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does anyone know what time the expedition tomorrow will start being available? is it just "midnight local time"?
last ones started at 2pm UTC
thank you!
There's an expedition starting tmw? Which
Expedition 3 - Cartographers.

Oh neat
so on expedition 3 you do it mostly on the same planet?
Yes. Unless they change it for the redux.
You only had that and one rendezvous, which was only one other planet.
multi-planet
8 minutes to go
Weeeee
I'mma getting the family back home today, so I'll probably will only play it for an hour or so. Still looking forward to it!
Yeah! And nice to have the family back 😄
the expedition is out now
Yep!
there are two rendezvous
Interesting
What are the changes?
hmm i'm getting the expedition complete 😦
Are you using a new save for the expedition?
advice given in -help should have fixed it, got no confirmation reply
any way to cheese the ship upgrades?
@kindred kestrel just two? There were 5 in expeditions 1 & 2!
no just 2 in expedition 3
This one is a bit different, you will be on the same planet for awhile
Should i use my s upgrades on the stock c class multitool rn I'm this expedition?
I mean, without my ship i can't really go find a better one
Up
If you don't plan on using the save after the end of the expedition, I'd say don't even bother
I would suggest playing the game you're in, rather than worry about if it makes sense for the future. In other words, yes, go ahead and use them. You can buy more later (and upgrade the MT) if you decide to continue the save. Sounds like you need to make the most of what you have with you in this Expedition.
I mean, you start with an exotic ship
You get some good rewards along the way
So I reckon some folks would like to continue this save after expedition ends
That's kinda the point of expeditions in the 1st place
Being a faster tutorial, offering good rewards
Yup, that's the point of this expedition
You need a bit of know-how to get the materials you need
Eg. amonia can be refied into ferrite dust
By looting Buried Chests you can get scrap items, you can break them down into materials like Rusted Metal
And refine those
Buried Mineral Formations are a great source of higher tier items
Including Herox, which is needed to repair some part of the ship
What's the bot command that lists the latest expedition missions?
!exptime
enable Link Preview to see info 
Expedition 3 - Cartographers ends January 4 (2pm UTC) in 1 week 5 days 18 hours
Must start new save at least one day before each expedition ends.



Remaining Revisited Expeditions...
Expedition 4 - Emergence
Jan 5 - Jan 19 (2pm UTC)



Completed Revisited Expeditions
Expedition 1 - Pioneers Ended
Ran: Nov 24 - Dec 7 (2pm UTC)
Expedition 2 - Beachhead Ended
Ran: Dec 8 - Dec 21 (2pm UTC)
Would using expedition save keep my exosuit unlocks and/or atlas progress?
Took me a bit to figure that one out, since it's not something I ever did lol
Yes, all the progress made in expedition carries over when the save becomes Normal mode
@velvet crater ^^^
So atlas progress and base unlocks and stuff are independent of which save you use?
No
IIRC only quicksilver unlocks, expedition rewards and player titles / banners are cross save
And maybe twitch drop rewards but I never did those so I can't really tell
I found a planet with a couple of the humming sacs
with the pearls
if u need units
i forgot the name
is it normal for the minotaur to handle so poorly? 😒
i see some people complaining like 2 years ago
Yeah, those too
Trying the new expedition and there's almost no ferrite anywhere, is this expected?
I've tried restarting this expedition (3) and get the same ship every time.
Anyone else try this?
I think that is intended
Damn. That's weak. I see other people with different ships.
Last time Exp 3 was on it was random every time.
The one I got is my least favourite.
actualy, the same ship/startinglocation also happened on last exp3, unknown what exactly triggers a re-roll there. maybe using a different save slot (instead of "meh, delete, retry" in same slot) helps.
do we have a text version of the exp3r milestones yet?
Do y'all prefer to play expeditions with multiplayer on or off? A friend told me they are better with it turned off
does anyone have a problem with not being able to get out of their minotaur
Damn this acid storm is thiccc
@devout hemlock actualy not just MP off, but ODS off too, which means pretty much playing offline. (there is no ingame setting to disable the base/beacon/settlement/commsball spam)
Not true. I was able to reload and get different results in previous Exp3.
Different saves make no difference this time. I tried.
You may be thinking of exp 1 and 2, I as well don't remember the ships being rolled
eff ferrite. eff cooper
i personally had mixed results on that with original exp3. i did get different starts/ships at first, but after one of the panicky bugfix updates, that stopped.
so either a mechanic/trigger we dont understand, or they changed it.
This was my first expedition and I did it in under 6 hours! Had a blast
What's ods
online discovery service
(the central part of NMS that is actualy hosted by HG on azure instead by your platform provider)
Why did someone says there's no ferrite dust? There's tons of it
Them's fighting words
So far this is much easier than the last expedition
1.5h wandering around trying to find the last two minerals to scan before giving up for now 😦
Can’t fix my engines without that recipe
herox? either get lucky with glowing minerals, or use a refiner.
No, I mean, scanning minerals for the Geology expedition goal
did u try underwater?
I haven’t found any water anywhere near me; after wandering around for 30 minutes I ended up building a rover platform to move a bit faster but still haven’t
Almost an hour in the rover with occasional stops to scan for stuff and no luck
I’ll focus on trying to find water, I guess
Was just a suggestion. I'm not there yet and I think i've found 3 minerals but i havent been in water yet :/
anyone have a location for the hills are alive one? i cant find one with a 1325 elevation
😦
1325 u ?!
Exp 3 was quite hard actually! 😲
Did phases 1 to 4 tonight but had to glitch a few things (herox, ionised cobalt, cristals...)
Just to gain some time as I just do it for the rewards
But it was pretty cool to be on foot for a few hours, i rediscovered the game
Now two weeks before exp 4! 😴
sad i missed exp 1
You can glitch golden vector if you miss it too much
interesting...
Will EXP 1 be doable again?
prob only HG knows at this point 
lol
having the same issue now lol]
what does the first rendezvous look like
Damn. At this point I
I'd be willing to give some Activitaed Iridium from my main for some Magnetic Resonators on this expidition
Just buy them
I feel like I started in such a bad place. No minerals anywhere to get even basic Ferrite Dust, just plants, and I can't find water to be able to launch
buy them from?
Cant go anywhere ship wont take off
need the magnetic resonators to get anywhere to buy something
Hm, I may have lucked into finding a settlement nearby
Then it was just a matter of collecting enough STorm Crystals to have money
Oh for sure, if you ahve Crystal Sulphide
You can do that stuff across the planet? Don't need t obe nearby?
Can you not travel across the planet yet?
No, I need the Sulphide to repair the other thing
how ironic
Gotta repair both the Launch Thruster and the Pulse Engine to fly
I have the sulphide but need the resonator
For the Sulphide go into water and look for volcano things
Yeah, I haven't seen the hint of water anywhere
The most annoying thing is I can't make so much stuff cause I can't find ferrite for Metal Plates
all the minerals I find are big ones, for Pure Ferrite
i had a similar issue
Whelp. I need an expidition rescue. Anyone wants to help me out its just a magnetic resonator
I cant find these last 2 minerals
@plain pivot ammonia turns into ferrite, or rusted metal in containers and buried rock formations
O_o ... is the 1325u for hills-are-alive just a broken description? that was 625u in the first exp3, so 325u for exp3r would make a lot more sense than 1325?!
I can't seem to find water either. Went in all directions.
Not to mention minerals to scan
Same problem here
I feel silly and I need a sanity check. I'm doing expedition.
How find locations? I use Minotaur scanner and planetary data and I get stuff that is absurdly far away.
The signal booster deployable is helpful, but if it tags something useless, I'm stuck with it.
how do i do the stupid mountain climbing one
i finished repairs to the ship then did those
I gave up on minerals but found water after climbing high up.
I just kept using the Signal Booster until it gave me a Settlement and just bought the magnetic resonators
i just crafted them
How did you get the recipe? I didn't find all the minerals. Looks everywhere, best I got was 5 of 8
analyse 8 minerals
i then used a extractor to get ammonia, convert to ferrite
unlocked herox
How'd you get your hands on uh... magnetic resonators?
crafting
(He said he crafted them)
underwater has the other 3 @inner hedge
I meant how did you get the recipe for them
analyse 8 minerals
HOW DID YOU FIND 8 MINERALS
rocks
some are underwater
She? He? Ash.
this planet has 4 biomes
forest, rocky, oceanic, large forest
Tree rock water
I've looked in water, found only 1 mineral.
They could have made this a bit easier, give us some leeway, like 10 or something. Geez.
There's a lot of QoL that's missing in this game which would make this expedition more sane.
Right now it seems like it's easier or harder depending where you start.
Like scanning for locations needs a revamp, wow. Need some kind of mapping system for planets, at least to see what biomes are where. Aimlessly wandering in hope is... not really great.
yeah >:c
iirc, the mineral milestone doesnt have to be done on the starting planet
I can't get off the planet without the recipe the mineral milestone provides, unless I get lucky and find another factory
which recipe?
magnetic resonators
if you find a minor settlement or a galactic trade terminal, they might have some
specifically the lone trade terminal point of interest
alas, finding specific things in reasonable walking distance is .... unlikely
youve gotten the cave rocks already?
I actually had a GTT right at my ship spawn.
I've been in several caves and scanned everything I can
i can bring some
It's cool I've found the other biomes so I'm just gonna keep searching. I'd feel even more meh if I just caved this far. :3
i havent spent much time on this expeditions planet yet (i did the origiinal exp 3 a bunch though).
Definitely scan water areas multiple times. Some of those minerals are really well hidden
Yeah I believe it. I'm on my third pass of this area
At least I know what the forest biome mineral looks like. I restarted my exped save once for reasons.
oh ya chech caves
I've been in a dozen caves, under water a few times (not mentioning I had to look for water, that took way too long than it needed)
Still 5/8
been on the surface?
I've been up and down mountains valleys, name it, when looking for water.
i found some on those floating islands
Well I already scanned them apparently
I'm in underwater caves lol
Usually I try not to affect ecosystems much, but I've been minotaur boar ripping this cave apart to make way because I am so fed up with this xD
how do i do the mountain one?
ascend a mountain, when you're high enough, it'll click
I got that one when looking for water, didn't even know a out it
I think the point we are trying to make is that so far this expedition needs a rework. I mean if you have to find a settlement to buy resonators because you can't find the exact 8 minerals, then it's broken IMO. If it was made properly, it should be so hard to do.
@ionic gazelle
I was surrounded by mountains. I guess you landed in a flat area lol
-51.18, -148.31
Been through a cave again, got everything. Still haven't found the mineral I saw before :V
do i do a freighter for the larval cores?
Find a building with tentacles/whispering eggs
?
Abandoned buildings
where on them?
Eggs outside. Attack the eggs to release the cores, grab them and run like hell.
gottem
finished in 5 hours
How in the hell am I supposed to get water related items for my ship when I am nowhere near water… same for hiding in a abandoned building
The nearest village is 7 hours away
The only water I found so far was a very shallow bit at the bottom of a cave that only had two plants in it lol
Can anyone tell me what exocraft would actually be most useful in this terrain? I've never used any really. Been using the minotaur and I fuckin hate it quite frankly. It handles like a dead hippo on ice
Quite possibly the worst mech I've ever had to use in any game
24min away
I farmed Factories and unlocked the recipe early. Then got the remaining mi eral scans on another planet
or complete geologist
An earlier milestone gave factory overrides. That helped speed it up.
You're missing the point./half the conversation
Scroll up
yes, i know that players have been having trouble with mineral scanning.
we had the same thing happen with original exp3.
Geologist was already brought up. With a giant screenshot
that doesn't mean it's impossible
This is what I should have done, and what I actually just recommended in another channel lol
about to finish expedition
If someone DMs me a joke that makes me laugh I'll drop all the usefull loot i have on em
Alrightty... goes to someone random on starter planet then lol
Uhm.. anyone else had problem finding ferrite dust in the start?
buried caches can be a good source of stellar metals
remember that cargo drops often have rusted metal covering the lock, and rusted metal refines to dust
Also remember that once you have access to a medium refiner, you can use oxygen to 'rust' ferrite to make more of it
THis expedition requires more of me than previous ones. The poison atmosphere (and NO AMMONIA) makes hikes slightly more dangerous and where I landed, very scarce with minerals. I had to scrounge for Rusted Metal to get enough Ferrite Dust to eventually make Magnetized Ferrite and such. Now, at least, I have the advanced Mining Laser, because of course, there are at least some "big boulders" around.
Also, 1 fauna left in the milestone and all of the undiscovered ones are "underground" SMH.
Seems like I was doing something right to dig for stuff.
Instead of relying on ammonia, another option is buying batteries from trade terminals
Granted, a settlement may be difficult to find immediately, but just wanted to give some food for thought
found a ton of this mineral on top of a mountain.
Oh, buying batteries.
RIght. The Floating Rock above my settlement. Worth trying to get to? It's like a floating island in the sky.
those are found on top of stuff like this as well
if you haven't completed geologist yet, yes
Thanks. completed geologist
Ah, Sweet. But my jetpack has fuel like a half-blown balloon.
use terrain manip creation tool
I build a bridge?
sorta yeah, or steps, so you can wait for jetpack to recharge
A stairway to heaven?
eheh, well, yeah 😄
I'mma put it on as I build it
Does NMS have "Air guitar" gestures yet? Like You know Bill & Ted?
nope
sweet water
Did anyone simply bought a starship somewhere during the expedition, before finishing to repair the exotic?
easy rocketman
I had ammonia nearby but I still found it irritating. There's a lot wrong with this one. Too much reliance on good rng for starting location
Doesn't let you, I tried 😩
I skipped rock scanning and focused on finding a small settlement and bought the magnetic resonators instead.
Fudge me if I could be bothered to find 2 left. Needle in a haystack.
Yeah, to good to be true
I refined everything lol
On top of the mountain
There are the last rocks
I went on mountains and found nothing new.
:/
Anyhow, I finally launched the ship. Just took a few hours too many
Game changer in the exp was building the large refiner, galactic trade hub and the oxygen harvester
Lmao... I'm just wondering, you know all those stranded lifeform missions? All those ships flying above our heads, NO ONE WILLING TO HELP
Yeah it's easier to unlock those rather than do the tasks.
I unlocked the mineral harvester in the construction thing. Easier than mineral scanning.
At least we get two weeks to do it.
If you do some refining you'll get very fast though it
I just wish I found a copper deposit... Found an S CLASS FAECIUM instead. That's ridiculous
That's some high quality 💩 there.
Best shit hole ever found
Well, fullest anyways.
Remember gold+silver+copper to get the most chromatic Metal out of the few copper we got
Sorry for this really unfancy pic
Storm flare?
I really wish that wouldn't affect the visuals when you were inside.
Exactly... I built my base on a settlement
Effortless
Under the shelter there's good lightning, solved lightning problems
Huh, I have tons of copper deposits
I mean, the ones you use industrial extractor with
Thing pissing me off is I hav the formula for herox in the catalog, and I have the elements to make it, but it won't let me make it because I haven't found the formula 
I tried it won't let me
Ridiculous, tried reloading?
Ye
:(
Use Buried Mineral Formations
They can break into a number of resources, including Herox
No need to learn the recipe / refine
Copper was not a problem, plenty of deposits where I was.
Idk, i hated to go around and search for depots
I had many ammonia and copper deposits very close by. And as I walked to do other tasks I would pick up more I came across.
Yeah still haven't found any in those
Me whenever I find a geode
Actually I just say this in my head
What about if we renamed this expedition, instead of "the cartographer" a more suitable "THE BROKEN GEK"
Honestly, I like the expedition and how it makes you think how to refine, etc. But honestly, that mineral scan is BS. Everything else can be done without too much effort. That said, it really depends where you start.
how do I get crystal sulphide in the exp, there's no water on the starting planet and i need it for my starship
there is water on the starter planet in the western and southern hemispheres
There is, just not everywhere.
I had to walk a long way to find any.
lol i feel so sorry for y'all
the beachhead expedition was much more fun than this
because this is basically one planet until phase 5
and the planet always storms and doesn't have many resources
🏂
Glowing Minerals will drop them occasionally. You can get glowing minerals from Buried Mineral Deposits and Floating Crystals.
oh, i didn't know that, thanks
Took me a bit of walking to find water. Read, "puddles".
I managed to find the sulphide vents hiding in some submerged cave structures.
But yeah, so far, the mineral scans are the worst. I thought when I started that this starter planet was less 💩 than the last starter planet for Ex3. Nope! It's just as 💩, just for different reasons.
Oh sweet mother of God I found a trade terminal. But of course I left my most valuable selling items at my base on the opposite side of the map
Mark that shit with a save beacon or base computer or whatever
Uhhhh so I finished installing one upgrade in the minotaur and now it's refusing to move unless I finish installing a different upgrade as well. But it moved fine before. Is this a bug
This is some bullshit wtf
My minotaur just out of commission for no reason
I had that same mod on it but not fully installed before and it didn't affect anything
Is it the fuel economy one?
Yes
I've had problems with that one on all of the exocraft. It seems like if the game finds that before it finds the main engine module, it reads the economy upgrade's fuel level instead of the engine's.
I don't know if they're ever going to fix it, so unfortunately it's best to just always keep the engine core mod in the top left slot.
Man that's some bs
Yup.
If I move the engine core mod to top left will it work again?
It should.
If you consider the mod slots to be like a long tape, it just needs to find the engine first.
On the plus side I randomly found crystal sulphide in a buried mineral formation
Anyone got the coords for that 1325 mountain base?
Why do sentinels get so butthurt about sac venom
If you're trying to get the Rocketman milestone or whatever it is called
You can also build a base with a wall and a ceiling
And jetpack into that
Lore
You have to be airborne for some time, not fall the height
??
I think they just ain't want you to have money. Tryin to keep the lower class down
No they’re a ||sub protocol of that atlas to maintain and preserve its creation and disruption thereof from interjecting species||
Oh wait does the rerun have the Rocketman milestone
Or is it just the climb mountain one
Ok are there no minerals on the exp 3 planet? I cant find any ferrite dust to craft metal plates.
Hello?
It still don't work
What's your username in game i can bring you some rn
You have to refine it all
Keep all the rusted metal from containers
Refine pure ferrite with oxygen and then refine the rusted metal
Refine ammonia
Now imagine if a random jock claimed a base on the 2nd rendezvous so now one can set commstats anymore
I found some sick little humor in the ferrite rock that I did actually find.
It also provided faecium. 💩
I had that happen for my roamer once I installed the upgrade that is supposed to recharge. For the minimal cost of carbon it's not really a big loss but it should be fixed.
If you have ammonia deposits, use that with the refiner
if you don't have ammonia deposits, rusted metal covering cargo drop locks also refines to dust
another easy cheese for this one is dig a tunnel, go in, jetpack against tunnel ceiling
I'll gonna refine some Herox and distribute it to broken geks
is anyone else having problems with finding crystal sulphuride? i keep finding water that's way too shallow to spawn anything. i'm in the middle of a mountain area, and i travelled for like an hour, to look for some deeper lakes, but still no luck
i thought it would be smart to go to a trading station, and just buy a ship, but the game prevents you from buying any ships
Keep trying, it's rare
@winter obsidian look for buried mineral formations; those drop glowing crystals; glowing crystals can drop sulphide
ohhhh, that's good, i didn't think of that. thank you 
i was reminded of the same earlier by roar
i thought about refining for some crystal sulphide, but unfortunately there's no way to do that
yep, no refiner recipe for that
but thanks for the advice, that's actually a really smart way to get around it
After the headache of the mineral scanning I will happily cheese
yh, why are the minerals so rare
usually i'm annoyed by how many minerals are, whenever i scan a new planet
but this one barely has any
Scroll up and you will find lots of suggestions to get around that.
But yes, minerals are hard to find, frustratingly so.
This expedition has an obsession with using the refiners. You'll see 😂
Which is not all bad, but my goodness, that mineral scanning nearly broke me.
I will have to try this 🧀!
Worked great for me
Why am I being forced to use ammonia deposits? Each one gives me like 20 ammonia. I need way more ferrite dust than that. Not really a big fan of the way HG structured this expedition.
Join the club. I didn't like it and many other will say the same.
Depending qhere you land, ammonia deposits could be far away. I was lucky there were many nearby
Well I suppose I can always use the save editor. I truly hate it when games add lots of grinding. Who has fun doing the same task over and over for 4 hours.
Change the terrain manipulator to the smallest setting
Youll get like 400 per deposit that way
The largest setting is very inefficient
The things you find out even after hundreds of hours lol
Locating a Specific Resource
[Link to guide »](#nms-questions message)
Shared by: @quick herald
I mean I knew about changing the size to create, didn't know it affected collecting
The only real exception to this is gathering silicate powder for building.
In those cases, use the flatten setting since efficiency doesnt really matter as much as speed
what's the base building parts that use powder?
Stone
hmm.. yeah, those aren't unlocked by default
If that suddenly changed, im going to backflip
Oh right, i just meant it as a general tip
i was thinking about - yeah 😄 no worries no worries
I did not know this. I'll have to try it!
Omfg I just found 2 herox in buried mineral formation
See you in hell acid planet
lol
Can confirm. I did this on an ammonia deposit and walked away with over 1.2k.
Granted, I had to refuel the terrain manipulator 3 times. 😆
With your scanner, when you're on the right planet.
Fuck
enable Link Preview to see info 
Expedition 3 - Cartographers Revisited
Starting Planet
System: Ogawat.
Station: Ogawat Station Sigma.
Planet: Dice V20.












Rendezvous 1
System: Ogawat.
Station: Ogawat Station Sigma.
Planet: Westa Minor.
Point of Interest: Colossal Archive.












Lat/Long: +46.98, +141.07.
Rendezvous 2
System: Ozawak.
Station: Ozawak Station Sigma.
Planet: Ucossy Eppu.
Point of Interest: Portal.












Lat/Long: +23.58, -24.76.
coords here ^
Aight
I just found the spotd by flying low and slow near the marker.
I remember one of the expeditions the scanner was borked and didn't work. Looks like it does this time from what I could see.
Does anyone know how to get crystal sulphide on the starting planet?
you get it from the vents on ocean floor
Where would I find an ocean
on planet
Depends where you were dropped.
I went to the top of the mountains the game dropped me in the middle of and there wasn't a drop of water. Had to hike in 1 direction a long way.
And still, wasn't deep enough, had to keep searching.
Any landmarks would help
There's like no rocks on this friggin planet.
Been getting most of my ferrite dust from rusted metal.
I'm considering cheesing the expedition by spawning in my preorder ship. Worried I'd lose where the expedition ship is parked, though.
oh, thats not erally cheesing it. it also doesnt help.
(wait, or does it? how do you spawn the preorder ships? the "doesnt help" assumed its like redeeming expedition rewards. 😅 )
I can't find Rendevous 1. it's not showing up in my game......?
do you have the milestone selected? there should be an icon showing in the galaxy map if you're not in the system
ahhh. lol. thank you so much. I didn't know can do that
this was done in normal play? or creative? either way just wow :O
Normal
Wait I didn't build that if that's what you meant
Yeah I remember when I came upon some whispering eggs in my first couple hours of ever playing nms and yeah that was fun
I dont
Remember them too much
This may sound dumb but
What exactly do I need to do for the industrialist thing besides just put a mineral extractor on the minerals
I built a house for my creature friend but it can't go in inside
😫
Does the power generation one require a specific kind? Because I've generated way more than that with solar panels and nothing happened
I just made 3 panels and connected it to a teleporter
And got it
welp time to go play PS4 while these extractors take an hour to mine salt
Also my construction thing now suddenly has much less stuff available to research and I can't build storage units anymore?
I feel ya there
Why did that happen
I hope I don’t need some storage thing for these mineral extractors
This is like one of the last 3 things I need for this expedition
Hmm I can't place a comm station at the final rendezvous. How are other players able to?
Yes
Are they doing a redux of #4 too?
I got this one done on my PS4. Between now and then I'm going to redo this on the PC.
Sweet
I wish I could have the ship I've been flying in this expedition to spawn in every save instead of the vector in the first expedition.
I really hope the tech makes its way to the other game modes
Is there anything special about that expedition specific ship? Or just higher base stats
The tech is what is special afaik
i cannot find an alien structure to go to with the scanner.... idk what to do
you've tried the alien charts from cartographer at the space station (which you can get for nav data)?
im stuck on the planet with a broken ship
ok
its like the 5th part of phase one
so, "any port in the storm" milestone, phase 1. use your signal booster to "locate nearby structures". alternatively, walk towards one direction and from time to time, use your visor to sweep the environment looking for "unknown building" icons. use photo mode as a drone camera to try and locate a building nearby.
that being said, milestones don't have to be complete in order.
yea if i had a ship or craft to travel it would be easier
you can focus on milestones that will allow you to repair your ship's launch thruster, pulse engine and life support.
if you can't fix thrusters which is all you'd need to fly to space station.
in this case, the three techs i mentioned need to be fixed to fly
normally, just launch thrusters+pulse engine would be enough, but this ship also requires life support tech to be fixed
and there's still plenty of time left to finish. ask for more guidance if needed, ofc
In the absence of an exocraft, I recommend taming the local wildlife. It's not much, but it's a bit easier than walking.
Good tip
the way I like to do this is to just build a simple base and then stack about 3 levels high and then remove all the walls for the top levels so you have to jetpack on top
if there is a path for the horrors to walk to get to you they will, but not if it's disconnected and they have no range
at that point you can just pick them off at your leisure
so 1.) Grab egg, 2.) jetpack up to sniper perch 3.) slaughter horrors 4.) repeat
or just grab
yeah that was my 1st contact with them when I had no shields and basic boltcaster
so for The Hills Are ALive milestone does it count if I land on top of a tall mountain in my ship and get out?
yes
nice
man IDK why but my FPS is in the 🚽 today
wonder if it's the expedition lagging because there wasn't an update and nothing else changed
wait why can't I warp to the space station 
is that disabled because of the expedition? that's dumb
I was able to warp from the station to my base
is it
IDK I'm asking here because I don't know 😄
brb gotta crash the market on storm crystals 😂
which phase are you in
I've completed the first 3 and I have some of 4 and 5
fixed the ship enough to get to the space station
alright just keep a look out for water =)
huh?
Try turning off multi player, if you have not :-)
Yeah
Does anyone know how to get herox on the starting planet
you can refine it with gold amonia and cobalt with a large refiner
or do the mineral extrator part and it gives you the recipe (no refiner needed)
Thanks
also I believe it can be a random drop from those burried mineral formations
The buried mineral formations is what I’ve been trying but only one has dropped out of the 50 I’ve collected
yeah it's better to just refine
that's what I did
I didn't get the recipe until after
because it takes minimum 45 minutes after you build the mineral extractor to get the milestone
and it takes hella power so you better have a bunch of panels and batteries
at least 2 of each
I put mine on a switch so it's not draining my batteries
Everywhere I want to build base on starting planet there is some previous registration already there. How to find free spot?

Did I spend too many units on a shitty class C just because it has a recharger?
yep!
🙃
improvise, adapt, overcome
wait you can put solar panels inside and they still work rofl
is there anything wrong with me using some other random's base as my own? 😂
this one is way nicer than anything I've ever built
Does anyone know how to find biological horrors for Larval cores
Abandoned buildings and no atmosphere planets.
Look for eggs, shoot them and regret waking them up.
Thanks
np
Um.... i can't build a base. terminal said that there is already registered base before. Wtf?
there's probably a base computer from another player nearby. first, disable multiplayer, then save+reload, then try again. if it's already disabled, either move away from that area until you can build and claim your own base computer, or try to find the parts that belong to the other player base computer, and report that base via your build menu.
Ok, i'll try, thanks :)
This mf built a base with hazardous flora clipping inside of their entrance room
Also wtf this wasn't here last night at all lol
It's directly next to where my disabled ship started. Last I was on the closest player base was 15 hours away lol
as spawn points get reused for more and more players, that will happen more and more frequently
one of the reasons why i don't like uploaded bases in exp planets.
Does anyone know why my construction research unit initially had a whole bunch of things to research but now it only has a very limited list? Like it had all the different geobays but now it doesn't list any
as soon as you fix your ship's launch thruster+pulse engine+life support, space anomaly gets unlocked, and construction research unit goes back to its normal self
Man that's wack. Cause I still haven't fixed one of the engines so I can't get off planet
hyperdrive isn't required to fly
and i'm pretty sure that CRU only goes back to normal CRU once the ship can fly.
My waveform engine isn't fixed yet
Just the pulse
They didn't really think through people doing things non-sequentially when they made this huh
milestones don't have to be completed in order at all
So why did I get locked out
waveform engine is the pulse engine
i don't know why you got locked out - some sort of bug. in any case, you don't exactly need the CRU to complete the expedition.
yeah, can see what's going on there
ime, only when i fixed all 3 did it revert CRU back to normal
perhaps that trigger is actually just life support.
😩
ship can't fly without all 3
in any case, just fix pulse engine
keep going
almost there
Yeah I only need 1 sulphide. I was hoping to fly over to where they might be though instead of making the forever trek back on foot
My minotaur also got locked out due to a very similar thing
use photo mode as a drone camera to try and find the next water puddle
what do you mean?
I marked where it is with save beacon already
Won't let it move because I added (but didn't install) a mod that it's reading as the primary engine instead of the actual engine
Or some such thing
move icarus engine to another slot
dismantle it
fixes the "engine won't recharge" bug on normal exocrafts, that's why i suggested it
also, underwater vents aren't the only source of crystal sulphide
buried mineral formation/glowing crystals can also drop it
I have Icarus fuel system and Daedalus engine. At the top left there
and moving icarus to another slot doesn't fix it, you say
gotcha
i'd just try to dismantle self greasing servos, or moving it to another slot
It won't let me 😫
Fingers crossed I find some more buried mineral clusters nearby
i guess you will just need to unlock acid
and craft it
or buy it
and complete the install
anyone got tips for rocket man?
Elton John
😑
I dunno, I think it's gonna be a long, long time.
yeah but I don't have enough jetpack even with 5 upgrades
jetpacking against a ceiling doesn't deplete jetpack
oh tricky!
exploiting a game mechanic basically
see the ramps in the back?
in the landing pad area?
huh like to go up to the shops?
also works inside a base yes
Well only had to travel half of the 40 mins to the water before finding my last sulphide in a mineral formation. I guess that's something
you tryin'a tell me there are no biological horrors on this atlas forsaken toxic planet
Don't think so
gotta go to the ice planet 😩
ice is gud
yeah I looked it up
glad I did before I destroyed it
ughhhhhhh
so I have killed 5 whispering eggs
and 3 out of the 5 I missed the thing
it despawns
yeah but it just seems like a "F you" from HG though?
why would they despawn
it's a physical thing, things don't just cease to exist
Removes challenge
If it didn’t respawn, you could pick it up after beating the monstrosities
Having to go in to pick it up while the bad guys are sprouting adds a hint “challenge” for a reward
yes that's how it should work??
nothing else in the game works this way
anyway I just got my 3rd one, this isn't #nms-bitching 😅
sorry
If that doesn't normally happen, could just be a bug.
It does normally happen
I've never had to get them before
Larval cores always despawn
yeah I wasn't saying it was a bug
@modest hemlock I made it off planet 
finally out of this horrible system
Should I just sell all the navigation data I have.
Wait, can it even be sold for money
why sell? are you keeping this save?
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Cause I have like 50 of them and i don't need them. Unless you are specifically looking for an alien artifact or something they seem pretty useless
they're useful to summon ships that don't fly 🙃
I used a bunch of them for the expedition
What I want with a ship that don't fly? Inventory space?
you didn't do the expedition?
the first half of the expedition is fixing your busted ship
so it makes sense in that context
and we're in the expedition channel
so 🤷♂️
I did but I still don't get why I'd need to do that
I guess if I wanted to bring it to where I found the stuff to fix it
Either way I don't need 50 of em
Does anyone else get unreasonably annoyed when there's a substantial looking plant or geological formation that isn't scannable
I actually enjoyed it. It was a challenge to me. Finished it in about 9hrs played :)
Looking forward to expedition 4 redux, as it seems to be Dune inspired. :-)
Like how this thing not scannable
👀
Kinda looks durian-ish lol
🤣
Dis planet got mf jackal-headed-shark-tailed-stegosaurus animals
hah that was just a little joke, it was tough and horrible (but I want more) 😄
These ice planet beetle things straight up bullying me for creature pellets
😅
FYI there are whispering eggs on the bountiful planet at some abandoned buildings. That way you don't have to deal with hyperactive sentinels and shitty wildlife on top of the abominations like you do on ice planet
Has anyone seen an interloper named _Moonlightfurry currently on a search party for them
they seem like my kinda guy
Do mountains that reach 1,325u actually exist?
in the starter planet? yes, it's possible to complete hills are alive on it
You’d think it’d be easy to find something that big but I’ve been looking for hours
have you fixed your ship yet?
remember that you don't need to complete milestones in order
being able to fly your ship will help a lot with finding a suitable location to complete hills are alive at, imo
If you can find the magnetic resonators. Scanning all 8 minerals is near impossible depending where you land. That and finding water. Fixing the ship is not exactly easy to do.
so what's ironic is right as I asked that, I climbed a plateau and found 2 more minerals on a huge circular cliff outcropping
they hadn't shown up ANYWHERE else. It was infuriating, lol
A big tip for finding minerals is to look for 4 areas: normal landscape, cave, underwater, and strange land formations (for example, craters landing from space bringing new minerals). I know you finished already but maybe it will help somebody else
@past notch yes
see reply right before yours
strange land formations also include "plateaus" like
Ah. I gave up and raided a manufacturing facility.
if anyone wants help on exp3 feel free to @ me
If you could bring me a warp hypercore I'll pay you the resources for it
Need some help finding "Larval Cores", they can be found by abandoned buildings in "Whispering Eggs"
Problem is I can't find any abandoned buildings
Would anyone know where I could find the buildings?
If you have done all the other milestones leading up to this, you should have access to the Pilgrim exocraft. Install all the scanners and search for abandoned buildings. Alternatively you could try your luck on cartographers maps, but that will take longer
There are none on the starting planet. There's a few on the bountiful planet, but the easiest way to find them is on the ice planet where they're just all over the place in the environment
Unfortunately that planet also has aggressive sentinels and fauna
Abandoned building can be found through distress signal charts iirc
I found them on the starter planet
Huh really
Yeah
I can't remember which chart it was but I'm pretty sure it was the distress signal
Yeah just checked, distress signal
Yeah, all the others are for non abandoned places.
Distress signal also returns crashed friegters and ships and malfunctioning factories though so you might have to do it a bunch
Yeah
But they'll never give the same type twice
So you can just stay in one spot and spam them
Not true lol
Yes true
If you have a crashed freighter marked from a chart it won't give you another crashed freighter until you clear that one
I've had the same type twice many times
Storm crystals. Good or bad grind for units?
Bullshit beema
Uh
It literally says "target type already scanned"
.
They are easy enough to get. There's other stuff that sells for way more though
Could you recommend such items? Im doing this expedition as a re bound.
Like, my first, very very op save got wiped so im just now coming back to nms
I think there's a list a bot in here can pull up
I don't know the command offhand
How to Make Units 
- [Tips for Beginners »](#nms-questions message)
- [Tips for All Stages »](#nms-questions message)
- [Trade Routes Guide »](#nms-questions message)
- [Mineral Farming Guide »](#nms-questions message)
Use your scanner to find anything with a gold icon. That stuff either sells for a lot or refines in to nanites
There's a bunch of ancient bones you can find buried on the starter planet. Those sell for a lot
Thank you
Storm crystals work fine though since they are all over the place
They do, but if you happen to be near bones they're worth more and there are usually a few bunched near eachother.
ancient bones, depending on rarity, might not be worth more than 1 storm crystal - there's bones worth 50-90k, 1 storm crystal is worth 125k item card price
Im noticing a lack of rocks on the starter planet... So now I'm having ferrite dust issues LOL
As for the whole bones and crystals... I've got around 6 stacks of storm crystals in the high cap inventory. I wasn't finding many bones
any ammonia deposits around you? mine those with your terrain manip set to lowest size, then refine ammonia to dust
Again, thank you friend.
If you go to one of those massive stone formations there's usually a ton of small ferrite rocks lining the ground around them.
I think I used most of the ammonia I found to recharge my acid shielding lol
I found a waypoint with a galactic terminal, sold my storm crystals and bought all the stuff I needed, incl. ferrite dust 🙂
Nearest trade post is 1 Day away from me. I need to scan 3 rocks that I can't find for a magnetic resonator
Thank you rngjesus.
I figured out I can refine metal scraps for ferrite.. saved my bacon!
rusted metal*
Having a hell of a time finding 8 minerals for the milestone on my PC expedition. Looked underwater in caves and above ground. Traveled hunderds of u in all directions. Any suggestions?
oh that's really helpful, ty!!
those plateaus and floating islands had the last 3 minerals i needed
only found 1 mineral underwater
Yeah, don't think I tried plateaus yet. Thx
Definitely didn't think to look there
I've obviously picked the wrong direction to go in to find a deep body of water in this thing... it's been all day 🤣
I'm still trying to fix my ship haven't found the quantum computer blueprint :(
pretty sure that one was a reward for completion of something... have a loot at the various rewards!
Yeah but I can't fix the visor to find electric hotspot
Ahhh I did it with ||solar panels||
It do be like that sometimes 😂
o.o
👀
I think I wound up finishing the scanned minerals one when I got to another planet
For me the key to finding all the minerals was looking on a plateau and also finding one or two berried minerals.
Now I've completed this expedition on two platforms (PC and PS4).
Last one for me was an underwater ball thing in a cave
I tried to cheese around the giant cliff achievement by making a literal stairway to heaven. At 1000 distance up it crashed NMS and I lost two hours of resource farming to make it 😦
What did it cost? Everything.
Ouch. I got the summit milestone after I repaired the ship - just found the highest point, flew to it, looked around, found a higher peak, flew to it, jumped out, milestone achieved.
Then, I jumped off and goosed my jetpack a few times, saw a blue flower on the ground, did a cool swooping maneuver while holding "E" to collect the flower, and used it to fly all the way back up to the mountaintop - that got me the milestone for spending 20 seconds in the air.
check warp list, there might be a base 1320u mountain or something
i made one but don't know if u can see it, maybe somebody else made one as well
Vid or it didn't happen
Well then I guess it didn't happen? I don't have any sort of replay software set up.
Just completed the expedition though - only done Beachhead and Cartographer at this point, but I've gotta say I had a lot more fun with Beachhead.
I like that they focused on different aspects of the game and try stuff you might not normally go for
if someone i still stuck at exp 3 you can @ me for help
I liked that this focused mainly on the planet you start on
I'm quite stuck at phase3. Can't get remaining two minerals to be able to repair the ship (found one on plaeau one underwater, but two still missing). Any alternative routes besides geologist to repair ship? I traveled for half an hour across the planet to find distress signal to have another ship, but i was not allowed to claim it 😦
tried caves?
and the floating plateaus?
caves yes. Got i think one or two minerals there.
floating plateau no, just a very high cliff plateau
ok, will go later to search for accessible flying plateau
you can just dig up
or build a base below it and staircase up
😄
but i hadn't had much trouble finding rocks
ok, will do this somehow. hope there is two new rocks worth it 🙂
also tiny trick on hills
yeah, thanks for the offered help, i just wander if there are no other routes get it - buy blueprints somewhere, or trader
depends which
you can always get blueprints from factories
or resources like herox from a depot
I know there’s water on this planet because the fauna list has underwater animals, but is there any way to find out which direction it is?
Walk downhill, sometimes you need to look for caves, every planet has a water level, that you need to get bellow
i can't for the life of me find the god damn 8th mineral to scan
yep been high been low been caves been underwater. not sure of 'strange land formations' i guess
Woop woop on attempt number 2 I was able to build my stairway up to the 1350 mark. On my main save I’m going to see how high I can make a stairway. Something I have yet to try.
Go to another planet and scan one
Do like me and look for one of those small settlements with a landing pad. The merchant in there will sell you those resonators. Might need to revisit depending how much are for sale. That's how I got around it.
But even that depends where you landed. Some player had put a base computer near one and called it trader, which let me find one.
I couldn't leave the planet without herox, and couldn't get herox without finding the 8th mineral. I have found it since however.
well, I didn't think I'd come to this, but can anyone please help me and give 3 sulfid crystals?
I can give umm storm crystals in return I guess
I'd help but I'm already in bed however you can find what you seek underwater
duh, I know they're underwater, but I can't succeed in finding deep enough underwater all this time
Check a youtube guide since its an expedition someone probably knows a close place
If anyone's having trouble getting The Hills Are Alive and\ Rocketman, I've set up a base near the Expedition 2 site on a 1325u+ mountain
Alternatively, select Hills Are Alive and the tooltip will be activated. Then fly around the starting planet until you find a mountain thats above 1325u, land and exit your ship.
Glowing Minerals can drop Crystal Sulphide, so look for Buried Mineral Formations or Floating Crystals. There's a glitch method to ensure you get more Sulphide from those Glowing Minerals too if you want to know it.
Sec, going to a keyboard so i can type it out
You need at least 1 Crystal Sulphide (or whatever mineral you need dropped) in your inventory.
You cannot have any other mineral that's dropped from Glowing Minerals in your inventory, so put them in your ship and walk far enough away so your ship inventory is not accessible (or hide them in a refiner, etc).
Split up a random stack of resources so that it block up your entire inventory (for example, 1 silicate in each slot). Make sure the Crystal Sulhpide (or Herox, etc) is also in a slot. Then start analyzing any Glowing Minerals you have. It will give you "Inventory Full" warnings, just ignore them, keep analyzing.
Eventually it will analyze a mineral and put another Crystal Sulphide (or whatever) into the slot where you already have one.
oh yeah I know what you're talking about
thanks
where do I find glowing minerals btw?
What's happening is the game is checking for an available inventory slot for the item it just rolled. Since you don't have an available slot, it skips that roll and says "Inventory Full".
I mentioned that already above
Buried Mineral Formations or Floating Crystals
oh right, sorry
no worries
thanks again
yep
this last mineral is actually killing me! not in a cave, not underwater, where is it?!?!?
@crisp hedge check on top of things like these (and on floating islands too)
youre my hero! thank you ❤️
it feels so good to finally be off that planet!
yeah I can't wait to finally leave it
sigh I really need to find deep underwater asap
It looks like this rn but when I find more people im gonna make it bigger
Sweet
Very sweet
Sweet
Triple sweet
@grand tinsel
I love the way it is going - let's use #nms-photomode-gallery for any more though 😄
Oh k thx
What's this channel for?
For tips and help on the current Expedition
Oh k
Anyone know if there's a way for me to use the save editor to discover all the minerals on the expedition 3 planet? There's no way I'm spending any longer searching for some goddamn rocks.
@jagged eagle did you check on plateaus/floating islands?
Unless you can’t yet get off the planet, I need the magnetic resonator which you get from scanning all the minerals, you don’t need them before you fly off.
Well thats why i was trying to get the expedition reward
got no reply, but i'll relink the image that was posted to exemplify what i meant
@jagged eagle check on top of these things <#nms-legacy-ships message>
3 days or so left for expedition
Nows the time to complete it
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Ran: Dec 8 - Dec 21 (2pm UTC)
Any tips for how to find all the creatures? Ive got 9/10
have you tried flying to a different side of the planet? or reload your save too. creature spawn sometimes gets annoyingly random. can try underwater if there's water in the planet or caves too.
Def check underwater. If you check the log, it tells you where the undiscovered ones spawn
Does the list give you any hints to what or where it is.
I normally miss the flying ones that are diurnal
ping @modest hemlock @quick herald @white relic @gleaming minnow
same session. same (wrong) name, different discovered-by.
sometimes the name is slightly different between platforms
i think its Dice K20 on steam iirc
@quick herald not a platform issue as such. note the discovered-by in the first screenshot. 😄
not sure on the discovered by part though
(actualy, it seems it was Dice K42 in a different fully offline session (listing me as discoverer) too)
so the name part may indeed be platform specifc. interesting.
Hey all, first off happy new year to everyone! I'm having an issue where when I load up my expedition save my game crashes withing the first few seconds, could I add someone on here and try joining up on them and see if that helps to fix it?
would recommend trying the opposite, as in, trying if it works when you load it while offline.
Lemme give it a try, thanks!
Guys I need some help how in the world do I spend 20 seconds airborne
I tried jumping off a mountain, it didnt work
build stair on top of a mountain
Well if u dig a hole and walk right up to the end. And hover ur jetpack while facing the wall.. u can hover and complete that milestone/mission.@jagged eagle
Build two walls and a roof, jet pack in the corner works as well
Was about to suggest that
Or if there's a storm you can jetpack for longer in storms
During high temp. storms - yes
Dunno what kind of storms there are on the expedition planet
Im trying to find a high altitude location, does it have to be on the toxic planet?
Select that milestone, then fly around until you find a mountain where the tooltip says its over 1325u
it can be on any planet too btw
hello i'm trying to complete autodiagnostics 3 on the cartographers expedition and cannot for the life of me find an ocean anywhere to get the crystal sulphide 😦 anyone able to offer advice/some crystal sulphide?
Same question here, I'm not sure how I'm supposed to find the crystal, as well as the larval core-
you gotta find water - might be a long walk. get up as high as you can and look around.
Laravel core from whispering egg - find an infested building
photo mode can help sometimes, @spiral quest
been looking for 3 hours now and made like 8 mountain bases 💤
only water near me is little ponds :/
how does one do this?
getting an abandoned building will be easy once you can take your ship to the station
i meant, using photo mode as a drone camera, to help you navigate the landscape, trying to find water
yeah i'm a new player for the expeditions @modest hemlock was asking how to turn that camera on
ahh got it thank you 🙂 is there a way to make this move faster?
not that i know of
I've been looking for hours to find the 2 last minerals to scan on Dice K42 :(
Can't craft a stupid Magnetic Resonator without that :/
Have you tried: underwater, underground, and on top of the large flat rocks?
which ones are you missing
Akovicheite and Fuettine
Akovicheite is found on floating islands (and plateaus) with rough rocky terrain
Fuettine, I found this in a basin where there were shallow pools of water, but it was in the grassy area
Nope, but I got 8 which is all I needed :)
Finally off this forsaken planet.
I am having a really hard time finding deep water for crystal sulphide. If I post my latitude and longitude, would it be possible for someone to help me what direction I should head to try to find some?
Ngl go for a ocean planet
So I completed the expedition and I went to collect my rewards in my main save. I thought we get to keep the ship from the expedition as a reward. But all there was waiting for me was that egg, some organic deco and fireworks. Don't we get to keep the ship?
The unique exotic you started the expedition with is not a reward
So it doesn't transfer to other saves
Awww
However, after the expedition ends, the expedition save turns into normal mode save
And you can continue playing that and you will have access to that ship
I want that tech added into the other modes so bad
😥
Why sad face
Technically it's called disappointed:relieved that's kinda apt as I am disappointed I can't have the ship in my main save and relieved I still have access to it.
You prolly could find coords for the same model of the ship on NMSCE and get it on your main save
However it won't have the expedition unique tech like the waveform engine or others
It exists in the main game then?
What does exist? The exotic?
Oh, the unique tech was part of the cool features. Frameshift catapult 
Someone on my stream said we get to keep the ship and it's got the best jump range in the game. They rather mislead me there.
I might have played things differently had I realized but never mind.
WRT folks searching for Crystal Sulphide: Unless I got lucky & randomly picked it up, I thought I got the sulphide as a reward from one of the other expedition missions. Possibly as one of those stones you have the option to "break open" in your inventory for loot.
I definitely did not do any resource harvesting underwater, although I spent hours roaming the sea bottom walking my exosuit to the "nearest outpost" 2hrs away -_-
And anyone having trouble with eggs (Larval Core): You have to use the Roamer's scanner to "Scan for Abandoned Buildings". I don't like the Roamer so when it gave me the bay I totally ignored it. I was happy with jet-slamming across the land in the Mech, didn't know that the different Exocraft can detect different POIs... I had my eggs in 15min once I got in the Roamer.
I can’t find any deep enough water where vents would be to find crystal sulphide. All that’s around me is mountains and shallow water. Is there any way anyone can help me?
Try mining Buried Mineral Formations and opening them in your Inventory, they can drop Crystal Sulphide among other resources
Could someone help me out? I cant find enough minerals to get the magnetic resonator so im kinda stuck
?
Ohh
Akovicheite fuettine paartibe and reibaite
