 per day? )

that is I expect to stop dupers or whatever from just gaming the milestones and rolling them over for everyone in the first day

[sinful aurora]

Okay cool, thank you

[finite rover]

I swear HG should default run as walk and make a new run speed.

[indigo falcon]

suggest it to them

[finite rover]

I have a feeling that a year later I may be saying the same thing even if they did. maybe.

[indigo falcon]

lol

[misty parrot]

I'd even be ok with it being part of the exosuit upgrades

[finite rover]

yeah. that'd be a good way to implement it.

cos seriously, I run everywhere right now. :/

fauna hunting is a nice thing to do as your landing thrusters recharge

[finite rover]

I think I just completed half my quests with jelly fish. ALWAYS get the kill critters quests. Eventually, you'll complete them en-masse.

[hexed oak]

So the pin talks about reporting bases to get rid of them, but I still can't build a base around the anchor point after reporting all the available bases

Multiplayer turned off

[finite rover]

they may technically still be there.

[hexed oak]

Oh, I see. The way it was worded, it sounded like they would auto disappear for the reporting player

[finite rover]

they do in that you can use the landcape for most things you couldn't before. like regain access to quest bits but you can't unilaterally get rid of a base off of nms so they're still /there/.

[toxic mortar]

Ok, just checking, I only NEED to die once?

Cool. I hugged a spore pod.

[indigo falcon]

they do disappear for the reporting player, you should be able to do your own things. you can also save/exit/reload and see if that helps

tl;dr: die right away; do all of phase 1, visit thegraves in 2,3,4, do all of phase 5 and when offered a chance to break the loop, take it; optional milestones are done by the community, not by you alone; read the pins for much more. that is all 😛

[indigo falcon]

multiple people have been placing bases at these portals, precisely because those bases are not meant to be visible to other players (they should not impact others)... if reoprting them is not clearing the way for someone to drop their own bc, there's something awry, big surprise there though

[finite rover]

was thinking of what'd happen if they all upload. big clash, no?

[indigo falcon]

if they upload, the first uploader (I think) wins.

I don't guarantee that but I assume so

uploaded portal bases are not supposed to be visible to other players

that's the theory at any rate

[pine relic]

they're not, there's a fairly decent range in which anything built will not render/load at all for anyone other than the owner.

[indigo falcon]

which should mean that uploading one does nothing really

I mean, hg is not going to serve you the base structure via ods or anything

[pine relic]

not quite, it stops other people from claiming their own base within base computer range

so its basically just a dick move with no upside for the uploader

[indigo falcon]

see, that can't quite be right, because I 've put base computers down by expedition portals and I wasn't a first day person, seen many others do it too

[pine relic]

that sounds non-contradictory

as long as no one uploads you can have infinite bases claimed in the same area by infinite different players

after one of them uploads no new claims go thru

[indigo falcon]

I can 100% guarantee you that in the two days it took me to get to the 4th portal on that expd several someones would have uploaded.

and the upload would have gone out to ods too

not just several someones but hundreds of players would have tried it I am sure

hmm more than two days to be fair

more like 4-5 days

[pine relic]

I guess, but keep in mind that those uploaded bases will get pushed out after enough other bases get uploaded in the same planet, and also get moved to normal game mode after the user save converts...

so there's a constant rotation

[hexed oak]

Don't know what to say, the bases' territorial claims were blocking me from laying my own down even after reporting

But I managed to find a couple spots farther away

[indigo falcon]

save-exit-reload didn't help any?

[pine relic]

which is why having pins with 'teleport to base X' is always a temporary thing as they tend to rotate out fairly quickly during expeditions, as we've seen recently

[hexed oak]

Not completely. Fewer bases, but still some right on top

[indigo falcon]

visibility in the space teleporter list is one thing, the actual claims live in ods regardless, I believe

[hexed oak]

Maybe if I tried reloading enough

[indigo falcon]

don't worry about it now, you got the job done, that's the important thing

still some bases right on top --> this says that multiple people were able to place and have them visible (how does that happen)... ah ods, when will you not be broken. never

[hexed oak]

Not visible, but I could see the markers

[pine relic]

I'm not so sure, based on my experience from exobiology... I went to one of the bases that I had contributed actual coordinates to that 'find the abyssal horror' milestone a couple days later and the base itself was entirely gone (probably from an auto-converted save)

gotta keep in mind that one of the uploaded bases rule is that each player can only have one uplodaded base per planet regardless of game mode so when the save converts to normal, that base is now a normal mode base, and supercedes the 'expedition' copy of itself on the same planet

[hexed oak]

:mind fireworks gif:

[indigo falcon]

oh if the base converted to normal mode, then in the good old days when normal mode bases and expd bases were separate, that would definitely be true, but autoconvert doesn't seem to be a thing on this expd (optional milestones) and.... I can see expd bases on creative mode for example. hm maybe I'll put a base somewhere not obnoxious, upload, and see if the reverse is true tomorrow, ask someone to check 😛

[pine relic]

granted that's not gonna help for this particular expedition due to the optional milestones

[indigo falcon]

let's see, where's a good world to find a sentinel pillar and put a base

[pine relic]

starter system would be the most convenient for someone else to go help with testing I suppose

or any of the rvs I guess

[indigo falcon]

Olger Alpha has aggro sentinels so I guess that would be the handiest if it sticks

anchor 2

hm I found one there yesterday when I was messing around but didn't mark it, meh. welp. back to do it again

[pine relic]

but you're right that if indeed this expedition isn't quite behaving like expedition mode because they overlooked something when setting it as survival difficulty that would make the uploaded bases quite a bit more permanent

[indigo falcon]

sure would

[pine relic]

especially since they mashed together creative-to-survival as far as crossplay is concerned...

[indigo falcon]

uh huh

I'll go check one of the bases I saw later (went to visit a fair number, it was entertaining)

[meager scroll]

Creative mode is also in this shared pool?

[pine relic]

I'm still not sure how I feel about that, seems like a weird change even tho luckily it didn't affect me in the slightest as a permadeath-only player

[indigo falcon]

creative, relaxed, normal, survival and custom all play together

perma is in its own group and

in theory expedition is too

I think it's fine to all be together

if it's easier (or harder) for someone else to get resources or do whatever, doesn't bother me in the slightests

[finite rover]

wee. I can finally survive for 4 mnutes on a radiactive planet

[toxic mortar]

So there are more resource limitations this expedition? Can only carry 500 of each resource?

[wraith junco]

Yep

[indigo falcon]

survival mode-ish

[toxic mortar]

Ah. :/

[pine relic]

Sure... I mean in practice it doesn't change anything since dupers and save editing people handing out stacks of ai valves was always a thing across the board

[wraith junco]

And 1k on ship

[indigo falcon]

exactly, and if you wanted to avoid that you just don't take the resources (or discard them once given), nbd

[pine relic]

but I still think its weird that infinite free resources from creative mode can now just make its way into the survival mode anomaly with fewer hoops to jump thru

[indigo falcon]

a survival mode player can just dup/save edit their own stuff too. it's about the player's own constraints, always has been

[pine relic]

I dunno, I kinda liked the idea of each mode having its own isolated 'economy' so to speak

[finite rover]

w00t! I FINALLY get envoy gifts and it lands me a hyperwarp core.

[toxic mortar]

It just surprised me that I had so many cobalt stacks suddenly.

[indigo falcon]

I'm an inclusionist, I want a big all-encompassing community 😄

[finite rover]

me too! include permadeaths! :)

[pine relic]

see, that would piss me off a bit more :P

[finite rover]

then you'd become Blissless

[pine relic]

not really enough to be angry but I'd be a bit annoyed at having wasted so much time building my public farms on permadeath, for permadeath players, and all that effort becoming essentially wasted because I could have just as easily done it in creative

quite a bit more easily actually

[indigo falcon]

eh you know what went into it, that's what counts (well that's how I look at it, as far as for example bases and such)

[atomic laurel]

Oh I didn't know expeditions were limited time stuff

So if I want the space whale I need to complete it by..January 3rd?

[indigo falcon]

they are. 12 days left!

[pine relic]

yes

[atomic laurel]

Crap

How long is this thing

[indigo falcon]

the dates and times are in the pins, you can check at any time for a reminder (they show your local time)

[pine relic]

I didn't double check the date but I'll assume you're right

[indigo falcon]

2 weeks total, started 2 days ago

[pine relic]

took me 4h08m to finish

as always your mileage may vary

[finite rover]

it took me twice as long to die 4 times. YMMV. :)

[indigo falcon]

(you should note that you are an experienced player used to playing on perma)

[wraith junco]

8-12h i good range imo.

[pine relic]

Sure, but its not like I can unlearn the game to see how much time I'd take if I weren't :P

[vital otter]

ha yes I'm probably about 1/2 way through after 8ish hours, but I've been taking it slow and steady

[indigo falcon]

no, just that another player can judge better the time if they know your time and experience

[pine relic]

I didn't see enough self-reported times from other users to get a 'normal player' average, most people have just posted the 'I finished, woohoo' thing without mentioning how long it took them...

[indigo falcon]

yep, I don't have a sense of it either

[golden condor]

Well I’m an average player and I’m new to permadeath but i play on the safe side even in normal mode. Which means survival at all times. And it took me 13 hours to finish this expedition.

[pine relic]

real time or played?

[indigo falcon]

any deaths beyond the required ones?

[vital otter]

I think it depends on your playstyle and how much you think you need to do vs optimisation

[golden condor]

Played. It took me two days to get that 13 hours and it’s on my holidays

[pine relic]

Alright

[meager scroll]

Original run took me a little over 9 hours

Dunno how much stuff was left out for redux

[pine relic]

still, not that long, I think most people used to the game should be in the 8-9h range

[finite rover]

typically expos take me 15-20 hours but I muck about a lot.

[atomic laurel]

It looks like it's basically a series of dying while making milestones along the way, each death opening things up along the way

[meager scroll]

I guess it should be possible to do it 4-5 no problem

[indigo falcon]

some milestones were shortened, none were removed. fewer sentinels, storm crystals to deal with

[atomic laurel]

My damn power went out

[golden condor]

Four deaths. One on the third traveler site. ThingsThings scared the crap out of me

[indigo falcon]

tl;dr: die right away; do all of phase 1, visit thegraves in 2,3,4, do all of phase 5 and when offered a chance to break the loop, take it; optional milestones are done by the community, not by you alone; read the pins for much more. that is all

[atomic laurel]

Yeah I'm looking at a guide really

[indigo falcon]

great

[atomic laurel]

But I'm gonna do this with my partner

[golden condor]

I literally had my freighter hang around me everywhere i went. Cuz i had to dump the extra stuff in storage on freighter so that i don’t have to farm again and again

[atomic laurel]

Im only skimming it a tad though because I want to mostly figure it ojt

It's just I will not skip having a space whale

By no means will I under any circumstances not acquire a space whale

[pine relic]

keep in mind that guides for the original expedition will not be helpful, other than in terms of 'general' advice rather than specific locations and such, so keep in mind when the guide you're following was posted...

we always get a few 'I can't find planet X' people here that are following youtube videos from the original run

[atomic laurel]

That's all generated I would've thought

And you gotta follow the game's navigation

[indigo falcon]

hello games devs decide on a particular route and pre-discover the planets and systems ahead of time

[finite rover]

where the snot do I get an emeril drive from?

[indigo falcon]

buy it at inflated prices

[pine relic]

it is, but its also also persistent and consistent for every player. If you go back to the same coordinates on the same planet that I found, say, a sentinel pillar, there's gonna be a sentinel pillar for you there as well.

[finite rover]

that's the in-expedition solution? nothing from rewards?

[indigo falcon]

no rewards give it

[pine relic]

nothing from rewards

[indigo falcon]

sell off some memory fragments you don't need, to get it

[finite rover]

well. good thing all that fauna hunting wasn't a waste of time.

[indigo falcon]

I mean to get the nanites

[pine relic]

I suppose some memory might be able to unpack into it, but... that's gonna take way longer than just buying the stuff regardless of inflation

[finite rover]

back to the ball I go.

[indigo falcon]

ok, back at the base I was at yesterday, shutting off sentinels, then I'll see if I can find another pillar around

[pine relic]

wouldn't it be easier to just kill sentinels until you get a pillar marked?

[vital otter]

finding all fauna on a planet gives good nanite bonuses, there's a few on the route that have only 1 fauna which is 250 nanites

[finite rover]

will I need the indium?

[pine relic]

drive? not for the expedition itself

[indigo falcon]

I got a map already but meh

[finite rover]

sweet. thanks.

[indigo falcon]

rather just look around, excuse to see the sights some more

so normally bases have a mode marker by them now right?

these have none. I wonder.... heh

oh, no there is the marker, on the base computer only

[pine relic]

I suppose it could potentially be useful if it happens to make the route between anchor points shorter somewhere, but I didn't install it and managed to get to every anchor point no problem... the whole journey does take quite a bit of warp fuel tho

[indigo falcon]

so it's correctly identified as expedition but visible to me right now 😄

[pine relic]

yeah I guess HG slipped up a bit there with the 4.0 changes lol

[finite rover]

no worries. I'll see how it goes. freighter has a warp drive so I can always use that if need be but I like the suit storage upgrades you can get from the stations so...

[meager scroll]

tries their damned hardest not to complain about Waypoint UI changes in yet another channel

[indigo falcon]

lolol

[pine relic]

you may find this interesting, since we were talking about portals hiding bases and such, but in one experiment a few months back, some PD user did a large base around the 'graves' planet for starbirth, and parts of the base (which were outside of the 'anti-griefing bubble' around portals) still rendered. The base computer itself which was inside the bubble, did not. The 'visible' parts of the base were still there when I did starbirth again in my latest save.

[finite rover]

can't remember. if I exchange multitools does the tech travel?

[indigo falcon]

that's hilarious and also rude that they didn't remove it later 😛

package up your tech first, put in suit, then do the trade

[pine relic]

Not automatically but you can pack up most of it to move to the new one.

[finite rover]

ta

which tech was it that gave out cadmium on dismantling?

[pine relic]

I think they intended it as a community service thing. Like the portal was in a valley surrounded by hills so they had a little staircase going to the landing pad area and stuff, but the whole staircase path was eaten by the anti-griefing bubble and just the building on top of the hill remained

[meager scroll]

Pulse Drive upgrades IIRC

[finite rover]

ta